In light of recent events, what's the point of staying in Afghanistan?
Afghan protestors shouted anti-U.S. slogans during a demonstration in Jalalabad today.
March 13th, 2012
03:23 PM ET

In light of recent events, what's the point of staying in Afghanistan?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

How much is enough?

The United States has been in Afghanistan for more than 10 years. And President Obama insists we will remain in Afghanistan until the end of 2014.


What will be accomplished by staying in that godforsaken hellhole for another 20 months that hasn't been accomplished in 10.5 years?

Events are beginning to conspire against the U.S. mission there. We had pictures of U.S. Marines urinating on dead bodies. We had the accidental burning of copies of the Quran, which further inflamed the hatred of the American presence there.

And now we have a U.S. soldier allegedly massacring 16 Afghan civilians, including women and children. The Taliban are threatening to begin beheading U.S. soldiers in response to this latest outrage.

Yet the Obama White House is insisting that none of this will deter us from our mission, which is what exactly? I have no idea what the hell we're doing there anymore. Isn't Osama bin Laden dead?

The Karzai government is a puppet regime that is barely friendly to our government, and the rest of the country hates our guts. Not unlike the way we might feel if an army of occupation had taken up residence in the United States and begun desecrating our dead, burning our Bibles and massacring our women and children.

Not to be cynical, but it's my nature. The one thing that might hasten our departure from Afghanistan is if Obama's re-election campaign is in trouble come Labor Day.

Suddenly with his second term in doubt, my guess is he might decide to move up the timetable for bringing our troops home. Hey, whatever it takes.

I don't know about you, but I've had a bellyful of Afghanistan.

Tune in to the Situation Room at 5pm to see if Jack reads your answer on air.

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  1. Noel Sivertson New Mexico

    Thre is no point. There never was. The only reason for prolonging it is some some officers can davance in rank a bit faster and the militayr-industrial complex can build more Strykers and drones and bombs and missiles.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
  2. Tom in Desoto, TX

    Any possible good that has been accomplished as been obliterated. Turn out the lights, and shut the door.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
  3. Russ in PA

    Seem as it's always been: for the benefit of the military complex. To control natural resources. And to put a fence around China. And, of course, to continue to dominate the world per McCain, Bush, Graham, Lieberman, et al. It's to control the world! ( que maniacal laughter track)

    Ron Paul in 2012... There is no other answer.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
  4. Charles, Lansing, Michigan

    We never belonged in Afghanistan because bin Laden was never there. However if the Pentagon insists on staying there is only one alternative available. The soldier's company commander should visit him in the lockup and put a bullet in his ear. He will go before a military tribunal and not spend a day in jail. The worst is a general discharege. Nothi;ng less will stem the violence.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
  5. Ed from MD

    Nothing poppys to mind, why we should stay in Afghanitstan.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
  6. Bizz, Quarryville Pennsylvania

    Jack there really is no point to us being there any longer. We have worn-out our welcome just like we did in Iraq. The only thing more we can expect to accomplish, is more war flag great coffins, wounded soldiers and more soldiers suffering from traumatic stress disorder. I would leave now with the message that we will only come back if we are attacked again. But this time there will be no more nationbuilding or training Afghan soldiers. Our sole purpose would be getting and destroying the people responsible.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
  7. Ed from California

    There is no point, in staying there for one more minute. I was reading that this soldier who murdered the Afghan citizens, has had four tours of duty. What in the hell are we doing? We are burning our militay personal, out. Jack. If we are to stay in Afghanistan, Iraq, or even think about (stupidly) invading/bombing Iran.....we need a draft!! We can't keep rotating the same people in and out of War.....it's not working.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
  8. Greg McCarthy

    Jack, The biggest point to staying in Afghanistan is that the GOP and their overkll military budget is at stake. They want to leave,but at the same time they don't. Our militarys capacity is already at a point of comparing dropping a bowling ball on top of an ant. We can take out infrastructure from afar,then send in the troops to finish the dirty work. Speaking of infrastructure,where is ours? Yeah,I thought so. No earmark contracts,no highways and bridges. Greg M. FL

    March 13, 2012 at 2:26 pm |
  9. Julia, Fayetteville, NC

    When 9-11 happened and the "people that know" started telling us about Afghanistan and we were already broke, why didn't we take a lesson or lessons from Russia and just "do our thing swiftly" and let no American lives be lost and no money from our tills be spent doing things for people who want to be tribesmen and remain in the atmosphere they were in. Yes, women were having a hard time but have you looked at us, calling young ladies sluts when you have no proof they are and certainly don't know them. What is the difference between us and Afghanistan? It isn't worth it and apparently one man reacted violently. Maybe he had had all he could handle. Why don't we come home and take care of us?

    March 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
  10. pat in michigan

    i guess it would depend on what it is we want of theirs.Can't be oil.um,I know an air base to launch our war with Iran.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:27 pm |
  11. Dr. Michael D. Knox, Tampa

    What was the point of invading Afghanistan in the first place? The 911 criminals were trained to fly in Florida and most were from Saudi Arabia.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
  12. Jim, Denver CO

    None. Unless you are a Defense Industry company or contractor; don't want to cause any more unemployment do we?

    March 13, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
  13. Doug Ericson

    Bring the troops in Afghanistan home now. The Tilt button is flashing neon red and the alarm is deafening. Doug, Pepperell, MA.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
  14. Gary - Woodhaven, Michigan

    When I returned home from Vietnam in 1970 to the contempt, vileness, and disrespect of many of the American people, I spent the next twenty years trying to find a reason why by peering through the bottom of a bottle of booze.

    It wasn't until I sobered up and realized that there is no answer to why when man battles man over ideology and ignorance. War never makes sense in the end and for those who have never experienced combat and attempt to make sense or rationalize war, are fools.

    Let's welcome our soldiers home with the empathy, compassion, and love they deserve, and not stereotype them as we were in Vietnam, because as us, they understand all they wanted to do was what they believed best whether that was right or wrong in anyone eyes really does not matter as there will never be an answer to why at the end of any conflict.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:37 pm |
  15. Evinia Bruce

    How many times are you going to ask this question???...the answer is ALWAYS the same ..look up Afghanistan oil/gas pipe line ..in the planning YEARS ago !!!
    everything else is just a smoke screen ...why doesn't the president and the US government tell it as it is ..the American people love their gas guzzling vehicles so much and feel entitled to cheap gas..they would surely APPROVE of blood for oil ..and APPLAUD the president for "doing something about high gas prices "..! ..[ as moronic as that is ].
    B.C. Canada

    March 13, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
  16. Michael Bindner, Alexandria, VA

    There really isn't one, although capturing or killing al-Zawahiri and Sheik Omar would be an excuse for an exit, What is really essential is partition and boundary redrawing. The Pashtun areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan should be one country under either Pakistan control or their own country – although before we go, we should offer asylum to any women who want to leave.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
  17. Loren

    No point to our remaining in Afghanistan, but because there is no point, we will. We overstayed any potential good outcome in Viet Nam and neither our political leaders nor our military leaders are willing to acknowledge the applicability of those lessons to Afghanistan. Time to go.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
  18. Mack from Michigan

    There is no point in staying in afghanistan Jack! Them Camel kissin sand farmers havent evolved any since the stone age and no amount of our treasure and blood is gonna change that! Until somebody can tell me what we "won" in Iraq,or Vietnam,or Korea I can see nothing to be gained in Afghanistan.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
  19. Wade

    Yes! If for no other reason, to help curb drug traffic that funds terrorism. Also, the left told us Afghanistan was where we should be instead of Iraq. All that being said, we’ll cut & run anyway!

    March 13, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
  20. Andre R. Newcomb

    Point of staying? . . . to gain forgiveness. The urinations and this event are not representative of American character.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:49 pm |
  21. Gary in San Jose, California

    The point? Simple Jack. That is where the bad guys live. Our special operations units will be working the Afghan/Pakistan border for a long time.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:51 pm |
  22. Karl in Flint, MI

    There is no point. The tribes there have been fighting since Roman times or before and we aren't going to change anything. We did what Bush went in to do and Obama finished and it's time to leave. They are not open to any change in their way of life and we need to get out and start improving our own way of life.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
  23. Dave, Vancouver

    Sadly, Afghanistan has become the new Iraq. The only point in staying on now–after the worst Coalition-force's mass murder of Afghan civilians since the war began–is to honor the service men and women who have thus far given their lives in what started out as a noble mission ... most of whom I'm sure, could they speak, would say it's time now. Time to leave.

    March 13, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
  24. Richard Texas

    I agree with you on the belly full of Afghanistan. The trouble now is that Russia tried and could not defeat the Taliban and now America with the largest military in the world has tried and failed at it too. This will only empower the Taliban. Who could ever win if not Russia and America? What was it all for? The cost of life and monetary loss is staggering. What has all of this gained us?

    March 13, 2012 at 2:59 pm |
  25. Tom Bulger, Canandaigua, NY

    The President has always been a realist. I think he is as keen as a Quaker to get us out of Afghanistan. The First Lady is dealing with the war's consequences as well.in her work with military families. Logistically it can not happen today, but it will happen.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
  26. Wm in PA

    The moment to bomb the Saudi-9-11's training camp in Afghanistan is 10 years past. For a while there was an urban legend that the international natural gas barons wanted Afghanistan to build a pipe line – could be.
    Afghanistan is a collection of war lords and has never been an organized country and it is not about to become one: The British tried twice, the Russians tried and now we too have failed. BUT, our military-industrial-congressional cabal is taking the U.S. tax payers to bankruptcy. We even deposit Kasai's graft payments to his 30+ foreign bank accounts. So we waste 100 BILLION dollars a year.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  27. Kim , Dodge City, Ks

    Our government appears to despise learning from history. The Afgans are not the least bit interested in democracy, or anything that smacks of a modern world. It's a shame that we can't admit when it's time to go, and let them have their theocratic nightmare to themselves. Too bad so many of our best you men died for political gain, again.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  28. Nancy, Tennessee

    Senator Lindsay Graham said that we will look weak in the eyes of Iran if we pull out of Afghanistan. Enough! We are as strong as our brave soldiers, mighty Navy, and arsenal of weapons – not how Iran perceives us. We should have pulled the troops the day after bin Laden's body was sunk at sea. Our intelligence, special forces, and drones will take out the terrorists. We do not need to be in countries where our soldiers don't even recognize who the enemy is while staring them in the face. President Obama needs to bring the troops home!

    March 13, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  29. perry jones

    what was the point of goimg there there were no afghanistan in the 2001 attack

    March 13, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  30. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    As far as I'm concerned we should get out today and leave well enough alone but we need to spend more money we don't have and kill off more people. As for the President, if he waits until September it won't help him with the election, it will be too late and he'll lose.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
  31. Mitoosense

    It won't happen untill after the election I'm thinking

    March 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
  32. Pete in Florida

    Remember Colin Powell? Remember "You break it, you bought it."? Well, remember or not, we invaded both Iraq and Afghanistan foolishly and needlessly, spent trillions, killed or wounded about 40,000 Americans, as well as hundreds of thousands of those country's citizens, and did all that without first forming a "declare victory and then leave" strategy. Now we're stuck. Both countries hate us, and we've solved NONE of their problems, only created more. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Leave NOW, and this time learn the lesson – STOP trying to turn other countries into the USA.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
  33. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    It's all about money and promises Jack. We spend a lot of money that we borrow from China and create jobs to make war equipment and then we also make promises to people that should never be made. The GOP, war mongers, want to be in more wars, not fewer.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
  34. Bill of New Mexico

    All missions accomplished for America.

    Before America, 90% of the Afghanistan people hated the Taliban–now, 90% of the Afghanistan people want the Taliban to free them from America.

    America has blown hundreds of billions of dollars.

    Ruined tens of thousands of American soldiers' lives–not to count the Afghanistan lives.

    But since, there is absolutely no danger of America learning a single thing from this pathos–allow the blood and money to continue to drain until Obama's planned exit!

    When Obama made his fateful (dithering) 2009 decision, Biden told Obama that the Afghanistan War would become Obama's War.

    If Obama does not immediately begin pulling out of Afghanistan, "Obama's War" will impact the 2012 election even more than $5 dollar a gallon gas.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  35. Pete in Georgia

    On this, and most everything else in the Middle East I agree with Ron Paul.
    We are at the point of total collapse of our American values, economy, civil liberties, government strangling evasive regulations in all phases of our lives and business....................................and we're supposed to give a rats behind about what a dozen corrupt dictatorships 13,000 miles away are doing, destroying themselves daily ??
    When will this insanity stop ??
    When is enough ...................enough ??
    When will the American people wake up and realize that we've been deceived into these catastrophes, where we don't belong, long enough by crooked politicians and their special interest groups ??
    America.....................it's time you took care of YOURSELF !!!

    March 13, 2012 at 3:08 pm |
  36. Ed from Texas

    I don't see how we're going to "win hearts and minds." Cyrus the Great, Alexander the Great, the British, and the Russians couldn't. And it's also important to remember that more planning for the 9/11 attacks took place in Germany than in Afghanistan. And bin Laden is dead.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
  37. Paulette from Dallas,PA

    There is no point in our staying over there. The only thing the US is going to get is more dead Americans. Leave them to their own devices.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
  38. James - Alexandria, VA

    There is no point of staying in Afghanistan just like there is no point in getting involved with what is going on in Syria. You would think that after what happened to the Russians when they were driven out that the US would have learned. The Afghanistan citizens want none of us in there country trying to push our way of life on them and as far as the country as a whole they can have it. I would not want to live there. Bring the soldiers home and leave Afghanistan people sort out their own problems......they are not worth it.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
  39. calaurore9

    Has any country ever had success there? Why were we ever there? Use Bin Laden as the excuse to get outta there NOW.

    C in Ma

    March 13, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
  40. Cathy

    We should have gotten out of that godforsaken hell-hole a long tome ago- the faster we get out, the better

    March 13, 2012 at 3:19 pm |
  41. Jilli from Houston

    What was the point of going there in the first place?

    Get us out. The sooner the better.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
  42. John Lake Charles, LA

    We had no reason to go in in the first place. Now we have every reason to get out. However, our government will not change the draw down plan.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
  43. curtis in philadelphia

    Better question Jack: what was the point of going? Nothing has been accomplished, nothing; we've wasted lives and treasure and the whole time Bin Laden was in Pakistan. The real shame is we haven't learned a damn thing from it, next stop: Iran!

    March 13, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
  44. JohninPA

    I'm with you Jack. Unless the administration still sees some hope in the old oil-pipeline-through-the-Khyber-pass conspriacy for occupation of Afghanistan, there is no good reason to keep wasting money there.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
  45. Jeffery, Toledo, Ohio

    We did not get into Afghanistan to unseat the Taliban, or engage in "nation building", however noble those goals may seem. We got into Afghanistan to eliminate the very real threat posed to this country in the wake of 9/11 by Osama binLaden and al Queda. Now, with binLaden dead, and al Queda a mere shadow of its former self,–we have rendered them practically incapable of ever launching another real attack against our country–it's safe to say that we've accomplished our mission there. It's time to bring our soldiers home.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:32 pm |
  46. Annie, Atlanta

    When are we, as human beings, going to learn our lessons? I'm beginning to wonder if we're even capable of doing so. Isn't Afghanistan the country where empires go to die? But no, we're the big bad US of A, and we're immune. Well, apparently not. Bring our troops home. And to finish my rant, why does our government send a man back into combat after being diagnosed with a severe brain injury? Good grief, another lesson we should have well learned, but haven't.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
  47. jen seattle wa

    It's all about the Securing the God Foresaken Poppy for the Pharmacuetical companies of Europe and north america.. A sacrilige to asking an innocent to put self in harms way while foolishly attempting to prop up illiterate junkies whose only job and salary comes from u.s. training to be military. the very job that we invaded to stop them from training ..now they get trained with dollars that drain our country while were overwhelmed in u.s. by derivatives of poppy(drugs) that 3rd world ships sneak past our customs in local u.s. ports.,especially the china controlled port of seattle

    March 13, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
  48. david doherty

    I'm with you Jack, what is the mission, I mean besides filling the pockets of the military industrial complex. The longer we stay the more enemy's we make. The two men that are the most responsible for 911 are out of the picture now, so lets leave before we have more of our Americans facing a death penalty trial. If this ridiculous war is shortened because of that soldier and his rampage, he'll have saved a lot more lives than he took.
    Dave from NH.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
  49. Duane North Dakota

    Jack: We need to get out and soon. Our mistake was going into Iraq, wasting American lives and taxpayer dollars on failed intelligence. We got Osama Bin laden IN PAKISTAN! The only things that will be accomplished in another 20 months of failed foreign policy in Afghanistan are more American lives wasted and more tax dollars spent. We cannot seem to save ourselves from ourselves.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:45 pm |
  50. Overby

    Sure, burning their Kuran is rude, but it's just a book, it can easily be re-printed, so their reaction to all this shows their frame of mind of abnormalcy. Sure, it's terrible our soldiers have done some of the stuff they've done, but they've been in the war zones way too many times...back in the Viet Nam days, they were generally assigned one tour, these current soldiers have been on 4, 5, and even 6 tours...can you imagine yourself living in total fear of a violent death that much of your life??? No wonder they're not behaving 'normal'. Bring them home............

    March 13, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
  51. Dan in Albuquerque

    Jack, only to further train the Afghan army. I think we should speed up the withdrawal, but he Afghans must have a chance to keep the Taliban from taking over and slaughtering thousands they don't like. The women of Afghanistanwould be in rhe 10th century again with no hope of ever having any life of their own. It might happen again, but at last we will have accomplished some success in killing Bin Laden and educating many young Afghans that might hold some hope for a future.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
  52. Sandstone.

    "There are no points for staing there, what happens next will most likely be worse. Even on the Drugs those kids are being given in the military as support, will just cause compleat breakdoswns when they come back to the USA. Stress is stress, and they're only human."

    March 13, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
  53. Larry from Minnesota

    We need to get out and come home. They really do not want us there and there is nothing but negativity staying there. We need to start taking care of our own. Stop with the world police activity. These countries have been like this for centuries, who are we to try and fix them.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
  54. Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia

    Jack: It is time for the United States to realizes that they are getting diminishing returns on their investment--there is no admirable way to exit out of Afghanistan. We just need to leave--and if I may say-–yesterday. Nothing good is going to come out of this conflict--absolutely nothing-it time to us to leave the denial phase and execute the exit phase--and it doesn't matter how we leave.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  55. Ron WPAFB

    Sadly there is no point in staying, Jack. The only way that country could ever pull itself out of the past is through education. We build a school, the Taliban blow it up. I only hope that we also learn something from this!
    Religion is about Power over the People, Control, I don't care what Religion it is! Religion is a structured business weather it is for food or money or drugs, as in this case, coupled with Control and is based on fear. Keep them uneducated and preach If you don't do a certain thing, you will burn in............whatever! It's fear, plain and simple. The people in Afghanistan, have no chance and it will take decades before they are finally able to gain their freedom primarily due to the fact that there is nothing in Afghanistan that give stem power but Opium! No cash crops, rough terrain, dirt and cold. They need to move, leave, but the countries surrounding them, are really no better! Jack, you better bend over and kiss the ground you stand on because those people over there are Damned!

    March 13, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
  56. Jack - Phoenix,AZ

    Strategic MINERALS. If we lose Afganistan we are at the mercy of China for Strategic materials. NO other reason.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
  57. Wilhelm von Nord Bach - Las Vegas

    your "I've had a bellyful of Afghanistan" comment is totally CORRECT, Jack, and I think the vast majority of Americans, both Liberal AND Conservative agree.

    this whole war has been the MOST half baked effort I have seen in 40 years. it's a pure re-run of Vietnam complete with Pakistan as "Cambodia East" as the Taliban us Pakistan like the Viet Cong used Cambodia as a "safe haven". also the Afghan so called Karvai "govenment" obviously has NO popular support just like the Diem "govenment" back during Veitnam.

    we obviously did NOT learn that it's futile to try and prop up an unpolular govenment that is perceived by the local population as a foreign "occupiers" puppet. ir's reported that MOST Afghans view the foreign troops in their country like the Russians in the 1980's. they have NO idea WHY we are there and are completely ignorant about 9-11 or al-Qaeda.

    you CAN'T WIN in that situation UNLESS you are willing to go to TOTAL WAR with TOTAL DISTRUCTION like during WWII.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
  58. John Blythe

    Jack, it is a deep tragedy that Ron Paul will not win the GOP nomination, because he knows the real reason for staying in Afghanistan. The reason seems to be about protecting the United States' interests in oil pipelines and resources. Its sad to say, but that's the truth. We've been in Afghanistan for ten years, we were in Iraq for eight, we just finished another unnecessary US/NATO war in Libya for no reason, so I understand the frustration in the sentence of your commentary here Jack... "How much is enough?" We seem to make more enemies with our occupation in these countries, and garnering more hatred from these countries, than we are helping them. It's time to leave! – John in Lake Isabella, California

    March 13, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  59. Daniel

    Unless we're prepared to stay for 30 years we should leave immediately. The 2014 pull out date is political, nothing more.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
  60. yup

    No Need to be their......lets go, we got what we came for.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:56 pm |
  61. Ken

    Jack- Get our boys out of there now. It doesn't matter if we "finish" everything, we should put that money toward rebuilding our own country and feeding our own people. Karzai will be out as soon as we leave and everything will change. Obama is not helping our image around the world by keeping them there. We need to stop policing the world.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  62. Dave, Orlando, FL

    None. As soon as we dropped the ball in order to invade Iraq, it became pointless. That let the Taliban escape to recover and retrench. No one wins in Afghanistan.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  63. Penny from Minnesota

    Jack, I think you aren't the only one wondering why we're in Afghanistan. The Afghans have always been dominated by their government and no one that the people put in power will treat them any differently. They will still be dominated as that is what they are used to. We have no goal; no endgame. It's time to send our men and women home to their families.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  64. BILL, WI

    In spite of recent events, there is no valid reason to stay in Afghanistan. These events will only solidify the position of the Taliban, by making the actions of a single individual representative of an entire Army.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  65. B. J., Quincy, Il

    It's evident that they don't want us there, so we ought to give them a choice. Either they get rid of the talliban, or we take them over and quit this slapping each other in the face and win the war,period It's time we showed them that they should still fear us in war and to get along with us in peace/

    March 13, 2012 at 3:58 pm |
  66. Gary

    You have specifically discussed the issue that prevents me from supporting almost any Middle Eastern conflict. If the mission at hand isn't simple enough to describe in one or two sentences the conflict probably isn't worth losing lives and taking lives. I am not sure why we are still in the referenced war and I was even more confused why we took part in the Libyan revolt. What did we accomplish? What did we think we would accomplish? These are questions that should be pretty basic and easy to answer.

    March 13, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
  67. Name*Chris

    Mr President as a Gulf War area Veteran, I think its time to bring our troops Home. I support you but anyone of us will break with this many Deployments in Combat.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
  68. Lori

    Jack, you said all that needs to be said about this situation.
    I have seen those "outposts" defended with sand bags and our kids and in the middle of no where.
    We should bring our young men home today before all of them get killed!!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
  69. Jenna Roseville CA

    Gee Jack, where was your "belly full" of Afghanistan when GW was in power? He didn't even have an Exit Strategy to get us out of Afghanistan and Iraq – giggled he was going to leave "that" to the next president. Remember that?

    Obama has an exit strategy in place for Afghanistan already and we are on track to leave.

    Roseville CA

    March 13, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
  70. John

    I'm with you, Jack. Osama's dead why stay? We have drones now that can do considerable damage without jeopardizing American lives. If we need to take out a few terrorist camps, then control the drones from some comfy place like the United States and bomb the hell out of them because that's all they have left in them. Also if I were them, I wouldn't want us there either. They all hate us.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  71. Sheldon, Deloraine, Manitoba, Canada

    Canadian, American, British, Australian blood plus a host of others has been spilled in Afghanistan. Treasury money spent that none of the countries could afford. The Afghan government is corrupt. Will always be corrupt because it was always been corrupt. The values of the Western World are not supported in Afghanistan. Heroin is still flowing. The Taliban or remnants of them will remain. Who are we kidding. The British could not rule the place, the Scviets tried, and no the coalition has tried. The country does not want outside influence. How many times do they need to tell us NO, before we get the point? We keep doing the things we have always done, and keep getting the answer we have always got. Is the western World that stupid?

    March 13, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  72. Gigi Oregon

    I feel some what like you. BUT, the way we leave will or can break our reputation as a people and a nation. We must make peace with their government and we must pay the price of a guilty act of one of our troops. If we don't we will continue to be a waring nation. And I don't like the sounds of that. I didn't raise my son, grandsons and great grands sons to die for an arrogant nation. Bad things happen in wars but a Godly nation are peacemaker's according to the Good Book. I trust President Obama to do this. And I'm looking forward to giving him my conservative vote come November.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
  73. Jinn

    Leave it now like an ex-wife. It takes your money ($2 billion per WEEK being spent), hates you to no depth & there can never be peace as long as you stay. Death & destruction everywhere. Just like ex-wife.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
  74. art

    Absolutely agree, this war has turned out to be a waste. No pre-planning as to what might happen and the realization
    that the hearts and minds of these people is light years away, starting with a new generation. We and they do not understand each other and that is the first obstacle that no one has hurdled, with all the brains and technology available to us, we are simply walking in the same steps that the Soviet Union did. Not like we don't have anything to do. Iran is probably next and I am sick and tired of " freeing " countries, that don't appreciate our sacrifice nor pay us for the huge expenditures of time, money and warriors we give. Bring em home now.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
  75. tony

    I agree with the author. well said. what is our mission in Afghanistan? and if it is to defeat Taliban, that is not going to happen.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
  76. Melanie

    That is my opinion also. We need to get out of there NOW!! We got the man we were after, now it is time to leave.
    We do not need to be the world's "police". They hate us anyway. Get out of there. To save other money, we need to close ALOT of the bases we have all over the world.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
  77. Ted

    Karzai needs the money. He sees how America gives away trillions,,and is going bankrupt,so he wants to squeeze us for what ever he can get. It's sad because our leaders will give him all he wants and he knows it.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  78. Jennie Green

    Up until recently , I would have said that Obama was a shoe-in for re-election but his steadfast refusal to pull the troops out of Afghanistan, despite overwhelming public response to do so, is going to cost him in the polls dearly. I voted for him in 2008 but will not do so again unless he listens to the public and removes us from Afghanistan. We have made no headway in ten years. How will another year or two make a difference, especially since the Afghan citizens have made it clear they do not want us there? Rather than waste more America lives on nothing, we need to bring all the soldiers home from the Middle East, including the ones that they do not want us to know are still in Iraq, shore up this country and close our pockets.

    Am I biased in my thinking? Most certainly, I have one son there now and another due to go in May but I had the same thoughts on our involvement long before they joined the military.

    Wake up American politicians; it's time to get out!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  79. Timothy

    I was always told, if you do not feel welcomed, when you visit family or friends you kindly say thank you and leave. It all about oil.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  80. Glenn

    I agree 100%. I was in the Vietnam War and that was a big waste of people and treasure too. We never learn. I'm sure in the coming years another president will get us into another useless war.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  81. Ron Lambert


    Personally, I am of the opinion that if you go to war with a country, then you are entitled to use the resources of the conquered nation as you see fit. I guess I’m a bit traditional when I think of the term "war". However, since America is not conquering Afghanistan for its resources; traditional war thinking does not exactly apply as simply as it did for the Romans.

    Perhaps we should leave the people if Afghanistan to their own devices, unless we are willing to commit a total war against the entire population. I do not support such an action, therefore withdraw makes the most $ense. If the people there are not willing to oppose the Taliban, then they deserve the subjugation of crazy theocratic nomads armed with rocket propelled grenades.


    March 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  82. Steven C

    I guess most folks don't remember that a failed state in Afghanistan was the reason that Al Queda found roots and grew to become the monster we fight today. If Afghanistan returns to being a failed state, the Taliban will re-emerge as the dominant government and Al Queda will "come home" and we will see many more days like 9-11.

    2014 seems arbitrary but at least it gives a better chance for the Karzai government to get it's act together enough to resist the Taliban and Al Queda than withdrawing immediately.

    If we don't stay long enough, we will be back ... again ... and again ... and .... until we finally get it right.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:05 pm |
  83. Barbara Bowley

    I agree with you! It is time to pull all of our troops and not deploy any more! What will it take for the President to open his eyes and leave that country? Maybe his wife or one of his daughters should go – then maybe he would think differently.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:06 pm |
  84. Leta

    I can't really understand why US insist on staying in Afghanistan , isn't it obvious they don't like Americans.
    Think of the Americans killed, some very, very tired and can't think rationally, all the money spent, foreign aid
    at home there is huge economic problem which needs fixing.
    Withdraw right now, not a day longer!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  85. Greg Cannon

    The Aryans, Macedonians, Pathians, Persians, Mogols, British, and Soviets all learned the same lesson the hard way. We cannot win in Afganistan. It is a waste of life and resources to try.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:08 pm |
  86. bspurloc

    Osama was the MISSION. Obama changed focus BACK TO OSAMA unlike the previous dolt...
    it is time to leave.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  87. Jim - Blue Bell, PA

    Finally you ask a slam-dunk easy question. The answer is... there is no reason to be in Afghanistan, period! Let these people wallow in their primitive, pre-stone-age, civilization(?). I couldn't think of any people more deserving of the Taliban.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  88. Mr D

    Talk about a "cess pool." They say the world is a stage, well, we are appearing as "bad actors" on it without a real script to follow. It can only be downhill from now on. The final curtin has fallen.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  89. Thomas Henley

    With the GOA estimating the average soldier in Afghanistan costs 800,000 to 1.2 million to equip and maintain with most of that money going to private contractors in a war effort where practically everything is privatized there are sadly trillions of reasons to stay for corporate America.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
  90. charlie

    from Boston, MA (originally NYC but I'm in college)
    The core problem with afghanistan was our "nation-building" approach. Here was an approach that originated in post-WWII Europe with the Marshall Plan. These countries were very similar to the USA in terms of race, religion, government, culture, etc. They were our allies in a major war that we had just won. To think we can apply this to a country where we have not yet defeated the enemy and where most of the population is illiterate and very different from us is far fetched indeed. We should get out and change our strategy for dealing with terrorism. Staying just gives terrorists and insurgents material to use in propaganda against us, strengthening their argument. Time for us to leave.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
  91. Carrie from Seattle

    As I understood it, the point was supposed to be that we'd learned from past mistakes. This time, we weren't going to go in and turn Afghanistan all topsy turvy, spend a bunch of money, and then take off without putting it back together, thereby negating all our work and "effing it up in the endgame". I don't see, though, that we're achieving our intended goals. Rather, it seems we've found an all new and exciting way to "eff up our endgame".

    March 13, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
  92. Robert Dungan

    Were Afghan soldiers, overarmed and decked out as if on a moon mission, patrolling the hills of Appalachia in the guise of bringing me protection and democracy, I would become their mortal opponent regardless of good deeds and good intentions, much less in the face their arrogance and now murder.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
  93. Jerry Jacksonville, Fl.

    None, we need to get the hell out of area of the world where the caveman attitude is still the most important thing going. I agee with a friend that said the people in that region is about one half inch above the caveman in the way they act and live.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
  94. kevin

    We're there because of the taliban. I would prefer we use the military to eradicate this country of the AMERICAN taliban. You know, santorum, for instance.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
  95. ron Denver, CO

    Jack it is the huge war machine. American bombs and arms being sold and re sold keeping the American War machine alive for all the conservative war pundits and company profits. Throw in an oil pipeline for old Dick Cheneys group and that is why we are staying there Jack. It has nothing to do with Bin Laden or the Taliban. It is all the pentagon, private contractors, and the war profit at work at the expense of our young soldiers. Always has been and always will until we depart in another 10 years at another trillion dollars.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  96. Charles Bowen

    What do they expect to happen when you send our troops in deployment after deployment to a place that would make hades look like a paradise... Get out now and let the people of afghanistan have the fruits of their labor ... Bring them Home.......Charles Bowen Solomon Stone

    March 13, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  97. Todd McLean

    C'mon Jack, don' let history repeat itself! The US pulled out after the Soviets left, the country fell into chaos giving rise to the Taliban which lead to terrorist training camps and 911. The Afgan government is in a fragile state and a US withdrawal now would surely lead to their demise and resurgence of the Taliban. Then for sure one would ask what has been accomplished over the 10 years this whole mess began?

    Ontario Canada

    March 13, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
  98. Adam, Bethlehem, PA

    Well said Jack. Time to get the hell out there. You can't fix CRAZY!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:13 pm |
  99. pam

    Your exactly right. They hated us before, they hate us now, they will hate us 20 months from now.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
  100. Lewis in New Orleans

    At one time many years ago there was talk of a potential oil pipeline. The Soviets bought in and failed and then the United States bought in to this private industry boondoggle under the guise of catching Osama. We have failed also. Not much is left except the opium poppies. Are we now trying to protect the heroin industry?

    March 13, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
  101. Eugene in KY

    It amazes me, as a former military officer, that we continue to get bogged down in foreign interventions where we have no clear missiion artiiculated. And, after we leave, other countries seem to gain the most beneift in natural resources and other economic agreements. We need to get out of there, we need to pull the advisers that we have in Africa, we need a total review of all military resources we have committed around the globe and be sure we have a clear vision for why we are there. At this point, we are like the passenger on the airplane that's crashing, we need to put the oxygen mask on to save ourselves before we help others.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
  102. Jim

    Agree! Get out! Make it official and complete by 2013.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
  103. S

    Why is it that most Americans feel that these wars are a waste of time, energy, and human life except for the politicians who are willing to stay there merely to say, "Hey, at least we did not give up or fail." Yes we have made strides in breaking up terrorist organizations, but we should come to the realization or spread the message that terrorist activities are 95% in response to occupation, outside (westernized) influence, and entangling alliances or meddling in their politics. Why are we not viewing and treating others how they would like to be viewed and treated? These wars were designed to protect American interests, but our interest should be at home. Enough already, enough.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
  104. ken, atlantic city, nj

    There is no point in staying in afghanistan but obama the commander in chief will not pull the troops out. He wants to be tough and stupid at the same time. 10 billion a month is being wasted on president karzei a corrupt regime in afghanistan.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
  105. Jim

    Karzai won't ask us to leave sooner, because he will fall if we do. He needs the cash flow for him and his cronies. But if Karzai is overthrown, the Taliban or its reps will ask us to leave pronto.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
  106. Jeff

    So the CIA can control the heroin trade and to prevent another 911 from happening again although 99% of the people responsible for that one are dead. Not to mention saving the lives of the women who were educated in the last 10 years.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
  107. Ed from Colorado

    It is time for some nation building--ours. We need to get the troops out and concentrate on surgical Seal strikes and drone activity. We are certainly not winning hearts and minds, and we are not buying friendship. Enough is enough.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
  108. Tina from WI

    If we stay we are staying where we are clearly not wanted. If we go we are breaking our word to stay until we said we would. We can't win either way there.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
  109. Greg Cox of Bremerton, WA

    Amen, Jack, AMEN! A vast majority of Americans want us out of that region and it's hard to believe that the money we've spent there has done anything useful. In fact, if the Afghans want us there...and they've shown that they don't...they should be paying us $1 Billion a day. Our President, our Senators and our Congressman are simply fools by telling us that we should be there until 2014. We could be there until 2024 and they'd still resent our presence, hate our policies and we'd continue to throw money and American lives into a bottomless pit of. There is no amount of time, effort or money spent in that region that will ever benefit us. They don't want us there. We should leave ASAP.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
  110. Not an Obama Fan

    As a Vietnam era Veteran (1966-1969) I see disturbing similarities between our country's logic for staying in Afghan today, and for our reasons to go into Vietnam where over 55,000 American troops died. The US government told us that if we did not fight North Vietnamese communism, the South would fall and all of Southeast Asia would fall to communism like Dominoes. Well in Vietnam today, there are over 500 Dominoes - Dominoes Pizza parlors that is, and American tourists visit that safe and democratic country freely as Vietnam thrives as a free nation with no US military presence.

    The corrupt government in Afghan today survives only becasue of US guns behind him. That government will fall within 9 months of our leaving – whether we stay 9 more months, 9 more years, or 9 more decades. This is Obama's Vietnam. This is Obama's 9 -9 -9 plan

    March 13, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
  111. Robin Sloan

    Ah, Hah–this is the terrific Jack Cafferty who manned the ship @ WHO News in DesMoines, Iowa back in my day. Jackis dead-on correct about our soldiers over there for absolutely no good reason in Afghanistan. Aside from the Horrific events of murder and mayhem at the hands of one soldier–leave him behind when someone in office decides our time was up long ago, and it's time to come home. The Afghanis don't like the US, don't want us there, staying will surely bring about vengeful killing and bloodshed on the heads of our soldiers. Run, US, run, who doesn't get it?

    March 13, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
  112. Mark

    I have been in the military, on active duty, for the past 13 years. I am not sure what we are doing in Afghanistan anymore either. We are nation building a ungrateful nation. We are standing up a government that is hated by the people. People wonder what is wrong with service members who go and snap mentally. I say that they are a reflection of the US population. Maybe everyone is so tired of war, they think that going crazy will provide some sort of releif. I tell you, our government is so messed up, releif will not be found for any of us.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  113. riley oday

    The point of staying is for war profits. The American people have not said stop loud enough. Some polls show half of those surveyed believe we should be there. If you cant train and equip an army in ten years quit.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  114. PiedType

    There is no point, Jack. There hasn't been since the day bin Laden escaped into Pakistan. If it wasn't clear before the latest incident, it is now. The fat lady has sung. Get our troops out NOW.


    March 13, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  115. Adam, Bethlehem, PA

    Well said Jack. Time to leave now! When will the government learn, you can't fix CRAZY!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:19 pm |
  116. Wayne

    Do you think the rare earth metals may have something to do with staying?

    March 13, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
  117. Me

    I suspect the reason our troops are still there is that we have high unemployment here. Bringing all of the troops home (which is the responsible thing to do) would raise unemployment in an election year.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:20 pm |
  118. Jerry

    The United States, NATO, and all other troops should begin withdrawing from Afghanistan now with a complete withdrawl date by mid summer. The idea that a government can be 'instilled' into a population just because it is our concept is unfounded. History is riddled with examples where this has not worked and only cost lives, money, and respect. The United States, Europe, Russia, and China should reserve the right to bomb any country that sponsors terrorism and excercise that right without going through the useless joke we call the UN. Bombs are cheap compared to troops on the ground. The concept of 'humane war' is a joke. The bombings in England, Moscow, and Spain were all targeted against civilians. If we want to win the war on terrorism we need to act like the terrorists and kill civilians in the same way they target us. Kill enough of the population and they will depose their crazy leaders and armed gangs. When was the last time a picture of a Taliban soldier tending to a wounded child or building a road or feeding the hungry has been taken?

    March 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
  119. Mark in Houston

    I'm thinking elected officials need to take a course in Recent World History, and be required to pass a test over the same before being allowed to take office
    We repeatedly get involved in these conflicts where our success depends on some dysfunctional country becoming a shining light for Democracy with a self maintained military that can thwart any oppressor. Looking at some of the news stories coming out of Afghanistan I'm thinking we could substitute the name Vietnam in any number of places. We've learned nothing.

    The day after Osama was taken out we should have been packing up. We can't defeat a mind set.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
  120. jk in MN

    I thought when Bin Laden was eliminated, that was the time to say "Mission Accomplished" (Without landing on an Aircraft carrier) and begin the withdrawal of all the troops. No other country has succedded in "Nation building" there. The US won't either. It's time to nation build in our own country for a change.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
  121. Dave

    JACK don't you know? Bush and Obama said they are jealous of our freedom and democracy and just want to be like us.

    Dave, PA

    March 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  122. deborah ballweg Seibert, co

    None. Let them secure their own borders and we can secure ours. Their government is crooked and probably emboiled in terrorist activities. Its time we got out. In fact, when we got Bin Laden, that was the time for us to move.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  123. Teaparty01

    well Jack

    Even a blind pig can find a truffle once in a while. I afear you may be right in this one. What finally convinced me was the picture of the protesters above and the number of women in the protest group.

    Adios Amigo

    March 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  124. Jim

    Remember, this is "Obama's war." He pushed the surge (which started pulling out almost before the going in had been completed. He said all during the 2008 campaign, that the war in Afghanistan had been the "neglected" war, and where the forces needed to concentrate, rather than Iraq. After the initial punishment of a country that had harbored 911 terrorists, our job should have been done. For sure, the capture or killing of Osama bin Laden completed the (by then) too long a war. The very group (military) that still insists on staying longer has been the group that has destroyed our chances to "win the hearts and souls" of the Afghan people. When did an invading army ever win hearts and souls?

    March 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  125. Larry of Boston Massachusetts

    As a Vietnam era Veteran (1966-1969) I see disturbing similarities between our country's logic for staying in Afghan today, and for our reasons to go into Vietnam where over 55,000 American troops died. The US government told us that if we did not fight North Vietnamese communism, the South would fall and all of Southeast Asia would fall to communism like Dominoes. Well in Vietnam today, there are over 500 Dominoes – Dominoes Pizza parlors that is, and American tourists visit that safe and democratic country freely as Vietnam thrives as a free and peaceful nation with no US military presence.

    The corrupt government in Afghan today survives only becasue of US guns behind him. That government will fall within 9 months of our leaving – whether we stay 9 more months, 9 more years, or 9 more decades. This is Obama's Vietnam. This is Obama's 9 -9 -9 plan

    Jack, it is time to get the girls and boys out of harm's way and bring them all home - ALL of them. It is a fantasy that our government leaders hold when they think we are somehow safer by planting troops all over the world, and fighting in som many undeclared wars. As a chilling side note, Afghan's undeclared war has run longer than WW I and WW II combined, and those were global wars.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  126. mike halter

    Jack " There is no point. Being a Viet Nam vet 1970 to 71 i'm seeing the same thing all over again. A corrupt Gov. the Afgan troops have no stomach for the fight ahead no matter when we leave. And I belive the Taliban will retake the
    country within three year's after our departure.
    Michael Largo FL.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  127. Richard Ledford

    I've been asking that question for years.

    Orange, Massachusetts

    March 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  128. Dick

    Among other problems with this war, we are spending billions and yet reducing the funds for education, health care and many other essentials here at home. It does not make any sense. Let's get out in 2012!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
  129. ThoughtProcess

    Politics: If Obama pulled out now, the war would be labeled a "Loss" which would be pinned on him in an election year.
    Ending a war also puts people out of work. Most military spending is essentially a big jobs act. Last thing Obama wants this year is higher unemployment.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  130. C Anderson

    Not only have we have been in Afghanistan too long, we should never have been there in the first place. It's time they decided their own fate. Our major priorities are needed elsewhere. Any further presence there, regardless of how long, won't make that much difference. It's time to go!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
  131. Martha

    The entire middle east has been fighting between themselves and the world since the time of Christ. They want to fight and always will. If I were Prez, I'd have every one of our troops on the first plane home immediately. Ridiculous we went there at all.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
  132. Dick Petersen

    I agree wholeheartedly. Why are we in a country that not only hates us, but won't even apologize for or acknowledge their atrocities. Like you comment "Suddenly with his second term in doubt, my guess is he might decide to move up the timetable " not only for the withdrawal from Afganistan but he will rethink the Keystone pipeline decision. Whatever it takes to bolster his campaign.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
  133. John B. in Kansas

    Civilized Human Beings are not capable of coping with combat stresses for prolonged periods. It's time to leave. Let the Afgans fight each other. Drones and missiles can deal with the few who could truly threaten us.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
  134. Michael, from Smiths, Alabama

    While I agree to some extent that we have overstayed our welcome in Afghanistan, we still have a job to do there. If we leave before the Afghan militia have been fully prepared to take on the sole task of fighting the remnant Taliban/Al-Qaida..then everything we've accomplished since the immediate post 9/11 period is for nothing. I share people's reservations about continuing to keep our brave troops over there, but I would rather get the job done and bring the troops home in victory, then pull them out, and allow the Taliban to return in full force and essentially hand the US a major defeat.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
  135. Terry in Virginia

    If our mission was to get Bin Laden, it was accomplished - in Pakistan. Afghanistan? Iraq? Bush/Cheney wanted the oil and Congress went along with them. Thanks to their policies, our enemies in the Middle East have increased while our worst enemy is here at home - our elected officials who continue to use our troops as sacrificial pawns in a game with no defined mission except for what sound byte is good for that particular day. If it were their children on the front lines, these wars would never have started and Bin Laden would've been eliminated years earlier by the Seals IF getting Bin Laden had been the real mission.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:27 pm |
  136. Joe Young

    From Slippery Rock, PA

    Mr. Cafferty, I, too, am tired of war. I was in one, Isaac dead people. I would agree with you completely but for the girl I heard some time ago on CNN. She said, "Please don't go away, I like going to school." It isn't black and white, is it? EDIT: Isaac is I saw.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  137. Don Nagel

    The American people just don't seem to understand, WE are the "hated Infidel".Their Kouran tells them to convert us to Islam, or kill us. No Infidel invader is ever going to live in peace, occupying a Muslim nation. The blood of our sons and daughters is being spilled in vane!! How is it that Barack Obama refuses to realize this??
    How about we bring the troops home, now, alive, and send all those stuffed shirts and brass hats from the Pentagon over to settlel what ever issue they think is worth fighting about.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
  138. rosethornne

    There is no reason.
    Any possible goal was accomplished ten years ago, and we should have gotten out then.

    In my opinion, any politician agitating for further military presence in that region needs to be sent to the front lines.
    As long as higher 'ranked' individuals sit cozily farther away from the actual conflict, they will continue to create wars.

    If leaders had to, I don't know, perhaps..... LEAD, I'll betcha there'd be far fewer wars.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
  139. asdf

    With perhaps the exception of Benedict Arnold has the US ever had a worse General than Tommie Franks? He is why we are spending 13 years instead of 13 months in Afghanistan when due to incompetence he let Bin Laden escape Tora Bora in the first place (not to mention his lack of planning in Iraq after the initial invasion).

    March 13, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
  140. Jim Campbell, St. Paul, MN

    With all of their might, the Russians couldn't tame Afghanistan. We need to learn from experience, and leave post haste.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
  141. sandiegobeachbum

    Hey Jack, I know there have been several incidents lately involving our troops that are tragic and could have been avoided. That said, I'd like to hear Obama nd that corrupt Karzai get on TV and strongly CONDEMN the stinking, evil, cruel, murdering Talibums. For your information, Jack, the Talibums have killed thousands of INNOCENT women and kids the past several years. They have thrown acid on young girl's faces while walking to school. They have beheaded INNOCENT people and destroyed over 100 girl's schools. They permit 60 year old men to marry teenage girls. They are the lowest form of humanity on the planet. Let's see the ignorant population demonstrate against the senseless killings perpetrated by the cowardly Talibums for a change. I agree that Afghan is a cesspool and we need to get out now but let's leave no doubt how brutal and vicious the cowardly Talibums are. We need to remind everyone that what happened with this US soldier going crazy and killing women and kids happens every stinking day with the Talibums. Their suicide bombers and IED's kill INNOCENT people every day. Let's hear some strong language directed at these vicious animals for a change. Anyone out there who doesn't think Afghan is another Vietnam is nutier than a fruitcake in my opinion and I'm a highly decorated Vietnam Vet.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:31 pm |
  142. Kirk (Apple Valley, MN)

    The reason, allegedly, that Bush invaded Afghanistan was because the Taliban refused to hand over Osama bin Laden who was allegedly behind the 9/11 attacks on the United States. Well, President Obama in the form of SEAL Team 6 got bin Laden nearly a year ago. So why the heck are we still there? Anybody with any sense at all knows that as soon as we leave, the Taliban will take over once again anyway.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
  143. S. R. Whitmer

    If the President wants to get out, which any rational person would say he should, I have a quick way. Announce a military draft. You can rest assured that the American public will recoil at the thought of having young people drafted to go to Afghanistan. With that political cover, we can leave immediately.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
  144. Mr T

    Careful with your language jack, nobody asked the US to go to that "hellhole" the grissly attacks were commited by an American soldier. Why not leave you asked? The US left these same afghans to fend for themselves before when their interests were taken care of during the soviet invasion and now they will be forsaken again. These taliban were freedom fighters when they suited our interests, so please keep your condescending and holier than thou attitude all to yourself, american foreign affairs have been a godforsaken hellhole long before afghanistan ever was.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:34 pm |
  145. Larry Feierstein-Denver

    So it took a murder to come to this decision? How about we just get out , regroup, re troop and have a better policy of who we let into this country. Did I say profile? oh my. Finish this sentence, the majority of people who cause terrorist acts are................? Lets just beef up homeland security with our armed forces who are coming home? No more three tours, no more two tours.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
  146. diridi

    Get the troops out of that place. We do not need wars. We need money to build Roads, Airports, Rail Stations., etc, ok, GOP is crazy to think of Iran War....true.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
  147. Gary H. Boyd

    There isn't any Jack. We need to get the hell out and stay out.

    Gary in Scottsdale, Arizona

    March 13, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
  148. Burbank from CA

    I agree, time to get out. Even though it cannot possibly replace a loved one, pay the bereaved families a lordly sum each as an apology, buy the populace a hundred beautifully printed, hard back Korans for every one that was burned and then GET OUT! We also need to cut off all monetary aid to these countries that don't like us. I'm sick and tired of being forced to support the entire world on my aching middle class back!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
  149. Thom Richer

    There never was a "point" in being there. Even less than that now. These wars were instigated to make money for big business especially oil corporations and the Bush and Cheney cronies. Ten years of wasting lives and money and exploiting the American people by its own government while glorifying war. Never in history has there been a more successful propaganda machine than concocted by our media, military leaders, presidents, or Congress' than these past ten years of selling needless war to the people of America. This is an eternal war and will never be ended. We didn't belong there 10 years ago and we do not belong there now. To have started this war to begin with wronged the world. To stay one more day is a crime against humanity to the greatest degree. I believe in supporting the troops in all conflicts and wars and I do, but it is an injustice to send them to battle in unjustifiable wars such as these and continue to sacrifice them for over a decade and beyond without complete commitment and honorable motive for doing so.

    Thom Richer
    Negaunee, MI

    March 13, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
  150. Paul - North Carolina

    There never was any point to staying in Afghaistan. We should have gone in, wiped out the Taliban, killed Bin Laden and left in no more than a year. We could have too if Bush had done his job. But he let Osama slip through his inept fingers then went off to pursue his fantasies in Iraq. Afghanistan became a quagmire and George made no attempt to rectify that for the rest of his term. Sending in 40,000 more troops was the thing on which I disagree most with Obama. He should announce their withdrawl tomorrow and get all our troops out by Labor Day.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
  151. Scott Herman

    "Essentally combat is an expression of hostile feelings. But in the large-scale combat that we call war hostile feelings often have become merely hostile intentions. At any rate, there are usually no hostile feelings between individuals. Yet such emotions can never be completely absent from war. Modern wars are seldom fought without hatred between nations; this serves as a more or less substitute for the hatred between individuals. Even when there is no natural hatred and no animosity to start with, the fighting itself will stir up hostile feelings: violence committed on superior orders will stir up the desire for revenge and retaliation against the perpetrator rather than against the powers that ordered the action. It is only human (or animal, if you like), but it is a fact." von Clausewitz, On War, Book 2

    March 13, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  152. dk in ATL

    We are still in Afghanistan because President Obama decided to vindicate the democrats decade long position that we should have been focusing our war efforts on Afghanistan rather than Iraq (We all remember the arguments that Iraq didn't attack the USA, we shouldn't even be there, etc). President Obama supported and authorized the 2009 troop surge in Afghanistan, that is why we are still there. Too pull out now would make that argument and President Obama look foolish, which is not desirable prior to an election. I agree with all of you though...we should get out..the Taliban deals in years and decades and will wait out the USA, Russia or any other country that is intent on nation building in Afghanistan.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  153. Don Desaulniers (Belleville, Canada)

    Your preamble, Jack, sums up my feelings precisely.
    Sophisticated societies like America are simply not used to seeing or causing death and destruction, and the poor young souls they ship across the planet to carry out these costly useless wars soak up the horror like a sponge. Only the returning soldiers and their families can calculate the unintended consequences these foreign conflicts create.
    Just bring everyone home from Afghanistan by the end of June and watch as good things follow for both America and Afghanistan.

    March 13, 2012 at 4:55 pm |

    That's just it, Jack. There is no point. There never has been and there never will be. The people who think we should stay in Afghanistan are the people with the same mindset that cost 50,000 American lives in Vietnam!

    March 13, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
  155. Karen from Naples, FL

    The Soviets lost in Afghanistan after 10 years, it bankrupted them. Now the USA spends ten years there
    and we are now bankrupt. OMG, get out NOW, I'm for Ron Paul, spend it HERE, don't police the world!!!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
  156. jbird

    None of you at CNN seem to remember that the plan was revised for 2013. Why?! Give Obama credit!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
  157. Teresa

    could not agree more!!!!!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
  158. Ron Paul Supporter

    Mr. Cafferty, I agree with you 100%. If another country's army occupied the land where I live, desecrating our dead, burning Bibles, and mass murdering our women and children...the correct reaction would be righteous anger. These Afghanis have truly righteous anger at America right now. We should not be there. We should pull out – completely – right now.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
  159. David

    The point? There is no point. I just came from serving in that country, THERE IS NOTHING THERE.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
  160. Yuri from florida

    Jack. What is the point of having an army at times of relative peace? In the good old days army was called upon to defend the castle or land from invaders. Nowadays with billion dollar contracts... powers that be need to stay employed. Staying in Afganistan gives them that opportunity. Ohh... and Afganistan is rich in precious natural resources so do the math.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
  161. Mike Reilly

    It is shocking that a US Soldiers would simply snap and slaughter civilians (Mi Lai). It is un-imaginable that a young man under extreme stress fighting an enemy enmeshed with in the civilian population would snap this way (Mi Lai). We can take comfort however that this is a historically unique incident (Mi Lai). Entirely unpredictable and unpreventable (Mi Lai). No one could have possibly foreseen this tragedy coming (Mi Lai). Certainly no political or military leaders bear any responsibility for the actions of this solider (Mi Lai). I’m certain that with the proper apologies the US will be able to continue operations as normal without losing the trust of the Afghan population (Mi Lai).

    March 13, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  162. Gordon Keit

    What part of NOW don't you understand Jack?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  163. jeffrey

    Ironic, but your question provided the answer. What are we doing there?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  164. Evan from NY

    Afghanistan is and always has been the red herring. Eric Haney of Delta Force says himself that middle eastern terrorism is largely a Saudi Arabian machination. Destabilizing surrounding nations when you're the most resource-rich nation in the area is admittedly a pretty okay idea. Besides, it's the graveyard of civilizations. Alexander the Great failed to conquer it, and he didn't even have rules of engagement.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  165. Linda in Arizona

    We're not finished helping the Afghan people yet, Jack. I know they're grateful, but I'm certain if we stay we can do even more to build democracy, and then they will finally become as civilized as we are.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
  166. Gary

    Our (and NATO) presence in Afganistan is a Catch-22. It would certainly be beneficial in a host of ways to bring all troops home now. Assume, however, that Iran does get the bomb. Having a NATO presence in Afganistan would be of immense strategic value. Imagine a nuclear alliance of Taliban, Iran, and possibly Syria. Things would get really nasty. Especially since Iran is closely allied with Russia, just to the north. Is also my preference to see our troops all home now, but we would pay for it down the road.

    Don't like that argument?Then consider all the herion that will flood the world under Taliban rule.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  167. David

    The point? There is no point. I just came from serving in that country, THERE IS NOTHING THERE.
    Boston, MA

    March 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  168. Papa Joe

    Well said Jack but a better question is ... Why did we not learn from the lesson the Afghanistans taught the Russians? We are staying to prove a point? What point?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  169. Mike

    $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits it's always about the money !!!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  170. brandon h

    There is no point of staying in Afghanistan. Politicians in both parties support and oppose this undeclared war, so that's why nothing gets done. If it were up to the American public, we would have been out of that money pit years ago.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  171. Fritz Hohenheim

    There is no point, you know it, they have no oil, no minerals that we need, nothing,Terrorists dont need a country,all they need is a hole to plot the next attack. Those ninja guys we see training on the monkey bars, they attack other moslems, not us. There is absolutely no point other than to fuel Halliburton, Boeing and all the other defense companies with your taxpayer money.

    Jack, this was a really good question you brought up. The me4dia have a lot of power in these days. Maybe if CNN keeps pointing out the folly of this engagement, other news company will follow and put pressure on the president to get us out of that region. Let those people fight each other. It's not our business

    March 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  172. Daniel Bollag

    I love Obama but I am afraid if the war continues for 20 months, he will be guilty of crimes against humanity. What a terrible way to end his brilliant legacy.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  173. Tim

    You are correct, we need to leave Afghanistan. You think you've had a bellyful of it? The 1% or so of us who wear the uniform and our families have definitely had a bellyful and more.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  174. Cres from Florida

    Fighting the war on terror, terrorism or terrorists is one thing, trying to be the policemen of the world and nation
    building is something quite different. They don't apprectiate what we are trying to do FOR them, so let's just get
    out while the getting is good. If our politicians had any sense whatsoever of what's right and wrong or had
    their priorities in order, we would not waste another dollar or pay the cost of one more life.


    March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  175. Sharron

    It's time we got out of there and QUIT sending money over there. I'm sick of seeing American lives wasted on a country that hates us.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  176. nosa

    i dnt see any reason we still in afghanistan, coz its pretty stupid tryna be friends with people who cleary and visibly hates u, i think the president and his cabinets should work swiftly to bring the troops home and let afghan burn for all we care....

    March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  177. Tyler, WV

    Beats me!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  178. Jerry Jacksonville, Fl.

    None, the only thing that is accomplished is the defense contractors spend more money stuffing the pockets of the good old fat evangelical republicans so they will continue to push for more equipment and supplies to equip the troops fighting a bunch of cavemen over there in that worthless part of the world. Get us the hell out of there. The life of one American soldier is worth more than the entire middle east.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  179. Paul Tiffany

    We recently learned that the funds required to support the Afghan Army and Police that we are "training" is several times the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Afghanistan – totally unsustainable. Are we really winning hearts & minds? We have no reason to stay other than to continue to enrich the coffers of the arms manufacturers and keep up the price of oil to the advantage of numerous oil companies, especially Russian's.

    So, why are we still there?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  180. Name*Jerome Pass

    What difference does it make to you. When was the last time you had to make a decision that could cost lives. You make it sound like presidents make decisions like this for their own pleasure. They know things we don't.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  181. marcy from margate, florida

    Hey Jack,
    The point is we need to make the Military Complex rich.
    How are the 1% going to live if they do not take our
    tax money and our children to fight rediculous wars.
    We need to get green so we won't go to war for oil.
    If Obama wants to keep the war going, let him pick
    up an AK-47 and lead the troops.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  182. William Marlowe

    Enough is ENOUGH! Get the Hell out of Afghanistan and stop putting our troops in every conflict around the world as if we are supposed to be the World Police. I am so tired of Politicians starting wars and spending more money on the Industrial Military Complex than on Education, Health and actual improving the Human Existance.

    Why is we the people seem to have no say what so ever about what our government actually does?

    You are ABSOULTELY RIGHT Jack! Please speak out on this more as no one in government is listening to us the people and at least you have a voice. Thank you.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  183. Jamie, Glendale AZ

    Jack, the point of staying in Afghanistan is to protect China's mining contracts and the CIA's precious poppy fields, of course. We will stay because the top 1%, who manipulate the people to send their children to kill and be killed for theirs and their buddies profits, and who own both parties will make it so. The same people who have kept Dr. Ron Paul from winning any primaries through massive voter fraud.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  184. Dave

    I love how they are in an uproar over one person's actions. The Taliban is threatening us but when the terrorists mass murdered our innocents on 9/11/2011, what was their response? Oh yeah, it's ok because Americans are evil and the justified their actions.

    Karen-your right, let's fix the US before we try to fix others!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  185. Mark Lea

    We may have lost the opportunity to leave gracefully.. We should have left after Bin Laden was killed.It is like Jerry Seinfeld told George Costanza ... "Leave on a high note, George. Leave on a high note".

    March 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  186. Jim Glass

    It's simple. You are absolutely right. Although I'm guessing it's not quite that simple since we'd be abandoning all the overpaid contractors like XE, et al, if the real troops were pulled out.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  187. michelle in san francisco

    I believe most of us with a brain agree with you Jack. I say GET OUT OF IT right now, why wait. Other nations have tried that part of the world before and failed, isn't this enough of a lesson the U.S.?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  188. Duffy from Sanger, Ca

    Coporate America and the 1% are waiting with baited breath for the day they can move in to Afghanistan and rape it of its bevy of untapped rare minerals and natural resources, and will continue to push the White House and President Obama to continue this war until their collective wants are brought into fruition.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  189. Keith Travis

    The point is that if America go bankrupt from staying in this country we could use this as more leverage in borrowing more money from China to pay our gas bill.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  190. Marty from Michigan

    Jack,I've been a loyal Democrat for the past 20 years or so.But for the life of me,I can't figure out why on Earth President Obama insists on towing this line in Afganistan.With the exception of John McCain and a few other hard liners,there's no one else that thinks we should be there.This is quite possibly an issue that could weigh very heavily with voters this Fall.Lets Leave Now!!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  191. Ricky

    No point Jack..No point, I'm liberal minded person and want equality for all lives but I'm sick of Afghanistan, if these people don't want to help themselves, what's the point!!!!! Let them kill each other and protect our own border.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  192. Heber Paredes

    Absolutely no point of being there its absolutely ridiculous that our government spends so much of our taxes just so that we can walk around a country that hid Osama Bin Laden for so many years and didnt tell us anything. I blame the politicians that allow the people that pay for their campaigns to manipulate their decisions. They are the reason we are still in Afghanistan.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  193. jose villegas

    Is time to go home and leave Afghanistan alone with its own problems, economy and sectarian issues and go back to what is important right now, bring America back to its times of glory and honor our founding fathers by recover the republic from this red or blue bipartisan trash and cheap politics and base our goverment to serve the people not the other way around. That money spent in Afghanistan could be use train unemployed people to be ready for a job. Help the house market as well the prices of gas and commodity. All we need is unity...after all. All of us are Americans. God bless America

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  194. Skip G

    There is nothing this war has achieved that couldn't have been achieved without it.
    I have an 11 yr old grandson and he has never know America at peace. I wonder how he thinks a society should be judged ?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  195. Mragaret from Belleville

    We need Ron Paul more than ever. He seems to be the only "runner for president" who has had his fill of war.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  196. al from orlando

    Never mind the end. Who,s bright idea was it to follow the defeated Russians into that hell hole. President Obana did
    remove the killer responsible for 9/11. In respect to their fallen conrades, the military will leave at their own pace.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  197. Tim Donnelly

    I hate to agree with Ron Paul, it is time to leave and wasting away American lives.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  198. stillonline

    stillonline Seattle
    Where is General Saint Petraeus now that his "Miracle Afghanistan Surge" has failed? Oh yeah, he retired. We can thank Petraeus, Hillary and all the other Hawks for keeping us in Afghanistan. They overruled the novice President who wanted out two years ago. Obama got us out of Iraq in spite of the NEOCONS and their Super Pac Mans. He kept American soldiers out of Libya & Syria. I think he'll hold the line on Iran too.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  199. Bill Wimmer, Delaware

    Jack, I dont think the recent murder spree has anything to do with it and should not affect our decsion. I dont even know what our mission is there. The cost in American lives is reason enough to pull out. Kenny Rogers once song says
    "Know when to Hold 'Em, Know when to Fold "Em" Jack, it is time to Fold "em!!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  200. RJ, Overland Park

    Between the Quran burnings, the riots and deaths that went with that, and this latest atrocity, there's no more chance of winning "hearts and minds", there's no more point in trying "nation-building" over there. And the American republic can no longer afford the costs of empire. Time to bring our boys home. Past time, probably.

    If we stay any longer, I might start believing the conspiracy theorists who think we're over there to make oil profiteers or military contractors or somebody rich.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  201. Sam from Clearwater Florida

    Why are we still there? Nothing comes to mind. America must realize that just because Democracy works for us, it won't work for everyone. To remove the Talaban or Al-Queda? Al-Queada can't stand on its own two feet, their leaders are dead and they've seemed to just lay down and die. The only thing fueling the Talaban is America's Occupation. Troops over there seem to not care anymore, sooner or later this will turn into this generation's Vietnam, in fact, I believe this may be the beginning.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  202. Jon

    And yet three years ago, Jack, you undoubtably would have called any attempt to abandon Afghanistan "cutting and running." Funny how things change, huh?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  203. janet herold

    Afganistan is going nowhere and has been nowhere and all through its history has been a country full of turmoil and hate. We were there for Osama, he's gone so there is no reason to be there now and spill our blood in a country that has no appreciation for us being there. We must pull out soon, just enough time to get the ships and planes over there to get our troops home. The mideast is a ticking time bomb, do we have to be the ones to light the fuse????????

    March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  204. Sultana

    How else will the US keep an eye on the real targets, Iran, China, Russia and Pakistan? It's a strategic point for the US! And Cafferty, as an Afghan American, your comment about "this hell hole" offends me but you are correct in how would the US feel if some other occupying force did that to the U S??

    March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  205. Mo in Atlanta

    You should not be surprised when you train people to kill and they kill. The military gets whatever it wants in this country while millions go hungry and homeless. And the military is full of people who have been trained to kill.

    Marvin Gaye said it best when he said "rockets -moonshots.... Spend it on the havenots."

    Makes me wanna holler.....

    March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  206. Pete in Florida

    Correction, Jack – it's no longer the Military-Industrial Complex that controls our government, it's now the MIP, the Military-Industrial-Political Complex.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  207. Renardo Weathersby

    I don't know Jack, ask Senator McCain and the warmongering GOP!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  208. Lynn -Montgomery, TX

    Oh AMEN! Get the troops outta there! We have reason to be there, our presence is not achieving anything (that I can tell) except to inflame the locals. Our troops are being stressed to their limits and yet being redeployed to another battle theater. Bring them all home so they can be healed.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  209. Jonathan in California

    I think there is no point in staying in afghanistan because the people there hate us and the United States has not been able to get rid of the terrorist there anyway.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  210. Jamie

    I just had enough. My son is in Aghanistan supposely with the mission to train police afghanis there. There is no way we can win a war or have the means to be the world police. The mission. what mission by the way?? I am sick of Obama and his pro-muslim policy, sick of General Allen and sick of Panetta the majpr incompetent of the three stooges. Enough of politicians and military guys who in order to keep a job or a purpose send our kids to war. I will vote for whoever gets out of wars, not for the one who diverts to economy issues. We need a patriot leader, not a wishy washy flip flop intellectual or rich guy.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  211. Jerry Nichols

    Afghanistan was first invaded in 330BC by Alexander the Great. It didn't work out for him then, and has never worked out for any of the numerous invaders since! We never should have gone there in the first place and we need to leave them to their barbaric practices as soon as possible.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  212. Chris Cloney

    Truth. Straight talk. Clarity. Good job, Jack. Keep it coming. Our "leaders" don't listen but one can hope they can't ignore the angry noises coming from the voting booth.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  213. Sam Butler

    Mr. Cafferty, you have hit the nail right on the head. The American people have no vote in this debacle just as we had no say in Iraq. I have wondered for a long time what else has to happen to convince those in charge that we should leave. It looks like none of the recent events convince our so called leaders we are wasting our lives for nothing.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  214. roger from mich.

    If our troups return home unemployment will increase.and GDP will shrink. Also the CIA must insure a steady supply of opium poppies.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  215. Brian, Grand Rapids, MI

    That is a question that I have pondered for 10 years. Why are we in these countries, wasting our money and resources, to countries that are more corrupt, than our own. They dont want us their, and we give them money and have no idea where it goes. It is ridiculous and the problem is, Iran is next. Newt, Romney, Santorum and Obama, all will go into Iran, on the drop of a hat. This is why Ron Paul is the only viable president. We can't continue to over expand our military and debt ceiling. This is how countries become weaker and more vulnarable. It seems pretty obvious to most people I know, you can't stay at war for over 10 years, but our president's and congress, seem to enjoy war.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  216. Steven Grant stratford

    YES!!! We should have left Afghanistan long ago. We got Bin Laden already, and there are less than 30 Al Quida left in Afghanistanm. What is the point? Why should we be "rebuilding" Aghanistan, when our own country's infastructure is rapidly deteriorating? And, they don't even have any oil for us to steal!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  217. Rick

    First of all will someone tell me when did those inhuman animals called the Taliban actually stop beheading Americans? So what's new about that threat? In reality our welcome was long overstayed years ago. You cannot rebuild what is unbuildable. The transformation of a nation has to begin in the heart and soul of its people. We have seen our desire for this but not fully in the eyes of the Afghans or its leaders. Its more like status quoe, show me the money and pretend to reform and transform. The Talliban will never relent nor ever run out of crazy nuts to fill it's ranks and bring terror upon the Afghans and will surely remain viable until our last day there even if it is 10 more years down the road.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  218. Lou Szari

    ublican politics going in, Dempcratic politics coming out, American bodies stuffed in between.
    Politics/life and death as usual.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  219. Holly Carroll

    Dear Mr. Cafferty:
    CNN folk proudly say "all we want is the truth!" Ha! I'm ashamed of you. First, Afghanistan was and is a NATO mission – NOT a US mission. The US abandoned Afghanistan to start a war in Iraq. Now that we are finally back doing what we should have been doing in the first place, you are more than willing to allow one very sick soldier to derail everything, including our integrity. I have almost not heard one word from CNN that exhibits any compassion for the people and their families who were brutally attacked and/or murdered in their beds. We should be doing everything we can to alleviate their pain; not bellyache that we should not be there in the first place!

    Respectfully submitted,

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  220. Phil in Memphis

    Jack I couldn't agree with you more. What's the point!. Nobody there likes us and we are spending millions every year. For what? Time to bring our troops home and tackle our own problems. I really get ticked when I hear guys like McCain say we need to be involved in Syria too . Wake up and smell the coffee folks . We need to take care of oursleves first and the maybe just maybe we can babysit the rest of world.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  221. Michael in Ames, IA

    I could understand staying if we were promoting peace with peace. I believe it was Tom Brokaw who while over there he spoke to a merchant who simply said, "We don't need more men with guns telling us what to do." when asked his feelings of America's presence in the region. Even if we could completely eliminate the Taliban, which I doubt, that will not magically give Afghanistan better economic, health, educational, and political systems. We in conjunction with the people of Afghanistan should just start building, teaching, and healing. Lead by example.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  222. Dave

    As a veteran, to say that I feel your frustration would be an understatement. I honestly believe that at this point what keeps us in Afghanistan is the same thing that keeps us in every country we go to war with long past our welcome. We are too connected to what happens in these countries to ignore the devastation we leave in our wake and as Americans have too big a collective heart to do nothing about it. We keep shouldering additional responsibilities there because we don't know how to just say enough already.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  223. David in Wichita, ks.

    The only point I see is the prevention of another 9/11, but that being said, the Taliban would hve been defeated a long time ago if the military wasn't hijacked to a worthless war in Iraq.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  224. Kevin in CA

    To help distract the Taliban from the Chinese rare earth mining operations?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  225. Pathik Desai

    There is no point staying in Afghanistan. The United States is not welcome there. Yes, our politicians say that we are occupying Afghanistan to fight the Taliban and destroy terrorism but look at it from the Afghani perspective. We consider George Washington a hero since he was our first president and he fought the British who were occupying the United States. Aren't the Afghani people doing the same thing as George Washington? Are they not protecting their women and children by fighting the US forces that are occupying their country ? So why are these people considered terrorists and George Washington a hero?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  226. Gabriel from NJ

    When something doesn't make sense I've heard people say, "follow the money" and soon thereafter you'll see it will.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  227. Jim - Washington State

    In light of the current events, along with the rampant corruption, lack of cooperation and plain difference in point of view, there is absolutely NO point maintaining the current mission. What you are witnessing is the consequence of a "great event coordinator" running the United States of America. His repeated flip-flopping demonstrates a clear lack of direction and understanding. Our "on-going" military operations are just the latest to be in the spotlight. Can you imagine what would have happened if FDR had prosecuted WW 2 like President Obama has his war? We'd still be sailing around Midway looking for Japanese ships.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  228. Cam

    The answer is simple. We are setting up security forces to prevent an inevitable civil war once we are gone. I think people need to realize this is "another Vietnam" and there is little we can do to fix things. Obama is trying to prevent a vietnam style exit strategy and all we can do is hope it goes well.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  229. Steve

    C'mon Jack...have a heart...how else are Halliburton and all the private security forces going to make a living if we get out of there too early. As Forrest Gump said, they all need to be gazillionaires before we can get out. And, of course, they'll "donate" a lot of that money to our esteemed elected officials in Washington because they care so much about their constituents!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  230. Kathy Colorado

    It makes no difference if we leave in 3 months or three years. The Taliban are already there. We have been used, to feed them and keep them healthy, arm them and build what ever they will need to use against us when we leave.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  231. Mark, Centerport, L.I., NY

    Not one dollar more to Obama's campaign or to the Democrats until we pull out of Afghanistan. Enough is enough.
    President Eisenhower's parting comments regarding the military industrial complex have turned out to be a terrible
    prediction of things to come. Obama, snap out of it! Disgruntled and disgusted lifelong Democrat.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  232. Jack - Lancaster, Ohio

    Mr. Cafferty:

    It is painfully clear that decisions to go to war ,after war, after war hoping to eventually win one is another example of insanity, like voting for better government apparently. Thus it is pointless brutal policy for the benefit of the richest capitalists, politicians and insiders who families are insulated by this wealth from military service dangers. It is deplorable and dangerous.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  233. Edward McEvoy

    Leaving a country we have invaded is perceived as a sign of weakness. Therefore, we find it politically nearly impossible to leave.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  234. scott

    Im tired of you Jack...if the president had made Afghanistan into Fort Lauderdale you would complain...if he had pulled out on inauguration day you would of called him a coward...you are a republican and cant help the hypocrisy...I understand completely. Having said that...heck yes we should get out 5 years ago.I think we have tried to do the honorable thing as a country in Afghanistan,in a place where there is very little honor.Bring them home,and punish the pissers and murderers...hnr the rest and vast majority of them....and lets move on.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  235. Beth

    Yes, let's get out of Afghanistan. And after. . .Is isolationism such a bad thing? Let another country take the lead. Have at it. If we do have a direct attack against us, do what Obama did with Bin Laden–go covert. Spend less money on a reduced military, more on intelligence. It's the 21st century, the world and the U.S. (to say nothing of the three Republican candidates) are still responding with a 12th century mentality, and for what? Bragging rights? Really?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  236. Lisa from Texas

    Why did George W. Bush authorize invasion and occupation of Afghanistan without a CLEAR OBTAINABLE OBJECTIVE??? Everyone wants to blame Obama for the current state of affairs and that is just NOT correct! Don't get me wrong – I voted for Bush, but he got us into two wars that he couldn't win. For one reason or another, Bush's decisions kept us in these long and costly wars. I personally cannot believe that we never got close enough to get Bin Laden while Bush was in office; 'better the devil you know'... Staying in Afghanistan is probably not going to gain anything further for the US, but by the same token, we have made some progress – schools, a small (very small) women's rights gain, and, at the very least – being there has brought the world's attention to the injustice that is being done to so many people in the name of Religion. Then, there is the vacuum effect of removal of stability. I would applaude Obama for pulling out tomorrow, but I don't think it is reasonable or in the best interest of the Afghan government or people.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  237. Brandon from Connecticut

    There is no logical point of being there, just as there is no logical point of involving our military anywhere in the world right now. Politicians from both parties support and oppose this undeclared war, so that's why nothing gets done. If it were actually up to the American people, we would've been out of that money pit years ago.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  238. Mike Norwood

    Never have I agreed with a news commentator more than with Jack Cafferty on the subject of Afghanistan. It is WAY past time for us to leave. I'll wager that not more than 4 in 10 Americans can find that country on a globe and not more than 1 in 10 give a rip about the place. Unfortunately, since this is another undeclared war, we, The People, have no input in the matter and no-one to listen to our objections; not the President, not the Supreme Court and not Congress.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  239. Ryan, Salt Lake City

    I remember the justification for going to war was going after Bin Laden, apparently our government has forgotten that. The people of Afghanistan do not want us there and the American people are tired of sending our troops there to die for a "mission" with no clear objective. Bring our men and women in uniform home and start putting those billions of dollars spent in futility to better use.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  240. Sean, Roseville, CA

    Jack, you're starting to sound like Ron Paul. And i think you're both absolutely right about there being too many wars. There is no point of staying in Afghanistan one more day. Afghans will still hate our guts and Osama Bin Laden will, no doubt, be replaced. So, what's the point? The mission has been accomplished as much as it's going to be, but i'm just an American citizen on the outside of it all, so what do i know?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  241. Jerry Mund, Appleton, WI

    Jack: We'll be out within the next six months. Obama will time it to take the maximum political advantage. What a resume to take into November. We got Osama Bin Ladin, saved the auto industry and ended two wars.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  242. Ruth, Peshtigo, Wi.

    What spoiled people we Americans are. Americans are upset about gas prices but o.k. with these wars going on & on. As long as it's someone elses loved ones that were sent volundarily. Bring back the draft and these wars would end overnight or never start.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  243. Kathy Humphrey, Watervile WA

    We are in Afghanistan because we need their world class supply of lithium for electric car batteries. No other reason. They have the world's largest supply, we have none. Bolivia has a large supply, but South Korea has it tied up.
    Forget the other hype, we're there to for our own greedy needs.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  244. veronyca

    There is no point except to waste more money that republicans claims they want to reserve to cut spending. Granted when they come home that will be more people to add to unemployment numbers but at least the money will used else where. Like creating jobs? But perhaps a business plan & investers is the only way to solve our jobs crisis.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  245. Vir Kashmiri

    I admire you for what you said Jack in regard to this situation. This is America. This should be America. Please bring troops back and out of Afghanistan. Restore them dignity & peace. Restore dignity & peace to America.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  246. Name*fernando

    Yes osama bin laden is dead i say weve finished what we came for. We killed the person who wanted to kill americans so there is no point in staying. They hate our guts for what has transpired here. Fernando- dallas

    March 13, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  247. Brian Samuels (Chicago)

    Obama needs to speed up the timetable to withdraw. However, the media and the Republicans need to give Obama a pass on how Afghanistan turns out. He is doing what he said he would do by ending both wars responsibly. But the rhetoric of 'cutting and running', should be curbed. Especially the rhetoric of 'wasting the lives of American soldiers', and 'losing the war'. We need to be patriotic and not use this as a political football to beat Obama over the head with. He didn't start this war, he just has to end it.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  248. Hugh Edsall, St. Augustine, FL

    I agree totally with Jacks comment. There needs to be a bipartisan action in congress asking the president to bring all our troops and other personnel home. He said this was should never have been declared, and now he needs to end it. Our remaining there is an international disgrace.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  249. Jon from California

    I assume our current mission is to get out without the current Afgan leadership losing control- based on current events it looks like our mission would be best served by leaving sooner than later. We will never win the hearts and minds of the Afgan people – long past the time to cut our loses.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  250. Tate Jerrell from W.V.

    Your absolutely right Jack bring are boys home.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  251. Benjamin From St. Louis, MO

    Three reasons, Mr. Cafferty: Consistency, Iran, and China. The Democrats always advocated properly finishing the job in Afghanistan, so now we stay. The Islamic Republic of Iran is edging the US closer to backing up our sanctions with force, so we stay. And perhaps most importantly in the long run, the Afghans are sitting on one trillion dollars of some of the rarest mineral deposits on the face of the Earth. China is eying them, and therefore, we will stay.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  252. Chris In Houston

    There is no point other than to save face. We went in to get Osama and we got him, now if we just pull out we lose face to the Taliban as they would say they ran us out of the country, they won. Sadly, they have already won because we should not be there anymore anyways. As soon as we leave, the Karsi Gov. will fall, the Taliban will move back in and it will be the same as it was 12 years ago. We just need to leave them to their fate, they dont want democracy, dont know how to acomplish it so why should we continue bothering with it.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  253. Valleri

    I come from a family that has had at least one family member in the Armed Services for 4 generations. I am not anti- military. However, I'm old enough to remember being in the fight to end our involvement in Vietnam. This mess in Afghanistan reminds me of what we experienced then. It is pointless and always has been.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  254. Julie, San Francisco Bay Area

    I am as angry as hell at our government. What are we doing there? I voted for Obama to get us out of the Middle East once & for all. I hope the president takes notice & gets our troops out of there pronto! He has to see that this is the sort of thing that happens when soldiers are put in the worse awful environments on earth for a prolonged period. If even the slightest bit of retaliation occurs over there, I'm switching parties – and voting for RON PAUL.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  255. Don

    Even without the horrible murders that appear to have just occurred at the hands of a US soldier, I agree that we should leave Afghanistan sooner, rather than later. Any people need to decide for themselves at some point what form of government they want and must be willing to die to achieve it. Recall that the French sent troops to the US to help us win our freedom from the British. While they had their reasons for wanting to fight the British on a foreign land, at the end of the day we as Americans had to fight and die for what we wanted to achieve. If Afghans want some form of democracy, they must stand up and fight for it, and I am not seeing that. There is a very good likelihood that after we leave (a month or 10 years from now) Afghanistan will fall back under the control of the taliban / al qaeda, and they'll attack us again, and we'll have to fight them allover again, but no need to stay there now. As the most powerful nation in the world, I believe that we have a moral obligation to help others who are oppressed and who really want to achieve democracy, but we need to see that they want it more for themselves than we want it for them.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  256. Fernando

    There was never any solid reason for our high priced invasions of Afghanistan or Iraq. Bush 2's response to 9/11 was old school. Led by Rumsfeld and Cheney our foreign policy responded to terrorism with conventional World War II and cold war style large scale warfare. It was an approach destined to fail. As continued by President Obama the policy has continued but has been far more successful simply because it has been downscaled. Real world results and objectives have been the result of the application of special forces, drone attacks and other hit-and-run approaches. You don't fight a fly with artillery – you get a flyswatter. And as anyone who has read the Art of War can assert: long term armed occupation of hostile territory achieves nothing but a negative outcome.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  257. L I Huntsville, AL

    The point? There is none... we went in search of one man and guess what... we found him somewhere else. Why are will still there after the video of those disgusting Marines? Why are we there after those soldiers burned those Qurans? And now this rampage. We are still underestimating these people and what they are capable of. The longer we stay, the hotter the fire gets... and we are eventually going to bring another firestorm down own our own heads. Bring our troops home. Hold the ones accountable who have acted out of cruelty. As for that soldier who went on a rampage.... let the Afghan government handle him. If a citizen of Afghanistan shot 1 person here (much less 16 people) we would want him to stand in our courts. I love America but we are unfair more times than not

    March 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  258. steve

    Jack even though these incidents are unfornated but have happen, the people there are not on our side. We got out of Iraq peacefully, we may have to fight our way out of this situtation that we are in.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  259. Maureen Miller

    I am sick to death with idiots in Government trying to make a country like Afghanistan "civilized". Osama Bin Laden is DEAD. The Afghans have their own way of life and it certainly is NOT like ours. Women are second class citizens and are treated very badly, and it will not change. For God's sake get our troops out of there and let the Afghans deal with the Taliban or not.
    Saudi is the most dangerous place, as the US thinks they are our friends. They are NOT our friends, and are happy to see the US fighting all around them. Let the US troops die, the Saudi's do not have to lift a finger. Over 90% of the scum that devastated this country on 9/11 were Saudi.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  260. Gary

    Yeah, let's go home for now. I think we've kinda worn out our welcome. The Afghan government will just have to stand on its own two feet or fail.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  261. John

    What are we doing in Afghanistan? Hell, Jack I can't even figure out what we're doing in Wisconsin and I live there!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  262. Anthony

    There was nothing in Afghanistan in the inception. Remember, we "WON" the war until our last President decided to initiate a war of convenience and diverted the military resources to Iraq. When President Obama got into office he had no choice since the military generals were begging for boots on the ground. This President is not living or fighting in Afghanistan so he relies on the generals to give him updates of the war. Of course they want no change as it means their own surivability. It is a mess all over!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  263. Randy in PA

    If every American citizen were to write their Congressman and Senator that if they vote to fund the war in Afghanistan beyond November, 2012, they will find themselves in the unemployment line. Think our men and womwen would be home by Christmas?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  264. Name*kel

    As a former Marine, I see no valid reason to keep our troops in harms way. Our president keeps appologising to the puppet Karzi, but Karzi has never seen fit to return the reply. No mission means no valid reason to keep letting our brave men and women get killed and maimed. Semper Fi

    March 13, 2012 at 5:28 pm |
  265. Dave in Indiana

    The late, GREAT John Lennon had it right, didn't he? "Give peace a chance." For God's sake, pull our forces out and get them all home by Christmas! Afghanistan is the outside edge of the planet.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  266. Mike in Miami

    It is nothing less than stupid and/or intellectually dishonest for the President of the USA to enthusiastically state that American military forces will stay in Afghanistan until we have completed our mission in Afghanistan when neither the President nor anyone else can define that mission in words that a person of normal intelligence can understand. How can we know whether the mission has been accomplished if we don't know what the mission is? If American troops started leaving Afghanistan tomorrow morning it wouldn't be too soon.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  267. Sal

    Let's get out of Afghanistan now, not 2014, but now! At least I email Obama every day telling him to get us out of there! Have any of you people in here did the same? Don't just complain in this blog to each other, send emails to Obama and tell him to get us out of Afghanistan now! Don't just talk about it in here, do something about, for all the good it will do, but at least try! 

    March 13, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  268. Beth

    If they rioted and killed over the burning of the quaran, how do you think they will react to the massacre? I for one am for immediate withdrawal of our troops from all over the world. We are spreading ourselves thin and now we want to attack Iran? Let israel do it. And if we would quit sending their enemies money, there wouldn't be an issue. Educate yourselves America, the wool is being pulled over your eyes while their hands are in your pocket taking the fruits of your labor. They are spending it on their interests not yours. Bringing all military home along with their paychecks would mean instant stimulus for our economy. Its a win win.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  269. Kevin in CA

    Aaahhh ... to see if we can add the United States to the long list of those thrown on to the "Scrap heap of Empires" aka Afghanistan.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  270. Allen

    I'm a very loyal and patriotic veteran. However in my opinion no president is at fault for Afghanistan, it is our military leadership that has let us down. It’s not the first time either. They use up our kids for personal gain in my opinion. Their "advice" to the President is shaded by a life-time career of office politics and fanny kissing. They feather their beds with their “advice”. We are becoming a nation of PTSD afflicted nutcases living under bridges. Just look at how our military have been treating our young women service members! It’s disgusting. I agree with you we should just leave Afghanistan and stop wasting our human and financial treasure.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
  271. handleTheTruth

    Bush signed a secret 5 trillion contract with haliburton that obama can not terminate, understand?

    March 13, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
  272. Tom T.

    My son just returned from a one year tour of Afghanistan, ( unharmed thank God ) telling of the waste of time and money being spent there. The moral of our proud men and women is sinking every day. He says we are not fighting an army! The brave soldiers are being killed or wounded by snipers, IUD's or suicide bombers! They are fighting an unseen enemy in their land and on their terms. You would have thought we would have learned from Viet Nam, but we have not. Do not waste one more American drop of blood there.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  273. Tonia Curtis

    Jack, Jack Jack,

    It's become CLEAR that the American people have no say in what goes on in Washington D.C.
    Let's call it what it is- a piss poor attempt at trying to "secure" our country from the evil around the world.

    Good luck with the MASSES of other countries that also HATE us but no longer have the ability to harm us!

    Our country's motto should be:
    "America. . . you step on our toes, we occupy you for the rest of your great great grandchildrens' lives!"

    March 13, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  274. Larry Laird

    Afghanistan is the Keystone between Pakistan and Iran. It's also the other border with Iran opposite of Israel.
    It's a strategic military country. The neocons already have the next war planned.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
  275. jerry

    Sometime last year I read that they did a survey of the minerals that were found in the mountains in Afghanistan. One of the things they found was what we need for our lithium-ion batteries for our cell phones and hybrid autos. American companies want to control the mining operations in the mountains of Afghanistan. We are there to steal the resources from the Afghan people. We were in Iraq for control of the oil. Afghanistan does't have oil, but it has other things that we need. Always follow the money.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
  276. Starr Gilmartin

    Thank you for daring to speak the truth on the Military Industrial Complex and it's role in maintaining our seemingly ever present and ever expanding military footprint on the backs of citizens worldwide. Many of us having been asking why we are in Afghanistan since the beginning and haven't heard a cogent, rational argument for what has amounted to destruction of a country and it's people. Bring our War Dollars Home to our communities is a campaign that does make rational sense and has the potential for enhancing a civilization not destroying it. Thank you for not just being a stenographer to the military industrial complex and being a representative voice in the wilderness! It is so welcome!!!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
  277. woodrow

    Reminds me of that old saying, 'keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.' Now we have both friends and enemies in Afghanistan. Taliban=enemy, and Afghans=friends. This insane soldier really fouled up all the work we did over there. It's amazing how one crazy man can sink years of work.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  278. David Sweeney

    David Sweeney, Ky.

    Jack, you made all the good points for leaving Afghanistan. There is no point for staying longer.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  279. Bob in Kentucky

    There is certainly no point in staying now. We should never fight a war that drags on for over 10 years with no end or goal in sight. I saw too much of this method during the Vietnam War. " Vietnamization" of that war didn't work, and I doubt that "Afghanistanation" of this war will fare any better. As a taxpayer and voter, I would rather see us boost the budget of special operations forces, and use surgical strikes to take out the bad guys who are plotting future attacks on our homeland. No more wars with inadequate numbers of troops who must do multiple combat tours.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  280. fernando from dallas

    There is no point in staying in that god forsaken country. Osama bin laden is dead so our job is done. Leave the rest to the afgan millitary. why should we risk our soldiers for people who now hate our gus

    March 13, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
  281. Mike

    Jack I'm 57 and I've been pointing out to all my children that it seems that America has been fighting someone almost all my life. I remember when this rendition of the mid east fighting starting with secretary Colen Powell standing before the UN with his laser pointer telling the world that this is we're the WMD is. How many dead for that error. Then when we were running out of things there so it was onto Afghanistan so we could be part of more death. I don't consider myself a dove but does a hawk mean never ending fighting?
    Consider if you lived in a neighborhood that had a family that was fight all the time , and one day one of your own children said that that he/she wanted permission to go and play with them. Would you allow it or would you perhaps say not that household play with any of the other households that isn't always fighting somebody.
    After listening to your comments put me in with the get the hell out and don't go back crowd

    March 13, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
  282. Tonia from Selma, North Carolina

    Oh Jack. . .

    Yes, it's become quite CLEAR that the American people have NO say as to what goes on in Washington D.C.
    Let's call it what it is- a piss poor attempt at trying to "secure" our country from the evil around the world.


    The motto of the USA:
    "America. . . step on our toes, we occupy you for the rest of your great great grandchildrens' lives!"

    March 13, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  283. D.Lewis Baltimore

    First of all we should have never been there. I feel that former President Bush should have given the apology to to the Afgans, not President Obama. It's time to bring our Military HOME!!!! Semper Fi to all of my fellow MARINES.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:39 pm |
  284. Hector

    There is no Point...U.S. needs to say Enough is Enough..and get out..

    March 13, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
  285. Will E

    As a U.S. Marine who spent 7 months fighting in Afghanistan, I can say from first hand experience that there is no mission over there.

    Our "mission" was to kill Taliban and help the populace, noble goals but never-ending with no end state and no way to measure success. Our presence creates more enemies than we kill. On my team's final mission 2 young boys told us that when they grow up they will kill us, drive us out like they did the British and the Soviets. Some hearts and minds campaign.

    Being nice to people in hopes that they won't hate you and killing a never ending stream of bad people is not strategy, it's absurd. It's not worth seeing your best friends suffer and die in the mud. One Afghan elder, when we asked him how we could help, simply responded... "You can leave."

    March 13, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
  286. Allen

    Afghanistan has been a total waste of time. Nothing Nothing Nothing has been accomplished.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
  287. John Zachary, LA

    We'll accomplish exactly the same thing the former Soviet Union accomplished just as many others have failed over the past 2000 years. Glad to see you remembered President Eisenhower's warning about the "military industrial complex" Too bad Lyndon Johnson, George W bush, and now Obama didn't listen. Maybe there is still a phantom RED Army out there.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
  288. Bennett

    Leave Afghanistan now

    March 13, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
  289. Sal

    The concern to stay in Afghanistan is to keep the Taliban out! That is mission impossible because between the Taliban freaks and Al queda freaks, there is no end to them. They are all over the place, Somalia, Yemen, Sudan, and we can't kill them all. The time is now to get out of Afghanistan!. Don't just talk about it, but email the President and let your views be known! At least we have to try to affect change if nothing else. 

    March 13, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
  290. Jake in Omaha

    Declare victory and leave today.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
  291. steve

    This is 100% Obama's war. you liberals say that the gop likes war. Obama campaigned in 2008 that we should be in afghanistan not iraq. What about Libya. Obama seems to love to start wars. The problem with Liberals is they are LIARS.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  292. J.E.Verrone

    Jack, You're so cute! Ilove you. These questions and especially this one is so I guess no brainer , I just guess I'll have to tell you, WHaaaaaat! We don't need to be in Afganistan, we don't belong there and we need to bring our troops home and the Japanese say "save face". As a granddaughter of a West Point Professor and a Grandmother buried at Arlington Cemetary and Mother,Father, Brothers and Nephews and Nieceses inthe Military and retired from the military, it is offensive to see what is happening and to think I'm supporting this with my tax dollars,, not to mention the honor of my familly and ancestors.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  293. Jme

    Jack, Please reference Don Desaulniers (Belleville, Canada) about four/six posts up. My father, a Veitnam Vet and myself, a VA employee agree with Don. His post sums up so aptly what I think the majortiy of Americans (and Canadiens) feel. Thank you for shedding some much needed light on the topic. We cherish and nurture our young people. It is foolish to put them with illiterate, primitive people and expect any other result. Shame on us for sending our best and brightest to that god-for-saken place, to fight for democracy, unappreciated and verbally abused... this is what happens. This insanity needs to stop!

    March 13, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
  294. Allen

    Send John McCain over to relieve our troops so they can come home and have a life. Maybe Santorum and the rest of the Republicans can help old guts'n glory McCain win the war. They are so smart and tough you know.

    March 13, 2012 at 5:51 pm |