Bill Clinton: older voters too savvy to fall for Obama
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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Bill Clinton says older voters are supporting his wife because they're too smart to be fooled by Barack Obama's rhetoric.
The Boston Globe reports the former president also took issue with Obama's statement that many of the problems the U.S. faces were around long before President Bush took office.
Clinton told voters in Pennsylvania: "I think there is a big reason there's an age difference in a lot of these polls. Because once you've reached a certain age, you won't sit there and listen to somebody tell you there's really no difference between what happened in the Bush years and the Clinton years; that there's not much difference in how small-town Pennsylvania fared when I was president, and in this decade."
See, it's really not about Hillary… it's about Bill's legacy.
On another note, a new poll out might spell trouble for Hillary among voters of all ages. A Washington Post/ABC News poll shows only 39% of Americans think Hillary Clinton is "honest and trustworthy." 58% say she's not. Barack Obama leads Clinton by 23 points when it comes to which one voters think is more honest.
Apparently Clinton's fairy tale about sniper fire in Bosnia, and her husband's defense of her claims, didn't help much... especially when voters combine it with scandals that occurred while she was first lady, including the firings in the White House travel office and her financial dealings which resulted in widespread doubts about her trustworthiness.
Here’s my question to you: Bill Clinton says older voters are too savvy to fall for Barack Obama. Do you agree?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Richard writes:
Older voters like me (I'm 65) remember too well the scandals of the Clinton years and his impeachment. Please just go away, Bill, and let us - the young and old alike - elect Sen. Obama and get on with dealing with the real problems of today.
Anthony from Wildwood Crest, New Jersey writes:
Bill is absolutely correct! These young kids, easily led, vulnerable, and naive individuals are falling for his rhetoric. Let's remind people that 8 years ago, some of the same made George Bush out to be a 'Compassionate Conservative' and second coming of Reagan. How did that turn out?
Terry from Virginia writes:
Bill Clinton has referred to his wife's age (60) in a negative manner on more than one occasion. Now he's telling us older voters that if we support Obama we're not savvy. Why am I not surprised that an aging frat boy who digs younger chicks would make some of the dumbest remarks I've ever heard made during this campaign? Maybe he's just bitter.
Rhea writes:
Bill, please go back to New York. You are beginning to sound as if you don't know which team you are supposed to be playing for. Why, why dear god, are you giving the Obama team so much ammunition? Why, why are you sabotaging your wife's campaign? Could it be that you don't want to be "first lady"?
Tracy from California writes:
In desperate times, people want to hear what they want to hear. Obama's rhetoric has a feel good message. I am a middle aged, highly -educated voter who wants solutions and a clear direction. Obama's soundbites may be inspiring but his message won't get oil under $114 a barrel or make the world a safer place.
Martha from Los Angeles writes:
Depends what the meaning of "older" is. I'm an older voter, by Clinton's standards for his wife (60 and gets tired by 11 at night). I'm also a clear convert to Obama and am now wildly enthusiastic for him.
Yvonne from Atlanta writes:
The savvy older voters are voting for Obama. The stupid older voters are not.
@jackcafferty on Twitter
Hi Jack – Au contraire – I think older voters are too savvy to vote for Billary!!!!!
Jack, must be a slow day for you. Bill Clinton is old news. Try to stay with current events.
On the other hand, Hillary is a fabulous woman who happens to be married to an ex-president. Try to light a candle instead of cursing the darkness.
Young people are also very smart and savy. Not all are star struck by a phoney Jr. Senator.
Depends what the meaning of "older" is. I'm an older voter, by Clinton's standards for his wife (60 and gets tired by 11 at night). I'm also a clear convert to Obama and am now wildly enthusiastic for him.
That's just more Clinton nonsense. I'm an older voter – 71 – and I, my wife and most of our Southern Oregon peers will be voting for Obama in the May 20th primary and the general election. It's time for some fresh air and fresh ideas in Washington. And it's time for Bill Clinton to come to grips with the fact that he and his wife will not be moving back into the White House.
Gary
Jacksonville, Oregon
As an older voter who supports Obama, I'm insulted by the former president's remarks. Just for the record, I'm also female and white which I suppose makes me even less savvy. Senator Clinton's best asset and worse liability is her husband. I think it's time for them to call it a day and go home.
As an 'older' voter, I refuse to fall for a candidate whose resume is even thinner than George Bush's and who has been pushed on us for over a year, AND who is certain to be beaten severely by McCain.
As an older voter I can well remember the horrific losses that McGovern, Mondale and Dukakis suffered, and do not wish to repeat them with a similarly flawed nominee. It's so obvious that it amazes me that more voters don't get it.
Bill Clinton better hope older voters don't remember him and aren't too savy too fall for another four years of a Clinton in the White House.
Well Jack your an "older voter" so that doesnt seem to ring true but I think older voters with a head on their shoulders understand what he means.
I'm an older voter too savvy to care what Bill Clinton says. Although I supported him, and to some extent now, his wife, I think if he had kept his mouth shut Hillary would have the nomination locked up. But I am thrilled to see so many young people registering and enthused by Obama. Bill's pandering to the older voters seems like last ditch desperation.
Well, Jack, I'm an older guy (57) who fell for Bill's candidacy twice, and in all fairness, at the time, it was much better (excluding bluedress-gate) than Bush One.
I also fell for Hillary's campaign in January of this year... But things have changed. I became savvy and started reseaching the issues and candidates more. I now support Senator Obama.
Absolutely, older voters know better, and that means those older than
18. We don't fall for the revival meeting hoopla, or the empty rhetoric,
coming from an empty suit. We know quality – and he ain't it!
As an older voter myself,I am finding obama to be too slick by half. He makes inappropriate comments about small-town white people and then refuses to give a real apology. I do not listen to TV preachers,infomercial con artists or used car salesmen. I am beginning to see that obama uses the same techniques as they do. I want someone who speaks the plain truth and doesn't dress his speech up in smoke and mirrors.
I dunno, Jack. I'm 62,my wife's age I won't discuss(in case you put this on the air); and we're both for Senator Obama. I figure I'm as savvy as the next senior. But I'm tired of the cynicism of the political scene as it has been, and think it's time for a cool change.
Plus, as a curmudgeon, I figure Barack can't do any worse than the trash we've had for the past 20 years or so.
I think the Clinton's are overlooking the fact that not everyone prospered in the 90s. It was a great time to be in computers, till those jobs were outsourced. Better than Bush? Definitely, but that isn't something to brag over.
As a 57-year-old white woman, I'm too savvy to fall for the same-o politics of the Clintons. I've been waiting most of my adult life for a candidate like Obama who is thoughtful and analytical and who doesn't insult my intelligence.
NO, I do not agree. I am a 66 year old white male and support Sen. Obama. I am too savvy to support Sen Clinton or Sen Mc Cain.. Need I say more?
In desperate times people want to hear what they want to hear.....Obama's rhetoric has a feel good message. I am a middle age, highly educated voter who wants solutions and a clear direction. Obama's soundbites may be insipiring but his message won't get oil under 114 a barrel or make the world a safer place.
I agree 100%.
Older voters can easily look past the glitz, glamor, and rock star persona. They see a junior senator plagued with personal problems ( reverend Wright, how he acquired his Chicago home, rural folks are "bitter", etc.). Older voters will see the issues and not the fame whirlwind that Obama has cloaked himself with.
Dear Jack, I am a 55 year old white male, county govt. worker and Viet Nam era Army vet. I was a Hillary supporter and even voted for her in the CA primary. Now I am for O'bama. Why? Because his message is convincing; He always speaks in a civil tone; He is also atypical from the Wash. D.C. crowd; But mostly because his speach on race relations after the Pastor Wright issue was the most compelling political oratroy I have heard since MLK, JFK, and RFK were alive. It truly won me over.
Jack,
No I don't agree I mean yes I do agree I mean, sniper fire or no sniper fire, NAFTA , no not NAFTA. 60 year olds are tired at 11:00 but we are ready on day one!
I think the real truth is that most of the elders are women who really wanted a woman president. It is just too bad it was this woman at this time.
Bill Clinton is the Fool today and i was the fool who gave him a vote twice in 1992 and 1996. I guess i was "too young" to know better. Don't worry Bill i won't be fooled by another Clinton...Not this time !!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Clinton's a jerk. He purposely framed this question. He's trying to make people think that if you support, or think about supporting Senator Obama, you're soemhow being conned.
Bill Clinton is the last man on earth who should talk about a con job.
After the stunts he and Senator Clinton have pulled in this election, if Barack Obama does not win the nomination, I'll hold my nose and vote for Senator McCain.
Lawrence
Washington, DC
I will turn sixty in August. I know that I will have to get to bed early–can't stay up until 11:00 in case I forget and tell people that I had to dodge sniper fire on the way to the local supermarket. I pray to God that I don't lose all my senses by November and vote for Hillary!
And yet another backhand slap at Hillary. Could you be any more biased, Jack? Just endorse Obama and be done.
Hi Jack
I am 79 years old, as are my friends, and we all like Obama. It is ridiculous to think that savvy people will vote for Hillary. We are still very much savvy. The ones with deteriorated minds are voting for Hillary. Bill has to worry more about his wife, since he said that she is 60, and her mind is foggy about Bosnia.
DJ
Ojai, California
Jack, do you recall a time when the young folks ever listened to the old folks? I don't. One usually learns by the experiences one endures. Younger folks have less lifetime experience and hence are more likely to take careless chances for the sake of "change" ,e.g Obama. Older folks value experience, particularly when it directly affects their health and their pocketbook. Hillary's health care plan is superior from both an economic and humanitarian perspective. That's why I'm for Hillary.
Jarrett
Weston, FL
Bill is absolutely correct! These young kids, easily led, vulnerable, and naive individuals are falling for his rhetoric. Let's remind people that 8 years ago, some of the same made George Bush out to be a 'Compassionate Conservative' and second coming of Reagan. How did that turn out? Anyone who says they will change the system before they know the system is a fool. Obama is writing dream checks out to everyone, however, the account is overdrawn! America is gullible, naive, and stupid AGAIN if they fall for Obama's promises.
Wildwood Crest, NJ
I think Bill's mistaking "savvy" with "modern". While many older voters were on the frontlines in the wars against sexism and racism and homophobia, etc., those ancient conflicts have largely been concluded in America, and those oldsters won. Now, however, the nation's problems transcend, or more accurately, are different, from the old ones, and in these Obama offers hope and the possibility of something new. For instance, just having a part-black president with an Arabic middle name will radically change the power dynamics in the Middle East, helping the war on terror. By the way, I'm an oldster myself....
I'm 55, which I guess makes me "older." I'm also a former (and long-time) Republican who is a newly-registered Democrat in PA. I plan to vote for Barack Obama in next week's PA primary. Have I "fallen" for Obama? You bet. I'm a sucker for integrity, honesty, plain truth, non-divisive politics, and inspirational leadership.
So, sorry Bill Clinton. You're dead wrong. This older, thinking voter plans to send you and your wife a clear message. Go home!
I can't figure out who he's trying to alienate more here, the young whippersnappers who are being mesmerized by a Svengali or the geezers who at 11 PM forget they weren't really enduring sniper fire.
Where are my pills?
Jack!
I am savvy and my vote's going to OBAMA...he will be an excellent president for our country. American should be proud of Barrack ! I am sick and tired of Hill/Bill bashing OBAMA.
Today, in American... African American males need role models like Barrack Obama. We have an over-representation of African American males all in the wrong categories- for example, prison and special education. It's sad that most African Americans are judged by the color of their skin.
Constance Woodard
Transplanted Texas Voter
No Jack its not about being savvy. It more like the older generation always fall back on their confort levels when times are tough.
I can't believe Bill is trying to act as if NAFTA didn't take place until he left office. He and Hillary really think that they put a lot of money in the pockets of the average person in small-town america.
What they will not admit to is a lot of businesses left the areas during that time as well as the past eight years. The only people that made any money were people like Bob Johnson their big supporters.
well both my wife and I are retired "Lou Dobbs" style independent voters and we support Obama because we think he is the only one of the remaining three candidates that will bring REAL CHANGE to Washington.
so once again, Bill "The Mouth from the South" Clinton is all wet. does this guy EVER say ANYTHING helpful to his wife's campaigne?
Jack,
While there may be some older voters who don't trust Obama, I doubt they trust Hillary either. She flat-out lied about landing in Bosnia under sniper fire, and we all know that Bill isn't the most honest person, having lied to a Grand Jury about his affair while President. The younger, not the older voters, are the ones who are going to decide this election, and they clearly seem to be Obama supporters. There has been a Bush or a Clinton as President or Vice-President for the last eighteen years. It's time to end the dynasty.
Well let's see, I'm older (55), white, a woman, poor (under $40,000) from a small western pennsylvania town, and oh yeah, i'm also Catholic (The standard Clinton demographic) and I've TOTALLY FALLEN FOR BARAK! What I haven't fallen for is believing that another Clinton presidency is good for me or for the country.
it's not ok to say that middle class, blue-collar workers are bitter, but it's ok to say that young people aren't smart enough to know who's best for the presidency. by the way, he's also insulting any older voters who are going with Obama... nice one, bubba!
Of course not! I am one older voter who has no intention of voting for a third term of the Clinton team.
His words were all about his anger at anyone daring to criticize his presidency, even if only peripherally He needs to do something about that ego if he wants to help his wife. Although I believe it is a little too late for that.
Wendy
San Rafael, CA
Probably you wont post my message, like the last 10 that didnt get posted. But here is my response anyway:
I remember the Clinton years, I remember very low unemployment, I remember $1.29 gasoline, I remember a great Economy, I remember No War, I remember a Budget Surplus.
I remember CNN, I remember.
Get a life Jack.
Arilo
Younger voters are too savvy to fall for Hillary. Even little babies can see right through Hillary.
No. Bill is getting desperate, Jack. If Obama had been the apparent front-runner in either of the previous elections, Bill would have been out there singing his praises.
Older voters might be more comfortable with Clinton but it may have more to do with the famiiarity of the Clinton name. Hillary's age is another plus with this demographic.
Older women in particular have invested much in the women's movement and seeing a woman in the Oval office has a personal significance for them.
But savvy? Get real!
Is he under the impression that the younger voters are only 16 instead of 25 to 45?
Jack,
Older voters are very savvy and wise in most things. Unfortunately I find in my own conversations with older voters that they are supporting Mrs. Clinton based on a loyalty to her husband. In much of the soundbites that the media allows us to hear (yes that is a slight against the poor media coverage), I hear many older voters talking about the Clinton years and Sen. Clintons struggles, well sorry those days are past and I don't think America would be well served by voting on the past seeing that the world is different and America needs to do things differently to compete.
I loved the Clintons and have a great respect for the achievements and lofty goals of that administration, but we need to let go and let Obama show a new positive direction America can go in. Thank for all you do Jack.
Bill Clinton wishes he was right. Once again, he's not. He won't be getting a third term in the White House. I trust older folks to spend the time to get to know Obama. When they do, they will support him. Voters want the Bush-Clinton-Bush years of drama and division to end.
I'm afraid the former president is wrong. As a younger voter who experienced the Clinton years and the Bush years, I am "smart" enough to know the difference between the two, and I am making the informed choice not to repeat either.
I wonder about an America who didn't see what an IDIOT George Bush is when he was absolutely stomped in his first debate with Al Gore and his first debate with John Kerry. Both of them made him look like a boy amongst men. Didn't help, he won anyway. The amount of voters who are falling for Hillary's pandering is astounding. With all the talk about the Pope coming to America I wouldn't be surprised if she came out with something like "After shooting guns with my uncle in Penn. we would brave the sniper fire just to get to 5o'clock mass.
Hey Jack,
I don't think older voters are too savvy for Obama, I just think that they can't relate to him. They can connect more with Clinton, who is closer to their age.
I think we'll all agree that voters tend to naturally gravitate to the candidate with whom they have the most in common, and even though it may be unfortunate for America, I think older individuals connect more with Hillary Clinton.
Kel from Auburn, AL
I'm an older voter, Jack, and must not be very savvy. Obama gives me hope that it won't be politics as usual under his presidency. Clinton doesn't do that. Honestly, though, I'll be voting for the Democrat come November, either way, because of what Bush did to my country.
At the age of 54, I guess I'm too young to be savvy enough to get President Clinton's point. But I do see how the Clinton's negatives continue to rise as they do things like putting campaign staffers from NJ in their TV ads attempting to portray the attitudes of people from rural PA.
One would think that by now the Clintons would have the savvy not to keep shoothing themselves in the foot.
I do not know if at 46 years of age I would say I was an older voter but I sure don't plan to vote for Hillary or McCain. That leaves Obama. I would rather try a guy I know a little about than two I know way too much about.
I am almost 66 years old, and I am supporting Obama. He is intelligent and pragmatic; two traits I find absolutely crucial in my president. His calmness under fire reminds me of the traits I found important when I was fighting a war in Vietnam.
No and I'm the same age as the Clintons and happen to be an American who is also white as well or as my people would call me; American Indian of the Apache nation. I saw through her long before the primaries started and knew she nor her husband could not be trusted. It still sounds like Bill is running for his old job which he was impeached from once.
Let's see... I'm 50 something.... My 1st choice was John Edwards & I might go ahead & write his name in on my ballot for November.... But, if Sen. Obama says the things I need to hear during the rest of his campaign & if he doesn't get himself caught up in "win at all cost" silliness I can be talked into supporting him come November. I won't vote for John McBush.
Jack,
As a high school teacher, I ascribe to the age old belief that young people have built in "crap detectors". While they might be quicker to get caught up in movements, they also know authenticity when they see it and it's very attractive.
Boise
Could be Jack. But what you can't forget is that many of those older voters grew up in a very different era, and as such had a very different experience with African Americans than the current generation. It is much easier for young voters today to accept a African American candidate. Many of the tensions and social issues that existed half a century ago have either died down or no longer exists. Older voters cynicism to Obama's candidacy is as real as Rev. Wrights skeptism from the stump. It's a feeling based on past experiences that in many cases, no longer apply.
I am an old voter and feel qualified to say that older voters are not too savvy. They are less inclined to support change simpty as an expression of identity like some younger voters.
Those older savvy voters have had more time to be made bitter and cling to their guns and religion. They are too savvy to fall for a pandering candidate who suddenly has tales of big game hunting, evangelical feelings, and want's to have a beer and a shot of Crown Royal with you. Bill Clinton is to savvy for his own damn good.
Jack: I am 67 and completely agree with Bill Clinton on this one. I was much better off under the Clinton years than the Bush years. I do not like any of the current candidates however. I am from Illinois and voted for Obama when he ran for Senator hoping for the best, but have been disappointed. He does not vote on much of anything and really has no track record in either the Illinois legislature or as a U.S. Senator to know what he stands for and now we see all the slight-of-hand issues that have come up. I just can not vote for him.
Jim
Hoffman Estates, IL
Bill Clinton has done two things with his comments:
1. Insulted all the young people who are involved in Politics and are the future of this country. This is consistent the the Clinton tactics like small states don't count, red states don't count, insulting Al Gore and John Kerry etc.
2. This also demonstrates the sheer arrogance of Clinton Campaign. They are so convinced that the only way someone can vote for Barack over Hillary is if they are stupid, inexperienced or being duped. I wish that they would wake up and see that Barack has won twice as many states, leads in pledged delegates and popular votes. Barack has run an excellent campaign, he has inspired us to work hard for him. He does not take money from special interests and lobbyists like Hillary.
3. Bill Clinton read my lips. I am voting for Barack because he a much better candidate than Hillary. I am not doing this because of my age, color, race or gender.
Hi Jack,
Has Bill Clinton completely lost it? Making a statement about problems being around a long time before Bush took office.....Does he remember who was the President before Bush? Has he become a Republican?
I happen to be in the same generation Bill and Hillary are and I can tell you that all the lies they have told have turned off all of my friends and we are solidly behind Obama.
Bill only has two options left: 1. Take a long vacation to the South Pole 2. Get treatment for his early onset Alzheimers.
Jack,
Actually, there has been a Bush or Clinton as President or Vice-President for the past twenty-eight years, not eighteen. My bad.
It seems to me, that older voters are not that savvy when they put Bush in office twice and look what happen. It seems to me they want the same old politics. It's time for the younger Generation to take over, these older voters voted Republican or Democrat and nothing is getting done and the younger generation are sick of it, thats why Obama is so appealing.
I don't think its a question of savvy or not...i wish someone could explain to me why older voters and blue collar workers feel such a connection with the Clinton's. They are by far the ones who I would consider eilitist.
I hate to blast our older generation but I think the issue becomes many of them are not technologically savvy so they rely upon word of mouth and tv ads. Clinton is a known name and she is white. they are still of the "black hating" generation no matter how they try to rise above that. and many of this age group are of the feminist generation as well. Bodes badly for a bi-racial black man. as my grandpa would say, "that colored man" can't possibly be president.
I hope to God that Barack is elected. Having Hillary would be a nightmare. I am of the 20 percent who will vote for McCain if Hillary somehow manages to buck the system and get nominated.
WOW is all I can say to this. Is he serious? I cannot believe Bubba said that. I think Obama is trying to provoke him on the stump. Bill is doing her more damage than ANY media outlet liberal or conservative.
HI Jack, Well I am from PA and 50 years of age I do not think the information Mr. Clinton is correct...I think this time around voters are intersted to vote on the issues rathen who is long enough in DC so. I am voting for Obama because I feel a new age is about to start and this country needs change. I am tired of old Politics and fact the Clintons think they are entile for the get the nomination.
By the way I do not understand who is run for persident isBill or Hilary?
Good question Jack. I'm voting for Obama, but then, I'm only 68....I'll ask my 70 year old cousin how she's voting and get back to you.
And they call O BAMA elitist? Wow!!!!!
I totally agree. You know what they say, Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Older Americans have been through this many times before- they know vague words and hollow promises are not good a basis for deciding who to vote for. They rather look to see what the candidate has done for them in the past and whether they kept their promirses. We know Hillary is good on her word; we have NO idea if Obama is and based on his NAFTA fiasco and now this "bitter" comment nonesense, it's becoming obvious that the Obama we see giving speeches sounds a lot different behind closed doors.
I think there are lots of people of all ages who are voting for Obama for the wrong reasons. Although it's not like Clinton doesn't have that going as well. If people voted based on issues, neither of them would have made it past New Hampshire.
How exactly does that make sense since Obama's poll numbers go up in direct proportion to the education level of the voters. What's frightening are the huge numbers of people who believe this stuff.
Jack, there is no doubt that Bill Clinton is wrong again. I am begining to believe that the old age dementia that according to him starts at 60 is begining to catch up with him. The truth is that the older you get, the more difficult it is to change your position, so the older people are supporting the person they know even if she has character flaws. With the younger ones who may not know the legacy of the Clintons, they are basing their judgement on trust and the Clintons have shown a tendency not to be always truthful. If he is willing to tout his legacy to Pennslvanians, he should be willing too to tout his indiscretions that ultimately cost Gore the 2000 elections and invariably ensured victory for Bush, and also that his cosy relationship with the Bushs' helped buy the president the legitimacy that we are suffering from . What Clinton is saying is no different from their antecedents of spining everything to their advantage even if the reasoning is a bit misleading or makes no sense. This tendency to confound people is perhaps responsible for the lack of trust in the Clintons that is represented in almost all the polls.
Yes, I do believe older voters are too savvy to fall for Obama's running word, "Change" without in-depth explanation of what the "change" entails. I find young people are not inquisitive or curious enough today. I began this election process a democrat, however, I was a blank slate regarding which democratic candidate I would support in the final analysis. Obama's choice of friends (Farrakhan, Wright and Ayers) told me what the man was about. His inability to reveal what "change" means to him...and impart that to us, is mind boggling. The bad press or lack of press coverage at all, drew my attention to Hillary Clinton. I've studied Hillary's plan for repairing our terribly damaged country, and I am proud to wholeheartedly support her as my President of this United States of America. I believe pundits and pollsters and the news media sorely misjudge the elderly's power at the polls. We, the elderly, have lived a long time and have seen politicians come and go; we, too, are smarter than we were at eighteen. When we ask questions, we want answers...and Obama's handlers are afraid to turn him loose to provide answers...if he has any. ...........a viewer in Great Falls, Virginia
So let me see if I understand this. It's o.k. for Bill to speak for older voters, but it's not o.k. for Barack to speak about rural Pennsylvania? Older voters are smart, and they remember the Clintons and their tricks. I am "bitterly" offended by Bill's remarks. Bill is out-of-touch with older voters.
Too savvy to fall for Obama...like he's some kind of con artist. Shame on you President Clinton for trying to drum up votes by scaring our seniors. I have a feeling many will be too smart to fall for your veiled accusations.
I hope they are too savvy not to fall for either one of those idiots.
Since I did not attend the occasion where he made the comment, and don't know what led up to it, I will assume it was accurate. Both candidates seem to have spouses who have "open mouth and insert foot" disease. Since Bill is a well known figure, whatever he says gets lots of press. He seems determined to undermine Hilliary's chances to win and has from the beginning. He was an embarrassment as a pres but was effective in spite of that. Michelle is just a novice at saying the wrong things but she is getting a good start. Don't know what causes her lapses but, if she gets in the White House, she will make good press for the media. By the way Jack, the question did not call for your to bring up Hilliary's "fairy tales" like she is the only candidate who has indulged in them. IE Obama was not conceived during the Selma March like he said and the Kennedy's couldn't have helped his father come to the country as their help for students stated a year after he came here. Fair is fair.
Jack, Didnt ex-president Clinton mention memory failing after the age of 60 the other day? I would guess that would be why older voters forget the impeachment, missing antiques, travelgate, the list could go on and on. Who needs all that again.
Hiram Rapids, Oh.
Jack
I'll be 69 in 2 weeks. I am a comfirmed Obama voter. Now it may be true older voters support Hillary. Maybe in several years when I am an older voter I will recall this time and think about how foolish I was as a youngster.
Curtis
Oxnard, CA
As an older voter (70) I am proud to be an Obama supporter. Maybe us older folks remember John Kennedy and the hope and optimism that we felt when he was President.
With the way things are going in the world today. I tend to think that the older generation is listening to the younger generation more and more, and one thing that makes it more evident to me is I see a collective group of older and younger generation people standing together protesting the war. I dont think there is any savvy ness there Bill
Mark
Valdosta GA
I think Bill has "misspoken" about older voters being too savvy to fall for Obama which implies that younger people are not. Chelsea is campaigning for her mother at colleges where the majority are young people who may not appreciate her father's comments.
Absolutely. I live in Dell Webb's sun City (10,000 homes) and everyone I talk with can't understand why the younger people can't see thru Obama's agenda. Jack, when you get a chance, add up the total electoral college votes that clinton has won, or will win (i.e. Penna; Ind.; W. Va) versus the total in Obama's column. I came up with Clinton 293 to 245 for Obama. Isn't this factor kind of important in considering who might be the strongest candidate in a general election? By the way....don't apologize to China. You were right when you called them "goons and thugs"
Donald
Huntley, Illinois
Jack,
What Bill is failing to recognize is that people are tired of the same old Washington crowd. 20 years is long enough for 2 families to hold the White House. I think that the older voters are mostly for Hillary not because they aren't fooled by "slick rhetoric", but because they are more comforatble with the politcians they know as opposed to those they don't. Of course this doesn't apply to all older voters–fortunately, some of the 'boomers' still retain some of the optimism that is so prevelant with Sen. Obamas campaign.
Hillary
West Virginia
Well, I am one of those "young voters," and I am insulted by the comments Bill Clinton made. I am not stupid, Mr. Clinton. Our generation knows the issues, because we are the ones that have to clean up the mess that has been left to us. We know the issues better than anyone. We aren't voting for Obama by an overwhelming majority because of empty rhetoric. We are voting for him because of the issues, his character, intelligence, class, and message. He inspires us, and there is nothing wrong with that. It is because the Clintons refuse to understand why we are voting the way we do that they are losing the "young" vote. Stop underestimating our intelligence.
Well, while I will admit I voted for Old Bill back in the days when I was young, I have now since grown up and support Obama. Guess hes wrong again..
Obama 08
Jack,
Bill try to sell the fairy tale that "old" people get tired by 11:00 PM and now he is trying to sell that they are less likely to vote for Sen. Obama. This guy should stop stereo typing people. He is really working against the interests of Sen. Clinton by such stupid comments.
Kris, CA
HECK NO. I am 86 and voted for him in the primary and hope to do so again in the general election. EJM – Granville, Ohio
Get a grip people. Stop being insulted by every statement anyone makes about anything. These people are politicians and they're on the campaign trail. I'm glad Obama inspires you all so much. I've listened to his speeches and don't find much to be inspired about because that's all Obama does is speak "empty rhetoric." Yes, he's a good speaker but I don't want just a good speaker for President. I want lower gas prices, better, affordable healthcare, a better economy that's not strangling me as it is now, a better environment and I don't hear anything inspiring on these subjects from Obama. Plus there's the fact that, as much as no one wants to be politically incorrect, he can't win against John McCain. So, Jack, bash the Clinton's all you want but I'll take Hillary and Bill any time!!! Go Hillary!!!
Jack, Is Bill talking about the same savvy voters who put Bush in office?, you know the ones who aren"t bitter about paying $4 for gas and appreciate the loss of more than 4,000 brave soldiers in Iraq?,the ones with foreclosed homes and no jobs? Thank the Lord I'm not savvy. I make $38,000 annually, so I guess that makes me an "elitist" whose for Obama. Janet in West Virginia
Jack,
I am going to try one more time to answer one of your questions. Every time I have tried before my comment is deleted.
If I am not mistaken, in that same article Bill also accused the young people of being "foolish"
I don't think that the reason older people are supporting Sen. Clinton, is because they are "more savvy" I think that because of their age it is extremely difficult for them to accept change, especially when you are looking at this monumental and historic change of accepting an African (half) American as the possible President of the U.S.A..
Hi Jack,
Here is disgrace former president, who not only lied too his wife, lied to the american people, lied to congress and was impeached this qualifies him to give advice.
Senator Clinton the story has not finish been yet it seem she carrying on the tradition...
Darryl,
Arlginton, TX
Jack: I could not disagree more. I think that age is not a factor in choosing the next president. I think that all American voters, both young and old possess the wisdom to discern that which is false; the second, to know that which is true. Hillary's negative campaign strategy has cause and effect for every American voter to preceive her that winning the nomination is not the most important thing: It is the only thing. I sort of feel sorry for Hillary because she has to win at everything, regardless of the cost.
Umm, is Clinton saying the young voters aren't as smart as older ones? And that we, the younger generation of voters just sit back and tolerate political lies?
At 24, I am offended by Clinton's comments. I know the difference between the truth and a lie. I can see a snake in the grass.
Perhaps us young voters agree with Obama. That doesn't mean we are inexperienced, less educated, or passive.
I agree with Sara, Minnesota. Stop underestimating our intelligence.
Jack,
So basically Bill is saying that younger voters are fools. Shame on Bill Clinton!
Signed: A 48 year young voter supporting Obama 100%
Leah DiMarco, Houston, Texas
Thanks, Bill, for basically calling me an idiot. That's the way to win my vote.
Obama '08
Jack,
Be careful Mr. President, you're insulting the intelligence of my entire generation. I didn't base my vote on the phrase "Yes We Can" or Obama's charisma. I am twenty years old, I know the issues, and I cannot wait to see President Obama be sworn into office.
Ellis,
Brown University
Jack,
It is so sad that you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find an anti-Hillary topic. By the way I am a young democrat who teaches school everday ,II am for Hillary. No it isn't just old folks for Hillary but I would guess if you were older and had lived through a lot in your times you would be very aware that "actions speak louder than words" Some of these young people have had everything given them on a silver platter and they think Obama is going to work magic an take all our problems away. If you are older,then you know better.I wonder if they know there is a congress, a huge deficit , and China waiting to be paid. They tell me Obama inspires them , well we need to look for inspiration from within because if he is president he isn't going to have time to inspire you every morning to get up and go to work.,,,There's a little more to it than that.
This is how dividing the Clinton campaign has become.
If Obama were to say that younger voters were too smart to fall for Clinton's like older Americans do, do you not think he'd be all over that?
I am over 50, white, and an oft-republican voting independent, and I will NOT vote for someone who parses the truth and divides the country in terms of age, gender and plays racial divisions like Bill has.
We desevere a president with dignity.
Have you seen the White Haired women's video for Barack.
Get serious Bill. Older voters are for Hillary for a variety of reasons including fear of change. Bill Clinton's questionable legacy has
been permanently reduced by his campaign tactics, lies and
attacks. He is reminding each of us what we did not like about him.
He cannot take the high road, doesn't even know where it begins.
Thank goodness this whole debacle will be over before long. Bill
will have to go back to do whatever he did before HRC began to
run for President.
YES WE CAN!!!!!
Lotsa truth to that statement,not just on this election,but on many other aspects of life.With age comes experience.We have all been fooled into placing our stock into the hands of charismatic speakers who are full of 'I'm going to do...etc...etc. for you' We have heard that not only from politicians and used-car salesmen,but company heads,professional athletes,investment advisors,doctors, lawyers,beggarmen and thieves alike.When you're young you believe the word because you simply can't accept that important people will promise knowing they can't deliver.Obama is counting on that and he won't get it from the older voters.
Rhetoric is not a four-letter word; it's a legitimate pursuit of persuasion through the control of language, reason, emotion, information. Most importantly, the best rhetoric inspires people to change their minds and to act. All politicians use it. We all use it. I'm using it right now! As a young voter (this is only my second presidential election), I am certainly irked and confused by the former President's statement. It implies two things: one, older voters are better informed than their more youthful counterparts, and two, his wife has few, if any, young supporters. The statement also undermines exactly what both Senators Clinton and Obama have been attempting to do - that is, convince large numbers of intelligent, informed Americans that she or he is right for the job. The savviest of all of us at the very least know that this former President is his – and his wife's – worst enemy.
Older folks are more change resistant. They have heard of Hillary. They don't know Barack. That is the ONLY reason she does well in that demographic.
If they are older and still very active and well educated, they are not change resistant, and she loses that demographic.
Jack,
I'm a 60 year old white Republican female for Barack Obama and proud of it.
The Clinton's past and present is a disgrace. Nothing but lies and deceit.
TEXAS
i am very disappointed at the lack of credit that is being given to "young" voters like myself. I am disappointed that a former president would choose to discredit an entire population of voters strictly on their age. I am 26 years old and I am a solid Obama supporter. I have been following Senator Obama's career since he was a state senator in Illinois. He is a remarkable man who has and will continue to inspire not only "young" voters, but those voters from every age demographic. Comments like those from President Clinton are exactly why we need some drastic change in our government. Those comments are exactly what tear our party apart and disenfranchise those that are exercise their rights. We (all of us, not just my age group) should all be commended for taking a stand and supporting a candidate regardless of who they are. I had always admired President Clinton...my admiration has quickly diminished and I now see him as just another slimy politician who thinks he and his wife are somehow entitled to the Presidency.
Bill Clinton can't seem to understand that some voters, not matter what their age, just don't like Hillary, her campaign, or her message. I find it offense that he thinks that voters who are supporting Obama are not smart enough.
Enough of the Clintons already. Besides, with the younger people voting now [and by the way that's because of Obama, not Hillary], Bill Clinton knows that he must try and find a way to get additional votes for his wife. I don't think he can do it. He might want to try the Republicans, maybe there are some there for his wife.
Bill Clinton still has the charisma and is still a good speaker but, like his wife, is no longer relevant in the American political arena.
Jack:
No, I don't agree. I know an 80-year old man who started a website to support Obama's nomination last year. Let's give "older" people more credit than that. They know a good thing when they see it.
Kristy in Salt Lake City, UT
While I admire the idealism and enthusiasm of our young people toward the Obama candidacy, selecting a president based primarily on a feeling is simply short-sighted and potentially dangerous. Clearly change is needed, especially in our relationships with one another, but we must be willing to assess our candidate in an honest and unbiased manner.
Have to say I agree with Bill. This is my take on the Obama appeal:
Oh, Mommy, bright, shiny, it sparkles, I want it, I want it now! If I can't have it now I'm going to have a big temper tantrum right here is public.
It doesn't matter that what ever the new thing is, generally it's a piece of junk that will break, contain lead, or be forgotten once it's in hand. Who knows what it's really made of or where it really came from. Like many of things people in this country have to have and have right now, it's not worth it in the long run.
But hey, I'm a small town, old broad, what could I possibly know?
Nanc – Up North, MN
Bill's also saying that younger voters are dumb if they vote for Obama. As those young voters are somebody's children, that should help Obama with all age groups.
Oddly enough, it was the support of young voters that put the steam into Clinton's run for the Presidency in 1992.
It's very interesting that he now feels that political actions of younger voters are not as relevant.
I'm sick of CNN and their Pro-Obama stance. If Obama is so great how come he always says the wrong things has ties with leaders in the world that is just unsavory and offends with his remarks he never thinks through. He could get this country in a lot of trouble.
At 61, I am certainly an older voter, and I have not been fooled by the Clintons this year. I was fooled by them, though, in the 90's. Some of our most difficult economic problems are a direct result of banking deregulation laws passed and supported by the Clintons while they were in the White House. I won't be fooled again.
It's the younger voters who are the smart ones!
Jack, Bill has it backwards. I'm an older voter. I voted for Bill. I remember Whitewater (both he and Hillary were involved). I remember the problems at the Rose Lawfirm. I remember Monica, and Jennifer, and all the others. I remember that in Bill's second administration, things weren't as good as the Clintons would like people to think. I also remember how Hillary was sent on trip after trip to keep her from meddling in Bill's work. I remember Hillary demanding that her healthcare program be pushed through (and it failing, in part because of her crappy attitude).
Jack, I'm an older voter. What Clinton has right is that I don't listen to verbal word play, half-truths, and yes, even outright lies.I remember the Clinton legacy very well. I'm voting for Obama.
Hell, Jack, I'm 62, about Bill Clinton's age and I fell headfirst for Obama. Just because one is old doesn't mean they have completely given up for cynicism.
Ray Kinserlow
Lubbock, Texas
"I don’t think its a question of savvy or not…i wish someone could explain to me why older voters and blue collar workers feel such a connection with the Clinton’s."
Should I say what no one else will? Ok – Because a black man looks different through the eyes of a 65+ year-old white lady than he does through those of the younger generation. This is not me playing any kind of race card, it's a statistical fact based on exit poll after exit poll that indicate race is more of an important factor for older people.
More Hillary Bashing I see, keep piling it on, she's still standing and so are her supporters right beside her
On the contrary, savvy voters will appeal to Obama. What Bill Clinton is actually asking is to appeal to his charisma and those who once followed the 42nd president. But alas, his and Hillary's time has come and gone and thus the appeal for the 42nd president has waned. The last appeal to Bill Clinton has come and gone such that there are no more panderings to a once president. The ballgame is over for the Clintons while these attept to try every trick in the book. When will the towel be tossed into the ring!
.I use to enjoy your show and questions Jack. But you have become a Hillary hater. Your questions have become so spiteful you are hard to watch. There are some Hillary supporters out here including me. And there are other networks we can watch. I guess this is what you want. It is the only reason In trying to figure out this Hillary hate of yours. You do not want us as viewers.
The Democratic Party has been identified as a more youthful movement since the 1960's and that image still has a lot of relevance today; the youth representing new ideas and change in this country. So in my opinion for Bill (who I was a supporter of) to say that older voters are too "savvy" to vote for Obama is to inversely say that young voters are not informed enough to make the right decision. By this statement Bill alienates young voters from Hillary and potentially the Democratic party. I believe the tactics the Clintons are using in this election are turning off liberals from her campaign and essentially work in Obama's favor.
Once again, Bill Clinton underestimates the minds of the voting people. There are plenty of older americans who have changed their minds during this negative campaign and are shifting their vote to Obama. It seems every time Billary take another swipe at Barack Obama, the polls show a wider margin nationally with Barack Obama in the lead! Keep it up, Billary. Soon, very soon, we will see the end of the Clinton democratic era. That will be music to everyone's ears.
Yes he is right Obamas lies arent a small things to us like on t.v. he said r. wright was his pastor but not his spirual leaded . His father was poor sheep herder turns he was weathy and educated .His back hand comments about Hillary is hard to listen to she has many faults but he seems to tell one lie after another
*Placing head in hands. *Shaking head.
As a 27 year old voter, who supports Obama, I must be the demographic to which Bill Clinton refered. I take personal insult to this, considering I am one class shy of a Masters degree in History. I feel I know a little bit about the events of the past, and apparently, that is where Bill belongs. I cannot believe that he would have the audacity to say this while criticizing Obama for some random comment about Americans being bitter..Well Bill, now I AM bitter, but not with Obama, with you and your wife.
I can't understand what hold the Clintons are alleged to have over older voters. Do people really want more sleaze and scandal in the White House? If you do, then regardless of your age, vote for Billary. If you want real change and fresh ideas vote for Obama. Simple, isn't it?
Oh yes, former comment forgot to mention that I am a 60 year old
white female. I have never entertained the possibility of being
a HRC voter. This is universally true among my many college
educated friends of all races. We see through her and see that
she is not THE woman we imagine being our First Woman President.
There will be other woman who will come along and will inspire us
to vote for them. Perhaps Michelle Obama in 2016!!!
Integrity is what matters and HRC lost hers a long time ago. Sad but true. BOSNIA-GATE anyone???
Wow.. Bill Clinton has officially jumped the shark!
Us "young" voters don't know what we're talking about right.. because we're so "inexperienced"? Right.. well – I don't think it was the YOUNG who voted George W. Bush into office – it was the more "senior" of our society.. and we see where that's gotten us.
Sorry, but I think the youth of this nation are seeing things far more clearly then those who are a bit older. We see politicians like Mrs. Clinton who will do and say anything to get elected, and many many "older" voters seem to be falling for it – YET AGAIN.
I as a "young" 18 – 35 year old voter and most of my friends & colleagues are quite smart, well educated, and i'm sorry Mr. Clinton – but we're not dumb enough to fall for your wifes BS.
It's not that we're to dumb – it's that we're to smart... and I have a feeling THAT is what terrifies you.
Obama, 2008.
I hate to say it but I think a lot of the younger voters are easily influenced and misled... they also think that they know everything and are smarter than everyone else... which leads them to think they know what is best for our country... Too be young again!!!
Obama found a way to tap into that... through the media, internet, youtube, ibook, etc... It has worked to the point that he can make things close... he can not win with out the working class and the older vote... that is where he has failed... it is harder to influence people that can see through the smoke... people that know he lacks experience, judgement, and has no real plan for change!!!
After talking to my grandmother, I called my dad (72) as well and he laughed when I asked him whether all old people were voting for Clinton because they were too smart to vote for Obama. He said that most of the folks in his building supported Obama. I also know that my mom (70) is voting for Obama. In other words, all the older folks in my family are voting for him and none of the them are "dumb". Sorry Bill!
I'm 57 and have been a fan of Hillary Clinton since the early 1990's. I also think that President Clinton was one of the best presidents of my life time, but I really want Barack Obama to be the Democratc candidate and the next president of the United States. I guess that means I'm not very savvy or maybe he is just trying to convince himself.
Jack, when Bill Clinton says "old voters are too savvy to fall for Obama" does he mean that young voters are just foolish or not wise enough because they are voting in huge numbers for Barack Obama.
As a young voter myself I take serious offense to his statement. Sen. Clinton's campaign is always ready to pounce on the smallest verbal gaffe that Obama makes and how come nobody (read the MSM) is talking about this. Bill Clinton should take his statement back and offer an apology for implying young voters are fools.
Vick
North Carolina
Bill can say whatever he wants.
Doesnt automatically make it true.
He could also say more left-handed people are voting for Clinton because they are angry about the pedals in their cars being backwards.
So in other words, those who are not older, that is, everyone who supports Obama is a simpleton; easily fooled by any PT Barnum dog and pony show that comes to town. This is more demeaning that any recent statement made by Obama. These people absolutely disgust me.
By the way, isn't it Obama who is winning among those with college degrees?
Obama '08
I am in my 50's and I guess I was hoodwinked as a younger voter when i voted for Bill Clinton. I used to think he was a a great guy. His behavior over the past several months has certainly opened my eyes and caused me to change that opinion.
Obama 08
Waterloo, IN
Jack, I think Bill is campaigning for Obama. All his comments seem to do good for Obama. Remeber way back before Hillary openly declared her presidencial bid? Uncle Bill said he didn't think Hillary would win, remeber that statement? That leads me to believe that uncle Bill wants his legacy not to be contaminated by his wife becoming pres. Too late, Obama is going to beat them all four from top to bottom. Uncle Bill, Hillary, Chelsea, and McCain. I can bet on that...
I guess my question would be....why does this comment not warrant the same ridiculous attention that was paid to the 'bittergate' comment? Isn't Bill essentially saying that us young ones are too dumb to know what we are talking about in order to form an educated opinion?? Shouldn't young America be 'outraged' and insulted that Bill is speaking down to us? It's funny how much Obama's comment was wildly spun out of control and this comment has only prompted a question and discussion on the validaty of his opinion.
Hillary should call her husband "patronizing" before she calls Obama that. As 25 year old, i feel insulted to be called a "fool" by President Clinton. I actually really liked this guy.
Isn't interesting that it wasOK with Hillary to send young voters off to war to die for our country yet now they seem not smart enough to be voting for her. Pehaps she the one that is fooled thinking that young voters wouldn't know just how bad her own record on voting is.
No, how can Bill be so "demeaning" to suggest that younger voters who are for Barack are not savvy. I am an older savvy female voter and I am for Barack. Older Clinton voters might be deaf, and blind not to see the dishonest , so called "misspoken" words of the Clintons.
Jack, we love you! I admire that you are a college "drop out" and make more sense and think with more logic than college grads. Thanks for your candor and excellent insight into our world!
As one of those young voters supporting Barack, I resent the implication that I've been "duped." My memory doesn't have to extend back past the last two Presidents to know we need a change!
Insulting young voters and telling them they need to listen to the elders isn't going to turn Clinton's campaign around. Thanks Bill, you just gave the Obama campaign a great quote they can use to energize the youth vote!
Isn't it interesting that the Clintons have been repeatedly slicing, dicing, and parsing Senator Obama's words throughout this entire campaign, more recently criticizing him for apparently 'offending' small town voters in Pennsylvania with respect to their culture and traditions. Now, Mr. Clinton is essentially saying that older voters are too wise and savy to fall for Obama's rhetoric and false promises of hope. Does this mean that he thinks 'younger' voters are clueless and in the dark? As an interested Canadian, I think it is refreshing to see so many youthful Americans engaged in the upcoming presendential election, inspired by a man who speaks honestly and openly about the issues facing America and the rest of the world. Who's out of touch now, Mr. President???
The OBAMA campaign will do or say anything to get Obama nominated – even discredit an honorable woman who has served our country for many years. It's just politicas as usual....
Totally disagree!
If thats true then Bill Clinton would have never elected over George Bush Snr by the older voters. They fell twice and too sawy to fall for the third time for a Clinton!
The older adults are beginning to change their mind Billary. PA will actually be won by Obama on April 22, 2008. She panders to what she thinks might sway democratics. Bill is now soliciting for donations to try and support a failing campagain because he doesn't what to have to be stuck with the bill. Hillary's legacy will be determined by how much they actually get accomplished in the Senate not as president. Six Shooter Annie Oakley will go back to Scranton and look for deer to hunt. She was suppose to win PA by at least 20% inorder to be taken seriously to superceed future President Obama for the democratic nomination. Guess they will try to settle for a win and use that. Gee if the Eagles could only move goal post like Hillary does to win games? I ponder. She is a loser.
Thank God for your segments, Bill, otherwise, I would give up watching The Situation Room! Thank you for your good work.
To sugguest that older voters are "too smart" to fall for Senator Obama is to also to suggest we are too old be inspired, too old appreciate and be moved by a new generation of politician. Well, I have news for Mr. Clinton. I am old enough to remember scandles in the oval office, impeachment, lying under oath and an affar with a woman young enough to be his daughter. Then Clinton's are pathalogical liers. We can all draw a comparison between " I did not have sex with that woman" and I made a mistatement due to sleep depravation. I wish the media would not let her off so easy.
Thanks again for your great work, Bill.
Jack,
If older voters are too smart to vote for Obama, why is it that us folks with a college degree and making over 50K a year support him?
Older voters are just scared of something different, whether it is that he looks different or thinks different, they are in their comfort zone when the same ol’ folks keep doing the same ol’ things.
Those of us that know how do do our own research beyond the evening news broadcast and gather our own information, make our own decisions, and our choice is clear. Obama 08.
Dolly Singh
California
I mean no disrespect to the elderly, but I'm afraid a big part of the reason older Americans won't vote for Obama is race. This is a group of people who grew up in a different climate, and they may be having a hard time imagining a black man as President. The most racist people I know (sadly) are my Grandparents.
Falling? For what? Maybe Bill has that "falling" part mixed up with the voters who have clumsily "fallen" victim to Hillary's propaganda. Obama is not someone you fall for, he's someone to stand for.
If Bill Clinton were savvy in the ways of saving his wife's campaign, he would just go away.
Kennedy was at that time the youngest elected presedent.
He was pretty good and inspired millions.
Obama is from that mold.
I'm 70 and very involved with politics, knowing that this world is being passed on to the younger ones.
We screwed up plenty in our time so let the youth take over and set it right.
Havn't the last 15 to 20 years killed our dreams or do we have to repeat the thing all over.
I'm not sure who should be offended more by his remarks...
the young people that he apparently things aren't smart enough to think for themselves and vote for the good of the country or
the older people (myself included) who plan to vote for Obama because Hillary and her group has done nothing but lie since day one.
I feel I'm saavy enough to know who is throwing the most BS around and will say anything to get elected. With all the lies they told while he was in office – why would I want them back in there again????
Makes me sorry to admit I ever voted for him.
OMG, I can't believe he is still allowed out of the house by her!!
He has single handedly erased any lead she might have had and, once again, alienated people that might have supported his wife!
I think there is some serious ego problems with this man and he is working very hard to torpedo Hillary's chances.
Now THIS should send a strong message to the super delegates. Obama, whether you like him or not, has SUCCESSFULLY gotten more people out to vote than anyone in a really long time. There are more people energized about the future of this company, then ever before. And along comes Bill and single-handedly alienates all of those new people by claiming they have been fooled by rhetoric.
How is that not divisive? How is that not threatening to send all of those same new people that are energized and want to get involved back into the houses because, yet again, people in Washington don't care.
Those people, in case you haven't noticed, are the future of this country. They are going to be paying for all of our Social Security (or whatever it is) when we hit the ranks of the older, they are going to be making the decisions. I don't think it's a good idea to tell them they are stupid or foolish.
I'm 40-ish :-), I've done a whole lot of research, and I'm backing Obama because of what he stands for and I think he has the wherewithall to bring this country TOGETHER to a common goal, more than any other candidate in this race. Take THAT to the bank (pools) everyone, and especially super delegates.
Well Jack, I'm 55 and Hillary is my senator, but I'm old enough and I think savvy enough to know that I don't want her to be my president. I am savvy enough though to be an ardent Obama supporter. Senator Obama is about the future and he offers real answers and a clear understanding of the real issues that voters are concerned about. He has conducted his campaign with dignity, intelligence and great management. When he has made a gaffe he has owned up to it in a sincere and honest way, and then he's gotten back on the issues.
And what does this say about how the Clinton's feel about all the wonderful young voters that have gotten involved passionately in the political process...they are not important or can't make a good decision. Talk about insulting. The Clinton's need to give it up and go home.
I am old lady who supports Obama. Tired of the yesterday Hill-Bill...looking forward to tomorrow > Obama!
With lies you may go ahead in the world – but you can never go back - Russian proverb
Bill, you and Hillary need to stop. We are on to you.
Obama 08
For heavens sake, he passed NAFTA and this may be why many people lost jobs in PA during Bush years.
Jack, why don't you ask him 'How savvy it is for our former president to become a lobbyist for foreign Governments '?
Jack –
Why don't you quit acting like you are doing any reporting and just go ahead and endorse Obama. Its a joke how one-sided you are. For weeks now, I've been watching your coverage and its obvious, you are no fan of Hillary Clinton.
What ever really happened to good reporting?
Jack,
The Clinton years were true American Dream years. I love those years, and most importantly, we NEED THOSE YEARS NOW.
Obama should learn how to walk before he learns how to walk!
Let's get our American Dream years back.
Go Hillary, you are the ONE can save our great nation now!
Wow.. Did former President Clinton just insult the younger generation? Who is he really campaign for? This is crazy!
Yes Bill Clinton is right because older, intelligent voters know not to fall for the truckload of rhetoric Obama dumps all over the country. Experienced voters also realize that presidents dont change the small things in our life, they either make them easier or harder to overcome.
Yes Jack, he is right.
Inspired by Bill, I am voting for McCain.
Mr. Clinton is correct in this, I am a 66 year old white woman who
made more money and kept more money during the Clinton years,
Monica never bothered me, nobody is lily white, however the U.S, was
more in sync with what one would call comforting and having a good
life. I am fearful Obama is a lot of smoke and whistles and a bit too
new in politics and has come on like the "Beatlemania" with his group
of youth followers who have their heads in the clouds.
Well, said Camille. I will not fall for Billary's lies, but will stand for Obama.
Obama 08
If older voters were as smart and savvy as Bill says, they wouldn't have voted for Bush a second time. Calling all younger voters....lets save our parents and grandparents from making another mistake.
OKC, OK
As a young voter, who holds a undergraduate degree, and a law degree....i find it very insulting for Bill to suggest that I'm stupid
I probably did more research into ALL the candidates (including those that already dropped out) that most of Hillary supporters did
Im so done with Bill....I loved him as a president, but he has to stop all these rants!!!
OBAMA 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No I don't. I am an older citizen and I deplore Bill Clinton's statement!
Way to "Rock the Vote", Bill.
Jack,
All 4 of my grandparents are luckily still alive, and luckily all of them are also supporting Barack Obama. My one Grandfather is a veteran of WW2 and my other Grandfather was a pilot for 40 years and flew Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford a few times. They all see Obama for what he is....the best choice for America.
Obama Richardson 08!!!!
Well Bill is wrong again. He Hopes that older voters will vote for Mrs. Clinton. I'm 60, white and I can see the same old politics of the recent past. I used to be a very big supporter of Bill, but no longer.
Being older, I remember the 60's. Sen. Obama brings back that hope for change that us older voters had then. So us voters now have the real chance of being the true generation of change by bringing about Change Twice! So I say to the rest of us older voters, don't let this time in history to pass by. YES WE CAN!
Wonder why so much hatred from the Obama people towards the Clintons? Aren't Obama and his supporters about unifying, change, and a new way to do things? Maybe I am in the Lou Dobbs mould, a cynic, and see all candidates are essentially the same. Never mind how they package their sales pitch. Obama is same as Hillary is same as Mccain. Why don't we save millions of dollars and decide a president by a coin toss?
Good question, Jack. When the primary season began, we had many good Democrats to choose from. I had high opinions of both Hillary and Bill. I was never convinced that Hillary could win a general election, but she was the frontrunner. At 85, I am a really good judge of people and Obama quickly became my frontrunner. Why?.....because he is highly intelligent, very sincere, honest and has good ideas – how refreshing! Hillary has managed to play out every insult she has thrown his way, from "exaggerating" her experience (called lying or spinning yarns when I was a kid) to telling people what she thinks they want to hear in a "high and mighty" way to repeating statements that are known to be false over and over on the campaign trail. Hillary wants the best of both worlds – making excuses for her own poor judgment (her campaign has been a train wreck) while taking advantage of the missteps of others. The interesting question is why older people have fallen for her tactics. Ask about Bill next. I have alot to say about him too.
I'm not sure, but I do know that the majority of voters (at least as represented by the electoral college or the Supreme Court) aren't savvy enough to vote against a George Bush....and with these last two elections I have lost faith in the collective wisdom of America in general.
Another Southern Oregon senior citizen for Obama. I'm 72 and been around for a few elections. I will vote for Hillary in November if she gets the nomination because I sure don't want McBush! I think Bill Clinton will say or do anything to get his wife elected and he is making an ass of himself!
Jack,
Since all the Hillary supporters are always interested in the polls, why don't they take a look at how the country polled with regards to Hillary's honesty...This is why she is having a problem trying to convince everyone she is the "better" candidate...
Bill could have said better things that would make people believe she was the better candidate and why, but instead, he chose to cut down Obama...probably he figured no matter what he said about her, everyone would have a hard time believing it..But let me tell you this, Hillary is her own worst enemy, not Barack Obama..She lied, misspoke and changes costume so many times to suit whatever she feels will get her votes..People are barely talking about Rev. Wright but they are STILL talking about the Bosnia lie, NATFA, Columbia, her gun-swinging attitude and knocking down drinks with the lobbyists...After looking at all that, I am definetly voting for Barack
Jack, Bill falis to realize that those who are voting for Senator Clinton are doing so because of her last name. She lies like no one's business. Her dictionary lacks awesome words such as honesty, integrity, and trustworthy. She scares the living daylight out of me. USA deserves a break from liars!. We had enough!
I'm an old voter (59) and I didn't believe Bill back in '92 and I certainly don't now that I'm "old enough to know better". Obama is a breath of fresh air in a foul system!
"Thou shall not lie."
-the bible
Obama 08
You are a liar, aren't you?
No, I think Clinton is mistaken– although being a Canadian I am not eligible to vote in US, I'm almost 78 and have thought all along that Barack Obama is the best choice for President of the USA
from June, Vancouver Island , British Columbia, Canada
After so many years I only have one thing to say about Bill Clinton. And it just so happens to apply to all the Clintons. He's a moron.
The Clintons are masters are separating people. Now they are talking about age, few months ago, they started the color and race issue in SC and before Iowa, they started the gender issue. I am so sick of them. Bill
If Obama were to have said something like this, the Clinton's would have taken him on a ride. I am glad I will not be hearing from the Clintons, again.
Perhaps it's a little wishful thinking on Bill's part that us "older Americans" have developed Alzheimer’s since he left office. Sorry, but one Clinton in the WH is plenty for me. We need a new direction in this country, not a u-turn.
Older voters will vote for Obama because they want their grandchildren to get a fair shake at the American dream other than more disgraceful, lying, disenfranchising the voters that really matter. This election is about Bill getting another shot at the benefits of the oval office if you know what I mean.
I believe older voters are saavy enough to know that the Clintons, who shoveled in $109 million in income last year, are the true "elitists" in this race. I also believe older voters are smart enough to know the difference between ducking and covering from sniper fire and stopping to accept a flower from a child on the tarmack. Oh yeah, I also believe older voters are smart enough to know when Hillary's husband and campaign manager are pro-Nafta based on their lobbying actions with foreign governments, it probably means Hillary is too.
I'm not sure the Clintons' have a strategy anymore. Older voters too savvy which implies young voters who are finally engaged in the politcal process are naive or just plain dumb?
Even if the Clintons' manage to backroom deal their way to the nomination – how do they expect to win when old folks are the only constituents that need apply?
Now that's desperate, divisive and not so savvy !
MrJack you have got to be sincere to yourself .Let me ask has CNN been fair to Clinton???????? The answer is a capital NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO . I have gone through a lot of article written by you and your fellow collegue ,Yourself and others have been too critical of Clinton . The days of Clinton were by far better than Bush and CNN to me is a media organization that is no value any more.Their has been no day that you people for once wrote anything positive on Clinton.It is a big shame on CNN. I have defended CNN in the past even when in the midst of muslims against the United States but today CNN has failed and i regret defending CNN news then.
To the teacher. If you are teaching politics in the classroom, I hope that you are not letting your views get in the way of what you are supposed to be teaching them. You are there to get them to think, not mold them into another you.
This is so wrong when young people are coming in large numbers and geting involved in the voting process this is a historical time and what does bill do he goes and spits on all of us young voters.
Au contraire Bill, age does not automatically make one savy. I'm supposed to be one of those "boomer" white males backing Hillary, but I'm not and nor are many of my friends.
We're tired of what's transpired in the past month. The "shot and a beer" nonsense, bowling duels, "shoot'em up Jesus" and the rest.
If Clinton would run a serious campaign rather than "attack, twist and equivicate", she'd be ahead in the national polls by 10 points rather than behind.
Thought they had Bill back in the bottle, but alas it didn't work much to Obama's good fortune. May 7 is going to look good this year as, perhaps, this primary contest will be over and none too soon.
The Clintons are masters are separating people. Now they are talking about age, few months ago, they started the color and race issue in SC and before Iowa, they started the gender issue. I am so sick of them. Jack
If Obama were to have said something like this, the Clinton's would have taken him on a ride. I am glad I will not be hearing from the Clintons, again.
Jack, We're two, smalltown retirees who will be voting for Barack Obama (as are many of our friends). Maybe we are too savvy to vote for Hillary Clinton. (What Bill Clinton says is rude and insulting...Does he think all younger voters are fools?) Why doesn't the media take him to task for three or four days for the demeaning things he says?
We've taken a careful look at both Hillary and Barack, and frankly we like Barack's stands on issues, his calmness under pressure, and his willingness to listen to all sides without always flying into a frenzy or constantly looking for ways to tear down the reputations of the other candidates. It's too much!
For once we're excited about the Presidential race. Sen. Obama is a breath of fresh air. We may be old, but we're not stupid.
The Clinton machine continues to grind on, although flailing about like a landed Trout on a dock. As a long time admirer and supporter of Barack Obama, I sort of relish the Billary show. It seems the more they wallow in their own mud flats, the more Obama shines.
Hi Jack,
It's amazing how fit Bill is still. You wouldn't think a man is age could be flexible enough to get both feet in his mouth up to his knees on a continuous basis. Why he's as limber as a school girl.
Damon
LA, CA
It has nothing to do with Bill or Hillary. It, unfortunately, has to do with how older Americans view Blacks. My mother is 64 and she was raised in the time where blacks and whites were treated differently and whites were deemed better than blacks. A black man with any amount of power was unthinkable. Many older Americans cant see a black man running this country. It goes against what they were taught 50 years ago when they were impressionable teenagers. Sad but true.
I think Obama is the best thing for this Country but I cant convince any older family members because they cant get over his race.
I am 62 and I think that Bill Clinton should get a life outside of politics and sex!
Jim, Prescott, MI
Can this be over now? Regardless of who you support this campaign is killing the Democratic party. Is it worth it? I can't believe that the Democratics are acting in a way that could possibly hand the next 4 years back to the Repubs. Wake up people. This is not a game–it is our future. I have no problem with people running on merit. Running on their strengths. Making the case to vote for them based on their stances, beliefs and fortitude. But this negative tone of the primary elections is hurting the Democratics chances. Please fight but fight with integrity or stop running.
And just how old was Bill when he became president......hmmmmmmmmmm maybe 45 or 46.....this guy has lost it.....says young voters are not capable of making the right decision...then says Hillary is 60 and makes mistakes at 11 at night...ANYTHING to win even if it is total BS!!!!!!
Jack, I get it what Bill's trying to do, he wants Hillary out of the race, so he can campaign for Senator Obama! A lot of his old staff work for Obama. Wow, he's trying to submarine what's left of her campaign. Lol
I think that is an insult to older voters. I know many a person over 60 who support Obama. So let me ask you this Bill, are older voters savy enough to see through Hillary's lies and political pandering. Who's the elitist now???
Jack
Bill Clinton needs to stop fighting so hard to get back into the White House. Older people may have supported Hillary earlier on but I think many are coming around. Many are starting to realize her ruthlessness and ambition which is probably why her lead has diminished to 5 points.
As a 48 year old, latino woman, based on the polls I should be a Hillary supporter and I AM NOT! Apparently many of the Pennsylvania voters see right through her and her once 20 point lead is down to 5 as of yesterday. Hopefully, many will see the light and support Obama who I feel has run a decent campaign. Hillary jumps on his every "misstep" while he is a gentleman and did not go after her with her "Bosnia sniper fire" statements which she repeated at every turn. Doesn't this tell America what she is really about? Let's leave the old nonsense behind and vote for a new kind of politics. Let's vote Obama.
I don't really consider myself an older guy (48) yet this election is a tough one. If we would face it, we really don't have anyone to choose as president. This is why the race is so close. Of the three left we do know about Clinton and what she stands for. We also know about McCain and what he stands for. We really have little to no idea what Obama stands for. One other thing we know is that George Bush will leave our country in the worst shape in history. Now we must elect someone who knows the politics of the House and Senate. We need someone who knows the thinking of big business and the powers that run this country. We need someone who has relationships with both the bad and good people of the world. This president must be able to kiss a baby in one hour and bomb a country in the next. This president must be able to cry in one hour and defend the country in the next hour. This president must be able to be the friend of a criminal on one hand and kill that same criminal on the other hand. This is not a seat to go sit in (president) or a place for anyone weak. This is the most important election in history next to Lincoln and we better pick the right one. Obama does not fit in this group, yet. It must be Clinton or McCain as the president and I don't like either, yet they are the best for the job. My vote goes to Clinton because she is better at doing what it will take to fix out country or should I say more tied into the things stated earlier.
Lets carry Bill's logic through: if older voters are savvy and savvy people vote for hillary clinton than people who do not vote for her are not savvy? He is basically saying that savvy people are smart, therefore he is calling all people who vote for Obama or anyone other than Hillary Stupid! I am not stupid just because I am young, older people are not smarter because they are older. You don't have to be smart to figure out that what Bill Clinton is doing and saying is erroneous! But keep it up Bill because you single-handedly alienate more people than your divisive, lying, powerhungry wife ever could!
Obama 08'
Way to alienate the younger voters, Bill. You are starting to sound like an elitist. But then you Clintons have always thought highly of yourselves.
As a 23 year old with a degree in political science, several years of campaign experience, and now currently in law school, I find these comments by Mr. Clinton incredibly offensive.
His comments, and the wide spread support given to Hillary by older demographics, represents not a gap in wisdom as Bill would have us believe. Rather, the generation gap seen in this primary election is a reflection of more fundamental differences between a generation that grew up with and embraces diversity, and a generation that tends to be frightened and untrusting of those who are different from them.
It becomes clear within a few minutes of conversation with older folks who refuse to support Obama, that their decisions tend to be based on the racial pretext of a time that is long gone. As Bob Dylan put it, "your old road is rapidly agin', please get out of the new one if you can't lend your hand, for the times, they are a changin'."
Jack,
As an older woman voter, I am deeply offended by former President Clinton's remarks. Now. . .hopefully all the pundits will spend the next two days or week dissecting his comments as they have ad nauseum since Senator Obama spoke at the fundraiser in San Francisco.
Wait a minute. . .forget what I wrote because I prefer the former president doesn't get any more attention.
What a shame his legacy is being trashed, thanks to his thoughtless remarks.
Ah. Then, by implication, anybody who is 'younger' and happens to support Obama is stupid, in the Clintons' viewpoint.
This would be a wonderful ad for Hillary's campaign to run, and I would strongly urge them to do so. Maybe as an infinite loop, over and over again. "If you are young and support Obama, you're stupid."
Yep. That would be sure to bring in the votes in a hurry.
Srikanth, from Chicago IL
(Note: I'd sent in this comment earlier, but forgot to include the city & state. Sorry about that...)
A couple of weeks ago you said old people weren't savvy at all, lol
Keep talking Bill
Obama/Bill Clinton 08!!
Love you Jack,
I don't know if I am suppose to be young or old, I am 30 years old and I will vote for Obama. I just can't see Bill back in the white house, who will he do this time????
Jack Cafferty you're pretty cool, just like Obama is. I love you both.
You are the most bias news caster i have ever seen. I am a CNN fanatic but your bias reporting is making me and alot of others turn to foxx. This is a shame for all the other fair and good reporters. I think you are the most unfairest person to Clinton I have heard. You are a reporter you should get a new job if you can not keep your personal feelings to your self.
jack
age dosen't bother me as much as the ststement mrs. obama made .maybe you can explain it to me and the rest of us. the ststement is "i am finally proud of being an AMERICAN".
As a 14 year old, I agree with Bill. A lot of young people who vote for Obama don't even know about his stand on the issues and just fall into the hype of Obamania and the media encourages them. They vote for a candidate based on personality instead of who can get the job done. All of the sudden his lack of experience, foreign policy, etc just doesn't matter because he's such a good speaker and has such a nice personality. Of course not all old people are going to vote Hillary and Bill should seriously shut his mouth before he ruins the Clinton Campaign even more. I'm not even old enough to vote yet and I understand this.
Let me get this right. Don't vote for McCain because he is too old according to the Clintons and don't vote for Obama because he is too young and a slick talker. That leaves only one person. Guess Who? The gender, race, and now age cards have all been played by the Clinton campaign. Please stop the foolishness and focus on the issues.
Jack: I am 70+ and love Barack Obama. But I am really bitter that I bought all the Clinton books and can't give them away. Also bitter that I contributed to the Millions of dollars that the Clinton's will be spending shortly for their retirement. To Hill and Bill "not this time"
Or maybe they're just uneducated.
Bill Clinton by saying older voters are too savvy and too intelligent to vote for Obama, disenfranchises, insults, and denigrates all younger voters as being"un-savvy" and un-intelligent.
Where is the outrage over Bill Clinton criticizing and calling young voters dumb?
Why is media only paying attention to what Hillary's campaign tries to spin?
"Bittergate" is the stupidest attempt by the media to make something out of nothing.
The Clintons and McCains clssifying the Obamas as elitist – that is something the media should take a serious look at – when was the last time either of them had to struggle to pay bills? When was the last time they were living and working amongst your average Americans? When was the last time any of them was an average American?
Its time the media got out from under the Clinton's power and stood up for itself and did some real and true reporting.
Hi, Jack! Please read this on Air tonight!
Look I'm a 44 years old, married with three grown children.
YES! I'm BITTER! Obama hit it right on! My husband, and I are
barley making the ends meet and this is no fault on ours. Clinton
needs to realize we are in a new generation of people.
Hillary, and Bill both need to be in bed by 11:00p.m.
She's a liar, and she will do anything to be president. She honesly
believes that WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES thinks
she should be President with no questions ask. If Obama were in
her shoes right now, the world would be demanding him to quit.
Let Obama answer that 3:00 a.m. phone call. He Can!
Atleast I know he doesn't have problems recalling events.
Signed,
Bitter in Rowlett, TX
Funny, what Bill should be hoping for is that they are not old enough to remember that NAFTA was his deal.
I think that Bill Clinton's comments are an insult to everyone who voted for Barack Obama. That is what his mistake has been in the past when talking about Obama's voters. He is telling the majority of Democrats that have voted so far that they are not savvy or that they are falling for a fairy tale.
Hi Jack!!!
I Do understand Bill But We The Younger People i.e 34yrs Old
We Will Be Paying Off SS And The Bush War For My Life Time So
And If Hillary I Ant Sense She Would Send Bill Fishing Till Nov. \She Has Run A Really Bad Champaign.
It is simple older people don’t like change, which is Obama’s main theme. But I don’t think even they will swallow Hillary’s charge of “elitism”. Coming from someone who has lived in government mansions for twenty years, isn’t this like the Silver Tea Set calling the Copper Tea Pot "shiny".
P.S. If she continues to paint the entire democratic party as elitist, how will this play in the general election, when half the nation already thinks she believes the Whitehouse is her rightful inheritance.
Cecil, in smalltown Chester, Va
This is a tough time for Bill. Hillary's campaign is near death. He's spouting the last throes of the kitchen sink approach. It's really sad; Billary should be conceding with some grace and dignity.
Jack
I'm to be 67 next month and Shrillary doesn't do it for me. It's ALWAYS been about Bill's legacy! That and making sure she doesn't have to wait for eight more years to protect it.
Look at it this way, Jack, if she can damage Obama enough and weaken him enough so that he gets the nomination but not the election, then she wins by being able to run in four years. If she damages him enough to fool everyone into giving her the nomination, then she can have eight years right now.
WIN, WIN for Hillary. That's why the tone of this campaign has not changed.
Jack,
The American people of all ages are simply tired of hearing Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton tell us we're are to stupid and not savvy enough to evaluate the candidates that are running from president and make an informed decision.
This is what make us "Bitter." We understand the "Politics." Stick to the issues, and let the American people vote for who they feel is best suitable to run our country.
As an older voter myself, yes I think we are more likely at first blush to see older as being wiser. Wow Obama looks young. Actually he is older than Bill Clinton and Kennedy when they were elected presdient.
I was turned off to the Clintons precisely because of my evperience with them and all their baggage. Barack Obama 's life experience in a pretty long stint in public life shows me he is a very good man, and very bright one with the ability to inspire.
Do we really want the Clinton circus l to come back to WAshington? .
Maybe older people have just become too cynical to accept a message of hope. Lighten up! Don't be so BITTER!!!
I think the youth are for the first time coming out of their cynicism about politics because of Obama. The Clinton argument seems to be: "you stupid kids, Washington will always be run the old way; don't hope for something better."
He did get part of the statement correct. Us older voters are too smart to be fooled, especially by him and Hillary. I am sure that my neices who are in college and their friends will really like his comments that seem to suggest that only younger and not so smart people support Obama. I think he is being discriminating against younger voters. I will be sure to send a copy of his emails to all the kids I know in colleges across NC. By the way, some here in NC are bitter too that the econony is such a mess. We older people have the good sense to understand what Obama was trying to say even if it did come out wrong. At least he has not told on more than one occasion that he had to run from sniper fire or praised Bill's NAFTA as one of his greatest acheivements as Hillary did.
This sounds like more desperation coming from the Clintons. I'm old enough to have voted for Bill Clinton (twice–once when I was in college, once when I was in graduate school), but I voted for Obama in my state's primary and won't vote in the general if Hillary is the Democratic nominee. Bill neglected to mention that older people tend to be more conservative than younger people, so Hillary is an easier choice for them, especially if they're nostalgic for the 1990s.
So then should the younger Democratic voters now be offended? I wonder how much "press" this will get? This is just as bad as Senator Obama's "bitter" remarks, yet the media and the campaigns are not having a frenzied filed day with this. I am a 32-year-old voter and I am not "fooled by Barack Obama’s rhetoric." I am very intelligent, and I respect older voters, but younger voters have an intelligent say as well. How sad Bill Clinton now is. What a foolish thing for him to say. He's "old" enough and intelligent enough to know better.
Lonnie H. -Toledo, Ohio
They're both selling 'snake oil'.
I was at the WA caucus and saw many older voters for Obama. That being said, as a sociologist I'm aware that "older" voters are sometimes more likely to feel comfortable with the status-quo. The Clinton's are the closest to that on the Dem side. They are more likely to react to the politics of fear which the Clinton's abuse. I hope older folks, like myself, realize a step backward will not take us forward. An impeached President does not belong back in the White House. A vote for Hillary is a vote for Bill as well. I hope older women don't vote for Hillary just to see a woman President before they die. Even some of my friends have told me this is why they are voting for her. This is too important to tangle up in feminist or vicarious motives. It needs to be the right women.
Yes.
They are also too savvy to support Hilary.
John McCain will win the general election with a sweep of all 50 states. The Democrats are going to do it to themselves again.
This is a tough time for Bill. Hillary's campaign is near death. He's spouting the last throes of the kitchen sink approach. It's really sad; Billary should instead be conceding with some grace and dignity.
I'm 65 and I guess I'm still young and stupid. I've been for Obama since he announced his candidacy.
Susan, Denver
Bill is old and forgetful, McCain is too old and forgetful and hilary is too old and BITTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The young people of America want the govt that was promised to them...for the people by the people we gave them wings let them fly bill hilary or mccain cannot relate to the young voters...Obama has changed the dynamics he is responsible for bringing in a whole new generation of Democratic voters and if you intend to keep them everyone 60 and older step aside. Hilary im 60 and know how i fell baby you dont want this sit back and enjoy your grandbabies
I thought Hillary told him to shut his mouth already.
Bill, at the same time as "complimenting" the old people, completely dissed the young people. Oh well. There goes any chance of ever getting the youth vote, otherwise known as the FUTURE OF AMERICA. No wonder this election is about the past versus the future!
And they are calling Obama condescending? I'm 23 and his comment demeans my intelligence and thus makes me even more bitter.
No. They're voting for Hillary because they, like Bill, believe HE'S the one really running for president.
So Jack... Is he saying younger adults are too stupid to understand what's going on? This is a clear put down on young people. Bill needs to go home and rest. Apparently he is too old too control the words that come out of his mouth.
Jack: The statements by Obama about small town folks being bitter has me really uptight. As a former Vietnam vet with two Purple Hearts, I would offer this comment:
We take young men and women from those small towns around America, put them in uniform, train them and send them off to war.
Many come back to small town America without arms and legs or in a metal box.
Small town America is not bitter about their circumstances–in fact they are the skeleton that holds this sagging economy together. They are the backbone of our country.
Bill Clinton is a self centered, has been. He's afraid Obama is going to get rid of all of his NAFTA dealings and taking away jobs from America. Who knows Obama may even effect his donating money into his own foundation. ANd for you Clinton groupies, hasn't anybody told you its over. The days of the Clintons are over. Its not about you anymore. The Clintons don't care about the future of this country or the future of the younger generation.
Yes, there is some truth to that. B ut I also think that for some Obama represents something "new and exciting" . Yes, he is that and he gives great speeches but where are the specifics? For most of us, the economy was very good during the Clinton years and now its horrible! I want to know why Obama voted for the Bush energy bill- why he says he doesnt take money from oil companies-but he doesnt say the truth is that no one can. He also does not mention the number of people from oil companies that have contributed to his campaign. He is smoke and mirrors! I just hope it s not too late for these young people to see that.
Angela
Philadelphia
I am amazed that a former Democratic President of the baby boomer generation would call younger voters dumb.
Jack, young voters should be extremely offended by Bill Clintons remark. And this is a much more serious remark than "bitter" that has been squeezed to death by the media. Not surprisingly, he's part of the reason young, smart voters are overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. Hillary would do well to lock Bill in a padded cell for the duration of the primaries. Keep up the good work Bill.
As an older voter, I remember riding high with all the Clintonites on the dotcom bubble, which crashed just as Bill was leaving office, so all that prosperity that he takes responsibility for was another illusion, like the housing market.
As an older voter, I remember Rwanda, Waco, Monica and the last minute pardons that remind me of Bill Clinton's squandered legacy.
As an older voter, I remember that saying, "Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice, shame on me." I won't get fooled again.
Obama/Kaine 08
Then at 63 I must be very young at heart because I have been very impressed by Mr Obama. His intelligence and wisdom, strong ideals and good policies (I wonder how many have read his Blueprint For Change?) far outweigh the negative barbs by Mrs Clinton. Of course, Bill will support his wife in public but I am suspicious of the number of times he has made a gaffe in that support, hurting her campaign. As it would be for Al Gore, now, to get near the White House, Bill would be very inconvenienced, having to put on hold his lucrative speeches and restrict his time devoted to the Clinton Foundation. I wonder how committed to Hillary's bid he is, really.
A parody from an "older" voter on a song that debuted during the Clinton-era presidency (1992 – apoligies to Right Said Fred)
...I'm to savvy for Obama, too savvy to be swayed, too savvy for Bill Clinton...
Bill's half right. I'm too savvy for Obama, and for the Billary for president team.
Bill Clinton is absolutely right. In fact my grandmother recently attended a seminar teaching her to identify smooth talking con artists who promise everything but in the end won't deliver the goods. Sorry Baraq she's on to you.
Gord
Nova Scotia
I think older voters have seen and heard it all at some point in their life, regarding presidential candidates. Older voters will vote for the candidate who promises them the most stuff. Especially if they are retired. Is Barack any different than Hillary? Not when it comes to freebies at the expense of those working to pay for the freebies that the older people will get.
I'm 39 and I work too many hours at a job I hate, to pay any more taxes than I already do. Obama and Clinton are sure to raise those taxes that I pay and I don't like either of them for that alone.
Jack, forget about the Super Delegates, this could be over with a Barack win in the PA primary, if Bill keeps yakking it up with his Senior moments. Bill, just keep talking...Barack you can cancel all that media buy you had scheduled for the weekend. Now that Bill has converted the senior vote for you. A one man campaign wrecking crew. Unbelieveable and Priceless!
Jack, I am a 64year old white woman from Indiana. I voted for Bill Clinton twice,. I still remember "I did not have sex with that woman".That was the first lie from the Clinton's and sad to say they just keep coming . I do cling to my faith and faith tells me I am not to lie and stay away for liars. Indiana votes early , so I cast my vote on Tuesday (tax day) for the next President of the United States , Barack Obama.
Connie from Logansport Indiana
The more I read about Obama the less I think he should be president. I guess I am old enough to have the time to read a lot, when I was younger I worked all the time and just listened to the newscast to make up my mind for me. I am glad I am finally old enough to make my own decisions now.
Brave old men talk of war and young men die.
I wonder if Hillary would have spun this to say that Obama was insulting older people if he praise the young voters for turning out in his favor. Just goes to show you the levels her campaign will stoop to divide us. First it's by sex, then race, now it's age. Is there a bottom, Ms Clinton?
I'm an older ( 62 years young ) and we are also wise enough to not fall for this Billary line. I can remember Ike and the day Kennedy was shot and all of since. It's time to send Billary back to the rock they came out from under.
Everytime Bill opens his mouth his wife has to put her foot in it.
How insulting of him! I bet Hillary will lose a lot of her young voters, not that she has many. Bill put his foot in his mouth again! when will he learn to stop speaking. He is one of the best things that happened to Obama, other than, Hillary lying about Bosnia, Hillary exaggerating stories to suit her, Hillary spinning statements to suit her, Hillary being negative and using dirty politics, nasty tactics, even worse than Hillary's Campaign manager working for the Columbian comapny who are a big part of the Trade agreement in place with USA, which by the way, Bill Clinton made $800K last year with, Hillary just being Hillary! Unlikeable! unelectable! This is a very demeaning comment and every young person, or someone my age that is voting for Obama should be insulted! I am a 49 year old white woman and proud to be an Obama supporter. So, I guess anyone who is voting for Obama is not savvy? could it be? wow! I have been told I am a very savvy woman! I wonder, are people lying to me or is Bill completely wrong! Ha! things that make go OOOOHHH! Bill and Hill time to take a chill pill!
See Jack, Bill Clinton said in defence of Hillary`s dudging of bullets in Bosnia that she missed up issues because she was tired and it was 11 pm. Bill continued by saying, quote "Old folks over 60, tend to forget things when it`s past 11pm. Now, we`ve heard from this that Hillary is old. Is he now courting the "old group" because he thinks they have bad memories? How about a 3am call? Bill is on dangerous waters again!
Jack,
I didn't realize that there was an age litmus test in which detirmines who can make a better choice when in comes to choosing who I want for president. To me it is comments like this from Bill and Hillary herself that have cemented my feeling all along that these people think for some reason they are better than the rest of us. That is not the type of person I want to be the next president of this country.
I want someone who can awaken that spirit that has been dead for so long now that spirit of if we believe in it we can make it happen. And you want to know what we have that person in Barack finally here is a person who is in touch with the rest of us and can honestly say that he has walked in my shoes. This awakening has nothing with following a person blindly because he makes some good speeches this awakening has everything to do with believing in ourselves that together we can make a difference and don't need to be told what is right for us but that we can have a say in it.
So sorry Bill take in from the not so savvy 35 yr old I reject and denouce this classification of yours because it does not apply to me or other Barack supporters because believe it or not we are smarter than you think.
I'm 60 and I support Barack Obama!
If age is supposed to bring savviness, who took Hillary's share of it?
All we have seen from Hillary since Barack won Iowa is a near-complete absence of savviness at every step of the way.
Where is the savviness in fabricating a story of bravery under sniper fire, and then repeating it over and over?
Where is the savviness in encouraging the superdelegate elite to overturn the majority preference of tens of millions of voters?
Both Clintons keep dismissing different demographics and geographics for various reasons as excuses why Hillary isn't really losing. Now, young people aren't smart – or are easily fooled. Wonder if he would have made the same argument in 1991?
Jack,
Bill was right, Jack. During those times, the economy was much better and all the rest of the stuff he rattled off. The problem is, Senator Clinton had nothing to do with any of that. It would take a major misunderstanding of all things economic to believe that by some process of economic osmosis–Hilary is going to be able to replicate the succes that her husband was able to experience.
I wish, I wish, I wish that people would simply look at the the two democratic candidates only. Senator Obama and Senator Clinton are the only two that matter. If Clinton gets elected, it will be HER presidential legacy–not his. As soon as people understand this simple–yet oddly perplexing fact, we will all be better off.
Jack, I do not really think it comes down to "falling" for a canidate. I do not really think Obama is playing a game or proposing a trick trying to become President of the United States. All older people know Clinton and Mccain. They do not know Obama well. So, it is mostly human nature to choose the lesser of two evils rather than the unknown. I am young and i personally do not believe that a person who has been in politics as long as Mccain and Clinton do not want to change it. Otherwise it would have been done already. But what Obama has to offer is change. The country has been withstanding the same old politics for years not and by the way it looks our economy is going down. So, I see it like this, If what we have been doing is not working then it is time to change the game plan.
how could that be true.they voted for bill and we all know what happened there.at least obama did not disgrace himself and the office he holds before he got to the white house and even after like bill did.give him the chance.
Yeah right. When I was younger I voted for Hillary as my Senator. Never again. Now that I have gotten trully dotty at 71 I am voting for Obama. I hope to see him through two terms. And that the effects of his presidency are felt long after. By then I will have forgotten how let down I felt as I watched Hillary and Bill throw their mutual legacy to the dogs.
Steve. NYC
Jack,
Could this guy say anything else stupid before the primary is over. Lets see if you are young then you are to stupid to know what’s best for you and that’s why you would vote for Obama or that’s why you might be undecided. Hmm, that is an interesting tactic, alienating the voter demographic you need to have a chance at hijacking the election.
Ed, DC
There you go again (bill)
Lancer
Indianola, IA
Keep talking Bill, keep talking...........
And one more thing Bill.......aren't you that guy who cheated on Hillary???? Ohh wait a minute, Bill doesn't wanna remember but unfortunately, Monica does.......keep talking Bill, keep talking.....
Bill Clinton is the one who is out of touch. I am a 63-year-old Caucasian male. – – – – I am neither for nor against any candidate based on race or gender. We must "denounce and reject" every form or racism and sexism. I am not "against" Hillary Clinton, but I am "for" Barack Obama. – – – – I am for Barack Obama because I believe that he alone has the unique ability to bring Democrats, Republicans and Independents together to make the positive changes, domestically and internationally, that are so much needed to regain our position in this world, without which I fear for the future for my children and grandchildren. – – – – Barack Obama is the only remaining candidate who can get things done in congress. Hillary Clinton will not be able to get much done due to the negative backlash with congress arising from the strong anti-Clinton sentiment with the other side of the aisle that remains from the bitter partisanship of the 1990s. Not only is Barack Obama's candidacy about making positive change in lifting all people to better achieve the American dream, but it is also about a new paradigm about how that change will be accomplished.
Voters are too savvy to fall for Hillary Clinton's lies!
No
Sam, Jack...you would think that there wasn't any room left in Bill's mouth. But once again, he has proven us all wrong. He already had one foot in it, now he's managed to get the other one in there as well. What next Bill? You're running out of limbs!
By his comment, is he trying to convey that younger voters are ignorant for supporting Obama? Is it me, or does everytime this man opens his mouth he has to quickly following up with sticking his foot in it?
Bill and Hillary are so desperate that they don't know what to do with Obama anymore. They should just have both a drink and let us vote our next president. We are bitter and angry, they make over 109million and they are out of touch because they don't have the same issues that we are going through. Only Obama understand us and that is why he will be our next President of the Unites States.
I do agree with President Clinton, even in a broader context. Voters my age tend to like the "Rock star" vs. the one who actually puts out policy positions. Look, there aren't many policy differences between the two and people are basing their votes on who is the supposed better orator.
People my age don't remember how low gas prices were during the Clinton administration.
Kyle Raccio
San Francisco, CA
Hillary is a liar and a fake and a manipulator. It is no wonder she is with Bill Clinton, who has been the same. She is a Socialist, and evil toward true American principles. She will NEVER be elected President.
Barack Obama is going to be the next President Get ready for President Obama. He will be inaugurated on January 20th, 2009, at Noon.
Voters are saavy, and not stupid enough to vote for Hillary.
Yep Jack I agree with Bill on this one, Obama is an emty suit!
BILL, now who is living in a fairy tale?
Jean
McLeansville, NC
Define old.
Crystal Lake, Illinois--I'm an older voter, and I've learned to be too savvy to fall for Bill Clinton's desperate, divisive political spin.
Jack
I'm 70 and voted for Obama in the Virginia Primary. My offspring have finally come around to my way of thinking. It took a while for them to see that we needed a fresh an rational approach to running our government. I believe we need a person who will work to bring about a centrist government. Obama has a better chance of achieving that.
By the way, I grew up in Pennsylvania and often go back there to visit. Obama was on the mark when he said that people in rural and small town PA are angry and or bitter. The jobs are gone and there is little prospect that they will return.
Jack,
One word YES.
PC
Lex
Based on the remarks Bill has made during this primary season, I've come to this conclusion.The Clinton Primary Campaign definition of Obama supporters is simple:
Young, stupid and black.
Rashad, Miami, FL
Yes Bill is right along with very smart young voters like myself.
Wow, I am convinced that Bill truly does not want Hillary to win as he used to be too politically savy to make some of the idiotic statements that he has been making. And I am an Obama supporter for the record!!!
I think that's true. they won't be influenced by reverand obama who is really just a smooth talker. the republicans will make mincemeat out of him if he wins. I'll be a democrat for mccain at that point
Jack, I'm an older democrat voter and I would never vote for Hillary because I know what she is all about.
One sure way to get Bill spurting his nonsence – critisize his time in the White House! Every time he does that he drags Hilliary down. Go Obama!
Annie from Soddy Daisy
Debbie MI
Older voters are too saavy to fall for Bill Clinton's rhetoric. At this point, Clinton fatigue is an understatement.
I am a voter of 60+ years, and the candidate in this campaign I trust the least is Senator Clinton. She has blatantly lied about several personal issues, such as her Bosnia trip, as well as misrepresenting her accomplishments as first lady and Senator. Her win at all cost panic methods, is obviously eroding what little trustworthiness she originally possessed at the beginning of this campaign.
It has been written in medical journals that some patients might experience diminished mental faculties following open heart surgery, One can only wonder if this might be part of Bill Clinton's problem. Now what Clinton–has done effectively here is pit younger voters against older voters–another glaring example of the divisiveness that the Clintons created in the 90's and which they will repeat if she is elected. When the history of this election is written, I am sure it will be determined that part of Hillary Clinton's failure to win the nomination was due to Bill Clinton. A Washington Post poll today shows an erosion of trust in Clinton.
This over-65 voter long ago made up her mind to vote for Obama.
Obama himself turned his back on his own democratic party.
How dare he compare the Bush administration with the Clintons when making the remarks about the PA people.
I did not only take offense of the Religion,bitter and gun remarks,
I found it offensive to think he could smear the Clintons administration.
Appears Obama would do anything to appear to the wealthy fundraiser including turning on his own party.
I'm 64, white, and female. I'm supposed to be a Hillary supporter. But I'm really taken with Barak Obama. I made up my mind a year ago that he's the one for me. If Bill says older people are for Hillary, I guess that means I'm not old. Yeah!!
Lets get serious, Obama makes Carter seem like a statesman. Lets all be very wary of this man who could lead us into a huge mess and destroy our beautiful country.
My twin sister is 71; she's an older voter whether I am or not: we both have "fallen for" Obama. Were we to TRUST Hillary (or BILL for that matter), it would take more than a "fall", it would take an idiot.
Jack, The REALLY SMART voters are too savvy to fall for either BO or HC !!
Too old for Barack? Let me put in my false teeth and turn up my hearing aid before I send Barack a check from my monthly social security pension....
Jack,
Let's not overlook the flip side of Bill's argument – that younger people are not "savvy" enough to figure things out for themselves. Gee, that sounds a little "bitter" to me.
Alex Brandon
Phelan, CA
When Obama becomes President, the bumper stickers will read.
Blame the other voters, I didn't elect him.
Jack,
Well I think you just may be qualified to answer this??? (wink. wink) Well?
I'm too old to listen to an elitist Clinton talking down at me again.
Totally disagree with Bill Clinton's comments. But totally agree with Cafferty's assessment, it is all about Bill!
The Clinton's not only lie, but they lie with such ease it's frightening.
jI'm one of those older white women (84 years young) and I definitely do not agree. I'm rooting for Obama – all the way to the White House!.
I absolutely agree!!!!!!
Older and wiser is true... That is why I think the older voters will surprise the Clintons and they will see some of those votes swing Obama's way. So NO I do not agree with Bill's assessment.
Jack:
I'm 67, which I guess makes me an older voter, and I'm too savvy to fall for Hillary and Bill. In my book, Hillary is a manipulative an deceitful and will never get my vote. And I've lost my respect for Bill because of statements like this one.
I feel that Bill Clinton is campaigning as hard as he can and saying more or less what whatever he can get away with to reclaim revelance again. Without the White House, their sights will be set on the NY governors mansion.
I am an older voter and I would never vote for Hillary Clinton. Does that make me not saavy if I choose a candidate who is more trusworthy than she is? I resent Bill Clinton, once again, making this about him. If he and Hillary would examine their years in the White House honestly, they would both be ablse to see the damage they did do to this country. This is more devisive politcs on the Clinton's part. They are now trying the younger people against the older people. He and she are beyond redemption!
Pres. Clinton was referring to Obama comparing him to Bush. It is plainly absurd for Obama to make this comparison and frankly it hurts the Democrats. I agree with Clinton in his statement that older voters were there and know the difference.
As usual Jack, you take every opportunity to slam Hillary or Bill Clinton. Also, the negative polls you mention are done by the Washington Post that endorse Obama. Not objective – but then neither is CNN.
Here you go again. After weeks of not tuning in to CNN because of the blatant and hateful bias against Hillary, and by extension to all women, you put out as "breaking news" one poll you had to scour the Internet to find. Hillary is ahead in every primary but North Carolina and we'll never hear that from CNN. This primary has been a real eye-opener for us women. Now we know just how you really feel and just how far you'll go to keep that male hegemony.
I never thought I'd have to turn to FOX to actually hear fair and balanced news.
From Rhode Island:
as a young would-be voter, if then I was a citizen, I must say, I would hope that more young voters would also see that Mr. Obama is not going to achieve anything BUT TALK! He is a good speaker, but not all men who were proved to be good leaders.
President Clinton is correct, life experience should tell you that Obama is more talk than anything else.
I'm a 61 year old white male and I voted for Obama, I guess that makes me a fool too.
So we go from "elitist" to "elitist hypocrite"? Or did Bill just 'misspoke'?
I am too old to have the wool pulled over my eyes. What amazes me is the way Obama has been able to fool so many people with his stylish words. Wise up people, scratch beneath the surface and see where he is really coming from. If anyone is bitter, he is. Read his first book!
Jack,
I'm a 21 year old college student who proudly supports Barack Obama. If, in Bill Clinton's eyes, I'm not savvy, then his wife didn't deserve my vote in the first place. Its a shame that instead of convincing people to vote for Hillary, he's basically saying, if you vote for Hillary, I get to be in the White House again!
Aloha Jack,
As an older white woman my vote is for Obama. Obama misspoke in the bitter controversy . Hillary lied in her Bosnia controversy...
I am wise enough to know the difference....Jane from Hawaii
I hope older voters are really to smart to fall for another Clinton. I think Hillary will say and do anything to get the Clinton family back into the White House. Let's not let that happen again.
I'm a 63-year old white Texan feminist who supports Obama and is disgusted by the Clintons. I tried to support her at the beginning but after their behavior following the South Carolina primary have decided we cannot allow those two to be in the White House again. And yes, for Bill it's always been and always will be about him. He's showing the same terrific judgment that led him to fool around with Monica in the Oval Room. At my age I know how to recognize a genuinely special leader when one appears – that's Barack Obama.
So, basically, he says we, age < 40, are not capable making good judgment and selecting the right candidate. I do not know if calling me dumb, is a good to convince.
I have do good judgment that's why I am not voting Hillary.
Obama 08
You had your turn Bill, back off and let Hilary fight her own fight. We loved you when you were president, but you time has gone.
I agree with Bill Clinton. Obama makes too many promises ... but if he were elected, he wouldn't be able to change anything. The President single-handedly can't do anything, but unfortunately, many young people think so.
Hillary Clinton is more mature, knows what is doable, and is more practical. Wiser people will vote for her.
I am a 25 yr old male republican.
I agree completely Jack. Older voters, like myself, know that it takes qualifications and experience to make change. Senator Obama says "Hillary is part of 'Old Washington"". What's old in Washington are some of Obama's supporters. The lobbyists are not going to vacate K street and the lawyers aren't going to walk away from their clients. President's come and President's go but Congress is forever. That is where Old Washington has to change.
Pat
I agree with Bill Clinton. Voters who have a longer memory of past accomplishments tend to be less impressed with a candidate with a thin track record and a gift for retoric.
How old is "older?" I'm 49 and I'm not fooled. He's more liberal than he portrays himself to be, and he's not backing up his words with the kind of experience or wisdom that we old-timers know a person needs to be able to lead others. I knew Clinton was a liar when I voted for him in 1992 and I didn't care. I want a president who will do what's right and do it capably. Obama would be the liberal version of Bush - greenhorn being manipulated by puppeteers behind the scenes. I look at the resume – not the cover letter.
i am 83 and "found" Obama a year ago and am sticking with him thru thick and thin of Hilary and Bill. He is special in a world of the same old thing. t is the first time in my life I have contributed to a political campaign- just a bit , but withstrong hopes.
Funny, so I guess for every younger voter with a college degree or just common since in general is "dumb" for voting for Obama? Billary's whole reason for running is not for her honors, but because Bill is making her run so he could get back in office!
Say Jack I'm an older voter, and guess what I'm older enough to know when I'm being lied to. The biggest problem with this election is the BS from the Clinton campagin. People really should look at the number to times she has changed her stand on issues and the number of lies she just seems to shurg off like o'well. I really hate being lied to, wouldn't vote for that women if she was the only one running.
Mike, Fallon Nevada
Here we go again. Now LONG before means the presidency immediately before Bush?
I think Obama is referring to the corruption that makes up Washington DC today. It's been growing since I was a child, and unless someone stops it, it will continue to blossom until all our freedoms our gone, and we have a government that controls our every move..... and takes care of our every need, all for the small price of sending them every penny we earn.
Older voters? I think like the rest of the country, they are a mixed bag.
I'm so tired of the media telling me how 40 year old red heads with pimples feel compared to 23 year old Chinese American men with dogs about a particular candidate in a particular district of a particular state that it makes me sick. Can't you just admit that you don't know? Oh wait, that doesn't take 24 hours, and you have to fill time, don't you?
Some older voters will be for Clinton, some for Obama and some for McCain. That's my take on it.
I guess Bill is refering to voters who are about McCain's age. They think lettuce pickers make $50 an hour and strolling the streets of Baghdad is as safe as strolling the streets of Detroit and Iraq had something to do with the 9/11 attack.
Only Obama will get a vote from me. Surprise! I am a 68 year old white woman. One of those people everyone says is not supporting Mr. Obama.
I do not agree that older voters will choose Hillary. As far as Bill Clinton's comments, if he insists on saying "fall for Obama," that seems to suggest that everyone involved is trying to trick voters into voting for them. Does this mean that they need to "fall for Hillary?" Personally, this election year, it is a matter of choosing the least evil of the group. I have not figured out who that will be yet, but they all are considerably bad at this point in time.
You have to give Bill Clinton credit for trying. The reverse argument – that younger people are too savvy to ever vote for Hillary – has been circulating for months now. By turning it on its head and getting it out to mainstream audiences it's a last minute attempt to shore up the seniors vote.
I used to like the Clintons but this campaign is just too much for me. Republicans love to claim that the end justifies the means, but Democrats? If John McCain were to run a campaign like Hillary we would pounce all over him, yet when Hillary does it we have Democrats who conveniently turn a blind eye. The Democratic establishment is selling the party out!
I'll be 68 next month and have followed Obama's progress with great interest. Next to him, a true visionary and brilliant leader, Hillary Clinton always seems even more strident and hollow. I only hope the country will for once pick a President who is above politics and petty squabbles.
Let's get the CNN headlines started now:
HILLARY REPUDIATES BILL'S COMMENTS IN AGEGATE FLAP
If Bill doesn't keep his trap shut, he's going to be in a sleeping bag in the garage.
Jack – My husband and I are senior citizens and in spite of Bill Clinton's ridiculous comments – we are savy enough to vote FOR Barack Obama and NOT Hillary. We have supported Obama from the beginning and will continue to. We don't want anything to do with Senator Clinton. How Presidential is it to drink a stein of beer and then down a shot of whiskey. Real class there Bill! It's not about you anyway so get lost.
I'm 67, I'm savvy, I'm not voting for Hillary.
Obama would not be leading Clinton in every category of voting if he did not have votes from older and younger individuals. In fact, older Americans are better equipt to call Clinton on his B.S.
Kennesaw GA
Bill just needs to keep talking. He is only helping the Republicans!Hopefully the older people are wise enough to vote for neither Obama or Clinton!
I'm 67 years old and remember the Clinton years of turmoil far too well; let's just say I'm plenty 'savvy enough' not to vote for Hillary.
Absolutely agree that middle aged to older Americans are too smart to fall for Obama.I don't like movements , sheep following all the while screaming for change.Remember the sex , drugs and rock and roll movement.Although it was a cool sounding movement, all it really accomplished was an astronomical divorce rate and aids.Movements like Obama's reveal the real sheeple.
Jack, I am a 70 year old Vietnam veteran, and I am too old to be taken in by Hillary's lies. I support Obama
Yes I agree.
O.K., i get it. the only demographic hillary clinton does well with is older women. so the rest of america is just too dumb. Who's being elitist? This comes from a former young rhodes scholar, who entered politics at a young age, and who married young. i guess 60 is the new 30.
Jack, Can I paraphrase Mr Clinton's wording? It sounds like he's saying the "youthful supporters of Obama are stupid". Is that what he's saying? That we're stupid for voting for Obama?!
WOW! I liked Bill when he was president(even despite his -ahem- indiscretions), but this man has TRULY lost his marbles!!!!
People like me are supporting Obama because he's offering us an alternative to the corrupt political machine that has become so out of control.... and Bill's a HUGE part of it!
Krista San Diego
Bill Clinton's comment? Quite the opposite, older voters, such as we are, are much too savvy to be fooled by Hillary's desperate rants or put up the Clinton lies and dishonesty. We do remember Whitewater.
We are two voting retirees in Ohio.
Younger voters can;t seem to put two and two together to get 5 where Obama is concerned-all of his separate negatives add up to a great bigt negative-extremism, fascism, racism and white hatred-who want someone with this background taking over the white house-why didn't he say that blacks in poverty striken Mississippi turn to drugs, guns and violence because they are bitter about the government-he only attacks whites-these are the type of things stupid youths don't discriminate and see for what they are Bill Clinton is right-wiser older voters know that Obama would be a disaster for this country-at least we can trust Hillary-can you trust Obama to ever tell the truth about anything? REzco, his minister,his racist chuirch leanings etc...
Is he talking about the same savvy older voters who have bestowed upon us a Bush Presidency for the last 8 years? Uh, no I don't agree. But then again what do I know? Apparenlty I'm just a young idiot who voted for Obama.
I think watching the Clintons self destruct on this level is like watching the Titantic slowly sink into the abyss... Who is really running for President here? Hillary or Bill???.... I think Obama can easily wrap this nomination up with the PA primary. All he has to do is make references to the former Clinton adminstration and just watch Bill go wild out on the campaign...What is up with all these folks with anger management problems.... McCain with his self-admitted anger issues, Hillary's "Shame on you" and pointing of the finger eruption before the Ohio primary, and Bill's ego driven constant retaliations for anything but praised said about his administration..... Hey Obama.... Just talk about Bill's administration from now til Tuesday and the nomination is yours, dude!
Anita
West Orange, NJ
No, Jack I do not think so...You should ask him why Sen. Obama gets more votes from higher education citizen. Without prove, Mr. Clinton can say anything he wants. I am really sorry for him that his wife's campaign underestimate his ability. If they know how to use him, Sen. Clinton would be in the better situation than now.
Bill Clinton, as usual, has no idea what he's talking about. I'm an older voter and It's he and Hillary that I don't trust nor believe. They are so fake, they're funny.
Donna, Missouri
Hi Jack,
You have got to be kidding with the Clintons? It's time to turn the page, they both are all washed up. The dirty politics are getting so old. Senator Obama has what it takes in this day and age to make things happen. He wants to work hard for us Americans and I stand behind him 100%.
I am 55 Jack is the considered too old to vote for Senator Obama???
Let's see. What's an older voter? I've been voting since 1971 and I guess that might put me in that category, but then again, I don't want to be in the same category as John McCain. I guess he'd be in the oldest voter category.....unless he didn't start to vote until 1971, but I think he was a POW then so I guess I'm safe. That said, Obama is correct. Many of today's problems have been here before Bush. The problem here lies with Clinton. He's assuming Obama is taking a shot at him. Givin' Obama's honesty, Obama is talking more of pre-Clinton as well. Is Clinton saying he left the White House and the United States in perfect order? Well then, that's another Clinton lie.
I happen to be of the "older generation" and feel we have been around long enough and are savvy enough to spot a dishonest person-as in Hillary Clinton.
Birds of a feather stick (flock) together (smile)!
Need I say more (smile)
Wichita, KS
Obama is the teflon kid alright and you are one of the chief polishers of that teflon. Sure Clinton is right, older voters can read him like a book and the book is scary!
hahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahah!
Good try, Bill. Sorry, you're wrong again!
Why didn't you listen to your other half and shut up while you could?
Go Obama!
Are you surprised by anything they say?
ABCnews has a report
Hillary Clinton On Southern Working Class Whites In 1995: "Screw 'Em"
Once again, former President Clinton knows not of what he speaks! I am a 70-yr. "young" widow and I am 1000% supporting Obama, as are some of my "age smart" friends. I would never ever consider voting for Hillary Clinton. Thank you for the opportunity of voicing my "senior" opinion!!!!!
Bill still doesn't get it that he's not running for the democratic nomination, Hillary is. But I have to say being as how he's been acting lately, I glad he's not.
I don't know what Bill Clinton considers "older", but I'm 57 and I have a
61 year old sister and an 80 year old mother. We consider ourselves
too smart to fall for the Clinton machine. Barack Obama is the first
politician I've trusted in years. Hillary needs to drop out before she
divides the party more than she already has.
Linda from
Masontown (a small rural town) in Pennsylvania
I'm 70 years old and I am savvy - and old - enough to remember the Clintons when they were in Washington. I thought Bill was a good president but there were always these "murky" areas. I'm going with Obama this time around.
Bruce
California
I am a great grandmother and am very smart. Smart enough to know that Hillary will not be the next president. We smart old folks can see right through her. Barack Obama is an honest man and that is what this country needs It's been a long time since we have had honesty in the white house. I am old and my memory is very good. Elizabeth
How can anyone believe anything the Clinton's say???
They are such big liars and have lied to everyone. I think the reason Obama is doing so well, is because people just don't like the Clintons.
young people have been on the cutting edge of moral and political issues for the entire history of the United States and the world. If you need proof just look at the civil rights movement and the vietnam war to name just two in recent american history. maybe the clintons should start listening to young people instead of casting off their beliefs as not "savvy". i think its clear that the clintons are just too old to understand that the youth are not the naive ones, but rather those with a hopeful vision for the future that need to be closely listened to if hillary has any hope of becoming comander in chief.
Jack, I'm a 59 year old women who isn't fooled by Hillary! I was surprised by Barack Obama when I first saw him on Oprah and the more I see and hear, I like. Bill needs to shut up and let the chips (votes) fall where they will
It is disappointing to see President Clinton write off an entire generation of voters as gullible and unsavvy. Young voters have been extremely involved in this election and are very informed. The Clinton campaign is aware of this, or else they wouldn't be expending the resources on youth outreach and sending Chelsea to college campuses across the country. It is a disservice to the growing community of youth voters to demean that community for attempted political gain.
Kevin Bondelli, Mesa, AZ
I'm 72 years old and I will vote for Obama any day over Clinton. It's about time we have someone we can be proud to lead our country.
Most of the comments on your blog are pro Obama . You keep deleting comments for Clinton because of your being biased. Jack just stop camouflaging and go out there to start campaign for Obama. You are a disgrace to journalism
Yes, the President is always right this cycle and your daily Clinton attacks are helping them.
BTW, China wants an apology for you calling them goons hack.
You are an embarrassing, sad, bitter excuse for journalism.
They should fire you.
I'm a 53 year old small business owner and former Financial Services executive living in Wisconsin for the past 10 years - originally from Philadelphia , PA - who is firmly behind Barack Obama. So is my husband who is 50 years old, and my sister and brother-in-law in San Diego, CA who are ages 56 and 58; my sister and her husband in NYC who are age 65 and 69; and our 87 year old parents in Florida - ALL of us support and voted for Barack Obama (except for our parents who didn't vote because they said it wouldn't count so why bother). Do we count as the "older" voters?
Just the opposite, we are just too savvy to listen to what Bill Clinton is saying, after all he's the one who had a scandle in the White House.
Barack Obama is who we need to bring this country back into good grace.
At 60 years of age I can say that Barack Obama offers the freshest breeze to blow through the political scene since Pierre Trudeau (past prime minister of Canada) wandered around parliament wearing sandals. I think President Clinton would do well to remember that "older" people have the benefit of having experienced a plethora of ineffective politicians who did not live up to their promises. Senator Obama has an honestness to him that, IMO, is appealing to all ages.
With all due respect, an individual would have to pretty out of touch with reality to say that Pennsylvannia or any other state has faired better the last 7 years compared to the Clinton years. Let's be real.
We are on the verge of $4 a gallon gas and economic upheaval not seen in almost 80 years. Meanwhile, the leaderless Bush White House does nothing...........reminiscent of Herbert Hoover during the last Great Depression.
Hell No! I don't agree Jack. Is Bill trying to sabotage is own wife?? The worst thing the Clintons could do is to insult young voters rationale and intelligence. So, is Bill saying that young people are savvy enough to serve in our military, but not smart enough to make an educated vote? The Clintons self-entitlement, condescension and over-mothering will be their ultimate downfall and when its all said and done we probably can expect a divorce from them.
I agree, but not for the reasons Bill gives. After all, we older voters remember that his own campaign platform was little more substantive than his theme song: "Don't Stop Thinking about Tomorrow".
Jack Schmedeman
Hot Springs Village
Arkansas
My husband and I qualify as "older" voters and we are both backing Barack Obama because he is the best candidate to lead our county out of the mess it is in today.
Jack,
I am an older voter and I AM savvy...too savvy to fall for Bill's song and dance and too savvy to vote for Hillary. Goodness, one would have to imagine that that bus they keep throwing voters under would be enormous by now to accomodate all of the action. Ironically, the bus of potential Clinton supporters is probably now smaller than a VW Beetle.
Jack,
I’m a 21 year old college student who proudly supports Barack Obama. If, in Bill Clinton’s eyes, I’m not savvy, then his wife didn’t deserve my vote in the first place. Its a shame that instead of convincing people to vote for Hillary, he’s basically saying, if you vote for Hillary, I get to be in the White House again!
Ed
West Lafayette, IN
Jack,
It is a shame you have a position that enables you to monopolize a conversation regarding the relative merits of Clinton/Obama.
You are so blatantly pro Obama it is ridiculous. I am 64 years old and I am not fooled by Obama's rhetoric. He is a wolf in sheeps' clothing. He does not fool older voters and will not be elected despite your endless campaigning for him.
Roger from small town Alabama
Jack the Q is "Will the real elitist please stand up"?
Jack,
My Husband (66) and I (64) fell hard for Obama!!! We are savvy, we are white, and we are in love with him!!!! We want to see a President we can be proud of again before we leave this earth. We love our country and we want the rest of the world to love our country again. Thank you Barack Obama!!!
Mel and Diane
Rural Americans Bullhead City, Arizona
What happens to the older voters who voted for Obama? What about the younger voters? Is he really saying that the majority of people that have voted in the democratic primaries are stupid since they voted for Obama? Well, I guess I am stupid then, because I will NEVER vote for someone who tells me I am too stupid to cast a vote
Yesterday, I was contacted by the Hillary campaign. What was odd about this that I live in Ohio and, as you know our primary is over. My only guess is that I live near the PA border in Mahoning County. I am a 100 % service connected disabled veteran, a Democrat asking me to Join the Veterans for Hillary. The call originated from Virginia.
My reply was to two fold. I told them that I hold a degree from Youngstown State in Religious Studies and that this war is an unjust war. I asked them what that meant. It is the basis of our international law on how we justify going to war. Just War Theology is what is what called and any good solid theologian can explain. The Senator’s analysis in the beginning of this war was incorrect of the war and we can not have those mistakes like that in a Commander- in Chief.
The other issue was Bosnia. As a Marine door gunner on helicopters in Vietnam I made landings into hostile fire. I wore the body armor and used some of it for a seat. Sometimes I witnessed the death of marines en route to the field hospital on my chopper when we flew medical evac missions and when we landed there was no little girl with flowers waiting for us. Here Bosnia “war story” was an insult to all who ever flew real combat missions in the defense of this country. To those who are recipients of aircrew wings, flight wings and air medals and the associated decorations, the Senator had no business being a wanabee. I was thanked for my service. The phone conversation ended. Bill Clinton is wrong when he says the older generation are for Hillary. We have been around the world too, Bill.
Now let's see...if you are young, you aren't savvy enough to recognize the failings of Barack Obama; if you are 60-ish you may get confused and tired and might not recognize misstatements. Does that mean that only middle-aged people should elect the president? Count me in as one of the 60-ish people who certainly is able to recognize political rhetoric when I hear it and who sees too much of it in the Clintons and who very energetically supports Barack Obama. The people, all of them, will decide for Obama despite the desperate rhetoric coming out of the Clinton campaign. Enough already.
Kitt
So, Bill Clinton has divided the electorate into two alll-encompassing categories - stupid and old. Gee, thanks, Bill. (And the next time you're tripped by a cane or a skateboard, you'll know why....)
Cathy
Riverside, CA
I disagree with the statement that older voters are too savvy to vote for Obama. Personally, I think that like most Americans prior to this election, name recognition and ignorance(not being stupid, just uninformed) is most of the reason Hilary Clinton is still receiving votes at all.
I have tried to stay as neutral as possible in my comments on here, but this is a smack in my face as a young voter. Bill is essentially saying that since I am young I am too immature to make an informed decision. In this new millenium the times are changing and the old status quo is not going to be around much longer. Technology has been changing the way running for office works, and that has been evidenced in this campaign season.
The reason a number of older voters still sides with Hilary(or John McCain) is because many are technologically illiterate(not all mind you, but a large majority). Others are afraid of change and would rather have someone who is tried and true in Washington politics. That is their opinion and they are entitled to that. Unfortunately, I believe that this election cycle and upcoming ones will change the face of politics and Washington is in for a big change over the next few years.
And finally, for the first time, my endorsement........
OBAMA '08
Dear Mr.Clinton, I think you were excellent as president, but you run the risk of sullying your legacy by overreaching your role in this campaign.
well Jack,
here we go again, you know if clintons just played the game nicely, instead of being monsters they would have a much much greater chance of winning, atleast in my book
anyways as far as the smart thing goes, i've been hearing and seeing all throughout the primary season that Obama takes the people who graduate from college and Clinton takes the vote of people who havent graduated from college
now i would generally thing people who graduate college would be more smarter and atleast would be able to make a smarter decission and that they have...
-Bobby, NY
Jack,
Not sure where I stand, should I be insulted by being labeled NOT savy. Or at 48 years old, am I an older American?
I for one am gitty with delight at the prospect of having the first president with integrity and inteligence in some 16 years with Senator Obama. I can not wait to say President Obama, and think with world is as pleased with the prosepct of change in command as I am.
This is just more of the Clinton's poor attempt to manipulate people. They are so full of themselves that they believe if they say something people will automatically think it is the gospel truth. I'm surprised they haven't asked us to bow down yet.
Jack,
To be honest with you I'm a HUGE Hillary supporter and I think Mr. Clinton was a very good president but I’m starting to consider him in the same light as John Edwards wife Elizabeth he is starting to hurt her instead of help her. She needs to put him on the shelf shut him up; He now needs to be seen not heard! She is already in trouble and he is starting to dig the whole she will have to jump in when this democratic primary is over.
Bill Clinton is right. We older voters know the difference between maturity and arrogance. Hillary is by far the more knowledgeable candidate and she will prevail. It is delusional to believe that Obama can win the general election.
Karol
Scottsdale, Arizona
Jack... One of the main reasons older voters are for Hillary over Obama, is because the older we become, the more resistant we are to change. So it's no surprise that older voters are resisting the only true candidate for change... Barack Obama.
Finally someone says it, and perhaps even the media will finally get it. I've been around too long to listen to rhetoric. I look at the candidates voting records and Obama has no record of voting that is consistent with "change". He also contradicts himself when he decries the old political tactics and then engages in them, often in the same sentence.
Fred McKee
Land O' Lakes, Fl.
Anyone who watched the singing contest "American Idol" last year and saw how all the "young" voters kept the "singer" Sanjaya in the contest almost until the end–even though Sanjaya ,though charismatic, couldn't sing one note in tune–probably agrees with Bill Clinton. Young voters seem to view and vote in the Presidential race no differently than they view and vote on "American Idol" –they are swayed more by charisma than actual ability. RB in PA
i don't know if older voter are too savvy to vote for obama but "change" is only a pipe dream considering the individuals we send to congress. we should examine congressional candidates more closely – that's where the problem lies.
elaine malcolm
columbia, missouri
Well, I'm 60 and my husband is 64 and we both support Barack Obama. We're involved in his campaign in NC and the cross-section of Obama supporters in our area is varied. Probably 60% are white, and over 65 and the most passionate support speech was recently delivered at our meeting by a white gentleman in his 80s who said he hadn't been this excited since the years of John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King. He had us all teary eyed...when he ended with, `This man is extraordinary and he can do great things for this country but he can only do that if we elect him'. Are we all mentally challenged? I may add that this gentleman and his wife are active in the campaign in voter registration and get out the vote, etc.
I am one of those older voters who are too smart to vote for Senator Clinton. She and Bill Clinton don;t know what telling the truth means. They both will say anything they think will get them support. Senator Obama will bring a refreshing change to the White House.
Jack,
Bill and HRC should be worrying about the Paul v. Clinton case coming up after the next 3 primaries (that CNN does not want to cover) rather than basically calling young voters not savvy . Who is the elitist, Bill?
I am middle-aged and I agree with what Bill said. Only the young and impressionable are sold on Obama's emptiness. He says a lot of nothing, has no plan, has not stated how he plans on fixing the economy or how he plans on correcting healthcare and/or bringing troops home. He just says he's going to do it. Ok...HOW? I am sorry, but I am voting Hillary and if for no other reason, I prefer having a great economy like we had when Clintons were in office before and I prefer having Bill as First Man/Husband of the White House versus that uppity, arrogant, hateful, PROUD-TO-BE-AN-AMERICAN-THIS-MINUTE Michelle Obama. Four years of her is fours years too long, too much. She needs to be knocked off her pedestal – she's not all that. To defend Bill, I would hope that if it were me in Hillary's situation, my husband would defend me too. What he's doing is a natural reaction – what we all do for spouse, children, family and friends.
History is full of people who have done fabulous things when younger than Obama. The world is also full of people who are older who are full of fear and cynicism and have lost hope. History might use a different word than savvy to describe older voters who prefer Clinton.
Jim, Craig, CO
So Obama gets pounced on for some comments, but yet Bill is allowed to speak like that among us 'young' voters? im 21 yrs old, i may not have the experience as some do, but that really does anger me when someone says that im naive or dumb enough to fall for rhetoric. Sorry Bill, but your wife would be a horrible president, doesnt take 50 years of life to see that.
I'm 48. I supported Bill Clinton through every single controversy. I kept good faith with him and his family and refused to allow family and friends to talk badly of him although I was smart enough to be confused by all the nuances to the scandals that happened back to back. But does age really have to do with reason? There is a reason why the voting age is where it is, although I've seen many kids who were more capable voters than adults. Young Americans should not be dismissed for their passion or the involvement in the political landscape. It is theirs to inherit, rife with the problems we are leaving them. They should not be discounted.
I am a woman. It will be my privilege to campaign and vote for a woman president when the right candidate comes along. But before I am a woman, I am an American.
I am white. But when that is your color and not what defines you it allows you to meet all kinds of people and accept them for who they are inside and notice in passing what color they are on the outside. It's the 21st century. We're past looking at people and judging them on their color. And for the few that haven't passed that hump yet, maybe Senator Obama with his integrity and composure can help the ones lagging behind.
I am educated. Enough to know what I want but not enough to be the articulate supporter I wish to be. My education allowed me to revisit Bill Clinton’s presidency with fresh and open eyes. I studied up on Senator Obama’s and Senator Clinton’s platforms (as well as Bill Richardson’s and John Edward’s) and made my own decision based on what I felt the candidate could do for our ailing nation and the world. Then I watched Senator Clinton take cheap shots over and over and watched my candidate shake it off and stay in for the long haul to take the win. And for all our sakes I HOPE he will. Because I believe that together we can do anything as a nation and united WE CAN overcome all the bickering and begin to heal this country.
How desperate does the Clinton's have to be to attack the young voters to get votes. In this digital age, new voters have access to the facts and can research truths in matter of a click. I do believe to disown young voters shows the true state of Hilary's out of touch bid for the white house. I do think one must embrace the age of the race, not 1999.
P.S.
We should set-up a time to show the Clintons how a camera works?
We do in America, to avoid sniper fire.
Michael,
Rockford, Illinois
If older voters are more likely to vote for Clinton than Obama, it can be because of any number of reasons. Women live longer than men. Maybe Hillary is just getting votes from the elderly because they are mostly women. Or it could be that the elderly are from a different era where African Americans weren't allowed to eat in the same restaurant much less be President. Maybe this exposes once again the fact that racism still exists in America, but also hope that the younger generation is different.
Over 75, supporting Obama. Senator Clinton should stop digging.
I'm 79 and I'm smart enough to know that young and older have more brains than he indicates. He needs to be out of the picture.
I find it insulting that Bill Clinton assumes that people that vot for Hillary are "smarter" than people who vote for Obama. According to the exit polls, Obama is ahead by quite a bit among people with a college education. I guess you don't need to be smart to get a college degree according to Bill. This guy is a cancer to Hillary!!
I do agree with Bill Clinton. I am older and smarter and have more to lose than a bunch of college kids that can't pay attention unless there is a keg in the room.
Come on Jack, taken in context, "we were a lot better off under Clinton" of course I agree. Jobs, opportunity, peace, health, and hope were all a LOT better under the last presidency. Taken out of context, older can be wiser and less susceptable to blue sky charisma. – Bob Nevans
Have no fear people, I am a Bill Clinton interperter. When he says older voters are more savvy what he really meant is that anyone younger than 50 is stupid.
I'm glad I could clarify that for everyone.
Hey, I'm such a 71 year old savvy women that I will vote for Obama. Hillary lost my trust with her 'dodging bullets' story. And then there's Bill who would live in the Whitehouse also.
Annie Oakley Monica Hillary Husband, you need to get rest. You know your Annie can't win over Obama; he is a machine who converts the negative attacks to his advantage. Not only that, he is the one, so I suggest you just chill. You have no idea about Economy, the only thing you good at is vote for war and we are not looking for any more war. We want to have peace in the world. We respect your service as a former president, and we very much appreciate your service and I am sure no one will question that. Thanks this note, just because you did not serve the country as Monica Lewinsky did too, it doesn't mean that yourAnnie Oakley is ready to lead this great country.
I admire your hopefulness and achieved this great deal. Don't make no mistake about this, it is not a game. We Americans are bitter with the government and we don’t' need another 4 more years in the white house from the Oakley Billary
Respect Mr Annie Oakley and much love…
I guess that makes me a stupid, latte-drinking white woman with a Master's degree who instead of formerly voting simply for Barack Obama is now also voting against this woefully entitled, say anything and do anything to get elected, self-obsessed pair of shameful ex-co-presidents.
I am voting for Barack Obama because he is brilliant and because I actually feel hopeful about the presidency again because of his candidacy.
And Billary can suck it. Print that, CNN.
I am proud to be one of the older voters, I can still recall all the "skullduggery" of the Clinton years, Oh yes and that big neon sign that still flashes IMPEACHMENT, and all the draft dodging that went on. Those years made the careers of Leno and Letterman.
It seems to me that Bill and Hilary still don't get it. Appealing to and exaulting the "Older Generation" at the expense of the alienating the younger ones are just no way to win favor with voters. Also, as Hilary and McCain share common personal attacks against Barack for exposing the truth about how folks feel in Pennsylvania, one has to wonder which party Hilary really represents?
Dave Shapiro
Anchorage, Alaska
I think the former Prez is killing his own legacy, before this race I was a passionate Clinton supporter ,But the tactics they have been using in this campaign have been dishonest and shameful and "BIG BILLY C" needs to sit down and shut up!!!
Yes! However, Obama is part of the "new age" movement, the "it's all about me" group – which is really NOT about age, but wisdom – or the lack thereof.
I fear for the future of this country if Obama and those of his religious persuasion get control of this country. Pastor Wright meant what he said about the United States and therefore, all of us – and Obama fully listens to him! By the way, does Obama Salute our National Flag?
So, now Obama supporters are too young or too stupid or residents of an unimportant state, or latte drinkers.
Unbelievable.
I'm so excited, we are on the brink of doing something special for ourselves, and our kids. We're taking our country back.
Go America, Go!!!!
Barack Obama 08
We've got his back!
I'm 70 years old and find it very amusing that Bill Clinton can read older people's minds. I'm not really believing his rhetoric or Hilliary's.
Not onlly are we too smart to buy Obama, it just makes sense trying to separate what's real and what isn't. mvslater, Palo Alto, CA
I'm 60 years old. My experience has taught me to vote for Obama. I'm too savvy to make the mistake of running the Clinton experiment again. Bill was enough.
Old Bill–there he goes again. As a 62-year-old voter, I know when I see twisted words. Obama said that many of the problems we face were around before Bush took office. He didn't say there is no difference between the Bush years and the Clinton years. Both Bill and Hillary seem to think we are too stupid to figure out when we are being misled. We are just savvy enough to be able to recognize the truth, and I guess since the Clintons don't value truth, they wouldn't understand that.
We are older voters (over 70) and we understand why a person our age should not be president. He's too old. We also understand that a candidate for president cannot raise 30 to 50 million dollars a month and not have a lot of it coming from special interest groups (read lobbyists). USA TODAY finally exposed Obama's sources of riches and guess what? Tens of millions of these dollars come from lobbyists. Why hasn't other media asked these questions.?
TERRY and JUDY
ERIE< PA
Jack my father is a 61 year old retired war veteran. He voted for Clinton in 1992 and is the biggest Obama supporter I know. Is President Clinton saying my Father is unintelligent for supporting Obama? We need new leadership to help repair our International image. Hillary will only continue to dodge sniper fire she invented in Bosnia.
I guess there's nothing wrong with Clinton calling the younger people unsavvy? No elitism there. And about small-town Pennsylvania, Clinton is absolutely right. How dare Obama claim that the Clinton era had some responsibility for their issues! After all, NAFTA didn't completely behead the area until after Clinton was out of office.
Older (over 60), well-educated, well-versed in politics, and with a good memory – this voter remembers well that during the Clinton administration, this country had a budget that was balanced, we had a surplus instead of a deficit, we had no major wars, soldiers were not being killed in unjust wars, the world opinion of the United States was very good, and despite the comments that seem to be written by Republicans and pro-Obama supporters, there were actually fewer "scandals" under Clinton than under Bush. The BIG difference was that there was a Republican controlled Congress and they were determined to bring Clinton down for anything – absolutely anything. There were Republicans who openly stated that their only aim in life was to bring Clinton down (Dan Burton). There were congresspeople who every day expressed their hatred of Clinton and didn't care who knew it. And, it is interesting, isn't it, that the only thing they ever were able to legally bring against him was lying about having an extra-marital relationship. Despite the millions that we taxpayers paid to Starr and that ilk, not another thing was found to be true (despite the vitriolic litany of the right-wing) including accusations of drug-smuggling, murder, theft, and traiterous actions. If you want honesty in remembrance, you have to remember the Repulicans that were brought down for the same charges they were trying to bringing against Clinton – extra-marital affairs, children born out of wedlock, illegal dealings with lobbiests (Gingrich, Burton, Livingston, Hyde, and eventually Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, etc. etc.). You'd think you anti-Clintonistas would be fair in your memories – not!!!!!
YES Most Americans of any age are far to smart to fall for the Obama speech of change. He will not be elected due to his questionable backkground.
Jack – you are far to "Bitter" when speaking of the Clintons – maybe you should be on Pope duty this week – you need a change in attitude!
Jack, I'm a 57 year old white woman. I have been a supporter of Barack Obama since day one. I resent Bill Clinton's comments about older Americans. Don't think for me, I can think for myself. The Clintons are so fake, old and young alike can see streight through them. Cathy Davis, Ohio
That's the pot calling the kettle beige! As an almost life-long, 61-yr. young Democrat, I say it's time for Bill to head into-the-sunset with his stupid remarks. This Summer, I started as an avid Hillary supporter here in Buffalo, but "saw the light" with personal attack-after-attack on Sen. Barack Obama by Bill & Hillary. We're WAY past time for-a-change no matter one's age! America & the world can't wait!
Dear Mr Cafferty,
As a European citizen living in DC, I'm amazed by the support the Clintons still have. She has evidently lied about the Bosnia trip, Penn was lobbying the Colombians behind her back, and she is completely unfair in her attacks on Obama (she sometimes looks like a Fox news-anchor).
Furthermore, we still don't know where all the money came from....
Let's just hope the American people make the right choice this time.
Bob
I have news for the former president, savvy seniors have time to listen to more than misleading sound bites [i,e, the SF flub], and get their news from many sources, which leads this independent voter to believe Obama is the best hope we have for the future.
I just hope the main stream media doesn't kill his chances by hyping all the trivia and mis-statements for the rest of the campaign.
B. Reese
The Clintons have forever lost me and a lot of other people who stood by them in the 90s. I border-line hate them now, and if Billary steals the nomination, I will not vote: period. If McCain wins, the blood -on the-hands will be shared by the Bush-Clinton families for all time. Please wake up America. Clean house of these Washington insiders!
By the way CNN: I agree with those who think you all do as much to create the news, as you do to promote it. The whole "bitter-gate" thing was perpetuated ad infinitum by you and your counterparts at the other networks. It's almost as if you can't stand to see positive, boring stories, so you run the "Breaking News" crawl everytime a candidate gets so much as a hang-nail. Shame on you CNN. Shame on you!!!
I watched Michelle Obama give a speech in Indianapolis today on cnn.com/live . I'm 61 years old.... I'm INSPIRED
Huh, I must be a prodigy then. I'm only thirty-something and I'm far too savvy to fall for either of these socialists.
When Hillary was spinning her "hunting with dad" story last week I could only think of sniper fire in Boania. Bottom line, older folk want their social security protected, to keep their homes, oil prices to drop (resulting in more affordable groceries) and a caring government. The current administration is so inept that it could screw up a dogs breakfast! I prefer Obama but will be voting democratic no matter who the nominee is.
Yes, Bill Clinton is right. I am 72 years old and am not falling for Obama's idealistic sermons. I judge him by his comments behind closed doors, his wife's comments on America, how he ended up with his house, and the pastor he admires so much. Regarding your comment about Bill Clinton defending his legacy is off track. Haven't you noticed that lately, Obama has been trashing the Clinton years to attack Hillary? He always says, "For over twenty years, no one has listened...etc.,etc."
Hillary is the best qualified and at least she doesn't try to come off as "Miss Goody Two Shoes" like Obama does. She has always been proud to be an American.
Lydia
hi jack; i wish that the remarks that bush and cheney made about why we invaded iraq were shown again and again. bush said that saddam tried to kill his dad while cheney was saying that iraq sat on one of the worlds richest oil supplies, and that is unacceptable. thanks dick johnson
68 yrs. Older voters like me are too WISE and too Smart to vote for Hillary!s rhetoric.
I don't know about age. But anyone with an IQ above 80 ought to see we don't need more of the same. We desperately need Obama!
Illinois
Here I am finally conviced that Obama is my candidate because he represents a new kind of politics.
Then this morning I read that he meet with Jewish Leaders in Philidelphia to bow at their feet and promise he will not cut aid to Israel under any conditions whatsoeever and that he will be submissive to them in every way possible.
In this he is no different from Hillary, MaCain, or any one else who wants to be President of the U.S. Same old politics as usually. I guess I'm going to stay home on election day. Barrack, you almost had me fooled.
Bernie,
Albuquerque, N.M.
I am 57 and voted for Bill Clinton each time he ran for President. I disagree with Obama regarding the similarity of the Bush and Clinton administration's. The Bush administration has been the worst travesty this country has experienced. I disagreed with some decisions that Bill made while in office as I will every other President in my life time. However, older voters are wise enough to also realize this election is not about Bill, and his legacy, but whether Hillary or Obama is the best candidate for President. I voted for Obama in the primary and expect to do so again in November when he faces John McCain. Dallas, TX
Bill sounds kind of elitist and out of touch.
I am 57 years old, from PA and remember the Clinton days very well. But the first memory that comes to mind when I think of them is an incident that happened during the "Monica episode". My sister and I were driving one day with her elementary school age son in the back seat. My sister and I were chatting when her son interjected with a question from the back seat. We both paused and listened. He asked "What is a blow job?". I turned around and asked where he heard this. He replied that it was on the radio about the President (Bill). This is what I think about when I think of Bill and Hilary. By the way, I did not vote for him both times. In hindsight I made the right decision. And I will not vote for her now. They need therapy, not the White House and our future.
Bill's right. This 58 year old is voting for McCain. Not the result Bill is looking for? The Clinton's cannot be trusted even though they're older and wiser.
Most of us loved the Clintons as President and Frist lady – I for one did. Unfortunately, Hillary is not Bill and does not represent change in '08 as Bill did in '92. She may be a smarter and better President than he but seems devisive, insincere and a fat cat.
Unless she has a truely positive definyning moment, stick a fork in her next Wednesday.
Definyning moments that lose an election are engraved and do not erase easily. Starting with JFK from the "cold" east coast v. Nixon the pale, sweaty Californian; Ford's pardon of Nixon; Dukakis in a tank; GHW Bush's "Read my lips" and "Kinder, gentler nation"; Dean's "YEAAAAHHHH!" and now;
Hilliary's "Duck of snipper fire"...get a fork!
Jack, I do not believe that anyone is smart enough to see through Obama. And the biased media will not help us see. Where was the coverage and out rage when he made a remark about "the typical white person"? If a white politician said anything about a typical black person, there would have been hell to pay and their career would have been over. I'd like to thank the media for electing my next president for me since I guess I am not capable of doing it myself. Maybe I'm just bitter because my town is somewhat rural.
Yes Jack, I do agree with Bill. I don't understand why any voter would vote for Obama. We don't know how many more shady characters will emerge from Obama's past. The media has stated that the Larry Sinclair story will probably come to the surface later in the election.
Jack,
Honestly I do agree with Bill Clinton, look how much better off we all were when Bill was in office. Bill Clinton is very perceptive and I actually believe his comments. Besides young voters rarely ever vote, so Barack may be terribly clueless to depend on thier vote. to take the presidency.
Cough, elitist cough.
I'm a 61 year old white woman and am totally for Obama and have been ever since he announced In February 2007!
Jack,
In 1992, I was baking cookies for five kids. It was a tough job, but someone had to do it. When Hillary Clinton made her sneering cookies and tea remark...she lost me forever. At age 54, I'm not senile. I still remember.
Annie Oakley Monica Hillary, you need to get rest. You know you can't win over Obama; he is a machine who converts the negative attacks to his advantage. Not only that, he is the one, so I suggest you just chill. You have no idea about Economy, the only thing you good at is vote for war and we are not looking for any more war. We want to have peace in the world. We respect your service as a former 1st Lady, and we very much appreciate your service and I am sure no one will question that. Thanks this note, just because you did not serve the country as Monica Lewinsky did too, it doesn't mean you are ready to lead this great country.
I admire your hopefulness and achieved this great deal. Don't make no mistake about this, it is not a game. We Americans are bitter with the government and we don’t' need another 4 more years in the white house.
Respect Mrs Annie Oakley and much love
The Clinton's are a couple with "hope" – not for the country, but for their
own gratification. Some interesting reports and analyses in Huffington Post, such as Sam Stein's article about 'Clinton and the Working Class
Whites in 1995: Screw Em", David Coleman's article about San Francisco fundraiser: "I Was There: What Obama Really Said about Pennsylvania"
The Washington Post reported today that "Poll Shows Erosion of Trust in Clinton". She has shown herself as untruthful to the country.
Jack,
At 32 I still consider myself a young voter. Frankly I'm insulted by President Clinton's implication that my support of Obama means that I'm less knowledgeable than Clinton supporters.
I have carefully weighed my decision as an independent voter to identify the candidate that best fits my position on the issues.
I'm also old enough to remember the Clinton years and I do not want to see a return to the scorched earth politicing that was characteristic of that era. Clinton is the reason that we've had to endure 4 years of Bush.
I am an obasever from Nederland.The older people who are not quick thinker are not immuned to Hallary manipulation.The only older people that want the stateusquo are those that refuse to believe the change that is knocking on the door of American politics.
Kevin
I am 55 years old and I am way too smart to be fooled by Hillary Clinton's lies and misconceptions and attempts at attacking Obama in order to take the heat off her Bosnia Bombing Escapade, her poor girl in the hospital story, her NAFTA record, their $800,000 in the bank due to NAFTA speeches, the Paul case....AND many of my "older" friends are also voting OBAMA. We are tired of hearing Hillary whine and whine and whine.
Jack thinks he got his 'I told you so' moment. There is a woman for the first time in American history that has a strong chance of being the Demacratic nominee and you think it's all about Bill Clinton's legacy?
Jack,
Do you ever get tired of bashing the Clintons? Just curious...I think maybe you are jealous and bitter.
I am glad to know that the younger voters are smart enough not to elect another Clinton.
Hi Jack,
My husband and I are both retired and remember the Clinton years well. In fact we both voted for Bill. But would not vote for him again and certainlyt not Hillery.
We remember White Water, the news paper reports of screaming and swearing at each other while residents of the White House, Hillary throwing a lamp at Bill and hitting a secret service agent also swearing at a secret service agent for not carring her groceries.
We also remember news paper reports that they looted the White house when they moved out and of course there was Travelgate and Monica,
We just think that it is time to bring back dignity and interegity to the White House. We need to improve our image in the world and the Clintons just dont qualify.
Obama has class and style aas well as intellegence. We are voting for him or McCain if Hillary gets the nomination.
Jack I consider you savvy - I just wonder who you are supporting?
I know that this old girl is behind Barack Obama all the way to the White House!!
Older voters may not say it out loud or admit to it, but they have not yet let go of the racism that was ingrained in them through their upbringing. In the sixties, white parents across the nation thought of blacks as lazy, stupid, dirty second-class citizens that needed to be kept away from polite company unless they were cooks, maids, butlers, drivers, etc. who were working in the household. My 80 year old Dad still thinks Muhammad Ali and Rev. Martin Luther King were shiftless no-goods. I am sad to say, many older voters just can't help clinging to the values that their loving parents taught them.
Jack,
I'm praying for our country, and for the Almighty to give us the wisdom to make a good choice in leaders.
I have made my choice, and I'm standing by him–Barack Obama.
Actually being as old an I am, I'm absolutely certain that if any politicians lips are moving, it's only because they like to hear themselves talk and try and convince othere'sthat they are smarter than them . Think it's too late to run for benevolent dictator? I'm 63.
67 years old - That makes me too savvy to be fooled by Hillary!!
I'm a 66 year old female retiree and a lifelong Democrat. I consider myself too savvy to fall for a lying wife with a cheating husband.