Would Clinton do anything to win?
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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Barack Obama's campaign suggests Hillary Clinton will do just about anything to win, and that includes destroying the Democratic Party.
The Politico reports that Obama's chief strategist David Axelrod calls Clinton "the ultimate Washington inside player" who keeps trying to change the rules:
"When they started off, it was all about delegates. Now that we have more delegates, it's all about the popular vote. And if that does not work out, they will probably challenge us to a game of cribbage to choose the nominee."
Another senior aide thinks Clinton is willing to destroy the party as long as she gets the nomination.
Clinton's campaign called these comments "unhelpful." Communications director Harold Wolfson says he doesn't think either side would destroy the party, that the primary process isn't over yet and we should "let democracy run its course."
At this point, the Clinton campaign is holding out hope that she can top Obama in the popular vote. And if that happens, she'll then try to convince superdelegates to give her the nomination. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton are calling on party leaders to look at more than just pledged delegate counts when they pick their nominee.
Meanwhile, a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll shows a majority of Democrats prefer Obama over Clinton: 52% want Obama, 45% prefer Clinton.
Here’s my question to you: Barack Obama’s campaign suggests Hillary Clinton would do anything to win, including destroying the party. Do you agree?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Carlos from Miami writes:
Yes. If she really cared for the party, she wouldn't have turned to negative campaigning knowing that it will hurt our chances in November. That fact alone says who she is, what she wants and how much she wants it.
Jim from Rome, Georgia writes:
She's running for president of the United States, not chairman of the tea party committee. I don't care whether "the party" is run through the ringer and hung out to dry as long the next president begins to fix some of this country's problems. "Party" be damned.
Marilyn from West Palm Beach, Florida writes:
The last few months have shown that the Clintons are willing to sell their legacy so Bill can have his do-over. If they'll do that to themselves, what won't they do to Obama? And all for nothing...Hillary's unelectable.
A. writes:
That's absurd. If Obama's camp is so worried that letting the democratic process run its course will split the party, he should drop out. Neither candidate can earn enough pledged delegates to nail this down before the convention.
Brian from Idaho writes:
Jack, Obviously this has already come true. The math shows that Clinton is ultimately going to have to rely on superdelegates to give her the nomination, and she hasn't withdrawn from the race. She intends to stay until the end, using any methods possible to coerce party insiders to overthrow the will of the people in the nomination battle.
Katie from Raleigh, North Carolina writes:
Although I don't find Hillary particularly pleasant, I do not believe she is dividing the party on purpose. I am sure that in her head, she is just being fair and reasonable. In her mind, she is just fighting to win. Somebody really needs to give her a kick in the pants. Is her entire campaign delusional? Why isn't somebody telling her how stigmatizing she has become?
Brett from New York writes:
Jack, I hope Hillary majored in miracles with Huckabee because that is what she is going to need!
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Yes Jack she has shown that in all of her negative, race baiting ads. Her comment that only she and John McCain were ready to be president will probably be made into a 327 attack ad...with her as the star. It's pathetic to see that glory is her only reason for running not the welfare of the United States.
Yes Hillary will do anything to win.She can't see that's she will not win this race.She should drop out and help the party to win the presidences.But know...she selfishes she rather put Mcann in the white house.Good job Hillary!
Hillary Clinton staying in the race, at this juncture, seems like a true bit of luck for the Democrats. Obama can not win in the general election after the Jeremiah Wright situation, fair or not. Hillary is the ONLY truly viable candidate now. Those who see her continuing as destroying the party better think about November.
So far, half of her criticism of Obama has been that people like him too much. Trying to kill off a source of inspiration and leadership because it is "her turn" will plunge voter turnout back to prior levels. How cynical can you get?
I think that besides being the "stars" and "darlings" of the Democratic party for years (much like the Bushes for the Republicans) the Clintons have basically had their own politcal ambitions first and foremost. Now their "party be damned " attitude will cost the Democrats the Presidency, and the American people the change they deserve. Politics of politcal/personal destruction? Read Hillary.
She is willing to win this nomination to keep the US from being destroyed.
Note the difference Jack.
The most divisive candidate is by far and away Obama and his FAMILY – which includes Rev. Wright.
Hillary is the smart choice – now.
Hillary Clinton has experience and is a proven leader. She fought for women rights in China. She helped curtail the conflict in Kosovo, and she has visited more than 80 countries. So would she do anything to win the nomination, including destroying the party...OH YEAH!
She (and Bill) have been acting like they have changed party allegiance and forgot to tell the elders at the DNC. Hillary believed this was her time for power and has shown that being 'self' annoited is always wise. Howard Dean has been very lax in his intervention into the 'kitchen sink' approach and will have to share the blame if the Democrat's go down in November. All about Hillary.
Absolutely! She will do anything to win! She is diverting our attention by bringing up the preacher situation, trying to validate her armed forces qualifications with press conferences, while ignoring her own "whitewater" dealings, "big" contribitor dealings, non-experience as first "lady", husbands "comments" and escapades, and spending our money on Entitlement fixed costs she wants to expand! Rusty
Sure she will and if you believe that I have some Obama land to sell you Jack. And I guess she made Wright preach those surmons too. Why don't the Obama party blame the real culprit here. I can't even blame the Obama campaign becaused they were blinded by his lies and dishonesty. Just blame Obama and his finger pointing wife.
What kind of ridiculous, bias question is this? Hillary is proving she is a fighter. I don't understand why so many Barack Obama supporters want to stop fighting. Partisianship is a fact of life and it involves fighting. If Barack is not up for that job, back out!
Toronto, Canada
You even found a way to blame Hillary for Obama's crisis. Why am I not surprised? The ones who are destroying our party now are those Obama diehards who are in denial or in a dream world about the certain fact that he is now completely unelectable in November.
Hillary might well do anything to win, but such a pyrrhic victory would be the fault of those who have for a year pushed a thoroughly unelctable candidate down our throats. It's becoming clear now how much damage has been done by this. I can only hope it's not too late to fix it.
I agree, she said Florida election was fare, even my 5 year old son believe it was not.
From everything I’ve seen in the last few months, after the voters explained to her that she doesn’t own the nomination, it certainly appears that way. Winning is important, but not if it destroys what you want to accomplish. If she continues to loose and continues to split the party, we may as well deposit McSame on the White House steps right now and save the money.
That is just political propaganda. Both these candidates want to win, but they have both pulled back when things get too heated. They both have a vested interest in the party's survival. Clinton, in particular, has spoken of Democratic unity many times.
Well lets see.. Hillary has no problem mocking her opponents appeal to many of the new voters, telling Democrats that McCain is more capable than their likely nominee, dragging out a contest which is getting increasingly more divisive, and is willing to go to court over a election that is all but over. Jack, what do you think?
Unfortunately, Obama's race does matter and will matter. Although he hasn't tauted himself as the "Black Candidate," Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, and, unfortunately, the media has portrayed him that way. It's sad that we can't get pass the issue of race. While we're killing and discriminating each other, the entire world is discriminating and killing Americans. We're just helping them do the job.
Senator Clinton's actions support that she would do just about anything to win even if that means destroying the Democratic party. She has claimed that McCain would make a better Commander In Chief thn Obama, She climed the Florida and Michigan primaries were fair when that is a joke, and she continues to flat out lie about Samantha Powers comments on what Obama would do in Iraq. Clinton is selfish and has no integrity and I would skip voting before I would vote for her!
Brian from Ontario Canada
I have been watching the race between Hillary and Barack very closely – it appears Hillary's camp spends a good percentage of their time on a daily basis generating new rumors and negative non fact based details on Barack Obama in attempts to discredit him... pretty sad when the strength of one’s campaign is to run down the competition at all costs – I guess it is true that desperate people do desperate things and Hillary seems very desperate.. voters should remember what the Clinton days were like and how the Clintons are always playing dirty politics, they can't be trusted!!
Jack, why would HIllary Clinton made a speech to coincide with Mr. Obama's speech on race on the same day. This was just another ploy to prevent him from having any impact in this election, and to divert attention away from Mr. Obama. She is a monster.
Time and time again, we see her cunning
and craftiness. Couldn't she wait to comment on Iraq on Thursday.
Thank you.?
yes
Watching Hillary state that she will bring home the troops once shes in office reminds me of the Clinton era, during which there were more military bases closed than at any other time in US history. Bring home the troops and shut down the bases! (theres our money for health care)
shes nevered served a day in her life and won't understand what military life is all about,
who's she kidding!
"Commander at Ease"!
Jack,
just look at the Clinton's actions, which were more like a LACK of actions, during the 2004 presidential campaign of John Kerry. they did little or nothing to help Kerry get elected. a Kerry victory would have been "Billary's" WORST NIGHTMARE because if Kerry was President right now he would be running for reelection and "Billary" would be on the outside looking in.
2004 showed that the Clinton's only care about THEMSELVES and could care less about the Democartic party OR the country.
No I do not agree. The Obama campaign is destroying itself and is blaming its competitor. The longer this race goes on the more time the American Public get to know the real Barrack Obama.
Thats the reason why Hillary has opened up a double digit lead in Pennsylvania.
YES, because here is a women who clearly can see that most of AMERICA wants Obama for the nominee, he clearly has more votes, states and more likable, He has played by the rules. Obama has defeated the odds that are against him, and he still is ahead in the poles. Clinton campaign has thrown everything they possibly could, then threw the race card. Jack, when you make a statement like “I think I should give up on the black vote” then a preacher comments surface from five years ago, YES she will single handedly destroy the democratic party hands down. How can I as women be proud to represent such a conniving, vindictive, greedy, women like her?
I don't think the party is that fragile. There have been much more contencious campaigns in the Republican and Democratic Parties in prior years. Maybe they lose an election, but they don't destroy the part.
Hillary would throw Bill under the bus to win.
Yes, she'd destroy the party in order to win – precisely because she wouldn't see it that way. After all the years of putting her ambitions second to Bill's, and the, at times, humiliating positions she's been in, she is driven by a need for emotional salvation. I suspect she believes if she can just proceed to the Presidency, it will all have been worth it. And she's not able to stop herself – the human drive to preserve one's ego is powerful, indeed.
Christine in Cleveland
Let's take it back a bit farther, shall we? Who encouraged Barack to run for president? Daschle, Kennedy, Kerry, etc. They encouraged the up and comer instead of telling him to wait a few years. Hillary is the person who was best qalified, and more suited for the present job, but the good old boys chose to promote a man instead of a woman.
So, let's put the blame where it should be, on those who divided the party from square one. Is this battle a surprise to anyone, I wonder?
Mary from Florida (where the votes still won't count!)
Anytime you reference a Republican as a superior candidate than someone from your own party, then yes Sen Clinton would destroy the party to win. Of course she would then stand back sound like a familiar TV character. "Did I do that?"
Eric
Atlanta GA
Of course she would Jack. She's already told the American people that she's a fighter. She is willing to go toe to toe with insurance companies for the people. What she forgot to mention is that she is willing to go toe to toe with the party for herself also,
Hillary will not only destroy the democratic party to win, she will sell out America to win. She is a legend in her own mind and thinks she is the best person to be president. She thinks her views are the best and only solutions to our problems and reflects the arrogance of GW Bush in this regard. She demonstrates all of the characteristics of a narriscistic personality and many, many people are beginning to see her for what she is. The media needs to stop saying the Clinton's never stop and can't be beaten. She has already been beaten and her persistence in claiming victory by twisting the facts needs to stop being supported by the media. We want real leadership, we want Barack Obama which is why he is winning this contest in every measurable way. Get over Hillary and get on with the REAL news, the majority of democrats are over Hillary and want to move on with what is important. Obama vs. McCain!
I don't feel that she is destroying anything. My candidate did not make it to the end so I am still listening to both and trying to make up my mind as to how I will vote in November. I listened to Barack Obama's speech this morning and began to understand where he is coming from. I also listened to Hilary Clinton this morning and she was making a lot of sense too. . . so here I am . . .still undecided.
Hillary would destroy the party and it would be done before she realizes it. It's part of the fight in her that is something to be admired. I only hope that when the time comes, when all the votes, cast within the DNC rules, are counted, the candidate who is behind will do the right and step aside. In a year when the platforms of the Democratic candidates are so close, we CANNOT allow ego to divide us.
Yes, I believe Hillary would do anything to win – even to destroy the party.
Do Americans really want another 8 more years of the Clintons in the White House after what they had had put the country through with all types of scandals. Do we remember the turmoil they caused. Let's ditch the Clintons and up for change.
Thank you.
I agree and hereby find all Anti-Obama bloggers and Hillary supporters GUILTY of the obstruction of Change and attempting to derail the message of Hope. I hereby sentence them to 8 years of SOLID EDUCATION under the Presidency of Barack Obama. At the end of eight years they can be released on probation. If they violate their probation by attacking any other candidate of Hope and Change they will be asked to repeat the words "YES WE CAN," one million times.
She will do anything to win for sure. Is not she the one who claimed she loaned her campaign 5 million dollars because she believes in the people’s voice! well, let those people know where this money came from first !
Columbus , Ohio
Yes, she will and almost has destroyed everything in her path. I certainly feel she and Bill Clinton have fanned the flames of racism tto the extent it takes us back to the brink of the '60's. They will literally stop at nothing until they win the White House or we voters stop them. .
The Clinton's appetite for control and power are a bigger concern to me right now than Obama's relationship to his pastor. We don't and can't know what is truely in Obama's heart.
If I had to make a choice today between the Clinton's apparant need for power and control or Obama's relatioship to his old black pastor my gut tells me to trust Obama.
I strongly agree because they are known to play dirty. I hope for the sake of the party and the country they will not go overboard because we need a democrat in the white house come 09 so we need a unified party.
Jack, are we talking about the same candidate that said "here's where the FUN begins" when asked about her campaign getting ugly out there. Or, is this the candidate that declared the Republican candidate qualified to be Commander in Chief, but Barack Obama was not qualified. Or, is the candidate that accused Barack Obama of disenfranchising the voters of Florida and Michigan because he followed the rules that EVERYONE agreed to. Or, is this the candidate that said that caucass'es are undemocratic and that 24 States don't count, because she did not win them. Or, is this the candidate that said that Barack Obama is not really against the war, because one of his advisers said that the pull out of the troops has to be done very carefully, instead of saying that regardless of the condition on the ground they will be withdrawn regardless of the consequences. Do I need to go on??? I'm sure you get the picture. Chicago, IL
What happened to the school of thought that anybody who wants this job and the power that comes with it THAT badly is automatically disqualified?
She scares the hell out of me. Her ambitions and intentions are beyond just being aggressive. She's proven every time she opens her mouth that will do or say anything. She regards this as a prize, not as a commitment to serve. She only wants the presidency of the United States because it would make her the first woman in history to achieve it. Sorry, Hill. That's the very reason this office should NEVER be given to you.
Yes, Hillary is only interested in winning. She thought this race was hers and that it would be delivered to her on a silver platter. When she found out that she had competition it was more than she accept.
She is a better master at twisting words, situations and events than Bill. She will say or do anything, including support the nominee for the other party, to get what she wants.
She says only she is Ready on Day One but she sure was not ready on day one to run a campaign. I am a 62 year old white woman that is embarrassed for my gender that Hillary is the what is put forward as the first woman to run for President.
The reverse is true-Obama has played the race card from the beginning and by suggesting, quite frequently, she should get out of the race early has been an attempt to thwart the democratic system.
As the race continues, more and more negatives about Obama surface making the outcome still unknown. It is very hard to disprove remarks like this one, which is the way Obama has played the game .Jack, doesn't it bother you that Obama kept Rev. Wright on his staff even after he realized that the Rev was making these inflammatory statements. You bet the reaction would have been different had it been Hillary going to a church with such an inflammatory pastor. Don't try to tell me Obama didn't know about them, 20 yrs in the same church.
I will only vote for someone that is willing to do anything to win. Are there Dems out there that believe that the Republicans aren't willing? We have already seen what happens to candidates that aren't willing to whatever it takes(i.e. Gore, Kerry, Mondale) and we have had 8 yrs. to see what the long term affect of that will be. If the Democratic party puts up another wimpy candidate in the general will there be anything left of this country by 2012? Another 4 yrs. of current policy and Mexico will have to build a fence to keep us out of their country.
Did you say Barack Obama will do anything???? Yes.
I have a higher opinion of Senator Clinton.
What I am beginning to resent more and more about your questions is that everyday for the last month I'm sure you have provided a question and sometimes two per day, that give Hillary haters a place to make comments that continue to divide your country.
If you respect Senator Obama and actually listen to what he has to say, this is the sort of thing he is against. The title of your own book, "It's Getting Ugly Out There" is what you are perpetuating. It's time to give the Hillary bashing a rest.
Judy
I don't think she' tearing the party apart. Seems, from the start of the race, the media had more "dirt" to throw in her direction. Obama pretty much had a clean slate. She was the favorite. As we all know, When you are on top, there is nowhere to go but down.
Yes, she can catch Obama in the delegate count, especially with the latest revelations about him. Let the primaries play out.
America is learning more about the election process with this race than ever before. Maybe the big CHANGE we need is in the way we pick our elected officials. We need to take special interests and big money out ot the equation.
Obama and the DNC are willing to do anything, even destroy the Democratic party by silencing millions of voters' voices in Florida and Michigan so that Obama can win without the inconvenient truth that DNC rules mustn't override Democratic principles that all 50 states voices must be heard for true Democracy. The DNC is willing to be, in a way, the suicide bomber of the Democratic Party if it means that Hillary Clinton's chances to be the Democratic nominee are destroyed in the process. Rb in PA
No,I do not think Hillary Clinton is willing to destroy the Democratric Party for the sake of her winning. She has been involved in public service and trying to make life better for minorities since her Yale days. Hillary is not about to sacrifice the National election and allow McSame move into the White House and destroy this country. The Clintons ,I believe will back Obama if he becomes the Party Nominee.
You bet I do. Clinton has done more to damage the party than anyone else in history. At least she will be remembered for something.
Tammie, MI
Hillary is more of a Democrat than Obama. The Obama maniacs
are crashing the Democratic Party and deserve to be stopped in their tracks. Go Hillary!
No I disagree. Hillary Cliton is a fighter no doubt about it, but to suggest she would go so far as to destroy the party to achieve her goals is a little bit out there. She is the party and to bring it down through selfish means would be to bring herself down with it.
Yes, I believe she would, because she and Bill decided a long time ago that this was their right to have this co-presidency, and I think she will do anything to have it.
If she cared anything about the party, she would drop out now to allow Barack Obama to start his campaign against McCain instead of fending off her made-up accusations.
After Obama's speech this morning, I don't see how anyone can stop him. He will unite us. By the way, I am a seventy year old white woman, so Hillary doesn't have all of us.
Despite her warrior reputation, I truly believe that Hillary Clinton loves this country and the Democratic party's principals.
Why is everyone acting like a fierce primary battle is something new or disdainful?
Jack
Yes I think the Clintons , both of them, will do almost anything to
get back to the white House. With 300 Million people in this country
why is it that we must keep a monopoly going between only a few
people who lead and deceive.
Bush's War and Bill's Impeachment should tell us its time for a
change to a new direction.
At 71 years old I finally want to see President who will support
my Grandchildren and country with honesty.
Hillary Clinton is not dividing the party–Obama is.
That's as apparent as the nose on your face Jack. The facts don't lie and the state of the Democratic party, at this point in history, attests to this fact. If Clinton is allowed to continue (screaming for some leadership Gore, Dean and Edwards here) then McCain will win in November not because he is the best man for the job but simply because the Democratic Party has taken a powder while we the people burned.
I think so. What does she or Bill care about the Dem Party? They have long since made millions because of their political ties. So if she loses, they still make millions. If she wins, they can claim a family dynasty. Either way, the fate of the Dem party doesn't help or hurt them at all.
No. I believe she would fight with everything in her being as would Senator Obama, because they both believe in the vision they have for this nation. And why should she abandon her dreams because the Obama’s camp wants to paint her negatively. The rules are that the candidate who reaches 2025 first wins the nomination, so why should she quit, I don’t think her parents raised her to be a quitter. Why didn’t I hear that Mike Huckabee was doing everything to win and destroying the Republican Party and he wasn’t even remotely as close to his opponent as Senator Clinton is to Senator Obama? Campaign on Hillary, I am a black woman and I support you not because I am a woman and not because I’m black, but because I believe in you.
Monica, Brooklyn, NY
To make a long story short .....YES!!!
I would say yes but Clinton supporters would call me "sexist" or somehow playing the "race card." I'm very willing to hear criticisms about Obama, and I do disagree with some of the ways his campaign has handled certain issues. But I can see the larger picture, and the larger candidate behind these small, all too human, mistakes. Clinton would make a good Democratic president, since she can win those Democratic "big" states that might as well make their state color officially blue. But Obama would make a great president for all parties. His official campaign color should be purple.
Yes she will and so will he!!!! that why they call it a race. You don't stop until it really over. There is no clear winner yet. Obama nor Clinton has been able to gain a big enough lead to call themself the Winner. Race goes on Damn the bad luck!!!!!
She won't see it that way, because according to her she is the true "great white hope" female version. She must win because no one else can do what she hasn't done in her 35 years.
What has she been waiting for...oh yeah the title.
Dear Jack,
The idea of any Democrat willing to destroy their own party for any reason is absurd. I think that the Hillary campaign is beginning to fracture the party, but they're not aware of it. On of the warning signs for me was when I saw Hillary declaring the words "Meet me in Ohio" at Obama while thrusting her arm at every word she pronounced. I felt I was watching a promo for a wrestling match, not a debate.
There is one sure thing: after the dust settles and all the smoke clears, the Democrats will undoubtedly have post-nomination scars. Sorry to tell you Jack, but it's getting ugly out there.
I have great respect for Sen. Clinton, and her fight for the presidency. That being said, she really makes it seem as though she will do anything to win, including destroying the party. If she hasn't noticed, John McCain is taking diligent notes. When she says Obama lacks experience, McCain says Obama lacks experience. When Clinton says Obama is all talk and no action, McCain says Obama only has great speeches. Everytime I hear McCain speak, I feel like I'm experiencing deja vu. The worse blow Clinton could have hit Obama with, is saying that McCain would be more fit to run the country than her fellow democrat. The man who wants to keep us in Iraq for 100 years and supports the Bush tax cuts, is better fit to run our country. Interesting.
Definitely YES! Hillary is incredibly power hungry. I always thought that I'd vote, for a woman, who ran for president. But, Obama has my vote.
60, white and disabled in Peoria, Illinois. I don't know why everyone says that older white women are for Hillary. Only Barack understand us!
Sure she will and if you believe that I have some Obama land to sell you Jack. I guess she made Wright preach those sermons too. Why don't the Obama party blame the real culprit here. I can't even blame the Obama campaign because they were blinded by his lies and dishonesty. Just blame Obama and his finger pointing wife.
I strongly disagree. Hillary loves her country and loves the Democratic party. She strongly feels she is the best candidate and is fighting to win. Obama dishes as much as he claims he gets. Quit being so one sided!
Rochester, NY
Yes, I do believe Hillary would do anything to win even if it means destroying the party. Nothing seems to matter to her except becoming president. She just keeps picking and dividing. She seems to think she is entitled to be president. I do not.
I don't want to return to the drama and division of the Clinton years. I am ready for the 28 years of having a Bush or Clinton in the White house to end. I am hoping the partisan hysteria leaves the White House with them.
Barack Obama wants to run a campaign to bring us together, but the Clintons and the media keep pointing out racial and gender differences. We need to be talking about the issues in this nation–the economy, health care, and especially the war as the anniversary of the Bush War is this week.
No way, I am not going to let senile old McSame run this country into the ground like the current chimp in office has. We need an Democrat in the White House this time and I don't care if its Hillary or Obama. This country can't handle another four years of an Republican dictatorship. Come on Dems, unite and send John McCain back to the nursing home which he belongs in.
Yes, Hillary clearly will do anything to win. She and Bill only care about themselves. They crave power and harbor the delusional belief that what is good for them is also good for the country. The Clintons also believe, correcrly I fear, that the American people are so ignorant, hateful and fearful that they won't hold her sleazy campaign tactics against her in November if she wins the nomination. The Democratic Party stands in the way of the Clintons' addict-like quest for power and they will desroy it to get what they want.
Hillary Clinton will do anything and everything to obtain her one objective and that is to be the President of the U.S. If it means destroying the Democratic party, so be it. Using surrogates to throw dirt is a pattern of the Clintons. They will throw out anything and whatever sticks, truth or not, she will do it.
Hopefully the voters will see through her political ambitions and see the truth behind Hillary Clinton and look elsewhere for their candidate in the Democratic party.
Yes.
I'm sure she doesn't see it that way. In her mind, she probably thinks she is saving the party from itself. Unfortunately, that type of top-down thinking and gamesmanship is the very reason people turn away from her. If she was really running on her history and experience she'd release her records like Obama did.
No, I don't think she is out to destroy the democratic party, Hillary is one of the few true party faithful. The only ones trying to destroy the party are the news media and the good old boys network like Kerry & Kenndy, not really caring what the people want. But jumping on the band wagon of Obama before their state had a chance to do their primary.
Well boy's get over it and get use to it . Hillary is here and come January of 2009 You will be calling her President.
He is right on target. Hillary Clinton will do [any] and [everything] to achieve her nomination. Her passion for destruction of Obama and the Democratic Party is a creative passion. Her destructive character lives from the feeling, not that life is worth living if she does not receive the nomination, but that suicide is not worth the trouble.
Yes Jack, I believe Hillary will do anything to win. I believe she will hide her records at the White House that would prove or disprove just how much experience she does or does not have. She will keep the Clintons Tax Records a secret to protect her from having to answer who she is beholding to for all the money they have gathered since their occupancy of the White House. She will destroy anything or anyone who gets in her way. Heaven help Bill if he steps out of line again. Heaven help the Country if she gets elected. I believe she has one loyality and that is not to the United States of America or its people, its to herself and her ambition.
Yes, staying on at this point is to destroy the democrates chances so that she can run again in four years.
Just Obama running scared, Jack! How come you don't report this as "Negative Campaigning", that's what it is when you have no experience or specific plans to prove your points!
Jack, with all due respect, why is every Clinton question of the hour steeped in negativity? Your previous Obama question was phrased to show your admiration for him. If you want to endorse Obama please feel free to exercise your freedom of speech, but don't think of new ways to ask people, how evil is Hillary 5 days a week until this race is over.
Obama gave today's speech because he had to , not because he wanted to. He said he wrote MOST of the speech not the entire thing. If you want to report, please report all the facts.
I do not believe so. She is playing the politics to win. That's the name of the game for all three.
California
I definitely agree Hillary is willing to destroy the party to win. If it happens, I too believe McCain will be our next president. There are too many passionate supporters of both Obama and Hillary who are becoming more and more bitter as this contest drags on. Hillary is status quo for me and because I can remember the extreme partisanship during the Clinton years, the scandals, the Clinton haters, I would have to say McCain would be the better choice. Nothing but Clinton enemies 24/7 will not be good for the country.
She would do anything to win, I agree. Its all part of her big plan. She is nominated, is elected as president , runs again, she gives up the white house in 8 years but only if her daughter(who is of age now is the new president) We are in for the long haul Jack, You can count on that. This woman does not know the meaning of ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
No more than I think that Obama supporters are willing to take any opportunity to tarnish Clinton. Saying that she would do anything to win is selfserving and unworthy.
Yes, I agree. I will vote for Rep. if Clintons get nomination. My 10 years old niece said: Hillary is not her role model because she plays a dirties politic game ever; also she belittle Obama that remind her (my niece) of the old history: Black people must sit in the back of the bus, must go to where the sign said: black only. She could not believe it is still happen in 2008.
Why do you keep carrying water for Obama?
Thank God Hillary is still in the race, Hill Yes!
Yes. You only have to look at her plastic smile!!!!
I guess the answer to that question depends on which candidate you back. Reverse the question: Would Barack do anything to win the nomination? I believe the answer in both cases is a resounding, "YES!"
no she is not,when she tells the truth about obama youll twist it to help obama i hope the news wakes up and quits letting obama play the race card on every thing and blame the clintons,if not as a life time democrat i hope the american people elect john mc cain, vickie louisiana
I've been saying since the campaigning started that Sen. Clinton should not be running for President. You all are late in catching up to me. As far as Sen. Clinton wrecking the Democratic Party, I think Dr. Howard Dean has more to answer for than Sen. Clinton.
Patricia
Palmdale, Ca.
Not destroy it just a little damage,but Dean and the dnc will cause more ill will if they cant fix the michigan and florida problem;
There is no question about it. The Clintons have showed time and again they will do anything to get and maintain a position of power. You can recap forever how they have used and misused friends and foes to advance personally. They would rather distroy the party than have it select someone else. It's the classic "if you don't want to play my way, I'm taking my toys and going home."
I hope she does destroy the party. Then we can get to work on destroying the republicans. Once these two relics are out of the way the country can try a new direction instead the same ones we've tried for years. With our choices being clinton, obama, and McCain, I can honestly say that I'm eager to hear what Nader has to say about things. After the democrats win in November and screw things up, maybe america will finally be ready for a third party.
I do agree. If siding with McCain over a fellow democrat, throwing out false information to the people and the media, withholding information from the public and scandals dating back as far as a decade ago isn't indication enough then I don't know what is. She's a very vindictive person as her husband is and they'll do anything to get what they feel the deserve.
She has and she will. And she will probably win. And I shall probably move to Canada.
For the past 140 years or longer, the lily whites have played on the average/poor white people fears, to keep the African Americans at bay.
In this race, the Clinton Camp (Bill) have compared Obama to Jesse Jackson, whom some whites truly don't like. The Clinton Camp (Ferraro) reminded us of affirmative action, which some whites truly believe, gives an African American a distinct advantage.
Of course this whole Rev. thing could be from many different people such as the GOP, but clearly it helps the Clintons.
In spite of all this, the democrats will win in November, based on a deteriorating economy. The GOP's only selling point is the Iraq war, which is still very much in doubt.
Harry
Jack, I'm a 50 year old white female who would love nothing more than to be able to vote for a female. But, it begins to appear as if Ms. Clinton is about winning for herself without regard for the party or the people of the the party. For me, the ever changing chameleon comes to mind. I'll be voting for Obama.
It certainly does appear that way, given that she'd clearly rather endorse a Republican than leave gracefully. Either that or she really IS a Republican.
Jack,
I was a Hillary supporter for years, but she has been a complete disappointment to me in this election. She insults the intelligence of the American people by trying to hide her financial records,earmarks and activites as First Lady. The tactics of the Clinton campaign have been expressly calculatd to create division, reminiscent of the polarizaton seen during the Clinton Administration. During Clinton's impeachment, I thought that the Republicans were divisive, but I have come to realize that the Clintons are the common denominator when there is anger, strife and finger pointing. But as HRC aptly said, this is when it gets fun for her. She could care less about creating a better world... Hillary Clinton is about her own power and the continual feathering of her own nest.
A few months ago I would have said no. That was before she realized Obama was a real threat. Now, her campaign has become not just negative, but downright sleazy in its tactics and I don't think she cares how much ammunition she gives John McCain. She is like the obsessed coach who wants to WIN WIN WIN!!!! No matter what!!! Even if she has to shoot the coach of the opposing team to get a break. I'd hate to see her anywhere NEAR the red phone on a day when she's not getting her way.
Btw, I don't think she expected to be called out for her actions recently, which is probably why she is trying to appear so very caaaaalm and logical in her most recent speeches. Most importantly, I don't think she realizes how much it angers Obama supporters who see her divisivenss for what is is. If she can't get the nomination, she will attempt not only to damage Obama now, but if he wins the white house. I can see her and Bill being a subversive force against anything Obama tries to accomplish in the white house so she can run for office again in 2012. Hillary is known to turn on members of her own party if she doesn't get carte blanche control (remember the health care thing during Bill's time in office? or to hear her tell it, when she controlled the world?).
Jack, I do belive that Senator Clinton would do anything to win. Her campaign is becoming increasingly negative and increasingly desperate after every loss she sustains. I believe what we have seen is only a glimpse of the monster that is Senator Clinton.
I think she is out for #1 and it's win at all costs even if it divides the party. She is full of contradictions and with each state she loses in makes the comment that those states weren't that important. As a person who lives in one of those states, that alone put my ire up. It seems all that is important to Senator Clinton is her. It is as if we of the class she says she supports only matter when our votes go her way. Otherwise it's on the next "Big" state and the devil take the small ones.
The real Hillary came out during this Democratic nomination campaign. Now, I believe she will do anything to win, including dividing the Democratic party
Yes. Senator Clinton seems bent on winning the nomination, regardless of the damage caused to the Democratic Party. While the Republicans have their nominee, Senator Clinton prolongs the race to the Democratic Presidential nomination, giving Senator McCain more ammunition for the general election in November.
It's beginning to sound like desparation to me. I understand that her campaign is calling the claim "unhelpful". But to whom? And what does that mean? Is that another non-denial denial? I'm beginning to think that we are going to be stuck (again) with three "evil of three lessers".
From what I have heard from the Clinton campaign, Florida and Michigan should be allowed to be seated, therefore I have to assume that the rules set up don't count. This rule was known at the start of the campaigns.
Isn't that the government we have now?
What rules and/or laws count under this administration? Anything can be changed or ignored by a signing statement. If that is true, why have a Congress or Justice system? What purpose do they serve if they are to be ignored? What purpose are the rules if they can be ignored? If they are unjust, rules should be changed, but there is a proper way to do this and it is fair to all, not just because your name is Clinton.
It doesn't matter what the truth of this matter is, Jack. Perception is reality, and to the eyes fixed on this historic race, Hillary would do anything to be president. Pander? Check. Argue to break rules that hurt her and keep the ones that don't? Check. Fan the flames of hurtful rumors? Check. Let racist ideas stay out in the press for a little while just to remind us that Obama isn't white? Check. Pathetic.
Hillary would sell her soul to be president. If we ever get to see her tax returns, we may find out she already has.
" I had to destroy the village to save it. " Can we get this over with.
Hiram Rapids, Ohio
No. I believe she would fight with everything in her being as would Senator Obama, because they both believe in the vision they have for this nation. And why should she abandon her dreams because the Obama’s camp wants to paint her negatively. The rules are that the candidate who reaches 2025 first wins the nomination, so why should she quit, I don’t think her parents raised her to be a quitter. Why didn’t I hear that Mike Huckabee was doing everything to win and destroying the Republican Party and he wasn’t even remotely as close to his opponent as Senator Clinton is to Senator Obama? Campaign on Hillary, I am a black woman and I support you not because I am a woman and not because I’m black, but because I believe in you.
Monica, Brooklyn, NY
jack,
yes. its obvious to anyone who has been watching that she has continued to try to move the target in favor of one she can realistically reach. shes tried to belittle the states she's failed to win, shes talked about the importance of the delegate race until it became clear she cannot win it, and she's even tried to argue that McCain is better prepared than Obama to be president. In doing so she's broken every cardinal rule of party politics: alienate voters, try to change the rules, and assist the other party. what more do you need to know?
Absolutely. At this point I am not eliminating the posibility of Hillary winning the nomination. Afterall, she is the one inviting superdelegates for cocktails at her mansion, and devoted republicans are stratigically voting for her now in the primary,as they did in Texas. Do I think this will cost the presidency to the democrats? There is a great chance it will. Let's get real. The republicans have been preparing to destroy Hillary in the general election, who has plenty of dirt on herself even if we don't talk about it now, and that is why they are hoping she is the democratic nominee. In addition, that experience she claims to have as first lady is not going to fly with McCain because he does have a 50+ years of experience in public service, as a pilot, senator,etc. When you put all this together there is no chance in my mind that the longer she stays in the race, she is doing nothing but destroy the party's real chance to have a democrat president.
winning is everything to the clintons. money, power greed. if they were smart they would bow out gracefully for the sake of the party, the white house and the american people. hillary feels she's got something to prove. but she is a clinton which means she's in it forever. she's not going anywhere jack! especially now that republicans are voting for her so they can beat her in november. someone needs to step in and stop this debacle!!!!
Jack,
I think the only thing that matters to Hillary Clinton is her own personal ambition. If she can't get the nomination, she's willing to tear Obama down so badly that McCain will win in November. By doing that, she will run again in 2012 using the theme of "I told you Obama couldn't win". Why else would she continue running her negative campaign knowing full well that she can't catch him in pledged delegates?
Mike
Tucker, GA
cmon...is this a rhetorical question?...i hope so, b/c we all know the answer to this one...she will do and say anything to get what she wants...i don't trust a single word that comes out of her mouth...
Absolutely. She has changed her tactics so many times during this campaign. She is the Queen of Spin. Lik him or not, Obama speaks with far more honesty than Hillary Clinton. He is genuine, while she plays games. Do we want someone straightforward and honest in the White House or someone that changes her tune every single week?
If you have to hide your records and redesign your campaign on a weekly basis you aren't the best choice for president. Even if you are well connected.
Yes. Next question.
Jack, she scares me. I've seen fake smiles before with a very mean person underneath, but she has it down to a science. Yes, I believe she would do anything to win & totally destroy anything that stands in her way. Is that what everyone wants for the next President?
She and Bill have used every trick in the book and then some. Actions speak louder than words!
She doesn't think she's ruining the party. She thinks she IS the party. The Democrats would just fade away if it weren't for the mighty Clintons holding their hands and leading them to the future. Doesn't anyone remember ANY of the scandals that took place with the Clintons before, during, and after Bill's presidency? Monica Lewinsky, of course. That Whitewater guy that shot himself in the back ... twice? Etc., etc. Oh well, if she's the nominee and wins the general election, at least we'll have more years of tabloid fodder to keep us busy. All Hail the King and Queen of America. The Clintons. Oh ... King Hillary, that is. ;o)
Jack, Unfortunately in my heart of hearts I do believe that Hillary Clinton will do whatever she deems necessary to win. From dirty politics to a disregard for the democratic party as a whole. I see in her "politics as usual".
Bob
Rome NY
Hmmm, let's see.
Obama is ahead by over 100 delegates, and she wants to make him HER running mate.
Obama wins all the small states by a wide margin, because she's too high and mighty to campaign in small states. So she whines about that.
She develops the 3AM commercial, which smacks of fearmongering, and then Obama counters with a similar ad, and she complains that he's going negative.
My message to Hillary Clinton (at the risk of plagiarizing Tom Hanks in "A League of Their Own",)
There's no crying in politics!!
Bigger question is , would Obama do anything to win?
Jack, I think Sen Clinton has already started to do all she can to get nominated which has included destroying the Democratic Party. She is a shrewed and polished politician, but that is not what we need for a president. I interested in the politics of the country, but the campaign season sickens me, because it shows how shallow and uncaring people can be. Sen Clinton was the first to start this mess. Now the DNC is looking irratic and unorganized. She made a big deal out of Florida and Michigan, the Obama media attention (which I thought was fair), she praised McCain, and she keeps talking about Obama speeches...when all she is doing is giving SPEECHES.. Go figure.
This just makes me sad. I have always admired the Clintons. Not anymore. I think that she really will do anything to get the nomination, and in doing so will so weaken the party thus for handing over the election to McCain. Sad.
There is no doubt she would do anything to win. She will hurt her nation and her party all in the name of tough politics to and progressing her place in history. That i swhere we she leave her.
Give it a rest Obama camp. I am sick and tired of hearing about that crap. If Hillary does not win Mccain will. Their are five votes here with me, ready to vote for Hillary if she is the nominee, or five votes for Mccain if Obama is the Nominee. Also, where did CNN get this so called poll of most Americans prefer Obama over Clinton? I certainly did not cast a vote in that.
Hillary 08!!!
Yes, I believe Hillary will do anything. As the media pundits like to say "she keeps moving the goal posts." She is tearing the party apart. If Obama has the most delegates at the end of all this, (which it appears he will) she and Bill will strong arm the superdelegates and pull in every favor until they go her way.
I get tired of this argument. Wouldn't most people in any contest do about anything (with in reason) to win? Of course they would. Do you want in your president a fighter, or someone who lays down at the sign of any adversity?
Btw there is other polls showing Hillary ahead of Obama.
Jack,
it sure looks like it, does the clinton camp really beleive that if somehow she wrangles the nomination from obama that the obama supporters will be willing to forgive or forget and vote for her is just plain nuts, some will simply vote for mccain, but i have heard some will not only do that, but also switch parties either to republican or the independents, if this were to happen it just might be the beginning of the end to the democratic party as we know it,
Wait a minute here! You folks in the media are the people who are trying to change the game. We here story after story about "Obama getting the most pledged delegates, but losing because of superdelegates." Superdelegates are a part of the established rules. After it is all said and done, If Obama fails to reach the nessesary delegate count to clinch the nomination (2,024) and he is trailing in the popular vote count, I would consider it the superdelegates responsibilty to select Hillary Clinton as our nominee. I would expect the same goes for Hillary if she is trailing in the popular vote in the end. This is not changing the game. This is is putting people's voices over unelected and unevenly selected delegates.
Jack,
Thank God she didn't drop out before the Texas and Ohio primaries. She is doing what she needs to do. She is on the campaign trail talking about the issues and solutions. After this fiasco with Obama we need her more than ever.
I am tired of this same old song. Hillary Clinton certainly wants to win. So does Senator Obama. Every time the Clinton campaign points out a difference between she and Senator Obama, she is called divisive, or she is playing the race card, or she is "throwing the kitchen sink". The truth of the matter is that Senator Obama's campaign has done the same and more, but not been called on their tactics. Misleading brochures sent of by the Obama camp. Calling for last years tax records, when only last 2 years have been released by Senator Obama. Calling for the voluminous documents from her years as First Lady, but stating he has nothing from his years in the Illinois senate. There is a continuing double standard at work here. One to demonize Hillary Clinton, while trying to elevate the stature of Senator Obama. There is a bias in the media. There is a tendency to "bend over backwards" with regard to Senator Obama.
YES
Without a doubt! What I wonder is when we are going to start comparing her to Bush with this "win at all costs", "by any means necessary", "all's fair in love and politics" attitude. I don't know which of the advisors she's listening to this week, if any, but someone needs to be the voice of reason in this campaign before she passes the point of no return.
There is no doubt she would do anything to win. She will hurt her nation and her party all in the name of tough politics and progressing her place in history. That is where we she leave her.
Can there be any question? She mathematically cannot win without a landslide superdelegate move to elect her, which would destroy the democratic party at its core. Seemingly she doesn't care about that, she'd rather grasp at straws and risk her party's life rather than concede that she is not the best candidate.
It does not matter what the polls say. Both canditates will go all out to try to destroy each other. Every time something goes wrong with one side they blame the other. Hillary is no worse than Obama. He is also out to destroy her. The speech today was just another political speech with out saying anything but "Poor Me"
Jack anyone that believes that they are the only one capable to save their beloved country will do anything to win. Unfortunitly it's already happened. The mess over Florida et cetra is going to give McCain the win; and next time around Hillery will lose. Only a Hillary – Obama ticket now, can stop McCain from winning 2 terms and neither are big enough to pull together.
Sadly enough, and totally on the button. And while I'm at it, It is obvious that CNN is bias towards Hillary and McCain.
Jack,
Your question was answered nearly eight years ago. Scandals, genocide in Rwanda, impeachment and Clinton obfuscation set the stage for Gore's defeat. The Clinton time in the White House soured the country on Democrats. How else could an oaf like Bush gain the presidency. Billary destroyed the Democratic party then and the latest round is merely an encore.
Of course I agree! In the last debate, she said so herself. Hillary is turning over every rock to find an edge to beat Obama. I think she has shown through her character as she handles the race that she will do whatever she has to in order to win.
I have no doubt that the campaigners for Hillary Clinton will do what ever they can to win. I also believe that she will 'approve this action' but have a way to deny that she was involved. Brings back memories of the 'Plumbers' and 'CREEP'.
We do not need 32 years of only two famlies being in the top positions of this country.
Power Monger, Power Monger, Power Monger! That's her only reason to keep this charade going. She will continue until the convention just to prove a point. By then Democrates will be so divided McCain will win and we will spend at least the next 4 years as we have the last 8. After the last 8 miserable years, Canada, England or France with free health care is looking pretty good to me.
Lori, Battle Creek, MI
Yes, she would - and is - in case some folks haven't been paying attention. The thing is, she is capable of doing even more damage to the Democratic Party than she has already, and will likely have the opportunity to do just that since no on seems able to convince her that it is not about her ego, but about unity, and to "get the hell out of Dodge."
I am a Clinton supporter and think she probably would. But I think a lot of politicians would also. As we learn more about Obama, he may need to adopt that same tactic.
Yes Jack, Hillary has demonstrated by her negative campaign that she will do anything to win! She really doesn't care about the Democratic Party! Even if her campaign splits the Party and results in a Republican victory in the general election!
Jack,
Obviously this has already come true. The math shows that Clinton is ultimately going to have to rely on superdelegates to give her the nomination, and she hasn't withdrawn from the race. She intends to stay until the end, using any methods possible to coerce party insiders to overthrow the will of the people in the nomination battle.
We have also seen her do anything to win in her approach to each contest. She overlooks the ones she loses, sometimes not even congratulating Obama for his victories, and then moves on to the next state where she has a natural advantage, which also seems to make that state infinitely more important in the general election run in November. Clinton is not interested in representing people in states like Wyoming, Alaska or my home state of Idaho because we went for Obama in the nomination battle and will likely go for McCain in November.
According to Hillary, the only valid Americans and even the only valid Democrats are those that live in the Democratic states that chose her. I will never support a candidate that subscribes to this divide and conquer mentality.
Brian
Idaho
James....turns out, both you AND your 5-year old son have the possibility of being wrong. So that doesn't enhance your flawed argument. As for Michigan and Florida, is everyone losing sight that the voices in those states HAVE A RIGHT TO BE HEARD like every other person who lives in the other 48 states in this country? Stop your Obama bias, please.
I have never trusted Hillary Clinton, and her campaign thus far has reinforced all of my reservations. She already showed us she had no respect for the rules of democracy when she stayed on the ballot in Michigan, and her campaigning techniques in Ohio were just appalling. I think she IS doing anything she can to win, and she already has divided the party to the point that many are saying they will not even vote if their candidate does not get the nomination.
Of course Barack Obama's campaign would suggest this, and only you would have the gall to ask this lop-sided question!
Clearly it is in the best interests of the Obama campaign to hi-jack this process as quickly as they can. With each passing day the voters see more and more of Mr. Obama's true self, and they don't want that to continue. As such they will stop at nothing and will continue to call Hillary every low down name they can think of. Should they succeed, the tragedy and "destruction" of the party will come in the form of us giving the White House to McCain and it will be at the hand of Barack Obama, not Hillary Clinton.
I call this a bunch of baloney, Jack. Hillary won't quit – she'll see it through and her supporters are behind her 100%! She's not destroying the party – but the Obama campaign has adopted the attitude that if you say it long enough and loud enough maybe you can get people to believe you... yeah, just like I believe Obama really did not know about the horrible WORDS of his spiritual advisor.
Hillary Clinton is the definition of conventional politics. She would do better if she listened to her heart and was more responsible to her intellect. Sometimes power and the ways and means to get it outweigh doing the right thing.
Jack, I wholly believe that is exactly what shes doing now.She has her own agenda whtch doesnt include the welfare of the nation at all it simply is to get her elected and then let the chips fall where they may, she proved that when she moved her operations to New York so she could elected there she never would have been elected in Arkansas or Illinois thats why she chose NY they really didnt know her there or her past with whitewater.
It appears so. Reading her speech a few weeks ago calling the Michigan vote fair and should be counted is enough to show how Clinton is willing to go to win. I think only a handful of people feel that the Michigan vote was fair enough to be counted as is, and they're all in the Clinton camp.
Mathematically, her only chance to win is to convince superdelegates to go her way, and away from the popular vote and pledged delegates, or to try to sway pledged delegates. That fight will disenfranchise voters nationally more than the MI or FL situation will.
yeah i have to say I agree, if she is willing to cling to a a hope no matter how slim, then who is to say what she wouldn't do.
first it was about delegates, then it was about sup..err I mean automatic delegates now?
now its about the Big states and popular vote,
because we in the democratic party only REALLY care about 17 states, the rest are all red states, or have to many black people, or what not so they don't count.
Do we need to even ask this question Please, Look at how she has been running her campaign. Throwing the rock hidind her hand and then being so secretive. Who wants someone in the White House that they CAN'T TRUST!!
Jack, the Clinton's have already done anything, to get elected. That's a given. Hillary wants the presidency and power, and to hell with the democratic party. We'll witness this, by the destruction, of the democratic party, at their convention.
No, I don't agree. I don't believe either Hillary or Obama, ither one would do anything to win the nomination or destroy the party, however, if the Obama campaign brought up the idea, maybe he is the one who is trying to destroy the party, You know, put the suspicion on Hillary and off him so that people aren"t aware of what he's up to. As of right now i am not to enthused with any of the three candidates
There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary and Bill will do anything to get back to 1600 PA ave including destroying the democratic party. The party means nothing to these people because it contains people and people matter. It's been 43 days since Super Tuesday and they have gotton uglier and meaner, just like real loser's do in every aspect of life. When fear takes over as it has for them, people react out of anger and they are angry that "We the People" didn't just hand them the keys to the kingdom.
Yes, she will do anything and to anybody. When it gets right down to it, I do not believe she is a nice person.
Forget the Democratic Party. Clinton may very well damage the future progress of the American nation. There's a good chance that Democrats will increase their power in Congress, perhaps with a filibuster-proof majority. But that won't matter if Clinton irrevocably damages the party to the point that it guarantees a Republican white house that will veto every attempt at real progress that includes but is not limited to Iraq, Afghanistan, national security, economic relief, tax reform and immigration reform.
Oh goodness Jack, do you live in another world? Haven't you seen any of the other polls. Obama's numbers are tanking and he has to hope his speech earlier today can stop the free fall. And if it seems like you get a lot of pro Obama responses here, perhaps you should realize CNN is being boycotted by some of Hillary's supporters. They just can't stand the negative spin any more.
Jack,
I think the actions of both Clintons indicate that this is the case. They continue to propose absurd reason after absurd reason as to why she should be the nominee while failing to acknowledge that she is losing in every legitimate category used to determine the winner. And you had better believe that they will both be arm-twisting, threatening and doing whatever else they deem necessary to get superdelegates to push her over the top. What happend to the 'faith she has in the intelligence of the voter' that she talked about before Super Tuesday 2?
Jack, you and your followers all support Obama, the new teflon don. His campaign has been playing the race card and they are splitting the party but thanks to the media you have twisted it around to look like the Clinton's are at fault. Mr. Dean has also managed to help Obama win the nomination, but he won't win the election. Maybe Oprah can help him out again. The democrats can't win a general election even when it's handed to them.
Poor Jack. Your guy has been having a rough time in the media. Why don't you show a montage of every time you say he's brilliant. Apparently Obama has turned in to what he accuses Clinton of. He just looks desperate.
If it isn't Clinton, McCain '08
Hillary Clinton is the most divisive politician in America today. She is on a mission to make the people that made her husband's life a living hell while he was in office pay for their transgressions. She is using the well being of the American people as a smokescreen to hide behind as she will stop at nothing to get the democratic nomination.
They say "hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn". Well America, check out Hillary Clinton closely.
jack let me ask you this i think any of us would do anything to win.........that is if you have drive and ambition..........i think we need to go in another direction now and not focus on these negative things that are brought up on a daily basis...........if you want to focus on the negative why dont you and cnn direct it towards george bush........the nut........take a look at his tax returns and his religious beliefs for once.......leave these democratic candidates alone and maybe we can have more speaches about their agendas! i think the only thing i have ever agreed with you on is to replace the congress if they dont want to do their jobs ............
Well, it seems so. Some remarks like "The votes in Michigan and Florida were fair" or "Even McCain could be a better President as Obama would be" sound pretty ugly and decisive. But we should not forget that presidential campagnes are tough and not only about the issues, but also about manipulating media and people by such messages. She is just "Old-Washington-Game" playing very well...
She will probably pull the same stunts as Bush did to get elected. Bribe the Supreme Court to go in favor of her.
The only one destroying the party is Obama . Not sure the whats in the Obama closet .Or ever if his closet is large enough for all that stuff.
All he said today was that he is black and we already knew that .
Oh yes I agree. She is capable of everything no matter what. POWER IS POWER, (paul, clinton april 25 case no: bc304174...) You'll learn more, guarantee...
Yes, Hillary would do anything to get back into the White House including bending the rules. While the Mad Old Feminists and the Geezers With Wheezers who are her core constituency can't see it, the rest of the nation can which is why she is the least electable of the three remaining candidates in both parties. And even if Hillary gets into office, her support base will be so narrow (feministis and deathbed seniors) that she will no more be able to get anything done than her last failed attempt at Hillarycare that probably set back the concept of universal health care by 15 years.
I dont see what is up with the name-calling and character attacks from the Obama camp. Pointing fingers after losing elections is hardly presidential. Instead, why not convince the people who seem unconvinced by Sen. Obama's candidacy that he would be a better president than Sen. Clinton. This is simply immature and very high-school.
Yes she will, I believe she will result to lawsuits if need be. She can't stomach the fact that the majority of American Democrats, do not want her on the ticket. The others are voting her simply because she is a woman, and they did ok during Bills' presidency.
Isn't it clear already Jack? Just imagine if Barack was in Hillary's position right now. How toast do you guess he'd be? I mean, he was being offered the #2 position already when he was #1 for goodness sake!!
She is after all a Republican at heart. Too bad John McCain will not pick her as his VP. I don't know why she hasn't dropped out except to destroy the democratic party. I firmly believe that she had Florida and Michigan to move their primaries hoping to be victorious in succeeding to become the Democratic Nominee.
Jack,
What is it with all this hatred toward Hillary, I can see right through you jack!!
Just come out and say it week after week after week I see the love you have for obama,
...meant to say NOT Presidential...
Dennis
Phoenix, AZ
I have been following this compign very closely. From what I absorved it is true hillary will do any thing to win the democratic nomination. Very sad but true.
No Jack, I do not agree. This is an election and all the voters have not voted yet. It seems that the news media doesn't understand this process. Its about the voters not the party. Obama has not won the nomination yet.
It's clear that Hillary has NO Integrity. She belittles Obama with her false rant about only McCain and her passing the test for Cammander in Chief even at the expense of harming herself or Obama.
Hillary claims that she's the most experienced and vetted without disclosing her taxes, white house papers, earmarks and Bill donor list for his Libray. The other candiates have done so.
Hillary has had soo many mesages that I am confused. Hillary also plays like she doesn't care or understand the caucuses process when it's the same as when her husband Bill Clinton ran for office twice.
Neither candidates have any executive experience and Hillary has ran the poorest campaign by far. She has all the black and establishment support early on a squandered it. Sheer Arrogance and lack on planning!
So YES, Hillary will say anything and rewrite rules, even the ones she agreed upon (MI anf FL) because it's all about Hillary or BILLARY!
If Hilary would dropped out now, we may have a chance to put a Democratic President in office. As things are going now, she is burning us to the ground. I think she just CAN NOT STAND LOSING. That is in admirable quality, but at what cost?
No I don't agree that Senator Clinton campaign would continue with the intent of destroying the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party cannot be destroyed; 1968 proved that.
Hillary has the intent to win the race for President
Obama has the intent to win the feel good about me race.
Which one is the one that the Demcrats need to win the Presidency.
I choose Hillary, she's the one who has been involved with 2 winning Presidential Campaigns. She's the one with the experience. She's the one able to throw McCain into the ditch, jump in after him and kick his ass.
No republicans in any office, not dog catcher, not president, not senate, not house, they have proven that they are incapable, incompent to run this country.
All the Demcrats know that, and some republicans know it too.
The question should not be would Hillary Clinton do anything to win? The question should be would Barack Obama do anything to win? The answer is yes. The result is he is destroying the Democratic Party.
By taking this primary campaign into the gutter as she has, Senator Clinton has demonstrated her willingness to trash the opposition, trash her party, and trash her country for the sake of her own ego and legacy. The party and the country would be better served with a president who can communicate with the American people and a strong, popular voice in the senate working together on a common agenda. Shame on You Senator Clinton, your "legacy" shall be the unlikely election of another republican to the white house.
No, that's not true Jack. She is just being optimistic. And i don't think that making an appeal ,on behalf of Michigan and Florida's voters to have thier delegates be seated in the Convention, is a divisive move or an attempt to destroy the Democratic Party. Denying the right of suffrage of the two states is very undemocratic, hence it would initiate to destror the party's name.
Ruby from Florida
Sounds like the Obama camp will 'say anything' to Win.
Of course they have always been thin on actions, so 'doing anything' is NOT really a possibility for them.
If Clinton works this hard when she's president, we're in good shape.
If Obama talks this much when he's president...eeer... not so much!
Yes!
I wholeheartedly believe that Sen. Clinton will do anything to win. Case in point, the Sen. McCain comment. She would rather give praise to John McCain's experience, than to lose graciously to Sen. Obama.
I have been watching the Morphing of Hillary Clinton for many months now. First she remained aloof. Then as Obama progressed she began to copy his more personal and open technique. Then as she still lost ground after gaining some, she adopted the down and dirty kitchen sink technique. Who is Hillary really?
Many complain that they don't know Barack Obama who has been consistent from the start.
Yes, I believe Hillary Clinton will say and do anything to win.
She will do anything to win and the media is helping her. She is mathematically eliminated without the superdelegates (which voters believe should not be a factor), but since she is a Clinton she is still considered a legitimate contender. She has done squat for NY and I doubt she even cares about this state since she is not even from here and pretends she is just for political opportunity. We have had enough Hillary. And stop playing the gender card. As a woman, I would love nothing more than to have a woman in the White House, but you are not the right woman.
I do find her actions show that she will do anything to win this nomination.
On one hand she wants the voices of the people of Florida heard with another primary (or better yet honor the unfair results)
and on the other hand wants the Super Delegates to overturn the will of the American people and assign her the nominee because she considers herself more electable.
Out of one side of her mouth she wants to hear the voters and out of the other side she will take this nomination if it is appointed to her.
With Obama the likely winner, attempting to tear him down so viciously is only hurting her party's chance of winning in November.
Undoubtedly Clinton is doing everything to win. She has changed her messages to suit the ‘atmosphere’ kitchen sink strategy? I mean the democrats have a huge opportunity to take the white house yet, they are shooting themselves in the leg thanks to Clinton and her backers. Yes she would do anything to win including endorsing a republican over her fellow democrat. I wonder why the media never took her on this one.
I absolutely agree with that statement. She has done everything in her power to try and sling mud on Barack Obama even stooping as low as endorsing John McCain over Obama even though they agree on 95% of the issues. She has mustered up so much animosity in this race that regardless who gets the nomination a number of the others supporters are going to vote for McCain. This whole primary mess has made me leave the Democratic party and register as an Independent. I only hope that the Dems can pull it together in time for November. I may not like Sen. Clinton very much but I cringe at the thought of John McCain being in office over this foolishness.
A political analyst on one new show or another the other day said it best: that the Clintons have proven, time and again, that they are willing to "burn down the village to save themselves". Even people who worked on Bill Clinton's campiagns seem to agree whole-heartedly with that analogy (i.e. Dick Morris), which should certainly make one wonder. When you add to that their continual redefinition of what "is" is, so that it fits into what they want, I don't quite understand those who are blind to these things; that the Clintons seem to care only about what they want, above all else. Hillary Clinton wants so badly to be the first female president of this country, and I for one, am very concerned about how far she is willing to go to get what she wants, especially when I'm sure that, for her, it's likely so close that she can taste it and smell it. I believe that in, a heartbeat, she will put her wants above what is best for the Democratic Party, and for that matter, this country. Her party is the Clinton Party and it is that party that she cares about above the people of this country.
There are a lot of "special interest" individuals and corporations that have invested heavily in Hillary. Those same people have invested in "status quo" Democrats and Republicans for decades. Both Hillary and those entities are going to fight to earn or steal the seat of power.
They are the true enemies of freedom that assault the USA, The Constitution and our personal life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
I'd have to agree. It seems Hillary's motto is: It takes a village...but if I can't be the one to save that village, then I'd rather burn it down.
The Clintons are competitors, having been tested by the fire of Republican opponents in the past. Hillary is a fighter and yes, she will do what she thinks is necessary to win, but I don't believe for a minute that she would intentionally engage in anything that would inflict fatal harm on the Democrats' chances of reclaiming the White House – even if that Democrat is Obama.
JACK,
I do believe that Hillary will do and say just about anything to win the Democratic nomination even if the Democratic party experiences long-term damage. If I were to rank the remaining presidential candidates in order of "say and do anything to win", Hillary would be first, followed by McCain, and then lastly Obama.
With all due respect to Hillary Clinton, Hillary knows that this would probably be her one and only time to run for President. If Obama won the nomination and presidency and did a good job as president, then Hillary Clinton would not be able to run again for president until 2016, in which time should would be 68 years old.
They are in favor of changing the rules in the middle of the game so they can win.
Clinton flat-out lied when she said she would abide by Democratic rules regarding Michigan and Florida. She even signed her name to an agreement.
If she somehow snagged the nomination in a way that is perceived by many to be unfair, she will be doomed in November.
ALso, her repeated rhetoric about how certain states don't matter and her belittling of so-called "activists" clearly shows she doesn't care about the Democratic Party. She simply cares about herself.
just because Obama and committee say it, does not make it so.
Politics are not a tea party, it is war, the republicans know that, that's why the republicans keep defeating the democrats. Just ask Dukakis, Gore and Kerry, they were hammered unmercifully.
The republicans live by the credo, "All's Fair in Love and War."
If the democrats don't live by that motto, in the primaries and general election, it will be President McCain.
Jack.....Barack Obama's campaign is devisive. After his lie last Friday and his admission today that he lied – we should believe him or his campaign? Give me a break! He is saying anything to destroy the party – even if it is racist!
Clinton's behavior seems to suggest one of two things:
1) She truly loves the country and knows, _knows_ that anything other than a President Hillary Clinton would be terrible for the country, so she's willing to do whatever is necessary to save the electorate from themselves and their foolish choices at the ballot box.
or
2) She is so blinded by ego and lust for personal power that she's willing to do whatever is necessary to come out on top.
Neither option is very pretty, but #2 is uglier than number one. I believe that she genuinely can't understand how it is that the rest of the country can't see that she's exactly what they need. It's not much of an endorsement, though.
Yes I do believe that she will do anything at anybodies expense to win! I am a black woman and at the start of these primaries I was split between the two, but after watching the way she has campaigned and following the growth of Obama I have in effect lost all respect for Clinton and become a strong supporter of Obama. She is breaking this party and turning her back on the most loyal democratic supporters. If she was able to "steal" the nomination from him she will undoubtably loose the general election, because supporters such as myself WILL NOT vote for her.
The way that she has campaigned is a disgrace to the Democratic party and to women in politics. I cannot wait to see the day that we have a woman as Commander in Chief, but it wil not be her. She does not have the grace, charisma, and civility to be that woman!
Shame on her and shame on Bill Clinton!!!
Would Clinton do anything to win?
Lets take a look at the historical facts:
Bill and Hillary Clinton denies any knowledge of a federally backed $300,000 loan made to Susan McDougal during the Whitewater scandal, although virtually everyone associated with the case is convicted in one form or another with the exception of the Clintons. Hillary denies any relationship with Peter Paul or David Rosen as part of her senate finance campaign, although the “Hillary Uncensored” movie excerpts surfaced proving not only her knowledge of the fund raising efforts, but her active involvement. Never mind the number of campaign finance rules and federal laws that were broken on this subject, there is still pending action in the California courts. She gives her word that she had no involvement or knowledge, but these very statements are becoming her battle cries. We are supposed to believe what she says, and her word is good enough for us. Please!!! Now with all of this said, the Clinton’s (Yes Bill helped) now deny playing the race card! So in a nutshell, YES I would say the Clinton’s would do ANYTHING to win.
clearly she will say or do anything to win the election.
anyone who could say the primary elections in fla and michigan were fair and should be counted is clearly in denial about reality.
also, saying barack is not ready to be president , but, could be her vice president is not rational.
i feel bad for her, she's destroying her legacy.
HRC will keep this nation divided ....... not only will she do anything to get the nomination ....... she will sacrifice our souls as well. The Clintons should bow out and keep whatever snippet of dignity that pair might still have. If she wins this old, white, southern male democrat will be sitting this one out, I won't vote for her or McCain. Time for the young folks that haven't been warped by the Clinton/Bush battles to take up the problems we face. I hope they do better than we did, what a mess we have left them!
Absolutely she will! She practically endorsed McCain. How can that help the party?
She’s trying to be the bigger person these last few days because she thinks Obama’s pastor gives some Whites a reason not to vote for him and not feel racist. After Obama’s speech today we’ll she how long before she’s flinging mud again.
I’ll take Obama any day over someone who works to divide America over race and Gender to win a race.
He is the only candidate running that can unite us.
Hillary and her carefully scripted and controlled surrogates have injected venom into this campaign which threatens very seriously to destroy any chance the Democrats have to change the direction of this country. Barack Obama today gave voice to the nobility and the integrity that he brings to the campaign... and it's the same tone that was his at the start and throughout. Hillary and her folks now are faced with the choice of LOSE or restart the petty, narrow, divisive squabbling all over again. Which do YOU think she'll opt for, Jack?
Jack,
You can cherry pick whatever poll you want to support your point. If Clinton is willing to fight this hard for the nomination, then surely she will fight just as hard for the healtcare that all American deserve and for getting our woeful ecomonmy back in some sort of shape.
Conor, Nashville.
I think she believes the nomination was stolen from her, and she's doing everything within her power to take it back. It's hard to give up something you thought belonged to you all along.
Is that an admirable trait? I don't think it is. We've got wars going on around the world... for hundreds of years.... cause people can't give it up. I think there needs to be understanding of people who are willing to destroy what they love before they give it up.
Jack, this is a tired old charge that the Obama campaign has been pushing against Hillary for months. Just like the "divisive" charge and the "race-baiting" charge it is made up out of whole cloth and, if anything, tell us more about the Obama campaign's philosophy than it does Clinton's. It was Obama who threw an elderly black mentor under the bus in Illinois in order to get elected. It was David Axelrod who played the race card in South Carolina hoping to pin some dirt on the Clintons. If there's anyone in this race who will "do anything to win", it is Obama. Please try to live up to your journalistic responsibilities and apply some kind of "truth" or "evidence" filter to your reports rather than just parroting the talking points one campaign feeds you.
I also think the media is underplaying just how huge his lead is over her right now.
She already can't catch up in Pledged Delegate, and with Florida out of contention and Michigan possibly close behind she has little to NO chance of overtaking him in Popular vote.
The media at this time is playing Obama's lead like it is very small.
Many are also making such a big deal over Ohio... She won 2 out of the last 17 primaries, he has won 15...
Does it look like momentum is in her favor?
Jack, Hillary and Bill are so consumed with themselves and power in general there is nothing I would'nt put past them in their quest for the ultimate prize.
However, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi started the Democratic parties downfall long before the Presidential race got into full swing. These idiots stand in front of cameras and whine like two year olds when they don't get their way. It is disgusting to watch.
Hillary or Barak either one will not only have to repair the party but, they need to tell the rest of the high ranking Democrats to quit being the problem and start solving the problems. If they don't, it won't matter who wins in November, the gridlock and stalemate common over the last 7 years will continue.
Absolutely.
I hope she has the sheer intestinal fortitude to win–for Obama's very vulnerable. Despite the media's swoony love for the man, whose accomplishments run the gamit from a to b, his campaign's sinking. He's yet to win a single large state, except for Illinois. His minister,his spiritual mentor, strikes me as a reverse-racist jerk, and anti-American to boot. In San Fransicso, or New York, comments like 'God ____ America, might be shrugged off, but, I assure you, in Red State America, they're fighting words, and he can't weasel out of his association with the man. If Hillary were associated with a minister who said that, it'd be torches and pitchforks time!
Yes, Hillary does appear to be ready to do anything to win the nomination. In her mind, her nomination and eventual presidency is as inevitable as it seemed 6 months ago. Until Obama hits the 2025 delegate mark, she will fight vigorously even at the risk of destroying the democratic party's chances at the presidency. Besides the fact that the nomination being far from over, her arrogance and sense of entitlement for the presidency explains her behavior.
No one knows if Hillary would do anything to win, but your big mouth tells us you want her to lose.
The Clinton's have tried everything to persuade voters that Hillary is the only one who can lead this nation, I find that notion arrogant and ludicrous. Hillary has given the Republicans enough material for ads and arguments to use against the Democrats for the next two presidential elections. Even at the expense of destroying the Democratic Party, I believe Hillary wants to win at any cost and will stop at nothing.
If she gets the nod give Cindy and John the keys, so they can start moving in. The majority of folks I speak with aren't even entertaining the thought of voting for Hillary under any circumstances. They would rather vote for McCain then give her the satisfaction of winning.
She can only win by having the superdelegates overturn the popular vote. If this happens, it will guarantee a loss against McCain. She should show some class and retire now so we can concentrate on the general election.
Clinton has always struck me as desiring power.
When her husband was president, there were constant jokes that one day Hillary would be president.
Then, she runs for Senate against a Rupublican opponent in a state she doesn't live in...in a largely democratic state....with large amounts of delegates.
In 2004, she openly degraded everyone attempting to get the Democratic nomination, knowing full well that if they won, she wouldn't be able to run for another 8 years. Right there you see a lack of party loyalty. The whole party wanted Bush out, but she couldn't let that happen, it would interfer with her plans.
Of course, she didn't run then because she didn't think anyone would ever consider a first term US Senator.
This campaign has been 8 years in the making. I have no doubt in my mind she will do anything, including destroying a party she feels no loyalty for, to see that come true.
Throughout this race, I have learned what it means to fight like a Clinton. Being only just old enough to vote, I had not known the ferocity and stubbornness of Bill and Hillary Clinton. But ever since I started to become accustomed to her tactics, her methods of adopting whatever set of rules favor her current position and cutting down opponents instead of trying to lift herself up, I have become disgusted with her overall outlook on what it means to win and what is appropriate to do in attempting to reach that goal. In my opinion, she should take her opponent's advice and ask herself not only if she CAN win, but if she SHOULD win. After this appalling display, my opinion is no.
Jack,
this might be breaking news for David Axelrod but Obama hasn't won enough delegates yet either. To think that the other candidate should give up before the course is run is audaciously hopeful and might turn out to be audaciously naive. Let the people keep voting. I dont believe that Clinton would do anything to win, Obama's problem is that she wants to win more than him.
Jack,
Loyalty is very important in the Democratic Party Family.
Anyone who says an outsider is better than their brother, is not worthy to be a family member.
Secondly, Sen Clinton has changed the goal post, manipulated the press, cried, shouted, showed rage, so many times, she simply lacks credibility.
So Jack, the simple answer is Yes.
clearly she will say or do anything to win the election.
anyone who could say the primary elections in fla and michigan were fair and should be counted is clearly in denial about reality.
also, saying barack is not ready to be president , but, could be her vice president is not rational.
i feel bad for her, she’s destroying her legacy.
Sounds like whining to me. Let the entire voting process play out. That is the American way – let every voter be heard.
Billary would do ANYTHING to win we all know this thats why she can't be trusted, and her liar husband too.
If you consider throwing her oponent under the Republican bus, lawsuits filed against the Texas caucus process and a dozen other less than honorable tactics, Hillary will even sacrifice the party for her nomination by insisting on criteria other than the will of the voters as expressed in elected delegates, to settle this thing.
I do agree. Already, Hillary has purposely and successfully accomplished drawing the divise line within the Democratic Party. Her characteristics has been proven "unclassy, unpresidential, and untrustworthy." This pours fuel on the fire, by meeting the preference of the Republican Party by having her win the Democratic nominee to then lose the Presidential race to John McCain. As an American voter, this concerns me on how the Clinton campaign has calculated these "hater-ade" battles, and blurred the "focus on change" with this style of politics. I demand that Howard Dean, gather all remaining delegates to choose a nominee, in this case Obama, and then unite Dem voters to carry the "real movement of change" to the White House. Now Barak, go on out there and be somebody!
I think that Hillary Clinton will do anything to win which includes destroying the party. She has changed her ideas on the winning race by saying that winning the popular vote is what counts the most. Where she a few weeks ago it was about the delegates. She is doing anything possible to help win the nomination. The name of the game is to win the nomination and if she has to be sneaky or change her mind a few times, she will to win the nomination even if it hurts the party. If the superdelegates is what will put her on top, she will do what it takes for her to get them like winning the popular vote or telling it best to vote from her. Any which way she can get votes, she will find a way. Like Harold Wolfson says “let democracy run its course.”, which shows the voting process is key to win which every way the vote will to. Democracy will run its course by picking the nomination for the party.
With everything that's been happening in the news lately, I feel that I need to tell you my ethnicity before I even make my comment. Anyway, my answer is not intentionally. I just think sometimes the campaign gets so focused on the goal of winning the nomination that they don't see the people that they really want to help. I'm african-american by the way.
OBAMA '08
O yeah Mr.Cafferty she would and we can all list out pages of all the negatives she`s been up to and we know there will be more coming.
I agree. The Clinton are ready to burn their village to win this nomination. "John McCain will come to this campain with life experience, I will come with 35 years experience. But Barack will come here with speeches" What does that tell you about her?
She (or her campain) suggested that Barack will not be able to win over McCain. What does that tell you?
There is more into this than that. Either you are with the Clintons or you are not with them. Anyone who has a different opinion is not good for them. I am sick of such people. Bill did a good job. YES. Is he the only one in AMERICA to have such good ideas? Wake up America! You have more talented people than you think.
I am writting from Canada!
That's like the classic joke question "Have you stopped beating your wife?" It assumes she is bad and their is no good answer. It also plays right into the spoon-fed Obama and conservative mythology.
It is amazing how close the conservatives and Obama-maniacs are in their list of real and imagined complaints against the Clintons.
To be even-handed: Try "Will either candidate do anything to win?" since neither has the delegates. Or is the press back to the Obama free-ride?
Any wife who puts up with an adulterous husband, clearly does not have her priorities in life straight. Hillary's endorsement of John McCain already makes it crystal clear that if she can't win the nomination this time around, she will destroy it for Obama like they did for John Kerry and hope for that 2012 will bring a better result.
Well I guess Mrs Clinton should just step aside ,least she ruins Baracks dream. Guess her dream doesn't matter. Will she do anything to be President,,no more the Obama. Why doesn't he step aside and let her see her dream come true. Grow up people this is a race to the whitehouse.After all it's the only job opening in the U.S ,I'm thinking about throwing my hat in the race. As far as revotes, I voted in Mi knowing that it wouldn't matter, but it did to me just to vote for who I wanted ,cause on the real vote that person might not be on ticket,soooo its over and done. Life is a learning event, the party learned a good lesson. This will never happen again. Go Hillary.
Why would she do such a stupid thing.... that's like "cutting off your nose to spite your face" I cannot believe such nonsense. sniff...
Mary from Sarasota. (remember, she is still a Senator and can go right back to her day job...so there....) Jack, all you are going to get in response to this question is a lot of vitriol..
I don't think that's true Jack because I think the party is already destroyed. Obama may be getting some votes from Republicans and Independents, but he has alienated many other Democrats who will not vote for him, under any scenario, if he is the Democratic nominee. The typical blue-collar worker, a large part of the base of the Democratic party, has heard enough lies from Obama about what he would do about NAFTA that he can't be trusted with the presidency of the United States. He would bring change, change for the worse.
Yes, Clinton would do anything to win the nomination. She follows the rules as long as they play in her favor. She said Michigan and Florida would not count until she won, and now she is trying to get them seated. On the other hand she is trying to delay the results of the Texas Caucus because she is not expected to win. The Media needs to keep her in check, because the American people aren't.
Looks like Media will do anything to help HRC lose the nomination fight
I believe she is desperate to win & will do anything, take any means necessary to win. "Lie, cheat, steal, as God as her witness" she will do anything to be president. What scares me is people actually find her trustworthy & want to see her elected. . .
As a Hillary supporter, I expect her to do everything she can do to win that's within the rules. Why not let Florida and Michigan have their votes counted? What's wrong with that? It's funny how the media talks about Hillary not following the rules, when it's Obama's campaign who illegaly aired ads in Florida for a week! Why not talk about that Jack?I'm sure you won't even dare because you have to protect your precious Obama.
Added my location so maybe you'll take my comment out of "moderation" limbo. Jack, this is a tired old charge that the Obama campaign has been pushing against Hillary for months. Just like the “divisive” charge and the “race-baiting” charge it is made up out of whole cloth and, if anything, tell us more about the Obama campaign’s philosophy than it does Clinton’s. It was Obama who threw an elderly black mentor under the bus in Illinois in order to get elected. It was David Axelrod who played the race card in South Carolina hoping to pin some dirt on the Clintons. If there’s anyone in this race who will “do anything to win”, it is Obama. Please try to live up to your journalistic responsibilities and apply some kind of “truth” or “evidence” filter to your reports rather than just parroting the talking points one campaign feeds you.
yes, she want to deinfranchize 2.5 million people who didn't vote in FL because they be told stay at home, it doesn't count. She want to seat the Michigan delegates even when Obama was not on the ballot! Maybe she should be McCain's running mate, She's saying both of them qualified as comand in chief (but not Obama),......... the truth is both of them helped Bush drive our country to a ditch .making disastor of war and economy. Democrac party need to wake up to question her loyalty to her party and end this divisive approach . America can't afford them to lead any more! Hilery claims of her foreign policy experience are untruthful, she didn't sit in or negotiate in any legitimate elected or appointed position, she was "First Lady", no power ,no meaning , just tourist along with husband. It is unconstitutionall for Bill Clinton to return for third term, , if this was a team Presidencty 1992-2000, its unconstitutional for same team to return for a third team in 2008 .
Barack Obama's campaign can say what it wants. However, it is his own campaign that has said one thing to Canada about NAFTA while sporting a different message for the American voters. It is his own campaign that has made it seem possible he won't hold to his plan to withdraw troops from Iraq. And it is his campaign that has made race a bigger issue than Bill Clinton could have ever done. No one from the Clinton campaign made Barack appoint his hate-filled pastor to his religious committee, nor did the Clintons have anything to do with his attendance to that church for the last twenty years. It makes it difficult for him to look like the candidate of unity when he has been such an avid participant of divisiveness.
Absolutely. Hillary has already confirmed she will do whatever it takes to win. However, this confirms her low opinion of the intelligence and morality of the American people. Does she really think that the majority of our populace wishes to have a President who is as secretive, underhanded, and manipulative as she has demonstrated herself to be. We have had enough of this from the past two Presidents. It is time for a change.
Kathleen
Northern California
The Clinton's will do ANYTHING to win. Make no mistake about that. What makes my stomach turn is listening to her stump and campaign about how much she cares about our military and we, the people. She could not care less about either one. Anyone who wants to know who the real Hillary is, just read the very well written book American Evita. Also, as a tax payer, I don't want to pay again to restock the White House and Air Force One with everything they stole on their way out the door the last time.
i agree with the gentleman from brookyn,ny. why are we letting this dirty game of politics divid us in the united states. we have been divided every since bush been in the white house. now we'er divided with what i see another dirty game being play by those who don't want to see a change. come on people don't them divided us again, this is what they want to see happen. let get back to the issues at hand, ask yourself one thing. are you better off now,then you was before bush get into the white house. ask yourself
Absolutely! She hasn't an ouce of credibility and I'm amazed more people don't see through the facade.
She cares nada for the common people; it's all about power and prestige, and her ego.
Hillary Huckabe needs to drop out now!
Hillary will and has been doing anything to get the nomination. And for the life of me I can't understand why. Is it her ego, is it the money that modern presidents have been able to captialize on or does she want to return what she stole from the white house? She's already been in the white house, been there, done that. I strongly believe that America is ready for a women president but not this woman. Who could possibly want to listen to her lies, husband drama and half truths for 4 years or 8 years. My husband always teased me when Dubya came on the TV – he would say 'your president is on with the State of the Union'. I would say 'you know I don't listen to a word your fool president has to say!' If Hillary gets the nomination, I believe McCain would easily win but if not then I would look forward to my husband's loving bantor about my president and my response of not listening to a word that woman has to say.
Barbara Barner
Raleigh, North Carolina
Jack,
Of course Hillary would do anything to win and that is why she should be our nominee. The Republicans are going to bring it no matter how much they pretend like they are not excited about their nominee. The Republicans will do anything to win and if they don't they will cheat and claim victory (Evidence: 2000 election). The Clintons are tough to beat and will not go down without a fight. If Gore had fought for what was rightfully his in 2000 then we would not be in this mess. Obama will just try to take the high road like Kerry and look what happend to Kerry. The Republicans took an intelligent man that was a war hero and turned him into their punching bag. The Clintons know how to win and that is why will Hillary have my vote.
Danielle
Pittsburgh, PA
As though Obama will not do anything to win himself. Once again, Obama supporters think he walks on water. Even if I were personally in her position, I would do what I could to win too!.. Who wouldn't?.. Campaigns are not altruistic ventures!
Yes, my husband and I believe Billary will do anything to win. She thinks she is entitled to the job. When she said the primary in Florida was "fair", even when her opponent was not listed on the ballot, I knew she had gone over the edge. She is getting a little creepy with the overwhelming arrogance. November is SO far away...
That is my biggest worry with this race right now.
She is all that and more.
If the democracy party can not win and take back the presidency from the white house, I think it is not causing by Hillary, It has caused by Obama.
by her own words we know this to be true.
but i'm a sexist for not supporting her, i'm a racist for not denouncing barack and his evil-doer pastor and i'm a peacenik for not supporting King George the 2nd's Failed Iraq War.
what do i know?
Yes Hillary will do anything. It's the whole "do anything to win" politics that makes myself and most of my friends not want to vote. If Obama loses the nomination it won't be because Hillary is the better candidate. It'll be because she is more willing to lower her standards to win. She's hurting the democratic party.
Come on Jack, does the following quote from Sen. Clinton answer the question loud and clear? " I have experience John McCain has experience all Sen. Obama has is a speech". A political no no! undermine a candidate from your own party & praise the candidate from the other party, to make yourself look good. This statement is more divisive than Rev. Wright, why you ask? because it came right out of the candidates mouth, not her Pastor's....... or does she even have a Pastor? I don't like to use Joe Scarboro tactics and say " I gaurantee you" before making a prediction, but I'm forced to. " I gaurantee you" if she somehow manipulates her way into the nomination John McCain will win in a landslide!
The Clinton's will throw anything against the wall to use if it sticks. Yes, her ego is as fat as her husband's and she doesn't care what it takes to run. The Clintons are the reason we got part of the Bush crime family in the White House in the first place. Same old crap. She has only this window to attempt her run and she won't stop. She goes negative and accuses Obama of foul play. She questions Obama's associations and takes money from federal fugitives. She got caught and blames Obama for negative campaigning. Hillary cares only about herself.
I agree fully. As a former Clinton supporter, I had no idea of what the Clinton's were truly capable of. Now, I see. She will do just about anything win the nomination. If she does get the nomination, she will NEVER get my vote!
Jack,
How can her campaign honestly say "let democracy run its course" in one breath while also saying thar the superdelegates have the right to choose the "best candidate," even if it overturns the decision of the voters? This type of politics needs to end now. Sen. Clinton cannot win this nomination fairly, so why is she still running?
Until this presidential race, I've always had a great deal of respect and admiration for Hillary Clinton. Since Super Tuesday, however she has placed more importance to winning, then anything else. Her, or members of her staff, have fanned the flames of fear, race and gender issues, at the expense of the real issues confronting America. The American people have spoken clearly, and Barack Obama is the choice of the Democratic party. Clinging to some hope that she can win is counterproductive to the goal of a Democratic president in 2008. Clinton should bow out now, as I believe she would make an ideal secretary of state in the Obama administration.
Absolutely. Has anyone ever doubted that the Clintons would do anything to win? I am a Democrat and would have voted for Clinton had Obama not come along and changed the way that I view politics. Now I will NOT vote for Clinton even if she gets the nomination because of the way that she's running her campaign and dividing the Democratic Party.
In the words of Charlton Heston from Any Given Sunday, "my god, I think that woman would eat her young".
Jack–good question. Is the pope catholic?The answer is not in doubt. She is for Hilary and the party can go to hell.
Yes as I think most politicians would...we can only hope if these self servers get into office they will serve the pople and not their own interest.....I can Hope can't I
What is destroying the Democratic Party is not Hillary Clinton. It is the Michigan and Florida disenfranchisement of those citizens' votes!
The candidates were told not to participate in the Michigan election and ALL of them agreed (including HIillary). Hillary did not take her name off the ballot in Michigan when she had the chance. The other candidates did (Kucinich exception). If this does not prove she would be willing to do anything to win I, what does.
Personally I like the Clintons but after this last couple of months I am seriously wondering what her motivations are for the attack mode she has gone into concerning Barack Obama. Michigan and Florida are prime examples to me. She agreeded NOT to have the votes in those two states count because of them stepping outside their own rules and moving their primary dates up but now that she is still behind in the deligate count, she has decided to forgo any agreeded to terms of procedure between all parties concerned. This is like adhereing to the old term of "Indian giving" . Sorry but I want someone who is going to stand by agreements made unless said agreement is detremental to ALL concerned and not just ones grasp for power.
Jack,
Yes she would. I completely agree with what Samantha Power said, that she is a monster. Also something Barack Obama said, that if he had lost 12 straight times, they would have argued for him to drop out. Hillary can not win this, just look at the numbers. She wont be able to do it, and in the process is tearing the Democrats apart. She needs to quite now!!!
Obama Richardson 08!!!
Only if by "anything" you mean putting up a new façade for each situation, turning on fake tears, using surrogates to advance racial arguments, spouting hypocrisies, and tearing down the Democratic nomination process in order to be tall enough to win it.
The Clinton campaign will do and say anything to win this nomination because this is her turn and there is no way some young senator from Illinois who was barely known two years ago is going to crush her dreams. So the democratic party and rules better get out of the way. If popular votes, following the rules and delegates won't get her there then she will redraw a new electoral map that uses some of John McSame's spare delegates. The ambition of this woman is going to ensure that 3rd Bush term we all dread.
A much better question is where are the super delegates and the DNC?
They know Hillary can no longer win and yet they sit on their hands and watch her destroy their chances of winning in November.
It reminds me of Nero fiddling while Rome burnt.
Obama should run as an independent if the democrats keep messing with this, with Bloomberg as his running mate.
Then maybe even Lou Dobbs will jump on his bandwagon.
Why do you think Hillary and Bill are still together? That is not because of Chelsea (27) or because of Bill's faithfulness.
Yes but so is Obama! Clinton is not that far behind and neither candidate is truly out doing the other overall so I think it is ludicrous to ask either one to leave the race. Who would want a presidential candidate that does not want the job so bad they are not willing to fight for it? Obama is just as guilty as Clinton when it comes to doing anything to win including having his campaign say something as stupid as that!
Joliene Denver CO
Jack, I know you won't read this on the air, but here's a thought, ... instead of trying to dissuade the public from giving Hillary a fighting chance, why not let us voters decide for ourselves. Much to your dismay, there are many of us (>40%) that resent any efforts to truncate this campaign prematurely. As a Floridian, I'm particularly outraged that my vote for Hillary won't mean squat.
P.S. The comments you choose to air are unabashedly anti-Clinton and pro-Obama by at least a 3 to 1 margin (yes, I count them each day). Are you not afraid of offending some of your viewers. What ever happened to the" unbiased" news media?
Hillary does not care about running a good campaign. She does care about the voters or the Democratic Party. While stumping she actually referred to some constituents as "latte- sipping elitists". She insulted young people by claiming that those that we young people are unaware of Obama's experience and implied we have no real grasp of the issues. If she has no problem insulting voters and is willing to throw ANYONE under the "bus" (including Bill) then I am sure she has no qualms about more mishanded deeds. She's already mucking up everything. So I ask Jack, once she has destroyed the Dems, who shall vote for her?
Unfortunately, I agree... and from everything I've seen in the past two months, she has no respect for the American voters. If she didn't win the state, then by her own admission that state doesn't count and can't carry the votes for the general election. To be honest, who cares that she has won the SO-CALLED BIG states (except for the media). Even with those wins, Sen. Obama is leading in popular votes and delegates. To state that the elections in Michigan and Florida was fair - is truly scary!
She has truly showed her whole card – and it will destroy and change the entire core of the Democratic Party for many years to come. Does she care – Hell No!
Jack –
Of course. First it was about delegates. When she began losing it was about number of states won. When she fell behind in that, it was about size of the state won. Then it was on to Michigan and Florida having their delegates seated after breaking the rules. Now it is popular vote. She has thrown the kitchen sink at Obama and has intimated that McCain has passed the commander in chief test and that Obama has not. She refuses to drop out and is furiously working behind the scenes to convince super delegates that she is more electable. She has said she is "in it to win it." That is apparent - at any cost.
Yes...in fact there's some possibility she already has destroyed some aspects of the party...the Democrats are at an historical threshold where they are offering solution following eight years of folly...the Whitehouse is theirs to lose. And from my perspective, Hillary is doing what she can to lose it for them.
Yes, and she already has. It is depressing and what is even more depressing to me is that it is obvious and her supporters don't seem to care and maybe that is the division in the Democratic party. Those who just want to get even with Bush and his cronies and are angry and willing to do anything. And those who want to move on from that sort of mind set and begin fresh.
YES!
Hi Jack,
Wow...you have posted in here only those messages which are in line with you views. I know you will not post my message. Anyway, let me tell you...among the CNN pundits, your are the most biased toward Obama. Not only that but your talk is so hateful toward Hillary that makes me wonder how in the world CNN can allow you be a jerk whenever you talk about Hillary.
Hillary Clinton has the support of millions across the United States, she has a tremendous number of delegates, to quit and walk away so that we can put a man at the head of the democratic ticket is an insult to all of us who support her. Even more importantly, we must allow this campaign to play out and to allow everyone's voice to be heard. Every vote should count its the democratic way.
I hated to see the other candidates drop from the race so soon. The voters didn't really get a chance to really hear a lot from them. I noticed how biased the debates seem to be like someone had already chose a nominee. If anything is damaging the party it is definitely the DNC. It is extremely difficult for me to understand the rules that they have, especially when it comes to the peoples voice.
By not having Florida's and Michigan's votes count because of an early primary seems pretty undemocratic to me.
The voters are not concerned with delegates and superdelegates. They want to know and believe that their vote counts for something. Why doesn't the DNC understand that was why the big voter turn-outs, they surely weren't out there for their health, especially in Michigan. It looks to me that the DNC had a nominee already in mind.
Jack,
You have it twisted.....the Obama camp has done everything they can to WIN.....problem is they have a candidate that isn't vetted and once we started to vet him we found out that under all that high rhetoric is a Liar, plagiarist, friend of a crook he took more money and favor from and then the U-Tube recording of the "Rev" which made most of us sick. Obama is no longer a viable candidate, and now that he knows this he will do anything to try and look viable-too little too late!
The truth is Jack everyone know and believes that you are misogynist and in particular you hate the next president of America.
If you enter a race and you don't plan on winning why enter?
When you enter a race and the judges (media) try to turn everyone against you and you stay in the race, pick yourself up and end up winning the race that is a winner, that is a leader and that is the next president.
All that Obama has is "I did not vote for the Iraq war" that will not solve the problem.
All that Obama has is the "Race Card" and to point the finger accusing at someone else. A Loser's strategy.
Yes! She has already said things to hurt Obama in the General election.
Absolutely she would do anything to win at all cost. She has proven that by going so negative, withholding tax information along with other information she has been asked to release. Accusing the press of favoring Obama, which has worked and scared the press to favor her.
That is why the educated American people have voted in high numbers for Obama and not for her. I really hope the people of Pennsylvania and the rest of the States that have not voted yet are well educated and can see right through Hillary’s win at all cost campaign.
If you look at Hillary's record, it's plain that her thirst for power is almost unbounded. Many believe, as I do, that she effectively operated as Co-President with Bill for 8 years, and that during her term, a number of dubious incidents took place, including the loss of life for some who were closely tied to the Clintons. Then, when that gig was over, she immediately moved to New York, where she successfully ran for the Senate. What astounds me the most is that the citizens of that great state collectively seem unable to see that they have been used to further her bald face ambitions. Hillary has obviously been running for the presidency since about 1993. Our country does not need to be any further damaged by another power-hungry, arrogant and delusional president who will stop at nothing, including the destruction of her own party.
Jack,
thank for mentioning this, you are the only one willing to say it!!! she will do whatever it takes to win or force the nomination_
she and bill believe they are above the law.
none else is talking about it, but she will rob the election if needed.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssss she will.
That's absurd. If Obama's camp is so worried that letting the democratic process run it's course will split the party, he should drop out. Neither candidate can earn enough pledged deligates to nail this down before the convention.
This election was the democrats to lose, so much discontent from the country about the current leadership, now it has become a case of if "I don't get this nomination no one else will". Only one problem? Can a democrat really take the white house if the black voters become indifferent?
Which is better, a democratic president in 2008, or a democratic flagbearer named Hillary who contested and lost?
I think as selfish and ruthless as she has been so far that if she cannot have it all she is willing to bring others down.Bill Clinton was unwilling to resign and do the right thing.She is showing the same selfishness.Keep up the good work Jack!!!
No, Barack Obama is destroying the Democratic party and setting race relations so far back we will need to elect Lincoln again to fix.
Winnetka, IL
Dear Jack,
Your question is like asking a man, "When did you stop beating
your wife". It's glaring evidence of your pro-Obama bias. Your
piece should be renamed "Cafferty's Obama File"
Sounds like Obama will do anything to win. Is he running scared now?
Quick answer for that Jack my pal "HELL YEAH!" This lady at the cost of the Democratic Party will do anything and this party will sink as surely as ice will melt in hell!!
Since just before Ohip and Texas, all of Hillary's strategies and tactics, including defending the right of voters in the up and coming primaries, are merely cynical and strategic attempts at making the case before the remaining super delegates for a campaign that has hit their ceiling and needs to go negative. The Clinton campaign has publicly admitted that the only way they can still win this election is by tearing Barack Obama down. Remember, "We're going kitchen sink"...
And so it is all about the Super Delegates – The incessant need for the Hillary campaign to change the goalposts, when in fact it is all about the delegates is an obviously effective strategy, given much of the media's ADD-like fascination with the horse race elements of the primaries. It is painfully obvious that much of the media is more than willing to hype up the drama of it all and simply play up the hearsay, the inflammatory rhetoric and specious allegations in the build up to the latest primary vote. And only after offer passing analysis of how they were played by the Hillary campaign.
She would do anything to get elected, but Hillary can prove many wrong by stopping this after the Penn vote. Unless she completely landslides Obama (high double digets, enough to potentially swing the delegate count), she really should step aside and start singing his praises. She'll be an easy target for the Republicans and other Hillanators out there if she takes this all the way to a messy convention We're on the verge of tossing another gimme to the Republicans because she is obviously destroying the party... look at the posts regarding the FL "do-over".
Hillary is willing to sacrifice the party for the sake of her nomination. She's 60, another run may have her at 68. Even at 64, she'd still be 4 years further away from the voters' memory of the 90s. This is now or never for her. It's obvious with the "VP conversation" that her and Bill have entertained and even encouraged, she sits in 2nd place but yet believes she is well above the party and common sense. Democrats, beware.
Yes, anything to win, even promote McCain's candidacy over
Obama's! An ultimate sign, scary to Dems, and re-enforcing to
Republicans. Geri Ferraro's comments came from the same frustration as Hillary feels–"it's our time for a woman Pres,
HRC is our best chance, and we're upset that Obama has
threatened to snatch away our presumed entitlement."
Ladies, don't get evil over this. If the country is ready to elect a black,
certainly gender is no longer an obstacle.
No more "Fatal Detraction"
Jack, How can you ask that question after what has been going on with Obama? It seems that he is doing everything he can to win. Actually why wouldn't either one – that is why they are in this race – to win.
One could argue that she just wants to bring change to the lower class that she loves SO much, that she's fighting really hard to win. But why then, is she so rich? Why not give more to charities? Why not fight NAFTA in Congress?
Why don't you ask the same question regarding Obama? It seems that he is able to twist and turn his words to get out of the "boneheaded" situations we are always finding him in! Jack, you need to get off the Obama train – it's headed for a tunnel!
In the words of Whitney Houston......."hell to the yes"
Hillary hasn't been winning on the issues, so she's tried many different tactics to do what she can like:
> the soft-spoken Hillary
> the angry militant Hillary
> the Obama is inexperienced Hillary
> the Obama is a great guy Hillary
> Hispanics generally don't like Black's Hillary
> Obama's only popular because he's black Hillary
> the years of experience I can't disclose of yet Hillary
> the give me my delegates in Florida and Michigan Hillary
it's enough to make Sally Fields jealous Jack
Hillary is a woman and I know how hard a woman will work to get or destroy what she wants. come on other women come clean you know how devious we are admit it set yourself free. and come to the dark side may the force be with Obama I am. love the world so help me God
While I do believe that she is in this race to win, and she has went through some extremes (that maybe even she will call back if she could), I do however believe in her right to stay in the race BASED ON THE ISSUES!!! My contention with Hillary came when she turned negative on a personal level, and endorsed McCain over Obama, that is when she went too far. I AM AN OBAMA SUPPORTER 100%, but she does have the right to stay in the race, as long as she stays relevant, and to the ISSUES (and she clearly has not done that).
STOP THE HATE, VOTE OBAMA 08!!!!
"Would Clinton do anything to win?"
Rhetorical question.
Jack, is it a question? She said it by herself:" I am in to win". What else are u expecting?
she will do anything to get the win
god people do we want another clinton under the desk in the oval office.
Yes I agree.
She doesn't respect the rules,
She keeps changing the Spin to define who is ahead.
The lowest of low was when she said McCain was better than Obama at ntl security.
Based on Hillary desperation moves over the past several weeks and the way she has mishandled the money and here campaign, I am convinced that she would do anything short of killing her mom and tosing Billy boy under the bus to win the nomination. So where does leave what she would do against Obama. God please help us.
I think Hilary is unscrupulous enough to try doing anything, but whether she could get AWAY with it is something else again. I try to like her, but something about the way she let her husband's infidelity roll off her back and lead her to the senate (that's right, I said it, she got seat because of Bill) puts me off. I wish we had better people to choose from, but unfortunately the people that have the most sense aren't millionaires.
Yes, I do think she'll do anything, and it's to further her own self-motivated ambition, not because of a sense of civic duty.
Regarding Hillary, my mind is stuck in a moment in time last fall when she was on TV saying, "when I am President, and I WILL be President..."
That was all I needed to hear from her to know that for her, it's not about what the country wants, it's what Hillary wants.
Yes Jack, I agree and think she is more than prepared to tear the party into pieces. How? Ask the leaders that have appeared too afraid to call sen. Clinton to order as she continue to make a nonsense of the rules of the party. She has changed goal post of the primary several times since the primaries and causes started, she has called the caucauses undemocratic and she has said that there is no point competing for certain states because in her judgement, those states can never vote for the democratic party. What a desperate and divisive candidate she is?
I find it hard to believe that I once contributed to Hillary's campaign, and now find that this Wolfson fellow, who is a press guy for her, is so irritating to many of us Democrats that I could not vote for her, but wish Wolfson would shut the F- UP !!!
Willing to do anything? That is easy you will find out in November how many republican voters there are in America, and all of the new Obama supports that do not have a devotion to the party will quickly become anti-clinton.
Every one of them will mobilize against her, it will not only be a landslide in the presidential election you will also see the impact into the senate and house Seats. McCain + Clinton = total republican domination.
As a Republican supporting Obama, I don't think it would be healthy to have that much republican control. That is what Rush and Laura are pushing for.
McCain + Obama race, It really wouldn't hurt my feelings one way or the other who wins.
I find it amazing that Hillary has suggested she should get the Florida and Michigan delegates when Barack Obama's name was not even on the ballot in Michigan and, following the rules set down by the DNC, he did not campaign in either state. Yes, I believe she would do just about anything to win the nomination but I hope the rules of fairness play out and Obama gets the nomination he deserves. I think a lot of her rhetoric has helped John McCain. As a Yellow Dog Democrat, I don't like a Democrat saying really bad things about a fellow Democrat.
As usual, you have to separate the lies from the truth. The truth happens to be that Hillary is the most capable, the most experienced, and would be the best president.
Race does not matter to me and I think Obama is a fine man and will have his chance......it just shouldn't be NOW! The Republicans are the ones that are willing to destroy anything and anybody to get what they want (it's been proven over & over again) and McCain, who used to be admired by us, has become one of their brown-nosing victims and will only follow along with Bush's plans. That leaves Hillary, the smartest, most capable, and who knows the Republicans and what they are capable of and exactly what she is up against!! GO HILL!!!
She obviously plays dirtier than he does, but we need to let this primary season play itself out before we can jump to any conclusions. Let the voters' voices be heard, and then we will see.
What is else is new? Hillary is like the uninvited guest who refuses to leave or the two year old throwing a " me,me, me" tantrum. Now I have something to do until Pensylvania, I am going to learn how to play cribbage so I could make sure Billary don't cheat....lol
Marjorie
New York
I think the fact that her campaign is activley picking at the scars of Florida and Michigan to stir dissent ,despite the possiblity of significant gains for her, is an indication that party strife is of little concern to Sen. Clinton
Yes she will. There is no chance that she can get the nomination without flat out stealing it. If that happens then I will vote for McCain not Hillary.
Jack,
Most likely, Clinton will lose the pledged delegate vote and assuming the Super Delegates vote the will of the party (as they should), Obama will likely be the nominee. If Hillary should then make an independant run for the White House, then you'll have the answer to your question.
Mike C.
Cleveland, OH
There is no doubt in my mind she would. This woman is nothing the absolute worst representative of women that could possibly be chosen as or next President. Her rhetoric that she is more qualifed to become president, especially with her foreign realtionship experience is laughable!. Most voters are too intelligent not to see through her claims of being our best hope, when she is clearly no more of a buffoon than was her husband!
Absolutely she'll do anything to win. She wants to change the rules for Florida and Michigan in hopes she'll garner delegates; she is withholding her financial information; she's only releasing the earmark dollars that were approved this year; it took a court order to get her archived schedule released. What is she hiding?
I think Hillary will do anything to win the democratic normination and destroy Obama's chances if he is the norminee to win the general election. It is hard to believe that she would ever support Obama. If Hillary goes down she proably take the democratic party down with her.
Jack, I think the real question is, will you do ANYTHING to stop Hillary Clinton from winning? You are the most biased of all CNN reporters in support of Obama (and that's really saying something!).
I thought the Obama campaign didn't engage in negative politics.
This statement appears to be what they've been trying to avoid.
Yes Jack, she is willing to do anything to win, including using 'Rovian' tactics to throw anyone under the bus.
Isn't it telling that she put the GOP candidate in front of her opponent by basically saying if I don't get the nomination, then John McCain should?
This is why her negatives are so high; people are tired of the old style politics and need a change.
Yes, Clinton would do anything to win. As a woman, I would love to vote for the first woman president if she were qualified and I trusted her...not this year though.
No, Hillary would not destroy the Democratic Party. She is naturally in the race to win or she wouldn't and shouldn't be in it. She is qualified and that is why she is running and will get my vote. You are such an obama supporter that you can't say one good thing about Senator Clinton and that is such a shame. A person in your position should not be on the air and show such bias. If you want to vote for obama, that is certainly your prerogative as is voting for Senator Clinton is for me, but it should not be your prerogative to shove him down the throats of the CNN viewers. Thank gosh for FOX, whom I never though I would watch but have turned to more and more and eventually will leave CNN altogether.
I sincerely disagree with those who try to show Hillary Clinton in the worst light they can think of. Here is a woman whom we've known publicly for 15 years, and despite being hounded almost daily throughout her 8 years as first lady, has retained her dignity and class. In addition to her years as first lady, she has represented the people of New York as senator, and her hard and diligent work has been outstanding. She is smart yet sensitive; she knows what it means to have to work hard to produce positive results. And despite what Jeremiah Wright said about her in comparing her to Obama, this woman has worked extremely hard to gain her achievements.
She has now been endorsed by over 30 military officers, including two of the country's most popular generals, Wesley Clark and General Shelton. As for those who say they are among the older women who will NOT support her, let me speak for myself. At age 79, I've seen candidates and electees come and go. I have never seen anyone whom I'd rather see as a leader and representative of this great country. And I'm not the only one. Older Texas females joined me and turned out in great numbers to contribute to her win here. And finally, she has treated her opponent Obama with class on every occasion. I can't say the same thing for him, his campaign supporters and some bloggers who seem to delight in calling her names she does not deserve.
I am a Democrat who supports Obama. It is perfectly understandable that Clinton – who embodies the yearnings of a generation for a competent woman president – will make sure the delegate math truly will not work out before giving way to another candidate. If she denies the reality of that math for very much longer, however, then it could rightly be said that she will say anything to avoid dealing with reality.
I agree 100%. The Clintons have used every tactic imaginable (and some are right out of the Republican campaigning playbook) to make Obama look unpresidential. Obama has put forth an enormous amount of effort to stay on high ground but has been forced to address issues that have been needlessly, and in some cases inappropriately, thrown at him.
Didn't Hillary say that if she didn't win Texas AND Ohio, she'd concede? Just to point out – she didn't win Texas!
I honestly believe the Clinton Campaign will use the Wright controversy against Barack in closed door meetings with the Superdelegates. what you don't imdersyand is that the Clintons have promised a lot of people jobs and connections where they thought the nomination is inevitable. To have it won away from them is simply unacceptable. What i really dislike about this whole thing is Hillary acting like she is entitiled to the post. She stayed with Bill because she wanted to. Do the American people have to reward for her decision. I say no!
I absolutely agree. She has already done everything so far. She has endorsed McCain over her fellow democratic Barack Obama. She is throwing the kitchen sink and toilet into this campaign and it is just plain ugly. But the fact she is doing every behind the scene thing she can to just manipulate this election is horrible. It is undemocratic.
However, the worst thing of all is that she is willing to tear down the entire democratic party if she is not the nominee. And that will hurt this entire nation if we have a Republican back in the White House at this moment in time.
If the tables were turned and Obama had lost this many delegates and had lost this many states, he would have been asked to step down. Hillary refuses to acknowledge she can't win and step down. Her choice is to manipulate the vote or destroy.
I have forgotten what exactly Hillary is standing for in this election, what is her message. She found her voice in New Hampshire and there has been nothing but mud slinging ever since. Can we please get back to what is important to the American people and that is leadership. Hillary's campaign has no signs of positive leadership qualities. What Obama did today, agree or diasgree with what he said, but he showed leadership and a willingness to discsuss difficult issues. Hillary will say and do anythng to win and she will destroy people and political parties along the way.
Jack-
It has been Hillary Clinton's lifelong goal to get to this point. Why would she stop her bag of tricks now? She'll do anything to get the president, even if that means disenfranchising voters.
Hillary knows that most intellegent Americans are sick of the Republican lies and decieat and will vote for whoever is running agianst mcbush-cheney-kill eveyone. She know that if she can pull off a kathern harris people will have no choice but to vote for her to stop the republican maddness of the bush sr. and jr years
It certainly looks that way. She has tried to change the rules so many times it's hard to keep up with what she actually thinks. Delegates are most important . I meant popular vote. I meant superdelegates. I mean Florida and Michigan should stand as is. I mean we should have a revote. I led the charge to......fill in the blank. She somehow made it happen.She now has even republicans turning out in big numbers for her.....until the general election. Good grief.
Dion
Waynesville, NC
Anything you can do Jack to villainize her....You throw some poor obama question out there and then your next question if set to make it appear like it is all Hillary's fault. You are an evil man. Would you want your daughters treated as badly as you are treating Hillary? She is running for president Jack and so is Obama...just come right out and endorse him. You are once again...STILL PATHETIC.
If Obama keeps making statements like that , he'll go down in flames as fast as Dean! Hillary,"The Iron Maiden" will do whatever it takes, but won't destroy the Democratic Party, only her opponent. Be it Senator Obama(Mr. Fluff), or whomever gets in her way , and that is what I want for a leader in todays "World"!
both demos.will melt away into the sunset..never to be heard from again...come
november its McCain for sure.
Ist so obvious...Are these 3 clowns the best we can come up with for president....so sad.
NoJack. She just wants what is rightly hers. It's not the fault of the voters of MI ans Fl, that thier legislatures chose to change their primary dates.She won both states fairly and she deserves the delegates from those states. Obama wants to split them.Just as soon as he splits the delgates from the all of the caucus's that his thugs threatened them if they didn't vote for him. Sounds fair to me, how about you Jack?
Doing anything to win is built into her DNA, same as Bill but maybe even deeper. Its called narcisism – which when the person is deeply affected the person is wholly blind to. "People of the lie" – for whom the whole world revolves around a very small self that must be bloated beyond recognition, or the small self dies. For Hillary, this is a battle for survival – and yes, she will do anything, whatever necessary to win.
Hillary has enough tricks up her sleeve to keep things off balance for Obama as they get closer to the convention. Being married to former President Clinton who I always considered a "polictical weasel" how can she not have learned a lot of when to do this and when to do that to her opponent and then lie about it!!
I absolutely agree–Look at what they have done so far with the kitchen sink strategy; look at how she said that John McCain and her have more experience than Obama and worst of all she wants Michigan votes to count even though she signed a pledge stating otherwise plus Obama wasn't even on the ballot.
It sounds like a self defeating proposition. Destroying the party seems like a weird way to win their say. Once the party is destroyed it is unwinnable. Therefore, I am strongly doubtful that the campaign will overlook this premise.
I suppose Obama will only do what is right to win ??
All the questions on this site favor Obama. This Fox news ???
Does he plan to bring this country together takeing his children to hateful sermons ????
Yep. She will.
no body can beat slick willie ,they both fraud
To put it lightly, She is a very divisive person, and yes, will do just about naything to get it, and then there. Very dangerous indeed.
Between Clinton and Obama, I initially had no preference one way or another. (I would have preferred Biden, Dodd or Edwards.) On the issues, it's a draw. But I have really been discouraged by what I've seen from the Clinton camp since Super Tuesday and I do believe that she will do whatever necessary to win. This will turn off many of the people that Obama has brought into the party as well as many long-time Democrats. I think it will do serious damage to the party and to our chances of winning in the fall. I would rather see an issues based campaign focused on what each candidate feels they can do for the country rather than dragging each other down.
Something about the pastor is not being said: He mentions Fidel Castro and Chavez as martyrs of the US! How can he think these pair of communist dictators are our victims?
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Not to me. But it matters, for the first time in history black people will have a role model bigger than Michael Jordan and snoop dog; in my opinion that will do a lot for those black kids growing up right now.
Hillary Clinton will do anything to get back to the White House. Diversions, mistruths, half-truths, dodging issues, hiding facts, crying one day, yelling the next.
If she wins the nomination, I will always feel she stole it. I will never believe it was above the board.
yes if you told her she win the white house if she would be ken star are a monster she would be president elect ken star/monster she's out there
Yes. Clinton has already done damage to the Democratic Party. Her "campaign" dealt the race card in South Carolina, belittling Rev. Jesse Jackson's victory there in 1988. She continues to discount the States that Obama has won with the support of blacks as not being important. If she wins the nomination she will lose the black vote–and mine.
What you have to understand about Hillary is that she has been planning this since she talked Bill into running for the office. The plan was that Bill be president for 4-8 years and Al Gore be president for 4-8 years and then Hillary would take over. Since Gore blew it on his chance she had to go to plan B, go to the weakest Democratic held seat in the senate and knock him out and then run for president on her own in the next election. She will not quit even if she is not select for her party, she will just come up with a new party or go as a write in. God help us all if she somehow manages to get into the White House again, she did enough damage the last time as First Lady (and I use the term in respect for the title not her). I am a Republican by choice but I will vote for a GOOD candidate regardless of party, gender or race, but I will NEVER vote for Hillary, EVER.
There can be no doubt she would do anything to win. Her kitchen sink stinks so bad you'd think something crawled up into and died, been rotting there for seven years at least. Maybe its her revisionist history of her last stay at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave; that surely stinks a lot.
Maybe you should hunt down the woman that called into New Hampshire Public Radio and asked Hillary last October about her intents regarding the honoring of her pledge to follow DNC rules, see what she thinks now.
I can't believe the party elders aren't stepping in, I can't believe that we have to watch the Democratic party implode once again. Shame on the Clintons, dragging all of this negativity into the race. It's one thing to stay in and stay competitive, quite another to run this smear campaign that she is on. If the tables were turned and Obama was this far behind, would everyone not be screaming for Obama to get out of the race?
Yes act like a desperate housewife which she does again and again.
I think barack hussein obama is one angry man. watch his speec today and compare it with his other speeches. pastor wright has brain washed him . you just don't compare someone like pastor wright to your GRANDMOTHER if you love her. my GRANDMOTHER loved me to and she loved AMERICA to. i'm glad he confessed today that he had heard pastor wright say those words before. i wonder what else he knows about this man .maybe it will come out later. if clintons pastor had said something like that the blacks would already be marching. thats what makes me so mad. it's time for the whites to rise up and let people hear what we think.......Be Smart VOTE CLINTON 08............thelma.....ky.
Yes, and she couldn't care less if she destroys the Democratic party in the process either. She believes she has a right-to-rule. The DNC should force her to drop out immediately.
jack...of course she will do doing anything to win, she is a fighter, the most intelligent and she will win..i bet that will shut you up for a long time, so layoff of her and pick on someone else..
I'm surprized the Clintons have not had Obama "taken out" to get the nomination. Hey Jack, While we are on the subject, What about those tax returns? Is she making her money of oil futures or is there something else she don't want us to know?
Yes, she would do anything, and she is running out of "anythings." No redo of FL. No delaying the Texas Caucus results. Not stacking up a lot of Super Delegates. Subtle hints that Super Delegates will go with the voters' desires.
Frankly, it is scary how delusional she is and how irrational her methods are. At 3:00 a.m. when the phone rings, I want that brilliant, patient, rational man I heard give a historical speech today to answer the phone. I don't want one of the multiple personalities of Hillary to answer, and I am a woman–a woman who is willing to wait for the RIGHT woman for president.
That's a fact Jack! The Clintons ill stoop as low as thy have to to get where they need to go. They have no regard for people, voters, party affiliation or anything of that kind. It is about them and only them. Hillary has already done enough damage to the democratic party as far as many of us are concerned. It seems to be the topic of politics lately. Many of my friends who voted for Bill Clinton and loved him while he was in office, have now turned against them becuase of their behavior in this primary. Most of us have been totally discussted with Hillary's down right dirty tactics and her evil ways. She can smile all she wants, she can make speeches all she wants, she can tell people about the latest economy issues(as if we are waiting fo rher to tell us) and whatever else she does on the campaign trail, but most of us(the smart ones ) we know! we know what Hillary cares about and how low she'll go. And yes, she will make it her business to ruin the democratic party if she is not nominated. She has been and will continue to show us ALL her true colors, Not to worry!
she will do anything to get the job just as bill did anything he could to save his job. they are cut from the same cloth.
Hillary will play as dirty as she has to or stoop as low as she can go to win the presidency. She has no shame nor does she have a conscious. I have done enough research on her to be assured that she and Bill should never be permitted to occupy the Whitehouse again; ever.
After South Carolina, Hillary knew she had lost the African American vote, so her campaign started a "black/brown debate" kicked off by whispers from her staff of "will Latinos vote for a black man?" She beat Obama with Latinos. She's out of Latinos now.
So now we hear the beginnings of the Black/White debate, kicked off by the Hillary supporting Governor of PA whispering about white Pennsylvanians who will not vote for a black man.
No democrat wins in November without the African American vote, and Hillary's campaign is now dumping on them twice. That's very short thinking. That's destroying the party to get the nomination, but then lose the general election.