Does it matter if president publicly observes Prayer Day?
FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
President Obama broke with yet another Bush White House tradition today by not holding a public ceremony to recognize the National Day of Prayer. During the Bush administration, the White House hosted an interfaith service in the East Room every year - inviting Protestant, Catholic and Jewish leaders.
Bush's father, along with President Reagan, also marked the day with a White House ceremony. But this White House says: "Prayer is something that the president does everyday," adding that Mr. Obama would sign a proclamation to recognize the day.
They wouldn't comment on whether Bush's ceremonies were politicized, but said that President Obama "understands, in his own life and in his family's life, the role that prayer plays."
Meanwhile both Christian conservatives and atheists are criticizing the president's decision. The National Day of Prayer Task Force says it's disappointed in the toned-down observance: "At this time in our country's history, we would hope our President would recognize more fully the importance of prayer."
A group called American Atheists wishes the president would take it one step further and ignore the day altogether. They say it's not the president's job to tell people to pray; and the separation of church and state should mean just that.
Here’s my question to you: How much does it matter whether the president publicly observes the National Day of Prayer?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Jack from Boynton Beach, Florida writes:
This is more proof of President Obama's success in leading our country. The Christian conservatives and the atheists are both fringe groups that he has displeased. I hope he continues to upset people who have nothing better to do or think about other than these non-issues. When will we Americans wise up to the very real problems we face and ignore these distractions?
Layla writes:
I'm not buying his "prayer is an everyday thing" excuse. He is clearly trying to slowly take Christ out of everything. I bet he'll soon have "In God We Trust" taken off of money. Lord, help and bless our country.
Al from Lawrence, Kansas writes:
During the campaign, Obama was criticized about his pastor. At his inauguration, Obama was criticized over who gave the prayers. If he had a public ceremony, you can be sure that he would be criticized over who was invited. This is a no-win situation. It seems that, when it comes to prayer, you can't please everyone. Prayer is private and should remain so.
Kevin from Madison, Alabama writes:
Jack, I think the president is worried that he will anger his liberal buddies. This country was founded on the Judeo-Christian ethic. All great societies throughout history started down the path to ruin when they turned their back on their morality. I believe we are heading down this path. Each day we blur the lines of what is right and wrong!
Peter writes:
No, it does not matter. In fact, it is refreshing to see a president who does not parade his faith for political purposes. Keeping it low key is a good thing.
Nicole writes:
Jack, no, I don't think public displays of religion are necessary or even advised for public officials. Religion is and should be a private matter. As long as the president does what he's supposed to do, I don't care if he holds voodoo rituals in his basement.
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No. No. No. In fact he is more in line with Christian teachings if h e does not pray in public. Jesus said, go into your clcoset and pray in secret. Dont be like the Pharisees who pray in public. They have their reward. But if you pray in secret, God will reward you openly.
William C Archer
San Antonio TX
It would matter to a great degree to me if on this day he included me in his prayer but other than that, it makes no difference to me.
How much does it matter whether the president publicly observes the National Day of Prayer?
The only thing that matters is that America remain a secular society, a seemingly daunting task given its staunchly puritanical roots...actually a public observance of a Natl Day of Prayer is tantamount to a public observance of a National Day of Otherworldliness or worse...one hopes Obama will not appoint a cleric to the USSC, a possibility that can not be ruled out...unfortunately on the issue of religion there seems to be emerging a side to Obama that is very troubling indeed...
Not one bit.
There's a national day of prayer???
National prayer day is EVERY DAY and the american people should stop trying to "nik pik" every little thing this President does or doesn't do! It is frustrating, since they didn't scrutinize Bush this way at all...
Jack,
You just said that President Qbama prays every day you forgot to say its five times
No it does not matter. In fact, it is refreshing to see a President who does not parade their faith for political purposes. Keeping it low key is a good thing. I salute Prez. Obama.
It absolutely matters, Jack!
Church & State should remain as separate as gasoline and an open flame.
Most of our issues would be easier solved if treated with LOGIC and science instead of religion.
There should be NO national day of prayer EVER recognized in this country.
Dave
Simply put religious belief are private affairs and not the business of the state. I hope we re institute the separation of church and state as a matter of policy.
Absolutely the President should NOT advocate the myth of prayer.
If he wants to pray, can't stop him, but for him to advocate a religious practice goes against what EVERY Founding Father wanted.
I think the Presidents response was correct. I believe the President prays every day for guidance in these troubled times.
Kudos to President Obama on his ability to keep church and state separate.
Its important to keep a separation of church and state! Can't be letting the government fall to religious meandering.
Normal Americans could care less whether or not Obama recognizes National Prayer Day. An individual's relationship with God is just that – individual and private. There's no need to spin this into a positive or a negative, it's just another unconstitutional use of taxpayer dollars either way.
Hi Jack,
I applaud Obama's decision to no longer have a public day of prayer. It has never been a good thing to mix government with religion. If you need some examples of how religion and government mix just look at the Taliban, Iran, and a number of other countries that put religion at a powerful level in their governments.
We don't need an American Taliban.
Dicky Neely
Corpus Christi, Tx.
I'm sorry, but what happened to separation of church and state? The federal government is not supposed to be involved in any aspects of religion, period (this was a major problem and concern during the bush administration).
It doesn't matter Jack. I don't have a problem with it.. I'm just speaking for me however.
the president should ot celebrate a religion out in the open that not every american celerates!!!
It absolutley should NOT matter what empahsis the president puts on prayer. That is a personal choice and should have nothing to do with politics.
I don't think that any president should observe the National Day of Prayer publicly. When he is in the public eye he has to remember the laws about seperation of church and state. I could care less what he does in his spare time. But while he is in the public eye he really has not choice but to follow the laws in our consitution seperating church and state.
Maving the POTUS do more to observe a "day of prayer" is about as important as sacrificing a goat.
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!!
what happened to that?
who cares ? The prez has more im,portant issue to del with
I completely agree with the American Atheists, it isn't the president's job to tell people to pray. If people choose to be religious I would imagine that they don't need to be reminded. And for those of us who actually believe in the separation of church and state, a "National Day of Prayer" (specifically the word national) seems a little obnoxious.
Prayer is an integral part of many religions. Many today would say that our nation is in need of more prayer than ever before! At the very least we're suffering a great economic downturn, and possibly a moral slide into a society driven by selfishness. By not speaking to this issue, President Obama effectively pandered to his liberal base, many of whom disliked the groups and ideologies associated with the National Day of Prayer. It's OK if he doesn't like their ideas, but he could still have called the nation to the greater purpose of seeking divine help at such a time as this. He did not, and that makes him either a coward or too simple – neither of which we need at this time.
We are a nation that is unenlightened because of religion. I do believe that. I think religion stops people from thinking. I think it justified crazies.
The president has a right to observe his own religious beliefs publicly or otherwise. I am not a religious person but I don't mind if he chooses to support a day which encourages hope. Church and state should be separate, but that doesn't mean we have to ignore the existence of personal belief altogether.
I do not think it matters that President Obama does not have a public appearance on Prayer Day. Part of what makes our county great is the fact that prayer can be and should be private. Does it really help him run the country any better to have a public appearance of prayer?
It does not matter at all!
It doesn't matter. Conservatives have managed to make religion a huge part of our government. It seems they have forgotten that our country was founded on freedom of religion... not freedom of one religion. I myself am a Christian, but it is tiring to hear that conservatives make a big deal out of not having their religion represented (while no other one is either).
No Cafferty it doesn't matter.
Why do we need to have our public officials declare a day of prayer anyways? Where is the seperation of Church and State.
Yes it matters.
Separation of church and state should start at the very top.There should no room in any of our public offices for any religious affiliations Period.
The answer is five words long and the concept is in the Constitution–separation of church and state.
One thing that's never going to happen in this country is the election of an Atheist president. So he's got to fake it. Having the "leader of the free world" believe in talking snakes is a little bit ridiculous (not only because of the irony that religion has been used as the rationale for any number of terrible actions involving the limiting of freedoms), but that's America for you, I suppose.
just what god would he pray to? i think it's all a cult
It matters not at all; prayer, spirituality, and faith, are intensely private and personal, and should remain so in my opinion. Allow the man the privacy of his belief
Religion is a personal matter and from what I understand the United States is not, nor will ever be a Theocracy. I personally have no issue with a Prayer Day, but it should not be endorsed by a public official, nor should it be endorsed in any way by the United States Government in any form doing so would be endorsing a particular religion which goes against our constitution.
I don't see a need for prayer day, one should pray everyday or when you can. It depends on your beliefs why do we need to mix religion and politics.
Prayer, religion, and faith – or lack of it – is a personal matter, no matter one's status in society. Keep thy faith to thyself – 'Nuff said!
He's our President, not our High Priest. I don't care one way or another. I'm not saying the Bushes aren't sincerely religious, but their public prayer events were political pandering nonetheless. I wasn't that interested in the Day of Prayer stuff before when it was being pumped up and I'm not interested now that it's being tamped down. I pray, but I don't do it on a national day, week, month or year. I do it when I need to do it and want to do it. That's when it's good.
Jack,
Does separation of CHURCH and STATE mean anything. It did to our founding fathers and I believe Obama realizes this. Besides I would rather him fixing the economy, pulling our men out of Iraq, dealing with the swine flu problem, Afghanistan. You get the idea.
Finally, a President that realizes prayer is between you and the Lord.
To me it doesn't matter at all– I'm not a religious person, and would actually prefer separation of church and state. Unfortunately, in the country we live in, it's kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. I think President Obama took the right approach, but there will always be critics on both sides. You can't please everyone, and sometimes when you take a more moderate approach, you can't please anyone!
It doesn't matter if the President of the United States recognizes National Prayer Day (by the way WHAT IS THAT ANYWAY? WHO STARTED IT? WHEN DID IT BEGIN?)! Many Americans over the past decades have begun all types of holiday's, but no one from any 'official body' has ever produced an official list of mandatory holiday's. Until that happens (and I pray it comes from the President's office; pun intended) Barak Obama should not be held accountable if he decides to skip a few 'national holiday's.'
Prayer day itself is not that big an issue. The bigger concern is that the President does not seem to share the values of many of his countrymen.
Did he skip observances in order to curry favor with the Islamic world? Remember he told the Turks that we are not a Christian nation even though our founding is based upon the Judeo-Christian ethic and that Christians represent the largest religious group in the country by a wide margin. Apparently it's all right for many nations to be unabashedly Islamic and to discriminate against Christians but the President cannot acknowledge our heritage.
No, it doesn't matter if the president publicly observes Prayer Day. Why should it? Do the people espousing a public declaration or observance really think that people who pray need to be honored for praying or that people who don't pray will start because of a public observation? Get real!
I think it is very important that he not publicly observe prayer day. Prayer is something that should first of all be personal between the person and who or whatever they believe. We shouldnt need the President to tell or show us he is praying or tell us when we should. If you are unsure about when to pray then you should consult your religious leader and not the government.
I believe that the president was correct. Prayer is important and personal. I do not think that the seat of government should model any behavior concerning prayer.We have a right to privacy in religious observances and government should do nothing other than assuring that the right is protected,
Jack,
It should not matter at all. Please remember, "the separation between church and state". Frankly, that is one of the primary elements that is sinking the Republican Party.
Does it matter whether President Obama publicly observes the National Day of Prayer?
It matters about the same as whether there should be a National Day of UFO recognition!
Atheists of the World Unite!
Jesus recommended that we go into a closet to say our prayers, and to not make a public spectacle of Religion. Of course he was hated by the religious leaders of His day for not observing the Sabbath, for telling folks that God's #1 Commandment was to love God and ALL other people as much as we love ourselves – no conditions. Unfortunately, we have a tendency to make religion into a RELIGION!
I believe that it DOES matter whether or not Pres. Obama publicly observes the National Day of Prayer.
I however side with the atheists in saying that he should NOT observe the day. Religion has no place in government.
Let's ask the question a different way. If President Obama were a Muslim or a Hindu, would they want him to celebrate his day of prayer publicly in the White House? I hope so, but doubt it.
Puerto Vallarta, Mexico
Jack,
It matters only to those who mix religion with politics. That would be...registered, card carrying GOP members who are religious right wing extremists. You know the type I'm referreng to here. It is the fake Christian-Taliban type Ann Coulters out there.
HD in Phoenix, AZ
It will matter not one tiny bit if President Obama ignores prayer day. He is running the country, not a church.
Jack.... Why is this an issue? It must be a slow news day. I love that there is a "Task Force" on both sides of the coin for this though. Now if we can just channel there energy into something positive... maybe if we made giant hamster wheels we can generate enough green energy to power our country.
Of course it doesn't matter. The only ones that will cry about it are the republicans and god squaders. But then they cry about every single thing Obama does.
Doesn't bother me as long as we don't recognize Black history month, Hispanis history month, white history month, etc, etc, etc. Let's just don't recognize anything...........period!
I am so happy to see that this president has the good sense to use his time more effectively than the last. One pair of hands put to action accomplish more than a million clasped in prayer!
Jamie
Vancouver, BC
Those that critize whether he observe Prayer Day are the ones that probably didn't vote for President Obama anyway. He's doomed if he did and doomed if he don't. President is not going to let the other side call any shots. Everything he does seem to bring out the wolves looking for blood.
No, it does not matter. You better be praying for yourself. The president prays everyday and has more important things to do than be politically correct. Isn't it enough that he acknowledges that prayer is important? Grow up!
Yes, I think it does matter. There are a lot of things we need to pray for. Not just in this country but all over the world. This should be on of the most important day in the calender.If people do not want to pray that day, then they don't have to. As for me I will be praying with most of the world. I will pray if it pray day or not. People should pray every-day. God Bless.
Obama has changed everything else, so why not change his view of a day of prayer. LIsten up, America, this man is heading us toward total socialism. Why can't Obama lovers see this by now? God bless America!!!!
Hey Jack, leaders have to lead. That's what they do, even if it's a National Day of Prayer. They set the pace for the rest of us.
The way things are today, praying cannot hurt. Ask an atheist when they get into some serious trouble. I bet they are secretly covering all their bases in some closet somewhere.
The President should not publicly observe the National Day of Prayer. There should not be a National Day of Prayer in the first place! It boggles my mind that here we are in the 21st century and we are still hanging on to ignorant superstition!
Certainly the president should observe the day as he wishes in private. Prayer is a part of religions and our founders wanted to keep state and religion seperate. Surely they saw what unpleasant and deadly deeds are done in the name of religion.
Religions should be part of one's private life, not in government as it completly disregards what individual citizens believe.
Carol Benoit
It is time that all Americans realize that prayer may be important to a number of us, but we should not look to our leader, the President of the United States, to provide spiritual guidance. His job is simply to provide for all of us, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus and athiests. Let us stop criticizing our leaders for their personal beliefs and simply use our own beliefs to guide our lives and let our leaders lead!
No it really does not matter, beacuse as the president said he prays everyday as many americans do but at the same time there are alot that dont and they need the same respect.
This is one time I disagree with President Obama. It may not be his job to tell the people to pray but it is his job togive good examples. We should always pray but today more than ever.
God help America....because of Obama's failure to obsrve the importance of this day....makes it even MORE necessary for us to be on our knees all day praying for our leaders!!! John 14:14--what you ask in my name, I will do!!! God Bless America and God Help America!!!
Jack,
As long as our national leader is leading the nation with wisdom and honesty, I really don't care whether he or if there would be a she is a religious person – it;'s his right of Freedom of Religion.
Having said that, I do want to hear all thost stupid right wings have to say about this after Iraq Invasion has killed over millions of Iraqis and the decision was based on Bush's consicous and done within his religious comfort.
Susan
Plano, TX
I realize at a time like this prayer can only help. But, let us not forget that the President has other things to do, then tell everyone to Pray. If you want to Pray, get on your own hands and knees and say a Prayer. And not just for today, everyday!!!
This is getting to be like Mother's Day!! I am not a Mother just on May 10, but everyday of the year and for the rest of my life. Celebrate me everyday, not just this coming Sunday.
The President should have no obligation to recognize such a day. It is acceptable for him to observe it privately, and the people may do so on their own if so desired. Separation of church and state is necessary is all instances.
(Katie, La Crosse, WI)
What else would you expect from the Anti-Christ....
This country was founded on the freedom of religion. Not to mention we have a separation of Church and State. If a President wants to or dosn't want to support a religion that is his personal prerogative.
Whether the president overtly observes a national day of prayer is immaterial. Since he claims to be a Christian, what does matter is the extent to which he uses Christian principles to guide the decisions he makes as President of the United States. Thus far, I have not been impressed.
No, it absolutely does not. Why should it matter if the President follows this "tradition" or not? Will the war end any earlier? Will the economy MIRACULOUSLY fix itself? Will the world come to understand that if we spent time one day a year praying, all of the "bad things" will go away? NO!
Come on people.....wake up and lets think about more important things.
The President is doing the right thing by signing the proclamation instead of having a big gathering of Christian and Jewish leaders. Unless he involves all faiths in his guest list he really should just quietly do what he normally does with his family.
To the atheists... if you don't want to pray, then don't, leave the rest of us alone since we are not forcing you to endure mandatory gatherings, you can still choose not to pay any attention whatsoever to what someone calls the day
Prayer is a intensely personal response to God and what He means to each person. The God that I have come to love & serve is great and varied in how He will connect with each person.
I do not believe the President needs to put on a public show of his faith. It is between him and his Creator. America is a melting pot whose people come from varying walks of faith. Why trumpet one way over another?
Do the conservative religious folks really think God is going to hear them or President Obama any louder because all network channels broadcasting it or because there's a special day assigned for prayer?
Jack, lets let President Obama lead our country out of this mess we are in. Leave his religion out of it. I say to president Obama "you lead I will pray.
How many people have to die before we shed this barbaric notion of religious domination?President Obama is doing the right thing by observing the constitutional mandate of separation of Church and State. Something our previous president chose to ignore.
I applaud President Obama for his decision
I think the stance the President is taking is the correct one. Signing a proclamation is fine. It really does not matter what he does, he will offend some individuals and certain groups. As the old saying states"Damned if you do and Damned if you don't.
No. I've been praying for the separation of church and State.
There is a National Prayer Day? That is how important this issue is, that i am sure the majority of people were not even aware of this day till it was mentioned on your news report. Prayer is something people do in private, and if th President does not want to publicly observe then he should not have to. I am sure the President has more importnat things to do with his time.
The president makes 400K a year which is 208 dollars/hour for a 40 hour work week. If he wants to pray that is his choice but please don't waste another 100 dollars by doing it on the clock.
A day for prayer, otherwise a good idea, isn't really the place of the federal government nor the president. As a religious person, I both request and hope that the president will push for less overt observance in the white house.
Practically, not at all. Electorally, well, let's just say you better get your butt to church.
If the state is truly separated from church, here should be no references to a god on or money. Unfortunately, if you want to be president of the United States, you need to believe in a god.
No one should tell the President to have a prayer day. Each person is entitled to his/her own beliefs and no prayer day should be mandated. We got more to worry about anyway than proclaiming a national prayer day; things like the economy, jobs, medical issues should be addressed. Hey lets have National economy day instead and try to save some money.
The President should ignore National Prayer Day. Prayer does nothing except make people feel good, whether their prayer has any effect or not. It doesn't, y'know. Any correlation between a "prayer" and the ultimate outcome is just pure coincidence.
People should rely on reason, not superstition.
Andy from Toronto, ON
The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion. ~ George Washington
Our forefathers made it perfectly clear that religion had no place in government, so that answers that.
A proclamation is sufficient. We know what a pinnacle of Christianity George Bush and his administration was. Judge not lest ye be judged except for the Axis of Evil and detainees. Don’t bear false witness unless it’s to lie us into a fake war or claim torture isn’t torture. Do unto others by wiretapping their phones and emails. Thou shall not steal with no-bid contracts. There is nothing more hypocritical then a Christian that has no clue of what the word really means. Let’s all just observe Prayer Day in our own way, or not.
No question we need separation of church and state. Freedom of Religion for everyone requires a government free of Religion. I pray we skip prayer day and leave that to our places of worship.
Prayer is a matter that is ultimately left up to the individual to place importance on. President Obama is respecting the choice that we all make with regard to prayer by not publicly observing this holiday. We all use prayer in our own way, but it is still up to each of us to go out and do something to make the changes we want to see.
Jack, under the Bush Administration Our country was thrown in a regression of thought of sorts. An 8 year "dark age" for America in terms of science (and privacy). There is a reason we have a sepertation of church and state, as well as freedom of religion. However, many "Christians" do not allow many of us who do not believe in a higher power freedom from it.
It is just further evidence of the christian-rights push to claim that "our" country is christian. It is not! I don't think the President should be acknowledging a national day of prayer. He as well as all the other christians should keep their prays and belief systems out of "OUR" government.
no there is too much religous invovement in gov. now. religion should be for the indivgual and not forced on everyone.
Absolutely, our President, himself a lawyer and professor of Constittutional law, should set the correct example initiated by the founding fathers of the United States of America by supporting the separation of church and state. As President, his actions represent all of us, and that means the atheists and polytheists as well as the agnostics and monotheists. Let's keep prayer in our religious institutions and the homes of those who chose religion, and keep it out of government. Or, would you rather your taxes pay our government to give equal time and support to every single religion that exists and is represented in the United States? Let's not spend those dollars as tax dollars. Let's trim religion out of government, so each citizen can spend those particular dollars wherever she/he wishes.
Hi Jack,
This is a Christian Nation and it is very important for its leader to support the National Day of Prayer. He is not establishing a religion so the seperation of church and state is not an issue. It is important to belive in something beyond us.
Phil
Why should it matter, Jack? The American people elected a President, not a Pope.
I think it is very important for the President to have a special event for the National Day of Prayer. This nation was founded on faith in God and we as a nation need prayer more than ever. I hope Pres. Obama does pray everyday. Only God can turn this nation around. I thank God that our hope is in Him and not man
Pres. Obama should recognize Prayer Day, because too many people will make a big deal out of it if he doesn't. Being agnostic, I understand the unreasonable expectations of the too religious. Our freedoms always come up short when compared against their "knowledge". call me "pip"
Absolutely not. The President is obligated to separate church and state. That doesn't prevent people from practicing their beliefs privately or in their churches or among like-minded groups.
If this were truly a country where church and state were separated, it wouldn't matter at all. But, hypocrites that we are, it matters a lot. Too many people will consider Obama to be "anti-religion" by not observing National Prayer Day. I think he's simply respecting the separation concept in our Constitution.
It is a step in the right direction but does not go far enough in respect for the separation between church and state.
American Atheists are correct. The President should not be signing off on the prayer declaration. We are not a christian nation. We just happen to have mostly christians. Can't the churches do their own declaration by doing their own commercials?
This is yet another example of Obama's campaign words not matching his actions. Anyone else see a pattern here?
I think is important- am somewhat disappointed. I think the national observance should be a reminder that we are a nation founded on Jidea-Christian laws.
Hey Jack...I can understand his position on "separation of church and state" after all George used religion to gain power and look where that got us. But, and this is the kicker. There surely as I write this; is a God. And I think that if President Obama experienced something so profound that it gave no question to the fact that there is a God and Jesus Christ, then I would think he would attend prayer day. I had such a moment. It has changed my life. President Obama is going to experience "a moment" and it too will change his life. The challenges he faces will test his faith in God and I will tell you, he will never miss another "Prayer Day".
I thought we had a clear seperation of church and state.... Although alot of us believe in GOD, whether it's the Christian< Jewish, Muslim GOD, I don't think it's right for these fanatical religious groups force us to follow in their beliefs... It is an American right to pray, not a law ..Sometimes I think some of our religious groups are more fanatical then the Islam fanatics we are fighting
I'm pleased with Obama's decision. George Bush simply made me angry with his hypocritical religious remarks.
No. We didn't hire him to be our religious leader.
Prayer is something personal, and private. Our President should avoid the sort of pontificatory public, purely political personal prayer promotion as practiced by Bush.
Jack....I have to say I'm amazed that you would ask. Of course it matters!! As the most public figure in the United States at this moment, he needs to show leadership and actually ask the country to pray also.
We've never needed it more. Even if you don't believe....what could it hurt.
Jack –
The founders of our country wrote the Establishment Clause to ensure that things like a National Day of Prayer do not happen. We should be proud that as Americans, we are free to pray however we want. But we should be equally proud that our government is supposed to stay out of religious issues, which are often so divisive and messy.
-Max B. from Burlington, VT
Many are more concerned with "appearing" christian than actully practicing what is written in their Bible. I suggest those who scream the loudest are the bigger hypocrites and should read Matthew 6 verses 5-6, which says:
Mat 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mat 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Jack, it doesn't matter unless you are trying to make it public. But if you are only trying to impress GOD then it is a private matter. It matters to GOD only.
This country was founded upon Judaeo Christian principles, that is a historical fact! All other religions as well as non-religious believers should thank God that it was! If it wasn't, they would not be allowed to believe and or practice as they do or do not choose.
The President should not give up his own religious belief's just because he is the president, he will always be in the public eye so when do you think he can worship as a private citizen? being President should not mean giving up his own rights to worship, damn be the nay sayers in this respect, pray all you want President Obama we can use all the help we can get.
Yes it matters! This country was founded on the belief in God and those who fought so hard for our freedom believed in prayer and in Christ.
Jack,
I am a pastor who has ignored the National Day of Prayer for a long time. I see it as nothing more than an excuse for right-wing Christians to get together and bash everyone who disagrees with them. This year the local event at our City Hall was cancelled due to lack of interest. Americans are getting smarter about religion and politics, and I am glad that we finally have a President who is beyond that kind of divisiveness.
John in Florida
It dosn't matter at all. We elected him to run the government, not to pontificate about private matters, and an individual's relationship or non-relationship with "the God of his choice", to paraphrase Kinky Friedman, is about as private as it gets. Mixing religion and politics makes fanatics fly airplanes into buildings. Why can't people just mind their own damn business?
Susan
Tuscaloosa, AL
When President Obama was candidate Obama trying to convince evangelicals and the American public that hee was not a Muslim referred to "my Lord and saviour Jesus Christ". Now that he has the job he's become a "backslider".
It doesn't matter at all. The president has taken a step in the right direction, but I hope he goes further in years to come. Separation of church and state means that we should not be acknowledging religion/prayer in any public forum, whatsoever, be it on the national, state, or local level. Personally, I am convinced that prayer is supernatural nonsense, and I am dismayed that any person as intelligent as President Obama buys into it. We all need to grow up and become rational as regards prayer and religion.
I don't think it matters if the nation has a national day of prayer considering church and state is said to be seperate religous groups wants the state to observe days like this but, make them pay taxes on their profits and they go haywire. I don't to be reminded to pray and give thanks but, I should do it myself on my own time.
Jack,
Obama's decision not to participate was obviously made after consideration of what message his decision would send. Like all political decisions this decision has consequences and also sends a message. For a guy who clearly loves to be on TV at least once or twice a day since taking office and spends more time in front of a camera than most movie stars or news anchors I find it hard to believe that he would turn down one more opportunity to stroke his huge ego on television.
No, I don't think it is necessary to make a big deal out of this like the Bush administration (mainly to get votes in my opinion).
I suggest everyone just offer their own prayer for our country.
It does matter, he is a representative of all Americans, not just the religious ones. I'd rather have him celebrate a national day of thought where they get together and think about things, rather than asking an imaginary man for the answers!
While the president is free to be religious in his private life, he shouldn't be promoting any sort of faith in his public life as part of his duties. There is a separation of church and state for a reason. Not everyone agrees on how to pray or even whether we should pray. The founding fathers were right to keep religion out of our founding documents, and we should keep religion out of the public sphere.
Our current president prays five times a day towards the east towards Mecca.
Anyway it's prayer, so I guess it counts.
It doesn't matter at all. Since when do we need a national day of prayer? Most people wake up and pray, and then pray before they go to bed. If your Muslim you would pray five times a day.
The focus should not be put on praying, but how we live our lives. If we live justly, if we don' torture, if we don't attack poor defenseless people; then we are living just lives. This is what we are judged on not how much we pray.
I for one, am tired of making religion a political talking point. We are a country that holds that religion is a matter of choice and not declaration.
Prayer is a religious practice and should not be underwritten by any representative of the government. It is neither necessary nor appropriate in a country of choice.
The separation of church & state should be respected FIRST before religion itself. We use religion as a trump card to validate so many evil acts & ideas, it's about time we continue with the pursuit of common knowledge than the continuation of an archaic tradition (granted this tradition itself is only 8 years old.)
What we really need is a freethinkers holiday, atheists like myself are considered the bottom of the barrel in our society. Now Obama, that is a minority!!
Ben.
Lexington, KY
as long as it doesnt cost me any money or a bailout i dont care what he doe's
I don't think that the president should observe the national day of prayer at all – we should truly try to separate religion from STATE – we only have a pretense of separation in our country which is full of religiousity. My answer is a resounding NO !!!! Not only no presidential observance – but no National Day of Prayer.
With the talk of budget cuts during this recession, I think that the White House should cut back on unnecessary events such as these "Prayer Day" activities. If the Obama's feel prayer is important than they will pray on their own, we don't need to spend thousands of dollars to publicize it.
It matters not at all whether the President publicly observes the National Day of Prayer. Like every American he has the FREEDOM to practice religion as HE chooses not as dictated by some intolerant religious tyrant.
I applaud the President for owning his Christianity without imposing it on the whole nation. As an interfaith hospice chaplain, I can imagine how many people feel left out whenever national ceremonies only include Christian prayers/comments. KLL, Las Cruces NM
Absolutely not! Prayer should be a private matter for those who choose to indulge ... or not.
Matthew 6:5-6
“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you."
A prayer is a conversation between God and the person praying to Him. One should not pray publicly just to be seen, which is exactly what the National Day of Prayer really is. If someone wants to pray with me I will be glad to do it, but I will not put on a public display because of some made up holiday.
I think that us, every day folks, are doing enough praying to satisfy the requirements of any group. We are praying for the economy to stop collapsing, we are praying for swine flu to calm down, for Pakistan's government to be able to safeguard its nukes, for the gunman at Wesleyan to be caught...isn't that a lot of praying? Let the president worry about actual strategies on how to solve the above issues. We will take care of the praying.
well Jack,
I am an atheist because it works for me, not unlike the way in which religion works for theists. Prayer itself, is a deeply personal thing. It means nothing to people like me, and everything to others. I think President Obama should celebrate this day any way he chooses to. It's not really anyone's business but his. The squabbling that has ensued from both factions, is an attempt to transform personal belief into political influence, and it is SICKENING!
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I know alot of people who like to be seen in the front pew but only go to church to be seen and not to pray. I agree with Obama's decision.
Hi Jack;
Nope, he's not the Pope. What part of separation of Church and State do they not understand. He's one they may: "when praying find a private quiet space"
In no way is the public sector, private. I think with all the hooplah over the last 8 years, it's time they put prayer where it belongs. Between God and the President.
He's showing an excellent example, besides, he's damn if he does or doesn't.
It dosen't matter, he prays in private, like me and like jesus. If you want to pray with people, go to Church. He is a Christian, but he will be critizised, no matter what. The right wing will say, he is a muslim, and so on. It dosent matter at all. He has so much on his plate, i am sure he looks to Jesus for guidance. Amen to that
Enough already. Read the last twenty words of Article VI of the U.S. Constitution.
"...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
The President is the C.E.O. of the federal government, Not a preist-king.
I'm not sure if Obama's observance of the national day of prayer will make a significant difference.
It is however important to participate in a tradition that speaks strength to the people in America. The National Day of Prayer signifies courage, hope and strength. Someone like Rihanna got a tattoo of a gun to signify protection, we as Americans hold the event to encourage each other especially at a time the economy is in disarray.
No, it should not matter if the President publicly observes any day that is associated with a religious group or philosophy. He is the head of the Executive Branch of the government and nothing more. Separation of Church and State should always be upheld in government, especially as America is increasingly becoming more of a non-religious nation.
If anything, there should be a Freedom of Religion/Spirituality day, which is one of the things that makes this country truly great. Having a "Prayer Day" is just plain ridiculous and trying to force it on the US Government is absolutely ludicrous.
Folks need to learn to live and let live. You can't change the world, you can only change yourself.
I applaud President Obama's refusal to take the bait on this non-issue. Let's all say a prayer that we can learn to stay focused on how we as individuals can respond compassionately to the issues that we see around us every day, like homelessness, hunger, unemployment, and not on creating a deliberately divisive issue like this. Jesus would NOT have approved!
Besides, why make a National Day of Prayer holiday when we as Christians should be praying everyday...
Yes.
America's Founding fathers honored God publicly. Past presidents followed after their footsteps. President Obama is at a time in history when we need God more than ever. The least he can do for us is encourage us to pray. It does not hurt.
No, it doesn't matter because of this:
Separation of church and state is a political and legal doctrine that government and religious institutions are to be kept separate and independent from each other.
As usual, Obama struck just the right tone. Both extremes don't like it, but the vast majority of the center is quite happy. How do you acknowledge the value of prayer to the majority of Americans without government interference in the beliefs of many minorities. This matters to many people, but the only people who don't like it are those that want to force their beliefs on others.
Jim, Craig, CO
It doesn't matter at all, Jack. The separation of church and state should yield an elimination of the day altogether. Our Constitution gurantees freedom of religion, and we are protected from persecution for our beliefs, including the lack of belief in prayer. State sponsored, encouraged or forced religious events or editcs have no place in American society.
Marie
Augusta, GA
Separation of church and state plus separation of public and private work. Why were these public prayer meetings ever begun? And why are these guys getting paid a government salary to go to prayer meetings, when they can pray at home, at church, in their car.
Do the workers not attending prayer meetings get the day off with pay?
I understand that Barak Obama has declined to attend the National Day of Prayer breakfast that his predecessor used to attend and was permitted to speak at. The Catholic Bishop who co-ordinates the event was not going to permit Obama to speak because the president opposes Catholic dogma on abortion, stem cells, etc. George Bush, the torturer who set up secret prisons around the world, kidnapped people, held them without charges and had them tortured was allowed to speak last year about his administration's anti-choice agenda. I can see where Bush's views might appear to be more closely aligned with christian doctrine and historical practice.
I think the President is way off base on this one. I always read the President's proclamation at our Village ceremony for the Nation Day of Prayer. This time no proclamation to read. People were asking,"where is the President's proclamation"? Doesn't put him in good standing for a heavy Democrat town of Bellaire, OHIO
The most holy prayers are prayed in quiet, often solitary moments of silence, away from all those who want to make of prayer an empty ritual and public display. God, or whatever one believes is worth speaking to, is with us and in us. God is God. We honor the sacred most when we make our acts in secret, not on a public stage.
I believe in a higher power, but I have to agree with the Athiests on this one. Separation of church and state should mean just that. I also believe the republicans need to evaluate this issue as well. That is partially what is wrong with their party at the moment. Religion is how a person governs themselves, and should not be the base for running the country. I am sure President Obama and his family turn to their beliefs on their own personal level not as a public event.
I believe in an alternate religion (not Islam) and I have a problem with those who think it is necessary to have a public day of prayer. Why would anyone need this? Your connection with whatever God, Gods or Goddesses is private and why would you want, or need, to have it recognized in public?
it does matter bc president has an obligation to obey the constitution. our founding fathers, most of whom were atheists, strongly believed in the seperation of church and state. the united states was not founded as a christian nation and therefore religion has no proper place in politics, even though, sadly, it is the biggest influence on campaigns. ignoring a "prayer day" would be a positive step forward and away from the disgusting pressure that religion has used to hold back this nation
Why do people worry about such trivial things? When he was elected, President Obama made it very clear that his administration wasn't about to follow old traditions or simply settle for the status quo. The fact that there exists such a group called "The National Day of Prayer Task Force", seems almost comical to me. Let the President focus on more important issues, like convincing the Rev. Sharpton to add Newt Gingrich to his Facebook friend's list.
Ryan from Toronto
In a country founded on the principle of separation of church and state, it is absolutely ludicrous that a "national day of prayer" even exists. This is just another back door effort by Christian fundamentalists to force their views upon the rest of us.
Thank you, President Obama for toning down a day of prayer. Those of us who pray do not need our government to tell us when to pray. I hope you continue to lead toward a separation of church and state as required in the Consitution.
And the legislators should follow your lead and not begin sessions with a prayer. Each individual legislator can pray silently if they wish and if the Chaplains are paid, that is another budget item that can go away.
We've cast Muslims and Arabs in a bad light, but they pray five times a day, EVERY DAY. In America, you either practice religion or you don't, with many people here strongly steeped in their faith, such as the Amish.
How about a national Common Sense Day instead, where everyone can utilize this concept for at least one day out of the year?
Prayer is an "individual" affirmation of intimate communion with the Spirit in the language of "one's" owns heart. My perception is that President Obama observes the individuality of prayer and has faith in the citizens of the United States that they know prayer is not a ceremony done only at a specific time, but prayer is the way we walk and talk. Extremists, and I do not mean that word with a negative conotation, need to shift their awareness from criticism to love and focusing on how they can help advance life.
A public ceremony by the President of the United States is a good reminder for all to Stop and Pray. What is your Creator saying to you? Kind of like the Stop and Chat episode on "Curb Your Enthusiasm."
I believe today's poor moral climate as shown by the greed that has caused the economic downturn needs more prayer. People get busy and forget to take time to pray and, more importantly, listen to their consciences.
Jack, this is just another gleaming contrast of this administration and the previous, President Obama knows that religion and prayer should remain a private choice, while the administation of W, often stated out loud how religious he was, and in the same breath started an illegal war that killed, mamed and tortoured thousands.
Obama's decision to not have a ceremony on the National Day of Talking to Yourself makes me very happy.
So far, the US has been able to abolish slavery, give women the vote, and put a black man in office...maybe, one day, it'll finally ACTUALLY separate Church from State.
I can dream, can't I?
If these guys are Atheist... I don't understand why they have a problem with prayer.
Whatever happened to freedom of religion...
If Atheist have a problem with the National Day of Prayer then don't recognize it. How can they be upset with something that pose no threat to them or something they don't believe in. I don't see People of Faith complaining about celebrating Holidays or event that are not religious. This country is a country that understands the idea of balancing Church and State. Obama has every right to recognize his faith after all it is his constitutional right.
Prayer has been demonstrated to be exactly as effective as wishful thinking. Should we have a National Day of Wishful Thinking?
The government should not refer to any religion or prayer, just run the country. There are plenty of churches, temples, mosques, etc. to take care of the prayer. I become very insecure when God or prayer is mentioned when running this country. That was Bush's problem, he thought his God would show him what to do, obviously his God had better things to do. I hope Obama respects the seperation of church and state and all the millions who do not believe in a God.
Mahree
Didn't we do enough praying when Carter was in office?
Don't the scriptures admonish to make less public & more private our prayer activities? I distinctly recall something about the futility of vain public repititions and the necessity of entering your private closet to pray. Maybe the conservative Bible reads differently.
I don't think it is key. We are a country with all types of religions and those who do not belong to any religion and don't pray. Why focus on one day as Prayer day ? Each day, for those who pray, is prayer day that is all that should matter to us . We have National Day of Prayer, will we do National Day of Atheists?
The President is someone who represents all Americans – those who pray and those who don't, I don't think having an official ceremony is necessary for the White House. That's why we have separation of Church and State.
John – Massachusetts
How can a prayer for our Nation hurt? Wasn't our country founded on religious freedom. Why not ask different faiths to pray for our country and its leaders. This small minority makes so much fuss about an issue that the majority of our country holds dear. May God bless the USA and give our leaders wisdom.
I just prayed that a good lunch would appear and nothing happened. The "miraculous" thing was when I got up, prepared myself a meal, and consumed it, I was no longer hungry. Almost seems as though acting to remedy problems has a more positive effect than just hoping for positive results.
Jack, I think Obama has more important things to do than encouraging people to sit on their heals and hope. There's work to be done.
Gary in Cincinnati
It should matter about as much as prayer itself – not relavent. PROVE me wrong. To some, prayer is important, much as are other delusions that help people cope with reality. I wish elected officials would be mute on the subject of religious belief, or lack thereof, and tell anyone inquiring about it that it is personal and none of their business.
Praying for the sake of being seen doing so is Pharisitical... and even Jesus condemned that.
Jack, it means a lot. You don't need a national day of prayer to understand the importance of prayer.
Allen in Florida
Hi Jack,
In my opinion it does not matter at all. Religion has always divided Men. It has never united Men, and has only caused WARS. Look back to history and see what happened during the Crusades. We do not need it in our politics. There are people of all religions in our country. Let's respect each other by keeping our personal beliefs out of politics and each other's face.
The ongoing battle of religion in America has affected non-religious Americans for centuries. It is time that we take the separation of church and state more seriously. This country was founded on religious freedom, and that also means the freedom to not believe in any organized religion.
It is not the President's place to promote religion by signing a Prayer Day Proclamation. Doing so is divisive because, according to a recent Pew Research study, up to 16% of Americans acknowledge no religion at all. Expressions of religiosity should remain a private, not governmental, matter. Moreover, the futility of prayer has been long documented. Would millions of Jews died in concentration camps had their prayers been answered?
Jack,
it does not mean that because President does not prayer publicly on national prayer day that the Church has less influence on the State! People who think this are blinded by a mere perception given by this image!
I like this President is comfortable in his own skin about his own religion and regarding the respect towards others people religion and regarding people making the choice of no religion. After all, the President represents all people of diverse faith and no faith...maybe one day we can have a day to recognize we also acknowledge people who do not pray as our equal citizen in the expression of their freedoms, rights and responsibilities!
I think it's better that he doesn't. When we think of our country as a Christian nation, we disenfranchise too many of our citizens. We would be better to think of the U.S. as a nation that respected all human beings and treated everyone with dignity.
Mountain Home ID
When Thomas Jefferson was asked about the role of religion in Government he said that "Religion is a matter best left between a man and his God.". It appears that is how President Obama feels also.
President Obama does not have to recognize every proclaimed day by every group and he has a right to choose which ones he observes. He has proclaimed his faith to the world in countless situations. One more observance will not convince anyone of his
"In God We Trust"–says it all, on our currency and sums up how this nation was founded by our forefathers. The recognition of prayer places our country on a higher ground in a very moving way. For President Obama to slight the National Day of Prayer demonstrates his lack of connection to what our first president decided would bring the country together with respect to honoring God. If it doesn't start here, nothing else matters. In essence, Obama has flippantly chosen to throw prayer and Christianity under the bus! God help us!
Rosemarie
Vero Beach, FL
I'm all for prayer if it's sincere, but it's a private endeavor, and should not ever be used as a political ploy. At least, unlike the Bush administration, the Obama White House isn't trying to pander to the religious right. And, unlike Bush, President Obama tries to walk the talk. The separation of church and state is what's important to citizens who truly respect the Constitution, not instituting a National Day of Prayer.
Norah
Ocala, FL
The President should not officially observe National Prayer Day. It is a religous event which excludes all citizens who are not Christian. It is good to see the evangelicals losing their grip on the White House. I'm certain that the American taliban will attack President Obama for failing to aid them in their efforts to create an American theocracy.
Nat'l Day of Prayer: I am glad that Pres OBama prays everyday.–But as Our leader of One Nation under God,–In God we trust- foundations that this country is founded on, I do believe that he should publicly observe this day and even encourage us ALL to do so. Perhaps our country is in such a mess today. because it seems so many have turned away from God and thank Him for his many blessings and the privilege to be born and live in this country. Why should non-belivers always seem to have more imjpact. on what is considered "better for us all" It is time for us to stand up and be heard. . GOD BLESS AMERICA
no it does not matter everybody got their on way of celebration people grow up
Jack,
Many Americans who believe in the the power of prayer have been praying before national prayer day was every thought of. I do not want any president to declare a national prayer day for me. Why should the president tell me what day l should or should not pray? How about what l should pray for or which god l should pray to? Very soon, the government will want to tell me what to eat for breakfast, lunch or dinner.
I like the way President Obama is handling this. He's signing a proclamation which shows support, but has chosen to not make it a big ceremony. (Let's face it, in the past these ceremonies were mainly politicized moments anyway.) He has a lot on his plate to take care of - and he's in my prayers every day.
Nicole
Fairfax, CA
The President is someone who represents all Americans – those who pray and those who don’t, I don’t think having an official ceremony is necessary for the White House. That’s why we have separation of Church and State.
John – Massachusetts
I don't mind having a President who is willing to ignor the science of evolution and claims to pray every day just to keep a large part of his constituency. It's when the President hears God answer him that we are in trouble.
for all you Americans that are hard of hearing,hopefully your sight is much better .."Separation of Church and State" means just that...The President shouldn't official recognize any religious practice by way of the Office...he is privately pious....and I think he's giving all the rest of you religious fanatics a hint....get it?
It matters a LOT because it just shouldn't happen. Let there be a day of integrity, or public service, or character development.but not prayer, which is a religious practice. or, the President could really go all the way– invite every tree-worshiping, universe-loving , Scientologist-sold and flying spaghetti monster minister. Then maybe separation of church and state will make a little more sense to people.
There is nothing wrong with Pres. Obama, observing prayer day.
Some people may feel uncomfortable about this, thats their problem !
SA, TX
@Craig,
I could not of said it any better although I did try. Thank you.
A person's relationship with their Maker is private. Prayer can occur anywhere and some people pray only in private.
He's a good man. Tell the critics to leave him alone.
The U.S. is a nation under God it means that we need to seek protection and guidance from the supreme being our creator. Presidents Reagan and Bush set us good examples in this perilous and economic crisis to pray. As the President of the U.S. Mr. Obama should lead our nation in prayers, if not the nation will not be protected from economic crisis and other terrorist attacks like 9/11s
I applaud President Obama's handling of the situation. The very word "prayer" stirs up so many emotions in people on both ends of the belief spectrum, some of which are reminiscent of the radical religious extremists' very emotional decision to fly planes into buildings in the name of "God." The reason we have a separation of church and state is for this very reason....prayer, along with all religious belief, is very personal, and we have seen what happens to countries who fail to keep the two separate. Holding public ceremonies at the highest level of government to honor this day is simply a photo op, and reminds me of people who attend church every Sunday for appearances, but harbor hate in their heart every day of the week.
Religious belief should be a personal and private matter, especially for public officials. We don't need the bible thumpers to shove the bible or any other fictional book down our throats. More and more religions are busted for their hypocritical stands and actions and they are losing their credibility. Religious nuts are responsible for most wars and have no reluctance in taking innocent lives because others don't agree with their ism. Atheists don't bomb churches, but religious fanatics will bomb clinics. Where is the goodness there?
We have freedom of choice! If I choose not to pray & Obama does-so what? With all the piling on he is handling, let him observe anything he wants-he needs any help he can get-just leave such frivolous crap to the choice of the individual.
Jack:
Don't these Christians read their Bible? Matthew 6:5-6 says "And when thou prayest, thou shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. They have their reward.
But, thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut the door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly." This admontion is followed by the Lord's Prayer.
It matters a lot, just recently the President acknowledged Cinco de Mayo, to celebrate and honor an important day to the Latin/Latina community. And he will celebrate other important days for other groups, so why minimize this day? This would have bought him a lot of ground with the religious right. And personally as a liberal latte drinking elitist Christiian who supported the guy, and has taken a lot of flack for it, he could have helped me out as well. Obama went to great lengths to prove he was a Christian during the campaign, and now he seems to want to minimize his "faith". I don't need any leader to encourage me to support special days,but as the leader of the nation, our President should realize that his support or lack there of for special days does make a satement. Going forward I am going to watch the days that he comes out to celebrate or acknowledge very closely.
President Obama is acting in the spirit of God and Jesus' own words. To paraphrase,Jesus said" Go somewhere in private and pray for prayer is a private communication between you and God. Those who pray in public for the sake of being seen in prayer have already recieved their reward."
Remember Jack when Jesus wanted to pray he found solitude in order to pray, yes we live in a time that prayers are needed but everyones exact needs are different. In not publicaly praying on this national day of prayer ( shouldn't every day be a day of prayer) the President respects the views of other religons and to those who advocate no religion. This President respects the religious views of others by not publicly forcing his religion on others. Other religions need to follow his example. .
I like what Obama did. About time.
We should have separation of church and state. Prayer is a personal thing and we all do it in different ways. A proclamation is OK but that is enough. Obama should not put on a public show of his faith, and we shouldn't either, for that matter.
Last time I checked, the government is not a subsidiary of any religion. As a "reality check," what would a company president do? Is it appropriate or acceptable to incorporate religion into the workplace whether that workplace is a private company or the government? Religion has no place in politics, unless you think that Iran's or Saudi Arabia's forms of government are the models to which we should hold ours.
It does matter. This country needs to let go of the sick attachment it has to religion and "GOD". Separation of church and state means there should be no mention of any faith. Not even the ones that get votes.
No, it does not matter to me that the President does not publicly observe prayer day............if we paid attention to his remarks he has declared this prayer day and he SAID he prays EVERY DAY which is what every person (unless it is against their beliefs) should be doing. This is a new era. In this era the superficial responses to real issues are no longer popular..........people are more real, more passionate about thier country, and tired of being treated as though they have no brain. Yes, President Bush had a big ceremony but that is all it was; his actions did not reflect his pretense of prayer and concern for the people. My prayer directive has always been go in the silence and pray............we don't meditate out loud and meditation is very powerful. I ask that we all give thanks, in silence, for peace, an end to violence, and prosperity for all.
Every American has freedom of religion or no religion.
Every American is free to pray whenever he or she choses.
Every American should respect the separation of church and state, one of the critical pillars of our nations founding fathers.
There is absolutely no need for the President to have a national day of prayer. Our government should be totally separate of religion. Don't you wish the Middle East governments were separate of their religions!
it's a sad day when the President of the U.S. doesn't publicly observe a National Prayer Day. I've read somewhere "ONE NATION UNDER GOD" and to refuse to allow a White House meeting for this one day to give God the Glory is sad. I do believe the grassroots of America will remember this. I foresee trouble on the horizon.
I believe that president Obama has a lot more important things to do than to attended an event that was being held by some prayer task committee.prayer is healthy unlike, the state of the economy which is presently unhealthy.the fact of the matter is that pres.Obama is working deligently in order to repair our current economical situation.the prayer committee can help be praying that he and his administration succeeds.
Jack,
As an atheist, I am long accustomed to the hefty lip service every politician must pay to religion and prayer. The fact that so many of Obama's family members were atheists, e.g. his mother, father, and the grandmother who hes claims influenced him so much, sometimes makes me wonder.
But anyone for anyone who wants to do really great things for the country, like Obama does, a facade of belief is practically a minimum requirement. Our Founding Fathers were lucky. They never had to make any such pretense, and rarely did. Ah, the good old days!
There is nothing wrong with how Obama dealt with the National Day of Prayer. I greatly disliked how W. Bush did it, only inviting members of the Judeo-Christian faith to celebrate, and not all faiths. Obama did the right thing leaving the White House out of it and letting the local legislature take the reigns, catering in as much as they can to their own local citizens. The original intention of this day was to encourage citizens and groups of faith to pray for their country, not to hold public masses for only two faiths on governmental property.
I always think of Thomas Jefferson in 1803: "Fasting & prayer are religious exercises; the enjoining them an act of discipline. Every religious society has a right to determine for itself the time for these exercises, & the objects proper for them, according to their own particular tenets; & right can never be safer than in their hands, where the Constitution has deposited it....civil powers alone have been given to the President of the U.S. and no authority to direct the religious exercises of his constituents."
And James Madison in 1817: "Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government is the Constitution of the United States."
It does not matter at all. A national day of prayer has no business in our government that was founded on the separation of church and state. Our founding fathers, most of whom were deists and not Christians, would be spinning in their graves watching the spectacle the Christian Right has made of our politics today.
Given the diversity in religious beliefs in this country and the separation between church and state, the day should never have been proclaimed to start with. It is the same thing with the words, 'under God' that were inserted in the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954 by Congress. When are politicians going to learn to let folk pray or worship as they wish and not by some governmental proclamation? This is a personal matter. So not important.
No not at all! Ever hear of separation of church and state. Praying is between the person doing the praying and god. Praying is a personal thing.
The Bible , the true Word of God:
II Chroniclles 7:14 If my people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven , and will forgive their sin and heal their land. It is obvious that our land needs great healing, so why would our President not desire - to support National Day of Prayer as a day for all of us to publicly pray for the healing of our country, give thanks and praise to our Lord .?? Sad indeed.
I totally agree with President Obama that prayer is a private ritual between an individual, his conscience, his heart, his soul, and that within his faith that he believes and follows and that includes his family if they believe that prayer plays an essential role in their lives. But I sense that the President does not think that prayer should be forced on American society. It should be a matter of choice and not by governmental imposition. I am sure that this President believes that the basic foundation of the United States as we Americans all learned in school is that our country began for the purpose of both freedom from religious tyranny and political tyranny – and that perhaps the greatest priniciple guaranteed by our Constitution was separation of church and state. Why have so many of our political figures and religious leaders forgotten this precept? President Obama, I believe, has not forgotten it. And we should celebrate his integrity, reason, and sensibility.
It is o.k. to Pray. It is a guaranteed Constitutional Right. Let's just hope Obama doesn't take a pulpit to overdue the effort.
Yes, I think it does matter. There are a lot of things we need to pray for. Not just in this country but all over the world. This should be on of the most important day in the calender.If people do not want to pray that day, then they don’t have to. As for me I will be praying with most of the world. I will pray if it is pray day or not. People should pray every-day. God Bless.
I wonder if the vocal critics of President Obama's choice of observing this Prayer Day have bothered to read their Bible which they so often quote?
Jesus said "And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others."
Christian conservatives might be complaining but it is their conservative half, not their Christian half.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." 1st Amendment US Constitution. This "National Prayer Day" is a CLEAR violation of the first amendment and needs to be repealed. In addition, the pledge of allegiance should go back to pre-1954 standards where the words "under god" are not present, as that too is a clear violation of the 1st amendment. Individual people have the right to freely exercise their religion but the government MUST respect the Constitution.
I believe in God and the power of prayer. However, I am thrilled I have a President who wants to uphold my constitutional rights.
The National Day of Prayer is a day designated by the United States Congress as a day when people are asked to come together and pray but the the 1st Amendment states :"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." so isn't this national day really unconstitutional?
I don't need Congress or so-called "religious person" telling me when and how I need to pray. Thank you President Obama for upholding my rights.
" God Bless America" God Bless our troops" and "God Bless our president,weather he likes it or not "..........
It matters not Jack. A person shouldn't have to wear his religion or lack of on his sleeve. Besides look what the last 8 years of a "Christian" leadership did to this country!!
yes... all religion is, is something to believe in. i think we all need to believe in something these days. no matter what religion, what belief, what god, this is the time to recognize prayer, not only in america, but in the world.
Come on Jack, do we really need to have a photo op of the President in prayer?
Each person has their own walk with God, it's not up to having that moment broadcast via a photo. We all worship in our own way, that really isn't for the public to have to view.
It seems that Obama is so obsessed with being the anti-Bush that he is blinded by the good that Bush did do.
Even tho Bush's approval ratings were low when he left office it wasn't because he was 100% wrong all of the time
With the idea that "all things Bush is trash "
Obama is throwing somethings dear to Americans in the garbage
Not sure what is more surprising. That there is a National Day of Prayer or that it has it's own Task Force.
NO; The must goverment stay far from religious matter the best for all people in the world, if you have your belief pray yourself don't go public to do it , no one care, but in Bush era we all be in a big church instead on a free land.
"The National Day Of Prayer" is somewhat of an oxymoron. Praying is something people who believe in prayer do every day. Those who don't pray on a daily basis really don't believe in prayer
A "National Day of Prayer" promoted by politicians is just another hypocritical stunt designed to curry favor with the electorate.
NO! I'm glad that we now have a president that has brought back to the White House a belief in science and doesn't feel compelled to show how religious he is publicly. If you want to pray, pray. It shouldn't be a photo op or done just to say, I prayed. I'm not a religious person, but it would seem that a prayer is something that is between you and your god and doesn't have to be shared with the public to count. With the responsibilty that goes with the presidency, I'm sure Mr. Obama prays frequently, out of sight of the pray score keepers.
Matt
Winchester, Ky
Jack,
Yes it does matter, the President should lead the nation in prayer. It seem to matter a lot during the election, when he had to prove that he was a Christian.
Now it seems as though the dems are going out of their way to show us that they do not believe there is a God. They want to control the air, they pass same sex marriage, even when the people vote against it ....
Our army is not greater than the God we claim to serve, Obama can celebrate a Jewish religious ceremony, what's the problem.
As long as he is not getting directives back from above-let it be...
It absolutely matters whether or not the President publicly observes Prayer Day. And this administration has got it right. Any display of piety what so ever is not in concert with the government's stance of impartiality to a praticular religion. It's simply impossible to appeal to every faith at the same time. As a polytheist I have found that it's impossible to appeal to all faiths in a single ceremony. But the point is that the government should stay away from matters of religion. Even the churches can't get it right.
National Prayer Day is a tradition of a predominantly christian nation. To pray silently or aloud according to one's own belief. When are the few with the louder voices going to quit infringing and berating the christian faith in this community. How sad President Obama can recognize this christian belief to serve his own purpose during a campaign but does an about face with God. He will reap the consequences of his own hypocrisy. Meanwhile we Christians will keep the faith and carry the Truth.
Give me a break. Does he not have bigger problems? I know it is becoming difficult to distinguish between the American government and a Theocracy. We don't need to see our President pushing National Prayer day, when we have our brothers and sisters fighting overseas, people's savings have evaporated and 1 of every 10 people is trying to find employment. Big Picture people.
Like Pres Obama said: "prayer should be in all that we do with our daily lives". everyday.....our very life is suppose to be a ""prayer of praise" to God in all that we do, day to day !
–our obedience to God's will and desire for us....our prayer and praise we give to God ..is found–. in our words spoken daily in our lives, our morals, our dignity, compassion, love given, serving others, forgiveness of others, truth etc--to become the image of God in our daily life–that is the greatest prayer of praise to God...
-–God is not an image that can be carved and looked at.....but to become the image of God in all we do...is the greatest prayer of praise we can give God...... –mercy, love forgiveness, serving others, compassion, truth...seek to become Holy for God is all Holy.
Not like those who sit in the front pews in Churches ... to be seen by all..and they walk out no better a human being, then when they walked in Church..
.......Jesus whole life was a live of "prayer of praise" to God...for Jesus said: I do all that "pleases" my Father in all that I do, and my Father never leaves me!
And whenever you pray, don't be like the hypocrites who love to stand in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they will be seen by people. I tell you with certainty, they have their full reward! But whenever you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father who is hidden. And your Father who sees from the hidden place will reward you.
Jesus Christ as recorded in Matthew 6:5-6
Obama is correct.
We are one Nation under God as of yet. I think to set aside one day a year and honor God is not too much to ask for. In my eyes it is God who lifts up leaders and a president should be an example for the rest of this great Nation in honoring God on this day, especially if he is a Christian. I know there are many non-believer here, that is your choice. We have a MLK holiday and I am certain Pres. Obama would honor him in public on that day as he rightfully should, but why not honor God on the National Day of Prayer in public as a wonderful example to this Nation, does God not deserve the same honor as his servant the Rev. Martin Luther King . I know Rev. King would have honored God in public and prayed that day with other leaders. It is the Pres. choice to do what he wants to do and I hope that God will not turn aside when a president deserves public honor at times. I am a believer and it is my choice to have my believes and opinions and as for me I believe I am only alive because of God and every breath I take is because of him and my self suffiency is nothing without him.
If Obama Pretends to be a Christian, then he should at least pretend to participate
why does anyone even care.? Just last week it was ,"Americans are losing their religion". So now when things are bad it's ,pray. Everyone should be ashamed of themselves.
I'm glad the President didn't have a ceremony and I am a Christian. This is not a Christian counrty.........This country just has a lot of Christians in it. I wish evangalicals would stop trying to label Christianity as our national religion. If they stop focusing on the government recognizing their religon they would see that they need to focus on a crumbling religon because of ungodly leadership and ungodly doctrines being taught. Evangelicals!!!! Stop trying to convert others and make sure that you are converted first. American Christianity needs another reformation!!!!!
There is nothing in the constitution that specifically puts a "magic" wall between church and state. However, the President should pray for guidance.
I would ten thousand times rather have a thoughtful president who prays daily for strength and uses every rod of intelligence to help the country rather one who hogs the cameras with a ceremonious show for believers on Prayer Day. Unlike those in the Bush administration who routinely exploited believers on Prayer Day, and in outrageous sundry ways when election time approached, Obama is a sincere man who considers the welfare of all and wears his position humbly. These are the kinds of virtues prayer promotes. He walks it; therefore he does not need to talk it with empty fanfare.
Hey Jack,
Yes, it definitely matters! Who is advising this man? Come on – the Bible, the Torah, the Koran, etc. calls for the people to pray and to do it without ceasing... Obama's excuses for not praying seems very elitest to me... What's next... "Bow Down to Obama Day – Because He Has All the Answers!" Well, I know a day I will forget in four years...Election Day!!! I will be voting for someone who says he/she prays and then really does it!!!!
Donna
Kentucky
separation of church and state, Say's it all. in god we trust should be removed from our money, and one last thought, why is it all wars involves religion and the week minded god fearing folks, back killing and are above the law's such as torcher ?
I wish elected officials would be mute on the subject of religious belief, or lack thereof, and tell anyone inquiring about it that it is personal and none of their business.
I think it does not matter. In the first place the President is political appoint; not religion figure. Of course, prayer is very important individually or in general. However, from my little knowledge God sees heart not prestige. Please read Luke: Chapter 18 explains considerably about pray.
To each his own.
The country as we know it is going to the hogs. Our money system is going down hill , our Ethics as a country is going to hell in a hand basket. It is very Important for all citizens to see our president praying. This country needs as much prayer as it can get. All those who do not believe in GOD, or JESUS , of course don't want prayer, They are living for the devil and for sin. I am an open denouncer for gay rights. all people deserve the right to be heard, but they always have the choice . The BIBLE tell us that we do have the choice, but in the end only the saved believers of GOD will go to heaven. Homosexuallity is a choice, but it is a choice aginst GOD.
Tim from Dallas TX:
No, Jack, it certainly doesn't matter to most rational people. I don't see how mumbling into your fingertips to an invisible, imaginary sky daddy in public would solve any of the problems we face as a nation. Religion is the problem in the USA, not the solution.
No! Isn't it obvious that a government sanctioned " National Day of Prayer" violates the constitutional requirement for Separation of Church and State? What is this, Iraq?
Hi Jack:
It is sad that our president HAD TO. Recognize the National Day of prayer the way he did. May I remind you that prayer is a very personal thing. It does not belong in dirty poitics. Like Mr. Bush and his “Axis of Evil” comments. While our banks were participating in illegal lending practices that nearly broke the financial foundation of the country. And he did nothing to prevent it. Is that not an Axis od Evil?.
I find your question rather judgemental. Prayer is faith, in faith believing prayer can change the fabric of this country, to one of strength and steadfast rightousness. The president does not need to parade that in front of a TV camera for all to see. Just for a photo OP. Like Bush on that aircraft carrier.
God Bless,
Ron K. Temecula CA
One look at prayer in our founding documents and the quotes from our founding Father's, along with the many prayers of past Presidents, including a 6 minute prayer from Franklin Roosevelt prior to the invasion of Normandy, and it becomes plain to see that President Obama's deliberate public display of non support for our National Day of Prayer, began by George Washington, is not only wrong, it's just plain un American.
Separation of church and state is a beautiful, and ultimately, peaceful thing: We can choose to educate folks on multiple belief systems, religions and philosophies, and ultimately break down ignorance based fears and misconceptions (think lovely government driven side effects here like war, genocide, etc.), or we can unfairly continue to represent a single particular religion. Or ask yourself: when has a country ever been successful pushing one particular belief or way of life?
How many people really understand what our founding fathers meant by the separation of church and state? Simply put, the only purpose of this edict was to make sure the citizens of this country were allowed the freedom to practice the religion of their choice. The intention was not to avoid any mention of God in connection with government. Clearly, our monetary system supports " In God We Trust".
I don't think it matters at all. Personally, I'm glad he's ignoring it. Bushes and raygun just did if for the photo op anyway. I don't want the president pushing religion. It's not his job.
The President should redefine National Prayer Day as Spiritual Unity Day and spotlight effective faith based projects supported by public funding. We are, after all: "One Nation under God".
Put these projects under the spotlight and demonstrate their value, on Payer Day.
i don't know why alot of people think we are a christian nation when it was founded on religous tolerence.we have no national religion and president obama should be free like all of us to pray when he wants to ,not on a certain day
It doesn't matter at all. If you want to pray–pray. If you don't want to–don't. There is suppose to be a separation between church and state in this country. As Americans, we all have the right to pray or not. I'm really tired of special interest groups forcing their beliefs down everyone's throats.
It is not necessary for the federal government to endorse a day of prayer since we have plenty of churches who readily endorse a good dose of prayer. Anyway, even though Bush made a big deal of public prayer- it is certain God was not listening to him.
I haven't posted in a while since I seem to be ignored and not posted for some reason.
Anyway, I think the president has many more important things to deal with than prayer. We have a bad economy, out of control spending, terrorism, etc all are more critical for the president to deal with than prayer. Call me old school but prayer is a private choice and a part of your personal beliefs and personal choice of religion not a public issue.
Why should president Obama make a big to do for National Prayer Day?
Will the religious right think more fondly of him?
Will it sway them to route for our president instead of hoping that he and his policies fail the country miserably?
This is a violation of church and state. God on our money and in the pledge of allegiance was passed in the middle of the 20th century. If there has to be a national day of prayer, then there should be a day set aside for the agnostics, atheists, and freethinkers...etc. How about Darwin day?
david
gardner. mass.
It is the duty of a leader whether this country or any other to command repentance to The One True God. That is why judgement has been continous with this economy and natural disasters. The president needs to nolonger allow the wicked to say there is no God and restore the people to their righteous estate. Yahushuah(Jesus) is coming soon! We need to be more concerned with helping people know what matters keeping people saved & free.Thank you for hearing this case and point! My Final Comment: Restore the People The Freedoms Rightly Deserved (biblical,constitutional and United States Supreme court Decisions in favor of freedom!) then judgements will stop!In God We Trust is on the dollar being spent and funding the life we are living!Just think about No God! NoFood! No Life! A Simple Equation!
It depends on what side of the Constitution you're on; the right side or the wrong side.
Jack,
It seems that most on the left use the separation of church and state as an excuse to eliminate religion and spirituality from any public forum except when bashing anyone, especially Christians who dare admit that religion is an important part of thier lives. The Roman empire decayed from within i under 1000 years. America will never last that long.
Obama isn't a Muslim. But why does it matter anyway?
The powers that be need to read and re-read, the part about seperation of churc and state until they get it.
Leave it to the two extremists to politicize what should be an individual decision. The Christian Coalition wants it all and the Atheists want none. Why must the President make a choice in front of the whole country. No matter what decision he makes someone will be offended. So it is better that he make no decision at all and leave it to each person to either pray or not. To each his own.
Many people find their identity in the traditions established from their forefathers. For example, eating Sunday or going to Easter service. What has been established by prior comment was private prayer. Yet, the bible does not shun public prayer; our dilemma is pleasing the people and religious service with no spiritual empowerment.
Christ stated that men should always pray, but let us not forget that applying religious principles to our lives is what's key.
Prayer is used for direction but men should try their hardest know not to argue for tradition but fully established their religious convictions in bringing balance to the world hit by several political, economic, and social storms. Alongside providing relief for the poor, oppressed, and individuals who are praying for deliverance for their situations.
We can argue opinion and convictions all day but let us not do it when it can impede the progress of helping our hurting land.
If we were really praying we would not be arguing about a day.
I think we need more people speaking out. This country is not overrun with rebels and free thinkers. It's overrun with sheep and conformists. And I enjoy every minute of it.
One more thing. There is no such thing as a separation of church and state! The fist amendment reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." It reads protection from state mandated religion not separation of, and upholds our right to freely exercise our religious beliefs unencumbered by the Atheists!
Most of this stuff, like "under God" in the pledge and "In God We Trust" on our coins, and the "National Prayer Day" were put in place in the fifties, supposedly as an insult to Communist Russia. It has evolved into a litmus test for Americans and especially for anyone running for President. I'm dubious about anyone wearing their religion on their sleeve. The last eight years should be a good example.
It's my understanding that the day of prayer did not endorse any particular religion and thus not participating as previous Presidents Clinton, Bush and others have done does send a message that religion is not important . Perhaps we should pass laws to get rid of religion altogether. You know get rid of offensive concepts like love thy neighbor, treat others as you would like to be treated yourself and so on.
Pres. Obama took a step in the right direction, he does not need to celebrate a day that christians conservative set up in the government. It only matters to people who have religion. I, an athiest, think there should be an Agnostic Day to celebrate the non-existence of god. Other races and religions are celebrated days in the government (ex. Black people have Martin Luther King Day). Everybody should get their day!
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As much as most “Christians” want to show their “faith”, prayer is between you and your God. It’s no one else s business. Besides, doesn’t your Constitution or Bill of Rights guarantee separation of Church and State?
Religion has no place in a pure democracy. Our forefathers accepted many religious groups who were persecuted in their countries but made it clear that their agenda had no place in our legal system. Very wise when you consider the battle raging today between theocracies and democracies. Wear your religion in your pocket and not on your sleeve.
It is a sad day in america when the president cann't even follow the founding fathers of this country who prayed both publically and privately to form this nation we have under God. All or most of our patriotic music ,currency,legal system, even in time of great tragedy(suttle disaster,Mura Building bombing,and 9/11) WW1,WW2,and others americans rely on prayer, We as americans should rely on God not political garbage that run this country
I hope he did pray this morning. Because if his administration talks
Israel into a two state policy with Palestine, Katrina will seem like a
soft spring rain. Ask our former President Bush what he talked Israel
into doing just before Katrina formed? It never fails. We need to leave
Israel alone if we can't do better than to talk them into giving up something that was promised to them ages ago by a God who still
controls the WEATHER. To H- with seperation of Church and State.
If it wasn't for the Church there would be no state. We are not all
ignorant in this country. Study the history and our politics with Israel
Mr. Obama before you move on this issue.
Why has the people who say that they want to express the founding father's intentions gone so far off the mark on the separation of church and state?
This amendment is NOT there to protect the state but to protect the CHURCH!
If any of these people knew anything of history and how to apply the events of the time to what was happening they would know this.
For several hundred years, England had gone back and forth with wars based on religious beliefs. Ireland and Scotland had both been subjugated to attempts at cleansing of the Catholics. England's regals had made a Church Of England, which was the basis of whole sale discrimination against all the other churches. To stop the state from being able the dictate people's choice in how to worship the founding father's made it against the very law of the land.
Because of "Separation of Church and State" the government cannot tell us how or when to worship but MOST important it cannot tell us then or where we choose to worship.
So announce the Day Of Prayer the same as you announce other days such as Martin Luther King Jr. Day, St. Patrick's Day, Secretary's Day, Groundhog's Day, and any number of other special occasions and truly follow the founding father's intention and allow the PEOPLE TO DESIDE FOR THEMSELVES!
Does any of the Presidnets personal lives matter? What his favorite church, burger stand or sports team is does not affect any of us on a personal level. We should all grow up and realize that everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs.
I'm sorry to see that our President isn't observing this day as his predecessors have done in the past. It's pretty much the one day when all Americans can come together in spirit and our President has always led the way. It's a great tradition, contrary to the beliefs of some that feel that prayer has no place in this great country of ours anymore. They and the Supreme Court have conveniently forgotten that our Founding Fathers put God at the head of the table whenever any decision had to be made, even though they wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights stipulating separation of church and state. Until 40 years ago, prayer has served this nation well. It was a sad day for this country when prayer was taken out of schools in the 60's, sadder still when it was systematically banned outside of places of worship. No wonder this country is in the shape that it's in today and that our children have no real concept anymore of morality.
I think we should observe "Thank God we Finally Have a President Who is Trying to Make Progress" Day.
Let's see what the good book has to say on this matter.
Matthew 6:5:
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Seems pretty clear to me.
No, it may offend non-Christians. If you do observe prayer day, go pray to your hearts content and stop forcing America to become Christian because we're the land of the free, and it's our 1st amendment right.
Jesus on National Prayer Day: "...when you pray, go into a room by yourself, shut the door, and pray to your Father who is in secret...do not go babbling like the heathen, who imagine that the more they say the more likely they are to be heard." Matthew 6:5-7, Revised English Bible.
Maybe these Bible-thumpers should try reading the thing once in a while.
One thing I like so much about Pres. Obama is that he doesn't trumpet his religion for political gain. I defy anyone to show me where Jesus advocated ANY form of public prayer. To the contrary, he admonished us not to be as the hypocrites, praying in public for all to see, but to enter into our closets, shut our doors, and pray to our Father in secret. God, who sees us in secret, will reward us openly. (Matt. 6:5-7)
That's the problem with this country... too much has been ignored and misquoted(the fore-fathers true thought of separation of church and state). Our country was founded on christian principles and it's not even the MAJORITY that's tossing them to the side. Our representatives to our government are so afraid of offending someone that the minorities have become the ones to please. Has anybody else noticed the decline of our Christian ethics and the decline of our country's moral fiber..I think they're neck and neck. If I'm disgusted with our turning our back on God I'm sure He's not very happy either! Therfore, I am thrilled that our president has called for observance of a day of prayer for this faltering country....God knows we need it!!!
It's the choice of the sitting president Jack. I think President Obama's statement on religion on this day was fine and will suffice. The Bush White House made it more of an event , to satisfy the religious right that helped elect him. It helped for awhile at least, to give him some credibility among some people. However, in the end, like everything else concerning the Bush administration, it really didn't matter.
There shouldn't BE a "National Day of Prayer", nor any recognition of any "day of prayer" by the government. Whatever the president's personal beliefs, whatever the religious beliefs of its citizens, the United States was founded on the seperation of religion and government. A "National Day of Prayer" is simply un-American.
Davis, CA
I don't think we even need a national day of prayer. We have too many "days" as it s.
Most people either pray or not - it doesn't depend on a specific day set aside by our government.
In fact, come to think of it, we should designate every day of the week as "National Government Work for the People and EARN Your Pay" Day.
I'm guessing that the major support for the national day of prayer is coming from Christians. So, perhaps they should read Matthew 6:5-6 (where Jesus says "pray in private") and to consider the number of times in the NT that Jesus goes off to pray alone. The president's decision to pray in private seems to be far more in keeping with the examples spelled out in the Bible than do the mass gatherings of people who feel the need to be seen praying.
Here's my prayer: Jesus, save us from the hypocrits who think they should be publicly honored for doing what you told them to do in private. If anyone has any doubt about what America might be like with a national religion, check out the Taliban.
Amen, Bibbi from ND.....OUR MAIN PROBLEM....WE ARE NOT A HUMBLE PEOPLE ANY MORE! Who wants an atheist to come to see you in the hospital, when someone ON Fire with the power of the Holy Spirit can lay hands on you....and you recover??? P.S. I am a pastor also....Gal 3:28--Viva all women pastors!!!
The teleprompter wasn't invited and thus Obama wouldn't have any idea what to say.
National Prayer Day? What is that?. Lets see we have the invasion of Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, Abu Ghraib prison camp, AND torture! The rich getting richer & the poorer getting poorer in the so-called richest country in the world. There was never any reason for this day designated as such, its all politics and no one in Washington could care less if there was a National Prayer Day or not. Worship in your own way in your own time AND stay away from this hypocritical political circus uniquely titled with humor.
Obama is no Lincoln!
Lincoln was a deist, who like Jefferson, loathed the scriptures as pure mind numbing nuttiness!
Unfortunately, Lincoln had to start playing the jesus game when he went into politics... all politicians eventually do... have to play along to get along... with christians, their righteousness, and their exceptionism!
Yeah, it matters. Glad to see this issue put in the proper perspective. Our public entities should not be advancing any religion. If we started through the worlds religions in alphabetical order, and each year our president had a prayer thing celebrating the particular religion of the year I guess I would go along with it. Kinda supersticious though. How about celebrating science? And Jack, re: school....there will always be prayer in the schools as long as there are calculus classes!
No, God is energy. E=MC2 Ralph, Yakima, Wa.
If prayer worked, I'd be the first to suggest we have prayer days once a week. But, sadly, prayer does not work. If you think it does, why do we have wars, ethnic cleansings, tsunamis, earthquakes, tornados, recessions and depressions, murders, rapes, and a host of other ills that befall mankind every hour of every day. We really need to stop believing that there's some benevolent spirit up there who's listening to millions of prayers 24/7 and taking action on each and every one of them. Let's face it: Nobody is listening. We're on our own. And the soon we realize it, the better.
religion, what a load of nonsense. Maybe we should be praying to the tooth fairy or santa clause it makes about as much sense. I hope we {evolve} past this soon.Then maybe we can stop killing each other over bronze age mythologies.
Rita, Desperate times calls for Very desperate measures....so for Praying in Public....don't judge the people willing to gather for Prayer time--it is a Good, Pure, and Wonderful thing!!