June 2nd, 2008
05:31 PM ET

How does Obama’s leaving church affect his chances?


FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Barack Obama apparently decided enough was enough.

Obama announced over the weekend he had resigned his 20-year membership at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.

Obama says he and his wife had discussed leaving the church since April, when his former pastor, the Reverend Jeremiah Wright made more controversial remarks at the National Press Club.

Obama's association with the church had caused an explosion on cable news weeks earlier when video surfaced of Wright's fiery sermons, blaming the U.S. for the 9-11 attacks and saying the federal government helped spread AIDS. Obama initially said he disagreed with Wright but couldn't disown him, but later did just that by denouncing his comments as "divisive and destructive."

More questions about Obama's ties to Trinity arose last week with a guest sermon delivered by the Reverend Michael Pfleger, who mocked Hillary Clinton as weeping over "a black man stealing my show” and said he wanted to expose "white entitlement and supremacy wherever it raises its head." Father Pfleger was harshly criticized by Chicago's archbishop and has since apologized.

Obama says he's not denouncing the church, but points out that because he's running for president, every time something is said in the church, it will be connected to him, even if it's something he disagrees with. The likely Democratic nominee says he has no idea how it will impact his campaign, but that it was a personal decision and the right thing to do for his family.

Here’s my question to you: How will Barack Obama's resignation from his church affect his chances in the general election?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Steve from Idaho writes:
In a real world, what somebody's preacher said should have no real relevance to a candidate, that is, unless that candidate speaks from the same tongue. Unfortunately, in a campaign where you're tagged by association, this was a good decision by Obama. McCain separated himself from his wacky preachers and now Obama is doing the same.

Bruce from St. Paul, Minnesota writes:
It will take the church off the table as an issue. The GOP will still try to use the Rev. Wright clips, but it will no longer have as much impact. Maybe we will be able to focus on things like health care, Iraq, the economy, tax giveaways, etc, etc, etc. Come to think of it, John McCain has some questionable characters in his past as well. They are named Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Rumsfeld. (I'll save Keating for another time)

S. writes:
Well Jack, it does say something about his judgment. Took him twenty years to realize it was not a great church to be attending. Oprah did it in two.

Randy from Elmira, New York writes:
He's done everything he can do to distance himself from the church, short of burning it down. Probably some Republicans will suggest he should have done that.

Wendy from Illinois writes:
It doesn't matter one way or the other. He should have left years ago, but chose not to. He is just as radical and extreme as his pastors are. There's no other reason why he would stay in that church for 20 years unless he believes the same stupid crap they do. Even if he only joined the church for political reasons, as some are saying, a sane person would have seen the writing on the wall after a few years and left.

Ray from Florida writes:
Jack, I don't think it will make much difference. The Republicans will try and use his former church against him in the general election, but my hope is they will overplay it! If he's smart, he'll join John McCain's church.

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  1. Bill from Redding, CA

    Wouldn't it be nice if this question didn't have to be asked. Now that we have (or at least I believe that we have) confirmed that he's not Muslim, or whatever else he was said to be, let's concentrate on the issues at hand.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:12 pm |
  2. Tom

    It should not be held against him. I thought the first amendment set that straight a long time ago.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:13 pm |
  3. Colleen, Weddington, North Carolina

    What part of separation of church & state do we not get? It will have 0 effect, zilch, nada, the people don't care. Why don't we focus on how he is going to fix HEALTHCARE???

    June 2, 2008 at 2:13 pm |
  4. martin berman

    His resignation is meaningless. He attended the church for twenty years and never stood up to express what is now his opinion about what the Reverend Wright was saying or the naming of Farrakhan as man of the year. His wife based on what she has written and said, was a willing sponge at the church, absorbing everything Reverend Wright said and it shows.
    Neither he, nor McCain, nor Clinton are the best we have and none can have my vote. I could have considered, Powell, Biden or Hagel. I have no one to vote for or against as there is a paucity of good candidates.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:14 pm |
  5. Josh

    No, Because like a expert on your program said a few weeks ago. That Americans have short attention spans and the whole church thing will be forgotten because Iraq, the economy and healthcare would overshadow the church issue. Since people are dying for real change and people are flocking to Obama since he saying the answers the people want to hear. Sylvania Ohio.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  6. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    It shouldn't matter but it may help him. It is amazing how we sit in judgement of others based on what other people do or say.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:16 pm |
  7. Mark - Asheville, NC

    It does not affect anything. The damage has long been done by his associations with these screaming pastors and priests – the attack ad creators have far more ammo now from all this than they could ever need to ruin him in November, and there is nothing he can do, nothing he can say now to stop what is coming.

    This will make what happened to Kerry and Dukakis look like a day at the beach in comparison. The DNC knows this, yet they push to nominate him. We are in LalaLand.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  8. Mighty Blogger

    Is there a story here?
    I've moved on to the issues that need addressing.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  9. Phil Murphy from San Francisco

    Jack – There will always be those in the 527s who will bring up the issues. You wont be getting it from the Hillary Group any more – once Obama reaches the magic number. So right there the noise will be cut by half.

    Its called desensitizing, and with so much time between now and November, it will be, "Is that all you got!".

    Hopefully there are not any more gaps in his armor.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:18 pm |
  10. Michelle, Baltimore

    I agree with Colleen, there is a separation of state and church in this country. I know that the repubs will bring this up in the fall but I hope that this does not become a major issue. We need to focus on the economy, healthcare and the war.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:18 pm |
  11. Lori in Battle Creek, MI

    They can't fault him now, but the voters who held his former pastor and church against him will probably not vote for him anyway.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:19 pm |
  12. John from Boston

    I wish Obama would join the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster just to end all this nonsense about religion. And since McCain got a religious problem of his own I don't think the GOP should be wise to even go there! Am still waiting for the "I reject and denounce Jerry Falwell!" from McCain by the way!

    June 2, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  13. Peter TX

    i strongly wish he stayed but the press wont let the church be. its a pity, this is the kind of democracy we are selling to the rest of the world. good luck Iraq, you are learning the back handed democracy we have to offer.



    June 2, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  14. John, Alabama

    No. Millions of people transfer from one church to another for far less reason than this.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  15. Randy, Elmira NY

    He's done everything he can do to distance himself from the church, short of burning it down. Probably some Republicans will suggest he should have done that. Hopefully this matter is done and we can move on to the issues that are important to 99% of us. Jobs, fuel costs, health care, and list goes on and on.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  16. Jake Hillsboro, OR

    Depends on whether you laughed when you saw the Pfleger stunt or shook your pfinger at it. It was a perfect SNL bit, typically over the top, but it was done in a church...Obama's church. People pforget that God really does have a sense of humor and that according to the Bible, we are created in His image. Holier than thou people pforget that and stand on their own hypocrisy shaking their pfingers at others. I laugherd my butt off over it, because it seemed quite plausible.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  17. Vicki Almeter

    I just don't know how Obama leaving his church means too much of anything...I believe the damage is already done...he stayed there for 20 years...doesn't that say enough! My fourteen year old daughter had an interesting take on it. She asked me, "Mom, do you think he will find another church that hates white people? And do you think he will have to give-up that church if he becomes President"?

    June 2, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  18. Gene E

    It amazes me that intelligent people are even caught up on this issue. Minor problem at best and little ammo for the GOP to use. Though, I have never attended his former church, I doubt they are the ranting racists that your counterpart news networks makes them out to be. It's sad the man had to make this decission at all although I do think he had the best interest of the members of his former church in mind. If this is all they have on the Sen. from Ill., they are in serious trouble.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  19. JT Manhattan

    Resigning from the church was the right thing to do, and it will help some. But it won't end the battle. You can be certain the Swift Boat Veterens-like groups will continue to pound the issue into the ground for as long as they can. They prey on people who are not well informed and will saturate the airwaves come October.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  20. Kavontae Smalls

    Obama leaving the Trinity Church will not erase the comments made by the respective pastors, but will illustrate a firm message to the people that he is passionate about his campaign and religion.

    – Pensacola, FL

    June 2, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
  21. Ray,Florida


    I don't think it will make much difference.
    The republican's will try and use his former church against him in the general,But my hope is they will overplay it!

    If he's smart he'll join John McCain's church!

    June 2, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  22. marilyn

    too little too late

    June 2, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  23. James in Cape Coral, FL

    I think Obama is making the right move. His departure from Trinity United should serve as a model to all of us that religion has no place in politics.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  24. Connie

    Jack, What happened to separation of church and state. Do we not have the right to worship freely. Bush sent our troops to the middle east to fight and die for their freedom, what about ours? I believe the media should have stayed out of his church. I could care less what his pastor or any other pastor says. We do not hold child molesting priest again the catholic's and demand they leave the church, people need to get over it including the media. Obama can go to any church he likes I will still vote for him. I am going to any church I like, thank you.

    Connie from Indiana

    June 2, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  25. Anna, SW Missouri

    Barack Obama made a statement in California about people clinging to religion and guns a while back, and the Clinton camp and the Republicans (its hard to tell the difference) jumped all over it. This whole church and pastor episode shows just how true those remarks were. In a time when 80 % of this country thinks we are headed in the wrong direction, and McCain wants us to continue in that same direction, Obama should win by a landslide. If he doesn't, it will be because people vote against their own well being due to clinging to religion and guns.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  26. Steve Idaho

    In a real world, what somebody's preacher said should have no real relevance to a candidate, that is, unless that candidate speaks from the same tongue. Unfortunately in a campaign where you're tagged by association, this was a good decision by Obama.
    McCain separated himself from his wacky preachers and now Obama is doing the same.
    I hope in doing this, it takes this subject out of both campaigns so we can focus on the real issues facing this country.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  27. Willow from Sheldon,Iowa

    How soon we forget all of the previous campaigns when people did not bring up religion at all (except for Kennedy). The separation of Church and state was complete. Now, at least, we are talking about their spiritual ideals. I don't think it will have any impact either way on his campaign in the GE. the issues, healthcare, the war, the economy, energy will be big issues and will cover up anything else. I think its a good idea that he removed himself from that Church, because it shows his intentions are good. But it won't make much difference. There are too many issues to work on now.

    Anybody that doesn't vote for him because of his Church problems is probably using religion as a reason not to vote for him, other than the obvious.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  28. Nuwan Sam

    I don't believe it will make much of a difference. The issue that republican will raise is not the fact that he is a member in the church now but that he has been a member for 20 years. He may have been subjected to similar kind of speeches over that long period. And the question is how much those speeches really got into his mind and shaped his judgement. A 20 years of association can change a persons mindset a lot. So it does not matter that he resign now, but what matters is that how much was he influenced by that church and similar speeches. That will be the point exploited by republicans.

    Nuwan from Houston, TX

    June 2, 2008 at 2:44 pm |
  29. Peter Pan Fairview, Texas

    That depends on which church he joins now and who gets up on the stump and preaches at that church and what they say. Obama didn't disown his faith. He parted from a perception conceived by the media who by the way never showed a whole sermon preached but instead picked out select sound bites complete with video and then painted the media canvas with those colors. None of the media attended any of those sermons as they were given. We have the right in this country to attend what ever church we want. It is unfortunate that Obama had to leave his church because the media didn't honor those rights.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:44 pm |
  30. Sally in PA

    I don't think the effect will be any more than it has been already. I believe those against him are using this "church" issue as their reason for not voting for him instead of admitting that they will just not vote for an African American person, man or woman. I wish the woman in the race had been African American. I wonder how many of these "outraged white women" would have been screaming "Denver" at the DNC meeting then. Some Americans (or Democrats) really are not what they say they are. Sad state of affairs.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:45 pm |
  31. D. from MT

    His resignation won't mean anything more than it appears to mean, a political election stunt to get everyone off the subject. But, we all know that won't happen as more and more of his friend's caustic remarks come out to the woodwork and the Republicans work the media!

    June 2, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  32. mark, Temple TX

    It will be a plus for some and a minus for others. Most importatltly, it will be a huge plus for Obama. He won't have to spend his life talking about some of the oddball preachers and he can get on with the business at hand. McCain.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  33. leevaughn brown

    Hey Jack
    The only people it will be an issue with are those who would never vote for Obama. It's a shame that anyone that Obama knows disqualifies him in their eyes. Yet McCain knows and has dealt with people who are worst. There are too many hypocrites in this country. These people claim to go to churches that are P.C. What church teaches you to judge a person because of what someone else has said? A controversial Preacher is not news! If you don't like Obama and don't want to vote for him, then don't vote for him, but don't use his preacher and the Black Church as an excuse for not voting for him. If you do then, Yes you are a RACIST!
    Cinti, Ohio

    June 2, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  34. Tyson

    I would like to think that it shouldnt matter at all, But as you can see by many comments here people are so outraged that he didnt leave sooner. It amazes me that Americans are so scared of a pastor that says word they are not used to hearing. I live here in South Carolina and maybe one Sunday Jack you could come down so I can take you to a few churched here in the very rural country and let you hear with your own ears some of the crazy preachers here. Every preacher should speak their minds in their own sancutary. What ever happened to the days where preachers spoke about social issues that effect there followers. Didnt Jesus speak about social issues. Didnt Jesus ruffle a few feathers in his day. For goodness sake he was crucified on the cross for speaking about social issues. Is this what faith has turned into today. Whos right and whos wrong. Everyone needs to wake up and realize we are paying $5 for gas. Isnt that a bigger issue.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:50 pm |
  35. T.J. Marshall (Raleigh, NC)

    It will help, if only for the reason that it hopefully has been publicized enough that idiots will stop thinking he's a muslim, and reject his candidacy out of hand on that basis alone.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:50 pm |
  36. Janet In San Diego

    I think it will show that he no longer wants an affiliation with Trinity. Even though he isn't resposible for what the pastors guests or otherwise have to say, some MSM people kept linking him with them. Also the members of the church were receiving death threats as a result of his membership. The MSM is to blame for this becasue you hyped it up until it was a firestorm. Why didn't you do the same with the comments of pastor Hagee and Parsley ? Are the members of their church being threatened? I doubt it.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:51 pm |
  37. Baly Hoo

    Those primaries in PR were an insult to the people and population in the island. If their votes didn't count why do get the delegates added to the numbers. First, do you Know puertorricans are US citizens by virtue of place of birth, yet they can't vote for president, they go and they get drafted for any military service branch and they have served in every military campaign of the US in foreign soils.

    Baly Hoo; FT. Lauderdale, FL

    June 2, 2008 at 2:51 pm |
  38. C. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    Barack Obama's resignation from his church will not affect him as much in the general election as John McCain's continued Bush policy and no economic plan.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:51 pm |
  39. Judy in Dodge City

    As personally painful as it was for the Senator and his wife to sever their ties to their church, I agree that it was best for both them and the church body. The far-out, radical comments notwithstanding, I think that most people have a very limited working knowledge of the black church in general; otherwise, there would have been more allowance for some of what's taken place. But since you can't re-educate the public in a brief period of time, Senator Obama did what he had to do. I believe it will help more than hurt him. People want to see action, outward evidence of what they perceive to be "doing the right thing." Hopefully he'll be allowed to put most of this particular controversy behind him and move on to the things that matter most to the country.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:52 pm |
  40. Jaki

    Funny how we profess to be Christians yet we set in judgment over what someone else says or does in church. I gone to church for over 50 plus years and I daresay that everything that is said or done has been pleasing to me. I was there when the civil rights movements started and heard the anger in my parents, grandparents and great grandparents voices as they lamented over inequality in this country. Freedom isn't pretty nor is it without pain. Perhaps we should take something from Jesus himself "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone".

    June 2, 2008 at 2:52 pm |
  41. terry atherton

    none jack, those who use rev wright in the general election are people who would never vote for obama under any circumstances,fortunately there are enough level headed americans who know that this is not an issue. in my mind 90% of religious leaders are nut jobs anyway, ask mccain.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:52 pm |
  42. Kim, Dodge City, Kansas

    It should help keep him focused on what lies ahead. This has been and always was a media driven issue. On a side note: it's about time these churches that are political pulpits start paying federal and state income taxes if they are going to mix church and state so blatantly.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:53 pm |
  43. Snapper Cridge • New Castle, IN

    Jack my friend...A better question to ask would have been did any of this mattered in the first place and honestly who did it matter to?

    June 2, 2008 at 2:54 pm |
  44. Mary in AL

    These two out-of-order church jocks affected only the voters that didn't really get the gist of Obama's message of hope, change and all Americans working together. For those who were scared of the church, I guess it will help him. As for those of us who had the good sense to look at the man himself, I think it is a non-issue. I guess this isn't a secular nation anymore and who ever blabs in a candidate's church can be attributed to him. By the way, has it registered that Obama's mother was white? The voters seem to view him as if he was an African American in totality.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:55 pm |
  45. Raj, Toronto

    Don't you understand, he did this so you would stop talking about it. The media continues to talk about his former church. The truth is that he does not really attend his church, he you have not noticed he has been campaigning. Second he will be living in the White House for the next 8 years, so he has to find a new church anyways. A persons relationship is not through a pastor, or a church community, but its by how you live your life on a daily basis in accordance to his values.

    We all have a high opinion of Obama, we know he a family man, polite and kind, so thats what you should judge him on.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:55 pm |
  46. Pat,Lexington, Ky.

    It sure can't hurt. Obama needs to continue emphasizing the effect all of this has had on the other members of Trinity (including shut-ins, for heaven sake!) and the media needs to STOP talking about why Obama stayed in the church "for 20 years". It doesn't matter now! Let's move on!!

    (Jack – I can't wait for you to ask a question about Vanity Fair's story on Bill Clinton and the "women on the road"!)

    June 2, 2008 at 2:56 pm |
  47. Greg Crist

    Jack, I think most people have come to realize that the attention Barack Obama has brought to this Church has given "these people" (Wright & Pfleger) a stage and they have said some ridiculous things simply to gain notoriety for themselves. It should not, and probably won't have any affect at all on his campaign unless the right wingers can't come up with something better to pound him on.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:56 pm |
  48. Kathy/Marietta, GA

    Most people see many of the comments made in the church as racist.
    To say that Obama would have listened to racist comments and agreed with them appears odd. That means that he would have agreed with comments directed at his mother, grandparents, other relatives and half of himself.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:56 pm |
  49. Gayle Jacksonville, Illinois

    Come on Jack, stop with the softball questions, give us a hardball. I don't think it will affect him as much as some people would like, it depends how much the media put it out there for some people to bite.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:56 pm |
  50. Erik

    His resignation is meaningless. He is and will continue to be associated with Trinity Church and Rev. Wright.

    He will be "swiftboated" and instead of old veterans damning him (as they did to Kerry), it will be Reverend Wright damning America. Be prepared to see that clip over and over again.... The new phrase will be "Reverend Wrighted"

    Pasadena, CA

    June 2, 2008 at 2:57 pm |
  51. Ray Kinserlow

    It is sad, but necessary. The likes of the swift boaters and the criminal Karl Rove would hammer Obama incessantly in television ads on the subject. What is really sad is the Republicans will refuse to let the election be about the substantive issues and instead will try to let things like race, religion, etc be their issues of choice. I sincerely hope Americans have had enough of the politics of fear mongering and personal attacks.

    Ray Kinserlow
    Lubbock, Texas

    June 2, 2008 at 2:57 pm |
  52. Dealt

    It won't. McCain has glass roofs on the issue of religion and his own unruly priests.

    Also it won't damage Obama's standing with the followers of Trinity Church, since they'll understand and appreciate the wisdom in taking out the limelight from the church.

    Hopefully too, the various churches will instruct their priests to leave Ceasar's business to Cesar and concentrate more on spiritual issues and helping the suffering.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:58 pm |
  53. T. Churchill, an American

    Jack, Americans will vote on petty things rather than real issues. I
    seriously doubt that Rev. Wright or Pfleger will be standing at the gas
    pump when we're filling up our tanks at $10.00 a gallon.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  54. Bill in Michigan

    Oh please! Can't we get religion out of politics? Or, do we have to start asking the question, "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of a religious organization other than my own?"

    June 2, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  55. Paula, Seattle, WA

    Think of it this way... for once we have a candidate that is NOT mixing church and state!!

    June 2, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  56. Darla (Edmonton, Canada)

    Barak Obama is clearly a man of faith. Leaving the congregation that he has worshipped with for 20 years doesn't change that. The measure of a leader is one who has a strong moral and faith compass in his life.

    I was born into a conservative Christian denomination and have attended church all my life. There have been many things that I've heard over the years from the pulpit that I do not and will not embrace. The wise person realizes that their faith is deeply personal and is the only thing in the long run that truly matters. The church congregation and the denomination are just "man-made" places that we go for a sense of community.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  57. Terry from North Carolina

    Enough with the church issues whether its Obama or McCain, it should have no bearing on this or any other campaign. Whether its running for president or councilmen in Fargo ND. religion should not be part of a campaign.

    June 2, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  58. E.H.

    Like most Democrats, he is cutting and running...

    June 2, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  59. J.C. from Raleigh, NC

    This will, to paraphrase Joe Biden's earlier gaffe, make Obama clean and attractive. Hillary went through the process of egalitarianism and found a nation of mountain people to support her; McCain went through the process of conservatism and found himself the nominee; Obama will go through the process of homogenization and find himself in the White House. This is what America wants- no cream at the top-no real color, everything beige.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:01 pm |
  60. Mike

    Unfortunately, the issue should be dead. You cannot hold Obama accountable for the actions of his supporters. Is Hilary held up as an adulterer because one of key supporters committed adultery?

    Jerimiah Wright is a loose canon and his actions proved it to be. However, Obama had to distance himself from the church because they refused to let the Politics go. They were the ones that asked the Priest to give a sermon on race. They were the ones that allowed those comments. It is their responsibility not Obama's to handle the situation.

    Spokane , wa

    June 2, 2008 at 3:01 pm |
  61. lori in california

    I don't believe it will affect his campaign at all. Most of the people voting for him STILL believe in the separation of church and state. Any of the comments that were made by his ex-pastor didn't have any relevance on him as a candidate previously and this shouldn't either.

    Those of us voting for Obama are looking for REAL change and that includes having to pander to religion as part of the electoral process.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:02 pm |
  62. chryssa

    I don't think it will affect his chances in the general election. If anything, it'll make the Republicans look that much more desperate if they try to scrape something together and use it against him.

    Boise, ID

    June 2, 2008 at 3:02 pm |
  63. Peter, Kentucky

    Jack, had America voted for Gore or Kerry, we would be leading the world. Unfortunately, we made a bad choice. That's why America now is neither leading nor following the rest of the world. We are stuck in the 20th century mentality or war, war, war. No wonder McCain keeps saying "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran" That is the only thing he can comfortably talk about because as he admitted, he knows nothing about the economy.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:02 pm |
  64. Carmen

    This should not be an issue. The first amendment should take care of this. Look at Bush he is such a religious person and look where we are now. Yet we are trying to get ride of religious persons in out places and we are still talking about this? It is bad enough that Hillary thinks she has the right to change the rules and go on. When are we going to learn our lessons and give good examples to the kids?

    June 2, 2008 at 3:02 pm |
  65. Sultan Stanley Njonwo, Houston TX

    Jack this question will only be raised by those who do not care about the needs of the American people. The economy is bad, food prices are up, gas price is going up everyday, home forclosure is get higher and higher, our troops are dying in Iraq while those who claim to be commander in chief is living his life and will continue to live his life even after the war while families of the lost ones will continue to live in pains. Now that he has left the church, i think the American people should turn the page and face the issues.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  66. Pat

    I am a Republican. I have decided to vote for Obama in the fall because he has taken the right step. Anytime anybody says anything in the church, Obama is blamed for it and that is crazy. I believe that leaving the church has boosted his chances because He can no longer be tied to what he knew nothing about.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  67. rbrannan

    Odd how before Wright basically stated at the Press Club that Obama is a politician who says and does things just to get elected, Obama was on The View stating the one thing that made him, Obama, sad was how WRIGHT had been UNFAIRLY defined by a few video snippets. Now, Obama 'resigns' his 20 year membership with Trinity church BECAUSE Obama reasons/ is sad again that it's UNFAIR to the CHURCH to always have a critical spotlight on the church/pastor/congregation just because he's a member. The timing of Obama's actions/non actions and the reasoning that Obama now–after 20 years as a member– gives is so lame, has no credence, that all not blinded by their own Obamamania knows its only done for the sake of political posturing. R b in PA

    June 2, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  68. Jed in Redding, CA

    I can’t say that I’ve ever agreed with Rev. Wright or the guy who mocked Hillary, but I don’t think you should judge parishoners by their priest. It’s akin to saying that the Catholics of a particular congregation condone child abuse because their priest was convicted of molesting young boys. At least now he can’t fairly be targeted by anything anyone ever said at his church and perhaps more importantly the current parishoners of his (former) church can be left alone to worship in the way they see fit.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  69. Brian - Trinidad

    It is a phony gesture that won't fool enough people to get himself elected. Obama keeps saying that McCain's association with Bush makes him the same as Bush,despite Mccain's statements to the contrary.Well,using the same logic,Obama's 20yr association with that church makes him the same as the church,and that's a lot worse for the American people than McCain.Reason number 129 not to vote Obama!

    June 2, 2008 at 3:04 pm |
  70. Aaron B.; Champaign, IL

    In the end, rather positively. We should keep in mind that Barack Obama is not disavowing his faith, but merely those select conduits of bigotry within his faith, that need to be razed.

    Religious opponents are going to have to adjust their tactics, but the attacks on Obama's personal religion will remain heated through the general election.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  71. Raymond Duke/Gatesville,Tx.

    It will help him none at all. People know this is only a political move to shore up the damage by the nuts that come out of the wood work. He spent twenty years listening to that hate and racist rehortic. No matter how his campagin and you try to spin it people see through this. The october surprise will be the final nails in the coffin. I bet their is video of him and his wife from the pulpit spewing this racist rant and hatred of america. Get ready to squal and ball your eyes out jack. After you see this video that fox runs will you still try to make up excuses.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  72. Judy D, Rochester, NY

    This is far from over – the church can and does have a powerful impact / influence on the way we conduct our lives. Parishoners can be extremely influenced by pastors as well as other parishoners. Being a member can be very important in a person's life and behavior. So to even think this is ended is like believing in the tooth fairy. McCain's campaign will use this against him, just as the Clinton campaign did.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  73. don in naples, florida

    People have blown the rev. wright's comments too far out of proportion. As far as the other preacher that was speaking, i think it was apparent he was just saying what he thought his audience wanted to hear. Im sure the other preacher who spoke of "white man's entitlement" will look back on his comments with regret and probably embarrassment. As far as how will obama's association with his church affect his chances, well we are in a post modern society. The church's role keeps diminishing with each new generation. I think obama is fine as long as he stays out of church, and focuses more on the issues of economy, debt, foreign policy. Hypocrisy is a christian who declares war on the world under the cloak of 'freedom'. The christianity I studied teaches passivity and forgiveness.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  74. yolanda

    It didn't matter to me, whether he stayed or left. He has my vote. Senator Obama has not demonstrated, nor were there any reports that he has behaved in a hateful manner.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:07 pm |
  75. Canadian pundit

    It matters to those who don't have a religion that they follow and look for the dark side of poeple.
    Religion is a personal thing between the individual and there God. I believe in seperation of church and state and so should the rest of you.
    Ray canada

    June 2, 2008 at 3:09 pm |
  76. Forest N.C

    You guys in the media are going to affect his chances n the general election.I guess the subject now will be is how Obama turned his back on his church.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:15 pm |
  77. Ben Ward

    Jack – Why does this matter all of a sudden? African Americans have had to endure the worst kind of racism from white churches and white religious leaders since this nation's founding– including the Southern Baptist Church's support of slavery and many congregations where forced segregation was the rule. At what point did America get so pious that we as a nation have a right to attack a black candidate because of his church affiliation? This whole controversy is pure hypocrisy on the part of demagogues who are completely idiopathic and short sighted. Given the fact that the GOP draws support from a myriad of right wing religious bigots like Pat Robertson, Christian Identity and John Hagee, it's laughable that Obama's political opponents are trying to make an issue out of his church association.

    However, to answer your question... "no"– it won't make a difference to those of us who truly love Christ and who can see through all of this political mess as we focus on what's really important: "Doing God's will on earth as it is in heaven" and making sure that the nation does not elect another creep whose policies and political message sound a lot like G.W. Bush!

    June 2, 2008 at 3:19 pm |
  78. James Mo

    Many people of the older generations, myself included, were raised by very racist parents. Yet we were able to see the harm in their ways and raised our children to know that it is character, not the color of ones skin, that is important. For those that are concerned that he sat through sermons that were "un-American" and think he wasn't old enough at the time to decide what he should take from the sermon and what he should leave behind, seem to forget that our generation took what was good from our own upbringing, and left the other behind, and we were able to do it, even if it was taught to us since birth. The Republicans can not fight Obama on the issues, so they will try to fight with this, but this is one Republican that isn't going to buy it this year. I am proud to be and Obamacan!

    June 2, 2008 at 3:28 pm |
  79. SB

    What get's me is that the so many are hung up on where Obama is going to church and how they are able to link what other ministers say to him as if he said it. If the we want to get judgmental and act as if we are w/o sin. The first question to ask Is.. is there anyone without sin who is able to judge this matter? It's a shame that those who want to be a judge don't even understand what church is about. Read the Bible there are some controversarial things in it that you won't like or want to hear. If we are going to judge Obama. First we need examine ourselves. A believers faith in God is personal not political.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:29 pm |
  80. William from Sanford, NC

    This will not make any difference in Barack Obama's chances this November. Ninety-nine per cent of voters have already made up their mind who they will vote for in the general election.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  81. Don Bezler

    Jack I don't think Obama should have left his CHURCH MCCAIN &
    BUSH did leave theres. The Republicans were looking for
    some thing for McBush to RUN on besides Bushs RECORD.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  82. Linda in Florida

    Personally, I don't care what church he goes to or doesn't go to. Of more importance to me is what he plans to do about health care, the price of oil / gas, etc., etc.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:38 pm |

    it hurts obama more than he knows. these type associations keep coming out week after week. people know that being around someone for 20+ years has had an influence regardless of what he says now!

    June 2, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  84. Julie, NY

    I found it incredibly selfish of Obama to choose to resign from his church the same day the delegate situation in Florida and Michigan was being decided. He made sure the headlines were about him, not the poor voters who were disenfranchised in those two states. He is an extremely self centered individual who has not value for democracy and this will be his downfall in November.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  85. Bob in Charlotte NC

    Jack, Let's hope this puts an end once and for all to this absolute non-issue. Anyone who believes Obama felt anything like Wrights rants has not been listening to Obammas speeches, and if they were listening are too stupid to vote for him anyway. I just hope the media is smart enough to finally let this nonsense end.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  86. Rod of IL


    The news media are the ones with the impropriety questions! In their obvious conniving attempt to exasperate this issue by repeatedly inundating the air way with shadow sarcasm only being directed toward Barack Obama. If they would have spent the same amount of time investigating Hillary's and McCain's church I'm sure they would have found some snippet as well. They have been so disingenuous Jack!

    June 2, 2008 at 3:46 pm |
  87. Josh Askew (Pearl Harbor, HI)

    Jack, it can only effect him in a positive way. After all, he has the best spin-doctors working for him: the American media. Don't believe me? If you can stomach it, flip the channel to MSNBC.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  88. Sterling Greenwood, Aspen

    If Obama now converts to Catholicism, I wonder if he'll get bashed because the Rev. Michael Pfeger, who preached that last controversial sermon in Obama's former church, is himself a Catholic priest.
    Sterling Greenwood
    Aspen Free Press

    June 2, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  89. Rick PA

    Being separation of church and state in the constitution, the rule of law doesn't seem to matter to people. What's next divorcing his wife and dis owning his kids. I think a win win situation would be Ron Paul and Chuck Hagel in his cabinet. Restore the constitution!!!

    June 2, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  90. Rabbi Sally J. Priesand

    Obama's resignation from his church smacks of the same old politics. Having been a member of the church for twenty years, perhaps he should have tried to change the atmosphere that allowed the kind of sermons we have heard of late. A speech to his fellow congregants like the one Bobby Kennedy gave after Martin Luther King's assassination would have reflected true leadership. If he can't even change his church, then how does he expect to bring together the people of America?

    Rabbi Sally J. Priesand
    Ocean Township, NJ

    June 2, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  91. Mike, Ohio

    Jack, It could only hep. Besides he wasn’t the one saying these things anyway. I known alot of people that I know or have been associated with that say and do things I don’t agree with, it happens.
    By the way-which church does Hillary Clinton or John McCain go to or do they even attend one?

    June 2, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  92. Diane Glasser

    I think it was more the media who are the blame for this. Every time I turned the news on there was some reporter giving their view on this religious controversy. I did not see much media coverage of McCain's minister friends who said even worse things. I feel the national news reporters thought Obama would sell more news coverage than McCain.
    Lets keep politics and religion separate. Let us not become like the waring nations in the Middle East who have been battling religious wars for thousands of years. I once thought those in public office were beneath this pettiness I do hope we can return to civility again.

    June 2, 2008 at 3:51 pm |
  93. Rich

    When race is the real issue, people look for any excuse not to vote for Obama. That's why it won't help at all.

    June 2, 2008 at 4:16 pm |
  94. Nick - Cary, North Carolina

    It has no effect. Barrack is going to need a new church in Washington DC very soon anyway.

    June 2, 2008 at 4:17 pm |
  95. Mary - PA

    I don't know if it will change any minds but I think it's an absolute shame that Sen. Obama has been vilified not by his comments but by comments made by others. I also think it's awful that this church has been put under such a large microscope.

    I have heard many things preached from the pulpit that I don't agree with but that didn't keep me from attending that church. A church is more then the pulpit. It is a community of believers and sometimes those believers make mistakes. Sen. Obama should not be judged by a few sermans spoken from the pulpit of his church any more then I should be.

    June 2, 2008 at 4:19 pm |
  96. Y in Georgia

    Nothing will hinder Obama from becoming the next President of the United States. I believe he did the right thing for the sake of the church. With all the bomb threats and continuous scrutiny the church has been receiving, I am ashamed that there are such vicious people in our county. It was a hard but necessary decision.

    June 2, 2008 at 4:22 pm |
  97. Bodo from Ann Arbor

    If the Obama family is moving into the White House, they need another church anyway.

    June 2, 2008 at 4:22 pm |
  98. CJ in Atlanta, GA

    Too little, too late. This Democrat is voting for McCain if Clinton cannot get the nomination.

    June 2, 2008 at 4:23 pm |
  99. james

    You can take obama out of the church, but you can't take the church (or it's views) out of obama. Hillary 08, or McCain 08, Hillary 2012

    June 2, 2008 at 4:28 pm |
  100. Vanessa in South Carolina

    It's the media's fault! They continue to sensationalize this. Now the media wants to know which church will he join? Ministers will be locking their doors!

    June 2, 2008 at 4:29 pm |
  101. Ronnell

    I think that some politicians are not in touch with the general public of America,I feel the new more politically in tune America has a beat on whats real and whats not,the people know what he must do to save our country from its self and if that means leaving your church than so be it.

    After all isn't that what we all want in a President one that will sacrifice himself or herself for the good of the country.

    I think he loves his country and he loves his fellow American's......

    June 2, 2008 at 4:30 pm |
  102. Jeromy Hutchinson

    It should not but probably will. People are acting as if he renounced God, he did not. Here we have constitutional scholar with the potential to bring about real change to the political scene in Washington DC. He has basically being thrown under the bus by the right wing and even some in his own party simply because he belonged to a church that held progressive views. Meanwhile we have president who cannot even spell the word constitution, a candidate who was around before the thing was even written, and yet another whose only constitutional concern at this point is whether or not there is time to pass an amendment ensuring she becomes the 44th President.

    Judge Not yest ye be judged yourself. His faith is just that, his faith, and not ours to judge.

    Jeromy H.
    Cleveland Ohio

    June 2, 2008 at 4:53 pm |
  103. Deb from Lancaster, PA

    I hope that his distancing himself from this congregation will be a positive move.
    While I am a steadfast Obama supporter, I believe that this should have been done long ago. But you know what? I'm a Catholic and I am appalled at what one of our priests said as guest pastor at Trinity.
    Should I be held responsible for his words because I'm a Catholic? I don't think so.
    It isn't the congregation or the pastor that is important. It is one's personal beliefs, and I don't think a single person in this country REALLY believes these are Obama's views. Some just want to, because it gives them an excuse to not vote for a person of color.

    June 2, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
  104. Tina from VA


    For the first time I went grocery shopping and because of the high food prices I had to buy meat in the "reduced priced" section. The cost of the other meats were too high. I don't care where the candidates go to church. I want to know how they will lower gas and food prices.

    Stick to the issues!

    June 2, 2008 at 4:55 pm |
  105. Sharon/Illinois

    It probably only matters to really dumb or really prejudiced people and I bet it won't change any closed minds.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
  106. Dee

    I hope that voters will judge the man for his abilities and not for what church he belongs to. I wonder-did all those who criticized and called for Obama to quit his church call for all our Catholic leaders to quit the Catholic church after the atrocities committed against innocent children by many, many priests and covered up by the church?

    June 2, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  107. Marty, Idaho

    I guess I don't undertand exactly how this is related to health-care, the economy, the war, global warming, or gas prices. If I did, maybe I could see how it would affect Obama's chances.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  108. sherrill

    I don't give a flying fig about what Rev. Wright said! I care about the economy.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:37 pm |
  109. Frank Malone

    Dear Jack,
    Due to the fundamental principle of American politics which is the seperation of church and state, the departure of senator Obama is likely to improve his chances of actually being eleced on November the twentieth. His seperation from the chusch that he has knownsince a child should just prove to all the potential voters that he will not bring those beliefs with him to the oval office of the White House.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:45 pm |
  110. KD

    You can take the man out of the church, but you can't take the church out of the man. He left because it was hurting him politically. If he actually disagreed with what was coming from the pulpit, he would have left a long time ago.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:46 pm |
  111. charmaine from canada

    Hi Jack,

    I hope that it has little or no effect at all. I thinl Americans are tired of being distracted of issues that wil relate very little to a presidency. Most want some relief at the gas pump, security in their future and a just end to an unjust war (Iraq). I have yet to see how this stuff effects key policy issues.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:46 pm |
  112. Caryn, WDC

    Trinity was unfairly thrown into the media spotlight and they weren't prepared to handle all of the scrutiny. They were susceptible to people like Father Pleger coming in to grandstand at the congregation's expense.

    It's very sad that Obama had to resign from his church but it's obvious that this was a major weakness for him.

    I'd say that it won't hurt him but the Republicans will stoop to new lows to exploit this in any way possible.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:47 pm |
  113. Kim St. Petersburg

    Why should it! For the first time in 7 months my brother has the opportunity to attend his church, since coming home from Iraq. What I care about is if he will be able to worship at home or if he will be sent back to fight a war that should have never been fough

    June 2, 2008 at 5:50 pm |
  114. Maria Markham

    Hi Jack:

    Obama is full of charm but NO SUBSTANCE. How can the American people be fooled by his charm – nobody really knows who he really is, his beliefs. Don't you think it's a little bit too late for him to resign from his church? Twenty years is a long association and how could he possibly not know what Jeremiah Wright is all about? He resigned for political gain. I'm sorry to say I just don't trust him as a person and his judgment.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:52 pm |
  115. christine

    As a proud athiest, I believe more in the seperation of church and state than I do in some fantasy. i was raised catholic and through the years I have rejected all religious cults in favor of reason. I dont't care about crazy preachers. We are used ti them. I care about the economy, healthcare, equal rights and all of the "earthly problems we all face every day no matter what else we may believe.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:58 pm |
  116. Jim Hinton (Baltimore, MD)

    I don't think it will effect anyone's decision to vote for him or not, except for the bit of people who were right on the edge of whether to support him or not because of the Wright issue. The damage of Rev. Wright has already been done, and though I support Obama, it is a fairly transparent play, albeit necessary.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:59 pm |
  117. Royalprince of Ann Arbor, MI

    I really don't think Obama leaving the church will help him or hurt him. However, I think that people may start to wonder why after hearing those recent remarks my Rev. Michael Pfleger, that he took 20 years to finally leave a very divisive and hateful church.

    June 2, 2008 at 5:59 pm |
  118. james_scranton@msn.com

    As far as I am concern it is between him and the church and it shouldn't be any of the media, or anybody else's business at all periond. As for hurting him I hope people have more common sense that to let this be a issue at, but they don't they let the media think for them now days instead of making the decision themselves and that is sad because our younger generation is not thinking for themselves on who to vote for.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:02 pm |
  119. Carla

    I am a recent college graduate that may have to take a minnimum wage job to pay my bills (or as many as I can) because the economy is in bad shape and I am one of many looking for a job. McCain has said that our country is doing good.
    Obviously we have one candidate that is clueless and has no clue what is affecting the working class of the United States. We have another candidate that went to college by scholarship and student loans and has a clue about what common people go through.
    These are the issues of importance not what church he goes to on Sunday. This is not important to a majority of the United States putting food on the table is the issue, paying 4 dollars for gas is the issue.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:02 pm |
  120. Nancy K., Indiana

    Isn't there some constitutional law about the separation of "church and state"? Well it is too bad that Senator Obama's church had to come out with the preachers saying things that would only hurt him and his family. I believe Obama did what he had to do in this period of his life although I imagine it was a very hard decision only because of he and his family 20 year involvement with the people in that church. Whenever the media stops pouncing on it and re-living it on TV all the time, then perhaps it will go away!

    June 2, 2008 at 6:05 pm |
  121. Robert

    Hardly at all Jack, the damage is done. He should have worried 20 years ago when he chose to associate with Reverend Wright if it was politically convenient or not.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:05 pm |
  122. Phe in GA

    He/She,who has not sinned, cast the fist stone.

    Church State

    June 2, 2008 at 6:06 pm |
  123. MJ in Indianapolis

    Jack –

    Many people have had to leave a church before. It is not an easy decision. Like Oboma, you stay for the "community" as well as the sermons and faith it helps build.

    However, if the views of the pastor go against biblical teachings, I.e. "Do unto others" and "turn the other cheek" all of which Dr. King employed, you have to make a decision and live with it.

    Saying goodbye to church "family" is not easy. What makes it worth while is knowing you made a decision according to your principles and values – of which in this case seemed late in the process. Again, better late than never.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:06 pm |
  124. Phe in GA

    He/She,who has not sinned, cast the fist stone.

    Church -----------------State

    June 2, 2008 at 6:08 pm |
  125. EBC

    WHO the hell cares? I have family members I WANT gone from my family, so what? I mean jesus, how many times do we carry on like a bunch of juveniles over this petty and silly issue.

    THERE are far MORE important matters, like paying $5.00 for gas!!

    Give me a break, this story is so stupid on all levels. Let's move on to something WORTH mentioning. Geeez, how lame are we going to get. All this coverage over something so stupid.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:08 pm |
  126. Mary

    I will vote for Obama no matter what church he goes to. That is none of OUR business.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:08 pm |
  127. John-for-Obama

    It should never have been an issue. End of story!

    June 2, 2008 at 6:08 pm |

    JACK, what OBAMA has done for twenty years you don't erase with a wave of the hand. My grandmother said to me long ago and that is "Tell me who you travel with and I will tell you what you really are".
    Apparently this fits OBAMA well as we don't know who this guy is.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:09 pm |
  129. virginia Loeb

    Obama referred to his minister as his mentor and advisor all through this campaign. He sought his advise before running for office in Illinois, the senate and the presidency.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:14 pm |
  130. Sandy

    It matters alot that just because he is running for President of the United States he is now resigning the church when he sat there for 20 years and listend to what the preacher had to say. Shame of both him and Michelle. Evidently she didn't care either. They both believe what he preaches or they would not have sat there and let their children be
    apart of his messages. They are just fooling alot of people. America please wake up

    June 2, 2008 at 6:19 pm |
  131. Joan

    I don't buy the "family discussion" motive. It was the right thing to do politically but, once again, it took him too long to do it. Obviously, he joined that church to gain political acceptance in the black community when his political career was beginning. Can't fault him for that. He was young and had to get a foot in the door. But nothing is going to erase from the voters' minds now that it took him 20 years and a shot at the presidency to figure out that many of the views expressed over the years in this church were extreme, racist and bigoted.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:20 pm |
  132. Steve

    It will not affect Obama's chances in the race much, if at all. I believe most Americans realize that all the "faith-based" news coverage he's been getting lately is less about Obama than about the place of religion in American politics and how firmly and deeply it is entrenched there. That's one side of this issue no reporter is stepping up to examine.

    Steve in Raleigh, NC

    June 2, 2008 at 6:20 pm |
  133. Manny

    I think that Obama's resignation may not affect his campagin as much as people think it will. The resignation was a smart thing to do. Even through that's never going to stop a person from saying what they think!! Obama is a smart man and does what he think is right but his still not ready to become the next commander and chief. Go Hillary Clinton and she will win even if the math does not look good for her!!!!!!!

    June 2, 2008 at 6:20 pm |
  134. Nidale Hosri

    I have been attending mass and going to church for as long as i remember. To be honest, there were so many times that i disagreed with the priest. That didn't stop me from going. The democratic party, which i am a member of by the way, is essentially built on ideas that the catholic church itself refuses. Does that mean that Catholics can;t be democrats? We have a black nominee and a woman nominee running in this race. We have reached a point where all this doesn't matter.
    I believe that distancing himself from this congregation will help him because some people needed him to distance himself from these pastors' ideas in order to eliminate any doubt that he shared these disturbing views. To be honest , though, this issue never really mattered to me. I am a 20 year old college student from New York. I represent the part of America that supports Obama and doesn't have him under the most magnified microscope ever. I hope people will let this go already.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:20 pm |
  135. william k. fitzwater

    Brack is a Christian just like me. You can leave a chruch but you never leave your fgaith . Hopefully He will be looking january 2008 for new church in Wash DC.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:20 pm |
  136. Devon

    Whatever happened to seperation of church and state? We all know Obama is a great guy with a great plan for our great country. And then two controversal sermons are given and all of a sudden people raise questions like he is a part of a cult. How about we focus on a real threat, like climate change.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:22 pm |
  137. Eric A

    Is there no one left that honestly believes in separation of church and state!!

    June 2, 2008 at 6:24 pm |
  138. Chewie

    Lets see, disavow 20 years of teaching and belief, and a second later I no longer believe. Does he have a single friend that isn't a danger to the Presidency? If he does, better stay away from buses!

    June 2, 2008 at 6:25 pm |
  139. lynne

    If common sense rings true (and I say it loosely given the lack of understanding with separation of church and state) on this so-called church issue, it will be a non-issue come November.

    I remember the last Presidential Election when I was in the alcove voting. My sole purpose was to get rid of George Bush. I didn't give
    a flying flip about the swift boat issue or gay marriage. Neither one hindered my survival then or now. Only the lack of adequate services and high prices that the White House has ignored have done that.

    June 2, 2008 at 6:32 pm |