What does Rand Paul's Kentucky victory mean for Tea Party?
FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
After more than a year of protests, rallies, speeches and a national convention... the Tea Party movement has taken its first big step toward political relevancy.
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Dr. Rand Paul pulled off a stunning landslide victory this week in Kentucky's Republican senate primaries. Paul, an eye doctor with no political experience, defeated the more well-known candidate - Kentucky's Secretary of State who had the backing of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell. What an embarrassment for McConnell.
Even before his victory - Paul was one of the leading voices of the Tea Party movement - known for its anti-big government, anti-tax, anti-establishment positions. Paul comes by his credentials honestly - his dad is Texas congressman and onetime GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul. And some of his ideas are pretty darn good. They include requiring Congress to balance the budget and limiting senators to 12 years in office.
The Democrats were quick to react to Paul's victory - saying he represents "the most extreme elements" of the Republican party. Paul's response? He says Democrats should "bring it on"... and is promising the Tea Party is here to quote "take our government back."
But, now that he's got everyone's attention... Paul is under intense scrutiny for some of the stuff he's said.. like having to explain his recent criticism of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
But whatever questions there are - Rand Paul may one day be known as the person who put the Tea Party on the map. And with nearly one-third of Americans considering themselves Tea Party supporters, they could become a political force to reckon with.
Here’s my question to you: What does Rand Paul's victory in Kentucky mean for the future of the Tea Party?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Steve writes:
Given the fact that the lord of Kentucky politics, Mitch McConnell, endorsed his opponent, maybe he should start looking over his shoulder also. The outside edge of the Republican Party is flexing its muscle.
Nevin writes:
Unless he beats the Democratic nominee in the general election, the only thing it means is the Republican Party is in a state of disarray.
B. in Hamilton, Ohio writes:
I like Rand, but I don't like the Tea Party movement. Not that I'm not in favor of limited government. Certainly I am. I just don't think the Tea Party movement was in favor of limited government until Obama took office.
Stephanie writes:
Now the tea party has a candidate, they are going to have to answer specific questions about their vague, apple pie rhetoric. Thus far Rand isn't doing so well.
Kris in Sparks, Nevada writes:
Rand Paul comes from good roots. He is the type of leadership that the Tea Party is looking for. Paul's win shows Congress that the Tea Party is being heard and agreed with among voters.
R. writes:
Jack, I'm really not sure if it means anything other than the incumbents are being bounced out finally. We the people are fed up with it all. In a few weeks, Iowa will do the same but it doesn't mean it's going to be a Tea Party take-over. Some of these Tea Party members are postal. Only time will tell what their future will be.
Melanie writes:
We desperately need 99 more Rand Pauls in the Senate, especially after seeing our so-called representatives give Calderon one standing ovation after another... It's time to rescue our country from those idiots in Washington!
Jim in El Paso, Texas writes:
Rand Paul is a Palin in pants. He's goofier than his Dad!
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Quit calling it the "Tea Party'. It's just another Republican ruse, and although Dr. Paul may well be the future for the Republicans there is no future for the Tea Party as long as they embrace Republicans.
I think the tea party is here to stay. Their "brand" might need a little bit of refining but the group seems to have found a niche with those folks who feel that the other parties – Republican and Democrat – have let us down. Whether you agree or not with the tea party politics, the group is one of the best things to happen to our political system in a long time. Our two party system is broken. Gone are the days when people could respectfully disagree with someone from a different party. The tea party breaks up that power struggle between the democrats and the republicans just a little bit – that's definitely good.
What Rand's victory means to me is hope that we still can have honest politicians who will say what they really believe even if it's unpopular. It means that we can have someone elected will not try to run every aspect of our lives. There are so many conservatives out there that are consistent on spending which includes cutting back on all of our foreign wars and we have yet to be represented in the Senate. Just maybe after November that will all be a distant memory. We can only hope Rand's victory will call others to run for office that are brave enough to see that speaking truth can get you elected and it's what the American people are starving for. I do see a domino effect from Rand Paul's victory, not only in the political realm, but in the idea that we're not alone, a lot of people still believe in limited government.
-Dustin from New York, NY
It means from now on we have to pay alot of attention to exactly what he says. If you vote this man into office, you had better be ready for a racist, anti-disabilities, big money man to come to Congress. And remember: most people I hear talking are wanting new blood in Congress that will end this partisian stuff and actually get things done. The Tea Party crew will not do that. Pay Attention folks! You want more gridlock? Here comes the extreme Right Wingers–Tea party anyone?
Maybe now we can get an actual THIRD PARTY going in this country with enough support so that our next President can get elected with a clear 35% majority.
It's not what Ron Paul's victory means for the Tea Party, it is what it means for the NATION! It is yet one more in a case of incumbents, particularly Democrats, falling like dominos, to be replaced by someone who actually understands WHO they are working for! The 1st Tea Party dumped cases of tea into Boston Harbor. The current Tea Party is helping dump members of Congress who at best pay lip service to serving the people.
The Tea Party is not going to be a big factor in upcoming elections. That said, with the current questioning of Rand Paul's civil rights ideas, he's going nowhere fast and the GOPs are now stuck w/a big loser.
Maria
Brunswick,MD
I have hope that the tea party movement will continue to grow and that we will be able to influence many other elections so that we can get this country back to what made it great. Obama and his cohorts in Congress are dismantling our economy and driving us into massive debt from which we will be unable to recover if it is not stopped soon. People are beginning to realize and they are fighting back.
Was Lester Maddox a big win for Georgia? Paul has many of the same views.
We will have to see what type of legislature his becomes. Washington has a strange effect on people as we all know.
We finally getting our sense of logic, pride and patriotism back!.. Extreme left was what was needed to awake us up!. We will take our country back. After all in some respects "CHANGE" is good.
Jerry
CA.
A momentary cause for celebration that will lead to an even bigger cause for celebration for the dems when they win the general election. I actually respect Paul's integrity and intellect, and even some of his positions, but like his father, many of his positions are totally whacked out, and totally impractical. I think the tea-baggers are getting way too much press because they're loud. But, I think they are actually way too few to win in a general election.
The Tea Party will have a harder time distancing itself from Rand Paul's racism, than from those racist signs held up at their rallies. I don't think they had a future anyways you, can't run a country with Sarah Palin's ideas. I think the Tea Party's future, like hers, is to damage the Republican party, and I think the Republican party brought this upon themselves.
America wants to get get back to the Constitution, and out with the Progressives (which is not progressive but backward in every form).
Joan
Mn
I think Paul's victory shows mainly the general dissatisfaction of the voters for incumbents, not specifically those in the Tea Oarty groups.
I do, however, think that the statements attributed to Paul today, that he thinks businesses have the right to discriminate, may be a little closer to what the Tea Party folks might want to see.
Now the tea party has a candidate, they are going to have to answer specific questions about their vague, apple pie rhetoric. Thus far Rand isn't doins so well.
Confirmation and definition of people who believe in "Dark Ages of Time."
Jack, I'm not sure if it's a Tea Party victory or more of a statement that the 51% of us who are paying taxes are pretty fed up and house cleaning has begun. Either move, get off the pot, or start doing your job as we elected you to do, or we'll find someone else. As I see it now we sure as hell can't elect anyone worse, we already have those individuals in office. You were elected to represent US, and not your personal agenda, and that goes right up the bottom feeder chain.
Zip. Nada. Nil. About all he can handle is one mouth at a time – and it's not even his own. Of course, he could do us all a favor and wire Sister Sarah's mouth shut.
It would only mean something if they form a third party and run him as their candidate for President. The Republican party is dying out with the Democarcts not far behind. The answer is to form a real third party otherwise all they will do is split the votes and everything will remain the same maybe that is their real goal.
It provides a couple more ears inside the GOP. One election victory does not create a wave.
It means that there are a lot of people who want to take their country back. Back to the 1850s with privately allowed segregation and fewer rights for women. As an old white guy I wouldn't mind going back to the country I was originally promised by my parents in the 50s. Objectively, I realize the generally more level playing field and opportunities for all Americans is the way to go
Paul's a Palin in pants:) He's goofier than his Dad!
In view of Paul's recent comments about civil rights and the ADA, the teabaggers apparently had their heads under water while they brewed their tea. Paul is running for high office and is apparently ignorant of recent American history and matters of law that the average landlord or businessperson knows. Someone needs to ask Mr. Paul what he believes the purpose of the civil rights act to be and WHY it took the action of the FEDERAL government. How can such a well educated person be so ignarant? The answer to that question might be the answer to our most serious national problems :o)
Given the fact that the lord of Kentucky politics, Mitch McConnell, endorsed his opponent, maybe HE should start looking over his shoulder also..The outside edge of the Repubs are flexing their muscle..
What it means is a possible pickup of a seat for Democrats in November. Rand's ideas about civil rights seem to herald back to the 1950's, at least when it comes to what private business owners should be allowed to do, and I don't think Kentucky is ready to take that large of a step backwards.
Rand Paul's victory in Kentucky just reassures me to vote Democrat come this November. The party of "No" backed by the tea-party movement is indeed a political force to reckon with just how unproductive and divisive the GOP are. Obama may not be the best thing since slice bread but I will continue to take my chances with him and the Democrat establishment.
Rand Paul's ideology, 1920 reawakened, should not come as a surprise to anyone.
White, Arkansan, Republican, and a Southern Kentucky transplant (Bowling Green).
He is as racist as Trent Lott (MS) who was removed from the senate leadership in December 2002. And while the majority of Republicans may not be racist, the number is staggering and racism lingers just below the surface. His comment, "We want to TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY" is a racist call intended to garner his Klan.
As I remarked several times over the past 2-3 years, the KKK has not died and disappeared,
they simply took off their hoods and cloaks, put on suits and registered in the Republican party.
I live among these people (Kentucky and Indiana) and know them well.
Nothing. The Tea Party will not represent mainstream America ever. The reason Rand won, is we are tired of the same old six term politicians ruining our country.
Nothing yet Jack. It was only a primary and when you look at Kentucky's primary numbers, they prove his win means nothing, yet. Those numbers include the fact that the loser in Kentucky's Democratic primary, received more votes than the winner of that state's Republican primary, one Rand Paul. If Paul wins in the general, then we'll talk, until then, 6 months is a .lifetime in politics, anything can happen. The future of the Tea Party movement depends on a Paul win, otherwise there's no momentum to keep the movement moving, anger is tiring.
It says that a man who supports private businesses being able to be racists, and to say that they DO NOT want peole who are chinese, or indians, or latinos, or African Americans, or other ethnicities to shop in their stores, or eat in their restaurants. Rand Paul would like to go back to beofre the civil rights laws were passed in the 1960's – THE MAN IS A DISGRACEFUL SUPPORTER OF RACISTS! !
Bid for presidency!
Paul was one of the leading voices of the Tea Party movement – known for its anti-big government, anti-tax, anti-establishment positions.
"the most extreme elements" – if "WE" ever needed that, "NOWS THE TIME!"
I already know.. they are getting him ready to run against OBAMA.
I think it means that the tea party has no idea what they stand for.
The Tea Party hasn't had any success on a national level; Rand Paul's loss in November will solidify its status as a half-baked mob.
It means the 1950's mindset still alive in some parts of the country, and some people in the far right wing, really believe in segregation and the concept of a White Master race.
Racism is racism, and you cannot justify it or spin it in any shape or form. This is the XXI century and that kind of backwards thinking does not longer belong in society.
After last night's comments about Civil Rights laws, I think the Tea Party people have tow choices: (1) unmask themselves as extreme bigots, or (2) run away from Dr. Paul as fast as they can. Unfortunately, it only takes one 'bad apple' to spoil a grassroots effort.
It means quite simply that Republicans and Democrats alike should look out because we are either going to see Ron Paul or Rand Paul become the next President in 2012, I say Ron Paul will run in 2012 and will win if he's nominated what do you think Jack?
Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)
Another example of Republicans wanting business, companies, corporations, industries to regulate themselves.
Would Rand Paul feel the same way if he were of a different race or ethnic group?
I Think NOT!
Rand Paul's view on civil rights exposes a vital Tea Party cum RNC grassroot position. Am surprised that you are surprised, and think its a question. The Tea Party is lead by Regressives, and followed by a less informed crowd.
They have a view of the "bailout", but refuse to understand the circumstances that led to "TARP". They love the constitution, but hate the seperation of church and state. They want a smaller Govt, but would like to nuke Iran...etc of conflicting views.
Goodluck to Rand Paul, but I see defeat!
Both the Arizona fiasco and the Rand Paul ruse are bringing back haunting memories of our own desegregation program started by Judge W. Arthur Garrity in Boston, which mandated that school children be sent clear across the City of Boston in hopes of integrating cultures...whether or not they wanted it themselves. It was a busing plan that became a train wreck. Please do not let history repeat itself!
Kathy Hayes
Marina Bay, North Quincy, MA
What it means to me to have a "Paul" being elected by the TEA Party, tells me that THEY DID IT AGAIN AND ELECTED ANOTHER IDIOT! You wait and see once he gets there, he will see, how he can't change congress...!
I believe the Tea Party is the "NEW" republican party. The values our party leaders are suppose to represent but fail miserably instead. Rand Paul is grass roots and without his values and beliefs we will be overrun by illegals and homeland terriorists.
I have always liked and appreciated Ron & all his family including Rand but that doesn't mean that I'd vote for any of them. They're all good people, I'm sure but they do have some Libertarian ideas that I don't completely buy. They also want to do away with most of the Federal Government and I feel that there're many things that our US Government can do better than private industry. Private Industry is usually OK but sometimes they do get greedy & think only about profits. Just look at what's happening in the Gulf of Mexico right now.
The Tea Party hasn't had any success on a national level; the loss of Rand Paul in November will show us they are nothing more than a half-baked mob.
I just heard this candidate try and give back the right for businesses to discriminate. This is hate pure and simple this is hate.
"What does Rand Paul's victory in Kentucky mean for the future of the Tea Party?" Not much – they will be emboldened until the general election, and will either get a bump or a dip in enthusiasm depending on whether he is elected or not. Either way I expect them to carry on regardless.
So, not much.
The message that is repeated often is, "take our country back". How quick some forget. Is it they loved the 8 years of the Bush Administration so much that they want some more? If not, back to what? And how far back???
Like most tea party members I am afraid that Rand Paul is a closet racist. If elected as US Senator, he will fit in quite nicely with other closet Republicans who are in that same closet. Plus, he is an extremist. We can only hope that Kentuckians will come to their senses by November. This country is in real danger of being governed by the right wingnuts.
In general it means that Americans are sick and tired of the same old politicians, and that Tea Party candidates may be around for a few yrs like those green party guys; but it also means that far too many people have not been paying attention to all the scary things these individual candidates believe and the primary results may not be remotely close to the general election results. Rand has a few more months to scare the masses.
He could be the one who puts the Tea Party up against the far right wall and not in the center of the action. His ideas will make him easy to defeat.
So far, all he's done is articulate the racist leanings of too many Tea Partiers, something that's been obvious to anyone paying attention.
I think he gives some serious validity to the Tea Party. I've not been active with any political group but I kind of like the idea that there is another group out there that gives us an opportunity to voice an opposition to Big Government. I'm really for just about anyone that's not part of the "Losers" in Washington now!
It means that the Tea Party group is winning and that people are going by their name and not by their actions. It's a shame that they name themselves after true Americans and people who are not in the know support them because of their name. Our Original Tea Party did not out shout handicapped people, and what about the 4 tea party men who threw money at a a handicapped gentleman in Columbus Ohio telling him thats all the money he was getting from them, because he had a sign supporting health care. It took 4 of these guys to gang up and surround one handicapped gentleman. I knew I could never belong to the tea party after that. That's not my cup of tea Americans wake up.
Judy from Warren, Ohio
Rand winning sent a great message. His follow up remarks about private business being protected from discriminating was a great mistake. I am personally appalled at what his views on this subject are. He may have blown it big time.
SOME of the T-pottiers will go along with whatever he says, even if it allows once more for discriminations which have been passe, for nearly 5 decades. But just wait until those active T-pottiers are in hover-rounds or use walkers, and they can no longer get into private enterprises to do business transactions or have a meal. THAT'll show 'em!
Americans are known to like the romance of warm cup of coffee with Starbucks like flavoring.. In much the same way the Tea Party has been arousing the senses of many hopeful forgotten and dismissed Americans. But a warm flavored cup of coffee or tea for that matter cannot rebuke the fundamentals that makes Americans American. American self righteousness has never worked and never will.
Far more trouble than they need right at this juncture, his answers to Rachel Maddows questions regarding his feelings about Civil Rights and Racism were very revealing and very frightening, the Teabaggers are already suspect, do they need this guy as a standard bearer ???
Peacefully writing and fishing in the great North Woods of New England
Rand Paul is a racist. He will drag the Tea Party in the next few months along lines that question Civil Liberties of many minorities in this land. Yes government may be too big but there is a need for it to regulate racism, which does still exist.
The Tea Party is here to stay and we are going to have to contend with its' presence.
His father was the only Republican to say the reason why the terrorist are here is because we heve been terrorist over their.His father was against the War in Iraq from the start. All the social programs that Obama are great ,the only problem is we have no money to pay for them. Americans do not trust the American government ,social securty should be 100% funded. Most American have a word for a politician who won"t sell his sole to gain and hold power,LOSER
paul shows the truth about both the republicans and the tea party. Steele should feel good working for Paul and the republicans especially with the way they feel about equal rights.
Who knows but his statement that the Civil Rights Act should be repealed should lose him a lot of votes. We probably should be more concerned about the future of our system that the future of the Tea Baggers.
I was an objectivist libertarian until a few thousand people brought down the global economy by treating it like a weekend in Vegas and took my job with it. Then it hit me that Ayn Rand is to government what L. Ron Hubbard is to religion. Let the oil spill in the Gulf flow for a few more months. If the government sits on its hands and does nothing and the free market fixes it, maybe the Tea Party has a point.
As much as I enjoy McConnells dismay, I am appalled that voters could support someone like Paul. And, the fact that the tea party supports him shows us what they really stand for.
One can hope that they will someday realize they are being manipulated and uses by the elite radical right.
Hopefully nothing! I am still waiting for Rand to answer Wolf if he thought african americans should be able to join private clubs or be allowed in restuarants since they are not federally funded. He did not not answer yes or no only going off in another direction. Well!
I can't see anything in his win. Most of us who once looked at the Tea Party movement began to realize that it is the baby sister to the Republican party and she ain't going no where. It will hurt the Republican party, which has caused decline in the American society this past decade. The poorer the Nation becomes the more it will move to Government social programs. And Corporate America is feed by big business and the Republican party.
It means that the Republican party has another wingnut .
Tea Party=Paul=less govt=do not enforce discrimination laws
Tea Party=Paul=less spending=dont cut medicare funding
Libertation Party=Paul=Sell parks to private developers and minimg
corps=strip mines destroyed property on the Govt. rolls
As the saying goes 'The devil is in the details" more details to come"
He should be more like he's father and less like the hypocritical tea party.
We are talking about Kentucky right? No offense to people from KY....er...wait a second....I don't care what anybody from Ky thinks, Jack, and if you do then you must be way more into square dancing and horsewhispering than I thought.
Jack–
I am worried Paul's victory signals more racist activity. I saw him talking about the 1964 Civil Rights Act on TV last night. What he is advocating–if I understood if correctly(Mr. Paul tends not to answer any question clearly and directly)–would set American back 40 or 50 years in racial equality. I am not impressed. In fact, his victory makes me more wary than ever of the Tea Party and its politics.
I think the Tea Party has a good idea, "Take the country back". But they must guard against being too radical. If they can enlist ALL the people who are disgruntled about big government, big taxes and runaway spending, they can be a major force in the coming elections. I think most people live their lives in a conservative manner and the Tea Party needs to encompass them. We need to be a land of freedom, not a welfare state. Look what happened to Greece.
I feel a big mistake coming on.
Both the Arizona fiasco and the Rand Paul ruse are bringing back haunting memories of our own DESEGREGATION program started by Judge W. Arthur Garrity in Boston, which mandated that school children be sent clear across the City of Boston in hopes of integrating cultures...whether or not they wanted it themselves. Even though I was only ten years old at the time, I still have vivid images of the chaos that erupted. It was a bussing plan that became a train wreck. The only outcome was cultural tyranny. Please do not let history repeat itself!
Kathy Hayes
Marina Bay, North Quincy, MA
Rand Paul comes from good roots. He is the type of leadership that the Tea Party is looking for. Paul's win shows congress/senate that the Tea Party is being heard and agreed with among voters.
Hurray for the Tea Party!!
Kris Miller, Sparks,NV.
We desperately need 99 more Rand Pauls in the Senate, especially after seeing our so called representatives give calderon one standing ovation after another for advocating our immigration laws...disgusting. It's time to rescue our country from those idiots in Washington!
Paul was interviewed on another cable network last night. Worth the watch. He wants to do away with the Civil Rights Act. If that doesn’t sum up what this means for the tea baggers, as well as about them, I don’t know what will. They’re the right wing lunatic fringe, using a name we associate with real patriots, as if that could actually hide the ugliness.
This is the view of the teabaggers he is showing.They are showing just how far back thier minds still are.There are people who still hold on to the good ole boy ways.
Jack, I'm really not sure if it means anything other than the incumbents are being bounced out finally. We the people are fed up with it all. In a few weeks Iowa will do the same but it doesn't mean it's going to be a Tea Party take-over. Some of these Tea Party members are postal. Only time will tell what their future will be.
It serves to illustrate how utterly devoid of good sense the Tea Party is, when they nominate a reactionary nut job like that for U.S. Senate. Mr. Paul has obviously not even thought through the implications of his own policy positions.
what does this guy know about the middle class he,s never been a member
The T-party is already imploding. Rand Paul is the new David Duke and, spent yesterday and today hanging himself and the bigots that power him. Maddow gave him a rope and he squeezed the life out of his movement.
It is over and you guys who have flirted with him will now flame with him.
If you want a bunch of racist's in congress you are on the right track. I still want an answer from Rand Paul when asked by Wolf Blitzer about African Americans being able to join a private club. He skirted around the question and by the time he was done answering I think Wolf forgot the question.
Hopefully his election will be the nail in the Tea Partiers coffin! His complaining about the Civil Rights Act and the Fair Housing Act will hopefully, effectively convince the country that the Tea Partiers ideology is just not the way this country should go. We need to look and move forward, he is thinking and going backward!
Vernice~
Los Angeles, CA
There is no future for the tea party, or any absolute ideological element in society.
Any discriminatory belief, and absolute ideology is discriminatory as if you don't look like me, don't act like me, don't think like me, then they kick you out. The irony will be is that any group like this will always have to make war on society, only a society where all have membership will be safe and functional. In the end, it will be the coming together of mankind that will raise all of us up and transcend the idiocy of man.
It means nothing to the Tea Party Jack. I think it will be more harmful to the Republican Party since they have openly endorsed him. You can take back your money and clothes and gifts but words once given can never be taken back.
It means the apt Paul doesn't fall far from the tea.
Get it Jack???? NEVER MIND!!!
It means the sleeping giant that is the American people is waking up.
Unless he beats the Democratic nominee in the general election, the only thing it means is the Republican party is in a state of disarray.
He just showed them for what they are. A bunch of bigots. It's no secret that the tea party don't care for people of color. Look at their rallies. How many African Americans have you seen on the news coverage?
It means trouble is brewing for establishment candidates
I think it means the beginning of the end for Tea Baggers, and for that I thank God.
It means that they will now have to face the political realities of being in office. It's easy to say balance the budge; it's entirely different to actually do it.
The so called victory for the Tea Party is the death knell fo the GOP's chances for taking back Washington. With the GOP divided and its base voting for candidates that can not possibly win a general election I would say its looking better for the Dems chances of keeping controll of Congress afterall.
That the right is getting more away from main stream values. That is why I am proud to be an independent. He has not won the state election yet and I pray for us all that he won't!!!! His ideas are frightening!
I think Dr. Paul hit the nail on the head, he is for less government, lower taxes and stands behind the Tea Party movement! I am sure the left wing nut cases are just livid with his winning!
Thank You Dr. Paul and thanks to youor family. Now lets get our country back from these left wing nut jobs who want to destroy everything we have worked for.
Respectfully,
It means the movement towards Liberty in this country is finally taking hold. People are finally embracing personal freedom, most importantly freedom from the government. What's wrong with a politician who opposes taxes AND the Patriot Act? It's the best of both worlds!!
Stephen
Fairmont, West Virginia
Rand Paul's victory means that the Tea Party is going to be a major force in the Republican Party. In the long run, this is likely to be an unfortunate thing for the Republican Party. As we've seen from Rand Paul's squirming in the last two days over civil rights, the Tea Party is a movement that is, to put it mildly, not ready for prime time.
It means our national evolution is moving in reverse. We're getting dumber and dumber. Following the loudest voice often is a sign of this.
More ammunition for their effort to seize control of the GOP.
But it won't matter anyway, because once the new blood gets in, the vampire lobbyists will sink their fangs into the new arrivals.
Matt
Saint Augustine, Fl.
It means the chances for a Democrat representing Kentucky went way up. As for the Tea Party, as long as Rand keeps his mouth shut it will add some credibility to them. If he keeps saying stuff like he said on Rachel Maddow, it will keep pushing them to the fringe.
What does Rand Paul's victory in Kentucky mean for the future of the Tea Party? After his comments about the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act, he's the proverbial turd in the punch bowl. But then again, there are lots of turds in the Tea Party punch bowl.
Jack,
I believe this victory truly illustrates the racist side of the Tea Party Movement. Who are we kidding here?
Paul's win in Kentucky means that like we all suspected, the tea party is all about racism, and that they'll be gone soon. Heck, they'd have probably been gong long ago if the media didn't spend half its airtime covering the few thousand of them who actually exist.
Jack,
Rand Paul's victory is, or should be, a wakeup call to all politicians. It's time to focus on what's best for the United States and the American citizens.
I don't think it means that much. Informed and intellectually honest Americans would continue to be angry and we'll take our country back with or without Paul's victory. I think the real question is the future of the lamestream media's and other Democrat's credibility if they continue to misrepresent and minimize the Teaparty.
Jack,
You act as if Rand Paul has one an election. HE HAS NOT. He one a primary in which he got about 20,000 less votes than both of the two leading Democratic Primary vote getters. In fact, the Democratic candidates got about 200,000 more votes than the Republican candidates collectively. What this is, is a Republican food fight and before Paul and his allies in the Tea Party get ahead of themselves I'll leave them with 4 words - See ya in November 🙂
Rand Paul's victory means that in November "We The People" will finally get our say and we WILL win!!!
Dont really know what Dr Rand win means for the TEA party, but I believe the TEA party, Is less of a political movement and more of a cult with a secret agenda. I wish that party a swift death
After todays comments by Paul. He, along with the Tea Party will be irelevant, and the sooner the better. Just because 1/3 of the people may agree on some of what they say. Dosen't mean they will vote for them.
Paul is delusional like his father. Remember the debates? The old man couldnt even remember the questions. I am impressed how fast this rookie politician has learned the "Right Wing" double talk.
Rand Paul's win means nothing but shame for the tea party. Most Americans hate the tea party with good reason. They are bigots who keep insisting that President Obama is secretly foreign. Rand Paul is nothing more then a racist who wants to repeal the civil rights laws of this country. I think he is in for a big fall in November. I can't wait for the general election when he will lose big for his hateful views.
Oregon
Jack- Rand Paul's primary win shows that its the same old south and the same old GOP. Racist, ignorant, and intent on limiting the rights of others. Rather than do anything useful with their election, the GOP would rather spend time passing bills to force their religion and prejudice on the rest of America. Shame on them.
There's three words in that question that should frighten everyone...."Future" and "Tea Party".
Since he has commented and written since 2002 that private businesses should have the right to discriminate against race, and currently on Wolf's show that they can discriminate against people with disabilities...I guess the Tea Party and any party that backs him, should be called the Racist Party.
Jack, I have no doubt in my mind that you are a fan of the Tea Party as well the Ron Pauls. However, this Guy may not, I said not even win the general election in November. You are not only right wing nut, but extreme extreme right wing nut. You know what? You are in the minority hence it does not matter. Tea Party will cease to exist the moment Pre. Obama is out office and a white man takes over.
I cant wait for the TP to have some success tearing into the established republicans. Not only will it make it easier to beat the GOP in November as they scramble to the right, but the fact Rand paul has shown a "Palin Gene" where feet suddenly appear from the oral cavity should make this downright funny. Can you imagine a mainstream politician having to explain his stance on the '64 civil rights act? Pure Palin-oh boy.
If the truth were told Rand Paul would call himself what he really is...a Libertarian. Why in the world is he aligning himself with the tea party? If this isn't the time for a competative third party to emerge, when will it? After watching the momentum his father had in the last election, I can't figure out why they are still aligned with the Rebublicans, you know, the party who gave us the biggest expansion of government in our history. The ones who spent us into oblivion. I don't get it.
I don't read too much into his victory, he has yet to come through with his promises. Confidence is the feeling you have before you really understand the problems and there are plenty of those.
Rand Paul my be the FIRST principled person on teh recent DC scene. He gave a nuanced answer, just like the ones form John Kerry, Rachel Maddow and George Soros.
Now the Left has a thinking pricipled individual to attempt to superficially marginalize.
I ( an undecided independent who voted for Clinton, voted for Bush) think Paul's last comment to Maddow was key. He said in efffect to take (my) concern for private rights and run with it as a simplistic leftist battle cry is "intellectually dishonest".
Yeayyy Rand.
His victory will further divide Republicans and benefit the Democrats in the Fall elections. As the divide grows, the tea party Republicans will feel more empowered and the moderate Republicans simply won't turn out to vote. It's the best thing that could have happened to the Democratic party.
Well, Rand Paul would not have voted to prevent businesses from discriminating, he would close Gitmo and send the terrorists back to the 'battlefield" (wherever that is), because as Paul says, "I would take them awhile to make their way back here." He would introduce legislation that says that life begins at conception, and that the federal courts could not take cases that are "like Roe V. Wade" – whatever the heck that means. He's opposed to the Americans with Disabilities Act, and of course, wave Bye Bye to Pell Grants. So I'd say that Paul will show the American People just how looney the TP is.
It means that the South still is composed of the same group of people carrying the same ideals that were displayed all over the South in the '60s under the guise of state's rights. Fortunately, these views are not held by the majority of Americans, but there are certainly pockets in America where they are the dominant view. These are the places that you do not want to move to, but that Sarah Palin believes is the "real America." The majority in this country simply has to hold firm and tell them, no, and to go to their room. We will not abide by their rules, and those of us who live in one of those states or parts of states where those views dominate have to continue to be embarrassed by some of the officials we elect.
I think the tea party will make the next election more exciting than the super bowl. Their numbers, and power, continue to grow, and they will change the outcome of many races. Maybe the people can take back our out of control government. Finally.
I think this man isn't fit to be a senator of United States.His views are out of date in the times that we live in now.He seems to be living into the past.Just as his father is!
Foley, al. Well done. Especially after the fiasco today that we ameicans were subjected to our president and some members of congress clapping in agreement with a foriegn president , against one of our states.
Rand Paul's victory reminds me of Ralph Nader's Green Party nomination for President. An interesting but marginally viable idea that fizzled out. In the Tea Party's case, there's too many opportunists like Sarah Palin who will derail the party and it will become a faint memory.
So the tea party wins one ...what a shocker that it's the southern state of kentucky....his win means nothing really... the majority of Americans that means hispanic, asian, arab, african americans etc in this country understand there's a movement of the old school ways....but we will push back...we will not allow the tea party or any radical party set us back to the 50's ad 60's
Rand Paul's outsider candidacy gives many hope in a hopeless time. I just hope the MSM isn't successful in it's attempt to use an opinion on a hypothetical vote on piece of legislation that was enacted when he was a toddler to bring him down.
Rand Paul's victory gives instant credibility to the Tea Party movement. Now you know that we are bigger than you thought. It is real and it is made up of people who are doing their homework and figuring out where all the gimmicks and lies of big government exist. This is where we are taking our rightful position in the governance of our country. Those in government who seek to deceive the people are officially warned that we will expose you and dispose of you. You were put there to serve the people, not special interests.
The tea party is filled with short sighed fools. They are just going to be used by the right-wing to continue on with the Reagan/Bush jr. legacy. Just like with the event they took their name from. The original tea party wasn't about fighting unfair taxes, but in getting rid of the middleman so they wouldn't have to share the profits.
Not the death knell of the GOP – a warning shot to BOTH of the establishment parties that the American people have had enough of:
bailouts
government growth while the private sector shrivels
Political Correctness and race baiting
mainstream media acting as lap dog rather than watch dog
private profits and socialized losses
The victory of Rand Paul in Kentucky shows that the Tea Party has little hope for success in November. The extreme views that Paul represents may appeal to the majority of people voting in the Republican Primary, but it is unlikely that these views will appeal to those voting in November. This is a gift to Democrats and to the Democratic Senate Nominee Jack Conway who now actually has a chance at winning in this once safe seat for Republicans.
Eric from McHenry, IL
The mainstream Democrats and Republicans are driving this country into the ground. Rand Paul may not be perfect, but he's like a breath of fresh air. I don't agree with all of positions but at least he's honest and stands firm in his convictions.
Americans switch between Dems and Republicans every decade or so, hoping for change, only to find that both parties are ruining us in different ways. Good luck Rand.
Travis
Kentucky
It means that the tea party needs to formally organize its self. While there is no doubt that there are some good ideas in the tea party, more often than not they are drowned under the much louder, disorganized and contradicting cries of often misinformed individuals.
The inclusion of a third party into American politics is a welcome and needed change, just as long as it is not the party of the gravely misinformed.
Nothing. The Tea Party movement is just a bunch of grown ups acting like children in the park. Their solution to our present problems is in the form of a scream at a townhouse meeting. Please don't encourage them!
For the "rest of us" he means "TOAST"
Jack. This is an absolute disaster for the Republican Party. In order for them to win elections they have to be able to attract Moderates and Independents. But as the Tea Party pulls them kicking and screaming further to the right, the GOP will become increasingly unable to attract those swing voters. So far, the Dems seem to have been able to maintain their "big tent" diversity in political views. As a social Liberal but fiscal conservative I feel right at home in the Democratic Party. The GOP has not kept faith with their fiscal conservative brand and their views on social issues are to the right of Atilla the Hun. And, now comes Rand Paul who has issues with the Civil Rights act of 1964. Yikes !!! I could never, ever feel at home in the GOP.
Kentucky has stupid canidates look at MItch and Rand.Maybe they will wake up and get back to real people and quit listen to the Tea Party.
A Kentucky primary means little in the long run. Ideological purity helps you win among your own party, but the real challenge is winning the general election, where you have to appeal to moderates. I suspect Rand Paul will win the general election in Kentucky, though, due to the state leaning to the right in general. If tea party candidates can win in more moderate and left leaning states,then the tea party will have more a viable future.
Cincinnati, OH
Well Jack, you are obviously very happy we have a representative from the Tea Party, but your question is what his victory means for them.
I guess their credo of taking back their government means things like repealing the Civil Right Law, and the disintegration of the Department of Education. (he feels it is a private business persons right to deny service if he/she so chooses, and who needs education!!!)
UUUUUUU WEEEEEE…now we can have another TV set to place on top of that second broken console!!!!
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It means average citizens are ready, willing, and able to take this country back from a bunch of over educated, clueless, corrupt, arrogant socialists.
The Revolution has begun.
Rand Paul disagreed with the provision in theCivil Rights Act that banned discrimination by private businesses.
Paul's victory probably means that the tea party will continue to be viewed with skepticism due to its quirkiness. Attempting to cast themselves as what America is really about, they too often reveal a brooding, dark corner of America's soul. There may be decent folks among them, but their constant criticism and negativity seems to overshadow any solutions or points of light they could otherwise offer.
The tea party reminds me of the George Wallace campaign. Ole George thought about people in the state not paying Fed. taxes because we don't get back near what we pay in. Wonder what will happen if all the federal subsidies were cut off to his state. Not to mention Social security and Medicare.
Is he the Tea Party or the Republican Party candidate? How can you be both? If I don't agree with his idealogy, should I withhold contributions to the KY GOP?
Jck Conway is looking good!
It means they are nearing the end of their political influence. They are driving the suicidial lemming republcans so far out of the main steam that they may never get back into real politics. Its ok with me, by the way.
I feel that Ran Paul proves that the Tea Party is basically racist & sexist. I hope everybody takes a good look at his policies–especially since he's starting to hem & haw like Blumenthal did about his Viet Nam service.
Rand Paul's victory means the people in the State of Kentucky have become "Tea Party" sippers and put down their good old Kentucky bourbon.
Nothing, is the answer. This is expected from kentucky,just like the passing of immigration law in Arizona. This is why we need a stronger federal government, to keep this rogue states like those under control......stronger, stronger stronger and more Federal gvnt. Is the answer jacko.
Maybe the Tea Party folks can ask Dr. Paul to tell them which part of his extremely pared back and limited Federal government should monitor offshore drilling, drilling disasters, and the cleanup of oil spills.
I'd like to hear him answer that one myself.
Marty W.
Springfield, IL
The victory by Mr. Paul means a return to McCarthyism, the beginning of the end of reasonableness and fairness.
I think he's refreshing- Finally, a politician who's being honest, something the Republican party sorely lacks ( ie, the latest congressman to resign due to an affair). This is the year of Throw All The Bums Out. So whether you're a Democrat or Republican, be afraid.....be VERY afraid.
I'm so scared of Rand Paul. I really am scared of balanced budgets, term limits, A man that stands on principle and a man that follows the constitution. This is so scary. What we need is more taxes more spending and more debt. We need socialism. Socialism has worked every where its been attempted. He is a threat to social justice and his views must be twisted and taken out of context so he will lose the election. Government will save us from this crises. We must put our trust in the Federal Government because they take care of us and they know better than us. There job is to take care of me. Rand Paul wants government out of our lives. Please vote against him.
hi Jack
his election shows how racist and haters some americans have become. they know about his deep hatred for the ADA and other negative thoughts and yet still vote for him. he is their proxy. thks
michael
brooklyn NY
Jack you know what?.... The media sometimes tend to connect irrelevant dots .... The recent outcome of the primaries seems to be a basis for immature deduction of political relevancy of the Tea Party movement...It's only a coincidence of cause-and-effect observation...
Jack, it means that the inmates are running the asylum. I don't know about you, but considering the fuming inadequacy of the current political establishments to represent the will of the people, I trust Randle McMurphy running things, and not Nurse Ratched.
Jack, you mentioned that one third of American have the same ideal as The Tea Party? I hope that doesn't include the views of Tea Party Express organizer Mark Williams and his blogs about Muslims worshiping a "monkey god" and that all Muslims are "animals". That shows just how hate filled and racist some in this movement are and Rand Paul should repudiate these comments. I can only image what would happen to Mark Williams if he said that all those of the Jewish faith were "animals"?
Sounds like the Tea Party is the Hate Party!
Doesn't support the Americans with Disabilities Act, doesn't support major portions of the Civil Rights Act that limit discriminatory practices, is against abortion at any time even in instances of rape or incest – and would introduce legislation saying life begins at conception and also legislation preventing federal court from taking cases like Roe V Wade, eliminating the distinction between the Judicial and Legislative Branch. And, he was endorsed by the Shriller from Wassiler. And, he and Grayson got less votes combined than either of the two Democrats. He's just another far-right-wing-nut, What's new?
It means nothing.Wake up.All governments r terrorist & criminal orgs. Look around the world & u will see there is no difference between these kindsof people and Rand Paul is just more nepotism coming at u with a different spin.
It means I'm one of the happiest people on the planet right now. Being a supporter of his father in 2008 was exciting, but disappointing in the way that no one took him seriously. Yet, his followers were so dedicated, despite this. Now with Rand's success, its so encouraging. We will work to take back our government. End the federal reserve bank (a private illegal monopoly on our currency), balance the budget, bring our troops HOME, end the federal income tax, and give people more personal liberty. Please stand with us. Rand speaks the truth.
And for those who say he's racist, his views (if indeed he is against the Civil Rights legislation) only speak to his overall message that the FEDERAL gov't doesn't have the power to create these kind of laws. I'm sure he's for equal rights (as am I), but it should be a state or local decision, not federal (like most things).
It means a victory for the Constitution which both the far right and the far left have been destroying for the past 50 years and especially trying to destroy for the last 10 years!
Go Rand Paul! Get back our rights to individual choice. No shirt, no shoes, no service!
In the big picture not a lot unless he has some friends to get elected with him. One man will not remake the Senate. Ten like him would make a difference. But as someone who doesn't really like uber-conservative positions on most issues I have to say a balanced budget and term limits are fine ideas that I would support no matter where they came from.
Nothing, because the ignorant tea-baggers have no future. They have about as much credibility as the foolish notion of Sarah Palin leading policy. Take them all to the depths of the oil-well head in the gulf, and set of a depth-charge... Boom, problem solved. The sea floor caves in on the drill casing, no more leak... and the sharks can clean-up the tea-baggers.
Rand Paul's victory in Kentucky means nothing unless he wins the election in November. Otherwise it just gives reporters something to talk about as if the Tea Party TRULY represented one third of the American people. They do not.
Zero. Nobody will remember this clown after he gets trounced on the first Tuesday next November.
I've always suspected that the Tea Party was a slick, sophisticated 21st century Ku Klux Klan.
Thank you Mr Paul for validating my suspicion!
My prayer is that Rand Paul's primary victory will expose the underbelly of the tea party movement. They propose nothing, offer nothing, give nothing, but venom and hatred. They say they want
"their country back"...and my question is "Isn't it MY country too?" Who do they exclude when they use this phrase...unspoken in that phrase are all "the others". Rand Paul scares the bejeepers out of me!!!!
It means absolutely nothing, Jack, especially since he needs to win the general election to make it count. Many mavericks have won their primaries only to lose steam at the end. Unless and until the Tea Party actually fields a candidate that doesn't sound like one part 'Good Ol' Boy' and one part 'Flat Earther', they will never take back an America that hasn't existed in a long time and with luck never will again.
As for the voter angry that they'll harnessing, that sadly is old news like any other movement of its type. The voters will be swinging the torches and pitchfolks for awhile and then line up for their government cheese and crackers the minute the guy they hate breaks out the checkbook and cuts them a slice. You want real honest change in America, you who hate how things are run...get off the merry-go-round and fix your own problems with your own two hands and mind. You ain't getting nothing done by massing near the gates and throwing tomatoes at the guards. They've seen that song and dance before and they're just amused by the veins on your foreheads. They're not afraid of you at all!
It means if this trend continues and the Tea Party becomes a factor to be reckoned with, this country is in big trouble. After all the progress we have made since the Civil Rights Act of 1964, do we really need to be taking a step backward? Limiting the power of big government is one thing (which I agree with the Tea Party on most of those issues), but recondoning racial discrimination is just plain wrong. Rand Paul is a Republican, and now the GOP has to deal with him as an embarrassment. And don't forget, people of color are VOTERS.
I knew if Rand Paul won the media would pounce within 24 hours. Sure enough they did. If the media try’s to label him a raciest the more support he will get.
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Jack–
Rand's victory and the Tea Party rhetoric means that the imbeciles have won this round. But like any fool, over time every utterance confirms his stupidity. Paul's utterances will ultimately be his and his tea party's undoing. Their longevity is prolonged by the likes of folks like you and your network who overstate their success by suggesting they are a force to be reckoned with. But like their chief ignoramus, Palin, they will soon be dismissed for the closeted racist dolts that they are.
West Hartford, CT
It means nothing until these 'candidates' of theirs get into positions of power and live up every single one of their pledges and 'principles' and never waiver and never compromise. Otherwise they're just politicians like all the others. I suspect the latter.
Paul has put the tea party on the map so to speak. And they will score other victories. But they will only hurt the chances of any moderate republicans which can only help democrates and leave them in charge for at least two more years.
It is a victory for ideology. It is nice to say we should bring all of our troops home. Does anyone besides Ron and Rand really believe that would be in our long term best interests? Unfortunately, ideology cannot run a country. Pragmatism is what effectively runs a country - the willingness to listen and compromise when ideology and reality clash. Ideology, at best, can only be a guide, not a recipe.
Rand Paul & Sarah Palin in 2012
Lets take back our country.
Rand Paul's victory show's how the mainstream media continues not to do its job. They always give positive coverage to the racist tea party movement. These people are bithers who hate our president and the only reason is because he is an African-American. They have Nazi signs, calls him all kind of evil names and not too many people in the media holds them accountable for their actions. The Republican leaders never condems Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or other race baiters. Is it because they and people in the media really feel the same way?
Unbelievable! His victory speech to the tea party,".We will take back our country" . Everyone knows what that means! To use big government is nothing more than an excuse to hide behind their real cause. To criticize the Civil Rights Act is what one politician stated that the "blacks" did better under slavery. How can this country expect to have respect from other countries? God Help Us All!