Can protesters ever prevail in a country like Iran?
An Iranian protester stands next to a burning bus during clashes with Iranian police at a demonstration in Tehran. (PHOTO CREDIT: ALI SAFARI/AFP/Getty Images)
FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Iranian protesters aren't packing up and going home - despite warnings from the government that they should do just that.
Earlier today, the elite Revolutionary Guard warned that people who "disturb the peace and stand up to security forces" would be met with a strong response.
And they meant it... as riot police attacked hundreds of demonstrators with tear gas and fired live bullets into the air to break up one rally in Tehran today. Witnesses also said that helicopters hovered overhead; and they noted heavy police presence in other parts of the city.
The country's highest electoral authority - which has supposedly been investigating allegations of voter fraud - acknowledged that there were voting irregularities in 50-electoral districts. Nonetheless, the council insists the problems don't affect the election results.
But opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi is vowing to keep up the protests - defying the country's supreme leader.
It's impossible to know for sure how many people have been killed and injured in these protests since the Iranian government is severely restricting international media coverage. Reporters Without Borders says 20 journalists have been arrested in the past week, while many others have been kicked out of the country.
Nonetheless, violent amateur videos and pictures continue to make their way out of Iran though social networking websites.
Here’s my question to you: Can the protesters ever prevail in a country like Iran?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Billy from Las Vegas writes:
Yes, Jack, but only if the young people in the army and police join them like they did in Russia in 1991. Otherwise the Iranian kids will end up like the Tiananmen Square kids in Communist China two decades ago. Unfortunately it looks like the latter is going to happen.
Darren writes:
With the advent of Twitter and YouTube, clearly the government’s ability to cloak their ruling with an iron fist is coming to an end as more and more Iranians demand a better way of life. Not necessarily a democracy, but something a bit more 21st Century.
Thomas from Ft. Lauderdale writes:
Jack, I'm afraid the only way that Iranians can take their country back is to arm themselves. It’s what our forefathers did. They took up arms and fought the injustice until they succeeded. They didn't walk down the street showing a peace sign – if only that was enough. While I hate violence of every kind, this regime will understand nothing less.
Dorothy from Washington writes:
The protesters must keep at it. Freedom is worth everything. I was 14 years old when the U.S. government allowed the police to beat us with batons, hose us down with water, and sick dogs on us. My brother was severely injured after being bitten repeatedly by a dog held by a police officer… No international help came, but we persisted. The cost of freedom can never be underestimated. I pray that the Iranian citizens are able to free themselves from the current government.
F. from Manchester, New Hampshire writes:
Who will win in Iran? Just like the pen is mightier than the sword, the camera-phone is mightier than the gun. The old fogies running the country can't even figure how to block the media. The protesters will win, eventually if not right now.
@jackcafferty on Twitter
Jack,
I have been following you for years; you've read my comments on-air over a dozen times. But this is the poorest phrased question ever!
Were the men and women who fought and died in the American Revolution 'protesters?' Revolutionaries sometimes prevail, (and sometimes do not.) Protesters either get shot or go home ... perhaps with a few scars they can brag about to their kids and grand-kids. (I know ... I was a Viet-Nam era protester.)
The situation in Iran will unlikely change until average citizens collectively conclude that they have had enough of a dictatorship that pretends to be a democracy, and justifies all actions with religious 'jibber-jabber.' If real change will occur, it will come from people we have not heard from yet.
Rick, Medina, OH
Sure they can. 30 years ago, protesters prevailed in the same country over a much more ruthless dictator.
Where was this kind of coverage during our 2004 election? Where was it during the RNC in New York City when thousands of protesters were herded into make-shift prisons and held without charge by police? Where was the coverage at the DNC? But it's ok to report because its that nasty regime in Iran...
Jack,
Just think about how long minorities in our country have waited to be heard. If they don't persevere they will perish. God bless them all for wanting something better for families, friends and countrymen in Iran. I think the World is getting sick of being bullied by strong armed politicians who are not providing the population of their country with the simplest of needs like food. water and medical care.
John Battilloro
White Plains, NY
yes jack....."DEATH TO THEOCRACY"
TOM, FOREST HILLS, PA
Jack,
When was the last time protesters prevailed here?
I don't know why not. They overthrew their government 30 years ago and might just dp the same thing again.
Protestors can succeed in Iran or any country. What is key to the success of any protest or movement, is the right combination of pacifism and violence. People like to forget how the red shirts (Indian Muslims) were violently protesting British rule, while Gandhi was practicing non-violence. I think Sun Tzu and Machiavelli would agree it takes both to depose an established regime.
To my fellow brothers and sisters in IRAN.
You spoke, but your government killed you. Neda has died for your cause. Neda does not want U to stop now. They have killed your fellow Iranain, it’s too late for them. Fight until they are toppled and brought to justice. Which everyone deserve. Killing Iran civilians is the ultimately demise of their power.
Continue your struggle, continue your fight, until the day comes where your votes will be counted. Everyone will account for their actions including the Basji Malitia. Remind your brothers and sisters in the military that they are there to protect you THE PEOPLE OF IRAN and not the ONE bearded man. Don’t stop now, as with any struggle people have died, but let them die in vain.
maybe next election cycle if the un gets involved in monitoring the election next time....
I must say, the heart and courage of those brave Iranian citizens is absolutely there to actually make it happen!
We, not just America, need to continue signaling a STRONG SUPPORT and our belief in them along with their cause.
Loudly voiced WORLD support can certainly curtail aggressive actions that can and will result, if not questioned, from the tyranny of their oppressive religious leader and warped midget of a stand up dictator.
Jack, It has to start somewhere. Remember the Boston tea party?
Jack,
The side that will prevail victorious in a toltalitarian country like Iran is the one that wins the hearts and minds of it's military forces...
Vinnie Vino
Central Islip, N.Y.
Of course they can. They just need to be angry enough and persistent enough. People have prevailed in countries much more oppressive than Iran is today. If enough people are dissatisfied, there's nothing the government can do to stop reform.
Sure - it took a gazillion drops of rain to make the Grand Canyon - so anything is possible. On the other hand, using North Korea as an example, protesters now march at will in the exercise yards of the gulags. It's all going to come down to whether the Ayltollah has seen the handwriting on the wall about his own governmental mortality.
By all means. However, as we all know there is a hugh price to pay and we are seeing that now. Iran's goverment is not "by the people or "for the people". I'm sure North Korea is watching this one very, very close. In unity, there is strengh, But for how long?
They may not get the votes recounted this time, but they have sewn the seeds for a better future. Most ot this crowd was young people. Iran's future generation is standing up for democracy. These kids are letting the world see a glimpse of hope for the future of Iran.
Of course they can. They are not going to overthrow the government any time soon. But this is a threat to the powers that be. I do not care if it is Ayatollah Khamanei or Barack Obama: When politicians feel a threat to their power, they usually change their tune.
I just wish the media would put an honest face on this. If you go around throwing rocks at the police and setting things on fire, you are going to get shot. I don't care what country you live in. Our own American government has been known to shoot its own veterans. Ever heard of the Bonus Army? It is really too bad that Americans are so ignorant of history.
Jack
of course they can prevail. They prevailed against the Shah & the CIA. Khameni and the militia will also be defeated.
The real question is will the people of Iran be able to build a better Republic the second time around. Hoist a cold one to People Power, the ultimate renewable resource.
Pablo
Arlington Texas
yes, they can in any country... if there is enough of them. History has proven that.
Hurst, Texas
YES!
It happened in Iran in 1979 and it can happen again
The US backed despot (Shah) was overthrown because
he abused his power and terrorized his own people.
Once the people arm them selves the change will happen
Jack Jack What a silly question, the people in Iran have in our life time changed governments. Was it worth the cost maybe! Should we stick our noses in their business? No.
Mr. President you are doing just right let them do this!!!!
Jack the question should have been do we interfer. the answer NO!
No, not in Iran, or the United States. In the early seventies it was then Governor of California Ronald Reagan who said about the Berkely protesters "If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with." Soon after, Ohio Governor James A. Rhodes okayed the shootings at Kent State. Are we really so superior?
Yes! It happened to the Old Soviet Union and in the Philippines and other oppressive countries, so why not in Iran. The power of the Mullahs is already shaken and the people ignored the Grand Ayatollah who called for an end to the protests at Friday prayers. We can only hope.
No, the Irani government learned from the US how to stop uprisings,
reference Waco, Ruby Ridge, Move,etc. Even the NRA and second amendment supporters have to admit their weapons are useless against the military's power.
I believe they can prevail in Iran. If they continue to keep the demonstrations going, and going, and going......, and can unite under a steadfast leader.
Yes protesters in the past have brought change to Iran, 30 years ago the revolution threw the shiek out and ushered in the religious fanatics in power today. It seems the younger generation is tired and fed up of the strangling yoke that is forced upon them. Women are totally at their wits ends being told and shown they are second class, akin to a possession with no rights. The old bearded religious nuts absolutly have to be thrown down in just this manner or nothing will ever change.
Scott Rose Panama City, fl
One could hope, Jack, but think it depends on how far they intend to go and what they will sacrifice. When you have a dictator as evil, dishonest and pompous as theirs is, he will probably go to any means to destroy anyone with the bravery to speak out. It is such
a sad situation, but one we cannot interfere in.
Oh, yes, Jack, it can happen! However, the Iranian's success depends upon two things; continued protesting and maintaining the large participation numbers. And both are admittedly difficult. If the workers add a labor strike to the public protests, the odds of success increase pretty dramatically. An important indication of probable success is the fact that their rulers are already divided: Their government is already broken Of course, our government is broken and divided, too, but we Americans don't protest. Our democracy has been stolen, too, by Corporate America but we just wring-out-our-hands and complain. Wouldn't it be just great if the 73% of American supporters conducted a sit-down-strike until we got a single-payer health-care option? Wouldn't take two weeks!
Of course, it's happened in Iran before. Like every revolution prior it just takes the achievement of a critical mass of the population. Along with a little help from some covert C.I.A. ops, wink wink.
Yes they can prevail but it will be very costly. They must be willing to give up their Theocratic Dictatorship form of government but that may be as big a challenge as trying to convert Iran to Judaism. As long as the Ayatollah has the support of the military he will remain in control. The United States should be willing to give up the Bush Doctrine and stay out of this one. We can win by waiting.
Yes, they can as long as they continue to demonstrate in a peaceful means.
I believe that the best way to make changes in a country is from within. It will take time and perseverance, but it's much better than an outside entity trying to change regimes and pushing its beliefs on others. After all, we supported the Shah of Iran, and look what happened! Although I believe that everyone should have the same freedoms that we have in this country, our system may not be the best for other countries. After all, we in the US had the luxury of starting from scratch. Iran and other Middle Eastern Countries have been there for thousands of years. Entirely different circumstances!
Georgia L, PA
Good question Jack, and the answer is...who knows. Revolutions of varying kinds come and go, some stick, some don’t. In a country like Iran the leadership would rather kill their own children then show any weakness by actually listening to any voice of descent. Protesting may be one thing, but it seems maybe the question should be how many Iranian’s are willing to die to make a positive change? The whole situation is sad and my heart goes out to those who have perished, been injured and those still brave enough to confront this evil empire.
Yes, protesters can win in Iran, all you have to do is look at the 1979 movement.
But the protestors in this movement are at most 35% of Iranians, these protestors will not win, exactly for the same reason, and that is why Obama administration is careful to support this movement. One cannot support rule of 35% against 65% and has claim of supporting democracy, no matter, how much CNN and other news media hammers the Iranian government, Islamic government has support of the majority of the people in Iran.
I am sorry to see that all news media in US except very limited ones have dramatized this protest and while talking about democracy, promoting rule of at most 35% to 65%. Every so called Iranian experts you have brought has not given one acceptable reason for election fraud.
I don't think so. They caught the mullahs by surprise with Twitter, Facebook, etc. But these forms of communication cannot diminish the brute force and sheer terror their government is inflicting on the ordinary Iranian. It will take some sort of international action like we did in Iraq or Afganistan or Bosnia and lets face it the current administration has no guts, worries about polls to much, and does not have any leadership ability.
Protesters have succeeded in Iran when they toppled the Sha of Iran. So let’s hope this latest uprising can succeed also. If America keeps its nose out of this it can truly mean something to the Iranians rather than our oil companies.
I don't know if it will ever get like the U.S. although it could possibly get close if the leaders of Iran are killed. Sounds a bit bad to say killing them is the only way but, in that country it's kill or be killed.
Jack, I believe that the Iranians aren't going to prevail the government ruling.
North East, Pennsylania
Jack, First the protesters in Iran's recent election should reframe from large public gathering because The Supreme Leader is use them as target practice until U.S. or Britian forces arrive. I doubt very seriously that U.S. forces would or have ever been greeted as liberators in the Middle East. I fear the worst is yet to come. (While China's on the brink of global superiority.) – Hakeem
No, Iran protesters could learn a lesson from US protesters. How quickly we forget when our armed militias (National Guard) were sent to suppress radicals (students) at Kent State and instead murdered a few of them .... Is the problem with Iran's election, the way it was run or the outcome ....
Oh how the Republicans and Fox News are crying file because Obama won't fall into their trap-to get saddled into this Iran situation-so to have him strapped with a crisis as they got Bush into. Whatever happened to the cries of how dare you ( Obama) talk to a country like Iran. The protesters will go away for the most part but the leaders will heed their message and be more open to talking to us. This is another reason John McCain lost-we don't need anymore reactionaries running this country. By the way aren't most of these Iranians that are protesting in this country for us to go over and kick butt-some of the same ones that were there when they held our hostages-a lot of them look at least thirtysomething to me.
Sure, as long as the Murikan taxpayer foots the bill for CIA coup's.
Yes Jack they have already done so in Iran when they protested against the Shah in 1979. They deposed the Shah who was put in place by the US after the Operation Ajax coup d'etat deposed a democratically elected government in 1953. And people wonder why countries in the middle east do not trust us.
The brave Iranian protesters have prevailed by opening minds in the western world to our misperceptions of what the country of Iran is really like and therefore the wider Muslim world. President Obama’s speech in Cairo opened minds within the Muslim world to their misperceptions of the west. No matter what happens with the government of Iran we the people have reached a turning point in world relations that has united us to better understand and support each other.
No, they cannot. They are willing to risk their lives to protest, here in America we don't appreciate the rights we have.
Yes, but unfortunately not without the blood and tears of those who end up sacraficing themselves for the cause. Their lives will push the regime in the right direction, but the change will not be immediate unless their ends up being some sort of coup d taut.
Jack,
Yes the protesters will eventually prevail. It is impossible to suppress the human spirit forever. The United States is not totally perfect, but America’s founding fathers got it right.
To all in Iranian’s who are frustrated and standing up for freedom please know millions of Americans are praying for you daily.
Let freedom ring !
Since there is no world standard for cultures or ethics, anything can happen anywhere. Just remember the golden rule, "He who has the gold, makes the rules."
Not until they are willing to fight and die for the freedom they desire. History tells us over and over that the only way to shed a dictatorship is to bury it in the blood of patriots willing to die for freedom. I wish them well.
Lance, Ridgecrest, Ca
They will quit for awhile and regroup underground with hopes of overthrowing the whole enchilida.
It's a shame the Iranian protestors haven't thought of a nation-wide strike–If all stayed at home, refused to show up for work, parked their vehicles in the streets, refused to buy goods (first stock up on what you need for food, etc.), it would shut down the country and might have the desired effect of obtaining some resignations, a re-election, an overthrow of the current system. What would the mullahs do then? Go into the homes and shoot everybody?
Only if we keep our paws off of them.
The only way a new 'liberal' regime will be accepted in Iran is it they build it themselves.
Jim Bailey
Cripple Creek
yes, Jack BUT only IF the young people in the army and police join them like they did in Russia in 1991. otherwise the Iranian kids will end up like the Tiananmen Square kids in Communist China two decades ago.
unfortunately it looks like the latter is going to happen.
Government is the voice and protector of the people it governs, the power it holds is given by the people it governs. When I hear a statement from a regime that threatens the people who oppose the actions of those designed to be their protector and benefactor, when a governing body becomes more important than the body it governs, that regime is seeking power for itself, not for the benefit of the people it governs.
Here's a better question Jack...would the protestors ever prevail in a country like the US? I say no....they would be shot at and beat by riot police. You know that as well as I do!
Jack,
Protesters can't even prevail in the United States let alone a country like Iran, both the United States and the Iranian government say and do just about anything they want to, they both say to hell with what the people want.
Jack: A "great act of defiance"--but they never will prevail--you have to fight brute force with brute force.
Yes, but they need to step back and organize or they are going to get marched on by the powers that be. I think that those calling for Pres. Obama to take a harder stance and support the protesters should buy a plane ticket and become the official organizers since they are so good at voicing themselves here. I'm obviously talking about those Republicans that would love to see us in a war that is not ours.
well, that is only what they have to do for now. If u have no power to stop things that is bigger than u, u will do all u can to make your voice to be heard. I feel for them though. But they have to fight for there freedom. I am happy that President Obama is my President. I like the way he is handling the situation. Imagine if granpa McCain were to be the President today we will be in the third war already. Last year McCain were saying bomb, bomb Iran, any now is worried about the Iranians on the street. O Please!!!!!!. Give me a break. McCain should just shut up!!!!.
Joy from new York.
Yes- but it would take longer to achieve their goals than the protests that occurred in say Ukraine- it may take years but sooner or later that tide will turn!!
Every nation governed by religion, throughout history, is governed by thugs. It was true when the Papacy rule Europe by proxy resulting in crusades and inquisitions, it was true for the Puritans and certainly true for Islamic "republics." It was true when religious fundamentalists were the primary influence through eight years of thuggery in this country. A false sense of collective guilt for the Holocaust also causes us to turn a blind eye to the excesses against Palestinians by theocratic Israel.
The protestors will prevail if it causes the overturn of the imams and ayatollas and serve as a model for victims of theocracies everywhere.
Jack, I'm afraid the only way that Iranians can take their country back, is to arm themselves.. Its what our forefathers did. They took up arms and fought the injustice until they succeeded. They didn't walk down the street showing a peace sign.(If only that was enough). While I hate violence of every kind, this regime will understand nothing less. They have oil money to protect the regime and hire lots of thugs and security. The people will now have to take matters into their own hands, or sadly die and become martyrs.
Tom Bate/ Ft Lauderdale
Yes, they can prevail if certain conditions come about. Those include if the police and military begin to realize that the protesters are right and their dictatorial and corrupt government is wrong and refuse to put down the rebellion. The United States must stay out of this internal conflict until these conditions have an opportunity to happen. Interfering now would most likely result in a massive bloodbath and a crushing end to the protests and rebellion.
Brownwood, Texas
Can the protesters ever prevail in a country like Iran?
Not under an Islamic republic...unfortunately authoritarian governments do not tolerate dissent, street protests are for all intents and purposes prohibited, they represent merely one manifestation of a nation's social and political frustration...in Iran in the best of circumstances the peaceful protest can call attention to defiance and unrest, however, at worst, as the world has seen, such protests can be lethal and precipitate a more repressive enforcement of Sharian law...reformers in Tehran the American people support you, but beware the Guardian Council does not and is always watching!...
They already have, Jack. Remember 1979?
This time it may only take one protester– NEDA!
I don't know I like you Jack, am 66 years old and remember 1979 all to well. Now they need us? First let them apologize to the Marines & the U.S. Government staff they jailed. Secondly, We ( the United States) are not, repeat NOT the worlds police force. I seems like every time we try to help we get a poke in the nose. Ok, so lets keep our nose out of those places. If anything should done let it be done as a part of the so called World Community.
Jack: A valiant act of definace--–but they will never prevail--you have to meet brute force with brute force.
Yes, they can and will prevail. Iran is a country of young, educated people ruled by ignorant old men. Change is inevitable.
I believe they can prevail...over time.
The Iranian government and the world now knows that a huge percentage of the population desire change.
They have laid a fundamental path to build upon.
I hope for all of them that change will come peacefully and very soon.
Seeksense
Palm Bay, Florida
Absolutely. George Washington said it best, "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees". Good luck people of Iran.
Iran? Do you remember Kent State? Nixon ended up pardoned, he ate steak and lived under a taxpaid security umbrella the rest of his life, and was exalted for his post resignation work in China. And the kids killed at Kent State, not to mention the 67000 who died in Nam under this creature, got exactly what some Iranian protesters will get under their particular creature.
Come on, Jack. Powerful and corrupt people live on all sides of the ocean, and the results of an uprising by the oppressed are always the same. Prove me a liar.
Only indirectly, and not the first time. After discovering the techniques needed to propel a true popular uprising over the long haul, they can pose such a threat to the established order that it will voluntarily give way.
Do you have any ideas what it is like to know that your own mother has to defend herself while getting a beaten and while you cannot do anything to help?
Do you have any ideas what it is like to see your younger brother getting a beaten while being a child yourself and be totally helpless because other adults around you are letting the beating go on!
Do you have any ideas what it is like to be one of the child threaten and not knowing if you will live!
Do you have any ideas when a child sees her grandmother never truly free to share her thoughts out of fear!
I do to all four!
The iranian people are the most strong and courageous people I have ever seen!
Yes Jack the protestors can make a difference. There is already talk of
rreplacing that crazy man who never wears a suit. Even Israel is sounding different and backing the demonstrators.And, if they strike, even more of a change will happen. America's staying out of it is the right thing to do.
With the advent of Tritter and YouTube clearly their ability to cloak their ruling with an iron fist is coming to an end, as more and more Iranians demand a better way of life. Not necessarily a democracy but something a bit more 21st Century.
Yes, with a lot of courage the protesters just might prvail in Iran. Of course it will not be easy and a lot of blood will flow as a result but in the long term their efforts might just turn the tide, or at least I would like to see it prevail. Isn't it similar in many ways to what happened a East Germany. At that time many people though that was a wasted effort as well until they started tearing down the wall ( a piece of which still sits on one of my library shelves). We in the United States are quick to call the members of our serving military members heros, but are not these protesters heros as well and like the military fighting for something they beieve in as well.
The protesters are fighting a losing battle. They chose the Supreme Leader,so go by his rules
The pen is mightier then the sword and a picture is worth a 1000 words. The problem is that pens and pictures don't block knives and guns. Protesters can't prevail without the direct or at least tacit support of Iran's Army and the Replublican Guard.
Although I can sympathize with the people that are demonstrating they are going to do nothing. The western media is stumbling all over itself to try and force a change even though it may be that Mousavi lost the election.
Who are we to assume that the election results were not correct? I also am totally disappointed with US media that now does not report the news but rather get Twitters, Facebook posts and phone calls from people that are demonstrating. How can the news media report on heresay? Of course the demonstrators will report that this is out of control, death everywhere... it's young people taking advantage of a situation. It's happened in the USA as well.
Stay out of another countries business~
Jack
You are old enough to remember the upheaval we experienced during the Viet-nam war era. It was a coalition among many diverse groups from organic food people to Gay activists. It was years later before we got out of Viet-nam and if that was success, it took some time.
But more importantly, that movement changed our country. Nixon was impeached, the republican party died for the first time and nothing in government was exempt from press scrutiny. To prevail doesn’t always mean to win.
Yes they can! Obama inspired them to go out and vote in the first place and now they will follow through until they get the change they want.
I hope so Jack. The Iranian government don't seem to be able to stop the amateur videos from reaching the rest of the world. And with what we have seen so far, I can't see that any intelligent government around the world would back Mr. Imanutjob or the so-called supreme leader of Iran. I think, at long last, the people of Iran see the tyranny that they have been living under for so many years and are finally coming together to stop it. I wish them well and may God go with them.
What country wouldn't do just what Iranian government is doing. I don't know of one.
A relatively non-violent solution to the Iran Election Crisis is to ship one Million Green Bikinis to Teheran and distribute them to the courageous women now protesting and fighting in the streets.
The Supreme Leader and Senior Clerics will quickly become incapacitated from strokes and cardiac arrest after viewing the "Green Bikini Resistance Movement" parading in the streets.
The soldiers and police will be too busy gawking at the women to shoot anyone, and may decide that the Bikini clad women may be correct in their desire to change the way that Iran is governed.
Babe Watch Iran may be the death knell of the Islamic Republic.
They already HAVE prevailed. For days they have been persistently and courageously risking everything, including their lives, to make the protest heard 'round the world. The demonstrations may end with the government of the "Supreme Leader" still in power, but things will never be the same. The people have succeeded, and no matter what happens next, they have won the battle.
Look at the history books, Jack. What happens when the people of a country want to become progressive, and the leaders force opression to keep things the way they are? In the end the people will win. Unfortunately, it will require a lot more blood shed. The people will not stay silent, and they know (thanks to twitter) that the world is on their side.
Why not? Isn't this how our own revolution started? These people are so brave and so determined that they just might make a differance.
The very fact that this repressive government can't stop news from getting out is a very hopeful sign. Viva la revolution in Iran.
Jack as we know from our own country's history it is something they have to do. Weather they are successful or not time will only tell and we as fellow persons of free thought, should give our silent support. The rants of the right wing nut case's of " the pres has not been stern enough with Iran", I say to them. We are not scolding children and we don't need to antagonize the dictators more than they are. Just let the Iranian people that the American public is behind them.
No. Protesters couldn't even prevail in a country like the United States of America when our elections were stolen-twice. Protesting the results is hopeless; but there is always a next election.
The protesters have a chance were they given a helping hand in the form of useful assistance, and the West not be so worried about offending the oppressive clerics. Otherwise it will be Bejing all over again....brave students against Tanks and Machine guns. My Prayers as a Free American are with them. God Bless.
I sure hope they can, after seeing the young woman Neda lay dying on the street in Iran I can't understand how people can kill their own countrymen and women like that. I am convinced that there is no stopping the fight now. Too much blood has been shed, supreme leader, Ha!
Steve
Los Angeles
A repressive regime was over-thrown in 1979 and there is no reason why it couldn't happen again.
Depends on how much they want it. If they want it enough they will win. We found for our independence and many of our forefathers died to get it. It will mean something if they fight for it. Will not mean much if other countries get involved.
The protesters in Iran have a better chance of prevailing than Americans have of getting universal health care and joining all the other modern societies around the world.
It should be abundantly clear to most Americans by now that these same tactics will eventually be required in the U.S. to change the culture in Washington and get modern day legislation.
Sure they can, Jack. After all, they don't have Rush Limbaugh there rooting for their party of change to fail.
Yes they can. It happened in 1979. It took a year but it worked with the help of others.
jack, its hard to remedy the iran problem unless we fully have international support. what are other muslim countries doing to get involved in trying to help. everybody knows that the election was flawed and reminds me of florida. we also have north korea to deal with a some point.all of us, republicans,democrats,independents must get behind our president and hopefully with his wisdom and help from his administration we can shoulder this together.we have other issues in our own country we need to fix also..god help us BEN DIMAS STOCKTON, CALIF
No, not with the revolutionary guard and those sympathetic with the religiously owned presidency in charge. I think they should continue to protest, but I think, at this point, it's a losing situation for the protesters.
It is not the protesters we should be worried about prevailing, it is civil liberty and humanity. And yes, it will prevail.
If the world steps in. But alone, they cannot. They must either keep this up, and hope the international community backs them, or take up arms and begin the revolution. As Napolean has once said: "A revolution can neither be made nor stopped." Only time will tell. Remember Neda.
Yes.
No.
Yes!!! But now, they must take the fight back from the streets and organize a resistance on the order of the French, Czech, and other resistance groups during WWII
It is wonderful yet sad to see such a staunch protest for democracy. It is shades of the the 70's and the vigilence of the youth movement against the Vietnam war. I was particularly taken aback by the video shot of the the young Neda laying and dying. The look in her eyes, the blood, the father standing helpless above her. Such a tragedy.
The movement will end once enough Neda's are killed. It will have to go underground where it will fester for years to come. The government of the day will prevail for now, but we have seen the 'true' face of Iran. Those who want freedom to express and be free of government manipulation.
The Ayatollah Khamenei has already lost. Neda has defeated him.
Jack,
I wish I could say I believe the protestors in Iran will prevail, and have the freedom they seek. I hope, I pray but I'm also scared.
Yes, but it will take a world to raise this child....not just a village.
Prevail in what way? Fair vote counting? No.
Can successful protests change a country like Iran?
Not a chance.
The huge protests against the war in Iraq, before that war even began, couldn't change a country like America, Iran doesn't stand a chance.
Yes, by force. Thats the only way anything gets done in the Middle East. Negotiations within these nations are futile, as shown by our attempts to reform them.
They've done it before, they can do it again. If the people want it bad enough. Strength in numbers and brother against brother will bring an end to the unrest, if the leaders are leaders they'll listen. If not...it can get uglier.
in an idealistic world, yes. but we live in a time where man no longer feels love for another man. where countries like america will sit and watch another country kills its own people and suppresses their human rights. i pray and hope that iran's people succeed. but then again, we live in a cynical world.
if they stay organized they stand a very good chance.
Yes,if they want it? Then by god Take it Its their Time to shine.Remember Jack People of a country always out number Authoritative figures.
To Quote the Movie V from Vendetta *People Shouldn't Be Afraid of Their Government, Governments' Should Be Afraid of Their People*
Not a chance! The question is, should we (The Western World) do anything about it.
They sure can. Look what the Republicans did to get G.W.Bush in the White House, and not a shot was fired.
Yes the Iranian demonstrators can prevail. Especially in these days with the internet and social networks available for their use.
They need a clear Leader who can help them organize peaceful demonstrations. They can ask the U.S. and other countries for help if they want and need it.
Or course they can prevail. It was a small populace of farmers and other impassioned colonists that defeated the most powerful nation on the planet during the American Revolution.
If the People of Iran stay strong and keep to their cause of Freedom and Liberty, they can preveil against the Tyranny of their Repressive Regime. We the People of America stand with the People of Iran in their persuit of Freedom.
The answer is yes Jack, because there will be no Iran if the people don't support the administration. They will find it very hard to keep killing their own people, and have the support of all religion leaders
David
Martinsburg, WV
I think that the citizens of Iran can prevail in this crisis. I have hoped and prayed these past few days that the people of Iran would rise up and throw off the yoke of oppression they have endured for the past 30 years. The people should not waver for if they do then they will fail and be forced to endure another 30 years.
The time is NOW. They must rise as one. They must remember the lessons of other uprisings that failed, like Tiananmen Square.
Here's a question, do you think protestors of this nature would prevail in a country like the U.S. Unfortunately I think the results would be very similar.
US shouldn't middle in Iran. It's great that you follow Iran and let people know what's going on there but it's not United state's bussiness. Iranian people are strong can take care of themselves and they can over throw the regim if they want without others help like they over threw Shah.
They can prevail...although I believe it begins with successful efforts to remove the Supreme Leader.
Good afternoon,
I am a proud American with Iranian heritage. I think US should get involved in the turmoil in Iran. A free and peaceful Iran will result in a peaceful middle east and world. I request that we support the Iranian protestors and students in their quest for true democracy and peace. The Iranian protestors will not be able to move forward and sustain under fire without any help. They need foreign help to be liberated. This is not meddling and/or intervening. Let's help them... .
Please note, most of the basijis are not Iranian. They are hired help from surrounding countries such as Lebonon and Syria (i.e. hezbollah). They get paid to be part of the basiji force. Some of them don't even speak Persian...
No, they can't succeed in a country like Iran. Which is exactly why they are voicing themselves.
They don't want their country to be like Iran (is now).
As for Obama, what could one man say that millions aren't saying already.
NEDA
Joe in Philly
Jack, if it happend before it will happen again, history is repeating itself, the powers that be is well advised not to overlook youth and their strong belief.
Jack,
Only a Republican, with their massive egos and tiny little IQs, could think that our president needs to publicly restate the obvious by supporting a regime change in Iran. Do these Rush Limbaugh clones ever tire of playing the role of the ugly American, and painting the rest of us with their tar brush. This situation calls for finesse and statesmanship; not clumsy, heavy-handed outside provocation.
Any great sports announcer will tell you, "At times of high drama, anything you say will only detract from the situation." This is the time to let the defiant roar of the crowd continue to swell naturally.
Bill Crews
They did thirty years ago. Why can't they now?...Savak was just as determined as the Basiji, or Revolutionary Guard and they failed to hold the line. However it will be the women of Persia who step up this time and make the difference.
Yes I do Jack, but only if they become soldiers in a revolution.
– Mitchell from Orlando, Fl
This protest in Iran reminds me of the civil right demostrations of the sixties that took place in this country. If the people in Iran continue with their protest then then will prevail. You cannot deny them freedom and the Iranian goverment should get ready for a long and hard fight.
If the western powers including U.S. stop supporting mulahs, off course they can prevail. IRI can not survive a week without their support.
As long as we follow President Obama's lead and keep our nose out of it so that that Iranians know that we support them, but without overt action–yes! Thank God John McCain isn't in the WH or we'd be sending the marines!! I don't think there is 1 ounce of brains in the entire Republican party!!
No. The protesters have done everything humanly possible to fight their oppressive leaders. The responsibility relies on US to drive out their leaders the same why we drove out Saddam Hussein in Iraq
YES! If we can stay out of it, and the big mouths here can shut up, the people of Iran can take control! They must continue to fight for what they want their country to be, as did we and many other nations. Their losses must not be in vain!
Hello Jack. Well in my opinion they have already exposed that there is a definite fracture in the tyrannical opressive, political regime. They ( iranian people) will now have to decide if they will stand against the Supreme Leader and ahmadineijad. The US and world supports them But to change things there it may require a lot more of their blood to be spilled. So only time can tell if this is the beginning of the end of the regime or the end of a revoluntion. May God strengthen them for the struggle ahead.
Yes they can Jack, especially since they know that people all around the world are supporting them. Perhaps its time for the world to realise that these brave people are NOT represented by their government. Could you imagine killing these brave souls by following the slogan used by McCain "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"? These people are fighting to change their own government and it will happen. Perhaps this is a time for the citizens of the U.S. to become more aware of their past history in that part of the world.
I have serious doubt if they will, however they have put enormous crack in the regime. My great amazement is that the so call supreme leader Ayatolla that suppose to obey God cannot even tell the truth, men these dictators are ruthless and heartless. The leading cleric in Iran will encouter the rot of God if they do not desist from this tyranic and oppression. MacFab from Nacogdoches
Personally, as an American just back from Iran a few months ago, and witnessing how brutal the militia and revolutionary guards are with the people....I feel that Iranians need to confront them with weapons or they don't stand a chance .
Sadly, no. Religious tyrants invoking God's will never bode well for any country’s citizenry. When God “makes” or “influences” the decisions there’s always hell to pay. Makes me wonder what God would think of being used in this way.
Their protest itself is a victory, and makes me ashamed of my fellow Americans who stood by and did nothing when our own presidential election was stolen in 2000. Maybe if we'd taken to the streets back then, we wouldn't be in the sorry circumstances we are right now.
The only way that they can succeed is to infiltrate the Revolutionary Guard and those surrounding the supreme leader. The supreme leader and Amedinijad must go in order for these revolutionaries to get a strong foothold. They need the likeness of Mutiny on the Bounty.
when the united State's Government Killed Eight Kent state students the protesters didn't win ! Why should the protesters win in Iran?
Americans need to view the current events in Iran as a warning of what happens to a nation once its' citizenry is disarmed. It almost always falls into the hands of dictators and tyrants and who rule with total disregard for personal liberty. Help the world, but keep an eye on your own nation as well.
It all depends on what happens next. Do they just continue to go out in the streets where they can be killed, or do they strike and shut it all down? Just don't show up for work. If the oil don't flow, the leaders will have to go!
jack,
of course they can. remember the soviet union, the british colonies in north america?
After 9/11, the people of Iran were the only people in the Middle East, who under the oppression of the current government and in spite of the fact that all gatherings and rallies are deemed “illegal”, poured into the streets of Iran to hold a vigil in a show of solidarity with the people of the United States against the tragic act of terrorism in New York.
Why is it then that Americans, as well as people of other nationalities around the world, are not rallying in solidarity and support of the people of Iran?
Through the unprecedented impact of citizen journalism via Twitter, Facebook, and other social networking sites, the protesters have already prevailed. By sharing the sights and sounds of Iran's Green Revolution with each other and with the world, they have ensured that, no matter what happens, their country will never be the same again.
jack. can the protesters win with demonstrations? I can still remember 4 dead at Kent State, did they win?
The ayatollah Khamenei has alreay lost. Neda has defeated him.
Oshkosh, Wisconsin
Unfortunately, It'll probably be that "Bang! Bang" is stronger than "Tweet Tweet".
If any real change happens, its going to happen because of the infighting at the top levels of the government.
Protesters can only protest while they are alive, and the Revolutionary Guards are going to keep ratcheting up the pressure on them, until they can't take it anymore. Without weapons, they won't be able to defend themselves.
Having said that, I hope I'm wrong. My wife has family in Iran.
Jack,
If we can prevail in the US after the 2000 and 2004 election thefts, then surely the Iranians can and eventually will. Ahmadenijahd and Khataami don't come close to Dick Cheney.
A young woman called Neda has guaranteed success with her blood.
Manassas, VA
God, I hope so Jack. They deserve it for being so brave in the face of such oppresion.
The protesters did make a difference in '78 – '79. A fact that those in power must be thinking about in every move they make. My question is, "What is the morality, what is the legitimacy of a regime that kills its children in the name of God's divine will?'" In addition to what they are against, the protesters need to form a vision of what they are for before their protests can become successful.
Mimi
ColorSO
Of course Jack, watching these protestors reminds me of the civil rights movement, even though i wasn't even born yet. Regardless of how many people are beat it won't stop till the people get what they want! People should have the right to speak how they feel especially when they are peaceful protest.
Absolutely!! The protesters MUST keep on fighting to get the freedom they so desire. Freedom has a steep price but so well worth it! I wish I could help them. No other fight equals the value of freedom.
Well Jack the fact of the matter is change cannot come to any country in the World without a little help from the good old U.S.of A. The Iranian people may not know it yet but they need America's help. What is a revolution without a wide array international espionage, economic hit men and the threat of sanctions and military action. This is no time for America to sit back, strike while the irons hot, this is what we've been waiting for.
Simply put Jack, 'Yes they can.'
Who will will in Iran? Just like the pen is mightier than the sword, the cameraphone is mightier than the gun. The old fogies running the country can't even figure how to block the media. The protesters will win, eventually if not now.
Yes, protesters can win - but only if they shift to alternative methods of civil disobedience. They need analysis and training by an expert. It's not an amateur sport but requires as much strategic savvy as running a shooting-war. There are experts who could help provide an analysis. Take, for example, Srdja Popovic, the leader of Otpor, the group that ousted Milosevic without shedding a drop of blood. His organization, CANVAS, has been training others on how to carry off a "color revolution."
Jack, who is in charge of the election process in Iran Catherine Harris?
I come from a proud African Ameican history. A history riddled with the horrors of slavery ,oppression, and Jim Crow. I know that if we were delivered from that nightmare, the Iranians can be delivered from thiers. The cause for liberty only dies wen we loose sight of the prospects of hope.
Yes, there is chance because there is such great pess coverage making them feel like the world cares and is watching..... This is in contrast to CNN coverage of USA protests against candidates and elected officials (that must be in "protest zones" away from camera and those being protested.
Bush got fewer votes and on top of that, then the supreme court decison was the ulitmate "judiial activism". Where was CNN's coverage of US political protesters... ever? Why? How about WTO protests in Seattte? How about coverage of protest zones in our democracy there according to Obama all dissent have right to protest withou fear.... can I hold a sign up as George Bush speaks? NO WAY!
Absoultly they can prevail, can a bussiness run with out its clients or costomers? No more than a country can run without its people, Shut the country down citizens of iran the government cant run without you thats why they oppose your protest, you derserve a government that works, my heart goes out to you all.
The government in China did not fragment under pressure and prevailed. Given that the protesters do not have access to sufficient weapons to repel government forces, they cannot, in themselves, prevail. But they are a potentially potent catalyst. If they can provoke rutpures in the ranks of the Mullahs, the whole edifice may fall, especially with the pressure from world exposure. The government may also realize that Ahminidijab's presidency may not be worth the candle. Who will want to be seen dealing with him?
There is hope.
They will overcome because women's rights are ripe for harvest there.
Jack,
I believe that the Iranian people can prevail, and that they can succeed in getting there freedom. All they have to do is continue to fighting, no matter how ugly it gets and never give up. If they do, it will be like they are giving up on not only their own freedom, but their childrens; as well as those in other nearby countries who Iran's election could effect greatly. For example, Israel.
The Iranians need to stand strong, and they need to realize a lot of the world is behind them. Again, don't give up, because getting through this and achieving your own freedom, can be a huge stepping stone in bringing piece to the middle east.
Also, alot has changed since 1979.
No! the protesters will not prevail.
for even if the election is over turned.
The people who are protesting right now will become the supporters,
and the current supporters will become the protesters.
There will always be one group or another that will not be happy with the way things are.
Zolicon
History suggests that it can but only on one condition: the police, not the Basiji or Republican Guards must actively support the opposition. The revolution in 1979 and the collapse of the Soviet coup in 1991 are evidence of success in the face of a totalitarian government. To date, the police haven't taken a particularly active role in suppressing the demonstrations and have even participated quietly in the memorial service for the slain Nede earlier today.
As far as whether or not protesters can prevail, I think they already have in a way. As long as they continue to stand for what they believe, and continue to make their stories heard, I believe these amazing human beings are showing the world a great example. I applaud their desire and strong will for standing up what should be rightfully theirs.
Absolutely, the protesters CAN prevail in Iran. All of them have strong beliefs and I admire their strength and courage. May God bless them and give them strength to fight for their freedom of speech.
Persistence is how my family made it to the United States and that same persistence will help them be heard. They have already won because we have heard all their voices all around the world.
It has started, but will probably not result in overthrowing the theocracy during this "news cycle."
Our own Revolution didn't occur in a single news cycle either.
LW
Do many people in the US really want to forcefully enter Iran? That seems to be the only way to directly protect the protesters, but I personally don't think it is the pragmatic thing to do. Even more people will be hurt. I've heard Republicans want to "bomb" them. How will that help? It seems to me that all choices are bad – now that the US has been put in the position of being a bully for so long.
I am a Christian and I like the Islamic Iranian reformers. They really seem like good people ... friendly, productive people.
This past week has been such a tradgedy for the Iranian citizens but I do think the protester's can prevail. I know its hard to keep protesting when such violence and killings keep breaking out but I urge the Iranian citizens to let there voices be heard. Only when our voices are heard and the more people protest can change really happen. Here at home in the United States back in the day when black people were discriminated against, beaten, sprayed with water hoses, etc... there voices were eventually heard. The Iranians no matter what in my opinion need to stand up and let there voices continue to be heard no matter what, eventually there votes will count, dont back down now.
Scott Stodden (Freeport, IL)
Jack I am old enough to remember 1979. These people traded one dictator for another (all wrapped up in new clothes like the wolf in in little red riding hood.) They may have decided enough is enough. They have bought 1 government down, if they have the will they will bring this one down as well. Let us hope they will choose better leaders this time. However it has to be their decision, we cannot choose for them.
Yes! This may be the Woman's Revolution in Iran... the FIRST anywhere in the world since the beginning of history and the fathers, brothers, and sons are standing with women and all Iranians for personal freedom. This feels very, very different from the civil rights movement of Dr. King's generation and very, very different from the civil war in America. It is unique, a combination, a new peaceful fight... it is Iranian... it is Neda's Revolution!
Jack,
As long as the Supreme Leader has control of the Revolutionary Guards and the Basij to act as his buffers, he will not fall. We need to remember that Khamenei will never bend to his people because he believes that he his is only accountable to God, not his own citizens.
Sure hope so Jack. It is not the job of the U.S.
Let some of the other country's take over. I'm glad that bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb,Iran did not get in as our President. Thank God.
Dear Jack,
I just wanted to let you know that intelligence service in Iran controls everything. They find where the messages go and attack homes. One of my friend told me on the phone. I have been trying to chat with my friends and no one dares to say a word. They created a state of fear. As someone who actually got arrested once by the Iranian militia myself I will tell you they are heartless and brain washed. They do not even take a second to kill people. It takes a lot of courage to go to the street and face them. You can not even imagine how scary it is. I think this time is serious. I am not asking Obama to make any comments however I am expecting all the civilized government around the world not recognize Ahmadinejad and do not invite him to United Nations again. After all this election was fraud and somebody who calls his people bunch of goats should not rule the country.
Thanks
Well Jack, depends on what you mean by 'prevail'. It seems that the "elected" president will remain in power, and Moussavi's candidacy permanently stolen.
However, these outcries are only the beginning of a changing Iranian view. The people's voice cannot be silenced any longer, nor will they allow it to be silenced. Iranians will continue to fight for true democracy
As far as whether or not protesters can prevail, I think they already have in a way. As long as they continue to stand for what they believe, and continue to make their stories heard, I believe these amazing human beings are showing the world a great example. I applaud their desire and strong will for standing up what should be rightfully theirs.
Waynesburg, PA.
Anything is possible, Jack....you can never tell what is going to happen in the future! But what is important right now is the right to FREEDOM OF SPEECH, which is not being followed in Iran!! Iranians are looking for their rights, their democracy and justice for Neda!! Neda, who is symbol of freedom now and whose name is written in history and the children of Iran will remember her in future!!! That is what the Iranians are demanding and I believe they will fight more, even how bloody it would be, to get their rights and freedoms back!!!
It takes time and it is very hard in Iran because if you are against them they believe you are against god they kill you easily in the name of religion and they don't care about the rest, but history shows if any gov. kills its own people they will fell off sooner or later .
After seeing the guts of these kids in Iran, do you still have to ask this question Jack? . Iranians threw out all the invaders out of their country throughout history, and they shall throw out this invader regime as well. It's not matter of if but when.
The regime let's the Iranian masses THINK they have freedom. Here in the U.S. we know we have freedom. It is good to live in the U.S. Maybe others will think before they condemn us.
I think the people of Iran have many options before them to get the government to get real including not returning to their jobs and shutting down many industries in Iran. The daily protests continue despite the government attacking them. The world is watching and letting the voices be heard. The longer the government stands its ground the louder the Iranian voices become. I am an American and the Iranian people have made me appreciate what I have. I wish them all the best.
@FAFAF
When you see some one who is hungry, feed them!
when you see some one who needs clothes, cloath them!
When you see some one who needs shelter,shelter them,
And most important of all is:
WHEN YOU SEE SOME ONE WHO NEEDS LOVE,LOVE THEM.
Thus sayith the lord thy God!!!
Sulphur, LA Iran's revolution thirty years ago started the same way. The social media are now able to actively show the difference between what the governments want us to see and what is happening. I may not be Iranian myself, but if the people of that country know that people around the world support them, they will at least have hope for the future.
Yes. We did it once 30 years ago, we will do it again – Neda's blood should not be wasted
Jack, why don't they strike it's safer and will squeeze the goverment.
They can only prevail if they play it real smart and not get physically attacked while they continue to apply pressure. That is going to require the protesters to bend in the wind like a willow to bear the occasional storm. They will become weary of clubbing and sniping innocent people quickly if they cannot incite a violent response from the protesters.
Unfortunately, as history as cleary demonstrated, protesters must be armed in order to effect change. The American Revolution would not have happened without organizing citizens and arming them. Right now, the situation in Iran is not unlike Kent State – protestors are being picked off by thugs who have guns and are blood thirsty not only to make their point but to keep their power. The real threat in Iran is the militia. I'd venture to guess that if Ahmadinejad decided to soften his stance, the militia would pick him off as well. There is no such thing as a Islamist Democracy. All religions have their own agendas, and they are not always in support of the citizens. All we can do is offer our support to the protestors and pray for their success in attaining their much-desired freedom.
Yes.But only if they DON'T choose the path of violence(even if they are provoked by police and govt.).They can only win with Non-violence(ofcourse there will be sacrifice)...make the injustice visible...if they believe their cause is right..it's worth dying for that cause...righteousness prevails...
Let Iran be an object lesson to Americans who don't understand the wisdom of separating church and state. Because when you combine the two, you get – religion.
Morally, they already have.
When the Supreme Leader sends in the armed thugs to kill innocent people it's the same as a religeous super-power making a deal with the Devil.
Vietnam, North Korea and China are examples that show protesters can never prevail. Iran is not the same as Iran in 1979. The regime has created mechanism to secure their own regime longevity. Thus, it will take a lot more to destroy them.
Hi Jack,
I pray for those men, women and young children putting their life on the line. They have nothing but courage and heart and pray that they get rid of this horribe regime. Im glad CNN is covering this because many people are ignorant about the history of Iran and dont really know what they are talking about. Remember, we are lucky to live in a country that allows us to express our freedom without fear of being prisoned and killed. They didn't choose their supreme leader or to live this way, they were oppressed and cohearsed into it, (as one comment said).
Elham
Los Angeles
How many years was "We shall Overcome" sung.
This is NOT America's war, at lest NOT YET
Will some one in the Republican camp please come to their senses, if for no other reason than to re establish a two party system. Their foreign policy of READY, FIRE, AIM has NEVER worked .
Jack,
Yes they can. Many things have changed in the favor of citizens in Iran in the last 30 years. After making many friends from the middle-east during my college years, some of whom are from Iran, many of them made it very clear that they DO want successful relations with the United States and the rest of the western world. With the growth of technology, not only is it nearly impossible for the Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad to keep the rest of the world from seeing inside Iran, it is just as impossible for them to keep their constituents from seeing the opportunities presented to their nation from beyond their borders. These are a kind, gentle people who have grown far beyond the oppression of their dictators mentalities. Brute force can not quiet them any longer.
Brett
Scranton, PA
YES, they can prevail, even though the blood will flow. These courageous protesters are using the non-violent strategies of Gandhi and King, whose self sacrifice ultimately brought freedom to millions. The KEY will be CNN keeping this story alive through the gateways of Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube.
As a Persian American and to answer your question yes – but what will happen after that? – I guess every 30 years we get fed up and go to the street to start it all over again. I am hopping this time.
If the demostrators stay on course and keep up the message just as the Blacks in America did in Salma Alabama when police and State trooopers decended on them with guns,tear-gas and clubs,then they also will prevail.
Just as the CIA tried to devide them by instigating roumers,and fear,the National Guard and the police will try the same tacts and ploy BUT the secret is to stay UNITED,PEACEFUL and MOBILIZED both in Salma and in Tehran.
Njau Nganga,Austin TX
A peaceful march will only get you so far against a Dictatorship that's armed with weapons Jack.. Just look at the founding history of America,
we had our war with the English and our Civil War to find freedom.
If they want true freedom they will have to arm themselves to fight
for their freedom and over throw their Dictatorship. If they don't I fear
they will be wiped out by the Iranian government just like China's Tiananmen Square .
Why do people feel the need to say that the US elections were "stolen" in 2000 and 2004, when asked about protests in Iran? Your side won the last election, get over it. And only an armed revolt will allow these folks to succeed. I know some of you think that all people are good and we need to learn to love each other and everything will be great, but that's not reality, it's a fantasy. Does it sound good, of course. But we are animals. Animals with primal thoughts and instincts and some of us are born or made to be evil and rotten and those people must be dealt with.
I'd like to believe they can do it again, but it looks like the 2000 election in this country gave Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a grand idea. Can we start calling him Mahmoud AhmadineBUSH? I will.
If what you mean by prevail is to overthrow or eliminate the theocracy; then No. If what you mean by prevail is to expose the religious zealots for what they are and to eventually bring their form of democracy to the east then, yes. Remember the black struggle began with a people yearning for freedom and a taste of life, liberty and the persuit of happiness.
Of course people of Iran are going to prevail. This was long overdue and last saturday Iranian people saw an opportunity to come out united against this heinous regime and say enough is enough. It's time for khamenei and all the other mullahs to pack their bags and run for their life...This time people are not kidding...
Yes then can succeed. The problem is that the protesters aren't armed. These people are facing fully armed soldiers with cell phones and rocks. With enough pressure and intervention from western countries guns wouldn't be necessary but as it stands now the protesters need guns and that's something western powers can provide.
from Maryland : Hey Jack. The Iranian people do have the ability to be successful in this situation. This is their chance to overthrow the Islamic Regime and Clerics which fooled them 30 years ago. The only way in which this is possible is if the rest of the world keeps out but keeps vigilance. This has been an internal and organic process and it must remain that way. The Iranian people remain proud, focused, undeterred..they need no help. After all who can forget what happened with the Shiite Muslims in Iraq in 1991 and even earlier the Hungarians in the 1950's. In one case Bush Sr. encouraged the Shiite people which led to thousands of more deaths. The same with Eisenhower and the Hungarians.
If a black man named Barack Hussein Obama can be elected President of the United States, anything's possible.
Medina,Ohio
Jack based on the pictures and videos trickling from Iran it's evident that the Iranians are protesting that their voices be heard not only in their country but globally as well,while it might be hard for a quick positive outcome make no mistake even if the current leadership turns deaf ears to it's citizens there's one thing they ought not to forget and that is. You can resist the invasion of an army but not an idea whose time has come.It's time for change of leadership in Iran Period!
Of course it can succeed if enough people are dertermined to insist on a change. Unfortunaely there will be an overabundance of blood spilled in the effort.
The supreme leader and the mullahs will not allow anyone to dispute their authority over who they want to serve as president. They do not want a reformist who will question their laws and authority within their Islamic Republic. The protesters will not change their envision of the most powerful Islamic state in the world. It will take a united effort from the free world to take on the government in Iran and only then will the protesters prevail! Now is the time for us to get out of Iraq and use are forces in the area to stop the Iranian government from not only suppressing the will of the people but to also stop their support for terrorism and ambitions of building nuclear bombs which the whole of the free world wants and should be willing to send their armed forces to help in changing the religious fanatics within Iran!
My heart goes out to the Iranian people that are protesting. I wish them all success in their attempts, as there is little doubt about the lack of authenticity of their national election. But, it is doubtful they will succeed, when it is becoming so violent. At what point will the real crackdown occur, with total loss of freedom? I fear it is coming soon.
Yes,it can happened,Jack,and it has to play out in the streets with people who are willing to sacrifice,after all sacrifice is the first glowing ember of liberty!!
If what you mean by prevail is to overthrow or eliminate the theocracy; then No. If what you mean by prevail is to expose the religious zealots for what they are and to eventually bring their form of democracy to the east then, yes. Remember the black struggle began with a people yearning for freedom and a taste of life, liberty and the persuit of happiness.
Jack:
Of course the killed ones will not prevail like those at Kent State University in Ohio, where live bullets were used as well. Protestors like Patriots take on foul government with the only effective fluid available to them and which tyranical leaders understand... blood.
The protesters must keep at it. Freedom is worth everything. I was 14 years old when the US government allowed the police to beat us with batons, hose us down with water, and sick dogs on us. My brother was severely injured after being bitten repeatedly by a dog held by a police officer. This was in 1964 and to this day he is unable to use his right arm. I was hit with a billy club repeatedly and fell unconscious. No international help came, but we persisted. The cost of freedom can never be underestimated. I pray that the Iranian citizens are able to free themselves from the current government.
Of course the protesters can prevail, and are. Iran is not the same country it was a week ago. The people have paved the way for serious reform no matter who ends up in charge. The only serious change in history has been brought about in the streets. It's only when the population forces authorities to represent them that there is real democracy.
Yes. The fact that the demonstrations have gone on this long and will probably continue is a victory. Let's hope that we are witnessing the begining of the fall of the opressive factions that have hurt Iran, the middle east and the rest of the world for so many years.
The Supreme Leader of Iran only has the power the people there allow him to have. The protesters and the riot guards both need to wake up and realize they're equally being manipulated into fighting each other instead of the real ones who are the cause of it all.
The current administration has the guns. The protesters have rocks. I'm betting on the guns dude.
Jack: The protesters in Iran can make a point that Iran is run by dictators who only care about their narrow minded agenda. The people are just for show and have no voice in their government. The protesters make me proud that somewhere in this world there are people who will stand up against tryants.
The protesters in Iran have already shown their will, and partially prevailed inspite of the hardline tactics displayed by the corrupt few who know their days are numbered !
IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF WHEN ! THE IRANIAN PRESIDENT AND THE 'SUPREME" LEADER KNOW THE MESS THEY HAVE CREATED FOR THEMSELVES IN THIS OPENLY APPARANT UNFAIR ELECTION PROCESS.
we want all thjose in iran to know that we and the world is with them.
No.
As long as there is a gov't that is corrupt and has a strong army the citizens will always be crushed.
The only thing wrong with Iran is it's so called Goverment.
Who was the idiot that thought Iran needed a Supreme Leader, and not just a regular Supreme Leader but one who thinks he's God and forces his moral standards upon the rest of the population.
When will these people learn to seperate God from politics?
Until they do that, they will be treated as nothing more than sub human.
It appears that Iran has changed already. In order to prevail, it will take the protesters overthrowing the entire way of Government in Iran in my view. I don't think they have a chance at this point in time but I would not be at all suprised to see them all come back more organized and armed. Scarey, that I actually am living through this part of history. I wake up at night with the image of Neda on my mind thanks to a Facebook friend who sent me the video, without a warning that what I was about to view was graphically heartbreaking.
Jack, we cannot interfere with Iran's problems right now no matter how many people are suffering, they must make their own destinies. We;re so spread out over the world right now and I am sick and tired of giving up our sons, daughters, fathers and family to fight for peop[e who won;t fight for themselves. We're being bankrupted by our help, when is it supposed to end? Let the world see what is going on and when our allies do something, we can only act then, and share the costs. Obama is doing the right thing to stay out of it., he would be the foil of the republicans when we were again embroiled in another expensive war, just what we need.
Jack,
I believe Abraham Lincoln said it the best: "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable – a most sacred right – a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world." I wish them all the success they need to overthrow this tyannical maniac!
Yes I beleive they can – isn't that how the current religious crew came to power???
I'm not sure exactly what is meant by "a country like Iran." As an Iranian-American, I am mildly offended by your wording, and can't help but wondering which countries might fall under the category of "countries like Iran." Iran has a unique history which is both ancient and rich. To answer your question about whether Iranians can prevail, I'd like to remind your viewers - and you - that during the millenia-long span of their history, Iranians have resisted invasion and occupation by Arabs, Turks, Mongols, Greeks, and Russians, not to mention many decades of British and American "meddling" and imperialism. Don't forget that it was a popular uprising - people on the street armed with nothing more than Molotov cocktails and LOTS of nerve - that toppled the Shah, whose army was one of the most powerful in the world. OF COURSE the Iranian people CAN and WILL prevail. If they don't do it this time, they will rise again. They are a proud, enlightened, and deeply politicized people, and can only be repressed for so long.
Sovereignty – and the legitimacy of a government – comes from the people, not from any army or police force. Even (or particularly) if Ahmadinejad is the legitimate victor, there is clearly a strong cultural divide between the population of urban centers like Tehran and the rest of Iran.
If the Iranian people are willing to fight for their desires, the Iranian government has the choice between reform and a bloody civil war – and a one-sided war only makes the oppressor more hated.
I think the government will make small concessions in order to calm the people from open rebellion.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." – Mahatma Gandhi
Over time they are certain to prevail, as their numbers comprise the future constituency of Iran. The depressingly uncertain, high-inflation economy of Iran is partially driving the protest, with the regime's poor standing with the U.S. at the forefront of the resistance. Whether they prevail now depends on the internal fizzures within the clergy and the consciences of the official ruling elite, which is the telling moral gulf deepening inside both camps the longer the protests continue. The valiant protesters have already won the sympathy and admiration of the world, which must rank these intrepid dissenters the bravest hearts on the planet right now. Helpful indeed we have an astute president who knows how to play this in order to help it succeed.
Sure they can and will eventually prevail. The time of the Shah has passed and the time of the Ayatollah will pass soon. But now is not the time for democracy in Iran. The foundation is now being laid for the future democracy of Iran. And the pains of shaking off the shakles placed upon the people of Iran with the intertwining of religion and government will be a sight to behold...however unsightly. I eagerly await Iran's democracy. I am a Caucasian, American-born woman age 53 and I hope that one day the Iranians will experience some democracy.
We should listen to the Republicans. This is what we should do. First, have the CIA trump up evidence that Iran is planning to attack Iraq with WMD. Tell Congress that Obama wants the authority to use the military in Iran but only as a last resort. Tell the public that anyone against this plan is anti-american. Invade Iran. No wait I was just having a bad dream. Obama is doing the right thing not shooting his mouth off like you know who (Bush). That would unite the Iranians against the Great Satan, give the Ayatollahs and excuse to crush the protesters and usher in another 30 years of religious rule in Iran.
God knows that answer and I ain't talking about Allah! Jack I see NO DIFFERENCE betwqeen Irans election from the Iraq, Hamas/Plo, Russian, Venezuelian, or AMERICAN elections. They all where corrupt & filled with fraud.
I don't know and I don't think any of your listeners know either. All of our information about Iran comes from what we are told by our government and that information has not been very reliable lately. I'm sure that most of us thought that the demostrations we saw last week were not possible, because we were told that dissent was not allowed. Maybe we need to step back and let Iran deal with their own internal problems. We should be more concerned with health care and our economic problems.
Mountain Home ID
Under zealous religious, "devine" oppression, with oil arming those in power, the brave, young Iranian protestors will not be able to prevail unless armed to the teeth and in overwhelming numbers. I second the Kent State remarks made above (we had our own fallen, killed by the Nixon & Johnson Administrations and, again by the "W" Administration who also murdered thousands or innocent Iraquis). For all the Evalangelicals who want to cram their belief system down the throats of their fellow Americans: Know that the current Iranian power base is a model for what you think you want. For all of us spineless Americans who let the Supreme Court name "W" as president in 2000 in light of very obvious vote rigging in Floriada: Iran's protestors are showing us what we should have done.
I hope the protestors can overcome, but it will be tough. I would rather go to war with Iran now then having gone to war 8 years ago with Iraq. We knew Iran was a danger then too.
Yes, but they have to do it themselves. You can't free someone else, they have to do it for themselves or they'll never know how much it is truly worth.
they will and have – we need to smuggle 10million cell phones
into north korea and give them a chance– and they will -
prepaid phones of cource...
Hopefully they will. But everyone knows the one way rule in the Middle East. These people are so far behind the times and caught up in their delusional ideas that this will be near impossible at best. Good luck to them and maybe by some stretch they will prevail.
Jack, they can not win, but I'm all for them trying! Good Luck, protesters and keep going!
I am an Iranian American. The answer is “yes.” What is needed now is a strong stance of an international coalition in support of the movement. Unfortunately, the US has misused its global political capital so badly during the Bush years, that now when there is a “real” and “just” cause for using its political capital, the US is paralyzed.
Yes if they keep it up. Even though the supreme leader and the revolutionary guard are going up against them I feel they can still win, let's not forget what happened when Gandhi was fighting for independence for India with non-violent resistance and we all know how that turned out.
Dear jack,
It’s come to my attention that a lot of people are comparing this event in Iran to what happen in 1979
! let’s not forget that in 1979, the shah of Iran did not kill anyone is was this regime that came into Iran and started to kill people who worked with the shah or were suspected to do so! this time Iranian are facing something much more... they are facing clod blooded killers, killers who would sniper out a young innocent girl standing next to her father only watching the protest, she wasn’t even holding a rock or sign! Honestly I don’t know what will happen in Iran, but all I can wish and hope is that these people were not killed in vain! Being Iranian myself, my family had to leave the country many years ago! Knowing Iranians, they will not GIVE up! They will fight and they will be UNITED!
This in about freedom now! This is the time we should all be Iranians!
To the people in iran, WE BELIEVE IN YOU! DONT GIVE UP!
The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams, a quote by Eleanor Roosevelt.
The only thing that would work would be a violent mass uprising. The religious radicals running the country will not be deterred from their dictatorship under any other conditions.
Yes, if us provide some communication help, like providing some kind of satellite internet service or using some of the navy ship or neighboring country to provide broadcasting via VHF and UHF to Iran by oppisitins,because not all Iranian can watch satellite specially they are illegal in Iran.
From the looks of it the answer is no until they get the willpower to start taking guns and putting bullets into the brains of cops and military. I think they will have to turn that corner in order for it to happen.
Iran is another in the long line of examples why we need separation of church from state.
The protesters can succeed, but that would require the help of members of Iran’s current leadership. If they can’t convince the Supreme Leader to give into them, and they probably can’t, the only way for them to succeed is to get rid of him. Short of revolution the only way to do that is via the Assembly of Experts, which has the power to dismiss a Supreme Leader.
The Assembly of Expert’s happens to be chaired by a Moussavi supporter whose daughter has participated in the protests. If the protesters can show the Assembly of Experts that support for a change is strong enough then they can win.
Something for us to all remember is that the Iran people have not asked for our (US) help in resolving this matter. They are doing this alone. This is an internal issue that will be handled by the people of Iran.
We also need to remember that the Iranian people do not need to be armed to solve this issue, they weren't armed in 1979 when they revolted and they don't need to arm themselves now.
If they wanted to they could demonstrate by staying home and not going to work and not going to school, and not providing services, not going to mosque, they could literally lock down their nation.
The GOP and their cowboy mentality need to get a grip. They are not helping the US or the Iranian people when they are stiring up all this rhetoric – like those new tv commericals telling Obama to take a hardline stand and GOP leaders blathering on and on.. If they supported the Iranian people so much where were they during the last election?
Jenna
Roseville CA
Jack,
The people have many options before them including the protest march and simply not returning to their jobs and shutting down important industries in the country. What the Iranian government does not get is that the longer they don't listen to their citizens the louder their voices become. I know for myself, I have gained an appreciation of what I have being an American citizen. God bless them and give them strength.
Yes they can. The scenes of the police using hoses, clubs and gas on the crowds remind me of similiar scenes throughout our country in the sixties during the civil rights movement. And it was the same tatics that led to the Iranian revolution of 1979. The important thing is that the protestors have support from a substantial portion of the people and from the police and/or army. Because the news we are getting is not vetted, and we really can't know for sure what is really going on, we will need to wait and see.
Yes they the protestors can prevail, remember what happened with the Berlin wall jack. For over 30 years the people of Iran have been oppressed and silenced and it is time that this generation stand and let their voices be heard.
yes the irarians over through the shah.. and he was as repressive and was backed by the USA
Same reason this won't be aired. The politicians are guilty of Conflict of Interest and Collusion with the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries. Along with the operatives for the Conglomerates imbedded in the Executive, Legislative and Judicial Branches of our gov't. Face it, the Neo Con owned Conglomerates yank the politicians puppet strings. Just another form of Colonialism and Treason.
Curtis
Tanana, Alaska
We sure hope so! Obama, not alone but with the help of E.U. and United nations should do something!! The momentum is dying! People are dying with empty hands against bullets! What all these people wanted was a little bit of freedom. Since there has been bloodshed it will keep going.
People have to understand that this generation is different than the one 30 years ago. They are much more educated, smarter and more females involved than the previous revolution. They also have the support of their parents that were involved in the previous revolution. 30 years ago was not long ago and the tactics have not been forgotten. Embassies should start pulling out their diplomats. All the countries that congratulated Ahamadinejad should take it back and not recognize him as the elected president (Russia, Turkey, Venezuela). Please tell Obama and other world leaders to never recognize him no matter how long this takes.
San diego
is it responsible for CNN to keep showing Prince Palavi crying on international television??????
I admire what the younger generation has done in Iran, but I doubt they can prevail at this time. However, this does send a clear message to the administration that it is time for change, and over time this may happen, providing they get support from the international community. The US can't be the only ones lending moral support.
How can the Iranian protesters fail when Republican and conservative members of congress have been so brave in their statements with Iranian politics and lives? It only remains for these courageous elected officials to apply to the Iranian embassy for permission to fly to Iran and join the Iranians in the streets in protest. The Iranian government might grant the permission if these valorous public officials agreed to sign a waiver of liability in case of injury or death. I, for one, would not object to taxpayer funds being used for such a venture.
Yes jack even the guards are coming back to protest after there slif.
Jack: Great q; I watch you everday at late lunch;
Answer is NOT THIS TIME; Their president is not like the ours, French or Mexican Presidents; He is not the leader; only a 3rd level administrator selected by the Ayatollah and the Ruling Islamic Council and he does as told. They even select who can run 4 president. The people understand this yet beleived they could at least select a top notch administrator to make their lives better & different. The brave Iranian people are in shock and really angry. Revolution requires deep long term resentment with no reasonable options. Message to the Mullahs, fascist para-military and the illiterate rural thugs: IT'S A COMING!! and coming for a people who believe in the ballot box. God Bless them!! Pray 4 them and America, Hands Off.
Jon in Oroville, Calif.
I cant understand why CNN is giving voice to the son of the Shah of Iran given the hatred of the Iranian people towards Reza Shah Palavhi. Today is not the first time I have seen him either referenced or interviewed by CNN
Iranians are smart people and now that the world is at their fingertips via the different forms of media, they will continue on and prevail. During the American Revolution people probably thought that it would be a long battle for independence for the United States. It was a long and costly fight, but they did succeed. These protests in many ways must have many parallels with our own quest for freedom.
Yes; with help. And I don't mean political rhetoric or military action or even government sanctions. At this time a simple thing like the president meeting the demonstrators outside the White House would send a strong message of support without compromising our hands off position.
Fred, Bloodshed and bikini's, you seem a bit hmmmm, tooooo AOL or National Enquirer to me. Sick.
Jack, yes Iranians can make the change. Too bad it has to be violent. Violence is needed to eradicate the Islamic dictatorship in power. Sounds contradictory, Islam and dictatorship! Jack, why are te war mongering republicans goading the president? He is doing the right things. A measured approach is required against these fatwa and violence dealing hypocrites. Has the past president not done enough damage already and do we need more Republican problems?
The Iranian government admitted the election was flawed.This gives credibility to the protest of citizens .This being said,it IS TIME for our president to commit himself to demand new elections in Iran. If the elections were upright then NO we should mind our own business. Blood for democratic freedom has been shed what price is higher?
revolt is not confined to any one nation. If people are suppressed and deprived of their rights, it will be done. I say Yes., jack. People in Iran are suppressed and they are fully aware of this wicked man, Ahammadinejad, who has rigged the elections to be the president. This people know, and they will win this pell-mell and turbulence.....
I think democracy can survive in Iran... This is a "moment of truth" for the Iranian people, and we hope and pray that the voices crying for freedom, in a land where freedoms are kept in a box can win the day.
I also feel that the United States does not need to bite it's lip. How dare we not voice our support for freedom... Would those same voices calling for silence have asked us to keep quiet during Tiananmen Square... While communism was holding whole peoples under it's hand??????? Voicing our support for the ideals of freedom is not just right, it is a must...
Jack, it is unlikely because of the strong military presence. U.S. covert operations have funded leftist militants in Iran for years in an effort to push candidates who would serve as useful idiots in advancing U.S. agendas. Even if the revolutionists get their way, it won't matter much in how the country is governed. Mousavi is also one who would put down revolution if need be. What is not reported by U.S. media, especially is that the current leader (I can say his name but can't spell it) has the support of many varied groups in Iran and not just a minority of rioters that the media keep focusing on. As usual we are not getting the whole picture as the what exactly is taking place. It's as if the Bush administration never left.
No Jack, not in a dictatorship which will use any means necessary to keep itself in power. The general populace is unarmed. I admire the spirit of the protesters but the Ayotollaha will unleash the trunchons, guns, helicopters, trrops and tanks and their laws to crush the protest. The protesters don't stand a chance when push comes to shove.
One can hardly call Iran a democracy in any sense of the word. It is an Islamic dictatorship.
This isn't a TV show or a movie that will be over in a couple of hours. Change takes time, as we can see all to well in our own country. The old men everywhere seem to think they hold all the cards. They forget there is a joker in the deck, and time is on the side of change once that card is dealt.
Yes the can but only through force in numbers. Even though the government police have the bullets the will of the people always triumphs in the end.
Dan
St. Louis, MO
yeah Jack they can prevail if, all of the worlds nations send a message to Iran, that no country will trade with them, or deal with them Diplomatically, the way their goverment stands now. Unless theres is a free and unbias election to settle the conflicts that have erupted from their last sham of an election. I keep hearing the world is watching, well it's time to act like we actually care about democracy and not just because it sounds good in speeches, if we believe it, lets prove it!
Dave from NH.
Jack,
It is appalling how the media is exploiting the situation in Iran, especially the death of the young woman on Saturday. Repeatedly, showing her death. I agree with CIA Analyst Michael Scheur when he told Wolf Blitzer yesterday, that if President Obama can keep quiet when close to 1400 people were killed in Gaza, he can and should say as less as possible when it comes to Iran. When you can offer no assistance to back up your words, all you are doing is sending young men and women in Iran to their deaths by egging them on with twitter, flicker, etc. And how much more cynical can the media get ? You could not even utter or talk about the shocking scenes in Gaza, where bodies of dead mothers were found next to their toddlers, but you have no qualms about showing the video of a young woman's death over and over again all day long yesterday, to suit your agenda (Showing Israel in a critical light is not good, but Iran, hey that is a different matter). (There was a media blackout in Gaza too). And you complain about Al Jazeera showing graphic footage.
It is always easy to egg on young men and women when you are not in harms way, thousands of miles away. And that goes for Media pundits and Politicians alike.
Funny, how Allahu Akbar (God is Great) and Martyrdom were such taboo words used to demonize and vilify Muslims in the Media, but now somewhat glorified by showing chants in the dark in Iran. Like I said, when it suits your purpose......
This is a response to Johnnie from FL.
Please try to get your facts right; these are sensitive times and it’s important that everyone gets “factual” information. The Supreme Leader is not elected; he is appointed for life... so the Iranian people have no voice/choice in this matter; nevertheless, your comment that since the Iranian people voted for him; they should live under his yoke, is not congruent with reality and – frankly – insensitive.
Jack,
Although an admiral question it cannot be answered by someone outside of Iran. Iran is a closed society. Although some information is getting out over the Internet, it is one sided. How many people support the current regime, are the protests just the tip of the iceberg, or will the fear of the government security forces prevail? My question is how long are we going to put up with our own inept government, at all levels, until we hit the streets?
John
Lompoc, CA
Mike in Quebec You are blaming the American media for anything in Iran, HA!? Did you hear what your President said today? Just curious.
Where there is the desire and hope for democracy, there will always be a chance. Yes, they can.
I fear that without outside help, the kids of Iran will fail. The U.S. had its revolution, but had weapons to fight with. Rocks are just not going to cut it. Iranians are fighting courageously now, and unfortunately, it seems that they're going to have to continue to the death. Many will have to publicly die to show the world how ruthless the regime is. But how can they live in a country that treats them with such disrespect and hatred? The rulers demand respect without earning it. Unfortunately, you can't talk to these fanatics; they have an answer for everything and don't seem to care that anyone can see through them. The next question is: How can America work with Iran after this? If all is swept under the rug, how can we ignore the damage done and the suffering that will continue? The world today is too small for us to be isolationists. And frankly, we are the infidels and always will be in the eyes of the Mullahs, so why worry about what they think of us? We already know, and it isn't likely to change. As long as we follow our hearts and consciences, we should just do what's right, not what's politically "safe."
Jack
I truly hope so.
As with the people of China, the people of Iran are good people seeking and loving freedom and a voice while under an misrepresented and totalitarian government that does not speak for them.
John
Carlsbad, CA
Jack, the protesters in Iran won't get any further than the protesters in Mexico did in the wake of Calderon's fraudulent election as president.
Sterling Greenwood/Aspen Free Press
The protesters? No. Same as in this country. Public protests have never actually accomplished anything concrete. Rather, what they do is raise questions and issues about failures and cheats to a higher level of consciousness in the public and world view. Hopefully, the cooler heads will prevail and make the right decisions to solve these problems. No good decision ever came out of heated anger.
Robert in San Francisco
Much like the civil rights movement of the 60s these protesters in Iran will prevail. It's not about an election, its about the concept of democracy and equal rights. I remember my grandfather talking about how they never thought the system in the US would change for Blacks and I so wish he could have lived to see President Obama.
Hope springs eternal and if the will of the Iranian people is to be free they will not let any type of fear stand in there way.
Hi Jack: A few month ago all leaders from all religous denominations came together including the Pope at what I would call a Religous Summit.
Since we don't want to see one President of a country to meddle
in another country's election, why can't the Pope speak out for the sake of humanity? Doesn't this brutality remind them of the crusifiction.
No! Those with the guns always win.
Lloyd
Great Falls Montana
If the Western World had not thrown off the shackles of "Kings and Royalty", we would never have come to this time in history, when the average and ordinary citizen can live any kind of life he/she wants to live.
The fact that this country changed its political direction last election, has given hope to millions around the world, not just in Iran. The Iranian people are the great and mighty Persians of old. The question is not if they can prevail, but WHEN. I've always wondered why the 28 nice kids in class allow the one kid who is a bully to control everyone and ruin everything for the rest of us.???? It's much the same the world over........why do we continue to let the bullies run things?
Communications systems are highly curtailed within Iran, but it may be difficult for them to keep this up. At some point, it's going to be tough to run the economy without cell phones, Internet access and the active participation of the educated class. Iran will change in one direction or another - become very insular and repressive, or become more open and democratic. If it's the first, one result will be that Israel will bomb the crap out of them.
no way jack......and if it happens??...then we shouldve done the same thing in 2000
They need to have a focus of direction. They lack leadership and any definitive strategy. They are determined and they seem to harbour that energy which is essential for revolution, but without means and the rest of the worlds full support...and I mean militarily, they are pawns of the furtherment of any political ideological demagogue making a grab for power. I question the sincerity of a government whom has oppressed its people through out its history; "they're not going to get religion overnight." Remember until you purge the system of these autocrats and hegemons these perfidious individuals whom claim to run this country will just continue to exploit the people as they have for so many years prior to this schism, unless there is a Middle eastern tri-umarative that can, collectively map out a course for safety and security... but who can trust anyone over there?
The situation will and has become increasingly degenerative and is rife with the potential for calamity, The ayatollah seems not to know how weak and feeble he projects.
The truth of the matter is if they massacre those poor brave women and men... well, the whole world will either become cowards or we will embark upon a era that will surely hasten all that has been prophesied.
I say go for it! The people are always worth the risk.
Enjoy!
No they can't, and they can't in the U.S. either.
I think it may take some time, maybe even a year, but hopefully the protestors will keep the pressure up – more lives unfortunately will be lost, but in the long run, they will ultimately prevail. I believe they believe totally in their cause for democracy and free speech, and I hope they will win this fight.
They can not prevail unless there is also some kind of help from other superpowers.
Why the international community unanimously announce that they will not recognize this imposed government and pull out their embassies. this will put a good pressure on the Iranian government.
I don't know if the protesters will prevail - probably not. The more they protest, the more the ruling mullahs dig in their heels. If nothing else, these protests will lay the groundwork for a more successful revolt in the coming years.
Missy M., Phoenix, Ariz.
Jack, I have closely followed the events from Iran from social networking sites such as Facebook and I can only say that the Iranians contain such spirit and desire for freedom that there is no way they cannot in at least some way succeed. What is in motion will stay in motion, and no hard core government can stop that.
I think they can make a differance if enough people keep up an active revolt for along period of time. but it looks as though it will be bloody and brutal.