Is President Obama simply using gay marriage for political gain?
FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Today's definition of political opportunism? Gay marriage.
President Obama has been in office for 3 1/2 years and has artfully dodged the question of whether same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.
Suddenly his vice president, Joe Biden, comes out publicly and says he doesn't see anything wrong with gay marriage.
And right away people want to know where the president stands.
Then the voters of North Carolina go to the polls and overwhelmingly pass a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.
Again the questions: Where does the president stand?
Suddenly at 3 o'clock this afternoon, after 3 1/2 years of not answering the question, Mr. Obama decides to take a position.
All of a sudden he thinks same-sex marriage is a good idea.
He's locked in what promises to be a close race against Mitt Romney.
So picking this moment to pander to the gay and lesbian community on the issue of same-sex marriage suits his political purpose, which is to be re-elected.
One of the major broadcast networks interrupts programming to breathlessly report that the president has decided that it's OK for same-sex couples to marry.
Pardon me if I don't hyperventilate over all of this. We have real issues in this country for which President Obama has been glaringly short on answers.
We have more than $15 trillion of debt, an unemployment rate that's an embarrassment for the largest free-market system in the world, a Congress that refuses to agree on whether it's daylight outside or not, and the country is supposed to come to a screeching halt because President Obama was pressured into taking a position on a wedge issue. I'll pass.
Oh, and at the end of the day, it's still up to the states.
Here’s my question to you: Is President Obama simply using gay marriage for political gain?
Tune in to the Situation Room at 5pm to see if Jack reads your answer on air.
And, we love to know where you’re writing from, so please include your city and state with your comment.
@jackcafferty on Twitter
This is not about politics. This is about civil rights. Gay men and women deserve the same rights given to women, people of color, and those that are handicapped. ALL of us should remember the words, ALL men are created equal!
Yes! Of course he is! Even though he has been raking in more cash than any other candidate, Super PACs that are supporting Mitt Romney are bringing in Hundreds Of Millions of Dollars and he is trying to regain support in the LGB Community & collect more cash for his Re-Election Campaign!
What a question to ask, Jack. It appears to me that the risk of losing votes is more of an issue than gaining votes now that our President has come out and acknowledged what we all knew he thinks: All people who live in this country should have the right to marry whomever they choose. I think it will benefit him in November but right now there are people who will not support him because of this.
If he is he hasn't used it very well. I have to admit that my views on a great many things including this one have evolved over the years as well, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt on this. That said he is a politician, so assuming that politics and getting elected is more important than principle is usually a good assumption.
If it is, it is really just too typical, too political. I really never expected this from him he should concentrate on the economy.
No, Jack, the President said he was "evolving", he has now "evolved"! I think it's more courageous than "risky" especially since everyone keeps questioning this man's on-going efforts to display equality and decency towards every American! Why would in-listed Gay Military men and women stand on battlefields for our rights and not theirs?
Are you serious ???
Name ONE thing he doesn't do for political gain.
Just one.
I find this issue sickening. I have always been an active Democrat; I even was a delegate in 84. This is the first time i am going to sit at home on election day. I could never vote for a Republican. It saddens me that the party I have loved has left me. Next they will say Bisexuals should have the right to have two partners with equal benifets. When will tha madness end.
Say What! You got to be Kidding...I know more Christians who have Gay family members than Liberal and atheists
Isn't the entire elected federal and state government political? Why not just state the obvious , quit picking on him, and move on to relevant issues
Obama would say hes gay if it would get him elected and more votes. Anything has done since 2008 is for votes to get re elected. Im a male and im a lesbian also. I love women TOO! lol
terence, nj
Everything's political Jack. But in this case, I think this is how he really feels.
Of course he is. I think we are all aware that this will be a state law...state by state...as it should be. I support gay marriage. He is a master manipulator and this is just another indicator of that fact. He has not been a good president and him coming out in support of gay marriage does not change that fact.
Who cares if it is for political gain, everything a politician does is for political gain, and that goes for both sides. The answer to this situation is, if you can't bring yourself to allow gay couples the same legal status as straight couples, then you have to remove all the benefits that a conventional marriage enjoys. So then you have to tell everyone they have to give up hospital visitation privliges, legal estate privliges, financial favorings, and anything that smacks of a plus over not being in a conventional marriage. Screw it, let's just remove marriage completely and go to a civil contract only society, and anyone who wants a biblical marriage can be branded a religious zealot and a possible terrorist.
Of course he is. I think we are all aware that this will be a state law...state by state...as it should be. I support gay marriage. He is a master manipulator and this is just another indicator of that fact. He has not been a good president and him coming out in support of gay marriage does not change that fact.
I think Obama's personal views on this are of minor interest. It's not high on my priority list either way, but I'm old and not gay. For my son and his peers, it's just considered why not? Not a pressing priority, they assumed it'd happen
Carol in Ma.
Probably. Biden's statements on the subject sort of forced Obama's hand. Perhaps he may have been waiting for what he felt was a more opportune time. For whatever reason, it would appear that his now public stance will lose him as many votes as it has gained. So in the end it's a wash.
Martha, Rew, PA
Jack of course he is using same sex marriage for his own political gain. Obama is like a puppet ...whoever or whatever pulls his strings he changes his opnion to match it.The man is pathetic and needs to be voted out so we can elect a strong leader and get our great country back on the right track.
Everyone knew what he thought about gay marriage. He was just too chicken to say. He wanted to sneak up on it after the election. That was what he thought would be his political gain.
Biden by telling his position on gay marriage, made it obvious that Obama was being the politician.
Obama had no choice. He was looking like a political wimp.
My question is...... when a candidate, over time, changes their mind on an issue - why is it that one candidate might be labeled as 'evolving' or 'making a historic shift' while another candidate is labeled a 'flipflopper'? I'd like to know the difference, as from what I see and hear, the terminology used tells more about the media's agenda than the candidate's stand. Just curious.
I think this is a case of the tail wagging the dog, the tail being Joe Biden. I wouldn't ever call the President a dog so I won't finish the previous sentance. The President however, has mentioned dogs a lot lately. I wouldn't want to be the Presidents dog. Its one thing to be strapped to a roof. Its another thing being served for supper. Anyways, getting back to the original question, I think President Obama is getting a little case of Joe biden envy. Joe Biden may be the most popular politician in the country right now. Everyone is anticipating what good old Joe is going to come out with next. So I think the President came out in favor of gay marriage just to put Joe back in his place. Obama is quite an entertainer himself, and he doesn't like playing second fiddle. Doug, Pepperell, MA.
I changed my mind to support gay right from what I learned in church – my guess is the President has too. People need to focus on their own business and not try to impose their beliefs on everyone else. Congress and americans need to Focus on what's really important – FIX THE ECONOMY so the unemployed have a better opportunity to get a job.
Yes, Jack, I believe he is, if not then why hadn't the President come out in favor of it before. Pres. Obama seems to be good at pandering to "special interest groups" like supports of same-sex marriage and illegal immigrants when he believes he will benefit from doing so.
It's time to move on. Cede the word "marriage" to the religions. Make everyone, homosexual and heterosexual alike, enter into civil unions that are recognized by all federal, state, county and municipal governments.
No, this is how he has been leaning all of the time. You never want to say bad things about Gay people because who knows how your relatives might turn out Romney.
That 15 trillion dollar debt is thanks to Bush and the Republican congress. If only Kerry had been elected, America's economy wouldn't be in this condition. Our President and his cabinet is working very hard to get things back in order.
Yes, the President is using his endorsement of gay marriage as a campaign strategy, since the vote in NC yesterday.
All week the President has been "Evolving"...so, we're to believe, that yesterday, he was evolving? And, today, he has
Evolved? Seriously, his deceptive political nonsense is insulting to our intelligence.
Why not. GOP uses selective verses from the Bible to attack Gays so why not reach out to them. One man, one woman yet King david had multiple wives and concubines. GOP not interested in eliminating Gays but God did a Sodom and Gomorrah. They condemn Islam for stonings but they are there for anyone to read about. Can't cut off the hand of a theif but there it is in black and white. Can't own a slave but the Bible approves.
Uh huh, sure, Jack, this is all about political advantage, because the "gay vote" is such a huge portion of the electorate and is crucial to the election of any modern president in this day and age. Seriously, Jack, give Obama some credit for taking a stand on a controversial issue.
No, the extreme right is never going to vote for Pres. Obama, and he knows that. People who understand the issues are going to vote for him any and he knows that as well. Romney can't seem to quit contradicting himself or lying as Newt put it, and I believe that Pres. Obama felt his hesitation would bring him charges that he had lowered himself to Romney's level.
Are regressives opposing it to gain support, you bet, so why not. Can't wait for the day all Gays move out of the South and take their business with them then watch them question why Gays don't want to live there.
The same question could've been asked of Civil Rights for blacks and other minorities. For people to simply ignore or dismiss the gay/lesbian community is making the same mistakes made during the 1960s, namely delaying a final decision on the matter until stringent measures by the states forces gays and lesbians into a kind of 'second-class citizen' status..something the Southern states especially tried to do with the blacks.
of course he is. So what? Politics is about cementing your base, Romney has done it by pandering to the religous right ans Obama has done it by pandering to the Progressive left, It's politics people grow up
Yes, and yes he should because he's the peoples' President. Whether it's a political gain or loss is yet unknown and personally I don't care. What I do care about is our gay/lesbian children who are bullied and committing suicide because they are treated as outcast in this free World. Maybe this will help save a life.
Mr. Cafferty:
The reality is...practially all politicians use issues of opportunity for political gain. I am not surprised that on the news this date several senators and senatoritas are leaving government. The devils can't take the heat ! They lack an issue to advance their status.
No, he was ignoring it for political gain, until people realized that African American voters, particularly in the south, will never, ever, ever vote for a Republican candidate, considering the number of Dixiecrat segregationists now in its ranks, who have been there since Nixon's southern strategy. The fact is, Obama's position that civil unions are OK by marriage is not is considered unconstitutional in the 9th Circuit, and likely will be nationally. The Carolina amendment, which prohibits even civil unions, is totally unacceptable (and Obama was never for it) because it infantalizes gays, forever making them members of their family of origin rather than a family of choice.
EVERYTHING that Obama does is purely political and he will do ANYTHING to try to get re elected! However, with real unemployment at record highs, the economy "in the tank', the spending and debt crisis totally out of control, the US losing respect and credibility around the world, this issue will do nothing to "improve his image" with the American voter. As Romney said, "It's the economy and we're not stupid!"
The Republican party's willfully, ideologically partisan-driven responses to the president are for political gain. THEY don't consider his position political gain for Democrats – and they will spend the entire summer trying to make political dividends off the revelation among their base's homophobic block.
Everything Obama does is political. I wonder how many polls he looked at to determine that this would not hurt him. Just like Romney panders to the right Obama does to the left.
No. I think he really believes that. But, the question should have been, Do you think Presidente Obama has gone nuts? Daaaaaaa!
No doubt that President Obama simply using gay marriage for political gain! I really do not think if he is a true Christian or Muslim or Jew – i.e. a man of faith – would come against GOD creation of Adam and Eve!
He is thinking in terms of the 1st Amendment and doesn't believe it is right to put prejudice and hate into our constitution.
Doesn't matter if he is or isn't. Better question is whether it is the right and just thing to do. Answer to that is a resounding Yes, it is.
For those that claim this is about civil rights: do you really believe that? Because if you do, then by definition that means that no two consenting adults can be denied marriage - which means that you support the legalisation/gov't recognition of incestuous marriages between a father and a grown son, or between two full sisters. If that thought turns your stomach and you are unable to publicly support that in front of friends or on FB, then you are really no different than any typical conservative - you draw a line in the sand dividing a larger group of people that you'll let marry and a smaller group of people that you won't let marry.
All politicians do things for political gain. I don't care what his reasons were. I'm just very glad he did it.
If he is, he's mistaken. This issue and view will hurt him more than help him politically. Not sure why he chose to express this view now. Not sure it was simply politically motivated. Simply a personal view maybe.
Obama just said that to get reelected .... remember Guantanamo; he said he'll close it but until now it's still open.
Romney would let his dog ride on his lap in his fancy limo if he would get more votes. Why is this so shocking, a President changes his mind. Really Jack?
Of course Obama’s new evolutionary cognitive perception pertaining to gay marriage is political. How is this even in question when one realizes that anything any politician expresses is political!
2000 Years of Judaic/Christian Values destroyed in one day.
Since this President has no core, everything he does is political. Obama is America's biggest mistake.
Government should stay out of people's bedroom and out of the uterus of women.
CHOICES (which the wealthy always have) are all we the middle/poor have left. Don't let the wealthy take our choices away.
No POUS is not using this issue as a political issue if he was he would have kept his mouth shout until after the election. Everyone against this issue touts there religious beleifs but no one ever explains what gives them the right to desriminate against and deny legal recignition of loving commited monogamous relationships no matter what lable or name you put on it.
This should take flip-flopping out of the election discussion. Romney's response was appropriate. This is merely a diversion which takes away from the people are most interested in --- JOBS!
If Romney does increase in polls, what will be the next issue brought up by the administration to move away from job creation and 52% working to support 48%?
Jack, I really don't know for sure. However, I am certain that every pundit will tell us exactly what it means. Maybe after a week of nonstop coverage, we will all know what we are supposed to think. Frankly, I'd be happy if everyone got out of the bedrooms of others.
All politicians do things for political gain. That's how they get re-elected. I don't care why he did it. I'm just very glad he did.
Is President Obama simply using gay marriage for political gain?
Answer : it looks like you've already answered your question, Jack. ""All of a sudden he thinks same-sex marriage is a good idea. He's locked in what promises to be a close race against Mitt Romney"" ""We have real issues in this country for which President Obama has been glaringly short on answers""
Why do you think he's going on the late nite talk shows ? He is going for the Youth Vote, the People that could NOT Vote for him in 2008, because they were 14 years old, 15 years old, 16 years old, and 17 years old. NOW – they have the opportunity to & will Vote for him.
Democrats, what the shame. I can not get it...President is OK with the same sex marriage. I know something for sure. Mitt Romney will become the next president of USA, and God bless him.
There is no state in the Union that currently or ever has banned homosexuals from getting married. The ban is on same-sex marriages, which is different. Whenever I see or hear the term "gay marriage" I immediately know it's a political discussion that's not based in fact. Any person in the United States can openly declare they are a homosexual with no sexual interest in the opposite sex whatsoever, yet they will still legally be allowed to marry a consenting adult of the opposite sex in every single state. So let's take the politics out of this and talk about how laws that treat everyone equally (every person in this country is legally allowed to marry a consenting adult of the opposite sex) can be viewed as discriminatory? Is this really about love? Or financial benefits? Because the law doesn't care about love, it's irrelevant to marriage, and we can certainly pass laws bestowing the same financial benefits that married couples receive to non-married couples without changing the definition of marriage itself.
Pure politics. President Obama is a joke.
Its reasonable for the president to believe the christian bias against gay.s that a marriage is only for a man and a woman, BUT he's the president and he swore on the bible that he would uphold and defend the constitution which says all men (mankind) are created equal. Any law that prevents a U.S.Citizen from marrying the person they wish to marry is clearley Unconstitutional,
Simply? That's probably an oversimplification of what happened. Simply speaking it's all about equality when it comes down to human rights. Human rights trumps everything else.
I'm less cynical about it than you seem to be. He wanted to "un-closet" his support for marriage equality, he and his team assessed the timing, and he did it. Yes the timing was calculated but I do not believe the support is. I think he had to closet it in order to get elected in the first place – there was so much stoked fear of Obama The Unknown (and possible Radical Leftist) back in 2008. On the upside, surely today's news puts to rest the rumors that Obama is a practicing Muslim?
To some, civil rights issues will always seem "less important than." To uncaring majorities, the claims of minorities seem just so much bellyaching. It all depends where you're standing. But to be belittled, bullied, pathologized and disenfranchised is important to a American minority. If politics have to be pulled in, so be it.
Whenever Civil Rights are forwarded let's take it – politics or not.
Isn't it funny how Republicans are so scared of Shari'a law coming to the US to control us, but on the same side they want to dictate their Christian doctrines to control us? I thought we were the land of the free where all men are created equal. However on the same note Note Carolina now says in it's Constitution "You can marry your cousin as long as you're not gay." And isnt there someting in the US Constitution where it states we have "Freedom of Religion"? Maybe I read it wrong in school.
Does it matter why? The important thing is that he did the right thing. I don't care what his motives are.
I don't see how it can be for political gain since he likely already had a majority of LGBT votes locked up. Can't imagine too many of them voting for a GOP candidate.
Jack, this can't possibly be about politics, unless his intent is to make losing the election a priority. I applaud his courage and agree with his stance but the fact is that the politics of it – especially considering the make-up of people who actually vote, not just people who answer polls – leads me to believe he's doing this not for political reasons but because he'd rather lose being right than win being on the wrong side of this issue. Make no mistake, though: this is NOT going to help him win in November.
Maybe. But so what? He's doing the right thing. I don't care if it's for the wrong reason.
It's hard to call it a move for political gain when many will vote against Obama simply based on his stance on gay marriage. This is a religiously charged issue which has no place in politics, and an area in which the Republican Party has repeatedly fallen behind the times. The legalization of gay marriage will not effect those who oppose it any more than the legalization of interracial marriage, or the right of all Americans to practice the religion of their choice. The argument has such strong religious ties, that gay marriage should have been legalized long ago just to solidify the separation of church and state. I applaud Obama for standing up for the rights of many LGBT Americans.
Mr. Cafferty, you sound like a right wing nut case in your comment on gay marriage.
Its not Gay rights, it's not Lesbian Rights & it's not States rights!! IT'S CIVIL RIGHTS!
This is a democracy, all tax paying citizens have a right to their civil rights! You are still free to have your own religious beliefs Jack, however narrow they are, they are yours. Civil rights belong to all Americans!
Political gain? If anything this will cost the President crucial swing votes and quite possibly the election. The President has nothing to gain from endorsing same-sex marriage other than being on the right side of history.
Are you really stating that equal rights is not a real issue? I think CNN should think think again about letting you represent their network!
Of course Pres. Obama is doing it for support! He had to jump on the bandwagon after VP Biden made his statement. Honestly, I like Romney. At least he spoke HONESTLY about what he believed!
It is really shocking that one day we may have a gay President of the United States? Imagine, a Male President who is gay – which makes the first lady – also a man? Shocking! Same thing, imagine a Lesbian President? We are getting near and near to the "End of the World"!
This doesn't make sense as a political move as some assert. This has more potential to galvanize the conservative vote and sway independents to the Republican ticket than it has to bring out the ultra liberal vote for Obama.
This just shows me finally that the president REALLY thinks that he could possibly lose the next election. What a blunder to take this stance so hastily, regardless of what side of the aisle you lean.
Sorry, Jack, but civil rights aren't a "wedge issue." If the Federal gov't can't ensure that all citizens have basic equal protection under the law, the all the rest is for naught. Regardless of whether POTUS was painted into a corner by VPOTUS's off-the-cuff remark, the fact that the administration is apparently going to work to ensure equal right for all Americans is pretty noteworthy.
Wow the president stands up for freedom and justice for all! IMPEACH HIM! Are you kidding? The country is in the toilet thanks to 8 years of Bush and the next president hasn't solved it all in 3 years. Horrible. Finally an American President is standing up for what is right and it's about time!
Hey Jack,
You just got paid to sit there and complain about what the president did at 3pm today. Pot calling the kettle black much?
Jess,
Burnsville, MN
The fact that marriage equality isn't an every day "right" which it certainly should be, I have to disagree with you that this isn't any important issue. It may be a social issue but it ranks right up there with the economy and job creation on my list. If upholding the U.S. Constitution isn't important, then I don't know what else is.
Mr. Cafferty, I was instantly offended upon hearing your unprofessional minimization of civil and human rights on national television. Think what you want about the President, but don't use your bully pulpit to ridicule those who continue to live without equal protection. Shame on you.
Unless I'm mistaken, Obama has shown support for same-sex couples to marry since day one despite his own beliefs. Whatever his own ideas on same-sex marriage may be, he's making the right choice to support it since that is the popular opinion of Democrats. It's not about what he wants, it's about what the people want
This would not help him politically, look at the vote North Carolina. The president did this because he is saying doing the right thing matters more than politics.
Jack,
How dare you call the issue of gay marriage unimportant and not a "real issue." You are so out of touch because for many Americans, this IS A REAL ISSUE. I argue that there are other issues that are of importance for our country to resolve, but can we celebrate one victory at a time?
Of course the country isn't supposed to come to a screeching halt, he was asked a question, he answered it, move on! You guys are the ones making such a big deal about it. I applaud the fact that he is asserting his personal opinion on this civil rights issue, it may even cost him votes so I think that lends itself to the fact that it is pure and selfless! Bravo Mr. President!!!
President Obama has always been openly supportive of the gay community so I'm not particularly surprised that he finally decided to endorse gay marriage. As for it being a political move, he kind of already had the homosexual vote so I don't understand why anyone would consider this "pandering" O_o
Would make absolutely no sense, if he's using it for politically it may actually backfire; his key voting block the african Americans are more against Same-sex marriage then they are for it, and many voters in key swing states are practically on the fence at this issue. If this is all for political gain, it's one hell of a gamble that may or may not kill his re-election bid.
No, he is not simply using gay marriage for political gain! This is about equality and civil rights. It may not seem important to you, but to those who have to live every day feeling like 2nd class citizens because they are forbidden from marrying, it is a big deal.
The important question to ask is when did constitutional amendments begin discriminating against people as opposed to providing additional clarification of freedom. Prohibition tried and failed long ago. It's about time that our federal government stood up and took a stand for civil rights.
It must be easy to view this as pandering if you are NOT one of the 1000s of couples like me who have paid $1000s in legal fees and other filings just to get close to the same rights married couples have. I "married" my husband 6 months ago, and I noticed, the world didn't end. Frankly, this is a black-and-white issue: ether you believe in the very first words of this nation's very first official document - We believe that all men are created equal - or you do not.
We have no right to tell someone whom to love.
Does it matter? Yes. Very. Every human deserves the right to marriage and the longer he waits on the issue the worse for the hundreds of thousands of voters he will lose due to his inability to act. Although I would like it if both parties could avoid side issues and focus on the main problems like our debt or our anemic GDP growth.
Jack – apparently since you've never been marginalized simply for being who you are you lack perspective on the impact that this has on us GLBT individuals who have spent our lives struggling for equal rights...how could you miss the impact and reduce this to a soundbite about the President pandering or simply using a "wedge" issue for political gain. Frankly I'm disappointed – civil rights being described as a wedge issue is an insult to every woman, person of color and GLBT individual who has ever had to wonder "If not now, then when?"
By calling this a state issue, President Obama didn't take a step in the right direction. Instead, he decided to sit down and waive a rainbow flag from the sidelines. How's that for leadership!
Patrick C.
Chicago, IL
He is telling the truth and this is a first time thing for him.Jack are you shocked??
Azusa, California
Although I am Catholic, I personally believe that gay men and women should be able to marry because everybody should be able to marry whoever they truly love.If Obama realy believed what he was saying, he wouls have said it before , not in the election year. Also, he should be focusing on real problems, such as unemployment and the economy.
By you talking about Gay marriage you are playing right into the right-wing agenda. It's all about smokescreens, they have nothing else positive, so they try to distract from the issues we all should be talking about – jobs, economy, and equality for all Americans.
The President folded under pressure. Let's find a President, if he or she is out there, with the balls (bluntly speaking) to stand up to pressure and not fold just to get re-elected. My, my, what's become of our leaders?
Of course not. If anything it could cause him more difficulties than help his position in most of those states that have obviously taken a stand against it. The last thing he needed to do politically was give the GOP more ammunition to fuel their ideological bias and partisanism.
President Obama has shown that he is a true progressive leader and a leader for all Americans, not just the select wealthy and special interests that Romney runs to. As a proud gay American, I am ashamed by the separation and discrimination the fight for equality has caused. It has affected employment, opportunity and more for many and it is not a focus of re-election for President Obama and only the media will create this type of situation. I stand firmly with the amazing leadership Obama offers and look forward to 4 more years!
Gain? are you kidding me? Today is the day Obama lost the election. Blacks, Hispanics, blue collar, catholic and southern voters just jumped ship. Worst political misstep since...ever.
Jack, doesn't seem like you 'passed' on the subject to me. However, since you asked me, I think he simply knew he had to get off the fence prior to this election. What bother's me more, is many of my African American friends/family refuse to believe he can truly have such an opinion. I supported and support President Obama but I do not taking him as the Great Savior that many, especially in the African Community take him to be. If he say's it, I believe him. Now that he said it, let's pray for him!
It would have been better POLITICALLY if he had kept his same position. It is a sign of leadership that he decided to fully support Gay Marriage at this time. Some people might criticize his timing but "timing" is something that will be clear as far as gay rights under a Republican Administration: NEVER. I notice that Cafferty went on to list the economic problems that Obama still has on his plate but be clear on the facts: Obama's administration has been an improvement in every way over his predecessor.
No I don't think so. I will be a first time voter this year at first I didn't think he would be a good president but in 2012 I will be voting for President Obama this time. Even if it is a political move so be it because republicans also pick certain things to use for political gain. Yes the economy is hurting but again it is coming back Obama is trying to do all he can with a congress that has said they will try to stop him on everything. All I have to say is that if it is for political gain let it be because republicans do the exact same thing, and let it play out.
Anyone that doesn't believe this is politically motivated has their head in the sand. I support gay marriage and gay rights but the President has repeatedly refused to take a formal position on tough issues like abortion and gay marriage. Now all of a sudden he does? That's political pandering. I am glad he took a position, but pardon me if I'm a little cynical about his motives.
Jack, I assume you are straight. I assume you are married. If you are not married, you have the legal right to be married in America. Millions of gay Americans - who pay taxes, who are vibrant members of their community, who contribute to society in extraordinary ways, and who have been with their partners for years - or decades - do not have that right. That same right you have. So for us, it's no wedge issue. It's real life. I am in awe of President Obama's announcement today. It's better late than never, and he has shown fantastic bravery by making it. Thank you Mr. President.
Yes, this is a clear attempt to gain political clout. Four years ago, everybody (including Republicans) knew that McCain was not going to win against a popular, young candidate like Obama. Now, with elections coming up in what will hopefully be a close and exciting race, Pres. Obama finds himself trying to collect all the votes he can. If he had said this earlier, it might not been seen as political pandering. Unfortunately, he waited too long and appears to be simply playing a political card.
Of course it's for political gain and Jack, I'm with you!!! I could care less about this issue. The President seems to take on issues like this rather than the ones that affect most Americans. It's really troubling, but it does expose that the President is weak and a coward too.
Jack! For political gain? I think not...I am in a long-term relationship and my partner just said to me "oh wow...maybe he really doesn't want to get re-elected after all!" We call that gallows humor over here... He will catch a lot of flack for this but more power to him. Equal rights for ALL Americans.
As a mother of a gay man, I think it's about time that POTUS came out and now supports same sex marriage. Have you forgotten the 4th Amendment - equal protection under the law? Have you forgotten the tenats of our constitution, bill of rights and revolution - that ALL men are created equal and that ALL in these United States of America are entitled to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness? I don't care why Obama has finally grown a pair! I just care that he sees what you and the rest of the American Taliban and their candidate Romney the Robot will never see - that the LGBT community are entitled to the same rights and liberties and pursuits of happiness that heterosexual Americans are entitled to and this recognition of their right to marry, to have and raise families, to have jobs, etc. What's the matter, Cafferty, do you want to impose the GOP/TEA's version of American aparteid and Facism? What are YOU really for?
The last paragraph of your "Is President Obama simply using gay marriage for political gain?" article detailing how we should be talking about the big issues instead was just precious.
Those who are close minded enough to be against gay marriage already were not going to vote for Obama. Homosexuals already supported Obama, along with the youngsters. frankly I believe Obama gained nothing, nor did he lose anything. What he did do was subliminaly support evolution. four years ago he defined marriage as between a man and a woman. After some time, he supports gay marriage. see what he did there?
Ah, come on, Jack! Barack Obama had the gay vote in his picket. So stating he thinks gay marriage is acceptable is no big whoop! As far as unemployment, and the economy failing, look to the do nothing Republicans! They have destroyed the republic! A million dollars would not be enough money for me to vote for a Republican! They are beneath contempt. I have never voted for the good ole party, & I never will!
Of course, and there is no surprise that Mr. Obama does anything for political reasons. He wants the youth vote that he is otherwise losing because of the high unemployment. He is throwing young people and liberals a bone. This is also a distraction from discussing the major economic issues.
No. It is politically risky no matter how re responds on this subject, and he has decided to respond on the right side of history.
Our world, our country, our state, our town, our community is ALL a work in progress. We are evolving...still...and may we never stop! This is called progress. This is called life. This is called the pursuit of happiness.
Jack, maybe you don't see this as a "real issue" because it doesn't effect you. If you got a call saying your wife was in the hospital and you were not allowed to go see her perhaps you would care less about gas prices or the national debt?
Jack, your conservative bias is blatantly evident. Are you auditioning for Fox News? Why can't you put the question out there without insulting Obama? You are so biased.
No, it is not a political play. It can only hurt him. And, you are one of only a few cnn personalities that I respect. But losing my respect. Why in the hell is this important? It reminds me of when I was a kid and everyone was worried about communism. Wasn't a real threat. Neither is gay marriage. Let them have their partners and forget about it. The world is not going to turn gay.
Everything is a political move. Just as Romney avidly opposing gay marriage is a political move. But as far as Obama being accused of making this a larger issue than the economy is simply naive.
Tomorrow, or next week, he'll be back talking about the economy and jobs. This was Obama reiterating his position on equal rights for all peoples and solidifying his leadership and character.
I don't think so. This might actually hurt him. I feel that the president is very brave to declare how he feels about the subject without concern about the consequences. What's right is right! I admire him for this!
"Real Issues", Jack? So glad that your heterosexual privilege allows you to have such a naive view of the issue of Marriage Equality and equal civil rights for all. For my family.... my same-sex partner of TEN years, and our two daughters... the "issue" of equal protection under the law is VERY REAL!!! How insensitive, and how ignorant.
The way I see it in respect to the political gain aspect, many of us in the gay community probably weren't voting for Romney in November. So, not much for political gain in my opinion. I will say, it took courage on his part to come out and say how he felt on the issue of same sex marriage. Actions do speak louder than words, but you need to crawl before you can walk. It's a step in the right direction towards equality.
Political gain? Gain? This position could cost him the election and as a gay man I know this. This was brave and history making and it deserves to be covered by the media. I've been tearing up all day watching the coverage. This is huge.
What incredible hypocrisy! First you berate the President for addressing this issue rather than other, more important matters, then you ask this question? Generally I believe your indignation Jack, but on this one you come off very lame.
NO he is not. Discovering the results of last night's election, he probably realizes enough is enough! Thank you Mr. President for taking a stand when so many of our family, friends and neighbors did not. I applaud you for your courage.
Are you kidding? This could very well cost him the election. Its a civil rights issue and yes, its important. What's his priority...winning the election or standing on the side of right? I'd say we now know.
Redding, CA
No Jack, I think the President has been sympathetic to the gay marriage issue, all along. However, I think the public announcement by Biden put Obama in a corner. Obama simply weighed his options and decided he would have to appear to be at least as decisive as his Vice President.
I really don't know why I even listen to cable news anymore. I guess I am dumb for leaving it on while I work. The logic you employ is both torturous and self serving. Ever since Joe Biden made that statement last week, the 24-hr news cycle has been pounding this, "What is Obama's position? What is Obama's position? What is Obama's position?" So Obama gives his position and now you are asking "Why is Obama talking about gay marriage – is he pandering?" You asked for an answer, you got one, then you throw it in Obama's face. Here's a real question for you Jack, "Why is it okay to act in a prejudicial and hateful manner to a minority group in this country as long as the hate is based on religious doctrine?" If you substitute the word "black" for "gay" and say "Religion is against black-white marriage" wouldn't you see how prejudicial and wrong this whole issue really is?
I don't think so. Prez Obama has already gained the gay vote from succeeding with the DADT repeal and Republicans will be hard pressed to find anyone gay to vote for them this election. Anything Obama does involving the gay community is just icing.
Jack, I think you're lead-up to posing this question was flawed in 2 major ways. First, you suggested this is a non-issue compared with the debt crisis, but I suspect there is a large contingent of human beings to whom this matters just as much as the national debt because of the dramatic way it affects their lives each and every day. Secondly, it makes little sense to me to suggest that President Obama is simply pandering to the gay and lesbian community with this declaration because he potentially stands to alienate a portion of his base that is much larger than the gay and lesbian community. Jack, you simply didn't prepare your comments on this well at all.
No. It is politically risky no matter how he responds on this subject, and he has decided to respond on the right side of history.
Jack....here you go again....."BREAKING NEWS".... you just can't seem to see what part you and the media play then have the nerve to take another 'shot' at your President. Have you ever given him credit for avoiding some social issues the past 3 years while trying to re build Bush's damage and offering equal health care to all Americans? More media assassination as I see it ...... getting ready for Romney next year? Enemies of America must love your attacks!!!
President Obama is not saying this for political gain, it would have been better for him if this had not become an issue at all. As despicable it is that in the "land of the free" we still have no equal liberties for the LGBT community because of religion. The initial reluctance of President Obama on this issue was because Obama does not want to loose independent christian (states like Indiana) voters who might not vote for him because of his stance on Gay Marriage.
How exactly does taking an unpopular position on a controversial issue suit his political purpose to get re-elected? The people who are excited today to hear their president supporting civil rights for all Americans would never imagine voting for GOP2012, a party that is regressing into narrow-minded irrationality. Today's announcement could very well cost Obama more than he gains, so I'm more inclined to call this political courage than political calculation.
-Daniel
New York, NY
Jack, Jack, calm down. He certainly didn't say this for political gain. Too many disagree in an already close election. It will probably hurt him. I agree with him but would have been just as happy if he had waited until he was elected to say it. Yes, there are many problems needing attention but no matter how you slice it or dice it, TODAY it is news. Pretty big news. Never was intended to be the answer to world peace and prosperity.
President O'bama didn't ask for this "mess". David Gregory asked the Vice President the question. Now all (including CNN) are going bonkers over this "great story". You are right – this is ridiculous, but in 2012 the fact we still have to
listen to all the bigotry and animosity towards the first African-American President – don't blame him. It is called
leadership – there is nothing to gain so-called panderinig to the gay left. What is supposed to do – call for a
Constitutional Amendment so as to pander to the open minded right?
Since when have the rights of mankind not been an important issue in this country? It is my belief that human rights and equality should always trump economic or political concerns. It comes down to the fundamental reasons for creating a democratic republic, that we all have an equal voice regardless of race, creed, religion or yes even sexuality. It was the right thing to do.
Jack, this is another disgusting ploy by Obama to get re-elected. Under the Democrats and Obama, America continues to spiral downward into the abyss of weak government, diminished morals, and non-existing leadership. Please vote this cancer out of office in November.
Seems like President Obama has more to loose than gain. He already had my vote but now I proudly vote. President Obama is a fearless leader with great strength to do the right thing & speak up for equality. What a great day!
Your outrageous suggestion that the President is pandering to a powerful interest group is laughable. He will certainly lose more votes than he'll gain. Give the President credit fit taking the higher road here. He is standing up for the rights of a"minority. That is always worthy of praise. The man is a leader with a heart. God bless this man. We're lucky to have him as President.
Geez, Jack, if gay marriage is such an unimportant, wedge issue to you, then why are you "wasting" our time with this question?! Moreover, how many extra votes do you realistically think he'll gain by such a controversial issue? Negligible. President Obama has displayed an enormous amount of courage and guts taking a stand on such an important and life-changing issue. Human rights for all, Jack, whether in an election season or not.
It took guts to say that knowing that he may loose his job for it, and no direspect Cafferty, but for you to say it is unimportant is short sighted. Perhaps it is not important to you, but it is as real a problem as the economy and unemployment to others. Imagine putting aside something as foundational as a debate on slavery or women's suffrage for things that are "more important".
I don't believe it is for political gain. He thought the issue over and voiced his position as all americans have the right to do. In my opinion it was an example of profiles in courage.
Jack: Geez how long does it take to get with change...if you want to pay off the US trillion dollar debt stop building things like the USS Ronald Reagan that costs too much and will be used to fight what enemy... Hating glbt civil rights and lionizing religious extremism makes the US sound just like countries like Afghanistan and Iran. The pulpit is not the ballot box and for millions of America's today's news was landmark. What's next the Republican states opt to repeal civil rights for blacks or women...stop the hate and ensure the equality.
What is the last work Jesus Christ had to say about this (actually within the context of divorce)? "Let anyone accept this who can."
I believe civil rights are still an important issue. Sure, Obama should focus more on the economy, but he also needed to clarify his "evolving" on this issue, and I for one am glad he did! My husband and I had not donated to a political campaign this year, but today we did. I say "Thank you Mr. President" for taking a stand for full equality for all citizens! BTW, Jack, it seemed to me that your report was "pandering" and trying to inflame those in opposition to equality. B. Gagnon in Illinois
Well Jack, I'm glad to know that my civil rights are little more than a wedge issue for you. Gay rights have always been used as a "wedge issue" by the Republicans. Sorryto disagree, I just happen to feel that my 32 year relationship is deserving of at least the same recognition as Newt Gingrichs 3rd (it is the 3rd isn't it) marriage. Thank you for trivializing my relationship.
Hello Jack, is there anybody at home in your head or your heart? If you had a brother and twenty or thirty friends, (at least) who have needlessly died brutal deaths from AIDS, you would not call 'gay marriage' – union really – a wedge issue. The only wedge is between your ears. Scott Utley LA CA USA
Try to have a little wider and longer perspective, Jack. You would've probably said the same things watching Abraham Lincoln's evolving position on slavery. Some issues transcend the necessary political calculations of the day, although you would never know that from watching CNN.
Maybe the President was appalled after yesterday's vote in NC! It sure was shameful by any human rights standards!
As a 65 year old gay man and a U.S. citizen, who a mere 40 years ago would have been arrested for putting his hand on another mans thigh will sitting on a bar stool, I will take my civil rights where I can get them.
Who cares why? I say – FINALLY! But, alas in my America it can still be said – "it is better to be black than gay".
Listen to the Senator elect from Indiana. It's not the economy stupid – it's good versus evil – thump that Bible!!!!
The real question is, does Jack Cafferty take every opportunity to unfairly and dishonestly attack President Obama by assuming he knows the thoughts in Obama's mind, putting words in Obama's mouth, and divining Obama's intent and motive behind his every action? The answer is "YES"! Gee, Jack, did you ever stop to think that maybe it really has just taken until now for Obama to make up his mind as whether or not he can support gay marriage? I'm 68, and it took me about 65 years to decide I approve of it. Equal rights to all citizens MEANS equal rights to ALL, not just the folks we "approve" of.
An answer of yes to your question is the most sinister interpretation of Obama's statement about gay marraige within the entire range of motivations between a yes answer and the motivation of revealing what he truly believes on the subject regardless of the political consequences. Frankly, I find it refreshing to hear of his views BEFORE an election rather than after it. His pronouncement will further expose the homophobic nature of many people who call themselves Christian.
President Obama is courting the "Gay Vote" for political gain. Yes – the States determine the rules here - NOT the President.
I would expect such an obviously prejudiced political rant from FAUX News. NOT CNN. Shame on you, Jack!
Las Vegas (69yo straight christian)
No. He has just finally realized that the time has come.
Come on Jack!
After Biden's remarks (and Duncan's), the media was frothing at the mouth to hear Obama's stance on gay marriage. Now you go and frame it as political gain? Give me a break! People were eager to know how he felt (about gay marriage) and he tells you... what is the media going to do next? Say he came out to support gay marriage for the money? The guy is being honest. I doubt Obama is that perverted to use the same-sex marriage debate for political gain. Homosexuals have a big fight ahead of them and Obama is stepping up to bat for them.
This is clearly an appeal to college age voters – voters with limited experience with marriage and family and voters that have limited understanding of the roles of federal government v state government – the voters that overwhelmingly put President Obama in office and who are disenchanted with him now because of broken promises, high unemployment, and the high cost of education.
Marriage has always been a religious institution and supported by a civilly recognized bonds (civil union). There has always been two uses of the term "marriage" the civil and the religious. The federal government doesn't have the authority to define either. So, why should we care what the US president thinks? This is not news – its a distraction from the major issue of this election... to quote a past successful politician, "Its about the economy stupid"
of course he is useing anything he can to put the gays and women and minoritys and the welfare crowd back on his bandwagon.after reports last week that the gays have slowed down on political donations and not coming out to his rallys
he pandered to his base and came out to draw more people back to his side. He needs every vote he can get ans his hope and change has went down the drain.
Absolutely!! If this is a state issue, why doesn't the federal government stay out of it? Thank Joe Biden for Obama completing his evolution!
I just wish he'd pander to people who want to marry a job. It's a growing constituency.
Tom, Rochester, NY
what is your problem Jack? u never read my commend and i don't care if you read this or not, but i will post it anyway. what is the problem with this president? Just like you said Jack, he has been dodging this question time and again but reporters keep bringing it up. If he didn't they will complaint, now that he had answered to clear the way to tackle important things, the same reporters are criticizing that he wants to use it for political gains....Did he request the report to bring the question up?
Jack, Its no coincidence the President decided to come out with his thoughts on gay marriage just months before the election. Its simply an attempt to grab votes from the opinionated under-informed youth of this country. At 24, I don't disagree with his opinion, but this is the last issue I am concerned with today. Staggering debt, unemployment, wars, financial instability... choose wisely next time Mr. President.
Let's see, your network just told me that the nation is split about 50/50 on whether or not they agree with same sex marriage. I'm not a math genius but, given that fact, how does the president's endorsement of same sex marraige give him political gain? What support he might acquire from some, he is in danger of losing from others. I believe he is just taking an opportunity to state what he genuinely believes about this issue. BTW Jack, did you miss your nap today?...you sound a little on the cranky side, bro.
What a ridiculous question! In light of the vote in North Carolina, and the hate-filled rhetoric coming from Christian pulpits, he would be foolish to issue his agreement with gay marriage. I believe he could no longer stomach what is happening to our LGBT citizens. His decision came from the heart and his basic intelligence. If folks have issues with gay marriage perhaps first they should pass laws against DIVORCE, which damages and leaves strewn along the wayside – children and spouses.
This is a courageous stand, applauded by all of us who want civil rights for all., BTW, I'm neither young, gay or single, just an old married lady that believes that love is love is love.
Any self respecting politician would use gay rights for his or her political gain. Let's get to the core of things. Aging population is dying off. Older people value traditional marriage. Younger people are coming out as LGBT left and right even while in high school. Many people aged 35 or under would vote for a candidate who supports gay marriage because odds are they have a relative who is gay, a friend who is gay or they are gay or they simply do not want to hear about this problem any longer or more importantly they see that ALL people have equal rights. Traditionally speaking older people vote a lot more than younger people so for political purposes younger crowd is untapped reserve. Think of young voters as next saudi arabia of strategic power reserves. Getting them on board is easy. Most of them are already on board and can't wait to hit the poles. Thankfully dynamic is changing and we can all move FORWARD.
Of course he is Jack. But waht people don't realize is it is a State issue, That is until the Dems try and make it a Federal issue to take away another State right. Nxt question when will Oboma come out of the closet?
George, VA
Not Political at this point he had to come out and say it, I love that he is for equal right for all Americans!!! That’s the Pres. I support 1000%
It is easy for straight America to call this an unimportant issue. Tell that to the gay man whose non- US citizen's partner is being deported or the lesbian who cannot visit her dying partner in the hospital. This is a major political issue for some US citizen. President Obama is showing support for all American citizens, unlike Romney who is willing to label a portion of the US population as second class citizens. If it mobilizes his base, so be it. It is the right thing to do.
OMG, you don't say. It's gay marriage today. It was "I" took out USB. I'm for women's health issues. I'm for free College education. When was he or is he ever going to address the economy, the housing market and oh yes that insignifticant issue of JOBS. This man is so Narcissitic he can't see beyond his own agenda and imagined populatiry.
Jack, I guess you wouldn't know anything about being a citizen denied the simple rights other citizens take for granted. You also woulnd't know anything about having your president come out in supprot of a very controversial issue at a time when many polititcians would keep quiet. You're a straight, white, heterosexual, so you DON'T know anything about it. To claim it is only for political gain is ridiculous. He didn't change his support the way that Romney did concerning gay rights. He only expanded his existing support, an extremely brave thing to do at this point. So think again, Mr Cafferty!
Jack, I think your rant was homophobic and ignores the fact that for millions of Americans, marriage equality is a very real issue. It's the civil rights struggle of our time, and to say that the president is using such a 'wedge' issue for political gain is to suggest that marriage equality is somehow an inferior issue. What if John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson ignored the civil rights movement in favor of focusing on more 'real', non-'wedge' issues such as the economy and an increasingly partisan government? It's an embarrassment to suggest that by standing up for LGBT people, the president is ignoring 'real' issues. And how can the president use this endorsement for political gain? He already had the support of many LGBT people. If anything, it alienated independents. Lastly, with North Carolina voters voting for the amendment yesterday, if the president is truly using marriage equality for political gain, why would he do so in the midst of voters in a swing state denouncing the very issue? If anything, it's a noble, courageous act, and it's about time.
Of course it's a political maneuver, but the most important aspect of his maneuver was in the fine details, and those fine details could harm him in the long run. Obama's gay marriage position is merely portrayed as a personal preference, but would choose to leave the decisions up to the states. This diffuses any possibility that Obama would have to face any responsibility for holding a tough position (making him look like an indecisive fool), whereas Romney takes a more definite position and therefore looks like the stronger candidate.
Jack. This isn't a "wedge issue" if you are one of the millions of tax paying americans who are denied basic rights. This isn't political opportunism at all. In fact, the President put his reputation on line in what is by all accounts going to be a very close election. Sitting on the fence would have been the safe option.
So the President shouldn't talk about anything but the major problems of the country (jobs, deficit, economy) until they are solved???? Just because he is addressing the subject of gay marriage doesn't mean he's not doing everything he can about the other problems, which are going to take time to solve. In my opinion, your cynical dismissive attitude SUCKS! My daughter and her wonderful partner of 10 years deserve to have all the rights of any couple. Apparently, you think being gay is a choice...ask yourself when you "decided" not to be gay. you need to go over to fox, where they love that kind of negativity. Charleston, South Carolina
I do not believe our President has ever opposed gay marriage; during the 2008 election he said he supported full rights for gay people except for full marriage, then once elected dodged any questions on gay marriage by saying his views are 'evolving'. Obama has always supported gay rights and has simply hidden his views until a good moment to reveal them, and frankly its about time he took a stand on the issue. While Obama choose to time the moment he reveals his views, he is still utterly sincere in his support for full rights for the LGBT community. The President who killed DADT deserves some trust from supporters of gay rights, and ultimately it was foolish to ever believe he was truly against gay marriage.
As a mother of a gay son, I applaud the president for "coming out" with his true views. I can't blame him for being hesitant to fully disclose his support before now as it could hurt chances to serve our nation. Sadly, all the politicians have to play the game to some extent. I understand how this issue may seem
Of course he is. Every politician is using gay marriage and every other issue for political gain. A politician who really has the people's interests at heart is one who either doesn't get elected or ends up getting voted out of office! Politician's can't stay in office if they do what's right, they have to do what's best for themselves!
Thank you for the very Rooney-esque commentary. Being a gay American, I appreciate that the president's view on the civil rights issue has evolved as so many people in my personal life evolved. People change, so should you.
No, I don't think he is but it does not matter to me if he is or not for it gay marrige. Who am I to tell someone else on how to live there life.
The suggestion that this declaration on the President's part is simply pandering to the gay and lesbian community is senseless because President Obama stands to alienate an even larger portion of his base by bravely making known his stance on this issue. If he wanted to do something for political gain, he'd have gone the other route. If this single issue costs the President re-election, it won't be because he's wrong.
That's not a very smart political Strategy, if that's the case! He'll simply fail & be ousted out of office. I must say that America is dying, period! Now our leader supports same-sex marriage? Supring? I think not! Our nation is gradually leaning towards "a nation under Satan, with divisible with slavery & injustice for all"...We need real leaders to interceed on our behalf and not for "political gain"!
First of all, Jack, this is an important issue for many Americans, so don't discount that. Secondly, how could he be doing this for political gain when just about everyone seems to think that this will hurt him more than help him? Call me a political cynic, but I was actually disappointed that he did this today. I am someone who wants same-sex marriage to be legal. I had no doubt in my mind that President Obama agreed with me, but hoped he would wait to say so until Jan. 21, 2013. I was going to vote for him anyway, and I still am going to vote for him. No gain. I think this puts many more states in play than people are already talking about...I'm afraid he could have lost the election today. But as Paul Begala said, he look relieved to say it. The truth shall set you free!
Is it pandering when we have a national day of prayer to what Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or God, three alleged beings that have not s a scrap of proof. How does this constant pandering to the religious right help the economy? Hmmm unless you want to address the real issue of why these mega-churches don't bay taxes, while making millions. That Jack is pandering ...
For political gain? Are you kidding? If anything, it will HURT him politically to come out in support of same-sex marriage. He didn't need to pander to gays and lesbians...he already has our votes. If anyone is pandering, it is Romney, who in the 90's thought same-sex unions were fine, but now that he's running for President, it's "one man, one woman only". He is pandering to the, how shall I say it, "under-educated" voters. Unfortunately, they don't even realize they are being pandered to.
Obama has been an advocate for the LGBT community through the entirety of his time in office. This is not a new view for Obama and has been carried out during his term in office.
Why didn't you bring the repeal of Don't ask don't don't tell during his term? Or that he was the first president to appoint a transexual to their cabinet? Or having formally stopped his support for the defense of marriage act since 2011?
Mr Cafferty, you are to cynical to know the difference between pandering and giving a damn.
I resent this notion being fostered by pollsters that "younger" and "more educated" people are more accepting towards same-sex marriage. The unintended consequence is that it casts people not in favour as "archaic" and "un-educated". That's wrong! Many young and educated people like me are for the traditional definition of marriage.
What issue could be more important than the civil rights of every American? Civil rights directly affect the economy, consumer confidence, voter confidence, education as a national security issue, congress running smoothly, everything. It is hard to imagine an issue that civil rights doesn't directly affect in this our land of the free. Pressured he may have been, but what he said was still courageous and historical and when our grandchildren read about it in school that is what will be remembered.
Who cares? It is the right thing to do. Stop being a politician Jack and stop acting indignant because the President is asked to express an opinion. His opinion on gay marriage has nothing to do with the debt, unemployment nor an ineffectual congress. Why do you equate these?
I doubt President Obama is doing this solely for political gain because it is a huge risk of unknown ramifications. What I do know is that this a huge day for any American who believes in true equality and human rights. Thank you, President Obama!!
With all due respect Jack, you're embarrassing yourself. It's assumed that only 2 percent of the US population identifies as LGBT. And though more liberal than most groups, that 2 percent has NEVR voted in lockstep. So what huge voting block do you think Obama is pandering to? Conversely, the phrase "political gain" would assume he'd add more votes in the places he needs them, like North Carolina. I wonder what they think of gay marriage, Jack?
Gay Marriage” isn’t a “Real Issue”. What an ass. Mr. Cafferty says that there are more pertinent issues that need to be addressed. Well, Mr. Cafferty, if this affected you in the way it affects my family, and me I am certain you would think it was a “Real Issue”! People say the President needs to address the “Real” issues all the time, well has anyone ever heard of “Multi-tasking”? Can the President address several issues at the same time? Come on, give me a break, of course he can. He can get our troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq, fix the deficit, work on the health care issues and put people back to work and complete an issue that has plagued this country since its inception, Equality for All. He can do all of these things and get it right and they are all “Real Issues!”
Honestly, I don't see how this could be true. Many Americans are split on this issue and it's not an issue that can guarantee re-election. North Carolina just banned same-sex marriage in their constitution. If someone says they're for same-sex marriage, I truly believe their answer is genuine because it takes a lot of courage to take a stand for such a delicate issue. Hopefully, President Obama continues in his fight for the equal treatment of LGBT Americans.
Do you ever get tired of bashing the President? I could care less whether or not gay people get married and no one else should care. It's not their business. And please tell me what were you doing while the previous President was getting us into two wars,adding trillions of dollars to the debt and crashing the economy?
I do not beleive this is a political move. This has been an issue for quite some time, for others to insidiously entrap the president into this conversation is out right wrong. As an African American, we are thoroughly taught to abstain from this and to engage in tradtional marraige between a man and a woman. So therefore although I may disagree with the President on this issue, I believe he deserves another term in the whitehouse only because congress has failed the country and it is only going to get worse now that indiana has voted out a bipartisan republican. #AlwaysTeamObama
Jack,
I believe that the issue of gay marriage has been brought up by Biden and Obama at this point to send the right wing pundits and politicians, the tea party mongers, into a frenzy. By suddenly focusing their attention on these social issues Obama's strategists hope to keep the right from harping on Obama's inability to get the economy to improve. Both sides know that no one is going to achieve any pie in the sky improvements in the economic sector but by playing the social issues card Obama can spin around and say that the right is obsessed with social issues. He's hoping they shout and jump up and down until they are blue in the face. He's pushing their buttons and hoping they self destruct. This is just a continuation of his approach to his political enemies – make them look stupid, bigoted and at odds with the majority of Americans.
As a mother of a gay son, I applaud the president for "coming out" with his true views. I can't blame him for being hesitant to fully disclose his support before now as it could hurt chances to serve our nation. Sadly, all the politicians have to play the game to some extent.
Of course it is. I think it will back fire on him though. He just made all Bible Beaters, Granny and the elderly clutch their chest. Seriously most of us are concerned with surviving .food on the table, jobs, and some money in our pockets. my Husband I have just been getting by for the last 5 years, I will vote for I feel who is going to help the American people with the economic problems, not for who wants to get married. Least of my worries right now.
Holy Cow! Absolutely a political move and I hope people see right through him. The economy, the jobs and people struggling everyday with health care issues. Manufacturing in America gone and we settle for this!!!!!! Please people see through this and vote differently in November.
There are two issues here, one covers those whose religion dictates their beliefs and the second is the legislative issue which covers the rights of all citizens. The president of the United States cannot cater to one segment of the population while denying another their fundamental human rights.
This is and has always been a non-issue. Each state, person, and religious group has a right to their personal opinions but the leader of the nation has to put the needs of others before his own; and I have great respect for someone who can differentiate his personal views and from his professional responsibilities.
When I told my parents I was gay they didn't exactly throw me a party to celebrate – or try to get on national television to throw their support in favor of all things gay. I'm incredibly lucky; my parents – like a lot of other parents of LGBT kids – EVOLVED. Likewise, many of my straight friends have, through discussions and first hand experience EVOLVED in their own beliefs about LGBT issues.
Isn't that what the President said – his beliefs have evolved as he's reflected and had life experiences which have helped him to arrive at his announcement today? Sure there are "more important" things that this President has to deal with. I didn't hear him say that he was taking a vacation from being President just to spend time "pandering" to LGBT's. He's arrived at this belief.....now let's all keep moving forward.
This is today's stupid question. Anything the President stands for is political.
You have to be be kidding, Jack. Obama's honesty just lost him thousands of votes. But unlike other politicians whose main goal is to survive the next election, he's a man who can't deny his principles. Who can deny that Obama has positions and the right is completely devoid of them? Predictably, Romney plays whatever tune he thinks America can dance to.
So if Obama makes a statement regarding equal rights its about politics.But when Romney changes his mind and opposes gay marriage, what do you call that? I think it is completely appropriate for the president to give his view on this subject in light of what took place in North Carolina, regardless of it being an election year or not.
I must've missed when you said "We have real issues in this country for which President Obama has been glaringly short on answers." Are you implying that civil rights, the right to marry whomever you love, is not a REAL issue? I assume you are married sir. Tell me, if someone told you you couldn't enjoy all of the comforts you share with your wife, joint taxes, death benefits, etc, what would you consider a REAL issue?
Jack,
Of course this is used for Political gain and anyone who thinks otherwise just has their heads buried in the sand. The conservatives will take hold of this issue and stumble over their tongues like Mit Romney did this afternoon, and further divide the nation by spreading ignorance and fear.
I applaud the President for taking this stand. As an American, who is also of African Descent, a person of faith and in a committed monogamous same sex relationship for almost a quarter century, it's about damn time that one of our leaders has decided to step up and LEAD!
"Pandering to the LGBT?" "Political opportunism?" Are you nuts? This will surely hurt the president in critical toss-up states like North Carolina, Indiana, Virginia, etc.. He simply took a stand for equal treatment under the law, and I admire him for his courage. If anything he was pandering to my community–which is not the LGBT community. My community is made up of fair minded people of many persuasions.
No he is not using it as a simple subject. This has been a subject for years. All he is doing is brining up a position that may be a majority based on the facts of recession. More and more women voters are breadwinners and therefore it it is becoming more popular.
Mr. Obama will say and do anything that might help him get re-elected. He thinks the American public has a short memory and forget how he fooled us the first time. He is mistaken, you can only fool us once!
Jack, of all the topics you should be disgruntled about, this isn't one of them..
You're correct that this news isn't the tipping point for the salvation of the U.S. economy. But who besides you incinuates that it was supposed to be?
Take Obama's statement for what it is. Not a political ploy to sway an election (North Carolina actually made that insinuation moot). Not a way to soften critics or to blight an oppontent. It's a high profile leader shaking off the shackles of paranoia and coming to the realization that people should treat people with respect. And many in this fine country – straight and gay alike – are thrilled to have his support.
Gay marriage talk is useless political rhetoric? Everything they say is seen through a prism of politics. If you find this rhetoric so useless, why give it airtime Jack? What some call politi-sizing statements, is exactly what the media runs with in hopes of ratings. If they spoke about ecomics everyday, you'd fall asleep and move on to the next topic- which I'm sure would be just as useles ie; Snooki's pregnancy. (I've seen you report it before)
Evolution is inevitable. Evolution is constant.
And I forgot to add, I was totally offended by your implication that the gay marriage debate is not a "serious issue" as opposed to the economy and unemployment.
Today our President took a difficult stand and stood up for the equality of all americans. Regardless of one's personal beliefs on the subject of gay marriage, every true American should be proud of their President today. Equal opportunity for all does not exclude gays. American traditional values of fairness, justice, equality, and morality require us to forfeit discrimination on all levels and embrace our fellow man.
President Obama decision was not political but a brave risk, because the majority of Americans still not confotable with the idea of same sex marriage. The condition of homosexualty is genetical as scientific studies show. People shoyld be able to be happy regrdless of their sexual orientation.
being political. You may take a pass in your cynicism but Pres Obama has impressed me with his courage.
There is unreasonable prejudice by some people towards anyone who is "different" than they are. My guess is our bi-racial President knows something about prejudical behavior. I feel he is showing the nation that he is the President of all the people and I am very proud that he has done this. Once the older generation of life-long prejudices have passed on and the younger generation who have no such thinking step into the spotlight, this will be a much better and kinder country.
Oh Lord...here we go again,...politicians use everything for gain...repubs, demos, libbies...but my goodness, Jack everyone has their own opinion on every imaginable subject on this earth...and no two people on this earth will ever agree on everything...it's called individual thinking..but one thing Mr. President said that made me think about this.....how do I or my children want to be treated?... God Bless The President for being humane about this....
Kansas.
Yes, Kansas. No this is not a political move. It's just something he had to do. Once again he shows us he has the guts to make a thoughtful decision which he thinks is right. If anything he stands to lose politically with this. This is just his personal belief on something and it should not weigh heavily on anyone's making a decision on whether or not to vote for him. There are way more important things to consider.........like does he have the guts to make a thoughtful decision which he thinks is right.
What ever the reason is its still up to the states to decide to allow it. We have bigger issue to worry about than who can marry who. I dont agree personally but still stand with him on issues to help put this country on top of that hill so folk around the world can at last look up to us again
Possibly, but more importantly I think that, up until today that is, he's been avoiding publicly announcing his opinion on the issue to prevent political hinderance. It's good to see he's finally able to voice his actual opinion on a controversial issue such as this.
Jack,
Yes, the president is using gay marriage for political reasons. Remember "W" ran on this platform in his presidential bid for re-election. How started this fight and continues to bring this subject up, the Republicans. Yesterday was a reminder of this, when North Carolina helf elections to discriminate against a non-threatening minority (cowards). This is such a stupid subject to divide this country when we show be talking about jobs.
I am a gay man. You have no idea what a second-class citizen I feel like, eventhough I pay taxes and participate in making this world a better place for all. I have been with the same partner for over eighteen years, and we can't marry. Jack, all I have to say is if you were gay, you'd feel very different. Since you are not, you care less and it shows. It take a wise and compassionate person to stand up for the injustice of the world. Thank you Mr. President!
It's more likely to hurt him than help him in November. As for a president spending a minute on civil rights issues when there are such serious economic issues to deal with, you should specify under which exact conditions politicians have your permission to do both. What exactly must the national debt be, what must the unemployment rate be, before we can worry about social issues as well? With gay teenagers committing suicide because they feel so alone, just maybe we could squeeze in both issues. With gay couples not able to be with their loved one on their death bed, maybe it shouldn't be put on hold until we have a balanced budget.
I disagree with the idea that Gay Marriage is not a "real" issue. It has an effect on the economy (taxes, inheritance, property ownership, health insurance, etc.), legal implications for important life issues that are regulated for everyone (health decisions, adoptions, visitation rights, immigration, etc.), and I almost forgot! It is a fundamental question of justice! When people give birth to, or study, or work with individuals in same-sex relationships they start to question bigotry. For a long time the president has been expressing his ambivalence between his religious beliefs and his convictions about civil rights. As many people, he has been changing. To reduce this to political opportunism is not only unfair but also wrong because by going public the president is more likely to loose votes than winning them. I just can't think of too many gay people running to vote for Romney before (or after) President Obama's pronouncement today. Melissa G. Carlisle, PA.
Oh Jack, this doesn't do anything for him. In fact is probably damaging to him politically. I for one think it is about time for him to step up on this issue and he has. Im proud he is my president and your dismissive attitude shows your true colors.
Hey Cafferty! Gay marriage IS a real issue! Do you really think civil rights are a wedge issue? Even living in NYC, I never thought Obama would come out in support of gay marriage, because I thought it would sink his chances at reelection. He's got a bigger pair than I'd imagined. Hats off.
Hi Jack,
It's not about political gain. It's more about creating another diversion. The war on Women was one and this is another way for
the president to avoid addressing the real issues which are concerning the country.
J.S Ca.
How dumb do you think we are, Jack?? Of course he is using it for political gain. No brainer.
Really Jack, one of the 3 wedge issues (God, Guns and Gays) Republicans have used to divert attention from their allegiance to Grover Norquist and the rich. Now you think President Obama has brought it up for political gain?
I feel like a teacher who has seen his student (you Jack) just wake up from a lecture. Where have you been? This has been announced over and over lately that Pres. Obama has been mulling this issue over in his presidency and has come to a decision. Of course, a socially conscience President with the rights of all Americans being paramount to his thinking, will have an impact. Why not now to go out and announce his stand now? He is, after all running for office. What could be a more opportune time?
Try explaining how today's historic announcement is political gain to my 8-year old daughter. Today, her President displayed nothing but respect and support for her LGBT family. While political pundits and Republican opportunists may try to diminish President Obama, our American family is deeply appreciative of the President's courage in the face of tremendous risk. Our President affirmed today that equality and justice for all remain deeply held American values.
Jack, you are saying the president should have had an explicit opinion all this time? Like many in this country, his beliefs have evolved. More and more Americans have openly gay friends and family members, and as we have witnessed their struggles and poor treatment, our beliefs have evolved. Your cynical attitude only contributes to the culture of intolerance and hate in this country. Personally, I don't care if he's using it for political gain. By putting his support out there, maybe one gay or questioning teenager or young adult will see a glimmer of hope that someday they will enjoy the same benefits traditionally married couples do and choose to stick around to see what the future holds.
Gays lesbians and others are people too. I love a president speak out his mind. he got my vote. He is going to be a great president.
Hayward,CA
Jack –
It is my sincere hope that the youth of this country hear, understand, and respect President Obama's opinion. However as a 20-something conservative, I worry that it will detract them from the real issues of today. Pick your poison.
Where would the political gain come from? It was already pretty clear that Obama was more progressive than Romney when it came to LGBT rights (e.g. repeal of DADT). Anyone who favors gay rights and votes solely (or mostly) on the issue of gay rights would already have been on Obama's side. Those who don't vote mostly on the issue of gay rights probably won't be swayed much at all in either direction. I really don't see this making much impact at all in the big picture, and I don't think the Obama campaign would be silly enough to think differently.
Besides the fact you sound like an angry old man who doesn't understand the importance of equal rights for all people in this country, I somewhat agree with you, I believe the President has felt this way for a long time and just had to come out and finally say it after Biden beat him to the punch.
Tucson, AZ – Everyone has this issue wrong. Opponents of gay marriage seek to define the sacrament of marriage, but that is not subject to law. Churches each have absolute power to define what is or is not a sanctioned sacramental marriage. Gay churches have been performing sacramental gay marriages for decades under their right of free exercise of religion according to the First Amendment. What is at issue are over 100 legal rights States grant to spouses by the state contract of marriage that are not granted to the unmarried. The Constitution does not allow the granting of rights to some and not others – see the 14th Amendment. It is unconstitutional to ban gay marriage, and no state law or state constitutional amendment to the contrary has any legal standing. Sooner or later all gay marriage bans will be overturned by the United States Supreme Court, just like Jim Crow, for the same reason, no matter what public opinion says, no matter who votes overwhelming to ban it, no matter what any elected official or candidate says. The case is conclusive. The only way to legally ban gay marriage is to strip marriage of all exclusive legal benefits.
Really Jack? Does that mean every move he makes and every decision he makes from now until November will be for political reasons. How does he get away from that given that it IS an election year. The President has said that he was "evolving" on this. Maybe since the question was asked and answered (unplanned) by the Vice President on Sunday, that it became clear that it was time for him to make his stance clear. I think it's more of a risk than a benefit for him. I can see the ads that Karl Rove and his superpacs will run now. I applaud the President for taking this POLITICAL RISK and stating his firm convictions on this issue. He didn't run away from it which is more than I can say for Romney on just about any issue,
Jack,
This is a civil rights issue!! So glad to see a President with the courage to support equal rights. Shame on you, Jack. Civil rights don't go away because of high unemployment or a struggling economy. Romney's response was the true pander. It sounded like the "separate but equal" of the old south. History will remember this day as a special one. Obama is a true leader.
Of course it is. And it will backfire on him. It overwhelmingly failed in the Liberal Kingdom of California
You said just a moment ago, that there are "real issues" that he needs to focus on... Just because the issue doesnt directly affect you and the way you live your life, for many Americans it does. It also may benefit you to keep in mind that in the years leading up to the civil war financial & trade issues as well as land disputes were amassed in the political sphere but the straw that broke the camels back was a social issue: Slavery.
What your rant had in strong stance and overt attacks at the political way of life it sure was lacking in long view and forethought.
The constitution says "We the people" not "We the straight people". This is a true leader reiterating the strong conviction of the american rights of life liberty and the pursuit of happeness. No polictial gain Jack. Just having courage to stand up for something that could even possibly hurt him politically. A profile of courage.
Jack, you might want to poll the gay people in your family. See if they think it's just election year politics?
President Obama is making the correct decision in bringing up the Marriage issue now. This will always be a hot topic for the conservatives. It is nice to see that he is finally doing the right thing in believing in equality for all Americans. By the time that November rolls around some peoples opinion may evolve and other issues will take precedence, like the economy and foreign affairs.
Jack – to be perfectly honest – I will have to agree with James Carville – Obama could Lose – like big (possibly) especially with this gay marriage thing – Obama is taking a huge gamble, in my opinion, thinking that he's got All of the Youth Vote, but he may be mistaken. I'll tell you what I done when I was a "youth" (so to speak) – I really didn't care if I voted or not. Why ? because I was working everyday, week in and week out, year in and year out, and knew I had a Job to go to everyday. People asked me at the factory : are you going to go Vote ? I said : why should I ? It would cost me an hours wage, by the time I clocked out, and went to the voting booth, and got back to clock in. I mean an hours wage, was something back then. I honestly didn't care if Dukakis or Reagan / or Bush / or Quayle / or Ford / or Bush (again) or if it was Clinton was president, it didn't matter, because I was working, and had a Job, and whomever was to be president didn't make my life any more difficult, or easier. SO – If Obama is taking that Gamble – he may Lose – The Youth don't really care – as long as they are on social media – and can listen to their I -pods / I pads & can text their friends, they don't care who is the next president.( I will honestly say that I DID Vote For Clinton )
On this issue we part company Jack. I think he was speaking from his heart not his head. When he mentions his daughters and wife and his interaction with them on this issue he is not being political. You may take a pass in your cynicism. but I believe the Pres. Obama has impressed me and the country with his polical courage rather than his polical manupulation.
Gee Jack, tell us what you really think. "NO" is my answer. I believe politically it could be a death blow. I think it was what he needed to say to look his children in the face. It was what he believed..deep down believed....the answer that came from some small voice that said..." all created equal' To me, all means all. I came to the same conclusion about 10 years ago. I think I used a similar process.
No, I do not think Obama's statement on support for gay marriage is for political gain. I support this position and I'm glad the President had the courage to make his position known. But I also think that, politically, it will hurt him more than help him. When politicians say what they think the public wants to hear we say they are pandering. When they come forward with a view that is probably going to be viewed negatively by more people than support it, that takes courage.
North Port, FL
LBJ was waist-deep in the Vietnam War when he supported the issue of Civil Rights for black citizens, which I imagine was considered to be a ‘wedge issue’ back in the day by some. Was supporting civil rights political opportunism? A sitting US President coming out in favour of equality for all is a good thing, politics or not. Smile, Jack.
Oh look the Family Research Council gets to talk...oh joy what's next a response from the United Klans of America. Allowing same sex couples benefits that marriage grants hurts no one, and detracts not an iota from bianary marriages.
Obviously Obama does not want another four years of being POTUS and miss the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity of being a full-time father while his daughters are still young. Good for him. Family comes first. Let the other Wall Street candidate ru(i)n the country.
Jack, it's too risky for him to have just come out with that for political gain. It sounds more like he was getting it out of the way since Biden brought attention to it. Same sex marriage has been voted down in every state it has been on the ballot of. Voters in favor of same sex marriage are mostly on his side already, so he's not gaining too much. If anything, it'll hurt him, since so many in this country are hell bent on restricting homosexuals' rights. And speaking of political gain, where's the outrage about Romney flopping on the issue to pick up the religious right? He used the issue of gay rights in his campaign for the Senate, and allowed same sex marriage to pass while governor of Massachusetts. Now that he needs the evangelical vote, he's had a change of heart. At least Obama's record on DOMA and DADT have been consistent with what he announced today.
Leah
Los Angeles, CA
Good Lord, how angry you sound about this! And how cynical to characterize it as 'pandering' and a trivial concern compared to the economy. As trivial as a candidate's 'likeability'? (Oh wait... that was last hour...)
Newflash, Jack: It's not a waste of time to say a few supporting words on a civil rights. I realize that you don't want ANY time spent on issues that you are personally uncomfortable with, socially, but those of us under 75 would like to know where the president stands.
Jack, your argument that the economy is more important than human rights is similar to the one slave owners made when opposing abolition. And, are we supposed to believe that people like you have been pushed deeper into poverty so much that the economy is more important to you than anything?
I think that President Obama's flip flop fell off it's side as the political winds shifted. What 50 year old is still evolving regarding this type of issue? I think it's ridiculous that President Obama has been allowed to dance around issues. He should stand up for what he believes in.
Not everything that comes out of the President's mouth is political and a distraction from "real" issues. This is a real issue. It affects real Americans. The first POTUS to support full marriage equality is an historic civil rights achievement
As an African-American who supports the president, he made the right call to let people know his position on the issue. I see it as a civil right issue and I favor gay marriage. By the end of the day, the political gain will be moving this economy forward and same-sex couples is a part of that too!! Jobs!
Shay,
Blackstone, VA
Possibly, but more importantly I think that, up until today that is, he's been avoiding publicly announcing his opinion on the issue to prevent political hinderance. It's good to see he's finally able to voice his actual opinion on a controversial issue such as this.
I can hardly believe that you suggested, Jack, that a person's right to marry is not a "real issue". It's as much of a real issue as were the civil rights of blacks back in the 1960s. I'm a gay man and while I have no desire nor intention to get married, I believe that every American should be treated equally under the law and that we gays, bisexuals, and lesbians have a right not to be treated as second-class citizens any longer. President Obama's statement was that gay couples "should" be able to marry and not that we have a right to marry which is the case so, yes, I believe that he acted for political reasons. He realized that this will satisfy many gay people who voted for him the first time but who've become disillusioned with him over the past four years. I won't vote for him anyway and I sure won't vote for Romney.
It seems to me that it will hurt the PRez more than it helps him. Everyone with a brain knows that not supporting gay marriage is plain and simple discrimination. But the religious right, supported by too many close minded followers opposes gay marriage. Why? Because the bible, a fairytale book from 2000 years ago, syas marriage is between a man and a woman. Come on folks, how is this different from forbidding blacks to sit in the front of the bus? 50 years from now people will look back and can't imagine how this country that fights for freedom everywhere n the world was able to discriminate against its own citizens. I think the majority in the usa is still against gay marriage so this is a courageous step.
if obama isn't using it for political gain, republicans will. republicans have played devil's avocate since obama was elected. republicans just want to say pres obama has failed. obama has been remarkable in trying to get the US back, his beliefs don't worry me. pres obama 2012!
Let's step into the future.....Nowadays heterosexual couples are living together, having children, and not tying the knot, or walking down the aisle. In future...only gays will be getting married, and not heterosexuals. Sow what's the big deal about this issue? In my opinion, Obama is a "wimp", without a mind of his own. Being led by sources forcing him to change his mind. Is this what he meant during his campaign, when he kept mentioned the word "change"? It's pitiful. How can he face himself in the mirror and feel good about himself?
Can't let go of the wedge issues, can you, Jack? And can't stop bashing the President either. You should work for Fox News.
There are bigger, more important issues–the economy, jobs, bringing the troops home from Afghanistan, etc. Here's an idea, Jack: why not keep out of people's personal lives, sex lives, and bedrooms. If gays want to marry, let them. They should have the same rights as the rest of us. Oh, I forgot, you want small government except when it comes to women's bodies and gays' sex lives–then you want the biggest government possible telling these people how to live.
If you don't believe in gay marriage, don't marry a gay person. And while this may be hard to believe, gays getting married has nothing to do with you, with your marriage, or with your rights. Giving them the same civil rights you have doesn't mean you get less civil rights. Sheesh.
I believe he just speaking what he believe from his heart. Even if he was for gays or not he would of still being attack because of any response. I don't agree with his decision on gay marriage, but that's not going to base my decision on whether I'm going to vote for him or not
No. President Obama will lose votes among the 47 % that disagree with same-sex marriages, with the Catholics, and probably with many voters on the age group of yourself and Wolf.
Don’t be alarmed: homosexuality is not contagious. It is just very painful to be treated as second class citizens for something in your genes that you can’t control.
“Treat others in the same way you want to be treated” is all that the gay community deserves.
Carmen
Miami Fl
Yes,You would have to be dunce to think he is not using this for votes.My Dad and Mom were devoted democrats,I too am a solid democrat.To make a statement: "I am in favor of same sex marriage",did not need to happen.In the last 1960's family values started a different direction.If you believe in the Bible,God,or whatever you might believe in; let me ask you this:If we were all gay ,how would anybody have children?This one issue might very well make me switch my vote.One woman, one man and I will tell my children the same
He possibly could be although I do believe it is what's in his heart, so if it helps the vote then so be it. As far as it being a "real issue" Jack, If you were gay, you would know this is a real issue. If all white men were not given equal rights because they were white, you would understand how real this isuue is. I'd almost wish that you came back as a gay man in an afterlife if that were possible, but honestly, I wouldn't wish it on anyone, not in this country and not now. It's always those that the issue does not affect directly that seem to be the most opposed to equal rights to that part of society. I pay taxes just like you as an American, I should be entitled to the same rights that you enjoy so freely. We're not asking for special treatment, just equal treatment as human beings in this great country. That's pretty real to a whole lot of us Jack!
Gee, Jack. You mean you don't think all the referendums against gay marriage are politically generated? You mean you don't know that the republicans have used this issue for years to get the yahoos to the voting booths? So yes, this is a political issue used by politicians for political gain. But more importantly, it's a civil rights issue, and you should think twice before you suggest that civil rights are not on your personal list of "real issues in this country."
Come on Jack. Obama is just doing the right thing by finally coming out for gay marriage. Politics only entered into it when the President evaded the issue when it seemed there wasn't enough support to support gay marriage. Your cynical analysis claiming Obama is "only doing this for political gain" is the sort of unhelpful and dispiriting nonsense that makes people hate the media. As to your contention that gay marriage is a just a small "wedge issue" that doesn't deserve consideration at all, well 10 years ago I might have agreed with you but that's no longer possible when the radical right is pushing for needless constitutional amendments to "define marriage as only between a man and woman". If the radical right was consistent it would leave the gay marriage issue up to individual conscience and religious institutions to decide as they saw fit and leave the state out of it. Nor is gay marriage a "small wedge issue" for my gay and lesbian friends in committed relationships who are denied the same legal and tax rights that straight married couples do. You're dead wrong about this Jack. On all counts.
– David / Falls Church, VA
I find it infuriating that your network gives voice to Tony Perkins, the leader of an SPLC-recognized hate group, on a matter of civil rights. Would you have the leader of the KKK come on to explain why racial discrimination is valid and should be defended? Mr Perkins lies when he says he's interested in religious freedom. He is only interested iin religious freedom for those who share his views. If he was REALLY in favor of religious freedom, he'd fight on behalf of the churches who embrace equality and want to be able to legally bless same-sex unions with which their denominations are comfortable.
Jack, "marriage" is a sacrament or other religious-based institution. The word "marriage" should be removed from laws and regulations. ANY two people who want to cohabit should enter a contract governed by laws, which would include, ahead of time, the disposition of property and responsibilities, particularly for care of children. If they wish a "marriage," a couple could also go to a church, synagogue, mosque, or other religious place. This would solve a lot of problems.
MARRAGE is between a man and a woman........ What next a man and his dog get married ,
whats the big deal.the man said what he thinks, Joe was simply greasing the skids for him. I commend him for taking a risky stand and I'm a white, Catholic, Heterosexual male,from Mass.and watched Romney flip flop for years. My opinion has evolved over the years as well. No problems here! Back off a little Jack,Your starting to sound like an angry right wing Romney-oid and who wants to be one of those!!!!
How curmudgeonly and hateful you sound, Jack. After the vote in North Carolina (a battleground state) yesterday and all the contrary referenda throughout the country, why would this be politically helpful to the President? This is a courageous statement and a watershed moment for us all.
Winston-Salem NC.
Playing politics with social issues has been mostly the preserve of the Right in recent years. Conservatives have been using using gay marriage/adoption/gays in the military/religious freedom/gun control etc., etc., as base-motivating get-out-the-vote wedge issues for years and they do the politics of fear so very, very well. Today the President articulated his belief. Period. He knew what the response would be from the right. As an independent whose own happy marriage is absolutely not threatened by gays getting the right to marry, I applaud him.
In (short) time most will look back at those opposed to gay marriage with the same sentiment we feel about those who opposed civil rights for african Americans in the 50's/60's......its prejudice any way you slice it.
Look Jack, atleast we know that someone can stand on conviction, in no way, shape, or form, did President Obama use this in a political way....I gasped at the interview and yet felt the sincerity in what he was saying. This moment was just like "coming out", it is risky, everyone will not agree, but atleast a person knows that they no longer have to live for what society or people say to do. More importantly, you know longer live hypocritcally. You imagine Jack what it's like to be in your skin and it's not accepted, or be a woman and it's not accepted, or be black and its not accepted. All because of who you are and who you choose to date. Neither one of those issues being anybody's business. Spiritual conviction I totally get, but we tend to forget we will not be in groups when we stand before God we will be judged individually.
How refreshing and hopeful it is to have a politician be "true to himself" as Shakespeare put it and take a stance on such a controversial issue even though it could be his death knell politically. Who'da thunk it would ever happen!! And shame on those who themselves have experienced major discrimination and abuse for inflicting the same kind of behaviour on others!! God doesn't make no junk!!
What is the point of this question jack? of course all politicians do what they do for political ends. Just like you and I, he has the right to take a position on issues. so, do not see the point of this question as it does not address the issue. Would the question have been the same had he remained neutral on the issue? I do not see your point with this question. A better question would be:"is gay marriage a civil right"?
Pander? Are you crazy Mr. Cafferty? I think you need to realize that Gay men and women have been waiting for a long time. We finally got a favorable President and expected change. We had to WAIT 3.5 years this has nothing to do with the Election and the president was just responding to what needed to be addressed. So state it this way Mr. Cafferty "Today after 3.5 years of focusing on the Economy, Foregin Policy and Killing the most wanted terrorist in the world President Obama stands up for Marriage Equality for all tax paying Americans" Thank you Mr. Cafferty. And thank you President Obama!!