FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Congress could pass health care reform if the men were "sent home." So says Democratic Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter from New Hampshire.
In a town hall type meeting this weekend here's what she said to the voters:
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"We go to the ladies room, the Republican women and the Democratic women, and we just roll our eyes at what's being said out there. And the Republican women said when we were fighting over the health care bill, if we sent the men home we could get it done this week."
Shea-Porter added that she wasn't trying to "diss" the men in Congress, but that females understand how to care for relatives and that they could find "common ground there." The congresswoman suggests that Maine's two women senators - Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins - "work very well together."
Critics are slamming Shea-Porter, calling her comments "bizarre, sexist and arrogant" - along with "divisive, uninformed and totally embarrassing." They say opposition to health care has nothing to do with gender.
A group of Republican women members of Congress came out with a statement that the conversations this congresswoman "claims to be referencing have never taken place with any of us."
Never mind that. Now that the Democrats have lost their super-majority in the Senate, health care reform - which seemed within their reach just a few weeks ago - is now slipping away.
The Democrats are trying to figure out other ways - any way - to get the measure passed. Time to think outside the box.
Here’s my question to you: Would health care reform be better off with women in charge?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Ken from New Jersey writes:
We already have a woman in charge, Pelosi. We also have a woman in charge of health and human services, we have a woman secretary of state, woman homeland security secretary, woman secretary of labor, women EPA chief, etc. Women are everywhere in government so what is the point. Competent is what matters.
Josh from Burbank, California writes:
If a man were to have made the same statement about women, we would never hear the end of it. So, why is this OK? And, no, it would not be better off, but I also don’t think it would be worse off. Everyone needs to put their heads together to figure this out. No ONE person has the answer.
Joanne from St. Louis writes:
Maybe, but I am more interested in seeing women in charge of all foreign policy worldwide.
Alan from Charlotte, North Carolina writes:
At this point, putting 5-year-old children in charge would be a vast improvement.
Just about anything would be better off with women in charge, and this coming from a "macho" male.
Ryan from Illinois writes:
Jack, I'm all for it as the Congress en masse has painted itself into a corner. Plus, these proceedings could be televised on C-Span, or The View.
Ken from California writes:
Sure, as long as they are not Democrats or Republicans.
Republican women............................NOT!!!! Pelosi women
Yes it would be better if women were in charge as they have more compassion for those that need help and are not able to help themselves.
I don't care who or what sex you put in charge of Health Care reform, because it can never happen, as long as you have the entire republican party, special interest groups and a TV Network dedicated to defeating healthcare in any shape or form.
It would also be better off if those implementing health care reform were required to use the program they pass.
It would also be better if anyone voting NO on a proposal was required to submit an alternate proposal. This would force the Republican part to actually contribute, instead of just taking the easy way out.
It would also be better if a fundamental discussion about whether health care is a RIGHT or a PRIVILEGE was first addressed. That's where the fork in the road is. If you think it's a right, you've got to take action.
Yes, it could possibly get done better if it was just women running the healthcare show. If the women in congress can control their egos. Women are the ones who care for the kids and their parents. Women are the ones who ask the medical professionals the questions that need to be asked. My husband is a smart man, but he is clueless when it comes to healthcare coverage. I'm pretty sure it is that way in 98% of American homes.
I agree that in our society women are the ones who shoulder the majority of the health care work for their families (from submitting claim forms to actually going to office visits with others to deciding on medical treatment). It would be SO refreshing if we could have decision making for the country done on a logical, experience based, practical basis... I know, I know, how naive can I be.....
One would think so, but then any woman who is ruthless enough to grab a Senate seat probably isn’t any better than any of the men who clearly are just in it for the money.
Would you trust those who have motive to murder you?
In my mind ther is no doubt about it. Women care...men scare. It is in a woman's nature to do what is best for another and get it done without benefitting themselves. That being said and the never-ending health care debate, with no action ever really intended to begin with by Congress, it is time to put it to a vote by the people of the United States. Let the majority rule.
Yes, I think women see the BIG, long-term picture far clearer than most men. And if 90% women were running this country, we'd be out of debt and in the black, in half the time.
Absolutely, Healthcare reform and just about every other issue I can think of would be better with women doing the negotiating.
Yes, absolutely, what a great idea!
Better off with intelligent people in charge., gener is not the problem – look at Pelosi.
As long as Pelosi is excluded from the mix yeah probably... can't be worse than the last go round.
As a man I honestly do believe that on this particular issue, if women alone were writing and passing this bill it would have been done in some form months ago. Women are more likely to understand the impact of how lack of access to healthcare affects individuals, families and children. Action on even basic reform is needed now, forget the nice to have portions of the bill but providing credits to buy insurance and stopping denial of coverage based on a pre-existing condition. C'mon Congress stop focusing on your own re-election and do what's right.
Health care reform would be better off without the politicians. The politicians and their lobbyists screwed up health care reform to the point where it is now.
When we were challenged by President Kennedy to go to the moon, did we put politicians in charge of how to figure it out? No! We hired the best minds in the world and let them figure it out. Just like this health care fiasco, if we would have let the politicians be in charge, they would have been celebrating that we got something off the ground and pat themselves on the back for "success" just like they did last month. Great success, huh Jack?
San Jose, CA
The entire country would be better off if women were in charge; or if the men in Congress ditched the over-sized egos. I think it has nothing to do with sex, but I think egos get in the way of actual progress in DC.
All I can say Jack is that if a conservative male had made Congresswomen Carol Shea- Porter's remark, he'd be publically castrated, by the lame stream media.
Don't know Jack,
Didn't Pelosi help to author the original Healthcare Bill? The most important part of the health care initiative would have been the public option. That would have helped the unemployed as well as the under employed.
However, it appeared that many Republican women took the party line and left those poor and lower middle class Americans out to dry. Some, like Michelle Bachmann thinks that the only poor Americans are non-white. Sadly most of the effected people that can't afford comprehensive insurance in America are white.
So the final analysis is NO, it doesn't matter.
Shea-Porter should have done some thinking before speaking. Yes, these comments are sexist,bizarre and not true. Knowledgeable people should be the ones studying what the needs are and how best to meet them. And, this should be done with enough time for informed and diligent thought. Not in a rush,rush manner. The quality and workability of the plan is much more important to everyone than some 2000 pages of hurried jumbled mess.
No! Women politicians are no better than the men at the games they play in washington. A simple two page declaration putting everyone in Medicare would have been sufficient since everybody is paying for it anyway and you still need private insurance to supplement that which medicare doesn't cover. Instead these clowns come up with a 2000 page monstrosity which only the lobbyists love and does nothing for those in need of health care. Should we have expected something else?
The problem with health care is not the gender, but the fact unscrpulous, lying, uncompassionate, insurance companies are the ones refusing that reform take place. Karen Ignani runs Health Insurance Plans of America and is one of the biggest obstructionists and defilers of decency this country has ever had to deal with.
It depends on which women we're talking about the far right, the far left or the ones who need the health care. Is our government currently better off with the current politicians of both genders? I think not? Politics is not a gender specific problem. Women politicians have proven they can be as competent as their male political counterparts and they have proven they can be as incompetent as their male political counterparts (have a nice trip to Denmark Pelosi). Drop the word "Health Care Reform" all together. In 10 days the actors, entertainers and celebrities of the world got more done for Haiti (via hope for Haiti special) than our government has done for our country in the last 20 years. Yes, John Travolta just flew his private jet to Haiti! But, it wasn't to ask for money (GM style) but to deliver Medical Supplies.
Yes – enough said
Absolutely and I nominate Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi to be in charge. Those two know how to get things done. Just ask 'em.
Gary H. Boyd, Scottsdale, Arizona
It does not matter who is in charge. What needs to happen is to stop thinking everything is an entitlement. Less than half this country works and contributes to the greater good, far too many have made a life out of receiving public assistance. Unions broke the steel industry in the 70's and the auto industry in the 90's. Unions are bankrupting city and state governments.
You want better in life, get a job and contribute. Do away with handicap parking and motorized carts in stores and malls for people too fat or lazy to walk. Being fat is not a handicap it is a life choice.
While I think women do a nice job reforming healthcare, they should be Independents only... the reds and blues have screwed this thing up.
Here's why, the Republican fiasco of private insurance companies ability to block treatment for patients while making a profit does not work... as well as doing nothing during the Bush administration to lower healthcare costs while giving extreme loyalty to insurance companies and to companies outsourcing jobs to get rid of medical coverage.
The Democrats way of Universal healthcare with the high costs that tax payers would be burdened with is frightening... furthermore, Democrats wanting Union members to pay more since they have a "Cadillac" plan can all get screwed.... I'm a Union member and we negotiated that benefit. If non-union workers want a "Cadillac" plan then Unionize and negotiate it or stay non-union and get what the company gives you !!! Everyone should quit the jealousies and whining...these same whiners did it to GM during their bailout with the $5 more an hour than Toyota workers, the bankruptcy courts did it to Union workers at United Airlines and the list goes on ...
The rich can pay easier than a $60,000 Union worker who reduced their wage increases over the years to keep the "Cadillac" plan.
A Republican company like Walmart already has Universal healthcare since they help their non-union workers get on "state-aid" medical paid by taxpayers. That's who Americans should be upset with, not the Union workers !!!
If women alone were in charge and they focused on compassion and not fiscal prudence, US would become bankrupt tomorrow.
Last I checked, the Secretary of HHS and the Speaker of the House were women.
At this point putting 5 year old children in charge would be a vast improvement.
I think it would benefit Health Care Reform with women in charge and I'm sure the House and Senate would run better with all males banned from holding any positions within the building and "OPEN SEASON" declared on all Lobbyist. to thin out the herd.
Health care would be better off if somebody - ANYBODY - was in charge.
Jack Jack Jack Jack
Ask your own daughters.
HELL YES! She has a point.
As someone once said, "That's right, the women are smarter."
AMEN to that!
Absolutely! How many men in congress have ever taken care of anybody?
It's worth a try to put them in charge, it's not we would lose any progress over it.
In general, we'd be no better off, but in specific we would be much better off if a certain woman was president instead of the current man.
We've run the experiemnt with men in charge and we've seen what's happened: exploding costs, poor care, millions uninsured and flagrant abuse. Let's give the women a chance because they can't possibly do worse.
I agree that if women were in charge it would be better. Men are being very egotistical about the whole thing. Most women understand the costs of health care better because most of the time they are the ones who manage those costs. She was not being sexist, but being absolutely right in her assessment of the reason why it is still in limbo.
I am not sure where she is coming from - but I am not real sure she is informed on this situation - Health Care Reform would be better off if the Lobbyists and Insurance companies and big business were excluded from the process - and I am including both GOP and Dem's that are in the pockets one way or the other of those that benefit from no change to the system!!!!!
Shea-Porter just said what most women have been thinking for decades. That's why I vote for women whenever I can. They are thoughtful, empathetic and willing to compromise.
yes yes yes women know how important this and their egos are not as big
I thought that her comment was just light-hearted and kind of funny. People in my family always joke about how if the women were to boycot organizing holidays etc., those times would never exist! Political men ALWAYS seem to be VERY stubborn in general, so even if it was just a funny joke, MAYBE SHE IS RIGHT!!!
Healthcare probably would be better off if women were in charge of it. If you think about it who cares for children and the elderly more often? Women.
Now if women wanted to be in charge of the war department I would probably disagree with that all together. The missiles would probably be flying during that pleasant little week they have once a month.
Why would we think women poiliticians are any less corrupt and beholding to insurance companies than their male counterparts?
Women are equal to men in politics. They are crooks, too.
The simple answer is "YES"!
Yes I generally agree that women WOULD DO BETTER with Health Care reform.....then I think of Kay Balley Hutcheson and Sarah Palin....and I change my mind. Women overall are more compassionate.......but then they ARE known to be golddiggers sometimes!
Just about anything would be better off with women in charge, and this coming from a " macho " male.
I do not thin it would be better if either gender were to be exclusively in charge, it depends on the education and gumption of those in charge. We need knowledgable people that are willing to find solutions running this thing.
I don't feel what she said was derogatory to men. I feel she's 100% correct. (and I'm a Democratic female) Things would pass much quicker if more women were in charge.
Of course it would. Then again so would the entire government, but that’s another discussion. We are, by nature, nurturers, coupon clippers, head organizers, and negotiators in our families, and that’s just for starters. I bet the combined experience of just the women in my neighborhood is staggering.
Jack,Two words" YOU BETCHA"
I totally agree. Put them all in a room together with a pole and let them get to work.
Will watch how sausage is made.
That's a no-brainer. Women are historically more nurturing than men. This health care reform has been torn apart so much and watered down that the intended purpose of the whole thing has been lost. I just wish people could work together for the common good... We'd ALL be better off in the long-run.
There is no doubt that if the men in congress recused themselves from this and most other issues affecting us we would have health care and fewer uneccessary wars. The are too busy measuring...
No doubt that a lot of issues would get resolved faster, better and even more economically if women were in charge. Yes, I am a female and know our abilities to compromise and cooperate because the testasterone is not there. Management studies confirm that companies with women CEO's function better all around with greater profit.
Yes I believe healthcare would be better off with women in charge. I am in a professional industry where I'm basically surrounded by women. And looking at society, including my wife, let's face it, they get things done and they get it done fairly and make sure that everyone is happy
Jack, I could care less who's in charge as long as it got done... did everyone forget the fact that the health care industry is exempt from anti-trust laws? You did a Cafferty File on that a few months back. I don't care if a man or woman fixed health care as long as they made it illegal to refuse pre-existing conditions and revoked the anti-trust protection. Thanks Jack!
I'd much rather get a sponge bath from Michelle Bachmann and Mary Bono Mack than from Barney Frank and Henry Waxman.
Obviously you have never worked in an office of women only.
Nobody in charge will make this work until the idea of "pay me first"
is put to the side and a leader shows us or convinces us that "we"
are all in this together.
Jack, I'm a 53-year-old white male, been an elected official and non-profit executive, as well as a editor-publisher of a smalltown newspaper in rural Minnesota. But I've held this opinion for some time - ANYTHING would be better off if women were in charge.
As a constituent of Carol-Shea Porter, it seems to me that her remark is only a way to distract voters from the fact that the Democrats have failed. She has voted for overspending, government takeovers and irresponsible spending that voters in her district do not like. Making it a gender issue is just a distraction.
Jack: It would be best if honest grownups of any gender were in charge, instead of the "don't ever let the other guys win anything" bitter partisanship that is the reality. Pathetic.
Jack, ALL legislation would be better off with women in charge. I love men and like women, too, but I used to work for a Republican (male of course) state senator and attended dozens of meetings. It was shocking how much the male ego and , well, testosterone played a vital part in matters affecting all of us.
Jack, I am a woman and do not believe it matters who is in charge, instead it is about getting your point accross. I believe there is so much confusion and many misunderstandings. Things just have to be explained simply. Tell it how it is and why it is a good plan. People get frusturated with what they don't understand. That isn't a man or woman thing its a simple common sense thing.
Absolutely Jack. Women are used to men not valuing their opinions, so that's our common bond. With the boy's ego's off the table, maybe they could actually talk to each other and get down to the business of fixing this country.
Yes, Healthcare Reform would be better off with women in charge because of the natural nurturing/caring instinct.
Also probably better off in charge of the Military because there would be no more wars. Men like to fight.
Also probably better off in charge of the Economy because they would be saving money in a sock in the drawer for that rainy day. Vs Men who would be buying all the entertainment stuff they could find.
Yes, women have done it all always, anyway!!!
You Bet!!. I have no doubt that if they sent the men home the women would get this Health Care situation sorted out. They could get past all the political crap and think about it from a person to person perspective. Not that men can't do this, it's just that they seldom take the time to do it.
I think everyone knows instinctively that health care would be better if women were in charge. Those criticizing such a thought are probably those against health care reform in the first place!
Makesperfect sense to me! You go girls!
Yes. Women are closer to health care and have caring and love and talent for health care that men do not understand. Gene
Yes; most Women could do a better job. We understand these needs better than most men who are use to just getting things handed to them. I bet most of the Senators let their wives pick the family plan. I would love to know why we can't all get the same insurance as our Congressional persons; we pay for them to not worry; they debate how much we should worry.
Middle class is a thing of the past. The gov't should increase all the quailified amounts for Medicaid; food stamps, help for the disabled; etc. WE THE PEOPLE NEED AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE NOW; MEN AND WOMEN WE VOTED FOR ARE LETTING US DOWN NOT OUR PRESIDENT; LET'S TELL IT LIKE IT IS (IT'S JUST A GAME TO THE REPUBLICANS).
Jack, This boy from Boston would vote for a Woman president and a new ALL woman government too. The boys club on Wall Street and the Government have done so much damage.
Good mothers know better and they would do a much better job. David
Me thinks those Republican women protestith too much. Every male right-wing friend of mine of course is dead set against it. The females tend to be more wishy-washy on it. They know the family members and friends who are in desperate need of health care and can relate to it. The males only listen to the Boehner and McConnell propaganda. The women would definitely be more likely to come up with a workable plan.
It is so true that it makes for a very funny joke. Would everyone who took these words too seriously, please get over yourself.
Yes! Women are in charge of health care in most families. Women see the reality of reform and the needs of the family as they are affected by change. Health care isn't about political party or power. It is about the needs of real people.
Jack, I truly feel that women could do a much better job in Congress
and the White House. For one thing we would get rid of those
"good ole boys" that get mired in their huge egos. Look at
the mess this country is in. Could women possibly do any worse?
I don't think so.
well woman might do a great job and id be behind it for a while but then once they fallow the lead of the men who have made a mess of everything and made deals in the sinbeds of washington im sure they also will be in the same line for a special deal ofeir perspecyive areas just like the fellos before them
no lets try the haitians whatever theyre needing right now should be just fine with us...right?
To answer your question:
Hillary Clinton and Nacy Pelosi.
I think the women of the United States need to be heard on this issue of health care. We are the ones who deal with this subject the most when it comes to children and family so tell our congressmen to listen to what our chosen women leaders have to say!
Of course they could,just like you can get out of a grocery store a lot faster if you don't have a guy at the register.
Of course women could get the job done better than men. Look at all a woman can accomplish in one day to run a home, family and/or business. A man has tunnel vision and responds only to: what can the insurance companyies do for ME.
It's not about genitalia Jack, it's about money. The Health Insurance industry has spent millions spreading lies to, and buying votes from, both men and women. Lobby and campaign reform anyone?
Strong words but maybe thats not a bad idea. Trillion dollar deficit and and a recession. All part of a man controlled world.
I think the women should get together and come up with their own healthcare bill. Think about it... Women are the ones who primarily take the kids to the Doctor. Not to mention they suffer the greatest ordeal in child rearing.
All I keep hearing is political games between 2 parties. Where states are trying to gain over what's important for the nation as a whole.
I believe the women can over come politics and state gains to take care of the disease called our "Poor Healthcare System".
It's time they all put up, or shut up.
I think if the Health Care was left up to women it would have passed many years ago. This is not a sexist comment just a fact that women are usually the care givers and nurtureres and know what is needed.
Yes Jack it will be better..
Women bring humans on this world and are more human than the man.
It is actually only one reason and point in health care..
It's not the money!!It's humanity..Jack
Others like countries in Europe see that that way..
Why don't we??
We should give them a shot. What we've been doing has'nt worked.
Maybe? The issue here is size. If they broke this huge complicated bill down to a bunch of 2 paragraph law – laws like, it is now illegal to cancel health insurance when people get sick, or it is now illegal to deny coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, or it is now illegal to rate policies based on sex age or pre-existing conditions, or all insurance companies must now comply with all anti-trust laws, or it is now illegal for any insurance company or their affiliates to sell both health insurance and liability insurance to hospitals and doctors, etc, etc, then it would be very interesting to see individual congressmen either R or D argue against these cases.
She has demonstrated her ignorance of the issue by attempting to degrade the male sex. All of this while we have the most incompetent government run mostly by women here in Washington State. Thank God we have enough votes to get Senator Murray out of office soon!
Sending the men home is the best idea yet! Who exactly do you think takes care of the elderly, fights through the bureaucracy, and tries to preserve any assets the elderly may have.
It isn't the guys in Congress, that's for sure. Maybe it is the woman at home who has had to pay the bills, balance the budget, and now has Mom back home?
Yes Jack I think Health Care would move right along if Women took over the Congress just for this issue. Not only is the Medical Field predominintly women (I was a nurse for 23 years) but we tend to yje elderly, raise children (often without a partner) budget monthly incomes, pay bills, but food and are usually the first line of defense in getting the proper health care, insurence, and education for the next generation.
If women took over the Health Care issue they could drop all the party retoric and focus on the real life issues that Congress has apparently forgotton. Dongress at present is so out of touch with what the American people really need that all they can do is fight over issues that in the long run will not even touch what really is wrong with health care.
Yes, politics in general would be better with women in charge. Healthcare for example. The men in their suits with great government benefits have the nerve to deny a public option for health care. I have a sister who was once a middle class person and her ex-husband didn't pay a payment on her premium now she has a crappy plan and owes thousands and thousands of dollars for cancer treatment. She was diagnosed 2 months after she lost her health care. I want to move from NJ to western PA and my only choice is cobra which will cost $1200 a month for myself and my daughter, I can't afford that. What is wrong with the republicans? Don't they see a public option will not hurt anyone's current health care? I have pre-existing conditions so if I quit my job to move to PA I was told I could not get affordable health care. I am angry that the 'men' make all the decisions for the country. How can those who do not support a public option be so stupid, they may find themselves in a situation someday like my sister who is now caretaker of my mother who has Alzheimer's, gets social security but owes a lot of money and is afraid to go back to get checkups for any recurrence of her cancer because her insurance barely covers it.
Angry in New Jersey
Women are not more qualified then men. It depends on the person and their own feelings about what healthcare should cover. As a prolife woman I wound not want abortion covered in the US or the military. I would also not want Viagra covered as well.
There are women that would vote totally opposite then me. In a way I am glad women don't have the say.
I've never responded to one of your questions, Jack, but this one perked me up. There is no question women in general are able to compromise and come to consensus better than men. Every woman who is honest would agree.
Jack, last time I checked, Peloci was one of the many voices who grew quiet when the Dems were swept into office in '06. "We will hold the Repubs accountable they said." In 2010 they haven't even served the American people let alone deal with the fat elephants.
Last time I checked, Palin said that being able to see Putin from her house qualifies her to be "experienced" on foreign policy.
Last time I checked, Republicans sent pretty blonds to spread misinformation.
So I know now that progress cannot even be made with the smell of perfume, but rather the sweet stench of money.
My wife told me that I think women would solve all our problems.
San Antonio, Texas
IF that would get it done then WE, the Americans are all for it... and yes I speak for all Americans when I say we want a better system for getting things done.
Get it done and if it fails then we improve... but gridlock is the worst of all worlds... get it done!
Who cares if it was true, opinionated, sexist or otherwise – get it done!!
Get it done already... geez!
Well women would probably work it out better and quicker because they are more able to compromise. Where as men have a lot of ego and competition issues, also they are more self serving. I think the real problem is that the Dems don't realize that 59 is still a SUPER majority and they have the ability to pass legislation if they only had some GUTS!
I guess you'll have to take this as a bit tongue-in-cheek but this has to be the 'stupiedest' question I've ever seen here. No comment,
Yes, Healthcare would be solved if women were in charge. There would be no argument over universal coverage. Please dont give up the fight for universal health care.
yes. We've been trying to reform and improve health care since the 40's. The majority of Congress being men, one would have to assume they can't do it. They can't agree or make any compromises that benefit the American people. We have a non functioning government which seems to be committed only to the corporations and institutions who buy them
Jack, it takes a New England woman to tell it like it is. There are a lot of things that women could run better than men.....try sorting out Haiti, for instance. I don't know about health care, but women are accustomed to dealing with taking care of children, figuring out how to feed people,
running car pools. Men always have an agenda....even John Travolta, who not only flew in supplies, but dumped off some Scientologist ministers to boot.
If I had a magic wand to accomplish putting the women in charge
of the health care (insurance reform) bill I would put it to use
IMMEDIATELY. I wouldn't stop there either, I would put them
in charge of all that bloated military spending as well.
A cap on all testosterone driven spending will serve this country well.
Being a woman I think a lot of life's problems could be resolved if a group of women sat down together. However, Congress cannot be helped. Congress would be inefficient with all women, just as it is with both sexes. They are pathetic! Unless our "beloved" elected officials pass a healthcare bill that provides true reform (without all the partisanship and posturing), then they should be ousted and sent home with their tails between their legs!
Jack – you need to add to the list of adjectives about Carol' Shea Porter's comments – ACCURATE! As for the Republican women who deny ever having those converstions in the ladies room with her – of course they need to say that. Republicans who break ranks and try to cooperate and get things done with the Democrats might very well find themselves targeted by their own Republican party – or the "tea party" right wing fringe come Noivember!
Women have certain skills Jack, let’s face it! We know how to finesse our opponents (usually in the form of a husband or father) and we also know how to compromise. Women usually put others first and rarely struggle with an engorged ego. So yes, I think women on both sides of center could get the health care thing done!
I totally agree with the Senator. Men have made a mess of the world. Give women a chance – we've kept family, home, and jobs. We have had to jump in to back and care for those that need help! In WWII women took over the jobs that men had been doing – who rebuilt the Navy ships, the airplanes, the factories, and even baseball going – in record numbers? Then at the end of the war, where were thesent – back to the homes and "told" to stay there until further needed!
Well, women have had to "budget", "compromise", and "make do" all during history which has "allowed" men to go out and "do their thing" and what a mess the men have done!
A rotation of women every week of the "month" would really be something to "go up against" in wars – if there were any wars if women had more say in the world!
One month a year, send the Congresswomen home. One month a year send the Congressmen home. It would be a good ten year experiment in democracy. Probably the men would vote for more weapons, and the women would vote to open more diplomatic channels.
ABSOLUTELY! It has always been my belief that if women ruled the world, it would be a more peaceful place. It is a fact that men's and women's brains are biologically different. No offense meant but, men seem to let their egos get in the way of negotiation. Yes, send the men home and let the women take over.
you got it jack. yes, i keep saying we need more women, and also some eco friendly younger generation wouldnt hurt either. unless we just want the earth to die??
Jack, non-partisan women or men who "get it" is what we need to sort out Health Care Reform and I definitely think that women who are in the trenches every day caring for spouses, children, elderly parents or relatives would have much to say and teach to the politicians trying to kill health care reform by lying and saying most Americans oppose reform. What do they know about the current overwhelming hardships families face when it comes to our unaffordable health care?
No, we will not be better off if women were in charge. Have you ever seen how petty and vindictive women can be? Men would have to go back to college to learn how to be that bitter. Haven't you had enough bickering with the existing Congress?!
Okay, we can blame the lack of jobs on the Financial System freezing credit to businesses and consumers. But, the Health Care Reform issue lays squarely on the shoulders of this Congress. They have shown us what a "Band of Fools" they can be!
Do you think a "band of bickering women" would do any better?!
Harry – Baltimore, MD
I certainly understand the comments made by Ms. Porter. One can argue that the white male is largely responsible for the demise of this country. Health care, banking reform, and fiscal responsibility would be more effectively managed by women; after all, they are the caregivers and money managers in most households. The time has come to put the masculine energy behind the more effective, compassionate, rational, and empathetic feminine energy.
Women would certainly do a better job at drafting a plan for health insurance: They can compromise rather than just blame the other side and argue without acomplishing the mission.
Yes,women plan for 9 months to have birththen have a spectacular body systemic event that yields a child that primarily she cares for for greater than18 years!
Women have a hands on focus for care and what is needed
Absolutely. Women are most often decision-makers or major influencers about family insurance choices; women are primary care-givers in most families; women often have the most experience in dealing with family health problems, healthcare institutions, treatments and outcomes – they also share health information more readily with others which increases their knowledge and sphere of reference. Women are often single mothers with children – likely the most disenfranchised populations for access to healthcare in the U.S. No question. North Carolina
Hell Yes women could get the health Reform Bill passed in a hour. They are multi tasker, with a better understanding how health is paid.Taking their children, HUSBAND and pets for care.
Absolutely! No question about it.
Of course. We would all be better off if Congress existed of ONLY women. At least they would get something accomplished, unlike what is happening today with the men acting like boys.
I am absolutely certain women would get a health care bill done. They are not as concerned with the application of "raw" power as the men. For men it is about winning, no matter what the subject.
Silly question asked to stoke gender bias. The real question should be how would you define the issues associated with healthcare. Many people seem to think that people are dying all over the country because they don't have healthcare and that a Government option would fix this. The issue appears to be that insurance companies need reform and a decrease in the number of lawyers with the 1-800 – SUE THEM advertisments. I believe we don't need radical healthcare reform, we need insurance reform – but what do I know, I am a man.
I am shocked by her statement. She obviously hates males. Time to vote her off the Island.
We need impartial government regardless of sex, religion, age, etc..
My wife told me that I believe women would solve all the world's problems.
It is a ridiculous comment by Shea-Porter and shows just how desperate her and other promoters of Big Government Health Care Reform are to continue to not listen to the American public and push on with their progressive ideology. Of course gender has nothing at all to do with government policy making.
I think women have a better sense of working things out than men do. I don't care if that's sexist or not, but from what I've seen from the men in our Congress, they are much more prone to black and white decision making and partisanship. Women are much better at wanting to come to a consensus. Particularly the Republicans who appear to just say no... This is not a battle for dominance, it's for allowing this country to move forward in a practical constructive way. By the way, I am an independent voter.
If women had held the majority of seats in Congress for the last twenty years, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.
I think that it has nothing to do on gender, but on the personality of the person. The women who say they can do better should put themselves in the position of the men and see if their opinions change. I think that the men are in a hard position now and I think gender has nothing to do with the way that things are unraveling.
i think that women couldnt do any worse than the men lets give them their chance
Not sure if better off with women is correct. However, we certainly need to get rid of anyone who has been in politics more than 16 years. This includes any type of elected office at any level. Women will bring a new outlook on governing and this will help all of us. I do believe that those women who have been in office like Clinton and Pelosi should also step down. It is time for total change in this country and certainly not to the far right.
Certainly women could do a better job of bring health care reform to a practical solution. When given the task women get serious and there's no jockeying for position if they know at the end of the study and recommendation their solution would be accepted for serious consideration. The majority of men in the political arena are so concerned with their re-electability they don't concentrate on the basic needs of we, the people. Moms, wives, sisters and all areas if our lives are tendered by women for the most part. It isn;t a role the majority of men handle. So combine the actual use and needs of health care on our country and measure that against the men's approach on primarily a business note and I believe you'd have to agree women would do a better job and they would get this job done! I'd also suggest that the DC'ers take a deep breath and say, vehemently, whoa. This is now a humungus mess! Flush the plan (?) now presented and start at page one and go slowly. BO is so far off base along with NP and Reid. Oh, I'm an 83 year old independant
who's ashamed of what is being done in DC. Where has my country been taken?
Men have complicated everything since the beginning of time,trying to see whose the biggest in the bathroom. Women in Congress can come up with the best parts of the health care plan that would cover everyone correctly because they will take political affairs out of it. We run the household and keep it going, but let the men just act like they are but without women in the household, it would fall apart. Give it a shot and when they do pass one that everyone can agree on, then we'll elect more women in.
A card carrying N.O.W member for years I grew up thinking we would be the generation to find away for the Genders to come together..Aging and tired I have thought more lately that Yes Women should run the World.Middle age white men send our children off to war to protect what?
Money, resources and Nation building to increase our power..The difference is that most women still are the main caregivers in their personal lives and Working with equal pay or not we still provide the most time to our children and elders I say yes Put the boys in a room with some tvs and let the Women Have a chance to figure Health care out... Will be Easier More practical and done on the exsiting Budget is my guess...
wow this is a very nice idea
who better to "cook" the books
I'm so tired of hearing women can do a better job.The last I heard Ms Pelosi is a female & @ present needs a new job. I will grade her a F! It has nothing to do with gender. If the US is supposed to be a super power why is it so difficult to get health care solved. It's not going to be solved if everyone is afraid of CHANGE!
I can't be wrong! Can she?
As usual a simple remark made by someone in what appears to be a small gathering has been judged and condemned to further the Republican train bent on taking back the government. Women are more thoughtful and caring and therefore would be more apt to want health care parity. That does not seem to be very threatening to the testosterone crowd, does it?
Absolutely health care reform would be better in women's hands! More often than not, when it comes to caring for others, women are less apt to let their ego (political ego) interfere with what is best for health. (This being said with a nod of recognition and appreciation towards men who are sincerely concerned for health care reform.)
Jackie, Jackie, I’ve been thinkin’
What a grand world this would be
If the men were all transported
Far beyond the big DC.
Jack Man Woman or monkey. As long as the speices in charge of health care are able to connect the dots of the debt,the economy,and how those wthout jobs lack health care and without a public option the debt can and will be beyond any number ever imagined.
I think it would at least have a CHANCE if women were in charge. In fact, I think our whole country would have a better chance if women were in charge.
BUT, only if they are smart women. And I would have to ask onee question. What part of THEIR campaign money comes from the health insurance industry?
The female dominated government here in Washington State have shown me they have performed just as poorly as male dominated.
I think it goes way beyond sex and it might be a bit over her head to understand it based on that embarrassing comment.
Jack, forget all the nonsense and put Health Care Reform on the ballot as a national referendum and let all of us vote on it. We don't need one or two Senators deciding our future. We don't need any of them. Let us vote for what we want and let's do it now!
Hell hath no fury like a Woman's Scorn.
I don't know what's worse,legislators who can't come up with something to agree on or the ones who are moretly worried if ther will be reelected.Why should they care anyway.They have the best insurance money can buy and by a new pay raise.
Those of us on SS wo built this country and sacrificed by even putting our lifes on the line are trying to figure what to cut back on again.While we do without they vote in big cost of living for themselves.How does the government figure things still cost the same.Isn't that what this is all about.
when testosterone calls the shots - anywhere, anytime, for whatever reason or cause or event at all, the imbalance caused by that inherent lust for power (which is interchangeable with money) spells trouble.
a MEN.. Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter is correct. Women look at health care for families in a different way than men. Often a woman has a greater ability to listen to all sides. She is able to work, think and do all at the same time and come a rational decision that will work for the betterment of the whole. This is what women have done for centuries. Send the men home for a while…they can play in their pork barrels.
It is about time someone told these people to get off the pot be it male or female. This is not a sexist comment and niether was the other one from the congresswoman. Political correctness has gone too far when a person can no longer say what has to be said!
Yes, because women are more caring and conserned by the sick.
we would definitely be better off if women did send the men home and settled the bill for reform of health care, set up of the guidelines, mandates, subsidies for the underemployed,etc., etc. women's egos are not so deeply involved with "their side" of the many debates ongoing, as the men are; they, the women, are more willing to compromise.....robin in oklahoma.....one of many democrats in the state. watch out inhofe....
Maybe it would but either way comments like that are going to take away from the real debate. Don’t be surprised if next week’s headlines focus on Rush Limbaugh when he accuses Shea-Porter of being a reverse sexist.
Hear! Hear! Well said, MA.:
"Put Health Care Reform on the ballot as a national referendum and let all of us vote on it. Let us vote for what we want and let's do it now!"
Yes, the women would do a better job. Those men in congress are egotisitcal idiots. They have no idea why they're even elected. They just think everyone likes them. Women could care less. They just want the world better for their family.
Old school politicians think outside the box? Most don't even know they're in a box. At this point most people expect politicians to fail at most issues they address. Monkeys with sharp sticks would have a better chance of getting out of the mainstream political box. If women have a fresh approach to the healthcare stalemate, more power to them.My kingdom for an original thought.
Yes it would be better done by real women. Not by the present who are in congress now, to protect their ego and have no clue of pain to take care of the family.
What? I thought they already did? Nancy Peloci , Michele Obama, just to name a few.
Yes, yes, yes. Women are known to be supermoms and work outside the home who have the ability to know what families need because their main concern is the health of all children.
I don't exactly believe that healthcare reform would be better off with no men, but I definitely think that it would be better off without some of the selfish, corrupt and greedy politicians in congress right now, men and woman. I'm 15 years old and even I see that the only reason healthcare is not getting passed right now is because of the politicians (mostly men) that are only trying prove the other party wrong. Frankly, congress has healthcare, many HARDWORKING Americans DON’T. IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH how they would rather see the people of America suffer than work TOGETHER for the good of all. I am so proud of President Barack Obama for at least trying to pass health care to make a change for the better, but the problem is most of the men in congress are acting like little children. The party system is a horrible system; it divides the nation and prevents much needed change. It’s time for the people of America to realize it’s not always the president's fault for the lack of change, most of the time it is the men and women put in congress by the people. So overall, Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter wasn't completely wrong in making this statement. Women tend to be more compassionate and selfless and truthfully EVERYONE in congress could use some of that.
I think the congresswoman has a good point. Traditionally (emphasis on traditonal) women have been the family caregivers when anyone from child to hubby to parents and grandparents get ill or near the ends of their days. And it rarely matters whether the woman is a full-time breadwinner or stay-at-home mom... they do the same. In general, men know very little of the different types of stresses this can put on those doing the care and those being cared for. Yes, Jack... I think the women of our Congress, regardless of party, can come up with a good, reasonable plan in short order. Let's pass a law letting them do so!
Queens new york
Sometimes perception could be real and certain,and in my understanding
In certain subjects women reason much better than men.I can say that out loud, women in most household have run their home economiclly better than men.my mom and my wife are my withnesses. women have to tell men when they have to go see
I find it quite humorous that she gets blasted for one comment when many men have been discovered saying numerous sexist remarks. Talk about sexism..didn't Obama just sign into law requiring equal pay? It is rediculous that this had to even be an issue. Rediculous criticism! As for healthcare, there are many people, both male and female, who are responsible for this bill not getting passed. The majority of people who are uninsured and can't afford healthcare are poor, non-white females. No wonder there's a lack of urgency on this issue..the vote is up to mostly middle to upper-class, white politicians who can't relate.
Politicians only care about re-election and not about the needs of the constituents...sad and appaling.
It looks to me like the women are in fact in charge. The last time I looked, Nancy Pelosi was the Speaker of the House. And, Democrat Carol Shea Porter has been voting in lock step with her. They are failing. Perhaps there are other women who could do the job, but not these two Democrats.
If they are in Congress, they are likely no better than the other people there that came up with these idiotic plans that they want to pass.
No gender comments!
It really does not matter who passes the health care reform. It is now a humanity emergency. Our politician should put their capitalist feelings aside and think about the greater good of the people.
I think Congresswoman Carol Shea-Porter, Democrat from New Hampshire, is right on. Women leaders tend to be less "testy" and testosterone-combative. Look at what they speak out about and are firm about. Their gender and roles tend to make them more empathetic, more concerned for unity, more constructive, and more concerned for the welfare of all and determined to so something about the real needs of citizens and persons and children.
WOMEN are less likely to let party loyalty and political power manipulation attempts trump constructive actions in behalf of ALL. Their historical experience of being denied human rights, of being denied equality of property rights, and of being the last big group of adults to be given the vote or have their opinions valued, gives them a special sensitivity to and concern for the personal needs of citizens and for the general welfare.
Congresswoman Shea-Porter, you go, girl! Don’t let the men or the women shut you up!
As a woman, I'd like to say probably, but as a Democrat, I remember the late Ted Kennedy and other men who introduced healthcare bills every session for decades. Gender is not the problem. We all know what the problems are.
Women are in charge of the health care bill Jack.
Nacy Pelosi and Kathleen Sebelius.
Jack, as a male I should do a better job defending my species-but also an older, white guy-who have been running America since its inception......weve made some mistakes--and yes, and healthcare in particular–I do agree with the congresswoman–that women could do a better job.
Jack, we're a generation of men raised by women... just look at the current administration. Do you really think more women will solve this country's problems?
I vote to let them give it a go!!
Jack, it's not a matter of gender. At the bottom of everything in the politics of this screwed-up (not my choice of words) country is one thing: partisan paralysis. The evil of the Dems is, while trying to work through that reality, stumbling all over themselves in an effort to accomplish one damn bit of progressive legislation. The evil of the Republicans (much more fundamental) is their absolute horror that anything might be done that would benefit anyone but the filthy rich (with the exception of fetuses, stem cells and former human beings in a vegetative state on life-support). Pass the Mylanta.