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May 12th, 2008
01:53 PM ET

Landslide victory in W.V. put Clinton back in race?

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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Hillary Clinton is expected to win big tomorrow in West Virginia. A new poll there shows her leading Barack Obama by 34 points. Clinton remains strong among working-class whites, women and older voters – and those demographics should play to her advantage in West Virginia as well as next week in Kentucky.

But, how much does it really matter? Obama seems to have this thing pretty much in the bag. He leads Clinton in overall delegates, states won, popular vote... and now for the first time, in superdelegates. You may remember, at the beginning of the year, Clinton led the superdelegate race by more than 100.

Clinton is vowing to stay in the race until someone gets enough delegates to clinch the nomination. Her campaign is also pushing the idea that she's "within striking distance" of winning the popular vote, which should make her the nominee – even though the rules are clear – the nomination is won with delegates, not the popular vote. It's clear that Clinton has a steep road to climb for any chance at the nomination. Her campaign is also confirming that she is now $20 million in debt.

For its part, the Obama camp seems to have its sights set on November already. Instead of waiting for election night results in West Virginia tomorrow, Barack Obama will travel to Missouri, a swing state in the general election. Next week, he's headed to Florida. It's also worth noting that the tone of introductory speeches at his events has turned much more partisan, focusing in on John McCain.

Here’s my question to you: Is it possible for a landslide victory in West Virginia to put Hillary Clinton back in the race?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?


Judie from St. Augustine, Florida writes:

Jack, Hillary only thinks she is still in the race; the race has been over for some time. But please don't let her know… it's a secret we are keeping from her. She is basically running against herself, like a hamster running on a wheel getting nowhere. This is really getting sadder day by day.

Robert writes:
Jack, The horse is dead. Stop beating it. It's over. Good night Irene. Elvis has left the building. The fat lady doesn't do encores. Remember to tip your servers. The entire world (except for Hillary) recognizes that it is over for Clinton.

Susan from Missouri writes:
Jack, The race is not over. Hillary can still win the nomination.

Travis writes:
Honestly, a year ago I couldn't imagine even having this conversation. Obama came out of nowhere and took this nomination from the Clintons because they felt entitled to it. He worked really hard, played by the rules laid out by the DNC and won it fair and square. Looking at Hillary's shortsighted campaign, divisiveness and campaign debt, how good would she be at running the country? This thing is over.

Lanny from Kentucky writes:
I live in Kentucky. A co-worker told me months ago that for the first time in history we might have a chance to change the outcome of an election. I would have never believed him but now it looks like it could become a reality. My family and I will be voting for Hillary on May 20th.

Winsten from Berrien Springs, Michigan writes:
A landslide victory in West Virginia is just one more reason for Barack Obama to put Hillary on the ticket. Who else but Hillary can deliver the Hatfield/McCoy vote?

Tom from Huntington, New York writes:
You just love stirring the pot. Don't you, Jack?

soundoff (115 Responses)
  1. Obama Baby

    I hope not. Hilary is just killing every chance Obama has to win the democratic nomination and start his battle with McCain. There will be no time for Obama to turn his attention to McCain if this race does not finish ASAP. She can win West Virginia but she's hurting the Democratic party. that's for sure.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm |
  2. gina in long beach california

    With the media already deciding who the democratic nominee is, I would have to say no, Jack.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:24 pm |
  3. Julie, NY

    Jack, she's still in the race, so she can't be put back in it. What a silly question.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  4. A Kraft Naples, FL

    back in what race...she is and has been out of it for awhile...she does not know how to leave with any dignity and so she runs and runs and runs and runs until she falls down and cannot get up

    May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  5. Matt Callaway in Omaha, NE

    No chance. The result is assured, we're just figuring out the final score.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  6. Michael in Lorton, Virginia

    Jack: Anything is possible, however, but I would not hold my breath on possibilities, but put my faith in probabilities. She will enjoy her last two victories, West Virginia and Kentucky.......small battles.......but she has lost the political war. It is over for Hillary. She needs to consider withdrawing from the race with the little dignity she has left. The horse is dead, not matter how much you keep beating it.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  7. David, Orlando, FL

    I must have had one of my hallucinations sincew yesterday. I didn’t know she dropped out. Never mind. The only thing to get her out of the race, even if she looses big time in all the remaining states is if she is dragged off of the trail kicking and screaming. I say she will stay in the race until the bitter end – or was that the other guy who said that?

    May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  8. Tom, Avon, Maine, The Heart of Democracy

    She has lost. Former supporter Rep. Tom Allen of the great State of Maine has acknowledged it and is now rallying around Senator Obama. It is time for Senator Clinton to do the same. Her New York Yankees were more gracious about losing to the Red Sox. There is a difference between quitting and losing. She has lost.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  9. Michelle

    She's had many chances. I doubt this one will make any difference. She put herself in the situation she's in and only she can take herself out. The only way to do that is to drop out and help unite the Democratic party.

    Michelle
    Toronto, Canada

    May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  10. joseph jacir

    Hillary and Bill believe the White house belongs to the Clintons and America owes it to them......They are resorting to all sorts of gimmicks to make their dream come true....In this process they have ruined their stature and reputation and split the Democratic party....enough of the Clintons and the Bushes.Let us see new blood and new faces in Washington

    May 12, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  11. byhen

    Sure, if your last name is Clinton you're never out of it. I wonder what back room deal she is working on.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  12. Dana W.

    Jack
    It doesn't make a bit of difference at these point! Hilliary is starting to look more like Bush because she is not willing to accept defeat when it's it right in her face! Give it up Hillary, your doing women and Dem’s a disservice!

    May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  13. Marcus mt.olive

    Hillary was never out of the race;it seems the liberal media is afraid of letting the voters pick whom ever they want;

    May 12, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  14. Dana W.

    Jack it doesn't make a bit of difference at these point! Hilliary is starting to look more like Bush because she is not willing to accept defeat when it's it right in her face! Give it up Hillary, your doing women and Dem’s a disservice!

    Dana, St. Louis, MO

    May 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm |
  15. Ray,Florida

    No Jack!

    Of course she will try to spin it that way.
    I think she will try to get the poular vote lead any way she can!
    That's the only chance she has going into the convention.

    It's sad to witness her desperation!

    Ray

    May 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm |
  16. gina

    Jack...

    All Hillary wants to do after the W.Virginia primary, is to gloat about how only she can get the 'white' vote...therefore, she is ...(so tired of hearing this line from her.)."more electable".

    She is driving the race factor down our throats, pItting white's against
    black's at the polls....who would ever want a president who plays the race card?

    Not once have I ever heard Sen.Obama state only he can get the "black vote".....

    May 12, 2008 at 2:28 pm |
  17. Wendy. San Rafael, CA

    The only real state that Hillary is really winning is the state of denial.

    No. A win in WV will not change the math. It is over and she needs to face it and leave. The sooner she does the sooner the DNC can recoup its loss of funds with money going to Obama and Hillary rather than their coffers for the General Election race.

    A shift in her priorities to the Democratic Party rather than herself would do a lot to heal the divisions and allow the shift of focus to move to the General Election race.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:29 pm |
  18. RC Lendz Philadelphia, PA

    She trails in the popular vote by less than 700,000 people. She could easily be right back in this. She is leading in polls in KY by about 24% points, and trails by 2% points in polls in Oregon. With Puerto Rico, Montana, and South Dakota as winner-take-all states, Hillary could still win. Plus the FL and MI delegates will be decided at a meeting of the DNC rules committee on May 31, according to Donna Brazile. Could be a very interesting next few weeks. Welcome to the 2008 primaries.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  19. Ed, Bay Area

    Jack,

    Only one thing is for sure... there won't be a White House Wedding for Chelsea Clinton.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  20. Jerry

    Jack

    First it was the kitchen sink, now a landslide, what will the strategy
    be on Wednesday morning for Hillary. The driveway up to the
    White House is getting longer and steeper. It looks like she'll
    continue to get the whites, woman, and older voters, but I hear
    "The Fat Lady" warming up in the background.

    Jerry
    Roselle, Illinois

    May 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm |
  21. T. Brockman Barrington IL

    After Hillary's comments about "hard working Americans, white Americans" supporting her its not surprising that she would win
    W Virginia by a large margin.W Virginia is a heavily white and working
    class state. I don't think it will be 40 points though and
    I also don't think it will change the momentum towards Barack Obama. Over 20 superdelegates have come over to Obama since Indiana and North Carolina last Tuesday. Only a net of 2 for Hillary. That speaks for itself.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm |
  22. Peter Pan McKinney, Texas

    Nope. The race is over. Obama is the all around front runner now. More popular vote, more delegates and more super delegates. It is all over for Hillary but the crying. The sad thing is, Hillary with her mouth, was her own worst enemy. There is no one to blame for Hillary Clinton's failure but Hillary. Not the media, not the American people and certainly not her own party. Hillary Clinton is now just a part of History and History will not look well on her.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:32 pm |
  23. Raymond Duke/Gatesville,Tx.

    I doudt it ,Jack, with the media so biased for their lovechild "Barack" and the democrat party underminding her campaign. I think she ought to pull a "Joe Lieberman" and run as a independent, she could win. What do you owe a traitor like the democrat party, "nothing" go for it Hillary. II'm an independent and "lou Dobbs" fan. I don"t like none of them at all but it is easy to see if you have half a brain that she is the best canidate to handle this country with the problems it faces.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm |
  24. Marc

    Jack

    Hillary could win 70-30 tomorrow and again in Kentucky next week but it won't make a bit of difference. She will gain about 20 pledged delegates in those 2 contests but Obama will more than make up for that out west and in superdelegates. Obama will reach 2025 in Oregon no matter how you slice or dice it.

    Obama has moved on and apparently most superdelegates have moved on – only Hillary, Bill and a few loyal supporters are hanging on preying for Obama to implode. It isn't going to happen.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm |
  25. Jenny

    JAck,

    This is Hillary we are talking about here. If she and Bill could they would personally cause this landside. I honestly think that the CLintons have worn out their welcome why else would a guy no one but Oprah and a few people in Illinois have ever heard of be ahead of her in the nomination process.

    Jenny ROme GA

    May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm |
  26. Julie, NY

    I think at the end of this process, one of two scenarios are likely. In the first scenario, Hillary wins the popular vote, becomes the nominee, wins the presidency and fixes this country. In scenario two, Hillary wins the most votes but loses the nomination anyways. Obama then goes on to win the White House and messes things up even further while Hillary makes a positive impact on the world and wins a Nobel Peace Prize. I prefer scenario 1; in scenario 2, I lose all faith in Americans and their ability to learn not only from history, but RECENT history!

    May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm |
  27. AZM

    Last I checked Obama doesn't have all that's needed for the nomination.

    So yea... Hillary is in it... all the way to the convention.

    NoBAMA NO WAY

    May 12, 2008 at 2:33 pm |
  28. David - Texas

    Only if HRC shuts him out in the delegate count – winning more than 85% of the vote. That will stop the super Ds for a week – then its Oregon & its Over.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  29. Jeff Washington

    No Jack the race is over.........And I don't think that she would win it in Nov. anyway. She cares more about her ego than the democratic party..
    She is causing some divide within the party..and is only hurting herself by doing so....

    May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  30. Chuck in Eugene Oregon

    Jack as I watch this race for the democrat nomination, I have learned to be never surprised. Anything is possible. My concern is Obama at this moment. He has not sealed the deal for the nomination, yet he now appears to be marching to a different drummer so to speak. I think he needs to back up and focus on sealing this deal completely before he looses his bearings, throwing a wrench into his game plan.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  31. Cynthia

    Plain and simple No. Everyone knew in advance that Senator Clinton is expected to win West Virginina by large numbers – so no surprise there.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  32. shiloh stowell

    Short of a catastrophic revelation, i think that Obama has the thing sewed up. If she's looking for the VP nomination then piling up the popular vote would be her strategy. I liked what a fellow blogger had to say, tongue in cheek , about that : "Obama would need a food taster if Hilary was VP".

    May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  33. Jessica Irons

    It depends on who you ask. If you ask people who can add and subtract, no is the answer. If you ask The Clintons, yes. "Momentum" + the white blue collar vote + sheer will gives Hillary all the reason she needs to keep at it through August. I just hope Superdelegates will stop her after this Tuesday and not allow the Clinton Spin Cycle to force Obama to be distracted. The prospect of a race that is Lincoln/Douglas style across the country really means change in our political system starting now – even before Obama is elected. That is exciting. The other possible change in our political system would be very bad for our country, if Clinton sticks around much longer, her ongoing sense of entitlement, will actually have some truth to it. By not committing to Obama, Superdelegates will be telling Clinton she is entitled, and then telling us, the voters she's entitled. And if she is entitled, well I think we need a long hard look at what our democracy has become.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  34. D.J.Lauter

    We know that Hillary will be campaigning until Obama is sworn in, and maybe after, but judging from the tv reports, it is impossible to catch up with him, so why the discussion?
    Dj
    California

    May 12, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  35. BillD

    No. It just gives you media types something to blather about until she finally does leave the race.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  36. Bill from Redding, CA

    Absolutely!!!! Tomorrow's win should put her over the top and we can then get on with the Clinton-Paul Presidential debates.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  37. Nuwan Sam

    I don't know whether it will put her back in the race. But it will definitly make people rethink. He could not take a single state with that kind of a margin. A huge victory is a reflection of what is to come in November. It would say there are more chance are for Obama to loose in this elections which should favor democrats. Democrats are digging their own grave by throwing Clinton away. She is still there in this race because she knows that reality. Reality sometime hurts Jack but you have to accept it. Because that is how it is.

    Nuwan from Houston, TX

    May 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  38. Yve Fort Washington, MD

    A win in West Virginia would change nothing for Senator Clinton. It is virtually impossible to catch Obama.

    Wouldn't it be ironic if the polls are inaccurate as they were in Indiana and she squeaks by with a 2% victory and Obama hasn't step foot in WV?

    May 12, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  39. George

    I didn't know that Hillary was out of the race. Did she quit while I wasn't watching? You media people get my goat. You have no idea how the everyday American people live, and furthur more you don't give a damn, as long as you run bullcrap on the news, if is is true, or non biased , or not, all that you all are interested in is filling your pockets with advertising dollars. I can just bet you hope that Hillary doesn't win because she would get even with all of you. Might just do it anyways if the people who voted for her will just stick together. If she ran as an Independent like Lieberman she still has a chance, because there are a lot of Republican women, and those who have been disenchanted since the Reverend Wright thingy, who would vote for her. I am not a woman, But I do believe in womens right, and she will get my vote, or no one will.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  40. Mark, Berwyn, PA

    No.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  41. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    Yes, she can get back in the race if she wins WV by 75% followed up with Kentucky, Oregon, South Dakota, and the last two by the same margin. It also depends on her lawyers and how much money she is willing to spend to count Florida and Michigan at 100% for her and don't think she won't do it.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  42. CJ in Atlanta, GA

    Absolutely! If Hillary wins the popular vote in the primaries, she deserves the nomination. Don't we all wish it worked out that way for Al Gore? Our country would be much better off today if it had!

    May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm |
  43. Mark, Berwyn, PA

    I hope my prevoius blunt and to-the-point email post doesn't get 'moderated' like all my others!!!!

    May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm |
  44. Nancy

    I think that Hillary Clinton is too much of a fighter to give up the delegates she is going to win in West Virginia.

    Despite this probable delegate gain, a vast majority of Democrats, including many superdelegates, even those who have not endorsed anyone yet, have realized that it is a near impossibility for her to win the nomination. She might as well be given a chance to compete until the last primary, in June, but if she is smart, she will end her campaign sooner, to avoid dividing the party further.

    Nancy
    New Jersey

    ps. the blog looks great guys!! nice work!!

    May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm |
  45. Terry in Hanover County, VA

    No, but my Mom's really ticked off at Obama for blowing off West Virginia as a blue collar hick state. The Eastern Panhandle is more like D.C. and around Charleston is an excellent university. She's so mad that she's not going to bother to vote tomorrow and she's an Obama supporter. A friend of hers, however, will vote because her friend got a call personally from Bill Clinton asking her for her vote. We were all shocked that Bill was calling average citizens to ask for their votes. He must have a lot of free time on his hands.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:37 pm |
  46. Terrance Craion

    No it would not, the perception (slow trickle of superdelegates, recent comments of Clinton supporters, etc) and money suggest that Sen Hillary Clinton is nearing the end. Whatever advantages she earns in WV, KY, or Puerto Rico will be countered by wins in Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota for Sen Obama. We are just playing out the string until after the last primary in June!

    Detroit, MI

    May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  47. Arilo

    Well, history shows that West Virginia always picked the right nominee.

    With all the media-hype, glorifying Obama as the presumptive nominee, he should be able to carry West Virginia very easily? Like John F Kennedy did, and all the other nominees that took place before him..

    But the Democratic Front Runner isnt winning West Virginia?

    Umm... somethings wrong with this Kool Aid, its tasting sour....

    The democratic party should wake up, and be careful not to lose this general election. We are hurting, and we cannot afford to lose this election.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  48. dorothy delong

    Jack I think a lot could happen between now and the convention something could blow up about Obama. Something is fishy about him. It is bound to come out sooner than later. How a no body would become a president is something I cant understand.
    Dorothy Lucasville Ohio

    May 12, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  49. Mark - Asheville, NC

    No, the fix is in.

    It's been in since Obama made his speech at the 2004 convention; it's plain to me now. He was the appointed nominee for 2008 even then, but the Clinton machine got in the way and was more powerful than expected. How inconvenent.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
  50. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    Nope, but I'm not uneducated or hard working any more.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
  51. Barack

    Yes, if Hillary wins I will bow out .....

    May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  52. Olu

    No. However, landslide victory in WV gives her an opportunity to leave the stage on a winning note. I hope she make use of the opportunity because there may not be another one.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  53. Can Hillary Unite or just divide.

    Jack, conventional wisdom is that a lot has changed since Bill was in the white house. W. VA will be won by McCain this year regardless of who is the democratic party nominee. Clinton could win W Va by 100% and it wouldn't matter to the primary or the general election. This thing is done and the only people that don't know it yet are the supporters that Clinton has suckered into thinking she has a shot.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  54. Patrick

    No. Superdelegates are counting her out, neutrals are counting her out, supporters are counting her out... math is counting her out. A big win will allow the race to continue though, as she turns to the claim that "hard working whites" want her in office which means, obviously, that she should be in office. Sadly, West Virginia is an important state in November as it has been traditionally Democrat until recently voting Bush for two terms. Hillary will point to this, use it against Obama and his supporters, and even further alienate herself from the superdelegates while destroying the Democrats chances in November.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  55. lil. georgia

    NO!!, But she think it will.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  56. j.smith

    she can win what ever she wants. Its time for her to go home.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  57. roxanne

    Well all good things must come to an end and being the Hillary supporter I started as I don't think the West Va. vote will decide anything but what the people of West Va. want.When it's all said and done the overall results will be when someone gets to the goal.It looks sure as hell that Obama will get there first so lets not make everything drama.Time to rally around the candidate and stop letting the pundents own the process.American voters need to take back the process and throw the dancing bums out.Enough is enough!!!!

    May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  58. Jo-Ann

    Along with Kentucky and may losing by a small margin in the other states – YES! There will be a big problem is she doesn't start getting a fair shake.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  59. Erin

    As a Michigan resident, nothing irritates me more than to hear the Clinton campaign–and by extension, the media–give credence to the popular vote spin.

    We would NEVER teach our children to honor election results where
    1. the candidates don't campaign, one candidate is well known and the other is a new guy (Florida)
    or
    2. that same new guy isn't even on the ballot (Michigan)

    Doesn't "process" matter most here?

    May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  60. Brian (NJ)

    With respect to West Virginia and Kentucky, she's doing Obama a favor by staying in the race. He's going to lose those states by big margins even if she drops out, so it will look better if she is still running.

    As for the nomination, it's just a matter of time. Her margin of victory is inconsequential.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  61. Liz

    No, it's the math. Rules are rules–even if your last name is Clinton.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  62. Chuck in MO

    Jack, I hope for your sake that your wife manages all the money in
    your family, as you obviously have no clue about how to do basic math
    nor what the concept of being in debt beyond recovery means.
    Most people in her situation would have abandoned this futile endeavor
    some time ago. Her persistence just proves that she really doesn't
    have the sound judgment to lead this nation.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  63. Jose Puerto Rico

    Well Jack she can win here in Puerto Rico also, and at the same time the Puerto Rico primary can put her over the top on the Popular Vote....So what!!!, what use is it if she does she can't say that she has the Popular Vote in the bag, because Puerto Rico doesn't vote in General Election in November.

    May 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  64. Rosalynd Florida

    The race to the finish is over. The next few Primaries will give Clinton a chance to bow out hopefully gracefully with a few wins.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  65. Brent Hall

    Nope; and by the way Jack, I love these "tests" where
    the answer has already been given!

    May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  66. J shultz Memphis, Tn

    Jack,
    There's no need for her to get back into the race. We have our Candidate. What she needs to do is support our candidate and help HEAL this party. A Campaign that cannot win the nomination for Hillary is pointless. It only becomes divisive and will not only generate false hopes....it generates deep wounds that may not heal by the General Election. Not sure what she or Bill doesn't get about this????

    May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  67. Daryl

    Jack she could win by a margin of 100 to 0 its over we are looking forward to november its time for hillary to unite the party

    May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  68. Diann

    Jack, I miss you on the morning show infact I miss the whole CNN gang from when you were on it. Just let the people have the right to vote without the media telling them how their votes are adding up, or what it sounds like their votes might mean. (the magic board that John uses should be kept behind lock and key)The privilege of voting is something that we look forward to. Counting anyone out before ALL have voted is indeed stupid. I feel that this race has been invigorating and alive, just what a race is about. It is NOT over until EVERY last person has cast their vote. I am so excited that finally people are coming out of their comfort zones and speaking to what has been a disasterous 8 years.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  69. TMill, CA

    Mrs. Clinton recently stated, "Clinton thanked supporters and reminded them that no Democrat has won the White House since 1916 without winning West Virginia."

    By her own words, here is where her major problem has always been, the past. This is not the past, and records are made to be broken, even when we are not personally ready to give up the summit or the climb towards it. If that is how long that record has held, then it IS now time for a change. Let other States in our United States have a shot at being the State or States that sets us on a new course. It is written and she of all people who claim 'faith' should know,
    "To everything there is a season, and a time and purpose under Heaven." Her season is coming to a close, whether it be Obama or McCain, this time it will not be the Clintons in the White House. We still need you in the village though. The Senate and the House need Democratic majorities you can help to build for the Party at large and for our 'United' States. Thank you.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  70. ObamaFan08

    Jack,

    Stop asking rhetorical questions. You already know the only way BIllary can win the election is either Obama fumbling the lead somehow or the Supers feeling the need to give it to her which is not happening in either way. Try to not confuse the bloggers any more with your media mind and ask something a little more viable.

    For example: Is Billary capable of bowing out gracefully or does she need the all out apporach that is turning many Americans away from her "False" sense of fight and tenacity? Its one thing to have fight and the will but to constantly try to stranglehold the vote only shows what era of politics she represents.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  71. Jorge, California

    Jack take a look at this statements form WV voters and answer your question!
    Like most people in Mingo County, West Virginia, Leonard Simpson is a lifelong Democrat. But given a choice between Barack Obama and John McCain in November, the 67-year-old retired coalminer would vote Republican.
    “I heard that Obama is a Muslim and his wife’s an atheist,” said Mr Simpson, drawing on a cigarette outside the fire station in Williamson, a coalmining town of 3,400 people surrounded by lush wooded hillsides.
    Josh Fry, a 24-year-old ambulance driver from Williamson, insisted he was not racist but said he would feel more comfortable with Mr McCain, the 71-year-old Vietnam war hero, in the White House. “I want someone who is a full-blooded American as president,” he said.

    The Financial Times Limited 2008!!!

    May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  72. BAROCKSTAR OBAMA SUPPORTER

    let's stop with the empty speculations about whether she can make a comeback after w. va and kentucky. for the clintons, this race is over. let her start preparing for a run in 2012.

    let's begin our speculations on who obama will select as his running mate. i will have to review the constitution to see if gore is eligible - if at all interested. i'd like to see obama/gore '08. a refreshing washington outsider and an environmentalist.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  73. Amanda OKC

    In or out is really irrelevant at this point. I have lost some respect for Hillary, since at every set back she attempts to change the rules to favor her. I expected her to fight hard, but not to abandon any ethics in the process. For anyone who wants the popular vote to count above the delegate count, call your senators and beg them to ammend this electoral college nonsence!

    May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  74. Kate1149

    No, I don't think this will make any difference in the eyes of most superdelgates. Pundits always say "follow the money" – if people support you they will donate to your campaign – if not, you are $20 million in debt. Her money issues are also one of the main reasons she should not be president – if she can't run her own campaign in the black what will she do to the County?

    May 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  75. Kathy in Florida

    No, she is out of the race. After watching her campaign, she is for herself. She actually scares me now, she will say and do anything to win this campaign. I can not even see her getting the VP nod, lord help us if Bill Clinton has anything to do with the White House.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  76. Arnold,WV

    Jack,She will make a big deal abuot her blowout victory in WV.She is even talking that she is in striking distance of the popular vote.It depends on whose math you are looking at.Some counts have her down 850,000 votes.She wants to count Fla,Mich and not the caucus'.She will be flying high for 1 week,then when she loses Oregon,Montana and South Dakota WV's memory will be short lived.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  77. Dallas

    Jack, She knows she will win both West Virginia and Kentucky and I believe she will quit after these 2 primaries just so she can feel like she went out on top. This whole thing is just a huge Ego trip for her.

    Dallas
    Canada

    May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  78. Dee Atlanta

    How??? This is the misguided, delusional thinking of people who don't want to see the writing on the wall. Hillary has lost this nomination!! Let her have her graceful exit but don't get confused, it's over! I'm sure her and her campaign will continue to scream from the mountain tops that Barack can't get those "hard working white voters" but how about her trying to get the "hard working black voters". Stop the devisive campaigning Hillary and start trying to unite this country!!

    May 12, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  79. Linda Iowa

    I agree with the earlier post. The fix was in after the last convention. If the media had done their job this would be a far different primary. Maybe even Edwards would still be in. But you had your love affair with Barack and now we will all pay

    May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  80. Dave From NY

    Jack:

    The Obama train has left the North Carolina station and is on it's way. West Virginia and Kentucky are just local stops on it's scheduled route. So it's not the desired Express that many feel would be best for the Democrats. It may not pick up many passengers or baggage, and it's not going to be derailed along the way. It may take a little longer, but it's still going to be in Denver on time!

    May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  81. Les Naperville

    Jack, if she won 68% of the vote in the remaining states and 69% of the overal superdelegates she would win by 2 delegates. If the woman in the pantsuit isn't singing it's because she has laryngitis!

    May 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  82. John in Los Angeles

    I think that race is the main issue that Obama is trailing so badly in W. Viriginia and KY. Sadly, this is the non-direct statements that HRC is trying to echo and is happy to get. Hillary will win big in those states, but I could never vote for someone who thinks that winning because of being white and the bigoted statements she made to USA Today is acceptable.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  83. Michael

    First of all, to correct a previous comment: Montana, South Dakota and Puerto Rico are NOT WINNER TAKE ALL! The delegates in their respective primaries are allocated proportionally.

    Second, Jack, to respond to your question: If she wins by more than 20 points, it will extend the life of her candidacy for at least another week. If she does the same in KY, then she'll stay through June 3.

    However, after May 20, it's very likely we'll see a huge number of Super Delegates step over to Obama's camp, as this will be the likely point where Obama will have reached the majority of Pledged Delegates (excluding FL and MI). For that matter, he'll likely get the majority of pledged delegates after June 3, even with the results of FL and MI counted – so, Hillary's date of withdrawal will be either May 21 or June 4.

    Michael
    Colorado

    May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  84. Dina - Philadelphia, PA

    No this didn't put Hillary back into the race. Wasn't it Hillary herself that said, "it's the big states that count"? The very, very, small state of WV doesn't mean anything. To back up this point, there are only 28 delegates up for grabs. Isn't that like Guam? This race is over for Hillary. This being said, I still understand why she is continuing to go to the end. If I were in her place, I would go to the end of every contest. She has put in a lot of time and money, and with about 3 weeks left until the end, she should stay. There is just one thing to her finishing this, she better not destroy our chances of winning in November with her foolishness!

    May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  85. Daisy

    No it won't matter!! The only person who thinks it does must be Hillary. It is time for her to bow out and let the party start uniting. She is not helping herself staying in. It only makes her look like a little kid pouting to get her way!! She needs to act like a woman. I use to respect her but as long as she continues acting like a baby the less respect I have for her.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  86. kelley from baltimore

    Jack, im worried that she is truly delusional........ she needs to leave! and give this party some time to heal !

    May 12, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  87. Shelley, SLC UT

    BACK IN THE RACE??? In her mind, she's never left and she's actually leading!

    But in the land of reality?? No. WV & KY would be the perfect opportunity for her to leave on a high note.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm |
  88. George PA

    This race is over and has been for some time now. If not for the need to fill hours and hours of cable news programmig, sell magazines and online advertising, no one would even be talking about it anymore. The media is simply dragging out the primary race as far as possible to avoid a let down in ad revenue over the summer as we wait for the conventions.

    Im thoroughly disgusted with this entire process. Ive been a lifetime Rebublican and was on the verge of switching parties until this election revealed the remarkably UN-democratic primary election process. Super Delagate? Im fine with delagates that are compelled to vote the way of their district, but somone with no elected position who can "Do whats best for the Party"? umm Ive heard that before... in the USSR............

    As for Hillary, we would have though it absurd and ridiculous if the New England Patriots had come out at half time of the SuperBowl and tried to say "We were stronger in the regular season, have more white fans, and can win against Philadelphia, Miami, and Clevland so we really should be the Champions." I cant believe she has not been mocked and laughed out of the race for even thinking about it. Redefining how you can win after the race starts is the ultimate reflection of a persons character. I wont even go into the Michigan/Florida fiasco.

    If I didnt know better Id think Saturday Night Live was her campaign manager. Even they cant make this stuff up.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:41 pm |
  89. Carolyn in Las Vegas

    West Virginia is a small state. Who cares if she wins by a big margin? Obama has had margins just as big in previous primaries. The only persons who think this will put her back in the race are Hillary and her diehard supporters.

    Enough of the silly questions, already.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm |
  90. Adam, NYC

    Obama's lead is virtually insurmountable. We cannot change the rules for the candidate we like, there is a system in place.

    To those who say they will vote McCain if the nominee is not Hillary, would you really reverse your stance on all the issues out of hurt? If you are voting that heavily due to the person and not the issues you may need to reevaluate your voting methods.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm |
  91. Ceee, Kansas

    There's no way Clinton can overtake Obama in delegates which is the official metric for victory. Hillary's decision to continue this fruitless process is a denial of reality. My view of the lady has progressed from respect for an valiant opponent,
    to irritation that she might hurt the eventual Democratic candidate,
    to pity for her pathetic attempts to spin the undeniable Obama nomination.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm |
  92. Connor

    Seriously people, W. Virginia only has a little over 20 delegates. Barack is leading her by over 100! Now, he leads in the super-delegates. People say she's smart and will be the better nominee. According to who? Her? It seems to me that shes losing in all of the categories: popular vote, delegate count, states won, and now super-delegates! It sounds like the rest of the country thinks that Barack is the better nominee. And if she was really that smart, she would have dropped out of the race after the Indiana and N. Carolina primaries. She is just ruining her political career. Maybe if the media stopped paying so much attention to her, this wouldn't even be an issue.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:42 pm |
  93. Paul from SC

    I hope not. I waited patiently for the Clintons to go away in 2000 and now I have to wait again. Hillary and Bill. Please go away now. It's over.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:43 pm |
  94. Ryan, Delaware

    Hilary doesn't have a chance Jack – the Media has already declared Obama the victor. I can only conclude that this is a republican conspiracy and the media is involved. There is no way Obama wins the Presidential Election.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm |
  95. jim kanous ny

    The "Clinton's" will stay in the race until the bitter end... looking for any opportunity... to get the nomination at all cost... Winning in WV and Kentucky will buy her time and headlines... it will feed the American thirst for drama and the Clinton hunger for power... but will end up having little to do with who actually becomes the next president.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:44 pm |
  96. Bob in Charlotte, NC

    Jack,

    Are you serious? Had some trouble coming up with three questions today? If Clinton won by 99% she is done and the only one that doesn't realize it is her and her hard working, uneducated white base (of which there is a great majority in West Virginia). I live for the day when we can finally tell her to STFU.

    A middle aged white guy (apparently my unfinished college education gave me just enough knowledge and wisdom to see through her lies and deceit)

    May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm |
  97. Monica from Florida

    It doesn't matter. Obama is the nomineee, but it will not keep the MSM from going big with their primary coverage. There will be that big delegate map with John on it telling us how it is impossible for Hillary to catch Obama. There will be "the best political team" on tv speculating about what both camps will do next. There will be Obama supports being realistic and Hillary supports trying to spin her victory as some type of comback. And in the end nothing would have changed. What a waste of time, energy, and money. Oh, I'm sorry...the MSM will make money...isn't that the point!

    May 12, 2008 at 3:45 pm |
  98. Marian, Burke Va

    Everyone is saying that Hillary she is fighter, where she was when she was loosing 12 state

    Thanks

    May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm |
  99. Tony - Brownsville Texas

    Why would a democrat vote republican in such an important race? To be honest I don't like Hillary but if the tables were turn I'd vote for her over McCain in a heartbeat so lets stop being SELFISH and stop finding excuses. We all know Obama is better than McCain.

    Dems 08

    May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm |
  100. Lori Iowa

    Jack

    She has never been out of the race...all of you want her out of the race, not one day has she considered her out....She is the only presidential candidate that is going to be able to go into the white house and fix the massive economic problems that we are experiencing right now...I will not trust another to get things done NOW....I just came fromt he mall....the parking lots are empty, the stores are empty, the restaurants are empty and gas goes up daily....there is going to be no businessess left and no one with homes if someone does not fix the economy yesterday.....I cannot allow a candidate with absolutely ZERO Experience to ruin our country....I was appalled 4 years ago when our country re elected a complete idiot.....and I am not going to stand idly by while they do that again because he is the popular speaker of the day....It will not work and I have to fight tooth and nail to support the one and only candidate and she will win the presidency in November...Our country needs her. No other choice.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:46 pm |
  101. Annette, NC

    I don't think that W. Virgina and Kentucky's primaries will make a big difference. She should take the defeat card and leave gracefully. The history books will state how she was a fighter, and how she gracefully step down to help the demcratic party unite. It is time to unify this party so that we will be successful against McCain in the fall. There is noway possible for her to turn this around. I don't care what kind of tactics she use. It will not work. Note to superdelegates it is time to unify. Obama is our nominee and it's time to focus our attention on helping him to get ready for November.

    Annette
    North Carolina

    May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  102. Ty

    The race is over and she lost. No matter what she says are does from here on she is done and in more ways than one. If the Republicans win in the fall they have HRC to thank. After all, she polarized the factions she leads in so strongly that many would at this point be ready to vote for the Republicans to spite Obama. This is were many of the concerns healing the party comes from. Its time to question HRC loyalty to the Democrat party at this phase of the game.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  103. Eronmonsele in NY

    Jack, I think every human being with common sense knows that Hillary is out of the race. The only race she can get back in is the one being played by the media. The American people have spoken and their decision is Barack Obama.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  104. mitch martin arkansaw

    hillary who?

    May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  105. judy,NC

    The question is who will be surprised if Clinton wins in WV tomorrow. come on WV iks full of white voters whoe do no and wil or would not vote for a black person anyway. We're not surprised. This isnt news.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  106. Jeremy in CO

    The only people who'll make the assertion that a WV win puts her back in it will be the Clinton family. Winning states that we'll lose to the Republicans in November isn't reason to claim overall electibility.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  107. Isabella

    Everyone knows that it will take a mirable for Hillary to pass Barack's numbers. What I don't understand is why these so called superdelegates can't make up their minds. Why are they allowing the Clintons to do what they want? We all know that neither Barack nor Hillary will attain the 2,025 needed delegates, it will take the supers to decide. Why not decide now and let our ears rest from the Clintons noise? Are American people not tired of hearing these negative people, who think America owes them something? It is time for these supers to stand up and be the men and women they ought to be. Barack is fighting to unite Americans not divide them as the Clintons are clearly doing.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  108. Radiance

    If Hillary were to good guy I know Obama is, I would vote for her. As far as the general election goes I still believe good triumphs over evil. Hillary supporter who believe Obama can't will are cynics who've lost hope or never had it. But come November 5, 2008 you will believe.

    May 12, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  109. Patricia

    Sometimes a Fighter is mistaken for a persons Stubborness.
    Both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama had equal opportunities to win. Senator Clinton had come in with 20 yrs of Name recognition and infra-sturcture. What did Senator Obama have? The ground rules were also laid down before the start.The citizens have heared both sides, and i think , the people want change. Why didnt Senator clinton win all the states, delegates etc.. If she had won, this situation wouldnt occur.Senator Clinton knows very well that Senator Obama will win this nomination as well as the Presidential election,she thinks this is the best chance ever for her change to get the Presidency .. thats why she in it, its nothing else.. and certainly not because shes the stronger canditate, If she was .. she would have had more delegates, states etc as of now.. NO Excuses...

    May 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  110. Brad - CA

    The media will debate if it does or not. The supporters of Hillary will say it does and the Obama supporters will say it doesn't. The line has been drawn in the sand a long time ago. Hillarys comments about white working class Americans isn't helping and furthers their divisive campaign style.

    Again, the superdelagets will not be swayed by the win. The numbers don't add up and the Superdelegates are not going to look at one or two primary victories as the big game changer. We are too far along now.

    May 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  111. Y in Georgia

    No matter how well she does, the race is over. West Virginia is just having a difficult time adjusting to change. The change America is experiencing is like upgrading from typewriters to computers. Hillary's candidacy does not represent the future, it represents the past, and there is great danger is returning to the old ways of doing things. We need to upgrade in order to compete and work with the rest of the World. We can just thank God that West Virginia only has 28 delegates.

    May 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  112. Bob

    Jack, until Obama wins the requisite number of delegates, Hillary is still in the race! Obama is trying to win with only the votes of 48 states - rules allow for revotes - although recently he said there were 57, so I'm beginning to think Hillary's chances under that scenario are much improved. Let's go to all 57 states before the election is called.

    Sonoma, CA

    May 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  113. SirGeshko

    How the mighty have fallen!
    The "Inevitable" candidate is now scrabbling at every opportunity to stay in the race. Despite starting out with ridiculous amounts of cash, political support, and the same last name as one of the more popular presidents in recent history, her campaign has been plagued by incompetence, financial irresponsibility, and destructive infighting. Clinton's people underestimated Obama's message and appeal, and as a result was completely unprepared for the extended campaign.
    During Obama's February sweep, Clinton was busy trying to shift gears to that of victim and underdog. She even found a way to turn Obama's uprecedented fundraising capabilities into a negative, by painting her opponent as the "Money Candidate", regardless of the fact that half of his money comes from small donors, and she loaned $11.4 million of her personal fortune to continue running. That's more than most Americans can even truly comprehend, but the "hard-working Americans" can somehow look past her fortune and embrace her as a champion of the poor and working class.
    Did she turn down a high-paying job as a corporate lawyer to work helping disadvantaged people get a fair shake? Has she ever done something for the 'little guy' without simultanously advancing her career?
    If she has, I haven't seen it yet.

    May 12, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  114. Tman

    Hillary.......Who?

    May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm |
  115. Dave in Leesburg, Va

    You don't think the Democratic party is behind keeping Hillary in the race to a degree, do you? After all, what would it look like for Obama if Hillary had dropped out last week and still carried West Virginia and Kentuck by 25 plus points. That would of been too embarrassing and too tough to defend. Obama is the wrong choice. I'm moving to Johnny Mac in 08.

    May 12, 2008 at 4:03 pm |