November 3rd, 2008
06:05 PM ET

Clinton v. Palin 2012: Who would win?

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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Whoever wins tomorrow is going to be a very busy fellow. The size of the problems awaiting the victor is daunting and will take every ounce of energy and concentration he can muster. And it still might not be enough.

You can bet Americans will have high expectations of our next president. Of course after the last eight years, the bar isn't set very high.

Nevertheless, it's possible the tasks at hand could simply prove to be too much, which means in four years voters could be looking to make another change.

Ponder this: What if 2012 rolls around and McCain considers resigning after one term? Or Obama makes some huge mistake that makes a second term a long shot for him?

This campaign has been fun to watch, but the thing I have in mind would be off the charts. What if the next election saw Sarah Palin running against Hillary Clinton for president?

Palin said the other day, "I'm not doin' this for naught." And she's made it perfectly clear, especially to McCain's campaign, that she has other interests besides being vice president. Clinton almost didn't survive losing the nomination, and you can bet she would seize on getting another shot. It would be simply breathtaking!

Here’s my question to you: Who would win a fight between Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin in 2012?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Chris from Athens, Ohio writes:
Clinton would destroy Palin in an election. Hillary Clinton is a serious, intelligent, and highly capable woman, while Sarah Palin was used as a desperate ploy by John McCain to make sure the right wing nut jobs turned out in force on Election Day.

Mirra from Denmark writes:
Hillary would break through the ceiling big time! With the gender card irrelevant, Senator Clinton would completely destroy Palin on every issue!

Lucy from Illinois writes:
Hillary by far is the best of the women. I am voting for Obama and hopefully he will be in until 2016. Hillary, please be ready to run then. You'll do great. No naive, wolf or moose killer, for the president of U.S.A. You betcha, dog gone it. Lipstick, please.

Mike writes:
Sarah Palin could not handle a softball interview with Couric. Hillary would leave Palin's head spinning with comical cartoon stars and twittering birds.

Steve from Long Beach, California writes:
If Palin ran as an "every woman" instead of someone pretending to know things, she would win hands down against the "consummate politico," Clinton.

Jaime writes:
Hillary, no doubt. It'd be like comparing Albert Einstein and Paris Hilton.

Phil from Los Angeles, California writes:
You are a sick and twisted man. Please go lie down.

soundoff (477 Responses)
  1. Peggy in Iowa


    November 3, 2008 at 1:28 pm |
  2. Cori from Colorado

    This is a no brainer. Hillary is intelligent, has experience, is a leader, knows what the issues are, relates to millions of Americans, shows respect, and has class, all the things Sarah is lacking.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:30 pm |
  3. Jim in British Columbia

    That is a pure fantasy question Jack, since it will be Obama V. a republican – whether it be Palin or not will depend on how suicidal the republican party becomes.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:31 pm |
  4. Pat in Atlanta

    Hillary, hands down. But what a fight that would be! And what about SNL - a dream come true for them. Let's just hope that it's the second term for Obama after a truly remarkable performance during his first four years.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:31 pm |
  5. Katiec Pekin, IL

    After everything is exposed about Palin (guess we have to wait
    until after the election for the media to do this) she would not
    be voted in dog catcher.
    According to articles the people of Alaska did not realize they
    were paying for her to live in her house and transportation
    for her children.
    Hey, I thought the outcome of their depositions were supposed
    to be made public before the election?? Probably more
    republican suppression.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:32 pm |
  6. Tom Huntington,NY

    Palin isn't qualified to carry Hillary's purse but the real answer is Barack Obama. I think we will need him for a second term.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:33 pm |
  7. Landor Maiar from Sweden

    Clinton is by far the most knowledgeable of the two. McCains campaign has criticized Obamas "inexperience" but field to see Pailin with same eyes. The thing is however that It will be Obama against Pailin 2012. For i see no reason Obama yous´t sitting four years.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:33 pm |
  8. Judy Goebel Mesa AZ

    If it came to that, Hilary is the real deal. She has substance. Palin has hot air.

    Go Barack!!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:34 pm |
  9. Peri W.

    Jack, if you're starting the 2012 election season already, I'm going to jump off a bridge. Obama will beat Palin when he runs for his second term as President.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:34 pm |
  10. Holly Albuquerque, NM

    I believe Clinton would win that race. Palin has not made a good impression on the vast majority of the American people. Not only do I believe it was a gutsy choice by McCain to pick Palin as his running mate, I think it back fired. He plucked her from obscurity (well before she was ready) which is where I hope she returns.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:34 pm |
  11. Mike

    No mas . . . Hillary will kick her butt.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:35 pm |
  12. Malka D. Oceanside CA

    Obama is going to be running again you better change your dates.
    Palin's not fit to touch the hem of Hillary's pantsuits

    November 3, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  13. Andy in Florida

    If Clinton nearly beat Obama and Obama is going to smash McCain, logic would suggest Clinton by a landslide.

    But let's back up for a second. The Republican party has some work to do. Do they stand for big government and 700 billion dollar bailouts, or rather more importantly the policies that lead to them, or do they stand for small government and low taxes. In essence, are they the party of Ron Paul or are they the party of Sarah Palin? If they become the former they will likely be moving forward and back into power in 2012 and we won't see the likes of Palin again. If they become the party of Sarah Palin, the Republicans better get used to losing not just this year but for many years to come.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  14. Rachielle from VA

    Oh Jack,

    That's a Palin! (aka a NO-BRAINER)

    November 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  15. Beth


    2012 would be President Obama's second term. And please do not put Senator Hillary and Sarah Palin's name in the same sentence. It's disrespectful towards Hillary Clinton.
    Love you Jack.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  16. Susan Pittsburgh, PA

    Don't make me laugh. After tomorrow Sarah Palin will be know as the woman who cost the Republicans the White House. They'll be sending her and the entire Palin clan back on a bus to Alaska. She'll be lucky to re-elected mayor of Wasilla.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  17. will

    You are joking, right?

    November 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm |
  18. Anna - Santa Teresa, NM

    Obama would win his 2nd term. The only way it would come down to Clinton versus Palin is if McCain wins tomorrow and if that happens, I'd put my money on Clinton. Sooner or later, America will realize that a D-average student as President is something we can't take anymore-especially after George Dubya Bush.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  19. will

    You are joking, right?

    November 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  20. Frank from Peterborough

    Well Jack since Palin lied about releasing her medical records do you think she could get away with this when running for President?

    Me thinks Sara is going to have a tough time keeping her day job in Alaska as this campaign has shed some light on her that most Alaskans likely weren't aware of with still more to come.

    Anyway the decent Republicans will likely take their party back from the wackos who hijacked it and Palin wouldn't be allowed a membership let alone to become a candidate.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  21. Mike Smith, New Orleans

    If you're talking about arm wrestling Jack, I think Hillary would win. But if you're asking who could win the Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity vote, I think Palin has the right wings to win it.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  22. jaffer

    If u want sarah palin to be embarrased ,let her not even run against hilary clinton on 2012 but lets just put them in a debate just for fun and u will see what will happen.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  23. Scott - Wichita, Kansas

    I'm a Republican, but I don't see any of these people running.

    Obama is going to win tomorrow night, unfortunately (not that McCain is any better)
    So he'll be the incumbent.

    Palin isn't going to be going anywhere near the Presidency.

    It will be Obama v Huckabee in 2012
    wait and watch

    November 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  24. John in Rohnert Park

    Why are we "presuming" Obama is so suddenly off the radar screen? Do you know something we don't? Anyway, I think Obama's second term in 2012 should be a breeze against just about anybody. However, if it's Hillary vs. Palin then the short answer is Hillary. Between now and then we'll come to realize just how stupid Palin truly is and the mania will quickly end.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
  25. Nicole in Athens

    Jack! How dare you! Obama would win his second term!!!

    Now, if Obama declines to run again, then Hillary would most definitely field dress Sarah with both eyes closed and one hand tied behind her back!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  26. Jenny Rome Ga

    As far as pure ambition goes it will be neck in neck. But Hiaalry will wipe the floor with her cause she has the brains to back up that ambition. I bet she knows that heads of state do not do call in radio .

    November 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  27. Carl Deshazer

    Hillary would win by a long shot, she almost beat out Obama, what a team they would have made together.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  28. Silas, NC

    Obama! Clinton wouldn't try again till 2016 – especially if Obama gets us out of the Bush mess. I think 2012 is too early to trust a republican president, regardless of who it is. Palin wouldn't win anyways, as nobody will ever forget that horrible interview with Katie Couric. As you stated before Jack, she committed political suicide, and even if she somehow does get revived, she wouldn't have a chance with Obama in office.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
  29. DEE

    Clinton, Hands Down!!!!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
  30. Joanne Buck

    Palin by a landslide ! Why?
    Been a governor, thus executive experience, put crooked politicians (of her own party as well) and oil company executives in jail., sold the jet and saved Alaskans $400,000 on her family travel in one year, last month refunded $3290.00 to each Alaskan (royalites due her people that she did not try to spend elsewhere), and most of all is
    Just saw her speak and she is as good as preacher style Obama.
    HONEST !
    Joanne Buck

    November 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
  31. Emi

    If it were based on intelligence alone Hillary's pinkie toe would beat Palin any day.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
  32. John in Santa Barbara, CA

    I listened to one of Palin's speeches this morning. It was a vicious and loathsome attach on Obama that will not be forgotten. In doing this she has marked herself, she will forever be considered a Neo-Con, as far to the right as a person could be. This is a cardinal mistake for anyone that is seeking higher office. If you remember, this polarization problem, was one of the criticisms leveled at Hillary. Between the two, because of polarization, I would say TOSS-UP.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
  33. Jette in Chattanooga, TN


    November 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm |
  34. Curtis from California

    I think the Republican party is going to take a serious hit. It's absurd that they even have a chance to win this year. If you can name one Republican success for the 5 trillion they've added on the deficit I'd like to hear it. So, Hillary would take it 60-40. Republicans need a time out from having control of our government, as they think about what they've done.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:43 pm |
  35. Raphael in New York

    Jack, Hillary will win. The large number of popular votes as a well as
    pledged delegates she won in important states during the primaries should have given her the Presidential Nomination for the Democrats.
    Palin is popular but unless Clinton makes foolish moves, she will retain her popularity - no contest!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  36. brian

    Sarah Palin,

    We will need a good conservative to fix this country after Obama gets through with it.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  37. Frank, FL

    Clinton, Clinton, Clinton any questions? I am sure the Republicans are smarter than having that sewage treatment plant running again.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  38. connie

    After eight years of Obama and Biden, it will be Hillary and Tina Fey.

    Connie from Indiana

    November 3, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  39. Jane in CA

    Hillary fer sure. Palin will win the right wing of the Republican party. Hillary will win the other 65% of Americans.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:46 pm |
  40. Staci from Nashville, Tn

    Are you serious to ask this question, Hillary of course, Palin doesn't have sense enough to pour water out of a boot. But what about Barack, how do you know he will not be running again.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:46 pm |
  41. Demi Brandon, Atlanta

    No brainer, Jack. Hillary will definately win because her base looks more like modern day America than Palin's snowcapped mountain.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:46 pm |
  42. Annie, Atlanta

    Hillary Clinton, hands down. Do you honestly believe Sarah Palin is qualified to hold any political office, ever?

    November 3, 2008 at 1:47 pm |
  43. tom, madison, wi

    Sarah Palin gave me a great appreciation for Hillary Clinton.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:47 pm |
  44. Robin

    Palin would not make it through the primaries.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:48 pm |
  45. melody from colorado

    These two candidates....landslide........clinton

    November 3, 2008 at 1:49 pm |
  46. Caroline, Hamer SC

    That's easy Hillary Clinton whom is way more smarter.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:49 pm |
  47. Sue -Idaho

    Please Jack, I don't want to be ill, I'm so looking forward to Obama/Biden becoming President and VP, I can't stand to even think about another election right now! let us have a least a few days please!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  48. Joe in DE

    Clinton in a landslide.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  49. Joey in Ellenton, Fla

    Do you mean a fist fight or an electoral fight? Palin, who is younger and an outdoorswoman, would probably win the former. Otherwise, Hillary Clinton, who actually HAS both qualifications and personal qualities, would win convincingly.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  50. Lois Ont., Canada

    I don.t like either of them but Hillary has brains not Sarah!!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  51. arlene rannfeldt

    sarah palin is not by a long shot a hillary clinton..hillary would mop the floor with her..

    November 3, 2008 at 1:51 pm |
  52. Ted O. (Canada)

    Not the slightest doubt about who would win between, Hilary or Sarah!
    Hilary of course! Hilary appeals to a much wider voter audience, her values are closer to the average voter, and I might also add the most important point, the point that Hilary has forgotten more than Sarah ever new or could even grasp. Sarah Palin appeals to a very small populist mad red neck voter audience. American politics are moving closer to the center. Politicians like Sarah Palin, appeal only to the religious right, the farm belt, and boys from billy-bob country.The world is getting more complex and requires the smartest of the smart, not hockey moms,with poor grammar!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:51 pm |
  53. Michael Scanlon-Newmarket Ontario

    Hillary has creditibility and a history that Sarah Palin can only hope to have. Sarah chats with strangers on the phone as if they are old friends, only to find out she is being punked. Senator Clinton has shown time and time again that she has the street smarts and savy to deal with global issues. I expect s will be in the White House in 2016. Sarah Palin should get a talk show. She is a lot of ambition, but no realization that life is bigger than downtown Anchorage.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:53 pm |
  54. Greg in Cabot AR

    I don’t anticipate a matchup in 2012 but the only way Palin could beat Hillary in a fight is to use a hockey stick in a dark alley.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:53 pm |
  55. Jim vancouver wa

    Jack, There are some interesting animals in Alaska. They are confined to dark quarters in the winter time under the snow. They mate and multiply like crazy. When the spring thaw comes they set there looking at Russia. The melting snow forces them out of their homes, and they head toward Russia. When they hit the beach they are confused and see logs laying everywhere. The leader of the first wave (wearing lipstick) Screams, "Just say no to those bridges to nowhere". And they all run into the ocean and drown. The second wave Leader seeing this Yells "change is needed". They follow her to the logs and to higher ground. They start building new homes and The colony again starts flourishing. Because the second leader led them to higher ground, they call her Hill ery. Strange creatures, these Lemmings!!!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:54 pm |
  56. Bushwhacked in Eugene, OR

    Hillary. Hands down!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:55 pm |
  57. Matt from Redwood City, CA

    There is no doubt in my mind that if Palin actually studies the issues and provides more than average answers in the debates and to the press, she could definitely be the standard-barer of the Republican party and the religious right in the future. But her present ignorance of all the issues will never get her anywhere in this present political environment.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:56 pm |
  58. John Battiloro

    At this moment who cares. But in reality, I think Palin will fall back into an Alaskan obscurity and end up founding "adopt a Moose" cause. guess that means Ms. Clinton.


    White plains, NY

    November 3, 2008 at 1:57 pm |
  59. Precious Coker

    After this election. Sister Sarah Palin is done from the National scene. Period!!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:57 pm |
  60. Bruce St Paul MN

    Once again, it would be a contest between a candidate who is offering solutions to real-life problems, and a candidate offering insults and lies. I would bet on the one with solutions. (Would Palin attack Clinton on her past association with Bill?)

    November 3, 2008 at 1:58 pm |
  61. Michael Scanlon-Newmarket Ontario

    Sarah Palin's blind ambition is beyond naive, it's downright irresponsible! To think this lady wants to potentially run the country? My goodness, she would get chewed up and spit out of any international meeting. He is a little fish wanting to be in the largest of ponds. Senator Clinton has the knowwithall to swim with the sharks and would represent Americas interests well. Sarah Palin....would be bait.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:58 pm |
  62. Amber - Austin, TX

    Hillary Clinton hands down.
    Brains, experience, brawn, and oh yeah – SUBSTANCE!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:59 pm |
  63. Ken - Keller, TX


    Let us hope your hypothetical question is just that....hypothetical, as we should pray for a successful Obama first term but for the sake of argument, Palin cannot carry Hillary's speech-book. Let us hope that on November 5th, Sarah Palin is back to the wilderness of Alaska, extending an invitation to Dick Cheney to go hunting while the moose and wildebeest are setting their traps so we may never hear from these irrelevant politicians again. We can only pray Cheney's shotgun is not loaded thus enabling Palin's designer-wardrobe is spared pellet damage. Oh I forgot, it was all donated.....yeah right!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 1:59 pm |
  64. Allan Hanson Cameron Park Ca.

    I had hoped it wuld be Hillary this time. But the right wing sabatoged her with help from the A.A.s that betrayed the Clintons, who had done more for them than any other Administration.
    As mentioned before Palin could not cary Hillaries bra.
    If you look up "bimbo" or "trailer trash "in the dictionary you will find Palins picture. She is a sad joke.

    November 3, 2008 at 1:59 pm |
  65. Paula NY

    Clinton ...if this was the only choice. I hope Obama can do both terms, though.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:00 pm |
  66. odessa ohio

    hillary would win if she can get obama's voters because some of them won't forget about her dirty tactics during the primary..now, sarah the dense nut, wouldn't have a prayer to win..she doesn't know the constitution, the bill of rights, and the american court system because she has done nothing for her state but abusing power..let tina fey beat her at a reasonable debate and then she could face hillary..

    November 3, 2008 at 2:00 pm |
  67. Kyle- DuPont, WA

    Wow! Talk about a celebrity death match. A lot can happen in four years and the only thing that would make this possible would be a McCain Victory tomorrow which would mean that Palin would go in to the race as the sitting VP. That would up her credibility and we would then be talking about Hillary's age. Jack, this is a bad visual,...please change the question.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:01 pm |
  68. Kevin

    Clinton will win no hands downs. It's that simple. Sarah Palin is like a barbie doll just that she is real.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:01 pm |
  69. Venia PA


    November 3, 2008 at 2:02 pm |
  70. carson

    At that time , palin will not be allowed to leave from alaska . because she will not be a governor any more. because she would have been back fire of all her power abusement and go down to hunting.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:02 pm |
  71. IrishCal

    I am hoping that Barack Obama will run for a second term! Should he choose not to run again, my money's on Hillary, hands down. Ever hear the expression, "Age and treachery will outlast youth and skill?"
    Sarah will be only a dim(-witted) memory.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:02 pm |
  72. Anne/Seattle

    They won't both be the nominess in 2012 but I believe Hillary would easily win that match up. Hillary has the experience and the intelligence to become president, whereas Ms. Palin will still be Ms. Palin. While I've been fully behind Obama and dreaded the idea of Hillary winning, she definitely is a superior candidate compared to Ms. Palin.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm |
  73. Chuck in Sheboygan, WI.

    Now that's a debate I'd pay to see! Once the introductions were over, Hillary would embarrass Sarah Palin without having to try. Maybe Sarah should look into that QVC hostess spot; it's about the only thing she's qualified for.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm |
  74. Mark in OKC

    depends on how badly Obama messes things up in his four years.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:04 pm |
  75. Brady

    Right now, Hillary Clinton would definitely win an election between the two of them. But, Palin could get some more national experience in the next four years and could become a contender in 2012 or 2016. But, right now, Clinton would certainly win.

    Brady from Columbus, Ohio

    November 3, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  76. Mark - Asheville, NC

    My goodness, look at the pro-Hillary comments here! We certainly didn't see these back in the Spring when Hillary was being attacked the way Palin is now.

    But your question is amazingly revealing: the only way such a matchup in 2012 could occur is if McCain wins tomorrow! Glad to see you think he will pull it off, as well.

    Who would win?? Depends upon how McCain's term goes. If all is well and rosy then, Palin could win, although I would prefer Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  77. Sandi, Chicago

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out... HILLARY!!!

    Please... let's rest a few days after the election before talking about 2012!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  78. Randy in New York

    No comment!

    Why are we still talking about the Clintons?

    November 3, 2008 at 2:06 pm |
  79. Kathryn, AZ

    Comparing Moose Betcha with Hillary is like comparing Earth agains the rest of the Universe. In a debate Moose would go home crying.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:07 pm |
  80. Jan Davis, Knoxville, TN

    I think Palin has done enough damage to her credibility in the current election cycle that the Republicans wouldn't dare to put her on the Presidental ballot again. However, she is so ambitious she might form a third party to really really focus on the end of the world and her place in the rapture!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:07 pm |
  81. Sharon

    CLINTON!!!! That's obvious...Palin would not stand a snowball's chance in --!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:07 pm |
  82. Karl in CA

    Sarah WHO???

    November 3, 2008 at 2:07 pm |
  83. Brian, Montreal, Quebec

    Jack, a fight, Sarah Palin. A campaign – as Joe Biden said, "Is this a real question?"

    November 3, 2008 at 2:08 pm |
  84. Nora Corpus Christi Texas

    Palin is a political joke, someone says she could get her own game show, Hillary would beat her hands down, I wish Palin would try and go up against Hillary, she will know then what it feels like to get spanked and sent to your room, I mean back to Alaska!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:08 pm |
  85. Howard M. Bolingbrook IL

    First of all Obama will still be President in 2012. But, if Clinton were to actually run against Palin in 2012, I feel strongly that Sen. Clinton would prevail.

    Gov. Palin's ideas as it effects woman in this country is out of the main stream. Palin would not be able to garner that vital part of the over all electorate.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:08 pm |
  86. Dave in Astoria

    It would depend on what they were fighting for and/or fighting over. If it were like a UFC bout, I would go with the younger fighter with stamina and strength: If it were a legal case or court battle, I'd go for the experience of the seasoned veteran. But... if it were on the political scene, I think I'd go for the blonde.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:09 pm |
  87. Tina (Texas)

    You know how to ruin a person's lunch don't you? I will have to go with Hillary cause I do not want to listen to Palin's screech owl voice giving speeches. I can see the moon from my house so does that make me an astronaut?

    November 3, 2008 at 2:09 pm |
  88. chuck

    Jack please do not mention Hillary Clinton with Sarah Palin.Sarah Palin is a total IDIOT and should not be seen on national television.Could you believe this idiot was talking on the telephone to pranks from canada who led her to believe she was speaking to the French Prime Minister. Check Youtube.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:10 pm |
  89. Dina S., Ashland VA

    What kind of fight? Hand-to-hand combat? Hillary. Intellectual debate? Hillary. Choosing attractive spouses? A draw. Moose shooting? Sarah. World's worst, most selfish parent? Sarah – hands down.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:10 pm |

    In A landslide HILLARY!
    Intelligence counts!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:10 pm |
  91. Rex in Portland, Ore.

    I don't know and I don't care, but I will guarantee you the filthiest, dirtiest, most negative campaign of all time from both of them (judging from past history).

    November 3, 2008 at 2:10 pm |
  92. Miko Kansas city

    Sarah Palin will have no chance should she be up against Hillary. I predict that should Obama/Biden win the election all of the conservative media will turn on Sarah Palin!!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:11 pm |
  93. Chichi from Bucks County, PA

    How about a realistic choice? After the Couric interview, the clothes and the states money she spent inappropriately I doubt if Palin can even win re-election "up there" in Alaska.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:11 pm |
  94. Gary of El Centro, Ca

    I don't think we'll ever see that match up, because Obama will ride the huge wave of "change" into the White House and reside there for the next eight years. But if it were to occur, Hillary would mop up the floor with Sarah.......it would be a first round knock out.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:11 pm |
  95. Katrina VA girl

    Sarah palin has a hard time just runnig for vp so what makes her think she can run for president .she has nothing against Clinton. Sarah palin will need a lot of training before she can even think about running against someone like Clinton

    November 3, 2008 at 2:11 pm |
  96. Conor in Chicago

    This assumes there will still be a United States in 2012. If McCain wins I see WWIII. If Obama wins I see the Second American Civil War. I think this question ignores the reality of the future of this country.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:11 pm |
  97. Craig in Illinois

    Hillary of course Jack!
    Palin will be like Dan Quayle.....H-I-S-T-O-R-Y!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:12 pm |
  98. sam

    Forget it.It would never happen.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:12 pm |
  99. Walt from N.C.

    Hillary, of course! She would grind Palin up and make moose sausage out of her !!!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:12 pm |
  100. Donna Wisconsin

    Well that is assuming Obama looses and McCain dies in office and we are stuck with Palin as Pres. And if Americans were that dumb to elect McNasty then they deserve Palin. The GOP needs to re invent themselves into more than extreme right wing politics and nasty negative campaigning. People are more than Republican or Democrate anymore. At least I hope so or our country is truley doomed.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:13 pm |
  101. Brian Becker

    That would be one of the most divisive matchups ever. I think the only option for me in that election would be to vote third party. I just couldn't bring myself to vote for either of them.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:14 pm |
  102. Larry in Florida

    They would be fun to watch don't you agree Jack? I would put my money on Hillary over Sarah. If this were to happen you can bet it would get the full and undevided attention of everyone. I know I would be visiting the Cafferty file on a regular basis so I could put my 2 cents in like everybody else. I think we should get started Nov. 5th.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:14 pm |
  103. Charlotte - Pa

    Hillary would eat Sarah for lunch. You can't even compare the two.
    As a women I want someone who I can respect and has some
    dignity and respect for herself and others – no winking six pack
    who's actions belong in a bar.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  104. Marie Ontario

    Jack do you think Sara Palin will be out of jail by 2012?

    November 3, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  105. douglas in minnesota

    Jack that would be a real toss-up:

    Hillary - extremely intelligent; possesses in-depth knowledge on national issues; very astute on international affairs and foreign policy; commands the respect of many of the smartest political, economic, and military leaders in the nation; has worked for, and earned, the respect of millions of Americans.

    Sarah - can locate Russia on map (on 3 out of 5 attempts); can spell "you-betcha:" has nice clothes; wears fashionable eye-glasses; can read a tele-prompter without TOO much difficulty; has a wonderfully smooth, serene voice; can shoot moose.

    Yup, that election match-up will be a real nail-biter!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  106. Nancy fromTucson

    Jack, Thats just silly! Number one, Obama will be our president for 8 years. If your question was just for fun, the answer would be Hillary. Palin doesn't even come close in intelligence, knowledge and class.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  107. Sal

    Hillary would whoop Sarah's -

    November 3, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  108. Larry from Georgetown, Texas

    Jack, you should be a writer for SNL with this question because it would be like Secretariat versus me running a horse race. Obviously, Clinton would be the horse and Palin the nag.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  109. Fran Cassanto

    Because!! Barack Obama will be reelected in 2012.

    Spring City, Pennsylvania

    November 3, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  110. Diane, Barneveld, NY

    Is this a trick question? Is Palin going to get an education in politics 101? The only ones that like her are the men and the MSM. For all the talk of women liking her and wanting to vote for her, I know of none. Hillary in a landslide.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm |
  111. Phyllis Doherty

    This is a non-issue. Barack will run for a second term. Sarah will have another child and decide to stay in Alaska. Hillary will become an important ambassor in world affairs and realize that she can do more good improving the image of the United States globally.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm |
  112. Brett in Oriskany,Va

    I assume Obama will be going for a second term in 2012. So that race might happen in 2016. By that time ,I hope, Plain, and her brand of politics will have receded back to the tundra. I don,t think the RNC is going to be willing to have whats left of the party split by the likes of Caribou Barbie. Its 20th century politics, the styles of Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon, not to mention Karl Rove.By 2012 that style of political maneuvering will be hopefully obsolete.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm |
  113. Mike, Vancouver

    Senator Clinton, hands down.

    Governor Palin needs to take some ethics training and finishing schooling, so she doesn't sound like a high school student council wanna be.

    Alaska does things different because of where it exists. You need to give good tax breaks to families just to get them to live there. The same thing exists in the Canadian tax system. These types of things are not rocket science. She doesn't live in the Governors mansion in Juneau (a benefit being wasted). She has kept her residence in Wasilia Alaska.

    Having been in Alaska and talked to many people there she is viewed as a good Governor however to get people to live in the north you need to create the desire to live there, and that is through the pocket.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm |
  114. Robert in Galveston

    Hillary, You betcha!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:16 pm |
  115. Joe St Louis, MO


    Interesting question. I believe Hillary would win but the republicans always find a way to spread fear. The ability to vote with an intelligent view of things has been altered due to propaganda from the right. Many voters in my area vote on one issue.


    St Louis.MO

    November 3, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  116. Bert, Iowa City, IA

    Palin will fade away like Quayle, neither being presidential material.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  117. Myrock, Snellville, GA

    Hillary would win because like me, people would rally behind her just as we did for Obama!

    People are getting wise to these Right Wing nut jobs and we will not stand by and let them mess things up for us any longer.

    This is my belief of this whole thing. Stop going back and begin going forward.

    Myrock, Snellville, GA

    November 3, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  118. Steve K.

    Neither one of them. Things are going to be screwed so bad with Obama and the democrastic congress that people will be crying for Bush to come back. That's Jeb Bush.
    Mark your calenders.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  119. Courtney, South Windsor, CT

    Don't joke about that Palin character staying around for that long. Just don't. None of us have the stomach for it.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:18 pm |
  120. Paul Round Rock, Texas

    I would say Hillary unless the Dems make a worst mess of things which would be very hard to do. But you never can rule out those conservatives they may push the Pistol Packing MaMa in. Lets all hope that never happens.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:19 pm |
  121. vern-anaheim,ca

    hilary clinton is far superior to sarah palin in knowledge and ability,she would send palin back to alaska out of national politics for good.hilary is much more qualified than palin and it's easy to see why,no comparrison,it's not even close

    November 3, 2008 at 2:19 pm |
  122. Emma, San Jose, CA

    First, Palin will need to defeat Romney, Huckabee, and other Republicans who run. Doubtful she will win a primary election.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:19 pm |
  123. Gigi in Alabama

    Since Obama is going to win in 2008, there will not be a Hillary/Sarah battle in 2012. He will be our president for 8 years.
    By 2016, most people will be asking . .. "Sarah who??? . . . oh you mean that cartoon on SNL Whatever happened to her?"

    November 3, 2008 at 2:20 pm |
  124. heartlight 3, Maui, HI

    I think, on merit, Hillary would win. However, I have never seen this mentioned, but if Obama runs in 2012, that would make it 2016 before Hillary could run, and by then she will be 70 years old.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:20 pm |
  125. Tom, The Heart of Democracy, Avon, Me.

    The Republican Party is going through a rebranding process. They didn't do Senator McCain the courtesy of waiting until after the election before announcing it because they see this ticket as a disaster.

    There is no way Governor Palin will come out of this looking like a viable candidate for that rebranded Republican Party.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  126. Jerry from Monroe Co., WV

    In Mixed Martial Arts fighting I would have to take Palin based on age, but in politics, I would have to go with Hillary because she can intelligently answer questions from the press.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  127. Paul, Brooklyn NY

    Neither one. In 2012 President Obama will be running for re-election, Senator Clinton will be bolstering her credentials as the greatest woman senator in the history of this country, and Sarah Palin will be in Alaska, in her helicopter, with her rifle, hunting for liberals.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  128. MBG (NY)

    I'm an Obama Supporter and I fully expect a President Obama. But I'll indulge you..... Palin would never survive a debate against Hillary – I don't care how expensive her suit is. And remember, Hillary's guns are as bigs as Palins! So hands down...Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  129. Robert W. Brooks


    Unless Sarah Palin can significantly increase her level of experience and expertise in domestic and international affairs over the next four years, she will not have a broad enough voter base to beat Hillary Clinton. Voters have seen over the past eight years, the presidency is not the place for on the job training.

    Forest, VA

    November 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  130. LYNDA in CT

    Palin will be a nobody, after this election. She still has not released her medical records, at this time.

    She's probably hiding something horrible, which would have her a non- issue candiate.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:22 pm |
  131. teresa

    If I only had to choose between the two of them, no question – Hillary Clinton. That said, we will never have that decision to make. The Republican party has hopefully learned that Gov. Palin is more of a drag on a ticket than an asset. She is symbolic of choosing a running mate for her legs rather than her brains. I would like nothing more than to see a woman in the top office in the nation. It is too long coming, but the candidate (male or female) must be competent. Hillary Clinton was an excellent choice. As a democrat, I have to say, we had a wealth of choices for our nominee. There wouldn't have been one I would have been ashamed of. All that said, THIS woman voted for the best candidate this election – Barack Obama!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:22 pm |
  132. Ken in NC

    Hillary without a doubt. She can see Canada and Niagra Falls from New York while all Palin can see is Russia and a moose in her sights.

    Palin can't even qualify to clean up behind Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:22 pm |
  133. Dennis from Albuquerque

    I really don't think that that will be the case in 2012. President Obama will be the Democrat Candidate.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:23 pm |
  134. Mark - Asheville, NC

    My goodness, look at the pro-Hillary comments here! We certainly didn’t see these back in the Spring when Hillary was being attacked the way Palin is now.

    But your question is amazingly revealing: the only way such a matchup in 2012 could occur is if McCain wins tomorrow! Glad to see you think he will pull it off, as well.

    Who would win?? Depends upon how McCain’s term goes. If all is well and rosy then, Palin could win, although I would certainly prefer Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:23 pm |
  135. Rob , NYC

    who would win , why Obama for his 2nd term !

    November 3, 2008 at 2:23 pm |
  136. Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia

    Jack: Neither is going to win......because neither is going to be running. They are both done deals....If Obama wins--he will serve two terms especially if he can turn the country around.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:23 pm |
  137. Helena, Clearwater, FL

    Jack, Mickey Mouse could beat Palin. She is the worst candidate in the history of elections. Not only is she stupid and ignorant, she is viscious, mean, cruel and a liar. He habit of abusing executive privilege is the same as Bush and Cheney. Why in the world would anyone, including Alaska, want her as a leader? Anyone that thinks they can flirt and lie into a position as a leader of the free world really needs their head examined. Why won't she release her medical records? So many rumors are flying including the birth of Trig and the thought of her having a medicated mental condition are rumors that need to be put to rest.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:24 pm |
  138. Dennis North Carolina

    Hillary Clinton and Palin will be retired in Alaska so she can keep a eye on Putin.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  139. W B in Las Vegas

    I think a Clinton vs Palin race in 2012 pretty much assumes a McCain-Palin vicyory this year so the question is probably moot because with 4 more years of Bush economics, I don't think there would be a United States of America to vote in anymore.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  140. Ed - Eagan , Minnesota

    Jack, I won't have to vote for either candidate as Obama will be up for re-election and will get my vote. Our country will be well on its way back to prosperity so Obama will eaily win re-election.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  141. Dennis, Cleveland ,Ohio

    Hillary PILLORIES Palin!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  142. Robert in Tucson

    Palin, and the Right, lay in shambles and disgrace after eight years of rule by Bush, Cheney and the Radical Right. The evidence is before us everywhere, but will be never better displayed than tomorrow as US voters soundly rejects the hatred, incompetence and deviciveness of the Republican party. Palin is likely the last of the culture war figures. Good riddance!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  143. Charla in De Kalb, Texas

    Hillary, hands down. Palin doesn't fool us now.....and we won't be fooled in the future, either.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  144. Real K / Omaha, NE

    Palin's time in a exce position is some history. It can't compare with Hilary's history in the Senate and 8yrs IN the
    Whitehouse. That is here and now. 4 to 8 yrs from now who knows what mistakes or convictions (in Palin's case) they would have. Would age be an issue for Sen Clinton then. Maybe Palin would've done well...I doubt it, Clinton by KO 2nd round.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  145. Mary

    Plain isn't qualified to answer a prank call she is so naive. Maybe in 2060.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  146. Kevin, Chester Springs PA

    Mud. Jello. Or just a plain ol'd cat fight. Palin wouldn't know what hit her. I'd take Hillary in the first round.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  147. Jerry Foster

    It's all according to the rules of the fight. If manipulation, lying, misrepresentation, unethical actions and foreign infleuence are all permitted there is only one clear winner that would be Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  148. Joseph

    Hi Jack,

    Is this a trick question or you have some advance inside information, about the final results? Some people might be thinking that, why would republicans nominate Palin in 2012. But, we very well know that if they can vote for Bush twice, they can nominate Palin, at least once. I think the 2012 race will be between President Obama and Princess Palin.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  149. Elizabeth in NC

    You are so funny Jack,
    Hillary of course. Palin has cheated Alaska and now they know all about it. Where are her medical records? All those who spoke out about her should watch their back... She lies she cheats and she steals.....

    November 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  150. Randy from PA

    Obama is going to win so Hillary wouldn't run until 2016. But Hillary would cream her.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  151. Bert K.

    Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin both have a record of being able to make statements againt their opponents that are beyond negative and outright nasty. The comedy shows would have great fun with it in a 2012 cat/mud-fight. Having that in common would therefore direct the focus on which one would most be able to attrach the most votes from the center. In a race between Sarah the "Cocky Marn" from Alaska and Hillary the U.S. Senator, and former First Lady, the center vote would go to Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:28 pm |
  152. Frank from Peterborough

    Jack that's not a fair question as Hillary would have the backing of the Democratic Party whereas Sara wouldn't have any party backing her since the Republican Party is disintegrating and will just be a trivial pursuit question by 2012.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:28 pm |
  153. Shirley A Whyte

    I think that Palin will go back to Alaska never to be heard of again. I don't think the Alaska people will vote her back in for Govenor now they know how stupid and greedy she is.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:28 pm |
  154. Yun Choi, Ph.D.


    Are you kidding me? It will only happen if McCain wins this election and if Palin can get nominated in 2012 by Republicans, which is unlikely. After all, not all Republicans are Joe, the Plumber. Quite contrary to what people believe, there are many Republicans who can read and write and even think for themselves.

    If it does happen, Palin will definitely win if it's a hunting contest or dance contest doing the "push", or who can have more kids.

    If you are referring to anything which requires brain activity, there will be no contest. Why would you want to put a brain-dead child in a ring with Muhammed Ali? Do you want a Circus?

    November 3, 2008 at 2:29 pm |
  155. teesha mtl

    Jack ,is this is a question,,, really

    November 3, 2008 at 2:29 pm |
  156. Patricia F Pine Plains NY

    Obama will be running for this 2nd term in '12, so Hillary will not be contesting him. Now in '16, Hillary may be considered a bit too old, much like McCain is now, but i bet she'll still have her brain and personality. Nothing Palin could do against her, even if Hillary is in her late 60's.

    You know what they say, smart people gain more knowledge with age and dumb people only get dumber.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  157. Jay

    Jack all day if I have to . Jack here is a question for you I understand that John McCain was in hotel Hannoy , however he was not the only one there , with that being said ( what does this have to do with being tested for what ever crisis may come up ). To me He (John McCain has already shown his readiness in his arritic behavior during the Wall street melt down and his thought the fundamentals of the economy are strong , what does this say about him being President well I guess we will be back to horse and buggy , and job loss well we already know that answer I am curious will there be a Middle Class in a John McCain Presidency and he voted Bush 90% of the time and the the economy is now either you are rich or you are poor . Jack , I do beleive America has had enough .

    November 3, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  158. George

    By next election the name Palin will not even be mentioned, and if the Alaskan law does it's job she may have to get a parole in order to run. She can have Sen. Stevens run as her cell mate

    November 3, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  159. June W

    I think Obama will be a two term President if he wins. I don't think either Hillary or Sarah have a chance after 8 years. The fact is, if I'm correct about Obama being a two term President, it will be bacause the electorate have moved away from the extremist views of the Palin Republicans and Hillary will be viewed as too old.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  160. Sue in PA

    Sen. Clinton hands down!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm |
  161. Domenic from Montreal, Canada

    Hillary by a landslide!

    Palin shouldn't even consider it. What a bim bow!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm |
  162. Jason, Koloa, HI

    Michelle Obama will beat them both.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm |
  163. steve in Pensacola

    I think Clinton would beat Palin in a landslide. In truth, I don't think Palin has been truly completely vetted even at this point in time. She has so many "gates" under wraps, she may even have created an all new category of "Gate-gate". She's way too radical..............

    November 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm |
  164. Mz Leah


    November 3, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  165. John, Fort Collins, CO

    In 2012, Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin will have to be on "Desparate Housewives" to have any kind of fight. Barack Obama will already be a shoe in for re-election which won't involve either one of them.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  166. Susan from Georgia

    You are kidding aren't you Jack? Palin is not fit to shine Hillary's shoes, must less be a candidate against her. Hillary would cleane her clock in less than one hour!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  167. Jackson

    Seeing as how McCain was putting up a good fight against Obama until he picked Palin as his running mate, I don't think Palin is going to win against anybody in 2012.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  168. Richard McKinney, Texas

    That depends on how the next president does and what party they are.
    Right now people are afraid of the republicans because of Bush. If Obama wins and screws things up then the democrats will find it hard to get Clinton elected should she run next term. Palin would then find it a cake walk to win.
    In other words Jack it isn't so much about what the candidates will do in an election but what the candidates predecessor has done before them.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  169. C in Belen, New Mexico

    The question is based on assuming that Senator McCain wins tomorrow. If that is the case and if it is another election decided by the Suprime Court, I doubt if there will be much of a country left in 2012......

    November 3, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  170. Charlie (Bethpage, NY)

    A "psychic" on a TV show I saw the other day said "three women" will be running in 2012....why is everyone leaving out Obama if he wins tomorrow? Makes me worried that something is going to happen to him.....

    November 3, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  171. Helen from Missouri

    Hilary Clinton, hands down.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  172. Rosalynd Florida

    Clinton, obviously. Palin is not qualified and does not hold a candle to Hillary Clinton.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:37 pm |
  173. Jane (Minnesota)

    I would hope that Obama would be looking toward a second term in 2012. If Hillary Clinton would somehow be pitted against Sarah Palin – it would be HUGE advantage to Clinton!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  174. Teasha, Florida

    It depends if the country wants to have a beer or affordable health care.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  175. Gene, Herrisburg, Pa

    Hillary Clinton! Pallin is a phony from the word go. Just listened to her at lunchtime– and a what lies. She should be in jail. What was McCain thinking? I hope my fellow Pennsylvanians are smart enough to NOT VOTE for the McCain/Faillin tickett –EVER!!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
  176. g ontario

    biden will step down obama/clinton 2012

    November 3, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  177. Curt W

    Well Jack this is the very reason McCain needs to win this election so we can put Hillary in the White House in 2012. Funny how these 2 candidates are using her ideas for economic recovery. Specifically the mortgage moratorium and the renegotiating of mortgages, both her ideas, and each one chosen per candidate. We really blew it this election.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  178. Roger from Espanola N.M.

    One can only hope that Barack Obamas presidency will have indeed brought those changes to ensure reelection. If McCain should win, I believe the country will be ready for revolutionary change and demand intelligence rather than right wing conservative beliefs and rhetoric. The prospect of Sarah Palin as a world leader is freightening indeed!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  179. A. Brown

    it's a slap in the face to Hillary to ask this question. I truly believe if it was foreseeable that Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin were going to run against each other, Hillary Clinton would tutor Sarah Palin for the next four years just so she wouldn't disgrace women any more than she already has in this election. It would actually be a good reality show to see Hillary Clinton school Palin on politics, ethics, basic biology, and maybe a few supreme court cases to site during interview. Palin is a joke.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  180. Mike, Albuquerque, NM

    Oprah will beat them both.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  181. Rubin from St. Louis

    This would be my dream come true, Jack! Clinton would be swept into office.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  182. John in Arizona

    Jack, Clinton has what the pundits call "gravitas." Palin does not, and never will. But it's a moot point. 2012 will be a landslide election for a second term for President Obama.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  183. Christine, Upstate NY

    2012? Are you suggesting that we'll have to endure another Obama/Clinton fight for the nomination? How painful. I'm ignoring the part of your question that suggests a Palin candidacy. Painful is one thing; insane is quite another.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:45 pm |
  184. Hannah

    I don't see how this could work. Would Hillary compete for the Republican party's nomination to challenge the incumbent Obama? I think not.

    I'll pretend that you meant 2016 and answer accordingly. Hillary Clinton wins hands down!! Palin would be laughed off of the stage. I at least have a shred of respect for Hillary... I have NONE for Palin. She is dishonest, insulting, pompous, selfish, and simple-minded.

    I personally hope to never see the two of them go head to head...talk about a nasty campaign! Palin would be reduced to just spewing anything negative she'd ever heard about Hillary and Bill, the Democrats, and maybe even people from Arkansas (regardless of how insane or deceitful). Hillary would have to bite off her tongue just to keep from spewing out the negativity about Palin that we'd all be screaming. Yikes!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:45 pm |
  185. Chris from Atlanta

    Palin would lose in 2012 to the incumbent, or anyone else. I doubt Hillary will run again.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:45 pm |
  186. jolaine

    Hillary, she's the only one that could compete with Obama, she'd smear everyone else.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:45 pm |
  187. Kathy Glendale Heights, IL

    Please, I can't even THINK about 2012 yet! I just want to get through tomorrow and be able to say, "President Obama!"

    Thinking about even a remote possibility of Palin makes me so very ill.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:45 pm |
  188. Joe in MO

    Clinton. Palin is a doofus compared to Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:46 pm |
  189. tj TAMPA

    Neither one, Obama won't be out of office until 2016. And, who knows he may pull a Bloomberg and stay until 2020..

    November 3, 2008 at 2:46 pm |
  190. Lauri in Maryland

    Jack, this is the funniest question you've ever asked!

    Unless something dreadful happens, President Obama will be running for his second term. If Palin wants to run against him, all I can tell you is that Tina Fey will have a job for life!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  191. Bob

    What a fun race this would be. Hillary would win in a landslide. It would be like an IQ contest between Albert Einstein and one of the "Three Stooges". Take your pick, Moe, Larry or Curly.

    Bob Fleming
    Louisville, Ky

    November 3, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  192. leroy from houston

    It would be harder to decide beween good or evil!! Without a doubt, CLINTON!! And she would probably carry all 50 states!!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  193. douglas gengler

    without a doubt hillary.......... palin will find out what a pitbull with lipstick is all about if she tries to go one on one with hillary!!!

    doug in knoxville arkansas

    November 3, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  194. Tim Samoni, NJ

    Dear Jack,
    Don't worry, Obama will win again in 2012. However, if it comes to that, Senator Clinton has it hands down. She is the real deal with grit and tenacity–no handlers needed. Hillary knows how to handle the media as well as the ruthless boys' club in Washington–just ask Rudy and Barack.

    It's a shame she lost this year, but she'll no doubt have a bright future as a senior senator in a Democratically-led Senate or as a Justice on the Supreme Court.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:48 pm |
  195. Barb

    No brainer! Hillary is intelligent and very qualified. Palin has the gift of gab – is able to talk incessantly but says nothing.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:48 pm |
  196. Judy, Exeter, Calif,

    Given the national divide Palin has created for the republican party, she will have trouble running for office in the north pole. I would LOVE to see what Hillary does against Palin though.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  197. Willow, Iowa

    Unless the GOP gets back to center, I think it will be generations before the GOP will ever get in control of Washington. However, between Hillary and Palin? Hahahahahahaha. To paraphrase Rush, "Hillary can beat Palin with half her brain tied behind her back."

    November 3, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  198. Justin, San Marcos CA

    You're joking, right? McCain only picked her to get some easy Hillary supporters. Do you really think that with the real thing in the race that they'd flock to Palin again? Besides, as much as the pundits like to think Palin is a true contender in the Republican party in future elections, they're kidding themselves thinking she's anything more than just another Joe the Plumber with a 15-minute shelf life. As her popularity in Alaska plummets, I think she'll be hard pressed to even win reelection as governor in 2010. She's been forced out of the closet and I think she'll live to regret it.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  199. Geri Britt

    Jack! Is this suppose to be a trick question? Surely you can't be serious.

    Geri – Mead, OK

    November 3, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  200. Andrea New Mexico

    I would Never Vote for Palin Not now Not ever!!!! Besides I think Obama will be a two term presidant.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  201. TJ, Illinois

    As much as it pains me to say, Clinton wins easily. There is nothing inside Palin. But she sure can read off a teleprompter. But considering who we have dealt with for the past 8 years that would probably be an upgrade.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  202. Ann in NH

    Hillary is twice the stateswoman as Palin. Make that ten times and much smarter. Hillary will win.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:50 pm |
  203. Sharon for Houston

    President Barack Obama will win in 2012. Give us a harder question next time Jack.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:50 pm |
  204. Axl in Iowa

    Why do I feel like since the end of Clinton's terms, Americans are being massaged and conditioned into realizing or accepting a female in the white house? HHMMMM?? Clinton vs. Palin 2012. Imagine that. Guess the world as we know it will be coming to an end in 2012 after all.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:51 pm |
  205. Terry from North Carolina

    I couldnt even guess on this one, because if this ever happens I will be living in another country.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:51 pm |
  206. jolaine

    you did mean an election right? Hillary would beat sarah any way. She just seems alot scrappier than the beauty queen.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:51 pm |
  207. JERRY, Illinois

    By 2012 Sarah Palin will be a Grandma 4 times and too busy

    to even run the Moose Jaw saloon or the consignment shop

    in Alaska.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:52 pm |
  208. roger dowdle lockhart, tx

    In 2012 hillary won't be running against Obama! The election will be between Obama and whatever sacrificial critter the repubs throw under the bus. In 2016 I can't believe anyone would be foolish enough to run Palin as their candidate! Bevis or buthead would have a better chance!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:53 pm |
  209. Amy

    If Palin is the GOP candidate in 2012, I think that will be the beginning of the end for the party. It will have swung too far to the right on social issues and will be unable to compete for the center. And, since when do the Republicans so wholeheartedly embrace mediocrity? Oh, since GW Bush...

    Hilary, for sure.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:53 pm |
  210. Greg

    Palin in 2012? One thing I have learned about Republicans over the years is that they are quick learners. You would have thought that after Nixon, they would have been over as a party. But they came back strong. After Hoover, they came back. After Reaganomics failed and Clinton had to clean it all up, they came back. If Democrats do not realize the Republican ability to regroup and strike back, they are kidding themselves. After tomorrow, they will do the same. And they definitely will not be stupid enough to put Palin on any ticket. She is a losing cause for the party – and they know it. So Obama will be challenged by someone with appeal, but who is politically formidable.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:53 pm |
  211. tj TAMPA

    Thats like saying who would win the NFL Super Bowl. The Alaskan Eskimos "Pailin" or The NY Giants "Hillary". I Forgot, the Eskimos are a pee wee league team and not in the same league..

    November 3, 2008 at 2:54 pm |
  212. Tina from Mid-Michigan

    Clinton would win, because, with two women at the top ticket position, the campaigns would not have to exert so much time and energy trying not to appear sexist. This would allow the election to be about policy, experience, character and judgement, four areas that heavily favor Clinton.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:54 pm |
  213. Jeff in Connecticut

    Palin will find some way to self-destruct by then, and Hillary won't run against Barack again, so neither one Jack.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:54 pm |
  214. Barara in Selma OR

    Obama will more than likely run in 2012 and it will depend on the RNC as to who will run against him. Now 2016 is another story, if Palen runs against Hillary, my vote is for Hillary. Palen has proved herself to be a liar, cheat and dirty politician.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:54 pm |
  215. Linda in Florida

    In 2012, I hope it is Obama vs whomever.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:55 pm |
  216. Dan from Kitchener

    Well Jack I betcha when Sara gets one of them nomination thingies she will be able to you bring down the unemployment rate while watching them Russians you know how they fly all around donya think so Jack.

    You betcha Sara will be one of them thar presidents you know what I mean Jack.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:55 pm |
  217. Happy in Arizona

    I'm not a Hillary fan but would vote for her over Palin. God forbid Palin from running in any election. As far as I am concerned, Sarah stay in Alaska. Alaska needs Governor Todd

    November 3, 2008 at 2:56 pm |
  218. F Machado - Connecticut

    Let's think about 2016 because 2012 Obama, if he get over this mess that the country is now will get a second term.
    Then 2016, if Hillary and Palin are to be the candidates, Hillary would win it easy.
    Or do you think if Hillary was running now she would not put salt in all McCain wounds. She would use the Kitterman case and people would one who McCai really is.

    Go Obama!

    November 3, 2008 at 2:57 pm |
  219. Janis, Lafayette, IN

    Without a doubt, the most respected woman in politics today, Hillary Clinton. Our respect for her has been earned by her through her hard work and dedication to this country. Sarah Palin has ridden in on the coattails of those who have yet to earn our respect.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:58 pm |
  220. Lorenzo in Atlanta

    Palin is such a joke. I've never heard of a radio station calling Hillary and pranking her like they did Palin. Even when they said 'Nailin' Palin" she should have gotten a clue that something was wrong, but this lady with the IQ of her shoe size, let it continue. She's such an idiot.

    November 3, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  221. Victoria

    Please don't joke.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:00 pm |
  222. Lucas in Pawling, NY

    Never mind that, what about Chelsea v. Bristol 2020?
    Clinton hands down, the Palin name will be stained for a while.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:01 pm |
  223. Jerry from Jacksonville

    Not even close, Clinton by two to one

    November 3, 2008 at 3:01 pm |
  224. Shannon

    There wont be because Obama will win this election!!!!!!!
    But Clinton would win hand down!!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:01 pm |
  225. Tripp, Dallas, TX

    Jack, after what we've seen, Sarah Palin wouldn't beat Joe the Plumber much less Hillary. She did prove herself to be a female pit bull during this campaign though.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:02 pm |
  226. Richard, Enoch, Utah

    Clinton hands down!!!!! I don't believe Gov. Palin would be that stupid to try this again, unless she stays completely away from the media from now to the end of the race!!!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  227. Nelson

    If these two are the best we have to offer in 2012, then it doesn't matter who wins, America is going to lose. And we deserve what we get.

    Somerdale, NJ

    November 3, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  228. Rick from Murfreesboro, TN

    Senator Clinton by a wide margin. Despite the large number of Clinton haters out there there are also a large number of Clinton lovers. Also, as we have seen during this campaign, moderate Republicans shun Palin like the plague.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  229. Byron

    well first question should be.. would the Democratic party even nominate Hillary? I mean with a democratic ex president who is turning out to be a star, would they pick an old choice? (In the answering of this question I am assuming Obama will win)

    THEN, even if they did pick Hillary, the Republican party would have to pick Palin. I personally think it's unlikely.

    but lets assume the question is valid, probably Hillary? After the changes that Obama will have implemented... there will be little left for Hillary to change, or run on. Palin would offer lots of changes for the conservatives, but unless she does a lot of thinking about what she thinks of the issues that will exist in 2012, its unlikely that her uninformed views would win over enough people to win even against Hillary. .. I would probably vote for Nader. ha!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  230. Marty

    As part of the sisterhood of the traveling pantsuit, I would choose Hillary by a landslide.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:04 pm |
  231. Darla (Edmonton, Canada)

    Jack ... Sarah Palin wouldn't even make it through the first Republican primary or even the first Republican debate! Think back to when all the original candidates were lined up on the stage for the first debate ... I don't think any of those guys would have put up with her winking, flirting and "mavericky-ness" for too long.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
  232. Dbrown, California

    Jack, are you kidding me? Palin won't even win over Tina Fey if they were the only two candidates left. Fey would win by a landslide! You should poll that.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
  233. Gary - Woodhaven, Michigan

    Let's see, substance over simplicity, wisdom over whimsical, respect over reprehension, intelligence over ignorance. There are some things Palin cannot practice or be taught. Pretty easy question today Jack, Hillary.

    But neither will get the opportunity to run against each other until 2016 as Obama will hopefully go two terms.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
  234. Bonnie

    Jack, unless Sarah Palin shows up in four years with a short afro,
    impeccable cut suit and tie, declaring "YES WE CAN", I don't think she
    has much of a chance.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
  235. Marge in New Port Richey, Florida

    Jack, first of all, that contest won't be happening until 2016 because after Obama wins by a landslide tomorrow, he'll be re-elected in 2012 no matter who the Republicans run against him. And then in 2016, the country will be in such better shape than it is now that the public wouldn't dream of putting a Republican back in office. The fact that Hillary's so much stronger a candidate will only be icing on the cake. She'll make mincemeat out of Palin.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:07 pm |
  236. LM of Fayetteville

    NO QUESTION! Clinton is smart plus understands the functions of our Government. Palin would be lost again and completely out of her element.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:08 pm |
  237. Paul S. Columbia, SC

    Better wait and see. Hillary may be the next Ambassador to Bosnia.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:08 pm |
  238. Jim McCormack

    Thanks, Jack! As a fellow Irishman, I like a good laugh. Hillary would kick the snot outta that little piece of Alaskan tundra! However, I believe Hillary will be firmly settled in at her office as a Supreme Court justice well before 2012. As the song goes...wouldn't it be loveryly?

    November 3, 2008 at 3:10 pm |
  239. Beth

    I wouldn't vote for either one. In fact I'd probably leave the country... no I'm not kidding.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:10 pm |
  240. voter in Kansas

    On what planet are Hillary and Palin going to be running against each other in 2012? Not this one. Not ever. Has this election deranged your head?

    November 3, 2008 at 3:11 pm |
  241. Steve

    OMG!!!!!! Don't even start this or even joke about it.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:11 pm |
  242. Ed Reed

    I'm hoping Obama will still be in office and if not him, then Biden. If it gets down to Clinton vs. Palin, I'll be rooting for arrogance over ignorance.

    Ed Reed
    Port Aransas, TX
    The Real America

    November 3, 2008 at 3:11 pm |
  243. MIKE chicago

    Hillary might run to continue a good Dem plocy in 2016 I know for sure she wont run in 2012...As for Palin she already sees now clearly that the best shot she has now is with Mr Maverick...GOP doesnt have any other maverick left. So she wont ever be contending any higher office in future.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  244. Sandy


    November 3, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  245. Elaina

    Palin has been exposed for who she really is and she will be out of a job in politics PERIOD. Even Alaska will reject her now that they are aware of her tactics and fraud. Besides, Obama will be in until 2016, and it will be impossible to say what will happen to the republican party by then. Hopefully it will be replaced with a party that represents the people.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  246. Steve of Hohenwald TN.

    Palin will be just as stupid in 2012, just 4 years older.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:14 pm |
  247. Yolanda N.C.

    Hillary Rodham Clinton would win!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:14 pm |
  248. dee in dallas, tx

    Hillary...was this a joke?

    November 3, 2008 at 3:15 pm |
  249. kathleen , san juan

    It all depends.
    Do you think Sarah Palin will release her medical records by then?

    November 3, 2008 at 3:17 pm |
  250. Brian from Fort Mill, SC

    Clinton by a landslide. It would be Hillary's sniper fire against the moose hunter. All Hillary has to do is aim for the glasses!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:17 pm |
  251. Melanie, Germany

    Hillary Clinton, hands down! Palin is the saddest thing in Politics...

    November 3, 2008 at 3:29 pm |
  252. JW Georgia

    Ick. That's like asking me if I'd rather have a bloody nose or a black eye. Hillary would win if the voters were paying attention mostly to smarts. But a Clinton win would be a net loss for the country. Time to look ahead, not backwards.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:29 pm |
  253. Donald in CA

    No contest, Hilliary IS qualified to be president.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:29 pm |
  254. Lauren Phoenix Az.

    Clinton hands down. The country is moving farther and farther from the right and more towards the middle. Palin is firmly entrenched in the far right. She would appeal greatly to the Republican base but her influence with Democrats and Independents is so weak that it makes a viable run for the White House nearly impossible. Which also explains the divide of the GOP when discussing her future in the party. Many Republicans recognize that she is the past of the party but not it's future. The GOP is going to have to change if they wish to remain relevant in the changing demographic of America.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:30 pm |
  255. Elle from Pullman, WA

    Who would win? Women.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:30 pm |
  256. Steve Peach - Indiana

    Hillary would. While Sarah Palin would be "getting all Mavericky" once again, Hillary would clean her clock with the issues facing Americans today. By the time Hillary was done with her, Palin would be clubbing baby seals just so she could say that she beat "something" in 2012!


    November 3, 2008 at 3:30 pm |
  257. Bruce, Georgia

    If Obama messes up that bad, The Republicans win in 2012.

    Sure hope they would find someone to run for president that isn't intellectually challenged for a change.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:32 pm |
  258. Barb New Port Richey Fl

    20012? Sarah who? Don't even go there Jack!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:33 pm |
  259. Mick Hamden CT

    C'mon, Jack! It's not going to happen. But, if it did, Clinton would win in a bigger landslide than Obama will have tomorrow, maybe 49 states to 1 (Alaska).

    November 3, 2008 at 3:34 pm |
  260. Kim, Dodge City, Kansas

    Hillary would wipe the floor with Palin. Sarah Palin will never be in the same league with Clinton, or with any 'real' politician for that matter. Let us all pray we have seen the last of the "Yokel from the Yukon".

    November 3, 2008 at 3:35 pm |
  261. mike, ohio

    Hillary. She’s got depth, knowledge and foreign policy experience. Sarah Palin is shallow, inexperienced and she can see Russia from her house. It would be a no brainer!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:35 pm |
  262. Ross from Redlands, CA

    Hillary and Palin in a Debate? Hmmmm let me see.

    Hillary would clean her clock – period.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:35 pm |
  263. Cynthia

    That's a no brainer, with Palin's approval code the way that it is, and by "Looking over and seeing Russia", and don't for get "The VP role is being in charge of the Senate," who would want this WHACKJOB! to be in charge? Under no circumstance Hillary will kill her!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  264. Bob D, Morristown, NJ

    Your question presupposes that Palin could get her party's nomination. I think "Joe the plumber" has a better chance. He's a much smarter ignoramus.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  265. Ginger H -- West Melbourne, FL

    Is this a trick question? If Palin were to beat Clinton, I would renounce my citizenship and move to Antarctica and swear I never once lived here.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  266. Tiff of Lithia Springs


    You are funny! Someone sent me her (Palin's) education credentials! And I will be applying for the VP position next go round!
    It absolutely infuriates me that people think that women has any creditials to run for any thing. I think that Alaska voters buried their heads in a fish hole.

    What happen to our country that prided itself on excellence in education, common sense and family decency.

    If Malia, Sasha or Chelsea for that matter had come up pregnant Barack would have never had a chance to get this far. The GOP would have accused him and his family of not having family values!!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  267. Carlos Harrisburg PA

    Hello Jack.
    Well who do you think for sure Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  268. Michelle- PAburbia

    Come on Jack, Hillary or Caribou Barbie? Hillary, duh!!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  269. Ann from Atlanta, TX

    Are you joking? Is that a real question?

    I hope after tomorrow night Palin goes back to Alaska and we never hear from her again. What a joke!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  270. Marti

    Clinton has my vote! She's classy and has a lot more experience.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  271. Robert Prescott


    You're a glutton for punishment. That said, were your scenario to develop it would be Hillary over Sarah by a hard knockout within 7 seconds of the first round. No disrespect intended but let's get real. Sarah Palin can't do so much as iron Hillary's pantsuits.

    North Port, Florida

    November 3, 2008 at 3:46 pm |
  272. Deb Minnesota


    November 3, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  273. Robin From MO

    Jack, Obama will go on to his second term. As for who would win between Hillary and Palin, ha ha ha. Palin isn't fit to clean Hillary's toilet. You are talking greatness vs. nothing special.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  274. tom, toronto, canada

    Seriously? Not even close, hilary wipes the floor with her. That said, for the sake of the country, I hope the GOP comes up with someone of substance and skill, rather than a smug right-wing shill, to represent their interests in 2012 versus President Barack Obama.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  275. Jim/Greensboro

    I don't know what the outcome would be for Clinton vs. Palin. What I do know is that if Obama wins tomorrow, he will be a long shot for 2012. He will make mistakes because of his character, zero experience in foreign affairs, nutty economic ideas and tax policies. God help us all.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  276. Mark, Warwick RI


    Have you heard the two of them speak? Governor Palin is regularly saying things so outlandish that her own party reacts negatively, while Senator Clinton managed a massive upset in the NH primary with two lines in a debate.

    Not only would Senator Clinton win in such a scenario, she would likely wipe the floor with the Governor so badly that the Republican party would need a new name to distance themselves from the mess.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  277. Gerlen

    This takes no thought process.
    In Hillary you have brains versus ?

    November 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  278. Terry Boyd

    Jack I'm not a prophet, but,
    the way I see it.........Obama wins 08, selects Hillary as his Sec of State; four years later the national debt left by Bush is too much for Obama to deal with and America is displeased. Bill tells Hillary "it's time to make your move now". With the title and experience of Sec of State under her belt, and time served as a Senator, the party would be over. Hillary would be the true political total package! Stick Palin with a fork and turn her over....she would be done, well done!

    Enterprise, AL

    November 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  279. Karen, Atlanta GA

    Jack- Is this a joke? They are like the cartoon series Pinky and the Brain. Of course, Brain is Hillary and Pinky is Palin.

    Geesh! Is this a trick question? Hillary would definitely be able to take over the world and Palin, oh well is just Palin.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  280. scotty

    Palin, right wingers to the contrary, will never be able to withstand the scrutiny that will be placed on her husband during a national campaign. Not only is he a registered (not rumored) dues paying member of a secessionist movement that preaches Alaska leaving the USA, but nobody yet has covered how deeply Mr. Palin trades on his wife and involves himself in the matters of government in Alaska.
    This clown (Mr. Palin) anywhere NEAR nuclear launch codes would even make Cheney blanch.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  281. Al of Philadelphia

    Palin is in the mix because of Hillary. Why would I settle for the watered down substitute and not the more qulified original.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  282. Michelle, Berwick, PA

    Is this a real question, Jack? Please tell me you're joking. McCain thought Palin was a substitute for Hillary, and the female voters he offended with that little scheme will be a big reason he gets his clock cleaned tomorrow. Hillary would mop the floor with her, you betcha!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  283. ajks

    Hillary, hands down. Hillary has the intelligence that Sarah lacks.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  284. deb albany, ny

    Clinton, Wasn't a big Hillary fan the first time around but watching Sarah Palin has given me a new appreciation of her.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  285. sam from queen creek, arizona

    Clinton hands down! Not even a contest! It was good laugh for the day!Thanks Jack! But, I am planning to see Obama in the white house for 8 years,then Clinton!!!!Palin needs to go home and take her parting gifts with her!Wink , WInk!!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  286. lisa tx


    November 3, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  287. Hope M. Madisonville, KY

    Hillary Clinton could beat Palin even on her worst day, with a
    cold, bad hair and a ripped pantsuit. Palin is a light weight
    compared to Hillary Clinton.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  288. Gia in Los Angeles, CA

    Oh, that's not even a contest, Jack. Every time Palin gets up, Hillary will just knock her right back down, where she belongs. It won't be in 2012, though, it would be in 2016, since Obama will easily serve two terms. The public may even demand that the law be changed again, so that he can run for a third term.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:51 pm |
  289. Deano

    I don't know who would win but eskimo pussy is mighty cold

    November 3, 2008 at 3:51 pm |
  290. Linda in Bisbee, AZ

    I'm not going to consider the possibility for more than a few seconds. Palin is the biggest idiot I've ever seen in my life. Don't even go there.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:51 pm |
  291. Ken Hudson Florida

    Clinton hands down.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:51 pm |
  292. Franky

    Are you serious?? Are you?? First of all, Hillary got upset in one of the biggest upsets AND Palin might be one of the biggest busts since Herbert Hoover ran for re-election...

    I'll rather watch American Idol for crying out loud...

    November 3, 2008 at 3:52 pm |
  293. Craig from Denison, Texas


    Michelle Obama will win 2012.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:53 pm |
  294. alix ny

    No contest, Hillary

    November 3, 2008 at 3:53 pm |
  295. Joe - Flint, MI

    Neither Jack because it all makes perfect sense now!

    Everybody has been scrambling for the reason the world will end according to the Mayan calendar in 2012. The Mayans are right, a sacrifice of sorts, something of unknown origin will "end time" in hopes to prevent a much bigger calamity....

    Palin running for president in 2012.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:53 pm |
  296. Jan Illinois

    Sweet. I can not wait!! Hillary will jab her eyes out with a stiletto. Palin couldn't carry her purse to a PTO meeting let alone beat her to the white House.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:54 pm |
  297. Louise, MA

    Forget the voting and all that campaigning money. Let's make that a mud-wrestling contest. My money would still be on Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:56 pm |
  298. Deano

    I don't know who would win but eskimo snatch is mighty cold

    November 3, 2008 at 3:56 pm |
  299. Leni Temple

    LIke trying to compare apples to oranges.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:57 pm |
  300. Pat

    That's a no brainer....Clinton, hands down.


    November 3, 2008 at 3:58 pm |
  301. Jane Oberg

    Silly queston – Clinton – of course

    November 3, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  302. Ruby, Kansas

    Is this a joke? Is this a real question? CLINTON HANDS DOWN!!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  303. Jamedra

    Hey Jack,

    First let me say after everything we’ve witnessed in this campaign season it’s safe to say NOTHING is off the charts anymore! Who would have EVER thought a Clinton would Loose, McCain would be the “darling” of the Republican Party, we’d have an African American and woman on BOTH major tickets; and in the words of Cornell West there would be a Vice Presidential candidate who’s background and grasp of political and government issues is “mediocre” at best.

    With all that said I STILL would put my money on Hillary over Sarah ANYDAY!

    But with this topsy-turvy political environment of late I wouldn’t be surprised if a Ralf Nader/Bob Bar ticket swept by landslide and Lieberman was appointed to secretary of state in 2012!

    Whew! SCARY!

    Hayward, CA

    November 3, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  304. Beartrack Truckee,CA

    Well this is a no question. After what the country, and Alaska too, learn more of the real Palin she will never be heard of again. However, if such a match up did happen Clinton would smack down that fool so fast she, Palin, wouldn't know what hit her.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  305. Tom - Las Vegas, Nevada

    Clinton would win it assuming she overhauls her campaign team. With the Democratic primary dragging on forever she was able to establish footholds in every state and the Democratic rolls are fat with new registrants. On the Palin side she will inherit a party in disarray looking for an identity and she will be lucky if McCain even tells her who his donors were after this is all over.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  306. Mary, Philadelphia PA

    Is this a question or is it a joke? It wouldn't even be a contest. Hillary Clinton would win hands down. However, I think Obama will be in office two terms.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  307. Ben from Atlanta

    Jack are you for real? haha Palin running against Hillary, that would be kinda funny actually.
    Let's just say Hillary would kinda win.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  308. Ed in Arizona

    In 2012, in 2016, no matter which, S. Palin will still be employed working with a chain saw to cut Alaska loose from North America so it can better try to become an independent country. Hack, Sarah, hack.

    November 3, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  309. jamie

    I'd LOVE to think Hillary, but the scary, no horrifying, thing is, is that this election is even as close as it is. I mean, seriously, Palin?

    I saw a guy yesterday at breakfast whose t-shirt read, "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."

    And so we shall.....

    November 3, 2008 at 4:00 pm |
  310. Mari Fernandez, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Actually, Jack, in 2012, Sen. Obama will be running for re-election!

    So, Obama would beat Palin in a landslide.

    Who would vote for a woman who would "think" that Sarchozy would actually be on the phone??????????? NUTS.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:00 pm |
  311. Doug - Dallas

    Hillary would run circles around Palin and leave her wondering what happened. It's not a fair comparison; Hillary has the experience and the brains and while Palin gives good speeches, she is one step above a stump!!

    November 3, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  312. Andrew

    Without question Hillary.. Palin is done

    November 3, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  313. Debora I from Nauvoo, IL

    I guess this is our light moment for the day. Hillary would eat her for breakfast. Really? I doubt Caribou Barbi will last more than a month or two after she's defeated. Aren't they going to recall her in Alaska on several ethics charges?

    November 3, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  314. PC from Atlanta

    Hillary would win in a walk... through sniper fire.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  315. David

    are you kidding me, that's like comparing a T-Bone Steak to Spam.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:02 pm |
  316. JB Home

    Good bye Beth!!! It's women like you who have held the rest down ,get your head out of your oven and get a life!!! Any woman who would not vote for another woman for her daughters or grand daughters future needs her head examined.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:02 pm |
  317. Jack Hunsucker (Oklahoma)

    In a battle of substance over void, I would say without hesitation that the substance that Clinton would bring to the race.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:02 pm |
  318. KEN


    November 3, 2008 at 4:02 pm |
  319. Lesa from Jackson TN

    Hillary will beat Palin anyday, even in 2012. But if Obama decides to run again, neither lady will get my vote.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm |
  320. Debora I from Nauvoo, IL

    I guess this is our light moment for the day. Hillary would eat her for breakfast. Really? I doubt Caribou Barbi will last more than a month or two after she's gone back to Alaska anyway, aren't they going to impeach her on several more ethics charges?

    November 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm |
  321. Louise L.Gallone

    That race would really test the intellectual capacity of the American electorate. Hopefully, they would choose Hillary

    Louise IN

    November 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm |
  322. DARLENE, VA

    Hillary would'nt have to tip toe around Palin and her 'Palinisms'. Hillary would call Palin out on every issue and expose her on her many inabilities......

    November 3, 2008 at 4:03 pm |
  323. Beartrack Truckee,CA

    If the Republican party is smart, no one that you hear from now will be around by 2012. The current thugs that lead this outfit will be thrown under the bus, off the train, over the cliff, anything to get rid of them.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:04 pm |
  324. Jenny from Nanuet, New York

    It'll never happen. If McCain somehow wins, Palin won't run and if Obama wins, Clinton won't run.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:04 pm |
  325. Sherrol in Canada

    Hillary – Hands down!!

    November 3, 2008 at 4:04 pm |
  326. mary CT

    What an embarassingly sexist crew on your blog....

    November 3, 2008 at 4:05 pm |
  327. Chuck B Coastal NC

    Is this a joke ??? This would not be a contest..... Hillary of course. Palin will be in jail for mis-use of federal and state funds.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:05 pm |
  328. Jack

    Your question is a joke, right? Any rational person couldn't possibly think Sarah Palin's presidential qualifications are equal to Hillary's. There's simply no comparison. Palin is a self-serving elitist diva..

    November 3, 2008 at 4:05 pm |
  329. Maggie Muggins From Selwyn

    If them thar gotcha journalists don't ask them there hard questions like what Sara reads when them liberal leaning ones know durn well the first page ripped off'n a magazine or paper in the outhouse is the front page so most of the time Sara wouldn't know what see was readin'.

    Also if Sara don't have one of them old confused guys runnin' with her that don't know where the Eye Rackee border is then I betcha Sara does okay by golly.

    Ya know Jack Sara was speakin with the President of France who called her at home tother night by golly and no other person has had that happen to them.

    Sara will also show them thar Eye Rainees real power when she tells 'em she can see Russia from her house and they are her seal huntin friends you betcha Jack.

    Knowin all this and that Hillary don't even know how to skin a moose then I betcha Sara and Joe the plumber beats them in 2012.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:06 pm |
  330. anita

    Hillary of course. Palin may think she all that, but put her up against Hillary and she would be fed to the dogs as dog meat. Palin wouldn't have a chance. And if she had any brains at all, she wouldn't even try.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:06 pm |
  331. Bill from Madison Heights, Mi

    Hopefully Hillary. A Palin victory would only mean a victory for all the fruit cakes.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:06 pm |
  332. Darren

    We've all seen Sarah Palin's true colors and if she's the Great White Hope of the Republican Party, they are really in trouble.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:07 pm |
  333. Dan, Maryland

    Is this another joke? It has to be...you're comparing someone who has decades of experience in equality, law, legislating, policy agendas and the respect of millions of Americans regardless of party affiliation. Then you have a first term governor and one time mayor of one of the least populust states in the country who doesn't understand foreign policy, fiscal policy, education policy, healthcare policy, or let's face it, domestic policy in general. No contest Jack.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:07 pm |
  334. Eleanora Feucht, Mt. Laurel, N.J.

    That's a no-brainer. Palin is a farce whereas Hillary is a very intelligent woman and a true patriot. Look at how hard both she and her husband have worked for Obama. I don't think any other losing candidate has ever done that.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:09 pm |
  335. Pat from New Jersey

    Clinton all the way.......................

    November 3, 2008 at 4:10 pm |
  336. Haime, Washington DC

    Who ever wins; the match between Hillary and Palin won't be possible in 2012. Of course unless McCain wins and serves only one term. But it will be the match of the century to see that happen, Hillary will tare Palin apart and send her back to Alaska forever.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:10 pm |
  337. Alabama Angel

    Hillary would feed Palin to a moose. Which, when you think about it, would be righteous Karma. Palin is a right-wing Barbie doll - and I strongly suspect the fact that she doesn't divulge her medical records indicates that she may have had an abortion. What else could she possibly be hiding, if not that? It has to be something that would destroy her right-wing evangelical image. Hillary is the real thing –, not a national joke on SNL - and even there, her character looks aghast at Tina Fey.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:12 pm |


    November 3, 2008 at 4:16 pm |
  339. Cookie in DE


    The only people who honestly believe Sarah Palin could defeat Hillary Clinton are about as idiotic as the former.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:16 pm |
  340. Dee in Florida


    The one with the BRAIN would win, hands down!

    November 3, 2008 at 4:16 pm |
  341. Keira

    Sarah Palin doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Hillary Clinton. Hillary has brain, moxy and knows how to play the game. Sexy Sarah has none of those things. Hillary hands down!

    November 3, 2008 at 4:16 pm |
  342. kelly from SP

    Palin has been nothing but negative news, she won't stand a chance in the primary. Aside she would have to read alot something she don't do. Most Americans are impressed with brains not beauty.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:17 pm |
  343. Sarah Louise

    That's like putting a thoroughbred against a donkey in the kentucky derby.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:17 pm |
  344. Karen - TN

    Clinton would win, hands down. Palin would have to participate in a real debate and she'd get eaten alive. And Palin isn't getting any younger. The corny winking and flirting won't fly in a few years.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:20 pm |
  345. Liz

    Let me see the lawyer against a Barbie. I think intelligence matters more than looks.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:38 pm |
  346. Keith

    Hillary and Sarah in 2012?
    After the first confrontation I think Sarah would be headed back to Moose Jct. with her ears and antlers pinned back and tail between her legs.

    Haslet, TX

    November 3, 2008 at 4:38 pm |
  347. nelson

    You have got to be kidding, Hillary would eat her up and spit her
    out. Hillary has class... palin has nothing but a big lying mouth.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:39 pm |
  348. Lorene from Georgia


    No contest, HILLARY

    November 3, 2008 at 4:41 pm |
  349. Christie, South Carolina

    The only one with qualifications.....Clinton!

    November 3, 2008 at 4:49 pm |
  350. J. Weidenbach, NYC

    Palin has a lot of reading up to do and so do the US American people. Neither.

    November 3, 2008 at 4:49 pm |
  351. Ruie - Michigan

    Dear Jack:

    Ah yes, a battle between Athena (Hillary Clinton) and Pandora (Pistol Packin' Palin).

    November 3, 2008 at 4:50 pm |
  352. Neico, VA

    My vote for Hillary!!! Hillary has the substance and a strong woman in her own right. Palin will not measure up, ever.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:31 pm |
  353. Mike

    Palin of course; Hillary had her chance and she was rejected.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
  354. Liz

    Easy answer: Hillary.
    I hope the Republicans aren't that crazy to pick Palin as a candidate in 2012, but I guess anything is possible.

    Liz, California

    November 3, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  355. chitowngal07

    It is very interesting to see that once Hillary is no longer on the ballot you get people rooting for her where was this support when it really counted...this includes you Jack!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  356. Hank from Norfolk, Virginia

    Hillary Clinton, far superior to Sarah Palin, would decidedly win. Palin is not even in the same league as Hillary. All wecan get from Palin is dirt, mud, sarcasm and lies.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  357. Hala Abdoun of San Francisco, CA

    Like the world hasn't laughed at us already!

    If that were every the case, Hillary by a landslide... she wouldn't even need to campaign or put out one negative ad for that matter!

    November 3, 2008 at 5:34 pm |
  358. Casey | Sebastopol, CA

    Sarah Palin – the Neiman Marxist – is morally and ethically bankrupt. She won't even have a political career after tomorrow.

    Hillary won't run again. She will be taking Ted Kennedy's place as revered senator. Obama will win in 2012, too.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:34 pm |
  359. Ray Freeman

    this is a no-brainer neither of them are gonna be president of the united states.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:35 pm |
  360. Rico Knight, Tuscaloosa Al.

    Question..Have you seen Palin's interviews? Oh My God! I dont even think that she thinks she will win! GO HILLARY!

    November 3, 2008 at 5:35 pm |
  361. Kim in Denver

    Hillary – no doubt. Palin would not stand a chance against that brain!

    November 3, 2008 at 5:45 pm |
  362. Christina, Cut N Shoot, Texas

    I like Palin very much. From Cut N Shoot, we like our guns and we love Palin. She is a great woman who shares our values.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:45 pm |
  363. Richard

    Obama would have to do a worst job than W. Bush for Palin to win.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:46 pm |
  364. Reggie From Dallas TX

    Looking at the 2 woman. You have to respect them for different features. One with gift to gab, and one with a backbone of steel You take Hillary and the backbone of steel. you always want the one who is out for us. Hillary stood by her spouse when he cheated, and Sarah cheated. Again, you take Hillary. Palin is Selfish. Great Question. Sorry for the sleezy answer.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:46 pm |
  365. Winton from Alaska

    Hillary would win but Palin, listening to her campaign speeches this year, would make it a very nasty campaign on her part. She is very good at inciting the worst out of her campaign crowds and egging them on to racist, aggressive responses.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:46 pm |
  366. Robert in PA

    Hillary would clean her clock. Palin would be like a mouse caught in the headlights.

    I meant moose caught in Hillary's headlights...don't get to use the word "moose" all that much here in my part of PA.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:47 pm |
  367. Richard

    Wouldn't a debate between those two be sweet though? Imagine the SNL spoofs on that one!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 5:48 pm |
  368. Sean - Fairbanks, Alaska

    Palin should hardly be worried about a 2012 run - she may not even have a job to come back to in AK now that the increased scrutiny on her career has revealed numerous abuses of power and ethical violations. Palin's desire to run in 2012 is nothing more than a pipe dream; she fails to see her political inevitability as a scapegoat used by the GOP to explain their loss of the 2008 election.

    However, It would be intersting to see a Hillary/Palin race simply to see which candidate women will gravitate towards. Will they vie for the intelligent and qualified candidate?, or the folksy, attractive candidate supposedly "in touch" with average America? I hope for the sake of all women, who have fought for so long to be judged on their qualifications and capabilities in the workplace, that they choose the former.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm |
  369. AspenFreePress

    Palin. Her generation will be firmly in the driver's seat by then. The boomers will be through. In fact, the way the Presidential polls look now, a member of Palin's generation, Barack Obama, will win tomorrow's election.
    Sterling Greenwood/Aspen

    November 3, 2008 at 5:52 pm |
  370. Sasha Pruett

    There would be no contest! Hillary would destroy Sarah at the polls, there is no question. It would be like watching the Patriots beat Raiders in the Superbowl.

    November 3, 2008 at 5:56 pm |
  371. James

    hilary clinton would win. sarah palin is a joke! she doesnt have enough common sense to know what color the WHITE house is let alone run it! + sarah palin has absolutely no real experience.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:19 pm |
  372. Nancy Hickman

    There is no doubt in my mind, that Hillary would slaughter Sarah.

    Look at Sarah now, she is using McCain to benefit her own future and probably cares less is McCain wins. This is all about Palin.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm |
  373. Brian in Canada

    Hillary, of course. Palin is a train wreck as far as politics go – she might do well in show business.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm |
  374. MSIG35

    I think that Hillary Clinton would put Sarah Palin in her place, especially if she went to the debate table. Hillary is the real Pit Bull with Lipstick and has a Bite to go with that loud Bark. It would be an embarrassment of a campaign for Palin I think.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm |
  375. Stanley Abiri

    C'mon Jack. Are you kidding me? Sarah Palin against Hillary Clinton in 2012? Have you seen a chihuahua fight with a Rotwiler? I believe you can tell the outcome.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm |
  376. alex vasquez

    i think hillary clinton will beat sarah palin . hillary is an extraordinary smart woman that will lead our country to a better future. sarah is not ready to leand and even if she does , she always abuse of her power thats call being a dictator. i hope Barack obama wins tomorrow so we do not have to wait another 4 more years .

    November 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm |
  377. Russ Wakefield.

    Sen. Clinton would have Gov. Palin for lunch. To pretend that Gov. Palin's knowledge and strengths are close to Sen. Clinton's is an insult – imagine exposing Gov. Palin to 18 months of campaigning rather than 70 days

    November 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm |
  378. Dylan, Lehighton

    With Sarah Palin garnering the moose vote, the Eskimo vote, the religious extremist vote, and the makeup wearing pig vote, she would get about 3% of the population. That's not enough to beat my girl Hillary.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:27 pm |
  379. Jahrue - Miami, FL

    The queen of the bridge to no where will get humiliated. After the lost she will be searching for a new career..."it's all about job creation"

    November 3, 2008 at 6:28 pm |
  380. Nicki

    That would not even be a contest. Hillary would be the clear winner. She is a smart, well-educated attorney with years of government experience, a US Senator and a seasoned campaigner.
    Sarah obviously has trouble grasping the issues and responding to interview questions. She may not even be in the running because her home state doesn't seem too happy with her ethics violations lately.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  381. RueDee

    Hillary would need to invest in a lot of brown pantsuits. And can you imagine the two in a debate? Mud vs. intellect.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  382. Theresa

    Jack, this country has past up a critical chance to have a grounded, intelligent, hard working and caring president by not nominating Hillary Clinton. I hope we won't be regretting it in the next few years, but I fear we will. The only thing Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have in common is that they are both beautiful women on the outside. Hillary, thankfully, is also beautiful on the inside! Clinton would win...hands down!
    Oh by the way....Hillary did not have a meltdown after the nomination was stolen from her through those undemocratic caucuses. She simply was very disappointed, as anyone (men, too) would have been. Stop knocking her! You are being a jerk!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  383. Wayne Lauton

    Who will win? Probably Joe Lieberman, IF he can keep up the pace running back and forth between Clinton and Palin.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  384. louve

    No doubt!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  385. Daniel DiNicola

    Hey Jack–
    Lay off Hillary Clinton. She survived losing just fine–no meltdowns. And yes thank goodness it's all over tomorrow because your Cafferty File is the most ridiculous segment CNN has ever offered it's viewers and getting worse each day. Retire already.

    PS: Hillary would win

    November 3, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  386. Erik

    First, people don't just like Clinton because they're baby boomers, they like her for her policies. I like her and I'm 25.

    Second, people don't just like Palin because she's a beauty queen (more like princess actually), they like her because she'll be able to drive their kids to 5am hockey practice when they don't feel like getting up in the morning, especially since she won't have much else going on.

    If Sarah Palin thinks she's a pitbull wearing lipstick, then Hillary Clinton is Godzilla in heels!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:29 pm |
  387. ann black

    Hillary Clinton will win. Hillary will beat Sarah so bad and by long shot.
    Hillary has more experience, better morals, more intellingent, and is not prejudice. The only reason why Hillary did not win the primary is because it is time for a Change in America.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  388. George Robling

    Hilly, Palin is too dumb, also if McCain – Palin lose the election, they can always get a job with Joe the plumber.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  389. Chinedo Irozuru

    I am willing to spend atleast five hours on the line just to cast my vote
    for Obama !!!!!!!!!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  390. Karen Ostrow

    Is this a serious question? Remember the Pepsi vs. Coke taste test? After only a taste, Pepsi won readily. But after drinking a can or more, Coke came out ahead. Palin was a bit hit with many....at first. But by now folks have had a chance for more than a taste and most of those who were high on Palin at first are sick of her. She wouldn't have a chance against Clinton.
    Karen Ostrow
    Jacksonville, FL

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  391. Juan Carlos

    i will think the best president that the US can have its the senator Barack Obama.
    in the good state of Jalisco everybody nows.
    Arriba Mexico

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  392. Mindy

    I am not a Hillary fan at all, but she would crush Palin! Could you imagine Palin trying to debate Hillary? Hillary would not have to hold back as Biden did. It would be ugly!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  393. Sarge

    Hlllary Clinton is a great woman who missed a huge opportunity and
    that is something that she will not pass up again. Sarah Palin is a
    ambitionous woman with a lot of talk and flash and little else. I see
    annother Clinton in the White House.


    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  394. Mary in Pennsylvania

    I trust that Hillary would destroy Sarah in any debate and hopefully the American voters would send Sarah back to Wasilla permanently.
    BTW Jack, you have too much time on your hands. Give us a chance to have at least one night with no robocalls. I've kept track and so far McCain is winning. I've received 37 robo calls from McCain and only 12 from Obama.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  395. Adda Porter

    I definitely say that Hillary Clinton is what we need. As an educator (teacher and principal for 35 years). I know that she has at hear our best interests in respect to children and those in need. Just go back and read her book entitled "It Takes a Village." This far different from someone who is still trying to learn how to treat a special needs child and what the working people in her own state need. Although I have been an Obama fan since I read both of his books which gave a great picture of his life and beliefs, I also have always thought that Hillary was a great option. Here's hoping that tomorrow brings the result for which I hope.
    Adda Porter
    National Distinguished Principal of 2003
    Representing Ohio

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  396. Martin from Buffalo, NY

    There is no doubt that Hillary will CRASH Palin down to pieces.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  397. Richey


    Definitely Palin, with the help of her new best friend and top advisor, Nicolas Sarkozy.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  398. anthony adoghe amsterdam

    I would not be surprised to see Palin make the mistake of running against Hilary assuming there is vacancy in 2012, but she would lose even amongst unborn americans.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  399. Heather from Montgomery, NY

    Hillary Clinton.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  400. Marty Miller

    From what I've read about Palin, it is doubtful, based on her resume that should could win a nomination. A Presidential hopefull is thoroughly investigated beginning with educational and family background and values. If we consider just education, Palin has never been a very successful student earning only average grades in High School and attending 5 or 6 colleges before finally graduating. While that might be admirable, it is hardly what Americans would want for our Commander in Chief. She lauds her "common sense"...if common sense was so rare it wouldn't be called common.

    I'd vote for Hillary...and I'm a Republican!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  401. shirley

    Hillary would win hands down. She tops Sara in brains....experience...

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  402. Shanay

    Well theres no need for that because Barack Obama will have a second term. Thought by some evils that doesnt happen Hillary would win.though i dont think Pailn would even make it past the primary.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  403. peg wagemaker

    Am i the only one who's read the whole transcript of the hearings in Alaska? Ms. Pailin should probably be in court right now defending her behavior as guv of Alaska. Besides which she's not in the same class
    as Hilary, either intellectually or ethically.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  404. Kathy, Maryland

    Oye Jack! Ganara Hillary es una Sr. con clase, preparada y muy superior a Palin.


    November 3, 2008 at 6:30 pm |
  405. Ronald Spooner

    There is still a significant number of women voters who hope Obama loses so Clinton can run in 2012. Some may even vote against Obama so that happens. Clinton could have prevented that by stating publicly that she would not seek the presidency until 2016. She did not. How Democrats would react should Obama lose for that reason may affect their enthusiasm for Clinton in 2012. Palin could win.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  406. Perentie

    One thing I have learned about Americans. They go for tough guys, sometimes even 'real bad ass not too clean guys'...as long as they have a killer punch but they NEVER go for fools that make them look like fools.
    Add another four years though to your question. Obama 2012!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  407. Thomas

    Based only on experience, Clinton has 2012 in the bag. Palin simply doesn't have the experience to be President and with her we might have another "bridge to nowhere". One thing to think about, though, would be if Condoleezza Rice decides to run in 2012. Rice vs Clinton would be a battle of two of the most powerful women in politics that this country has ever seen. That race would one for the ages.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  408. Jim in Lakeland, FL

    I shudder to think… the catfight to the top, Bill and Todd at each other’s throats, and Emmy Awards for Tina Fey and Amy Poehler. Of course, if she really, REALLY wants to win, then Hillary should learn how to shoot animals with an assault rifle – and if Sarah wants some brownie points, she won’t be caught dead in the same outfit as Hillary in their first debate.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  409. Y. Bowens

    Hillary would chew Palin up and spit her out! Palin would be a "poodle with lipstick".

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  410. Gloria in Clifton, NJ

    There's no question that governor Palin can be "groomed" for the next four years if McCain should lose. If that's the case I guess she has a good shot at it. I personally agree with the people who say that you either like her or you don't. I don't. Something's just off about her. I would totally go for Clinton in 2012 if it should come to that!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  411. Natalia, Albuquerque, NM

    Let me see - possibly the greatest female political intellectual in our country versus someone who has a brain the size of a peanut!!! And that's an insult to peanuts. Hillary would dominate the debates with her vast national and foreign policy knowledge. While, poor Sarah will have a headache trying to study the facts, instead of just making up catch phrases for fun.

    Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  412. Jeanette

    Hands down... Hillary Clinton would win. She is sharp, intelligent and has so much more experience and knowledge ...She's one tough lady! As for Sarah Palin... stick a fork in her...SHE'S DONE ....She is in no way, shape or form Presidential material. She's a big JOKE!!! She is not credible in any way... Hillary Clinton is someone you can respect & trust to know what she is talking about and you can believe in her...

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  413. Augustine Eziashi

    Jack, there is no comparison between Hillary and Sarah; it is like comparing quality and quantity. Hillary carries quality while Sarah quantifies a mouth of chewing gum filled with saliva.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  414. Desire Atem

    I do not think Hillary Clinton versus Sarah Palin will be a tough. Hillary Clinton just need some tears before election day to win while Sarah Palin need to be the six pack mum she was initially presented to be. But if they decided to be who they are told to be not what they arethen it will be tough.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  415. Melynda

    Four years wouldn't be long enough to prep Palin.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  416. Colette

    Hillary! If we do not see this match up in 2012, we will see it for sure in 2016 unless the grown ups take back the Republican Party! The 3rd grader across the street from me knew what the duties of the VP were and knew where to find them, too! If Palin runs in 2012, we will see another Goldwater-Johnson route...maybe worse! I want the best and the brightest running my country not the best packaged!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  417. Lynn - Rochester, NY

    Hillary would have Sarah for lunch and still have room for dessert.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  418. Elleon

    Why has there been no mention of Gov. Palin's affiliation with the Alaskan Independent Party. She gave a speech from the Gov.'s office welcoming them and stating she agreed with their views. Their goal is to infiltrate political offices, and palin is one of their people. If this had been Obama.....well you know what would have happened. Shame on you for now exposing this story.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  419. stefanie

    Hillary no dought she is actually intellergant and compatant something sarah palin is not and no amount of charm or catch phrase can hide that.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  420. Shaq William Ft. lauderdale

    Hilary Clinton hands down but you never know if John Mccain wins Sarah the Diva might become prsident because of an "Accident".

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  421. Russ Brewer

    Palin would ask "What exactly is the president's job?" Hillary would respond with "Don't worry about the particulars. Bring your binoculars and your wolf hunting riffle. Who needs experience with tools like those?" There isn't an option given the choice. Hillary for 2012.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  422. Cheryl

    There is no question that Hillary and her brain would win against Palin and her lipstick, (IF Palin had the guts to run against a candidate she couldn't accuse of sexism!) Also, Palin's skelatons of book banning and backing an Alaska secessionist group won't stay lurking in the background as they did this time; they will be front and center! "Sure you bet cha'!"

    November 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
  423. vyvyan

    without a doubt, Hillary. Hillary has experience, personality, style and class. She knows how to speak intellectually when asked a question by the media. You betcha, Joe six pack and dog gone it is not acceptable vocabulary for a president.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  424. Robert

    Hillary would win handily. I doubt 4 years is enough for Palin to develop a conscience to lead this country.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  425. Lynn

    Your kidding....right?

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  426. louve

    but... Obama will be back in 2012!!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  427. Ray

    With no doubt it would be Senator Clinton. Senator Clinton understands what America needs and is "in touch" with most Americans. Sarah Palin on the other hand, is too out of touch with most Americans. Sure she is a smart woman who has energized the Republican base, but she just doesn't have what it takes to hold such a high seat as President or Vice President. Her views on Energy, Global Warming, Abortion, and Science will only interfere in the forward direction that America should be moving. There also hasn't been any strong positive message in regards to Education on her part. I've only heard her state she'd help our special needs children. I have researched her past enough to know that she would have a difficult time with, "other views" on the above topics. I personally think she is too much an extreme individual and should stick with Politics at a State level where she can possibly do the best job.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  428. Tim

    That actually would be very interesting considering the venom the the Clinton name brings up in the conservative right. Add that to the energy that Governor Palin has given them and I believe that you have a very tight race it may come down to the VP picks by both . do we dare hazzard a guess!

    Tim H.
    Durham , NC

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  429. Rene

    Please!... Enough already, Palin vs Clinton? That is a no brainer. Clinton with her classs, experience, dignity, and integrity, will wipe Palin off the map and when she is through with palin, Palin would swear that she can see Russia from North Carolina. Haven't Palin made a fool of herself enough by now? Have you ever seen two women go toe to toe? Well...let me tell you, it would be like putting
    Little Richie in the ring with Mike Tyson.

    Durham, NC

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  430. Arnie

    Hillary vs Sarah? All I can see is Mike Tyson vs Michael Spinks. It lasted all of 91 seconds. I say Hillary in about the same amount of time.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  431. Derek

    Clinton vs. Palin? Hillary's only ad could be the Masked Avengers prank call. If Americans want a President who can be fooled for that long by that many absurd statements and never suspect a thing, and sound so bubbly and unstatesman like, they deserve what they get.
    Derek in NM

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  432. Susie

    Hillary probably learned in 1st grade that Russia is next to Alaska.Palin wouldn't have a prayer.
    Susie in Asheville, NC

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  433. Jim N in Central PA

    Jack – 2012, pleeeeease give us a break. I think 6 months max would be an adequate election season.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  434. Rhonda

    " If in 2012 we were lucky enough to see Clinton vs Palin
    it would be more like Beauty vs Brains. Hillary would win hands
    down. I don't think the REPUBLICANS can make enough excuses for Palin a second time around!!!!"

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  435. Angela F.

    Let's put it this way. Hillary will chew Sarah up like moose meat and spit her out ... Thanks Jack for giving me something to look forward to.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  436. Susan V.

    You could not come up with a difficult question? My three year old son could answer this question. The answer is a no-brainer; Hillary Clinton. Even if the McCain/Palin ticket wins tomorrow, and God help us all if they do, Sarah Palin is too closed-minded to gain enough knowledge to become the next president. Lets face it, Hillary Clinton has more presidential experience than McCain and Palin combined. However, if for some reason Barack Obama chose not to run for a second term, I would love to see this cat fight between the two of them.
    Susan V.
    Bradenton, Florida

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  437. Jordana

    Hillary Clinton would win it hands down!!! I Can`t see how people can think, not even for a second that Sarah Palin has the ability to run this country. What is going on in this country? Hillary Clinton has the experience and the intelligence, while Sarah Palin is just a spokes model for the so-called "maverick" of the republican party. Give me a break!!! You can take sarah Palin out of the mountains, but you can`t take the mountain out of sarah Palin!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:32 pm |
  438. Garrett Keegan

    hilary no dought she is actually intellagent and compatent
    something sarah palin is not
    hilary is more aware of world problems unlike sarah

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  439. Ramona Rudulph

    Are you kidding Jack? Hillary would show Sarah up for the flake she is. I would much rather Hilary answer the 3 am telephone call.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  440. Geri Verasco

    I guess it would depend if our country, by 2012, would finally enlightened themselves to hard core issues and solutions or would still be won over by a shallow Wink

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  441. Mike

    Palin, or Clinton???? Its an interesting topic as I believe either of the candidates running this time will not be in office in four years. George W Bush has ruined this country so far back the next president will be cleaning up his mess for the next four year. Because of this they will be the fall guy. Despite this I still hope McCain wins and Condoleeza Rice runs in 2012!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  442. Leyana

    Hillary Rodham Clinton! Though it will be a great fight because Sarah Palin will try to re-create herself with a newer and better wardrobe! Great scenario Jack.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  443. Karoly

    I do hope that Hillary runs again. The timing wasn't right this time, as we need real change. Not that she wouldn't have brought it, but I truly believe that this is Barack Obama's time. She had a great campaign, but his "movement" was the catalyst for the youth of our nation to become involved and take the reigns. We truly need a generational shift, and Hillary couldn't provide that right now. Maybe in 2012.

    Palin will never have what it takes to be President. She is of mediocre intellect, is ethically challenged, and won't have a political career if the McCain/Palin ticket doesn't win. She has proven herself to be a total a charicature of American Womanhood and a total sham. Joe the Plumber, as well, is a fictional character, made up to appeal to the ill-educated. Hopefully, their 15 minutes of fame is drawing to a close.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  444. Bill Fox from Rochester, NY

    Well Jack...I guess the real question is how many times do you have to get your butt kicked back up to Alaska before you get the picture!
    Then again....that may vary depending on your "experience" or should I say lack there of. It could be 2040 and the answer would be the same. Sara just isn't in the same league as Hillary. However I do wish she and her family well. We can always use good vigilant Americans watching out borders with Russia....in their spare time when they're shooting wolves from planes...or building bridges to no where...or perhaps buying a new wardrobe at the consignment shop.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  445. John Fordice

    Jack .... are you trying to tell me that Sarah Palin actually used the word "naught," correctly ???

    Well, if so, I might ignore the obvious intellet, experience and savoir faire of Hillary.

    Hmmmmmm .... then again, maybe not.

    John Fordice
    Kennett Square PA

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  446. Shaye F.

    I think it disrespectful to even put Palin's name in the same sentence (with regard to political challenge) as the distinguished Senator Clinton's. In fact, I'm quite sure that the vast majority of republicans, if required to sound off honestly, would hands down run to the polls on Senator Clinton's behave.
    All things considered, President Obama will do well to keep Senator Clinton close...very close. There's absolutely no question that a presidential cabinet lead by Obama and supported in any capacity by Hillary Clinton is our country's best chance for long-term positive, turn-around.
    In short, Palin would have a shot in hell!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  447. Katie/florida

    Surely you jest..Hillary`s women would flock back to her..Palin wouldn`t have a chance..

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  448. Mike Gibbs

    The wise answer should be Mrs. Hillary Clinton, however there s never any accounting for bad taste or commons sense and lately America seems to have her fair share of both. Don’t
    Be surprise if stupidity wins!

    Mike Gibbs
    Ottawa Canada

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  449. Frances Duran

    Give me a break. Palin would be great in the remake of Fargo.
    She is completely unqualified to be governor let alone a president.
    If she ever became president I would surely become a resident of Italy, Spain or France. We would become the Un-United States.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  450. Terry

    This is a huge no brainer. Hillary, Hillary, Hillary. Hopefuly in 2012 we will be looking forward to Obama's second term. I am for Hillary in 2016. One of (if not 'the one") McCain's biggest mistakes was to name her as his VP pick. It is insulting to think that people would cross over because of losing Hillary. Who wants to be compared to Sarah Palin. She is a major drag for McCain and apparently he dosen't realize it. I am ready to hear of her return to Alaska and imagine that we will never hear the name again.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  451. JWil

    Hillary in a heartbeat!! She's intelligent, well-versed on both domestic and foreign policy, a great conversationalist (meaning she can speak in complete sentences) and well-read (meaning she knows what newspapers and magazines she reads). You know, all the things that Palin aren't now and, won't be in 8 years, let alone 4.
    By the time Palin is FINALLY ready to run, either Chelsea Clinton or, either of Barack's daughters will be more qualified than Palin to take over the reigns in Washington.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  452. Al

    One can only hope that the scenario that you described is true, because we missed a real opportunity to transform our country on the day that Hillary Clinton was defeated for the nomination this year. I can only pray for the match-up you describe for 2012, because if Hillary Clinton has the good fortune to face Sarah Paln, you can take to the bank that Hillary Clinton will be taking the presidential oath of office on January 20, 2013. And that will be the country's good fortune.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:33 pm |
  453. Theresa

    Jack, this country has past up a critical chance to have a grounded, intelligent, hard working and caring president by not nominating Hillary Clinton. I hope we won’t be regretting it in the next few years, but I fear we will. The only thing Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have in common is that they are both beautiful women on the outside. Hillary, thankfully, is also beautiful on the inside! Clinton would win…hands down!
    Oh by the way….Hillary did not have a meltdown after the nomination was stolen from her through those undemocratic caucuses. She simply was very disappointed, as anyone (men, too) would have been. Stop knocking her! You are being very pompous!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:34 pm |
  454. Rod Nelson

    I think that Clinton would win Its not like Palin would gain a lot of insight between now and then. In the grand scheme of things it would be almost no contest. Palin has no real skills that she could use as the president of the united states. One example foreign affairs.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:34 pm |
  455. Elleon

    Gov. Palin's speech to the alaskan independent party is on you tube.
    She welcomes the A.l.P. and states she shares their views. Jack why aren't you exposing this story.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:34 pm |
  456. Alice

    The pit bull in lipstick is no match for the pit bull in a pantsuit.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:34 pm |
  457. Mary

    You really are making me laugh-Hilary all the way!!! The other one is not qualified to be in politics

    November 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm |
  458. Morgan Williams

    Come on.... Palin is an IDIOT!! Go home Carabou Barbie!!
    Mrs. Clinton would kick you in every which way out of the ballpark. Adios Governor... have fun with the moose!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm |
  459. jiji

    Hilary Clinton hopefully, because she can has the experience and wit, and actually answers the questions she is asked.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm |
  460. Mike Moore

    Hillary would have no problem showing Sara Palin back to her "Bridge to Nowhere":

    November 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm |
  461. Aaron Miller

    There's no way Palin could learn enough about economics, foreign policy, energy and climate change in 3 months, let alone 4 years. Hillary wins.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm |
  462. jean

    Hillary will blow her mouth out and embarsse her so bad she would take her executive experience back to her bridge to nowhere, never to be heard from again, and i can live with that.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm |
  463. Surafel Melaku

    Barack Obama '08 & '12! I betcha! The law will change for the 3rd term of presidency when voter see Obama's 8 years in white house! 🙂

    November 3, 2008 at 6:35 pm |
  464. Kim Jackson- Indiana

    Your kidding ! Laugh, Hillary is too smart & intelligent . Palin can't hold a candle to Hillary. Maybe Palin she stick to hunting & fishing, she is not qualified to even be in Politics.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:43 pm |
  465. JP

    Between Hillary-the-Clinton and Sarah-the-Palin..... I think...Joe-the-plumber would win....or ...wait ....maybe he would lose because he was seen paling around with Palin in 2008.....

    November 3, 2008 at 6:43 pm |
  466. Ed

    Jack, we've had enough election excitement for one lifetime. We don't need another beauty pageant.

    (New York)

    November 3, 2008 at 6:44 pm |
  467. jay cape cod Ma.

    Jack you would have a better chance having breakfast with Jimmy Hoffa then Palin beating Hillary

    November 3, 2008 at 6:44 pm |
  468. Maureen Andersen

    Clinton if Americans have any brains

    November 3, 2008 at 6:45 pm |
  469. Pat, NJ

    Hillary – she is competent, qualified and not an idiot like Palin. I am a republican and would freeze over before I voted for Palin over Clinton.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:46 pm |
  470. Terry

    no one...........

    November 3, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  471. Molly Mefford, Brazoria, Texas

    Hillary! Hillary! Hillary!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  472. Ms M L Beckham

    This is a no brainer, Jack! Senator Hillary Clinton would absolutely win! I think that by now, people have figured out that Sarah Palin is concerned about herself, not the American people!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  473. one happy guy

    sara weres your medical records ? are u hiding something? sara were watching u

    November 3, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  474. Kelly

    My answer is the same as Senator Bidens to the question regarding "is Senator Obama a marxist.".. are you joking, is this a joke question? Of course Hillary would win no doubt about it.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  475. Cheryl

    Well, if Palin gets in the "fix" like Bush did Florida in 2000, then yeah, she could end up like Bush and be the next stupidest president the US ever had!

    November 3, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  476. Peggi in Hamburg

    No contest there, Hillary. The Republican Party would be a joke if they even thought about nominating her when there are better, more qualified individuals.

    November 3, 2008 at 6:48 pm |