Rep. Murtha’s 'redneck' and 'racist' remarks to hurt Obama in PA?
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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Democratic Congressman John Murtha from Pennsylvania is challenging Republican Governor Sarah Palin for who can say the stupidest things on the campaign trail.
You may remember about a week ago Murtha called some of his constituents in western Pennsylvania "racist," and said many would not vote for Barack Obama. He later apologized. Rule of holes: When you're in one, stop digging. Murtha tried to further explain his comments yesterday. Big mistake. He told a Pittsburgh TV station that until five to 10 years ago the entire region was "redneck" and what he really meant was that it's hard for many of those people to change their beliefs. He said only certain segments of the population hold on to racist feelings...And may have a problem voting for a black candidate.
But Murtha said he's telling voters there to vote on the issues...Not to vote on whether a candidate is black or white. There is no indication that anyone has asked Murtha for his advice on anything.
Here’s my question to you: Will Democrat Rep. Murtha calling some people in Pennsylvania “redneck” and “racist” hurt Barack Obama?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Jim writes:
Jack, will race-baiting, calling Obama a socialist or a pal of terrorists help McCain? Polls show that the negative stuff is not working, no matter who talks trash.
Bonnie from Pennsylvania writes:
I live in Western Pennsylvania. Jack Murtha's comments will not hurt Barack Obama. My vote still goes for Obama. I'll still vote for Murtha even though he put his foot in his mouth. He's a good representative. Most of the people I know are looking at the issues not the race card.
Tim from Texas writes:
Hi Jack. I’m a redneck, born and bred in Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania, and I’m votin’ Obama on Election Day. I may be a redneck, but I’m not stupid.
Antoine writes:
With 14 Days left in this election and Barack up by 9 points, people should not mess it up for him. People will choose for themselves whether to vote for Barack or not. So Murtha, please shut your mouth and let the people decide.
Ryan from Galesburg, Illinois writes:
Jack, these comments won't hurt Obama because he didn't make them. The only folks that might be offended are the actual racists, who aren't voting for Obama in any case.
L. from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania writes:
Western Pennsylvania guys are not technically rednecks, since they would actually have to leave their beer at the bar and go out into the sun to achieve such status.
John writes:
Jack, take it easy on John. I, too, have the same problem with saying the wrong thing. It isn't planned; it just happens and you don't realize it for a couple of days.
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Jack,
Barack Obama cannot be held responsible for what other
people say (whoops, sound like Mccain now). The
difference is Barcack does not support or encourage
such statements.
It is unfortunate that such remarks were made, but voters
realize that is not and will never be Baracks stance.
He is for and accepts all Americans and is trying to
unite us, not divide.
Obama's worst political liability in Pennsylvania or anywhere else seems to be Biden's big mouth. Murtha's small potatoes.
Obama needs to be held accountable for his own words, not everybody else's. I doubt Murtha's words will hurt Obama, since we know Obama's views on building bridges and joining people together.
Probably not, except for a small number of people who even listen to all of this chatter.
maybe. it shouldnt ,tho. if anything it should hurt murtha.its time for a new generation of leadership in washington. these older gentlemen just aren't attuned to the sensitivities of race and religion. not as tolerant as younger folks. this seems to be one of those times when the youth teach the elders ,the advantage of progress and tolerance in cultural issues. there's really not a lot that divides us ,except the issues of yesterday that keep haunting us today.
Hi Jack,
We were missing you in our living room. Hope you're fine!
Right now Americans are more worried about their economic situation than any commentary from the rednecks. So, I don't think they will pay attention to the fear mongers. I think Pennsylvanians will put aside the prejudices and will be brave enough to vote for Barrack Obama.
Quite simply no. Rendell already said something fairly similar months ago. Obama will win PA on his own merits by at least 8 points. Pardon the expression, but you can bank on it!
No. They would only hurt if they were not true.
If Obama is responsible for Murtha's remarks, then there is a straight line from Michele Bachmann and her hate-filled rhetoric to the McCain campaign. Bottom line, individuals speak for themselves. It shouldn't hurt Obama if Pennsylvanians desire decent healthcare, an education for their kids and a stop to the outsourcing of jobs.
Jack–
They might. But probably not with people who were going to vote for Obama anyway. I don't think they will be a significant factor in the outcome of the presidential race in any case.
Troy, Ohio
Murtha's comments will only highlight his own racism and will backfire against McCain and Murtha.
What will hurt Obama is the fact that he raised $150 millon dollars last month. And he wants to stop corporations from giving "golden parachutes" to executives,that worked for the money . Obama is nickel and dimeing, voters,into giving to his corporation, he says he knows times are hard for us poor and middle class, but he does not have a problem with asking for and taking our money. If elected maybe his tax breaks are just giving back to donors,what they gave him. Since political contributions are not a tax write off.
Obama is trying to buy this election. I would have more respect for him if he had taken public financing,like pledged to, untill he caught on to what sucker's the American voters are. He's getting richer , we are getting poorer. He lost my vote.
NO! Murtha has been representing rednecks for years, I don't think they mind being called what they are. I grew up in Pennsylvania and return visits prove that Archie Bunker still rules in some areas. However, Pennsylvanians are smart and patriotic and will do what is right for our country. They will trust Obama to lead us out of the mess created by stupidity and greed. Deer hunters will not be swayed by moose-hunting Caribou-Barbie and her side-kick.
Welcome back Jack, miss you.
If, you're truly an american, you learn to just ignore all of these stupid remarks..it shows you just how ignorant these people are.
Obama supporters need to understand how infuriating it is to most of us, to call anyone who opposes him racist. That is one thing that might not change the polls, but when voters get into the privacy of the voting booth, they will remember it and vote exactly the way they want to.
Playing the race card will produce the same results on election day that attacking everyone who opposes Obama will produce: a McCain win.
Of course not. Racists such as Rendell are nothing more than ignorant inbred retards. They represent a very minute portion of our population.
Steve
Laguna Niguel, CA
Having grown up near the Pennsylvania border, I can tell you that Murtha's characterizations are quite true for some folks in that area. However, knowing they are true and calling people rednecks and racists do nothing to build the kind of political progress and chasm-healing that we need in this country. Certainly, they cannot help Obama in his efforts to build bridges.
Right now I don't really care about who said what about whatever....It's about the economy and what if anything will McCain or Obama do to help ....Getting nervous here in TEXAS!!
Jack
Does the Republicans' false "Muslim", "terrorist" and "socialist" labels on Barak Obama hurt McCain?
No, PA is a done deal. McPalin live in an alternate reality where lies are the truth and nothing they say can be disputed, and apparently where they think they can turn PA red.
Of topic, I am still waiting for your review of the VP debate, the one that you said you would crawl naked under barbed wire to see. I am serious.
I am so glad you are back.
Murtha called our military cold-blooded killers.Now he calls his district a bunch of old racists.Biden said Obama not experienced enough to be presiddent,Hillary said Obama just a speech and that she and Mccain were the only experienced to be the president.And now these same 3 claim Obama the only one fit to be president.Apparantly they are all liars.
WELCOME BACK JACK, AND THATS A FACT!
AS A NATIVE OF W.Pa, MURTHA'S COMMENTS ARE NOT FAR OFF, LOOK AT FIRST DUDE IN PITCAIRN, TALKING UP SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS AMONG THE GUN TOTERS. I KNOW THESE PEOPLE, THEY WILL VOTE AGAINST THEIR ECONOMIC SELF-INTEREST, AS THEY HAVE SINCE REAGAN. HOWEVER, THESE CULTURAL MORONS ARE IN THE MINORITY, AND WILL NOT AFFECT THE OUTCOME FOR PA VOTERS.
TOM, FOREST HILLS, PA
Ah yes, there’s nothing like a national election circus to show the rest of the world how much racism still lurks in the US. Unfortunately, Rep. Murtha is at least partly correct.
Peter
Boulder, CO
I don't think Murtha's statements will have any effect on Obama, I think that 99% of voters take these kind of comments for what they are, which is someone's opinion, and most of the nation outside of PA never heard of Murtha anyway. What does have an effect is the McCain/Palin gang seizing on every little soundbite they can derive from such a statement and try to turn Obama into what they themselves have become: hatemongering, fearmongering xenophobes
Dear Jack, Talk about pouring gasoline on a fire. Question: What do you call an angry racist redneck in Western Pennsylvania? Answer: Any one of the 1st 500 voters at every polling place come election day.
Jack – Welcome back.
John Murtha is old school. He is what 80 years old but thinks the same as he did in 1953 before Brown vs Board of Education. There are fewer and fewer like him everyday.
HI JACK!!!!,
You have been missed very much. We can not get through this election without you.
As for the question regarding the remarks Murtha made, I must say, I am glad that God does not hold us responsible for things other people say or do. Can you just imagine how our lives will be if he did? In the same spirit, Obama can not be responsible for things other people say. The McCain camp is trying to find a way to bring up Rev. Wright since Rep. Lewis said the attitudes projected at the McCain rallies reminded him of how things were during that period in his life. What does that have to do with Obama? How can Obama be responsible for what Lewis said? If the attitudes he noted reminded him of attitudes he noted years ago, then how can anyone be offended to the point of blaming Obama?
Roland Martin put it best when he said, "If McCain want an apology for what Rep. Lewis said, he should call Rep. Lewis." In the same manner, I think Obama should direct any one who wishes to know anything else about Wright, Ayers or any other person of interest, to the person themselves.
Love you Jack, keep up the good work.
I rerally don't think, at this point, that most intelligent people put much stock into what Murtha or anyone else says. The majority of us have already made up our mind by now, and may have already voted early.Welcom back Jack. I missed your biting humor, intelligence, and great wit!
It's time for ignorant Americans to wake up and vote for the right candidate!
The right candidate is NOT John Mccain/Palin.
People need to realise that Mccain/Palin don't have a clue what they are talking about, it's all nonsense. They attack other opponents without knowing the true ideas and facts.
And you know what, Americans are not all like Joe the Plummer, because the real Joe the Plummer is an unlicensed plummer and he did NOT pay his taxes.
CNN proved Congressman Murtha right by showing the world the vile hate pouring forth from Palin supporters at her Johnstown, Pa. rally last week. The reprehensible actions and statements from the podium and the crowd were an embarrassment to not only Pennsylvania but the nation. If my fellow Western Pennsylvanians who aren’t racist can’t face the truth then we are worse than the racists among us. McCain and Palin do not care about what is right, they only care about winning no matter what damage they do to the country. This is one old redneck who is voting for Obama.
Ron
Washington, Pa.
Jack,
I hope not Obama guilt by association is killing him and I'm sure Obama didn't tell him to say that. With friends like them who needs enemies.
Jack No, people are worried about how they can put food on their table, Health care, loosing their homes, their Jobs etc.Obama show that he will lead us back to prosperity,Pennsylvaninas will put aside that ,and go out there and Vote for Obama.
No. Did you catch any of Palin's hate rallies while you were off? Enough said.
Welcome back, Jack. I hope your absense was merely a battery-recharging vacation. (heard no rumors to the contrary 🙂 ).
The quick answer is no. We're not hearing it from Obama nor from the folks who attend his rallies. We're not really hearing it from Biden, although he can stick his foot precariously close to the pile.
The other thing is...these comments, off-putting as they may sound are often grounded in some degree of truth. There ARE red-neck racists in western Pennsylvania. We have some here in southern Indiana. They're all over the Deep South even after all this time. I have some that are friends of mine...I can't fix 'em, but I've tried. It is sad, but it is true.
For whatever reason, we're not "allowed" to say these things without severe retribution. If a McCain supporter had said it, it shouldn't hurt McCain either.
If you don't want to be called it, don't be it.
In ten days McCain will be up by 5 in Pa.
The news is getting out on Obama Socialism.
James J
Wisconsin
Murtha's remarks should not have been made.But they were ,so how do we go about ,and try to understand what is happening and why.There are alot of people that are afraid of Obama because of his race.I't sad to say we still live in a society that is raceist.Weren't we all brought up to respect all people of all walks of life,and nationality.And if not why...We still need alot of discussion on this ,it bothers me.The new younger voters do not feel this way.Let us realize that it does need to be talked about and understood now more than ever.
Jack,
No, they won't. McCain and Palin will try to use them against Obama but, as with so many other attempts at spin, these will fall flat except with salivating conservatives. Those of us who have gotten to know Obama over the last year understand that he would never use or support the use of such labels. He's much too decent to go wading in such muck.
Jim
Reno, Nevada
His point of view might be correct but he should use some wisdom right now. Be soft and gentle and just get this ship to shore in one peace. It has withstood many storms and I'm certain it will overcome this one.Obama showed great tatics in outfoxing and outsmarting McCain on campaign funding leaving the war veteran with more questions than answers. It's just two more weeks to go and the White House is in sight for the DEMS.
Although many won't agree with John Murtha, he speaks the truth. But there are racists everywhere in our United States, and Obama and everyone else knows it. Maybe it wasn't the smartest thing for Mr Murtha to say, but at this point, it really doesn't matter in the long run. All that really matters is for everyone that says they support Obama to get to the polls and actually vote for him!
jack,it is possible murtha's remarks could hurt obama but i don't think so.people are smart enough to know those were not obama's words only those of a tired old man,obama is trying to bring us together not divide us as the republicans are trying to do.
How great to have you back! You are my Monday through Friday connection to important dialogue.
It is likely most Pennsylvanians have decided who they want as President. The ugliness of McCain/Palin statements versus the ability of Obama/Biden, with focus on issues and more clarity and respect for their intelligence will impact the PA voters who have not already decided.
Murtha's unpleasantness is another strike against McCain.
Why do some Democrats keep on throwing fuel on the fire ? Don't they know when to keep their mouths shut ?
Murta should know better....Obama will still win but he needs to unite the Country when all the dust is settled. Bigotry is going to be one of the greater issues to overcome but we don't need to put it front and center right now. Plenty of Time for that after November 4th.
Let sleeping dogs lie I say. Same goes for Joe Biden too.
Hi Jack, welcome back. You have been greatly missed...!!!
Murtha said a stupid thing. Somewhere in his thinking there are some shades of truth, but his wording was ridiculously bad and divisive. Are we going to counter his remarks with some equally ridiculous sentiment that there is no racism? No, of course not, and we shouldn't. But neither should we indulge the sort of thinking that your question poses. Some stupid remarks should just be quickly condemned and then even more quickly buried.
Glad you're back, Jack.....
I don't think it will hurt him one bit... It seems that when Joe the Plumber gets old, he get forgetful. When politicians get old, they just make stupid statements.
Jack, his comments will not hurt Obama. The only hurt that will be felt is the hurt of the people that will cut off their hand to keep from voting for a Black Man. I do not call them anything as it is not my place to judge them but I do not think it is in their best interest to cut off their hand to keep them for voting for the best candidate.
Ya think? Murtha is a joke at a funeral. If he were a Republican, he would have been run out of town, tarred and feathered. This is a two party nation, and one party always gets the pass. They can do no wrong, pay no price for their misdeeds and have no accountability for their mistakes. They do, however, have the unique ability to point their fingers at others when they themselves have screwed up. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are prime examples of that finger.
Something else that upsets me is this hate at the McCain and Palin rallies.How will we ever be united in our UNITED STATES OF AMERICA if we keep letting this happen.I think the McCain and Obama campaigns should be accountable for this.We need the feeling of hope right now.The only one coming close to that is Obama from all I've seen so far.
I hope not, but you have to unfortunately politically correct. My personal experience I was visiting restaurant with American friend who were not "White" we were asked to leave the restaurants.
I write blogs, if anything I dare to point out facts which are negative to McCain I am blasted with hate messages. sadly.
We have to be united as American no race no color no religion have any preference. We are all American in United States of America.
I feel if McCain is elected we will be alienate from the world.
Welcome back, Jack! Our thoughts have been with you.
Obama has worked hard to campaign on inclusiveness and getting us back on track as a unified country that can find common ground to move us forward. Whatever Murtha's rationalization for his comments were, he and others really need to think before they say dumb things.
Do I think that Murtha's comments will hurt Obama in Pennsylvania? I doubt it. Americans have much bigger problems than worrying about a case of foot-in-mouth disease.
Welcome Back, your viewers missed you.
Now back to the stupid season, or maybe is it hunting season. Not deer hunting, but the stupid politicians hunting for votes so they further screw up this once great country. Sadly, both of them together can't fix this problem, only make it worse.
As to Murtha's comment: I grew up in Warren/Youngstown OH, next door to Murtha's district – yes he is right. Sad to say.
Anyway welcome back.
Welcome Back Jack. Since you have been gone I'm afraid that CNN is starting to look like the new F-Word network. Everywhere I look there's Pallin. Yikes! As to the question why should it hurt Obama. Murtha said it and you can't cure stupid.
Welcome back missed your point of view don't do this to us any more at most not untill this election is over then maybe. I live in a Red Neck State Nebraska I know people that will not vote for Barack Obama for he is not like them, these very same people would not vote for anyone who looks different. They would not support any one who would help them for they are narrow minded and bigets. They are single issue voters gun rights, right to life, and the like. You want to know why more Nebaskan's live in other states than live here it is because they can't stand being in this state other than support the Huskers they have no wish to be where you can't get ahead.
There are about a million Racist in Nebraska and thy will vote for McCain. I am white Irish, German and over 60 and at least one vote for Barack Obama. I have already voted.
Jack,
I don't think it will hurt Obama that much. I can honestly say that Rep. Murtha’s comments were not that far from the truth. I watched the video of those outside the Palin rally in Pennsylvania and all I saw were a bunch of out of touch racist Americans hell bent on spreading hate and racial divide and lies to anyone that would listen. its a shame young kids were there in the audience and now have learned to hate someone just because of skin color, religion or there views. this is why people want a change and are going to vote Obama in as our next president.
Yes. Murtha is an idiot and an old fool. He should be completely censored and ostrasized from the Democratic Party. He actually belongs in the "Party Of The Stupid" (Republican Party that is).
Murthas remarks will come back to hurt him more than it will Obama.
With everything that McCain & Palin have thrown at Obama, Murtha's comments were pretty tame when you compare the two.
Jack, You have been greatly missed. Welcome back.
Jack
This only goes to prove that there are idiots in congress. Hopefully people will ignore these remarks and consider the source.
Hi Jack!!! Welcome back. I hope that powers at be over at CNN didn't keep you in the dog house for speakingf the truth about Plain 🙂
As for your question Why does Obama always have to apologize or defend what other people say??
This is ridiculous!!
Obama hasn't to my knowledge called one single voter a redneck , terrorits,un-american or racist!!
Enough already!!!
I think that people know they can't hold someone accountable for someone elses words.....and I also have some "redneck" friends that actually enjoy being called rednecks.
This Country's voters are so desperate for change that I don't think McCain's remarks, Murtha's remarks.....or anyone elses remarks will convince them to pull that voting lever for anyone else but the Candidiate that can provide real change in this Country....OBAMA
Murtha probably won't even remember he made those remarks.
Murtha shouldn't be taken seriously.
Welcome back Jack and stay well.
No, people who are racist are already not voting for Obama simply because of his race.......This time around, this election is as important as it has ever been, and people are going to make the right choice and ignore these silly distractions. There is way too much at stake this time around, Murtha's comments aren't going to change a thing.
I missed you, Jack, welcome back!
No, the man was just telling the truth like Ed Rendell did in the primaries.
Rendell enforced racism so that Hillary could win and Murtha was just telling the truth about his state.
Bit/Alabama
Welcome back, Jack! God, we missed you. Anyway, I think the people in PA will react more to the despicable remarks and tactics of the McCain campaign. How dare Palin suggest that we in larger cities or towns are un-American, not hard working or god-loving. How dare the congresswoman from Minnesota suggest that some members of congress are anti-American. They are trying to divide this country and I think the majority of Pennsylvanians and all Americans are sickened by them and will hand them a landslide defeat on November 4th.
well murtha is speaking some truth to it..but there are some rednecks who would vote for obama as well mccain, i guess..there are some people using racism against obama..if pennsylvania as well other states can prove all of us wrong, obama will win the election..murtha as well other congressional members needs to stand up for the democratic party because gop poopers are doing anything to win an election to keep the poor and middle class out for good..
Obama has never sent anybody out to make unbecoming comments.
After 20 months on the campaign trail and so many spurious and unsubstantiated kitchen sink and toilet bowl thrown at him.
Americans and the world atlarge have come to see a calm and precise person in Obama.
Come on, Obama is far above "gutter talk" and we will never hold him responsible for misguided statements by people he never sent on such errands in the first place!!!
God bless America.
Love you Jack
It would be a shame to see Mccain/palin in any sort of power role their rascist incitement in their speeches are scary I thought america was different and a land of promise or is that only for the white folk like Palin and Mccanin And please shut Mccain up about the Want to be a plumber but I am dumber He is only hiding he's wealth behind Dumb Joe who never had a chance anyway.
OMG !! Welcom Back Jack....CNN nor politics are the same without you!!
If it didn't come out of Obama's mouth (or Joe Biden's) than it should not hurt him...By now Dem's know how to decipher thru the bs the Rep's throw out there. We all need to invest in some tall wader's !!
Jack, names only sting if you see yourself in them. If it doesn't fit, you don't see it as refering to you. That's why McCain has never rattled Obama with all the mudslinging!
Jack, welcome back! We missed you! Now, if you saw the video of the people at the Sarah Palin rally from outside where the man had a "Hussein" stuffed monkey, you would understand why this man made these comments. So, ultimately most people from that area knew what he meant and therefore I don't think it will hurt the Democratic ticket of Obama/Biden.
Ryan in NW Indiana
Murtha said it, Murtha owns it.
No. People who actually have the slightest bit of intelligence will be able to separate Obama from Murtha. Those who take offense to the statement probably fit it, though, and were bound to vote for McCain anyway.
Glad to have you back, Jack–we missed you!
Why should Obama be blamed for what Rep. Murtha said. Too much is already placed upon the candidates that other people have said or done. Murtha threw the stone, so let Murtha take the blame.
HOPE DEFEATS HATE 2008!
Those 'rednecks' that are also bigots would not vote for Obama anyway...But they have continued to vote for Murtha....
Now the climate is much different and we have educated 'rednecks' who are also informed and not bigots...They will vote their conscience....even those in Oklahoma and NC not just PA...
I hate that the Mccain group is playing into the lowest common denominator and Trying to keep these people in the same monolithic box - like black Americans –they think....Neither group votes as a block!!!!
This is the fly in the ointment for Mccain and crew!
No – John Murtha is not Barack Obama – nor his Vice Presidential nominee – and Pennsylvanians know it. Sarah Palin's disparaging remarks about "real Americans," however, come from McCain's carefully chosen running mate – a big difference.
Jack, I don't trust Murtha.... isn't he an Arab, too 😛
Once agian, welcome back, Jack..there was a definite lack of "pizazz" at CNN while you were gone.
I personally don't think it will cause any damage to Barack/Joe Biden. Murtha voiced what many people are afraid might happen. But as each day goes by, it seems that our Country has made great strides in recognizing the dignity and worth of each individual. Miracles still happen!
Once again, it is soooo good to have you back with us, Jack. Count on my prayers.
At this point, NO. We have heard it all and intelligent people can hear these kinds of comments and know what Rep. Murtha is saying (the truth). However, if you are a McCain supporter, they will try to spin this to say that Obama is racist.
It will (Murthas remark) only irritate the racists who either don't know they are, or don't care that they are. The good folks in Pennsylvania are too smart to change their Obama vote because someone told the truth.
The only one the TRUTH will hurt are those who believe in hatred and racism....not those who will bring it to the forefront and discuss it openly and with diplomacy, in trying to state a new course for the country.
race and racism will be a big factor, coming this nov.4, theres a whole lot of people that say they will vote for obama, but at the last second, vote for mccain
WELCOME BACK! No, I really don't believe it will hurt. I suspect the demographics of the area (I am part of) have been considered, and if it affects anyone, it would be Murtha. (I like Murtha!)
I hope not. Pennsylvania does not have a lock on rednecks. Alabama has more than her fair share of them.
Murtha is what he is-Thank you very much. Anyone really upset with him is not going to vote for "that one" anyway.
No even a redneck can see what has happen in the last eight years.I'm a redneck will be voteing for Obama.
since this is coming from a democrat that supports obama, it'll just be brushed off the shoulder. if it came from a republican supporting mccain, they would be completely blasted daily til the general election from the media and democrats
iam glad iam early voting in 22 hours, oct 22. murtha's and biden should go fishing for a couple week's . murths remarks aren't helpful; but no harm will come, this is the silly season. they could remake the grumpy old men movie. let's tell them there work is done, now go enjoy themselves we'll handle thing's from here on out.........
I don't think his remarks will hurt anything. His comments were directed at people who weren't voting for Obama in the first place. I have relatives in Western PA and quite frankly, I know they aren't voting for Obama because of his race... (which is wrong) So, Murtha was just stating a fact about the mindset in western PA. I think his statements will hurt him more than Obama. Who knows, maybe the statements will make some of the undecided people in western PA take a closer look at why they are having trouble making a decision. Maybe they will see that basing their decision on the color of Obama's skin isn't the right thing to do. He's the best man, case closed.
Yes it can hurt Obama in PA, because it can be tied back to Obama's comments about "clinging to their guns and religion".
Only with rednecks and racists.
Not if the people have been watching the rallies. Two seperate incedents here in Utah have me afraid of some of the people that support McCain/Palin. One man had his Obama signs destroyed. Another woman had her signs destroyed but had things like "he will die" writen on the and had the "N" word spray painted on her car. I am a 58 year old white male, retired 20 years from the US Army, spent 19 months in Viet Nam. Why don't people poll me. McCain/Palin do not have my vote.
this and many other issues is where the republican party disagree with God. God says, you sin you die, republicans say someone you know or that knows you sins, you die. So much for the righteous party!
Peter
Dallas TX
I don't believe those comments will have a great deal to do with the bottom line in Pennsylvania, but what I find disturbing is the hatred that bubbles to the surface, goaded by Palin and McCain at their 'rallies'. They seem to thrive on inciting people to utter the hateful epithets and threats, and paying only lip service in admonishing their followers. They have an obsession to win, and will do anything to get there.
There are, of course, racists lurking throughout the country. Those in Pennsylvania certainly don't deserve any special recognition. Low rent remarks like Murtha's, and those of Palin's at her rallies, have no place in politics. Ultimately they hurt both candidates and further divide us as a nation.
Hi Jack,
I'm a redneck - born and bred in Beaver Falls, P A. and I'm votin' Obama on election day. I may be a redneck, but I'm not stupid.
Tim in Texas
Murtha needs a muzzle, but I doubt his comments will make much difference. To people who weren't going to vote for Obama anyway, it's maybe another excuse. To people who are voting for Obama, it and Murtha are pretty much nothing. To undecideds, how the heck can they be undecided after this never-ending campaign? If Murtha shooting off his mouth is what makes up their minds after 20 months of bombardment, they need their heads examined.
Jack-I missed you
I'm a Canadian viewer I think people around the world sees that Barack Obama has the brains to lead the country he has the best policies of the two candidates, he also have a wife who is very intelligent. he's also very handsome, Good Luck OBAMA.
Dear Jack – Welcome back! – We missed you and your thought provoking questions. I don't think Obama will be hurt by these remarks. John Murtha has a problem with hoof-in-mouth disease, besides his big mouth notwithstanding, who is really making an issue of it? McCain? Palin? so what. They need a molehill to make a mountain out of. They already showed their worst hand with this terrorist business.
Welcome back Jack, you've been sorely missed!
I don't think what Murtha said will make any difference at this point. Anyone that refuses to vote for Senator Obama because of his race has already made their decision. Murtha was showing ignorance in his comments and fanning the existing flames of racism, just as the McCain campaign has done with their anti-American and "he's not like us" statements. That is never a good way to reach people. This election needs to be about unifying our country, not division.
Most people consider the source. He is getting old, like me, and he tends to think in the last century. We will survive all of the aged Congressional members and we'll get some people in there who think in the 21 Century.
Barack Obama speaks for himself. I don't think an intelligent voter will equate what Rep. Murtha said as something Barack Obama is thinking. This is a free country that supports freedom of speech.
Barack Obama can't be held responsible for everyones voice.
What about Sarah Palin inciting hatred at her campaign rallies. How do they view that in Pennsylvania?
There will always be racism in our society. The question is how much racism still exists.
The election of Barack Obama will move us forward as a nation and we will once again be all inclusive. Finally a fighter for the middle class!
Maybe Rep. Murtha was trying to get Pennsylvanians to vote Democratic by getting them riled and now they have to prove they are not racist. I, think, the people of Pennsylvania would have been just fine making up their own minds. Afterall, they are the ones that have lost jobs, money in their retirement accounts, and brave friends and family in the war that was predicated on lies. Go vote Pennsylvania, we trust your judgement. Barack Obama won't be hurt by silly talk from a big mouth.
Welcome back Jack.
The world is not perfect. Some people are racist and wouldn't admit it. If they aren't racist then the Republic party must be sending every republican secret checks each month. That's the only way I can rational why anyone would want to continue policies that didn't work for 8 years.
The only way I would vote for McCain was if I were racist.
The Republicans sure hope so, but "IT Ain't Gonna Happen". The people of Pennslyvainia know who is their best choice to get us out of this mess, and it is not John McCain.
Jack – Why do you all keep trying to hold Obama accountable for what others say and do?
When will CNN start OBJECTIVELY holding McCain and Palin accountable for what THEY say and do?
Those two have become the most divisive, negative, hateful pair I've witnessed in my 65 years, and no one even challenges them. It's awful. We are UNITED – not divided.
I've already voted early for Obama/Biden
I think Murtha should have tempered his remarks and that his words will not help Obama; however, these people he was referring to in his district would probably not be planning to vote for Obama anyway. They need to wake up and smell the roses–the Republicans are all about helping the rich and forgetting the middle class. It's time to have a more equal distribution of wealth in this country. Even Joe the Plumber should realize this–I don't see him getting wealthy on the McCain tax plan!
OBAMA/BIDEN '08
I don't think it's something Obama would support, this name-calling. Murtha is old school, like McCain. That's not where our country, and frankly, our world is headed. It's simple. People want to feel good. They want to feel positive.
Karen, Sacramento, CA
Welcome Back, Jack. We missed you so much! I hope you are doing well.
I think there is no room for this kind of rhetoric in this race or in America, for that matter. These are the same hateful, dividing comments we condemn coming from the McCain camp. Having said that, I don't think those comments will have much sway from the people who will vote for Obama in Pa. It is disappointing, all of the hatred and vitriol that has surfaced during this campaign. I know it's always there but to see it bubble to the surface so violently is downright scary. To think some of these people are teaching our children is astounding!
Why should it? He's right...and he explained his remarks at the time he said them.....the whole of his remarks need to be posted rather than just the one sentence...only rednecks and/or racists will be bothered by the comment.
Wait, let me get this right. We are not supposed to hold Barack accountable for anything his fellow Democrats do or say, but we are supposed to hold McCain responsible for what George Bush has said and done in the past 8 years? Ok, I just wanted to highlight the hypocrisy of Liberals.
Hecky no Jack. The Rednecks and Racists here are hurting just like
the rest of the country.
Obama 08.
These comments will hurt Obama. The divide is growing, as all of us in rural America are generalized into the catagories of “Hicks” and “Rednecks”. Murtha is not the only one to be implicated all parties involved are responsible, the Dems, and Republicans as well as the media. These generalization coupled with the concept that we as rural Americans with our guns and God are not intellectuals, is a wedge. We read the same books, and are given the same education and have all the same opportunities as the "elite" citizens of this country. Please consider this the next time any of your contributors to CNN use the term Hick or Redneck. By the way, I'm still leaning towards voting Obama.
I thought the penn. state was the home of brotherly love and the state that has the liberty bell so how can a elected official say his people are racist and red neck? This is a view of one person and the shame is that he is a elected official and a democrat. this is a disgrace on his office, state and the people who elected him. hopefully this will not effect the election.
Welcome Back!!!!!
Jack, these comments won't hurt Obama because he didn't make them. The only folks that might be offended are the actual racists, who aren't voting for Obama in any case. Murtha may have lost any racist support though, and good riddance.
Hi Jack, I just started blogging about a week ago.The first person i wanted to blog with was you. I have listened to your comments and really like what you have to say so welcome back. I believe the people in other countrys prefer Obama for the same reasons some of us are drawn to him. Colon powell couldnt have said it better, he is a transitional figure and for me he represents hope and civility. I live in mo. now but my heart is in buffalo ny. Tim Russert we sure could have used you down here!
No it will not hurt Obama, most people are going to vote their wallet. I do find it interesting that Pennsylvania natives that backed Clinton over Obama like Murtha, Rendell, Chris Mathews of MSNBC, and the like seem almost proud of the racism they feel exist in parts of Pennsylvania. Very Strange.
Hey,
What is a Redneck? When the Washington Redskin play does anyone say that not "politically correct.."
Let me put it to you this way Jack. The Bradley Effect is in full force here
in Pennsylvania . . . . against John McCain. The rednecks here are
saying they're going to vote for McCain to keep up small town appearances , but the whisper on the street is they're really voting for Barack..
Jack, I thought you'd never get back.
Priscilla
hi jack- welcome back!
sometimes politicians "mistakenly" say what only mere mortals are allowed to say and think. there are those of us who continue to harbor if not outright racism at least some residual lack of trust or perhaps even fear of those whose life experience is not exactly like ours. should murtha have said it, probably not, is there a kernel of truth in what he says. probably. Murtha has always spoken his mind.
Yes, and yes, but given that 90+% of people have already decided who they're voting for, it probably won't hurt too much. If anything, this will probably do more damage to the Murtha '10 campaign.
I don't think the voters of Pennsylvania will allow those comments to change their minds. At this point Most people have made their choice and probably will stick with it. Barack has what it takes to lead
this nation in unity and restore our position in the world. Right now,
sometimes I feel like the country I love has lost respect around the world because of the last 8 years . Enough of that type of administration. John Mccain is saying anything to the American people, trying to distance himself from Bush. But his record speaks differently. Go Pennsylvania Vote for change in the white house and send Sarah Palin back to Alaska
If a person is going to be held accountable for what other people say then I would suggest John McCain wouldn't be able to get elected as a dog catcher.
Look at all the idiotic things his supporters have said throughout his campaign not to mention the some of the wacky comments from supporters at his rallies.
People might use Murtha's comments as a reason not to vote for Obama but the reality is likely they weren't going to vote for him in the first place either because of party affiliation or that other reason.
I dont think anything can damage Barack Obama at this stage. He is so impressive that I think there will be many so called 'Rednecks' who will continue to tell their friends they couldnt possible vote for a black president and then in the comfort and secrecy of the voting booth will put a 'x' beside Obama's name!
The bradley effect in reverse will bring Obama the landslide he so richly deserves!!
So glad to have you back, Jack – we missed you over here in Blighty.
x
Only if they are ignorant, dumb and stupid and go to Palin rallies and holler slurs I think most Pennsylvanians are a lot smarter than that. My “redneck” PA relatives find her and her audience insulting. Rednecks are part of the suffering middle-class, too, who have had their job shipped overseas, and know McCain is not the answer to their prayers. Obama is.
Should he had said it? Maybe not. Is what he says true? Probably so. The person who knows the area and the people the best should be the area's congressman. If they had those feelings they would not have voted for him anyway. This should not hurt Obama.
I hope not, but I think the people he was talking about weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. I really hope this doesn't hurt Murtha's polital career. Remember, he wanted to impeach Bush and Cheney. He spoke out against the war in Iraq years ago. He's a very smart man in my opinion. Our country needs him and Obama. I just think he's worried about how close the race is and nothing more. Maybe he's hoping they'll prove him wrong. I know I am.
I hop not, but you know there are people out there with that mind set.
So good to have you back!!
Again, great to have you back Jack!
I agree with the blogger who said "Murtha said it, Murtha owns it!!!!
But I'm sure McCaine will spin it into a very big deal, like he does everything else. He is like an albino spider; spinning his web of lies to save the American people from Obama.
Vote early America, get it done!! Help build the BRIDGE TO THE WHITEHOUSE!!!!
When I hear Barack Obama himself call people in PA "redneck" and "racist", then he should be held accountable for what he say's. When I hear others shoot off their mouths with their own opinions I am smart enough not to attribute those comments to Barack Obama.
No! I don't believe what he said will change anyones vote!! Sometimes we need to only think things and not speak them. Racism lives on I can tell you a few of my friends have made statements that I never expected. We are all entitled to our opinions, but it is oh so sad when we HATE people because they are different from ourselves!!
Now it appears that both sides are sinking deeper into the muck. The rest of the world is looking at us and scratching their collective heads. They think we are nuts. I was hoping that we were better than this.
I really don't care if "rednecks" or "racists" are offended and the truth be told they don't care either; personally I find THEM offensive and if there are any "un-American" people in this country then rednecks and racists are at the top of the list. They probably don't even know where the term "redneck" came from, what the meaning is today though is something we laugh at with Jeff Foxworthy – ignorant, incestual, smelly, alcoholic racists who generally talk the talk of Christians but don't walk the walk and are afraid to go anywhere without a gun; talk about self-esteem problems – if you don't meet that criteria then John Murtha's words should not offend you, if you do fit that description then its the truth so why should he apologize? Lynn, SD County
Not unless they were listenning., But seriously, the backlash will probably effect murtha, not Sen. Obama. Those people know who they are. The people around them know who they are. They have been exposed. Do you really think that they would have supported Sen. Barack Hussein Obama. As Sen. Obama stated he got his middle name from someone that never thought he would run for president.
Good people will not be moved by such a statement. The others, do you really think they would have voted for Sen. Obama?
No. One of the previous posters described Murtha as "small potatoes". I agree. The only people who know who John Murtha is are Pennsylvanians and people who read about his recent comments... and I don't think that most Pennsylvanians know that he is a representative of the 12th District...
Mr. Murtha needs to retire like most of the old fools in the Congress and let some new blood in to help establish some good change in Washington. He is outspoken and wrong to make comments like this about anyone. People like him should be deported to their country of origin.
The people in Pennsylvania have heard politicians before, just like the rest of us.
As an African-American, I am sick and tired of all the play that the bigots and racists in our country are receiving because of Barack Obama. This has been a platform for them to spew their hatred and give credence to their inept theories of racial superiority. The right thing for any responsible media coverage is to avoid giving any sense of legitimacy to this ignorance and stay focused on the issues that matter, once again, Americans are being sidelined by trivial issues, while Rome burns.
Jack...I don't believe it will hurt him in Pennsylvania but if it does, so be it....there are enough true Obama supporters out there to counter balance their vote!!!
What a crazy world, when you are held accountable for every remark that comes from someone else's mouth, and when you are condemned for serving on a charity board with someone that did something bad when you were 8 years old. At the same time there are multiple things that could be thrown at the other side, the media (and Obama) have chosen not to do it. In the case of the media they are all in the tank for McCain. In Obama's case, he is not into that kind of negativity.
Oh, my God, Jack. I am so glad you're back. So, so glad.
At this stage of the game, with so much ridiculous and partisan crap is being said out there, I think we should focus more on what Barack says. He has a clue. The others sound like windbags, with unfocused thoughts rambling around in their heads so fast, their mouths can't keep up. It's a shame. Time to tune them all out and concentrate on the voting process. If we're not careful, we'll spend all of our time talking about Murtha, Palin, Biden, Acorn, etc. and the Republicans will be commiting real voter fraud and we won't know it until its too late.
Watch the vote, Jack. That's the stage we're at now. If the media would stop covering and repeating what the windbags say, they'd shut up.
No. American people have clearly indicated that they are not for 'guilt by assoiciation politics. Even though the remarks were offensive to many who live in this area, the fact is that those who will not vote for Obama were not going to vote for him anyway.
If I were a redneck or a racist I might be able to answer your question. I've never known how those people's minds work.
I would bet the people of Pennsylvania have more respect for Congressman Murtha than they have for Senators Obama or McCain. Murtha is a hero, as far as I am concerned, for speaking up against his own party's leaders and urging a withdrawal of all troops from Iraq. Had Senator Obama and his fellow Democrats listened to Murtha's wise advice back then, they would have saved many hundreds of American lives that have been lost due to the continuation of this illegal war.
Brownwood, Texas
No. The people who would find fault with Murtha and try to pin it to Obama would never vote for Obama anyway.
Again, welcome back Jack!
Those comments by John Murtha were tragic. We KNOW that we have racists in the USA! But to call people names, is just wrong. That's what the Republicans do! The Dems have to take the high road.
I know that Rep. Murtha is just frustrated, that some people will not vote for Sen. Obama because of the color of his skin. I am disturbed and disgusted by the obvious racism of Limbaugh, Reagan, Hannity, etc.
Limbaugh claims that Sec. Powell, a man who has served and sacrificed for his country, supports OBAMA because of his race!
The Republican-hate-lies-divide-and-fear machine, can not understand that Americans support Obama not because of his race, but because of his brilliance, his desire to UNITE not divide us; his new and wonderful ideas! And..........CHANGE! We, Americans, want to live in the UNITED States of America, not in a land where our Patriotism is questioned!
Jack I just watched a video where Sara Palin answered a question about what a Vice President's job description is and she said basically to run the Senate and negotiate all kinds of good things for the public.
If ever anyone in America was going to be upset by anything someone says it would be her dumb answers like this that they should be concerned with since most people outside the U.S. know the VP only breaks a tie in the Senate.
The answer is NO Obama should not be held accountalbe for what Murtha said but John McCain has to be held responsible for what his VP selection says since he chose her and now has to lie to justify his selection.
Anyone has to be dilusional to vote the ticket that would see a 72 year old man with diminished faculties and a total air head has his replacement and then rationally expect to survive the next 4 years.
I doubt it. The folks that take this to heart aren't voting for Obama anyway. Regardless of what a politcian's "foot in the mouth" comment is, I'm voting on the issues and the temperment of the candidate that I think will best lead this coutry through these next difficult years, guaranteed by the Bush administration.
Jack – so good to have you back. I so look forward to your daily questions.
I think by now people realize Obama does not support that kind of rhetoric and after all of the mudslinging coming from the McCain side people are past that.
I suspect that only the racists will be offended, and they weren't going to vote for Obama anyway.
In case I didn't get it to you before...WELCOME BACK!!!
Maybe we're seeing that racism does exist yet it is not being tolerated anymore. It is time to let go of notions that were handed down to this generation but does not have to go any further.
The GOP has been mostly white.
It's time to let the diversity shine in this great land and move forward together. VOTE OBAMA
Nope, the rednecks and racists know who they are and are proud of the fact. The rest of the residents aren’t going to let a remark keep them from voting for the man that will do the best for our country.
Welcome back, Jack... oh how much we've missed you over the past month!
As for Murcha's comments, it's just one out of what figures to be many twists and turns in the final two weeks plus leading up to the election date. The comments are neither surprising nor new in a Presidential race where anything and everything can and has happened. Expect more craziness... if you can stomach it.
Jack I go back with you when you were doing News Casts in New York City
Enough incompentence War, Deficit, Immigration & Crime, Medical cost
Katrina, Forclosures, Bank Bail Outs, World Wide Loss Of Respect
[Mexicans are berrer people & workers] Contrived Gas Prices JOB LOSS
&Brilliant past 8 Years READING BOOKS TO CHILDREN ON 9/11
Welcome back Jack!
Do we really think that all of those people, clinging to their guns and bibles are listening to Rep. Murtha, or Obama?
We did not hear Rep Murtha's comments, but if anyone should be called a "redneck-racist" it is Rush Limbaugh, whose comments yesterday regarding Gen Powell's endorsement of Sen Obama were entirely racist. Notice that we have heard nothing from the McCain camp regarding Limbaugh's remarks about race.
Hi Jack, I'm glad your back. I'm sure the Situation Room saw a ratings slide w/o you.
Censoring you after your Palin comment was a bad idea.
Barack Obama did not make these comments, right? so why should he be held responsible and hurt by them.... But the lady from Minneapolis who thinks Barack Obama is twisting people's arms to get money out of them for his campaign is way off base. No one in the Obama campaign forces anyone to contribute to his campaign.
sheesh.... Mary from Sarasota, (glad you are back at CNN Jack.)
Hi Jack,
I don't think so. Though he does have a point, I hear some incredibly racist remarks from everywhere.
Austin Welcome back Jack. Yeah it might hurt a little but the folks he insulted were probably going to vote for McCain. I do think Obama will win Pennsylvania anyway.
No Jack; why is it stupid for this man to tell it like it is. There are some redneck klans out their in PA that won't for Obama. He is old and just didn't say it in a polite way that maybe others might have said, but it is true there is alot of racism in these white poor small towns, thats a fact.
Don't think they should hurt Obama, most especially since Murtha's comments are TRUE. As a NW PA Native, I can tell you it is pervasive. Further, Obama's now infamous "bitter" comments about rural folks ring nowhere truer than in PA. Guns, pickups and church on Sunday to forgive it all. There's a reason I moved 2,000+miles away from that nonsense. Thankfully, the good folks who DO live that state are the ones who are going to pull PA into modern, enlightened times, given that Sen. Obama leads by a hefty margin there.
Murtha was just expressing what he believed to be the truth. He apoligized. I can't say he was completely wrong but we hope that on election day , God will appeal to the better angels within some people who Murtha was referring to and elect Obama.
I live in Pennsylvania and Murtha is right, outside of the large cities (phila, pittsburgh,erie, harrisburg) there is a redneck mentality and the kkk is very active here. Sad but true. These people will vote against their own best interests just so they don't elect a competent, capable black man to the White House. Fortunately they are in the minority and their numbers are shrinking fast. Their redneck mentalities are unappealing to the enlightened person.
Old Civil War wounds run deep, here in Canada Jack many still do like the French...and we do have a separatist party hello?
Again welcome home Jack....you are the Situation Rooms best asset!
jack, why in 2008 is race still an issue. i am a white woman and voting for obama. we are all one color in GOD'S eyes. you could be from mars. if you can do the job, i don't care.
Being a Marine Veteran myself maybe what I get all the time is that the Marine Corps sucked the Bbrain out of Murtha. All in all, there are many Whites, Republican and Democrats, that will not vote for Obama. I hear that statement often.
Democrats have a wonderful way of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, but not even this gaffe will stop the Obama juggernaut.
Yes. Because a racist doesn't like being told the truth. They were raised by racists and they don't think there is anything wrong with their point of view. You have to lie to a racist, if you want to get his or her vote.
Allen
Mountain Home ID
Jack Murtha is the 'redneck' and 'racist' hanging in the closet. I hope the people of Pennsylvania realizes that and not vote for HIM next time he runs.
Jack there is only one reason and that's because they see Barack Obama as a MAN not black, white, Asian or any other persuasion with a vision and an uncanny ability to work with any other human being. He brings a softness and concern for every human being in this world. He is above all others when it comes to extending a hand of friendship.
Why should Obama be held responsible for everything others say?
Murtha called rednecks and racists what they are. Nothing wrong with that. The remarks will not hurt Obama, they might even bring in a few additional votes for him.
Sibylle Kettering
Yep
Anyone who listens to Cindy McCain is a crack head too!
Both Palin and McCain are Socialist! Who care about these selloput of America! They have no plans to speak of all they talk about is hate!
First! McCain begged money form Russia that says it all! He is not an American citizen any way! He was born in Panama!
Second! The Republicans are trying to supress the vote now they are trying to supress the American people giving to the canidate that they like if he or she is not Republican!
No, because those redneck misfits wouldn't vote for Obama in the first place. Those dummies will vote against their economic self interests because they aren't very bright. But obviously there are enough good, smart people in Pa who don't think that way and have given Obama a double-digit lead in Pa.
We can only hope.......
Anyone with half a brain knows that Rednecks and Joe Six Pack are the same thing. Are Rednecks more likely to be racists? Maybe as a majority. All these Stereotypes have emerged because of 2 words -Black and Woman.
Murtha was only saying what everybody already knows. There are Rednecks in every State and Racists in every State. Education could solve alot of problems since this is learned behavior.
This will not hurt Obama. His middle name has more meaning and that could hurt him more.
Missed You Jack,
Don't stay gone so long next time. You're always in our prayers.
Go Obama/Biden want to turn Texas BLUE (wouldn't that be great!)
Renee,
Plano, Texas
Indeed, John Murtha is hurting the race for president, but not necessarily Obama. Maybe he needs to tie with Palin for stupid remarks. As soon as anyone talks about being racist, it is a negative thing. Racism is in the eye of the "beholder". It has no place in politics.
Palin is the one running for VP. For the Dems, it's Biden. Murtha is not on anyone's ticket. End of story.
He was telling the truth and most of the time the truth hurts.
Jack, I believe the only thing that can hurt Obama now is purging/vote suppression...if those who "cannot" vote for a candidate who exudes intelligence and leadership, are to have any effect, they'll need to have access to voter registration data. Do they?
Iowa
Maybe Murtha's statement will help the racists and rednecks realize who abd what they are and they'll wake up in time to vote for the best candidate for America instead of the white candidate...yea, RIGHT!
DJ – Detroit
Every once in a while, someone accidentally tells the truth, shame on him.
I don't see it. Murtha was just stating what he really thought. He is not Barack Obama.
I really think people have made up their minds for whom they will vote. The reason to vote for Obama is his intelligent and even handling of any situation...that he can be trusted to approach any crisis with calm and intelligence...distractions like these have nothing to do with who Obama is and why he would make a great president.
Hooray for Congressman Murtha! He is telling it like it is!
No, his comments won't hurt Obama – but they will hurt the reputation of people from Pennsylvania. Those poor folks out there will probably be labeled "racist" for a long time after this, no matter if they are or not.
I don't believe that it could possibly hurt Obama because the media and democrats control the press, therefore controlling the spin. It's a reall shame that we talk about hate speech and we are quick to criticize white conservative republicans, but it is not ok the other way around. Watch David Letterman. It's popular and brings high ratings!
Hi Jack! Welcome back from your surgery as you just mentioned.
Unfortunately, I think Congressman Murtha was just telling the truth about Pennsylvania demographics and it came out wrong. During the primaries, a fairly large newspaper from the eastern side of the state described Pennsylvania like this: we are becoming Philadelphia and PIttsburgh and Alabama in the middle.
I am ashamed that Pennsylvania is building small pockets of redneck racist attitudes that were traditionally elsewhere in this country. Pennsylvanians have typically had more northern, urban, progressive social attitudes. In fact, any republican who used to win in Pennsylvania were the socially progressive republicans such as Arlen Spector and Tom Ridge.
no- because there still are many how say out loud that they are this.
People will vote they want to.
They are smart enough to know who is "putting on and who is not".
Not at all. Individuals around the country who are truly racist need to hear these rebukes.
Jack,
The problem with people is that they shouldn't have a problem with what Murtha said at all. I live in Central PA and we have our share of problems with racial conflict and PA has quite a few white supremacist groups. Just take a look at Klanwatch's map from the Southern Poverty Law Center. Some see PA as a safe haven for this kind of activity, because most people don't agree with these sentiments and think that others don't feel this way. Notice that Murtha didn't say most people here are rednecks, that is just what some people took it to say. But there are many who are not going to vote for Obama. I am pretty sure than members of PA's 33 recognized hate groups aren't going to line up to vote for him. So people can get upset, but it is what it is...an established fact. Some people here are rednecks and aren't going to vote for a black man. But the rest of us will. Obama will soundly win PA...no doubt in my mind about it.
Honestly, why is honesty offensive?
Jack
I hope Obama doesnot find himself spending a bunch of time seperating himself from remarks that Idiots make and stays focused on the road ahead.It would be a crime if these kind of things sway someones vote.
It is simple Jack : Obama is more than 70% more than McCain and Palin put together . Palin makes a fool of herself everytime she opens her mouth. McCain struggles for an impressive reason why anybody should vote for him . McCain foolishly playing the same game as Hillary Clinton , and you know what happened to her. They are so childish that they keep playing school yard bullies . You can play that game only that far and that long.. Time will catch-up to them . Americans are too smart to be persuaded by these two clowns . They may do a halfway decent job in a Circuss . We definitly need more intelligent. pair in the whitehouse . It will be very unfortunate if Americans made the mistake of picking this pair . Let us pray that great people of America will do the right thing and elect Obama- Biden ^Team.
Well, they will be wood to fires already burning in the Republican camp to try and keep warm their own followers. Still, McCain will probably demand that Obama vigorously denounce Murtha etc. etc. and play the "I'm shocked and hurt" card. McCain's singularly blind and deaf to insults coming from his campaign and, indeed, his own ticket.
McCain's campaign has been hitting rough and very, oh so very, low. And with Senator's McCain stated approval Obama can't be faulted by words uttered by a fellow democrat who doesn't belong to his campaign and over whom he has no control.
By the way, I've just heard Governor Palin say Joe "the Plumber" is responsible for the "socialist" line in her speeches. She doesn't seem to have the slightest idea what "socialism" means (neither has Joe, but that's less worrisome, he won't be leading a country, I hope). Has somebody asked her what she thinks it means? Apparently she only goes so far as to realize it's a popular line with Republicans... but is she really proud of energizing a bunch of parrots?
Jack, I think its appalling that Rep. Murtha said the racist, redneck part of Pennsylvania is full of racist, rednecks. I think these backwoods, sh@$ kickers should be shown more deference from they're elected officials. 🙂
Welcome back Jack... Wolf is okay, but tries hard to be way too neutral to be entertaining!
Frankly, I don't believe Murtha's comments will hurt Obama any, unless he's RIGHT! (As he often IS!)
On the other hand, there is a good chance that Murhta's comments hurt Murtha! The old curmudgeon really has to stop offering his opinion unless he's ready to back it up with proof or a real logical argumant... he just gets in trouble over and over again.
If Murtha's remarks cause individuals not to vote for Obama, chances are, they were never comfortable voting for him in the first place.
Mary in Minneapolis October 21st, 2008 2:09 pm ET
What will hurt Obama is the fact that he raised $150 millon dollars last month. And he wants to stop corporations from giving “golden parachutes” to executives,that worked for the money . Obama is nickel and dimeing, voters,into giving to his corporation, he says he knows times are hard for us poor and middle class, but he does not have a problem with asking for and taking our money.
Obama is asking you to trust him and invest him so that he can work for you. With the current economy i think he is the best bet for americans to show some returns for there investment.
Sarah Palin has a strong chance of becoming president if McCain wins. Murtha is not running for anything. Will his comments hurt? Is there any truth to what he is saying? If yes then it could hurt because most people don't always like looking into the mirror and the truth can hurt. If what he's saying is false, then it makes him look silly.
I think people will realize that these comments are completely irrelevant, too bad those words didn't stay in the past that we are now trying to grow away from. I think people will know that. Maybe they will realize Palin is a parakeet not an original source of homespun wisdom. Maybe they will think how nice the stimulus payment was, who'd want to call anything like that a socialistic redistribution of wealth????
Interesting intro into this issue. A democratic senator says something completely off-the-wall, and CNN uses it as a dig at Palin. Typical, typical CNN. Need I say more?
Not really, Jack. The color "money green" is all that's important to me. I wouldn't care if Obama was pink, purple, polka-dot or indigo.
I am hoping Americans can rise above such blatant ignorance. Barack Obama offers this country hope! I just pray that people see him as a man with a vision, and not let the narrow minded "vision" of racism get in their way.
Gail Albers
Woodstock, Illinois
Jack, Missed you. I think if Barack is hurt it will be marginal. I believe that Murtha should be more sensitive with his words but it's actually what most people are thinking that follow the McCain philosophy and are of a different generation. As General Powell said it best Obama transends generations and brings a vigorous intellect to the office.
I have a feeling that the only ones who would really mind would be the rednecks themselves, and they won't vote for Obama no matter what anyway.
Hope, not fear. GObama '08!
Greetings Jack!
I honestly don't believe that Rep. Murtha's remarks will hurt Obama here in PA. He was just telling it like it is! I'm from Reading, PA, very close to Philadelphia, and you would not believe the number of rednecks and racists out there! Just Friday night I was at a convenience store and a pick-up truck pulled in the parking lot – large confederate flag flying on the back. I see things like this all the time. And these people will proudly acknowledge that yes, they are redneck and they are racist. (As long as they're 'safely' in the suburbs...)
Cathy Glodzik
Sorry, I thought I wasn't goign to vote for Obama because I was too busy being bitter and clinging to my guns and religion. Now one of our own Congressmen says it's because I'm a redneck genetically unable to vote for a black man. Thanks for clearing that up for me, John.
Jack Murtha is an embarassment to the United States Congress, the State of Pennsylvania and the Democratic Party. Will his comments hurt Obama? Probably–as far as I know, Obama has not rejected his comments or in any way attempted to separate himself from them or Murtha. Silence is acceptance.
No!
Rednecks are too smart to vote for Obama or listen to Rep. Murtha. They will trust McCain and eventually kick Murtha out of Congress.
Patrick – Texas
You know, these comments shouldn't hurt anyone but Murtha.
It is long overdue for this man to "get on with his lifes work" as one great former Steelers coach would have put it.
Of course it will – even though Obama has nothing to do with the comments.
What will really hurt Obama in PA are his incendiary, elitist and out of touch comments that PA people hold on to their guns and bibles. "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them" is exactly what he said.
Racism is not a part of this campaign only the media and Obamas campaign is trying to make it. Obama you are buying your way into the white house and can care less about the average American or Joe the Plumber. You just lost my vote.
Mary, in Minneapolis – I doubt it if Obama ever had your vote.
If the tables were turned, republicans would have no problems with obama raising the money he did campaigning. Besides, the reason he's raised so much money is thanks to all the detestable campaigning and personal attacks the mccain/palin camp have done against him.
I myself have NEVER given to a political campaign, and once said I never would. Guess what, this year I did.
As for the Murtha issue, I don't believe this will affect Obama much, if at all. Murtha's comments, though dumb, are his own.
Sure it will Jack, just as Sarah Palin's comments about Obama "Paling around" with terrorist has hurt McCain's campaign. Murtha needs to keep his mouth shut if he cant say something positive and in good taste. Besides, you never know if all of those western PA "rednecks" will turn on him for calling them out!
I live in Pittsburgh. Yes there are many racists in these parts, west. Murtha is right. Rednecks voted for bush 2 times so I am guessing Mccain will win with the rednecks votes as well now in 2008. America is not ready for a change, we are still lagging behind and living in the 50s.
That remains to be seen Jack. If that region of PA is as Mr. Murtha described, he just energized those people and gave them something to do on election day, rather then drink beer and go hunting. What I find ironic.... Mr. Murtha, Mr. Lewis, and Mr. Wright are prime examples of "politics as usual" and an old school of thought that we need to get as far away from Washington as possible. If Senator Obama really is about change, I hope he remembers to look at his side of the aisle too.
I don't think his comments change a thing. What worries me more is the small mindedness of most people on this board. Bigotry and Racism runs both ways. I don't think anyone group has a true advantage when it comes to intolerance and hate, but what do I know I'm just a racist REDNECK!
No because Murtha has always been a Republican at heart. Please give him to them.
Jack – if Rep. Murtha's "redneck" comment adversely affects the Obama presidental pursuit, it would validate the claim.
One person's comment – merely because that person belongs to the same political party – should have not one thing to do with another person's pursuits.
Sad, silly conversation, to be sure. Wouldn't it be great if everyone involved in the two campaigns would focus on the REAL issues, instead of creating their own versions of what the REAL issues are?
Well, it's pretty obvious who the source of the comments are and thus taken into respect with the weight of such comments.
Just like anything Palin is yelling as she slowly disappears back into obscurity back to Alaska after Nov 4th.
Jack,
Why don’t you and Blitzer spend time on the things that Congresswoman Michelle Bachmamn, R Minn, said about investigating and hunting down un-American members of Congress? Neither Barak Obama nor Joe Biden have called the people of Pennsylvania rednecks or racists. Only people like right wing knee jerk Republicans would say that Murtha speaks for Obama. John Murtha is 76 years old with a military background roughly similar to John McCain’s background. Like McCain, Murtha does not have a reputation for diplomacy and tact.
The rednecks that I know are proud to be that way and don't mind being labeled as such. This comment should in no way effect Obama.
I'm sitting here reading everybody's comments and I'm somewhat perplexed. It seems people are seeing Obama as some sort of a savior but in reality he changes his rally cry constantly. He says what he feels people want to hear! He reminds me of a Sunday Christian,,,sitting on the front pew every week making sure everybody sees how holy he is, unfortunately as soon as they're out the door so does the christianity. I'm still amazed that people would vote for a president in that says he checks with his "wife" for imput on everything important. You know I would be scared to death what would happen at my husbands company if they relied on me for decisions on something that I don't have the experience nor expertise on. Don't get me wrong communication is good between a husband and wife,,,but unless she's hired for the job she shouldn't be doing it.
all i hope is that we do not elect obama just because he is black, to prove we are not racist. the man has to be qualified, that is the reason to vote for him, and is he?
Jack:
Welcome back and you are a true American hero !
Mr. Murtha's comments don't hurt Obama they hurt the United States of America. Think about it, what does it portray to the world.
Time to vote everyone and I mean every person out that is up for re-election. A straight flush and start over.
We can only hope Jack.
Jack, are you kidding me? Murtha is paraphrasing what OBAMA has already stated when he was on the left coast, "the people of PA cling to guns and their religion..." Murtha conveys the same twisted sentiment as Obama.
Not to worry though, the Obama Kool-Aide drinkers are tolerable (when it is one of their own) and can take continual criticisms of themselves by their "chosen" candidate.... Obama. Priceless!
Nah. The voters aren't going to base their votes on what Murtha says. They're going to vote their pocketbooks-and the majority trusts Obama on the economy.
....Murtha's comments won't hurt Obama anymore than the already damaging comments he (Obama) previously made about Pennsylvanians clinging to guns and religion.
Paul.
So you are either a Redneck or a racist if you do not vote for Obama? Since Obama won't denounce such statements he obviously supports that view.
I think Murtha should dust off the resume because he might be out of a job soon.
wouldn't using the term "redneck" now make Murtha the racist? That is a negative term used for only one race, isn't it?
thats right Jack welcome Back !!!!!!!!!
No, Obama has PA in the bag. I agree with Murtha, and a lot of people won't be happy about his comments. Luckily, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are all that matter, and we have far fewer racist rednecks there Well, at least racist rednecks that won't vote Obama. -Uh oh, did i just make a gaff.
Of course Obama should be held accountable for every foul word said on his behalf.
Uh.... people in Western PA ARE REDNECK. I know because I have lived there. I probably wouldn't say that at a press conference though.
I'm sure the McCain camp will pick it up and run with it. They will demand that Obama distance himself from Murtha. Of course, McCain isn't responsible for what his supporters say.
By the way, Jack-I'm from Michigan living 10 minutes from the Ohio border. Lot's of inter-racial marriages down here. The ones I know are all solid relationships. These kids represent America's future. Obama represents America's future.
I don't think so, though others would beg to disagree. I don't know who this guy is, but he's obviously not so big of a player in this game that I should know about him anyway. Fact of the matter is – he said what a lot of people are thinking (even myself, minus the whole redneck comment). It's true...a lot of people in that region will not vote for him because he is black (half black half white, to be exact). However, Murtha should have initially said that people should be voting on the ISSUES not the color of the person's skin. A simple endorsement would have gone a long way.
If Obama is responsible for Murtha's comments (which were deeply offensive to both rednecks and racists) then McCain and Palin are equally responsible for the "kill him" and "terrorist" shout-outs at their rallies. Fair enough?
If only the GOP war machine thought so...
Murtha has always been a racist, and is known as one of the most corrupt members of the House. I have no respect for him.
I would hope that no comments of his would affect people's decisions to vote for Obama.
With the political arena being dominated by non issues, it would be a surprise if it was not a topic. If grasping at straws is the new conservative strategy I would not be surprised to hear this comment repeated & deconstructed.
Sometimes the truth hurts doesn't it ?
Racist aren't honest enough to admit they are .
Murtha is not Obama.
Ayers is not Obama.
Wright is not Obama.
Jackson is not Obama.
Obama is Obama.
Why the flying flip would I give a rat's behind what Murtha said?
I care what Obama says. I care what he says he is willing to do to turn this country around and repair all of the horrible damage the Bush administration has created.
That's why I am voting for Obama. I like what HE has to say. I couldn't care less what all these other bozos are saying.
OBAMA is Obama.
Welcome back its time!!!
Oh please, everyone knows that there are millions of people refusing to vote for Obama because of his race. Just because they won't say so on the evening news doesn't mean they aren't out there. They ARE rednecks, they are usually rural, and they are almost always uneducated. Half my family is this type and I can tell you, they are far more cruel and judgemental than any liberals I know and yes they are VERY racist, but have learned to keep it behind closed doors.
If rednecks don't want to be considered ignorant and racist then they should stop acting ignorant and racist, they should stop saying that black people can't lead or that Obama's funny name means he is a terrorist. They should stop being mad at France for daring to have their own opinion (one that was CORRECT) and stop going into debt buying GIANT car and then complaining about gas prices that are still the lowest in the world.
It doesn't matter. "Racists" won't vote for Obama even if they don't know they are racist....
Hi Jack,
I missed you and i'm very glad that your back, the situtation room is not the same without you!
Mutha's comments won't hurt BO – Neither will Lewis's, Wright's, Pflager's, Farrakan's, etc............
It’s ashame we have to be so “politically correct” in this country. I have a lot of friends in PA and most of them consider themselves “redneck” and none of them are voting for Obama because he’s black.
I was in Pennsylvania over this weekend. I stopped in a chain restaurant and an Obama ad came on the television set. A booth of four children age 6 to 12 where sitting behind us and behind them in a booth were their parents. When the ad came on one of the kids pointed at the screen and said "Obama's not American" and another kid yelled "he's a Muslim". When I looked at the parents they nodded and laughed. That pretty much summed it up for me.
Murtha's comment will not hurt Obama because Obama is running on the issues, not the smear and fear of the past decade. If someone wants to vote for McCain because Murtha called them a redneck, well, they must be one, huh?
Obviously Obama cannot be held accountable for whatever Murtha says, but...
Pittsburgh is my hometown. I lived there for 24 years and I have gone back regularly for the past 23. It's a beautiful city full of great people.
BUT the fact of the matter is that Murtha is exactly correct. It is a very provincial area with a disproportionate number of backward-thinking people. The "rednecks" are a minority, but a real one. I heard the "n"-word in use on a regular basis among this crowd (including some friends and inlaws), and in the half of my life I've lived elsewhere I don't think I've ever heard it. That's the truth. It is the one and only aspect of my hometown that can be a source of embarrassment to me rather than pride.
You have to face the facts in order to change things.
Welcome Back Jack! The show isn't the same with out you !! Missed you so much , and was very worried about you !! huggs
Obama is not to blame for the racist remarks, i just hope and pray our country as grown enought to get over this stuff!! It is so sad!! Jack
God help us all
No, it will not.
The rednecks know who they are and wouldn't vote for Obama, regardless of Murtha being politically incorrect.
Jack, since I am an Independent, I hope it does. Barack and McCain are the same!! Why can't people just talk, just simple talk, "TELL IT LIKE IT IS, THE TRUTH"!!
Mary in Minneapolis, Obama never pledged to take public financing. He pledged to sit down with the other side and negotiate as to whether they both would. In any case, it is regular people like me who have given money to Obama, so I suppose you could say we donors (oh wait, we are also citizens and voters, just like you) are "buying" the election. I am glad to do so to get rid of the results of the last 8 years and prevent a repeat performance by John McCain and his ill-advised choice of a running mate.
We are rednecks, but the reason I will not vote for Obama has more to do with the fact that I am cling to my guns and religion. Sorry, I am out going to trade a couple hundred dollar tax break for my right to bear arms and for the innocent lives that Obama feels are not "real" people yet.
Missed you, Jack. You are appreciated.
Wow... you Dems are real good about holding McCain to the fire when any McCain supporter makes a disparaging remark.
But when one of Obama's supporters mouth off, Obama gets a pass.
Double standards indeed.
Hello kettle... the pot is calling you.
Obama's average donation was $86. His money was raised legitmately through small donations from people all across this great nation who want our country back from the hate-mongers and those who would divide us into "real" and "not real" Americans based on our own personal opinions.
He's absolutely correct. The racist redneck contingency of the U.S. has stifled progress, stifled race relations, stifled their own education, etc.
They breed ignorance and intolerance, in, not only PA, but across the U.S.A. DEATH TO REDNECKS! (showing some intolerant irony here, myself, but you get the point)
Jack,
Clearly you have never spent time in and around the Pittsburgh area. Western and Central PA have a history of racial and bigoted views towards blacks are other minorities this is a fact. People need to stop sugarcoating the facts. I have heard some of the most racist things in my life while living in Central PA directed towards myself and other family members because of the color of our skin. Murtha's comments are not going to hurt Obama because neither Obama or Biden said them. I don't see you writing stories about Palin's husband who is part of a group that wants to separate from the US and start their own country. Now that is a news story I would like to heard instead of the guilt by association the Republicans are doing to Obama. Who about McCains links to G. Gorden Liddy or Oliver North?
In a word: no. Obama didn't say it.
Obama can speak for himself. Jack, why is it that black folks who vote for Obama are called racists or they say blacks are only voting for him because he is black. Shouldn't we also call white folks voting for McCain racists or race the factor because he is white.
I'm hispanic and if a hispanic was nominatef for president I would be voting for him if he had the same knowledge and judgment as Obama or McCain.
It shouldn't hurt Obama, he didn't say it after all, but it might hurt Murtha, and even though i'm a Democrat, I can't say I would mind too much. Every time this guy opens his big mouth it hurts the party. Much respect for his wartime service, but if loses his seat I won't be too concerned.
Jack,
Maybe Murtha should've been Obama's running mate. Murtha is just a little more forward about his bias it than Obama. Murtha calls his constituents rednecks and racist, Obama just says they cling to guns and religion. I live in Western PA, I am glad Tim Murphy is my congressman not Murtha.
Any damage done by Murtha will be more than offset by bias reporting by CNN and MSNBC. Where is the story about Joe Biden's comments with a guarantee that Obama if elected will be challenged with an international incident within 6 months. Talk about stupid and you define Joe Biden, but all CNN wants to do is try to belittle Sarah Paylin.
Jack,
I doubt that John Murtha's comments will hurt Barack Obama. He is not a widely popular national figure. Furthermore, people are too concerned about the economy, jobs, gas prices, etc. to listen to the rantings of a loose cannon, whether it be Jeremiah Wright or John Murtha.
Absolutely not. Murtha's dumb comments won't impact Obama's popularity in any way. Anyone stubborn enough to be offended by such a comment probably wouldn't have voted for Obama anyway, and if they were going to vote for him, something as irrelevant as this wouldn't turn them away. But let's face the small element of truth in Murtha's comments. Openly racist Americans tend to be uneducated, and uneducated Americans tend to vote Republican.
Jack, I can't find the third question. I'm getting September 30th's question instead. Thanks.
You think Sarah Palin makes stupid comments??? Biden is the sultan of stupid comments!!!
Does anyone realize Obama is 1/2 white and his father was from Africa. So if you are hung up on not voting for him because he is black do so becasue he is white.
It's newsworthy because what Representative Murtha said is true.
If CNN thinks Sarah Palin is saying dumb things they should visit a Biden rally. That guy has been embarrassing himself for decades.
C'mon Jack! You and your unwavering support of Obama would never allow comments like that to hurt him! You would simply come up with more of your slanted questions to make McCain look bad like you always do. You are are a real tribute to unbiased journalism Jack.
Is there anyone anywhere who cares what Murtha thinks?
Any damage done by Murtha will be more than offset by bias reporting by CNN and MSNBC. Where is the story about Joe Biden's comments with a guarantee that Obama if elected will be challenged with an international incident within 6 months. Talk about stupid and you define Joe Biden, but all CNN wants to do is try to belittle Sarah Paylin.
Saint Marys, Ohio
Aw shucks....Pennsylvanians were no more racist or redneck in the past than West Virginians are at this very moment.
Re rednecks and racists. What's that saying Jack? If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck!
Re Socialism. I guess Senator's Palin and McCain won't be drawing any government pensions, Medicare or unemployment if they lose this election. That would be too close to being in favor of socialism wouldn't it?
For Heavens Sakes Jake
Most people have made up their minds, and for those who havn't likely won't even vote.
Jack, it might. And if it does, if these people whom Murtha called rednecks vote against Obama because of something someone not affiliated with his campaign said about them, then they're just proving Murtha right that they're rednecks and not intelligent voters.
Welcome Back Jack!!
Missed your commentary!
Yes the whole knows we have a lot of racists and bigots in this country...but the majority of Americans are so tired of the divisivness of the RNC and are so ready to change the direction of America.
Obama has proven for 18 months now that he can lead. His
choice of Joe Biden as VP proves he has great judgement. And
his demeanor will be proven in his foreign relations.
Good to have you back!
Jack, how was vacation? If that's the best question from a week ago you could come up with (and thus bringing back up), maybe youl should extend a little longer?
And just to clarify, I grew up in the Johnstown area and still just outside of Murtha's district.
Not as bad as prominent Repulicans blasting Sarah Palin, will hurt McCain!
HI JACK,
WELCOME BACK AND WE REALLY MISSED YOU.
I DO NOT THINK THAT IT WILL BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THERE MIND. IT IS DEFINATELY GOING TO HURT MURTHA'S POLITICAL CARRIER BUT NOT OBAMA.
Hi Jack,
Congresssman Murtha's continued struggle with hoof in mouth disease probably wont hurt Obama but it wont help!
Dicky Neely
Corpus Christi, Tx.
Jack. Glad to have you back. Now my wife will not have to hear my ranting. Murtha is probably right to some extent, but don't think too many people are tuned into him anymore. Silence is golden!
Yeah, when democrats say stuff like that, it's obviously out of context and missinterpreted....but when Republicans say it....it's mean-spirited and bigoted...
I'm surprised the Liberal media even covered the remarks....
No! And there are many rednecks and racist that are going to vote for Obama. I think they want their more concerned with what's in their bank accounts right now, no matter who gets things under control. Plenty of time for them to HATE later.
Sorry Jack, but I moved to PA 9 years ago. I am a hispanic, and none of my neighbors would speak or deal with us when we moved into our neighborhood. Still to this day they do not deal with us. My son was jumped at the bus stop and at school and called a spic. This is 2008 and the racism has only gone underground, but it is alive and well.
I'm afraid Mr. Murtha is correct.
Jack, I think you made a mistake here. You said Murtha was competing with Palin to see who could say the stupidest thing on the campaign trail. Now, Palin sounds rather discombobulated sometimes, but as far as saying "stupid" things, your man Biden wins hands down.
Oh, and by the way-to answer the question. I do not believe that Murtha's comments will hurt the Obama campaign. Murtha is a retired veteran and US Senator voted for by the people. So if Pennsylvanians have a problem with him...then they will take action on re-election day. Barack Obama believes in United we Stand....Divided we fall. This statement finally has come to fruition and is powerful. So I pray that we as a Nation can finally but race, gender, creed, and orienatation aside and do what is best for this great Nation.
As a Canadian, and former journalist, who has travelled extensively through 'middle America' (western Pennsylivania included), I find I have to agree with Murtha. I suppose one can say it is an unfair generalization to label an entire population, but there is such a significant proportion of U.S. rural folk whose opinions are reactionary, even reprehensible, that I believe it is fair comment to say certain regions are 'redneck.'
I have been around for 72 years. YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID!
I don't think this will hurt Obama, many people black and white in that area and around the country knows this to be true, however, won't confront it. What he has done is his attempt to bring the issue out of the closet in hopes that people will vote on issues. America needs to grow up and realive race is still an issue in the country and engage in dialouge in order to eradicate it.
Jack,
Senator Clinton as well as his running mate said he was not qualified to be Commander in Chief, How can Murtha hurt him ?
jesse tatro
Massena NY
It will not hurt Obama he is so outstanding and will win on his own merits. Murtha on the other hand better hang on when he is running for re-election. How insulting to all of us who have risen above the 20th century mentality of racist thinking.
Yea! Jack is back.....we missed you!
jack you dissapoint me! This is a stupid question and there are other issues today that favored your questions and our answers. Please, who is the redneck?
If this is the deciding factor for uncommitted voters then our election system is in some serious trouble...
Hurt? No. Won't change a thing. Being a white resident of Southwestern Pennsylvania and a constituent of John Murtha, I was actually proud of him for speaking the truth. I'm 44 years old and I still remember being in Junior High and seeing a cross burnt on the lawn of one of only the 6 black families that lived in my town. Washington County, south of Pittsburgh and north of Morgantown, West Virginia, is home to one of the largest KKK groups in the Mid-Atlantic. Suburban Pittsburghers won't go into Pittsburgh for fear of being shot and raped by blacks. Some in my own family have said they just can't vote for a black man, and then of course go to mid-week church services.
Jack – yes, Murtha's comment(s) were stupid, but so is you using the term "Democrat" instead of "Democratic" when mentioning it was "Democrat Representative, Jack Murtha", who said these stupid things. You don't need to use the Republic playbook. You're better than that.
if all that is true. how come obama is demanding a black person takes his seat in the senate if he wins?
Murtha, talk about redneck's your one yourself, not only a redneck but one who is un-patrotic to AMERICA. You the one who is like an ostrich
always in a hole in the dirt. Your the one who ought to be a shame of yourself, you anti-American and its ashame Marine was ever attached to your history. I am all for impeaching Murtha.
I doubt it will have much of an affect. It may affect Murtha's relection. I saw pictures of McCain supporters picketing outside a polling station. As long as they are the legal distance away that's ok with me, but they were saying that voting for Obama is voting for a baby killer. How stupid is that, Obama isn't pro-abortion, abortions have never been higher than the past 8 years, what Obama is against is demonizing the girls who got into this situation. He wants to reduce the number of unwated pregancies and provide better options then just the "you had the sex you pay the price" phylosophy. The "conservative" approach won't work until they figure out out to punish the guy instead of the girl.
Welcome back Jack. I just finished your book last night.
I don't think it will hurt Obama's chances too much but it sure as heck could impact Murtha's chances at reelection to the house, respected as he is. The racists aren't going to vote for Obama and the Obama supporters are going to try to prove him wrong. Keep up the good work by asking the tough questions.
Having spent time in the heartland of Missouri, I have been called worse things but including redneck. Though this couldnt be further from the truth, I cant help but taking insult to such remarks. The comments made by Murtha will probably help Obama because the people in Pennsylvania must feel insulted and would vote for Obama to spite Murtha's comments.
Why are people so offended when it is pointed out that racism still exists in this country. Racism exists still in some form on all levels of society. Recently a respected physician I know made a very disturbing racist remark to be about Obama. Racism is not as accepted by society (or the law) as it once was–but in a diminished form it is still here. I asked a Professior of History at U of Virginia (who happens to be black) how long he thought racism would be in the culture and he said 'another 100 years'. Thanks, Louis Zoellar Bickett II, Lexington, KY
The comments will not hurt Obama if they are true, and sadly, I believe they are true. There will be many people in this country, not just in that corner of PA, who will have to force themselves to vote or support someone different than themselves.
Isn't Rep. Murtha just putting an exclamation point on Sen. Obama's own words about bible/gun toting people in rural communities (aka racists and rednecks)?
Hello Jack:
Unfortunately, with many seizing on every word rather than the context in which the word was mentioned, the truth within expressed statements is for the most part overlooked.
In many sectors, Mr. Murtha's statements would be considered "barber shop" comments that many understand but are afraid to express. Please keep in mind, if both candiates were white the aforementioned discussions would not be taking place. It appears no matter how persons try to address the current election well meaning persons (such as Murtha) will be "stuck between a rock and a hard place."
Murtha comments is nothing in comparison on what OBAMA has said: " We waint to spread the wealth around". The reality check for that guy is a Socialist. He telling the hard working american that you must support the losers in this world, the people that did not study and get an education. The people that screwed around in life. The people that think the government OWES them everything because of their color or race or religion. The people which suck our tax dollars dry because they have entitlement problems.... Yep... that is who OBAMA want to help spread the wealth around too.... Wake Up America, you are not that stupid to elect a "TRUE" Socialist.... or are you.
I live in Southwestern PA and I am a Republican. I must say that in the area in which I live...small town south of Somerset...I must agree with Murtha....the majority of the people there are indeed "racist" and "red necked" in the town in which I live....the truth is painful..but
from my chair and front porch...Murtha was absolutely right.
Its clear Murtha is trying to have the Self Fulfilling prophecy effect by branding a large segment of people and hoping they follow through on being racist. Ed Rendell made the same comments campaigning for Hillary. For them to make those comments, their hearts and jobs need to be re-evaluated.
Hi Jack,
Welcome back !! We Canadians really missed you and we all wish you well.
No, Murtha's commetnst won't affect Barack. People are smart enough to know that Murtha is not the running for President, Obama is.
Gary,
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada
Born in Pittsburgh Pa., proud of it. Were you from Pittsburgh you would soon know.....no one is permitted to speak for the other guy....So will Murtha hurt Obama? Not on your life. Pennsylvanians think for themselves, they will go to the polls and vote for whom they deem the best. Hope most of them agree with my selection, even tho I now reside in Ohio.
It may not help but I guess someone had to say it. Call someone a name and they will only call you one back, ie socialist. Name calling doesn't work, setting an example does. He should have said, there is no place in this world for racism; vote the issues and facts; then clearly state your case. Collin Powell was right. The world is watching and the mudslinging is killing us outside this country.
The economic crisis proves how connected we all are and the world is looking for a strong leader through example. Shame on us. Follow Barack's lead. He refuses to play in the gutter.
It doesn't hurt to speak the truth... I thought he was talking about Arizonans, but then I red the story and he was talking about Pennsivanians... Well, that's the truth about Arizonans too.
Racism should not be a deciding factor when picking anyone running for any office. People should pick a candidate based on issues and knowledge. I do agree with Rep. Murtha and that people in the "T" tend to stick with old country beliefs that one race is superior to another but those beliefs are slowly dieing out. In the end though Rep. Murthas comments will only resonate with people that are easily impressionable. With only 14 days left, 95% of America already know who they are going to vote for and some are voting for one candidate based on race and that is their right. Welcome back, Jack.
Welcome back Jack; You have been sorrily missed!
These are not the words of Obama. Besides, there are more important issues that need to be the center of attention. As I said on numerous occasions, this election is not about Obama nor McSame. For me, economy is the #1 issue, healthcare is #2, education is #3, war in Irag is #4 and social issues #5. My choice is based on who is more in touch with every day Americans like myself and capable of making sound judgment. With that said,
GO OBAMA/BIDEN '08!!!
Why should the Congressman be chastized for telling what "more than likely" is the TRUTH
I live in Pennsylvania and I don't think that will effect much. I'm not sure about the number of uncommited voters in our state but by this time most people know who they're going to vote for and they've put up their barriers to the rest of what's going on in the next few weeks. Their candidate can do no wrong in their minds. I don't think the comments made by Representative Murtha will effect the presidential race at all. Obama is too far ahead in Pa for those comments to even have a real effect.
Another politician running off at the mouth isn't going to change anyone's mind; it hasn't so far, has it?
Having grown up in the South and now living in PA, I can tell you that if someone is racist, someone who engages mouth before brain like Murtha isn't going to matter to them. Those that don't find race an issue aren't going to find Murtha an issue... at least as far as voting for Sen. Obama. The concern should be more Murtha's as far as his retention abilities.
Let's hope so.
Jack, if you are willing to change your vote for President because your Congressman called you a name, you ARE a redneck.
There's racism in Pennsylvannia, there's racism in New York and there's racism in Alabama. If people want their lives to get better they are going to have to put racism aside. That alone will make things better. Electing Barak Obama president, a man who is clearly the better candidate, will make the statement that our commonality exceeds our differences. When Americans get on the same page there is nothing they can't do.
Considering how much time media repeats some of the comments from different people, I would suggest to make the most from the Powell's interview with "Meet the Press" when he endorsed Obama.
I was following this campaign from the beginning of primeries, and this is THE MOST THOUGHTFUL, THE MOST POWERFUL message I heard. Something is fundamentally wrong when answer to a woman at McCain's meeting "No, he is not an arab" is considered the right answer. He should have add: "There is nothing wrong to be an arab in this country." We should not judge people by their origin, religion, etc. It's time to start learning the difference between being an arab, or muslim by religion and terrorist.
I understand that Obama's campaign is afraid to defend muslims openly at this point, but it says more about country that has a long way to go. More power to Collin Powell for speaking up on this issue.
By the way, I am a 57 years old white woman, jew and atheist.
How long has this campaign been going on now? I doubt anyone is still listening.
Jack, elated to see you back. I believe that Murtha's comment may have been calculated, and was an implicit way to hurt Mr Obama's campaign
Donovan from Toronto
murtha's comments wont hurt Obama in western pa. i live in western pa and the comments i hear from people here about Obama makes murtha's comments true! its sad, but thats how it is here.
What a ridiculous question just two weeks before the campaign! I like you Jack, but did you feel a need to placate the McCain people by somehow linking Murtha's comments to Obama? Unfortunately Murtha does sometimes run off at the mouth, but he does not represent the campaign and Obama will win easily in PA.
Given that people have already stopped talking about them? I doubt it.
Jack take it easy on John. I too have the same problem with saying the wrong thing. It isn't planned, it just happens and you don't reliase it for a couple of days. John
Murtha's comments are just simple facts of the American society racism is still one of a factor not the factor in this election.
Every time I turn on CNN I get frustrated at the way you phrase things in favor of the democrats. They just said that Palin was accusing Obama of being a socialist. The last time I looked, redistribution of the wealth was one of the tenets of socialism. She is stating fact, not accusing him of anything untrue.
As for Murtha, the people of Pennsylvania should be embarrassed by him and get him out of office.
Bud Weber
Helena, Alabama
I'm originlly from that area, and no, Murtha's comments won't hurt Obama at all. People in that area for the most part have already made up their minds. Those who are open minded enough will vote their wallets – and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of those saying they won't vote for Obama to their buddies and neighbors in public pull the lever for him in the privacy of the voting booths. This area has been hit incredibly hard by the economic downturn of the past 8 years.
Jack the people who were going to vote for Obama I beleive are smart enough to do so inspite of what has been said. On the other hand those who were NOT going to vote for him anyway can always use this for an excuse.
Welcome back, Jack. No, Murtha's comments won't hurt Obama in PA. My in-laws live in Pittsburgh, and sad to say, Murtha was right on the money. There is deep racism there, and they actually seem proud of it. I don't get it, but there it is. We can only hope the open-minded are in ascendancy in the rest of PA.
Something is wrong in these postings...... censoring or removal of any pro McCain comments..... EVERYONE is NOT for Obama!!!!
Jack,
I live in Western Pa. Jack Murtha's comments will not hurt Barack Obama. My vote still goes for Obama. I'll still vote for Murtha even though he put his foot in his mouth. He's a good representative.
Most of the people I know are looking at the issues not the race card.
How in the world does this get such attention as opposed to the NC congressman who said liberals hate people who love God. And Sarah calling some Americans not real. Or the congresswoman who called for an investigation of the members of congress for hating
America. etc etc... Better still, how about issues like economy. Every second you spend on Non News hurts our country...better yet, instead of focusing on any of this, and instead of putting representatives from each side to just yell talking points, how about getting to real news. REPORT whats happening. Leave the crap alone, everytime I leave Jim Lehere and check out CNN I am quickly reminded why I left the ratings obsessed mainstream media to begin with. Bye.
I think it will hurt Senator Obama because it will remind everyone of his comment about people being bitter and holding onto guns and religion.
people have pretty much decided who their going to vote at this point, if it's not coming from the candiates, it's just talk.
I think its only going to hurt the person who said it. If they are voting because of principal then whatever was said really really shouldn't have any bearing on Obama. The real story here is an article in Rolling Stone Magazine, Oct. 16th 2008. written by Tim Dickinson. Make-Believe Maverick– A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty. This is a scary person who has the Republican Party fooled as well as the Americans who think they are voting for a hero?
Jack,Murtha told the truth.Unfortunately there are "rednecks &"racists" everywhere in America.I know that because I live in southern VA.& there are plenty of "rednecks"&"racists"in VA. too!!Fortunately,there are also lots of Americans who want what is good & right for thier country,regardless of race,religion,etc.Those are the Americans that will ignore the comments Murtha made(even though he was right on)&his comments will not change how they will vote.It's a shame that some Americans live in the dark ages.
I am a redneck from Montana that is voting proudly for Obama. I don't think the word "redneck" is terribly offensive – to us, it's almost a badge of honor. I think there a much worse words to be called – like "Republican," or "Alaskan Governor."
Barack is not responsible for what other people say without his permission or knowledge. Murtha did dig a hole and is not doing himself any good by continuing to dig. Barack did not say tis.
Why should it hurt Barack Obama? It may hurt Murtha. The truth tends to do that sometimes – just like lies.
Jack so good to see you back..I quit watching when you were away.
As to Murtha, intelligent persons are not going to vote against Obama because of his remarks...like McCain he (Murtha) is an old fool that needs to be put out to pasture and let less irratic people take charge
I think Mr. Murtha comments were right on time, however not all are redneck , 50%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Having lived in Pa for sometime, I can assure you that very few if any of us (Independents) listen to a word that old quack has to say. Another reason NOT to vote for another old white man to a major political office. I liked (past) McCain until he sold out. Too bad, Pa will go to Obama regardless of Murtha. FYI I am white, retired from 24yrs in the USN, and sick to death of this political back stabbing esp from someone as uninformed as Palin.
Glad you are back.
Yes Obama will be hurt with that segment that might not vote for him anyway.
What's wrong with being a redneck in any case?...and a racist won't vote for Obama,... and only a racist thinks like a racist and calls others racist.
So it amount to just a sad sad case and wish it didn't occur
Hello Jack,
Being a resident of Western PA, I would have to agree with what Murtha originally said about the region being racist. Racism is prevalent in this area whether people decide to admit it or not. However, I do not think those comments will hurt Obama in PA for the simple fact that people already have there minds made up.
no, my husband is a redneck, but he loves Obama, and has rallied for him to his redneck friends and he is MIKE THE MECHANIC
Jack, I am a black American and I have faith in this democracy. These "rednecks" did manage to abolish slavery and to give women equal rights. I feel like white Americans are getting a bad rap. Almost all white Americans are good hard working people and calling them "rednecks" is unfair and disrespectful. I have voted in 4 elections and have had no problem voting for a white candidate therefore I see no reason why a white American would have a problem voting for a black American.
Kevin
A non-Obama vote is not a racist vote-but still, many will not vote for him because he is black. There's a difference. Let's hope that those who agree with Obama, but have misgivings about his race, will split the difference and not vote. The people who Murtha offended would not vote for Obama anyway.
I don’t think this will hurt Obama. This question is being asked, as though “Rednecks” never existed in Pennsylvania or other parts of this country. After the display broadcasted at a recent Palin rally, Redneck is a lite touch. Many would call many of them outright Racist.
Jack, good to have you back. It won't mean much to Obama's
campaign but it may hurt Murtha's chances next time. Folks have already made up their minds on who they support and the rest are just sitting back laughing at these political antics (rotflmao)
Elite has become the Republican buzz word this election year _ Media Elite, Liberal Elite, and for the Republicans who are jumping ship, Republican Elite. It makes me wonder _ what is the opposite of elite? Maybe Murtha has the answer _ Redneck.
Judy Harden
Fort Worth, Texas
Hi Jack, good to see you back!
I don't think it's hurting Obama because Murtha gives comfort to the rednecks who heard those type of comments before and they won't change their views any way. All the others understand pretty well what he means and they don't care...Thank you Jack.
For years I have had to listen to two candidates say things that might be viewed as racist or out of touch, but as a black man those were the only two candidates I had to choose from. Now white America has the same choice. They have to choose from these two people no matter what anyone says about them, or the person that may or may not speak for them. I believe peoples minds are already made up.
why ofcourse obama is not responsible for his party members, his pastor, his realtor rezko , his educational minister ayers, minister of propoganda " I never been proud of my country " Michelle obama...
Do we hold god responsible for the bad people in the world ?
hi jack...we missed you lately on cnn..good to see you back and giving another point of view for all americans..i don't think his comments will affect the votes for obama because the american people are now concentrating on the issues that will affect the nation,not race..take care..we love here in Hawaii!
jack welcome back,it hurts Obama because people can vote McCain just to PUNISH murtha
Welcome back Jack. I was born and raised in Johnstown and listened to some of the older gereration all my life. Muirtha wasnt totally wrong but there are plenty of fair reasonable people still live in his area. Will it hurt Obama . No ,anyone who wasnt going to vote for him wont no matter what murtha says. ps. Is anyone else getting as tired of hearing about Joe the would be plumber as much as the bridge to nowwhere?
I kind of hope that McCain brings up Wright, which will fully turn off the country who has heard all that mess already. John McCain is useing the Scorded Earth Tatict while the whole world is watching. He is willing to hurt our country even more for the office of the President.
If Murtha was running for the Vice President spot then it would/should reflect on Obama. This is not the case and I don't know why you would compare a supporter's words to a the Republican Vice Presidental nominee
Murtha may have cost himself some votes in the future though.
The truth hurts and Murtha is right. Luckily for Obama anyone who is offended by Murtha's comments probably wasn't going to vote for him anyway.
Knucklehead's comments won't hurt Obama at all. The people in this region who are offended are the ones who have said they will not vote for Obama. I have lived in Western Pennsylvania all of my life (Butler County for most of it, which is one of the only red counties in the state). My family lives in the region and I have canvassed for Senator Obama. I am amazed at how many people said flat out that he or she would not vote for, and I quote, "That black muslim." As tasteless and tactless as Rep. Murtha has been, he is at least accurate in describing the area and the overt racist feeling.
BTW, I do not believe that Murtha's remarks will hurt him. The folks he may have offended have already made up their mind to vote for McCain. Don't let anyone fool you – this is definitely a racial election. I have talked to many folks here in Maryland and Delaware. Here are a few notes: my wife's hairdresser told her that many of her clients would not vote for Obama because he is black; just today, a black heating repair man told me that smeone told him that they would leave the country if Obama gets elected. As for me, a white retired Air Force officer, I am voting Obama-Biden. We don't need another fighter pilot in the White House!
Sure hope so! Our Lt. Gov. Daniel Mongiardo called US racist, and ignorant because Hillary carried Ky., and he was for Obama.
Redneck From Ky., and proud of it.
Jim
it wouldn't make a difference if i'm already a racist or a redneck. however; i could become one if i vote against obama because of murtha's comment. it's a nice litmus test come nov. 4th.
They say the truth hurts. When you stand back and look at the mentality and political astuteness of some of these people, the term redneck seems kind
How are you Jack? Well, it may hurt Obama but not as bad as it is hurting McCain on his judgement for picking Sarah Palin as V.P. and his nasyty negative campaigning for the last few weeks.
NO..............Just an old man who is out of touch with reality, and should keep his thoughts to himself.........it will not effect our next President (Barack Obama)....the American voting public realize this.
P.S. Welcome back Jack....I was going through some Cafferty withdrawal...hope all is well with you and yours.
Jack,
If Obama (or McCain for that matter) cannot possibly be held responsible for each and every one of their surrogates' remarks on all kinds of issues!
Rep. Murtha's comments are his own individual opinion that some of us may or may not agree with and should not be construed as anything more than that.
We are suffering from a gross overdose of 'Analysis Paralysis' in this Election season, so let's just please focus on the candidates themselves and their policies!
As a portion of the non-racist native western Pennsylvanian population, I will not be changing my vote for Senator Obama Because of Rep. Murtha's comments. But don't worry Sen. Obama all the racists I grew up with weren't voting for you anyway.
the comments by murtha only hurt murtha. While there are
people who are racist, and rednecks do exist also--namecalling is
something i always taught my children NOT to do.
The words of our mouths can hurt or heal.
People are fired or voted out
for the words that they speak.
People are elected and supported also, for words they speak.
We prefer to be encouraged and lifted up.
Lesson : Choose your words carefully. There are consequences.
As a 34 year old white male living in western, pa for 15 years I agree with rep. Murthas recent comments, I have disappointing first hand experience with the fact that collegues, friends, and family who support the democratic postion wont be voting for Obama due to his race. This election has been a real eye opener as to how far some people have not come.
Comments by John Murtha will do no harm to Obama. The only thing that harms Obama as well as all of us is a person basing their vote on skin color and not what is best for this country.
I do not think Rep. Murtha's comments will hurt Obama.
Any white person who has already made up his/her mind to vote for Sen. Obama will not be swayed away from him because of those remarks.
Those offended by it are maybe blinded by racism anyway.
Sadly I think John Murtha might know his people. The problem with the race issue is no one wants to truthfully and fully address it. Racism comes in many shades and levels. While some white people may have Black friends, they may not trust a Black man to run the country. Some white people just don't like nor can't trust Black people completely. Things will not be truly fair until more "minorities" are in the mainstream.
Jack,
What is mutha thinking? The Republicans are so desprit they will take anything said (Rush, Sean Hanity and Ann Coulter) and run with it.
I think Murtha has served his time and it may be time for some new Democratic blood in office. Murtha comment resembles a Rush comment that will never bring people together.
Ken
Louisiana
Anyone who knows Rep. Murtha knows he says what is on his mind, but does not intend any harm. I am an Obama supporter; but isn't it interesting how it's okay for minorities to mention race, but it's not okay for whites to do the same?
Jack, I've got to say I really do believe Murtha's comments could have a negative effect on PA's view of Obama. As a Pennsylvania Democrat in Philadelphia, I'm scared. I think many of the Republicans in "the T" of PA are still feeling scorned from Obama's comments about "clinging to guns and religion." I think Murtha may have rehashed those wounds.
Jack, so glad you're back. I'm white. I live in PA. As for Pennsylvania having rednecks and racists as part of our population, Congressman Murtha is totally correct. I'm an independent, and I have been shocked at the amount of people I have known a long time who refuse to vote for a black man. These people would rather vote for failed policies which is hurting the US than voting for someone who has a different skin tone. I would guess that 5% – 10% of the voting public in PA will not vote for a black man. Sorry to say it but this country has a long way to go on race relationships.
in a simple word, NO!!!!!!!
nancy
Why bother to give crediability to this fool, this is what is causing it to be a racist race, it is constantly thrown in our face. I hate to say it but I'm a white male married to a beutiful black woman. There are a lot of children out there that are bi-racial, and the only idiots trying to keep racism alive are the " OLD WHITE" Men. Tell them sorry but they have outlived their time. Glad to see your Back Jack. Situation room just isn't the same without you.
john Murtha should have been a Republican , with ideas like that
he should go along with Congresswoman Of Minnessota Michele
Bachmann and Sarah Palin, launch all of them to outer space and
leave them there!
To point out racist behavior by calling someone a racist is not to label someone with a slur, but rather, to make a factual assertion. If the people who are racist in Western Pa are offended, I doubt if it will have a negative impact on Obama's campaign. Afterall, the racists weren't likely to vote for him anyhow.
If someone else can change your vote then you don't need to be your voting to begin with. Use your own judgement make your own decision.
Jack, let me say welcome back. But I have to say there is nothing wrong with calling a redneck a redneck. I know plenty of Americans who call themselves that with pride. They even have their own TV shows like "My Redneck Wedding". These individuals are a clear identifiable demographic, made up of some racists, and many idividuals who still hold with seperatist ideals. It is no shock that they will vote as Murtha suggests, he is not saying all white people are rednecks, just that there alot that live in a specific region. That just sounds like rational truth, and I appreciate the unfiltered honesty in the face of a difficult issue. Remember, Palins husband sided with this same group in Alaska.
Senator Obama transcends so many of the old ways of politics that Jack Murtha will barely be a blip – as a Canadian I envy your dynamic political season (18 months worth of seasons!). In comparison, it is beyond boring to watch/listen/read our politicians and unadventurous, lazy media.
P.S. Joe Biden rocks and is a greater asset to the Democratic ticket than the US media give him credit for ...
Unfortunately, Murtha's comments will probably hurt Obama. He spoke the truth, but these people are racist. They also fear that qualified blacks may replace them in the job market.
Jack,
No one cares. People are suffering. They are having to choose between buying gas to get to work and whether they can buy themselves something to eat. This is getting out of control. Obama can't be held responisble for every democrat in the country and what they say. I can guarantee that people will not even bat an eye when they read these comments. Times are too hard for so many of us right now. Let's talk about what we are going to do to get ourselves out of this mess, not about petty garbage such as this.
Kasey,
in sunny Los Angeles
Why should the Congressman be chastized for telling what "more than likely" is the TRUTH about that section of the state of Pennsylvania? If the walk like a Redneck...talk like a Redneck....then duhhh.....they must a Redneck!! The new Obama Administration should assign a couple of minority Federal inspectors to that area of the state........to enforce any possible discrimination laws which may be getting broken by the local Rednecks....
Heck at this day and time lets just be honest "it is what it is."
Sometimes the truth hurts. Obama made the same mistake with talking about holding onto your guns and church.
Another subject, Jack, why isn't election day a national holiday so we all have a chance to vote? Shouldn't that day be the 'greatest day' in a democracy?
As a Pittsburgh native, these remarks made by Rep. Murtha are both disturbing and appalling. I have not come across one Family Member or Friend who isn't voting for Obama. People in Western PA are tired of the Politics as usual and looking for something different, a change that only Obama can bring. As far as Rep. Murtha referring to his constituants as "racist" is absolutely unfounded and untrue. Maybe it's Murtha who needs to be voted out of office! He's obviously is out of touch with Western PA because we are more then ready for an African American President.
I don't believe so. I think it may have the reverse effect; with more willing to vote for Obama to prove a point. But, really, they should vote for whoever they think will be a better president, and vote for whoever runs against Rep. Murtha the next time his seat is up for election.
Jack, I was born and raised in Western PA. Jack Murtha is absolutely right about a good many of the western PA citizens. He is not saying that they are bad people, he is just stating the facts as they are. This will only change through experiencing change under governance such as Obama and his administration will provide. I love my relatives however I certainly have a broader world view than they do.
Good to have you back Jack!!!! Listen, the foolish comments made by Murtha are downright sickning to all of us who believe in change. You see if we consider the fact that all of Americans in this rich diverse culture are racist against a African Americian then we should quickly take out one nation under God, and continue this order of alligiance with the word divisible because that is what we consider will serve the people of white descent, and throw away those folks who work to be a sucess in a country and are a different color, in which the principals of equality are jeapordized. In other words shame on Murtha.
I doubt Murtha's comments will hurt Obama much, if any, in Pennsylvania. We can only hope that they hurt Jack Murtha, one of America's worst enemies and liabilities in government.
From what I heard, these words did not come out of Barack Obama's mouth , so why would it matter
We need to stop assuming that anyone can speak for Obama
You know what happens when you ASSuME anything in this life
Welcome Back Jack.. and No to your question.
Murtha is basically right. Doesn't matter what Murtha said because it won't change the fact there indeed are a lot of ignorant people that vote NOT by the facts...but due to biased views shaped by bigotry and ignorance.
I do not believe Murtha's comments will hurt Obama at all. Win he wins PA it will just prove his misshaped comment wrong.
Welcome back Jack. Murtha is speaking the truth. Pennsylvania is full of crazy red-necks (at least the rural areas). Murtha and Biden are old rednecks who have lost touch with reality. They are definitely two state ambassadors Pennsylvanians will not appreciate. Barrack has surrounded himself with losers! Welcome back Jack!
Murtha is not Obama's running mate. This should not affect Obama anymore than off color statements made by members of the Republican party.
Any white person who does not vote for Obama is a racist red-neck.
It wasn't the most eloquent thing for Mertha to say, but if anyone knows PA, understands reality and the world we live in then they will agree with him.
I went to high school in the state of PA and graduated 10 years ago and let me tell you any HS that allows for the Ku Klux Klan to come to the school and recruit (like the one I went to), and any community that the KKK views as a viable center for recruitment has their fair share of "rednecks" and "racists".
Of course not. At least not in any significant way.
Jack, I missed you – glad to have you back. Does the US realize that the whole world is watching this internal hatred. If this hatred is so prevelant at home, how can the world expect anything else but hatred and ugliness from McCain and Palin should (God forbid) they get in.
It wouldbe very wise for most of theones not running for any thing to go hybrinate until the election , is over that way we wouldn;t have to waste timelisting to the news reporters , reporting on negetive situation.
Hi Jack! Glad to see you back! Absolutely, the comment that Murtha made could hurt Obama, however, everyone should be able to distinguish between the candidate and the big mouth! Why would anyone make such a stupid comment? This is why I say, "Out with the old and in with the new"! It's bad enough to have Biden out there making his goofy remarks. I'm holding my breath for 2 more weeks!
Diana
Tucson, AZ
I don't think anyone except an obama supporter is allowed to post on this section. Will Murtha's comments hurt...smart people hope so. Smart people don't want Obama as president. It's a measure of how far this country and its people's self respect has fallen that we have gotten to the place where someone like Obama could even be considered a candidate for president.
The question isn't "will this hurt Barack Obama". The question is "what does this have to do with Barack Obama?". I thought we were out of the "He knows a guy who said something awful" phase after the whole circus surrounding the pastors of the candidates. Are we really digging that hard to find correlations between the Candidates and the people who barely have any relation ship to them outside of being in the same party or church? I think this will hurt the media more than Barack Obama, for people seeing how low reporters are willing to go to try to create a relation where none exists.
Mary in Minnie, you need to look a little further into that fundraising argument. If Obama had taken public financing, that would be $85 mill from taxpayers who may or may not support him, rather than $150 mill just from supporters. Furthermore, he could then funnel all other donations through the DNC, just as McCain currently direct donors and fundraising bundlers to the RNC. There's no difference in the amount one is able to raise, but just the amount of direct control over it and how much they take from taxpayer funds.
Sadly Jack, there are a lot of people out there who do racist things and then call themselves bible-loving Americans.
No Jack, the comments will not affect Obama, people have already made their opinions about the canidates, I believe all this undecided garbage is ridiculous. You either want someone who is not capable of changing anything or someone willing to expand their ideas on the information as they deem it fit. I am from Western PA and sadly the people are rednecks. They still believe that he is a Muslim or in cohorts with a terrorist. There is a huge racist undercurrent in this area, it's disgusting, and this is coming from a 30 year old white gentile male surrounded by orthodox Jews. Plus, when they get their news from "unbiased" redneck Fox news it doesn't help much either.
I certainly hope Barack Obama will not be hurt by this. He has done such a great job of avoiding that kind of divisive language. If the comment didn't come for Barack no one should hold him responsible. Does anyone really hold Murtha responsible for such a slip-up. He's 76 years old. The same age John McCain would be at the end of his first term...
I wonder if Murtha realizes that Obama's own grandparents are what he'd probably call "rednecks" from Kansas.
Welcome back Jack! Senator Obama isn't responsible at all and I am sure the voters know that. I have a question for you? Why isn't the day we elect our president and the leader of the free world a national holiday? The election of our President is one of the most single important days in our country and to sit around and watch the reports of the long lines and people having to leave before being able to vote because they have to return back to work is crazy. If it was a National Holiday we wouldn't have these issues. The Presidents Day Holiday should be celebrated in November during our national election. That way we could reflect and pay respects to all our past presidents as we are electing our new leader.
Welcome back jack,
I don't think the comments will hurt Sen. Obama after all Mr. Murtha is not telling us anything we don' t already know. besides there are American blacks that will not vote for Obama, just like there are American whites who will not vote for Mccain so I think it will balance out in Mr. Obama's favor!!!!
Jack!!! i am glad you are back. the only reason i watch CNN for 2 hours is just to see you for 5 minutes. the reason why people in other countries prefer Obama over Mccain is because they want to deal with somebody who is honest, smart, and someone who would NOT bomb people and kill the messenger.
you damn moderator, can u please post at least on of my comments, i'm sure you will post this on.e
Murtha is from the old white boys network which is alive in well in any towns in america, not just Western Pa. I dont consider myself racist, just a white woman reagan democrat voting for obama because I agree with his policy tax the rich and feed the working poor
From Tim in Colorado Springs
Murtha's "redneck" comment won't hurt Obama any more than Palin's "real America" comments will hurt McCain.
For the record. I'm a redneck and I'm voting for the Democrat.
Welcome back Jack... its good to see you
I dont think Seantor Obama should be responsible for what comes out of anothers mouth.We are all responsible for our own words and actions
For those who think Obamas donations are coimg from foreign
countries I am a Canadian and tried to donate to his campaign a cpple times and was turned down bc I am NOT american !!!
If I could have I would have donated in a heart beat!
Of course other countries welcome Obama. They can push him around and get their way.
If we're going to hold Murtha and/or Obama responsible for Murtha's words, then we also need to hold McCain & Palin responsible for Rush Limbaugh's continuous hate filled rants and for the Fox News bias shown all day every day. Fair & Balanced my foot!!!
Elizabeth in Texas
One rogue Democrat won't offset the scores of hate-filled Republicans spewing their rhetoric. The American voters are smarter than that!!!
Obama '08!!
It's hard to say, but I can't imagine it will hurt him much. If anything, it might actually help, in that people want to defy that stereotype.
In all likelihood, however, it will not matter, particularly if Obama retains his double-digit lead in Pennsylvania.
Jack - Good point about digging a hole deeper. Murtha should cut and run from this one.