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November 17th, 2009
03:51 PM ET

Jobs created in places that don’t even exist?

How much faith do you have in stimulus spending?

How much faith do you have in stimulus spending?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty

The Obama administration is bragging about jobs "saved or created" in congressional districts that don't exist.

ABC News broke this incredible story, finding several examples on the government's recovery web site... including hundreds of millions of dollars spent and jobs created in nonexistent or misidentified districts.

For example – Recovery.gov says thirty jobs were created or saved in Arizona's 15th congressional district using under $800,000 in stimulus spending. There is no 15th Congressional district in Arizona. The entire state only has eight.

Garbage like this also turned up in Oklahoma, Iowa, and Connecticut -along with the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico.

The Recovery Board - which was created to track the $787 billion in stimulus spending and provide an unprecedented level of transparency - is chalking up the mistakes to human error. They say they report what recipients, like state governments or federal agencies, submit to them and that some of those recipients don't know what district they live in.

Shouldn't someone in Washington know how many congressional districts there are in Arizona? We're being treated like mushrooms here, folks. Kept in the dark and fed a diet of - well, you know.

ABC News also reports that the White House deleted sixty thousand from the count of those "saved or created" in a recent report because the numbers were based on "unrealistic data."

Democratic Congressman David Obey, who chairs the appropriations Committee, calls the inaccuracies "outrageous" and says the administration owes "every American a commitment to work night and day to correct the ludicrous mistakes."

SO HERE'S THE QUESTION:
How much faith do you have in stimulus spending if the administration reports job creation in places that don’t even exist?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?


Steve in Las Vegas

Why does this seem to get worse by the day? Complete ineptitude and bureaucratic bungling. I feel like the misinformation is completely out of control. The lies and BS keep piling up. Not to mention what the cost of this is. I sure hope Obamacare isn't run the same way. If it is, God help us.

Chandler in Rockaway, New Jersey

Jack, Yes, it's pretty stupid to make mistakes like that, but when the media (that is, you) holds trivial mistakes up for ridicule, it takes attention away from the main point. The stimulus was never designed primarily to create jobs.

Peggy in Spokane, Washington
As usual, Jack, the best job the government provides is the good ole' snow job.

Joe in Toledo, Ohio
Jack, This just confirms what many of us have been thinking: the administration has no credibility re: stimulus spending. The stimulus spending, as we find out more about it, has been in many cases ill-conceived and not stimulating in any way. It dramatically calls into question some of their other endeavors as well, not the least of which is their plan for health care reform

Mario
Let’s move to one of these fictional districts so we can take advantage of the stimulus money. This presidency is turning out to be a joke.

Jean in Houston
He's doing one heck of a job, Caffie! He's created not only jobs, but towns full of people to do them. Why so cranky? Try decaf.

Grady
Now, Jack, you're looking at it all wrong. If President Obama can save/create thousands of jobs in places that don't exist, think how well he must be doing in places that DO exist.


Filed under: Stimulus
soundoff (214 Responses)
  1. Tom from Philly

    What is getting in the way of any stimulus spending or the associated tax cuts having an effect is rising insurance rates bank fees and interest. The associated credit cooling is exacerbating the problem because not only is money being taken from people, it isnt getting in their hands as credit to finance purchases either. WAKE UP!!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 3:08 pm |
  2. Sheena1a

    This is more lies to appease the public for their erroness spending.
    It is coming to the fact that you cannot believe a word they are saying in the WH about anything.
    All the money he is spending, traveling and sightseeing and Kissing Foreign leaders arses, is just dragging this country down the drain. He should worry about his people here that are starving and out of work.
    Unemployment goes down because the people that are on it have run out of benefits, you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out.
    Its all lies and Heaven help this country....

    November 17, 2009 at 3:09 pm |
  3. pat

    i have no faith in either party.they both lie and we get the bill.
    Bring on the asteroids.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:15 pm |
  4. Joan

    Zero confifdence ! This ADM lies like we've never seen another ADM dare to fabricate.
    What's sad is we have another three years of this crap.
    Joan
    WI

    November 17, 2009 at 3:16 pm |
  5. Terry, Chandler AZ

    Its business as usual Jack. This administration is not unlike previous administration in honesty and transparency. How much faith do I have in stimulas spending: About as likely we will experience the second comming before this day is over.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:19 pm |
  6. Sherri-Illinois

    No more political rhetoric from the President or his staff! They did the same bone-headed mistake that President Bush made and that is putting this Economic Crisis on the back burner. Obama should NEVER have pursued healthcare reform while this country is in a Crisis and Recession, now we have 15 MILLION Americans unemployed and a double-digit jobless rate all because he took his eye off the ball to focus on healthcare reform that wouldn't even be implemented for 4 years!!!. I am sick of BOTH political parties and their ARROGANCE once they reach the halls of the White House and Congress. WE need JOBS JOBS JOBS! Not Summits! Not Lip Service!

    November 17, 2009 at 3:21 pm |
  7. Jackie in Dallas

    Which stimulus spending, Jack? The unregulated, unreported reckless spending of our money by Wall Street, given to them by our last Administration, and for which the recipients had to make no accounting for at all? Or the stimulus money requested by this Administration that at least has a requirement for accountability? The Recovery Board is correct...they can only track and account for spending using data that is submitted to them by the recipients.

    Now, let's look at the recipients mentioned in your commentary. Isn't it just a little too pat that one of the states is Arizona, home to Senator John McCain, the failed Republican Presidential candidate who voted AGAINST the stimulus money? Or Oklahoma with 2 Republican Senators and four of five Republicans in the House? Or Iowa with Senator Grassley, a very vocal opponent of the Stimulus bill. Or Connecticut, represented by Joe Liebermann?

    Yes, better accountability is needed, and yes, the Administration needs to tighten up and research where the money is going. But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here!

    November 17, 2009 at 3:21 pm |
  8. Tom Mytoocents Fort Lauderdale Florida

    Jack

    Fire David Obey. That will create at least one job.
    I hear Michael Brown is still looking
    Obama promised transparency .He never said it would smell good

    November 17, 2009 at 3:23 pm |
  9. Larry from Georgetown, Texas

    Faith is knowing something and the only thing that I know about our government is that I don't trust them at all. Doing the right thing requires real courage and honesty and to expect them, "The Government", to have either of these attributes is just too much to ask since they are lawyers and professional politicians. What color is the smoke that they're blowing up our .....

    November 17, 2009 at 3:24 pm |
  10. TD Southern Cal

    Hmmm, Jack. Could this be from the same folks that gave out billions of our tax dollars to large Wall Street firms, banking houses, and insurance companies and then couldn't tell us where the money went or what it did to stimulate the economy? Faith...seems like they are right on stride with watching the purse strings.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:25 pm |
  11. Sherri-Illinois

    Government's responsibility is JOBS JOBS JOBS! Getting this country out of this Economic Crisis & Recession. Healthcare Reform took over Washington and the Economy including WE THE PEOPLE have suffered and are suffering because of it. The Government allowed this Economy to spiral downward to double-digit jobless rate and 17 MILLION jobless Americans AND they did to FIX it asap!

    November 17, 2009 at 3:25 pm |
  12. Jimmy - Houston, TX

    Well they certainly couldn't be honest and tell us the stimulus was the total failure it is. So much for change we can believe in, just business as usual, only to the highest deficit in history. How can we possibly trust these people to take over our entire health care system? If the H1N1 vaccine program is any indication, this country is in serious trouble.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:25 pm |
  13. Rick Medina,OH

    Jack,

    One has to laud the Administration for its efforts at transparency. Without its web-site, ABC would have had no data to check. So much money ... and so many transactions ... handled by so many people is simply error-prone. It would be ludicrous to expect it to be error-free. The American people are entitled to and expect an audit process that creates an accurate final report.

    Rick, Medina, OH

    November 17, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
  14. Tina Tx

    Come on Jack. You know how Washington stretches the truth. Don't matter what party is in they always sugar coat business to look good in their favor. Wake up and smell the manure because it will not get any better until we set term limits for all parties involved.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:28 pm |
  15. Paul, Austin, Texas

    Jack I have named the fire ant piles in my yard. So do I qualify for aid for all the jobs that have been created by those busy little ants in their newly created voting district?

    November 17, 2009 at 3:28 pm |
  16. donna Pennsburg,PA

    Jack–I'm a white, 67 Yr. old Grandma who has supported Obama from the first time I heard him speak. I thought that this time we had a man who loves this country and respects the people who helped him get in the White House. Obviously I've become feeble-minded and and the rose-colored glasses have cracked. I'm finished with voting. There is not one congressperson worth a lick..

    November 17, 2009 at 3:30 pm |
  17. Joe, Bryan, Tx.

    Jack, looks like the whole nest in government is corrupt. Guess it`s our fault. Wish we could cut their wages by the percent that debt is to GDP every year till this mess is fixed and get rid of lobbiest. That would be a start. Getting rid of the perks and retirement they get wouldn`t be a bad thing either.
    Without the big money maybe we could get some honest people up there that would work 40 hours a week with 4 weeks vacation a year.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:31 pm |
  18. Fred R Deleon

    This is only the beginning....... common sense tells it all. We ignore the concrete situation and welcome the abstract issues without foundation. Great question Jack!!!!

    Fred
    Indianapolis

    November 17, 2009 at 3:31 pm |
  19. ROD Chicago

    None, it does not work. Everyone knows is does not work...except possibly Paul Krugman. What a joke ! And just wait , they'l want to do a second stimulus... and a third etc... so they can give taxpayer money away to whoever they want. I cant wait to vote these Bozos out of office as soon as possible

    November 17, 2009 at 3:32 pm |
  20. Jennifer - Winnipeg

    Not just any mushrooms, Jack. Shiitake mushrooms and good on you. We in Canada have had so much government 'you know' flying around, we're all just wild, no pedigree mushrooms.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:33 pm |
  21. BOB WHITE, Kansas

    Is it just human error, Jack? Human error i can tolerate. Everybody makes mistakes.
    On the other hand, and the acknowledged problem with D.C., is the cheating, lying and corruption. So which is it? And D.C. isn't "changing" as promised. To me, that is the big problem. What has Obama changed? Nothing but the faces. Just 'talking-the-talk' doesn't get the job done or fulfill any of the promises. We may as well have elected another damn Republican. The Blue-Dog Democrats are no more willing to change things. And they are on-the-take, too.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:34 pm |
  22. William

    The answer: zero! Our government has reached the point of the 'Peter Principle".......rise to a level of incompetency. WE continue to have problems all over our country, and our "elected" officials debate, have forums, and investigations, and ultimately raise our taxes. The media highlights what is popular for the day, then moves on, and all is forgotten.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:36 pm |
  23. Paul, New Port Richey, Fl

    I'm still trying to find the missing 7 states.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:37 pm |
  24. A. Smith, Oregon

    Jack, perhaps you remember the Bush Sr. fiasco called the Texas Savings and Loan fiasco?

    Billions of American Taxpayer dollars were used to bail out Texan bankers that 'supposedly' loaned out hundreds of millions of dollars for non-existent programs, never to be constructed strip malls etc.

    Some 30 years later, Bush jr. is in the White House and hundreds of Billions of American Taxpayer dollars are once again called upon to bail out Banks and Huge Financial Corporations. It seems to run in the Bush Family, Jack!

    November 17, 2009 at 3:39 pm |
  25. Leslie

    None. Here is the thing I am sick and tired of hearing the government say that "mistakes were due to human error" either find the money or fire someone. If the government employees are that deficient in there job performance then why do we have a system of checks and balances? It is time for us to hold all government employees accountable not just those at the top and bottom but the middle as well because that is where the mistakes should be caught. I mean I know the joke about how slow our government is but, the fact is the government employees have no level of competition or any incentive to actually be accountable for their work and to meet dead lines. I am not saying that this is the case with all of them but a good bit ( 60 %) of them could not work any other place if they had to find a job in the private sector. If a person or a company in the private sector were to loose or send money to places that do not exist there is no question that they would be fired and rightly so. So why do we put up with this crap from our government employees? There are too many people out of work and the economy is too unstable for them or any one that is distributing or accepting stimulus money to make these types of bone head mistakes.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:39 pm |
  26. Joanne

    Glad to see one of the main stream media channels finally doing their job and reporting on the stories we want to hear. Recovery.gov needs to be fact checked and would love a follow up report. Government doesn't feel they need to be accountable to the tax payers funding all their out of control pork projects and spending.
    Joanne in Nevada

    November 17, 2009 at 3:39 pm |
  27. William Joseph Miller, Los Angeles

    Why not conduct a poll to find out how many people know the number of their Congressional district? Do you know the number of your Congressinal district?

    The question is who filled out the forms you are discussing? Did they know their Congressional district when they filled out the form – or did they confuse a Congressional district with a state senatorial or state assenmblyman district? All of these are important considerations. For more important is how they are spending the stimulus money? Or even better, have they spent the stimulus money at all? I did my own research on a search engine and have discovered that most stimulus projects are still in the proposal form, but not actually enacted. I also read in the Business Section of the Los Angeles Times that stimulus money is actually helping the wind power industry. According to MSNBC reports, stimulus money is helping weatherize houses and remove lead from residences. Both of these have long term benefits.

    This report represents a sort superficial fixaction on one and one detail only – when in fact, it's very easy to make errors in terms of Congressional districts.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:43 pm |
  28. Tony from Southport, NC

    Well Jack, for a guy who promised change, it appears that NOTHING has changed. Still the same old political promises with no results. Talk to get elected, then try to push your favorite personal agenda. The American people don't matter, especially to people who believe they are above those they govern. I always believed that our elected officials worked for us. Guess I was wrong. They work for themselves and try to force us to take what THEY won't take.... government controlled medical coverage.

    Stimulous? They are stimulating themselves and the media is letting them get away with it because they are so heavily invested in this administration. Lies and exagerations. That's what is being stimulated.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:49 pm |
  29. Barbara - Durango, CO

    None- The stimulus bill was a total failure and the Blame Bush grace period has expired. We were told unemployment would not go over 8% if this bill was passed. Unemployment is in the double digits, jobs are still being lost and they don't have a clue what to do. Take a page from history reduce taxes.......not spend us into oblivion and raise taxes. More burden is being placed on employers and we cannot afford to hire people, we are struggling just to keep our doors open.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:49 pm |
  30. Donald in CA

    All administrations stack the deck in their favor. Remember George Bush told us that sadam had weapons of mass destruction. This didnt start with the Obama administration, he is just critized more then his predacessors.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:52 pm |
  31. Homeless D

    Jack, I have NO faith in jobs being created by the stimulus package! My husband has not worked in 18 months and we are now homeless, so I have no faith in ANYTHING the government has said.

    They could stimulate the economy if they (1) sent every unemployed person a check for a years salary at whatever job they had last. They could also stimulate the economy f they would fast-track those "shovel ready" projects that seem to be taking twice as long to really get underway than in the past, perhaps due to what one municipal employee told me were "extra paperwork and qualifications" steps to even get the stimulus money to break ground!

    HOWEVER, I do think that perhaps the real problem with the mis-named districts and locations you cite have more to do with the fact that the paper pushers who enter the data into the government computers are among the lowerst paid clerical employees, and if you think any of them have a clue what a congressional district even is, you are living in la-la land!

    November 17, 2009 at 3:53 pm |
  32. Lucy

    Ha! Mushrooms, very funny. I have a solution to this outrageous problem. Fire the people who can't count districts, and hire people like me to fix this idiocy. Right now, I clearly have zero faith in the stimulus spending. I graduated from a very highly ranked college in May, and have yet to find a job. Now I see why, the money is literally going nowhere.
    Lucy
    SF, CA

    November 17, 2009 at 3:53 pm |
  33. Mike, Syracuse, NY

    Jack, I don't believe they've created or saved a single job. Unemployment has gone up by over 3 million jobs lost since Obama passed the stimulus. It's a massive failure. This story is just proof.

    November 17, 2009 at 3:59 pm |
  34. Lori - PA

    Jack,

    And I thought I was bad when it came to Geography. As for faith in the administration, I don't have it anymore.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
  35. Dina

    I support Obama administration, but this is ridiculous. You can't make errors or fudge job creation it is too important. What they really need to do is say Bush left this country in such a mess it is a wonder that the White House wasn't in forclosure. Have a job summit with real people who have no jobs. When times are this bad and people are without jobs there creative juices start to flow. I'm sure a lot of people have ideas and or inventions that can help turn our economy around. Talk to the people directly get their ideas and maybe the next idea can put all who want to work back to work!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
  36. Paulette from Dallas,PA

    I don't have any faith in them at all. In my local paper today 319 more State workers will be layed off this week. This brings the total to 769 so far for 2009. It looks to me as if the Federal government and this Administration do not know what they are doing. What about the IRS now needing $250 to $800 back from taxpayers because they goofed up Obama's tax break last year. Is this even legal? I see no accountability. I'm starting to think that Obama came on to the American people with very sophisticated talk and ideas but just doesn't know how to execute the performance or never intended to do what he promised. Incompetency abounds!

    November 17, 2009 at 4:09 pm |
  37. Willard Gatzke

    (oops)

    Jack,

    If every American got the same bonuses as Wall Street, and the bankers got, there would be no shortage of stimulus in the economy.

    Will
    Canon City CO.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:10 pm |
  38. Ron Temecula

    JacK:

    Whoops!! Gee what was it that rolls down hill?

    Ron Temecula, Ca

    November 17, 2009 at 4:12 pm |
  39. Lou from North Carolina

    We all knew the stimulus program would not work because the people we elect and send to Washington to the Senate and House know how to work the system and have proved it by the pork attached to everything. Jack, 98 and 44/100% of the American people have lost all hope and there is no use in you trying to pump us up from our big toe. Fraud, waste and abuse starts with the Congress and they only look for it in people below them. I enjoy your program because you can laugh at stupidity and somehow not worry that it is chronic and acute. I think we both need to start drinking again.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  40. BILL, WI

    Transparency is equal to smoke screen. A lot of it is a creation of the administration's spin doctors failed attempt to make everything look better than what the reality actually is. What it boils down to is: If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with... ummm you know, mushroom food.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  41. Mr. D

    It looks like the stimulus money should be spent on hiring people who know a few things about the country-or know how to count. This is truly an example of the Federal Government running things. They are trying to run health care???

    November 17, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  42. Rob in NC

    I never had any to begin with. As an employee of the state (a teacher) I know the money disapears at the top long before it reches the bottom. I have no doubt the money is being used by someone but not for its intended purpose. ( The rich get richer, the rest of us eat mushroom food)
    Rob in NC

    November 17, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  43. Susan from Bham, Al.

    How can you have faith in your government who lies to its people so
    blantenly. Do they really think we don't know any better, when they
    are making things up out of thin air? This is just another example
    of inexperience and arrogance coming from the highest level.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:27 pm |
  44. Jane (Minnesota)

    If you are relying on information reported to you from people that often times can't even tell you who theri representative is, you get what we call in the IT world GI-GO – Garbage in........Garbage out.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:30 pm |
  45. Hannah

    Not an ounce of faith. They have nothing to brag about and they aren't fooling anyone when they tell us how well the stimulus worked. It's all about appearances, appear confident and convincing and someone is bound to buy it. This administration is so used to the media being on their side that they don't need to be accountable. So much for transparency. Would appreciate CNN doing a complete fact check.
    Hannah
    Nevada

    November 17, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
  46. GWTripp, Mch'sburg, PA

    I have a lot of faith in Government, Jack. It’s the people who run the government that I have doubts about. Our founding fathers felt the same way. That's why there is a system of checks and balances built into the system. So while individuals may falter, the system, which includes the fourth estate, eventually rights itself and keeps moving forward, generally in the right direction. In God we trust.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  47. Jamie (St. Louis)

    I have absolutely no faith in the Stimulus. I think it was a disaster that did nothing but increase the deficit and give political payback through pork.

    I really don't believe much of anything that comes out of the White House these days. Weren't we supposed to be at 7 or 8% unemployment right now? And, they want us to trust them with our health care.

    What exactly is a "saved" job anyway? This is political spin that we should be insulted by. Do they really think we're stupid? Also, has anyone stopped to ask if $800,000 for 15 temporary jobs is really worth it anyway?

    November 17, 2009 at 4:40 pm |
  48. Denise in San Jose, CA

    Blatant lies! Kind of like the daycare claiming more jobs were created, when in reality the money was spent giving bonuses to the current workers. That's our tax dollars at work. They should be embarrased that they were caught in such outrageous lies, not bragging about it as if we're too stupid to figure it out. Glad to see ABC breaking ranks and finally reporting the truth, hopefully the other Networks will follow.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:42 pm |
  49. Simonsays/Orlando

    What doesn't exist is an honest politician. This whole stimulus package was created by the white house to make us think that they actually knew what they were doing. This is another example of the Obama administration producing a "feel good" program that accomplishes nothing and then lying about it when it doesn't work.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:43 pm |
  50. Talitha

    Jack
    Democrat or Republican, they both lie.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:45 pm |
  51. Tim Walker

    What's wrong with that? That's perfect, who wouldn't love to work at a place that doesn't exist... What does it pay!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 4:52 pm |
  52. Rus in St. Paul, MN

    Same faith I had before in stimulus spending, none. This comes as no surprise to me.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:52 pm |
  53. Trudy

    We have NO faith in anything politicians tell us. We count on the media to fact check and report the truth. Hopefully next election ALL the candidates will be called out and not some of them given a free pass and taken at their word.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:53 pm |
  54. Rusty Lerch

    I am beginning to lose any faith in this administration – no real long term jobs, if any, record DEBT (we are broke), Health Care bill that is a joke, and no one is listening. I mostly blame Congress for the loose laws and lax regulations that caused our problems, and resulted in this lack and loss of jobs!! Rusty of Hershey

    November 17, 2009 at 4:53 pm |
  55. AJ in TX

    I don't have any faith in this President anymore. From asking people to snitch on people that don't agree with Obama, to falsifying jobs numbers, to bowing submissively to world leaders. Obama is nothing more than a motivational speaker with a tele-prompter.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:55 pm |
  56. David A Whitaker

    Jack is just internal problem in any large bill, like there were so much abuse in Medicare

    November 17, 2009 at 4:55 pm |
  57. Sheri D., Rockland County, NY

    We pay the White House too much to make continuous mistakes, if that's what it was. Maybe the problem with an intelligent and educated President is he believes he can slip more over on us. Bring back stupidity! I'm changing my 37 year Democratic affiliation because I no longer believe in democracy and I certainly don't believe in H O P E ... what a crock.

    November 17, 2009 at 4:59 pm |
  58. J W

    No faith. None at all. Not any. The bankers have been stimulated. Wall street has been stimulated. My money transferred from my account to theirs via the IRS, so why wouldn't they be stimulated? But for a guy looking for work, or a retiree trying to get a decent interest rate on his life savings in order to have an income, there's NO STIMULATION out here. Faith? Isn't that a companion word to HOPE? I suppose next will be charity?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:00 pm |
  59. Denis Duffy

    Zero faith, Jack, the same amount I had when they started this boondoggle.
    And, Please, don't use "faith in the administration, or faith in government" in any sentence.Church and state don't mix well.

    Denis Duffy
    Upper Saint Clair, Pa.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:02 pm |
  60. Gigi Oregon

    I haven't had faith in the government for a long time not since I realized congress was asleep at the wheel. How long did it take Arizona to wake up and realize this or were they too busy spending the money else where..

    November 17, 2009 at 5:02 pm |
  61. David of Alexandria VA

    Not much, Jack. The whole idea of measuring effectivness by predicting "jobs saved" was hokey from the start. Now the administration has either inflated their results or proven that they can't be reliably measured anyway. This was a silly, amateurish concept anyway.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:04 pm |
  62. Gary - Woodhaven, Michigan

    I only have faith in God.

    In humans I have an understanding that there is always a human condition, whether conscious or unconscious, there will always be error.

    Government seems to have more than there share.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:05 pm |
  63. OBDAG in Appleton, WI

    I have to say I really don't have much faith at all if jobs are being created in places that don't exist. On the other hand I'm certain that some new jobs now do exist for the American military and they are more than willing to hire just about anyone to fill the positions that are open at the present time. These jobs also have a fairly decent benefit package along with the job itselfI can think of several people currently in the Congress that should try out the jobs in the U S Army; it would help them to be better representatives of the people.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:05 pm |
  64. Chandler T., Rockaway, NJ

    Jack,
    Yes, it's pretty stupid to make mistakes like that, but when the media (that is, you) holds trivial mistakes up for ridicule, it takes attention away from the main point.
    The stimulis was never designed primarily to create jobs. The Democrats assumed that if you poured out enough money, the economy would rebound and jobs would magically appear. (Republicans don't believe in jobs at all - for the Republicans, if you haven't swindled your way to millions by age 30, you don't deserve to breath.)
    American jobs have been systematically destroyed for decades, and they are not coming back until the government comes to the realization that jobs are the fundamental building blocks the American economy. Everything else is secondary.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:06 pm |
  65. Stephen Fox

    Hahahaha, Jack, I laughed when I saw this report. It just SO figures they would do this. NO, I have no faith in the stimulus packages–they're bad for the economy, and between maintaining the golden parachutes of CEOs and this latest scam, all of this is nothing more than true FLEECING of America (read: wool...eyes...pulled).

    –Stephen Fox
    Panama City, FL

    November 17, 2009 at 5:10 pm |
  66. John, Fort Collins, CO

    If the Recovery Board isn't even sure where the stimulus money was spent, how do they know if it was actually spent as intended and didn't end up in somone's pocket. I am disappointed by the sloppy financial oversight, but not surprised.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:10 pm |
  67. Woody Blytheville AR

    Once again inefficiency, ineffectiveness, and incompetency rules in government, and they wonder why we are skeptical about a government run health care system. HA

    November 17, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  68. Adam Simi Valley, CA

    It is typical government-run anything. They cannot effectively manage any programs and are content with just producing garbage since they never have to worry about accountability for inaccuracy or waste. This is what any realistic observer knew, and objected to, from the outset of this ridiculous bill. The government is incapable of managing a post office, much less a nearly trillion dollar program giving handouts without any accountability.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  69. Sue Hoffman

    In a word............NO

    November 17, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  70. Terrance

    That's crazy this country is getting out of control and the very second I get enough money to leave CHINA here I come........

    November 17, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  71. Eric from Fort Lauderdale, FL

    Jack,
    Nothing surprises me any longer from anyone in or out of government...nothing!. I can tell you this for sure...now you know why I am an "Independent".

    November 17, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  72. Zack

    Jack, remember figurers dont lie, but liers figure

    November 17, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  73. Diane Dagenais Turbide

    I have faith in the facts and in the people correcting the facts and situation!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  74. grady

    Now, Jack, you're looking at it all wrong. If President Obama can save/create thousands of jobs in places that don't exist, think how well he must be doing in places that DO exist.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  75. Peggy/Spokane

    As usual Jack, the best job the government provides is the good ole' SNOW JOB!!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  76. Andrew Eden-Balfour- Regina, SK

    I still have faith in the administration, though after this blunderous mistake, it has gone down slightly. I mean seriously wasn't there anybody who was paying attention to where the money was going? I can understand that it is pretty common to make quite a few mistakes in such a large bill, but this mistake is just simply too stupid for it to be that forgiveable.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  77. Ken Buchanan

    Who are the members of this panel and shouldn't that info be made public?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  78. Sue Hoffman

    In a word.............None. Typical of the brilliant people working in DC. Did you really think we'd get straight accounting?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  79. Dee

    How much faith do you have in stimulus spending if the administration reports job creation in places that don’t even exist?
    How many ways can I say it Zero, Zip, Nada, the Big Goose Egg, you get my drift.

    Its a Joke

    November 17, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  80. KrossF

    Nothing is perfect I suppose. I worry more if money was ever sent to these 'fake' districts and where the jobs were actually created, if there even created at all. I would hope that the administration would not flat out lie and that this is, indeed, a mistake on some level.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  81. Lawrence A. Johnson

    Jack , thre needs to be a full accounting of all funds under this stimulus package.There is too great of a chance for someone cashing in to monies that are nondeserved.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  82. Annie, Atlanta

    Hopefully this is human error. The typos I've seen over the last several years in books, newspapers, and on the internet make me crazy. If not human error, someone has some explaining to do.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  83. CK Honolulu

    Two seperate issues. Stimulus spending vs faulty reporting of it.
    The jury is still out on effective ness of stimulus spending. Probably will be out for years.
    The people reporting the stimulus...well....they need drug testing

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  84. ronvan

    Well Jack, send my some stimulus dollars & then they can use me as a job reference. Whoops, I am retired so I guess someone would wind up taxing any profits!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  85. Steve Miller

    Mistakes like this are likely to happen anytime alot of money is being spent. There were millions missing when "rebuilding" Iraq, Past bailouts, and now this. We dont need more politicians managing the money, nor more money spent recklessly. If we want to be a capitalist society, we need to live like it. Capitalism means ups and downs, but that's what we voted for right?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  86. Joel Zwack

    The government is so far removed from the people that your question must be rhetorical, Jack. Of course we don't trust the government.
    The sole goal in life for pols is to get reelected, and the pols are reelected by special interests. Our intelligence is insulted each time we hear such a government report, but it makes no difference to the professional pols and the bureaucracy.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  87. juliana (smith)

    Sheesh. Of course the stimulus package isn't working, the bail-outs aren't working, nothing wil work, except maybe requiring all those big offshore PC's that pay no taxes to pay them. Capitalism at its best, eh? I can tell you for sure AZ is in big trouble, especially in education- 50th out of 50 states. It's going to get much worse. Thanks for telling us, Jack.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  88. Linda in Arizona

    Oh, gosh, I don't know. It sounds like the usual sort of snafu to me. I guess I'm jaded.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  89. Debbie from CA

    I have about as much faith in stimulus spending with reports job creation in places that don’t even exist as I had with Ira

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  90. Jim Cerreto

    Well Jack, of course I believe them. After all the Obama administration has a perfectly understandable and transparent Health Care Plan that will be funded by ..... well, more money that the government doesn't have.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  91. Jean, Houston, TX

    He's doing one heck of a job, Caffie! He's created not only jobs, but towns full of people to do them. Why so cranky? Try Decaf.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  92. Ted Preisser

    Jack,

    In the interest of "fair and balanced reporting", perhaps the question could have included the number of jobs created and dollar amounts spent that also reflect positive results. Without the other side of the coin, we don't know whether this mismanagement has been equal to 25%, 50%, or half of one percent. Let's have the entire picture, not just the down side.

    Ted Preisser
    Orlando, FL

    November 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  93. Dave Condon

    What congressional district is Disney Land in? Now the question is: Where did the MONEY go and who will be held responsible.... Peter Pan?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  94. Darrick B in Cincinnati, OH

    You're not looking at it the right way Jack. Just imagine how many jobs are created by having to go back to correct or double check the reports! Also, don't forget about the jobs created in the media industry by investigating this bologna! That's where you will find the most jobs created!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  95. Paul in Quincy

    We should not be surprised! In Washington state the administration claims 33,000 jobs saved or created at a cost of only $158,000 per job. That makes the payouts to executives seem almost reasonable.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  96. David in Seattle

    Before flying off the handle, find out if the real jobs were just put into the wrong or non-existant district. Was the job assigned to the 15th when it should have been the 5th? Then find out if the job was already counted in the 5th. If someone really wanted to lie about the number of jobs there would have been easier and less detectable ways.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  97. Mack, McKinney, Texas

    Oh come on Jack. Your being a spoiled sport. The government can say what ever they want to say and get away with it. They don't have to be accurate only convincing to get people to vote them into office.. They can explain away any discrepancy because they are the government. They know better then we do.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  98. Kooky in CA

    They are typographical errors, Jack, typographical errors. They are right up there with Iraq’s WMD reports and getting Bin Laden in Afghanistan after 911. They are typographical errors.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  99. Mike

    Jack,

    If it wasn't for transparency we wouldn't have known at all about these human errors. Imagine all of the errors during past administrations.

    best regards

    Mike N, Minneapolis, MN

    November 17, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
  100. matt

    this is pure corruption the obama administration lied to us. this should be investigated because obama is under oath and should be considered to impeachment i would rather the stimulus to not work then for obama to lie to me i voted for him but now i don't trust him

    November 17, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
  101. LORI in PA

    I dont trust them to spend money in places that DO EXSIST!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
  102. Jerry

    No faith what so ever, When I realized that there was going to be no accountability for the last Administrations criminal activities, I knew I voted wrong. Jerry/ Iowa

    November 17, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
  103. Robbie Francis from Massachusetts

    None.How can I trust the government with my healthcare?Let's take the rest of the stimulus money and payback the government. Didn't we vote for change?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
  104. Ed from Montana

    It's another sign of government effeciency Jack. We've now combined the Office of Ineptness with the Office of Corruption into the new Office of Inept Corruption. That's how you get reports like this.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
  105. Rick Jones

    It is a shame and an embarrassment that such things occur. But, you can bet that, after spending millions on oversight and audits, nothing will happen. Kind of like a Congressional committee investigating a Democratic senator for illegal or immoral acts. Lots of hot air but no movement.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  106. Roy Dye

    Jack,

    How much faith in the stimulus spending in America? About the same as the stimulus spending in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. They are so corrupt than NONE gets to the intended recipients.

    Roy, Memphis.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  107. Sue Boyd

    Mr. Cafferty
    A perfect example of why we need term limits.
    The longer they are in office the more blantant
    the corruption is. These people in congressare so crooked you wilhave to screw them into the ground when they die.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  108. Steve

    Are we really surprised they would make up jobs in places that do not exist. This administration has said many things that come out not to be true. I guess they really think the American people are stupid, and of course that is mostly true. Steve – Rome, GA

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  109. Jim LaCoste

    Sounds like business-as-usual. Graft, greed and dishonesty seem to be endemic to our "public government" process. If you dangled a couple of hundred thousand dollars in front of me, I would probably try to figure out a quick way to get it into my pocket. And I'm NOT a politician or a lobbyist or a bank officer!!

    As it is, I will trudge along with my disability income and hope that the promises of Social Security and Disability assistance don't evaporate into the blue-haze smoke of my tax dollars used to roll cigars in a high stakes game in Washington.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  110. Cathy Jane

    Come on indeed! The Obama administration's alleged tranparency is just more of the same that we endured during the Bush Wacked years only this time with higher stakes.
    Thanks for bringing this to our attention Jack. I know I can count on you to be honest.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  111. Linda Williams San Francisco

    Jack I'm not making excuses for the inefficient of the administration report, but don;t they have to report what they receive? The governors of these states asked for the money and it is up to the mayors of these cities to make sure that every job they report exist, actually does. I know for a fact that the money San Francisco received actually went for saving jobs and many people that was receiving welfare or homeless actually received jobs from this money.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  112. Johnny C (Los Angeles)

    Hi Jack –

    It has often been said that our best and brightest work in Washington DC ... can't you tell!

    I still have faith that some of the money will create real work, however, since the majority of the money must have been spent on this very expensive oversight by these "non-performers", I think a better question is ... "Is the "White House" oversight of these programs worth the money that is being spent and are they effective?" or "Having seen the effectiveness of the "White House" minions with our stimulus offerings, would you hire them to work for your company?"

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  113. Ruth

    Jack I have plenty of faith in the Obama Administration. They are doing everything they can to clean up the problems the Bush Administration left behind. If they make a few mistakes along the way charge it to human error. You know Jack, I think you are very disrespectful saying this is a bunch of garbage. Jack this is your President, and if you don't have evidence of his administration being deliberately deceitful you should apologize for your harsh remarks.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  114. Leonard Miniszak

    I agree, this sounds like a phony claim by our leaders, how can we trust anything they say? I wonder what they will claim about the do nothing program about the serious issue on ilegal immigration in our country? I like your forthright attitude. I miss seeing Mr. Lou Dobbs who also tells it like it is!

    Thank you Jack,

    Leonard Miniszak

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  115. Sam (St. Louis)

    Zip, of course. I was a first time voter in 2008 and this? Is this what I cast a ballot for? Did this administration really think – stupidly hope – that these nonexistent districts would go unnoticed by the public or media? It's inexcusable and the fact that they've created so few real jobs from the stimulus makes it even worse.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  116. Mike in MO

    I guess the same system used in determining number of jobs saved will be used to determine the number of lives saved by the healthcare bill they're shoving down our taxpayer throats. Stop and payoff the bills they have made for us already like we at home are racing to payoff before spending what we have left to buy food, rent, etc..

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  117. Hubert Bertrand Oberlin La.

    JACK;Our goverment is using (CNN) as a tool to lie to us,I wish (CNN) would not report news from the politicians,It always turn out to be lies. Is there a way you can check the report before it goes on the air?? My friends don't watch the news because it is just always bad.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  118. Kelly in Minneapolis

    Jack,

    Trying to peg jobs related to money spent is a hard task. It's impossible if you just start making up statistics! The President should get his staff to fix the web page by tomorrow! Ridiculus.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  119. KarenB, central Florida

    So-what else is new? I still wonder at the people that are waiting for that "yellow brick road" they thought they were getting.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  120. Harvey--- Texas

    None.......zero..........nada......zilch.........get the picture, Jack

    November 17, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  121. Agent Zed

    "Human error?" Leaving your car's headlights on is human error. Forgetting your wallet when going out is human error. Making careless mistakes with seriousmatters like distribution of stimulus spending is NOT human error – they are the makings of an "idiocracy"!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  122. Terry Doherty

    Jack,

    Congress can't account for their mistakes. What a mess and they are going to help the middle income? God help us all at this rate..

    November 17, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  123. Thom Richer

    Let's be honest here, seeing the government does not know the meaning of the word, and the media seems to not include it in most of their "stories" because it may not excite the public's interest enough.

    The so called "Stimulous" was and remains another fraud on the working taxpayers, yet has bee hailed as a good thing by Congress and the White House and not exposed as such by the media. The "Stimulous" helped only the crooks at the top of the corporate food chain and was designed from the start to do just that. It is simply another means of taking money out of the pockets of the hurting working class and putting it in the pockets of the very crooks responsible for the recession.

    As to the biggest joke on the working class consumers that the, no not "the" government, "our" government put over on us, "Cash for Clunkers," which is no more than auto dealers do each and everyday of the year, take trade-ins for your old vehicle. The only thing unique about this scam is they used taxpayers money from the working poor who could not afford to purchase a new car, to finance the wealthy who could. So the poor helped pay for those with money to get a new car and again lined the pockets of Corporate America. Was this ever reported on by the media as a scam? Don't think so. All I heard was how great it "stimulated" sales. Faith? Get real! Nothing has been done for the past 12 years to help the lower class.

    Thom Richer
    Negaunee, MI

    November 17, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  124. Jim

    On a scale of 1 to 10, about a minus 10. You know for sure, any thing the Federal Government does with huge ammounts of money, a large percentage is going to be wasted.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  125. Anita Morfin

    Thank you for pointing out some of the "crap" this administration is continuing to do. It seems to me there are few successful and positive things this government is doing...and so it continues...as in the past, only with more expenditures at breakneck speed. No one seems to be "accountable".
    Question: Why hasn't anyone gone after the government and asked WHY WE ARE OUTSOURCING IRS TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES??? I spoke with someone at the switchboard of a senator last week and he was aghast that, if true, he had no idea! Check it out.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  126. EdSki

    Is it just ME....or is Obama,and his administration having alot of (Michael Brown) Browny Moments!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  127. steeve/ buffalo ny

    relax jack if the guv was trying to fool you they would be more clever than that . they would tell you they knew there weapons of mass destruction in cuba or something

    November 17, 2009 at 5:19 pm |
  128. MARY, LAMBERTVILLE, MICHIGAN

    QUESTION: How much faith do you have in stimulus spending if the administration reports job creation in places that don’t even exist?

    I have no faith in anyone connected in ANY WAY with Congress or the Government.

    I live in the illustrious State of Michigan where THERE ARE NO JOBS thanks to our Governor and industry which threw its towel in with Big Oil and the theory that outsourcing jobs was the best way to ensure that upper level executives got the biggest possible bonuses by hiring cheap labor to save on their bottom lines.

    It is totally pathetic that government agencies bail out their lobbyist buddies in the financial sector and big business and now try to cover their tracks by putting false inflationary information out there to cover the astronomical problem we have in this country with lost jobs.

    The middle class in this country is under attack and I guarantee you that big government will not be the one to save them. They are in the pockets of big business too deeply.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:19 pm |
  129. steve

    Jack,

    The Dallas Morning News just published a list of previously reported job creations that either did not exist or were OVER reported in our local market. There are no job creations and there never will be any jobs created. P.S.: jobs are defined as longer then the next voting cycle.

    To make things worse, our creditor (CHINA) has a list of questions for President Obama in reference to the cost of the health care reform. OH MY.

    When is the spending going to stop because I know for a fact that.my paycheck has stopped.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  130. indydee

    How much faITH COULD YOU have? What u guys should be trying to find out is WHERE'S THE MONEY?!
    I pay taxes out the WAZOO & certainly don't want to continue to paying taxes for money that's unaccounted for!
    WHERE'S THE $$$$$$$$$$?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  131. Michael n Seattle

    I have as much faith in this government as the last when the said there were WMD's in Iraq. 1 in 100 people don't know what LD they vote in let alone how many there are in their state or who their representative is

    November 17, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  132. Scott Stodden

    Jack I feel like the people in Washington are making the results of this stimulus bill sound better than what's really going on. There are no jobs in this country at all, 10% unemployment rate and the economy is getting worse and worse everyday. Its not that I don't have faith in the Obama administration because like he said we can't fix all the problems in this world, look at what they were left with I don't even know if all the problems can be fixed in 8yrs but there trying and doing better than expected but alot of people that I talk to in Illinois are losing faith.

    Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)

    November 17, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  133. eugene

    good to see you telling the truth like lou dobbs i would like to see fair and ballanced news like what you reported today about job reports keep telling the facts not opinions like rick sanchez and john king.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  134. Lynn

    A better question would be do you want these same morons in charge of your colonoscopy or schemotherapy?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:21 pm |
  135. Bert from New Brunswick

    Former Wall Street bankers and CEO's running the show? Where have we seen this movie before?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
  136. Mario S Loya Jr

    Lets move to one of these fictional districts so we can take advantage of the stimulus $$$$$$. This presidency is turning out to be a joke.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
  137. eugenia waller

    after checking data for several states I think they are using STATE not Federal districts to report the money-this would give a more "local" approach.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
  138. Kyle from KC Missouri

    I am unemployed with a BS in Management and AAS in Electronics. After scoring a very high score on a state exam I am yet to see any jobs created. My son works at a local steak house and reports that most of the help is migrant workers from Mexico. One of my former high tech jobs was sent over to China years ago.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
  139. Roderick Travis- Lexington, Ms

    I have as much faith in government stimilus spending as McCain has in Obama's healthcare plan. I compare stimilus spending as taking up donations for robbers. Those type of errors are accidental. So where really did the money go?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  140. Jerry Jacksonville, Fl.

    Someone is damn good, they need to keep up the good work, they just need to create about fourteen million more jobs and we'll be in great shape.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  141. Steve in Las Vegas,NV

    Why does this seem to get worse by the day?? Complete ineptitude and bureaucratic bungling. I feel like the misinformation is completely out of control. The lies and BS keep piling up. Not to mention what the cost of this is.

    I sure hope Obamacare isn't run the same way. If it is, God help us all.

    This "stimulus" hasn't been really seen in NV...But the talk about it has. And by the way..Where are all those promised jobs anyway? Sure not here in Las Vegas, Nevada or anywhere else. And the people are hurting very badly!!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  142. Bruce

    Jack, It goes along with all his "fuzzy' math. I remember while he was campaigning in 2008, he made a statement about campainging in all 57 states. I'm not sure where the other 7 states are located. Perhaps they were in some of the congressional districts that don't exist. Either way, even though I voted for Obama, my faith in him has eroded significantly.

    Bruce

    PA

    November 17, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  143. joe g. Toledo, Ohio

    Jack,
    This just confirms what many of us have been thinking – the administration has no credibility re: stimulus spending. The stimuus spending, as we find out more about it, has been, in many cases, ill conceived, and not stimulating in any way. It dramtically
    calls into question some of their other endeavors as well, not the least of which is their plan for health care reform – it's one thing to be inept when reporting job creation numbers, it's another to have health practices that directly impact lives exposed to their inability to get things right.
    Thanks for what you do – it's so important.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  144. Jerry Kotek

    Working with the ARRA funds for weatherization I can tell you that the data does come from the locals way down even to sub-contractors. They are not used to this heavy government reporting required by congress. The data should go through a clearing house at the state level, but some states may not have that together and just forward it to the Feds. The transparency, I take it, is that the Feds do not verify or correct or edit the data submitted very much. All reports are supposed to fix themself in subsequent report submissions. By the way, the number of jobs may just be "made up" using a dollar amount per job.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  145. Laurel Stevens

    Jack, Unfortunately I do believe in the human error theory. I work at a church in the County of Waldo, which is in Maine. The Pastor and I applied for a federal grant to allow us to help folks with their mortgage payments or rent. Also we were able to help people who were homeless by putting them in a motel for up to a month. This was part of the Fed Stimulous Package. We received a grant for $15K, this was given out $7,500 at a time.

    When we applied for the 2nd half you would not believe the hours that we spent trying to find out the correct congressional district we should apply under. The following could not help: City of Belfast Town Clerk Office, General assistance did not know, and two different Congressional Office. Finally, we did find out.

    Also the forms we had to fill out on a web site was totally disgusting. Over and over the same questions. The forms themselves took us over an hour. By the way – we still have not received the 2nd half and had to put in for an extension.

    Thanks Jack – you are the best on the show!!

    Laurel

    November 17, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  146. Jackie R. Barnes

    I haven't had any faith in government since Reagin, but when it looked to me like Obama was going to be president, i said then that we are in deep trouble, an inexperienced man, whose sole purpose is to destroy the United states of America, and a congress that seems to have the same on its mind.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  147. Justin Thyme - Phoenix

    And this is the administration that wants us to trust them when it comes to reforming health care.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  148. Danny -- Collinsville, Ok

    Republican or Democrat, how do you believe anything out of the mouths of the politicos of Washington? Everytime you hear something, it is usually retracted the next day or proved wrong by the other side. Stupid is as Stupid does! The question is: Are we stupid enough to trust them???

    November 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  149. Reggy

    I live in North Miami Beach, FL, and on our city's website, they've already unveiled plans to rebuild certain areas throughout the city with our stimulus money. Now, I don't think we had faith in our government to do this right to begin with , hence the recovery website. That's a lot of money to keep track of, and there will be errors. Personally i except millions to vanish and be squandered just like in many other government programs. I just hope what's reported is scrutinized a little more, and people are held accountable, thank God for reporters like you, so bring the heat on those politicians!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  150. sanchez

    Jack shame on you. We're so tired of this hard core sensationalism
    in reporting. Who cares if the count is right on the money..

    Did we get all the facts on what was going on eight years ago,
    before we all went down the drain? Now everyone wants to know
    the exact count on job creation? Why is it we all get bunched up
    on numbers? We'd best stay focused on recovery, but today we're
    focused on Sarah Palin's book debut, and the number of sales.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  151. George B., Port Huron, Mich.

    Jack, I think we can't believe anything the goverment saids these days,they spend more than they make,and they don't even know where it's going.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  152. Adam Simi Valley, CA

    The entire basis of the data is suspect.. It is a fools erand to reconcile that data. What you should be asking is how do they calculate their numbers and what types of jobs were created. Are the jobs sustainable without future government subsidies? Do any of these jobs exist in the private sector or foster real economic growth that will generate future tax revenue streams? Or are we simply creating more government workers and people dependant on the Federal Government for their livelihood?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  153. Michael (Canada)

    Donald in CA hit it on the head, this is egregious to be sure, but why has Obama been the recipient of so much sanctimony? You Jack, cheered the U.S. into Iraq- How come you didn't behave like this, with a hell fire segment when you knew there were no weapons? I guess tomorrow's question will be about Obama's patriotism, because he bowed to the Japanese Emperor. Protocol and respect don't exist in English dictionaries anymore!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  154. Ken in NC

    Jack that is the place where Medicare is paying those claims to dead Doctors on dead people. It's par for the government. What I question is if the places do not exist, where did the real money go or to whom was it delivered? I make less than you but I will bet your pay check the people that got the money are real.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:26 pm |
  155. Lynn, Columbia, Mo.

    He should start up a new WPA program and know where the money goes instead of relying on the states to spend it.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:26 pm |
  156. Mike Molloy Palm City, FL

    Hi Jack: I have as much faith in this report as I did when President Obama assigned VP Biden to be in charge of the stimulous and make certain that the American people can be assured that the stimulous money would be spent wisely. If you recall, the VP was to report regularly to the public the progress of the stimulous spending. I have not heard much specificity from VP Biden on any of this other then his recent statements that we are creating jobs and the stimulous is doiing what we said it would do. REALLY??? I wonder what success he has in his other "assigned" task of helping the Iraqi government's various ethnic factions come together on their disagreemnets and form a unity government? Rather minor tasks both of these are, wouldn't you agree? I am sure the Vice President will spend just as much time on this as he does stimulous monitoring!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:26 pm |
  157. Victor in Saanich, B.C. Canada

    Jack, the same idea comes across when the stimulus money is used to SAVE the jobs of state workers. The idea was job creation but the governors are using said funds to cover deficits within their states. The reality is this would be only a band-aid and at a near future date, the state would still face the deficit issue!!! This sad affair rises out of governmental lethargy re. investment regulation etc. AND the states not assuring they have enough tax returns [$$] to cover their operating needs especially in a downturn !!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:28 pm |
  158. Carl H. Tampa Bay

    Well there's a job in Tampa that can use some looking over! The Bird St. Bridge looks alittle saggy! But YET I still drive over it? A lawsuit Tampa can't AFFORD!! Hmmmm....

    November 17, 2009 at 5:28 pm |
  159. Darin

    It's absolutely ridiculous that those people don't know how to do their jobs. What's happening in this country when people who we trust the most to help us (i.e. folks in the white house) are incompetent? I have no faith that they can be trusted. With that said, what kind of future does that mean for us all?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:28 pm |
  160. Adam Simi Valley, CA

    If you believe the President, who inexplicably felt compelled to cut short his press conference addressing nation following the Ft Hood shootings to pat himself on the back, he created jobs and helped the economy by signing a bill extending the UNEMPLOYMENT benefits 18 more months. What sort of voodoo economics is that? I thought economic recovery was symbolized by EMPLOYMENT. That is about the thinest reason I have ever heard for creating creating a job, handing out money to the unemployed. Based on that logic, we should be at almost full employment. Times are good.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:28 pm |
  161. Ken in NC

    I'm an Obama supporter but I got to tell ya Jack, if this is due to human error, two things can be done to fix it. #1Correct the error and #2 fire the human.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:29 pm |
  162. Moe Highland Village tx

    It appears the only jobs created by the stimulus is those hired to falsify the reports of the jobs created. Do we really have the best Government in the universe ??

    November 17, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
  163. Alan (Milwaukee)

    Jack, I'm losing faith real fast. I was a supporter of the stimulus, but it seems like the Obama administration seems determined to paint themselves as inept as the previous White House administration. They make us these promises of accountability and transparency, then drop the ball every chance they get. Don't these people get it- everybody's watching!! And with every of these screw up's, peoople like me lose a little more of that hope the President spent so much time campaigning on.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
  164. Ray in Nashville

    Jack, the American people are between a rock and a hard place. The left wants us to depend on the government, who give us scandals like this one and the right wants us to depend on business interests, which give us scandals like Enron, Worldcom and Bernie Madoff. We just can't win.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
  165. Anvar

    Thanks for your and other reporting, I really appreciate it

    November 17, 2009 at 5:31 pm |
  166. Richard

    Jack,

    Richard Fisher of Richmond, California...

    Someone in the administration should know everything about every penny, nickel, dime, quarter, and dollar that is spent.

    Bernie Madoff is in prison for nearly the exact thing...Who in ..... is honest today?

    When we say the White House...do we mean the President? NO!

    It's those whom our President Obama has entrusted to do the correct bidding for our nation, in all aspect of government who are the crooks, cheats, and what ever.

    I am not pleased at all people who misuse the trust of all Americans; while we struggle they take our monies to their personal use and whatever.

    God help us!

    Richard.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:31 pm |
  167. Kyle from KC Missouri

    Its really no different than the unemployment reports. The reports only contain those who receive benefits. Those who are turned away for whatever reason are still unemployed yet not included in the numbers. Go figure!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:31 pm |
  168. David Mead

    Here's a quote by Abraham Lincoln:

    "You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by encouraging class hatred. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. "
    Abraham Lincoln

    This is just as true today as it was in the 1860's

    November 17, 2009 at 5:31 pm |
  169. Debra

    Come on is right! I thought all Bush staff were kick out of the office when he left...

    Or maybe yet! Obama's team needs to learn too....

    Get it right or get the boot in 3 years...

    November 17, 2009 at 5:31 pm |
  170. Danny -- Collinsville, Ok

    Human error!!?? I think the human error will be not voting most of these lifers out of office when we get a chance. The have to slant everything they say and dodge the truth just trying to make themselves look good. Hmmm, not a fair face in the crowd. Prejudice lives in those halls.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:32 pm |
  171. Alex in Seattle

    They need to check their facts before publication in any media. I can only shake my head that the administration is giving Rush Limbaugh and others free attack ammunition.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:32 pm |
  172. tj Tampa

    I have zero confidence in the governments assessments. Thats like telling us they created jobs in hard hit monority areas where the unemployment rate is said to be 15% when the real number is around 35%. Show us the stimulus pattern or big buck spent in those areas where it is needed most.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:33 pm |
  173. Virginia Jack

    C'mon, Jack- don't tell me you didn't see this coming. We put a bunch of Chicago kleptokrats in charge of a trillion dollar spendapalooza and now we're surprised to see billions going to nonexistent districts and projects. Jack, these people invented the concept of dead people voting.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:35 pm |
  174. laughing at this question

    I do not think the unemployment is at 10% try 20%. try to imagine put in the data to the computer. If you had to put that many numbers in you would lose track and make mistakes. I worked on putting numbers into excel when it was a doc program and even I lost track. Blame it on old age, the keyboard and space bar and maybe even the decimal point. Human error just to write this i had almost 50 hours and I took typing in college on an ibm selectric.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:36 pm |
  175. Lester

    I know that TURNCOAT, Joe Lieberman will be all over this story.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:37 pm |
  176. Geoff in Seattle

    Jack:

    The Obama Administration – everyone appointed to his cabinet – must know that they are ther to right 8 years of Bush-Cheney Blunders. This type of story doesn't help their image of being highly efficient and effective. Whether the Stimulus was a bad idea started by Bush or a good idea gone wrong under Obama, the fact remains that many (far too many) Americans are unemployed. The Obama team MUST work 24-7 to right the American Ship of State.. we are desperately off course! Obama MUST:
    1) Get Us Out of IRAQ... NOW! that will help with badly needed Federal resources;
    2) Deny more troops to Afghanistan ... it's a lost cause due to Bush Admin. ineptness – stabilize the cities and demand NATO participation.
    3) End all Free Trade Agreements that have proven unfair job losers; 4) Make sure that Stimulus Dollars are spent effectively to create jobs!... this should be a No-Brainer! Build Bridges... Laydown Fiber Optics in rural areas ... Upgrade and Maintain our deterioriating Infrastructure.
    5) And for God Sake get tough on the Banks – force their hands on loosening credit!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:37 pm |
  177. JIM SAN DIEGO

    Jack Cafferty always thought George Bush was a incompetent president. However, Obama makes George Bush look like a Saint. It shows what extremes Obama will go through to try and convince the American public he is creating jobs. Right!!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:37 pm |
  178. Nancy, Grand Ledge,MI

    If I live in a nonexistent district, and work at a nonexistent job with non existent health care benefits, do I still have to pay taxes? Why is the IRS the only government agency that can count?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:38 pm |
  179. jaye

    Here's the truthful answer–how many people work at that website, Recovery.gov? Let's say 37? Okay, then exactly 37 jobs were created with our $800 billion in tax dollars, period. All that money went to create a site to keep track of where all that money went. And it turns out they got their numbers all wrong, anyway. I can just see the govt's ad for a job position at Recovery.gov. "Math skills and basic honesty not required. Graduates of the Bernie Madoff School of Creative Accounting preferred."

    jaye
    west virginia

    November 17, 2009 at 5:39 pm |
  180. Doris Lauter

    I have little faith in the system that allows money to be spent on states that have their hand out that don't report the facts correctly. There should be some way to check out the facts before sending them money.
    Doris
    Ojai, California

    November 17, 2009 at 5:39 pm |
  181. Bob

    I guess the government thinks we are stupid and can feed us garbage and we'll accept with our questioning them. They cannot provide truthful and corct information and yet want us to beleive they know how much the Health Bill will cost? You've got to be kidding...

    Bob – Ballwin, Mo

    November 17, 2009 at 5:40 pm |
  182. Linda Schumacher

    I don't have faith in our government to improve the middleclass. Our entire problems all come from greed and our goverment is right up there on top. They keep the middleclass so busy trying to exist, I guess we just don't have time to deal with you. That is the only reason I can think of that we have not rebelled!!!!!!!!!! It's the only thing that makes any sense!!!!!!!!!! The people on top our destroying our Free Country!!!!!!!!!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:40 pm |
  183. Arlene, Illinois

    I'll bet you could stop any one person on the street and ask
    what district they live in and probably no one could give a
    correct answer. So much for facts.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:40 pm |
  184. C. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    Of course I have faith in the Obama administration stimulous spending and it didn't take 8 years to discover and correct the mistake. For 8 years we had an Afghan drug lord on our payroll and nobody investigated.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:41 pm |
  185. Neil

    Jack,
    The adminstration needs to account for where all this stimulus money went and its affects, if the administration wants me and a majority of americans to have faith in there ability to manage 1 trillion dollars in heath care reform, economic reform, or anything with large price tag on it.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:42 pm |
  186. Roderick Travis- Lexington, Ms

    was it human error that gave these government officials a job? check there bank accounts i bet there is no human errors!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:43 pm |
  187. Melissa M

    The question we should all be asking is this: Would the administration have corrected the errors if ABC hadn't run a story reporting them? You have to wonder if the administration knew all along that the numbers were inflated - after all, they didn't seem too surprised by the ABC story.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:43 pm |
  188. cory

    I have no faith in the stimulous plans. We have a great system in America set up by our founders. However, our wonderful system doesn't get a fair chance when we allow our elected officals to getaway with corruption and gross misappropriations of our tax dollars mostly for the benifit of big business. If we keep allowing this type of behavior amongst our elected officials with no serious consequences then we will never realize our true potential as a great nation.
    In my opinion corruption, misrepresentation, and misappropriation of tax dollars amoungst our elected officials tops the list of our biggest problems and should be met with no mercy for those found guilty. Wake up America the real war is not taking place in Afganistan it's State side and we are lossing.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:43 pm |
  189. Anonymous

    Pam holt- foley, al. I wonder if everyone else is as dissapointed as I am. This it it, no more excuses for this administration. They tell us how bad the bush administration done us, and then they add insult to injury by doing worse. I don"t even want to keep hearing them bash Sarah palindrome, because she didn"t do to her state what this administration is doing to our country. She definetly has more in common with us( poor) folks then Obama seems to be showing by his actions, that he has. What a letdown, and embarrassing to have to continue watching this downhill slide.....

    November 17, 2009 at 5:45 pm |
  190. Matt

    Sounds like they should hire some fact-checkers, hopefully they'd know where those people would work, and technically those would be jobs added as a result of the Stimulus Package.
    Are they hiring? Where should I send my resume?

    Matt
    Santa Barbara

    November 17, 2009 at 5:45 pm |
  191. cory

    I have no faith in the stimulus plans. We have a great system in America set up by our founders. However, our wonderful system doesn't get a fair chance when we allow our elected officials to getaway with corruption and gross mis appropriations of our tax dollars mostly for the benefit of big business. If we keep allowing this type of behavior amongst our elected officials with no serious consequences then we will never realize our true potential as a great nation.
    In my opinion corruption, misrepresentation, and mis appropriation of tax dollars amongst our elected officials tops the list of our biggest problems and should be met with no mercy for those found guilty. Wake up America the real war is not taking place in Afghanistan it's State side and we are lossing.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:46 pm |
  192. Rick McDaniel / Lewisville, TX

    Perhaps this is just the tip of the iceberg? How many lies are being told to the citizens, about what is being done with taxpayer dollars? How many exaggerated claims are being made about jobs creation? How much corruption is there, in this administration?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:46 pm |
  193. Beth Powder

    I had no faith in the stimulus spending before the stimulus was even approved! So we've been ripped off–yet again. How is this news? What I don't understand is the widespread acceptance of this mess. Seriously, wouldn't you be concerned if someone repeatedly came into your home and took something small away from you? As the loss accumulates over time, it's revealed to be quite a sizable theft. Well, this is no different. Wearing a suit and having a law degree doesn't make one any less a hooligan. So why are we letting a bunch of hooligans mess with us and pinch our pockets? Yes, it's time for a change NOT time for getting short-changed. Why can't we do what they did in the UK over the summer and shame people out of office who clearly don't have the interests of the people in mind? Or does that just mean no one would be eligible to run for government?

    November 17, 2009 at 5:46 pm |
  194. Otis

    I have no faith, Jack. This is the same government that can't even run a profit with its mail system. You know why? It's sending mail to Arizona's 15th district.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:46 pm |
  195. Ken H.

    Did I read this article right? Is Cafferty "actually" criticizing the Obama admin? Holy cow!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:47 pm |
  196. Duane Mortensen

    With this level of accuracy in reporting data and facts I really have to wonder if someone is using the Sarah Palin methodology of gathering data. Tell the people what they want to hear!!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:48 pm |
  197. Kevin, Chester Springs PA

    I think the 15th district in Arizona is actually in Wilmington, Delaware. Or is it Scranton PA? So I'm pretty sure Biden has it right on the .gov website.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:49 pm |
  198. bill shuman

    My, my. The administration seems to have gotten this wrong...too.
    You vote in the inept and this is the result.
    It can be corrected in the mid-terms. 2010, ho!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:50 pm |
  199. EugeneWiese

    I have faith in the Obama administration.If i believed all the nay sayers Obama will have a one term Presidency. The false information that the present administration received concerning the stimulus sounds very familiar to the WMD info during the Bush 43 terms. Lets see how this plays out in the media over the next several weeks or months.Jack,I've heard that Senator Lieberman is not a Senator at all,but really a Mole representing Israel and and Conservatives,and all the half assed Republicans:independents,Liberterians,blue dogs,and neocons. Gene

    November 17, 2009 at 5:51 pm |
  200. Cody (D.C.)

    New party, same story.

    Pitiful.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:51 pm |
  201. vern-anaheim,ca

    jack i have no faith in any administration democrat or republican telling the truth ,they all cheat.i agree with everything you said on the "situation room"

    November 17, 2009 at 5:52 pm |
  202. Antonio from Washington D.C.

    Jack, like the rapper Notorious B.I.G. said, "Mo' Money, Mo' Problems!" Anyway, all you need is love, faith, respect, and perseverance to get the stimulus money properly spent!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:53 pm |
  203. Bill from pa

    I visited 3 of our fantastically beautiful national parks in the west this summer. If there is a better place to put stimulus money in this country, I can't imagine where, after being so shamefully underfunded by congresses past and present. There was a great deal of national resources put into them in the last great depression and no reason not to do it in this one. It's "same old, same old" with creating these programs and figure-head over sight committees who are virtually functionless. We deserve better.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:54 pm |
  204. indydee

    Money to Puerto Rico? That's absurd! I was there the week of October 12th & there was a huge protest because 17 thousand had lost their government jobs. There are NO JOBS IN PUERTO RICO. The whole island is bankrupt. Politicians pilfer & get sent to the Federal Prisons in the U.S. (u know the countryclub). Leaving the civilians holding the empty bag...I own a property there & taxes went up 800%. NO THE MONEY DID NOT GO TO PUERTO RICO!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:54 pm |
  205. kathy sacramento ca

    as far as i know beginning of next year by jan.. and feb..most retailer business will close, or down size as they will see their profit and loss.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:55 pm |
  206. Jack

    Why is anyone with any common sense surprised? This guy and his Democratic Party have brought out the best scam artists in the world to make sure they sell the American people a bill of goods that do not exist. The Democratic Congress is a group of incompetents and crooks and the Republicans are letting them get away with it in expectation of taking their turn next.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:56 pm |
  207. Lin Hooper

    Mistake? Mistake ? If that's true, then I believe the people responsible for using a Federal program in so feloniousa fashion should be investigated for malfeasance or downright theft and punished appropriatly once found guilty ! It seems we have become a nation of thieves! Let's create real job opportunities by increasing the numbers of FBI personnel whose mission is the elimination of such iquestionable conduct!

    November 17, 2009 at 5:57 pm |
  208. Ryan P. McCarter

    While this deception is contemptible and serves to erode confidence in the administration's transparency, it should not affect our attitudes toward the stimulus itself. Republican howling notwithstanding, the stimulus has clearly been effective in helping to prevent a bad recession from turning into a real depression. Could it have been more effective? Yes, but let's be honest: the Democrats said that all along, and many economists agreed that the bill was too small, and that the spending component was insufficient. It's disingenuous for the Republicans to ignore economists and neuter the bill, and then complain when it doesn't work as well as it could.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:57 pm |
  209. Norm

    Oh come on Jack. You mean you don't believe what our government says? Shame on you.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:57 pm |
  210. mark

    Keep drinking the Kool Aid...all is well, people.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:58 pm |
  211. Tom

    Jack,

    Thanks for reporting on this. As this is an Obama administration SNAFU, the press is, of course, treading lightly on this issue.

    If this was a Bush SNAFU, John Stewart and the likes would be having a virtual field day - but as we all know too well from the last year and a half, the mainstream media is full of double standards.

    November 17, 2009 at 5:58 pm |
  212. Danny B/ Dallas,Tx

    Ok Mr Cafferty, so now we have verified that most politicians will jumble numbers and even make some up and say whatever they want or think they have to in order to get that warm and fuzzy feeling that they are actually helping us.

    And just like all those commercials that puff up what their products actually can do, politicians think we will get all warm and fuzzy with them and their imaginary numbers.

    Whatever happened to honesty? Are any numbers relating to anything really accurate coming from our government (besides how much debt we have)?

    If we never know where we really are then how can we get to where we need to be....

    November 17, 2009 at 5:59 pm |
  213. Linda Schumacher

    PS: I worked at GM in MI for 12 years. The first 4 yrs. I was an outside contracted Secretary to GM. The last 8 yrs. I was a Secretary, fulltime EDS employee at GM. The way they ran the company was absolutely rediculous, so much waste it's no wonder they went bankrupt! Way too much bureacracy everywhere you look and the middleclass gets smaller and smaller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    November 17, 2009 at 6:00 pm |
  214. Mike in SA

    All part of the mythical "change" we were supposed to see.

    November 17, 2009 at 6:00 pm |