What does it mean if Mitt Romney leads President Obama by 24 points among veterans?
May 29th, 2012
04:42 PM ET

What does it mean if Mitt Romney leads President Obama by 24 points among veterans?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Right on the heels of Memorial Day comes a strong suggestion that President Barack Obama could have problems with military veterans in November.

A new Gallup Poll shows that veterans support Mitt Romney over Obama by a whopping 24 points - 58% to 34%.

Veterans make up about 13% of the population as well as almost a quarter of adult men. Pollsters say this large edge among veterans is a big reason why Romney leads among men overall.

Historically, Republican presidential candidates do better among veterans than Democrats. Both George W. Bush and John McCain carried the veteran vote, but Obama won veterans under 60 in the last election.

It's worth pointing out that another poll this month found the president leading Romney among veterans 44% to 37%.

Meanwhile, both Romney and Obama saluted the troops over the Memorial Day weekend.

The president honored the veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and those who "loved their country enough to sacrifice their own lives for it."

He talked about the importance of providing health care, benefits and education for veterans. His campaign has been highlighting the killing of Osama bin Laden, the end of the Iraq war and the push to wind down the Afghanistan war.

Romney addressed global threats at an event with Sen. John McCain. "I wish I could tell you that the world is a safe place today," Romney said, telling veterans that the United States must remain the world's top military power.

This year is the first election since World War II without a major candidate who is a veteran. And it's clear both men realize the power of this voting bloc.

Here’s my question to you: What does it mean if Mitt Romney leads President Obama by 24 points among veterans?

Tune in to the Situation Room at 5pm to see if Jack reads your answer on air.

And, we love to know where you’re writing from, so please include your city and state with your comment.

soundoff (222 Responses)
  1. Thomas USArmy retired

    The poll says they preferred BUSH over Obama. However, they voted for Obama.

    I think it means little.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:09 pm |
  2. David Edenden

    "Traumatic Brain Injury" is worse than we thought.

    Toronto, Canada

    May 29, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
  3. Bill of New Mexico

    Veterans are almost completely conservative. Across the usual "planks" of the two parties, the veterans agree with almost all Republican planks and none of the Democrats'.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
  4. Lawrence Wood

    It means that if Romney is elected,he will engage us in war to massage his ego and to show our eliteness. Most military know that Republicans support a strong defense. But if we engage in war,who are the folks that will fight, poor, unemployed minorities, not rich elite folks.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
  5. Ed from Texas

    Men typically vote Republican and most veterans are men, so it doesn't mean that much. I'm a veteran, but will probably vote against Republicans because of the Iraq War.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
  6. John from Alabama

    Jack: It mewans the President and his campaign staff need to remind veterans who was president when Osama bien Laden was killed and who gave the order. Veterans need to find out who has signed the largest appropriation bill into law funding the Veterans Administration. Veterans need to ask themselves who got us out of Iraq. The Iraq War cost this country some of its finest young men and women for weapons of mass destruction that were never there, and allowing Iraq to turn into chaos, and cost the USA $1 trillion dollars. It was President George W. Bush who started the Iraq War. Veterans need to look an see who has done the most for them.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  7. Thinkforyourself, OK

    It means that older veterans KNOW what a SOCIALIST and a Communist looks like. It is what they fought against in WWII, Vietnam, Korea, etc. My 92 year old Dad sees it. His friends see it. My Vietnam Vet friends see it.

    The younger generation has been brainwashed and propagandized by the LEFT in the public schools and institutions. GOD HELP the United States of America.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:21 pm |
  8. JD in NH

    It means veterans aren't paying attention. Democrats are consistently in the side of veterans and their needs while Republicans put veterans' programs on the chopping block on a regular basis. In addition, for older vets, Democrats always support keeping Social Security and Medicare while Republicans – the Ryan budget supported by Mr. Romney, in particular – want to gut both.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
  9. Larry in Houston

    What does it mean if Mitt Romney leads President Obama by 24 points among veterans ?
    Answer : It means that People are tired of Obama – like me – I Voted Democrat – and probably most likely will again – I guess if I was in the Military, I would want somebody Different – They are probably thinking : we gave Obama 3.5 or 4 yrs, and He can't straighten anything out, how about giving Romney a Try ? Can't hardly blame them, or anybody else, for deciding to give Romney a try at it, to fixing the economy. But for some odd reason or another, they Both Think that Government Creates Jobs, LOL but they are BOTH wrong on that one. The so called "Job Creators" ( I mean the ones that used to employ Thousands) are mostly Overseas, hiring the people in the 3rd world countries for Jobs, the ones that lives in 2 or 3 room houses, no car, no mortgage payments, no car payments, (they Just walk to work ) they don't have the Bills that we do) Those Are The Job Creators that are Raking It IN. ( the overseas ones)
    Bottom Line IS – People AND the Veterans Want Somebody Different – Romney will be our next President , Jack.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:27 pm |
  10. Doug Ericson

    It means most Veterans think Romney will be a better advocate for them, by a wide margin. I've had some thoughts about Romney and the Military rolling around in my head the past few days. Romney wants to provide more funds for the Military. This is a curious position coming from a company restructuring artist. Shouldn't Romneys position be more like the restructuring artist in regards to the Military. Shouldn't he be advocating getting rid of the waste in the Military , downsizing the whole mess, but making it stronger and more efficient all the while. Why doesn't Romney come out and say he will cut the Military budget in half, and make the Military twice as strong, by getting rid of redundencies and crooked contractors. and tactically challenged Generals. We woudn't have so many crippled veterans if the apple sauce brained Generals didn't send them blindly down, wide open, bomb embedded roads, into sniper infested villages, with 130 pound uniforms on, in 125 degree heat. So Romney has made his vow to be the yes man for our hapless Military Leaders. Thats just what we need. Doug, Pepperell, MA.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
  11. Ed from California

    Polls mean nothing, Jack. Most pollsters call landlines, only old people have landlines. The tail of the tape will be the recall in WI. if, Walker wins (highly doubt it though), then we are all in trouble. You and Wolf will be doing the Situation Room, in a room in China!! And that room will be both of your living quarters too!! I believe, Obama will win, easily, and Walker will be out!

    May 29, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  12. debbie from ohio

    Its sad to see veterans support a a draft dodger !!!! Only in America.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:33 pm |
  13. lee

    Honestly i thought it would be by a larger margin since republicans usaully win this demograghic. Maybe i'm wrong but it seems that Obama has reduce that usaul repub lead. What was his % in 2008?

    May 29, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
  14. Gary H. Boyd

    It means that Barack Obama is not respected as a Commander in Chief. The active military may be requiired to salute and stand at attention but they don't have to like him and clearly most do not. Romney comes across as a more genuine leader. As a veteran myself, I certainly feel that way.

    Gary in Scottsdale, Arizona

    May 29, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
  15. Gary in San Jose, California

    Really Jack? You're surprised that veterans favor the unwavering support of the military by the Republican Party?

    May 29, 2012 at 1:45 pm |
  16. Bizz, Quarryville Pennsylvania

    I don't understand why and cannot come up with a good reason. Romney is a man that got out of going Vietnam by doing missionary work for the Mormons. None of his sons ever came close to wearing a military uniform and they never will. On Obama's watch the Iraq war ended and we are bringing troops home from Afghanistan. I know for a fact there are many troops happy about that. There is a very good chance if Romney becomes president we will be involved in another war with Iran and running it on a credit card while Romney and his sons cheer the troops on.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  17. John LaBare, Wantagh, NY

    As a military veteran that does concern me greatly. I support the president in how he has handled many of our military plites. The best war is the one that is fought in a conference room and not on a battlefield. I think it means little towards the election but it does mean that "Don't ask Don't tell " plays a factor in that percentage.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
  18. Willy in Las Vegas

    it means that Veterans are NOT paying attention to Republican policies going back to Ronald Reagan. they have cut benefits and tried to privatize the VA. they have also changed retirement and benefits for active duty service people since I was in the military during Vietman.

    the Republican Party, and esp this current crop of "Tea party" crazies, are NOT the friend of either active duty military, retired military OR veterans.

    May 29, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  19. Ralph Spyer

    There are 20 Democrats veterans in congress,there 2 Republican, Who on Fox news is a Veteran ?answer no one, Who on right wing radio talk media is a Veteran ? answer no one.Ron Paul has the most support from Veterans , Who supports the Veterans administration ,Answer the Democrats

    May 29, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
  20. Russ in PA

    Shows you how foolish a lot of vets really are: you mean you're going to vote for either of the two partys, and continue the endless wars? Obviously the younger vets are more in tune, as they are backing Ron Paul, the person that will end the wars.

    Ron Paul in 2012...

    May 29, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
  21. Riley ODay

    It means the veterens are suffering from shell shock and not thinking clearly.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
  22. gg canada

    it means america needs a boots on the ground war–

    May 29, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  23. clephas

    It seems inevitable, as the Republicans, for all their lies about wanting smaller government, always vote to increase the military budget when they have a chance. The fact that the GOP does very little for the veterans themselves when they are in office gets overlooked because of the big dollar-sign bags that go to the military itself. Also, it probably has something to do with the fact that Obama was unwilling to let the House GOP get out of its own failure to make a deal on the deficit last year. No point in letting people avoid the consequences of their actions, especially the tea-partiers... but asking military veterans who just see money being taken away from the organization through which they served to care about that is a bit cruel.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
  24. peg from ny

    it means more repubs send their children off to the military

    May 29, 2012 at 2:24 pm |

    That means they prefer Romney over President Obama. duh. What does it mean that nobody in Romney's party particularly cares for him? Have you seen the endorsements this guy got?

    May 29, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  26. Steve, Clifton, Virginia

    It simply means that Veterans would like the deficit addressed but they don't want to see the Defense budget reductions included in the process.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
  27. Pete in Florida

    Based on all the things that he has accomplished both with and for the military, Obama should be LEADING by 50 pts. However, for years military folks have tended to be more Republican/conservative than Democrat liberal/progressive. Plus, the largest % of military folks ( the enlisted) tend to be less educated, and a very large part of the righties target base is the undereducated and the gullible who believe all the falsehoods broadcast nonstop by Repub politicians, their supporters, Fox News, and clowns like Limbaugh. So Obama has done far more for the military than Bush/Cheney ever even thought of doing, but gets no credit for it. It's kinda like the 'gun' thing – Obama is NOT coming after anybody's guns, but the Repubs, FOX and Rush have righities absolutely convinced that Obama is coming for their guns. Ignorant.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
  28. Greg Cox of Bremerton, WA

    Can you say, "Oh Boy, Another Major Abandonment " (OBAMA!) Count me in as an Army retiree...This CIC just doesn't have a handle on the pulse of America let alone the support of us veterans. He's a sly fox although I would not trust him in my fox hole.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
  29. Loren, Chicago

    You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. And, in any case, you can't fool a military man period.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:32 pm |
  30. Miguel Morris-Texas

    Not surprised. Our vets had a choice in 2008 and some had hope for "change". Now they see it was all words and no action. However, we give him credit fo OBL.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
  31. Karl in Flint, MI

    All it means is, we will find out in November who the winner is. Have I made my point?

    May 29, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
  32. Annie, Atlanta

    I'd venture to guess they either hate Democrats or like war or a combination of both. This isn't surprising given our military has been pro-Republican for as long as I can remember.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
  33. Mark in Topeka

    First, this question is related to the earlier question about polling, including the fluidity of the results based on the timing of the polls. Second, veterans as a group are largely older males. Overall, this is a demographic group that tends to be more conservative in their views. In addition, the military component raises an interesting point. President Reagan helped rebuild the strength of the U.S. military and used it in Granada. The two President Bushes both ordered the military to take actions in the Middle East. The perception may be among veterans that Republican Presidents are more supportive of the military, though they have put many soldiers in harm's way.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm |
  34. Kim, Dodge City, Kansas

    If that is true, which I doubt, I am greatly dissapointed in my fellow veterans. As much as a vet hates war, you would think that they would back someone who is trying to keep soldiers from being killed for no reason at all, rather than a right-wing war hawk who sees war as a business to be exploited regardless of the lives it destroys.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  35. Richard Oak Harbor, Wa

    Mitt Romney has said that as President he would spend deficit reduction funds taken from social security entitlements to rebuild the military and enforce no nukes for Iran. President Obama has not said how he will rebuild the military or contend with Iran beyond current negotiations. The GOP generally agrees that ongoing wars provide good paying American jobs for our defense establishment industries. Either way veterans benefits have never been better and both parties agree just as bipartisanship should be.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  36. Ed from Texas

    It means they're not paying attention. Many of Mitt Romney's advisors are the same Neocons who thought the Iraq War was a good idea. We're finally out of Iraq and we're getting out of Afghanistan, but this is the crowd that wants us to get into a war with Iran.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
  37. Bert in Los Angeles

    Hi Jack, if the Gallup poll is correct that among veterans Romney leads Obama this month, but last month Obama was leading Romney, then it means that veterans change their political position almost as often as Rmney.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
  38. Ken in Pinon Hills, California

    Republican's would kill every entitlement if they could. Veterans benefits are also entitlements, championed by democrats through the years. We vets should realize who have been buttering our bread, I mean our rations, in Washington.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
  39. al in Delaware

    Most of these Vets are old men who fit the demographic of the Republican Party. They are just voting for Romney because he is white. No surprise here. I'm a 21 year Air Force veteran whois going to vote for the President.

    May 29, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
  40. Pete in Florida

    I can tell military members and their families one thing for sure: if they put Republicans back in charge of the White House and Congress, they WILL be going back into battle. Iran, North Korea, etc – it's a target-rich environment for Repubs, who LOVE to send others to war while banking all the profits from the military-related industries. Remember Dick Cheney and his company Halliburton,which made billions of dollars in Iraq while elctrocuting our troops in defective showers? If you like war, vote Republican.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
  41. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    I'm a vet from the Viet Nam era and a child of a military man who gave his life serving in Viet Nam and I do not support Romney as he is following War Monger McCain's advise, war and bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. No one owes me anything for serving, I love America.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
  42. Jackson from Rome, GA

    One demographic President Obama will never successfully court is the social conservatives. In my experience, which includes having seen seen good friends go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq, the military lifestyle encourages, for better or worse, a socially conservative mindset.

    I've seen friends who would never before have denied homosexuals equal rights go off to war and come back telling me gay people had no place in the military or the wedding chapel.

    This is not to say the military encourages hate. Far from it, and we owe our men and women in the military a great debt. But it can foster a rigid mindset that distrusts things not in their accepted norm.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
  43. Mike Smith, New Orleans

    What is means, Jack, is that more veterans are Republicans than Democrats. Nothing more, nothing less.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
  44. Duke from the Crowbar Saloon

    Which veterans, Jack? WWII, Viet Nam, Iraq, and/or Afghanistan Vets? Given that, as reported, one-third of veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan are applying for social security disability benefits, stating they've become disabled due to their service, don't you think they'd be against the one candidate, Romney, who is far more hawkish re: Iran?

    May 29, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  45. Pam

    Well Jack, it doesn't mean much at all. After all, Obama does lead among blacks, latino, women, and the young vote. It doesn't matter how you spin it, Romney needs a whole lot more than a lead among vets to win this election.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  46. Paul in NC

    It means nothing. You said another poll showed Obama leading. Combine those polls and it's a stand off. When you start slicing the voting public into finer and finer pieces all you end up with is cole slaw. People in the Veterans bloc are also men, women, white, black, Hispanic, young, old, conservative, liberal and some probably don't vote at all. Instead of trying to pigeon ho;e people pollsters should be looking at th emajor issues in the election.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:13 pm |
  47. Adrian

    It means that veterans must prefer Mitt Romney. But with his focus on attempting to end the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, prevent yet another military intervention in Iran, repeal of DADT, and creating programs to help servicemembers with the home loan issues, it's hard to vote against Obama. That is, unless you just really like war and no gays in service.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  48. Peter from Toronto

    It doesn't mean much. The military is demographically-tilted towards more males and more conservatives to start with, so it would be quite shocking for a Democrat–any Democrat–to be leading over a Republican in polling.

    Besides, you can slice and dice the polls any way you want, but in the end it's still the overall numbers in the swing states that are the only thing that matter.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  49. James - Alexandria, VA

    What does it mean if Mitt Romney leads President Obama by 24 points among veterans....NOTHING! This is just another story you conjured up to try and create headlines. Get over yourself Jack....I am a veteran and I know ALOT of veterans who are not going to vote for Romney. He is a disgrace to this country, he has pathetic polices and he would be nothing more than a Koch brothers puppet. That is the last thing we need in the White House.....another spoiled brat who will waste time and lives starting worthless wars. Obama – 2012!

    May 29, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  50. Dave from Vancouver

    It means they should vote for him...then complain when they dragged into another war. I pray a majority of the 99% are not that dumb...

    May 29, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
  51. Pete in Georgia

    Veterans are authentic Americans.
    What would you EXPECT ???

    May 29, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  52. Dan from Stewartstown PA

    It probably has more to do with the irrational fear of the military being de-funded by Democrats, even though we spend 10 times more on defense than our nearest rival. Republicans love to play blame the Dem's., but they won't approve of the funding to take care of our veterans after they return to civilian life. As usual, scare tactics and innuendo win.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  53. Connie from Logansport,IN.

    I do not for the life of me understand why the veterans would back a man who not only did not serve , but had five able bodied boys who never served, ducking behind a religion. Romney has already said he would bomb Iran , called the Russia a problem and pissed off North Korea. We have over six thousand troops who lost their lives , more than forty thousand came home injured and over two trillion dollars spent. Obama has gotten Bin laden, stop the war in Iraq and is ending the war in Afghanistan, only to have Romney start the wars all over again. Jack maybe you can help me understand.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  54. Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia

    Jack: What does it mean? As a Veteran, we all have our "senior moments" now and then. It means absolutely nada!

    May 29, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
  55. David Gerstenfeld

    Hmmmmmm, maybe the answer is less votes.
    David, las vegas

    May 29, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
  56. David Gerstenfeld

    It means nothing to me. I couldn't vote for anyone who associates with Trump.
    David ,Las vegas

    May 29, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
  57. Bill from Baltimore

    The president scores well amoung some Veterans because of the propensity of the Veterans from the Deep South...I would also presume that Officers are more Conservative, NonComs more progressive...the funny thing is that it is Republicans who propose cuts to services and support for Veterans all while clutching a Bible and waving the Flag...

    May 29, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
  58. calaurore9

    Beats me. Romney never served nor did his sons. Wasn't Romney the guy that said his sons were serving the country by helping his campaign last go-round? Michelle Obama & Joan Biden do more for Veterans than anyone. You tell me.

    Carol in Northampton, Ma

    May 29, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
  59. John

    Well, this veteran will not vote for Romney. He's a pathetic candidate!!!!

    May 29, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
  60. Frank Poynton from Los Angeles

    I despise polls in the first place and this Gallup poll especially. As a Viet Nam veteran myself with two brothers who also served in that war I wonder what percentage of the veterans who were polled by Gallup actually served in a war zone. Furthermore, its a good bet that the pollsters skipped over the current population of homeless vets for their input, and then galloped to the press with results which appear to be lilly clean and indisputable. Pardon my cynicism Jack but here are the results of my very own unofficial poll which shows that Romney leads President Obama by a hugh margin amongst people who own dressage horses.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
  61. Bill Scholz

    It means military veterans are pretty smart.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
  62. Chris, Bx., NY

    It's amazing considering the fact that Romney has pretty much proposed a new war w/ Iran. But the vets in this picture, are elderly, & yes the older whiter crowd,will favor Romney. This poll seems shakey....Any hoot, moving right along nothing to see hear.....Obama 2012!!!

    May 29, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
  63. Chris from Florida

    Veterans have a pretty solid conservative majority Jack. People like me who served more than 20 years don't care much for hearing some guy who never served talk about slicing-up the military in a Clinton-esque manner. We didn't join to make millions when we joined and I assure you most of us never will ever come close. It is a calling to serve and there is inate trust with those who have done so. There is also inate distrust of those who did not. This President inherited a strong military, and he has said nothing to dissuade the fear that the soon-to-be cuts and sequestration are going to decimate it. Perhaps that is why veterans don't care much for this President. Of course there is also the homosexual politic. Ask Vetrans about that one Jack!

    May 29, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
  64. streetdude66

    yeah but Obama & the dems have the votes of the vets from the Dubya War(s) as well as their loved ones.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
  65. Gigi Oregon

    It will reflect the moral compass of our country. My husband is a veteran, my father-n-law served in WW ll along with five uncles . I have a son and seven grandsons. We will be voting for President Obama. We have relatives who fought in Korea, Vietnam, Dessert Storm amd the two Bush wars in the wrong country. Sadly the money was borrowed from China because the wealthy needed a tax break. So now the grand children of 99% will inherit the debt.

    When I was a child I took my dimes to school on Fridays to buy stamps for a war bond. Everyone was a part of the war effort. They had names for men who dodged the draft and we believe they will not make a great President. Honest and good people make good Presidents. President Obama, with his trust in the Seals, got bin Laden and not one person had to die...but the enemy.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  66. ken, atlantic city, nj

    I don't know what it means, but if we didn't start all these phoney wars like korea, vietnam, iraq, and afghanistan we would not have any veterans for politicians to pay off with benefits. Obama has just invaded n. korea with special forces so it looks like we will soon have another korean veteran voting block for political pandering.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
  67. Sterling

    It means nothing to this veteran. I think so many people, veterfans included, are so tired of the rhetoric from the right to solve the worlds problems by going to war. As has been proven in Viet Nam, Irag and Afganistan, war is not always the solution. We need peace-leaders, not war-leaders. Irag and Afganistan will never be at peace as we know it in America. It has been a waste of lives and money. Our country will pay for decades to come in the "damaged" soldiers that come back, the cost (where could that money have been better spent) and the damage to our stature in the world. I'm for Obama.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
  68. James Bruce

    It means that the Americans who have proved that they care most about keeping our country safe, free and great know who should be president, and who they would trust with the future of their country.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
  69. Lou in ME.

    It means that they've been watching too much Fox News and are il-informed.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
  70. Name*Bigg Mo

    It means absolutley nothing Jack, I'm a veteran & I support Preside.nt Obama 100%.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
  71. Al from Idaho and California

    History has shown Democrats often cut defense to support their welfare programs, while Republicans increase defense to build jobs for America. Which one makes the country stronger? President Obama didn't get Osama, the military did, which started way back in 9/11. He only gave them the approval to take him out. There IS a difference.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:52 pm |
  72. Mr. D

    "The world is not a safe place." Or does Romney mean the investment world is not a safe place? Maybe Obama should have said that those who "love their country enough" should give up their politicial ambitions when it's time. Talk is cheap, tells us what we don't know, and find solutions to our problems.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
  73. ren, Hot Springs Village, AR

    My husband is retired Navy and has never vote Democrat. Larger military equates to less money in the private sector and a more bloated Pentagon. It doesn't equate to a safer country, remember GWB was in office on 9/11, and had been for 9 months.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
  74. Tim Fotinos

    I don't know Jack, but a focused poll to find out would be quite interesting.

    Speculation? It means veterans don't understand Mr Romney will offer them no more than Mr Obama, maybe less. If the choice comes between tax cuts and military pay, we know what Mr Romney will choose. And its between pay, bullets, and basic supplies or big ticket weapon buys, Mr Romney will most likely choose to enrich his corporate backers.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  75. pad

    People are sick and tired of war. Killing our people and wasting the tax payers money needs to stop!!!.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  76. Ben Coe

    How can a man who dodge serving his country by hiding in a luxury Paris mansion in his early youth and has 5 sons who have never served their country be the choice of veterans today? Too much Faux News!!!

    May 29, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  77. John from Oregon

    It means that these folks will once again vote against their own best interests by drinking the 'cool aid' that the GOP serves. The GOP wraps itself in the flag and the bible while it proposes policies that serve the interests of a few at the peril of the citizens that pay the bills. Nationalism and religious zeal are NOT in the best interest of the nation. G. Washington had it right...Domestic prosperity and Foriegn Nuetrality are the recipe for a representative Republic. You cannot 'gut' the middle class and expect good results.
    Open minded people with critical thinking skills will hear the real comparison when Mr. Romney tries to debate President Obama. Sound bites and generalizations won't cut it when Romney has to be specific.

    May 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
  78. Bob in Illinois

    I don't understand the veterans who support Romney over Obama. Romney avoived the draft – Obama was too young.
    Obama has increased benefits for veterans and their families – and he has offered incentives to businessmen to hire returning veterans. Obama has removed combat soldiers from Iraq and is in process of removing them from Afghanistan. So why do veterans prefer Romney?
    Over the years, it has been the Democrats, especially President Obama, who have stood with veterans and worked for them.
    Republicans tend to be more hawkish, endangering our military - recall the mistaken invasion of Iraq.
    If they believe Obama is not "strong" they are sadly mistaken. Who took out Osama bin Laden? If veterans are retired from the workforce, who is standing behind them in support of social security? Obama and Democrats. If veterans are young, who is asking job creators to hire them? Who is increasing the services available to them and their families? The answer is President Obama.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
  79. pad

    People are sick and tired of war. Killing our people and wasting the tax payers money needs to stop!!!. War was what took down the Roman Empire and will do the same to the U.S.A.
    ames iowa

    May 29, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
  80. Mark

    Veterans tend to be more adverse to getting into new foreign entanglements than non-vets, since they have had to solve the problems created when politicians get us into foreign entanglements. Maybe they see Obama as being more willing than Romney to commit American troops and assets to foreign hot spots.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  81. Craig in Montana

    As a veteran in Montana, I don't think I would trust that poll. A recent poll had active duty military backing Obama over Romney by a few points. Considering younger, current military tends to be far more conservative than retired veterans I think your poll is a huge outlier.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  82. Mark , Oklahoma City, OK

    It means that Veterans can tell the difference between a REAL leader and someone who pretends to be one.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  83. Ron Hall Arkansas

    It means if Romney doesn't move back to a more moderate position he is going to lose. He can't get elected by winning the hearts and souls of mostly white males over age 40 . I believe that most male and female voters believe that President Obama has gone to far left to appease the liberal base. That doesn't mean they will vote to support tax breaks for oil companies and wealthy people and breaking down regulation of wall street, banks, and health insurance companies. If Mitt wants to beat these drums for his right wing supporters, he will lose support of the moderate majority. I am ready to listen to real debates and I hope CNN will start asking these candidates difficult questions about the real issues.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
  84. GSMITH

    Veterans are smart people, Mitt Romney will defeat President Obama.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
  85. Mark

    Sadly, the comments here mean that the people that have never served don't know what the military vets think. Makes sense that they would want to tell them, much as the current government in office wants to tell the American people.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
  86. jrl1234

    The president that reduces their paychecks Its, simple: 1. the republicans will give them more than the 1.3% annual raise the Obama administration did. 2 The republicans are stronger supporters of the constitutional rights (that they are fighting for) than the democrats are. And to the people making snide comments about pro republican service members, remember that they are fighting for your rights to spread your stupidity in any way you want. – OIF war Vet.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
  87. Jim, Denver CO

    It doesn't mean diddly. As you said veterans typically vote Republican. When it comes down to it regarding who is the better diplomat and will be supporting the military personnel and veterans it will be in President Obama's favor.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  88. Thom in Mississippi

    It means the 34% of us (I served 37 years and six hostile fire tours), that still have hope in the current administration know we MUST show up at the polls and make our voices count.

    Even though Mr Obama has not kept 100% of his word, among veterans, MR etch-a-sketch is known to be to risky an investment.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  89. Mark from New Jersey

    It means one of three things, Jack. It could be that veterans, like other Americans have been taken in by the noxious blather from the first of a torrent of PAC financed negative ads, cynically designed to elect another bellicose Neocon president. It could mean that veterans think that unlimited military spending which Romney appears to favor, actually translates into caring for our veterans. It could mean that these polls are wrong, because even a casual observation shows that Obama appears to genuinely care more about the lives and well-being of Americans, veterans or not, than Romney, whose chief concern is how much money can be generated for himself and the corporations with whom he is affiliated.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  90. Scott from Florida

    Why would Vets vote for the candidate that wants to take away their benefits? Romney has repeatedly stated that he wants to cut benefits for the unemployed, seniors, and VETS. So if they want to vote against their own interests, they will vote for Romney

    May 29, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
  91. carljr

    Jack, the Obama Administration has taken a realistic view of veterans benefits. The simple fact is the country pays too many benefits for the honored service of an all volunteer force. About 40% of Pentagon dollars go to veterans benefits and pensions - that's no sustainable in either an Obama or Romney Administration.

    Honored service deserves our commitment to good benefits. But at the same time the goal of national defense is defend the nation. If we continue to turn the Department of Defense into the Department of Really Great Benefits we fail to do that.

    It is ironic that this President has been more veteran friendly then the last one. Romney, predictably, told audiences last week he'd restore Defense cuts in the budget deal so he's viewed as the 'meal ticket' more than President Obama.

    This one's not hard Jack, it's a 'show me the money' issue for veterans..

    May 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  92. Ronnie B.

    This vet won't be supporting Romney – neither will many of those who served with me. Anyone associated with Mr Trump does not rate highly in my books.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  93. Yomi Olalere

    It simply means:
    1. Veterans are more inclined to war than
    2. It means they do not appreciate whatever Obama has done to help them and their families
    3. It means they are unhappy with defence cuts
    4. It meanssome veterans are not eductaed on Obama's policies
    5. It means they are somewhat naive and ready to wholly accept whatever John Mccain and his brother tells them
    6. It means they prefer war to peace
    Republicans want to balance budget yet, they are in haste to attack Iran and engage in Syria. Where do you get funds to manage the war that doesn't have a sole return to your economy? If the peace is going to affect all nations then, why will US be sticking out his head only? Veterans, read, study and understand the trends.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  94. Bob the Janitor

    With the veteran vote goes the veteran's wife's vote...you may as well double the percentages. Obama is in serious trouble...too little, too late.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  95. Stella-Northern New York

    Hello Jack. Not from where I sit. I'm surrounded by soldiers and vets and they are overwhelmingly behind President Obama. Take a good look at the picture you posted. Romney and 4 vets. The vet holding Romney's hand and Romney himself are not smiling. Could this elderly and honorable veteran be trying to talk some sense into Romney? Two other vets appear serious and not particularly happy or impressed with Romney. Now center in on the Vet with the mustache. Now there's a picture of a man that shows you exactly how it really is. When are you going to start telling it like it really is Jack????

    May 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  96. Dave, Orlando, FL

    It means that veterans don’t know what’s good for them. Bush did not and Romney, if elected, will not do jack for veterans. Most likely he will cut any benefits they have left at this point.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  97. T H

    It means Obama has work to do. it would be hard to beat this Administration on Foreign policy so the Republicans need to give credit or they look weak and desporate. American shouldn't have to go it alone and bear the burden without a lot of help. This President has done more for Vets than any President in years. Interesting poll though. I don't get it.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  98. Mark, NY

    A lot of veterans are turned off by the extreme anti-war rhetoric from the left. Just like the MSNBC host recently said, liberals don't respect veterans. So why should veterans vote for a democrat?

    May 29, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
  99. Truth Squad

    What is it with these brain dead liberals that haven't voted for a person who served in the armed service since JFK and are continually attacking Republicans who don't serve?

    DId Obama serve in the military? Did he perform some great service that kept him out? Stop attacking Romney's mission work.

    Obama ESCALTED Afhghanistan, sent troops to Lybia, yes Lybia. Which country was a greater threat Lybia or Iraq?

    Sarah Palin has a son in the service, does it matter to you? Of course not. McCain fought in the war, and you all voted against him.

    I hear people attacking Romney and calling him a "draft dodger"? Seriously? After voting for Clinton over war hero HW BUSH, you are going to get on your high horse and call Romney a draft Dodger?

    Stop acting like you really care about Military Service, you double-standard bearing left-wing hacks.

    THIS is the reason the Military will always to predominantly Republican. Even though there are some patriots that vote Democrat, as long as the riff-raff exists as the their base, true patriots must always go right.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
  100. Bob

    It could mean they don't know Romney was a draft dodger.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
  101. Sam

    This veteran voted for Obama and will do so again. Most of the Republicans talk the talk when it comes to veterans but when you look at who has shown leadership and who has really demonstrated care and concern for the veterans and their families Barack Obama and Bill Clinton both did far more than George W. Bush for all his bluster and tough talk ever did. It's true that veterans as a group tend to vote more conservatively but a great many veterans have fallen hook, line, and sinker for the claim that Democrats don't care about vets. Anyone who dares to become educated and look at the facts knows otherwise.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
  102. Timothy, Bakersfield

    It just means veterans are like every other American. Polls show Romney doing increasingly better and better against Obama, so the majority of veterans know Romney will be the better president (not that it is hard following a horrible president like Obama).

    May 29, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
  103. Jennifer M in Winnipeg

    "in another poll, Obama leads by 7 points' what does that mean Jack? It means that you can't take the outcome of a poll to the bank. They mean nothing!

    May 29, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  104. nolimits3333

    Republicans have cut taxes for the rich so much that veterans are not going to get their benefits.

    Somehow veterans never make this connection.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  105. Ron WPAFB

    Did you poll every veteran, NO! You can't rely on polls, it is not news and it is not scientific! In the other comments are the people who hang on to the Republican Sound Bytes that this president has never suggested, has never spoken and is just GOP rhetoric! It is only perpetuated by the media! Even the NRA has started the , "Obama is going to take your guns", again. It's idiotic just like Veterans are for Romney!

    May 29, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
  106. jrw1jrw2

    Well you have to be a little masochistic to go fight a war for the benefit of the rich, oil companies, and big business (and, oh yes, I almost forgot, "freedom"), so why not a little "4 years of Romney" to top it off?

    May 29, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
  107. Jim Charlotte NC

    Job security. When Romney is elected we get to enter more wars and more debt paying for two or more wars in the Middle East.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
  108. NudeTruth

    Actually, Vets prefer Ron Paul over both Obama and Romney.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  109. Tom Bulger, Canandaigua, NY

    It means they don't watch the news. The Republicans cut the VA budget every year of their past administration. President Obama has increased VA spending, demanded accountability, and improved health care immeasurably. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  110. Randy Retired Army in Atlanta, GA

    The veterans better think about how many LESS deployments their servicemembers will endure under Obama's watch than Romney's. How quickly we forget the physical and psychological damage each deployment inflicts.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  111. Cee.La

    Its not unusual, Conservatives for the most part, give the Military a free pass ,unlimited spending......Why would you bite the hand that feeds you......

    May 29, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  112. JasonP

    So... veterans prefer people who send them to die over people who bring them home. Got it.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
  113. Siesta1000

    Romney is benefiting from the right wing media. The old vets are having a tough time remembering that he spent the years during the Vietnam war in Paris living in a mansion and dodging the draft. That should push them toward a more vet friendly candidate. Romney wants to reduce veterans benefits. I would not trust Romney on foreign policy, Obama is a proven leader with a demeanor that lends itself well to tough decision making. Romney is wishy-washy and has not been tested.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
  114. Donaldo

    Yesterdays eshibition by Obama at the Viet Wall said it all. Hundreds of people, including friends of mine who lost friends and family could not get in to celebrate what they do every Memorial Day, why? Obama was making a political speach. This is shameless and shows a real disconnect with the average American who proudly honor others on this day. I can tell you there were a lot of very unhappy Americans who had to delay or cancel their memorial celebration, all for a talking head. No wonder vets feel the way you describe, they see it better than most of us. Obama really missed the point of the Viet wall, if he ever did. Vets want a real leader, not a pretend celebrity.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
  115. Dave, Boston MA

    Jack, it means that the people who have given more to this country than anyone else are speaking, and it would behoove all of us to listen.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
  116. Diane Reeves

    The 24-point lead among veterans for Romney reflects the fact that most are older veterans on medication for senile dementia who haven't a clue that veterans' benefits are actually provided by the US government, headed by President Obama.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
  117. Dave Jaipersaud

    Something must be wrong with the way these veterans thing. Romney wants to cut their social security benefits, cut their medical benefits, cut their food stamp benefits, where as President Obama wants to protect and enhance those benefits, but yet they somehow think that Romney is the guy that has their back. This defies any form of rational thought and behavior. I cannot understand such ignorance. It is baffling to me. Maybe I am just overthinking it, and maybe it is just because that other guy has a permanent tan. What else could it be? It is just plain strange.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  118. cancergal

    When asked any of his 5 sons be in military during '08 presidential campaign, Romney said,"Heeheee, they need to help me to run the presidential campaign." If the vet or other voters support another Republicans in WH, they deserve to send and throw their life to another unnecessary wars. Don't ask me to donate to the vet again.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
  119. from Georgia

    Many of the older veteran voters are very conservative. I have trouble understanding how they can line up with a political group that so resembles the workings of the Nazis. They are not keeping up with the inner workers of the GOP and how the rich are stealing our country....unless they are part of it. The younger Veterans are becoming more educated and will prove to be more moderate. My father was a Vet and a Democrat all of his life. In the years before he died he became more conservative. I encouraged him to research what conservatives were saying: to check out the facts, not the words. I taught him how to research statements, not to take them for face value and he rewarded my efforts with moving back to where he had spent most of his life: a moderate. For example, President Obama is NOT a socialist and those who claim he is are truly ignorant of the real life functioning of socialism. It is a scare tactic often used by the Nazis and Communists to hoard followers under their wings. They also don't realize that our forefathers were a social group and did what they did for the people as a whole and gave warning against the "aristocracy of moneyed corporations". The tea party GOP is ripping off the country in such financially complex ways that the average person cannot see or understand and so they ignore it. My husband will not vote this year because he was a moderate Republican and admits he cannot understand where that party is going right now. We, the People, have lost control of our government. I am glad that one Vet asked the right questions, did the right research and began to follow the truth.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
  120. beevee

    Waht that means is that the veterans are thinking through who would be better leader for the country well enough, are prejudiced and biased. Simple.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
  121. cahoona

    Must be only officers and ncos are donating and the lower ranks taking polls.I used to ba a GOPer and a 23 year reservest.You cant pay me enough to vote for romney.This old republican is voting democrat across the board.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
  122. keeth

    It doesn't mean much at this point. Wait until the debates. Romney will bury himself.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
  123. anonymousflux

    It means nothing. Veterans in the end know Obama has ended one war and is wrapping up another. Veterans should be more worried because Romney's chest beating is signaling to the voters he want us to think he's a hawk – which translates into sending more troops into harms way and raising the deficit even more with uncalled for wars. And as a chicken hawk – he makes a lot of noise for the extreme right-wingers who could care less that with the draconian cuts to healthcare he plans to make – including veteran affairs – he will be most vets worst nightmare. All the vets need to do is think a little. And weigh his words against his actions – which so far have only been to tilt rightwards to suck up for the votes of the truly mindless segments of the population. And to those vets who don't think – they get what they deserve.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
  124. Joe Varone

    Jack, it means that Americans are easily stoked up to vote against their own interests. Overall, only 1% should legitimately vote republican to support their interests, but actual is around 50%. What does that mean Jack?

    May 29, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
  125. Etesot Obe

    Unfortunately, it means that they watch Fox News. Anyone who views FOX News suffers from me a diminshed IQ and will support Republican. In short, Jack, FOx News is unkind to our Veterans during in political seasons!

    May 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  126. Gordo from NJ

    Sadly, It means all too many of my fellow veterans are gullible fools, willing to let arm-chair-warrior Romney send their children–not his–to fight in Iran or maybe even Russia. Even though I opposed the Vietnam War at the time, I was proud of my service there and that of my brothers in arms. The meme that all veterans are natural Republicans is total nonsense. If Republicans really cared for the troops, they would not have been so 'gung ho' to send them to a pointless war in March, 2003.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  127. A Southern Lady - North Carolina

    Many of the Vets are older white men, the basis for the Republican party. If Romney is elected, I predict we will be at war with Iran or Syria within six months of his election. Romney never served a day in the military by going to France as a missionary for the Morman Church. None of Romneys five sons have ever served a day in the ROTC or the military. When asked about this, he said his sons were doing their duty by working for his campaign. WoW! The constant stream of propaganda coming from Fox News plus all the far-right radio talking heads have done a good job of distoring the facts. A good and decent man sits in the White House and has done an excellent job of assisting recovery from eight years of Bush, has engineered the killing of Ben Ladin, has worked to assist and honor vets. Romney wants to engage in battles while Obama wants peace and our people at home.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  128. Angela Charlotte, NC

    I would hate to think veterans would vote for a war mongering individual like Mitt Romney. I wonder if any of his five sons have served or would sign up! Many veterans are from the Republican south and probably from states who have historically been racist. Say no more!

    May 29, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  129. Bob, A veteran, Baltimore, MD

    It means that there are many veterans out there that have no clue of the Republican's budget priorities that place veterans very far down on the list.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
  130. Thom Richer

    Right, Jack. And pigs can fly.

    Thom Richer
    Negaunee, MI

    May 29, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
  131. captainfantastic

    What it means Jack is one more day of you digging up any slant possible to put the President in a negative light. Move over to FOX...for crying out loud.

    If you really want to know what it means it is simply that many in the military tend to be right wing believers...noting more, nothing less.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
  132. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    The military has term limts and I think Veterans believe Presidents should have a one term limit.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
  133. Edward

    It means veterans have been destroyed both in body and mind. Montreal, Canada

    May 29, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  134. MilitaryAF

    The poll showing the generational divide stands out. The younger generations no longer follow along with lock-step expectations. They're better educated and have been in a military that stresses an individual's capacity for thought & reason. Younger vets, including myself, will vote based on a candidate's stance on issues, not political party affiliation.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
  135. lcleejr

    its embarrassing as a vet to see other vets support someone who could careless or help us in anyway. what a disaster.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
  136. Nick-o

    If they cared about improving veteran pay and health care, they should stay far away from Romney

    May 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
  137. Jerry from Wisconsin

    Military people like wars and the higher pay and bigger budgets that come with war, especially the lifers. When I was in Viet Name, my supervisor told me that it wasn't be best war, but it's the only one we have and we should be happy that we have one to serve in.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
  138. Mike Tucci

    I certainly admire their bravery and what they have done for this country. But obviously they are confused by the facts, i.e., Romney is basically a Bush clone. Bush = unnecessary ill-conceived Iraq war. Obama is getting them home where they belong.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
  139. Joe

    What it means is that Vets have zero concept of Mitt Romney. Quick note, that while the Vietnam War was going on, Mitt Romney was off in France converting them to his religion for three years. This was followed by a handful of defers while he was going to all those fancy colleges and making sure his wife had plenty of kids. he wasn't going to fight against commies. He was all about the USA being in Vietnam – except he didn't think he needed to fight. He was a coward and a blow hard. The fact that military men and women can put any trust in this man looking out for them is sad.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
  140. Walter

    Obama leads among those who want another four years of true (U-6) unemployment of 15%.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  141. joan

    People indict Romney for not going to war. Obama didn't either. Men vote for Republicans because men earn the money in most families and want to make sure it is spent properly and not given away to GM and other companies that are driven into the ground by Unions. Obama is a disaster, but so many Americans are just not focusing on his record.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  142. insight iowa

    If they are voting against Obama Jack, it has to be because they have not looked at Obama's record this past 3 years. Obama has fought tooth and nail for our vets and he has gotten several bills passed to better their lives now and on return. It should heck wasn't the Republicans... they have said "NO" to every single bill.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
  143. Gary from Virginia

    Jack it means that veterans are not keeping up with what is going on in politics or the poll is wrong.

    May 29, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
  144. EdfromMd

    It means, to a veteran strapping your dog to the roof racks is just good thinkin.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
  145. fofa

    Obama killed Osama Bin Laden and orchestrated the deaths of the biggest Al Qaeda leaders and still, veterans will choose Romney, a candidate with NO proven record.... What does that mean? It means Veterans do not care about facts, and rather cling to their party affiliation.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
  146. Gerry in Hawaii

    What I can't get is why all of these vets voting for a man who has 5 sons and not one of them have service one day in our Military. Go figure

    May 29, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
  147. Michael, from Smiths, Alabama

    As a civilian, I'd have to say that it means Romney is using the classic Republican strategy of fear. They want the United States to remain an armed camp, and they'll pander to the veterans from previous wars to get their way. I truly hope the veterans don't fall for this strategy.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  148. Greg Turman


    this country needs to re institute the draft. Our current all volunteer military is obviously void of intellectuals.
    Let's pass a law to out law guns in Afganistan, Duhhh!!! how dumb can the military be????? It;s Sooo easy!!!
    Gregory Turman

    May 29, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  149. pitbullstew

    Like we used to say in Vietnam? It dont mean nuthin!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  150. w_roos

    Wow. The self-destructive aspects of veterans on full display, if these poll numbers are accurate.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  151. Jerry

    It means America is going to correct a huge mistake it made in 2008, and elect someone that is legal to be the President of the United States of America.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  152. Vicvelez

    This question is absurd and it's questions like this that make dilute the real issues at election time. While I appreciate our veterans, let's start voting as Americans and deal with what needs to be solved. We all want the same things, no matter who you are.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  153. Sid from Spokane

    Jack, I am a veteran (Vietnam) and given the choice between a socialist community organizer and a venture-capitalist draft dodger, I will do what any sensible person would and write in Ron Paul's name. The other two are simply more of the same.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  154. Bob in Texas

    Jack, it means they fail to see Romney for what he truly is, a draft dodging chicken hawk. He was a cheerleader for the Vietnam War, but when it was his time to serve he took two deferments and then did the "Eagle Rock" when he drew a high lottery number. Haven't we had enough of these guys? Didn't we learn anything from Bush Cheney? He's real big on sending other people's kids to war, but when it's time for him or one of his own to serve, he takes the coward's way out.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  155. Mark from Boston


    With all due respect, it means the Veteran status is not the proper metric and you need better analysts. I would argue that more than 80% of those veterans share a common characteristic such as geography or ethnicity and the fact that they're veterans is irrelevant.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  156. Rudy Huxtable

    Sadly Mr. Cafferty if this poll is even true it means that our veterans are terribly misinformed about the current state of politics and foreign affairs. You can guarantee with a Republican in the White House that a new war will be waged (likely in Iran) and that more of our men and women in uniform will be sacrificed for the benefit of big oil.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  157. Kerry

    Bill Maher reported that the polls showed anyone from a LAN line was behind Mitt, those on cell phones overwhelmingly want Obama. That pretty much sums it up. The GOP is obsolete and not up with the changing times. They are going to be hard pressed to find support once the older "silent majority' generation is gone. Here's a tip, they ain't a majority anymore.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  158. Jack - Lancaster, Ohio

    Mr. Cafferty Sir:

    It is painful to observe the population's response to political marketing and maneuvers (m & m's) such that the line is completely fuzzy between intelligent support and...adoration.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  159. Liam in Ottawa

    That's right, just ignore Ron Paul who is still in the race and who has more support from veterans than both of these chickenhawks combined.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  160. Nancy from Iowa

    Jack – It means the vets are as confused as the general public about what President Obama has done for the country in saving it from the brink of disaster. Maybe they were too busy fighting to pay attention to what it was like in 2008! Why they would prefer the shallow Romney is beyond me just like why anyone would prefer Romney other than his fellow church members. God help our country if he should be elected..

    May 29, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  161. Angela

    It means that maybe the veterans are not as smart as they should be. Republicans keep putting them into wars and Democrats keep getting them out. Tell me what sense it makes to go with the party who always wants to go to war.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  162. tommy james

    It means Obama is a failure. time for the USA to move on and get out of the middle east.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  163. Darren Burke

    It means the GOP has been successful in pulling the wool over the eyes of yet another group of voters, who time and time again, salute their service but legislate against their best interest.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  164. Jimmy Phillips

    If veterans knew that Romney was sent over seas to avoid the draft, their opinion would change. Mine did!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  165. Ed in California

    Funny you should ask, when we saw the coverage of Obama addressing the troops on Memorial Day it looked like he had a smirk on his face. Did that smirk mean he had indigestion or that he didn't like what he was doing. Sure, Obama said nice things in support of our armed forces members, but did he mean them?

    Possibly the lack of support by our armed forces means they don't trust Obama?

    May 29, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  166. Leo in NC

    It means that the military is and has been dominated by white men, which is where President Obama lags in general anyway. As a veteran with 3 times the military service of all the GOP candidates and the president combined, I can say that it really means nothing that we didn't already know. I'll still vote for the president again. He has earned my respect as a leader and Commander in Chief.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  167. Jay from Glasgow, KY

    Jack, I have several friends in the military...and just to put it bluntly, they are programmed to vote republican. It is the biggest conspiracy in this nation that is not talked about...but from the top down, it is done everyday...just like poor, rural white america is programmed by foxnews to vote against their own interests.

    So, in summary, people are sheep, and are easily swayed, including our military.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  168. OJ

    It doesn't mean much. Military types normally vote Republican.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  169. jerry from ohio

    It means that veterans believe that president obama's birth certificate is a fake; and they much rather continue to fight in wars instead of coming home!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  170. Yuri from florida

    It is hard to like Obama if you are a veteran. If you are old school then you probably have poor appreciation of people of color. If you are a young veteran then you are not too happy either. Military campaigns helped you fund your family's income while deployed. Now that they are back to poor economy their dissatisfaction is through the roof. I honestly think that Obama should just skip to other population groups that "lived through recession". For every veteran there are many non veterans.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  171. Gary in NY

    When Mittens tries to privatize the VA Medical System and cut benefits, those Vets who voted for him will have buyer's remorse! Anything to prevent the 1% from ponying up! Vets will not be spared but asked to sacrifice even more!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  172. Jeff Hochhalter

    Jack, when it comes to veteran support why not mention Ron Paul, someone listening.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  173. Kelli

    It means MOST veterans are 60+ yo. and back when they joined the military, the country had a more "traditional" tone. Majority are also racist, against gay marriage, all for "how things were back in the day". They are a dying breed and thankfully most of them won't be around to vote, or will probably just forget what day it is.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  174. CJ in alabama

    Jack , I would think perhaps that too many of the vets are not paying attention to what the GOP stands for these days.... and then perhaps they should pay more attention to Mr Romney and who he is pals around with.today. As a wife of a retiree , we fully support our present Commander and Chief over the present wanna be .

    May 29, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  175. Tom G

    It means that the veterans will be voting to end their veterans' benefits. It's one of the republicans main cutting points, their pandering not to the contrary. It bewilders me why people, and this is not at all limited to veterans, vote to their own detriment over things that don't amount to a hill of beans to the welfare of their and their childrens' future. And, yes, Jack, I'm a veteran.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  176. Mark Schaffer

    It means many things. Here a few of those things:
    1. Many veterans still harbor bigotry
    2. The media has failed in it's duty to inform voters
    3. There is nothing special in terms of knowledge that veterans have
    4. Jack Cafferty is busy critiquing the current administration but, apparently, not so much Romney's obvious lies.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  177. michelle - san francisco

    Obama and military veterans a problem? i honestly did not expect otherwise. Is not only is the entire military Republican (90% of them anyway) but particularly veterans. I know a few myself. Most of them were raised republicans and REMAIN republicans, no matter what.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  178. Bob from Texas

    Speaking as a volunteer and veteran of the Vietnam War Era, where was Romney when many of his generation answered the nation's call? France? We have a Commander-in-Chief now, the last thing we need is a Commander-in-Chef.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  179. Harriet

    It means you asked a poorly crafted question, as you said "It's worth pointing out that another poll this month found the president leading Romney among veterans 44% to 37%." One poll says one thing, and the other poll says another. It says that people are not fully engaged and answering pollsters questions. Last week an article discussed how inaccurate polling has been lately. We have to wait until late summer to see how people fee. Further, you said the group represents 13% of the voting population. Well, if current military support Obama, that will mitigate this voting block, however you contrived it.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  180. wayne, va beach, va

    Can only speak for myself, but this 23 year veteran Navy guy is voting fo Mitt. Still believe that NO person should be allowed to be C in C of the armed forces without having first worn a uniform, and I dont mean the uniform of the boy or girl scouts.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  181. Bill

    It means that the polls are wrong. As a Vietnam vet with 34 years of military service I can tell you that President Obama is very respected and appreciated by military veterans. I voted for him the last time and I will be voting for him again. Why don't the pollsters call me?

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  182. Gonfis

    If anyone can even come up with a reason to vote for Obama they are not paying attention. He and his administration are making Carter look presidential. Deficits he and the Democrats are creating along with the communist public employee unions is devastating the future of our children and grandchildren. There are few republicans willing to tackle the size of this government but there are none in the democratic party. If you are for Ron Paul how could you possible back Obama?

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  183. Bev Hall

    It means nothing!! If Romney leads the President at this time from the Veterans, the Veterans need to ask themselves this question. IF Romney is running for the "highest" office, then why would he investf his "millions" overseas, when he is asking for the" American" vote and wants to "lead" America. If he wants to run for something, let him "Lead" where his money is which is NOT in America OR tell him to put his $ where his mouth is.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  184. pacman23

    I will support my president who ever he or she may be, however president obama is trying to correct the mistakes in the past by other presidents who have just swipe all returning vets under the rug. I don't speak for all vets but i feel he is going beyond and then some to ensure all vets are receiving the proper care and assistance needed for our transition back to civilian life.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  185. Obi

    After taking out Bin Laden, ending the war in Iraq and constantly eliminating Al Qaeda leaders, I think the only Veterans in support of Romney are those in coma!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  186. O.T.

    Of course. Obama is fundamentally anti-military. He just likes to appear in front of soldiers when his poll numbers are slipping.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  187. California Gary

    I'm not sure what it means, but it is alarming. How my fellow veterans can favor an empty suit and phony like Romney over the current commander-in-chief who has waged an extremely effective campaign against the people that attacked us on 911.........well it just makes a guy want to say HUH?

    May 29, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  188. Joyce E Neal

    I am a member of the Army Reserve and I support President Obama; anyone can get a poll to go any way they want all they have to do is ask a select group of people; lets see what the ballot count is in November 2012; I am sure that President Obama is going to be re-elected and many individuals that wear the military uniform will cast their vote for President Obama

    May 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  189. Ross

    Jack, I saw a map this memorial day on CNN of those that have been injured or died in Iraq or Afgan. 90% were in the South and Midwest .... poor people who thought the military was a good option. Most of these vets were "red states" people to start with, so they're just voting the way they would have at home anyway, vets or not.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  190. irregardless

    It means nothing Jack, absolutely nothing.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  191. Clinton

    I'm a veteran and I don't support Romney at all. I'm not sure why the poll shows so much support for Romney, the poll doesn't sound accurate. Honestly, the bottom line is, when it comes to military and politics, the Republican propoganda machine has always worked overtime to try and make it seem like they support the Military and the Dems do not. It's a load of bull but it's not hard to convince some people that it's the truth. My fellow veterans have been duped if they really believe that. Personally, i just think the Repubs have spent more time and money reaching out to Veterans than the Dems have, i don't really think it has much to do with facts or reality of the situation.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  192. Larry Williams

    What it means is that you and others in the media have failed to point out what a dismal record Republicans have on veteran's affairs..just like you let them get away with lying about Obama's record all the time..Never used to be like that, when I was a news director back in my day..I am not very proud of the media these days and haven't been for the past 12 years or so.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  193. GuessWho22

    Romeny will gut the VA with his spending cuts, while increasing the military industrial complex at the Pentagon and contractors... VA money funneled to the private sector where emmense profits can be made. Any veteran who supports a Republican in this new era of obstructionism and favoritism toward the wealthy and powerful is shameful. When these old coots die-off, perhaps we can salvage the American dream for the middle class who are the ones that fought in this illgotten wars by evil-doers that started them – REPUBLCANS. Lest we never forget Vietnam and how trickery got us into that war, the Persian Gulf wars, even WW1 and WW2 were started with lies and events allowed to transpire

    May 29, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  194. Jim Fuquay

    As a Vietnam Era veteran I am 100% behind President Obama. He has done a lot for veterans since becoming President. He has gotten us out of Iraq and will soon draw down troops in Afghanistan. He connects with veterans and active duty soldiers. the 1st Lady and Ms Biden are doing great things for the soldiers when they return from war; they are continuous advocates. In addition, the VP's sons has recently served. I am puzzled that some veterans would support Romney when he spent 3 years in France on a church mission trip while many of us were serving during Vietnam. Where are the Swift Boat boys now?

    May 29, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  195. Clare from Florida

    Jack: Deceptive question. You neglected to mention that most veterans asked were over the age of 67 and they would probably not have voted for him the first time. I would be anxious to know how the ACTIVE military feels. Both the President and Vice President have done much for the young soldiers. Likewise their wives.Seems to me Romney had real advantages in living in France as a missionary during the Vietnam War. Also, his sons were apparently not incllined to be part of the military instead in Romney's own words they were busy trying to get him elected President.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  196. James in San Diego

    It means that veterans benefits should be cut along with all other social programs. Got to keep the money available for those needy defense contractors.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  197. Gary in NY

    Veterans who vote for Romney will have buyer's remorse when he cuts benefits and tries to privatize the VA Medical System! Anything to protect the 1%. Veterans will not be spared and asked to sacrifice even more!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  198. John

    It shows that the military and the people who were in the military know who really respects America.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  199. JLK in Tucson

    Yesterday Viet Nam veterans and the gamilies of Viet Nam veterans killed in action whose names were etched on the Wall were denied access to their memorial. On Memorial Day, of all days because Obama security closed access to the Vietnam Nam Memorial for over five hours yesterday so he and his political cronies could film a 15 minute political video with a few hand-picked Veteran's. It's no wonder Romney is favored by veterans.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  200. ed

    Wow I would wonder where they did that poll at or who did the poll. I guess the same vets that were getting shot at in Viet Nam didnt know that Romney got 5 deferments from military service and was in Paris doing missionary work during viet nam. I guess all the work Obama has been doing to try and help veterans get back to work has gone unnoticed and just like they booed Michelle Obama for trying to help military families . Ungrateful is the word that comes to mind.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  201. David P Vernon

    Tucson, AZ – A 20 point lead in one Gallup poll in May actually means nothing. Gallup polls always give Republicans an edge. Poll results depend on the phrasing of the questions – change a few words and the results can be totally reversed. Older veterans favor Republicans by reflex – current troops and recently separated veterans do not – so the sampling technique, which is not mentioned, may have biased the results. The real poll, the election, is six months away, and the electorate has been known to totally reverse itself in two weeks. You also mentioned, briefly, another poll that shows Obama leading now among veterans. When two polls of the allegedly same demographic yield opposite results, both polls are suspect. The polls will not actually reflect the probable outcome of the election until September. In the meantime, none of these surveys proves anything. Both campaigns will both strive between now and the election to win support from veterans. Neither can take comfort in the one of two polls that says they are, right now, ahead.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  202. Chuck, Georgia

    It tells us what we already know. The Republicans, the suragats of American Business money pour money into the Military Industrial Complex. These jobs turns on blue colar workers plus they like the 'tough guy' talk. They don't know that their wages have been flat since 1970 and they are getting screwed. The old vetrans like them also because they believe Republicans insist on more armaments that "soldiers deserve". They too don't know that they get short shrift on pay and benefits for risking their lives. We have a new wave of vetrans who are not the 'two to four year and out' but career military who won't long sit still for the Fear dialog of Republicans and Democrats.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  203. JLK in Tucson

    CORRECTION: Yesterday Viet Nam veterans and the families of Viet Nam veterans killed in action whose names were etched on the Wall were denied access to their memorial. On Memorial Day, of all days, because Obama security closed access to the Vietnam Nam Memorial for over five hours yesterday so he and his political cronies could film a 15 minute political video with a few hand-picked Veteran's. It's no wonder Romney is favored by veterans.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:28 pm |

    May 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  204. Will in Amarillo

    I don't like either one of them and it has nothing to do with veteran status. I voted today for Ron Paul in the Texas Primary and he's a veteran but that's not why I voted for him.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
  205. Mike

    The numbers are arbitrary at this point. I'd rather take my chances with Obama than go back in time with a financial tycoon, in bed with other tycoons, who will inevitably spiral our Country further into debt chasing insurgents around the globe willy nilly. Obama attempts to maintain a sympathy with the middle class, something I have yet to see from his contender. Republicans historically look out for their wealthy counterparts, which is why this Country is suffering as much as it is financially. Veterans should be willing to defend this Country financially as well as with ther lives. Everything about the Republican Party is currently in stark contrast to financial reform and strong domestic policy. What we need
    is a strong home defense, not a house of cards.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  206. Alfred P Juenemann

    The question should be, who do the 87% of non-veterans support ? As much as I admire and respect veterans (like myself, my Dad and both Grandfathers) we are 13% of the population. Senator McCain was supported by the majority of vets in 2008 and wound up a distant second because the majority of voters supported Senator Obama.

    Pete, St Pete, FL

    May 29, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  207. Joe V, Marco Island, Florida

    I think that Romney's 24 point lead iover Obama from our Veterans perspective is signicant. Not only the veterans vote is counted but their wives, friends, children and other family members would impact the vote. This number can possibly double!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
  208. J Brandt

    This poll reflects the fact that Obama does better the higher the education level of the voter, while Romney leads with non-college educated white males. 93% of new recruits lack a college education, so of course Romney does better with this group.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
  209. LouAZ

    This USAF Vet (1963-67) will NOT vote for Romney/Trump.
    Lou in Scottsdale Aridzona

    May 29, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
  210. NoWay

    Want to return to the draft? That's what will happen to support the next republican war.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
  211. Jim

    Veterans reconize that this country was developed and will survive by two major things, a strong military and a strong work ethic. They know the sacrifice as to what they and other veterans made for this country. Republicans tend to favor a strong defense and military so of course they will favor Mitt Romney. Democrats have great compassion for the underprivilged and of course want to help them. Unfortunalty many of the underprivilged now believe that they are entitled to goverment help without having to work for it. These entitlements are destroying the work ethic in this country, veterans know this, and that is why they tend not to vote Democrats/President Obama. Veterans see these basic principles as to our countrys survival.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
  212. EofSparta

    I don't think it means much. I don't believe that veterans' vote as a block. They may appear conservative and mostly male and you'd expect them to vote Republican. But I think there's more to it ... they vote pocket book issues like the rest of us. Jobs, incomes, unemployment, fiscal policy, immigration policy, trade policy. I don't think veterans want more wars, either.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  213. w2lucky

    Obama is fighting hard to raise Tricare premiums for retired veterans. Of course I'm going to vote for Romney. I did twenty two years and get 55% of last my basic pay for a pension. Congressmen/women get 100% after getting elected once and doing a two year stint. What is Obama doing about that? Any veteran that votes for Obama clearly hasn't done his/her homework.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  214. Gary in NY

    I slept in a rice paddy for 13 months as a young Marine while Mittens was wrestling a pesky box toliet in Paris! Romney has already mentioned privatizing the VA Medical System. Obama has done more with Veteran benefits in 3 years than the previous C of C who started 2 Wars!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
  215. ed in Florida

    Jack, I dont know about your poll of military voters but just reading the comments to it has in favor of Obama by about 80 percent to 20 percent. Almost every post I read was in favor of the president. My guess is they took that poll at a tea party rally because no intelligent person wouldnt recongnize that this president has busted his tail looking out for our veterans and has done so without the support of our republican congress

    May 29, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
  216. Spiders in Phoenix

    Come on Jack, there IS a major presidential candidate that IS running that IS a veteran! You may have heard of his name... Ron Paul. He may not be actively campaigning, but he is still securing delegates for sure! Oh, and he seems to be pretty popular among veterans and active military alike!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
  217. shack

    So while I was in SE Asia, Mitt Romney was on a mission in France, but I'm supposed to support him?? I'm still trying to figure out why vets voted for Dick Cheney, a man that recieved 5 deferments to avoid serving. Wow this country is backward.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
  218. Prince, Silver Spring, MD

    Jack you wanna know why Romney is leading Obama in the polls among veterans? It's the McCain effect stupid! Romney has the most decorated and revered veteran on his side in the person of John McCain which has given him a shot in the "thump" when it comes to veterans' votes. The real question is, will the 13% of veterans who are registered voters be able to erase the deficit that Romney currently has in the polls when it comes to young, black, women, and latino voters? The answer in my view is a BIG no! Over to you Jack!

    May 29, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
  219. Chris

    Obama losing with the vets.

    Obama losing with the suburbs.

    Obama losing with the independents.

    This is what happens when you don't follow through on the lofty rhetoric.

    Obama loses.

    And we will be a better country for it.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  220. Jeff

    I seems to me that the current Commander on Chief is doing a smart job of prosecuting the remaining war. He's proven to be very gutsy when he needs to make tough calls, and not afraid to use new technologies that work. The pentagon might do well taking notes, because "the times, they are a-changin'".

    May 29, 2012 at 5:50 pm |
  221. Lynette from TX

    It means they are glued to Fox Noise as their sole source of "reporting." The also listen to the craziness of Limbaugh. Is it any wonder? I see this with my uncles, who are both Army vets. They won't even venture anywhere else so never see unbiased reporting. It's very scary to me.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
  222. Tom in Pennsylvania

    It means there are a lot of uninformed veterans in our country.Romney is a Viet Nam era draft dodger who conveniently did his Morman mission in France at the height of the conflict.No Viet Nam veteran shound vote for this fortunate son.

    May 29, 2012 at 5:52 pm |