Does Hillary want Obama to win?
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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Hillary Clinton apparently hasn't gotten the message yet that it's over.
She's now trying to find a way for her delegates to be heard at the Convention, saying it will help unify the party. And, she hasn't ruled out having her name placed into nomination.
Clinton told supporters at a California fund-raiser last week that the party will come out stronger if people feel their voices were heard. She spoke of an "incredible pent up desire" on the part of her supporters, saying people want to feel like it's "a catharsis" and then they'll get behind Barack Obama. It's beginning to sound like group therapy.
Watch: Cafferty: Is Clinton over it?
Under DNC rules, Clinton would have to submit a request to have her name placed in nomination. She says no decisions have been made. But several groups of her supporters are planning marches and demonstrations in Denver, and collecting petition signatures to nominate her.
Time Magazine reports that while in public Clinton is doing everything she's been asked to help Obama, behind the scenes it's a different story. Associates say Clinton is still skeptical that Obama can win. And if he loses, that could set the stage for her to run again in 4 years.
And then there's Bill Clinton who continues to pout. Earlier this week he refused to tell an interviewer if he thought Obama was ready to be president, instead giving some lame excuse that "nobody is ever ready" and that the Constitution sets out qualifications for president.
Needless to say, none of this is helpful to Barack Obama. His campaign and Clinton's put out a joint statement saying that they're working together and the party
Here’s my question to you: Do you think Hillary Clinton wants Barack Obama to win?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Gail from Woodstock, Illinois writes:
In reality, no. She is not a team player. I still worry about her and Bill turning this convention on its head. She wants to bring a vote to the convention floor using Florida and Michigan's full votes to topple the nomination of Barack Obama. If this scenario plays out, the Democratic Party will have a rift so large, we will never win another national election.
Carlo from Baker, Louisiana writes:
Truth is, Jack, we can't read her mind. All we can go on is what we see. I see a woman who created an army of monsters in her attempt to clinch the nomination, and her polarizing politics not only alienated Democrats, but has vitalized the GOP. They are using HER words against Obama as we speak. Perhaps she regrets some of the things her campaign did. However, the PUMAs and the other bitter supporters are like runaway trains, and I don't think even Hillary Clinton can press the brakes on them.
Ralph from New York writes:
No, Jack, but can you blame her? It is hard to sit on the sidelines or campaign for Obama, knowing she won at least half of the popular vote and so many elected delegates. Obama did not win the primaries by a blowout, and while she wants to be considered loyal to the Democrats, I am sure the Clintons would love to see a movement at the Democratic National Convention giving her the nomination.
Therese writes:
Jack, The Clintons are campaigning for themselves to win in 2012 and they will step over Senator Obama to get their victory. Shame on them both for putting their own ambitions above the party goals. They may think they have loyal supporters now, but if the Republicans win in November, many of us will hold the Clintons responsible.
Denise from Brooklyn, New York writes:
The only answer that comes to mind is that fact that you are desperate to create fodder where there is none. Thank you for taking a moment to expose yourself and your associates for the mud diggers that you are.
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she doesnt care.she wants her money back,tho.and her 'supporters' wont cough up.
Hillary does – William doesn't.
I'm confident that Barack Obama will have an important role for Hillary. Maybe not as VP but she will lead the effort for universal health care.
I certainly hope so! I hope her supporters do as well. Would be sad to throw our country in the toilet just because they are sore losers.
Ostensibly, yes. Deep down, heck no. If he wins she has no chance of running for another eight years. If he loses, she will be the anointed one for 2012 with a big fat "I told you so!" smile on her face.
Who knows what politicians really want!
Yes and no. I think she would much rather be on the ticket than supporting another candidate, but, to do her justice, I really do think that she wants to see the end of the Republican monarchy. She wants what is best for the country, as seen through her own set of blinders. I think she has good intentions, but she is so very polarizing, I can't help but be glad, in a way, that she isn't the presumed Democratic nominee.
I don't think she wants him to win, but she has to help him win. If he loses, she will be blamed and her political career will be toast!.
Jack
Hillary wants Hillary to win the election. Hillary is in a dream world and still thinks its a year and a half ago when she was on the top of the world. I really dont think either Hillary or Bill give a rats ass if Obama wins or not.
In her heart no.but she will be a good democrat until he cant win then she might go for it at convention.Which I would love because I believe he is socialist. george c paree anderson indiana
Jack, I think Hillary wants Obama to lose by 20 to 30 Electoral votes and she wants Obama to lose Michigan, Florida, and Pennsylvania so that she could say, “See, I told you about those key battleground states.” A close loss along with losing those battleground states bolsters her case for another run in 2012.
No. She doesn't even want him to get the Democratic nomination.
If Obama is feeling like he 'wrenched' his back during a basketball shoot, it might be a knife being twisted a little.
I doubt it, and why should she? Having been in the White House for eight years, she knows more than most people what is required of a President, and she probably knows that Obama is not ready. One could pick hundreds of Dem Senators or Representatives who have far better resumes, but no it has to be him, for reasons that I will never understand.
I suspect that Mrs Clinton is like many of us when it comes to this situation: she likely doesn't want EITHER of the presumptive nominees, but she might consider McCain to be the lesser of the two evils. But she realizes that the Clinton machine was not as powerul as the DNC / media machine, and her bid was doomed from the start, so she feels that she must let this charade play out.
Is she waiting for 2012? Probably, but I suspect that the DNC will have some new, perfectly politically correct, nominee for us then. Perhaps SF Mayor Gavin Newsome? Perfect! He could make a statement and then lose 50 states!
Hillary is the second most famous Democrat in the country now. The better Obama does in November, the better the Democrats will do.
That means more power for her in the Senate (or perhaps, in a Cabinet position–not VP, due to all the financial improprieties).
OF COURSE, she wants Obama to win.
No, she doesn't. She will never publicly admit it, but her ego is so big, she still thinks she should be the nominee. Even on the night Obama cinched the nomination she was still talking about herself. I think she also realizes that if he is elected, he may serve two terms. If that happens, she's finished, because she will be too old to be elected President eight years from now.
No, Jack, neither Hillary or Bill want Barack Obama to win the election.
What they'd like to have happen is for John McCain to win and serve out a four-year term so that Hillary can run in 2012. Reasoning being that, based on McCain's advanced age, the best he could hope to serve would be only one term.
On the other hand, if Obama wins the election, he would most likely go for two terms. By then, 2016, Hillary will be close to seventy years old, and far past her prime.
It would be wise of Obama to not encourage or accept the Clintons campaigning for him. They could only serve to further damage him as they did during the primaries.
Hillary is not about to give up. She is still going to do her pitch at the Democratic National Convention to get them to give her what she wants. It ain't over until it's over for Hillary. If you will notice, she "suspended" her campaign rather than concede.
no.....she and Bill still cannot believe she lost
She wants to "appear" supportive, but deep down she wants another shot at it in 2012 and that can only happen if Obama loses. She will say the right things in public, but watch out for the "behind the scenes" moves. The good of the party and the good of the country are secondary to her personal political aspirations in my view.
She wants him to win so bad that she hasnt made any news about her campainging for him in two months. What a gal
Of course not. I can't believe anyone ever thought she did. She's lying just like she lied throughout the primary. Her own political gain is her only concern.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08
She has a right to still be angry at Obama. He played the race card on Hillary and her supporters (Bill Clinton, Geraldine Ferrara, etc.) even though they were not racists. Anytime someone criticized Obama they were labelled a racist. And the MSM gave Obama a "pass" on hard questions until the famous SNL skit poking fun at them. Then, over the final three debates Obama was asked some hard questions and Hillary outperformed him. And she won the majority of the remaining primary elections. So, I think it may be pretty understandable that Hillary feels like she got railroaded in the primary. Don't you?
No Bill and Hillary don't want Obama to win. She'd love to come back in four years after a failed McCain stint. The Clintons are much like the whiners who keep crying cause their candidate lost. The Clintons and their supporters are the epitome of spoiled whining Americans.
Jack,
After what the present administration has done to this country, it is shameful that Sen. Clinton and her husband will want to aloow themselves to used to send another repblican into the white house.
As much as she wants to be there and win, I believe she really wants the democrats to win. It is just the flawed republican ideas she supports now and then that tend to make me not want her in the race. Yanno? Like the war in Iraq and removing gas taxes for the summer.
Hey Jack, there is nothing new. Bill Clinton said during the primary "Obama unlikely to win," and Hillary suggested John Mccain is more prepared for president comparing to Obama. They spoke from the buttom of their heart.
Jack, she does not want him to win and she and Bill are doing every clever thing they can think of, to create doubt, as they tried in the primaries. I'm just appauled that they can't get over that she lost, fair and square. The people voted, well except Florida and Michigan and they can blame their local leadership for that bonehead decision. What I don't get is, how did Hillary get cheated? All the votes were counted, all the Super Delagates made thier pledges. She lost period. And instead of doing what every other person who came in second did, putting their support behind the person who came in first place, she and her OCD supportors are doing the oppisite. Makes me wonder what is the real issue, the fact that she did not have enough to convince the majority that she had what it took or the fact that she lost to an African American.
Jack, She and Bill do NOT want him to win because her only shot left is in 2012. She is in a catch 22 however. If she is perceived to have divided the party so much that Obama loses to McCain, she will NOT win in 2012 as Obama's supporters will do to her then what her supporters are trying to do to Obama now. Her best chance is to talk to her supporters NOW and tell them to stop the hate they are spewing against Obama.
Jack,
Don't you know the answer, she wants him to win so bad, she begged her husband not to go to Africa. To stay in the states and help her campaign, fight like dogs for Barack Obama–NOT.
This is Hillary we're talking about, of course she doesn't want him to win, so she can look like the DNC Florence Nightingale, and save us from ourselves. She's a piece of work. It makes me wonder how her mother could raised such a monster.
She's a politician and contender. So she wants to win. It won't be this year so as a smart politician she will start setting the pieces for 2012. She will do now what is just enough to keep the party from her back and withhold all her big amunition for her own campaign in 2012. She is very smart.
She's willing to let the country stay in the gutter for 4 more years so that in 2012 she can sail into the White House and "rescue" the nation. Obama will probably benefit in the long run if the Clintons DON'T campaign for him too much. That obviously will not be a problem for Bill.
I think she really wants him to win, otherwise the only thing she can put on her resume is that SHE was beaten by a looser.
If Obama looses, she will be known as an "also ran" candidate that finished third overall in the 2008 Presidential election process.
No. She is divisive and was all out for her. She lost fair and sqaure and from what I can see is doing very little to help Obama although she promised during the primaries if she lost she would do everything in her powers to help him. Just another lie out of her lips. No wonder her supporters are so twisted and mean, they are just like her. What is funny though she will need Obama's supporters if she ever wants another job in office and at the rate she's going she can forget it. I know it just kills her supporters that they can't blame her campaign mismanagement of her debt on Obama.
On a professional level, she's definitely behind him. On a personal level, I'm sure she's devastated. She's always seemed like the type who's had this dream since she was a child, and I think a lot of us understand how much it hurts to feel a lifelong dream slip away, but sometimes those are the breaks, and it certainly doesn't make her entitled to the seat.
More Hillary Clinton drama? I think it's time to open up another bottle of Scotch.
As a Hillary Clinton fan, I think she does not want Obama to win unless she is the VP on the ticket. If he loses, she can run again in 4 years (thank goodness!). She also never conceded, so I think she may be waiting for an Obamaism (like Rev. Wright, but only bigger!) to foul him up days before the convention, thus she can gracefully step in as the nominee.
Remember, Obama had 18 million voters too, many of whom are young and will all still be alive in four years!! I think these voters would write you in Jack before voting for Clinton.
Jack-
Of course Hillary wants Senator Obama to lose – she is in it to win it.
It is obvious that she has started her 2012 campaign and it is shameful!
I totally agree with Gary of El Centro!
I think they wan't us to believe that Jack! But I don't think they woul'd be all that upset if Obama lost. The Clinton's know if he wins the whitehouse with someone besides Hillary as Vice President, she woul'd have a next to nothing chance ever of becoming President, and Bill will be just another Ex President the same as Jimmy Carter.
I may be wrong! But it's not like she is touring the TV circut the way Mitt Romney is for McCain! I think they are doing just the minimal amount, so in case Obama loses they can say they were behind him all the way! Then start up their 2012 campaign the day after the election.
Clinton wants the Democratic Party to take back the White House. I also believe she is clinging to some unecessary negative feelings from losing the nomination to Obama. In the end however, she wants him to win.
I don't think she does, no.
Of course, she doesn't want him to win! SHE wants to win. But, since that probably won't be happening, at least in 2008, she has to pick the least of the evils. And, of course, that would be Obama instead of McCain. Life is full of tough decisions, m'lady!!!
First of all Jack, you can hear the tone in your voice that you are against whatever Hillary does. Second, I think she will support Obama, but there is much speculation now and people are starting to back away from Obama and some that voted for him have now changed their minds. I don't understand the whole process, but can you imagine if she were to receive the nomination at the convention,(which I understand is the way it is supposed to be done) what a tremendous success that would be for her? If she is in the right, then she has every right.
If Senator Obama loses she has a chance in 2012. If he wins, game over because she can't run against a sitting Democratic President. That would push it out to 2016 and at 60 she's pushing it already.
Yes this pale face she spokes with fork tongue!.
Jack, Hillary will single-handedly wreck the DEM's and split the party forever. Senator Obama will then actually loose the White House race, then both African Americans and Latino voters will move in droves and become Independants voters forever.
Just think the GOP returing to power over "A Cat Fight".
Doc of Ohio
Put simply, "Billary" are classic baby-boomers. It's all about them. Get into debt, make others pay even the math/endgame was obvious long before. Don't win, it's someone else's fault. Say something egregious or just lie, then claim "I mis-spoke." So go through the motions, make it look like you support the nominee and plan for 2012. Only problems, as Paris Hilton probably would note, are that by 2012 tghe Clintons probably will be grandma and grandpa, look like John McCain, and have no idea at all where the succeeding generations are at.
Hillary wants Hillary to win and if there were a way to steal the convention away from Obama, she would do it. Even despite Obama's reception in Germany and over the world for that matter. With the new politics of bitter and unending political wars, Hillary might be crazed enough to circumvent the normal order of the convention platform and seek an unconventional tactic to resume her quarry of becoming the candidate of choice at the convention. She is not to be trusted, either as a vp candidate choice or conventioneer, for that matter!
I think she wants Obama to win, but only half heartedly. If he doesn't win, she and Bill may be blamed and it will be against her own best interest.
Her supporters ought to think twice about any demonstrations. This too would be again Hillary and any harm that my come to Obama's candidacy.
Hillary is respondible for her supports, her delicates and her husband. These guys better get your act together and think about the country first before your own interests.
Jack: I think we all know the answer to that question..... and we have two choices.....no and no. Nothing sharpens one's sight like envy and from Hillary perspective never confuse a single defeat with a final defeat.
It's obvious that Hillary and Bill Clinton don't want Barack to win, Bill Clinton cost Al Gore the election in 2000 and did nothing for John Kerry in 2004, now he and Hillary are trying to sabotage Barack's campaign, it just proves the Clinton's don't care about nothing but themselves and power, they also can't stand that Barack is more admired and loved than they ever will be.
Danny Gorgievski
Sydney, Australia
No, of course, she doesn't want him to win. Her mind doens't work that way. She still wants everyone to believe she would have been the best candidate. Her only catharsis in this whole event is to establish a public image of humility and consensus, while at the same time, propogating her followers with the armor to keep her candidacy going. She is a very clever and shrewd person, put her in the position of power in a presidential campaign and you, ultimately, provide the world with chaotic evil.,
Donna Sherman, Scott City, Missouri
Win at a game of chess maybe. As for November's election, Hillary and Bill are most likely already putting their team in place for 2012. She's my NY senator, but I don't expect much from Hillary over the next four years, just a lot of salivating over her prospects for taking out old President McCain when he runs for a second term.
I don't know what Hillary wants, but her behavior seems selfish and immature and unprofessional to me. I have scolded me children for less.
she needs to move over or disappear.
Hillary knew she lost the primary previous to her going in to Pennsylvania. The delegate math was simply against her, after losing 11 states in a raw. But she remained in the race because she was thinking of 2012. She stayed in the election and she was no longer running as Democrat but as a Republican. She has done a fine job in weakening Obama. What would have coasted McCain million of dollars to conduct define Obama Hillary has done it for him. Now what McCain has to do is just quote Hillary to define Obama.
New Haven, CT
Not too sure but hoping. That republican old man next doctor appointment is scheduled for November 4th so it doesn't matter.
I think she'd be perfectly happy letting America suffer another 4 years under Republican rule so she can save us in 2012.
Boise, ID
Well, Jack if Hillary really does want Barack to win she has a strange way of showing it. Both she and Bill haven't done anything in the way of campaigning to help Barack. So to put it mildly NO she doesn't want him to win.
I think she would rather he did not but is playing a little game so she can say tried. But it will not work. If Obama loses it will be due in large part to the mess the Clintons made out of the primary race. Even now Obama is having to deal with non-issues created by Hillary's slash and burn team. I can never see myself voting for Hillary Clinton for anything. Hopefully Obama will win in 08 and 12 and Hillary can contribute her many talents to business in the Senate. Hillary for president? Nope...not me buddy...never.
Of course not! She and Bubba will finesse this thing so that Obama loses but their fingerprints are nowhere to be found.
Jack, I would seriously wonder her intentions if Hillary requested her name be put into nomination at the Convention.
Unity is just that! If she were to request her name be put into nomination it would just STIR UP lots of hurt feelings by her supporters. Hillary SHOULD do all she can to UNITE THE DEMOCRATS for November!
I absolutely don't believe she wants Barack Obama to lose in November. If he loses........ AMERICA LOSES! It is OBAMA'S TURN this time.........Hillary's turn will come someday.
If she does something sneaky to ruin Obama's nomination she has to know that she and Bill are going to get blamed for it by the Dems. She also has to know that she is a magnet for Republican opposition. They may hate McCain, but they will vote for him to avoid Hillary.
If she had any honor, she would call off her supporters and get out of the way.
All of these shenanigans only show that when the democrats have a slam dunk they will find a way to screw it up.
No! Why would she? Even if Obama does win there is no way an Obama White House will listen to a word she has to say. Actually I would expect an Obama White House would drop the thin veneer of civility they are showing her now and do thier best to kick her to the curb of the party.
Of course Hillary does not want Obama to win – come on Jack. She and Bill are probably still plotting a way to steal the nomination. The Clintons care only about themselves and they will never truly support Obama. You can expect more passive aggressive efforts to undermine his campaign.
She does not want him to win. She wants this nomination so badly she will risk the party for her own ends. A lot of her supporters are also bitter about her losing the nomination because they all had a sense of entitlement for her to be the next president.
Jack, Hell no. After reading her statement it's obvious she will drag this supposed re-affirmation of "her" supporters "right" to be heard at the convention on and on and on. I can't recall this ever happening in 35 odd years of following politics. Keep it up Hillary, and damn America to 4 more years of Republican lies.
Hiram Rapids, Oh.
I hope so, because under George W. Bush this country is circling the drain. The economy is in a big recession and it would take real leadership that only Barack Obama can provide. Honestly Jack, would you trust the future of this country to John McCain who doesnt know economics and said that the economic problems in Ohio are psychological.
I think it's clear her self interest is winning-she can't let go and neither can her husband. Like Obama doesn't have a tough enough road just being the first African American-she's willing to risk the all important election for her ego. I'm ashamed of her and her husband and I'm ashamed of the media who keep giving her a break. She's a politician and losing is part of politics and if she cares about anything but herself she'll shut up about her supporters. Polls have shown all but about 8% are behing Obama so what's she talking about anyway? Oh yeah, herself!!!!
No, she doesn't want to see him win. She knows firsthand how fake Obama is.
for her own future it would be wise for her to do as much as she can to support him, she can't hold a grudge for ever if she does'nt her own political future will be doom. this is one of the major elections in history, a black man and a woman that ran for the higest office in this country in 2008. if she planning on running again it would be silly of her not do all she can to support him. her supporters are basically women, and there showing the rest of america such disregard, no respect, they don't know how to lose gracifully, acting very imature to be old enough to vote, what they are planning at the convention i believe hillary can stop them , so it looks like she with them that why she suspended her nomination, it won't work and the country is so far apart on this issue best of luck
Hillary only wants best for the American people and the democratic party. I wouldn't blame Bill if he stayed in the backround, he is still very
bitter, and understandably so. The Obama campaign really tried to do a number on him, and with Clinton do anyhting, but don't lie about him.
Remember he is still one of the most respected and best liked Presidents in history. If he dosen't want to back Obama, Bill will not have any egg on his face. He is still out there doing things for our country and other countries as well.
NO...the clinton's are still in shock that they lost to an unknown black man! she feels like the whitehouse is hers and will never except the fact that the majority voted for obama.her idiot followers think of this as a beauty contest and have no clue what they are doing to this party. they do not understand the differance in dems. vrs/ repubs. because they are like sheep following this woman that will forget they exsist once she is in office.
it is time to give it up, grow up and either they vote for McCain or stay at home. this 62 year old white woman from fayetteville ga. just does not care for their ignorance in this important piece of history that we are making. the world is watching us and i hope we don't give them more to laugh about than they have already had with the bush boys!
Yes she does, but she also has supporters that are loyal and she is trying to appease them. Bill Clinton is right is anyone really ready to be President??? You can only make your pitch to the people what you will do if elected, but thats about it till you get in office.
Of course Hillary wants Obama to win but only if she is his V.P. choice. That is probably the only way he can win.
Brownwood, Texas
Jack, Senator Clinton and her husband are pinning their hopes and aspirations on a lost for Senator Obama!! Here's the tragedy, do they really think that she'll be able to garner enough support in 2012 from Obama supporters??? She has just cemented another Republican win in 2012, if she and her husband keep this behavior up. WOW, DEMOCRATS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO WIN!
She is as crazy as her supporters who somehow think party insiders gave the election to Obama instead of her. The party that the Clintons helped build stabbed her in the back. This is their logic. How it make sense Jack, I have no idea. I guess this is what happens when you put down a deposit with the movers prematurely. I get that there is reason to be upset, but they would rather let the Republicans back in office for another four years than suck it up. I hope America can survive for another four years under Republican control, or it won't matter who is president in 2012.
Of course not. She still scheming behind the scenes to try and get the nomination at the convention. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a little sick of the Clintons and their destructive ways. They're going to make sure McCain wins come hell or high water. Then what? Iran?
btw, who pays for "universal health care" anyway? I'm already paying the healthcare for four people; not really sure that I want to take on someone else's. I guess that it will be some other "chump" taxpayer and not me that foots the bill......
Jack,
This is a no brainer. She had to come out TWICE to concede. That should tell you something. She wants Barack to go back to the Senate, and preferably Chicago, so she can be coronated. If she has to wait 4 more years until her subjects fall in line, so be it. That's what she wants.
She thinks it's those crazy African American subjects, if they had just fell in line like everyone else (and believed her lies), things would have been different. Whaaaaaa.
Signed-An AA, not falling in line.
NO!!! The Clinton's don't want Obama to win so she can run in 4 years but believe me America she may have had 18 millions voters but so did Obama and if he lose because of the stupid, selfish, under handed tactics the Clintons are know for. SHE WILL NEVER WIN IN 4YEARS AND THAT'S A PROMISE!!!!
The Clinton name will be ruin forever!!!
Not a chance. Hillary is playing the role of the dutiful supportive little Democrat, while she wears her 'Wonder Woman' costume underneath the pantsuit. They are just waiting for the convention and a major stumble by Obama. Enter the no longer silent and all knowing Bill to announce to everyone that Hillary only "suspended" her campaign; yank off the pantsuit; and proclaim with wild enthusiasm that Hillary the 'Wonder Woman' is the ready, and able candidate to win the election now. Losing is not in the Clinton playbook.
Hillary wants Obama to win? You are kidding me right? If Obama loses this election because of the blind crazy wickedness of Hillary and her supporters then the democrats can forget about wining anything for the next 12 years because the friction will be reciprocated by supporters of Obama. That is what Hillary really wants the downfall of the DNC.
Jack, who care whether she wants him to win or not because America wanted Obama to win this election. Its all about change and that is exactly what it. Get over it Hilary!
She doesnt give a damn about Obama.
This latest stunt is all about her again. With the recent attention to Sen Bayh being a potential VP,..she is once again pouting and trying to play hardball. Im soooo glad we didnt get her as the Dem Nominee. We have had a President for 8 years that has only cared about himself and his agenda,..we need Obama,..we need someone that cares for the poeple.
Jack- Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like she is being sincere when she says she wants him to win. I can’t believe she and her camp are playing with our futures like this. I thought so much more of her than this.
I think she will do everything she can to make sure Obama is successful against McCain. I hope the Democrats get over this petty nonsense, and get back to the important task ahead. We don't want four more years of a Republican in the White House. I just hope the damage done by this administration can be corrected. Will be interested in how President Obama handles the FDA preemption mess. If I'm harmed by a drug or medical device I want to be able to hold the company responsible. I can't believe Obama thinks it's all right to have our drugs imported from China. We already see how dangerous toys and dog food are. Sometimes I think our government is plain nuts.
As a former Hillary voter in the primaries I have this to say. If she were smart, she would have openly and behind closed doors do everything she could to elect Barack. She should have also instructed Bill to do the same so that Barack would choose her as his running mate. That would give her an option to run for the presidency in '16 and '20 after her two terms as vice-president. God knows that the Dems need 16 years in office to correct everything that the Bush administration did in 8 years of power.
Aaron
Ohio
Dear Jack: I doubt very much she really wants him to win. It all comes down to an addiction to power. Bill and Hill have been in withdrawal for eight years and if Obama wins they will be cut off from their supplier permanently.
Sandra/Edmonton
Only Hillary can answer that question Jack. You or me didn't campaign for months with everything you have to loose at the end just barely. So I do not know what mindset she has right now. But I can say one thing, not only her, but even I am skeptical whether Obama can win in November. Even with all these issue in the country, Obama is having a real problems with the polls. So forget about Hillary. He needs to focus on why he can not make some forward momentum; the kind of momentum he made during primaries. Unless that happens, Obama is history after next January.
Nuwan from Houston, TX
Do you really nee to ask that question, Jack? There is no way HRC wants Obama to win. She wants to keep her name out there, keep the party in an uproar and get her bills paid off. If HRC truly wanted unity in the party, she wouldn't be doing what she is doing and Bill would have himself out on the trail pulling the party together.
I really believe she is putting the party first – which baffles me. She should go Independent and reduce the DNC media machine to a halt. If she truly wanted to destroy the party – she has the power to do so; you haters should watch your tongue.
She was a shoe-in for the White House and now the dems are in trouble due to Obama's cult.
I've already dropped the democratic party due to her treatment by the press AND Obama's obsessive supporters. The democratic party is a pathetic excuse for a true respresentation of the people.
We refuse to allow the DNC to dictate who we have to vote for. As an ex-democrat, that choice is entirely up to me.
I have never stopped believing that Hillary would stop her campaign. There has always been a change that she would launch an attempt from her delegates to get her name in nomination at the convention. This could get very interesting! I probably would not have watched much of the Demo Convention. I just might, now.
Of course not. She and Bill, along with millions of the rest of us, know that Obama cannot win in November. We'll suffer through 4 years of John McCain, then Hillary will be poised to run again in 2012.
Hillary doesn't want Obama to win because 1. She can say "see, it should have been me". 2. I truly believe she, her husband, and supporters will try to steal the nomination at the convention, and 3. She is so full of herself and cannot believe most citizens do not like or trust her despite her claims of "gender bias".
Mary – Santee CA
She'd better. It seems to be pretty common knowledge that if the democrats don't win this year it will be because the Clinton's were unable to put party before self. That perception alone would knock her out of contention if she even had any thought of running in 2012 or 2016. No one in America likes a sore loser, someone should remind them of that.
Do pigs fly? Of course she wants Obama to win, just like she wanted him to get that 3:00 a.m phone call.Hillary is all about Hillary and the rest be damned.The Clintons have never been much for party unity so why start now.Fortunately, Obama can win without her and the country will be far better off with no Clintons near the White House.
I think they both have sense of entitilement ,like what ever the Clintons want the Clintons get. The Obama camp should run as far away from them as they can .If she were really concerned about the country , party unity , and her "18 million" she would put her own distorted wants aside and do no harm to Obama's campaign.
NO
What do you think, let me see she contineuosly tries to sabotage Obama, disguise in the vail of party unity, she reminds me of the line in lord of the rings.. ... "its for the greater good", really Jack if Obama had two more freind like the Clintons Mc Cain would not even have to Campaign.... but its for the greater good
No Jack,with her, its all about that fortune cookie with the dollar inside.
I have been a long time supporter of Hillary Clinton and am very disappointed , No I don't think she want him to win, she is putting her own ambition ahead and above the good of our country and the Democratic party, if Obama was the one to lose he would not be trying to undermine her he would support her, that just shows you what kind of person she is, and if he loses the election and Hillary think she will win in 2012 she is sadly mistaken because people wont forget what she has done and have cost us.
As a true Democrat, it would be foolish of Hillary to wish otherwise....
Judging from her body language during an event yesterday, she was supporting Barack Obama through clenched teeth.
I believe that Hillary Clinton still wants to be the nominee. Barring that, I don't believe she wants Senator Obama to lose to John McCain. Even if she did, in an attempt to put herself in position to win in 2012, she can't say it, and she has to do everything she can to assist Senator Obama. If she doesn't, she loses the support of a lot of Democrats who believe she stayed in the race for too long and made too many damaging attacks on the nominee. Even if Senator Obama loses, Senator Clinton is no sure thing in 2012. A lot of Democrats will refuse to vote for her and blame her, fairly or unfairly, for not winning the White House in 2008.
She is still hoping that some crazy *@!# will go down prior to the convention that will scare the dems from going forward with Obama, she is also trying to hijack the job of VP as a backup. Hopefully the convention will give her a reality check and she will finally recogize that she wasn't owed the nomination and that her seriously flawed campaign caused her to lose.
shes coming to las vegas tomorrow, i wasn't going to see her, iam tired of being hit up for money. but seeing you want to know i'll go and ask her. oh and i'll leave my billfold at home!
the clintons and everybody else in washingtons royal family does not want obama to win. obama represents a threat to the current power brokers in politics. yes, obama is a politician also, but his quick rise to power and lack of experience makes him the ideal candidate for everybody who wants change. the clintons, the bushs, the mccains, and all other corrupt politicians do not want obama to win because he will create change.
plus, its impossible not to notice how upset and jealous the clintons were due to obamas popularity. when the clintons got angry during the campaign, they made plenty of racist comments towards obama. that was enough to tell me that they have no intention of really supporting obama during this campaign.
Outwardly yes, inwardly no. You can bet the Clinton's have a game plan. They will bounce back in 2012.
Gary from Alaska
Probably Hillary is one of the best politicians and one of the worst person I have seen in my life.
What was I thinking when I voted for her. Shame on me.
Jack,
Listen to Bill Clinton's interview, watch the tightness of his face, and tell me the answer. They hate Obama–and they're nothing but phonies.
O/08
This is all about entitlement – the Clintons think they are entitled to the White House. Hillary wants Obama to lose – the Clintons are selfish and are using women to justify causing more headaches for Democrats. Too bad women who think they are so progressive and have evolved are allowing themselves to be manipulated in such an obvious, juvenile way. If Obama loses, I will NEVER vote for Hilary and I doubt I am alone.
Nope... She can live with 4 years of McCain so long as it means in 2012 she gets her shot. They've got the wrong two peoplw for party unity.
No, she doen't want him to win. This does not surprise me at all and if it does anyone, then I'll sell them a bridge to nowhere for $200 million. I told the wife in June, they will take this to Denver and try their best to steal the nomination and if they can't then she'll do everything to see that he loses, then they can say, "See, See, we told you". But don't worry, suffer for 4 more years and I'll be your President and fix everything and get us out of Iraq because we'll sitll be there.
No she doesen't want Obama to win
However she realizes if the youth "not yet of voting age" feel her and her supporters sabotaged Obama she's done.
She won't be able to get elected to street sweeper in "2012"
She's a mother first. She does. She's probably afraid he won't or can't.
But how she speaks to her supporters is no revelation about this topic. She is still raising money, remember. And she feels a sense of loyalty to them. She wants to please them. She feels she owes them.
I really don't care whether Hillary wants Obama to win or not. I want Obama to win. I hope she isn't cooking up a way to sabotage him at the convention.
Jack, of course she doesn't want him to win. If she did she would have quit when everyone else knew she couldn't win and thrown her sincere support behind him. You just know that like the spiteful runner- up in the beauty pageant, she is desperately hoping that he'll trip on the final pivot and we'll all rally round and give her what she truly deserved all along. Well, guess what- she got what she deserved a long time ago- her husband!
I think deep down she wants Barack to lose so she can run in 2012. If Obama loses and his supporters feel that she or bill haven't been supportive enough, they won't vote for her in 2012. The bottom line is that both campaigns (Clinton & Obama) have to support each other if they want a democratic president back in the white house in the next 4 to 8 years.
It isn't Hillary who is important here. The real question is whether BILL wants him to win, because we all know that he's the brains behind the operation to get himself back into the White House.
Bill and Hillary are two pouting children who want to take their ball and go home.
Jack, let us stop deceiving ourselves.Hilary is not happy becouse she lost to Barack. so, she will never come out strongly in an unequevocal terms to condem her so call supporters not to derail the chances of the Democratic Party and geniue americans who are suffering as a result of weak and incompetent leadership in washington. mark my words jack, she will never be president of the united state of america.
I think she is walking a fine line of not wanting Obama to win so she can run in 4 years but not looking like the one that sunk his ship by failing to support him. If she is perceived as not helping him enough she will not stand a chance of winning the nomination in the future. What all these Clinton supporters forget is that a slightly larger number of people voted for Obama, and if he can't win without her supporters, as polarizing a figure as she is, she doesn't stand a chance without his supporters.
Do I think Hillary really wants Obama to win?? I don't think she has a choice, he's the only democratic on the ticket. She is very loyal to her
party. I really don't think anyone in their right mind wants Obama to win. After reading all the blogs from the Obama supporters tearing
Hillary apart, why is Obama and his campaign making sucha big deal
out of Hillary & Bill campaigning for him. I'm sure they would love to fade into the backround and live in peace.
Jack, come on man.....everybody knows that Hillary does not want Obama to win. I'm nervous about her campaigning for Obama because I just don't trust her.
Sabrina
North Carolina
Billary has their own agenda, and it not to get Obama elected. Billary will huff and puff, make a lot of noise while crossing their fingers behind their backs. Hell, no. Not in our lifetime.
I think HRC wants HRC to benefit from everything. I don't think she gives a darn about Obama, the DNC, the country. But to look good, she will smile and say he needs to win. AFTER giving her 17 million voters a voice, and causing a big ruckus at the convention. I am expecting this to be a big mess.
Hillary 2012
the 'I told you so' campaign
In a word NO because she wants to run in 2012
I suspect the psychology of Hillary Clinton does not differ that much from all of ours. Remember the last time you almost won? remember how you felt about the winner? Remember how hard you tried to accept the result, how resentment lingered, how friends goaded you into believing your loss wasn't quite fair? I suspect that's how Hillary Clinton feels as well. Character, however, does not reveal itself in feeling, but in action. If she throws her unconditional support behind Obama, she will go down in history as a lady of uncommon grit _and_ grace. If she holds on to her resentment and keeps goading her so-called supporters (so-called, as they seem unable to retire her debt), she will go down as the woman who single-handedly destroyed the last that was good about US politics, and who had a large hand in our continuing march towards the destruction of the planet.
There's no greater wrath than a women nor a former president scorned. Both of the Clinton's would prefer that Obama loses the elections, so THEY have another shot in 4 years. The only way this might change is if she selected as vice-president.
Harrisonburg, VA
Deep down inside I don't think she wants Obama to win. I don't either. I realize she MUST pretend she's supporting Obama in order to prevent the demise of her own political career.
Your hatred toward Clinton was clear throughout the primary season and is still clear today. Maybe it's because she's a woman? I have no idea, but that's something you and your psychiatrist will have to work out.
We PUMAs feel that the Democratic primaries were very anti-Democratic and the whole thing was fixed. From the mess with FL and MI to the illegal actions of Obama representatives in caucuses to the party elders dictating to superdelegates.
The biggest issue for me is to fight for Democracy even if it means voting for the Republican to show the DNC, Obama, the party elders and people like you that we won't accept such unfair treatment of a candidate.
Eric
Blakeslee, PA
Yes Jack, she does. She cares about our country and you know it. I still cant believe that one woman would not support another. Women should have been behind Hillary 100% if for no other reason than she's a woman. Yes we have differences, but you have them with your best friend and still support her,why because we are women. We have dropped the ball this time and Im afraid we will regret it, in fact I know we will. Its damn dissipointing.
Hillary is actively campaigning for Obama and does want him to win. On the other hand, as one of her 18 million supporters, I do NOT want him to win. Hillary in 2112!!!
She hasn't made herself visible until now. I knew this was coming up, it came as no surprise to me . I was wondering when the news would come out. She has always been only for herself. It was so peaceful without her.
She doesn’t want Barack Obama to lose; she just prefers to be the winner.
It is so obvious that hubby Bill wants her to keep “running” (on empty?).
If she does request to be named as a nominee at the convention, McCain is going to be gushing more than just oil.
Mrs. Clinton’s obduracy may swing voters to McCain’s geriatric side, and he may very well prevail in November.
I guess Hillary also thinks that her chances to be chosen VP are zip.
El Paso, Texas
The funniest line I heard this week, was "the Clintons don't know what to do". LOL. Of course I don't believe it, but it really was a funny line.
The Clintons will regroup, come back in 2012 and give us a headache until Hillary wins. I hope that never happens, but I only get to vote against her once.
Obama 08
Of Course she wants him to win. Come on people! Give her some credit. This isnt a soap opera we are talking about here. The core reason people join a political party is because they believe in what the party stands for. Do you really think she wants McCain to continue the failed policies of Bush for the next 4 years? It's a good story angle that does draw attention but dont believe EVERYTHING the media tells you.
Sen. Clinton has a much better chance of staying relevent in politics if Sen. Obama wins, and I'm sure she realizes that.
Hilllary wants Obama to win about as much as she wants smoke one of Bills cigars.
Jack,
You are the most awful "journalist" I have ever seen. I am not even a Hillary supporter, but your biased nature of telling the news is truly upsetting. It has been so clear that you dislike Hilary, ever since she ran for president.
Oh, and get a new picture – you are much fatter and older now.
Of course not. But then, if Barack continues to stumble, she may make a case in Denver that she's the one to beat McCain. Either way, she wins. Replace a faltering Barack now or run against McCain in 2012.
Truth is Jack we can't read her mind. All we can go on is what we see. I see a woman who created an army of monsters in her attempt to clinch the nomination, and her polarizing politics not only alienated Democrats, but has vitalized the GOP. They are using HER words against Obama as we speak. Perhaps she regrets some of the things her campaign did; however, the PUMA's and the other bitter supporters are like runaway trains, and I don't think even Hillary Clinton can press the brakes on them.
Who cares what this woman want. I am sick and tired hearing about this wrinkiled old woman. One more mention of hillary I will throw up.
Yes of course. What a rediculous question.
No, deep down she wants a " I told you so" moment. If she and her supporters keep all of this disgraceful stupidness going, they will be the ones to blame if Obama loses, and this country goes further into the hole of despair.
How sad if she truly is only after the 2012 election. I really do not remember if other candidates that lost in the past really got out and campaigned. I would think since this was such a close primary and if she really wanted him to win she would be out there more and tell her supporters.....if you really support me than vote for Barack...but I really do not think we will hear her say that. Trying to give her the benefit of doubt but I am not sure I can much longer.
The best thing she could do is to make all the right noises and keep her distance. Obama is self destructing. Cafferty and the other left wing media cheerleaders have overplayed their hand. Americans are getting sick of both Obama and the Cafferty's of the world.
After Obama, the far left kooks and the media lap dogs get finished destroying what was left of the once great democratic party Hillary can pick up the pieces. She can then return the democrats to the center, bring those of us back who have fled to the McCain camp and focus on 2012.
If I must put on the Carnac hat, then I suppose she’s feeling quite mixed about it. Part of her feels deep down that she would make the better candidate, but I can’t imagine that there’s any part of her that wants McCain to win. She’s a human being, after all, and it’s gotta hurt to get so close to being the first female president and then to lose the nomination by the skin of her teeth to a less experienced candidate who has the chance of being the first African American President. How do you deal with that? Seriously?
Hillary's back in the news? This is like Ground Hog's Day. I hope she sees her shadow soon.
Heck no she don't want him to win,the Clintons are bitter and would just as soon see Obama lose so she can run again in 2012,and God willing ,she will lose.John McCain will and should be President of The United states,he is a war veteran and strong at bridging partisan politics.
Jack, if the info in your blog is accurate, it appears that her actions indicate she may be planning to thwart Obama's chances of getting elected. Simply by being evasive she has made it difficult for Democrats to feel any sort of unity in backing Obama at a time when polls show that both he and McCain are running about equal in popularity. She and her husband at this point are definitely not helping the chances of Obama to win.
I would like to think that Clinton would like to win, but I hope that she has come to the realization that she is going to be able to make that. If she has come to that realization and fully accepts it, then she will fully support Obama. We'll be able to tell when she gets to the convention and her name isn't on the nomination ballot.
Jack
I'm normally a very benevolent person, but at this time I have to say that if her supporters mess it up for Obama, I'll vote against her in 2012 or any other time. They don't have to vote for McCain (what they threaten most often) – there are candidates other than Obama and McCain.
They keep threatening us and saying they are going to teach DNC a lesson. Are they even adult?
If Hillary wants a political career in the future she had better keep her word and work her heart out for the Democratic Nominee, Barack Obama. If she's being sneaky behind his back I say off with her head It's that kind of underhanded stuff the entire world is sick of.
Thanks
No, quite simply she doesn't. This has been shown by her and her husband.
One other thing, to all the people who keep saying the DNC machine was behind Obama, please recheck your facts. At the start of the race, Clinton was so far ahead on DNC delegates. How do you explain this if Obama was "the chosen" of the DNC?
Her statement is about as unclear and noncommital as they come. Even reading through the lines, I couldn't tell what she meant. Whatever it was, it was NOT clear, committed, enthusiastic support for Obama.
Frankly, Jack, I wouldn't put it past her to still try to make a run for the nomination at the convention, regardless of her lukewarm endorsement of Obama.
No, she would rather go against McCain in 2012.
That must sadden Jack, who is Obama's backside man.
We all know Hillary, Bill & Chelsie don't want Obama to win. They are not to be trusted. Now that Obama has defeeted her in the race. Obama don't you trust them clinton's. That Hillary is the one who wears the pants in that family and bill will do just about anything to take you out.
Jack,
It is not up to Hillary if she wants Obama to win, it is up to the American people how they cast their vote in November. The WILL OF THE PEOPLE is BIGGER than Hillary, DNC and Obama combined. This is about THE PEOPLE.
If she wants to salvage any kind of a legacy, she better hope he does. If she tries to steal the nomination or tear apart the party at the convention, she will be forever blamed for the Republicans winning in November. Also, if she ever wants to run on her own again, she would never get the Obama supporters behind her and would not be successsful . I don't really blame her for the problems right now. Her advisors, especially Davis and Icke, said some pretty harsh, unnecessary things that turned a lot of people off. The PUMAS are turning people off in droves and making women look bad. Her husband is not helping matters either. They all seem to be trying to blackmail Obama into picking her as VP. It 's working to the reverse. Had they been sensible, honourable and helpful, she probably would get the nod. If she and her supporters don't disrupt the convention, she will probably get some good spot such as Secretariat of State, Health czar, or some other important cabinet spot. I hope they don't blow that for her too.
Jack, I think Hillary Clinton has not given up one bit on her quest to be the most important person in the world. That means to me that she will pretty much do anything to direct the spotlight onto her and her activities and her beliefs. I’m personally really tired of all this nonsense. We have got a really good shot at gaining back the government from the nastiest and most greedy special interests that took over the government since the days of the Teapot Dome scandal in the 1920’s. Senator Obama is our best chance yet to break through a political, economic, ecological, and even spiritual barrier to the further success of our experiment with democracy. If Senator Clinton cannot bring herself to help carry the burden of reestablishing a legitimate federal government then she ought to have the grace to get out of the way of those who will.
Something is being calculated...
UNITE DEMS! NO MORE GOP!
She needs to put her disappointment behind her and be an adult.
She lost and she needs to be firmly behind Obama. This is the main
problem with the Democratic Party. There are more registered Democrats in this country than Republicans but they can never stop fighting long enough to get a Democratic President elected. I vote Democratic and have always done so. I wish every Democrat was that way and there would never be another Republican in office. The Republicans are laughing their butts off because of Hillary.
I dont think so. Her body language speaks volumes. Hillary and Bill just cant bring themselves to forgive the young upstart!!
Things are not what they seem. The Clinton's are planning to obstruct Obama's bid for the White House. In public we see the fake smiles and out of public eye the Clinton's and their supporters are seeking a coup. If she is as powerful as everyone thinks then she could put all of this crap from her supporters to an end and tell them to get behind Obama so that Democrats can win back the WH. But nooo...she can't do that. I believe that this Novemeber will be a sad day in this country. 4 more years of the Republicans can and will be devastating to say the least. And you know who will be helping mcCain win the WH? All you need is one guess....thats right folks the Clintons...Billary 🙁
That depends on the what the meaning of "win" "is".
If she is his running mate. Since that won't happen then the answer is a big, fat NO!
Hillary might as well support Obama as she will be too old for the Presidency in 4 years so there isn't anything in it for her if he looses.
The other down side for her if Obama loses is she will wear the bulk of the blame from both the Democrats and the public who will be the ones left to suffer the consequences of another Bush 4 year term.
Yes, she wants him to win Runner-Up.
No. Hill and Bill would love to see Barack fall flat on his face. I wish some brave soul would snuff out the Billary beast and put us all out of our misery. Hey Quentin Tarantino, if you're watching...we're all chomping at the bit for a sequel to Kill Bill 1 & 2, so here's my suggestion: Call the new film Kill Bill 3 and Hillary too, an EPIC thriller of bloodlust, mayhem and carnage, where the fiercely loyal Obamite, Beatrix Kiddo, the black mamba, played by Uma Thurman, whacks out tens of thousands of those pesky PUMA people with her Hattori Hanzō sword in order to get to and take revenge on the Billary beast. When she finally does confont the two-headed monster that is Billary, Beatrix permanently disables the dastardly duo with the "Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique." Violent yes, but tastefully done.
It’s August and Hillary has just confirmed to us she’s been involved in the whisper campaign for the DEM nomination and the YouTube clip also confirms the Clintons have been salting the wounds which only confirms why the party is not uniting. Like someone said before, “a Clinton will pat you on the shoulder while they piss down your leg”. They publicly proclaim to support Obama and yet they continue to encourage their supporters to rebel. My $0.02 worth is if Obama wants to steer the DEM party in a new direction then he needs to cut lose the Clintons and build a new DEM party “from the group up “ like he likes putting it. It’s clear:
Can Hillary Help Unite the Party? NO.
Have the Clintons Gotten Over It? NO.
If the Clintons can’t look beyond themselves and spoil the chances of the DEMs getting the presidency in 2008 then they are no different than the current Administration that they so claim to loath.
Let's see, if Obama wins, she would have to hope he is a total failure as President for her to have another shot at the presidency. If Obama loses, she would have to hope that the American people have a very short memory when it comes to her role in his defeat. Given these scenarios, she has to be pulling for him to lose.
Billary are perfect for each other. They both are selfish and narcissistic. They both hate to lose. They are tenacious like pit bulls and they're self-centered to think that there shouldn't be ANY other Democrats in the White House but them.
Bill is a great orator, and to think he couldn’t answer a reporter’s simple question is incredulous. He didn’t want to answer because he doesn’t believe Barack should be president. That’s fine, he should have just said it–but he couldn’t because he knew if he did it would seal his wife’s political fate. I don’t like the Clintons.
The problem is from her surrogates. They are just trying to put pressure on Obama. She admitted and what now? Think about it Jack!!
Yes Jack, she wants him to win (reluctantly), while hoping he will slip and fall so she can take his place at the convention. If however, that doesn't happen, you can be sure she'll want a place in the spotlight in return for her support.
Jack, it is people like you who are the problem, always stirring things up. Are you enjoying yourself?
Personally, I won't vote for Obama unless he puts Hillary on the ticket. If he doesn't, I will write her name in. I wonder how many write in votes she will get?
Why don't you do an article about that?
Does Hillary Clinton even know what the word catharsis means? Ask me again in four years...
I feel that she would rather have McCain win. She stayed in the race for too long after it was very clear that she would not be the ticket. She damaged the Dems chances of being a sure shoe in for the election as a result of her unwillingness to step down earlier. Her supporters will either not vote at all or are still undecided. Now McCain has a good chance of winning. If he fails in his first term she will be a likely candidate in 2012. I feel thats been her strategy since she knew she would not run in this election. That's why she did not solidify her chance for a joint ticket with Obama.
Deirdre,
Sarasota, FL
Jack, you'd ask any lame question that would get folks to say nasty things about Hillary, wouldn't you?
She will make on last try to unsit Obama at the convention by putting her name on the ballot. If that fails,she will say it was to make sure her supporter are reconized, then she will pretend to support Obama all the time hoping McCain win so she can run in 2012.
Jack, I don't know... hell I could not tell her expressions throught the primaries unless she was extremely pissed of at Obama.... but I think she wants him lose so that she can run again in 2012...... she knows if he wins, she has no chance then......
if he wins she cant run till 2016. she'll be as old as mccain by then.
No, Hillary and Bill doesn't want Obama to win..As a voter, i am tired of the mind games that the clintons are displaying to the public.Bill gave a horrible interview to ABC this week and didn't answer the questions properly at all..Hillary need to tell her so-called 18 million voters to pay her debt off. Right now, i am really sick of the Clintons.
I don't want Obama to win!
3 times no. Did she ever want him to win .... no. Does she want him to win...no. Will she ever really do anything to help him win....no.
DUH! When, at the end of the primaries, Hillary announced that she was 'suspending' her campaign, I knew she had some sneaky plan in mind. Most candidates who have been beaten END their campaigns, not suspend them. Doesn't her latest little maneuver explain why Bill hasn't been showing any support of Obama? 'Cathartic' my ass.
And to those saying that if Obama loses, it will be her fault and she won't win in 2012.
Are you kidding me? Did it ever occur to you that Obama could lose because he simply isn't qualified? Perhaps Hillary was 'right' when she said he couldn't win major states just as Obama was 'right' on his Iraq war (his only real accomplishment in the Senate).
Is it Obama's fault the Iraq war was so tragic because he was 'right'? Another example of the ignorance of the Democratic party.
It doesn't seem like it but I'm sure she and former President Clinton are too smart to know that it will hurt her political career. She must know that if he doesn't neither will she and that includes 2012.
Until Hillary goes out and say's "All of you, stop the petitions, stop the rallies, WE ARE ALL BEHIND OBAMA. Until she say's that, then deep down, she still thinking of ways to be president.
Clinton wants to be pres Oboma will be our best hope for new policies. Former pres Clinton was also a corporate loving send our jobs out of the country good fellow. He wont help Obama maybe like Lieberman hurt him as much as posible. Thats why the poor misguided American public will elect McCain God help us all!
Of course she's disappointed by the loss and we already know she does'nt feel he's experienced enough to be president...but come on, Jack, can't you find another hobby,besides Hillary-bashing? You got what you wanted-she's out and your choice is in-can't YOU just move on or will you blame Obama's poor poll results and inevitable loss on Hillary (not on his lack of experience, his flipflopping, his affiliation with Reverend Wright and his inability to connect with the Hillary voters?). Sorry Jack but to quote the title of your own book "it;s getting ugly" in the cafferty file ! John, Framingham MA
It's all a ploy. Watch out Obama. The Clinton's are so incredibly self-absorbed that they are risking the possibility of the Democrats losing the election because of their shenanigans.
If she was on the up and up, she would have shut down this PUMA rebel group some time ago and she did not. They all have had their say already and as in any other national election, we now should be getting on with the job of electing a Democrat to office. It is unfortunate for the delegates that are not being seated that their states chose the path they did. But that's the past. We need to move on.
How dare Hillary ruin the convention and the limelight for Barack. I think it's just incredibly rude, arrogant and thoughtless.
But then, I knew that about Hillary after the first debate.
I am a Black female lawyer who, for the first time, maxed out in my contribution and traveled to work and support Hillary in Iowa and Texas. My candidate got half of the votes and Obama can only win with superdelegates, whose votes are not cast until the convention. I wish people like you would get over your animosity toward Hillary and the people who support her. If it had been the other way around, you would have been demanding that she treat the first viable Black candidate with respect and even place him on the ticket. Many of us feel that we are being told one thing but treated in another way by Obama and his campaign. I will vote for Obama, but my support should not be taken for granted.
No Hillary dosen't want Barack to win and she's doing all she can to make sure of that. She is a true back staber. Say one thing when everybody is looking putting on a sweet face and as soon a the camera's are off the true Hillary comes out. Do her supporters not realize that Obama had just as many supporters as she did, this is crazy and childish. With a stunt like this she'll loose all chances of ever being in the White House especially if she upsets his chances of winning. And by the way I believe he can and will with or without her help. Florie
She doesn't care whether Obama wins or loses. Her only concern is that she look good. It is a fine line she walks. She can't obviously withhold her support from Obama without looking bad as a sore loser. She must support him if only in publicf and for appearance sake, If Obama wins she wants to look good for supporting him. If Obama loses she wants to look good for supporting him. In either case, for Hilary it is "all about me." No question that she will want to look good in 2012
Of course, isn't it obvious by her and Bill's silence?
Jack, Remember her non-consession speech on the night Obama went over the top. The hand writing was on the wall then that she wasn't going to go away quietly.Of course it's all neatly wrapped up in "giving my supporters some closure". It's going to be ugly and the party will be split in Nov. Look at all the people here on this post who are still in denial , still crying about how she was cheated. You are a no winner against that kind of mind set.
Who cares Jack, but we all know you do!!
Clintons plan A didn't work but they always have plan b,c and d and they should. Obama is like Alice in wonderland...
I don't know why people continuously discount Obama for a future run if he doesn't become President this time around. Everyone assumes Hillary will run in 2012 if McCain wins but most don't even figure Obama into this equation. I have no doubt in my mind that if McCain wins, Obama will be steadfastly working to show Americans what they could have had with him leading, as we watch McCain flush the country down the toilet and line the pockets of big oil. Obama would definitely run again, just as McCain has done, and he stands just as good a chance as Hillary Clinton of winning in 2012. History can repeat itself.
I think it's obvious that these two do not like each other, which makes sense to me I don't like them either.
E Simmons August 7th, 2008 3:11 pm ET
I am a Black female lawyer who, for the first time, maxed out in my contribution and traveled to work and support Hillary in Iowa and Texas. My candidate got half of the votes and Obama can only win with superdelegates, whose votes are not cast until the convention. I wish people like you would get over your animosity toward Hillary and the people who support her. If it had been the other way around, you would have been demanding that she treat the first viable Black candidate with respect and even place him on the ticket. Many of us feel that we are being told one thing but treated in another way by Obama and his campaign. I will vote for Obama, but my support should not be taken for granted.
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Cheers to you! Well said. You are right, if the role was reversed they would be demanding Hillary observe and respect his followers. She would have had him as her VP already. Just another example of Obama's arrogance and ill attitude to those that didn't support him. Sounds like Obama maybe a little bitter...
NO!, she is not 100% for Obama and is looking forward to upstage him at the convention. She is power hungry, that's why she haven't release her delagates. She wants to be the President and thinks Obama does not deserve the chance.
The PUMA group and the march at the convention is a high for her. The attempted fake of happiness for the party is fraud. Sen Clinton wants to be the "IT" and will do whatever to obtain power.
If no upstage she will bully her way into some other focet of his campaigne. This will giving her bragging rights...see I told you we will be heard...
No, she doesn't want him to win. She wants McCain to win so she can run again in 2012. But she knows better than to say that in public, and get herself alienated from the party.
She's a sore loser. And she continues to encourage her supporters to be the same. Mitt Romney can put aside his differences with John McCain and support him. Mike Huckabee too. But not Hillary. She's Hillary first, not country first. It's so pathetic.
Most definitely not. She has been lukewarm to say the least in her support of Obama. Sounded quite fake. She didn't let go of her delegates (those she could hold on to), she kept her name on the ballot. She's probably counting on those 18 million to show up, stage a popular rebellion and then she would accept, oh so much against her will, of course. "Yell, scream and then back Obama"??? Patronising words at best, aren't they? (to her supporters). And those supporters show they don't think she's serious when she tells them to support Obama. Then they wouldn't be going against her will, would they?
Darrington, WA:
Jack,
Of course she wants him to win, as she stated clearly. She wants a democrat in the white house, and there is only one nominee. If she reverses course on this issue and withdraws her support for Obama, can you imagine the bru-ha-ha that would ensue? She would undermine or even destroy the effects of the positive impact she has had. She might be tagged as a racist, though she is not one, and never shake it. The republicans could use it against her forever; what a "flip-flop" it would be!
The true question here Jack is, does Bill want Barack to win? He reminds me of the bully on the block, who couldn't really steal your cookie as a kid, because his mother was watching...... you get the point!
I seriously doubt Hillary Clinton’s sincerity about anything unless she stands to gain something out of it. If Obama loses she will scream, ” I told you so”. If Obama wins she will say, ” He couldn’t have done it without the Clinton’s”. Personally, the most refreshing thing is to not have to see her or Bill’s face on the news everyday.
Absolutely not! She wants to run in 2012. The only problem is that Obama has laid out the perfect plan on how to beat the Clintons in the political area. Thus, there will be a number of Obama type of candidates waiting to be beat (including Obama himself).
She could not beat him when he lacked experience. What makes her think can beat him 4 years from now when he will have much more experience?
Hi Jack! I think when she gets behind closed doors, she does not want him to win, however she does not want to lose face with the DNC.
Of course she does not want Obama to win, she wants to be seen as making an effort in the eyes of Obama supporters yet still harboring the hope of being in the white house. I hope Obama supporters hold her to the same Ransom when she gets to run again and wins narrowly.
Ernest ,MD
I think she will do what the party wants. You know, the party of Pelosi and Reid who refuse to start impeachment of a President who has shredded the contstitution, lied and manipulated the country into the worse shape it has been in decades.
I will vote republican for president and democrat for senate and house. I won't let Howard Dean pick the president and ignore the will of the people.
No. She wants to be the president.
Obama wants Hillary and Bill to campaign for him so he can win and be President.
Obama should pick Hillary as Vice President , afterall they split the same vote. Obama is looking for a Vice President who is prepared to be President. if something happen to him, unless is afraid of Hillary popolarity ,the question is who is better qualified and prepared than Hillary.
Mr. Cafferty,
There is a distinct difference between wanting Obama to win and thinking he is capable of winning. The former is a matter of preference, the latter is a matter of confidence.
The Clintons, of course, prefer Obama defeats McCain in November. Deep down inside, they probably still harbor resentment from the primaries, but even despite that resentment, they wholeheartedly believe Obama will be better for this country than McCain.
They may, however, still doubt his chances of being successful in that attempt.
there's a side of hillary that says "im tired of the republicans, i dont care who the democratic nominee is, I want us (democrats) to win this fall so that we can move in a new direction" and then there's the "mccain win, 2012 here I come!" Will the real Hillary please stand up?
The true question here Jack is, does Bill want Barack to win? He reminds me of the bully on the block, who couldn’t really steal your cookie as a kid, because his mother was watching…… you get the point!
Andi
Detroit, Michigan
Does it matter what Hillary wants now? The media and Obama supporters have done all they can to push Hillary aside and silence her. I think she will let the current election scenario play out as it will play out, with John McCain winning in November. What she wants to do after that is anyone's guess.
No, she doesn't want Obama to win. She will do the bare minimum in terms of campaigning for him, and she will do this only to appease the constituency. Behind the scenes, the Clinton machine will be working to undermine Obama's candidacy. Or in Bill Clinton's case, he won't hesitate to make those actions public.
No I don't believe she wants him to win .
Silver Spring , MD
Her lips say yes, I want Obama to win but her facial expression reveals her heart saying "NO". Both her ego and selfish attitude won't let her move on! Apparently Bill and Hillary will never recover from this.
Hillary honestly wants Obama to win. I just read these posts and I will never understand the irrational hate for all things Clinton. Without hardworking Democrats like Bill and HIllary and others,there would have been no opportunity for an Obama. They take particular pride in seeing not only a woman, but an African-American because of what Democrats have stood for in the last 40 years.Democrats have wasted their negative emotions on Hillary when they should have been spent on Busjh.
Of course not. You could tell this by how she skipped town and dissapeared off the face of the planet when she lost. Look at the other side, Romney Huckabee, Giuliani, and others swallowed there pride and came out swinging at Obama when McCain got the nod. But what about Hillary. Nothing. Everytime I turn on CNN I here Mitt Romney bashing Obama. If Hillary truely supported Obama she would have turned those ugly smear campaign tactics she was using on Obama right around on McCain. I feel like she enjoys watching Obama get bashed by the Republicans becuase she can no longer take part in it. She's a negative person just like Bill.
She's trying to save her country from the preaching suit. Obama and the DNC had better pay attention to the women they are sweeping into the silent corner. These voters could be lost forever as executive women from the McCain camp scout to give them a voice that can't be found in the Democratic party these days. Sadly, Nancy Pelosi is driving that bus.
When Hillary Clinton steps into the voting booth this November she will transform into a PUMA.
As the last seated Democratic President and First Lady both Clintons should be out there being good Democrats and working to get Obama elected, but they are Clintons and won’t be doing any more then what is asked and then only half hearted. Hillary and her cult following are nowhere near over the primaries. As well as Hillary did in Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania and other states, she should have those sewn up for Obama and if she doesn’t the loss falls on her lack of enthusiasm. If her followers were convinced that Obama is the one we wouldn’t be hearing this garbage. The reason they aren’t convinced is because she isn’t convincing.
Poor Clintons,
They want to prove by all means that they are indispensable. Let her and her husband continue to play the huddles. Whatever the situation, there will be a winner in november. If it is MacCain, there will be two losers, Senator Obama and Hilary Clinton [More shame on her the on Obama. She would have played Macain @] If The winner is Obama, Clinton will be the first loser, before Maccain, for despite the odds, justice would have come to prevail. Call it destiny, I don't mind.
nganenu
The Clinton's absolutely do not want Senator Obama to win, it is truly a shame that they are still this angry and shall I say very narcesistic. I voted for Bill Clinton twice he was a very good president, but it is now time to move on. I will be voting for Senator Obama in November.
Kelly from North Carolina
Since he took the popular vote from her, I doubt it. In her mind, it still should have been her running for President. I would still take Hillary over Obama any day. I think she has a better chance of winning.
I can't speak for Hillary but I can speak for millions who are not happy with Obama! We are fighting for our legal rights as voters to be heard at the convention. Neither candidate obtained enough Delegate Votes so Hillary's name should be up for nomination at the Convention. This is not something new, it has happened in past Conventions. The only difference is that Hillary received 18 million votes and that is historical. We have a right to have her name on nomination more than any other time in Democratic Convention's history.
Florida
If Hillary is not nominated at the convention I think the 18 million voters will really be split. Obama can't beat MCcain without those voters. I think there will be some surprises at the convention. the Clintons are too quiet, something is up. HILLARY 2012
Thats like asking if my best friend stole my wife, would i want to see them get married.
HELL NO !!!
That we should have to ask this question at this point is your answer. Since when is it the job of the winner to make good with the loser? I have admired Senator Clinton for years, and looked forward to her run. But the narcisism both Clintons have shown throughout this process is very disheartening.
Jack I think your taking this a little bit out of context its not HIllary who has been behind what you're talking about its her supporters that are trying so hard to keep her going by putting her name into the nomination because there are some sour feelings given so many people voted for her. Therefore it would be difficult for so many people at the convention to accept Obama as the nominee when they wanted Clinton. Hillary is simply trying to let her supporters get it out of their system in order to better unify the party to win in November. I know you are anxious to attack Hillary any chance you get Jack but having worked for her for several years now I can tell you that she wants what is best for the Democratic Party and getting Democrats elected to our political system.
Jack,
Hillary wants Obama to win in 2008, not only because her legacy is on the line but so is Bill's. She knows that if Obama loses this fall then she would get the brunt of the blame.
She's a true Dem...at least I think.
How about you ask if the republicans support McCain Jack!
To answery our question Jack, No she does not want Obama to win nor McCain, Hilary wants to win, she has not given up. She is nuts.
I don't think she wants him to win but she doesn't want mccain too eitherbut what choice does she have.
She and bill will support O'bama in November i think, but they'll still be bitter about the primary.
I think its a little too soon to expect Hillary to be 100% behind Obama, she appears to be a very intelligent, intense, and determined woman but I do believe she is 100% against the current Republican Party agenda which McCain will back to the wall – once the Democratic Convention is over Hillary will be 200% behind stopping the Republican Party from being in power for another term.
Hillary absolutely does NOT want Obama to win. It would spoil her plans for 2012
In reality, no! She is not a team player. I still worry about her and Bill turning this convention on its' head. She wants to bring a vote to the convention floor using Florida and Michigan's full votes to topple the nomination of Barack Obama. If this scenario plays out, the Democratic party will have a rift so large, we will never win another National Election.
Respectfully,
Gail: Woodstock, Illinois
I believe Hillary when she says she will do anything for Barack Obama. If I was in the same position, in order to save face, I would smile to the cameras in public, and beat down walls in private. I am sure she feels side-stepped, being replaced by an Obamination! Would you be happy Jack if a hollow pole won the nomination against you?
Probably not, but you know what? I don't want Obama to win either. Or McCain for that matter. So where does that leave me, a moderate Democrat? Obama's simply not qualified to be Commander-in-Chief and hasn't proven himself at anything, but McCain is still a bit too far right for my taste.
I'm sure Hillary feels the same as a lot of us – stuck between a rock and hard place – with two candidates who will make poor presidents.
As far as the convention goes, Hillary's supporters – myself included – saw her battle for the nomination as equally momentous (or even more so) than Obama's. People just want that recognized and it hasn't been. If and when people feel she's gotten her due, they'll come around. Otherwise, many will probably sit this one out in November.
Anyone who thinks either Hillary or Bill wants Obama to win has got anbother think coming. We American/Democrats are no fool to believe that the Clintons wish Obama well. Hillary is doing whatever she is doing in the media just for her political future.
Obama cannot afford to trust the Clintons. Whatever happens, win or loose, Obama will go down in history as a person of change and the David that defeated the Clintonia Goliath.
I still believe the American people will elect Obama in November and the Clintons will have thier second defeat.
Kayode from Marshalls Creek, PA
I am so sick of both Clintons. Can't someone in New York or the Democratic Party tell them to shut up already. It's OVER. And please, people...when you talk about Hillary running the next time – be aware that in 2012, she will need to defend her Senate seat and I cannot recall an instance when a person ran for the Senate and the Presidency at the same time. Don't you think the Clintons know that this is their only chance to get back in the White House and that is why they are desperate?
Jack One can only speculate What She Is really thinks about Obama.
There Is One That That should be as obvious as Paris Hilton In the White House Bill Is Not A happy Camper ,
You Would think That after every thing that the Republicans Put him Through ,and the way Dem's stood Behind Him .He would Do more to Help out His party . And stop Sulking .
If Hillary lets her name be submitted to the convention in Denver, and the DNC lets the votes be counted, then Hillary will be the democratic nominee. She knows it. You know. And Obama knows it.
I think Hillary's concern that Obama could loose is genuine. Unfortunately, I think she and her husband are so into the tactics of the horse race they would consider the pleasure of saying "I told ya so" greater than the pain of another four years of Republican rulers. Bill Clinton's campaign to past NAFTA at any cost, was similar in its thoughtlessness.
I have no idea. Maybe you should ask Miss Cleo.
Now if the question were "Will Hillary support Obama?" then I would have to say yes. She cannot afford to alienate Democrats if she wants to continue her career. She needs to take her moment at the convention to make some huge unifying overtures. I also think the DNC needs to allow the recognition of her delegates to recognize the historic significance of her campaign.
How will her supporters get behind Obama when she's trying to put her own name on the nomination?
"Historically, you know, primaries can last a long time, you know, Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June...."
Obama is running an exciting campaign for President – under the "We can Change" banner.
I'm having my doubts that Hillary is still about Hillary and changing Hillary, less alone Washington, DC, is not what she is seeking at this time.
Prayfully, Hillary and Bill both need to blow their nose, wipe their eyes, pray and go to bed.
And in the morning, be about God plan for their lives.
They (the Clintons) want him to lose so badly they can hardly contain their glee. Keeping her name for the nomination is just one of her scheme. The 18 million march of old bitter biddies marching to the Convention like harpies during the French Revolution is another ...
Hillary has a passive agressive way of not running for the nomination, and it is not helpful. I don't think she will consider herself out of the race until John McCain is sitting in the oval office. Leave it to the democrats to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Hillary would rather Obama wins than McCain. Is she happy about it, no way. Does she feel cheated and betrayed, probably. She will help Obama win.
She's made it very clear that she's backing Obama and that she wants him to win. Why is it that people are questioning her and doubting her every time she opens her mouth? Of course she would have rather won the nomination herself but she didn't and I am confident that she's over it by now.
Now as for Obama supporters being able to forgive her for daring to run against him, that's a whole different story.
Biden, Dodd and others all have more experience than Hillary and Obama. Obama has more experience as a public elected official than Hillary. A little known fact is that OBama was a public elected official for a full 5 years before Hillary won her first election.
So we arent electing a resume or a list of policy proposals. We are electing a leader and Obama is that leader.
I agree, Steve. She’s made it very clear that she’s backing Obama and that she wants him to win, I think Obama needs to worry more about his lack of support among voters. They are seeing him for what he is, an empty suit.
Well Jack, Part of me thinks that Hillary wants Obama to win because he's the Democratic nominee. However, Hillary is an opportunist and if he loses she can run again in 4 years and would probably end up in a better position that she's in now
Jack,
When have the Clintons ever lost gracefully? The answer is never!! The fact is they don't like losing and she is hoping McCain wins in a landslide so she can say I told you so. But the more she pushes this issue and let her crazy wack job support the more she looks like a women scorn. She is handling this poorly.
It's a toss-up.
If policy takes precedent in Hillary's mind, then she wants Obama to win. Like she said early on in the primaries, there was little difference between her, Obama, and the rest of the Democratic nominees; but there was a large difference between them and the Republicans...whoever the Democratic nominee is, thus, should receive her full and unequivocal support.
However, if politics takes precedent in Hillary's mind, then she doesn't want Obama to win. If Obama wins, she stands a much smaller chance of winning the party nomination in 2012; the last time an incumbent President did not run for reelection was 1968, if I recall correctly. She'd then have to wait until 2016 to run, and she's not exactly a young lady. Furthermore, if Obama loses this election, her case is much stronger in 2012 that she is more electable and a better candidate against the Republican Hate Machine.
Flip a coin...you decide.
Who really knows? Judging from appearances it looks like she doesn't want him to win, though. Otherwise, wouldn't she call off her fanatical supporters and decisively denounce any notions of having her name put in nomination, as well as explicitly discourage all this stuff about their "voices being heard" and recognition of her delegates, etc.? Under of guise of allowing them to let off steam, all it really does it feed the flames of divisiveness. So it's disingenuous.
from Kansas
Sure she does Jack!!!!! wink wink
All I know is that SO FAR, Hillary's supported Obama with enthusiasm and grace.
The same cannot be said for her husband.
Bill should enthusiastically support the nominee of our party–like Paul Tsongas supported HIM, despite Bill trashing Tsongas' reputation in the primaries..
Bill's ridiculous bitterness and wounded ego will only make him more likely to be blamed if (God forbid) McCain wins.
I was very positive about Obama being elected President. Now, I get the feeling that somehow the Democrats (read Clintons and their supporters) are going to screw this up. I am so disillusioned with the American political process that, if Obama loses the election, I'm through with the two-party system and likely through with politics. I'm beginning to believe that the Government is not of the people and for the people and my vote just doesn't matter.
No Jack, and i do not care. I am almost as sick of her and bill as i am of bush jr.. I will be glad when they are all history.
It doesnt matter obama is well on his way to become president!
The Clintons are still upset that Hillary didn't win. They claim to be Democrats that are "for the people" but yet they refuse to put their full support behind the candidate that won the nomination. She's still trying to control her supporters by not endorsing Obama . I also blame the media for continuing to draw attention to this issue. Let's move on, talk about the issues, and focus on the November election.
If she wanted him to win why grand stand and act passive when it comes to her name being on the ballot. If she were for him she would say "NO" absolutely not, he is the nominee and I am fully supporting Obama.This is not about her supporters this is still about Hilary, and Hilary getting what she wants. She is still trying to force her way on the ticket, but now she is sneaking through the back door riding on the backs of her supporters.
You stole my thoughts, Gary! Give em back!
Harwich, MA
I believe Hillary is way to full of herself to think that Obama can win.
I have no doubt that she firmly believes she is the better candidate and hence would be a better President. There is no way she will ever fully commit to supporting Obama or anyone else.
Of course she doesn't want him to win. She wants to be president, and she'll be too old in 2016. 2012 is her last hope.
She'll do whatever it takes to make sure he loses even if it means destroying her party. The problem is that she'll never win the presidency, because of her obvious personality defects. She doesn't even have the skills to run a campaign much less the Presidency.
If she'd won the nomination and Obama encouraged rallies for his cause, the Clinton's would be livid and the democratic party would quickly shut it down. She (and Bill) need to either act with class or go stand next to Osama Bin Laden (disappear).
Hillary should really understand if she causes Obama to lose this election with her shenanigans, we the people will not forget in 2012.
Trust
she doesnt want him to win because he is the wrong choice and she knows if he becomes president our lives will be 10 times worse under him than they are now under bush
Jack, i voted for her in my state's primary and would have liked to see her go on. that being said i'm 100% behind Obama. If we elect another republican president because Hillary is playing games I will never consider voting for her for any position for the rest of her life.
I am convinced that Hillary does not want Obama to win. If she did, she would never encourage her so called supporters to scream before backing Obama. You would think Hillary was the only person ever to lose a nomination.
No true democrat would take the risk of further dividing the party by marching at the convention.