February 7th, 2008
05:51 PM ET

Could Democratic race get ugly?

Democrats’ 2004 convention in Boston, Massachusetts. (PHOTO CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES)

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

This thing between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton could get really ugly.

Here's the scenario: the race between them remains tight. They go to the convention in August where the nomination could depend on the votes of the 796 super delegates, who can ignore the wishes of the voters.

Experts worry it could send an awful message to the voters, of an old-school, corrupt system of smoke-filled rooms where the party bosses, instead of the voters, make the decision. Which is precisely what would happen.

But it won't happen if Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean has anything to say about it. Dean is hopeful the Democrats will have a nominee – either Clinton or Obama – in the middle of March or April. But if they don't, he says they're going to have to get the candidates together and make some kind of "arrangement." I wonder what that would be.

Dean says he doesn't think the party can afford to have a big fight at the convention and then go on to win the general election against the Republicans in the next 8 weeks.

Not to mention the fact that the Republicans nearly have their nominee, John McCain, sealed up.

A brokered convention hasn't happened in U.S. presidential politics in decades. They tend not to be pretty.

Here’s my question to you: What should the Democrats plan to do if neither Hillary Clinton nor Barack Obama can win enough delegates to capture the nomination?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

David writes:
I'm 22, I live in Louisiana and in a couple of days I will cast my very first vote in our primary for Barack Obama. If this comes down to superdelegates and they do not pick whoever the majority of voters picked, it will be my very last vote.

Tracy from San Diego writes:
Obama and Clinton should make a tactical decision that insures Democrats will hold the White House for 16 years. Clinton (President), Obama (Vice President). After Hillary cleans up the mess left by Bush, Obama can run for President having gained the experience he lacks now.

Lesley from Vancouver writes:
Some Americans seem to be voting on emotion rather than intellect. The race has been a bit more like "American Idol" than a run for one of the most powerful positions in the world. If the superdelegates are "on the scene" and know the candidates on the job, why not let them add to the equation – assuming they can keep THEIR emotions in check!

Stephen writes:
The race already is ugly and will get worse. Howard Dean should have a meeting with Clinton and Obama and force them both to step down in favor of Al Gore!

Brad writes:
If the Democrats are smart, they would assess the national landscape to see who would more likely win the presidential race, and choose wisely.

Dave from Santa Cruz, California writes:
Jack, As far as I'm concerned, flip a coin. I'll take either of them over McCain or anyone who says we may be in Iraq for 100 years, wants to deny women the right to make their own choices concerning their bodies, and anyone that is willing to change our Constitution regarding marriage, etc., because they insist everyone live by their rules and only their rules.

Steve writes:
Jack, Our current president was selected by five Supreme Court justices. At least 800 Democratic superdelegates would be an improvement.

Filed under: Barack Obama • Hillary Clinton
soundoff (127 Responses)
  1. Diane

    That's an easy one Jack, – Rock, Paper, Scissors.................

    February 7, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  2. Yvonne

    Allow Canadians to vote and make the final decision.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:33 pm |
  3. Jordan

    I think they should look and see who has the most primary victories. Right now, that is Barack Obama; and based on polling it would appear that that will be the case at the end of the primary season. The fact is, either Barack or Hillary will be able to carry the coastal states during the general election, but many people see Obama as the one who can galvanize the youth and the African-American vote best in November, giving the Dems a better chance of winning some typically Red states.

    -Jordan from Kentucky

    February 7, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  4. Terry North Carolina

    They can flip a coin, dont worry neither of them will be the next president.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  5. GR

    Simple. Let the people decide. Count the popular vote. It's what we should have done in 2000 and should be doing now and forevermore. Abolish super delegates, electoral college and all that stuff that was designed to tilt elections.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  6. paul W.Dc


    they should give the nomination to Hillary.................Barack can have it the next time. Clearly they both deserve to be President. Barack will still be in his 50's and plenty young to run the country. The Vice Presidency would be a great place for him gain experience and fill out his resume.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
  7. Jeff K.

    They had better start working out now on the "heavy bag" in the basement because it's going to be an all out slug fest.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  8. Lizzie

    You make an excellent point and as a loyal democrat that is my biggest fear. The lack of unity in the democratic party will put another republican in the white house. Clinton & Obama must unite, whether it's on a same ticket (per your blog from yesterday) or in other capacities. They need to put the ego's aside, and those of their spouses, and unite the country. The party needs to make a decision well ahead of the convention. It will be too late then.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  9. W B in Las Vegas

    sober up and bring back John Edwards. both Clinton and Obama have stolen all his ideas anyhow so why not run the candidate that is REAL change?

    February 7, 2008 at 2:43 pm |
  10. Mary Steele Yorktown VA

    Go to Mexico, since they care more about the illegals here, than they do their own legal citizens that have lost their jobs to them and too many guest workers.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:44 pm |
  11. Aisha

    The nomination should automatically go to Obama! Hillary has had her chance in the White House, even if she wasn't the President. Or was she? I think the United Stated needs someone with new visions, and dreams.We have had the same Bush/Clinton administration for almost 20 years, and things have not changed for the better. So let's stop looking to the past, and to our future with CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!


    February 7, 2008 at 2:45 pm |
  12. Mary Whartnaby

    Jack – perhaps too early for that decision...many changes can take place
    before the final election.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:46 pm |
  13. Eugene in Northern California

    Jack, the delegates will be evenly spread between the two of them, so the winner should be determined, by the will, of the people. America wants change and Obama offers much more change than Hillery. Obama is the man

    February 7, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  14. jack


    the dems have an iside track to the white house now and they'd be fools to squander it.howard dean will have to sit down with the two of them and explain that the party will have to rally around one of them in the spring. otherwise mccain will be able to gain an advantage. thats the last thing they want to see.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  15. Judy

    I know it's a truly radical idea, but how about if we let the people decide? Disregard delegates and super delegates and choose as the nominee the person who has received the most votes from the people. It's fair and hard to argue with.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:52 pm |

    how about a duel? when it's over (with any luck at all) the democrats will have only one candidate.
    john edwards.

    February 7, 2008 at 2:55 pm |
  17. Suzanna Doiron

    I certainly don,t want those "Super Delegates" making the choice.I believe in the end it will be FLORIDA,FLORIDA,FLORIDA.
    How Sweet It Is.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:00 pm |
  18. Larry D


    Hillary & Obama should decide on there own whats best for this country the both of them would make excellent Vice Presidents or Presidents. This will be a tough battle but whoever comes out of this, they both should keep each other in mind. Because they will need all the power they can get to beat Mccain if he becomes the republican nominee.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  19. mychoice


    They should penalize Hillary Clinton for keeping her name on the Michigan ballot and for campaigning in Florida against what the DNC had asked and she had agreeded to do, and give those delegates to Barack Obama. They should line up the superdelegates behind Barack Obama and keep Clinton as far from the White House as they can to insure a democratic administration in '08. Hilary on the ticket will guarantee a republican victory in November. Myself and many other democratic white women over 55 will vote for McCain over Hillary if it came to that. Also, many of my republican friends have told me they will vote for Obama over McCain in November if they have that choice. If the DNC wants to win the White House we need Obama on the ticket. Hopefully women will wake up and stop voting gender bias, Latinos will realize that when Obama speaks of uniting and caring about all people that includes them, and the low income familes will realize that when Hillary talks about universal health care it will cost them forcefully from their paychecks if needed to fulfill her agenda and she isn't going to pay their mortgage payments for them. If that happens he will win overwhelmingly in the upcoming primaries and the DNC's intervention will be a non-issue.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:04 pm |
  20. Norman

    Don't worry they (the party leaders) will dictate a nomination of the two to run. Too much of an opportunity to have power over the executive branch and the legislative branch to let it go.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  21. Independent Fred

    From my understanding, most of Obama's votes are coming from new voters and Independents. Hillary has been in the establishment for a long time and it would not be fair, but they should nominate Obama. If the establishment chooses Hillary, I see where a bunch of the mostly moderate “New Democrats” could feel cheated and would have no problem voting for a candidate like McCain. Worse still if the Republicans woo these new disenfranchised voters, the Democrats will be facing an uphill battle for years to come.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
  22. Tom A

    They should let the people decide. You can't include the results from Michigan or Florida, since an agreement had been reached to strip them of the delegates. I don't care what one of the candidates says, there was time to fall inline with their party rules and to have the primaries actually count.

    That said, once the candidates make it to the convention, I say nominate the candidate that has the most ACTUAL delegates. No one wants this nomination decided by superdelegates.

    Let the citizens of the United States who voted decide.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:09 pm |
  23. Patricia

    If I were Sen. Clinton I would stop right now & let Obama have the ticket. He can whip John McCain fair & square just on the Iraq war.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:09 pm |
  24. Greg from PA

    They might think about nominating Al Gore or Michael Bloomberg instead.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  25. Beverly

    Yes I think so, Clinton will say and do anything to get back into the Whitehouse so she can cause on her own more scandals, why isnt that talked about, , it appears to me that the democratic party always has the ability to have it in their hands and have it over, Obama had better put his seat belts on.

    Beverly from Chi Town

    February 7, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  26. Matt A.

    Bring back Al Gore to slug it out with John McCaine.

    Hillary and Barack would be too worn out to be worth much in November.

    We can dream, right?

    February 7, 2008 at 3:14 pm |
  27. Joanna

    Have rock, paper, scissor contest... pull straws... or WAIT! Go by popular vote!

    No... That would make too much sense... why give people true democracy?? That's just plain silly!

    February 7, 2008 at 3:15 pm |
  28. Lori Sadowski

    Isn't it obvious that the delegates should go to Obama by the way he can unite people, get people to the polls and raise so much money from the public and not depend on the lobbyist for support? We need real change and not the same old politics the Clinton's have to offer.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:19 pm |
  29. Donald, Butte Montana

    If neither candidate has the necessary majority to win the nomination outright prior to the convention then I propose that no 'super-delegate' votes be counted.

    The candidate with the most votes should be the nominee with an accomodation for the runner-up as either VP or influence on the ticket.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:23 pm |
  30. Jimmy

    The Democrats should pick the only candidate that can take the White House, Obama. In the past the decision of which way to vote has been to pick the least dispicable person. Between McCain and Hillary it's lose-lose.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:27 pm |
  31. Karen Las Vegas

    They should have a brokered convention. How exciting for all of you in the media! Isn't this what you have wanted from the beginning? We all know these elections are not about the voters.
    The media and the party bosses have been determining the nominee for years. Let's be honest about it. Do we want the secretive and manipulative media brokering or the fight it out convention brokering?
    Keep this in mind, when Abe Lincoln went to the Republican Convention, he was not truly thinking he would be running for President, yet, he walked out with the nomination. If Edwards shows up to the convention, anything could happen.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:29 pm |
  32. Raphael

    Jack, the choice of a Presidential candidate will be brokered before or at the Democratic convention, and should depend on which individual the party believes will be most able to capture the White House. I would want to see Edwards run for President with Clinton as his running mate.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:32 pm |
  33. David Richards

    Whoever has the most delegates after Pennsylvania should be the nominee. But if it's not Hillary you can bet she won't bow out gracefully. With her ambition, she'll rip the Democratic Party apart before she quits. And if she wins the nomination, John McCain will be the next President of the United States.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:33 pm |
  34. Bill from Tennessee

    Maybe I'm a simpleton, but if neither candiate has the majority of delegates to win the nomination and to prevent mayhem if the super delegates end up nominating either Obama or Clinton, just count up all of the popular vote each candiate accured during the primary season, less Florida and Michigan. The one who has the most popular votes is the nominee. That way the voters actually chose the candidate and their vote actually counted. What a concept!

    February 7, 2008 at 3:33 pm |
  35. JoAnn in Mason City, Iowa

    I don't want to see a brokered convention. I also don't want to see an ugly fight over those Michigan and Florida delegates. Those states knew the rules when they decided to move their primaries ahead of Super Tuesday. I think, as people get to spend more time getting to know Barack Obama, he will continue to gain support. In a perfect world, Hillary, who is too much a Washington insider, will bow out gracefully and throw her support to Obama. He has the momentum and he is attracting hordes of new people to the Democratic party.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  36. Ron Bennett

    Raise money... They may be all tapped out.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
  37. Brian, Spring Hill, FL


    If Hillary or Barack end up each without enough delegates the DNC should abolish itself and let the popular vote decide. These delegates are nothing more than a bunch of name dropping, coattail riding bunch of idiots. The only thing they are interested in is how much partying they can get in during the convention and with whom they can have a photo taken with. What a waste of money. If the popular vote was used the true choice of the party would be the nominee. Let's get rid of the party bosses and really let the people decide. Gee that sounds too much like the way a true democracy works. Imagine that.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  38. Rosalynd Rucker


    The Voters in each state with given pledged delegates need to decide who gets the Democratic nomination not some group of super delegates or states that moved up their Primary. I am an Independent voter who plans to vote Democratic in this election mostly because I am impressed with Barack Obama's position on the Issues. If the DNC allow the votes in Michigan, Florida or Super delegates to decide who gets the nomination then the Dems will not get my vote!

    February 7, 2008 at 3:44 pm |
  39. Jorge from Monterey California

    This is simple! Hillary must drop out NOW! she does not have the support of the people, she does not have the youth of america on her side, she doesn't care about the American people... this whole thing is her own quest for Greed!!! She should be like Romney and accept that she does not have the momentum or the support of the real people of America! She must DROP OUT NOW!!!
    Obama just raise $7,600,000 in two days! and she is putting money from her own pocket! money from all those shaddy deals of Bill Clinton!

    February 7, 2008 at 3:44 pm |
  40. Chinyere from Brooklyn

    Jack, I think you've said it already, Howard Dean has to get Hillary and Barack to come to an arrangement that would resolve the battle no later than March/April. In an ideal world we would let the fight continue and determine the winner at the convention but that too brings its' own set of perils - the "super delegates" and the back room politics - so the best case scenario for both candidates, the Democratic Party and the Country, would be for Hillary and Barack to come to an agreement on who the Democratic Nominee will be if the voters can't by April.


    February 7, 2008 at 3:45 pm |
  41. Lucy Trachy

    Whoever has the most votes and delegates throughout this crazy race to the number 1 position should be the one heading to the White House. Hillary Clinton would be the best choice for president as when a house is a mess, the best person to clean up the dirty house is a woman. Its about time that North American begins to look at the mess that men leave behind when they leave their perch. That not only includes the United States, but also Canada. I would love to see a female Prime Minister.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  42. Judy from Coloma MI

    I know it's a truly radical idea, but how about if we let the people decide? Disregard the delegates and super delegates and choose as the nominee the
    person who has received the most votes from the people. It's fair and hard to argue with.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  43. Jason

    That wouldn't be a pretty picture, but I'd rather see a contentious convention than any kind of "deal". I would think they'd have to go with the candidate with the majority of earned delegates. Letting the superdelegates swing the nomination from one candidate to the other seems like a terrible precedent, and would likely drive away any independents.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  44. Chris

    Good question Jack, Maybe Dean plans on stepping up to the plate at a brokered Convention and getting the nomination himself. At this point I would believe just about anything from either of these two parties. Just picture the new battle cry of the Democracts.......YEE HAAAAWW. Chris in Clinton County NY

    February 7, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  45. Kevin- Webster, MA

    That's a good question, I don't believe the American people will feel their vote counted if this is decided by the super delegates. Maybe the total needs to be less, or high delegate count gets it. The larger delegate states do not represent the will of the rest of the country and should not be the be-all end all. Perhaps the whole system as well as electoral college votes in the main election needs to be revamped. Just counting the votes cast by Americans should decide who wins should decide. Why did we go out and vote if it doesnot decide the winner.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:54 pm |
  46. Raphael from New York NY

    Jack, although Edwards bowed out of the race, he will not go away. The true dream ticket will be Edwards for President with Clinton as his running mate.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:55 pm |
  47. C. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    Call on John Edwards to make his endorsement for Barack Obama.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:55 pm |
  48. marcus


    February 7, 2008 at 3:55 pm |
  49. Ben

    They should give the candidate that has momentum the thumbs up. Clinton supposedly can't donate herself $5 million every month.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:58 pm |
  50. Carl

    Aren't you paying attention to all of the media spin? It's already been decided.

    If Clinton gets the popular vote and Obama the delegates, Obama supporters will demand all superdelegates default to Obama.

    If Clinton gets the delegates and Obama the popular vote, Obama supporters will demand all superdelegates default to Obama.

    If Clinton gets the popular vote and the delegates, Obama would have gotten it if he had more time, so Obama supporters will demand all superdelegates default to Obama.

    We're all forced to live in Obamaland whether we want to or not.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  51. Will K. San Jose, CA

    If they were smart they would look at the total popular vote and make that the choice. That's the only simple to defend decision.

    The irony is they probably won't and the party that still complains about Al Gore winning the popular vote and losing the electoral college will do the same thing to it's own members.

    February 7, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
  52. experienceANDchange

    Their supporters have made it ugly.
    They have BOTH made it ugly.
    So much for unity in the party, and hope for America...unless of course they read your blog yesterday and they realize that the eventual winner will need a lot of support from the other. The "old" needs the "new; and, oh yes Obamania nation, the "new" needs the "old". It is not guaranteed as your hopeful leader seems to think.

    == "Old" Dem


    February 7, 2008 at 4:00 pm |
  53. Wise Merlin

    The democrats could shoot themselves in the foot by NOT coming together as a coheasive party by the people, of the people, and for the people. Maybe Ralph Nader has a chance to unite the country in a way that will help the country.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:00 pm |
  54. Abe

    Jack if the voters cannot decide than the super delegates will have to make the call. What we don't need is a big mouth Obama bias windbag like you telling us what to do.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
  55. Abe

    Jack if the voters cannot decide than the super delegates will have to make the call. What we don't need is a big mouth Obama bias windbag like you telling us what to do. Louisville Kentucky

    February 7, 2008 at 4:03 pm |
  56. gigi

    Since delegates are only tied to a candidate for one vote, they could then vote for whomever they wish. We could actually come out with either Al Gore or John Edwards (or both) as our nominee. Now that would be a dream team to me! Since both were "swift boated" in 2000 and 2004, that would be poetic justice.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:03 pm |
  57. bnthdntht

    I never consider Gore during the primaries,but if neither has enough delegates the right thing to do is go with Gore and Obama as his vice president. I don't think America can handle another eight years like the last eight years or even similiar to the last eight years. We don't even want McCain as our senator let alone our president.


    February 7, 2008 at 4:05 pm |
  58. Sandy

    There is one way out of all this mess that all reasonable people see. The DNC sees it as well. The questions we Democrats are asking ourselves now is whether or not the DNC is as corrupt and selfish as the Clintons are. How many more elections will they allow the Clintons to ruin for us? And how do they think the reps and senators will get re-elected if they lose half of their base? Think hard, folks.

    People, please wake up. What universe do you live in that you think we could possibly beat McCain with the name Clinton on the ticket?

    February 7, 2008 at 4:09 pm |
  59. Renee in Lexington KY

    Whoever has the fewest delegates by April becomes the Running Mate.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:09 pm |
  60. Paulette Bent Dallas,PA

    Yes Jack, it will get ugly. Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton will be politicking in that smoke filled room. Deals will be made and the American people will have to vote for the people these power brokers select. Hopefully they will implement a strategy that will knock the Republicans out of the White House for the next sixteen years. It will take that long to clean up the mess they have created in the past eight!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:11 pm |
  61. PB in STL

    The democrats should stick to the process that has been layed out for situations like this. The people of this country will not be satisfied with a back room deal for who their candidate is and if the democratic party chooses someone in that fashion they will be the worse for it come election day.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:13 pm |
  62. Ann, Newton, New Jersey

    Give up! We know that Hillary will NEVER let Obama run without a fight (especially with Bill behind her) and why should Obama give in to her just because she is a woman? Ladies first doesn't always matter. Obama feels he is strong enough to stand on his own. It could really get ugly there. The solution: Leave it up to the voters!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:13 pm |
  63. Bernadette/Florida

    Democrats should give Hillary the nomination. She has the popular vote. Obama gives good speeches but no substance. Hillary has the substance and know how.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:14 pm |
  64. Linda in Florida

    My Republican friends all want Hillary to get the nomination because they feel she will be easier to beat. What does that tell you?

    February 7, 2008 at 4:17 pm |
  65. Paul

    No advantage to the GOP for having a front runner when the DEMS have two excellent choices.McCain is Pro war,pro illegal alien,pro big business and besides hate radio hates him.He has no chance in Nov.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:17 pm |
  66. Barbara the Great Gram

    They both could run, Obama as the new start for America & Hillary, since she has been at this 35 years , she can have McCain run with her , he has been at this many years also ! God Help America

    February 7, 2008 at 4:17 pm |
  67. Shane in TX

    The Democratic system should operate as a winner take all (delegates) like the Republican system. The Dem party could still have superdelegates, however, who could vote as they please. If that were the case, Hillary would have been the decided nominee after Super Tuesday or at least have such a margin of spread that Obama would be flailing in the background muck like Romney and Huckabee are on the Rep side. Also, FL and MI delegates should be seated! This IS a democracy after all and their voters should have a say in the primaries just as they do in the general election. Shame on the Dem system for penalizing them! And I'm MOSTLY a Democrat myself, but ashamed about FL and MI not having a say and that we are not a winner-take-all system. Go HILLARY!!!!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:18 pm |
  68. Paul

    No the Republican's don't have an advantage because they know McCain is going to be their nominee. Why you ask, very simple, because John McCain is going to be the Republican nominee! I'm a life long Republican and there's no way on earth I would ever vote for him. Four years with him as President and we'll long for the George W Bush years. This year I vote Democrat.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:18 pm |
  69. Jeff in Connecticut

    If they were genuinely Democrats, and it came down to a stalemate, the "Super Delegates" should go for Barack Obama. However, knowing career politicians all have one thing in common..........political self-preservation, they'll probably go with Clinton because we all know she'll pander to them more.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:19 pm |
  70. Chris - Orlando, Florida

    All superdelegates should forfeit their right to vote at the convention, allowing the pledged delegate totals to stand.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:19 pm |
  71. Scott B

    Have a dance-a-thon and last one standing.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:20 pm |
  72. Kristy AZ

    The GOP ticket is going to need more than this if they are to keep the white house in November. Unfortunately Americans have caught on to their scare tactics. As you can see McCain went straight for the fear factor in his recent comments. They should re-think their policies, water boarding? 100 year wars? Tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans? FYI GOP, THERE IS A GREAT BIG INTELLIGENT AMERICA OUT HERE!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:21 pm |
  73. Christine from California

    Popular Vote should decide the outcome. Either one will beat the old guy, and I don't mean you, Jack!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:21 pm |
  74. Steve

    Keep the Stuper delegates out of their. The people of this country have fought and campaigned hard for each of the candidates and even crossing party lines. Whichever candidate has the most delegates at the end whether it meets their quota Or not should be nominated . Having any kind of backdoor deal that would change that can result, would burst the bubble of momentum for the Democratic party and throw it off track. Can you say President McCain ????

    February 7, 2008 at 4:22 pm |
  75. Richard Sternagel

    Jack, I think they should look to see who is most electable! In particular look at who can win some states in the south and west.The most baggage free candidate is Barack Obama! Hopefully,he will come out on top!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:24 pm |
  76. Shawn, Mundelein, IL

    Could the Democratic race get ugly with Hillary Clinton? Gee, do you think so?

    February 7, 2008 at 4:25 pm |
  77. JC from Lexington, SC


    The answer is simple...The DNC Should get on their hands and knees and beg John Edwards to be the Nominee, since he is the only Democrat that can actually win in the General Election. That would involve admitting they was wrong as we know Democrats, other than John Edwards, has a problem with admitting they are wrong. Edwards walking out with the nomination would be historic...don't you think?

    February 7, 2008 at 4:26 pm |
  78. Karen in Fairfax, CA

    But Jack, who gets to decide? I don't know which Democrats would be in a position to get The Party to do anything. Dean? I don't think so, though I delight in the irony of his position in this mess. The majority of party hacks are likely Hillary supporters, and if they come up with a plan perceived as favoring her, the Democrats will be just as bitterly divided as if there'd been a brokered convention.

    Maybe the better question is, 'Which candidate would be more able to heal the damage this race does to the party?'

    February 7, 2008 at 4:28 pm |
  79. Griffin, San Antonio, TX

    During the convention, in one of those smoke-filled rooms, they should duke it out in an oil wrestling match. Put it all on Pay-per-view and donate all the proceeds of the event to the national deficit...It will at least keep the Plebians entertained and maybe help rebuild the crumbling empire.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:28 pm |
  80. Griffin, San Antonio, TX

    Then we can all say it in unison: "It's getting ugly out there."

    February 7, 2008 at 4:30 pm |
  81. Martin, Michigan

    The superdelegates will need to figure out who's likely to win more electoral points in the presidential race.

    Most of Obama's wins have been in red states, which makes him very riskey for November. Clinton won blue states comfortably. She also did great in swing states like Florida, even better than the republican winner, making her a safe bet for the White House.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
  82. Narding

    It is very likely that the race will get very ugly but I think Senator Clinton will prevail.

    If Obama will be the nominee, I believe McCain will win the Presidency inspite of the problems he has with the conservatives of the GOP

    February 7, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
  83. Gino

    Well, it may look like both Senators Clinton and Obama will not have sufficient delegates to be nominated by the Democratic convention... sure they could make "peace" and decide that one of them be nominated as President and the other will take the vice-presidency... that could be a possibility... but I also think that whoever decided not to allow Florida and Michigan to get delegates screwed up! If I were in one of these two states and voted Democrat, I would be peeved that no delegates would represent my vote at the Convention... and I probably would not even vote on Election Day!
    Then this thing about delegates voting to find the one who will represent the party for the Presidency is stupid! I think that the election for the Presidency of the United States should not be in the hand of delegates and the so-called Electoral College, a President should be elected according to popular votes, period! But since this may not be done, at least this year, well, how about bringing Mr. Edwards back and have him run for President of the U.S.? I am sure he would be a good opponent to Senator McCain! He would win! He is for the people!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:33 pm |
  84. Denny D

    Obama needs to get John Edwards, Bill Richardson and Al Gore on-board. Obama's views and ability to bring people together would best accomplish the goals of all three.

    Obama should offer them key positions in his administration that would best suit their missions, goals and expertise. Doing so will help unite the party and focus on winning the White House.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:35 pm |
  85. Mike from Chicago Area


    I think that the longer the Democratic party continues the town hall meetings, and taking their platform to the American people, will pay-off in a BIG way, just look at the large number of people that are coming out to Senator Obama's town hall meetings, campaign events, and the record number of people voting in this Primary election.


    February 7, 2008 at 4:35 pm |
  86. Jayson from Indiana

    Yes, it could and it probably will. They stoop to low levels to get the other's supporters votes. They will anything and everything to become a winner. I am no psychic, but I believe that this race will get ugly. The "friendship" before and after the election is out the window!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:36 pm |
  87. Derek in Arkansas

    Get rid of the damn superdelegates and let the people pick their nominee. How about that?

    Seriously though, if it does come to blows, I expect Howard Dean to reign things in a bit. Our candidates are way to good to let another election slip away to the Republicans.

    Piggott, AR

    February 7, 2008 at 4:37 pm |
  88. cn

    It is important that the Democrats don't damage each other to get the nomination. Lets hope the DNC has the good sense to deny the Republicans who by nature are dirty campaigners any ammunition. It really doesn't matter who is the Democrat nominee, the issue is that this country desperately needs a Democratic president for the next 8 or 16 years to correct this wrong path that our country is on.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:40 pm |
  89. LeeAnn/PEI Canada

    Include all votes from every state that has voted including Michigan and Florida and see what the popular vote is after Pennsylvania. The person with the higher popular vote gets the nomination and the other is given the VP spot.
    If they truly care about the people, ALL of those who have voted and want to unite the party this seems like a good solution to me.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:40 pm |
  90. Chase Hardin

    They should surrender, Jack. They should bow down to the superior knowledge, intellect, and experience of the mighty Republican Party. Long Live McCain!

    Chase, Goodyear AZ

    February 7, 2008 at 4:44 pm |
  91. Kass

    Sudden death: Who can raise the most money in 24 hours II. The loser must forfeit their donations to the winner.

    I still think they should work together – they are both symbols of change for millions of people.

    Obama for minorities, immigrants, and people considered to be at the bottom of the barrell. Who ever thought that the direct fruit of an African, a Kenyan citizen, would be standing in a position to lead America.

    Hillary for the women and historically disenfranchised people in American politics. Remember that it was just in the last century that blacks and women were allowed to vote in this country. And now, a daughter of this dark period stands in a position to be president.


    February 7, 2008 at 4:45 pm |
  92. Amy S. in Washington

    What should they do? Let the people decide by the votes that have been and will be cast. What will they do? Let the political machine decide. Shady, back-room dealings, superdelegates deciding the nominee. Of course we all know the former co-presidents who have experience in shady, back-room dealings...
    Oh well, democratic party I hardly knew you; it'll back to independent-land for me.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:48 pm |
  93. Rosemary

    I hope the people can choose. But I don't want Florida and Michigan to decide because they broke the rules of the National Party. So Hillary should not be rewarded with Delegates when the other candidates played by the rules. If that turns out to be the case from Her Campaign. Then I think a lot of people will be angry and sit out of the election and the Republicans will win.

    So here's hopping the next contests will decide who goes forward. Hopefully Obama. No more Clinton Bush Dynasties.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  94. Al

    Novel idea...Let's have a convention. I mean a real convention where people speak on behalf of the candidates, make deals, hammer out platforms, get down to the nitty gritty of politics. Let's hear from party leaders and the candidates themselves as they try to pursade the delegates. Maybe the networks would actually cover more of it than just the acceptance speech. Maybe we would all learn a little more about how our democracy works...or how it should work. I look forward to it.

    February 7, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  95. john

    I don’t think it’s a secret that the republicans are fueling up the mud, slim and dirty trick machines. So let it be the survival of the fittest, the last democrat standing is the nominee. .

    February 7, 2008 at 4:53 pm |
  96. earl illingsworth

    Yes it could get ugly, if a clear cut winner doesn't surface soon? But, not to worry , the" Big Mo", is on Obama's side, and all the, "Smart Money" as well! I see Obama wrapping up the victory by next month and Hillary capituating for the good of the Democratic Party. The Delegates are Obama's to lose, and with Hillary financially wounded, and her messages, not really resonating? So, Jack get ready for the white flag, it,s a com'in!!!

    February 7, 2008 at 4:53 pm |
  97. Tosky ' Houston Texas

    I dont think there is anything to decide.The people want change, Clinton is taking money from the lobist and special interests in Wall street that means same old people . Now she is running out of money .Across the USA coast to coast individuals donating 25 usd, 50usd to obama campaign means the people want him. and he is winning too. so DNC should stop all this mess and count the states won and popular votes and give obama his win . the superdelegate thing aint working

    February 7, 2008 at 4:56 pm |
  98. Jason

    If the Dems play it right, this could get them the White house for sixteen years. Instead of bickering, they should keep it clean so that both sets of supporters will vote for a ticket with both of them. Super Tuesday showed that more people voted in the Democrat Primary than in the Republican Primary, so all they need to do is not alienate those voters and a combined ticket should sail into office.

    Oregon, Illinois

    February 7, 2008 at 4:57 pm |
  99. Alan-Buxton, Maine

    All candidates and all political offices should be elected by popular vote. I know politicians would be lost without making things so complicated that even they don't understand them but delegates, super-delegates and the electoral college are relics from the nineteenth century and should have been phased out long ago. Let the government be of the people, for the people and by the people and let the people make the decisions.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:00 pm |
  100. Amanda

    I believe that they are both going to end up on the same ticket. If not, we may be facing another 4 to 8 years of hell like we have endured during the Bush administration.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:00 pm |
  101. David from Oakland

    The best we can hope for is that Obama wins the rest of the states by huge margins, so Michigan and Florida delegates can be seated withhout changing the outcome.
    We need the voters from both states to be involved in the political process and not turned off.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:04 pm |
  102. Dolores Ward

    Ask obama to drop out and let a "qualified candidate" Hillary Clinton have the nomination. She is the only one that can beat the republicans. She has been baptized by fire already, they will crucify obama if he is the candidate.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:06 pm |
  103. Delmar

    Clearly Obama and Hillary should not get in a fight,but, instead go on stumping and let the American public select the one who will lead,,, do not do what the Republican party hopes for and destroy each other for them,, but hug, and speak respectfully of each other and then join togeather at the end to become the republicans worse nightmare, a team that will cruise into the whitehouse and then rebuild America,, best of wishes to them both,, let God decide!!!

    February 7, 2008 at 5:11 pm |
  104. Brian Nancoo - Trinidad

    They have to nominate one and they best wa to do so is to do it the democratic way. Have an open vote and majority wins.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  105. Betty

    I think the rules have been changed enough to accomodate Obama. Clinton was told to use kid gloves with him and I think that is rediculous. I haven't seen a decent debate yet. In my 52yrs. I have never seen such nonsense. Politics is a rough business. If Obama can't stand or stand up to the heat then he needs to excuse himself because there are actually alot of very difficult and unpleasant things a President has to do and endure. The Republicans sure aren't going to "make allowances for him" or play nice. I don't think the rules should change just because of Obama. Clinton should continue to go full speed ahead...if she is allowed that is. The rules should remain as they were set up.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  106. Dolores Ward

    The DNC has no right to take away the vote of any American, that includes Michigan and Florida . Every American who cast a vote should have their vote counted.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  107. joe m

    nothing. especially if it involves these super delegates. in the end if neither reach that magic number let the one with more ACTUAL won delgates declare victory. if they tie let a good old fashion coin toss decide the tie. a coin does not have an agenda and won't expect anything for its support; i know i can't say this for these super delegates. the super delegates are a poison pill to this democratic nomination.


    February 7, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  108. Daniel

    If Obama or Clinton fails then that would prove how divided the democratic party really is. If democrats can't win this election then the only hope for america is to have a GOP candidate that can truly unite the parties, but seeing how thats not likely to happen anytime soon our best bet is to buckle up and all go independent. This goes to show why a two party system is just not working.

    Daniel form Butte Falls, Oregon

    February 7, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  109. Fred


    Could it get any worse than it was a couple of weeks ago? I think it has to get better if we expect to take the White House back. And looking at who we most likely will be up against, McCain, we need to get serious. He won't even vote for his own constituents. What good will he really be? More war and less money for home.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  110. Gunther


    I'm positive the Democrats will some how foul this up if this. It is quite apparent that the Democratic Party has no problem alienating its voters. Just look at Florida.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  111. Paulette Bent Dallas,PA

    Yes Jack,it will get ugly. Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton will be politicking in that smoke filled room. Deals will be made and the American people will have to vote for the people these power brokers select. Hopefully they will implement a strategy that will knock the Republicans out of the White House for the next sixteen years. It will take that long to clean up the mess they have created in the past eight years!

    February 7, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  112. Rex in Portland, Ore.

    If neither candidate gets enough delegates to win the nomination something went terribly wrong somewhere. Of course there are a lot of delegates which may not have a vote – how could I forget? Well, Jack, if something goes terribly wrong within the
    Democratic Party – imagine that if you will! – I think we should draft the old work-horse Al Gore, saddle him up, and ride him all the way to the much deserved ouster of that Bush gang. Just who is to be the jockey is another problem. Perhaps you – or Lou Dobbs.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  113. John in Monterey,CA

    Jack, If the Super delegates are left with picking the candidate, and they do something stupid like trying to override the popular vote, then faster than Howard Dean can yell on stage, they are going to seriously upset those voters who will end up feeling like their vote never counted in the first place, and that what they think is less important than what some big headed, big mouthed Super Delegate like Bill Clinton thinks, and then the odds will be against a Democrat making it into the Whitehouse, because those voters who were cast aside wont even bother showing up to vote in November. If that happens, you and Wolf Blitzer call in sick on Election Day and meet me in Las Vegas, where we'll win big betting on a Republican to be the next President.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:22 pm |
  114. Jean Anderson, IN.


    I don't understand why the media is all in an uproar if there is not a clear front runner by the convention. What in goodness name is the purpose of the convention...to nominate a candidate right?

    A barn burner as in days past would be kind of fun.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:23 pm |
  115. Andrew, Tampa, FL

    Change the DNC rules: Let the popular vote decide, and ignore the superdelegates.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:23 pm |
  116. Theresa in Mississippi

    Jack, I heard Donna Brazile say yesterday that she would quit the democratic party if the nomination came down to super delegates, and as you know, she IS a super delegate and knew the rules, unlike most of the rest of us. The time to change the rules is not when you have to actually use them. I think going forward we should do away with super delegates and caucases because both are open to manipulation. Whoever wins the popular vote in this primary season should be the nominee and the other should be their running mate because we democrats are too fired up to lose either of these fine candidates.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:24 pm |
  117. Deb

    Obama should step down and support Hillary. She has won the bigger states, (including Florida and Michigan) she has more Super Delegates and she has the experience to do the best job on day one. Obama can take over from her when the time comes. Obama's popularity will not stand up to the Republican assaults. It's time to face the reality, people.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:26 pm |
  118. Frank Chase Jr, Huntsville, Al

    The delegates are inept and can't see as far as their nose. As a independant voter, I can see that Obama can win the White House. If it's given to Hilliary, all of the youth vote that Obama brought out will feel disenfranchised and especially the white voters will not vote for Hillirary and the rest will hand the Republican party the White House on a silver platter. The democrats will suffer the most crushing defeat of a life time and my never see the inside of the oval office for more than 20 years. The Obama people will not stand for getting disrepected by the old party bosses that are out of step with society. Obama has to be the one in order to win. If you really want to win, give it to Obama.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:26 pm |
  119. Jessica A from CA

    The race could get really ugly. Hillary, as shown in the past gets desperate and then goes to any measure to win. Crying in past has been her strong suit, as well as change her stance on policies. Who knows how low she is willing to stoop for what she wants? I fear for Obama.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:28 pm |
  120. Lacey Wagner

    Here is a novel idea......How about letting the people decide who they want to be the leader of The United States of america. Call me crazy, but I think it just might work. You know, us American people are not a bunch of idiots, we are capable of making decisions for ourselves.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:31 pm |
  121. simon

    let the latinos/spanish pick,they have more population now then blacks do!

    February 7, 2008 at 5:31 pm |
  122. baze

    You want my pick? Anyone but Barack!

    February 7, 2008 at 5:31 pm |
  123. Dorothy/ rural missouri

    Jack – Let the candidates pick their VP's and the Dems can have a run-off for the ticket – but if this turns into a 'Party Bosses' decision, I'll vote for McCain. Howard Dean has NO RIGHT to make that decision for us .

    February 7, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
  124. Daniel From Tempe AZ

    Put boxing gloves on both of them and let them go 10 rounds, I am picking Hillary to win it!

    February 7, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  125. David,San Bernardino,CA.

    Give the decision making to the Chinese. They own the United States anyway,lock,stock and politicians!

    February 7, 2008 at 5:34 pm |
  126. Mike Gill

    I believe that Obama should be made the democratic canididate and Hillary can be the VP. As he has said, he can get all of the votes that Hillary is getting. I think that most of the Democrats want to see change and Barack is that change. With Barack at the helm, and Hillary as his running mate, the republicans have no chance.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:35 pm |
  127. sheri

    we do not want a brokered convention to further divide the democratic party. the republicans will destroy obama if he is the nominee. too liberal and inexperienced. yes he is inspiring and gives a great speech, but no substance and no real command of the issues. i really don't see someone voting for mccain to simply vote against hillary. if you want peace a vote for mccain would not get that done. we do not need another inexperienced president that learns on the job. look where it got us last time. the clinton/obama ticket would be the way to go. obama can then get the experience he needs. can you imagine 16 years with the democrats in control? maybe we could finally get this country back on track.

    February 7, 2008 at 5:36 pm |