February 9th, 2011
05:00 PM ET

Health care law destined for scrap heap?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Except for some judges, the Republicans and some Democrats, President Barack Obama's health care reform law is very popular.
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Consider this:

A top Republican says the House is likely to vote next week to block funding for the president's signature law.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says it's expected to be an amendment during House debate on cutting at least $32 billion from the government's budget.

Although it's unlikely such a measure would make it through the Democratic-controlled Senate, it could still set the stage for another partisan showdown over health care. And it's not just Republicans who are questioning the scope of the health care law.

A group of moderate Senate Democrats is considering rolling back the individual mandate that requires everyone buy health insurance.

They haven't decided yet whether they'll propose legislation; but if they do team up with Republicans on this one, it could be a major embarrassment for the president.

Many of these moderate Democrats are up for re-election next year and represent states that Obama lost in 2008.

The controversial individual mandate has also been shot down by some judges. Most recently, a Florida federal judge ruled that the individual mandate is unconstitutional and that the whole health care law should be thrown out.

This could very well set up a Supreme Court challenge over health care, not to mention the two dozen other court challenges pending across the country.

Here’s my question to you: Is President Obama's health care law destined for the scrap heap?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Loren in Chicago writes:
Nothing in Washington ever gets placed on the scrap heap; the so-called health care reform will continue to live on in one form or another. There is a need for true health care reform, but given the political and economic interests, the likelihood of having a system that actually works for all citizens is practically nil.

Herman in Portland, Oregon writes:
Jack, With over 50% of the American people opposed to the law and many states calling the mandate unconstitutional, poor CBO numbers on the costs, etc… the partisan law should be headed for the scrap heap. This should have been a bipartisan law to begin with. Why are we now trying to fix it with bipartisan support? The way this law was passed was a joke and an excellent example of what the American people are tired of in Washington.

Michael in Columbus, Ohio writes:
I do not believe the individual mandate is wrong or the bill is destined for the 'scrap heap'. I find this question of the individual mandate to buy and have health insurance no different than many state mandates that automobile owners have auto insurance.

Robby writes:
Yes, they only took a problem and made it worse. The insurance companies and the drug manufacturers are the only ones who like the law as it's written. If Congress had the same insurance as everyone else, it would make a huge difference. We were better off the way we were. And by the way I'm someone who doesn't have insurance. Couldn't afford it then, can't afford it now.

Jack in Washington writes:
ObamaCare is the proverbial camel designed by committee. It looks funny and it's ungainly, but it holds water better than any beast that has come before it. If there's poetic justice, the Republicans and Tea Partiers will dry up fighting it.

Filed under: Health care • President Barack Obama
soundoff (205 Responses)
  1. Jane (Minnesota)

    I certainly hope not, I would rather see it improved for the best interest of the American people as a whole first, and not for the best interests of the Health care lobbies (Big Pharma, the insurnace companies and the healthcare providers).

    I feel strongly that health care should NOT be a pro-profit industry. If the costs are not reined in soon, my guess is that industry bubble will burst like the real estate bubble and the wall street bubbles did; and we'll see the too big to fail players (the big 3) will come crying to the tax payers for a bailout like Wall Street did.

    February 9, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
  2. Craig R. McNees

    tampa, fl if not, it is destined to failure. only a major overhaul to resemble the socialized medicine of other leading countries will be acceptable as both sides are unhappy now. i'd rather have the hmo's & big pharm unhappy rather than me. i am tired of my politicians telling me it is ok for illegals to get free health care, but not me, a legal, voting, taxpaying citizen.

    February 9, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
  3. Russ in PA

    Hopefully a lot of bad laws and regulations are destined for the scrap heap. How about adding the Patriot Act to the list? How can one that distorts a health care market, and one that trashes our freedoms, be good for any of us in the long run? Perhaps its time for the average American to pay attention to Congress – and the White House – and start demanding a return to the rule of law, and free markets.

    February 9, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
  4. Joe in Kent Island, MD

    No, just headed to be neutered to the point where it doesn't do anyone any good...but hey, the Bush Era tax rebate was extended.

    February 9, 2011 at 2:41 pm |
  5. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    Probably since the Supreme Court is going to uphold the Constitution and allow the states to establish their own rules. That is unless all of the Conservatives retire or die in the next two weeks.

    February 9, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
  6. kim smith, Dodge City, Ks.

    If insurance companies, Big Pharma, lawyers, lobbyists, Wall Street and anyone else out there who puts profits ahead of common sense and decency has their way, health care reform will never happen. Our current system is designed for one purpose only, profit and only profit. We should be the healthiest nation on earth, instead we are about the un-healthiest. You don't have to have much smarts to figure out why.

    February 9, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
  7. Paul

    From Deep in the Heart of Hurst, Texas,

    Now that people realize that the only people who benefit are the Lawyers & HealthCare Insurers..

    February 9, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
  8. Jayne

    I sure hope not. I just got into the pool for people with pre-existing conditions and I might finally get the treatment I need to take care of the severe and chronic pain I've been forced to live with since being priced out of insurance in 2004. This isn't a political football between the parties, it's life and death for many Americans.

    February 9, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
  9. Denise

    It will be a long drawn out process, and in his champaign he should maybe let "The People" decide what they want. Have an election on it, that sure would save alot of money . Or Maybe he will appoint another Czar............????

    The school lunches and all of the proposed budgets will come from the states, each state will be in more of a finacial bind. Perhaps parents should take away remotes, limit time on computers, phones, etc. The children are the future of America and they really don't have a clue as to a hard days work. They are lazy and addicted to phones and computers.

    How about PE in school...maybe like when I was in school...required (4) years of PE.....or bring back the Presidents Phyisical Fitness Program....that would cost alot less than what is being proposed now.

    February 9, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
  10. Bizz, Quarryville Pennsylvania

    Whether we keep our health bill depends on the backbone of the democratic party. Just because the republicans want to repeal healthcare is no reason to agreed to do it. I think this can be the republicans Waterloo if they keep pushing this issue and don't concentrate on other pressing matters such as the deficit and jobs. Personally I am sick and tired of hearing the republicans moan about Health Care for the sake of their rich insurance friends and lobbyist.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
  11. Terry- Greensburg, IN "Hoosier Hillbilly"

    Let's sell it to China they're buying all our scrap.
    What the democrats so adamantly pushed thur congress without knowing what it was themselves may now end up not even getting a trail run, wouldn't that be about right?
    If it does get scraped I got even a better idea, shove it up Pelosi & Reeds' A$$ – that might straighten them up!
    The States aren't going to let it happen even if the reps. do!

    February 9, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
  12. Herman Portland OR

    Jack with over 50 % of the american people opposed to the law. Over 10 states calling the mandate unconstitutional. Poor CBO numbers on the cost and on and on. The partisan law should be headed to the scrap heap. This should have been a bi partisan law to begin with. Why are we now trying to fix it with bi parisan support? The way this law was passed was a joke and an excelent example of what the American people are tired of in Washington.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
  13. Rich McKinney, Texas

    Well lets just say that it is on life support at the moment and the buzzards are starting to circle overhead.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:07 pm |
  14. charlie moore

    I think so , I really like the prez think he's doing great! But this bill doesn't take into acount the many hard working people that only make 500 aweek or less we can't afford insurance or healthcare! we r not dead beats we just can't take on anymore bills!!

    February 9, 2011 at 3:10 pm |
  15. Judy Hohnholt

    I certainly hope so Jack. I am a recently retired federal worker. My health insurance is going up about $50 per month, I figure it is a result of the new health care law. Under this law our children are covered until age 26. This is ridiculous, unless someone has a child with special health problems, then I understand. By age 26 an adult should be on their own and not dependent on Daddy and Mommy for health care.

    Judy from Strasburg CO

    February 9, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
  16. Pat in Michigan

    Scrap it all but the provision for denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions.They also need to put price controls on those policies.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
  17. Loren, Chicago

    Nothing in Washington ever gets placed on the scrapheap, the so-called Health Care reform will continue to live on in one form or another. There is a need for true health care reform, but given the political and economic interests, the likelihood of having a system that actually works for all citizens is practically nil.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
  18. Arlene, Illinois

    I have an idea why not let the people who want the new health
    care keep it and the republicans who don't want it just go
    without health care, that way it would cut the costs in half.
    Seems like a good idea to me.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
  19. Alex – Idaho Falls, Idaho

    Don't think of the scrap heap as a destination; think of it as a journey. Everytime congress scaps over President Obama's healthcare law they get to heap on new earmarks.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
  20. James Wolford

    I pray our Supreme Court doesn't politicize the issue. We need a fair judiciary?

    February 9, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
  21. Ron

    I hope so.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  22. Jenna

    Is President Obama's health care law destined for the scrap heap?

    Only in the dreams of the GOP.

    The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is helping MILLIONS of Americans TODAY. And as time goes on even more Americans will benefit.

    Do things need to be tweeked? You bet, but destined to the scrap heap, nah..

    Jenna Wade
    Roseville CA

    February 9, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
  23. Dave, Orlando, FL

    I sure hope so. It needs to be replaced by the plan he promised during his campaign, you know, the one with the non-negotiable public option.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
  24. Cliff Glass - Rego Park, New York


    Republicans should proceed at their own peril. The voting public may not remember which party initiated a program – but they sure remember which party tries to take it away.
    Have they already forgotten the frenzied threats to Democrats to " take their government hands off my Medicare" ?.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:36 pm |
  25. Jan Davis, Knoxville, TN

    I certainly hope not. I don't think most Americans really understand the new health care law that well and the Republicans are, as usual, taking advantage of the situation. It has some great elements in support of the average guy–no penalties for pre-existing conditions, universal coverage for children, and requiring most people to carry health insurance. Requiring folks to carry health insurance will mean less costs for working people because people that are uninsured run up big hospital/medical bills they can never pay and our taxes end up paying for emergency room visits for these people. America, get more informed and you will see that President Obama did a great thing for us. Jan in Tennessee

    February 9, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
  26. chris

    if he intends to get relected in 2012 yes it needs to be done over and this time let us know everythign without voting on it but if he wants to not be re-elected president in 2012 then he won't back down on his obamacare bill that they dioid not read or disclose to us first before voting on it

    February 9, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
  27. gladdy

    This should be a best start for the Public option debate again.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
  28. Cal (Maui)

    Unfortunately the health care law was a result of bipartisanship, (only 2 republicans) it was put together with too much haste to keep a campaign promise, there are some good provisions in this law but at what cost and on who's shoulder's will those cost's be burdened on? Yes, this law will be heading for the scrap pile even if it goes to the Supreme Court, forcing people to have health care coverage is wrong.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:41 pm |
  29. Gordon NJ

    I sure hope not. Every Republican I know whines about high health insurance rates because of all the "freeloaders" who show up at the emergency room without insurance. Now the Republicans' main objection to Obamacare is that it forces people to buy heath insurance. Do they not see the contradiction here, or are they just determined to hand Obama a defeat on this. ... I guess I just answered my own question.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
  30. Bob Kobs

    No, it is the law of the land. Republicans need to strt working on jobs as they promised.

    In just one week, the have flubbed three votes on the Floor. They tried to renew their voyeurisim and failed; they tried to defund the UN and failed, now they are refighting the Social Wars. Where is your job plan?

    February 9, 2011 at 3:45 pm |
  31. Pete in Georgia

    Well, in that 65-70% of all LEGAL voting age Americans agree that the existing Bill is a DISASTER and should be scrapped................ and a new, logical, afforable, sane Bill replace it, you would think that should be the course but NO....................Herr Obama and his spenders know better. Majority opinion means nothing in America. Only the dictates of a dictator count.
    Our founding fathers have been rolling over and over in their graves so much in the last 2 years there's no room left to roll over any longer.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
  32. Rick, Medina, OH

    No! For God sakes No! The largest generation in history is beginning to enroll in Medicare, and the second largest has the lowest recorded enrollment rate in health insurance programs. This is nonsense, and a major case for single provider insurance (ala Canada and Europe.) We can't trust folks with a careful eye on margins to have a careful eye on our health! Our President actually 'caved in' when he gave current insurers any role at all.

    Medina, OH

    February 9, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
  33. Alex in Bremerton, WA

    No, many laws the states didn't like, like the Civil Rights Act, that were overturned by lower courts were ultimately upheld by the Supreme Court.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:52 pm |
  34. louis patyk

    Reckon so. The eich get what they want and the middle class & poor get dumped on. The Rep. and tea party will not be happy untill they undo what Linclon put into place so many years ago.
    There is a reason why the rep. carry the South.

    L P . in Illinois

    February 9, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
  35. ken, atlantic city, nj

    I hope it is headed for the scrap heap. Mandating that 18 million people who earn up to 33k per year be put on medicaid will bankrupt most of states. People who own a home should not be allowed to collect free medicaid which includes medical, dental and nursing home care. People who own a 300k home should pay for their own health care not the taxpayers. In addition giving a 21% raise to doctors who already earn 300k per year just so they accept the new 18 million medicaid patients is fiscally insane.

    February 9, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
  36. jim in Alabama

    Jack, if it winds up on the scrap heap and the Republicans don"t replace it with something better, like a single payer system, it will be political suicde for them. Too many Americans have been shut out or priced out of the present system to let them walk away without something better than the present law. If they don"t realize this, they're extremely stupid and totally out of touch with main street America.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  37. Michael

    I do not believe the legal mandate is wrong or the bill is destined for the 'scrap heap'. I find this question of the individual mandate to buy and have health insurance no different than many state mandates that automobile owners have auto insurance by state law. The same concept applies and somehow that is not controversial at all or brought up as unconstitutional despite the fact you are forcing the majority to conduct business with a private for profit institution.

    Columbus, OH

    February 9, 2011 at 4:07 pm |
  38. Denise

    This issue has gone on for much to long and way too much energy put into a plan that basically will be fought over for a long time to come.
    Why not just take it to "The People" and let us vote. That will save money and time,....Let the People Speak. We are not children and we do not need to a babysitter.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
  39. Gail, Plano TX

    The Democratic senators that are moving towards expulsion of the individual mandate in the health care law are a bunch of firsr class fraidy cats! They are only worried about their re-elections. So they will help defeat their President's health care law. If only I could divide myself into 4 parts, I would move to these senators states and vote against them! They are a disgrace !!

    February 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
  40. Kyle S. Irvine, CA

    Its looks like it Jack,
    I had my suspicion about this health care reform nonsense from the start. What did for me was Nancy Pelosi's remark about passing this bill so we can see what's in it. Now that it has been passed, law makers are going through this bill and we find the individual mandate.

    Mark my words Jack, this health care reform fluff will do more harm than help President Obama's legacy.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
  41. Randy Tucson, AZ

    I hope that it will not be thrown on the scrap heap like yesterdays garbage, and the Presedent should not be embarrassed by the cowardess of some of his cohorts. It seems that a number of the most vociferous complainers have either VA benifits, and pay nothing for their insurance, politicians, and they pay nothing for their benifits, or the people that don't buy insurance, and just go to the emergency room when they get sick and pay NOTHING for the services rendered. (i.e. public option). The Health Care Law may and is not perfect.It was created by men and will need modification, but the people that want to dispose of it have a ve$ted intere$t in its demise.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:18 pm |
  42. Russ , Johnston IA

    Let's hope so! But this administration will probably ignore the court ruling anyway – just like the court ruling that they CANNOT keep the moratorium on oil drilling in the gulf...they are just ignoring it by NOT issuing drilling permits again.....yet.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
  43. Mike in St. Paul

    I don't know whether it is or not. What I do know is that I have not heard one republican say the word "jobs" since their campaign ended.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
  44. Roman, Butler, Pa

    At the present moment, thats not the only thing that will get scrapped. You can see the fabric of American society tearing apart. We are a lost nation being guided by politicians bought and paid for by Corporate Vampires. Literally, sucking the life out of America. Whether it be on Health Care reform or energy reform. These Corporate thugs steal from our national treasury so they can hide their money in secret bank accounts in Switzerland so they dont have to pay taxes. Let their political buddies get the best health care just so long as they bend to the will of these thugs.
    Jack, I hope for their sake that these boneheads in congress see the Light. Pray for forgiveness and change their ways. The majority of them, say they believe in God. And, if that's true, then they should also believe in God's Wrath.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
  45. Bud Rupert

    Jack I don't believe the health care bill will be repealed. Here's why.
    There are things in the bill (we all know what they are) that are steps in the right direction-that's a given. So, in my view that alone will be enought o keep it in play. What they did not do and still may never are costs. Health care care costs would continue to rise out of control with or without the bill passing. That's a fact. The reason and there are 2 primary reasons. Our health Insurance industry is FOR PROFIT and our fee for service rates off the charts. France Germany the Swiss have similar set-ups as we do with two exceptions Health insurance is NON PROFIT and they set fee for service rates. Those countries rank near the top in health care. We rank 27 in the world. DAH!

    February 9, 2011 at 4:28 pm |
  46. Robby Bowling

    Yes they only took a problem and made it worse. The insurance company's and the drug manufactures are the only one who like the law as its written. If congress had the same insurance as everyone else it would make a huge difference We were better off the way we were And by the way I'm one that doesn't have insurance. Couldn't afford it then can't afford it now .They can put me in jail and I'll get the affordable insurance plan. When your broke you have to make choices something our government only pay's lip service to.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
  47. Ken from Pinon Hills, California

    No, not enough votes to override the President's veto in the Senate if changes come down the pipe.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
  48. Sean in Michigan

    No matter how popular it is (which is disputable, depending on which poll you look at), federal government is still required to adhere to the Constitution. The recent ruling is absolutely correct and will most likely be upheld in the Supreme Court.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
  49. Kalu Walter(Houston Tx)

    As genuine as the intention of this law may seem, it is obvious that the people which it is meant to serve do not like it or at best lack its understanding. This law would likely be an oblivion soon, and a republican congress and perhaps a president ,will try to bring same with little twits and it will then lack democrats support. The people will continue to suffer.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
  50. AB

    Jack, I am seeing a replay of U.S. history when the Republicans attempted to gut FDR's Social Security program via their legislative proposals and via the federal courts and they failed!! The same thing will happen in their attempt to gut Obama's healthcare law. The question of the health law's mandate is really moot since the federal government requires almost all Americans to pay into the Social Security and Medicare Systems–social insurance programs. The states require all American car owners to buy auto insurance. These laws are constitutional and are neccesary to "promoting the general welfare" of Americans which is outlined in the U.S. Constitution. Why would the healthcare law mandate be any different?

    February 9, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
  51. Bradley, Portland, OR

    The issue that gives most people heartburn in the health insurance reform package is the individual insurance mandate.

    The reason this is necessary is because some bozo will decide he doesn't need insurance, then he'll get in an accident, and expect to get medical treatment anyway.

    When he doesn't pay his bill, the hospital shifts his costs to the insured patients, or the taxpayers.

    The solution to this is simple: make it illegal for a doctor or hospital to treat any patient without insurance.

    After a few of these bozos who gamble that they'll never need medical care die from accidents or illnesses, hopefully the rest will sign up voluntarily for insurance.

    It sounds harsh, but it lets the bozos have their "freedom" to not buy insurance. And deal with the consequences.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
  52. Tom Bulger, Canandaigua

    Like Frankenstein's monster, Health Care Reform came from the scrap heap.

    Health insurers extorted the guarantee of mandatory customers. Hospitals extorted an increase in reimbursements. Republicans extorted time delays so that many of the voters won't appreciate what the president accomplished in their behalf until after the 2012 election.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
  53. Tyrone, NY

    The Republicans need to be headed to the scrap heap rather than be rewarded with seats in Congress for sitting down 1 whole year with no input aside from cries of NO! After one year there is not ONE PROPOSAL that is of any structure from the Republican party that had over 1 YEAR and counting to have CONCRETE options for the american people. all we hear is we are goingto cut the budget and repeal OBAMACARE. Same rhetoric with NO ANSWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    February 9, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
  54. Jeff In Minnesota

    I think the courts will find that the mandatory purchase of health insurance is unconstitutional. Then there are all of the things that future Congresses must pass in order for it to work that will not get done. In the end, the Health Care Reform Act will just pass into oblivion.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
  55. Bud Rupert

    Jack, the health care bill will not be repealed and heres why. There are enough aspects of the bill that are liked to keep it in place. what was not address were costs. And the way our system works it may never be addressed. There are 2 reasons why our health care is twice as much as any in the world. Insurance is FOR PROFIT and our FEE FOR SERVICE rates are through the roof. The French, Germans, Swiss and Japan have similar systems as we do. However There insurance industry is in the health care business not the PROFIT making business and they control cost by negotiating fee for service rates. Everyone knows exactly what an MRI will cost regardless who gives it or where. By any measure, they rank at the top in health care performance and we rank 27th in the world.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
  56. Angela Savage Austin Owings Mills, Maryland

    Is this the "Death Panel" Sara Palin and others spoke of?. Killing this Health care law will kill people who don't have or can afford health care, Jack. Even under pressure and time, a piece of coal can be formed into a diamond. Improve it...don't kill it!!!

    February 9, 2011 at 4:49 pm |
  57. Jack in Lynwood (Washington State)

    ObamaCare is the proverbial camel designed by committee. It looks funny and it's ungainly, but it holds water better than any beast that has come before it. If there's poetic justice, the Republicans and Tea Partiers will dry up fighting it.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:49 pm |
  58. Diane Dagenais Turbide

    If it is for the President then it is for 30 millions of Americans. Remember the republican plan was for only 3000 americans or if you get elected and get healthcare!

    February 9, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
  59. Bill, South Texas


    You ask: Is President Obama's health care law destined for the scrap heap?

    If yes, then so too are 90% of us human persons in the U. S. The odds are favoring the scrap heap as we are being led to think that corporate profits and amassing great personal wealth for the very few are the legitimate goals of our government.
    If the pursuit of health and happiness are our goals then health care needs to be a right of citizenship not a rare commodity for the wealthy few. But, the same should be said for quality education and productive jobs here in the U. S. We should not export our jobs with tax credits to corporations who cut out Americans while supporting China et al.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:51 pm |
  60. Joe R - Houston, TX

    Honoring an oath of office is too much to hope for.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
  61. Paul P.

    I certainly hope not. All this spin, exaggeration and fear mongering about the personal mandate is spewed out by many of the same people who are willing to ignore the constitution when it comes to immigration 'anchor babies'. If the federal government cannot implement the Health Care Bill because they cannot make everyone pitch in for their own coverage, then there is no reasonable way to substantially bring down costs for everyone.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:54 pm |
  62. Simon, Orlando

    I can honestly say that I don't care. I will be on Medicare in a few months and whether it goes or stays will not affect me. Although, anybody under 40 is really going to get screwed if it stays.

    February 9, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
  63. Remo, from beautiful downtown Pflugerville Texas

    It should never have been passed as it is in the first place. It's so cumbersom it's no wonder those who voted for it, didn't read much of it. The fact that it was two-stepped into law ilks of a "fast one". Not to mention the non-transparency that was promised. I hope it doews get scrapped, it need to be done correctly and legally...

    February 9, 2011 at 4:58 pm |
  64. Eve Lemon

    It probably is DOA, but why did the complainers of the health care bill wait until now to complain. We've had Medicare for decades and when one reaches 65, Americans are required to pay and use it, despite having insurance. And, their insurance carriers can force them to use Medicare first. Why wait until now? Partisan politics! Eve of Texas

    February 9, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
  65. Dennis north Carolina

    Health care will not hit the scrape heap as long as Obama is in office. the citizens of this country should watch Egypt because if they do repeal health care we may have to protest our government. we need to take their health care,pension and other benefits so they see how the people who pay for this country have to live.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:03 pm |
  66. Tony from Southport

    I hope the entire bill isn't thrown out. It would be nice if they could keep in the sections on preexisting coverage, coverage for kids until the age of 26 (if they live at home and are in school or not employed), but they should add GOP suggestions like Tort Reform and the ability to buy insurance across state lines. Together, Democrats, Republicans and Independents could come up with health care cost reductions that would keep premiums down so more people could afford to purchase coverage.

    Health care in this country is excellent. It's the cost that is prohibitive.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
  67. robert marchant

    I do not think the entire bill will be scrapped but I do believe that it will have serious modifications made to it. Now my question for you, Will the people of extreme wealth in this country see the attacks on people who have accumulated substantial wealth in Egypt being visited on them in this country? What is the right number of people living at or below poverty to insure an economy of vigor but not a revolution?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:09 pm |
  68. Brian Willl

    How many of those who wish to repeal already have health insurance? They do not care about those who do not. People having preventive care would save money in the long run.

    As for those elected tea baggers who say they will decline their coverage? They can afford to pay a rediculous premium where most of us cannot. They also are mostly the newly elected who will just keep the coverage they had. They will not be going without coverage like the average joe would have to.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
  69. Dave in Arizona

    It should be. So many lobbyists got their fingers in this pie that it is designed more to benefit the insurance company than it is the people the insurance will cover. Wihtout the public option it is nothing but smoke and mirrors to say look at the health care.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  70. Andre R. Newcomb

    My concern is the introduction of dedicating such potentially huge revenue streams into the private sectors. People are so easy. Later on, in time, private property and the allegiances that money commands could very well undermine 'public trust' with divisiveness and territorial instincts. . .the baser human defense.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
  71. Paul NJ

    There is too much controversy over this bill. It has divided our nation. It was written and passed by one party. We all agree it has its good and bad parts so maybe it would be a good idea if everyone worked together to replace it.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
  72. Gigi Oregon

    I think with the country is in such a mess today it would be very foolish of the republican party to mess with health care, social security, medicare, and cutting education to name a few things. Many are taking notice of how much money is sent overseas to other countries when our own country is having extreme difficulties. High unemployment due to corporate America, Bank scams and bailouts, education cuts, two wars that money was not appropriated for, and the list goes on and on. And now we learn of billions being sent to countries. And the funny thing most seem to be about oil.. The United States has so many problems we can't balance them all. And " We the people" of the lower and middle class are being taxed into poverty so the rich 5% can have a tax break. And letting our American cities and life style crumble.

    Yes health care is very popular. For those without job's, homes lost, no health care. I believe they will think twice before voting. If President Obama Health care goes on the scrap heap, it won't be his fault. The lower and middle class will know who to dump at the next election. The people wanted change they got it. They want a national health care bad enough... they'll get it.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:14 pm |
  73. Johnnie Cromedy

    If so God help Us All,because Insurance Companies are sure gonna do us in for sure

    February 9, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
  74. Fred


    As long as political expediency trumps doing what is right, the health care law is toast.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
  75. Scott Stodden

    I Don't Think It's Destined For Scrap Heat At All! I Believe That Things Wil Always Get Heated When Debating The Health Care Law But Will It Be Thrown Out And Repealed? I Very Much Doubt It Because The Senate Democrats Won't Support A Repeal And If It Ever Did Go To The Supreme Court I Believe They Would Vote In Favor Of The Bill And Why Not? Its A Great Law That Benefits Everyone And Makes Sure That Everyone Is Entitled To Good, Quality & Affordable Health Care.

    Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)

    February 9, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
  76. Ron D'Eau Claire

    It should be scrapped and replaced with a program that has a "public option" like all the other successful countries with better health care at lower costs do. The mistake was pandering to the "free market" factions who wanted to guarantee private insurance companies get a piece of everyone's health care budget.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  77. Bruce Brissette

    I think we should start over with the health care law, and put real thought behind it, should be put to national vote.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  78. Joseph Kraatz, Oceanside, CA

    yes, it is important the law is scrapped. After all it is much more important to go around the world and fight useless wars that can't be won costing us billions. Giving aid to dictators. But why waste money on our own citizens.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  79. Jim

    If the Health Care law is not destined for the scrap heap, then the Constitution is.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  80. John Gill

    Of course it is. Anything meant to help the average Joe or the poor is headed for the scrap heap.
    Problem is, so is the U.S. We are headed the way of ancient Rome. While the super-rich continue their orgy of wealth the rest of us will be forced to under-educate our children, drive on crumbling bridges and wait to die.
    What is that saying about Not learning from the Past?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  81. Rod / Chicago

    I cant see a how anyone can defend this mess of a bill. The writing is on the wall. Yes, this law is going to the scrap heap.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  82. David Denis

    Jack, let's take Congress' healthcare away until all have access to healthcare!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  83. Eileen Roberts

    The health care bill has allowed me to keep my son on my insurance while he completes graduate school when he couldn't get a job. It's pricey but essential.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
  84. Tom from Charleston SC

    I'm tired of the rants from both sides. There are parts of this law that I don't agree with such as the mandate. Republicans when they were in control of both houses for 8 years (last 4 of Clinton and first 4 of Bush) they offered NOTHING in regards to Health Care reform. They say they want to scrap it and replace it. Why should we trust them now when they couldn't get it done before.
    Here's a solution get rid of the unpopular parts of the law and make it work. Instead of scrapping it, FIX IT!!!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  85. Skyler from New York

    I sure hope not. This bill is allowing me to stay under my parent's health insurance until I turn 26. The individual mandate is a small price to pay considering how many lives will be saved now that insurance companies will no longer be able to turn away patients for pre-existing conditions. Personally, I find human lives are more important than most Republicans do.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  86. Archie from Arkansas

    States can force "everyone" to obtain liability insurance and keep it current or they can fine and/or jail you. Yet everyone has their butt up in the air about health insurance. I just don't get it. Explain it to me Jack.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  87. Debbie Hutton

    I fail to understand why the individual mandate in the health care law is a problem for anyone. No one is turned away from care if they are injured or sick, so why shouldn't they be expected to accept that responsiblity. Those of us paying sky-high premiums for over-priced health services are also paying for the uninsured. Too many people would rather haver a nicer car or more entertainment money than to spend it on health premiums. I say everyone should pay their part.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  88. Art Pryor

    Dumbheads do not realize that we are paying anyway for the emergency room visits of the uninsured, who wait until the illness is severe and then it ends up costing us much more.

    The only reasonable way to stop excess use of emergency rooms is for everyone to be insured.

    By the way, George Washington signed a bill around 1786 requiring all men to have and keep arms in their home, so the government even then required citizens to do certain things.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  89. Karl in Mich

    If they aren’t going to fix it, then scrap it. The American people need a very rude awakening. When the Connecticut Mafia (Blue Cross, Humana, et al) has complete control of our health care system again and next year grandma’s Senior Advantage Medicare supplement doesn’t cover squat but at a much higher price, people we know personally are being thrown under the coverage bus en mass, those still insured are paying through the nose and more hospitals are going bankrupt caring for even more uninsured, then those that have been blindly scared into thinking Obama care is death panels, will finally realize the Republican’s hypocrisy. Be careful what we wish for. Mr.’s Boehner, Cantor and McConnell are not your friends. Their friends are the Connecticut Mafia.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  90. aden

    We must have auto insurance but we can't have Health insurance.to me the GOP,is for profit,not for the people.



    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  91. John

    I think the whole issue would be looked at differently by the Congress and the Senate, if they hadn't made themselves exempt from the legislation. Why don't laws with such gravity apply to all?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  92. Carolyn Barnes

    The Healthcare Reform Law is no more unconstitutional than required auto insurance. When will the public wake up? Do we want to continue to support people who won't get health insurance except under Medicaid? The reform will actually decrease payment by those who work for a living.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  93. Ken Rethmeier, DrPH

    Jack...the Affordable Healthcare Act is a classic case of "garbage in"...."garbage out"...I believe we will "scrap it"...we need to hit the "restart" button and do it right for a change...that's change we all could believe in!!!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
  94. Patricia/Georgia

    I certainly hope not...those democrats should not be too quick to do this as those who voted against it in November were not re-elected. and if this part regarding making everyone have health care is an intrusion by the governmenet why is it not intrusion for the republicans to want to monitor every women's pregnancy for the whole nine months to make sure she does not get an abortion. This to me is more invasive than getting health care. Where were these people when we were being led into a needless war????

    February 9, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
  95. Gman

    I think so Jack....Like everything else Obama has done, it's ill concieved and done in a rush....The only good thing in his "Health Care Bill" is the "pre existing clause". Otherwise it's on the back of the Middle Class as is the "banking reform" and the "credit card reform"...

    February 9, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
  96. Craig

    No, the health care law will survive. I am surprised that no one has made the same arguement about auto insurance. Many, if not all, states require that you have auto insurance if you drive and face a rather large ticket if you don't. No one is claiming that mandatory auto insurance is unconstitutional.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
  97. Rick in Phx

    I hope so Jack. Because I for one would like to drop my health care insurance and return to the good old days where I could go to the hospital and everyone else had to pay for. Boy do I miss the good old days when everyone elses rates went up when I got sick LOL...

    February 9, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
  98. Tom Lindzon

    It will be a sad sad day if Health Care Reform fails and the richest country in the world cannot afford to keep its citizens safe from the biggest threat to life – illness and accident. Where are our values?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  99. Robert Miener

    Fix what's wrong with the Health Care legislation, but otherwise leave it alone. Try creating at least one job. Be sure to let us know what it is please.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  100. jim / Illinois

    All a part of politics as usual Jack, the dems put the mandate in the bill to give the opponents something to focus on and distract them from furthering their agenda and at the same time it gives the dems some wiggle room for compromise making Mr. O more appealling to voters. All a part of a well thought out political maneuver.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  101. Nancy, Tennessee

    This law doesn't qualify for the scrap heap because it doesn't have enough reuseable parts to qualify for salvage status. The Republicans and Democrats need to work together with some unbiased experts in the field of health care to write a new bill. The size of this one and the references in it to other parts of the same bill make it impossible to gut.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  102. Arnold MI

    We should send the entire health care system to the scrap heap and make Medicare the only system available and write a simplified bill that states:

    [1] If an individual requires the services of a doctor or medical facility, then it is covered by Medicare.
    [2] If anyone attempts to deny care to an individual, then they shall serve no less than 10 years in a prison.

    It has become quite apparent that may of our citizens and elected officials can not make a sensible decision about health care, or they would not be putting the cost of programs ahead of an individuals health and /or life.

    These types of human rights violations are considered by many intelligent countries as "MURDER" but many of our elected officials do not have enough brains tom figure this out, either.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  103. Debra

    I hope not!!! I am tired of paying for people who do not want to take responsibility for their bills or can't! They have to lie about who they are when they come into the ER – because they want care. People don't pay their bills after leaving the hospital and we get it basically tacked onto our bills! I mean come on a Tylenol for 12$... Please...this is insane! Just because my stupid insurance will pay the fee doesn't mean it is okay to do it! But that's how the system makes up (or tries to) its loss! I go into the doctors for general care and see what they charge... how can anyone with out coverage pay this...I can't either!!!
    Everyone in this country needs health care... We're paying anyway... Why is it that no one gets this?
    New York!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  104. L. Finch

    If HCR is found to be unconstitutional in regards to its mandate to buy in, where does that leave Social Security & Medicare for which deductions are likewise legally extracted from our paychiecks against our will whether we ever live to qualify to collect or not?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  105. Alice Ratzlaff

    Dear Jack, How can the greatest country on earth allow kids to go without medical care, just 'cause their parents are poor? Bravo Obama for figuring out that everyone needs to pay for health insurance. My God, the rest of the western world has already figured this out, so how could it possibly be constitutionally wrong to actually look after all of your citizens, isn't that what democracy actually means?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  106. Francisco Lopez

    The Health Care Law is headed for the scrap heap because in my opinion, it has just not been clearly explained to me and other Americans some people feel that their taxes are going to go up if this Health Care initiative passes and with the economic crisis that we are going through more taxes would just hurt us.

    Francisco Lopez
    Redwood City, California

    February 9, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  107. Dennis Moore

    Let's get honest, the health care plan is desperately needed and it should be universal. All the weak Democrats and blood thirty, lying Republicans, will do anything to stop it. Even though it is the best thing for the country. And,,, the government sure mandates that you pay taxes, license fee's,and other mandated cost, so why can't they mandate health insurance, California did. We are the dumbest electorate in the world, I am embarrassed by the weal minds that vote against their economic interests.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  108. kelly from Canada

    Jack, As a Canadian I can't understand how Americans can think they are from the "Greatest Country in the World" and yet can't even agree to give what should be a human right! If somehow President Obama's law gets torn down, the people in the government should also have to give theirs up as well, after all wouldn't that be the "Patriotic" thing to do? I highly doubt the hypocrites will do this!!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  109. Thomas Doolittle

    Taxpayers that have health care insurance are paying $1,000 more on their taxes for the people that don't have health care insurance. I would like those that can afford to buy health care insurance, to pay a higher tax through a penalty, to reduce my tax obligation for their decision not to have health care insurance. I agree with the penalty for not having health care insurance, if you can afford to buy it. Lets even the playing field for all of us.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  110. Mary S.

    I thank God every day for the new healthcare law. I'm a small business owner with a pre-existing condition, and if the healthcare law is overturned I'll be ineligible for any health insurance at all. I don't trust Republicans when they say they want to replace the healthcare law. They never cared before what happens to people like me, and I don't see any evdiene that they ever will.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  111. Wes

    Remember when the Republicans didn't want the public option on the insurance, but rather the individual purchase of insurance of a public policy. Obama was against having individuals being responsible for the purchase. Looks like the Republicans are now ready to give Obama what he wanted the first time around. Who knew?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  112. Ellie from New Jersey

    Any legislation that was thrown together like ObamaCare belongs in the scrap heap. There was a golden opportunity to truly reform health care but, as usual, ideology and politics took over and this time in an atmosphere of unchecked power. Based on the flawed process and what is obviously and increasingly flawed law, I am hoping that the Republicans can stay strong and do whatever it takes to get this very important reform on the right track.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  113. david

    What needs to be scrapped, is the negative discourse between the Republicans and Democrats. Life is short and health for all in some manner must be paramount and at the center of the national agenda. Lets heap our mutual ideas together, abandon the negative backward debates and get all Americans the health care they deserve!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  114. L. Finch

    If HCR is found to be unconstitutional in regards to its mandate to buy in, where does that leave Social Security & Medicare for which deductions are likewise legally extracted from our paychecks against our will whether we ever live to qualify to collect or not?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  115. R N Thomson

    No – the Reform of Health Care law will not be repealed. It is, after every argument, not the "obamacare law" – it is an huge effort to reform and provide health care to Americans. Something badly needed to those of us who refuse to believe all the crap and lies put out to scare us.

    The Villages, FL

    February 9, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  116. Michael Armstrong Sr. Tx.

    Yes it is and so is Obama .

    February 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  117. Carla

    No, the Health Care Law will stand. Those in support do need to explain it better to the public, though. Why is it unacceptable to mandate that those who can afford to buy health insurance must do so? We're all paying higher medical costs because of the millions of people who are uninsured – Is that somehow more acceptable? Let's improve the Health Care Law instead of scrapping it.

    Pittsburgh, PA

    February 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  118. W. Trevisani

    God Forbid, the real part I don't get is why the Dems aren't enlightening their constituents as to how horrible it has been over the years in our wonderful country. It is a shame that in america it is good to be a Doctor but bad...really bad to be a patient..especially if you don't have good health insurancee...good being the operative word. And how come it's okay to require us to have AUTOMOBILE insurance but not General Health insurance..I think I could go on, but it is sad the masses are not informed enough to make the right decision regarding this very important piece of legislation. Like I said God Forbid.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  119. Lee Juslin

    If the health care law is destined for the scrap heap, then I guess we better put those young 20 somethings who have gotten coverage on their parents' insurance on the scrap heap, too. And, all those young children with cancer and other serious diseases who were denied coverage until the law was passed, well we better put them on the scrap heap as well. And, in 2014 when folks with pre-existing conditions can finally get health insurance, put them on the scrap heap also.
    Seems like the Republicans want to put lots of us working poor on the scrap heap. Guess we must offend their elite sensibilities.
    lj in NC

    February 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  120. jim - georgia

    I hope so. If this bill is implemented those of us who "work for a living" might as well throw in the towel. We're already paying healthcare and unemployment benefits to professional deadbeats. I just learned that you can draw full social security disability benefits and still be allowed to work. How can this happen? I always thought if you qualified for "disability benefits" it meant you were disabled to work!!!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  121. Sharyn Migdol

    Who will pay for medical care when a person refuses to buy insurance and then finds out he has a catastrophic medical need? Will we who pay for insurance have to pay for that person's care? Will he be allowed wait to buy insurance only when he really needs it?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  122. Renee Peoria,Ill

    A single payer/public option could have prevented, and could still solve a lot of the problems with the health care bill. But no one is talking about that. I'm starting to think the reason is everyone in Washington WANTS to spend all their time arguing in circles over health care so they can avoid other issues (i.e. jobs, the deficit). A public option is an obvious and relatively simple, workable fix. There are no easy fixes for jobs or the deficit. No matter what they do, politicians stand to lose someone's vote over those issues. But they can easily drag out the health care debate until after the next election. So, no, it's not headed for the scrap heap yet, it's too golden as a distraction/delay tactic.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  123. Danny

    I was unemployed and uninsured last year when I was diagnosed with cancer. Lifesaving procedures are not offered to the uninsured, not to mention the level of care available. Thanks to Obamacare, I was able to get insured with a pre-existing condition just in the nick of time. If they take away my insurance, I will die. Please don't.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  124. Jon from NY

    If you go outside the conservative echo chamber, you'll find most people aren't against the bill. While you hear conservatives claim that the majority of Americans don't like the bill, if you look deeper into the numbers, you find that really only 20-25% of Americans really don't like the bill and does not want any reform, while the rest of those who don't like the bill is because they feel it doesn't go far enough.

    My thoughts are that the majority of it will stick. The Republican's attempts to repeal or defund the bill will go no where especially as most of the parts of the bill are already paid for/don't need funding with very few of it needing to be funded in the next budget. I think in the end it will be improved upon. Maybe even the so called "government option" might make a comeback.

    Either way most Americans are tired of corporate executives making decisions on their health care based on a profit margin. Any attempt to revert back to that situation will cause a major backlash against whoever tries to revert it back.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  125. Tom Ryan in Texas

    Obama's health care program and any other health care reform will ultimately end up in the trash. If members of Congress ever had to sit in an ER for 4-5 hours or worry about how to pay for medical care for their families, they might give it some thought. But, why bother as long as lobbyists pour money into their feeding trough to ignore it all. Medicine is big business and big business will see to it that nothing that nibbles at their profts will succeed.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  126. Barbara Teixeira - Las Vegas, NV

    One can only hope. My biggest issue with this plan is that the government is forcing everyone to purchase health insurance. If Congress can force everyone to do this, what will we be forced to do next? I'm not buying the argument that this compares to buying car insurance. I only need to buy car insurance if I want to drive a car. So I do have a choice there. I can choose not to drive a car. What can I choose not to do if I don't buy Health Insurance? I hope this law goes down so that Congress understands that in this democracy, we will not allow them to write laws forcing us to buy anything!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  127. Connie Lightner

    My greatest frustration in the health insurance reform debate is that people don’t seem to understand that this is a civil rights issue. People who have survived or are living with an illness don’t deserve to be tossed on the trash heap of private health insurer’s corporate profit margins. And regarding the Florida judge who ruled that the insurance mandate is unconstitutional: I find it unconstitutional that anyone should be denied access to affordable treatments which can save their lives.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  128. Joe in Twinsburg

    One of your better topics. If it not headed to the junk yard iot should be, since it is a huge cost in taxes to the American people. Not to mention the imposition on personal liberties. KILL it!!!!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  129. john green

    It's really easy to want to rescind legislation that provides assistance to the average American. Especially when those wishing to do the rescinding are provided with the best medical care the average American can pay for all while realizing that their salary and medical coverage will continue when they leave office (in as short as four years time)! It's certainly time for term limits and to get Congress off the special medical care perks and retirement benefits plans they enjoy in exclusivity. Limit them to one or two terms and put them all on Social Security. My guess not many will want to serve, but it won't take long to "fix" Social Security, most likely within a few days!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  130. Craig

    I sure hope not. I think the Republican tactic of saying it longer and louder then people will believe is getting pretty damn OLD! In my opinion there are not a majority of people who want this law repealed, Just an overwhelming number of misinformed republicans! When I sent a letter to my Representative in TX to say don't repeal this law, I got back a letter, from Senator Hutchinson, saying I dont like what the Democrats have been doing "either" we will repeal. Read the letter Senator!!!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  131. L. R. Illinois

    We need the HCR very much. Why should it be an embarrassment? President Obama cannot control how others vote.
    If it heads to the supreme court and they vote 5-4, that is where the embarrassment lays.
    The supreme court shouldn't be partisian, they should do what is good for the people, not what the lobbyist tell them to do.
    I truely think the supreme court should be voted in every 4 years and not for life.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  132. dwight fifield

    I hope not. Social security works in this country because no one is allowed to opt out. If you work you pay into the system and upon retirement you get your benefit. If you want medical care in this country you should be required to pay into the system (i.e.get health insurance).If no one is allowed to opt out,everyone is paying their fair share and no one gets a free ride.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  133. Norm, Maryland

    It's unclear why so many people do not want universal health care, other than the health care industry lamenting that this will cut into profits. All the lies, hype, etc. spewed by the industry and those in their debt, has clouded what this Nation needs to do for its citizens...all its citizens. We already pay dearly to provide health care for persons who are not citizens, coming out of our pockets in higher costs for health care due to a lack regulation and enforcement of existing laws. Seems to be logical for our Country to provide one of life's basic needs, affordable health care, for all of its legal citizens.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  134. Lori - PA


    I hope so. Especially since Obama is trying for force me into buying something I can't afford.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  135. Jeff Nixon

    When there was no real health reform in progress We the People complained enough was not being done. When we are making progress and it seems our Government is making extreme changes We the People complain that to much is being done. . We have the technology to make more accurate decisions using technology rather than trusting our politicians to do it for us. They should enforce what we want bill by bill rather than decide for us. Why is it so hard for Democrat and Republican politicians to put aside their differences and do what We the People want done?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  136. teresa v

    I would like to see the health care bill work. I do feel it may need work. I would suggest instead of renting equipment for medicare patients switch to buying the equipment out right for the patients as this is abused regularly. Wheelchairs rarely are returned but yet medicare continues to pay rental for years long after that same wheelchair has been sold in yard sales or donated.Same for oxygen concentrators which cost about 600.00 are billing medicare for years at 100.00 a month.I agree with a lot of it.I don't like the mandates for small businessese but i would like the pool for lower income brackets. I believe everyone should have some insurance to help the hospitals get paid.Tax breaks don't work for alot of individuals but are great for corporations.We need some changes for sure.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  137. Margaret Wells

    I have and continue to be a strong supporter of this legislation. It is good for the country. It will, and has already helped millions of people, including my family. I would like to request that you cover this issue better. The media has done so much fearmongering about it and has ignored the voices of those of us that have benefitted and have done the work to inform ourselves about its compenents.
    My son, age 25 is now on my insurance, having not been covered for two years following his graduation from college. My mother has benefitted from closing the donut hole.
    The Republicans just want to gain partisan advantage by opposing this bill. Misinformation helps their case. The American people deserve information, not partisan rhetoric on this issue.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  138. Eddie V Washington

    Jack please ask all those pundits who are against the recently passed Healthcare legislation, if they would be willing to fore-go coverage until a better verson is available

    February 9, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  139. Chuck

    Like all things that slither out of Washington, it'll be sliced and diced, have lots of vital parts removed, probably have some pork transplanted into it, and be hailed as a victory by both Dems and Repubs.

    Only later will the malignancies reappear....as well as the rhetoric that'll coincide with whichever perpetual election is being flaunted in our faces.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  140. Carl in San Diego

    I hope not. The 'activist judges', a right wing term, who keep stating the unconsititutionality of the health care law, are from predominately Republican States, so it remains a partisan issue. Tweaking or amending the law would be more productible. If the law is overturned, the insurance companies and big business, Republican strongholds, win.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  141. Mark

    Obamacare is America's Hosni Mubarak...

    February 9, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  142. joyce

    I hope the Republicans are not able to overturn the Health Care Reform bill.
    I am a nurse and have seen many abuses in the old system – people do not understand insurance until they get a serious illness or are unable to obtain insurance because of a pre-existing condition.
    I think it will be a sad day for this country if health care is repealed.
    I am very afraid for this country – there are so many people who do not read and get all their information from single prejudiced sources. They are afraid of any change.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  143. Lori - PA


    I hope so. Especially since Obama is trying to force me into buying something I can't afford.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  144. Kim

    I sure hope the Health Care Plan is not scrapped.
    It is long overdue.
    I don't see why everyone has a problem with mandatory Health Insurance.
    We have mandatory car insurance.
    So you can't require someone to have health insurance, and you can't deny a non insured to health care. They sure have the right for health care, that we(the people who have insurance) pay for.
    I say, you don't want to have health insurance, then you don't get free health care(welfare or bankruptcy claims against medical bills)

    February 9, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  145. Karen A.

    Does anyone care out there! I can't get insurance. I have a pre-existing disease. I'm not alone. There are millions of Americans who do not have insurance. Not because they don't want it...it's because they can't afford it, or can't get it...and not all jobs offer insurance to their employees. Yes the government needs to step in and do something, and they did...it's not perfect but it's a start. Tell all the guys on the "Hill" to give up their insurance and see what happens when you're ill without coverage. It's a death sentence. This is not about getting re-elected you a..., it's about doing the right thing. Stand up and do the right thing.

    Karen, in rural Georgia.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  146. Sallye Sadlocha

    I hope that the Health Care Reform programs remains in place.
    All Democrats in Congress and the Senate need to defend these reforms.
    The changes in the reform make life better for Americans, especially the working poor and middle class. It's time for all DEMOCRATS to defend this program remembering the needs of American rather than the need to get reelected.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  147. CJ

    I am pretty confident the health care bill will be scraped. The Democrats in congress are worried more about re-election than they are anything else and the Republicans aren't interested in doing anything that will help middle class America.

    I'm tired of paying higher health insurance premiums because "we" the insured, pick up the tab for those who have no insurance. I guess we need to do away with people being required to have automobile insurance next.

    Compromise is necessary, I understand that, but when is the real talking to begin?


    February 9, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
  148. Pat Bateman

    Hello Jack .In Canada we have one of the best universal health care system.I notice all your health care ins.companies spend millions trying to kill obama care..Send somebody from CNN to see for yourself..Universal health care would be the best thing for Americans.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
  149. Marianne

    Health care reform can only work if it is universally mandated, just like Social Security deductions and taxes which repeated decisions by the Supreme Court have upheld.

    Although, I suppose another option would be to allow people to opt out, but then refuse them service at emergency rooms or by police/fire EMTs.


    February 9, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
  150. Matt

    This country needs a shakeup, when someone without insurance cause havoc in this country that leads to lots of people being sick or death that when having an individual mandate becomes very constitutional, the next big crisis america is going to face will be health care if the mandate is struck down. Americans like reacting to situations rather than proactive. 9/11, THE GULF OIL SPILL, HOUSING CRISIS were all warning but look at the devastation they all caused.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
  151. Robert Rexford

    Americans without Health insurance all potentially will need the local hospital ER.
    Yet millions have no insurance so why?
    !.Pre existing condition
    2. Cannot afford high premiums
    3. Do want to buy insurance because they like big trucks, guns, and nights out.
    So who will be willing to pay the ER bill for these folks when they have a skiing accident.
    If every one was required to buy catastrophic coverage similar to car insurance, Medicaid and bankruptcies would all decrease in America, and Hospitals like I used to run as a hospital administrator would not close!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  152. Tom from Whitestone ny

    Throw the whole thing out and then imediately adopt the things both can agree upon llike no denial of pre existing coditions and coverage of kids till they finish college then hash out the rest with real bipartisan support and not a token dem or republican oh and by the way just stop spending more than we make and everything will be ok with a little bit of entitlement reform.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  153. cora pitts

    I hope the health care plan is not headed for the trash heap.
    I am a 76 year old great grand mother and have seen many
    good oprtunities pass us by.I hope this is not another one lost.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  154. Val Bemis

    No one is serious about reducing the deficit, let's be real. Just 10% of the Pentagons' budget would pay for a real reduction and pay for health care. But it's more popular to pick on President Obama and his start at bring universal health care. In ten years, the deficit of today will be chump change. When will we grow up and realize that we are a better country and can easily afford to insure our people like every other western country in the world. What a bunch of children playing cowboy's with small, tiny reductions in the deficit. The republicans are a bunch of bullies on the play ground and we let them get away with it. Grow up!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  155. John from Mason City,IA

    If having everyone insured is required so that everyone even those who are ill to be covered than it needs it to bein the bill. It also will keep our cost down because the healthy as well as the sick will be paying for it which should keep the taxes down as well. Besides what is the difference between requireing everyone to have auto insurance and this??

    February 9, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  156. Joy - from Georgia

    The hospital emergency rooms wouldn't be filled if stricter rules were enacted. My husband recently died from a long battle with cancer and we witnessed countless times (medicaid) people in the ER for such ridiculous things such as removing ear wax from an old lady's ear at midnight to a female drunk sleeping off a drunken stupor. These are not emergencies and they should be stopped at the door.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  157. Sam Spooner

    If thie healthcare law is overturned,what will actually be condemned to the scrap heap is the thousands of people with preexisting conditions (including many children) who will die due to their inability to get health insurance. How do you spell HYPOCRICY? The very same Republicans who are now introducing bills in the House to prevent federal funding of abortions, are seeking to deny insurance coverage to people (including kids) who are already here in the world. It's easy to take a pro-life stance when it doesn't cost anything. How do you spell HYPOCRICY. I hope that the HC Law survives all these hypocritical challenges. Thousands, maybe tens of thousands, of real lives depend on the outcome.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  158. Anne

    Probably nor. I think the biggest threat is the soaring costs for medical treatment of any type. Hospitals for profit have to appease their shareholders, period. The fixed costs remain the same whether you have 1 patient or 100. The cost would come down if more people could afford their services.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  159. steve - virginia beach

    Judge Vincent already put it in the trash heap where it belongs. Our federal government has the authority to regulate interstate commerce but no business nor the authority to significantly regulate intrastate commerce, or telling doctors how to practice medicine, forcing us to buy what they deem us to need, or bullying states with unfunded mandates. We do need healthcare reform but Obamacare is nothing but a power grab that solves none of the underlying problems.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  160. Blair Ashcraft

    i am in the insurance business and have been for 26 years. President Obama and his administration are doing their best to unemploy approximately 100,000 insurance brokers and staff while totally screwing up the best healthcare delivery system in the world. With all of the smoke and mirrors used to pass this legislation, insurance brokers are on the front lines dealing with reality on a daily basis trying to make sense of the new law. Ever sense the law was passed, our clients are experiencing double digit rate increases. My economics professor at Tennessee says "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch". This new plan will surely bankrupt our country.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  161. Joan, Orange County California

    If we are the most advanced county in the world, then why does Slovenia have universal health coverage and we don't?

    It's embarrassing! We are the ONLY large industrialized free county in the world that does not take care of its citizens. What is a nation? The land it is on or its people?

    Our current system is ridiculous, the uninsured do not have access to routine health care, but must wait until they get really sick, lose their jobs and everything they own, and then they get free coverage in emergency rooms and hospitals.

    In our area, if you need health care, and cannot get, or cannot afford health insurance, if you are destitute, you can get complete coverage through the state welfare program. If you are working, own a home, you cannot get any kind of health care until you have spent all your money and lost your home. Ok, now you are destitute, and you quality for health care equal to what all seniors receive through Medicare.
    Is this a good economic plan for our country?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  162. Matt

    Health insurance mandate and the auto insurance your state requires you to carry are two different things. You only have to have auto insurance if you drive. If you live in NYC and take cabs everywhere, you aren't forced to buy the insurance.

    Second, you only have to get liability insurance. You have to have insurance to protect the harm you do to others should you use public roads. You don't have to protect yourself-even for medical.

    Nice try though.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  163. CSnord -- Phoenix

    Being popular does not make it good public policy. The law is fatally flawed because it did not address costs in any way. That is, it does not address what biomedical and pharmaceutical companies are allowed to charge for their products. There is also nothing in the law to limit legal exposure for practitioners. Without that, the law will collapse under its own weight, eventually. It needs to go.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  164. Parker

    It's reactionary republican toadying to corporate interests that's headed for the scrap heap, Jack. The "debate" over the pro-Detroit Super Bowl ad says it all, Jack. The GOP argued that there should be no bailout – that we should let a great American industry fail, and hand all of that business to foreign interests. How long are people going to vote for that? How soon before people realize that the attack on the Health Care bill is all about coddling special interests? This isn't Atlas shrugging, this is Atlas, covered in bling, whining that the world would be so much lighter if all of the world's bling belonged to him.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
  165. L. Finch

    If HCR is found to be unconstitutional in regards to its mandate to buy in, where does that leave Social Security & Medicare for which deductions are likewise legally extracted from our paychecks against our will whether we ever live to qualify to collect or not?

    L. Finch
    Rancho Cucamonga, Ca.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
  166. Sam Dallas

    Absolutely not, rather it is heading for serious modification. Let's not forget that many Americans believe in modification and not outright repeal and scraping of the healthcare bill which is now the law of the land.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  167. Matt

    The country needs a heathcare system with a mandate that everyone should at least have some form of health care. Lets be proactive and not reactive to situations. The heathcare law will be found constitutional and americas will see the benefits and the GOP will all have shame on their faces

    February 9, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  168. roshev32

    Actually, I wish that some of the politicians that have opposed healthcare reform were sent to the scrap heap. I have never understand the opposition to legislation that is so necessary. I'm sure the bill could be improved, but it is as good as the President could given the highly partisan opposition.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  169. John Moore - New Britain, PA

    Jack, if the mandate is not constitutional then neither is the one put in place by Reagan forcing hospitals to treat patients who cannot pay. If everyone does not participate then those who don't should be denied care, why should everyone else pay for them. The only thing that makes sense speaking as a Christian is that we all pay to help one another. Do the so called religous right really see themselves as Christians?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
  170. joe PA>

    our elected officials should be taken to the scrap heap look at Egypt maybe we should take to the streets too! its always something enough is enough!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
  171. Jerry Jacksonville, Fl.

    The people that don't have health care don't want it because they go to the emergency room and medicaid picks up the cost so they're not out anything and the tea party idiots don't understand that they will pay for those peoples medical care regardless because our tax dollars pays for medicaid. At least if everyone if forced to buy health care and they can only afford to pay ten dollars a month that is ten dollars the tax payer is not having to pay.I also think everyone on a government pension, retired congressmen, retired military, state, local and anyone that gets their insurance paid for by the tax payers need to pay at least half the cost of their insurance. Now see how damn fast they like the public option

    February 9, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
  172. Jonathan

    the difference between this and automobile insurance is that automobile insurance is mandated because every time you drive, you put someone else's life at risk. every driver on the road is responsible for a vehicle that could potentially get in an accident with another vehicle. health insurance, however, does not have this problem. you being alive and walking about does not inherently risk other people. so to tax people simply for living is kind of what this boils down to...

    February 9, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
  173. Annie

    Dems should have scrapped what passed long before it became law! When it was clear that republicans weren't going to support it and the Dems had to do some finagling to have it passed – they should have gone back and strengthened their bill and passed a law that actually made more of a difference. The individual mandate is next to useless and nothing but a hardship if there wasn't with it a means through which people could actually buy AFFORDABLE policies.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
  174. Andy from Richmond, VA

    Last year's health care reform still can be tweaked and improved. The majority of Americans in recent polls still favor large aspects of it. Let's make Republicans accountable for making health care more affordable for all Americans. Let's ask them what specific solutions to soaring health care costs that they have. Does anyone know if they have any?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
  175. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    The healthcare law is like a weapon of mass destruction for Republicans and they'll keep it out of the scrap pile as long as they can.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
  176. TB

    It will be scraped, mostly. It was dead from the start because the Democrats did not craft it appropriately. Had they developed it correctly instead of just trying to get it out the door to show the American People their power, it might have stood a chance. As it is however, it’s just cannon fodder and pulling the economy further down in the drink.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
  177. Jason

    This law is toast. The argument that it is just like being forced to buy auto insurance is not relevant. You don't have to buy auto insurance. If you choose to drive, you much have auto insurance. That is a choice. You could take the bus or carpool with others with insurance. You may not think there is a choice. There are expenses with chosing to drive. However forcing sombody to pay a large amount of money every month without choice is unconstitutional and wrong. That is stomping on my freedom. Forcing me to help pay for sombody else's health insurance is socialism. Cut and dry.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
  178. Joe

    If people don't want to be FORCED to purchase Health Insurance even though, the gov't will subsidize it for the poor, THEN Health Care Providers should NOT BE FORCED to provide services to people who cannot pay. Doctors should trash their Hippocratic oath, and simply refuse treatment to people who do not have a means for payment. In ALL emergency rooms, the hospital should simply refuse treatment to ANYONE without payment. People who refuse to purchase Health care should then sign an agreement that they do NOT hold any heath care provider liable if providers refuse any treatment. It's similar to people who continue to rebuild their homes in hurricane prone areas and want the govt/FEMA to help them rebuild. They get the prize for the Darwin award.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
  179. Bert

    No one read it, it was passed on party lines alone so it is bad from the start. Of course it will be scrapped and Obama will lose the election because of it.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
  180. Lolita

    I am a school teacher who was out of a job recently. I hoped and prayed that my children, husband, nor I would become ill while we were not covered by insurance. I became ill and spent over $1000.00 of my savings in about a week and a half, only to have no definitive diagnosis or remedy for what was causing my condition. What really got me was to think of the folks who are out there day after day uninsured or under-insured, who would be required to have insurance to drive in Maryland or suffer major fines etc., but are not considered precious enough to some lawmakers to maintain their "good" health.

    I just wish somebody would tell the truth and say it like this: I don't care about "those people." As a matter of fact they could all rot and go to hell.

    The truth would just feel better. The pretense gets on my last nerve!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
  181. RBC - California

    Obviously mandated auto and house insurance is far more important than health insurance.

    After all, a car and a house are worth money but people are not worth anything, at least according to the GOP.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
  182. David in Florida

    As long as it takes 60 votes in the Senate and Obama can exercise his veto powers, this is the media continuing to infect a story that continues to fester and not heal.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
  183. john

    It should fail. It's not my place to pay insurance for my wealthy neighbor's 26 year old unemployed daughter!!!!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
  184. Rick in snowed in Arkansas

    I was just in the hospital for a foot bacteria issue six days and 12 stiches minus 1 small bone. The hospital bill I had to pay was over 2400 dollars besides loosing out of 2 monthes of pay from my work. During a time when people can't afford to put bread on the table. I thought we were going to get a system that we'd pay thru work and thats it. I feel nothing has changed except the insurance and Pharmasuitals are making out on us.I paid 85 dollars every 2 weeks for my health care with a 400 deductable and then 90/10 plan there after. I went to the doctors this week for chest/cold issues and who did I see a Nurse Practioner, not my doctor so they are cutting costs why can't the deductitbles go down or even go away?

    February 9, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
  185. Lon King

    Jack...if it is...it will add up to a waste of time for all our politicians. I'd like to know the total cost of getting it to where it is now...could be equal to what they want to cut...giving us (the taxpayers) ZERO, GOOSEGG, NADA for their pay and no healthcare. Pretty much status quo.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
  186. Darrel Lexandra HARRRIMAN NY

    Should be put on the scrap heap. Instead of focusing on covering all Americans the focus should be on lowering the cost of health care, America spends over 17% of the GNP on health care by far the most in the world, over 5% more than the second highest. One place to start would be to restrict "frivolous" law suits this could be accomplished by capping lawyer fees at 14%, at 33%-40% the ambulance chasers take any case merited or not. I know it's easier said than done but this is an area that needs to be addressed malpractice insurance is the major cost most physicians incur.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
  187. Gia in Los Angeles

    My view is that it's destined for a few major and minor amendments, but most of it will stand as is, as it should. There's WAY too much good in this law to start over from scratch and risk losing what was fought so hard to win.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
  188. Mike

    Thank God for this bill. At least there are some in Congress that care about the health of this country

    February 9, 2011 at 5:43 pm |
  189. Scott Williams

    First let me say that if you could afford insurance, wouldn't you already have it? It is wrong to force a person to purchase insurance or face a penalty if they can't afford it. That is like a hugh slap in the face to a family who can't afford it, especially with the unemployment rate so high. If Obama wants to help, he should try to work on making insurance more affordable.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:43 pm |
  190. Robert

    I sure hope so. When people understand the FACTS it hopefully will give them relevant information. For example, that more claims were denied in 2009 by Medicare than by all health insurance providers combined. There are better ways to ensure pre-existing conditions are covered, and children ---–alot better ways. There was and there is no need for the government to do a take over. All they really had to do was modify what already exists. Get ride of Obamacare!

    And for those wondering where the Republicans job plan is??? How about we ask the POTUS the question and how come, if that was his priority #1 last year – nothing has happened yet? Seems the pot is calling the kettle black.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
  191. Marvin - Colorado

    The Health Care Law as passed will be ruled unconstitutional due to the use of the Commerce Act to implement the mandate. Insurance cannot be purchased accross state lines; therefore the Commerce Act does not apply to intra-state commerce. As a small business owner insurance costs have made impossible for us to provide any coverage for our employess. Hopefully, we can throw the whole mess out and start over with a program that addresses tort reform, waste and allow us to pool our buying power with other small business to purchase insurance across state lines.

    The mandate is wrong – what's next?? – Will we all be madated to purchase only Ford vehicles.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
  192. steve - virginia beach

    It's already in the trash heap where it belongs. If this was a good solution, we wouldn't have folks coming out of the woodwork in droves seking wavers nor would Obama have done his biggest supporter, SEIU a 10 year waver.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
  193. Lon King

    Congress is proving it's a vicious cycle...one step forward...one step back. If it were a business, it would get a "F" and would have filled chapter 7, 11 and all the rest of the numbers by now!

    February 9, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
  194. Karl in Mich

    How about CNN explain the details of the plan to all of us so we understand the real law. Give us the real story without the Republican spin. Then give Bill O'Reilly an hour to rebut it. Education is a good thing.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:44 pm |
  195. rex in portland

    O'bama's health care program, thanks to the multiple likes of O'reilly and O'republican everywhere is headed for the scrap heap of history along with our democratic republic. Oligarchy (in this case corporate oligarchy wherein the CEOs and CFOs etc replace the kings, dukes, and earls) already RULE! Long live the oligarchs!

    Ain't nuttin' we can do, Jack.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
  196. Michael (Houston, TX)

    The difference between the health care mandate and the state mandate that automobile owners buy car insurance is that the state doesn't require everyone to purchase a car or car insurance. Only those who choose to buy a car are required to have car insurance. The health car mandate requires everyone to buy health care insurance period. The health care mandate is only comparable to the state car insurance mandate only if states were to required everyone to buy car insurance regardless of whether you own a car or not.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
  197. Marco

    Instead of creating legislation that opens up competition and lowers healthcare costs, this legislation simply creates another entitlement program which eliminates all incentive many to work. It does very little, if anything, to actually lower healthcare costs. I hope it dies a quick death.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
  198. Robert J. Doolittle

    I think it will survive intact. The Republicans have a real problem now. First, all of the half-truths, distortions, and outright falsehoods they used to discredit health care reform, particularly in the summer of 2009 will be useless. Are they going to remove "death panels" or the provision that would allow the federal government to put tracking devices in everybody's
    head, or the provision that would tax senior citizens up to $25,000 when they try to sell their houses? Of course not, because those provisions don't exist and never did. As more people discover the actual benefits of the bill and its enormous savings over insurance company dominated health care, it is going to be regarded as the most significant legislation of our generation. Twenty years from now Republicans will defend it like they defend Medicare and Social Security now.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
  199. Harvey E Scribner

    The simple solution to lower cost and improve quality would have been to enroll everyone in Medicare.
    Gee, I wonder why that did not happen.....

    February 9, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
  200. Geoff

    Throwing this reform onto the scrap heap would only be a good thing if it were replaced by something better: Universal, single-payer health coverage. Why that concept scares people is a mystery to me.

    Gone would be a system in which for-profit insurance companies are incentivized to deny as much coverage as possible in order to maximize returns to their shareholders. In would be a system in which medical decisions would be made by doctors and their patients alone, rather than by insurance claims processors. And the cost for every American citizen to be protected by our health care system would be distributed by means of the same mechanism that allows for every American citizen to be protected by our military: our progressive tax structure.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
  201. ArtInChicago

    Hey think of the thousands that were paid for the first PC. You can now get a supermachine for a fraction of the cost. Before this bill, there was nothing. At least you now have a healthcare base to modify.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
  202. David - Cleveland, OH

    It should be. This law is poisoned beyond repair. More than half of the states want it thrown out. The law has been ruled unconsititual by several courts. The law was passed by a Congress that never read it. The Speaker of the House told the American people that the law should be passed, then we will find out what is in it. Too many back door deals were made. Too many organizations have been exempted from the law. The law is yet another huge entitlement offered by a government that cannot pay for other entitlement programs. The cost is prohibitive.

    The onlys sensible way to address this fatally poisoned piece of legislation is to have Congress unanimously it. Then and only then can we work as a people to get a sensible healtcare law that is endorsed by the majority of the American people.

    If this law is not repealed, the division in this country will continue for a long, long time. Our kids and grandkids will be left holding the bag.

    Everyone in Congress who voted for this law should be considered for impeachment.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
  203. Dave

    The requirement to buy auto insurance is very different. States require you to have liability insurance for your vehicle. The states are saying you have to be able to cover the damage you may do to others. You're not required to cover yourself only others. The government doesn't guarantee a car for every citizen so you can't say everyone has to have a car. The health insurance mandate is wrong. However, it seems they could get around this question by simply making it a new tax (which is what it ultimately is anyway). Make it a federal tax and allow deductions for those who obtain health insurance. Just like the mortgage interest deduction is designed to encourage home buying, a health insurance deduction may encourage better health (okay, probably not but its possible). Anyway the government should have learned by now that people don't like being told what they must do, instead tell them they get a bonus for doing what you want them to do.

    February 9, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
  204. Nurse Lisa in Shelton CT

    all those saying over 50% are opposed to it, forget that Obama was elected in strong part because he promised this legislation would happen and it did. Bravo to him. Thank goodness people won't have to lose their house because they got cancer. As long as the news publishes every jot and tittle calling it evil and full of death panels no matter what nuts spew it, or allow people like Grassley to denounce it vote against it and then try to take credit for what is good in it only to denounce it more – the untruthful GOP agenda gets advanced.

    February 9, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
  205. Dan from Prince Edward Island Canada

    I really do not understand Americans. Two years ago you had 43
    million people without Health Insurance and thousands others going
    bankrupt from health cost. Finally all these people would get coverage
    but now it seems the lobby for the health insurance companies and the Republicans have sold Americans on the idea that they know best
    Lets turn the clock back to more Americans without health coverage and more bankrupties. Thank God I do not live in the USA.

    February 9, 2011 at 6:00 pm |