December 17th, 2007
01:51 PM ET

Ron Paul’s “money bomb”?


FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

"Ron Paul becomes the $6 million man."

That's the headline on The Politico about the Republican presidential candidate's astounding fund-raising accomplishment yesterday.

Paul did it again - raising more than $6 million online in a single day. That follows a fund-raiser last month that brought in about $4.2 million in a single day. The campaign says it’s raised more than $18 million this quarter. This could very well mean Paul will outraise his Republican rivals for the 4th quarter and be able to fund a presence in a lot of the states voting on February 5th.

Ron Paul has the kind of grass roots organization politicians dream about. In addition to his phenomenal fund-raising abilities, mostly among small individual campaign contributors, he has a devoted following that in any given moment can almost overpower the Internet.

Any time we mention Ron Paul's name on the Situation Room, his supporters immediately begin writing into us in droves. They're fanatic in their devotion to him and very appreciative of any mentions we have ever given him. It's a phenomenon unique to Dr. Paul. We talk about all the candidates all the time but we never get a response to any of the rest of them like we get to Ron Paul.

Nevertheless, most consider him a distant long-shot and he's stuck in the single digits in most national polls.

Here’s my question to you: If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he’s not higher in the polls?

To see The Cafferty file Video click here

Interested to know which ones made it on air:

Doug from Sierra Madre, California writes:
Not higher in the polls? It’s because Ron Paul doesn't appeal to most "right wingers". Mr. Paul makes sense and tells the truth, and that just annoys most Republicans.

Carlos writes:
Because he's not getting exposure in the mainstream media. The rise of Huckabee is a testament to this. As soon as his name started being mentioned every five seconds, his poll numbers rose. Just because Ron Paul is low in the polls doesn't mean he shouldn't get news coverage. Those who get to hear his message absolutely fall in love with him.

John from Keystone Heights, Florida writes:
Ron Paul isn't near the top of the polls for one good reason: his message sucks.

Doug from Sacramento, California writes:
As a liberal Democrat, I have watched Ron Paul over the last year. I don't understand why the media doesn't get that he represents a very disaffected segment of the Republican Party that hasn't had a real voice since Pat Buchanan in 1992… The Republicans operate like a massive corporation. And Ron Paul represents a shareholders’ revolt.

Lynnda writes:
I think the reason Ron Paul is no higher in the polls is because few Americans understand what Libertarianism is. It is much more in line with what our forefathers believed was important, but as a nation we have deviated so far from that original structure that today's Americans don't understand what it means.

J. writes:
He is not higher in polls because he is not supported by the Republican Party management - the wealthy, corporate types, the defense, oil and gas industries, etc. He seems to represent the common man who feels without a voice in the usual DC political circus.

Walter from Toledo, Ohio writes:
The reason we love Ron Paul is because he loves this country more than he loves himself.

Maybe Jack will read yours tomorrow.

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soundoff (1,097 Responses)
  1. John from Carlsbad, CA

    He is proving it takes more than money to be a presidential candidate. In order to get the nomination from either party, you need to pander to the base. He is not doing that. He is also not a good communicator. In the debates and in his campaign he comes across as the "crazy old uncle" nobody listens to. If he gets a new campaign staff that can teach him tone of voice, body language and presentation skills he might have a chance as an independent. Both parties are too entrenched to nominate anyone from the middle. Sad but true.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:00 pm |
  2. Bobby Dennis

    He may be low in the polls due to every time reluctant news stations report on Dr. Paul's success they preface the good news with "He Can't Win". Is it just me or does it seem like the rest of the news anchors read that every time they mention him.

    Cafferty you are the exception. You must have kept your freedom when you signed your contract with CNN.

    Did I mention they also like to ask if he will run as a 3rd party; I don’t know if Wolf can ask that question any more than he does? Seems like another way to discredit him.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:05 pm |
  3. Nick W.

    Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls because pollsters call likely primary voters. Many of the Ron Paul supporters I know have been apathetic to politics and have never voted in a primary before. In addition, Paul has more support from younger voters than the other Republican candidates and many of these people only use mobile phones; the pollsters only call land lines. Come election time, people will be in for a shock...

    December 17, 2007 at 2:07 pm |
  4. Lissa Nix

    Because many times, Dr. Paul's name is not included on the polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:08 pm |
  5. Jeff K.

    Because most people polled are registered Dems and Republicans. The place where a Ron Paul's strength lies is with Independents and the "American Underground Voters" (the ones that don't tell anyone what they are truly thinking but always end up creating the questions at the end of an election among the media-icons like "Why do you think it turned out the way it did? None of the polls showed this happening") . Americans as a whole are just genuinely tired of all the garbage that has become the political process in this country and all the trash that is given us after the election that we have to wade through just to get to the next election. Ron Paul seems like someone who will tell it like it is whether you like it or not and that's what we need. We have had enough of the "hide and seek" style administrations, the present one being the epitomy of hide and seek.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:09 pm |
  6. James

    Because the polls are the last buffer between perception and reality. Paul has a lot of money and ranks low in the polls, he gets no media attention. Huckabee has no money, ranks high in the polls, and turns the news into the Huckabee show. The polls are a way to control reality by controlling perception. I thought everybody knew this.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:09 pm |
  7. Alec Yeager

    Ron Paul attracts many younger voters who have either switched party affiliation to vote for him in this election (like myself) or who have never voted before. Pollsters typically call only registered Republicans who have voted in previous primary races, and they typically do not call cell phones which leaves out a lot of people under 30 who use cell phones exclusively. Ron Paul's support is being drastically underrated.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:10 pm |
  8. Kyle

    The "polls" aren't as indicative as people like to believe. A donation, or "putting of money where the mouth is" is far more likely to indicate voting support. Look at the numbers of donors (100,000+) and the average donation amount: $50.00. The people across the nation are supporting this guy, not the corporations. The media needs to stop all the hype on the "polls". They weren't too accurate during the 2004 election cycle's primaries, and they probably aren't now.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:13 pm |
  9. Brian Jones

    If the polls were updated to reflect the fact that a LOT of voters use cell phones and not landlines they would come out different.

    I dare you to put a poll up on your website and see who comees out the winner.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:14 pm |
  10. nick piccard

    Answer: Who says he won't be? In fact, I am absolutely positive he will have significantly higher poll numbers. The more they try to suppress the voice of liberty and patriotism, the louder we will shout. And we will be heard across the world.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:14 pm |
  11. Jeff

    Why? He is getting no real media coverage equivalent to his base. Scientific polls often don't reach students and others who may be first time voters – or those who have never voted Republican. He also doesn't get much "love" in the media, who continue to add backhanded comments in every report, ex. "He has no chance". If Romney, Obama, etc. had raised this amount of money, it would be front page news.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:14 pm |
  12. Oliver Reis

    Hello Mr. Cafferty,

    being a German citizen, I have the strong impression that
    the Media pretty much ignores Ron Paul and the successes
    he and the Grassroots achieve. His name is not out there on
    a level that other candidates WITHOUT any significant Grass-
    roots have.

    So let me thank you for your fair coverage about Ron Paul, it's
    a very delighting experience to see that some parts of the US-
    Media care about the People rather than the editing room Memos,
    thank you very much for that.

    Oliver Reis, Germany

    December 17, 2007 at 2:15 pm |
  13. John

    The mainstream media continually tries to discredit and marginalize the only candidate that truely represents THE PEOPLE. It is not in the interest of the current administration's agenda to support a candidate that would truely change the status quo. Ron Paul is one of the only candidates that would REALLY end the War in Iraq. Instead, the media continues to promote candidates like Giuliani and Clinton, who will continue the war and corruption, in the name of Corporate America.

    The reason Ron Paul is such a powerful force on the internet, is because the internet isn't controlled and censored, like Fox News, CNN, MSNBC and other mainstream media outlets are.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:16 pm |
  14. falseflagop

    Fact of the matter, Jack, he is polling way higher than the so-called (independent polls). Someone recently got a call to vote in a GOP poll, and guess what RON PAUL'S name was not even included (He was excluded from the poll question). I think I see a problem arising, don't you Jack?

    December 17, 2007 at 2:16 pm |
  15. Brian

    He set the single day record for primary campaign fundraising, besting the mark set by John Kerry AFTER he won the Democratic nomination and you are asking us why your polling methods don't register the support he has?

    You are the journalist, do some work and figure it out. You know like reporting.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:17 pm |
  16. Michael

    You must not mean straw polls or text polls, Ron Paul always places well in those polls. Nobody has called me to be part of a poll. Just who are they calling in these polls?

    The Answer:
    They call people who voted republican last election. They are polling those most likely to NOT vote for Paul. Like many Ron Paul supporters I have never voted for a candidate and never contributed to a campaign. The polls are flawed in many ways.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:17 pm |
  17. Chris Rhoades

    In many polls the requirements for selection is being a likely Republican voter with a landline. It is defined as someone who voted Republican (Bush) in the 2004 election. I am a Republican but voted 3rd party on principle last election and I only have a cell phone so I wouldn't get polled.

    Donors are also people who have been disaffected from politics, young first-time voters, Constitution Party, Libertarian, Independent, and yes disgruntled Democrats who realize that he would end the war.

    The big story on the fundraising is that is averages out to around $100 per donor. In other words, the numbers are corporate, lobbyist, bundlers but average American patriots.

    Time will tell if the polls are right. Looking forward to January!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:17 pm |
  18. Rick

    If Dr. Paul had one half of the free media coverage of the "usual suspects", he'd already be running away with this thing. By every other objective measure Ron Paul is king.

    Most Straw Poll wins – check
    Most candidate signs – check
    Most meetup groups/members – check
    Most online poll wins – check
    Most attendance at rally – check
    Most money – check that one today

    I have never been one of those conspiracy minded folks, but I may have to reevaluate that after this election cycle. The Republican machine should be trumpeting this huge news of beating Kerry (D)'s fundraising record – especially considering how broke the GOP is.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:17 pm |
  19. karpodiem

    Answer: Who says he won't have higher numbers? The media's prejudice against Ron Paul today is outrageous. The more you try to silence the liberty and patriotism we promote, the louder we will shout. All of America will hear us very soon, and we are beginning to outnumber you.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:17 pm |
  20. Matt Myers

    The answer to your question.....

    Why isn't Ron Paul higher in the polls?

    Because there is a concerted conspiracy by the special interests and powerful, wealthy people who think they alone can decide who will be the next president of the USA.

    60% of Americans don't trust the polls apparently.............and I'm certainly among that 60% who do not trust the mainstream media or the people conducting the polling to run a fair and honest election. They will do everything in their power to prevent Ron Paul getting the attention he so justly deserves.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:18 pm |
  21. Jeremy

    Ron Paul is not showing well in the polls because the polls are conducted by land-line telephone, and only with people who have voted republican in the past. The vast majority of Ron Paul supporters are younger independents who have never shown an interest in politics until now. Also most of the younger people who support him do not have land-line phone, as most people these days just have a cellular phone line. How can the mainstream media keep ignoring a candidate that can pull in $6 Million dollars in a single day without even organizing it with his own campaign? I hope you aren't the only journalist who digs deeper into this story, because sadly that is likely what will happen.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:18 pm |
  22. Thomas M.

    Because the polls don't include him in the polling. Show us one that does and he will win it guarantee. And we will all only vote once.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:18 pm |
  23. Jake Beischlag

    Hello Jack:

    You can almost feel the winds of change stirring for this upcoming election. I have never seen or heard of such a strong grassroots support for any Presidential candidate in history. Ron Paul will turn the political system in America upside down with his message of Freedom, Peace, and Prosperity. The reason Dr. Paul is not higher in the polls is simple: the media itself is damaging the democratic process, the mainstream media's bias is overwhelming and is becoming so blatant to many. America is waking up, the sleeping giant, the voting public, has been stirred – the final result will be the election of Ron Paul for President in 2008.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:18 pm |
  24. Jason Del Wraa

    These polls only take into account republicans who were registered in 2004, while completely overlooking disenfranchised republicans and democrats, independents, libertarians and those who've never voted before.

    Voter turnout in the primaries is typically around 10-15% of registered voters.
    I'm quite confident that the Ron Paul Revolution will set a record for turnout in the primaries, just as it has continued to set and beat fundraising records.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:18 pm |
  25. Troy

    Because the polls are no good. The polls are biased against. There is evidence of this. If you don't believe me, ask yourself why Huckabee has surged in the polls and hasn't raised anywhere remotely close to the money that Ron Paul has.Then ask yourself which is a better measure of support, random people answering a phone poll or cold hard cash.

    Cafferty for VP.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:19 pm |
  26. Michael

    It's quite simple Jack,
    Anyone with a brain knows the Mainstream media ignores him.
    A better question would be; How did Ron Paul receive 6 million dollars in cold hard cash in a single day, and over 18 million dollars so far this quarter from ordinary people, with so little mainstream media attention?

    December 17, 2007 at 2:19 pm |
  27. falseflagop

    If he is polling so low why are local pundits in New Hampshire asking is RON PAUL is a a bigtime realtor ? I guess all those signs acroos the whole state would make even me wonder.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:20 pm |
  28. Rafik Mikhael

    Polls are a scientific tool to reach an unscientific result.

    The deception begins when you assume (mistakenly) that the expectation of people to actually take the trouble and go on a winter day to vote for their favorite candidate is equal among all campaigns. With this assumption it make sense that surveying people's opionions would give an indicator as to the expected result of the actual vote. But the fact is, supporters are not equally enthusiast about their candidates. Many supporters poll for a candidate cause he is the one they see everyday on TV, not because they are truly enthusiast about his message. Come voting day, you probably wouldn't take the trouble to wake up and head for the booth unless you really really believe in someone's message, no matter how many times you see him on TV.

    You want a more scientific way to count the votes apriori? find a way to measure not only the size of the support, but the depth of it!!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:20 pm |
  29. Eric Gerhardt

    Jack I have 4 calls in the last 2 months from the telephone pollers, not one has included Ron Paul in their Poll. The polls just arent accurate! Not only that, one of the automated polls that called me told me to "press 6 for other." When i pressed 6 it told me "You will no longer recieve calls from this polling agency."

    The polls just arent Accurate!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:20 pm |
  30. Brett


    Why? How about the fact that our Mainstream Media trys its best to dictate the "best" choice of candidates for America by neglecting the others. Call me naive but I thought the media was supposed to protect their countrymen from this klnd of manipulation....... and if that doesnt do it for you then it at least shows how far we have strayed from the intentions of our founding fathers. *hint* Ron Paul is a strict Constitutionalist...

    December 17, 2007 at 2:20 pm |
  31. nick piccard

    One thing is for sure, it isn’t lack of support. Perhaps the better question is: Why don’t polls properly reflect real-life support.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:20 pm |
  32. Mike Kaniut

    Simply a matter of polling techniques. Polls ask "likely" voters who they will vote for. Ron Paul has a very strong following is the normally no-show voters. This includes college aged voters, and the 40-50 percent that historically haven't been voting as a result of becoming apathetic to politics. Ron Paul has energized these lost pieces of the democratic process, and will be reaping the benefits come the primaries. I believe he has a very legitimate chance at unseating several of the candidates and getting a respectable 2nd place or winning the nomination. But all is speculation until January.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  33. ALLEN

    Because the polls are rigged!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  34. Terry O'Flaherty

    I dont believe Ron Paul has surrounded himself with the right advisors that can get him the exposure he so desperately needs. If you ask 10 people who Ron Paul is maybe you will get one who knows. At this point you have to ask is the money he has raised being spent in the right places ?

    December 17, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  35. Dan Teesdale

    Jack, polls should mean very little to us. The key to the primaries is to vote for who you feel matches your beliefs the most. I believe it is very, very dangerous when we begin to rely and vote based on poll results. These poll results have been proven to be easily manipulated, and when we rely on them we are giving up our democracy. Despite this manipulation, I feel Ron Paul will have great turnouts in Iowa and New Hampshire. Then, Jack, we will see the rEVOLution!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  36. mariahussain

    Ron Paul is relying on a viral marketing campaign which takes time to become effective. Not everyone is tuned into google. Many people haven't heard of Ron Paul or have been influenced by the media smear campaign. The combination of media smears and media blackouts, and the way he was treated in the debates, give the impression that he is the unwanted guest and does not help him come across well to the audience. On the other hand, the passive participation of the poll-takers may not result in votes. Ron Paul advocates will definitely vote. It will be interesting to see how far Ron Paul can get without any help from America's thought police, the Israel Lobby and its media arms.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  37. Robert Nash

    Come on Jack... Do you really have to ask?

    Ron Paul is not polling higher for the same reason the NAU is "non-existent".

    BTW, Ron Paul Supporters really like you! Please keep up the good work!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  38. Kent

    That's easy. He's been censored. To this day, he's often simply not even listed as an option in polls. Which is understandable considering he's a true threat to the established political order in Washington.

    Think about it... he had over 58,000 people contribute hard earned money to him on just ONE day. Nobody's ever gotten that kind of numbers before. Does anyone really believe he gets all those people to send him money, and none of them is going to vote him?

    Be prepared to see stunning numbers in the Iowa and New Hampshire votes. Finally, Dr. Paul's true support will be witnessed in a way that no one can supress.
    BTW, Welcome to The Revolution.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  39. Eric Gerhardt

    Mr. Cafferty, I got engaged on December 16th to coincide with Dr. Pauls Tea Party Bomb and im wondering if it was a good idea now.

    The Boston Tea Party stood for freedom, and I just gave that right up!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:22 pm |
  40. Jesse

    He has done extremely well in many of the straw polls taken around the country. Where he has struggled so far is in the "traditional" polls, many times made up of registered Republicans who voted in a previous primary. I would not expect him to do well in that forum, because that is not his base.

    Up until this past weekend, the Paul campaign has not had the money to go on the offensive and attempt to reach the mainstream voter. They do now, however, so I anticipate a full out media blitz in IA and NH leading up to the primaries. Double digit results in those primaries is a great goal.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:22 pm |
  41. Mr. Walker

    Maybe if the polls showed more people who would actually vote in the primaries instead of 500 "random" people, he would actually be leading. Most supporters have never voted before or they switched parties to Republican.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:24 pm |
  42. Craig Royce

    What do you mean jack? he's won almost all the straw polls. If you're asking why he doesnt win telephone polls of likely republican voters the answer is quite simple. His message has created NEW likely republican voters and nobody is calling us. when they do call a paul supporter he's in the "other" category. Add that to the virtual media blackout and rise of cell only phone users and you have highly inaccurate telephone polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:25 pm |
  43. Bob Rooks

    No one's asked me. The polls I've read about either leave him out, lump him with "other," or produce the results that the pollster was paid to achieve. The "polls" seem designed not to ASK what we believe, but to TELL us what we should believe.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:25 pm |
  44. Marc Lysne

    Most of the mainstream media is attempting to ignore Ron Paul. We have these 'celebrity' candidates that people seem to identify with, until that is, they hear what Dr. Paul has to say, and what he believes in.

    Give it time and Mr. Paul will be very high in the polls. All the other candidates have too much baggage to even compete with the man.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:25 pm |
  45. Diana Nickel

    I believe part of it is because he will not carry forward the agenda of the North American Union and will actually work to return ownership of the country to the people. Since we aren't allowed to acknowledge the end of American sovereignty in the MSM, how on earth could we expect the MSM to give fair air time to a man that would not only talk about it but fight to reverse it? He is left out of polls and marginalized to an unbelieveably obvious degree by the MSM. It's almost as if each organization has received a script and marching orders. If Ron Paul got the attention that he has earned, (like the attention Huckabee gets that hasn't been earned)I'd bet you 6.2 million dollars he'd be sitting on top of the polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:26 pm |
  46. Jonathan

    The national polls target likely primary goers. However, likely primary goers are considered to be those who went to the primaries in the last election cycle. This excludes at least two-thirds of all Ron Paul supporters.

    If you want to see who is going to be at the primaries and how they will vote, look at the straw polls.

    Ron Paul supporters will drive from one side of their state to the other side of their state to vote for Ron Paul in a straw poll, and the results are obvious. Ron Paul has won, that's first place, over 50% of all straw polls nation wide.

    This fact alone dismisses the idea that Ron Paul supporters are only on the internet, and really it makes supporters of other candidates look lazy in comparison.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:26 pm |
  47. Johnathan Stromboli

    Dr. Paul has a very active support base, with many of his followers believing in the campaign 'An American Hope" to such an extent that they donate the maximum amount allowed for an individual. The least amount of supporters he can have is roughly 18 million divided by the max (being 2300) donation. We get roughly 7826.5, which makes sense, because his average follower is 1.5 the weight of an average American.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:28 pm |
  48. Erin Moore

    The people who are polled are "likely" republican primary voters. Many of his Quarter 4 donors have never voted in a primary election, and therefore will not be contacted for polling purposes. Also, many of us have only cell phones as 24% of Americans do now. These lines are not called for polling purposes. Hundrens of thousands have donated. We are passionate and we will vote. Call us.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:28 pm |
  49. Terry

    Depends on which poll you are talking about. Do you mean the so-called scientific polls where the GOP party refuses to even name Ron Paul as a choice of candidates on the poll? Do you mean the poll that doesn't name Ron Paul as a choice but his numbers and his supporter's are forced to either choose "other" or "undecided" for lack of other options? Or do you mean a poll that only polls Republicans that voted Republican in 2004 which is a very poor reflection of his support? As a person who is very familiar with who is supporting Ron Paul, the real numbers are reflected in a cross section of Americans who are changing parties just for him. Independants, Democrats, Libertarians, Republicans, people who have never even voted before, and everything else you can imagine. A poll of card carrying Republicans, rarely even given the choice of Ron Paul as an option, is a pathetic reflection of his support. The polls are not a reflection of someone's popularity, it's just another tool of the neocons to manipulate people to tell them who to vote for.

    Don't believe me? Feel free to request the recording one Ron Paul supporter made while being polled a few weeks back. No Ron Paul option and when the person choose "other", the recording said thanks and told them they would be removed from the calling list. In other words they aren't interested in polling people who choose Ron Paul. And there are many reports from Ron Paul supporter's of similar shenangians.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:28 pm |
  50. Joshua Workman

    These "polls" that show Dr. Paul as barely registering are among likely caucus go'ers, who voted in the Republican Primary last time and have land line telephones. Most pollsters neglect to even mention Dr. Paul as an option. They do not take into account cell phone users or first time Republican voters.

    Mr. Cafferty, I believe a better, more honest, question would be: How is a man who raised $6 million in one day, has his own blimp(payed for by grassroots), and thousands of UNPAID supports and volunteers that have "rain, sleet, or snow" dedication, still considered a long-shot, fringe candidate by the media?

    The bias that many of the media outlets have gone through to suppress Dr. Paul's success can be seen just by a simple YouTube search. Are we to believe that when the 4th Quarter Campaign Finance Reports come out the headlines will read "Romney finishes 2nd in fundraising" as opposed to "Ron Paul blows all other GOP Candidates out of the water with a $20 million 4th Quarter!"

    December 17, 2007 at 2:29 pm |
  51. Scott

    ron paul is common folk, the one person that washington didn't change. that just isn't news worthy, no profit in giveing equal time the canadates. besides he looks too much like jack cafferty, and one sex symbol is all cnn can handle at a time.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:30 pm |
  52. Greg Dunbar

    The answer is a simple one. The polls are polling only individuals that voted republican in the last election. That makes up a very small minority of real voters in this upcoming election, since after Bush, many jumped ship.

    Ron Paul draws a lot of his support not only from Republicans but also from Independants and Democrats who switched over from their parties and have never voted Republican before. Those voters are not included in the polls.

    Does Ron Paul have a chance though? Well, history often repeats itself. At this time in 2003, John Kerry was actually polling slightly LESS than what Ron Paul is polling now – but he still went on to win the nomination. That right there, is pretty much proof that the polls cannot be taken seriously this early into the game.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:30 pm |
  53. Justin Stout

    Hi Jack,
    First of all, Ron Paul's straw poll numbers and online poll numbers are higher than any other candidate. Secondly, the national polls are almost always proven wrong on primary election day. Ron Paul is receiving more support from college students than any other candidate, and they are not contacted for these polls. Ron Paul is also receiving more support from Independents, Libertarians, and Democrats than any other Republican candidate, but those individuals are also not contacted for the phone polls. Ron Paul is receiving more support from people who have never voted before, and those people are also not called for these phone surveys.
    Hopefully enough people will wake up and not let these "national polls" decide for them who should be our next president.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:30 pm |
  54. Jonathon Cohen


    #1 in majority of straw polls,
    #1 in debate polls,
    #1 in web traffic,

    The polls conducted by main stream media are of usually less than a 1000 people and are of voters who already voted in the last primary and Ron Paul's audience is mainly of new Republican voters. The polls conducted online have a majority win for Ron Paul. He has the most meet-up groups.

    Now that he has more money, and is willing to spend that money on advertising on major networks, it is surprising that the main stream media still does not recognize Ron Paul as a leading candidate.

    The main stream polls were not relative to the winnings of the Democratic primary in Iowa for John Kerry and John Edwards. I would think that the main stream media would have learned by now that these polls are not absolute. You need other data to really see that Ron Paul is going to win this primary.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:31 pm |
  55. Luis Gomez

    Simple. Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because he has never received a fair shake from the media.

    The vermin that call themselves "journalists" and "reporters" have been attempting to marginalize him from day one, always going out of their way to label him a fringe candidate, a nut, an extremist, a long-shot, etc... It has become blatantly obvious that the mainstream media has no interest in informing the public. Rather, their interest lies in skewing public opinion to favor those candidates they annoint as being 'viable.' A more interesting poll would be: How many Americans actually agree with any of the garbage spewing from the vile fountain of the media???

    Thanks Jack, and keep up the good work!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:31 pm |
  56. paulforronpaul

    Some of the reasons why Ron Paul doesn't do better in the polls is because they are doing landline polls of "likely primary voters." These numbers are taken from those who voted in the last republican primary. In the last Republican primary George Bush ran unopposed, resulting in a voter turnout of about 6%. Among that 6% voter turnout, every single one of them voted for George Bush, and these are the people being polled. Since Paul's views on virtually everything are diametrically opposed to Bush's, it's no surprise he doesn't do well in this demographic. But in 48 Republican straw polls where people must actually physically appear and pay money for the privilege of casting their vote, Ron Paul has placed first, second, or third in 41 across the nation. Excluded from land line polls are people who do not have land lines, disgruntled Democrats who have crossed over to Paul, college students who make up a large percentage of his support base but have never voted before, and folks who did not vote in the last primary because there was no choice, what with Bush running unopposed. Additionally, he was virtually every single poll following a debate be it online or via cell phone text message. Note that those who text message would not be included in the landline polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:32 pm |
  57. Ed

    The same reason why Ron Paul has won 50% of national straw polls and the National Presidential Caucus (http://www.nationalcaucus.com/results) for both Republican and Open voters. Or outside of each debate how Ron Paul supporters dwarf everyone else's. The Polling system is flawed when you have people like Frank Luntz asking questions and skewing the votes towards their pre-chosen candidate. The main stream media has already chosen it's candidates, they've already decided who you should vote for.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:32 pm |
  58. James

    There are many reasons. For one, to be able to vote on someone in a poll their name has to actually show up in the poll as an option. In many phone polls his name just isn't present.

    Another reason is the fact that the polling system is flawed in that it doesn't consider first time voters, voters that have changed parties, and voters that didn't participate in the Bush elections (and how can anyone blame them for that). This is where Ron Paul’s votes will come from and they aren’t even being asked.

    Finally, the polling system is showing its age by relying on land line based phones in a time where people have internet-based and cell phones.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:33 pm |
  59. Jon Searles

    It's simple Jack. Millions of supporters can go online whenever they want and make their voices heard by donating. On the other hand, I don't know a single fellow Ron Paul supporter who has ever had the opportunity to participate in these so called scientific polls.

    I think Pollster Frank Luntz explains why Ron Paul is not polling higher very clearly in these excerpts from an interview made famous by Penn and Teller.

    "The key in survey research is to ask questions that people care about the answers and to ask the question in a way that you get the right answer..."

    "...What you will find is that virtually the same question just a single change of wording you'll get a very different reaction in terms of how they think and how they feel."

    In short Jack, the polls tell us what the sponsor wants us to hear. It has always been that way and will always be that way. I can only hope that one day the news outlets who report these polls will grow a conscience and restore some credibility to the word "news".

    December 17, 2007 at 2:33 pm |
  60. Tim

    Like many others, the real question is why the polls fail to produce reliable numbers. It isn't just Dr Paul's numbers that are so off. How can the media's chosen candidates have such varied numbers in the same days if the polls are 'accurate'. Why is this the first election cycle in my 35 year memory that I can not remember the straw polls being important and covered? Instead, it is the polls that pick who they call, can't tilt question to elicit specific responses, and then produce the results they want. There are specific polls that have put the media darlings as options 1-5. Option 6 is supposed to be for Other and Option 7 is to remove yourself. Answering 6...Removes you from the list. They appear to have their results before they get started and create the questions to 'prove' it.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:34 pm |
  61. Timothy Helms

    Three reasons:

    1. Voters aren't concerned with educating themselves on the issues. They're content with gut reactions and scared off by big, misconstrued statements like "Ron Paul wants to abolish the Department of Education." I can't tell you how many times I've heard this translated back to me as "Ron Paul wants to remove public education."

    2. Big media caters to American laze. The point of these 'money-bombs' is to garner support, to get people interested. While you do report the total earnings, you further say "He can't win." It's time CNN, FOX, and the big three realized how much control their opinions have over the mindless masses. Please, stick to the facts.

    3. Polls only account for registered republicans. Ron Paul's appeal is much, much broader than this. He will outvote McCain, Thompson and Giuliani will place top 3 in Iowa. Hell, he may even win if the weather is bad.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:34 pm |
  62. Dave A.

    Perhaps the question should be: If Dr. Paul is so low in the "polls", how can he raise more than $6 million in one day?

    December 17, 2007 at 2:35 pm |
  63. Joseph Swenson

    Telephone polling is an antiquated technology that died with era of the cellphone. I think 2008 will prove this at the ballot box.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:36 pm |
  64. Christopher F. Dillard

    Whether its biased polling techniques that exclude his name, registers of republican voters from the last presidential primary where George Bush ran unopposed, or the marginalization of Ron Paul's campaign by the mainstream media, the real reasons for the low polling numbers become evident with some research. Check out the straw poll results at http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/ to see for yourself how widespread the support really is. The message of Freedom and Liberty is an inclusive one, and it's time to send the message, that "We, the People" want our Republic back. Quite frankly, there is no other candidate that I would trust at the helm to steer us back onto a Constitutional path.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:36 pm |
  65. Anthony

    Its very hard to move up in the polls if your name is not on the list. When I was polled Ron Paul was not even on the list to chose from. Here in Tennessee all I've seen is Ron Paul signs! "EVERYWHERE" The people are getting their news from the internet now! You are losing your control!!! Oh just thought you should know I'm 48 not 17!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:37 pm |
  66. Monika Holbein

    The reason why Ron Paul's support is not displayed accurately in the Polls is that he has a lot of young supporters and also supporters that have not voted in recent years due to frustration with the current system.
    It is also very difficult for a candidate to gain mainstream momentum if the mainstream media does not report on him. There is no way that the people of the US can make an informed decision if the media does not present them with all of their options equally.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:37 pm |
  67. Jeff Scott

    I know this will never make the air but it's because I speak the truth and I can't say anything other than the truth. There have been straw polls cancelled because of the amount of people who show up to support Ron Paul in cities (shame on the GOP). There are many polls that don't even list Ron Paul. There are many polls that are taken as gospel, but were taken of around 500 people who are 'likely voters'. We're told that straw polls don't matter anymore. We're told that money raised doesn't matter anymore. We're told that momentum doesn't matter anymore. We're even told that the size of a campaign doesn't matter anymore. What are we left with? We're left to depend on polls hich are generated by bias media and pollsters with an agenda. The fact is Ron Paul stands against the power structure which both parties thrive and neither the media or the political system are giving him a fair shake.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:37 pm |
  68. Jason

    It's kind of hard to get higher in the polls when you are not included in the poll! The mainstream media is backfiring, they keep ignoring Ron Paul and more Americans are realizing it. It's just firing up more people to push for change. Who gets more money from the military? Who wins most of the straw polls? Who has more public support? Who has a blimp? I'll let you take a guess...


    December 17, 2007 at 2:38 pm |
  69. Mark Weatherley

    1.) The "mainstream" media practically ignores him. The reasons for this are plenty but pretty much boil down to the fact Ron Paul will upset the Status Quo.

    2.) The lack of name recognition due to the media blackout

    And to top it all off..

    3.) Most of the polls don't even mention him as a choice.

    A true travesty for freedom loving America. The media has alot to answer for!

    M. Weatherley
    Concerned (conservative) citizen.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:38 pm |
  70. Derek

    I believe it could be because the media has already chosen the frontrunners. Although they have some legitimate support I feel we sometimes don't fully support democracy in this country. Ron Paul has had some coverage but he clearly deserves more. Also if you check you will see that Ron Paul gained a significant amount of the money from NH residents which shows he might have some new numbers during the New Hampshire Primary.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:39 pm |
  71. Henry


    He needs to be in all the polls to show up higher in the polls, far too often his name is not even mentioned as a choice, but rather as "other". That coupled with the fact that in these day's the media chooses our leaders.

    Thank you,
    Jacksonville, FL

    December 17, 2007 at 2:39 pm |
  72. Jess Fields

    Ron Paul is the wildcard in this race for a good reason. He is the only Republican candidate bringing new voters into the party. His appeal among America's youth and the third-party voters simply cannot be tested in conventional polls. The only sure test of his support will come on January 3rd. Then, we'll see if Dr. Paul's Revolution is for real or not. I'm certainly along for the ride.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:39 pm |
  73. Steve Duff

    Several reasons. Some polls don't mention Ron Paul's name, and if the respondent (such as happened to a local Paul supporter I know) chooses "Other", they are told they are being removed from the call list. Also, pollsters are calling voting participants of prior Republican primaries. Much of Paul's support comes from first time voters, disenfranchised voters who haven't cast a vote in years, and people changing their voter registration from Democrat. So the Paul supporters are not being called. There are many other reasons which demonstrate the un-scientific nature of polls. You can rig a poll to show a Ham Sandwich in the lead if you ask the right questions. Thanks Jack for your unbiased reporting of Dr. Paul's campaign. Keep up the good work!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:40 pm |
  74. Daniel Frazier

    It's simple, Jack. Most Ron Paul supporters are getting involved politically for the first time and and weren't previously registered with any party. Notice how the polls usually say something along the lines of "In a poll of likely Republican voters..."? The answer to your question is that Ron Paul's supporters aren't being asked to participate in the offline polls. Online is a different story, as I'm sure you've noticed.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:40 pm |
  75. john

    Two reasons he's not higher in the polls; first many Ron Paul supporters do not get called. They don’t have traditional telephones, when they communicate it’s on cell phones or through internet social networks. Second, when supporters do get called Ron Paul’s non-traditional message may cause false negative responses very much like the false positive responses motivated by a political correctness decorum when voters are queried about the gender, race or religion of a candidate.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:40 pm |
  76. Cyrus Etemadi

    Because a huge majority of the American citizens get their information from a Media that ignores Ron Paul's rEVOLution to this day, thus they are unaware of the movement. So I hope you, Mr. Jack Cafferty, have an answer to this question: If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million via an "uncontrolled" news resource such as the Internet, how come your corporation never treats him and his supporters with the respect that they deserve? We funded a Ron Paul Blimp so that he gets recognition because we have lost faith in the Media.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:40 pm |
  77. Suhayb

    I think you realize that the polls severely underestimate the support Paul has. Ron Paul has raised as much, if not more, than the "frontrunners" have in the past fundraising quarters. It should also be noted that these millions come from thousands of small donations. If the media continues to ignore the Paul campaign and put it aside in the quirky and odd news section, so be it. I wonder what they will be saying when Ron Paul is suddenly the Republican nominee. The media needs to wake up, and I'm glad that you are leading the way Jack.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:41 pm |
  78. Kevin

    Jack, Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because respondents to voter polls are more mainstreamed and consistent Republican voters. Paul, with his message of freedom and liberty, has attracted a wide array of Americans who in the past have been disenfranchised by politics. This honest and humble man haa given people something to chear about: a better future. Now, it has turned into a movement, a Revolution. And Just because it hasn't reached these "scientific polls" doesn't mean it won't reach the voting booths.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:42 pm |
  79. Sophie Laurence

    It depends on what poll you're referring to, Jack. If you're referring to polls which involve random calls to past primary voters who have landline phones and time to answer a structured phone survey which only until recently included Ron Paul among the options, then yes, Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls. If you're referring to straw polls and post-debate polls, then you're mistaken. He's won more straw polls around the country than any other candidate and has finished in the top three in the vast majority of them. He's won text polls, radio polls, web polls - you name it. Only when the polls have been conducted in an open and fair manner has Ron Paul garnered higher percentages.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:43 pm |
  80. Christopher Deal

    Well Jack it can be sumed up in one phrase "Human Error"

    Now let me elaborate, Polling companies have stated that when polling they are calling republicans that voted in the last primary. That was four years ago and alot of people have since turned 18 who they are not polling. Second they only call landlines which being in the automotive sales industry I know not alot of people have/answer landlines especially with the invention of caller id. These polls also do not include independats or 3rd parties or democrats like myself that registered republican just for the good Dr Money Bags.

    The worst reason which really pains me to know is the fact that Ron Paul isn't even a choice. If you go on youtube and do a search for republican phone polling you will find a video with audio of a poller calling and the only choices you have are the Media elected(ie Mitt Romney, "Tax Hike" Mike Huckaby, Rudy "9/11" Ghouliani, and John McCain/Thompson) And then you get the option of OTHER

    I didn't know John Other was running?!?

    Sadly our process for choosing a president has been reduced to a popularuty contest similar to that at a Home Coming Prom to choose the Homecoming King/Queen.

    Aside from the fact that the Mainstream media promises that Dr Paul is a kook, fringe, longshot, no chance, waste of vote, 3rd party and any other disparraging titles that they want to give him.

    I'm deeply discouraged in the American Way. We now disregard policy and position and in place judge a candidate based on some of the "characters" that may support his policies and positions.

    What has America Become?? That should be the question of the hour.

    Thank you for considering my comments
    A concerned Patriot
    Christopher Deal

    PS- Jack I have to thank you personally as I feel you have been one of the most fair and unbiased journalists to discuss Dr. Paul on your program

    December 17, 2007 at 2:43 pm |
  81. Nicholas W.

    "The polls don't mean anything at this point. In November and December of 2003, Kerry was polling around the same percentage as Al Sharpton.

    Check if you don't believe me..."

    December 17, 2007 at 2:43 pm |
  82. Brian

    Congressman Paul clearly has serious support from those who know of him. The problem is he doesnt get the same coverage other candidates do. Perhaps the media is to blame for Dr. Pauls relatively low numbers. The supporters of Pauls campaign are doing 90% of the legwork without much help from the mainstream media. One can only wonder if that will now change...

    December 17, 2007 at 2:45 pm |
  83. Jason Beasley

    It is a shame when the opinions of less than one thousand neo-conservatives are allowed to deceive the freedom loving people of this once great nation. It is even more shameful that we accept these polls without question. It is this small minority, and only this minority that will be shocked come primaries. Watch his words spread hope like fire.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:46 pm |
  84. Wesley

    Dear Mr. Cafferty,

    The only polls that show Ron Paul unfavorably are those flawed and outdated ones. The internet has risen to become the new standard by which political support are defined in this generation and Ron Paul leads on all online polls. It is just another plain and simple case that politics has not yet caught up with technology.

    Concord, NH

    December 17, 2007 at 2:48 pm |
  85. Eric

    Many of Ron Paul's supporters are under the age of 40 and only have cell phones, while polls are based on landline phones. Also, about 40% of his supporters are Independents or Democrats, so they aren't included in the "likely Republican voter" category. Also, the turnout rate for his passionate supporters is sure to be much higher than other "typical" Republicans, meaning Ron Paul may have a real shot at winning some primaries.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:48 pm |
  86. Mark Olsen

    Which polls are you talking about Jack? The ones bought and paid for by the military industial complex and reported by the very media outlets they own??Or the ones on the internet that are owned by no-one,Ron Paul continually wins hands down over and over again.
    The days of the media picking our president for us are numbered.
    What a joke it has been.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:48 pm |
  87. Mark Hipshire

    Respectfully sir, I cannot explain it, and I don't need to have to try to either. Having been a lifelong advocate of liberty, the best I can say is that _finally_, more people are awakening to the fundamental understandings that Ron Paul is so eloquently illustrating to us. We may not win this particular "battle" Sir; but the battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. More of us than ever before are now vigilant, active, and brave, and that is something that no amount of money will ever be able to stop. Beware would-be oppressors, the revolution is at hand; the revolution will not be televised.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:48 pm |
  88. Sandra

    Jack, If Ron Paul won the presidency, it would pose a threat to every pork barrel project the federal government has created in the form of know nothing government agencies and their do nothing services. Pollsters are hand in hand with the pork, hired to promote the need for thier existence to masses. Do you think for a minute that they are going to promote Ron Paul at the expense of their masters?

    Yep, Jack, YEE HAA!! It's time for a pork barrel BBQ compliments of Ron Paul – Texas style!

    P.S. Pollsters will need extra garlic salt.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:49 pm |
  89. Scott Johnsson

    A peculiar disconnect indeed. Perhaps 10 second soundbytes promoted by quick and easy political coverage fail to cover the depth and breadth of Ron Paul's deeply rooted principles. Perhaps those on the internet, indulged in healthy discourse and near unlimited information have unearthed the long forgotten cornerstone of this great republic. Perhaps, Jack, the truth may just really set you free.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:50 pm |
  90. Andrew Krzynowek

    The polls being considered do not account for the vast amount of Paul's supporters. Many of them have never voted for a candidate, many of them have switched parties to vote for Ron Paul.

    Take a look at his straw poll wins at http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

    These are the polls that people actually have to get out of their house for, this is a somewhat better representation of where his support lies.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:50 pm |
  91. Dan


    Besides Lou Dobbs and you, I don't have a lot of faith in the mainstream media these days; I was at the Ron Paul Boston Tea Party yesterday in the winter storm. Oh I drove up from Pennsylvanian, anyway, the energy and passion I saw yesterday for a Constitutional candidate was absolutely amazing.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:50 pm |
  92. Cleaner44

    Let’s examine the anomaly of the national polls. The only area that Ron Paul scores low in are the national polls. This begs the question, how are these polls being conducted?

    Telephone calls are placed to Republican voters, at home, on landlines. The voters being called are previous Republican voters from the last election cycle. These calls do not engage the voters who have registered as Republican in 2007 because of Ron Paul. These calls are to traditional Republican voters, which are only one part of the party that will be voting in the primaries.

    Let's look closer at the group of traditional Republican voters that receive polling calls. Only those that are home regularly and answer such calls will be able to give their opinions. The views of regular Republican voters who are active outside the home, whether at work, at volunteer activities or children’s events when called by pollsters, will not be included. The poll will also not include disaffected registered republicans who have not voted in recent elections.

    Ron Paul has been creating many new Republican voters that were previously Independents, Libertarians and Democrats. These new Republicans are an undefined factor as of yet, but there are many indications that they are in fact quite a large group. Many of these undefined voters are also young and do not have home landlines.

    The bottom line is that the national polls are very limited in the sample of opinion that they gather. They simply are not a valid indication of the wide variety of voters that will be making their voices heard loud and clear at the Republican Presidential primaries.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:50 pm |
  93. Pedro

    Those polls are nothing more than a tool to control the voters.

    Ron Paul's name is left out of a lot of those polls. Why doesn't the media talk about the straw polls that Ron Paul has dominated?

    National polls mean nothing. No other candidate has the support that Ron Paul has and no other Republican candidate has raised the money that Ron Paul has this quarter. If you ask me, Ron Paul is the only front runner.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:50 pm |
  94. pat

    the people are smarter then they are portrayed. call it last minute or call it an upset the party will reel over for decades. the people nominate the candidate not cohorts.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:51 pm |
  95. Ron

    Clearly Ron Paul is among the frontrunners in this Republican race. He leads in money, on the internet, in straw polls, and in debate victories. His showing in the polls clearly does not reflect his support, and it seems the better question to ask is 'why don't the polls accurately portray Ron Paul's support?'

    December 17, 2007 at 2:52 pm |
  96. Daniel


    It's pretty obvious to most of us who support Ron Paul that the traditional polls have lost a lot of credibility. Perhaps part of the reason he doesn't make a better showing in the polls is because half of the time he's not even included in the poll itself, only an option to choose "other". Also, a large percentage of Ron Paul's support comes from people who have not voted in recent years due to frustration with traditional politics. These people aren't considered "likely Republican primary voters" by the pollsters, and therefore, aren't polled.

    The political system is in for a big shock. Ron Paul is waking TONS of people up. Will you be a part of it?

    Franklin, TN

    December 17, 2007 at 2:52 pm |
  97. Erik John, Varvir

    Ron Paul has repeatedly stated that his name is not being included in the scientific phone polls and that he is winning almost every State GOP straw poll so you do the math?

    December 17, 2007 at 2:53 pm |
  98. Paul

    Simple. People have gotten so used to being spoon feed news through sound bites via the main stream media filters. We simply except what we're feed without asking the deeper questions but not all of us! That is why you see such high Ron Paul funding and low poll numbers. A few see the real picture and are passionate. Soon many will see it!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:53 pm |
  99. Taylor Buchanan

    Jack it seems blatantly obvious that the methodology of "modern" polling needs a re-vamp. From every indication all people see are Ron Paul signs, Ron Paul supporters at rallies and Ron Paul moneybombs. How on earth could he possibly be so low in the polls you ask? Maybe a better question is how are these polls being conducted. Try to get 1200 people at a rally on a Sunday for Hillary or Rudy. Good luck. And Huckabee seems to be a media creation. Kudos for asking the question!

    December 17, 2007 at 2:53 pm |
  100. Greg Gillette

    The powers to be do not like Ron Pauls message of freedom and liberty and his message that our foreign policy and the military industrial complex are completely had of control and ruining our country. The truth is a hard thing to swallow for a lot of folks, especially those making money from untruths.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:53 pm |
  101. Doug Carkuff

    No comments? Somehow I don't believe that. Well, the reason why Dr. Paul's real support (as indicated by his amazing ability to raise money – beating all records for a single day's fund raising) and his polling is very obvious. The polls are biased – often times leaving Dr. Paul out as a choice altogether and designed specifically to reflect the agenda of the people who commissioned the polls and the pollsters themselves – and that agenda, by and large, is to marginalize and sabotage Dr. Paul's campaign. Look, we all know this and we all know the media itself has made it its mission to marginalize Ron Paul, so what is the point of pretending about it. The big political news on MSNBC this morning was Lieberman's endorsement of McCain – nevermind that Ron Paul just raised more money in 24 hours than any political candidate has ever raised in the history of the world. You might think that might be interesting and important news, but apparently not and apparently, no matter how much real support Ron Paul has, the media has decided he is "marginal" and treat him that way no matter what – thereby marginalizing not merely Dr. Paul, but his views on liberty and the Constitution and all the many millions all over the world who see in Dr. Paul the first real hope for a better future for us all. The shamelessness and deceit of the media apparently knows no bounds.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:55 pm |
  102. Ralph

    The polls are obviously biased, skewed or incorrect. The sheer number of donates should mean something and to suggest that anyone who donated or contributes to the campaign won't vote in the primaries is just fullish. Also, let us not forget John Kerry who before the Iowa caucus was polling at 3%, but went on to win the Democrat nomination.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:55 pm |
  103. sig

    How can Ron Paul raise 6 million dollars and receive so little coverage compared to the rest of the candidates the media is obviously pushing. Dr.Paul has the most youtube subscribers, More meetup groups then all the other candidates combined, has won the most strawpolls, most myspace fans,won all the after debate polls but one where he came in second, the most blimps,the most chat rooms,the most internet radio stations,the most UNder-reported candidate. Investigate how the "Polls" are conducted and who they are polling and you will have your answer....you're supposed to be investigative journalists...do your jobs.
    Jack, Paul supporters love you.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:55 pm |
  104. Albert

    The Internet is a gold mine which magnifies the impact of small, widely dispersed minorities. If you can sell little razors to trim nose hairs for ten times what they're really worth on the Internet, surely you can sell Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:55 pm |
  105. Christopher

    Ron Paul in not higher in the polls because people do not fully understand his message. I know I did not understand how he could make all of the things he talks about work until I heard him speak fully about them. Ron Paul has a plan and though you might not agree with all of what he says, it is in the country and the media's best interest to at least listen to what he says because he speaks more truth than any candidate I have ever heard in my lifetime. Truth is medicine and while medicine never tastes good, sometimes you have to take it to get better, right now Dr. Paul has the medicine this country needs.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:56 pm |
  106. Matthew Niemerg

    This is a simple matter of understanding how the polls work. First off, these polls are only going after 'likely' primary voters, or those who have voted in past primaries for the GOP. If you look at the voter turnout in '04, for the primaries, it was around 6%. These are the people that are being called. In addition, the polls are all done via landlines. The pollsters, through no fault of their own, are ignoring the demographic that Paul's message has hit with: the youth, the 70% of Americans who want to end the war, independents, and many people who have previously been apathetic to politics. They aren't being asked the questions, so they aren't being included in the polls. Hence the low poll numbers. It's not a conspiracy or anything, just bad data acquisition. There are lies, there are damn lies, and then there are statistics.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:56 pm |
  107. Steven

    Your network uses flawed polling methodology. They only contact previous Republican voters, most of which Ron Paul supporters are not. Also, only landline phones are used, and because Ron Paul has a larger youth following, and statistically the 18-30 age group mostly only uses a cell phone and not a landline, they are never contacted.

    It's alright though, we know your polls are meaningless, and they don't discourage us one bit.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:56 pm |
  108. theproducer1776


    How many times do we have to scream at the main stream media the answers to this question?! There are a few very simple answers to why he is not polling higher. Let me list them off so you can read them on air and finally get the truth out.
    First those polls are likely voters from the last primaries that were historically low in attendance and very pro Bush, and pro war. Second, most Ron Paul supporters do not own land lines and use Cell phones only, so they aren't polled. And third, the most important of all. They don't even list his name on a lot of the polls! This country is in a Revolution Jack, our Money Bombs will go down in history as the next "Shots heard round the world."

    Austin Petersen

    December 17, 2007 at 2:56 pm |
  109. Frank Dupone

    Most of the polls are simply about name recognition. Being in the business world myself, I've always paid attention to the "Money" at the end of the day – as that is the biggest indication of real support, not media hype. Ron Paul's biggest hurdle is name recognition, but with this new Fundraising Record & the Blimp – the people are about to hear. What is most suprising is that this $18+ Million hasn't come from corporations, but from individuals wanting to change the course of politics.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:57 pm |
  110. Ann

    Dr. Ron Paul has been and in some cases still is "NOT IN THE POLLS, NOT AN OPTION". He obviously places high in the "who will you give your money and support to" catagory".

    December 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |
  111. Mark Neumann

    85% of Ron Paul supporters are outside the mainstream polling demographic of Republicans who voted in the last primary. Romney and Giuliani will get very few primary votes from outside this demographic.



    December 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |
  112. Lawrence

    1. The polls are inaccurate. 2. The media feeds us a steady stream of mistruths and propaganda. 3. Americans who have heard the message do select him. He has won a majority of all GOP straw polls. 4. The media has convinced many people that he cannot win and therefore apathy prevents many people from voting for him. 5. The media has been grossly unfair to this man and the bias shows quite clearly. 6. Many Americans are stupid and have been fooled by the leading candidates, recall that 74 million Americans voted for George Bush's second term. 7. People who are educated by TV and many of our public schools are not going to develop the ability to think critically.

    For more information on Why I Support Ron Paul., see the link below.


    Best, Larry Lepard

    December 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |
  113. Sandor Bors

    Easy answer Jack. It is time to change the mainstream polls! They obviously do not coincide with what informed Americans think and they think enough of Ron Paul to donate money, donate their time, and donate their energy to support an idea whose time has come.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |
  114. Scott Swingle

    I believe the better question here is "Why are the polls not more accurately reflecting Ron Paul's support?"
    As more and more people drop their land lines in favor of cell phones, polling will be increasingly more inaccurate. The people of my generation (I am 26) use cell phones almost exclusively.
    There are also reports of Dr. Paul being left off of the polls are not registering properly when he is included in the poll.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |
  115. Travis Steward

    It's simple Jack: the polls are wrong.

    December 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |
  116. Rain Anderson

    Because the polls you're referring to attempt to query folks who have voted Republican, and Ron Paul’s base draws heavily from those who have shied away from the party or were not previously politically active. I think you should take a look at straw polls and post-debate polls. But of course it doesn't help that big media largely ignores him.

    I'm a man from a country most Americans probably never heard of and I'm rooting for Ron Paul. And when he wins, hell, I might just move to the US. But for now, it's painful to watch how the American big media attempts to control your presidential elections. What Ron Paul's supporters did yesterday was history, pure and simple. They broke all records and most of the media barely even mentions it. If Rudy or Hillary were to raise even half of what Ron Paul's supporters raised yesterday, it would be big news across your country for days. But not in the case of Ron Paul. No, we can't have that now can we..

    December 17, 2007 at 2:59 pm |
  117. NickB

    1) Who voted in the last primary? Think about the voters who voted for Bush in the last primary. These are the only people considered "likely voters" in most polls. Even if you supported Bush, like I did in 2000, the war kept many of us home. We had no enthusiasm for Bush. Today we have anger and distrust for the man, and we have found in Paul an honest sincere champion of the Constitution. He gives us a third choice... we don't have to leave because of a false fear of Islamo-fascism or because we are losing, the third choice is that we didn't follow the founding father's advice–and we're strong enough as a people to admit our mistake and come home!
    2) I'm 46, a millionaire, and I have no land line phone. I've moved 4 times since 2000. The combination of cell phone homes and people moving (remember before the bust we had a real estate bubble) and changing their numbers makes the "likely voter" samples much less reliable.
    3) It has been documented by recordings of actual polls that Ron Paul has actually been left off many polls! See digg.com for examples.
    Thanks for being a voice who's open to the message of Liberty and Ron Paul, Jack!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:00 pm |
  118. Jeff-Rhode Island

    There are many reasons. The polls don't reach most of the people who support Ron Paul. I am registered as "Unaffiliated", my wife has never voted before, and many in my MeetUp group were registered Democrats before becoming Ron Paul supporters. As always, Ron Paul speaks the truth when he says "Freedom IS Popular!"

    December 17, 2007 at 3:00 pm |
  119. Chad Byrd

    Ron Paul's poll numbers are low because the polls don't accurately measure his support. If the media use flawed poll numbers as the only metric for potential success on election day and ignore donation statistics of individuals, they're forming their own foregone conclusion through reporting of those polls numbers. Just examine the disparity between Paul & McCain's levels of media coverage to see that there are double- & triple-standards at play in the media when considering polls and donations. We haven't heard a peep about Paul winning nearly half of the straw polls he's been in, which account for people motivated to vote. That's all fine, though - Paul's low poll numbers give the competition false security. We'll be out at 90% strength.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:00 pm |
  120. Ross Johnson

    I think it’s fairly clear that our current polling system is simply out of date. Current pollsters seem to ignore the inevitable; Americans have become indoctrinated into an internet society. Internet savvy Americans are not only young college students, or 30 year old spammers living out of their Parent’s basement. But rather individuals of all ages and political affiliations have begun to rely on the internet for their daily news. However, a majority of the “reliable polling” is still performed over landlines. In an era of expanding technology a majority the American public have abandoned their landlines in favor of more practical means of technology, such as cell phones. Conversely, internet polling is labeled as unsubstantial and unreliable. Money talks in politics and Dr. Paul’s fundraising capabilities show that he is not only a viable candidate, but a top contender for the Republican nomination. Yet, sadly the main-stream media would rather focus on the meaningless endorsements of Sen. John McCain, than even acknowledge the clear will of the American people.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:00 pm |
  121. George


    Well he should be higher in polls if the polls are legitimate. 50 OR 60 percent of republicans are not sure who they are voting for. Also the media has a lot to do with why he's not higher in polls. He raised that money from hard working american people not big corupt corperations that will do anything to get there pupits elected so they can pass any laws they want to make the slaves that we are right now.

    Also because the media wants to talk about other candidates and will not mention how our country is adding $1.8 billion dollars a day on top of the $9.2 TRILLION dollars ( AND THAT'S TRILLON WITH A T ) that we owe. They are more concerened about what dirt they can find on the canidates then to figure out how this country can get out of the mess we are in.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:01 pm |
  122. Richard Shank

    Perhaps the better question is, with all the excitement about Ron Paul and the record-breaking fund raising, why are the other candidate so high in the polls?

    December 17, 2007 at 3:02 pm |
  123. Ashley Jordan

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because of the fact that the people that are polled are Republicans who voted for Bush in the last election. If Democrats, Independants, and Republicans were polled then he would be a lot higher. I am in a Ron Paul meetup group that has 600+ members and atleast half didn't vote in the last election or are Democrat/Independant. Think about this though-all 600+ members of the group will vote for Ron Paul and will also campaign for him for FREE. His meetup groups equal 80,000+ people and that's 80,000+ people working to tell others about Ron Paul and the message of freedom. Thanks!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:02 pm |
  124. Sam Johnson


    The reason why Ron Paul is not higher in the national polls is because they poll people who have land line telephones; these are the same people who are more likely to subscribe to the old media for their news: television networks, printed papers, etc. Ron Paul's message of a principled conservatism: that of personal, financial, and national freedom and security has drawn support from unmeasurable segments of the population, including Democrats and previously apathetic citizens.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:03 pm |
  125. Brandon Yates

    Ron Paul is not higher in polls because he is not a media appointed candidate. He is hardly mentioned in the media, and when he is, he is often painted as a fringe candidate who has no chance. Of course, your program, Jack, is one of the few exceptions.


    December 17, 2007 at 3:04 pm |
  126. Harvey Russell

    Two reasons. The MSM has basically determined Ron Paul can not win, and the Big Government Nanny Staters are deathly afraid of him.

    A Ron Paul comes along possibly once in a lifetime. I've been blessed to have seen two; Barry Goldwater in '64 and Ron Paul this year.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:04 pm |
  127. Ogiar

    Because the media has ignored him, laughed at him, and said "He can't win!". The good news is that frustration with media coverage for Paul directly transfers into money for his campaign and an intense viral grassroots effort. So it doesn't really matter what the media does one way or another. Paul's message is the same one this country was founded on and people are hungry for it. As the economy falters they will grow hungrier. The British couldn't stop it and corporate media is not going to stop it either.

    Thanks Jack., you da man!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:05 pm |
  128. Matt Black

    I have no idea who the media is polling. Common people I meet from restaurants to churches love Ron Paul. The massive crowds that follow him are hard to miss, but for every crowd, there are ten times that number who do not have the time to go to an event. I've never contributed to a campain before, but I gladly sent some money Dr. Paul's way yesterday. No one I know has even been contacted for a poll. And if they were, just about all of them would vote Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:06 pm |
  129. Hank Beasley

    QUESTION ASKED: If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he’s not higher in the polls?

    Simply because the Media is not giving Ron Paul fair coverage. They try to suppress his message of liberty. But I tell you what we the people are getting a bit tired of politics as usual. Ron Paul is who I am voting for 100%. Please add this to the next poll that I will not get a call about.

    Sincerely, Hank
    Athens, Ga

    December 17, 2007 at 3:06 pm |
  130. Eric Yingling

    Mr. Cafferty,

    As an active duty member of the United States Marine Corps, and a veteran of the war in Iraq, I can only say that Ron Paul has a lot of support from those of us in uniform. Out of everyone I have talked to, none of us have ever been contacted by any polling agencies for our opinions. Most of us are previously unregistered voters, and I think Dr. Paul has tapped into a large source of similarly-positioned individuals, which will not reflect on a traditional poll. I would like to point out how Dr. Paul has more actual "boots on the ground" truly motivated supporters at almost every event, when compared to the supporters of other campaigns. Dr. Paul's supporters don't have to be coaxed, bribed, or bussed in by the official campaign, either.

    Thank you for the opportunity to voice a response,


    December 17, 2007 at 3:06 pm |
  131. Curtis Ehler

    A better question would be, "If the pre-primary polls are so bad at predicting candidates in competitive primary races (such as in 2004 when John Kerry emerged from the second-tier to become the choice among Democrats), why are we paying attention to them at all?"

    –Curtis Ehler

    December 17, 2007 at 3:09 pm |
  132. Matt Black - Elgin, Illinois

    I have no idea who the media is polling. Common people I meet from restaurants to churches love Ron Paul. The massive crowds that follow him are hard to miss, but for every crowd, there are ten times that number who do not have the time to go to an event. I’ve never contributed to a campain before, but I gladly sent some money Dr. Paul’s way yesterday. No one I know has even been contacted for a poll. And if they were, just about all of them would vote Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:09 pm |
  133. Angie

    Jack, The polls? Im waiting on the voting booths!!. Ron Paul has more support than any other presidential candidate of my near 40 years! The media has far underestimated the power this man has or they are too afraid to admit it. Which is it ? The people have controll of this one Jack! The cats out of the bag! Goodbye neoCon world. Hello Freedom!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:10 pm |
  134. Phil (Austin Texas)

    Besides the steroid using Romney, who bulked up his campaign to the tune of $17 million of his own money, the others will be cash anemic come mid January and drop out.

    Ron Paul will be the next to take over that front position, just in time for the primaries. The others treat this race like a sprint, the Ron Paul campaign is running it like a marathon. Watch those front runners become too winded to finish the race.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:10 pm |
  135. Jay

    Most of the main stream media tries to ignore or downplay him. When he does get questions in a debate, they are always designed to make him seem like a less serious candidate. If the media would give him fair coverage and allow Americans everywhere to hear his message, he would be doing MUCH better in the polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:11 pm |
  136. Dennis

    Ron Paul raises so much money from so many individual Americans - beating competitors who raise primarily from corporations and unions - because the excitement of human freedom beats the cynicism of self-interested lobbyists.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:12 pm |
  137. John Stevens

    Because of the lack of media exposure. The "Old Media" still controls much of the information that Americans receive and for some reason information about Dr. Paul is not disseminated in the same manner or in the same volume as it is in the case of the other candidates. I thank you Jack for at least asking the question and I hope that perhaps someone on your end might answer this question: If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million via an “uncontrolled” news resource such as the Internet, how come most of the corporate "controlled" news resources don't treat him and his supporters with the respect that they deserve?

    December 17, 2007 at 3:12 pm |
  138. Richard

    The reason Ron Paul is not higher in the polls, even after being able to raise more than $6 million in one day (for over $18 million this quarter alone), is actually several fold:

    1. When moderating debates, the media does not typically give equal time to all participants in the debate (the exception to this was PBS's Republican Debate many months ago), or will interject loaded questions or bias (in the form of laughter or ridiculing demeanor) into the process. When this unfair practice happens, the audience and general public does not get an equal or fair representation of the lesser-known candidates. The result is that Ron Paul gets less subsequent media exposure.

    2. The polls themselves are rarely fair. It is my understanding that when asking participants for their choice, Ron Paul's name is often left out of the list of possible choices (unless he is listed under the "Other" category). How is he supposed to do well if his name isn't specifically listed? I think a fair poll would list each of the major candidates (and by major I mean all of the candidates that have participated in the majority of the televised debates so far). And in doing so, should randomize the order in which the candidates are listed so that any bias from order would be removed.

    3. Also, the polls generally only ask a small set of previously registered republicans who have participated in the previous primary for their opinions. Ron Paul's message of freedom, prosperity and peace is a very popular and far reaching message, even prompting many Democrats and Independents to pledge to vote for him (I have personally talked to several). Also, the polls generally exclude younger adults who have never voted or other adults who have been apathetic to the whole process, until now. Dr. Ron Paul has done an excellent job of reconnecting with these people through an understanding of what the real concerns are for the common person and has found substantial support among a varied group of people, not all of them registered Republicans who are likely to be asked for their preferred candidate via phone polls.

    The shear fact that Dr. Ron Paul can raise over $6 million dollars in one day (and beat his $12 million goal for the quarter, for which he is now over $18 million) is a truly remarkable feat and should show just how much support these traditional polls are missing by their current polling practices. Additionally, of the many straw polls taken all over the country, Dr. Paul has placed very well is most of them (see http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/ ) and has taken first place in many of them. sometimes in landslide victories. I feel that Dr. Paul, by continuing to increase his fund raising each quarter (actually doubling it each time until this quarter where he may quadruple the previous), is now a top tier candidate (and actually has been for some time). What other candidate has raised so much money in one day? If the amount of money raised and grassroots support (both of which Dr. Ron Paul has much) are not valid indicators or a top tier candidacy, what is?

    It's time for the media to give Ron Paul the exposure and coverage that he deserves as a front runner.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:12 pm |
  139. Ben Schmidt

    The better question is, if he is ranking so low, why is he able to pull $6 million in one day? Now compare the media coverage of this record-setting day to any of the other candidates, and how nearly every news story has to include 'longshot' or 'has no chance' and you'll get your answer. The American people see a good man being shut out, and they're fighting for him.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:12 pm |
  140. Harris Durrani


    I think you should be in a better position to answer that question than us. Think about it if Hillary Clinton says something about Obama's drug usage that news spreads like wildfire on the Mainstream media and has been on air for almost a week everyday. Ron Paul literally has to break World Records to get a 30 second news coverage in any of the major corporate news stations.

    Ron Paul and Barrack Obama are the only two candidates who when talk to a nation don't talk as if they are talking to a specific group of people like the other Republicans do. I feel Ron Paul is talking to me, talking to you , talking to everyone thats why there are far more Democrats who are now turning Republicans to vote for Ron Paul. Thats why there are far more Independents now voting for Ron Paul, far more Libertarians, Liberals, Conservatives.

    All these Candidates talk about finding a common ground to communicate yet Ron Paul is The only candidate who has found common ground where alot of people from every party come together and agree with whats happening.

    Jack you want to know what proper conservatism is? Ron Paul has raised almost 19 million dollars this Quarter and he is not in DEBT. Thats Fiscal Conservatism, thats how you make money and raise funds. Not borrow money from lobbyists and other big corporations for your Campaign like Rudy, Clinton, Romney, McCain etc. They are all hypocrites and i am sure you know that.

    Thank You

    December 17, 2007 at 3:13 pm |
  141. Neil A. In New Hampshire

    I live in New Hampshire, and have a land line. I've been called now for four separate polls. Including the Time poll back a week or two ago.

    THREE of FOUR polls did not include Ron Paul!

    The fourth poll that had Ron Paul buried him beneath several extra button presses (it was an automated poll).

    His exclusion doesn't make sense when you consider that Hunter and Trancredo make it onto more polls than Paul.

    That's how it is here in NH.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:13 pm |
  142. jeff


    Many polls only poll voters that voted in the last primary election, or likely primary voters. In the case of the last republican primary, Bush ran unopposed, so only the hardcore Bush supporters turned out, mostly the religious right. This may also explain Huckabee's overnight surge in these same polls, even though he has raised very little money.

    Many of Ron Paul's supporter are new to politics, never voted before, or were too young to vote during the last election cycle. In addition, many of these supporters are more high tech, using cellular phones only vs. landlines, and VOIP for long distance. This typically excludes them from traditional telephone polling. Conversely, Ron Paul wins every internet polls and text message poll. Originally, these wins were dismissed as spam or high tech spam bots. Well Jack, spam bots do not raise $ 26 million YTD with an average donation of $75.00. Those numbers represent real people.

    Mark Twain said, " I hate to make predictions, especially on the future". However, I predict that with the level of support of hundreds of thousands of very motivated supporters, there will be some very surprised faces once the votes are counted.
    Ron Paul's supporters will stand outside in a blizzard to get heir vote counted.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:14 pm |
  143. Brett Floren

    Ron Paul is ahead in the polls – at least the important ones where people use their credit cards to cast their ballots.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:14 pm |
  144. Chris

    There are many reasons, but one that stands out are the methods that are used to survey the population. How do they poll individuals? Is it random, if so, based on what sample population? Do they use past republican voters? Do they use past election cycle voters? Do they use registered republicans, democrats or independents? Just who are these people that are being polled? Well, one thing is for certain, they are not reaching Ron Paul supporters. A large percentage of Ron Paul supporters have never voted, have recently changed parties, or have become so disgusted with the same old same old, that they simply do not vote. So basically the reason that Ron Paul's numbers are so low in the Polls is because his supporters are not being polled. I think everyone is in for a very big suprise starting in January. I'm sure it is going to have alot of people scratching their heads, wondering why they have not heard more about this fine Dr. named Ron Paul.
    Second and not too much lesser reason is the fact that the Media is not giving Dr. Paul the deserved amount of attention and the little he does get is usually portrayed negatively.
    Absolutely astonishing and extremely sad.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:14 pm |
  145. Jeff in Virginia

    Ron Paul is not showing strongly in the polls as much of the coverage on him comes with a very negative bias. More often then not, a sound blurb on Ron Paul goes something like this. "Ron Paul raised more money then anyone else in history, too bad he has no chance as a fringe candidate"

    The so called "front runner" candidates are propped up by national polls that do not include Ron Paul, and a constant stream of media attention.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:14 pm |
  146. Josh Fair

    Recent figures continue to show that about 70% of America is against the Iraq War, and about 40% of Republicans are against the Iraq War........Dr. Paul is the ONLY candidate in the GOP that matches up with this issue. Either the nation has changed it's view on the Iraq/Iran War(s) or the poll numbers are off.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:16 pm |
  147. Casey W

    ITS TRUE JACK! Us Paulites really like the way you approach news.
    but yeah it is sad. hes not often included in the actual polls, rare media attention, and constant comments that he cant win. i say boo. i thought the news was to inform you of the best candidate but it seems like they just want us to be complacent and satisfied with the terrible choices that the news is offering right now.
    rudy sucks
    mitt sucks
    thompson doesnt suck as much
    kucinich is cool
    gravel is cool.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:16 pm |
  148. Johnathan

    He is high in many polls,in example, straw polls and online polls. Just not traditional land line phone surveys. No one I know (even my grandparents) has a land line.

    The question is, why is he ignored by the media when he has the most outstanding, principled and unwavering voting records of anyone else running? It's like the American people are supposed to like a candidate just because they we're a governor somewhere, happened to be the mayor of a city that was attacked, or because I've seen him before on Law and Order. It's a petty popularity contest without substance.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:16 pm |
  149. Will

    Simple. Those polls are wrong.

    Look at state straw polls, Ron Paul has one most of them (25). Ron Paul's support comes from all walks of life and polling companies call registered republicans from the 2004 election. The numbers only capture a fraction of his real support.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:17 pm |
  150. Debra Amorino - Long Branch, NJ

    What is impressive is the fact that Ron Paul and his official campaign actually did NOT raise over 6 million dollars yesterday....the grassroots movement did! We donated yesterday to a 'cause', not an individual. Ron Paul is merely a 'face' to this revolution and his loyal followers are living proof this country is in serious need of a powerful 3rd party to offset the 'same old, same old' politics we've been force-fed through the main stream media.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:17 pm |
  151. Kirk

    Jack, What polls are you talking about? With the corporate media circus pushing there own agenda, how in the world would you think that a candidate like Ron Paul is going to get the recognition that he deserves?
    Rupert Murdoch Quote:
    "For better or for worse, our company (The News Corporation Ltd.) is a reflection of my thinking, my character, my values."
    Theres no fairness in the media of today. Oh, other then you Jack. That's until the CEO of your company thinks your not inline with "the boards views" and they pull your plug.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:18 pm |
  152. Jim FreedomWon

    Great question. I've been following the primary debates more closely than any of the past 9 presidential elections that I've participated in. Usually voted for the Candidate and not the Party. This year it is clear to me that the entire News Media Industry is exerting enormous control over the election process and has for the past 4 elections. Given that any reasonably intelligent voter has complete access to every Candidates political/personal history, and we are faced with the fact that Ron Paul has accomplished as much if not more that any other Candidate, there are only two answers to why he is not higher in the polls.

    1) The polling proccess and procedures are faulty because they only are connecting with Republican voters that voted in 2004 and have landlines.
    Or ...
    2) Main Stream Media is not journalism but propaganda and they are acutely aware that there is a vast sleeping army of intelligent Americans who have begun to organize and those that run the media in this country are terrified.

    My experience with Ron Paul supporters is that every time that the press states that: "Ron Paul cannot win the election" they go out and get ten more voters.

    For this may God have mercy on Dr. Ron Paul.

    Oh by the way, I recently registered as a Republican for the Primaries.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:18 pm |
  153. Frank McSorley

    If any other candidate had raised over 6 Million in a single day it would have been the top story on all networks. Mainstream media has been downplaying all of Paul's accomplishments since day one. He scares the big corporations that own the news channels.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:18 pm |
  154. Jena

    Hi Jack,

    Thanks for offering fair reporting on Ron Paul.

    Ron Paul is not doing better in the polls because the mainstream media ignores him, laughs at him or labels him as "long shot", "dark horse" or "fringe candidate". Many Americans are simply too stupid to do their own research on the candidates and they go to the polls like sheep and vote for who the media tells them they should.

    Also – Ron Paul is not even listed in many of the polls or he is listed as "other". How fair is that? How can one be expected to get any poll percentages if they are not even listed as a choice.


    December 17, 2007 at 3:18 pm |
  155. Greg from PA

    Ron Paul could be the best qualified person to get the U.S. out of the mess that the past thirty some years of inept and corporate bought leadership has gotten us into. Unfortuantely, too many obstacles block his nomination. Firstly, he's a Republican who's ideas fall outside the neo-conservative mindset of the born-again Christian, right-wing base. Secondly, while he has strong support from the well-educated internet set, he lacks corporate and special interest backing the provide big buck and vocal supporters. Thirdly, while he may appeal to independant voters, only New Hampshire includes Independants in their primary so many who would vote for him are disenfranchised. Lastly, he has the charisma of sandpaper, lacking the folksy rejoinders of Hackabee and the smooth glibness of Romney and his speach writers and debate coaches should be fired.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:19 pm |
  156. Dennis Nielsen

    Are you referring to the polls that target "likely Republican voters"?
    There's a tide change going on that the pollsters seem to be missing: until a month ago I was a registered Democrat. I changed to the Republican party so I can vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. I will not get targeted by pollsters looking for "likely Republican voters"; because I didn't vote for Bush last election.
    Hey pollsters: The question is, how many more like me are out there? I think there are a LOT!
    Go ahead pollsters; give me a call. I'm waiting. Until then, I'll keep responding to those on-line polls that Dr. Paul seems to be raking in the numbers on.

    And , yes, I gave my nickel's worth to Paul's campaign on December 16th -
    I have never made a political contribution to another candidate before in my life.
    I am 52 years old.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:19 pm |
  157. Tara B

    Landline phones are becoming obsolete. They are no longer representative of the population as a whole. It is more accurate to gauge support by looking at fundraising, straw polls, and the like. I am confident that his will be shown to be true during the elections. The world is changing, and its about time that the media caught up!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:20 pm |
  158. Jeff Cran

    Simple answer to a simple question...

    Ron Paul isn't higher in the main stream media polls because the powers that be, the powerful and rich people that own these organizations, don't want him to be.

    We have nearly lost total control of this whole process.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:21 pm |
  159. Dan

    Because often times Paul is not listed on the Pollsters questionnaire. Doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that is going to affect the results.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:21 pm |
  160. Dave

    Take a look at who is being polled, and the questions being asked. You'll find your answer.

    Many polls call "likely Republican voters". Who is likely to vote? People who voted in the last Republican primary in which Bush ran largely unopposed. With no real choices, the people who did vote in those primaries were Bush supporters. Given that polling population, it's a wonder Ron Paul gets any numbers at all.

    Ironically, it is the effort to get the most accurate polling data that is actually distorting the polling itself.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:21 pm |
  161. Simon Jester

    Jack - please play this audio file on the air, which shows that Ron Paul is not even on many of the "official" polls. It's a recorded automated telephone primary poll:


    December 17, 2007 at 3:21 pm |
  162. john

    Why isn’t Ron Paul higher in the polls ? I would say because the polls are certainly in favor of other candidates and in other polls he is left out altogether . It would seem that the people may believe in the idea of freedom that this country was built upon, but the power structure that runs it do not . And as Carl Rove said we decide what reality is . This is another good example of them trying. But with the polling numbers voted with $ we seen at Ron Paul’s website this weekend , they can say what they will but the Ron Paul message and his movement is reality.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:22 pm |
  163. Charlie

    Plain and simple, the changes that Ron Paul and his supporters want to see in this country do not serve the best interests of the media, and because of that, we often see him being portrayed as a longshot candidate with little support and crazy ideas. Of course he's going to suffer in polls when he is being treated unfairly and has his stances on the issues left unexplained or manipulated to make him come off like a kook. Breaking fundraising records isn't something that someone with little support and crazy ideas can accomplish.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:23 pm |
  164. Dr. Daniel Keane

    There are polls, damned polls and then there are scientific polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:24 pm |
  165. JohnW

    Mr. Cafferty, I would like to see that question directed at those who pay for and conduct the polls.

    The people have spoken for Dr. Paul with their pocketbooks. The number of donators should be as impressive, if not more so, as the $6 million dollar figure. We don't all have a lot of money, so a lot of Ron Paul supporters had to donate to in order to reach that figure.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:24 pm |
  166. Tammy :)

    Because too many people in office or places of control are afraid of his message. If more media would just report on the facts and not involve their personal opinions or the personal opinions of the owners of the media, he would have just as much name recognition as the rest of the people running. Thank you for having a forum for this question. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!! Go Ron Paul!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:26 pm |
  167. Virginia - Boca Raton, FL


    Your question about Ron Paul raises another question. At this time, there have been 139 comments to your Ron Paul question, yet only 7 comments on the McCain question and only 13 on the CIA Tapes question.

    Why do you think it is that 87% of the total comments to these three questions are being made by people who are interested in and taking the time to respond to the Ron Paul question.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:26 pm |
  168. Welid

    That's because he tends to follow the ideals of the Founding Fathers. It seems the media just don't like a modern day Thomas Jefferson and, as a result, ignore him.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:27 pm |
  169. Patricia

    1. Liberman gave John McCain an endorsement & the media thinks that's more important.
    2. Ron Paul wants to end the war in Iraq & Afghanistan & the NEO-CONS don't want that to happen, so they will do anything to scuttle his candidacy.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:27 pm |
  170. Susan in Michigan

    I am a registered voter, not a first time voter by any stretch of the imagination, and while my Republican Congressman seems to have no trouble locating my land line phone number, I haven't been called to participate in any poll which included Dr. Ron Paul as a choice.

    I think perhaps the pollsters need to actually consistently present Ron Paul as a choice before we can expect to see any statistical improvement.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:28 pm |
  171. Rick

    What has happened is that there is some form of at least semi-organized popular movement that "liberty minded" people are involved in – the Ron Paul rEVOLution! Organization has its effects. It means that you discover that you're not alone. Others have the same thoughts that you do. You can reinforce your thoughts and learn more about what you think and believe. The Ron Paul rEVOLution is a very informal movement, not like a membership organization, just a mood that involves internet interaction among people. It has a very noticeable effect. That's the danger of spreading the “message of liberty”: If an organization can develop, if people are no longer just glued to the tube, you may have all these funny thoughts arising in their heads, like sickly inhibitions against the use of military force. That has to be overcome, we are seeing that process unfold in the "old media", but the “old media” is dying, dying hard but dying. The Ron Paul rEVOLution is effectively bypassing the media who is “at death’s door” and with it the will of the “military industrial complex”. It’s a fight – servant against master. Do you think the master is worried about hand feeding the rabble fictitious “poll numbers”?

    December 17, 2007 at 3:28 pm |
  172. Ted Minnard

    He's behind because MSM likes to concentrate on the leaders. Further, he receives very little opportunity to speak in the debates. There is no doubt in my mind of media bias throughout any given broadcast day. Mr Paul also has a little difficulty in speaking, as a result, he sometimes comes across as a crackpot, which he surely is NOT. When you listen to Ron Paul, you have to read between the lines, because his use of words has a tendency to cover a lot of territroy. It appears however that Ron Paul has pretty much the same approach to government as our founding fathers did. The two main political machines are projecting that old time principals, practices, integrity and foundations of America are passe'. Ron Paul depicts an America we should have that we have strayed from. No one seems to understand that .

    December 17, 2007 at 3:28 pm |
  173. Bryan Andersen - South Bend, IN

    The polls do not reflect reality, that is the only logical and obvious answer.

    You cannot raise that much money from ordinary Americans in such a short span of time if you only have the support that the polls show you having. It is impossible.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:29 pm |
  174. James Schroeder

    I've noticed over the years, Jack, that presidential primary polls taken in the couple of months before the first primary have very little to do with the actual vote. So, a better question might be: Why do news organizations relentlessly report on these polls as if they actually mean something? It would serve the voting public better to do more in-depth coverage of the candidates' views on the role of federal government, understanding of economics, foreign policy approaches, etc. Polls are easy. Serious reporting on Dr. Paul's Austrian economics approach vs. Giuliani's Keynesian approach is more difficult, but maybe if the American people were treated to intelligent political coverage, we wouldn't elect so many stupid politicians.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:29 pm |
  175. Ferris

    The powers that be would rather have any democrat elected as opposed to Paul!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:30 pm |
  176. Cary Abrell

    It's important to remember that Ron Paul did not raise any of that 6 million dollars. It was done at a grassroots level by a diverse collection of people. And Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls because the people polled are those who have voted Republican in prior elections and the number of people polled doesn't even represent a tenth of a percent of the nation's voting age population. And to think that everyone watching TV is suckered into believing these polls have any worth! Pathetic.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:30 pm |
  177. Robert Cranford

    I left my office for lunch today and what did I see hovering above my building? A giant blimp with Ron Paul's name plastered to the side of it, easily read from hundreds of yards below. The joy that this brought me was indescribable. Its that feeling that gets me excited about Ron Paul.
    Here is why I don't think he shows up in polls: Less than half of Americans vote in National elections, and I would bet that AT LEAST half of that 50% are intelligent, moral, yet politically apathetic Americans, who realize that no matter who they vote for, the end result is sadly always the same: disappointment. I see a large portion of Ron Paul supporters are a lot like me, an independent, who has never taken a candidate, party or campaign seriously since becoming eligible to vote. Since we are independent or recently unregistered to vote, we are not included in polling. Ron Paul speaks for us and gives hope to those who see him addressing the real problems and issues with honesty and integrity. Not all Americans need to be spoon-fed and babysat their entire lives by a dysfunctional parental government. We need to learn to take care of and educate ourselves, or else our nation will perish.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:32 pm |
  178. Brewskie

    I have a family member who received a telephone poll where Paul was NOT included. It seems fair to say that not all polls are being held fairly and without bias. I would not be surprised to learn that most polls put out several variations for one reason or other and inadvertently skew results from accurately exposing his support.

    When Paul has shown he is in first place, or the top three, in virtually every metric of support, from straw polls (which he is in first place with the most wins of all Republican candidates) to fundraising and rally size, yet only the polls produced by the media show him with little support, something tells me that the polls are not accurate and are not reflecting the true scale his support.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:33 pm |
  179. Robert Benson

    Ron Paul is polling low for a number of factors such as lack of inclusion and unscientific polling methods. Polls are the equivalent of the "spin-room" after a debate. Full of useless, unprovable information to appease the wind bags that need something to talk about in order to remain employed due to their lack of any discernible skill.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:33 pm |
  180. Gary

    Hillary promises to give everybody everything they will ever need. Rudy tells everybody who is scared that he will kill the evil Islamofascists and protect us all. This is what the governing classes have tricked people into believing. Ron Paul just tells the truth. It will take time before people will be able to hear it again. It has been so long, most people wouldn't recognize the truth if it came down their chimney.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:34 pm |
  181. Bill

    Jack I think it is because he doesn't fit the mold of either party. I think if the was to run as a third party candidate you would see just what a threat he would be to both parties. He is a candidate that doesn't leave you guessing on where he stands on the issues. He doesn't flip flop on the issues and he has a record in Congress to prove that. To have those qualities in a candidate today is unheard of. There are some things I disagree with him about, but I clearly know what he is all about and you got to respect that. – Bill, Quarryville, Pennsylvania

    December 17, 2007 at 3:34 pm |
  182. Shelley

    Dear Jack,

    One of the reasons that Dr. Ron Paul isn't polling higher in the polls is because our senior republicans haven't done their homework. I am a baby boomer and researched Dr. Paul's views on the Internet. I feel that most senior citizens are not computer savvy enough to get this information from the web and have to rely on the MSM to educated them on Dr. Paul's positions. Let's face it our senior citizens may not own a computer but they have a land line!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:35 pm |
  183. David

    Why do we have 700 bases in 130 countries but we can't pacify a bunch of ragtag radical Muslims? It's the same reason Ron Paul's poll numbers don't match his support. The method is wrong and a new approach is needed.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:36 pm |
  184. Jared Austin

    The "scientific" polls that the media tend to rely on so much are simply not accurate, and that fact is unfortunately ignored or suppressed by most. There are many flaws in the way the polls are conducted that are obvioius to anyone who is willing to do a little research. The result is that the voter "sample" is extremely narrow, and does not represent accurately the intentions of those who will be voting next year. The $18 million that Ron Paul has raised in the last 2 1/2 months is real, and it came from real people like me who will vote for him when the time comes. Maybe a better question to ask is why the so-called front runners who are "leading in the polls" are unable to raise more money?

    December 17, 2007 at 3:36 pm |
  185. gilliganscorner


    The reason for that is Old Media (CNBC, Fox News, CNN and the other massive conglomerates) are actively suppressing his campaign and message. Additionally, pollsters are jerry-rigging their questions to exclude asking people about Ron Paul:

    Here is an example of the typical phone polls conducted

    Ron Paul online polls have been consistently being pulled from Old Media sites, because they didn't like the results. Your own Allan Wastler admitted it here. In addition, John Howard wrote a supporting letter for his colleague here

    Or when Ron Paul won the Nevada Straw Poll, MSNBC headlined their report: "Romney loses NV Straw Poll" – that is like announcing "Kerry loses Presidential Election".

    ABC's John Stossel (on 20/20) does an interview with Ron Paul, but instead of airing it to television, it is confined to the Web. Yet we get to see Barbara Walters do a stomach turning interview with Rudy Guiliani. Why?

    As a result of mainstream media ensuring that the populace remains ignorant , Ron Paul supporters must turn to the Internet to communicate, share ideas, and rally support for their candidate. The Internet is not controlled – yet.

    Yesterday, Ron Paul Raises 6 million dollars (and mainstream is so quick to point out "online") and what do we see on the Front Page of CNN's politic site (as of right now)? "McCain picks up key endorsement from Lieberman". Even by CNN's standards, a candidate raising 6 million dollars is a heck of alot more interesting than that. Yes, you do mention Ron Paul's success as a side story, but isn't it funny how Ron Paul is always delegated as a side story by the mainstream media?


    December 17, 2007 at 3:36 pm |
  186. jack dacosta

    Its pretty simple Jack 4.2 million one day, 6.2million plus next fund raiser 18mil.plus so far in 4th quarter, put one of the C.F.R canidates (basically everyone else running for president) would equal high poll #s that simple..............

    December 17, 2007 at 3:36 pm |
  187. Tony

    How will he rise in the poll, when no one knows who he is, and no major news network spending more than 5 minutes covering him?

    December 17, 2007 at 3:37 pm |
  188. Shelley

    Dear Jack,

    One of the reasons that Dr. Ron Paul isn't polling higher in the polls is because our senior republicans haven't done their homework. I am a baby boomer and researched Dr. Paul's views on the Internet. I feel that most senior citizens are not computer savvy enough to get this information from the web and have to rely on the MSM to educated them on Dr. Paul's positions. Let's face it our senior citizens may not own a computer but they have a land line!

    Albuquerque, NM

    December 17, 2007 at 3:37 pm |
  189. Tom Gregory

    The polling numbers may appear to be low. These are based on active republicans from the past elections. Yet his gatherings have crowds sometimes in excess of 5,000 people, from all walks of life. He wins the majority of straw polls taken.

    I believe Ron Paul will suprise a few GOPs with his showings in some of these upcoming primaries.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:37 pm |
  190. Nathan Key

    I think there's three primary reasons that Paul's numbers haven't gone up:

    The first is that these polls target "likely republican voters." Since a big chunk of Paul's support is from independent and disenfranchised voters, they won't be called, even though there's a large number who are switching parties and about to vote for the first time.

    The second is that Ron Paul's name isn't widely discussed by the media and he isn't invited on major networks as often as other candidates. And when he is mentioned, it's always with the tag-line that he'll never win. It's really hard to overcome that sort of negative airtime and I think he's polling pretty well considering.

    The third is that there are a number of telephone polls that require you to pick an "other candidate" in order to choose Ron Paul. The average respondent won't work that hard in order to answer a telephone call that's already intruding into their dinner time.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:39 pm |
  191. John

    A valid question.

    Given poll's historical inaccuracies, It seems to me that poll "results" should be questioned more. Perhaps the question should be: " How much integrity is their in polling?"

    It's no secret that good polsters can formulate questions to swing trends towards a desired end. Isn't it then fair to expect the results to be similarly skewed?

    Most Polsters aren't philanthropists. They do it to earn thier clients continued business and for MONEY. Their clients MAY BE unbiased philanthropists, but many are not . I would suggest those that aren't , expect a return on their investment. Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one..

    December 17, 2007 at 3:40 pm |
  192. Dan H

    Just look at the e mails Jack do you think Hillary or any of the other candidates would get this response? America wake up and vote for a candidate you like ,not one that you dislike the least. Ron Paul is the first candidate I ever gave money to and I am 64. All of the other candidates took my money after they got in.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:40 pm |
  193. Erin Moore, Elizabethtown KY

    The people who are polled are “likely” republican primary voters. Many of his Quarter 4 donors have never voted in a primary election, and therefore will not be contacted for polling purposes. Also, many of us have only cell phones as 24% of Americans do now. These lines are not called for polling purposes. Hundrens of thousands have donated. We are passionate and we will vote. Call us.

    Erin Moore
    Elizabethtownn, KY

    December 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm |
  194. Donna

    The same reason your not high in the polls Jack.... Your names' not in them.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm |
  195. B Reyes

    The polls are completely flawed. First, they only include registered Republican voters that voted in the last primary– Which is only 6% of the entire party. Second, they don't poll democratic, libertarian and independent voters that Dr Paul's bringing in for the primary– many are switching parties just for him. Third, he has sizable support from younger voters, who don't have land line phones but cell phones, which are not called for polling. Lastly, the pollers usually don't even include Dr Paul as a choice. He has much bigger numbers than what are being reported.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm |
  196. Grant

    Because the days of the few controlling what 300 million people think are over.

    The traditional media and the pollsters are the dinosaurs of the Information Age, and the irony is they don't even know it. The are becoming irrelevant as quickly as the land line telephones they use to divine what the country is thinking.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm |
  197. Garcia

    What do you mean? Ron Paul is higher in the polls. He has won most post-debate web and text polls, and has dominated the straw polls. Which polls are you referring to? Are you talking about those "national" polls that sometimes don't even include Ron Paul's name? The ones who don't take into account young people and people who never voted before, thus eliminating most of the Ron Paul votes? I think it's safe to say that we can multiple Ron Paul's numbers by at least, 2, based on the things that I mentioned.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:42 pm |
  198. Alan Ngai

    Jack, it simple, . The sampling size is just too small, 1000 people and we are suppose to expect that to represent the views of all american, that is just worst kind of statistics.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:43 pm |
  199. Joel in Houston

    Instead of waiting at home for pollsters to call us we make our voices heard with cash! Can a poll measure passion? If you think your favorite candidate is likely to win, will you necessarily bother going out to vote? What about if you know your favorite candidate NEEDS your vote for him to have any chance of winning? Ron Paul supporters will show up at election booths, whether they are polled or not.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:43 pm |
  200. Ra

    I don't know Jack?
    Why is Ron Paul only given 20 seconds mention today, on most stations,
    despite having just scored the biggest fundraising coup in history,
    without lifting a finger?

    December 17, 2007 at 3:44 pm |
  201. Jim

    Ron Paul isn't in the polls because the people doing the polling are only asking people who have been registered republican and who had voted in previous primaries. Most Ron Paul supporters are young and hadn't voted in a republican primary before. All online polls and text messaging polls show you that he has a huge following. Maybe you should ask why the telephone polls differ so much from the online polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:45 pm |
  202. Pat

    That's easy, Jack – the polls are wrong, because the usual polling method is to call only former Republican primary votes, who have land line phones, and then leave Ron Paul's name off the list, or just ask about "other" candidates in addition to the so-called "top tier".

    December 17, 2007 at 3:46 pm |
  203. Tony Phan

    What's the fascination with land-line polls anyway?

    Do we need the opinions of a select group of people to drive our our decision-making process for someone who's going to lead the country for 4-8 years?

    Are "polls" simply scapegoats to justify the amount of coverage each person gets - or it is the amount and quality of coverage creating the poll results (chicken/egg dilemma)?

    December 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm |
  204. Alan Waller

    Ron Paul wins the polls in which the people must actively cast votes. That is, the polls which require an informed and motivated public. However, he ranks low in polls which rely on cold calls. Many of these cold-call polls require that the participant be 1. home between 9am & 5pm, and 2. have a land-line telephone. Unfortunately, these requirements leave many young, employed, tech-savvy voters out of the process. Also, much the same as it's become standard to imply that Ron Paul's support is trivial by saying that he has a "strong internet following," a more accurate way to describe Rudy Guilliani's support is to say that he has a "strong, unemployed/retired, land-line telephone following." For some reason, though, the media aren't as belittling to Guilliani as they are to Paul. But come on, media! Rudy "Did-I-Mention-I-Was-Mayor-During-9/11" Guilliani can take it. You know why? He was mayor during 9/11. I heard that somewhere.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm |
  205. Michael

    Ron Paul is not high in the polls because the polls only ask from a selected group of people. It's like asking people at a dog show, "What is your favorite breed?" Do you really think anybody will answer "Tabby cat"? To best tell the actual support for a candidate, look at what the real world results are telling you.

    Here is what Ron Paul has accomplished:
    * Won over 50% of straw polls conducted all across the nation
    * Won almost every poll taken of viewers of the televised debates
    * Raised more money in a day than any candidate in history
    * Raised more money from military donors than any other candidate
    * Has more unpaid volunteers promoting him than any other candidate

    The people are saying that Ron Paul will be our next president. The real question should be, "Why isn't the media telling the unbiased truth?"

    December 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm |
  206. Brian Sanford

    The bottom line is this, the major networks and their Presidents don't like Dr. Paul. This is not a conspiracy, it is the sad truth. It is up to the major networks what we Americans see. Our only hope is if Americans get off the TV and onto the internet and do the research themselves.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm |
  207. John-Ross Cromer

    Ron Paul can raise 6 MM precisely because he is not higher in the polls. Ron Paul's organized support base, upset with poor mainstream media coverage and general exclusion from traditional polling methods, realize cash is the only way to get his message heard before the primaries. They support these creative, action-demanding promotion methods because they genuinely care about what he has to say.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm |
  208. Anthony

    What you don't think the polls are manipulated? Just look at the amount of people who left comments her. Looks like that that tell the real story. Media controlls the polls, some Paul supporters that were phone polled say that either Paul was not an option, or once they chose Paul, the questions became so ridiculous the you would hang up for being insulted. I know that you know this.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm |
  209. Jeff

    Setting aside the idea of deception, there are two possibilities:

    1) Congressman Paul has a small, but very passionate, following;

    2) The polls are not accurately reflecting the true support for Paul.

    Arguing about which one is correct is largely unimportant as the primaries in the coming weeks will ultimately provide the answer. However, the question IS important if news media is deciding on the best way to allocate time and resources to covering candidates.

    The difference between fundraising and polling is one of the most interesting political science questions arising from this campaign season, in that there are two candidates with sharp discrepancies within their own statistics (Paul and Huckabee). I would argue that fundraising numbers are straight forward and open, as required by law. On the other hand, while polling is scientifically sound in theory, in practice it becomes subjective as subtleties in polling methods can largely influence the outcome, and results can easily be distorted to conclusions beyond the scope of the poll. If polling methods and results are not made as transparent and open as fundraising statistics, it is difficult to defend polling as the most honest approach to determining the airtime a candidate deserves.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:48 pm |
  210. Ruby Justice

    Who said Dr. Pau's numbers are low?? Ha!

    Dr. Paul is only low in the "Old Media" polls because the Old Media (OM) take most of their own polls and report on the results in their own pre-fabricated way.

    Dr. Paul has won EVERY online poll, and EVERY post-debate online poll, and every international poll and every military poll; but the OM is still in denial and out-of-touch with the free people of America.

    Ruby Justice
    Arlington, VA

    December 17, 2007 at 3:50 pm |
  211. William Lucas Jones

    Even if he were not running as a Republican, I would not vote for Ron Paul.

    He's a flake.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:50 pm |
  212. Rose

    Dr. Paul attracts people from every point in the spectrum. The Ron Paul supporter is nondescript. This also encompasses the younger, once apathetic bunch who are constantly on the go in this age of cell phones. I personally don't have a land line phone; in addition to that, I've not once participated in the primaries either. But you can rest assured, I will be there for Dr. Paul in full support when that time arrives. And this scenario plays out several times for other supporters, as well.

    As it has already been mentioned, the straw polls are another great indicator of Dr. Paul's strength in supporters but how often is that mentioned by the mainstream media?

    December 17, 2007 at 3:51 pm |
  213. Ruby Justice

    Who said Dr. Pau's numbers are low?? Ha!

    Dr. Paul is only low in the "Old Media" polls because the Old Media (OM) take most of their own polls and report on the results in their own pre-fabricated way.

    Dr. Paul has won EVERY online poll, and EVERY post-debate online poll, and every international poll and every military poll; but the OM is still in denial and out-of-touch with the free people of America.

    Ruby Justice
    Arlington, VA

    December 17, 2007 at 3:51 pm |
  214. Trent S

    Jack, we need more intelligent media types like yourself to give RP a fair shake. If they did, America would get a chance to wake up and also get on the RP band wagon. Else, the polls do not take in to account supporters that areDemocrats, Independents, or others that have never participated in the political process before. If only the rest of your CNN counterparts could be as fair as you, instead of blindsiding RP with misleading questions, and always stating he most likely won't get the nomination. Start saying that he could do it, and people and polls will follow.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:51 pm |
  215. Chris Anticoli

    I'm a firm believer that Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls because he's not getting the attention he deserves in the mainstream media. It's a shame that personal image (i.e., being a woman or African American) triumphs core values and beliefs. Ron Paul is a hero to this country and it's a shame that people haven't been given the chance to hear him yet.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:51 pm |
  216. Doubting Thomas

    Jack, is Paul Ron, Ron Paul, Peter Paul, Almond Joy or whatever the Ross Perot of 2008? Raise the money, run, hand the election to Clinton and disappear off the face of the earth.

    This guy's got as much chance of being elected as Jeb Bush and is a lot scarier. Don't worry guys, Osama won't attack us again. It's take him four years to stop laughing!

    Oh, Mr. Kucinich, we've got another passenger for the UFO space flight!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:51 pm |
  217. David Conklin

    The best way to explain the great difference is by quoting a paulite "The British didn't know they had a problem until Yorktown".

    December 17, 2007 at 3:52 pm |
  218. Martin Coates IV

    The land line phone poll work on the faulty premise that people haven't moved to cell phones. And even those polls ( that is the ones that actually put Capt. Dr. Rep. Paul in options) get the reply that most do not know who he is. Of those that have viewed him speak either in person or on youtube.com, they not only campaign for him, they donate in the millions for him, I think they will also vote for him.

    If the media spent half as much time on the "Second Tier" as y'all do on the "First Tier", then we would even have tiers, only people running for office. Give every candidate who's name is on the ballet equal coverage, equal time during the debates, and stop constantly saying candidate x cannot win because you say he cannot; and then you will see Capt. Dr. Rep Paul surge in the polls.

    If the system is truly fair, then anyone whose name is on the ballet should have an equal chance of winning as anyone else whose name is on the ballet.

    -Martin Coates IV

    December 17, 2007 at 3:53 pm |
  219. Travis French

    I question the accuracy of all these polls. The poll on CNN's Election Center is a prime example. It shows Paul at 6%, an abysmal number when you consider the margin of error. Though there are eight candidates in the race. In addition to margin of error the fine print also mentions that the poll was conducted in October. Can a poll that old reflect what will really happen at the caucus? Paul certainly has enough money to last until Super Tuesday.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:53 pm |
  220. Delain

    "There are lies, damned lies and statistics." Mark Twain

    "There are lies, damned lies and polls." Delain

    December 17, 2007 at 3:54 pm |
  221. ed in kc

    Its only a poll if the numbers reflect who the elite want to win are winning.

    otherwise its spam if a candidate who is there to challenge the corrupt establishment is winning.

    Why? because the elite owned media and polling methods are there to herd you sheep into another 4 years of desparity, and you will fall into line, and vote for the "winner", just like you won with bush, the last time.

    WAKE UP PEOPLE, vote for FREEDOM And LIBERTY, Stand Up and count for yourself and the USA.

    Do you realize – 40% of the population has only seen a Bush or Clinton in the White House in thier entire lifetime? Do you really want to be ruled by the Elite?

    Register to vote in your Republican Primary NOW!

    December 17, 2007 at 3:55 pm |
  222. Mary Ann

    That is the 6 Million dollar question. I was polled by phone just last week and didn't catch the name of the poll. I was given 1-5 named choices, #6 was OTHER #7 "don't poll me and remove my # from the call list. I didn't here the name of my choice and pushed #6, ( sorry we will remove your number from our calling list and will not call you again) WHAT!!!! WAIT!!! THAT WAS #7's BUTTON, NOT #6. The numbers will never match the money until the polls are all inclusive. "We The People" are a patient lot and there will come a day when the nation will not be able to ignore us. http://www.ronpaul2008.com

    December 17, 2007 at 3:55 pm |
  223. marty

    Ron Paul will win.
    He will crush every opponent placed in front of him
    No Quarter will be given.
    I had three people talk to me today about Ron Paul saying they will support him 2 were democrats

    December 17, 2007 at 3:56 pm |
  224. Anthony Garritano

    He's an anti-Iraq War candidate trying to get the support of mainstream Republicans. Good Luck Mr. Paul. There's a greater chance of President Bush himself coming out and telling to truth that he trumped up the case to get us in the war in the first place, then there is of any anti-Iraq War candidate getting support in the Repiblican primaries. Start lying to the American people and pandering to big business, that'll get you the support of mainstream Republicans. Forming a third party would be a wise use of all that cash so this way Republicans with commonsense can have a good candidate to get behind. But then again most Republicans don't use commonsense, you might be better off just taking your millions and running as far away with it as possible.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:56 pm |
  225. Tim Ryan, Cartersville, Georgia

    That's a very good question, Jack. Why indeed? We have a paradox. I choose to believe what I can see with my own eyes rather than polling methods financed by special interests. Ron Paul has broken fundraising records, wins countless straw & online polls, has the most creative and active supporters, and even has his own blimp! With broad support of "unlikely" Republican voters his impact on this race will not be measured until the elections.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:56 pm |
  226. Tyler, NC

    Personally, I'm astonished that Ron Paul received 6 million dollars yesterday. It seems like a lot of money going to waste. Polls or not Ron Paul has no chance.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:57 pm |
  227. Bryan in Iowa

    Is it me or does the media not get it? The 'polls' are not true scientific guages on how the population truly feels. When I took sociology in college I was taught a verifiable sampling of any population must be at least 10% of the population. The polls taken by media outlets usually include 1000 respondents or less...this is hardly 10% of the population. I do enjoy watching the CNN.com Quick Poll, it usually has several tens of thousands respondents...which is more accurate. To say it is not viable due to multiple hits by one user is insignifant. I don't think too many people sit at the computer simply to inflate a poll.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:57 pm |
  228. Josh Hostetler

    Projected polls are based upon "likely primary voters". Ron Paul's fervent following consists of many "non-likely primary voters", including a strong majority of college students (myself included). I strongly believe the political experts will be shocked when the results from Iowa and New Hampshire are released; a grassroots phenomenon of this magnitude has never been seen. As one of the "non-likely primary voters", I plan on voting in Florida primary. Dr. Ron Paul has cured my apathy.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:59 pm |
  229. Chris Rhoades

    It should come as no surprise. In CNN's own YouTube debate the questions picked for him were deplorable. One was trying to make him look conspiritorial whereas the other one asked if he was going to run 3rd party for the umpteenth time. I'm sure if America would hear of his views of limited government, fiscal conservativism, and a strong national defense – his numbers would be higher.

    December 17, 2007 at 3:59 pm |
  230. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Just because people invest in fools gold it does not make it anymore valuable. People go to Casinos all the time and throw their hard earned money away on hopes and dreams of striking it rich. The average donation to Paul's campaign was 50 dollars that equates to 120 thousand people and THAT is a very small percentage of America. That will not buy Ron Paul an isle seat on the so long farewell failed candidate train that is about to pull out of the station.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:00 pm |
  231. John Smith

    The thing to keep in mind about Dr. Paul is that he appeals to a younger generation as well as individuals who have sat idley by the last few election cycles pesimistically scoffing at their continued choices of one evil over another.

    As a New Hampshire supporter stated at a ralley "For the millions of people who don't vote...this is the guy you've been waiting to vote for".

    Ron Paul and his "WAR ON 'ERROR" has awakened the slumbering giant that has been disenfranchised for the last 16 years. I find it laughable that the very polls that claim to be scientific only actually "poll" a very small select segment of the population. What these polls have failed to do is query the millions who are fed up with our federal government and who have not voted in the last two elections as well as those who were teenagers during the 2004 elections who are now awakening to the fact that they are going to get nothing for Social Security, a state of perpetual war and a lifetime of providing entitlements to the indigent cheap labor that big business brings into this country as well as the continued assault on their civil liberties.

    The only people who hate us for our wealth and freedoms seem to be our crooked elected officials who continue to peel away our civil rights and tax us into oblivion.

    John Smith, Alpharetta, GA

    December 17, 2007 at 4:01 pm |
  232. Brandi

    The media is not giving the proper amount of attention to Ron Paul. The people who somehow find out about him like his ideas, and are the most fervent supporters of any candidate I've known about. If the mainstream media is not giving the "people" what they want, you can't blame us for wondering why. If they truly are the unbiased information providers they claim to be, then they have nothing to lose by letting the people in on this wonderful man. So please fill in the missing variable of this equation, because I cannot get it to add up.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:01 pm |
  233. Mariah

    Welcome to the Twilight Zone. Ron Paul is the most searched for candidate online, but he garners the least amount of mainstream media coverage. He receives the most donations from declared military, but he's slammed for his foreign policy. He speaks truth and makes logical, informed sense, but he's labeled as "fringe" and "wacko". Some even have the audacity to say he's not a Republican even after winning 10 terms as one and espousing true conservative values: lower taxes and limited government. Should we really be surprised that he's not polling higher in traditional polls despite attracting 20,000 first-time donors in one day?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:02 pm |
  234. cliff

    He doesn't poll higher because allot of the phone polls don't even have him as a choice. There is also the issue that allot of the phone polls only contact people with a land line and now with more and more people that have VOIP and cell phones they don't even get asked. Most of the time all they are asking are older people that are not up on new technology, it's not brain surgury to figure out. On top of that the polls you guys site are polls that weren't even accurrate way back in the day. Now people are more online than ever before but for some reason you guys don't take the online polls seriously. These polls are just as accurate as all the others yet they get no mention. Think about this for a second, if the other candidates are so high in the polls then how come it doesn't show online as well? Where is there support? If they are so popular where is the money at? Where are the people in the streets? CNN can not expect us to ever take them seriously if everything we see contradicts their coverage. Don't the executives there understand that by ignoring a movement like this they are shooting themselves in the foot? Why would you ever be worthy of our trust when at every turn we are ignored by you? Every minute that media outlets ignore this they are losing future viewers to online media which has proven lately to have more substance and information.

    Jack....you are too smart to be asking a question that you already know the answer to. Quit dumbing down the discussion and just say it out loud "RON PAUL IS REAL AND HIS SUPPORT IS REAL". Throw away your polls Jack, you know they aren't real, if they were we wouldn't be blowing up the internet and the street corners with Ron Paul propaganda. The fact is that no matter where Ron Paul goes his people will follow. Even if he doesn't get the republican nomination and goes independant we will vote for him. If he drops out completely we will write him in. This is not about Ron Paul, this is about us and Ron just happens to be the guy we picked.

    Regardless of your lack of Ron Paul coverage i still ove you Jack. You need your own show. 30 second doses of Jack Cafferty are no good we need an hour every night.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:02 pm |
  235. Darren D.

    Hi Jack,

    Thanks for your integrity.

    The polls did not help Wesley Clark and Howard Dean in 2004. The polls did not help Mario Cuomo, Jesse Jackson, and Gov. Brown in 1991. The polls don't elect Presidents, people getting in their cars, going to the polls, and voting get Presidents elected. President Paul's supporters will go to the polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:02 pm |
  236. Travis

    Perhaps it's in the personality of the kind of people that back Dr. Paul. I know I have very little patience for pollsters, telemarketers and the like. It is very difficult to get someone's opinion when they don't want to talk to you.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:02 pm |
  237. Randy

    Jack, Ron Paul is off the chart in all indicators except these 'scientific polls', He raised more money in one day then Mike Huckbee the 'frontrunner' has raised all this quarter. He has won more GOP straw polls then any other by wide margins, He has grassroots support out of this world, etc, etc

    It is a no brainer to which i trust, all of these indicators of strength and the thousands and thousands of people willing to give money right before Christmas to a political candidate or these 'scientific polls'. I think i will go with all these other indicators rather then these 'scientific polls', which i believe are totally unreliable and biased on how they are structured.

    Someone told me that Zogby did a fair and balalnced poll and in that poll, Ron Paul pulled 30% of the vote beating all others. Why did we not hear about that polls result in the mainstreet media?

    Let me ask you a question Jack, what if Ron Paul wins and the people fiqure out these polls are not reliable, will they blame just those who put out these polls or will they blame the main street media also which touts these polls as Gospel when it is the worst kind of false trash to assist the mainstreet media in trying to select the President for the American People ????

    December 17, 2007 at 4:03 pm |
  238. Kent D Oyler


    It is probably because the polls are wrong, that is the polls that say 70% of Americans want a rapid end to the war in Iraq.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:03 pm |
  239. cee cee carter

    No one has ever polled me or the hundred or so Ron Paul supporters I know personally. NOT ONE of us has ever been polled...and my guess is that the POLLS will never reflect the true level of Ron Paul PLATFORM support.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:04 pm |
  240. Adam Yonce

    I believe Congressman Paul's poll numbers are low for several reasons. First, he doesn't have the name recognition of some of the other candidates, although that is changing.

    Second, the name Ron Paul often gets left out of the polls. I don't understand why the media puts up with this. You are all aware of the unprecedented grassroots movement out in the streets of America. If you doubt the pervasiveness of this movement, walk into a bar and say "Ron Paul!" and see how many people shout back and offer to buy you a drink!

    Third, the Republican National Committee hasn't really supported him. I suspect they are hesitant to support a candidate from their own party who is such a philosophical opposite of President Bush. After all, they did get Bush get elected twice. The RNC fails to see however, that the American people have lost faith in Bush, and we feel that we have given up too many of our personal liberties and rights as a result of the Bush presidency.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:04 pm |
  241. Chad

    Simple Answer : Name Recognition. But as name recognition increased so have his poll numbers and fundraising capability.

    Perhaps you can answer a question for me. Why doesn't the media talk about polls like this?


    closing paragraph:

    "The blind bio question was also posed to a larger pool of 1,009 likely voters nationwide, including Democrats and independents, and Paul was the big winner among that universe of voters, winning 33%, compared to 19% for Giuliani, 15% for Romney, and 13% for Thompson."

    Thank you for your work,

    December 17, 2007 at 4:04 pm |
  242. Kate Jacobson

    This morning I was polled by phone by an auto-poller. I was presented with a list of names:

    Press 1 for Giuliani
    Press 2 for Romney
    Press 6 for Paul

    I pressed "6", but nothing happened - the automated voice kept reading further choices. I thought that maybe I needed to wait until all the names had been read, but after I pressed "6" again after the last choice had been read to me, I still didn't get any acknowledgement that my choice had registered.

    Then the poll started OVER! It seems like my vote for Paul hadn't been recognized. This time, my choices were the 5 supposed "top tier" candidates (didn't include Paul), and then "6" was Other. ("7" was to select to not be included in future polls.) I pressed "6" again, and I received the response, "Thank you for your input. We'll be sure not to bother you with future polls."

    December 17, 2007 at 4:05 pm |
  243. Shane

    I believe it is pretty simple. Day in, day out, regular people go through their lives working eight or more hours day, commuting long hours, struggling to make ends meet with their families. They feel something isn't right with their country, they work harder and harder but the bills just seem to keep growing faster, and faster. They want an end to a war, but no one seems to represent their views. They might have one to two hours a day to possibly keep up with politics, but all they hear is Romney, Clinton, etc, yet all the candidates leave them with an empty feeling. The people are asleep and just don't know it.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:05 pm |
  244. Mary Dickinson

    Apparently, the arrogant press drives the candidate choice for the American electorate. Senator Gravel was treated so disrespectfully by the press that I was embarrassed. Of course, don't expect the corporate owned and run press to recall that Gravel was a major force behind the anti- war movement and stopping the draft, or to acknowledge that Ron Paul has some excellent ideas.

    Both parties are bought and paid for by the corporations. There is no difference b/t either of them. Any politician w/ guts to tell the truth is locked out. Jack, Romney is so slick that he could sell outhouses to plumbing contractors!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:06 pm |
  245. John Long

    Simple. The polls do not take into account the diverse group Ron Paul has brought into the political forum. If you look at straw polls across the country and other polls you will see Ron Paul is very popular and very high on the polls. Instead of looking at the poll numbers you may need to look at the polls you get your information from.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:07 pm |
  246. Steve K

    I think the overwhelming answer is that those precious polls, so beloved by MSM and status quo politician alike, are seriously flawed. Oh how I look forward to the rude awakening that lies ahead!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:08 pm |
  247. Rob J

    The "old line" of the Republican Party leadership spent a lot of time in the early months trying to squash Ron Paul talk and did a very good job convincing the media that Dr. Paul was a non-entity. The reason is clear, they do not want to give up the power they have created inside the Party.

    The Republican Party needs to reread it's our charter to understand they have strayed from the true path of conservatism. Congressman Paul is not the messenger they wanted. Fun thing is the Republican Party is learning what the Democratic Party already knows, when you give people a voice they talk.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:08 pm |
  248. David

    Dr. Paul is the only candidate of either party who suggests that the government act ethically. Most people have no idea how rare that is. Usually, suggestions that the US act ethically, especially with regard to foreign policy, are met with loud boos. Until we, as a nation, admit that we keep sickeningly hypocritical double-standards, we will always elect scoundrels and never deserve a decent man like Ron Paul. What you do you must condone. Another problem for Dr. Paul is that he is the only one addressing the most serious threats to America, but people are entirely ignorant of these problems - they are not informed. This ignorance results in subjective "crazy old uncle" comments. It's also why the other candidates don't address these things - they are playing to the lowest common denominator, which is a dumbed-down public.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:09 pm |
  249. Jack K.


    I think Ron Paul's whole wacky campaign is a fund-raising scheme created at the highest level of RNC leadership. The RNC knows contributions to conservatives are way down. But the moderate and liberal voices are making record contributions to the democrats. By putting Ron Paul into the race–with his absurdly liberal agenda (which will NEVER get him elected as a Republican) will generate tons of revenue from liberals and moderates who are against the war. After the primaries, and Ron Pauls sure loss– all the money will go to the general election coffers of the RNC . The GOP will have lots of cash for the general election–provided by liberals!!! The Chairman of the RNC is a genius!! And Ron Paul is either unaware he's being used–or also part of the conspiracy–to beat the liberals with their own money. They'll be laughing all the way to the bank!!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:09 pm |
  250. Solomon

    I think it is important to distinguish between active and passive measures of support. In every active gauge of popularity Dr. Paul's results are amazing. He raises the most money from more individual donors than any other candidate, wins every internet and text message poll, wins a huge percentage of straw polls, and is searched for more on google than any other candidate (democrat included). In passive polls, the telephone polls to likely voters, Dr. Paul is not doing well.

    This disconnect between active and passive metrics is simple to explain. The methods through which the passive voter gets information; television, radio, and newspaper, give little attention to Dr. Paul, and routinely announce that he has no chance of winning.

    Generally, traditional news sources pay a lot of attention to these active measures of support and report the results to the passive voters. This has not happened in the case of Dr. Paul. However, in evaluating "likely republican voters," I feel these active measures more accurately predict who's going to brave the cold weather to go vote in a primary.


    December 17, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
  251. Mike

    Ron Who?????????

    December 17, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
  252. Tony Andrews


    I really appreciate guys in the media like yourself, who make it a priority to get the answers to questions, no matter who likes or dislikes what those answers might imply.

    Ron Paul IS registering in the polls. However, for some reason, he is omitted from many polls, or is counted in a catch-all 'other'-type category. I don't think the American people really trust polls anymore, anyway. Even the candidates tend to shy away from quoting poll numbers, these days. Too many pollsters know how to get the results they want, or the kind of results that would make the group that commissioned the poll happy. There is a conflict of interest, there, I fear.

    Another problem is the people in the media who don't make objectivity a priority. Many are too lazy to get all the facts, or even state the few facts they've collected accurately. You don't fall into that category, but many do. Very many.

    Thanks again,

    December 17, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
  253. Christian

    The media weighs in on who they think will win. Also are polls regulated by any governing body?
    Any real Ron Paul supporter knows that these polls aren't neccesarily true and Ron Paul is as likely to win as any other candidate. The young people are mobilized to support him.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  254. Darren Casella


    If you really want to understand this phenomenon, just check out these four youtube videos – they explain everything through demonstration.





    p.s. – love your show ! You and Lou are two of the best out there.


    December 17, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  255. Matthew

    Obviously there is something wrong with these polls, since every other metric seems to indicate that Ron Paul is wildly popular.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  256. Jessica

    Money does not equate to political prowess. Rabid fan bases do not equate to sound concepts and ideas that will better our country.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  257. Jason Copenhaver

    I'd ask your boss why he doesn't want Ron Paul having more media spotlight.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  258. Dave C

    Simple. Limited, if any, media coverage.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  259. Dee Dee

    Ron Paul isn't one of the media's favorites or considered one of the chosen few. If he were to get more media coverage he'd score higher on the polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  260. Mike

    Jack, is this a trick question? It's very simple . . . the media.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  261. Jon L.

    Jack you forgot to mention how it's the biggest 24hr fundraising drive in POLITICAL HISTORY!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  262. Yaniv

    Ron Paul is lagging in the polls because the media tries to bash him. In the last CNN Republican-Youtube debate, he got very little time to speak. Furthermore, the questions he was asked, particularly by the person who suggested Paul should Ron as an independent because he has no chance, are completely defaming. They make Ron Paul look bad, and that's what the media wants. Shame on you, CNN.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  263. John V, Sacramento, CA

    As a Liberal Democrat, I have watched Ron Paul over the last year. I don't understand why the media doesn't get that he represents a very disaffected segment of the Republican Party that hasn't had a real voice since Pat Buchanan in 1992. I'd never vote for him because I disagree with him philosophically on just about every major question of the day (on the instances where I do agree with him, it's for very different reasons). The Republicans operate like a massive corporation. And Ron Paul represents a shareholders revolt. Won't be successful, but for them, getting their issues out is tantamount to victory.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  264. Alex Smith

    Two words Jack. Media coverage.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  265. David Rand

    The reason why he's not higher in the polls is because these "national polls" are conducted by "likely" republican voters. What the people do not understand is Ron Paul's supporters are mainly apathetic voters who are voting for the first time or democrats who have left the Republican party.

    The fact is, Ron Paul has more supporters then any other candidate running for president. Republican and Democratic COMBINED.

    The supporters are not listening to "national polls" and their voice will be heard.

    David Rand
    San Antonio, TX

    December 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  266. Suhail Syed

    Many of those "scientific polls" seem to lack science and be used in a biased way. 2 examples: 1) Ron Paul's name is not included in many of those polls. 2) Samples are taken from previous Republican voters who are "considered likely to vote". Traditional Straw Polls have been ignored by mainstream media, even the national caucus. Anything pointing to Ron Paul is disregarded or discredited. If he supported the war then I'm sure mainstream media would love him, but thank god he's against the Iraq war.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  267. Ken KS

    Very simply. Ron Paul has the support of an angry citizenry, those of us who are frustrated with the business as usual president, Congress and the media who ram the currently leading candidates down our throats. However, Ron Paul is not one of the boys, so Corporate America and their media machines do not want him. I guess Dr. Paul won't be their yes man/will do man.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  268. Ken Haywood, Effingham, Illinois

    I think the numbers in the polls for Dr. Paul will start to rise as more and more people do thier civic duties of researching thier choices. They will start to find what Paul supporters have already discovered, consistency in his values. That is why his supporters are so passionate about hier efforts, they believe in honesty and integrity. If that message goes nationwide now that Dr. Paul has the money to get his message out, polls are going to matter.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  269. Brandy Wilson

    The reasons are the "Push Polling" of Ron Paul...or The pollsters are not giving the "RON PAUL" as an option...that's not soooo hard to figure out!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  270. Eric Herdzik, NY

    Because the national polls are based on who voted in the 2004 primary elections. Let's not forget that Bush ran for reelection in 2004 and had no opposition in the primaries, therefore most of the people being polled are devoted Bush supporters. Had registered republicans been polled in general regardless of whether or not they voted in 2004, I'm confident you would see quite different numbers. You know the poll results are innaccurate when the only people who show up to see Rudy Giuliani speak are Ron Paul supporters who run him out of town.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  271. Brian

    Because Polls are called to more traditional homes, the ones who still use landline Telephones. As you know, the new generation uses cell phones and internet communications, and do not have a hardwired phone. This is an entire generation not covered by traditional polling.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  272. Trish O.

    I'll tell you why he is so low in the polls. It is because the polls are useless these days. Most people have no home phone so they can't get a poll call. Also, they are not calling all the democrats and independents that are supporting Ron Paul. We are all democrats here and we are ALL supporting Ron Paul. He is the only candidate that is telling the truth. He isn't a controlled plastic cut out of a candidate. I'm disgusted with the rest of them.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  273. Mike Binns

    It's simple: He gets no air time on main stream media. He breaks all records yesterday, and yet today Lieberman is getting more air time than he is.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  274. James Shaw

    People want to believe in some thing, but we also understand that Paul is not a President. Nothing about him looks presidential. He has great ideas but his ideas are things that we hope for but understand can not ever be done. We give me because we hope, but we vote for others because we understand.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  275. RonPaulForTheLongHaul

    I pray that the mainstream media embraces this as an opportunity to debate Ron Paul's positions in an intelligent and informed manner.

    We've already seen the disastrous effects of a complacent media that parrots the talking points and opinions of pundits from the government with regards to the Iraq war. We're also seeing a similar push for war in Iran. Please see the excellent Bill Moyer's story "Buying the War" for a record of this lack of reporting and critical analysis.

    If Ron Paul is as wrong about a non-interventionist foreign policy as many in the establishment media say he is then it should be simple for them to demolish his arguments without resorting to distortion and name calling. What we have not seen is any attempt at a discussion over US interventionist foreign policy vs non-interventionist foreign policy. No, the media and the other candidates would rather resort to labeling Ron Paul as isolationist (which is obvious doublethink) or comparing Iran to Nazi Germany when it is the US that is the aggressor.

    Just a few days ago, Newsweek ran a story that celebrates the patriotism of Anh Duong, a Vietnamese refugee that now works for the DoD on mobile death labs that will be used to determine if an Iraqi insurgent should be killed on the spot by referring to a biometric database. These Iraqi insurgents are just trying to defend their country, their religion and their way of life. Iraq has never posed a clear and present danger to the US – despite the lies and distortion that come from Washington. Has the US become the Nazi Germany of the 21st century?

    The US is like a dumb kid with a stick that goes around poking bee hives (Muslim nations) to get at their honey (oil). When the dumb kid is repeatedly stung by bees the dumb kid labels all bees as evil and commences a campaign to destroy all bee hives which only provokes more animosity from the bees and more stings. If the dumb kid would just leave the bees alone perhaps he would be better off.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  276. Deb Thomsen

    Maybe he doesn't move up in the polls because you spend all your time reporting the poll numbers and never reporting what Ron Paul actually says.

    Try reading this:



    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  277. Charlie Cregor

    Dear Jack,

    Congressman Ron Paul doesn't receive the numbers in the polls because the Neo-Cons and the Mainstream Media don't want him to win. The polls are "bogus and meaningless!"

    Dr. Ron Paul represents the change I want, and he's picking up Democrats like I who are furious with the Democratic Party!

    Charlie Cregor
    Dallas TX

    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  278. Evonne/ Trinity, NC

    Maybe the pollsters aren't asking the right people. I know I've never been contacted.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  279. gt

    They are polling the wrong people.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  280. Kevin Barber

    Ron Paul's campaign stances do not fit on a postcard, a billboard, or a few minutes spread across a few debates. Ron Paul's principles and stances on the various issues affecting our country have to be fully researched and understood before you can come to understand that it's the right path for conservative republicans and in a greater sense, this country.

    You cannot support his position on limited government without research. Same for his views of our monitary policy, pollution (enviroment), or even the war in Iraq.

    Put out a poll asking what a non-intervention policy means, and you'll see the 5% who know are the 5% voting for Ron Paul.

    The United States was founded as a Republic, and Ron Paul is standing up for it. The 5% who support him nationally are the 5% whom have done the work to understand him and his plans to inflict change upon the serious isues affecting this country.

    In fact, no wonder he has such an Internet following, b/c the Internet is the primary tool you'd use to discover, research, and understand Ron Paul. Until he becomes a leader in the polls, there is no other way to get the info one 'needs to know' about Ron Paul to make an educated decision to loyally support him for President of the United States.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  281. Matt

    Ron Paul can't get ahead in the polls because he sticks to his guns and tells the truth. Get with the program Jack, we have no room for honest people in our government.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  282. Bobby

    Mr. Cafferty, Pauls raising money just proves that many people believe in him. He just needs to re-think on some of his issues and he might have a shot.


    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  283. Matt M.

    The answer to your question should be obvious: The true Owners of this country do not want a man such as Ron Paul elected because he does not unfailingly support Big Business. Ron Paul does the exact same thing our original Founding Fathers did, and that is to put the American people above the interests of the Federal Government. To the real owners of this country, this is a pretty big wrench in the works.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  284. Jacob

    The only reason Ron Paul does not get the respect and media attention he deserves is because the same people that own the media own the weapons manufacturing companies. They want more war so they can make more money. It's sad and the American people are bamboozled. We are only told what we are supposed to know. Even worse we are lied to. Ron Paul is Americas only hope. This is the most important election in modern history.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  285. Travis Payne

    Jack, the real question you should ask is how many of the polls actually had Dr. Paul listed as a choice? Although the media has gone to great lengths to pick our candidates for us, the American people have other ideas this time around.

    Now a question for you, are you really that surprised?

    Travis Payne
    Houston, Tx.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  286. Aaron Kreke

    Ron Paul just HAS NOT been mentioned in the mainstream media enough. He has won every post debate poll, he has won every straw poll, he has raised over 6 million dollars in a 24 hour period – still no mention. What do we have to do to get our voices heard?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  287. Erik Viker

    Here's a conspiracy theory for you: Those who own controlling interests in major U.S. media companies are expected (or required) by prior agreement to support so-called Republican frontrunners. The polls, which are for the most part generated by media companies, therefore are carefully engineered to exclude Congressman Paul as a serious candidate. Congressman Paul does not support the mainstream Republican party line so the RNC works hard to eliminate him as a candidate.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  288. Ryan, Swansboro, NC

    If Ron Paul recieved the amount of airtime that John McCain has recieved on national news programs (someone with the same polling numbers as Paul in many states), I have no doubt that he would be a front-runner. The little airtime Paul does get in the news is usually accompanied by snide comments from anchors and hosts. Show me unbiased, equal treatment of candidates by the mainstream media, and i will show you President Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  289. superkev

    I think the reason he's not ranking in the polls is because of the method for polling. I'm 23 and highly interested in politics, and I've noticed that those in my generation don't seem to receive calls from the pollsters. We have cell phones instead of land-lines. They aren't geographically-based and people are less likely to agree to a lengthy survey due to wireless minute rates. More accurate, I think, are the straw polls. Just like the primaries, straw polls require people to actually get off their butt and be proactive. Ron Paul supporters are more likely to get out there and vote than any other candidate.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  290. Fabian Rivera

    1. Ron has won more straw polls than everyone else.

    2. He has received more donations and support from military servicemen than all the other Republican candidates combined.

    3. Well over 200,000 donors have contributed to the campaign this quarter.

    As mentioned before, these polls do not reflect the reality of who's receiving the most support. Ron's message is spreading like wildfire, and we are now the majority.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  291. Jack

    because the mainstream media thinks an endorsement by a has been like Joe Lieberman is more "news worthy" than a man who raises $6 million in one day.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  292. Lynn from Jersey Shore

    Because the media has underestimated him... and it is really a-PAUL-ing!!!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  293. Calvin Tussey

    Polls, Polls, Polls...

    The reason Ron Paul's support doesn't translate to national polls is because he is often left, or excluded due to his absence from "top tier" candidates. How come someone who has broken fund raising records isn't regarded as top tier when we are illusioned to believe that the other candidates are even worthy to represent and uhold the contract between us, the people, and the government.

    In my college courses I must cite my sources, to insure their credibility.

    Why, then, must we be faced to believe magic numbers that OBVIOUSLY do not represent national opinion.

    Cafferty, this is a war between the people and big business.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  294. jovan

    Usually, $6,000,000 gets you a lot of attention. Not anymore, unfortunately. Dennis Kucinich is ignored even more than Mr. Paul by the media. How come no one talks about Dennis Kucinich but me and other feminist bloggers? I don't know how Mr. Paul is not getting anymore attention than he should, but this I do know: He is not a libertarian. He has advocated government's control over women's lives. That is authoritarianism, not libertarianism.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  295. Andrew Leibfried

    It takes more than just money to get the nomination for president. If for just one day Ron Paul got as much news coverage as Hillary or Romney his national numbers would increase dramatically. I think more coverage on the fact that Dr. Paul would remove troops from Iraq as soon as he took office is greatly needed. There are millions who share Dr. Paul's ideas but have never heard of him. I wish the news with the help of CNN could help get his name out there.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  296. Warren

    Has anyone ever thought that the polling process is antiquated and does not reflect the population's opinions? A single digit candidate does not raise that kinnd of money unless they are demorats and its union money or republifatcats getting oil money

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  297. Tom Bulger

    Pollsters ignore anyone they don't expect to be politically active. Ron Paul supporters are what I call Jeffersonian Democrats. They believe in the Constitution and the founding principles of America. No true American has run for public office in a long time so Jeffersonian Democrats have had no candidate to support.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  298. Ken Haywood, Effingham, Illinois

    edit....polls are NOT going to matter.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  299. Ryan Amidon

    Jack, this is a game. Pollsters call likely Republican voters when calculating their numbers. Ron's support, and therefore money, comes from people who maybe once belonged to the Republican party but abandoned it, when it abandoned it's own platform. Many voters declare themselves Independent. Ron Paul could bring these voters back in and expand their party, but the party won't let that happen. So they choose to be close minded and whiter away year by year.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  300. Troy

    Give Ron Paul the time on the air that the other candidates receive and the polls would shift dramatically. Look at how much time McCain is getting right now over something as trivial, and worthless, as support by Lieberman. Give Ron Paul the attention he deserves without just saying "a long shot with little chance to win" and Ron Paul will win the primaries, the elections, and turn this country around.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  301. Jake from Broken Arrow, OK

    Jack, the national polls have only been contacting people who were registered Republican and voted in the 2004 primaries for George Bush which was uncontested. Plus, as evidenced by taped phone polls, Ron Paul's name isn't even included on the list!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  302. Steve

    Simple...exposure...he isn't a MSM darling. The elites and the MSM have picked who they want to lead the country and promote them....CNN devoted a 5-10 minute interview with chillary this morning...do they interview Ron Paul for that long? NOPE...they pick and choose who and how to portray them...need I say more...Dr. Paul does need some polishing but look at jorge...his public speaking ability is limited and always comes across as a complete moron for the most part...Thompson is about the only one who is polished in front of a camera...

    Dr. Paul would be better off going independent and taking Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo with him...they might actually stand a good shot at it...none of the two-party candidates are worth it...they hispander and will do nothing for WE THE PEOPLE...

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  303. joe Kitchell

    Beyond the obvious fact that Ron Paul appeals to independents, polls and politicians represent many things, but they rarely represent the will of the people. They both are easily manipulated by special interest.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  304. dthomasdigital

    I agree, with allot of folks please stop asking if he will run under a 3rd party, let him run the way he is running. Why is he not getting the attention he deserves, might need to ask the media why that is. He raises 6 million plus and he gets a blurb here a blurb there. We all know the right thing to do and that is to support those who believe in letting the people run America not people who think they know how to run it for us.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  305. Ray Agrinzone

    Ron Paul signifies what America is about. Honesty, courage, and truth. Ron Paul is not for sale. We are truely witnessing a part of history. The Pandora's box did not only open, it exploded. Wake up America, it is time for change! Real Change, forget about the newly formed dem-rep party where everyone has the same agenda. Vote RP 08

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  306. Robert Carlstrom~ Grand Rapids, MI

    If you drive around Michigan the only signs you see are Ron Paul; there are more and more every day. As to why he isnt polling very high I wonder if the people doing the polling have an agenda to fill. There are a number of polls that Ron Paul is left out. Also what percentage of Ron Paul supporters have a land line for the pollsters to call, I dont. If you look at almost ever internet poll noboy is close. Ron Paul had a last start but he's here now. The revolution has begun we wont give until we get in the White house. Ron Paul jump started a movement our country desperatly needs.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  307. Brian

    I received an automated phone poll last week in which Ron Paul was included in the selections, when I pressed 6 to vote for Ron Paul the automated voice told me that I had chose the option to remove myself from the call list . I would not have thought this actually happened until it happened to me. I no longer trust the polls. Ron Paul has more support than the polls show.

    Sneads Ferry, NC

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  308. Kim Parone

    Many times his name is not included in the polls and there are also times that Ron Paul supporters have actually been turned away from straw poll events even when they have payed money (you can see proof of this on youtube). Also mainstream media barely speaks about him and when they do they usually add something in a derogatory way, this comment dissincludes you because you seem to be one of the only ones out there that keeps a fair outlook to all the candidates running. Thank you for that.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  309. ggbell95

    Ron Paul does not poll well because the media's "scientific" polls are not well prepared for a swelling populist movement like the "Ron Paul Revolution", which rapidly brings a large number of disenfranchised and disillusioned people from across all party lines into the political process.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  310. Charlie Murphy


    The fact that Ron Paul's message is so powerful and so epic, only goes to show the monetary and grassroots support he is receiving. Since the media doesnt expose his message as much as his supporters would like, Ron Paul supporter's do it for them. Many supporters never heard of Ron Paul until they saw his message on the internet. We are greatful for the mention on CNN, our point came across, that his message is important. Whether you realize it or not many other presidential candidates are looking up to Ron Paul's site for fundraising ideas. "Stop the handshows for Thompsons campain sought 2,400 supporters " Huckabee has a december goal of 1.1 million dollars... seem familiar from Ron Pauls 12 million dollar 4th quarter goal. I think so. Ron Pauls message is slowly being adopted by the other candidates. It's Ron Paul who has been correct for his entire campaign, now America is realizing that he was right all along.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  311. Derek

    You know the answer Jack; land lines and registered republicans that voted in the 2004 primaries. Most of the responders here seem to know that. It's very easy to slant statistics in your favor to justify any argument.

    I think the real question should be two-part: 1) Why don't the talking heads say how the poll is conducted every time they read the statistics and 2) why don't they question the rationale of this type of polling?

    Derek Silver
    Centreville, VA

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  312. Dustin

    Hi Jack,

    Dr. Paul is low in the polls for one simple reason, he is not listed as a candidate. On the telephone polls I have seen, he has been either left off or considered "other". How could anybody do well in a poll in which they are not included?
    Dr. Paul has won every single poll after the debates and a major majority of the straw polls around the county but the media doesnt cover those polls.
    There seems to be overwhelming support for Dr. Paul from the people which I do not see for any other candidate. Could it be possible that the Media is ignoring Dr. Paul for a reason?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  313. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Ron Paul has sponsored many more bills than the average representative, such as those that would abolish the income tax or the Federal reserve. Many do not reach the House floor for a vote because most are worthless. I can not think of one piece of legislation that Ron Paul has gotten passed that is of any benefit to a majority of people. And this is after years of having the ability to do something worthwhile in congress and failing to do so because he devoted his time to pipe dreams like abolishing income tax instead of what he was paid to do. That in my honest opinion is why Paul does not do well in the polls. He is half a bubble off level.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  314. Lesley

    From the beginning, the media and the public have doubted Ron Paul's chances to win. Everyone I know who likes Ron Paul's ideas are convinced that he will never make it past the primaries, but sympathize enough with his efforts that they're willing to make a donation. Nobody thinks Ron Paul has a chance because he doesn't look like a President, or act like a President, he doesn't play the games and he talks about a revolution. These are all things the public are becoming more and more desperate to see in the candidates, but the idea that someone who has those qualities could actually win...? Well that's not how our government has worked, at least not in my generation.

    Ron Paul is the only candidate running as a Republican that I have ever really considered voting for. If he and one of the three front-runners on the Democratic side end up running against each other next year, I will be happy with whoever wins. For the past twenty years we have been struggling to choose the lesser of two evils, and finally there is hope that we will soon have the pick of the litter.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  315. Karin

    It depends on who is getting polled. I have never been asked or given the opportunity to take a national poll...it would be my guess that it goes the same for other Ron Paul supporters. There are probably alot more of us out there...we're just not being heard...yet!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  316. Kyle

    The answer is simple Dr. Paul's number seem low because the media polls people by telephone only. Why don't they show the online polls of Ron Paul's numbers or how about the states straw polls which Paul has won the majority of. If the media would be as bold as you are to talk about the amazing grass roots, there would be a revolution to put the only candidate of integrity in the White House. God bless you Jack, and God bless Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  317. peter guellard, Pittsburgh

    Jack, I can't believe that such intelligent journalist like yourself can even post such dumb question. It's the land line phone polls stupid!
    The majority of Ron Paul supporters are younger people who simply do not use land line phone connections. The polls are conducted by calling land lines, not the cell phones or the internet.
    Anyways, thanks for the question, no matter how silly it is... every time you mention Ron Paul, we the supporters, appreciate it a lot. Ron Paul has been neglected by the main stream media, hopefully with this money he will be able to buy the media.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  318. Brian

    Because Ron Paul is changing the face of Politics in America....... The Polls are askew my fine friend.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  319. James Shaw

    People want to believe in some thing, but we also understand that Paul is not a President. Nothing about him looks presidential. He has great ideas but his ideas are things that we hope for but understand can not ever be done. We give money because we hope, but we vote for others because we understand.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  320. Justin In Buffalo

    The question should be how accurate are these polls in the first place? Personally I have never been contacted by one of these polling groups, and I've seen many online straw polls that specifically exclude Dr Paul. Breaking fund raising records without even being involved in the event just goes to show there are many more of us Ron Paul supporters out there than you account for.


    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  321. Elaton Georges

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because polls are meant to manipulate perception and you guys in the media are doing a good job at ignoring him. If Hillary made 6 million in a day you'd have to turn the tv off to stop hearing about it.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  322. Rich

    Its really simple Jack, Your looking at the polls that do not include Rons name unlike the straw polls across the nation that he has won more than any other candidate running for the GOP nomination. Americans are waking up and we've had a belly full

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  323. Tom Rasor

    Ron Paul is becoming more popular with everyday Americans because they identify with his concerns and values. We have been under the spell of the elite few, whose politics have lost all touch with the average citizen. Anyone that takes time to view Dr. Paul's message and filter out the elitists’ propaganda, will see him as the presidential choice whose time has come.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  324. Maria

    Here's my question: If Ron Paul supporters independent from the campaign can raise $6 million in one day, why can't I-am-higher-in-the-polls-than-thou Giuliabee McRompson?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  325. Robert

    Most polls are taken by people answering there land line phones and have previously voted for a particular party. I have not had a land line in years. Ron Paul draws votes from Independent, Republican and Democrat. There is no base to poll off of. Ron Paul is creating his own base. You would think that candidate generating that much income on a day and that much buzz every time is name is mentioned would garner more coverage from the news outlets like CNN. Sadly it seems that the mainstream media is not following the mainstream pulse of this nation.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  326. Ashton

    I think Ron Paul hasn't been getting the love he deserves because they're aren't enough individual thinkers out there. When you just go-with-the-flow for a long period of time, it's hard for anyone to even consider change. What people don't realize is that this guy brings all types of people together! Who wouldn't want someone like that running our country?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  327. Clayton


    It's simple. We haven't figured out how to use our "spam bots" in the "real" polls just yet. Trust me, the Ron Paul Grassroots movement (and American People) will know how to do it in 17 days. Take my word on it.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  328. John

    uh...umm..hmm..could they be it fixed? Who are they asking? what are they asking? How is it being asked. It could also have to do with the apparent lack of questioning during debates. The Medias/political dismissive attitude or the lack of print coverage.
    just a couple of ideas.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  329. Jama

    The polls are notoriously unreliable...didn't Kerry win the exit polls in '04?

    The media plays a big part in deciding who the "frontrunner" is going to be. Name recognition plays a big part and the candidates the media decides to focus on are the candidates that people recognize...sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy from our illustrious news writers.

    However, I have to wonder if people who say they're going to vote for a particular candidate in a poll are really going to put forth the effort to go out and vote for that candidate if they won't even put forth the effort to write a check (or enter a credit card number, as it were). Mike Huckabee is "surging" in the polls, but has raised a measly $1 million this quarter. That's not evidence of passion or commitment from those who say they support him. You can bet your life that those of us who are a part of the Ron Paul REVOLUTION are going to be at the polls, come hell or high water, and that's what matters...not some CNN news poll.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  330. Brendan H.

    I will say I think the Paul campaign has stumbled a bit on advertising, and keeping on message. I have seen most of the campaign produced TV spots, and was frankly, unimpressed. His ads need to be kept simple and on message. I was first attracted to his campaign based on a simple message outlined on his site: That he never voted for an unbalanced budget, or to raise taxes. He also voted against the Patriot Act and the Iraq War. If he sticks to this simple message in his advertising, he will gain a lot more support.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  331. Justin

    First of all, I would like to thank you for taking note of Dr. Paul. The media recognition helps him out tremendously, yet lies at the heart of why he is not higher in the polls. Many news networks refuse to mention his name. The most media attention he has gotten so far took him raising 4 million and 6 million dollars in one day. The media only takes note when such an amazing event forces their "front-runner bias" attitude to turn their head in attention.

    In the debates, excluding the Des Moines Register, he is given an unfair amount of time to discuss his views. The YouTube debate ignored a drastic amount of videos directed at Dr. Paul, yet included one asking him if he would run under a 3rd party ticket. The media doesn't seem to want people to believe he is electable, or able to gain enough support to win the nomination.

    His views also are not popular with his party at this moment in time. The Republican Party has been overrun with neo-conservatives with goals much different than his own.

    These "money bombs" are showing just how much people are sick of the horrible leadership going on Washington. So many of these candidates should be ashamed of themselves. They should realize, if this was an earlier part of US history, they would be the ones thought of as "The Crazy Uncle" and "Dr. No."

    December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  332. Lona

    Answer to your question. It is obvious,, the polls are not honest!!! They pick a group of people who will vote the way they want them too. My suggestion to you Jack is this,, Ask for a poll of the American people on your show, that way you will see the truth!! Make sure you include all the candidates in the poll, and not just the ones the Media covers all the time!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  333. Dan

    Hi Jack

    Ron Paul is truly the peoples' President.
    He is speaking on all the issues that americans are concerned about. He speaks the truth....no spin.
    I believe corporate media are to scared of his anti-establishment stance, that the poll questions are skewed to only concentrate on the so called "Top Tier" candidates.


    December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  334. Nate

    The mainstream media creates a false reality that Ron Paul does not have a chance. They give him minimal coverage at best, and so the uninformed general public is not even aware of who he is. If Giuliani, Hillary, Obama, etc. broke the all time record for one day fundraising, you can bet that it would be major news across every network and every newspaper. Help us Jack......

    December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  335. Kyle Sanders

    Maybe what you should be asking is, 'Do these polls accurately reflect a modern American demographic?' The only people I know with land-line phones are over 50. And soon, corporate TV may be a thing of the past as internet sites like Youtube take over. Ron Paul dominates the internet, but apparently the lame stream media pretends it isn't happening.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  336. Fred

    Ron Paul stays behind in the polls for a few reasons, the most obvious being that most phone polls are based off 'likely republican voters', or people who voted republican in the previous primaries. For one, Dr. Paul has converted a lot of people from the democratic party and all sorts of third-parties. For another, there is a saying among many supporters that goes "Dr. Paul cured my apathy", and a good example of this is the man that organized the November fifth fundraiser - he has never even voted in an election before.

    Also important to note is that Dr. Paul has actually won quite a few straw polls, his website lists him ahead in quite a few of them ( http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/ ). There are also some supporters who have recorded telephone polls in which Dr. Pauls name was not an option, and selecting "Other" removed them from the call list.

    Lastly, I think he lags behind in polls due to lack of exposure. I think any potential voter could turn on any news channel, or pickup any newspaper, and hear a lot more about McCain, Romney, Huckabee, Clinton, and Obama, with more and longer articles. It seems as though for every 30 seconds Dr. Paul gets, these other candidates get about 20 minutes. This may be a bit of an exaggeration, but it is certainly how it seems from a casual viewpoint.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  337. Anthony Lilja


    Is this truly a question you need to ask? Most rational Americans understand why he is not mentioned more in the MSM and given his most proper due. The real question is how do we go about changing that unfortunate fact. Thank you for doing your part to bring about a positive change.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:20 pm |
  338. jreemy y.

    there are a few reasons why the polls aren't registering ron paul voters accurately:

    -a lot of ron paul supporters aren't registered with a particular party, and are of the pollsters radar.

    – the cell phone thing. ron paul attracts a younger crowd, which is harder to pin down with standard home phone calls.

    – the big reason: polls in general are usually biased and flawed. ron paul is NUMBER ONE in ONLINE POLLS, but not landline phone polls?? which one is correct? as homer simpson said:
    "facts are meaningless. you could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!"
    except instead of facts, he should be saying "MSM POLLING"

    im voting for ron paul, and nobody called me to ask who i was voting for.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:20 pm |
  339. Jason Blain

    Polling centers won't call your cell phone, they won't call you at work, and they certainly don't leave a message. That knocks a lot of people out of your data sample immediately. Most of us have things to do when these people are calling, and many of us no longer have landlines. So when someone polls at 6% you have to ask yourself, 6% of what and who exactly? Does 6% of whomever is sitting on their couch at 3:30 in the afternoon really matter in the vast scheme of the working class who will undoubtedly outnumber them at the day's end? I think not.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:21 pm |
  340. Eric Pangborn

    Great question Jack! Why don't you ask your wise and loyal followers to visit Dr. Paul's web site to find out why he should be higher!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:21 pm |
  341. Michael Sites


    That's an easy question to answer.

    When the pollsters call they give you six choices: 1 for Giuliani, 2 for McCain, 3 for Thompson, 4 for Romney, 5 for Other and 6 to be removed. When you press 5 to support Ron Paul, the message states "Thank You! We will take you name off the list and not poll you again!"

    Fremont, CA

    December 17, 2007 at 4:21 pm |
  342. Leonard L. Radline

    Dear Mr. Cafferty: People in this country don't understand we are at war with the Washington Establishment. Too many people are locked into a Republican or Democratic mindset. Ron Paul isn't getting the coverage he truly deserves. A third party candidate in this country is at a huge disadvantage of qualifiying for access to be put on a ballot. The chips are stacked against any 3rd party candidate and that is why he probably won't run as an independent. People need to wake up and realize if we vote for one of those other nimconpoops we will wind up with the same old status quo. Wake up America, Ron Paul has the answers and we need to embrace his candidacy. Anything less we will wind up with MORE GOVERNMENT, MORE TAXES. iF YOU VOTE FOR A LESSER OF TWO EVILS YOU STILL WIND UP WITH EVIL. Len Radline, Kane Pa

    December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  343. Ronin Reed

    Ron Paul stands against everything that the Council on Foreign Relations, the New World Order, big business and the globalist agenda try and shove down the throat of the America people. The polls are rigged and misleading and twisted to push whomever these fascist organizations want to be in the "front-runner". The rest of the candidates are shills and are not even real options. The major news networks should be ashamed of themselves. Thank you Jack for not backing down and giving Ron Paul the coverage he deserves.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  344. Kamel

    Dr. Ron Paul's stand in the polls is a true reflection of the nature of America in today's world. We choose our leaders for the wrong reasons. We went to war with Iraq even though we had concrete evidence they had no WMD. We kept pushing for confrontation with Iran even when the president knew all his rhetorics were based on no evidence. If you want to be president in America, just be sensational and leave the rest to the media. I think the media is doing a terrible job at selling Dr. Paul's message and that is why he is running low in the polls. I would not be surprised if our next president is Hillary, Rudy or Mr. Hussein Obama. If you want to know how terrible our judgment is as voters, just think about the current occupant of the White House.

    Woodbridge, VA

    December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  345. Phil

    Dr. Paul is not higher in the polls for a couple of reasons.
    1. The polling orgs need to change their paradigm to address the realities of today's information sources. The old media is exactly that: old.
    2. Major polls are contingent upon name recognition as provided by the very same sources of news which are covering up Dr. Paul's success.
    3. Corporate media, bankers, and especially neoconservatives will not give up their power and comfort back to the people without a fight. They see Dr. Paul as the enemy but that is where they miss it.

    It is not the man, it is the message. Liberty, freedom and limited government is what both left and neocon right are fighting against. Wake up America. It boils down to this: individual sovereignty or the State. You choose. As you have put it Mr. Cafferty, America want a new way.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  346. Lorenz

    Take a look at the people who run this country. We have sheep fo voters. There is more loyalty for party rather than to country, and it certainly shows with the disgruntled congress. You have people voting for Hillary because she is simply a woman, you have people voting for Obama because he is black, and you have people voting for Guliani because he "ran New York City." What it comes down to is this; People are not educated, they choose not to learn, and they isolate themselves from reality. It's time to wake up America.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  347. Josh

    Simple, not all good salesmen are capable of being good managers.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  348. suzanne shatto

    i think many of these comments are just flawed theories about polling. perhaps you could ask one of the pollsters to come and be on your show to explain how they do polling. might be of general interest.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  349. Sam

    Although I'm an Afghan immigrant and know that Ron Paul will probably pull the troops out of Afghanistan I'm still sending him money and he will get my vote. I'm an American and to me America comes first. It's a decision that occupies my mind often but it's the right choice. Thanks Jack for talking about Dr. Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  350. Vote RonPaul

    There is an incredible disparity between polling percentages for Ron Paul. The disparity is very striking because Dr. Paul either wins a poll ( ~30%) or comes in dead last (~2%); and there's almost never a placement in the middle. Therefore, one certain conclusion which can be inferred from this anomaly is that there is much more than the claimed 5% margin of error in main stream media polling.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:23 pm |
  351. Merry Milton

    First of all, thank you so much for recognizing Dr. Paul. He has never received the amount of media he deserves.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:24 pm |
  352. Renee McCrady

    I am one of these 'spamming, revenge of the nerds' Ron Paul supporters. I've never been callled or solicited to take a poll. I also voted democrat in every past election. Maybe that has something to do with it? Maybe the polling techniques are outdated?

    Maybe the media has no idea what is truly going on in America right now?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:24 pm |
  353. Pete , Yuma, AZ

    Hi Jack ,

    This is my first time I have written a letter to you and by the way thank you for taking this moment to speak about Dr. Paul. I am almost 50 Yrs old and I read some of the posted commentaries stating that the only ones that are interested in voting for Dr. Paul are the youth. I am glad ,but also, I am glad that I can voice my opinion about the matter because I still feel like 18.. lol. I believe that Ron Paul has a great chance of winning this coming presidetial election with or without the media's help because We Americans are not so naive about the politics that is in our nation today. The average American is well informed , it's a matter of will to vote. Again , Thank you!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:24 pm |
  354. Chuck Cavanaugh

    An awful lot of people have their hand in the taxpayers pocket and for them to vote for somebody who wants to drastically reduce government spending might seem to go against their self-interest. They must know the U.S. economy is the sinking Titanic but as long as the tilting economic behemoth can keep the lights on they don't want to venture far from what's familiar.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  355. J. Horton

    Do the polls call VoIP telephones or just traditional analog landlines? I, like many other Ron Paul supporters, only use a digital telephone line provided by Time Warner; many others only use cell phones.

    I have never received a polling call.

    Could it be that the means of gathering poll data have not yet caught up to the technological realities of the U.S. today?

    Perhaps the individuals that are being polled are senior citizens, one of the few groups still primarily reliant on landline based telephony, who have not heard of Dr. Paul due to your own network's, and the rest of the old world MSM's, reluctance to provide (positive) coverage of the man?

    Nah, it couldn't be anything like that. If you dinosaurs don't wisen up to the changing political landscape afforded by the internet then you are destined for extinction.

    We won't miss you either.


    December 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  356. Casey

    Many polls simply exclude his name.

    If there were a study done on how many polls excluded Ron Paul, you would notice that the number is great.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  357. Jacob Martin

    There is an incredible disparity between polling percentages for Ron Paul. The disparity is very striking because Dr. Paul either wins a poll ( ~30%) or comes in dead last (~2%); and there’s almost never a placement in the middle. Therefore, one certain conclusion which can be inferred from this anomaly is that there is much more than the claimed 5% margin of error in main stream media polling.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  358. Ryan

    The Ron Paul Revolution is just that-a revolution, one that will unite both parties which will result in a hopeful future for America. Paul is not recieving the amount of media that the other hopeful candidates are getting because of his position on Iraq being very different than all of the other candidates. His has the most credible voting record, has recieved more donation support from active militray soldiers than any other candidate, has set a world record of over $6 million dollars in one day, and has one every post debate poll so far. Why does that Main Stream Media not include Ron Paul-who knows, but I know that my vote in the end will go to Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  359. Blue

    These polls are manipulated to get answers that are sought.

    Here is an example (proof):

    "Ron Paul Being Censored In Telephone Polls"



    December 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  360. AJ

    The reason is clear, it's because the media only gives attention to certain candidates in both parties and when those are the only candidiates they talk about it is easy to forget about the others!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  361. Larry Horn

    Ron Paul will win any Poll that is publicly open for anyone and everyone to participate in. Just look back at your competitor station (F X News) after the Republican debates. Dr. Paul won hands down with the closest candidate way behind him. Better yet Jack can you tell us Ron Paul supporters why the media couldn't quit talking about Mr. Huckabee the day after the F X News last Rep. debate when Ron Paul had double the voter call in response and at that time set his first fund raiser record.. Give Ron Paul the daily exposure that the media has given Huckabee and see what happens.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  362. Connor Heep

    2008 will mark the year when polls become irrelevant.
    The mainstream media on television treat Ron Paul's support as if it is some mystic force. Why are you all so bewildered that he makes $6 million in 24 hours? We are real people who have to resort to the online medium because the mainstream media continues to marginalize Ron Paul. When the candidate who most resembles the ideals of the founding fathers doesn't receive the attention and respect he deserves, you have to ask yourself, "Why kind of America are we living in?"

    December 17, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  363. Chris

    Having read many of these posts, the resounding answer here is that the media isn't giving Ron Paul a fair shake.

    On the contrary, I think the media is giving him a great shake! Look, those on top of the polls are the ones who are going to get the coverage. Rudy, McCain, Mitt, and Huckabee (now) are getting the coverage. On the Democratic side, this argument could be made by Richardson, Kucinich, or anyone other than Clinton/Obama/Edwards.

    The fact that Ron Paul gets ANY coverage is more than he should expect at this point. He is proving to be a fundraising force, but he'll never win. Where I am, you have to be Republican to vote in the Republican primary; someone this independent doesn't stand a chance. Not only is the media giving him some free airtime, but they also hit the nail on the head when it comes to his chances.

    Call it pandering to the party if you like. I call it winning. In the end, all of the hoopla and signs and YouTube videos do nothing if the candidate doesn't take occupancy in the White House in 2009.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  364. Andrew Gaiziunas

    There is a lack of transparency of the polling process; how are the participants selected, and how are they polled? Without transparency in this process, I do not believe any of the Ron Paul supporters will be dissuaded by any poll numbers, as there is an abundance of straw poll results showing him with a clear lead. The only thing that will convince (or support) Paul-ites will be the numbers when the real polls open and people start voting.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  365. DigitalBob in Michigan

    Most polls sample between 400 and 2,000 people. Many polled are people who have the numbers listed in a phone book and have old-fashioned land lines. I have neither. Many polled are of those who voted Republican in 2004. I didn't. Bush ran unopposed and Kerry was a disappointment. It was like getting two brands of vanilla ice cream.

    The challenge for the Ron Paul campaign is to get more broadcast media air time. The moneybomb and blimp are stunts to get the message out, since Dr. Paul cannot compete with Hillary's Laugh or Giuliani's picture on every 9/11 documentary. There is an America outside of New York.

    Even so, his ideas are getting out. The Internet has been liberating.

    The electorate are tired of the Iraq War. We believe government is the source of problems and not the solution. We're tired of being lied to. We want our money back in our own pockets, not in those who get sole-source emergency war funding. Same-old-same-old isn't going to get it anymore. The other guys negotiate our treasure and constitution down the toilet.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  366. Andrew Smith


    Thank you for your fair and unbiased coverage of the Ron Paul campaign. If the rest of the media covered ALL the candidates fairly, they would see the true breadth of support for the Ron Paul campaign. The fact that the polls, the TV stations, the radio, the reporters, and the rest of the mainstream sources don't report on more than half of the field with any regularity is very telling. It seems as though they are trying to tell us that they cover the candidates the people want, the top poll-getters. Huckabee's campaign was nearly broke, yet he started to get coverage because his poll numbers went up. After the initial coverage, his poll numbers are going even higher. Yet, Fred Thompson jumped into the race after tons of coverage not even being a candidate, and his numbers are sinking. So, it can't be just the polls. Ron Paul has now outraised every other candidate this quarter, yet he's only getting coverage for this one issue. Why? Isn't this phenomenal fund-raising a clear sign that the people do want more Ron Paul? So why isn't there more fairness in the media? It can only be that the media has already chosen our candidates for us and they're feeding us the ones they believe are winners. When we allow mass disinformation like this, we allow our votes to be usurped. Thank heavens there are people out there like you who pay attention to these things and at least acknowledge the great disaparity between what the media would like us to believe, what we believe... the truth.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  367. Christian

    Thank you for finally starting to give this amazing man some credit. He should be #1 in the polls, and in your conversations, but the bias media is trying to keep him down, that is why, one main reason there is so much, an overwhelming support for him by donations and people online. People want him. He is the only one out there that speaks what our founding fathers of America wanted for America. We can all learn a lesson or two from Dr. Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  368. Christopher Esparsen

    All to say is that Ron Paul has that extra something that this election is missing. The 6-million dollar man brings a new course of direction for this country. His ideas may not sit well with all Americans, but its the idea of change that may have led to his recently acquired fortune. Let's hope we don't have to live through another Clinton presidency.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  369. Pat

    Most news reporters mention Ron Paul only as a foot note. Why don't we see more discussions regarding the topics he raises. All this other fluff that the other candidates are talking to will not save this country from becoming a 3rd world country. Its up to the media to speak to the issues that this country are really up against and to ask these questions of the candidates. Thank God for you and Lou for asking tough questions. Think you will find that Ron is about the only candidate that has common sense answers to your questions.

    I have voted Democrate for almost 40 years but plan on voting for Ron because he is the only candidate currently running that can be trusted. Will vote for him regardless of who is on the ballot. This is also the first time I have sent out emails to all my friends to asking them to educate themselves on the issues and Ron. We have got to get back to the constitution.

    I also understand why the election collage was created, how it defeats a third party candidate and how it prevents us from having a democratic election. Ron Paul spoke to this in a recent interview. Have you?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  370. Dina Califano

    Dr. Paul can raise 6 million in one day because there are legions of supporters out there like me who want to see him in the office of President. Who are we? We are the Americans who sit behind our computers and complete online polls, and make online donations. We are the Internet. Whenever there is a poll that asks REAL PEOPLE like us who we want to vote for, Ron Paul wins overwhelmingly. So why does he not place higher in the "POLLS"? – Do you mean the so called OFFICIAL POLLS that don't even include HIS NAME as a CHOICE? If you were to poll your viewers right now in the Situation Room, you would see why Dr. Paul doesn't place higher in those OTHER POLLS.

    I'll also ask you this – Why is it that even when Dr. Paul has placed higher in those so called OFFICIAL polls, that his percent is never displayed? He has placed higher than McCain, but who do we see as the top five over and over? Rudy, Mitt, Mike, Fred and John. These are the reasons why Dr. Paul can raise 6 million dollars in one day, and doesn't place higher in the polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  371. Aaron Kreke

    Ron Paul supporters have taken the internet by storm because the mainstream media is not speaking for the people anymore, enstead they are trying to convince the people of what to speak. They do this by contacting 2004 GOP voters on their landlines. He has won every straw poll, won every debate, raised more money in a 24 hour period than any other canidate in HISTORY and still, not more than a 30 second spot on any mainstream media channel. Our voices are not being heard. What do we have to do?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  372. Ken Campbell, Jr.

    ron paul raises more than $6 million in one day from a fundraiser not initiated by his campaign but by independent grassroots enthusiasts. the average donation was only $50. nearly 25,000 first time donors.

    and yet the media still portrays ron paul as an internet phenomenon with no chance of winning. interesting, the media also portrayed jfk as a television phenomenon with no chance of winning.

    obviously there's something flawed in the polls. not all of them tho, the polls where he's won in a landslide have just been dismissed.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  373. don Carter

    It's interesting to me how the polling system used to determine a candidate's standing is more about national name recognition, media preferential treatment and favoritism as well as factors other than the legitimate on the ground voter support that person may have. As the saying goes, money talks and b.s. walks so seems to me some folks below the so called candidate polling radar are talking with their money that they believe in what Ron Paul has to say.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  374. roger faulk

    I truely believe washinton is run by lobbiest and special interist groups, thay are not going to want Ron Paul as president.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  375. Merry Milton

    Secondly, Ron Paul is not high on the polls for a Republican Nominee because alot of Independents cannot or will not vote in a Republican Primary depending on their states.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  376. Bryan

    Polls can be manipulated and often times are to keep the sheeple in check.
    The problem with Ron Paul's base is that we are aware of the manipulation
    and do not allow this to alter what we know to be true, that Dr. Paul is the only truly respectable and honest politician in modern times, and his position as "Champion of the Constitution" is a well-earned and honorable title. All truly patriotic Americans understand that we must get back to the constitution or suffer the end of our country at the hands of any of the other candidates who poise as our saviors while stabbing us in the back while taking the dole from big business. Nobody owns Ron Paul accept the people of the United States of America! God Bless this man and all who vote for him, and God save our country and way of life.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  377. Sean Lee

    The discord between Ron Paul's poll numbers and fund raising is due to the methodology of the polling. Paul relies on young people from mostly urban or suburban regions for his base of support. These people are very likely to not have any hard-line phones; however, major polls do not call cell phones. Furthermore, the polls give greater weight or only include the responses from "likely voters." Determining who is a "likely voter" is largely determined by past voting record. The last Republican primary was for the 2000 election, so no one under 25 has had a chance to vote in a Republican primary and therefore would be more likely to be classified as a "unlikely voter." Lastly, Paul's message is quite different than his opponents. It is highly conceivable that Paul supporters would have poor voting records because they have had little in common with candidates in past elections.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  378. Josh

    I think that Ron Paul has such a low poll rating because the American people are ignorant of the IMPORTANT issues that he is championing. NO ONE in the mainstream media talks about how we're getting screwed by our greedy government officials who continue to support PARASITIC organizations like the Federal Reserve. I would love to see a lineup of congressman asked if they had a clue why we caved in to the international bankers in 1913 by giving them ALL that this nation had worked soo hard for. Why our government has allowed them to fleece the american people with such CRIMINAL avenues of interest the FRACTIONAL RESERVE system allows. Appropriations Bills, I'd like to take a poll to see if america knows what they are! Its easy not to tax the people in your administration if your allowed to put the burden of these bills on the FUTURE OF AMERICA, IF THERE IS ONE!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  379. Chris Barrows

    It comes down to pride.

    The MSM already had their candidates, gameplans and questions picked out months ago.

    Unfortunately, the game hasn't gone as they had planned because the American people have upset the applecart.

    Since they can't find an elegant way to swallow thie pride and say "Oops! Our bad! We had it wrong!", they're just ignoring the fine doctor and polling the same way they always have.

    But the political game and the rest of the world has changed in the last four years.

    After Iowa and New Hampshire, I don't think there will be an informed citizen alive who won't be able to recall hearing the name "Ron Paul"!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  380. Bob Cornero

    Dear Mr. Cafferty,

    There are many reasons and evidently many people from different walks of life who absolutely love Ron Paul. The man is the embodiment of everything we need right now in the White House. He beckons us back to a time when people were independent and free and yet simultaneously deriving their strength from their relationships and communities. A nation is only as good as it's people and perhaps he is reminding us all of that we can be good Americans; that we don't have to live in constant fear, that we can be intelligent and resourceful and successful, that we can return the US to its former status of being a City on a Hill for liberty and freedom.

    It would seem there is a great disparity between the traditional polls and what's happening on the Internet. The Internet is without a doubt the greatest technology we have today, empowering people all over the world. For Ron Paul, it has brought his supporters together on public forums, news sites, and in areas where open dialog can once again take place in America.

    Perhaps the polling methods of the past are not so good anymore. If that were the case, the polls surely would have seen all this coming. As it stands, they have proven to be poor indicators of anything, leading many to believe they are now entirely irrelevant. Imagine, the candidate who polls the lowest receives the most money and has the most ardent supporters! Anyone with common sense can see the disparity! These very same polls are subject to the whims and interpretations of their creators, who are seemingly never without bias. Perhaps it is time we acknowledge this phenomenon for what it is. Perhaps we should acknowledge what the most powerful technology of our time has shown us. Perhaps it is time to see that this man, Ron Paul, is indeed a top tier candidate, if not the GOP frontrunner!

    And it's all happening because of the power of ideas!

    Thank you

    December 17, 2007 at 4:29 pm |
  381. Randy Turner

    Professional pollsters have been manipulating the questions asked in the so-called national polls with Americans being easily manipulated by the handful of news media outlets on television quoting these polls.

    Also, there has been no mention on television news of Dr. Ron Paul’s stance, winning a national blind poll done by Zogby. 32.8 percent chose the description matching those of Dr. Paul, which out ranked the other candidate positions.

    Question answered.

    Randy Turner
    Lacey, WA

    December 17, 2007 at 4:29 pm |
  382. Bill Ogden

    Ron Paul is not part of the "Clique".
    He is not receiving donations from large corporations thus he doesn't owe anyone special favors. This is partly why he is not mentioned as much in the polls.

    He is doing things the right way instead of using political steroids.

    Ron Paul is a "Statesman"...the others are typical Opportunists/Politicians.

    Thanks Jack for mentioning Ron Paul on your show.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:30 pm |
  383. Fred

    pretty hard to gain support if you aren't a part of the trilateral commission, CFR, Bildeberg, or call for an immediate pull-out in Iraq

    December 17, 2007 at 4:30 pm |
  384. Tom

    The polls and media coverage is specially tailored to the elite mainstream candidates that are characterized more as movie actors, not politicians. They have become out of touch with the daily needs of Americans. We, as a nation, have become shallow at the surface and Dr. Paul's message reaches to the heart of the sincere public. However, it is fighting upstream against the mainstream.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:30 pm |
  385. Cat Neal

    Ron Paul is a Libertarian who espouses the Constitution as the basis for defining the role of government, thereby making him the only true candidate for President. His supporters, on the other hand, are usually one-issue voters who are willing to monetarily support any candidate who promotes the elimination of government entitlement programs and the legalization of drugs. Drew carey, the comedian, once called Libertarans "Republicans on drugs". The Second Admendment is also a particular favorite, even at the expense of the others. Our local Ron Paul Revolution organizer was, a few years back, dragging his small son to anti-abortion protests, that being his "one-issue." Ron Paul has the right idea but his supporters, though willing to put their money where their mouths are, do not get the big picture and come across as wackos.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:31 pm |
  386. M. Kirston

    Who is getting polled? I am a registered democrat but I am switching to republican so that I can vote for Ron Paul in the primaries. I have never been asked or polled on my opinion. There is an underground effort of the people happening right now which is evident in the amount of donations. The news largely ignores this effort and continues to call Dr. Paul a long shot. What the MSM fails to understand is that this is a real movement and I believe the polls are flawed. If there was fair reporting, the success that Ron Paul will have in the primaries would not be called a "surprise" or an "upset".

    December 17, 2007 at 4:31 pm |
  387. Cody


    Iraq is the issue that keeps Paul down in the national telephone polls.

    The likely voters targeted by the phone polls are prejudiced against Paul. Those likely voters have allowed their fear of terrorism to be stoked, and allowed themselves to be manipulated into unquestioning support of a foolish foreign entanglement in Iraq. Paul's supporters are doing our best to wake up the rest of the voters. There are real solutions to minimizing the impact of violent terrorists, real solutions that would preserve civil liberty and be much more effective than the draconian Patriot Act and the McCarthy-esque Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.

    Cody R. Peeples,
    Raleigh, NC

    December 17, 2007 at 4:31 pm |
  388. Ramsey Turner

    What's your record for number of answers Jack?

    Ron Paul doesn't poll higher because:

    1.) Many people now only use cell phones (I am one of them). As you know, pollsters only call landlines.

    2.) The mass media is incredibley biased against him. Every mention of how well he's doing is followed by a "but, he's a second tier candidate" (who decides that by the way?), or "he's not going to win", etc.

    3.) Many polls don't have him as an option (since someone decided he's a second tier candidate). Or, he's in the "other" option.

    4.) The amount of talking time in the debates is so obviously not "fair and balanced", it's just ridiculous. Romney, Guiliani, Thompson, etc get so much more air time the average un-plugged person can't help but notice.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:31 pm |
  389. Javier

    Ron Paul's poll numbers are low, because those polls are deliberately trying to keep him down. The same thing is going on with the Media's coverage of Ron Paul, you are one of the few that even mentions Ron Paul and the positive activity happenning in his campaign, why is that? Just another example of a deliberate attempt to keep Ron Paul down. Ron Paul wins every post debate online/text poll, how can that be?
    This freedom movement IS GROWING like wildfire and the Media is not covering the real story. We have awakened and many more are starting to see the real truth; this country needs a cleansing and a leader that will take us back to the rule of LAW, to the CONSTITUTION. That man is RON PAUL!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:31 pm |
  390. Timothy Heilshorn

    A better question might be, why is Ron Paul ahead in every other poll except the ones in the main stream media? The amount of money that has been donated to Ron Paul’s campaign should eliminate the notion that there are only a few spamming the online and text polls. The average donation yesterday was only 50 dollars.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:32 pm |
  391. Amy Wolfenberger

    It is not very hard to realize why Ron Paul's fundraisers aren't translating into votes. Ron Paul basically wants us to return to the Gilded Age so of course he isn't going to get that many votes. Ron Paul can raise a lot of money because his followers are fanatical and willing to bankrupt themselves for a lost cause. He cannot, however, raise a lot of votes because it is hard to find that many people who were as bad history students as he apparently was.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  392. Josh


    Our American people are being blinded by false perceptions and have forgotten much of what they learned in government class in school! So many are willing to compromise on core principals of our nation. This is a primary reason for the youth being so involved in the Ron Paul campaign ... they have not been jaded yet!

    Many people forget that this country is a Constitutional Republic not a direct Democracy. A true Democracy is tyranny by majority. The founding fathers understood this and setup our Constitution to provide a Republic where the rights of the individual are protected from the will of the majority.

    True "American Patriotism" as our founding fathers saw it, is the resistance of Government tyranny when it infringes on the rights of the individual. Freedom and personal liberty belong to each and every human being regardless of the existence of a government. The founding fathers revolted against King George and the British government by declaring these concepts, indeed risking their lives in the process. Those same men are now some of our greatest heros in history.

    Today, men and women who stand for these same ideals are commonly ridiculed. Great men such as Ron Paul who stand firm on concepts that matter to our personal rights, freedom and liberty ... as well as the Declaration of Independence and Constitution are often ignored. Too often all of us are blinded by false perceptions.

    Republicans and Democrats are, for the most part, busy wrapped up in using the government to pursue and execute their personal agendas. This concept is wrong. The role of government is not supposed to be social engineering our country the way the majority feels they think it should run. That logic results in oppression of individual liberty that is no different than the fascists we have fought over the years and that we continue to fight today in the Middle East. Instead, the role of Government is supposed to be protecting the rights and liberty of the citizens. Government is indeed needed as designed in a Republic to protect the liberty of each individual from every other person.

    We need our country back ... Jack, we need Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  393. Wes Duerr

    Mis spellings above please read this one. LOL

    The reaseon why Ron Paul is low in the polls is the survey research. Any time I have been called about a poll it is always scewed towards republican or democrate. Third parties are over looked because we are in the mind set of a plutocracy. Most people think we go to chocies and are content like sheep. If we the people would listen to new ideas and not glance maybe “We The People” would have a better government.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  394. Jeffrey Shakoor

    The polls only measure likely Republican voters. Anyone who spends time with Ron Paul supporters understands they are anything but. They're people that have given up on the party and politics all together, Democrats (like me) and Independents who thought our voices couldn't be heard and represented any longer. Now we have a candidate who can speak for us, but it seems no matter how loud we scream, you guys don't want to hear it. Instead why not ask the question, "If the guy who's supporting freedom, liberty, and the Constitution is the crazy one, what has America become?"

    December 17, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  395. atlabs

    This just goes to show how out of touch the media is with reality. Wake up!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  396. Karen

    I've considered myself a Democrat all my life. Now I find myself planning to vote in a Republican primary and even donating to the Ron Paul cause twice. And I'm probably not the only one 😉
    Dr. Paul cures apathy!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  397. Katie Tantrum

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because he is either discredited in every poll he does win, or it is due to the fact that not many Americans have heard his message.
    Ron Paul has been treated so unfairly in every single debate. Especially the YouTube/CNN debate.
    He is NOT given the same amount of air time or media coverage as all of the other candidates.
    It's an outrage and people are trying to show the public, that while Ron Paul isnt on tv, making the polls, he IS making a huge impact on MANY of us – but our voices and Ron's voice is refused to be heard.
    When election time comes, they will be surprised.
    As a passionate Ron Paul supporter, I'm very angry with the media and how they've continuously discredited Ron Paul or flat out insulted him.
    Everyone knows that all of the other candidates are bought by big whig contributors. Ron Paul supporters are average individuals who find his message truthful. He is a person that we, as his supporters, feel we can trust. Every other candidate is an empty suit that has big corporations supporting them.
    The world is afraid of people as bold as Ron Paul. They would rather hush him and show him in a bad light, then show him in the way that HE DESERVES. A WAY THAT AMERICANS DESERVE! Everyone should have the right to hear his message, instead, I'm stuck hearing about Britney Spears or another celebrity. The media is only concerned with distributing information that THEY want you to know, not what the PEOPLE want to know. It's totally unfair and I hope to see this change. Ron Paul is a great candidate and I hope you consider him. If you listen to the voice beyond the television, you will see that there is a lot of support at there and one day, if they let us, it will show up in the polls!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  398. Yannis Piotoyannakis

    Ron Paul is like an iceberg. What is visible above the surface is a lot smaller in relation to what is below the waters below the field of vision.
    Most of us who support him do not like to "play" poll games and that may explain why he is not so big on the polls.
    We are moved by substance and straight talk and he is the only one that offers both.
    We, Americans, had all the power and wealth and we gave it away while loosing most of our rights and effectivness. Our governments sold us to the highest bitter.
    Under Ron Paul the government will assume it's correct role which is to be a servant of the people and not an entity that can get into your pocket without permission, get whatever they want out of it and do whatever they want with it.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  399. Justin Fowler

    I have to wonder who "they" are polling? If you polled one hundred Red Sox fans about which baseball team they favored, you probably wouldn't hear much about the Yankees. I believe these polls tend to cater to middle-aged, upper-middle-class, newspaper readers. Dr. Paul's internet presence is a realistic indicator of his impact on a previously overlooked (and previously non-voting) constituency: the average, tax-paying American.

    Justin Fowler
    Minneapolis, MN

    December 17, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  400. Kenneth Harwood

    RP is polling in single digits because the
    figure is probably ballpark. But polls are
    imprecise. They do not reflect RP's
    continuously growing popularity.
    No idea wins mindshare overnight.
    Sooner or later RP is going to reach
    breakout, and then his numbers are
    going to shoot up and STAY there.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  401. Eric

    The mainstream media basically ignores Dr. Paul. It seems like the media is picking the candidates for us. The establishment of corporate and banking elitist's are scared to death of Dr. Paul because he speaks the truth and has the potential to ignite the revolutionary spirit inside all of us, also Dr. Paul is not "owned" by the elitist's like the rest of our so-called "choices" of candidates on both sides. The alarm clock is set America will you wake up

    December 17, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  402. Jeff Workman

    Most polls are rigged Jack and either they don't mention his name or refer to him as "None of the Above".

    Most of us are NOT stupid no matter how much the media tries to push these biased poll results in our faces.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  403. Clint Fuller

    Well Jack

    Considering the issues Ron Paul is talking about (ending the war,ending the income tax and IRS and abolishing the Fed, and obeying the Constitution ). I would venture to say there are some BIG money people with a vested interest to – you might- stack the deck against Ron Paul and the American people.

    What I'm trying to say is, for the most part, "The media lies and the polls cheat".

    December 17, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  404. Karl

    Make us proud Jack! You can be a leader you just have to do the right thing!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  405. Artus Register

    Polls frequently ignore Dr. Paul's campaign. If ten polls are averaged and eight of them exclude Ron Paul, he is going to poll quite low. Also, a great many of Dr. Paul's supporters are Democrats, Independents, Libertarians, Greens, and apathetic Republicans who had given up on the political process. Given the abysmally low voter turn out, especially for the primaries, how can the media ignore the enormous majority who until recently would have been called UNlikely voters.
    Also, many important states have open primaries, so polling only "likely Republican voters" further ignores likely Paul voters.
    There is also the fact that a great many would-be Paul voters are unfamiliar with his campaign, because despite the fact that the people are clamoring for change (see the approval ratings for both the Republican President and the Democratic congress), the media continually ignores the ONLY candidate preaching change. If the rockstar-like popularity of a conservative 72-year old congressman from Texas isn't news, how can networks spend a second on the bankrupt campaigns of Huckabee, or McCain; how can they cover the neocon clones who only promise business as usual, or the Democrats who drone on about all the wonderful social programs we can't afford?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:36 pm |
  406. Tim

    Here is a better question – Which is more reliable...Words or Actions? Donations are actions. Polls are simply words. Ron Paul supporters speak with their wallets, since the media chooses to ignore their message.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:36 pm |
  407. Thomas Connolly

    Hopefully he is polling so low because of the bias, untended and intended, that exists in modern day polling. Ron Paul supporters are widespread and diverse, we can only hope his true level of support will be reflected on primary day.

    Thanks for your coverage Jack. If there was more of it from your colleagues those national polls would be more reflective of true democracy, not bias media selection.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:36 pm |
  408. Nate

    The proof is already out there on how Dr. Paul is ignored on many of these polls as falling under the "other" category. Where is all of the coverage on how many straw polls this man has won, including the New York State Republican Straw Poll in the hometown of the so called "front runner"? I think we are seeing a new era, where not only the GOP, but the media alike are dead afraid of this man because of his pure record and honest message. Its not in their best interest to have a candidate representing your party that you cannot control.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:36 pm |
  409. alex

    Why do we have the Patriot Act? Why do we have a national offense instead of a national defense? Apathy + Constitutional abuse = a political environment that no true libertarian could survive.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  410. Robert

    Important facts.
    He has never voted to raise taxes.
    He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
    He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
    He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
    He has never taken a government-paid junket.
    He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
    He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
    He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
    He voted against the Patriot Act.
    He voted against the Iraq war.

    CHECK THIS OUT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yuzMYIXhTE

    December 17, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  411. David Netes

    The reason he hasn't been doing well in the polls is because the media doesn't give him fair coverage. We love Ron Paul because he has morals. I'm an atheist he's a christian but he keeps his faith at home where it belongs and doesn't wave his christian flag the way the Huckster does while buying his wife clothes and remodeling his house with campaign money. He doesn't believe his religion is what should put him in the white house. We love Ron Paul because he knows about foreign policy and understands the changes that are needed, he doesn't pound the war drums like Rudy who probably whose companies do buisness with our enemies. We love Ron Paul because he understands buisness and responsibility, unlike Mitt who was succeful in buisness only by firing Americans and sending their jobs overseas. Ron Paul understands the country is being ruined by the Federal Reserve and opposes it, thats why we love him. He's done his homework and knows where this country needs to go and we haven't had that since the killed Kennedy.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  412. Ileen

    It appears to me that the pollsters are not contacting a lot of folks who are in the modern tech world – people who have mobile or internet phones instead of land line phones, but do lots of text-messaging, emailing, etc.
    Fremont CA

    December 17, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  413. sam

    Because most polls are created with an intent behind the outcome. Pollsters can't always include all the available candidates. If the pollsters decide Paul has a no real shot ( Like expressed by many interviewing journalist), why would they list him? If not listed what kind of shot would any candidate have. The polls tell a portions of the truth, but not the whole truth and nothing but the truth. It's simply unrealistic to relay on polls to pick an elections outcome. The people of the united states are to dynamic for that.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  414. Ruth Filippone

    It sure is a stumper! Ron Paul has more grass roots support, more internet presence and hits, raises more money from a larger base than any other candidate. He wins most grass roots polls & most debates (and each person can vote only once, in spite of Sean Hannity's lame comment). It seems to me that the National Polls the mainstream media quote ad nauseum are not very accurate. One element in their inaccuracy might be that they poll Republicans who voted such in the past, and Ron Paul has mega support from Americans who were apathetic before they became Paulites, or who are Independents, or even Dems who have converted. This is truly a Revolution.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  415. Marc B

    Since Ron Paul's support is obvious, then obviously these polls are wrong. Look at unstructured measures, like straw polls, the money bomb, and internet traffic. The question isn't "why are Paul's poll numbers low?", it's "why is the media reporting low numbers for Paul despite knowing better?"

    And why isn't the media following Ron Paul's and (other candidates') comments on issues like the NAU, the IRS, etc? Follow http://www.ronpaul2008.com to part III of the zeitgeist.org documentary. It seems that Ron alone has the guts to face these issues - not the other candidates, and so far, not the media.

    But the voters are getting smarter, and using the internet (NOT the media) to investigate the issues and the candidates. Is CNN bold enough to publicize these issues that have captured the attention of the American public? It's obvious that your viewers are interested but have to seek that information elsewhere.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:38 pm |
  416. Kevin Hemp

    Jack that one is easy
    It's all politics,no smarty pants intended. Look, back in the '60s I was in the Kansas City, Mo. area. I got a real good look ( up close and personel) at how the political game was played. It's dirty, dirtier that hell. If one dosent dance to the right tune – well my good man – you just might find yourself out of a good job.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:38 pm |
  417. Fred M

    Polls? We dont need no stinking polls? We are going to shake the foundations of Washington DC come the primaries. And there aint a damm /g they can do about it You can take that to the bank Jack!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:38 pm |
  418. Susanna

    Ron Paul's low "polling numbers" can be atributed to two things- outdated polling methods and lack of media attention to alledged "second tier" candidates. Sad to say, but his campain has had to stoop to traditional methods (as in money) to draw attention. Sure enough- now you are talking about him!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:38 pm |
  419. Christopher Barker

    I believe that the mainstream media, collectively, is engaged in a deliberate attempt to marginalize the candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul. From limiting his questions in televised debates, to doctoring online poll results (as has been documented), to having the most offensive of all "news" personalities Glenn Beck insinuate that Ron Paul supporters are terrorists, I believe that the powerful, elite ruling class of this country is indeed threatened by Dr. Paul's popularity, and so are taking steps to marginalize him in this race. But his supporters, his MANY supporters are, and will remain, undeterred.

    Thank you for covering this topic... I hope it will be the beginning of more fair coverage going forward.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:38 pm |
  420. Jon Richards, Houston, TX


    I'm 47 years old and probably the poster boy for the Republican Party poster given my demograhpic profile. There are so many things that I could look for in a candidate that would protect or subsidize my little microcosm. I work in the medical field and I make a comfortable living. I am pro-choice to the max as is my wife, a registered nurse. We are both voting for Ron Paul. Why? Because sometimes voters are forced to prioritize the issues that concern them most and getting this country back on course has to be number one. We truly believe that our foreign policy will bankrupt this country if left to continue. I have nothing but the deepest sympathy for all the American families that have lost children, husbands, fathers, or uncles in Iraq. Those sacrifices will always be in our hearts but we need to bring them home. Recalling the troops will not marginalize those that have made the ultimate sacrifice, but will stand in testement as a symbol to the moment when the American people stood in one voice and said "Enough". We are taking back our country and handing the reins over to the one man who has demonstrated for decades that he is not in it for himself....he's in it to repair the damage done and to make this country what it once was...by the people, for the people.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:38 pm |
  421. Gus

    Because people like the status quo. Sure, the dollar is losing value, we are in a war we cannot win and those essential freedoms this country is based upon are slowly being gobbled up. But how is that affecting your everyday American right now? Our standard of living here in America is great compared to the rest of the world.

    The Ron Paul campaign has become a beacon for people disgruntled with the system and aware of the dangers the future presents for this country. They understand the reason this recession is breathing down or necks is the Federal Reserves butchery of the interest rates. They understand that the war we are in now is a perputuative cycle of destabilization in the Middle East, fueled by disgust for American Foriegn policy in the region and manifested in dictators and terror leaders like Osama Bin Laden.

    The people who comprehend the possibly dystopian future of not only America, but the world itself have really been left without a path to get thier views to a point of prominence. They are very passionate about how they feel, so much so as to spend say 4.2 million and 6.3 million dollars in consecutive months. But each vote only counts as one, you can spend the 4 years leading up the election reading literature on a candidate and grasping for all the more reasons to vote him but in the end your vote will matter just as much as somebody else who may not even know of more than 2 or 3 of the candidates.

    Unfortunately, the way we are headed, something horrible may lie on the horizon. And those who see it coming have united under the Ron Paul banner. But the majority likes the America it sees, so until theres a colossal shift in the way this countries collectively views the world Ron Paul and like-minded individuals will never poll well or have the say in policy they so dearly deserve.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:39 pm |
  422. Amy

    There is no one answer to why he's low in the polls, the following is my take:

    1. Not as much name recognition.
    2. Not as much time in the debates.
    3. His ideas are "scary" to some people.
    4. He has been made out to be a "kook" who can't win.
    5. The polls are often fixed.
    6. The media is biased toward big government, and they rarely think for themselves.
    7. There's a lot of brain-dead neocons (and liberals out there for that matter) who only vote for who they think can "win" or who the press tells them to. They don't research.

    That's the short list Mr. Cafferty. Thanks for asking the question.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:39 pm |
  423. Liberty

    It's too bad that you people in TV land are cowards. The American people are so sick of being patronizing. You people insult our intelligence. You would rather talk about Lindsey Lohan than Ron Paul. This is only the most important election in modern history or possibly ever. Why is Ron Paul not higher in the polls? Please ask me a tough question. He's low in the polls because although we preach democracy to other countries and force democracy on other people we crush democracy here in America. This country is not a democracy or a republic, it's a hypocritical state.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:40 pm |
  424. Randle Turner

    If the MEDIA treated him like a viable candidate he might get more respect but if he is treated like he is undeserving the respect he should have as a member of Congress and a candidate for the office of President of the United States of America he will be seen as less. Hello ! I think the man deserves much more & by the way give Joe Biden a break too !

    December 17, 2007 at 4:40 pm |
  425. Thomas

    First the media writes him off because he has no money. Now the media writes him off because he is low in the polls. Need I remind you that one month ago Mike Huckabee had no money AND was low in the polls? Need I also remind you that John Kerry was polling at 4% in Iowa when he came out with a victory?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm |
  426. Kent

    Why not higher in the Polls? Because the polls are inherently flawed as has been pointed out many times. Six million dollars in one day from real people without a corporate sponsor anywhere. Are you really that dense as to not understand what is going on?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm |
  427. Dennis

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because the American public realizes that for the most part, Ron Paul is a nut job. What kind of candidate seeks a position in the very level of government he thinks should be abolished? Ron Paul’s hard line Libertarian beliefs are quite similar to those of the silly Anarchists of the early 90’s. The movers and shakers behind Ron Paul’s on-line movement are just Gen X Anarchists who have traded their grunge look for a suit and tie.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm |
  428. Karen, Des Moines

    Ron Paul is not getting bigger numbers in the polls because people are aware of what happened to John Dean. Until people can vote online, this internet support will not translate into warm bodies at the Iowa caucus on a cold winter night, or even into primary votes in New Hampshire. Computer geeks have proven themselves to be unwillling to participate in the process in person so far. You do not get to click a mouse to get a President. If Ron Paul can motivate these supporters to actually show up in the flesh, that will be another thing entirely.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm |
  429. Juan Reynoso

    Ron Paul is not acknowledge by the media or the pools because Our corrupt politicians are in the pocket of the Bankers and the multinational corporations, they pass legislations to support the corrupt system is that simple. but we will take our country back they can not pass legislation to control or buy our votes. The choice is ours, to let them make slaves out of us, or to take our country back from the corrupt politicians, the Bankers and the greedy disloyal corporations.

    Juan Reynoso

    December 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm |
  430. David Reed, Texas

    He is continuously kept out of main stream media, I am finding people daily that have never heard of him because they haven't seen him on any major news channels, Jack Cafferty surely you are for a fair campaign? Help us Jack please! get it out that the MSM is blocking his campaign, let it be known, you know it is true and I implore you Mr. Cafferty to help us a good American.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm |
  431. Wade

    Maybe you can answer your own question by trying to answer this – why would ABC's 20/20 do a full on-camera interview with Dr. Paul, and then not air it – instead opting for 'on-line only, because that's where his support is.'

    Thanks for your coverage!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:42 pm |
  432. Mark

    Cafferty is the only reason I still watch CNN.

    An honest, down to Earth guy who doesn't take any crap. Always honest reporting. They need to give him his own hour.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:42 pm |
  433. Suanne Skidd

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing up this critical issue! Dr. Paul does not do well in the polls because he is being censored by the corporate-controlled mainstream media! The only time he is mentioned is when he raises millions of dollars in one day. Dr. Paul is the people's choice, not the choice of corporate America, which controls the media. Many times he is not even included in polls and he is marginalized in the debates. Ron Paul is the only candidate on either side who is committed to ending the wars and bringing the troops home from all over the world. As we all know, war is big business, but it is immoral to conduct a war so that certain corporations can make huge profits. The "War on Terror" is a lie and millions of us know it.

    Please be fair and stop censoring Ron Paul. He is the only candidate who would change the disastrous course our country is currently on. He is the only hope we have left. He is also the only Statesman in this race. The rest are just politicians.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:43 pm |
  434. Cristian

    What better poll than what Boston Tea Party did yesterday? A GOP candidate raised $6+ million and THAT is not the "story of the day"? Jack, it is a shame...I am not an american, but it is a shame...A few thousands americans gave money to Ron Paul in a single day, and we are asking about polls...You should ask how come that the mainstream media doesn't give him too much attention! Who you represent? Because it looks to me that Ron Paul represents american people...And media??...I don't know!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:43 pm |
  435. Cheryl

    Jack, I have a challenge for you:

    Try promoting Ron Paul as much as promoting the others, and I guarantee his poll numbers will rise accordingly. His poll numbers are largely due to the fact that the media chooses our candidates for us. From the very beginning of this campaign Ron Paul has seldom been mentioned and when he is, it is preferenced with, "he can't win", "longshot", or talk of a third party run. From the beginning, the media has never treated him as a serious candidate of equal importance. Do some research and compare the number of times Ron Paul has been favorably spoken of compared to the media choices of Giuliani, Romney, or their sudden choice of Huckabee. Even today with the news of Paul's 6 million dollar day, we are still hearing more about McCain and Huckabee than Paul. The simple answer is because he is not the media's choice for a candidate. Do some favorable promoting of Paul in the media and his poll numbers will rise. Try it.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:43 pm |
  436. Daniel Hagquist

    Ron Paul is not shown in the polls because it is not in the best interest of the elite who own and control the mainstream media to give him any airtime. If the elite allowed Ron Paul to get the exposure he deserves then that could potentially spell the death of their big businesses, their money ties with the media, and ultimately their control over the american people.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:43 pm |
  437. Freedom

    America is not a Republic or a Democracy but instead a hypocrisy. The American people are tricked and fooled and don't even know it. Even the ones hearing this now have no idea what I'm talking about.

    Reston Virginia

    December 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm |
  438. Angela Canny

    I suspect that reason that Paul is not higher in the polls is because the media spends more time reporting poll numbers than they do reporting voting history and integral policy differences.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm |
  439. Teresa

    Not sure who these 'polls' are calling. As a registered republican who voted for Bush (DOH!)- nobody has tried to call us to answer any polls. I really do not understand why the poll #s are so off. Perhaps they only call certain people in the executive committees?

    I can't wait to see what happens when all those no party affiliated, newly registered Republicans and Independent voters get to the voting booth! I have a feeling it is the end of 'elections' as we know them. Anything can happen at this point!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm |
  440. Jaime G.

    Ron Paul's appeal lies in the fact that he is not polished and plastic like many of the other candidates. I haven't voted for anything in over 10 years, but I am now a registered Republican who will be at the Kansas caucus on Feb. 9th supporting Ron Paul with pride.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm |
  441. wally in mount vernon illinois

    Life long democrat, vietnam era veteran, retired police dispatcher. Go RON PAUL.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm |
  442. Clayton Allgood

    Mr. Cafferty,
    Our country has become only a faded image of what our founders had planned for us. Main Stream Media (MSM) largely overlooks the issues behind campaigns and focus on trivial distractions for entertainment because it sells more ads. The American people need a news outlet with courage to ask the candidates hard questions that matter. Our country is at a time when we need real leadership, constitutional reform, monetary reform, a new foreign policy and legislative reform of our bill of rights which has been eroded by this administration. If you listen to all of the candidates other that Ron Paul none of them are offering solutions to these critical issues. Why that is not being covered by the MSM is a mystery.

    The Answer is the MSM is giving other candidates much more coverage but not focusing their "plans" to solve the critical problems that we have. They don't have the solutions to the problems because they want more of the same. By doing that the MSM is suppressing the message of Freedom of Ron Paul and the grass roots following and the overall poll numbers. Our numbers are rising though and with our without the MSM the message will continue and grow.

    I have always respected your commentary. You are on of the few lone voices of reason and perspective. Thanks for being a part of the solution not the problem.
    My Best,
    Clayton Allgood

    December 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm |
  443. JP Bonner

    First, it must be mentioned that Paul has won more state straw polls than any other candidate- except at polls where his supporters are barred from participating.

    However, there are two major reasons for Dr. Paul's low profile in the polls and overwhelming presence on the internet.
    1) His support is underestimated in 'scientific' phone polling due to the demographic receiving these calls (usually Republicans who voted in 2004). Citizens under 30, a major source of his support, typically do not even own landline phones. His name is often omitted from polls, as in IMC Polling's major NH survey.
    2) His grassroots campaign is truly that- an effort conducted entirely by individuals acting on their own. Ordinary citizens cannot set the content of major news networks, but they can share their opinions online. The internet is the truest representation of the country's mood, and the 2008 campaign will eventually be compared to the first true election of the people in 1828- whether Paul wins or loses.

    The dedication of his supporters may point out some of the flaws of our polling system. With only 10% of registered Republicans voting in primary elections, the Paulites believe that they can make a splash simply because their attendance rate will approach 100%.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm |
  444. Tom McArdle

    Journalists, Politicians, Military Industrial Complex employees are faced with major changes in a Ron Paul Administration. Rather than change they prefer the status quo, so they ignore Dr. Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:45 pm |
  445. Ed

    I am an Ind who finds it hard to support anyone who represents either one of these 2 corrupt and incompetent parties. I have a hard time voting for a Rep because they want to legislate religion, and even more reasons for not voting for a Dem. The only reason I would consider RPaul if he were to get on the ballot is because he is the only one who actually talks about the job the right way. The job of every elected official is to defend the Constitution, and to only make laws that the Constitution gives them the right to make. I dont think the majority of politicians even know what the Constitution is, let alone what it says.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:45 pm |
  446. Willem de Wit

    If Ron Paul has as little support as the (scientific?) polls suggest, how come he can raise more than $6 million in one day?

    December 17, 2007 at 4:45 pm |
  447. Matt Otremba


    I long for a day when ideas and consistent intergrity are more important qualites then who the mainstream media knights as their 'top tier' candidates.

    When I think of Ron Paul and his supporters I am reminded of a quote by Samuel Adams:

    "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."

    Baltimore, MD

    December 17, 2007 at 4:45 pm |
  448. caroline

    The "polls" don't seem to reflect the kind of voter I am. Formerly registered Independent (now Republican just to vote Ron Paul). I only use a mobile phone and only get my news on the internet. Maybe the establishment will be surprised by how many of us come out on caucus day.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:45 pm |
  449. Kent

    Worth a second posting.

    "Troy: Give Ron Paul the time on the air that the other candidates receive and the polls would shift dramatically. Look at how much time McCain is getting right now over something as trivial, and worthless, as support by Lieberman. Give Ron Paul the attention he deserves without just saying “a long shot with little chance to win” and Ron Paul will win the primaries, the elections, and turn this country around.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:46 pm |
  450. SteveH

    CNN: You are as guilty as any out there who manipulate polls, or pull them from your web site when the out-come is not what you want.

    We need the JNN: Jack News Network

    December 17, 2007 at 4:46 pm |
  451. Joe Corrigan

    I would say it's easy for someone who wants to abolish Social Security and the public education system to raise money because the people who already have a lot of it stand to gain more. On the other hand, the other 98% of the voters in this country will remain compassionate and thoughtful about the wellness of our children and senior citizens. I like that Mr. Paul isn't afraid to break from the pack on issues like the environment, but on the latter two, he is dead wrong.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:46 pm |
  452. Patricia

    The NEO-CONS & the "Religious Rightists" are not going to let Ron Paul win the nomination. It's just that simple.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:46 pm |
  453. Yannis Piotoyannakis

    Ron Paul is like an iceberg. What shows above the surface is a lot smaller than the huge mass under the surface, below the field of vision.
    We, who support him do not like "poll" games and that may explain why he does not appear so big in the polls.
    We are moved by straight talk and substance and he is the only one that offers both.
    We, Americans, had all the power and wealth and allowed our government to give it away while taking away our rights and effectiveness.
    Under Ron Paul, government will assume its correct role which is to be a servant of the people and not an entity that can get into your pocket without permission, get what they want out of it and do whatever they want with it.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:47 pm |
  454. Crystal Spargo

    Dr. Paul has a wonderful and strong support base, but that is where the problem lies. He has a very powerful message, calling for major changes in this country. This message seems to resonate deeply within America' s multitudes. Unfortunately our efforts are not being met graciously by the mainstream media, which justifies our cause that much more. It would take an ounce of support from the mainstream media for Dr. Paul's campaign to fly across this nation, but to no avail...we have not received such support yet. I am hopeful though because 6.6 million dollars can buy t.v. time, even if it is not offered, the people have spoken and we will be heard!! I thank you so much for your time and your willingness to offer this support.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  455. Titus

    If Ron Paul supporters get off their rears and vote for him in the primaries and caucuses, he will win. If they don't, then this country deserves to sink.

    As for Democrats, I honestly don't get how they can consider not jumping ship just for the primaries. Do they want an opposition party like the one they've been dealing with? Then they deserve Huckabee, cause thats what they are going to get.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  456. Brandon

    The reason why Ron Paul's numbers are so low in the polls is that polls are engineered for a determined outcome. Who determiens the outcome? Our great watchdog media and their bosses.

    It would be a shame for special interest groups and large corporations should Ron Paul win the nomination, so their children companies don't report, or include him in polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  457. Charles

    It be because the polls are ineffective at producing accurate results. They are still conducted in ways that no longer fit with the direction that politics is heading. The only polls that he is low in are the one's run by power hungry corporations that currently have a stranglehold on our news media. Check any poll that is not "screened" such as those on the internet and true free speech media outlets and they will all show what we all know, that Ron Paul is the bright light in our future and will win the Republican nomination.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  458. Kris

    The National Polls do not mention his name during the calling/polling process....Dr.Paul is referred to as "Other". It is so obvious that the MSM is ignoring Ron Paul, and it only makes people want to find out more about him. 6 million in 1 day and CNN talks about it for 30 seconds.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  459. Annette Hardman

    Hey Jack,
    Ron Paul is not doing better in the polls because the polls themselves are not really as scientific as the media say. When the choices on the polls are the so called top tier candidates and then the last choice would be "other" and Ron Paul is not an actual choice in the poll, well then how are the polls correct and scientific?

    Also the polls are taken from only republicans who were registered in the last election who voted for Bush. That is a very slim slice of the electorate who will put Ron Paul in the White House, barring voting booth shenanigans of the last election for Bush.

    There are thousands of people who are supporting Paul who have never voted before. He has cured tremendous apathy in this country from the last presidential run. Could it be his his ideals of smaller government and foreign policy of non intervention??

    Voting for the less of two evils is pretty sad in this country. Ron Paul and is platform and voting record are hungrily sought after today with so much wrong in our government and in our world. He is a true choice for the first time in a long time.

    How refreshing!!

    70% of Americans want us out of this war Jack, and except for Ron Paul the rest of the republican candidates are parroting Bush's foreign policy and so are the democrats, which by the way has been a total and utter failure the entire time.

    There are a lot of really angry democrats who were elected to this congress to end the war. What do we have now.....more of the same. They have handed Bush everything he wants. They, also will be voting Paul, like me. We are sick of the same old CFR groomed candidates that they roll out every election cycle. Two sides of the same neo-fascists corp-gov controlled wimps! Politician's quit working for the people a long time ago and people are just now waking up in droves to what has gone on under their noses! They are damn mad about it too Jack!

    I am have been a registered democrat all my adult life, I have crossed over and plugged my nose to register republican in this primary and my vote will go to Ron Paul. He is our last hope to save an America that we lost somewhere down the line. He has awakened the country to the dire danger we face of losing our Constitution and our country.

    Thanks Jack for the mention and it would do your network good to actually follow the Revolution. It is really getting huge. It will show up in New Hampshire and you guys will have to twist in the wind and be all embarrassed that you didn't give this true statesmen more air time.

    Viva la Revolution Jack!!!!
    A forty nine year old mother of 5 children with a loving hardworking husband who are part of the not so young crowd of Paul supporters who demand that the government get out of our personal lives and restore the rule of law as written in the Constitution. Who demand the bringing home of our weary troops who are the true hero's here and deserve more respect than what the Bush-Cheney junta have given them.

    Annette Hardman
    Snowflake, AZ

    December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  460. Fred M

    There is something almost sad when the people have to inform the press of what is going to happen, if you cant see this tsunami coming , then you guys are in the wrong business. many reasons the polls dont refect him , cell phones not on polls ect... we ll see.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  461. Austin Duggan

    The answer to your question first requires an examination of its assumptions. First, who are the "most" that "consider him a distant long-shot?" Are they a loud minority of professional journalists, academics and political commentators? Do they include even one of the more than 100,000 Ron Paul supporters? I think that it goes without saying that there is a divide between the media and the public, not to mention a disparity between the public and their political representatives, a fact that would be relentlessly reported by any organization which took its free speech seriously. Nevertheless, let us suppose that your first assumption is correct, and that the polls really do reflect general opinion. Might Ron Paul's low numbers have to do with the fact that he is excluded from much articulate commentary, relegated instead to biased coverage of how "wacky" the old-school republican is? Or worse, the shameless coverage of so-called "front runners," who rarely receive such unprecedented grass-roots contributions and who garner their support instead from the same wealthy, elite minority that controls media outlets? If you can address your presuppositions honestly, then the question "how come he's not higher in the polls" should evaporate, the capacity for sincere dialogue pending.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:49 pm |
  462. American

    This country is no longer a Republic or a Democracy but instead a Hypocrisy. The American Sheeple are tricked and don't know it, in fact the people who are hearing this now don't know what I'm talking about. Ron Paul 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:49 pm |
  463. Daniel

    Huckabee had low poll numbers for a long time. Just wait and watch Ron Paul's Tipping Point.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:49 pm |
  464. Katie

    I don't understand myself why anyone would support Dr. Paul, and here's why: my elderly mother suffers from RA and COPD. She is so far below poverty level that it's laughable, and requires a number of expensive medications that she would not be able to afford if it were not for Medicare D, a program that Dr. Paul and his ilk want to do away with. I'm not likely to support any candidate who wants to decide who in this country gets to live and who gets to die because he thinks government should not help ANYONE. Perhaps Dr. Paul and his supporters should look to Dickens–after all, was it not Ebenezer Scrooge who thought the poor "ought to die and decrease the surplus population"? He only points up why there are those who think conservatives, far from being reasonable people, are in fact heartless bastards.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:50 pm |
  465. Matthew Bonnstetter

    80% of Americans have known for years that our government has not been doing the will of the people.

    We know there is a lot of waste and fraud going on.

    We know the war on terror can't win the way we have tried it.

    We know lots of people give lip service to supporting our troops, but they don't get the support they need and deserve.

    We also know that we NEED change and we finally have someone who is honest, consistent and can talk without a speech writer.

    I'm proud to call myself an American today. Thanks Ron Paul supporters.

    It is a time to sacrifice for our constitution just like our founding Fathers & Mothers.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:51 pm |
  466. RonPaulForTheLongHaul

    Ron Paul has sponsored many more bills than the average representative, such as those that would abolish the income tax or the Federal reserve. Many do not reach the House floor for a vote because most are worthless. I can not think of one piece of legislation that Ron Paul has gotten passed that is of any benefit to a majority of people. And this is after years of having the ability to do something worthwhile in congress and failing to do so because he devoted his time to pipe dreams like abolishing income tax instead of what he was paid to do. That in my honest opinion is why Paul does not do well in the polls. He is half a bubble off level.

    So Ron Paul should abandon fighting for the Constitution and the American ideals of freedom and a non-interventionist foreign policy just because they're not popular with everyone else? Ron Paul has been doing a service to this country by acting as the Constitutional conscience of Congress. He now has a strong record of 30 years that warned that the dangerous interventionist foreign policy that was most popular with Congress would lead to disaster in Iraq and more terrorist attacks. He's also been warning of the dangers of loose monetary policy that have led to the current housing bubble and the $10 trillion debt.

    Some people fight for what they believe in. Some people just go with the flow. Ron Paul is the former.

    Read his book "A Foreign Policy of Freedom" or forever hold your peace.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:51 pm |
  467. Michael Trainor

    I think what people are forgetting that is not only a land line issue, it is a caller ID issue. I never, never answer the phone if it is a number I do not recognize or looks like telemarketing. I am sorry, but the polls are out dated and all you have to do to realize this is look at 2004. You are the reporter, why don't you get out there and report on this revolution taking place. All it takes is removing your blinders and you will see that he is by far and away the most popular candidate.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:51 pm |
  468. Michael

    Jack, I want to thank you by giving this story the attention it deserves. As I scan the hundreds of responses to your question I see many factors that undoubtedly impact Ron Paul's poll numbers. It's true that his name has been excluded from many polls, and it's also true that more and more Americans are switching to alternatives to the traditional land-based phone lines, which may not be contacted by these pollsters. But the real reason why Ron Paul is so low in the polls is because he is running as a Republican. When I registered Republican, the party represented small government and fiscal responsibility. Unfortunately it now stands for an imperialistic foreign policy and refuses to consider a candidate who stands for any less. They realize that this position is unpopular, and so their focus is shifted to rallying voters AGAINST Hillary. Ron Paul is the most Republican candidate among them, it's just too bad that they are unable to look past this one issue and really listen to the American people.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:52 pm |
  469. Dwayne Dull

    At a average of $50 per donation thats a lot of people, If you give $50 logic says you will go vote!

    December 17, 2007 at 4:54 pm |
  470. Jacob Lyles


    Ron Paul still has a name recognition problem. Last week the Washington Post ran profiles of each of the “front-runner” Republican candidates, excluding of course Dr. Paul. Not too long ago, the Des Moines Register profiled six Republicans, excluding Paul though including Tancredo. Every trivial utterance of Romney, Huckabee, and the others makes prime-time news. Paul may reach that point, but at present his story needs to be carried to the people by volunteers. There is a news blackout.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:54 pm |
  471. Brian Dunn

    Probably for the same reason that Paul is so popular within the military. The vast majority of Americans can afford to make voting decisions based not on research, but on 30-second commericals; they are individually content with the status quo and can expect little impact from federal policies in their own lives. To those in the military or those who are patriotic enough to inform themselves before voting, the current status quo in unacceptable. No matter how small their polling numbers, I respect his supporters for admirably informing themselves and refusing to be cowed into voting for yet another mediocre politician.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:54 pm |
  472. howieb


    I'm a newly registered Republican in San Francisco and I saw first-hand how we, the Ron Paul supporters, are changing the face of the Republican Party. The local GOP here held a straw poll a couple of weeks ago. The Ron Paul supporters showed up in droves to vote for our guy. When the GOP organizer, Gail Niera, saw our overwhelming numbers she cancelled the poll. The lesson for me is, if you ask previous Republican primary voters (who voted for Bush remember) which candidate they will vote for of course Ron Paul is going to be in the single digits but that's only half the story. The pollsters need to ask us, the new Ron Paul Republicans how we're going to vote. We're energized and we're going to make sure Dr. Paul gets the nomination.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:57 pm |
  473. Tom

    The only poll that matters is held on election day.

    On that day Jack, you and all the other MSM prognosticators will feign surprise when Ron Paul sweeps, in an effort to maintain an iota of credibility.

    Heres a tip, bring a spatula to work, it will help you scrape your jaw from the floor.


    December 17, 2007 at 4:57 pm |
  474. european

    "Here’s my question to you: If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he’s not higher in the polls?"

    That is an incorrect question. Even at your own polls he scores 90% but those polls get ignored by your own station. He also has won a lot of strawpolls. Pay more attention to him, and he will be the new president of the USA. That is all he needs at this point in time: more publicity through the mainstream media.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:58 pm |
  475. Scott Simpson

    Ron Paul is a fatherly sort of man without physical stature or sex appeal. His candidacy is based on his smaller government, less meddling, policies which have turned a switch on in many people's minds resulting in the enthusiasm you see displayed all across the US. The cognitive apathy in many- lulled into slumber by the notion that once elected, an administration is "the decider" and you have no more choices in the matter- is switching one by one back to the idea that AMerica is a nation by the people and for the people. Ron Paul is the gnomic sage who is simply whispering in the wind.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:58 pm |
  476. andy davenport

    What the 'lamestream' news media shows in the way of polls doesn't mean much...when the number are low, they highlight them....when they run higher, they ignore them.

    For examples:

    December 07, 2007

    The new MSNBC/Newsweek poll on Iowa puts Ron Paul at 8% of likely GOP caucus-goers, 2 points above McCain.

    But both MSNBC and Newsweek, who commissioned the poll, have omitted Ron Paul from the analyses.

    Newsweek's article on the poll analyzes it with regard to the top candidates, including McCain, but omits any mention of Ron Paul, who beats McCain in their own numbers.

    Chris Matthews, who was the first to announce the results on MSNBC, displayed a chart:

    Huckabee: 39%
    Romney: 17%
    Thompson: 10%
    Giuliani: 9%
    McCain: 6%

    and then proceeded to talk about those five candidates, never mentioning Ron Paul's 8%.

    Then take the Straw Poll in Iowa.....what did Faux News do ?

    Ron Paul took 5th place with 9.1% of the vote.....but when Faux put the numbers on the TV screen, they went 1st, 2nd, 3rd....skipped 4 and 5, then listed 6,7 and 8th ( Rudi with 1.3% )...nah.....no bias there, huh ?

    I'm reminded by that picture of Harry Truman holding up a copy of the Chicago Tribune with "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN" as proof the news media, from time to time, doesn't have CLUE what is really going on......and I suspect this is one of those times.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:58 pm |
  477. Chad Timmons

    Dr. Paul needs more exposure at the national level. Rather than waste time talking about Huckabee's son and his legal issues, why not discuss Ron Paul's record breaking fund raising day and his growing grassroots support. Nearly every story I watch about Paul is a 3 minute blip on the screen. If Dr. Paul had more exposure on mainstream media, those poll numbers would surely change, instead the media coverage determines for voters who are the "key players" among candidates.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:59 pm |
  478. Dean Allison

    When Ron Paul is inaugerated President of the United States of America, the stock market will literally go through the roof on day one. Investors know when they are being led by a finance expert. Ron Paul will return our economy to the gold standard and will return our civics to the Constitution.

    The Ron Paul Revolution is people's spirit of Peace and Prosperity.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:59 pm |
  479. Robert J.


    If the common man or woman cannot see the bias being done in the media, there truly is a problem in America. The media will not report that they themselves are being biased, nor do they need to. They demonstrate it on a daily basis for everyone to see if you are willing to see the truth. All you have to do is open your eyes and take off the Party blinders. Once you do that, I promise you, you will be amazed at what is going on.

    Thank you Jack,
    Robert J.

    December 17, 2007 at 4:59 pm |
  480. RonPaulForTheLongHaul

    Here is a very inspiring email from Ron Paul:

    What a day! I am humbled and inspired, grateful and thrilled for this vast outpouring of support.

    On just one day, in honor of the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, the new American revolutionaries brought in $6.04 million, another one-day record. The average donation was $102; we had 58,407 individual contributors, of whom an astounding 24,915 were first-time donors. And it was an entirely voluntary, self-organized, decentralized, independent effort on the internet. Must be the "spammers" I keep hearing about!

    The establishment is baffled and worried, and well they should be. They keep asking me who runs our internet fundraising and controls our volunteers. To these top-down central planners, a spontaneous order like our movement is science-fiction. But you and I know it's real: as real as the American people's yearning for freedom, peace, and prosperity, as real as all the men and women who have sacrificed for our ideals, in the past and today.

    And how neat to see celebrations all across the world, with Tea Parties from France to New Zealand. This is how we can spread the ideals of our country, through voluntary emulation, not bombs and bribes. Of course, there were hundreds in America.

    As I dropped in on a cheering, laughing crowd of about 600 near my home in Freeport, Texas, I noted that they call us "angry." Well, we are the happiest, most optimistic "angry" movement ever, and the most diverse. What unites us is a love of liberty, and a determination to fix what is wrong with our country, from the Fed to the IRS, from warfare to welfare. But otherwise we are a big tent.

    Said the local newspaper (http://www.thefacts.com/story.lasso?ewcd=36475b4d132fc0a1): "The elderly sat with teens barely old enough to vote. The faces were black, Hispanic, Asian and white. There was no fear in their voices as they spoke boldly with each other about the way the country should be. Held close like a deeply held secret, Paul has brought them out of the disconnect they feel between what they know to be true and where the country has been led."

    Thanks also to the 500 or so who braved the blizzard in Boston to go to Faneuil Hall. My son Rand told me what a great time he had with you.

    A few mornings ago on LewRockwell.com, I saw a YouTube of a 14-year-old boy that summed up our whole movement for me. This well-spoken young man, who could have passed in knowledge for a college graduate, told how he heard our ideas being denounced. So he decided to Google. He read some of my speeches, and thought, these make sense. Then he studied US foreign policy of recent years, and came to the conclusion that we are right. So he persuaded his father to drop Rudy Giuliani and join our movement.

    All over America, all over the world, we are inspiring real change. With the wars and the spying, the spending and the taxing, the inflation and the credit crisis, our ideas have never been more needed. Please help me spread them https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate in all 50 states. Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less.



    December 17, 2007 at 5:00 pm |
  481. William Tee

    "If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he’s not higher in the polls?"

    Maybe because the people in the media think an endorsement by one politician is more important than nearly 60,000 endorsements by ordinary people in one day - endorsements made with their hard-earned cash.

    Actually, Ron Paul has been rising in the polls, but most voters haven't yet heard his message of freedom, peace, and prosperity. Now that he has the money to get his message out, he'll continue rising in the polls. And if things go well, he'll win the polls that count.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:00 pm |
  482. Tim Renstrom

    My take on the polls,

    The Republican primary is a horse race – and you don't want to be first until the end.

    In this game they shoot at the front runner – See Huck duck.

    I think Ron Paul is just where we want him:

    In first place with the majority – Us!

    ...and in fifth place with the minority – The people who get polled.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:01 pm |
  483. John

    I've got to say, you're one of the good guys; consider that huge compliment because I HATE all mainstream media. Your question is stupid and I think you know it.

    I have a question for you: Why is mainstream media constantly shoving neo cons and neo libs in our faces pushing the American people into serfdom? What makes Ron Paul a very unique candidate ever is monetary policy: RP shows unbelievable courage to talk about this in public. If you want cutting edge reporting, consider going deep into foreign and monetary policy, if you dare, as it all ties in with individual liberty and justice. In last 60 years, good leaders have been killed by a ruthless elite, we have one more in Ron Paul, pray that he does not meet the same fate.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:02 pm |
  484. Lee Montanaro

    Simple Jack, some candidates like Paul and Hunter do not get the media attention and time they deserve. All we hear is about the top 3 in each party and trust me, the american voters are looking for a new, uncommited candidate that promisses the leadership that has been missing for so long.

    It's the media's responsibility to give every candidate an equal time and exposure so that the voters can decide based on each candidate's experience, programs and knowledge on the many problems facing our nation.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:02 pm |
  485. David

    Everyone keeps mentioning both of the "money-bombs" where Congressman Paul broke fund raising records. Nobody mentions the fact that, even without these two huge days, he raised over $7 million this quarter, which is more than last quarter, which would still put him in contender status. But, for some reason, people seem to dismiss him. I think his $18 million total this quarter (almost 4 times his total last quarter) is a testament to his support. By the way, in regards to Jack's comment about Huckabee's money getting better after a strong showing in Iowa... why should they get any better? The cable media gives him more advertising than he could buy with as much money as Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:02 pm |
  486. Mike L

    Dear Jack:

    You have been an honest and sincere voice, and I appreciate it.

    Since not a single vote has been cast in an election, why are we allowing polls to so dominate the decisions on media coverage?

    Do the 100,000+ unique individuals who have contributed to Ron Paul this quarter to date not argue for a depth of support you are simply not measuring?

    Even presuming pollshave accuracy, are there no other factors worthy of consideration?

    It is a bit chicken/egg. Since Dr Paul gets only grudging coverage, much of it loaded with phrases connoting disapproval, how can any mainstream person not using the internet for news find out details about his positions? Where is the coverage of the discourse of ideas that should inform voters?

    Well, in a few weeks, the first genuine votes will be counted, and this discussion will be moot.

    PS: An example of loaded phrasing: why did CNN news coverage refer to the $6 Million as PLEDGES (and we "know" that "pledges" may or may not be collected or be even genuine) rather than PAID CONTRIBUTIONS (if in doubt, simply investigate the Ron Paul site and notice that the number posted reflected actual cash received from credit card payments)?

    December 17, 2007 at 5:02 pm |
  487. Anthony D.

    I have a question for you Mr. Cafferty, Why don't you asked your bosses at CNN why their is so little Media coverage ( At CNN ) of Ron Paul ?

    December 17, 2007 at 5:03 pm |
  488. Bob

    CNN and the rest of the MSM are nothing but shills for the current administration.They are bought and paid for period.The establishment knows that if Ron paul is elected the days of easy money and not having to work for a living are over.Why do you think he's not doing well in the polls?He's not even listed in many.They know he's a threat to their very existence.Why do you think they're pushing for Huckabee.What a joke.They realize that none of their chosen ones are electable so they push Huckabee' s numbers up,because he can be made into a shill for their agenda and the N.W.O. Ron Paul is simply nobody's shill.He isfor the American people and not the corporate cronies.He is about restoring the constitution and the power back to the people where it belongs.Pretty nutty ideas,Huh? Pretty simple folks if you actually like the status quo and think America's on the right path,Ron Paul is definitely not your man.

    Posted By Bob,Luray,Va. : December 17, 2007 3:56 pm

    December 17, 2007 at 5:03 pm |
  489. Aaron SchaitEL

    Ron Paul isn't very high in the polls for a lot of reasons, and none of them have to do with him or his campaign. I think this odd paradox proves that when the media and the elites have selected their candidates, the will do everything they can to stop the candidate that expresses the voice of the people.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:04 pm |
  490. Paul

    His support does not come from traditional pollsters. He will show surprising results at the election. His support is from an underground base of young people and fustrated older voters who are not interested in mainstream political antics

    December 17, 2007 at 5:05 pm |
  491. Jason

    Because your bosses (the ones that own both you and FOX) fear him, and refuse to give him the time of day that you give to the other candidates in an attempt to supress his message. I used to get upset with all the spin, but it's now just become 'fuel for the fire'. I'm not concerned at all. January will prove all these silly polls mean nothing. To keep it simple though, he doesn't show up higher in the polls because he's not listed on them. It's really that simple.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:05 pm |
  492. Jim, Henderson NV

    For years, Mainstream media has been able to convince voters not to “waste” their vote by putting out these bogus poll results. But now we have the Great equalizer: the Internet. We can now research candidates and their stances on the issues. Finally, We the People are waking up to the lies we’ve been fed. Ron Paul won’t lie to us! As long as we vote our conscience, Ron Paul will win by a landslide (both the republican nomination and the general election).

    December 17, 2007 at 5:06 pm |
  493. Raoul Duke

    The polls used are designed to show Ron Paul's support as being lower than it is. They use landlines which most young people don't have (since they use cell phones). They call people who voted for Bu$h in the last election. They often don't give Ron Paul as an option so his supporters must answer 'other'. If he wins a poll, they don't report on it.
    They rely on name recognition which is hard to get when the media are going out of their way to not metion Ron Paul. When Ron Paul's success in the primary votes is revealed, the old telephone polls that every news item mentions will be seen as useless. The media coverage of the election will also be shown to be biased and controlling of the democratic process. They don't call it a revolution for nothing!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:06 pm |
  494. Jeff


    The keyword used when you guys talk about polls is "Among LIKELY voters..." and I am a registered Republican but am not "likely" because I didn't vote in the 2000 and 2004 elections. This time though, I have someone to vote for, someone who I think is the most conservative of conservatives, a shining example of what I want in a leader.

    Jeff S
    Springfield Missouri

    December 17, 2007 at 5:06 pm |
  495. Thomas

    it's simple statistics. most of those who donated never voted or have not voted in the republican primary for a long time. polls can only be used to predict election with large margins. In this case, the polls are simply used as a political tool by others.

    Expect an upset some January, Wolf!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:07 pm |
  496. Kendra

    Dear Jack,

    Why isn't Dr Paul showing strongly in the polls? There are several answers that would fit here...But this is what I know, when Ron Paul speaks he inspires me. Inspires me to be a better American, Inspires me to exercise my right to vote, . At age 32 I have never been involved with a campaign before, now I take days off from work to be proactive in supporting him. Honestly though, if one of the other so called "top tier" candidates raised the money we did in one day it would be splashed all over the place. Is it not interesting that people refer to him as "crazy" yet he speaks of the ideals that made our country AMERICA??

    December 17, 2007 at 5:07 pm |
  497. Guy Holland

    The reason is media bias, pure and simple. If Dr. Paul's fundraising success merited as much televised ballyhoo as Huckabee's sudden ascendancy, then he might get more national traction. The fact that most of his supporters are giving $100 or less has got to tell you something. He might just win despite the disservice you do his candidacy. I'd like to see your faces then.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:07 pm |
  498. Jones

    Looks like most have an accurate understanding that the individuals polled are registered republicans just add that Romney funds many of the polls and thus controls the questions. Here in New Hampshire many of us ask the pole taker who's paying for the pole (usually Romney) than just say Huckabee, gives us a couple of weeks reprieve from the evening calls.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:07 pm |
  499. james boraas

    Frank luntz himself admits you can get any answer you want just by asking a question using different phrasing and terminology. Polls are pure propaganda .But if you repeat a lie enough times epecially to television watchers who are subceptible to -brain entrainment-They will be literally brainwashed The mainstream media is well aware of this fact it is a proven fact and they use it to achieve their goals .Media Bias has been around as long as politics

    December 17, 2007 at 5:08 pm |
  500. brad

    you can get polls to say almost anything. your corporate overseers at CNN and elsewhere donn't want him to win. That they haven't fired you or hushed you up for speaking positively about him is a miracle.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:08 pm |
  501. Charles Daniels

    I believe he is low in the polls because they are conducted with technologies of past eras. Land line phones are of the era of the dinosaur. Typically an older voter already pegged as a republican and/or democrat, and on file with pollsters are the ones that get the call. I have yet to receive a phone call from a pollster. Paul's support is from a younger, energetic group, not that there isn't people from all walks of life. Maybe they are the 8 percent the polls reflect.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:08 pm |
  502. Ben

    Most polls only sample voters who've voted in Republican primaries in the past, e.g. loyal establishment Republicans. Paul's angry and somewhat incoherent rants have done little to persuade these folks but have energized the young people and independents who are financing his campaign. If Ron Paul were a skilled politician like Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney, he might be leading some of these polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:11 pm |
  503. Leanna

    Ron Paul is the best man for the job! President that is. Would you rather vote for the lesser of two evils, like we have been doing for years. Or would you rather vote for the leading advocate of freedom, Champion of the Constitution, Most consistent voting record out of any of the candidates. He will bring our troops home, secure our borders, right there our economy will rise. To say that Ron Paul HAS NO chance is more laughable than to say Guilani HAS a chance. The message is spreading like wild fire, It won't be stopped! Freedom is what We the People want, and Freedom is what We the People will get!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:11 pm |
  504. Frank

    The wording of the poll questions, and the exclusion of his name from many of them. Not to mention, phone polling only registered Republicans, who voted in the last presidential election, omits any voter from 18 to 21 who may be excited about voting for Ron – of which there are many! Phone polling also assumes that everyone has a land line telephone. Many people, such as myself, only have a cell phone!

    And, heaven forbid anyone actually suggest that the pollsters are BIASED, depending, of course, on who is paying them to take the poll.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:11 pm |
  505. Chris


    The longer that the media downplays and ignores Ron Paul, the more irrelevant and foolish they are going to look when he does well in Iowa, and wins New Hampshire. If anyone wants to know the truth about Ron Paul's support, they simply need to do a search for "Ron Paul rally" on YouTube.

    Chris in Blacksburg, VA

    December 17, 2007 at 5:11 pm |
  506. Stephan

    He polls poorly because every time he raises this kind of money, the mainstream media essentially ignores it. I live in Sarasota and this story should've made the front page of our paper, but it didn't. Voila.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:11 pm |
  507. mT

    Dear Jack,

    To answer your "question to you" . .. .

    Ron Paul is not higher in the "official" polls because most of them do not even include his name as a choice.

    He is obfuscated into the "other/none" category and then the massmedia's crooks slap a 1-8% number on their fancy poll graphics.

    Of course, I am almost sure that you are already fully aware of this.

    Hey maybe you can do an investigative story into that !??!

    Thank you very much . .. ..that is all.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:11 pm |
  508. Wendy


    I've scanned all of the many responses so far but did not see this possibility raised – Caller ID.

    If the Caller ID on my landline or cell phone shows "unknown", "not provided", or otherwise blocked information, I let the call go to voice mail. I imagine a lot of busy people do the same, leaving a very small subgroup of potential voters to actually answer these polls.

    Naturally, the results will be in favor of other candidates since those who would have selected Ron Paul are busy canvassing, making signs, and raising money.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:12 pm |
  509. Steve (Atlanta)

    While a lot of Paul supporters posting here seem plenty rational and reasonable (and as a Biden supporter, I'm not a fan of an appealing candidate getting little to no media recogition), there are an inordinate number of Paul supporters who are wild conspiracy theorists.

    These people are probably not the ones that you want to rely on. In fact, I'd consider it a blessing that you're flying under the radar, as the crazies getting exposed is not in the best intersts of the campaign.

    Once again, no offense to the hordes of rational Paul supporters, but you have some lunatics making the rest of you look bad.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:12 pm |
  510. Aaron

    Thanks for asking, Jack.

    I'm a Canadian and as far as I can tell Ron Paul seems to be running away with this entire election. I wouldn't just call him top-tier, I'd say he is pretty obviously the front-runner.

    The polls seem to be the only thing that says otherwise. Are you sure they are working correctly?

    December 17, 2007 at 5:13 pm |
  511. Stan

    For Americans who don't know we are constantly told Ron Paul can not win However let me remind you he is winning everything I mean everything, more than 50% of straw polls, 62.5% Caucus support and now the money flow who amongst us has this much support! He has been verbally attacked from everyone yet there he is still shining! we supporters have been called from the start just a few spammers, then we were stacking the deck, then we were called terrorist by Jeff Beck! Now we are all called young first time voters I laugh! This is great . I am registered republican voted many times and a veteran however I'm not young anymore if you think 42 is young vote Ron Paul and be forever young at heart! We are laughing at every win we make and we will laugh last RP Supporter!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:13 pm |
  512. Jeff

    Because the people commisioning the polls are crooks.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:13 pm |
  513. Raoul Duke

    Here's another question you could ask:

    If Mike Huckabee has surged so high in recent polls, how come he has not raised more money?

    I think supporters who donate are more likely to be active and vote for their candidate than those who answer telephone polls. Therefore more attention should be paid to Paul's contributions and less to these polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:13 pm |
  514. Carl Kelly

    Jack you are so right to point to this disconnect. The reasons are 1) the polls are not designed properly- only allow voting for "top-tier" candidates. 2) the polls are based on an unrepresentative sample- ie. they are measuring who 2004 GOP primary voters will select. 3) those paying for the poll expect a certain result. 4) media have either ignored Paul or else distorted his positions.

    It's really anone's guess how high he will do in the primaries, but the incredible enthusiasm if Paul supporters makes them highy likely to turn out during the primaries in droves! I imagine the real poll numbers will at least double the present "skewed" numbers.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:14 pm |
  515. Dave Potts

    Another reason aside from the cell phone issue, databases of previous GOP voters, and so on is that libertarians like to be left alone. I don't know about many of you, but I just don't answer calls from unknown numbers. I got a friendly message the other week from Mrs. Paul, but didn't even answer that because the number showed up "unknown." Polls just can't accurately reflect what will happen on election day. I could take a guess and probably end up being more accurate: RP will come in around 12 or 13% in Iowa, and closer to 19 or 20% in NH, which will be almost double what Giuliani gets in the granite state.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:14 pm |
  516. Wade

    In response to Katie (she wrote):
    I don’t understand myself why anyone would support Dr. Paul, and here’s why: my elderly mother suffers from RA and COPD. She is so far below poverty level that it’s laughable, and requires a number of expensive medications that she would not be able to afford if it were not for Medicare D, a program that Dr. Paul and his ilk want to do away with. I’m not likely to support any candidate who wants to decide who in this country gets to live and who gets to die because he thinks government should not help ANYONE. Perhaps Dr. Paul and his supporters should look to Dickens–after all, was it not Ebenezer Scrooge who thought the poor “ought to die and decrease the surplus population”? He only points up why there are those who think conservatives, far from being reasonable people, are in fact heartless bastards.

    What Dr. Paul has said is that we need to get people off welfare who have no business being there (like healthy individuals and illegals), and use that money for those like your mom who need it. We need to return the country to fiscal responsibility so that those promised care – like your mom – will continue to be taken care of. Dr Paul wants to keep the promises made to those in need! And he remembers the days before managed health care when no one was turned away. But if we continue in the direction we're going right now by implementing massive programs like Medicare D, there won't be any money to help her at all.

    Please spend some time reading about Dr. Paul's positions. It's the only way you'll know what he truly stands for.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:14 pm |
  517. RP

    It's because the corporations that control the media has a lot to lose if Ron Paul becomes president. The abolition of the Federal Reserve would level the playing field for most Americans, and knock those corporate criminals back to the stone-age (financialy speaking). Since all of the major media outlets are owned by major multi-national coperations (NBC= GE, ABC= Disney, CBS= Westinghouse, Fox= Newscorp, and CNN= AOL/TimeWarner), go figure. The media is owned by the same people who bought our government right around the time that the New Deal was implemented.


    If every one of those people who donated money the Dr. Paul's campaign votes, Ron Paul will win. Just remember, more people voted for American Idol than the last election. Now let's see if those pesky Diebold machines can be bypassed (vote with absentee ballots, people).

    December 17, 2007 at 5:15 pm |
  518. Gary Rumsey

    I could rant about the unfairness of the polls, and I could make a solid case by doing so, but perhaps a better answer to your question lies in the dismissive treatment he receives from all the mainstream organizations, including yours, where his introduction to viewers is regularly prefaced with a remark meant to belittle, such as "fringe" or "longshot", and his interviews are regularly concluded with the equally dismissive "Will you support the eventual nominee of your party?"

    Considering Ron Paul's passionate support, the appalling lack thereof from any other Republican candidate, and the expected low turnout at the primaries, perhaps the better question is "Will the other candidates support Ron Paul as the eventual nominee?"

    December 17, 2007 at 5:15 pm |
  519. Mike McCarty

    Treat him like a non existent person on the news.
    At all debates, stick him way to the side.
    At those same debates, try not to ask him relevant questions.
    If you have to ask him questions, try the type at the CNN/Youtube debate.
    Look what this week's issue of Time did to him...non person.
    When you have to speak of him, preface all remarks with words like "fringe" "longshot, or "no chance" candidate. Imply voting for him would be a wasted vote.
    Do not interview him on any heavily watched programs.
    List him under the "other" category on polls.

    Thank you for asking the question, but I really think you already knew the answer.

    You personally are an exception to the way the rest of the media treats this man and for this I thank you.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:15 pm |
  520. Brian Millhollin

    All the polls that I have found including CNN polls leave out Ron Pauls name. How can anyone vote in a poll that is bias. I also believe that if the American people knew what was really going on and knew how controlled the large media is, would understand the control the media has on outcome of these polls, Ron Paul would literally dominate the polls. Corruption at the top levels of our government is responsible for the unfare and bias polls because they control what everyone of us see on TV.
    The truth is not learned, it is realized. Ron Paul knows the truth and the elite and wealthy do not want the American people to know the truth. Wake up America!!!! Do your own research on the internet, you will be surprised at what you find.


    December 17, 2007 at 5:15 pm |
  521. Alexander, Washington, DC

    As Wolf Blitzer would say: "Amazing, Amazing Numbers!"...

    December 17, 2007 at 5:16 pm |
  522. old timer

    All the previous posters have given as the top 3 reasons;
    1) Ron Paul isn't even listed on most polls.
    2) Polls only include previous voters with land lines.
    3) A general disregard of an outsider by the herd.

    IMO, who cares?
    Polls or no polls, we will go on raising money, spreading the word, and maintaing our energy for the one bit of honesty in this whole political farce.

    Time and events will show who and what are true.
    God knows, as do we, that we won't find anything approaching truth from the herd clustered around the corporate buffet.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:16 pm |
  523. Lisa


    The answer to question is all of the above. I think someone high up is biased against Ron Paul and try several tactics to silience him and the amount of support he has. He has more grassroot support than all of the other candidates combined. I guess the media believes if they keep telling us long enough he has no chance we will give up. It's not going to work. It only makes us more resolved to get the message out ourselves. Thanks for your honest reporting of him. I wish more would be brave and fair enough to do the same.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:18 pm |
  524. vincent

    To ask the question is to answer it.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:19 pm |
  525. Bill from Maine

    Mr. Cafferty,

    Voting in straw polls is voluntary, donating to a campaign is voluntary, writing letters and showing support is voluntary. I have done all these things for Doctor Paul. In February, I will voluntarily caucus for Congressman Paul. If only I could VOLUNTEER for a "scientific national poll" then the MSM lie that Captain Paul has no real support would deflate. To answer your question about low polling numbers I suggest you get a few university mathematics/statistics professors on your show to explain how UNSCIENTIFIC the polls really are!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:19 pm |
  526. sheila mcclanahan

    I am sicken by thought .That the American People speck and loudly I might add and no net work is covering it .There were rallies and tea party reenactments all across this nation! The 6 million dollars. Was Americans specking with our wallet . and in the primaries we will speck with our vote! That is if our votes still count that is
    thank you for taking the time to notices we are specking
    sheila mcclanahan

    December 17, 2007 at 5:19 pm |
  527. Steve - San Ramon, CA

    It’s all about corporatism & media bias. If Rudy had raised $6 million, this will be front page news. But when candidate like Dr. Paul, who has a prescription for a real change for this country, he is marginalized and laughed at.

    If it wasn’t for the Internet and got my news from TV, I probably will think that his ideas are kooky.

    “Google Ron Paul!”

    December 17, 2007 at 5:19 pm |
  528. Patricia

    If I've said it once I've said it 3 times or more.... God Love you Ron Paul supporters, honestly.... But, you are not going to be allowed a voice at the Republican Convention.... I mean take a look at how contemptuously McCain treated Ron Paul during the debates... look at how the NEO-CONS treat Ron Paul.... Unless you can find a way of putting St. Rudy & Mitt & Huckabee along with the rest of those NEO-CONS running into a circle firing-squad Ron hasn't got a prayer... Mind I am a Democrat & because of Bush/Cheney will probably never be able bring myself to vote for a Republican, because of the NEO-CONS & "Religious Rightists" in your party, but, I will admit if a Democrat isn't elected I could swallow my dislike of Republican rule & tolerate Ron Paul as the President of my country.
    But, the NEO-CONS & Religious Rightist have a choke-hold on your party & unless you disband the Republican Party & start over they aren't going to let go....

    December 17, 2007 at 5:20 pm |
  529. Warren Campbell

    The reason he is not higher in the polls is primarly because of the media. The same compaines that control the media donate huge sums of money to the campaigns of the so called "front runners" and have an interest in seeing them win. These front runners were coronated as such well before there were any significant polling data. When the media makes judgements about candidates like "front runner" and "long shot" that biases the news and has a negative effect on the electorate. The status quo is very good to the media compaines of the world and they will do what they can to keep things the same.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:22 pm |
  530. Chris

    The aura of negativity imposed on his name by every newscaster that ever mentions "Dr. Ron Paul" does have an effect. We in the education field discuss the severe ramifications of shaping childrens views on any given topic through precisely this effect.

    Clearly a whole lot of Americans consider Ron Paul a solid candidate: I wouldn't give money if I didn't think he had as good a chance as any of the candidates. The truth of the matter will, to some extent, become clear once we get the opportunity to vote for him, too.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:23 pm |
  531. Adriell

    Hello, Jack, I guess my other message was inappropriate to be posted so I'm writing this message for a second time a much more thorough and appropriate way.......The reasons why Dr. Paul lacks in the "media poll" because they want it that way, if they expose that Dr. Paul is really winning the so called media polls then that will endanger a lot of things, he just might win and become the President, he'll get rid of Federal Reserves, IRS, End the War in Iraq, it's so obvious that they're trying to silence him as much as they can because if most Americans know who Ron Paul was they will vote for him, BAR-NONE.......no competition......Ron Paul is the reincarnation of our Founding Fathers....If the media keeps doing this then it shows that they have lost all their credibility of True Journalism......
    Thanx.....Ron is our Savior!!!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:23 pm |
  532. Jason Plummer

    It depends on which polls you're looking at Mr. Cafferty. Paul is leading in Alaska and the main stream media may be in for a shock when the New Hampshire primary comes around. The Live Free or Die state is an open primary, and for a person like Ron Paul who has Independents, Democrats, Republicans, and first time voters flocking to his campaign, it could give him the real boost he needs to finally gain acceptance by the media as a first tier candidate.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:24 pm |
  533. John

    Jack you have been watching the political machine for years, you know how these polls work. In the iowa polls Ron Paul has either not been on the list or considered as "other".

    No one can believe that a guy like Ron Paul is running for president. Americans have become apathetic, voting for the lesser of two evils. Not this time. Ron Paul is a real American Patriot – no compromise required. All the media says "Ron Paul can't win" but Ron Paul will win. This is American history in the making.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:24 pm |
  534. Chip Vogel

    Ron Paul supporters aren't at home when the polling calls come in, they are out in public promoting their guy.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:24 pm |
  535. Homer Gooseman

    Hi Jack

    Thank ye for your truly engaging and truthful show.

    My Ruth and I both believe in Ron Paul and we opine heartily that he is not polling higher because :-

    1) Ron Paul does not garner main stream media support for his ideas and policies as do the other candidates. By this, we mean all the other candidates' policies are analysed to a depth which Ron Paul's are not. In truth, Dr Paul's ideas are much more sophisticated and different to what the media is dealing with in regard to other candidates. Were his ideas to receive teh same serious consideration, Dr Paul would certainly capture the imagination of America and be supported in the polls.

    2) Jack, we feel there is evidence of incorrect polling by our esteemed pollsters in the industry. Our friends and relatives consistently report that the phone polls they receive, just do not allow Dr Paul to be picked as an option. Either the option is not available, or if it is, there is no vote registered. We would be so kindly grateful if you might look into this at some point.

    Thank ye and god bless all ye merry Gentlemen,

    Ruth and Homer

    December 17, 2007 at 5:25 pm |
  536. Rick Cain

    Why the heck are you asking ME, Mr. Cafferty? You are the investigative reporter, you find out why RP isn't higher in the MSM polls.

    When you are done, tell us.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:25 pm |
  537. George W

    Once I heard this honest doctor speak I was hooked. Who would of thought, an honest politician?!!! I quickly ran to my state voter office and switch to Republican just so that I can vote for him in January in the Republican Primaries. Say what you want, but you won't be able to stop the Ron Paul train. He's speaks from his heart and he speaks the constitution. His message is what us true Americans who want America restored want to here. The other republicans and other democrats better realize what's going on here, its a 21st century American revolution right before their eyes! Ron Paul 2008!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:26 pm |
  538. LeiLA

    Ron Paul's numbers are not higher in the polls because the media reports Paul's fantastic fund raising ability, but in the same breath, the media reports Ron Paul's low poll numbers.

    When will the media report on Ron Paul's record in congress and his stand on the issues?

    The British thought that the American revolutionaries were not a problem-until Yorktown. LA Times Blog.

    We are the army to elect Ron Paul for President.
    We are your friends and neighbors. Watch. Listen. You can hear us.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:26 pm |
  539. Jim

    Ron Paul is raising money from dedicated, but unrealistic, devotees. My stepdaughter tells my wife and I that her co-workers have been saying things like "Ron Paul is going to eliminate all taxes." Those kind of comments fall under the Forrest Gump category of "Stupid is as stupid does" I'm afraid.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:26 pm |
  540. Susan v.

    How much will those endorsements help? It depends on how much the media wants them to. Politicians are not elected by the people...they're elected by the media.
    BTW, why isn't anyone bent out of shape regarding that Saudi woman's male friend. I hope the media makes a big(ger) deal about that. That is also an injustice!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:26 pm |
  541. Benjamin Neiman

    You're asking the wrong question, Jack. We should be asking why the polls aren't reflecting Ron Paul's support when it is so evident by every other measure. Fundraising is just one of those measures but it probably gives the best picture:

    Quarter 1: 640,000
    Quarter 2: 2.3 million
    Quarter 3: 5.2 million
    Quarter 4: 18 million +

    Put those results on a graph and what you will see is a Logarithmic 'J-curve'. The real question is why don't the polls reflect these results?

    December 17, 2007 at 5:27 pm |
  542. Yvette Rosser

    Yesterday, while watching the Situation Room, Wolf Blitzer cut to an advertisement which was sponsored by Lockheed Martin. This may be one reason why Dr. Ron Paul does not receive the coverage that is his due. The media is blind! Note that Bushie Republicans are the most against Ron Paul.

    Today on the MSM there was endless coverage about Libermann's endorsement of McCain However there was hardly any coverage about Ron Paul's incredible fund raising on 12/16 (and thjs quarter). Importantly, there had been nothing about the endorsement of Barry Goldwater Jr..

    Barry Goldwater Jr. endorses Ron Pau;l

    Former congressman Barry Goldwater Jr. - son of conservative icon and 1964 GOP presidential candidate Sen. Barry Goldwater - has endorsed Republican Rep. Ron Paul's presidential bid.

    "America is at a crossroads," Goldwater says in a statement released by the Paul campaign. "We have begun to stray from our traditions and must get back to what has made us the greatest nation on earth or we will lose much of the freedom we hold dear. Ron Paul stands above all of the other candidates in his commitment to liberty and to America. Leading America is difficult, and I know Ron Paul is the man for the job."

    Goldwater Jr. represented Los Angeles County in Congress from 1969-83. His father, who represented Arizona, died in 1998.
    Posted by Mark Memmott at 11:28 AM/ET, November 16, 2007 in Endorsements, Presidential race, 2008, Republicans
    This is an example of why Ron Paul is not polling higher... he is being blocked by the powers that be:
    Ron Paul Excluded from NRSC Survey!
    July 21st, 2007 . by Micah

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee has sent out a survey to choose a new course for the GOP, as well as raise money for what is likely to be a very difficult election season. Part of this survey is a question regarding which candidate they will be supporting for the 2008 republican presidential nomination. They are running a similar straw poll on their website at http://www.nrsc.org/survey . In light of this, it is interesting to note a glaring omission from the field of nominees. In documents obtained by http://www.micahnelson.com, it has been revealed that Congressman Ron Paul of Texas, a long time opponent of the war in Iraq, is not listed as a candidate on the survey that was mailed to members, yet was listed on the online straw poll.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:27 pm |
  543. Sohaib Tulsa, OK

    Becasue everytime he is mentioned he poll numbers doubled. In polls they are not including him thats a big reason why his poll numbers are down mass media does not want to mention his name becasue they know he has one of the biggest followers in the country. They rather mention who is getting endorse by who rather then mention what Ron Paul has accomplish this quarter raised over 6 million in one day and for the quarter over 18 million. They rather mention Sen. Mccain which is behind Ron Paul. Ron Paul wins every republican debate and the polls don't lie. If they give him a fair chance he would beat any one in polls but they dont.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:29 pm |
  544. Joe M.


    Disappointed you had the chance to really awaken some people and rather chose to read the worst ones. How about the polling fraud ones?

    December 17, 2007 at 5:30 pm |
  545. Christian Reuter

    As far as I can tell there are two real reasons.

    The first is that the majority of the major independent polls are only polling people who voted Republican in 2004's primaries, which is likely a demographic that doesn't include the actual proportionate amount of Ron Paul supporters.

    Secondly, a lot of these polls aren't even including Ron Paul as an option, I've read dozens of accounts on this online.

    I think this traditional form of polling is outdated, especially when the mass media as a whole continues to dismiss Ron Paul's and his campaign as 'fringe' and a 'long shot.' The results from post-debate polls, his grassroot fundraising straw poll results clearly show otherwise.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:30 pm |
  546. Libro Ranger

    The polls reflect poorly for Ron Paul so those in charge of the voting machines can justify the rigging of the election. It would be so easy to guarantee voter anonymity and give voters a receipt so they could tell and everyone else could tell how they voted. For example, I vote for Ron Paul. I get a #, lets say 10000342302. I go onto the internet and look up the number. It says the number is a vote for Ron Paul. Anyone else could look at it too, but only I would know that was my vote. If their was a discrepany between my vote and my number then I could file a complaint. With voting machines, there is no paper trail.

    The questions you really need to be asking is how does Mike Huckabee come out of no where and becoma a front runner in such a short period of time? The next question you should ask is why can't they come up with a system that gives you a receipt for your vote?

    I know that me being a Paul supporter will automatically equate me with being a crazed conspiracy theorist, but I just don't get it. I need someone to explain to me why I can't look up my vote to see how I voted. The fact that I can't makes me wonder. Sorry, call me a wingnut, tinfoil hat wearing, fruitcake, nutjob, kook, crazy old uncle!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:30 pm |
  547. Kevin

    Frank Luntz is hired!

    Just wait till the primaries! You will all see.......

    December 17, 2007 at 5:30 pm |
  548. Stephen Dolenc

    there are three problems with the polling:

    1) Paul's name isn't always included in the polls

    2) Ron Paul's name recognition isn't as high as the other contenders (temporary)

    3) The people being polled are "likely GOP voters" and Ron's supporters come form every group imaginable

    4) and the media only reports the polls where Ron Paul is losing. He wins almost all of the straw polls he's entered in, but the news ignores it! http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

    December 17, 2007 at 5:31 pm |
  549. Enlightener, Washington, DC

    Dr. Paul is our special interest corporate run government's worst nightmare and they're using every tool available to discredit his good name.

    If you didn't see Congressman Paul on Jim Cramer's 'Mad Money' show on CNBC this past Friday, look it up on u tube or liveleak. Cramer gives Dr. Paul a phenominal endorsement.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:31 pm |
  550. Jack

    Ron Paul supporters will be out in huge numbers in the primaries!

    It is time to stop spending our tax dollars to kill and maim people in third world countries! We have to take care of America before we preach to other nations about how to take care of their people!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:31 pm |
  551. Natasha

    The so called “official” poll is a tool used by the mainstream media to manipulate the public into voting for the candidate that has been given the green light by corporate elitist. As long as Ron Paul is a champion of the constitution, US sovereignty, sound money and small government, the mainstream media will continue to ignore him.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:32 pm |
  552. Christian Reuter

    As far as I can tell there are two real reasons.

    The first is that the majority of the major independent polls are only polling people who voted Republican in 2004’s primaries, which is likely a demographic that doesn’t include the actual proportionate amount of Ron Paul supporters.

    Secondly, a lot of these polls aren’t even including Ron Paul as an option; I’ve read dozens of accounts on this online.

    I think this traditional form of polling is outdated, especially when the mass media as a whole continues to dismiss Ron Paul’s and his campaign as ‘fringe’ and a ‘long shot.’ The results from post-debate polls, his grassroot fundraising and straw poll results clearly show otherwise.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:32 pm |
  553. Mark DeRidder

    Unfortunately the "media respected" polls target Americans with a land line phone, and most internet-savvy young Americans do not have a land line. They instead rely solely on their mobile phones. These are the same Americans who discovered Ron Paul on the internet as it is currently the best non-biased way to learn about him. Additionally, many polls do not include Ron Paul as an option.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:32 pm |
  554. Eric Atkins

    Ron Paul is winning in the free market polls. TIME magazine's 2006 person of the year was "You". "You" has overwhelming picked Ron Paul as their candidate and the following has happened:

    * More people have donated to Ron Paul than any other candidate.
    * He just broke the one-day fundraising record - in the Q4 - when fundraising is supposed to be slim
    * He has won more straw polls than any other candidate.
    * Google reports that Ron Paul is the most searched candidate (They also report that he gets less news press than any other candidate).
    * His website gets more traffic than any other candidate's website as confirmed by several third-party companies.
    * He gets more traffic on other websites (Google, Yahoo, YouTube,
    Facebook) than any other candidate.
    * Oh, and his supporters have given him a blimp.

    It seems to me that Ron Paul is polling well. It's the Main Stream Media that isn't polling well.

    The MSM isn't costing Giuliani, Romney, or Huckebee any votes. They are costing Ron Paul millions of votes by not covering him. Again, Google proved that Ron Paul gets less mentions than the other candidates while getting the most search traffic. The problem isn't with Paul. It isn't with his supporters.

    What more can Ron Paul do? What more can a supporter do?

    December 17, 2007 at 5:34 pm |
  555. Suzanna

    Ron Paul has won many straw polls, and placed in the top three in almost all those he has not won outright!

    The voters would bring him to the top of the polls, IF given the chance!

    Ron Paul leads in Polls of people who have heard him speak:
    "After the first three debates on National television, three mainstream news channels featured polls asking the American people who won. After the first debate on May 3rd, MSNBC ran a poll obtaining over 72,000 responses showing Ron Paul was the most convincing candidate receiving 45% of the vote. His nearest competitor was Mitt Romney who received 18%. Fox news ran its own poll after the second debates on May 15, and with over 40,000 votes Ron Paul came in second with 25% of the vote. Watching Sean Hannity's face was priceless as while he was saying that Ron Paul's chances were over in this election, Fox's polling numbers flashed across the screen and had Ron Paul in the lead. He immediately did his best spin to claim the polls had been rigged. MSNBC also ran a poll about that debate and discovered Ron Paul was, again, the most convincing candidate with 64% of the over 25,000 responses. After the third debate on June 5, CNN's poll of over 25,000 respondents showed Ron Paul won with 60% of the vote."

    Don't forget, all those "Democrats for Ron Paul" are not included in the Polls!

    Go Ron Paul!!

    December 17, 2007 at 5:34 pm |
  556. ross

    I just watched cnn for the last hour and saw the same story on clinton obama 3 times and not one interview with ron paul maybe this is why people never know what the man stands for. maybe if the msm gave the same amount of coverage to all candidates this would not be the case.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:35 pm |
  557. Daniel Simser

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." – Gandhi

    We have been ignored, laughed at, and the media / corporate America is now fighting against freedom. So I guess the only thing left is for Ron Paul to win.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:36 pm |
  558. CK

    Bullet Points:
    1) The population of republicans polled consists of voters who voted in the 2004 republican primary in their state. In 2004 G.W. Bush was unopposed so unless there was a hot republican senate campaign that year the turnout of voters was quite small for the primaries.
    2) The % of the population without landlines ( 8% according to one web estimate, 14% according to a CNN survey on 12/10/2007 )is not polled.
    3) Name omitted from the list by the pollster ( there were several polls before Fred Thompson announced that had Fred and Newt Gingrich listed and omitted only Ron Paul )
    4) No polling of independents, and no way for a republicans only poll to capture any crossover Democratic or independent voters.
    5) The Paul campaign has not signed on a polling firm so there is no in- house "Paul Pollster" for any of the news networks to cite.
    6) The incessant reiteration ( Wolf is the most malignant with this ) of the "will you run as a third party candidate?, Who among the current candidates will you support after you lose? Will you promise right here and now to not run as an independent?" questions; which plant in the mind of the listener the assumption that this is a failed candidacy or a vanity candidate. ( This question is never asked of any other candidate in either party.) John Edwards would make a fine Liberal or Green Party candidate.
    7) He doesn't give simple sound bite answers to questions, and he is not easy to push around. ( Romney allowing Tim Russert to swish those coloured flip flops in his face was a disgrace. )
    8) He has more experience at national governance than the combined total of the three dem front runners and of all the republican candidates. McCain and Kucinich are the only other candidates who come near his years of service.
    9) He does not attack the other candidates religions or race or personalities so there is no sizzle that can be attributed to him. The Clinton – Obama dope use type of issue will not arise from a Paul campaign. Yet of all the candidates Dr. Paul is the only one who favours ending the war on drugs.
    The debates:
    1) Having predetermined who the front runners should be, the debate host parcels out the talk time to those pre-determined to be front runners.
    Example: In all the republican debates not one question regarding health care has been asked of Dr. Paul yet he is the only experienced health care professional on the stage.
    2) Dr. Paul is polite, chivalrous even. TV is not a place where politeness is valued,
    3) The polls after the debate where he usually wins handily are supposedly spammed. So CNN, Fox and the other media do not have IT staffs capable of creating a legitimate poll? One that only accepts one vote/ IP address.
    4) The phone in text polls are supposedly spammed, what no caller ID?
    Hope these help.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:36 pm |
  559. Nancy

    I am a Left Wing Anti War Democrat now registered as Undeclared in Massachusetts. I am a huge Ron Paul Supporter and plan to vote for him. The polls do not reflect people like me. Also the mainstream media continually tries to discredit, ignore, and marginalize the only candidate that truely represents WE THE PEOPLE Republican and Democrat. We are taking back out country and Ron Paul is the one to restore the Constitution.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:36 pm |
  560. Jesse B.

    Dr. Paul's standing in the national polls is simply because these "scientific" polls are highly biased, often lumping Dr. Paul into the "other" selection option (look on Youtube for blatant examples of this). Polls also typically target only those people with landlines (excluding most young voters) and people that voted in the primaries in 2004. Old media (yourself excluded) needs to wake up and show the legitimate movement that literally hundreds of thousands of American's are joining.

    Best Regards –


    December 17, 2007 at 5:37 pm |
  561. Rebecca Fox

    Dear Jack,
    What a great question! I think you probably know the answer to that question better than we do. I think I saw a report on Glenn Beck's show about the reliability of the polls. Maybe you should check it out..

    I know one thing for sure he is the only choice we have.
    He has given me a hope for the future of this once great country? I pray with all my
    heart that this man is our next leader.

    I ask you? How could you not support this man & his message? You have the power of the media on your side, why not use it to change the world for the better?
    Think about the future of our children!

    God bless you for at least talking about this wonderful and brave man!!!!!!!

    conservative homeschool family from NC

    December 17, 2007 at 5:37 pm |
  562. Scott

    Congrats with your campaign,...I'm watching from Canada – and wishing you, supporters, and the rest of the US the best.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:37 pm |
  563. Ray Columbus Ohio

    First, what everyone of your listeners need to understand is, that the base population of those being polled is not representative of a valid cross section of America. Why doesn't CNN display on it's screen the actual facts on the true makeup of the polled population. How can CNN and other news stations continue to perpetrait such slanted and bias poll data with a straight face. Come on Jack expose the news stations for what they are "blatant mouth pieces of the station owners" Our only hope is to actually have the revolution show up at the polls to the degree that cannot be jury rigged and spun to the someones predetermined outcome by the various fraudulent practices that continue to occur without repercusion.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:37 pm |
  564. andy davenport

    Hey Jack.....we all know you are a closet Ron Paul fan......time to come out !

    December 17, 2007 at 5:38 pm |
  565. Shanon Rogers

    Ron Paul often is not listed on those polls, or is under Other along with several others and that isn't accurate. It's only a matter of time as our movement grows before those polls do start moving up. He is a force to be reckoned with and the time for ignoring his possibility is drawing to a close.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:39 pm |
  566. Alvin T

    It's not that hard to wonder why he doesn't get the numbers. Just start mentioning Ron Paul's name every hour and then see what his numbers become. Oh wait...I think mainstream media wants to stick with their own picks.

    Houston, TX

    December 17, 2007 at 5:40 pm |
  567. Alex

    East answer;

    First, a "likely voter" in this election is NOT a "registered Republican who voted Republican in the last primary" as the pollsters tell us. I think that is a more accurate description of an "unlikely voter" and certainly not representative of the real actual likely voters next year.

    Second, he is excluded from many polls. I was one who recieved the infamous phone poll where "6" meant "other" and "7" meant remove me from the list. Dr Paul was not mentioned. When I pressed "6" I was thanked and told I would be excluded from future polls.

    Third the MSM laughingly call themselves "reporters" I call them "stenographers". They write nothing original, merely transcribe press releases. The MSM is pathetic and they'll wonder what happened when they wake up day and find they are out of job due to non-existent ratings or circulation.

    I go to church with the anchor of our local news TV program. We are friendly and one day on conversation it came up that I don't watch her 'news" show nor do I subscribe to the local paper yet I showed better awareness of world and domestic events than she did. she asked me why I don't subscribe to the 'news'paper at least. I told her when they start to put actual "news" in it I might consider it.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:41 pm |
  568. Daniel - SF

    Oh Jack...jack jack jack. You do seem to have a less biased voice than the rest but really... These polls mean nothing. How can RP place anywhere in polls that exclude him? If the polling were to reach everyone from landlines to cell phones you would see a much different outcome. An outcome your sure to see on election day.

    –Vote – RP

    December 17, 2007 at 5:41 pm |
  569. Alex

    Oh yeah as a followup to the so-called "news"
    The big story of the day is not an event that broke every fund raising record in American political history but a non-event of some irrelevant loser endorsing some other irrelevant loser (Lieberman endorsing McCain)

    December 17, 2007 at 5:43 pm |
  570. Not Frank

    If you wonder why he's not higher in the polls, just think F You Frank.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:46 pm |
  571. clell adams, Bham, AL

    Because we haven't canvassed enough. We haven't passed out enough SlimJims. Because we haven't told enough of our neighbors yet.
    Because when we do, and they understand Dr. Paul's positions, then they become converts to the cause of Liberty. "Legalize the Constitution!!"

    December 17, 2007 at 5:46 pm |
  572. clell adams, Bham, AL

    Oh, and thanks.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:47 pm |
  573. Amy Buehler

    Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls for several reasons. The first and most important, is that in most polls, RP is not a choice because he's already been pre-determined not to be a "front-runner". How can someone select him if he's not an option? The second, is that the pollsters only call land lines and many of RP supporters are under 30 years old, so they only have cell phones. Also, you have the media and the pollster groups themselves that manipulate the minds of the public and create the outcome they desire (e.g.: Frank Luntz himself admits that they couch the questions in order to get the answers they want). This isn't true polling and I suspect that when the primaries roll around, everyone will be knocked over by the turn-out of RP supporters who will be Dems, Republicans and Independents. Lastly, you have most Americans who are ignorant of the serious issues America faces in regards to our monetary, economic and foreign policy. If Americans truly understood and could discern the perilous days we are in, RP would win in a landslide.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:51 pm |
  574. Rob

    Simple: Polls are utter BS, and we should all wake up to this fact. (I would say this even if Ron Paul WAS leading in the polls). Look up Frank Luntz on YouTube to see what I mean.

    The way that the media has hijacked what we "think" is very Huxleyan, Brave New World-ish and quite frightening, far more frightening than even one event like 9-11. I am worried that many of us are brainwashed with repetitive messages from very powerful people.

    Remember, Americans: All great empires are destroyed from within.

    All that said, I have never been more optimistic about politics! To know that there is a movement towards Constitutionalism that goes FAR beyond one election or one man gives me a fantastic feeling and hope for my kids' futures. Ron was just the rallying point, this is bigger than him, I think he would agree...

    December 17, 2007 at 5:52 pm |
  575. Loren

    Listen, people... for those of you that seem to think that Ron Paul doesn't have a chance, let me point out a few simple facts:

    When you consider

    *historically primary elections only garner 15-20% of the electorate turning out to vote,
    *and then you factor in that not all of those votes are going to go for the same candidate,
    * votes will, in fact, be diluted down between what appears to be 4 candidates on the Republican side – Huckabee, Romney, Guiliani, and Ron Paul.

    When that is taken into account, you can see the small number of votes it will take to push one candidate over the top.

    Then you must take into account the money factor. The old adage goes, "Money makes the world go around", and that is oh-so-true when it comes to politics! The fact that Dr. Paul has an $18MM war chest, that means that he is going to hang around well after Super Tuesday. Like the festering wart that will not go away, he has got the ability to hang in the game for as long as it takes. Money is everything, in life and in politics. You cannot win an election without adequate funding, and he now has that.

    The nay-sayers can blabber all they want. The crooked pollsters can continue to twist the polls to suit their objectives. But Ron Paul keeps on coming, like a juggernaut gaining steam. Time will prove me right, I am confident of it.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:53 pm |
  576. A.J. from Oakland, CA

    Ron Paul isn't showing well in the old-world polls because his supporters are often new to the Republican party (having not participated in previous Republican primaries, or even not ever voted at all) and are often of a younger culture that do not have land-based phone lines, preferring to stick solely with a cell phone. But they are, without a doubt, the most dedicated group of supporters of any candidate this side of the aisle.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:53 pm |
  577. Steven Schweibold

    Thank you so much for mentioning Ron Paul on your show! I would just like to say that I believe Ron Paul is the most honest political figure in recent years. He stands up for what the average American believes in. He never takes credit for what the grassroots effort has done. Ron Paul might not show up in the polls, but I believe his numbers will show up come election day.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:54 pm |
  578. don m. peavey

    The answer is simple, polls only ask a pre-established base of Republicans whom the pollster knows the answer already, essentially. Ron Paul base is new Republicans, Independents and disillusioned Democrats. The media can say whatever they want and fix the polls as much as they want, but the ONLY thing they will keep the nation from being shocked during primary voting is for the Republican base to cheat and fix the primary election. Mark my words.

    Ron Paul is going to do, and is doing, FAR better than ANY media organization would dare give him credit for. The pollsters work hand and hand with the media, so you do the math.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:54 pm |
  579. Rob L.

    Why do we care about polls anyway? I don't vote for a candidate because some bunch of other people plan to. I vote for a candidate based on the candidate.

    Polling is just another weapon in the political toolbox to manipulate public opinion. The media would do well to focus less on polling and more on unbiased reporting on the candidates themselves.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:54 pm |
  580. Corey Young

    Ron Paul would be higher in the polls if the polls were legitimate. Every legitimate poll (which has not been controlled by mainstream media) show paul with commanding leads.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:55 pm |
  581. Curt Gentz


    Thank you for covering Dr. Ron Paul's history making donation day of a "Boston Tea Party". You are in a position to know why he is being ignored. Why does this man who has more Americans at every event, more supporters, more active meet-up groups, and more donations from the average American; and not spoken of as the only front runner in the Republican Party? He has been removed from certain straw polls, and the media polls must be a joke to have him in single digits. Have you traveled the country? He has support from everywhere! What has happened to our media? He is the only man who has no skeletons in his closet or issues of flip flopping, yet disrespected from the media??? He is the ONLY candidate who truly has the well being of the majority of Americans in mind as he runs for President. Do you have any idea of what is going on? (I know you are smart enough to know, "retorical question") Will you stand idly by as this man is pushed out of the focus of the National Media? Is this what has become of our Country? I don't want any more or any less coverage then any other candidate, can't they just be fair? How is it that the most Americans can see he is the real thing, yet the media who is supposed to be good at this, doesn't have a clue? Trust me, I know who owns the news companies, I know the game, but aren't their people who will stand up for what is right any more? Seems to me that the establishment wants a nonpeaceful rEVOLution, so it will favor them. If it were to be a violent revolution it would play right into their hands, and we don't want that! Will you help the Ron Paul REVOLUTION get fair coverage?

    Thanks Jack,


    December 17, 2007 at 5:55 pm |
  582. Emile Su

    The CNN poll shows Paul at 6%. But that was done in Oct. with only 374 responses. Since then there have been money bombs, blimp flights, and couple more national debates. Perhaps updating the poll more often would reflect a more accurate result, for Paul, and all other candidates.

    I do not think 374 is a very good representation of any population, especially when more than 500 alone marched at the Boston this past Sunday.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:55 pm |
  583. Jarret

    because mainstream media refuses to mention his name... the Republican party doesn't even like him because he doesn't "play ball" in their government bureaucracy. i have a sign on the back of my vehicle & people honk & wave with a "thumbs up" ALL DAY LONG !!! America knows what's going on, just like they CNN delivers a biased news report.

    search YouTube for: Ron Paul

    Atl, GA

    December 17, 2007 at 5:56 pm |
  584. F. U. Lutz

    He is high in all the text message polls after every debate, but those polls aren't tampered like the "scientific polls" the Main Stream Media (MSM) put out. Frank Lutz said himself that the polling is done in a way to control the outcome of the results in the favor of the pollsters.

    The establishment better make sure they don't tamper with the real votes come election day, or I predict bloodshed in the streets. This country will NOT lie idle to another stolen election.

    People are pissed off at government, and that's why Ron Paul will become president.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:56 pm |
  585. Ben Bowman

    I'll tell you why he's not higher in the polls. For whatever reason, those polls are no longer accurate. Ron Paul obliterates the competition in straw polls and wins nearly every debate he participates in. He commands a massive and loyal following as you already pointed out, and he's swimming in the cash they throw at his campaign. He has all the best signs of a front runner, with only one exception.

    The 6% of Republicans who have land lines and voted in 2004 appear not to like him very much. Is this enough evidence to damn him to "being low in the polls"?

    If it isn't, you MUST concede that Ron Paul is the runaway favorite in the Republican Party.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:56 pm |
  586. Gabriel

    U.S. Media & Polls = False Prophets
    False Prophets = Self- Delusion

    December 17, 2007 at 5:58 pm |
  587. beava

    Ron Paul is larger than the polls or the presidency. Ron Paul is what will be used to describe the winning back of our freedom.

    December 17, 2007 at 5:58 pm |
  588. John King

    Ron Paul does very well in polls.

    The question should be why are you not reporting it?

    Check it out yourself at:



    December 17, 2007 at 5:59 pm |
  589. JVC

    The success that Ron Paul is demonstrating is the "establishment"s" worst nightmare. Ron does not poll well because it is that scared establishment that sponsers the polls. controls the MSM, and would love to control the up to now free internet. What ever happened to the 4th estate and their responsibility to the people as a check on run away government–that should be the question of the day.


    December 17, 2007 at 5:59 pm |
  590. Nikita



    I don't think we need to say anymore, do we?

    Thanks for your coverage, I like you Mr. Cafferty 😉

    December 17, 2007 at 6:00 pm |
  591. James K


    First, it's often said that the only thing polls are good for is showing trends. And if that's the case, the trend for Paul is up. Can't really say that for most of the other candidates.

    There are two obvious answers to your question: lack of media coverage and poll design.

    Lack of media coverage is a serious problem. Although it's grip is loosening, the media still shapes public opinion by what it chooses to cover and how it chooses to cover things. Unfortunately, until recently, Dr. Paul was dismissed by the media. Now they treat him as a cute story, but don't take his campaign seriously. Is it any wonder that that results in low polling numbers?

    Second, poll design is a serious issue. Many polls do not identify Ron Paul as an option. Anyone knows that the people who are mentioned by name in a poll are going to do better than those who aren't. Then ther's the question of poll sampling techniques, most of them discount new Republican voters and those without landlines.

    But the more serious question that any self-respecting journalist should be asking is this: what's with the obsession with polls? Do you, as a journalist, really believe that the only lens for covering politics is that of prediction? We always here about "Who will win?" from journalists; little focus on "Who will govern well?". I'm surprised by this lack of curiosity or professional commitment to truly informing the public. Do journalists see politics as only sports? If they do, maybe they can take a lesson from sports journalists. There, in a subject that is very much only about winning, sports journalists nonetheless recognize that there is more to their job than predicting the final score.

    If mainstream journalists want to earn back the people's trust, then they will start adding more to their political coverage than yet another show giving us a daily prediction of who will win. And when it comes to polls, they will cover them objectively. They will report on what the margin of error really means and stop pretending that 4 point spreads in a poll with 5% margin of error is anything other than a poll that shows things are too close to tell. They will demonstrate to the public that they've actually done some journalistic inquiry into their own poll's methodology versus just reading a set of numbers off of a teleprompter.

    If a CNN reporter cannot tell me even basic things about how the CNN presidential poll was conducted - such as whether Ron Paul's name was actually offered as a choice to the individual being polled - isn't about time that we just call that person for what he is, not a journalist but a teleprompt reader?

    December 17, 2007 at 6:00 pm |
  592. Ian Drake

    I'm 31 years old. I'm a smart guy. I run my own IT consulting company. I'm normally a registered Independent. I'm an atheist. I'm a bit of a history buff. I'm well versed on current affairs. I'm a die-hard Ron Paul supporter.

    We cannot be defined. We can't be told we're nuts. We won't be ignored. We are spreading the word and we will win.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:01 pm |
  593. Rich

    You want to know why Dr. Paul can't break into double digits in polls? Watch this video to find out:


    December 17, 2007 at 6:03 pm |
  594. Matt, Alabama

    Jack, I'm not quite sure about the polls. I do know that he has exceeded expectations every chance he's gotten.

    His early low polling only added fuel to the fire though, so I'm not sweating it. What was John Kerry polling at in Iowa or NH at this point? Probably lower than RP at 8-10% in those states.

    National polls are useless. Please add up how many times Ron Paul's name has been mentioned on the evening network newscasts. Only smart CNN viewers and internet surfers know about him because of your excellent coverage.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:04 pm |
  595. Lisa M

    Ron Paul is going to bring the apathetically downtrodden out of their holes and to the voting booths. I agree that the media is biased against him. I've had my RonPaul2008 car sticker defaced and torn off. I can only imagine someone in their 30s on Medicare disability doing it, or the welfare queen with 6 kids. Personal responsibility and pride. Go Ron!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:04 pm |
  596. JOSEPH


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  597. Bastian6


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  598. Robb Brown

    It's simple Ron Pauls Message does not resinate with what those special interst groups that spend money on advertising on the MSM. They poll Republicans that voted 4 years ago...pretty sure if I was a republican 4 years ago and did not run in terror with Bush leading another 4 years...well Hell I would probably be a guy that still liked what he(Bush) is still doing. I would love to see a poll based on NEW Republicans. MSM does not follow the Straw Polls, the Meetup groups, The speeches, Online Polls, or the signage. If they did they would realize the only way Ron Paul will lose is if there is no Paper trail in the upcoming elections.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:07 pm |
  599. Caleb Friz

    Ron Paul's poll numbers ARE rising. After his first money bomb he more than doubled his poll numbers in most states and nationally, from around 3-4 % to between 6-11% depending on the poll.

    What you have to look at here is momentum. Ron Paul's poll numbers have never gone down, and they are rising at an ever-increasing pace. He is at 11% now in SC,only 13% from the frontrunner. If this money bomb double his poll numbers as the last one did, then that means he's in a very good spot to surge through the early primaries and take super tuesday.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:08 pm |
  600. ricky, wa

    Dear Jack,

    Thank you for asking the question. I don't have to tell you why. I just wanted to thank you for mention Ron Paul on your show. Many of the Ron Paul supporter have never voted in their life, but they will vote on primary and his support will grow exponentially. Hillary, Obama doesn't have a chance!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:08 pm |
  601. Robb Brown

    I dunno Jack. Why not ask 4% John Kerry how these polls really work?

    December 17, 2007 at 6:08 pm |
  602. GM Hoeberigs

    By giving too much media-attention to polls and endorsements, the big channels are influencing the election-race. I think the amount of people who donated for each campaign or the numbers of people in meetup groups (Hillary 1168, RonPaul 80782) tell a lot more.

    Because Oprah can endorse Obama, Lieberman can endorse McCain, but WE the people endorse Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:09 pm |
  603. Ken

    And why aren't the candidates who are leading in the polls able to raise this kind of money? Perhaps the polls are misleading.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:10 pm |
  604. jay

    time for big corrupt goverment to go, might as well starting packing!
    hope for AMERICA. Ron Paul REVOLUTION.
    jay in Kentucky

    December 17, 2007 at 6:10 pm |
  605. John Davis

    There are three types of polls.
    1. Telephone polls
    2. Straw polls
    3. Internet polls

    When mentioning "the polls", please refer to them accurately.

    Ron Paul is only lagging in one type of poll. He does well in the straw polls and internet polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:11 pm |
  606. Josh K

    I just wanted to thank you Jack for actually covering Ron Paul and exploring this issue (and even mentioning his name in viewer emails discussing other topics). You'd think that a candidate who wins so many straw polls, raises so much money, has the largest grass roots campaign, and people who are actually passionate about their cause, would be covered in the media and poll higher.

    I'm afraid everyone will be in for a rude awakening when Iowa and New Hampshire actually select their candidate. I'm not saying Ron Paul will be first, but I'm saying he will do much better then polls predict. The reason is simple – all the polls are heavily biased.

    Internet and text polls are biased towards those who are younger – typically those who may even just barely be registering in their parties, people who are "unlikely caucus voters" because they may never have even voted before – people who are likely to support Ron Paul.

    Despite telephone polls claim of being "scientific", they have a larger margin of error this election cycle because no poll predicts how many Ron Paul supporters will actually show up at the primaries. If you could predict how many Ron Paul supporters will show up, and how many of the other supporters will show up, you will have a better assessment.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:13 pm |
  607. Christy Johnson

    Don't ask yourself why Ron Paul is faring so poorly in the polls. Ask yourself why theres such a discrepancy between the online polls, and the polls that are displayed by the media. The internet is the last level playing field. Nobody owns it, and no one can censor it. Mainstream media on the other hand......you know as well as I do that it's owned and operated by bureaucrats that have their own agenda. I just hope the American people are smart enough to see through the manipulation, and do whats right for themselves AND the cause of liberty before we lose everything.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:13 pm |
  608. Dan

    Jack, it is shameful that Ron Paul isn't getting the amount of exposure he deserves, especially right after his record-breaking one-day fundraising victory. I find it interesting that CNN's Situation Room precedes this news with pieces like "Hillary flies in a helicopter!", "John Edwards waking up from his sleeping campaign!", and "Obama takes insults in stride!". Ron Paul just made political history and all I get from CNN is media-appointed top-candidate irrelevancies. Sounds like the fix is in.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:15 pm |
  609. Ben Bowman

    Try a little experiment. Mention Paul's name in the context of his presidential run once every hour in a positive light. If every show on CNN starts with a story about Ron Paul, and if every poll begins with his name, you will soon see what these polls measure. They do not measure Americans who are sick and tired of an unjust system and are likely to go out and vote to change it. Instead, they measure the big sweeping generality that is the typical TV addled American who will pull the lever for the first familiar name he has a good impression of.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:15 pm |
  610. Jimmy Crackhorn

    blah blah blah blah – it won't matter what I say – the polls are rigged, the media is corupt and biased, the Administration is looting and fleecing the American public, take your pick, the citizens are being had. This too shall pass, with about as much pain as a gall stone. Peak oil, fiat currency, federal debt, military industrial complex, police state, our government is corrupt and over reaching. We no longer live in "the greatest country on earth". They sold us down the river. Ron Paul as president is much less frightening an idea than any of the megalomaniacs that lead your polls running the show further into the muck we're waist deep in.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:16 pm |
  611. Russ Pierce

    I believe the reason Paul has set fund-raising records is because of how fervent his supporters are. People like myself, small government republicans that are sick and tired of our flawed foreign policy and excessive government spending, simply have no one else to vote for on either side. Paul is our only hope.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:17 pm |
  612. Sukrit Sabhlok

    Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls because the pollsters survey registered Republicans. The thing about Paul is that he's drawing people from all over the political spectrum - including Libertarians, Independents and Democrats. This means for any scientific poll you see, you could immediately add 4-5% to Paul's percentage, perhaps even more.

    As Paul says, "Freedom is popular".

    December 17, 2007 at 6:18 pm |
  613. jason

    well it looks to me like you got your answer........not that you didnt know already

    you of all people should know why.........im sure your asking because you believe in him too and like the rest of us knows he isnt getting a fair deal........but he will win anyway

    its time for the federal government and the MSM to know that they dont make the decisions for us anymore

    December 17, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  614. scott

    When it is all said and done, if RP does not win the presidency we will live in the North American Union have to exchange our worthless pieces of paper called US dollars in for another fiat curreny called the amero and we will no longer be us citizens, we will be governed by Kofi Annan at the UN and will live in the North American Union..

    By the way I got an e-mail the other day you will recieve 1 Amero for each four US Dollars you will give up to get one..

    So for the 1st graders out there that don't understand what is going..

    a candy bar costs 1 dollar today, 1 Amero will cost you 4 USD. That is four bucks for one Amero.. A 75% devaluation of your money..

    If you have 100,000 saved it will be worth $25,000..

    That is what Ron Paul is talking about

    North American Union
    SPP Security Prosperity Partnership
    The Amero
    Texas Trans Corridor

    This is why there is no border security..

    December 17, 2007 at 6:24 pm |
  615. Alex Libman

    They are only polling the "Dubya" fanclub from 2004! All Paul supporters I know personally didn't vote for Bush (nor, in most cases, for Kerry). And, like most young people today, they don't have land-line phones, just cellular and VoIP!

    And, on top of that, many instances of dishonest questioning have been documented, like excluding Paul in some key states! Some states where he's raising most money per capita and might poll in first place (AK, WY, ID) are being ignored completely! The mainstream media is giving him disproportionally little coverage... All this creates a self-fulfilling prophecy that he can't win, and it's an amazing show of strength that in spite of all that he's doing as well as he is, already breaking into double-digits in some states!

    What we have here is the perfect storm of "scientific" polling being completely inaccurate, and Rudy McRomneysonabee will be taken by surprise in the primaries, especially in libertarian-minded New Hampshire!

    Ron Paul is the only candidate who can beat Clinton in 2008, and he is the only candidate who can bring to the polls 10+ million of apathetic voters who hate politics and politicians, who haven't voted in years, and who only want the Federal Government to protect the borders, guard the coasts and the airspace, and aside from that just to leave them alone!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:24 pm |
  616. Mark Leclerc

    Even though I am a registered NH Repulican with a land line phone; nobody has ever called regarding their "poll". I challenge any citizen to forget the "Republican" vs. "Democrat" scam for 10 minutes and just think like an "American". Anyone who does this and looks into what his critics characterize as "kooky" remarks finds that there is in fact nothing "kooky" at all regarding Ron Paul's views, experience, or plans. He will return the rule of law and respect for our constitution back to Washington and the people. Thousands are discovering the Truth about the Fraud our country is suffing under since 1913 and the FACTS are becoming known thanks to the internet. Yes, people are waking up and we know who the real threats to our future are. So I will ask you this: "How is it possible that Ron Paul supporters can donate over $6 million to his campaign yesterday and today's "lead stories" are that the newpapers endorsed "pre-approved" candidate X, Y, or Z?" ALL, by the way, pre-screened card carrying members of the CFR. The MSM polls are meaningless when you contrast them to all other evidence...did you see the pictures on the net from the Santa Monica Pier Tea Party yesterday??? How did that event miss the "news"?

    December 17, 2007 at 6:25 pm |
  617. Brad

    As a proud American serving on active duty in the Air Force, I am rooting for Dr. Paul. The majority of the Republican base hates Dr. Paul on one issue, and one issue alone - the War in Iraq. However, over 50% of military donations that come in go to Dr. Paul. This should tell you something!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:26 pm |
  618. NINA

    Mainstream media is a joke. its like a psychological game if you ask me...The internet is a powerful thing all you have to do is navigate a little and you can find many interesting things that mainstream does not talk about
    I research Ron Paul daily and every poll i look at shows him winning mostly by a landslide. It particularly upsets me when people discredit him especially considering his consistency throughout his 10 congressional terms. In my opinion he has the most experience with politics than any candidate including a few past presidents combined.

    Let us not forget Martin Luther King, or JFK, or Princess Diana, or any person who ever tried to bring fourth change into the world... WAKE UP AMERICA youve been lied to by the elite so many times it disgusts me to even think there are this many naive or ignorant people who have become complacent in their little bubbles hoping no one will bother them while their freedoms are being stolen... as matter of fact those freedoms may as well have been given away. arent people tired of history repeating itself? No one up there really offers solutions problems except for RON PAUL.. I dont even agree with all the ways of Ron Paul, however, I agree with ALOT and even if i didnt, he is the only person up there worth my vote because of his integrity alone. I have been a registered voter for over 4 years and have not voted before because i refuse to vote for one of two people i do not like. Ron Paul makes me wanna jump out of my seat and wait in line for hours on end just to vote for him and if he fails at any of his attempts to fix what has been broken for so long, it will never be as disappointing as anyone else winning the election. RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008!!!!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:27 pm |
  619. Skye

    who says he wont. alot of people dont vote in these polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:27 pm |
  620. James Hansen

    That's a good question Jack. Why is Dr. Paul not higher in the polls? I honestly believe Dr. Paul is around 15%. College students amount to a huge part of his backing. You have to ask yourself when you were in college did you have a lan line? 90% of you would say no. I don't trust the polls they are showing. Dr. Paul wins most of the straw polls, has raised more money than any other republican candidate in the 4th quarter. Even if the polls are correct and Dr. Paul doesn't win the nomination, there is no way a pro war candidate can win if 70 percent of the american people want the war to end.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:28 pm |
  621. Yvette Rosser

    In Straw Polls conducted by local GOP organizers, Dr. Ron Paul wins them all.


    Why won't the MSM report this?!?!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:29 pm |
  622. BWCO4RP

    There is nothing I can add that has not already be said. That being said....

    If all Main Stream Media gave RP as much coverage time as the rest of the candidates his polling would shoot off the charts and his grassroots support would become unbelievable and even more unstoppable.

    The question becomes, who does not want this to happen?

    December 17, 2007 at 6:32 pm |
  623. Bob Fronabarger

    He doesn't poll higher...
    because of the mainstream media news-blackout on him!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:35 pm |
  624. yukonjohn3

    Here in Alaska, we love liberty. None of the "mainstream candidates" are anything different than what we already have! Polls and the national media have tried to do everything possible to eliminate RP as a viable candidate. Anyone that can raise money from so many people in one day, I think is not only a front-runner, but THE front-runner. I would be interested how many more mew Republicans have registered in the recent past. I think MOST of them are RP supporters. And as many on here have said, Dr. Paul's base WILL VOTE!! There is a new awakening in this country. It is a revolution and as a vet and a patriot I am honored to cast my lot with Rep. Dr. Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:36 pm |
  625. Blake

    I am a 38 year old father of 7, soon to be 8, I used to consider myself a Republican but gave that up 8 or so years ago due to the fact that the Republican party was just another party for big government. I will never forget the debate when GW Bush was facing off with Gore, and they both outlined what they planned to do about prescription drug prices. As it turned out, GW had a prescription drug plan that was supposed to cost something like $220B, and Gore had a prescription drug plan that was supposed to cost $240B....THOSE WERE MY CHOICES!!! Where was the candidate who said "Its unfortunate that some people can't afford the medicines they need, but it's not the function of government to provide for every need. The friends and families and communities should come up with their own local solutions to acquire medicine for those who can't afford it?" The two party system is a one party system in disguise. I have never given to a political candidate, and haven't cared which candidate won in any of the presidential elections of my adult life since the candidates seemed basically indistinguishable from each other. I have given to RP twice, and I will continue to give as much as I can afford, both in worthless paper US dollars, and my sweat and effort as a volunteer at some level. The government needs to be scaled back to a tiny fraction of what it currently is, and only RP seems to understand this. Finally, we haven't had a TV in our house for years, my wife and I get all our information from the internet, and it's great to watch the MSM losing it's grip on public opinion. The polls are biased and rigged, stop paying attention to the polls, pay attention to the new media, and to the signs and bumper stickers going up everywhere.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:38 pm |
  626. Joe

    As the other candidates start to run out of money, Ron Paul will be
    able to surpass them in the polls. Already he is using the funds to
    show an infomercial in Iowa. Meet the Press has realized the Ron Paul
    presence and is giving him a 1 hr block this Sunday. The more people
    that get to hear the complete Ron Paul message as opposed to the 30
    second sound bites, the more supporters he will have.

    I can't wait until we get through Iowa and New Hampshire. That is the
    real 1st Tier candidates will emerge.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:38 pm |
  627. Ivan Bakula

    First of all, his name simply does not show up as an option in most polls and ,second of all, most Republican polls only study people who registered Republican last election. But we all know that the Republican Party has shrunk as a result of Bush and other issues with the GOP. Many of Ron Paul's supporters are alienated Republicans, independents who hadn't heard of libertarianism, and Democrats who are upset with the inconsistent Dems and drawn to Ron Paul's strong anti-war stance. Obama and Hillary can't even promise to be out of Iraq by 2013.

    Cleveland, Ohio

    December 17, 2007 at 6:38 pm |
  628. Steve

    Jack, the polls are taken by companies calling known party voters. So polls regarding the Repub primary are taken among registered republicans. But most of Ron Paul's supporters are independants, or unregistered, or democrats who may have not yet registered as republicans.

    When the polls start reflecting ALL registered voters, you watch the numbers change. I have said for 2 decades that if ANYONE ever tried to win an election by telling the public the TRUTH about what is being done by our leaders, they would start a political movement, or even a revolution. Well,... voila.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:39 pm |
  629. Joe

    Ron Paul possibly doesn't get the support in the polls because the media, government, and societal elite are all the same. All other candidates have conflicting interests and are members of the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS. This is the same group that set out the report regarding a "North American Community" AKA North American Union. WAKE UP AMERICAN SHEEPLE!!! WAKE UP!!!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:39 pm |
  630. Dann Chapman

    We are coming.

    We have just begun to fight for our Freedom !

    Even if ( The Establishment ) rigs the poles or an unfortunate accident happens to Dr Paul.

    This revolution will not stop.

    Get use to it .

    Power 2 the 3ovL!!!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:41 pm |
  631. Robert Drake

    I'd love to live in a country with Ron Paul as its President. But alas, its not to be. I'm a Canadian and he's opposed to immigration. Opposing open immigration doesn't seem a very libertarian position to me.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:41 pm |
  632. Ian

    Easy...The polls are not accurate.

    Congressman Paul is the ONLY conservative in the race.

    Good job as usual Mr. Cafferty.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:43 pm |
  633. Paul Kwiatkowski

    There's nothing I can say that hasn't already been said.
    Bottom line: Ron Paul's support isn't properly portrayed via the present standard of "scientific polling".

    If he were truly at 5% support, would I have to scroll down for a full minute to get to the bottom of this comment page and make a reply myself?

    If he were at one in twenty supporting him, would my friends who moved to a different town phone me and mention how this HUGE parade went down their city streets for a guy they'd never heard of and suddenly were interested in?

    Lastly, if polls accurately judged support, and Dr. Paul gets public rallies, parades and $6 million at a mere 5%, wouldn't there be so many people celebrating he other candidates that I'd have someone outside my window right now telling me how great Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee is? You can be sure there isn't.

    It's not our fault that the media at large doesn't know how else to look for a candidate's support except in polls that don't allow for true democratic representation of the candidates. For pollsters, it is about to be a very unfortunate time to be overlooking Ron Paul. There is about to be egg on their face in a way not seen since the mess the media found itself in during the 2000 election.

    Thank you for doing segments about him, Mr. Cafferty. Things like this give me hope at the end of my day.

    Sugar Land, TX

    December 17, 2007 at 6:44 pm |
  634. Alex

    The mass media is manipulating all political events, including the Polls. This is no longer a secret for us.
    Ron Paul gets lots of money directly from ordinary american people. Why? Becouse RP said it clear that he is
    a champion of the US Constitution.
    The mass media "preffered" candidates are financially supported by big corporations, lobyists, ...
    Once a "preffered" candidate is elected president of the US by the votes of people, his actions as president
    will no longer represent the will of people.
    In order to please his financial benefactors, the "preffered" president will have to disregard the Constitution of US.
    And this is no longer acceptable for the majority of people who love this country first.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:45 pm |
  635. Chris Schuler

    1) The pollsters don’t include Ron Paul’s name.

    2) The pollsters only call people with landlines. Neither I, nor anybody else I know (apart from older relatives), has had a landline in their home since the 1900’s.

    3) They limit their poll to “likely primary voters”. There are several different “scientific” ways to determine who a “likely voter” is:

    3a) Many polls limit this definition to registered Republicans who voted in the 2004 primary. George Bush was pretty much unopposed for the 2004 nomination, so only the really hard-core Bush supports turned out to anoint his coronation (only about 6% of Republicans made it to the polls that year).

    3b) They assume that young people won’t vote, so they play with the numbers - They simply throw out the votes from most of the young people they call.

    3c) They assume that this 6% of voters are going to be representative of what the other 94% of the Republicans will do in 2008. This is seriously flawed logic. The President’s approval ratings are currently in the toilet (even among Republicans). By only polling Bush’s “hardcore” supporters, this leads to the false perception that the party will nominate a person with similar options as President Bush, at a time when the GOP desperately needs to chart a new course in order to avoid a landslide defeat to the Dems.

    4) At this early stage in the game, only about 5%-10% of Americans are paying attention to this primary race. Therefore, the polls are little more than name recognition tests. Paul’s name recognition (as of last month) was only about 10%-15%. This is pretty close to what he is posting in the polls. In other words, if you know who Ron Paul is, the odds are pretty good that you will support him.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:51 pm |
  636. steve

    Ron Paul is refreshing, Why you ask?
    We'll we have a man that has a new direction but of old ways, there is an old saying why fix it if it ain't broken? We'll if you can't see that the system isn't broken then keep voting for people like Rudy or Huckabee, but if you see we have lost our way and want to get back to our constitution then we need to fix what is broken.

    That's why I support Ron Paul

    December 17, 2007 at 6:52 pm |
  637. Michael

    Yes, you can check the straw polls. Ron Paul has ALL results posted on his website > RonPaul2008, com < weather he has won the poll or not. No other candidate does this. He displays the real time donations and donor names too. 24/7 for ANYONE to see. Ron Paul is running the most transparent campaign in American history. Another example of this mans honesty and integrity.

    People are starting to wake up to corporate media's games and irresponsibility. Fox News is ahead of the pack, they are hemmoraging as we read here. MSM is cutting it's own throat. We will NOT forget this!

    Keep ignoring us, it only makes our resolve stronger and our team bigger! The next "money bomb" will also be bigger than the last one, just like they have been all along.

    This is not a test, this is not a drill.......Ron Paul President in 2008!

    December 17, 2007 at 6:53 pm |
  638. Ivan

    Three simple steps for fair and accurate polling:

    1. Call a random sample from the pool of all 2004 registered voters, regardless of party.
    2. Ask each if they are currently registered Republican and are planning to vote in the primaries.
    3. If both are true, ask them who they are planning to vote for. Don't list the candidates just have them tell you.

    Although even the above excludes a fair part of Paul's base; Newly registered voters and cell phone users.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:53 pm |
  639. Dan Taylor

    First of all I think we all agree that the polls are flawed, for those who look into this issue it has been proven in a number of situations. I personally stumbled across a poll that had Ron Paul at 2% and when I go to ad my vote of course Ron Paul is not even an option. The other thing that makes me very frustrated is the fact that I just heard the situation room describe Ron Paul as "lacking support" but doing very well with money!?!?!? Well my question to the situation room is how in the world did Ron Paul manage to raise well over 18 million dollars if he's lacking support? How exactly are you measuring support? Sure Huckabee has had a surge in the polls, but he has no money. I think we should question huckabee's support or every other candidate for that matter before Ron Paul's. Or is this just another attempt to dicredit him? Also the surge that Huckabee has had in SC made news when he went from around 8% to 23% which is a 300% increase, certainly news worthy. The same poll shows RP went from 2% to 11%, a 500% increase!!!! I just thought that was worth mentioning as well.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:57 pm |
  640. Kristine Rhodes

    The elites are trying to tell us what to think and for those of who us, who went online and did our own research, we found out that Ron Paul isn't a candidate that's quiet and stand offish. He fights with words of freedom and truth–what people don't realize is that the polls are not scientific at all what so ever and in many cases some telephone polls don't even give the option to even vote for Ron Paul. My point to America is, STOP letting the TV do your thinking for you. Be critical, this is YOUR vote NOT the mainstream media's vote. Like my husband said, "Don't be an impulsive buyer, do some research before you choose."

    December 17, 2007 at 6:59 pm |
  641. Eli Breeskin

    Just look at your reporting today...you will answer your own question. You've spent all day covering the Lieberman endorsement when the real news is that over 58,000 people endorsed Ron Paul yesterday and backed it with their wallets. This deserves more then just a 30 second announcement.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:04 pm |
  642. Mary Tampa, FL

    He's not higher in the polls because he is not part of the corporatocracy that rules this country. Corporations are sitting in the white house and also the congress & the senate and they are making our decisions and reporting our news. That is why after 35 years as a democrat I have switched to republican so I could vote for Dr. Paul. He has never been bought by lobbyists or special interests. I don't know about all of you but personally, I would like to see President Paul put lobbyists out on the streets as one of his first tasks. I have never before given monetarily to a candidate in my life but I have been following this gentleman since he voted against the "Iraq War for Oil" and I have researched him. I could not believe my eyes, this man was not like any politician I have ever seen. He is honest, ethical, hard working, patriotic and extremely intelligent. He also studied economics and you should hear him discuss the financial state of our country. His brutal honesty is exactly what this country needs. Our America is wounded and bleeding profusely and Dr. Paul is the only one that can heal this wound. Please America, GOOGLE RON PAUL, get to know him, I am sure you will thank yourself.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:05 pm |
  643. Mark W

    This is a little off topic, but people dwell on the fact that Ron Paul has a big internet following. Truth is Ron Paul has a great message and the internet is the only place that message seems to be getting out. Whats wrong with the Polls? The Media? The GOP? What is wrong with them to not pick this information up and run with it?

    December 17, 2007 at 7:05 pm |
  644. Steven Ruman

    how many times has his named been mentioned on tv compared to other candidates with 'higher' poll numbers?

    polls are nothing but name recognition

    ask REAL questions on the polls and not just names

    December 17, 2007 at 7:06 pm |
  645. Jimmy

    Way to go Jack!!! Good to see reporters who are above the rule of the Council on Foreign Relations establishment/One World government elite. Ron Paul will be a force to be reckoned with. The American people are no longer allowing our candidates to be hand-picked by the elitists. Ron Paul tells the truth, and he will get the CFR filth which has infiltrated the US out of the white house.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:06 pm |
  646. Martina from Indiana

    You ask "If he has so much support to gain $6M in a day, why isn't he polling higher?" Most people still haven't heard Dr Paul's name! The question should instead be "Why, if Dr Paul is the highest GOP fundraising candidate, doesn't the media report on him more often?" Perhaps you guys should look in the mirror for the low name recognition and low poll numbers. It's a real shame that the old media's corporate owned interests wish Ron Paul could be silenced. They don't even realize they're losing more and more relevance every day as more people turn to the internet for news. The more the media ignores Dr Paul, the more his supporters work to get his name out. Ignore him at your own peril 😉

    December 17, 2007 at 7:06 pm |
  647. Kristina Love

    Dear Mr. Cafferty,

    I am writing to respond to the question you raised tonight.

    Thank you for your report on Ron Paul "The Six Million Dollar Man" and the Boston Tea Party fundraiser that his supporters put together.

    You and Lou Dobbs are the only anchors on CNN I consider to be honest, forthright human beings. As an American Ron Paul supporter, this election cycle has for the first time placed me in the position of knowing certain facts to be true from first-hand experience, and seeing these facts distorted, mis-reported, and conspicuously omitted all over the news. It has been an unpleasant shock for tens or hundreds of thousands of us.

    I am so tired of the worn-out catch phrase repeated over and over on the news: "How will Ron Paul *translate* this fundraising ability/internet success/grassroots support/etc. into REAL votes?"

    I noticed that on this afternoon's broadcast, your fellow anchor misinterpreted your intriguing question, and acted as if you had obediently repeated this most oft-recycled, pre-approved "buzz-question." It is designed (clumsily, obviously) to cast doubt and skepticism where there is no *particular* reason to have any – certainly no more than the normal amount. Isn't it more natural to presume that whatever Ron Paul's chances were before [fill-in-the-blank-success], the aforementioned success sure won't hurt? Here is a more logical question: "How will the other candidates besides Ron Paul *translate* their fundraising impotence, internet incompetence, and complete lack of grassroots support into REAL votes???" However, the clear answer (that they don't represent the citizens, and they are beholden to corporations and special interest groups) makes the LOGICAL question dangerously leading.

    However, your intelligent, unbiased question was: If Ron Paul can raise $6 million dollars in 24 hours, why is he still polling in the single digits?

    The answer is very simple: The national polls (sometimes called the "scientific" polls, which, incidentally, there is no such thing as) do not reflect Dr. Paul's true level of voter support.

    First of all, is it possible that both the fundraising total and the polling numbers, which conflict with each other, could accurately reflect Ron Paul's support?

    I think that they could, but only if Ron Paul's donors were extremely wealthy and few in number, and all of them contributed the maximum. In that case, the high fundraising total coupled with Ron Paul polling in the single digits would make sense.

    The $6 million dollar figure represents 58,000 mostly small, individual donors (median donation amount: $50). The $6 million dollars in donations are not "pledges" (as was inaccurately reported on CNN yesterday), but credit card receipts.

    So, either the money accurately reflects Ron Paul's support, or the "scientific" polls do. The money can be checked, re-checked, and proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. The national polls on the other hand, have enjoyed blind faith from the entire news media, and have totally escaped public scrutiny.

    These polls may have been reliable indicators in past elections; this one is different. Now to really answer your question.

    Ron Paul voters are not being measured in the national polls for the following reasons:

    The phone lists for these polls contain names of people who are deemed (by someone, I don't know who) "likely voters" based on the fact that they voted Republican in the last election. ]
    Much or most of Ron Paul's voters will be:
    A) Republicans who did not vote in the last election because they were disgusted by the actions of the Bush administration.
    B) Ex-Republicans who left the party at some point in time and joined another, registered as independents, or disengaged from the political process.
    C) People between the ages of 18-24 who have never voted in the past (but WILL NOW).
    D) Other Independents, Democrats, Libertarians, Greens, Reform Party members, Constitutionalists, etc. who plan to, or who have already changed their party affiliation on their voter registration to "REPUBLICAN" for the sole purpose of voting for Ron Paul so that he can win both the nomination and the presidency (yes, they will vote in the primaries as well.)
    E) Cell phone users who use their cell as their primary phone number and do not have a landline.
    And, finally:
    F) Previously apathetic non-voters who have gone years without participating in the process, or who have never done so. (An example of this type of person is Trevor Lyman, the man who organized both the November 5th and the Boston Tea Party (December 16th) historic fundraisers. He has never voted before in his life.)

    Mr. Cafferty, I hope this makes things clear. For more information about how much support Ron Paul actually has, or whether he has a real shot at winning the White House, please visit the website http://www.thecaseforronpaul.com. Did you know that Ron Paul has finished FIRST PLACE in 54% of the straw polls so far, many of them by a huge landslide? Did you know he has finished in the top three in 83% of them? Did anyone in the mainstream media know? It doesn't seem like it. If any of the other candidates had achieved such a success, it would have made BIG news.

    Thank you for presenting news in a fair fashion. I hope that you and more journalists will continue to try to equalize the amount of coverage and respect paid to all of the presidential candidates, for the sake of the American people.


    Kristina Love

    December 17, 2007 at 7:07 pm |
  648. Eric Hofmaenner

    Jack, if you want to know why Ron Paul is not higher in the polls simply stop and ask if the mainstream media has given him enough attention?! We all know he does not get as much coverage as the other Republican hopefuls… CNN is doing much better mentioning him now than in the weeks and months past – great job spreading his message – keep it up! Now help your colleagues in the mainstream media also mention Ron Paul and we’ll really gain some traction and even more momentum! Just give him fair coverage and his message will do the rest of the work! If people learn of his policies and what he stands for, he will win the primary and general election, hands down. Our biggest problem is that all people hear about on CNN, FOX, NBC news is Huckabee, Romney, Hillary, and Obama. Thank you for continuing to mention him and his campaign efforts. GO RON PAUL!

    December 17, 2007 at 7:09 pm |
  649. Doug D

    The polls are inaccurate on three levels.

    First, they don't reach those who only have cell phones, and they don't reach those with caller ID who don't pick up the phone for telemarketers. Both groups have more than the national average of Ron Paul supporters.

    Second, they try to predict likely primary voters, based on who turned out last time. It's the same as the old generals always preparing to fight the last war instead of the next one. Ron Paul is bringing new people into the primary process, in droves.

    The third reason is the most important, and the most overlooked: People simply haven't decided yet. They pull a name out of their hat to get the pollster off the phone, most likely one they hear on TV a lot. When it's really time to vote, they will be better prepared. They might even look on the Internet to research the candidates. (Guess what they will find if they do.)

    Mike Huckabee was where Ron Paul is in the polls, just a few weeks ago. Yet the media continues to treat the polls as if they are votes in the ballot box, rather than a weathervane shifting directions in the wind.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:12 pm |
  650. Scott Masters

    Ron Paul is being censored by the MSM because his return to constitutional prinicples is a threat to the ruling classes in our society, e.g. those classes have arisen because of the integration of economy and state. Dr. Paul knows that we need separation of economy and state for all the same reasons we have separation of church and state.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:13 pm |
  651. Mike

    Ron Paul's supporters are extremely dedicated and the most likely to donate because he is the best candidate and this inspires people, but among the majority of the population who are not politically active, the other candidates have more name recognition. Why? Because the media gives Ron Paul's competition FAR more attention than him. As CNN reported (thank you), the media-tracking company VMS found that from August 2006 to August 2007, John McCain was mentioned over 95,000 times. Ron Paul? less than 5,000 times. It is difficult for a candidate to compete when his competitions gets millions of dollars more free advertising than him from the media.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:14 pm |
  652. Brandon Stafford

    Thanks So much for talking about Ron Paul you seem to be the only guy out there that will. One reason Ron Paul isn't high in the polls it because American people don't like to hear the truth they only want to hear lies. Most people think Ron Paul is crazy but once you really read what hes for your say to your self that's not so crazy. people need to stop listing to what the media says its 90% lies they are just trying to get you to vote for who they want to win. I think some people are going to be in for a surprise when the voting begins. lets vote for Ron Paul everyone!

    December 17, 2007 at 7:14 pm |
  653. Louise

    As stated, candidates that are continuously exposed through MSM outlets have name recognition among voters, but little else. I agree with the exhortation of James K - "news outlets" should provide viewers with a meaningful representation of a candidates views rather than useless poll numbers. Then there are "so called" news outlets (cough * CBS) that allow each candidate to answer questions that are relevant to the viewers and they censor Ron Paul. Hmmm... why doesn't Ron Paul poll higher among people that are watching the MSM??

    December 17, 2007 at 7:16 pm |
  654. Jose Pestano

    I have been saving up to buy a beautiful Guitar for a while... now, that is going to have to wait a couple more years. Go to make sure my Gibson Ron Paul rocks on!!!!!

    We are the new Army... join the rEVOLution!!!!!
    Ron Paul smokes them all! I

    December 17, 2007 at 7:19 pm |
  655. Stop the nwo

    One word, NWO.

    People are finally waking up.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:19 pm |
  656. steve


    The media distortions are like all the distortions.

    This is why Ron Pauls popularity is all about. This is what made America. The people. The U.S. needs Ron Paul.

    God help us without him. Time is running out -quickly.

    People just don't realize it.. It is stealth.

    God Bless Ron Paul

    December 17, 2007 at 7:20 pm |
  657. Glen in Petaluma

    I think Ron Paul hasn't received higher poll numbers so far because his political message is boring from a journalist's point of view. A smaller Federal government isn't sexy from a news perspective. It is boring to do less. Therefore, he hasn't received the same attention or is written off as the leader of people with fringe opinions.

    Personally, I think it is just about the most exciting thing ever. In my opinion, our country has become what we fought to get away from. We've become the very thing we rebelled against. That's not to say we don't need a government or social programs. Ron Paul promotes pushing the authority and responsibility to the states ...and the communities...and the families...and the people - where it belongs. We can still have education, health, and other programs. They just won't be run by the Federal government. The Constitution is a very limiting document.

    Finally, I think that a vote for anyone other than Ron Paul is a vote for the status quo.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:21 pm |
  658. Art B.

    Ron Paul has more character, honesty and integrity than most of the other candidates combined. The fact that he does not feed at the public trough for his personal benefit or his constituents is all you need to know.
    He realizes that in all of the areas that big government has gotten involved in our lives it has caused massive problems. The war on drugs, war on poverty, healthcare, foreign wars anything the government touches usually gets ruined. The cure to these problems is not more govenment involvement but less. More freedom will allow us and force us to solve our own problems and not rely on an imputent government full of empty promises. God Bless Ron Paul to remind us what the founding fathers new when they started this country and wrote the constitution.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:23 pm |
  659. Nick

    Jack, a better question is "why is it a question this year?". Has CNN forgotten that, on this date in 2003, John Kerry was polling lower nationally than Ron Paul is now? Has CNN fogotten that, on the day before the NH primary in 2004 (which Kerry won), Kerry was only polling at 7% in NH? Paul is polling higher in NH today than Kerry was the day before he won the states primary and there are still two weeks left. The real question you should be asking is "Why is the media putting so much importance on polls this year when those very same polls have been meaningless in the past?". Especially in a scenario where every other piece of data says the polls are wrong. I refuse to believe the US media is stupid so the real question is, who keeps telling you guys to emphasize these poll numbers?

    December 17, 2007 at 7:24 pm |
  660. Kenny Grimm

    Looks like you already have 635 answers and a lot of them sum it up. I just want to say that you are the media hero of the Ron Paul campaign. There are a few great videos up on youtube of Ron Paul that have some clips of you speaking about him and you have given the revolution the attention and respect that it deserves. Thank you Jack, keep up the great work, I always pay attention now when you are on cnn.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:27 pm |
  661. Alan

    The Situation Room today is the best example of why Ron Paul doesn't poll higher. His grassroots supporters raised $6 million after raising $4.3 in a single day last month. He has more real support than any other candidate and will probably raise the most money in the 4th quarter, maybe even more than Hillary who has sold every last sliver of her soul to get where she is. Despite this, what did I see today?

    You talked about Hillary, Huckabee, Bill Clinton, Obama, Rudy, and then back to Hillary because has ingeniously found a way to move from one city to another. A helicopter. Her campaign managers must be absolute geniuses to have figured out that a helicopter is faster than an Escalade. Not only that but CNN is just flabbergasted and how cool is it that we can call it a Hill-ocopter insead. Wow! Catchy.

    Not to worry, we got to hear that Ron Paul raised 6 million bucks in a day. Yawn.

    Then we got to watch for 5 minutes as people tried to catch a bird in a press room. I have to tell you that I was on the edge of my seat. By the way, there was a bird loose in the produce section of my grocery store last week, you should have sent camera crews. It was really a spectacle.

    A bird inside a building is far more newsworthy than an honest politician who has people not affiliated with his organization raise over $20 million dollars in a quarter.

    Do you think you can cover the kinds of coffee the candidates like again? I forgot which was which? Who likes cream and who likes it black? Seriously, a follow up on that story and the bird is a must.

    Jack, I love your spots. You were as apalled by the coffee story as I was. I feel sorry for you for being part of the Ron Paul blackout at all costs. I'll try to catch your clips on YouTube because tonight was the last time that I will ever watch the Situation Room or any other show on CNN unless you guys decide to host another sham of a debate. I'll watch that. I know I won't like it. But I'll watch it.

    Good luck Jack and keep injecting as much honesty as you're allowed to.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:32 pm |
  662. maxwell

    Thank you Mr. Cafferty for a fair and honest report. Unfortunately, your fair reporting on Ron Paul is the exception rather than the rule. It seems, for some reason, that most of the media has an unfair, negative attitude towards Dr. Paul. I must say that I don't truly understand it, but I have seen it with my own eyes. Maybe he is a threat to the establishment or maybe they are afraid of some of the changes he would implement. Whatever the reason, it is absolutely clear that the media has engaged in a concerted effort to minimize and ridicule Dr. Ron Paul. They use words to describe him that they do not use for any other candidates. Some examples are: "fringe, long-shot, can't win, third-tier, isolationist, radical, etc." And I also believe that the polls which are publicized are flawed and/or manipulated. I say this because I have seen for myself the large amount of support this man has. Many of the polls taken don't even include his name at all. How much more biased can you get than that. Thanks again and keep up the good work!

    December 17, 2007 at 7:33 pm |
  663. Josh

    The reason why he isn't higher in the traditional polls is quite simple and the answer is threefold:

    Most polls (such as the Gallop) are based on "likely Republican Primary/Caucus voters." Who are the individuals who voted in the last Presidential Primaries/Caucuses. Take Iowa for example: there were roughly 11,000 people who voted Republican in the Iowa Caucus in 2004 (ref. http://elections.gmu.edu/Voter_Turnout_2004_Primaries.htm) which is 9% of the Democratic turnout of 122,000. Those are the individuals who are polled and those individuals were out in support of a Pro-War candidate. It is reasonable to assume that Ron Paul would receive what the polls predict among those voters, roughly 6%. However, consider that in 2000 (as well as most Iowa caucuses) 86,000 Republicans came out to vote for a Pro-Peace candidate, which was the platform that Bush had run on in 2000. These individuals are not polled today. If Ron Paul receives only 6% of those votes as he's being polled (though likely he'll receive a great deal more) and the current Iowa leader receives 34% of the 2000 voters Ron Paul would win by a considerable margin (roughly 50% of the total votes cast).

    Current polling laws/systems get more inaccurate every year and this has a great deal to do with the change in technology trends among the populace. It is against the law to use an autodialing system to call a cell phone and this, coupled with some other restrictive laws, create a result where polling agencies only poll LAN line phones. According to the FCC in 2005 the number of Cell Phone lines officially surpassed the number of LAN lines in the US and many studies also show a considerable increase in the number of individuals who only use cell phones. This is particularly prevalent among college age individuals where Ron Paul has a very strong following. This surely makes up an additional discrepency that currently has no real solution among polling systems.

    Probably the most apparent discrepancy to Ron Paul supporters among the current polling system is that it does not account for the masses of individuals who had been registered under another party or who had not been registered at all newly registering as Republicans. It is not uncommon to see Ron Paul signs that read something like "Ron Paul has cured my apathy." These individuals typically were not involved in our election system and have since registered as Republicans for the strict purpose of voting for Ron Paul.

    It will be very interesting to see the shocked looks when Ron Paul far far exceeds the current polling data in the coming year.

    Josh of Portland, Oregon

    December 17, 2007 at 7:34 pm |
  664. Johnny Schmidt

    The reason he is not high in "the polls" is because "the polls" are handpicked for results that the mainstream media wants. The medium is the message. The message is "your vote is either for hillary or guiliani or maybe huckabee...". Fascorporato controlled media complex.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:44 pm |
  665. Tammy Miller

    The polls are not capturing many of the Ron Paul voters – democrats, independents, people who haven't recently voted. However, the Ron Paul faithful are continuing to share their love of the man and his integrity. More importantly, Ron Paul voters are devout and will vote for him on election day. The Republican Party is stupid to not recognize these new Republican voters by supporting Ron Paul. Plus, several analysts think Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate who can win next year.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:44 pm |
  666. Johann

    Why? Polls are flawed. Go to you tube and do a search for "ron paul telephone poll" there is an audio only file on an answering machine. It first lists Ron Paul as number 6 then they repeat the selection again and number 6 turns into non of the above. Huh?

    December 17, 2007 at 7:45 pm |
  667. Niki Way

    This will be the first presidential election in which I am old enough to vote. My vote will be going for Dr. Ron Paul.
    I have never participated in an online poll because I don't really hear a lot of positive feedback.
    On December 16th however, I participated along with 58,406 other people in the Ron Paul Tea Party that helped raise his $6 million. (ronpaul2008.com)
    Perhaps the reason he is lower in the online polls is because we, his supporters, are out promoting him instead of sitting at home waiting for his percentage bar to increase.
    Thank you.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:46 pm |
  668. Daniel

    Maybe we should ask how somebody low in the polls can raise that much money? A true second or third tier candidate could never raise that much money from so many individual contributers.
    We have to look at the methodology the pollsters use. One would quickly realize that the pollsters carefully select their target audience in order to get the results they want. Fact is that this is a movement we haven't seen in over 200 years. The Elites and the neocons can ignore this all they want but it only grows stronger.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:46 pm |
  669. Charles Peck

    Everytime we respond to a poll and Ron Paul wins bigtime we are accused of spamming the site. The people in this country really should wake up and smell the coffee. We are going down the tubes as a free nation and we can either elect another candidate that will give us a lot of words and no meaningful action, or we can elect Ron Paul who will make significant and lasting changes.

    I am retired and was basically sitting around waiting to grow old and die when my son asked me to "Google Ron Paul". I found a guy who shared every opinion about what has been happening in this country for the last thirty years that I have.

    I want my kids to have a future to look forward to, not a future filled with debt caused by the nanny state and bankrupt by paranoid warlords like Bush.

    The MSM refuses to accept the fact that the Ron Paul Revolution isn't about Ron Paul. It is about the Constitution and the Liberty and Freedom that it guarantees.

    This will not end hear. Once we disinfect the white house, the Congress is next. They have an even worse approval rating the Bush. They will either abandon the Corporatocracy and represent the people that elected them, or start updating their resumes.

    We have had enough "Business as Usual.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:48 pm |
  670. Christine

    My hypothesis revolves around the human psyche:
    1) The ego is terrified of being laughed at; most of us would rather stay mainstream, and
    2) The ego prefers the safety of that which is familiar to that which is unknown.

    It took the U.S. many generations to reach the colossal levels of indifference and apathy we see in the citizens today. Unfortunately, it may take a few more generations to regain our humanity.

    On a personal note, a spiritual giant like Ron Paul brings out the very best in those who do open themselves to his message. And when a man's heart is opened like this, money that is not used for a great cause suddenly becomes worthless.

    Reno, Nevada

    December 17, 2007 at 7:48 pm |
  671. Pat Kerby, Pahrump, Nevada

    Do you know that feeling you get when you hear the national anthem (I'm talking about the whitney houston version, not Roseanne). That tingly feeling that swells up inside you, and chokes you up and brings water to your eyes. It is an uncontrolable, visceral reaction to freedom, and the pride you feel living in a country that is honorable and just, and the beacon of liberty to the world.

    The problem is, we don't live in that country anymore. Our government has twisted and corrupted this country into something that we are no longer proud of. Well that feeling has been awakened in a lot of us, and there are thousands more every day. Ron Paul has awakened the american spirit. there is a revolution going on, and the main stream media is missing it.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:53 pm |
  672. Lino

    I too am perplexed by the low Poll numbers of Ron Paul. He is the genuine article. I don't understand polling methods and caucasses and primaries. I am an immigrant from Canada but I am loving watching Ron Paul confound the press. We will have to wait for Iowa to see if his following translates on the ground with caucass votes.
    You Mr Cafferty are to be commended for your very fair coverage of Dr Paul. We need more of you in the media and not just the sycophants that we typically see.

    Thank you so much


    December 17, 2007 at 7:53 pm |
  673. littlewolf

    Dr. Paul is not higher in the polls because most Americans do not know who he is or the ideals for which he stands. Most of his positions would resonate with the majority of Americans-who are neither GOP lovers or contented with the sham that is the current Democratic party. His opponents, and the major media outlets paint him as a "crazy extremist" not realizing that until the cult of personality took over (read the Power principle by Blaine Lee)–the ideas Ron proposes are what this country has been founded on-and what great men and women took to heart here for 200 yrs.

    Ron realizes how difficult it is to run as an independent-the primaries/ballot system is stacked against you. How sad in a free and democratic country. And the fearmongers in the GOP, and the money hungry in the republican party-are angered by his common sense aproach-by his shedding light on their misdeeds-and his no-nonsense step by step plans to fix what is broken in our government.

    As for the dems-you promised to get us out of iraq and failed. You promised to overturn the patriot act and ensure civil liberties for all Americans and you failed. We have a 9 trillion dollar debt, and no one but Ron Paul has a plan to deal with our economic downward spiral. Are we so blind that we cannot see how huge of an issue this is?

    December 17, 2007 at 7:55 pm |
  674. UncleJessy

    Like many have said already, the national polls are often unfair. They either group him with the "other" category, or not including him at all. Some evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSYiUAaBd1U
    A simple youtube search for Ron Paul Poll Fraud will yield such results.

    December 17, 2007 at 7:57 pm |
  675. Russ Wittenberg

    The Establishment R's&D"s,(republicrates) The "White House" and the MSM are all part of a Crime Syndicate possing as a Government! The MSM is their great Enabler!This whole cabal is orchastrated by the "Puppet-Masters" (The international Zionist Banksters & their lackeys) who all hate Ron Paul because He stands for America First instead of Israel. His stand to eliminate the Illegal Fed. income tax, the Illegal Fed Res. & Foreign Aid to Israel have the Zionist puppet master's in a state of panic! Wake up America, Ron Paul is our LAST CHANCE to save our country! Support & vote 4 Ron Paul!!!!! Capt. Russ

    December 17, 2007 at 8:00 pm |
  676. Charlie

    I just wanted to respond to Robert Drake from Canada. Ron Paul is not against immigration, just illlegal immigration. Go through the proper channels and we'll be glad to have you as a fellow American under a Paul administration.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:01 pm |
  677. Ruth Blameuser

    The internet is more real than the polls. Regular people who never get calls from polsters are taking advantage of the only media which gives them a voice in the political process. It is a campaign BY the people for a man who is FOR the people, not the big money behind the other candidates. America is waking up. Ron Paul's revolution is a fight for liberty, prosperity, security, and our wonderful, timeless constitution. We are NOT going to let big media decide who is electable, based on style and image and conformity to artificial mainstream party values. Ron Paul is a threat to corporations who profit from the status quo, who own the media. That's why he is marginalized, ignored, spun as a long shot fringe candidate with no chance of winning by the mainstream media. We thinking people know better. Just you wait. A new day has dawned for our democratic process. Thank God for the internet. It gives us a voice, and defies the media "spin" which deliberately suppresses truth and favors those who don't really challenge the status quo. We are leveling the playing field by posting comments which spin in favor of Ron Paul, a true patriot, conservative, REPUBLICan in every sense of the word. Go America!!

    December 17, 2007 at 8:02 pm |
  678. George

    Ron is not higher in the polls because for one when they call you his name is not one of the choices. They apparently only call voters from the last Republican primary, of which I for instance am not one ( I changed my registration this year from Democrat to Republican just so I can vote for Ron in the primary).

    Cafferty, if you feel inspired to do our country a service, use your media power to expose the above. It only limits all American's choices.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:02 pm |
  679. Joe Plummer

    Nobody will vote for a candidate they've never heard of. For decades now, the Establishment Media has played a game: It "chooses" the candidates that will be talked about, and then the masses "choose" among those "pre-selected" individuals. Fortunately, the Internet is eroding that information monopoly...look no further than Ron's "Tea Party" for proof. (-How much would Dr. Paul have raised on the 16th if his supporters relied only on the "Mainstream Media" to spread awareness of the event?) Whatever Ron's "poll numbers" might be, keep in mind that damn near EVERY SINGLE Ron Paul supporter WILL show up to vote in the primaries. So who wins? -A person like Romney, who supposedly has the support of 25% of “likely voters” (out of which, only 10% will come out and vote) or Ron Paul who supposedly has only 10% of “likely voters” (out of which, 100% will come out and vote?) …The polls have NEVER accurately reflected the strength Ron Paul’s campaign…we’ve proved it in every other respect, and we’ll prove it again come Election Day.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:05 pm |
  680. Jason VanDeven

    Isn't it exciting how Americans are re-investing themselves into the political process, so long abandoned to pundits and back-room power brokers? Isn't the American voters' apathy the very thing that the once honest media lamented on their opinion pages after record low voter turn-outs elected lesser-of-the-evil candidates to high office by ridiculously slim, suspect margins? Are these not the days that we have been dreaming about? A time when at least one man stands up and voices a philosophy that we were all taught to believe, that We the People are the Power in the United States of America? A time when the voice of one man is echoed at first by only a few, then by thousands of other American voices that cry out, Give Me My Country Back! While a jaded MSM fills the airwaves and lavishes ink on a Dem endorsing a has-been Rep, or a former Prez stumping for his might-have-been wife, front-runner crocodile tears, a dog-mutilating son of a prickly hickster, We the People use the means we can to generate and maintain our enthusiasm for an honest-to-God real man of the People by blogging, commenting, sharing and donating in record numbers that get no news coverage. I suppose that 234 years ago the Times of London or its sister edition in the American colonies had little to say about the Boston Tea Party, but you can be sure that is was the rage of conversation in the coffee houses in every village throughout the land. And today's BTP event? Can't find it on CNN, Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT, WaPo, LAT, Heralds or Tribs? Just look for it, and Dr Paul's message, as it is spread via blogs and chatrooms, the 21st version of colonial era coffee houses. That's where the revolution started. That's where it's gaining momemtum. And that's where, We the People, are today. Our faces may be basking in the pixel glow of our computers, but at the same time, we're putting on our boots.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:05 pm |
  681. Brian

    Everyone else has already answered it.

    I'd just like to add: if Rudy McRomspsonabee raised a few million in one day it would be front page, top story news all over the place and it would be "proof" that they could win. I'm not saying there's a clear and present bias BUT...

    December 17, 2007 at 8:07 pm |

    The controlled media.

    Elitists determine who the president ought to be and they make you think you have a choice.

    Recent Huckabee exposure should be evidence of this.

    Huckabee has no money to compete with only a few hundred thousand in the bank.
    But so long as they trumpet him, he'll be seen and fed to the dumb masses who think he is a conservative when he's not.

    He's a slick preacher who has co-opted many of Ron's ideas.

    I just got a lousy push-poll from his people....they did not even include Ron.

    You can ignore Ron all you want, but WE ARE OUT THERE IN NUMBERS and WE WILL VOTE.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:12 pm |
  683. Owen

    I have yet to be polled. I vote Republican. I slip under the polling radar yet I am a very active Ron Paul supporter and lead a very active and growing group of supporters who place signs, run ads, buy and pass out literature, send post cards, donate, and expose others to his message of freedom.

    Our group consists of Republicans, Democrats, Independents, and the great sleeper in this race – People who haven't voted in years if ever.

    Ron Paul's win won't be the first time the polls get it wrong.

    Perhaps the question should be how can the poll leaders turn out so few at rallies, fund raisers, and money raised?

    December 17, 2007 at 8:12 pm |
  684. Alex Oliver

    If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he’s not higher in the polls?

    If you don't trust the government to collect votes, why would you trust special interests to poll opinion? The only automated polling call I've received didn't mention Ron Paul, I had to select other to place a vote.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:15 pm |
  685. Mal

    First of all, let me thank you Jack for having the courage to speak the truth. I have listened to you comments a few times on Youtube and you are one of the few in the media with courage.

    Now, Ron Paul:

    If the U.S administration and media can fix an election like they did in 2000 then surely they can stitch up a poll or two.

    Ron Paul's message is greater than the individual. That is what is attractive. The people were drawn to the message. They've had enough of the current staus quo.

    I am in Ireland and am one of many 1000s of Ron Paul supporters throughout the world.

    Thanks for the opportunity to add my comments

    December 17, 2007 at 8:16 pm |
  686. Marcus Fedler


    Thank you Thank you Thank you....Ron Paul is the only candidate running in this election that has the interests of the American People at heart.

    Ron Paul is the anti-establishment candidate. The polls are created by the establishment. The Main Stream Media is controlled by the establishment. Who owns Fox, CBS, NBC, CBS, ABC? Who owns the companies that own Fox, CBS, NBC, CBS, ABC? Who benefits from the corporate welfare programs created by the establishment candidates?

    The polls are created with questions that provide the answers the poll creators want to hear.

    Thank you again!
    Ron Paul 2008!
    Marcus J Fedler – Ron Cured My Apathy.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:17 pm |
  687. John Howard

    We'll continue after this brief message:
    Due to our perfectly sensible policy of only giving attention to candidates who have name recognition due to our policy of giving them attention, we are unable to give attention to any candidates who do not have name recognition due to our not giving them any attention. Thank you for your understanding. -MSM

    December 17, 2007 at 8:19 pm |
  688. John Howard

    Ron Paul cannot win and this I surely know. It's true and can't be doubted, since the TV tells me so.

    If Ron Paul wins a poll, then it's spam and just for show. Should he lose, it's scientific. The TV tells me so.


    December 17, 2007 at 8:21 pm |
  689. Corey Tallent


    In the polls over the telephone, it is important to know that Ron Paul's name is not even in the list of options the taped recording gives. Ron Paul simply falls under the "other candidate" category. Don't think it's true? Check on Youtube for the actual polling call recordings. Dr. Paul has even said himself that he is not named in the polling phone calls. This is clearly the reason for low poll numbers. It's funny that on a day where Ron Paul sets a fundraising record that all you hear about in the media is Mike Huckabee's recent rise in the polls. Jack, I know you are a good man who still fights for what is right in this world, and I challange you to help the great American cause in any way you can.

    Corey Tallent

    Champaign, IL

    December 17, 2007 at 8:21 pm |
  690. Daren Miller

    Mr. Cafferty,

    In response to your question:
    If Ron Paul can raise $6 Million in one day, why is he not higher in the polls?

    I know of two contributing factors.

    1.) The Primary Election telephone polling call lists are comprised of the 2004 Primary Election voters. As the incumbent, President Bush was guaranteed the nomination, so the election voter numbers were low in 2004, and mostly supporters of President Bush. These are the voters nationwide being polled for this Primary.

    2.) View this short two minute video and recorded polling call. You'll see that Dr. Paul's name is not one of the five listed. In addition, when the number 6 is selected, rather than entering a vote for "Other or None of the Above", the automated system removes you permanently from the list, as if the number 7 was selected.

    Between a censored polling list, and censored entries, one should not be surprised that Dr. Paul is not higher in the official Primary Polls.

    Ron Paul is the only candidate who can win for America.

    Thank you, Jack, for the good work that you do.


    Daren Miller

    December 17, 2007 at 8:24 pm |
  691. Harold Dawkin

    Jack,Ron Paul ,the reason for low polling is because the complete media..movies..the major newspapers.. radio..also most of the publishing industry,are controlled by entities in the middle east,who may be of American birthright,possibly but are more loyal to their real homeland. harold...

    December 17, 2007 at 8:25 pm |
  692. rich

    I think the question should be paraphrased, "How is Ron Paul raising this much money with such low polling numbers?". The answer is that those people who have been exposed to or made the effort to find out about Ron Paul, our in love with his message. Why are more people not in love with Ron Paul? Simple; he has low name recognition. Despite the efforts of his steadfast supporters Ron Paul has not received the amount of coverage his rivals enjoy from high profile news outlets, this is not to say that there is a conspiracy against him and his message, but sometimes I wonder and i think all of us do. As one earlier commentie said Huckabee's polling numbers went through the roof when he started to be mentioned on (to quote the quintessentially Paulite term) the MSM, I for one saw the increase in coverage of his campaign as a significant contributing factor in his rise in prominence.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:27 pm |
  693. Fran

    I have only voted twice before and that was only to vote against a candidate, that being Bush. When asked my party affiliation I claim to be a peaceful anarchist. I have never voted in a primary but that will change in 2008. Finally, I have found a candidate worth voting for and not just against. I, too, have only a cell phone and have never been polled. I, too, had to change my voter reg. to the Republican party in order to be able to vote for Ron Paul. I, too, have been able to change a parent's mind, who has voted strict republican for many, many years. In the last 6 months she has come to see the error of having voted for Bush the 2nd time and now says that she wishes that she had listened to me sooner, as everything I told her would happen as a result of Bush being in office has come to pass. I am 54 years old and have watched our country go to rack and ruin, as my mother says. I only hope it is not too late. I only hope that more of mainstream America wakes up and smells the coffee.
    Fran in AZ

    December 17, 2007 at 8:29 pm |
  694. Ronn Mead

    I surely hope that the united states will wake up and elect a man that has brains and understands that this country needs drastic change. The other candidates democrat and republican are all promising what they will do once they are elected.The programs require money. You have to strighten the monetary system first and that is what Ron Paul wants to do. Only then will these programs be realized. If any other republican canidate runs besides Ron Paul,the democrates will win. Ron Paul is the only republican that can win the election. He is not a flip-flopper and he hasn't changed his agenda to gain votes from the people. It must be hell when you cant find dirt on a man. He believes in the constitution and you have to respect him for that or your not american. The media can ignore this man all they want,but after the primaries they will know him. God forbid the democrat that will have to debate him. He will win by his knowledge and the experience he has in government.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:32 pm |
  695. Daren Miller

    In my last comment above, the video link of Ron Paul censorship in the polls is missing:

    December 17, 2007 at 8:35 pm |
  696. Logan

    When people speak of Ron Paul being low in the polls and that excludes him from being a "frontrunner". I have to explain to them that, Ron Paul is outraising all the GOP "frontrunners", he is winning the vast majority of straw polls, and his supporters are at every major or minor rally by every candidate.

    I think back to when the mainstream media was predicting that Dewey would beat Truman in the 1964 election. Of course, there is a famous picture of Truman, after winning the election, triumphantly holding a newspaper that says that "Dewey defeats Truman". The scenario seems quite similar. I think that when Ron Paul wins NH, the media will, once again, be caught with their pants around their ankles.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:37 pm |
  697. Mary

    Jack, the question should be what's wrong with the polls. They are outdated, soooo 1984...

    December 17, 2007 at 8:38 pm |
  698. Scott C

    Dr. Paul has finished first in 54% of the straw polls and the great majority of text and internet polls.
    Why Dr. Paul isn't significantly higher in the national polls is a question that should be directed to the bias, mainstream media. Do you think they (CNN included) will answer truthfully?
    Not a chance.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:39 pm |
  699. Haley

    I have a question- If asked, would you consider being the voice on Ron Paul's radio ads? or the personality on his TV ads?

    And in answer to your question, the reason he does not get more votes is because he does not get 1/10th (proven) the media coverage than the other republican candidates.

    Huckabee is getting more support because he is getting the Christian vote. Dr. Paul, a strong Christian himself, refuses to mix religion and politics together and will not sacrifice his belief that they should remain separate in order to gain more votes.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:40 pm |
  700. Phil Taylor


    There is a ruling eite that has a vision for America's future. It does no include free-thinking, truth-speaking individuals, whether it be an average, individual citizen or a political candidate. The Oligarcy that is in control of the mainstream media will not allow those who they hire to present any perspective other than that which will further their goals. We have witnessed an abundance of corporate ostracization of individuals wha HAVE spoken out, or at least tried to awaken American citizens to the many dangers that fact them, if government continues on its downward spiral.

    To support Ron Paul, by giving him mention through the mainline news feed, would be akin to admitting that what Ron Paul reveals about big government may be worthy of some attention. They surely do not want attention drawn to their determined effort to propagandize the mainstream media in an effort to "adjust" the thinking of Americans in such a way as to promote their agenda, which is designed to, and will, if not checked, supplant the freedoms of all americans.

    The most beautiful and socially redeeming aspect of the Ron Paul Campaign is that, while he has become a voice for the disinfranchised, he has also helped them to find their own voice. He has, in effect, cured the apathy of many and fostered action, where ignorance and complacency once ruled. For instance, I will be voting for the very first time in my long 62-year abstenance. I have finally found someone who represents my views.

    I fully support Ron Paul, but realize that, even if he does not bcome president in 2008, a grassroots movement has begun, that will intensify between now and November 2008, and will not end on that date. Americans want their nation to return to the founding values, from which we have long ago departed.

    Thanks, Jack, for not bowing to the pressures above and attempting to tell the truth and give attention to issues that others circumvent. It may seem that the voices are few, but then, that may very well be an enormous plus – such was the case in regard to the founding of the nation for which we now strive to restore.

    Phil T

    December 17, 2007 at 8:41 pm |
  701. Larry Davidson

    Jack –

    I appreciate your fairness in your coverage of Ron Paul. You are one of the few voices that gives him a fair shake in the National Media.

    Ron Paul is typically excluded from phone polls – as evidenced numerous times through recordings on YouTube and elsewhere.

    I predict that Dr. Paul will be martyred if he starts to take off in the primaries. I pray that I am wrong.....

    December 17, 2007 at 8:45 pm |
  702. Tony

    Gee whiz Jack, maybe if the mainstream media actually did some investigating, they might learn that Ron Paul is not actually listed in the polls. Here's my prediction, when Ron Paul wins the Republican nomination, the country will see Polls carry as much weight as electronic votes!!!!

    Join the rEVOLution.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:45 pm |
  703. Henry

    Polls aren't always reliable. Last presidential election, CNN predicted that John Kerry was going to win based on exit polling... obviously that didn't happen. There is no objective way to verify the accuracy of most polls. In fact if you research the accuracy of polls (google), you'll find whether or not it's due to political bias or flawed methodology, polls often drastically misinform the public. One thing you can take to the bank... a lot of people are forking over cold hard cash and what Ron Paul has accomplished so far is unprecendented.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:46 pm |
  704. Ed Cohen

    The question has been asked hundreds of times in my 59 years in one form or another. Here is the same question in variations thereof:

    If Al Gore won the election, why isn't he president?

    If John Kerry won the election, why isn't he president?

    If Gene McCarthy had the majority of delegates in Chicago in 1968, why were they thrown off the floor by Mayor Richard Daley's thugs, AKA Chicago police.?

    If Richard Nixon beat Jack Kennedy, why didn't he become president?

    If Woodrew Wilson was the peace candidate, why did he take his army to war?

    If FDR was the peace candidate, why did he take his army to war?

    If carbon dioxide and water are the products of perfect combustion, why is carbon dioxide deamenized?

    If ozone is three molecules of oxygen, why is it a measure of polution?

    If the Jews are so smart, why do they cut off the ends of their dicks?

    If the department of defense is new-speak for the department of war, why does Dennis Kucinich think anything will change with a department of peace?

    If there are two major parties, why don't they have different ideas?

    If Columbus discovered the new world, who were all those people living there?

    If therapists are so damn smart, why do they call themselves the rapist?

    When you see, "In God we trust", what exactly is he promissing?

    If the Federal Reserve can print money out of thin air, why can't I?

    If you hate hippies, next time you need a lid, call a cop.

    If two is company, and three is a crowd, why would three men go hunting with Dick Cheyney?

    If Barack Obama is the people's choice, why does he only wear Brooks Brothers?

    If Mac is better than PC, why isn't Big Mac better than Whopper?

    If my parents were the part of the greatest generation, what am I, chop liver?

    If Caesar fiddled while Rome burned, did George Bush dribble what he should have learned?

    December 17, 2007 at 8:53 pm |
  705. Jan Villarreal

    Ron Paul can get money because he has rich friends. Easy to answer, but does not make him electable.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:57 pm |
  706. China West

    Are you serious...you should know this...He is not doing well in the poll because he is not being listed in the polls they are using. The amount of unfairness being demonstrated by CNN, Fox , ABC and the others will be remembered well into the after life of network news...which may jstu be next year.

    December 17, 2007 at 8:58 pm |
  707. Jeremy from Tomball, Tx

    Jack, as a former employee of a research corporation I can tell you why Dr. Paul is not higher in the polls. First of all, a man as ignored by the mainstream media as Paul, will rarely be an available choice in a political survey. Second, the big wig establishment candidates are given a large boost in the polls by the question asked to respondents who are reluctant to pick an available choice: "If the election were held today, which of these candidates would you lean towards voting for?" Name recognition gives establishment favored candidates the added boost they need to be well ahead of Ron Paul in these "scientific polls."

    December 17, 2007 at 8:58 pm |
  708. Gary

    Ron Paul should be getting more coverage for sure. He has some refreshing ideas. When he opens his mouth freedom falls out!
    I have noticed some main stream media plainly do not want him to succeed. I think it is hard to stop freedom, real freedom, from happening. Look at this great experiment ...the USA...and tell me it is easy to stop!

    December 17, 2007 at 9:01 pm |
  709. Richard

    I think Huckabee's quick rise to the top of many polls is evidence of the weakness of the preselected top-tier candidates' real support. Some of his points are good, and he does deliver it very well, but I'd rather have an honest, principled statesman than a smooth-talker or handsome or rich or whatever, when they exude insincerity and deliver inconsistency.

    When it comes to principles, its hard to find fault with Paul. I think that's what really attracts supporters like me. We've researched him – to earn our support demands no less. Though I'm not in agreement with Dr. Paul on every single issue, he has always voted consistently with his oft-stated principles of liberty, and you can check the congressional record yourself. Surely his opponents' campaign strategists have. But every time another candidate does try to attack him, they lose cred.

    I know its 'only' the House, but does anyone care that Ron Paul has been elected TEN times? How many times has each of the other candidates been elected, or better, re-elected? Single-termers lose credibility fast if customer-satisfaction means much to you.

    Since Paul's House vote is usually 'no,' some might say his is effectively a wasted vote. How disenfranchised, then, must his district feel, to decide consistently that electing the candidate who often casts the lone 'no' vote serves them better than another more willing to choose the lesser of two evils. Maybe they just remember that the lesser of two evils is still evil.

    I think the real question should be, why don't we have more candidates like Ron Paul? Maybe we just needed a good example to remind us who we are, and what we stand for. Someone who's not afraid to speak the ugly truth.

    But if they really want change, Paulites will need to go beyond the Presidential this election cycle, and elect a congress that reflects these interests as well.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:05 pm |
  710. Guy W. Fredel

    Ron Paul is, in my opinion, displaying substantial integrity by basing his campaign on donations from hundreds of thousand of small donors.

    He has now differentitated himself from many of the other candidates by raising enough money so that he is now a first tier candidate in terms of fund raising. Moreover, the number of new donors to his campaign is growing. Check out Ron Paul graphs. You will see the numbers showing that every day that 60 to 75 % of his donors are new donors.

    Dr. Paul's donor numbers are phenomenal. In one day he almost 60,000 donors. For the quarter, he will have close to 200,000 donors.

    In the weeks to come, the candidates who are not strong fund raisers will drop away. Dr. Paul will be one of those left.

    Second, he has differentiated himself from every other candidate for president by not selling off slices of himself to special interests in order to fund his campaign. No other candidate can say that. This allows Dr. Paul to keep his positions consistent and his message pure. This is why his supporters are the most enthusiastic of all the candidates.

    Can Ron Paul make a difference. You bet he can. More and more people are understanding that. If enough people take the time to think about, to educate themselves, Dr. Paul will become the Republican nominee and then President Paul.

    Dr. Paul has given us, the people, the opportunity to have a government that acts in our interest–not just as a response to special interests and lobbyists.

    What a tremendous opportunity. The Founding Fathers would be proud of Dr. Paul.

    The real question is would the Founding Fathers be proud of the voters? Time will tell. I am optimistic that the people will figure out that President Paul is just what the doctor ordered.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:05 pm |
  711. Cole

    Ask yourself these simple questions, and you will have your answer:

    Why are they only polling Republicans in states with open primaries?
    Why is Ron Paul listed as "other" instead of being treated as a valid candidate?
    And finally, who stands to profit from discrediting the one candidate who could awaken the population and unite them under a common flag of truth and freedom?

    Perhaps you can convince CNN to be the first media entity to conduct a fair poll. Including evenly distributed age groups and political parties, and listing Ron Paul as Ron Paul, instead of "other".

    December 17, 2007 at 9:07 pm |
  712. Phillip

    Ron Paul is low in the polls because everyone in the USA is happy with their govenment, and want it to stay the same.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:08 pm |
  713. Mark Straka

    People are abandoning the corporate media circus and going directly to the Internet, the only hope for participatory democracy remaining to U.S. citizens. I am registered to vote for the first time in years and I will vote for Ron Paul, nothing is going to stop me, and I do not watch CNN or Fox News at all. They are no better than watching professional wrestling, and a lot of other people feel the same way, and they are going to register to vote and they are going to vote and no amount of media hogwash is going to stop them. Wake up! You pundits have been marginalized! And it's about time!

    December 17, 2007 at 9:08 pm |
  714. Mike Thorogood

    Jack, this quote from USAdaily.com's article "Ron Paul is now GOP frontrunner", succinctly answers your question.

    "The idea that media generated polls should be more important than grassroots fund raising generated by thousands of donations is absurd."

    December 17, 2007 at 9:09 pm |
  715. alfonso

    The people will rise and their cry will be heard. A new leader is needed and Ron Paul is the man for the job. No amount of speech coaching, pandering, or any such trickery will convince the people already in power. We need NEW leadership because the people now in power have proven themselves innefective and corrupt. That is why Dr. Paul's campaign is a Revolution, it breaks away from the norm, it stands out of the pack. Help Dr. Paul get his message out there and don't try to over-analyze his success raising cash. He is not a conventional candidate.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:17 pm |
  716. Mark Straka

    Look up Google Zeitgeist 2007. Ron Paul has won that "poll."

    December 17, 2007 at 9:18 pm |
  717. nathan

    our last hope for the country. keep him on, we'll keep watching.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:20 pm |
  718. Ira Madsen

    Ron Paul doesn't "register" in conventional polls for several reasons, most of which relate to polling methodology:

    ) Pollsters call only people with "land lines."

    ) Calling lists generally come from the party's last election voting records.

    ) Students, first-time voters and working people are less likely to be polled since they are less likely to be available at their residence when pollsters call.

    ) In several instances in this election cycle, major polling companies have chosen not to include Ron Paul as an option! Dr. Paul's low numbers, in these cases, are strictly "write-ins!"

    Ron Paul's run for the presidency will finally show polling for what it is; an antiquated system that is rife with corruption and corporate agendas. When Dr. Paul greatly exceeds expectations (which he will!) and polling "wisdom", the media will, covering for their own blindness/arrogance, throw pollsters under the proverbial bus. Media will claim they have ignored/underestimated Ron Paul because of poor intel (polls) and NOT because they regularly, and arrogantly, prefer to choose the public's candidates for them.

    Sadly, the polling excuse will not wash with the American audience, and the mainstream media will suffer a near fatal loss of credibility and increased scrutiny.

    Mr. Cafferty, the Ron Paul Revolution IS the big story in this election cycle. You sir, have the opportunity to be the one to later say, "I told you so." I would jump on this career opportunity if I were you.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:21 pm |
  719. Tina Wells

    Ron Paul is low in the polls because that is where DINOSAUR MEDIA media (main stream media) wants him to be. The internet is the NEW MEDIA. Any viewer, with the gray matter to think for himself, can research any topic portrayed by the DINOSAUR MEDIA to see if the presentation is accurate but most Americans take the path of least resistance and just eat what the DINOSAUR MEDIA feeds them. Independent thinkers utilize the NEW MEDIA (the internet) to research and see for themselves. There they find Ron Paul and they find him to be genuine and honest....can you imagine that? A Politician who is genuine and honest? I call that a Paulitician! It is refreshing to find a Paulitician that actually speaks the truth!

    The DINOSAUR MEDIA is a puppet used to push along the Establishment's agenda (always remember and never forget how it was the scripted media that launched the Bush Administration's QUEST for the war in Iraq) and the American public, being the sheeple that we are, bought it hook, line and sinker!

    The DINOSAUR MEDIA tells the general population what they will see and gives the impressions the Establishment wants to be impressed upon the sheeples.

    It's refreshing to hear your voice Jack as it makes me have faith that true reporters still exist. God Bless you Jack Cafferty. May all of the good that you do be returned to you ten fold as you truly deserve it!

    December 17, 2007 at 9:26 pm |
  720. Derek

    National polls (in my personal opinion) are bogus–a totally moot means of accurate measurement. Most Americans (including news broadcasters) know perfectly well the extreme bias and limited scope polls have in effectively providing fair and precise data. As I've witnessed several times (even on CNN), polls tend to be downplayed or even dismissed whenever they indicate unfavorable responses. Ron Paul supporters don’t really seem to have any overt interest in participating in the mainstream means of promoting their candidate and therefore don’t necessarily have an equal platform in the national polls.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:29 pm |
  721. cj

    Why does Ron Paul receive so many donations while doing relatively poorly in the traditional polls? What is going on? Simple:

    Paul's support comes largely from people who take an interest in things beyond their personal lives in general and in government & politics in particular. These people, unfortunately for the country, are in the minority. But among them, a great many of them (and possibly a majority) are libertarians and/or "old-right" conservatives, or become so when they hear the message - and they absolutely love Ron Paul.

    People of this ideology are truly excited because they haven't had a candidate like this (who actually speaks for what they believe) for a long time. And so they donate, volunteer, and spread they word with great enthusiasm, creating a true grassroots campaign the likes of which we have never seen. And the internet makes this grassroots effort possible: without it, supporters simply wouldn't be able to bypass the mainstream media and find each other.

    Most of these folks are fed up and disgusted with what the political system has become, and so many of them haven't even been voting in the past - because there's simply been no one to vote for. Traditional polls disregard people like this as "unlikely voters", but the polls have it completely wrong this time. There is a tsunami on its way, still under the surface and invisible to the polls: Ron Paul supporters will turn out and vote in massive numbers, and bring with them all their friends that they've convinced. And the media, despite the writing now on the wall, will still be astonished.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:31 pm |
  722. Jamie Wynacht

    Because, we now live in AMERIKA.
    The media is controlled by a hijacked illegitimate government that wants a one-world government whose citizens cower in fear from the machine gun toting "behavior agents." The "officials" have systematically killed the U.S. Constitution along with the critical thinking skills of a retarded mesmerized dumbed-down mass-hypnotized war-loving citizenry.
    I believe that the only chance this "free" nation has at continuing along the path forged by our founders is for every citizen to turn of the television, sit down with the family and read the Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution, anything by Ayn Rand, and to pray for our Creator's guidance in choosing who is worthy of guiding this nation. Wake up, put your ego out to rest and look into your child's eyes and let your conscience, not the media, guide you at the voting booth.
    Apathy + Ignorance = Slavery

    December 17, 2007 at 9:31 pm |
  723. Tim McD

    Ron Paul states it clearly why he is not in the general election national polls. They don't test his name. Watch for yourself.
    Ron Paul on Hannity & Colmes Post-Debate (10/21/07)

    White House 2008: General Election
    His name is nowhere on this page.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:32 pm |
  724. David Tran

    Ron Paul’s message of Peace and Freedom has been lost on so many of you Americans for you have been scared into giving up “ESSENTIAL LIBERTY to purchase a little TEMPORARY SAFETY”

    The rest of the world needs you to at least Google Ron Paul, and then make up your own mind.

    Brisbane, Australia

    December 17, 2007 at 9:34 pm |
  725. JayforRonPaul

    The answer is simple, CENSORSHIP. They make sure not to include his name in polls, they completely discount the online polls he wins and when he breaks fundraising records they don't even mention it. How many hours today were devoted to the useless endorsement of Lieberman for McCain when Ron Paul clearly has America standing up ready to take back our country. Over 6 million in one day. These people will be going to the polls to vote. The major news sources are not going to let America see this movement. Thankfully this election there are Google and Youtube where we can actually find the information we need. Remember if you believe the media is biased be sure to notice the ads on the sides of the pages and be sure to boycott the websites' sponsors. We have the power to change things. Go Ron Paul!

    December 17, 2007 at 9:34 pm |
  726. Norman Shafer

    Mr. Cafferty,

    Tonight, I spent an hour or so running from car to car passing out "Slim Jims" of information about Ron Paul. I am a 64 year old veteran that has never been called by a single poller. But you can bet your life, I will vote in the Florida primary for Ron Paul. And everyday I dance from car to car, I will be working to disprove the polls you speak about.

    Thank you for the chance to speak out,

    SFC, USA, Retired

    December 17, 2007 at 9:35 pm |
  727. Waldo

    The critical reason why Ron Paul is not registering in the polls, well is that because his name is not mentioned in many of them. I've heard some of the phone polls people have received and played over online radio shows, and they will ask "If the Republican National Primary was today, which candidate would you vote for?" And they'll go read a list of candidates, "Press 1 for Rudy Giuliani, Press 2 for Mike Huckabee, Press 3 for John McCain," etc, and WILL NOT list Ron Paul on this phone poll, only, "none of the above", so some people will choose 'none of the above' and the percentages will be shared with the other omitted candidates. It is completely biased and unfair. Furthermore, as many others have pointed out, the corporate lobby has power over the media, and Ron Paul accepts no money from corporations while candidates like Hillary Clinton are being endorsed by people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes.
    Boston, MA

    December 17, 2007 at 9:36 pm |
  728. William A. Reiner

    Dear Mr. Cafferty,

    I'm a 62-year-old American missionary living in Mexico. No one has ever called to ask my opinion of the candidates, because I haven't voted since I voted for Bush in 2000. What a mistake! I believe there are millions who have dropped out of sight on the surface because we have basically given up on the system because the political system in our country is fixed by the big bankers of this world.

    Ron Paul's poll numbers aren't higher because the Republican Party is being controlled by those who represent special interests. And look at Fox News, who at one time I thought was actually conservative. You, sir, are about the only one I've seen that is somewhat fair. The "establishment" is very afraid of returning to the fundamentals of the Constitution of the United States. I truly believe Ron Paul will win if there is no cheating involved. And don't count on there not being cheating!

    I, personally, will travel the 650 miles necessary to vote for Ron Paul in the primary in Arizona.

    God bless you,

    William A. Reiner

    December 17, 2007 at 9:36 pm |
  729. Paul B

    Want to do your own poll? Go out and count bumperstickers. You'll be way more accurate than the "scientific" polls.

    Think about it, do people really imagine that polling, unlike every other institution in American society, is pure and untainted by politics and money? Especially when polling itself affects political fortunes so strongly? How likely is that?

    Remember that picture of a grinning Truman holding up the Chicago Daily Tribune with the headline, "Dewey Defeats Truman"? We are soon going to see another example of that. Lots of pollsters and pundits are going to have egg on their faces. The smart ones are at least hedging their bets like Howard Fineman recently did in talking about the New Hampshire race.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:36 pm |
  730. Emery Mtz

    3 reasons for this i believe:

    1- Polls usually use the term "likely voters" what that means is they only count registered republicans who voted in the last election and on a regular basis. They eliminate all new republicans and all first time voters. Dr. Paul has a huge base in both of these groups as he has cured the apathy of many people. He'd do well in the polls if his groups weren't screened out.

    2- Sometimes he is not even an option. It can be Giulliani, McCain, Thomson, Huckabee, and "other".

    3- A few Ron Paul supporters think he doesn't have a chance to win. With this thought process they come to the conclusion that if they vote for him it will be a "wasted" vote. They revert to voting for a candidate who thy believe has a chance and is a "lesser of evils".

    December 17, 2007 at 9:36 pm |
  731. Troy

    The pollsters have proven to be outdated because land-lines are being replaced by wireless phones. There is also documented proof on youtube showing that the polls are rigged by changing number's message and tone. Much like they do with the voting machines.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:37 pm |
  732. Clayton Easter

    The simple idea of a scientific political poll is ludicrous at best. It is an attempt to instantaneously judge something that is constantly in flux, never truly giving you a sense of the true beast. This is especially apparent in the early days of this race. At this point, hard evidence of widespread support can only be extrapolated from that of funding. In this, Ron Paul is champion both in amount and in representative quality of the vast American spectrum.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:38 pm |
  733. Tina

    Mainstream media is doing their best to ignore Ron Paul. Again, like many who have already done so, thank you so much Mr. Cafferty for giving his campaign media attention. The more media attention, the more Americans are exposed to his simple but most IMPORTANT message.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:39 pm |
  734. Matt Allred

    Thanks for being kind to Ron Paul. It seems like mainstream media try to ignore him . He has a message that resonates with me and many other Americans becuase it is what the American Dream is all about. America is the greatest nation on earth, but only if we keep it free, independent, and if we remember and serve God, who gave us our freedom.



    December 17, 2007 at 9:39 pm |
  735. Keith R.

    Ron Paul has been succesful monetarily due to his popular message and the devotion of those who hear it. He is not doing well in the polls only because not everyone has heard his message, or they might be ignorant.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:46 pm |
  736. Eric

    Ron Paul is the first presidential candidate that has inspired me to get involved. It's his message that is reaching Americans. The values and ideas set forth in our Constitution need to be protected.

    Money talks and bs walks. Shaking hands and kissing babies worked in the past . TV and yesterday's newspaper are NO LONGER the conduit for information control it once was.

    6 Million raised in one day. By the people for the people. The phenomenon that has taken the internet by storm cannot be ignored by oldstream media any longer. It cannot be mocked. It cannot be reduced. The Revolution has started. And like California Wildfires, there's too much wind to stop it.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:51 pm |
  737. Pat

    Which polls are you asking about? I am seeing many polls where Ron Paul is way in the lead. The ones that he is winning are not shown or discussed by most media. He won the MSNBC and Fox News debate polls, CNN.com debate poll, ABCNews.com debate poll and the CSPAN online GOP candidate poll. He has the best grassroots support and people that are passionate about his message. Many people are very tired of politics as usual. We are tired of voting for "the lesser of two evils." We are also tired of the media telling us who are the frontrunners and ignoring the other candidates. Many of the polls do not even have Ron Pauls' name as a choice and we must pick "other" if that is even an option!
    I appreciate you talking about Ron Paul but most of the media pays little attention to him. We have to raise huge amounts of money to get a mention and then he is still referred to as a "fringe candidate." This is my question..when will the media stop telling us only about who they perceive to be the candidates worthy of talking about and report on all the candidates? Is it any wonder that we have to tell people to Google Ron Paul because many have not even heard of him? Ron Paul is a man with something that is almost unheard of in a politician...integrity! He is very clear on the issues so there is no guessing on where he stands.
    Please continue to mention Ron Paul.
    Thank You!

    December 17, 2007 at 9:51 pm |
  738. Danielle W.

    I've never been asked to take a poll and neither has anyone else that I know. If it has to do with the MSM, then I always say that the other candidates make so much negative drama about themselves that the news seems more interested in that instead of something that will actually change our country for the better. It's quite unfortunate.

    People always call us supporters "spammers" or that we are bending the votes. I can almost guarantee that Ron ranks an 85% average on most internet polls because we are passionate about our candidate and we only vote once. Most of them won't allow us to vote more than once. The internet just happens to be where his supports are and where we can communicate quickly and effectively.

    There is a lot of controversy going on out there and it amuses me that they just can't find any dirt on Ron and it's giving everyone else a hard time.

    We The People!!! Ron Paul 2008!!!

    December 17, 2007 at 9:53 pm |
  739. Tim Titler

    Why is Dr. Ron Paul not doing well in the polls? Simple, he is not included. I finally was polled over the phone and guess what? Dr. Ron Paul was not even one of my 6 options! You can't win, if the polls and the media do not include you.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:55 pm |
  740. gp manish

    mr cafferty,

    i am a ron paul fan from india. i can't believe that sitting right there in america you haven't realized what a complete sham these so-called "scientific polls" are:

    1. they ignore people who did not vote republican in 2004. as far as i know, bush stood unapposed in 2004. that was when the iraq war was around a year and a half old. so isn't it obvious that all those who voted republican then were pro-war? that stacks the odds against ron paul straight away.
    2. it follows that the polls leave out all those people who are registered republican and did not vote in 2004. in other words, it leaves out all those who were disillusioned with the political scenario in 2004...those who ron paul has inspired to become involved again.
    3. it leaves out cell-phone users...most young people (eg. me) are primarily cellphone users. and who are most young people supporting?...hmm...
    4. the polls leave out of the picture converts to the republican party...and who inspired these people to convert?...honest upright men like rudy and mike?...i think not...

    so, you see, when you take these points into account, the fact that ron paul's polling numbers are rising amongst primarily middle age to old age republicans who voted for bush at the height of the iraq war, for an RP supporter like me, is AWESOME! add to that 18 million dollars, nearly 80,000 meetup members, people pouring out in sub-zero degree weather to celebrate the 16th of dec....and you get the picture...pleae wake up and smell the "unscientific" coffee!!

    December 17, 2007 at 9:56 pm |
  741. Dale Legan

    Ron Paul has won over 2/3 of the Straw Polls in any election year this would be a big deal. But, this year the media ignors it.

    RP is not higher in the polls because the polls are run by professional liars like Frank Lutz. Since the begining the Media have always prefixed him as Ron Paul the kook, or Ron PAul the libertarian (10 term republican), Ron Paul the "longshot' or on interviews saying "you won't win" or in debates "will you run as a independent".

    Simply the Media is ARROGANT, HAS NO INTEGRITY AND USES THEIR POSITION TO INFLUENCE THE VOTE. People are waking up to how biased the media is and the complete lack of journalistic integrity. Ron Paul has the support to be reported just as much as Huckabee or anyone else without being pre-fixed with the "longshot" or ended with "he probably won't win." It is so obvious how the media has (in the past i hope) desperaty tried to sway peoples oppinions away from Dr. Paul or convince them it isn't worth the time because in their great psychic wisdom "he can't win." or marginalize him.

    Only a idiot can't see it. The media needs to wake up and get some integrity back. People are not as stupid as the media thinks and this is going to backfire big time.

    Also, I know for a fact that the polls have a negative multiplier for Ron Paul. So his true numbers are much higher than the polls say. The polls also are based on "likely republican primary voters" which means the very small percent that strongly supported George Bush in 2004.

    I will guarantee you this. If Ron Paul is not the Republican party nominee the Republican will lose so bad that the republican party will go the way of the wig party. And, this Republican voter of 24 years says they deserve it.

    December 17, 2007 at 9:56 pm |
  742. Charlie La Mothe

    The media buzz is suggesting that Ron Paul is not doing well in polls.
    Three different methods are used to poll : Telephone, Internet & Straw Polls. In internet polls, including all recent post-debate polls, Ron Paul overwhelmingly wins. Ron Paul has won 21 of 43 state GOP straw polls, and he has placed first, second, or third in 79% of these straw polls. So of these three types of polls, two are reporting overwhelming support for Ron Paul. However the media still strongly suggests that Ron Paul is failing to gain any mass of support. As internet & straw polls would be averse to that conclusion, they must be getting their information from telephone polls.

    Answer me this: Why are telephone polls are reporting such different results than are all other types of polls? If straw polls and internet polls are showing support for Ron Paul, why is it that the media focuses only on telephone polls?

    December 17, 2007 at 9:57 pm |
  743. gp manish

    sorry i forgot to mention...have really liked your coverage of ron paul so far...think its been unbiased...so thank you!

    December 17, 2007 at 9:59 pm |
  744. Cristian

    "I’d love to live in a country with Ron Paul as its President. But alas, its not to be. I’m a Canadian and he’s opposed to immigration. Opposing open immigration doesn’t seem a very libertarian position to me."

    Get a life, will you? Please learn to use your brain and don't intoxicate people...Ron Paul IS NOT OPPOSED to immigration...Don't put words in his mouth and learn to read, think, and fight against brain washing by the mainstream media...

    December 17, 2007 at 10:01 pm |
  745. Patrick Krott

    I think the numbers aren't translating in the polls because there are so many young people and new voters that wouldn't show up in a telephone poll.

    Not to mention, the one time I received a telephone poll about 2 weeks ago, Ron Paul was not even listed as an option!

    December 17, 2007 at 10:05 pm |
  746. reflux1

    No poll is ever truly representative. The media can keep trying to pretend that Ron Paul is not a serious candidate, but he is, the people have spoken. We want freedom, liberty, and a restoration of the constitutional republic.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:07 pm |
  747. James

    Consider for one moment that all contributions to Ron Paul were individuals or small groups. He beat John Kerry's record which was mostly attributed by large defense contractors etc. The grassroots is often under estimated, but faithfully delivers for Dr. Paul.

    He does not do as well in the polls because he is plain and simple LEFT OUT. I heard a phone poll where his name was not mentioned, but rather lumped with "other". Who is to say what percent of "other" he gets at the end of the day. If things were fair and scientific he would be in the double digits like Huckabee and the rest.

    Everyday Americans across the traditional political spectrum want Ron Paul and embrace his message of freedom, but corporations (including media) do not because he is a threat to their "interests" namely war. Can you say Blackout? Can you say Gatekeepers? Nuf said.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:12 pm |
  748. Rick Grootveld

    Jack, the reason Ron Paul does not poll well in the "scientific" polls is because his name is rarely given as a choice. I have been polled 3 times in the last few months and the only time his name was mentioned is when I brought it up. I answered Ron Paul to all the questions even though I wasn't offered that choice. I'm sure that the poll taker didn't have that as a box to fill in so my poll was no doubt discarded. Also whenever Ron Paul does get media attention he is invariably referred to as a "long-shot", "dark horse" etc. If he is being interviewed he is either told he has no chance (Stephanopoulus) or asked some ridiculous question. The man is an M.D. who also has a degree in economics, unimpeachable integrity and a real love for the principals on which this country was founded. His "flaw" in the eyes of the big money interests and their media sycophants is that he can't be bought. Whether he wins or loses in his bid for the White House he has already made history. For as did Barry Goldwater before him, Ron Paul has ignited the passion in the hearts and minds of a great many Americans who seek to restore this country to it's former glory. He will inspire a new breed of men and women to seek public office and clean up the mess. Indeed through Ron Paul's example the torch shall be passed to a new generation.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:12 pm |
  749. Dave

    He's not higher in the polls because polls by telephone are by now archaic.

    No one had accounted for the astronomical effects the "information age" would have on people's abilities to form opinions on what would normally be left to a small minority of those who we're passionate and "in the know". Combine that with a vehicle for their voice to be heard, and of course this is what you get!

    Have none of you opened the 6th grade history book you made your child's read all through school?! This guy is like a magnet for every memorable experience that people as a brand have associated with America.

    I may stand alone in this, but regardless of the internet's "wild west" style egalitarianism, when factored for the power of persuasion, the man with the most coherent message will win. Freedom is our most popular opinion.

    I am not saying that Ron Paul's message is always what might be construed as the "most modern of answers". The problem is that I have yet to see anyone, ANYONE actually try and debate the issue's with him, because his message is still by far the most relevent and coherent to the American people's belief system of what this country means to them.

    As a final thought, he would probably fair far better if he WAS ACTUALLY A CHOICE in those polls. Nearly every one I have run into does not LIST HIM AS AN OPTION.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:19 pm |
  750. Jackson Baer

    He's not higher in the polls because they call "likely republican" voters, meaning those who voted in the last election. My wife and I are are both voting for Ron Paul and we've never voted before. Many of his supporters have not voted before or in a long time. Also some polls don't list his name which makes it kind of hard to get voted for. And a little coverage on Fox, CNN, MSNBC wouldn't hurt. How can someone have so many supporters and donations and not get major coverage on national tv?

    December 17, 2007 at 10:20 pm |
  751. Jordan

    Ron Paul recently jumped to 11% in South Carolina, where he is also polling at only 25% in NAME RECOGNITION. Consider that for a moment. Nearly half those who know him in SC are for him!

    Until today I viewed those individuals who claim there's a massive Ron Paul cover-up by the mainstream media as slightly biased, but I watched the news nearly all day as every broadcaster focused on basically meaningless endorsements from newspapers and whatnot. One cannot help but be appalled that the endorsement of tens of thousands of Americans went ignored for the majority of the day. If the media would humble themselves, admit that Dr. Paul is a top tier candidate and give him the appropriate coverage, I firmly believe his message of freedom, peace and prosperity would be embraced by more and more Americans. The ideas of Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln are not kooky.

    Vive la liberté!

    December 17, 2007 at 10:22 pm |
  752. Randy Goguen

    Because he is not a media shill.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:24 pm |
  753. A G

    Freedom is Popular!

    I'm not sure why I'm now considered a paleo-conservative or why being pro Constitution and for a severly limited federal government is now considered fringe... all these years as a Republican I thought those were integral elements of the platform.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:25 pm |
  754. Mike Miller

    I suspect the polls are wrong. There are many metrics to use in gaging support. straw polls, number of volunteer, money raise, web polls, political sign spotting, youtube/facebook/googles, etc. All those metrics indicate Paul is a front runner. But the "official polls" contradict those other measurements. They disagree by a significant amount. The primaries are just around the corner now, and we'll see what the real situation is.

    Here is the challenge to the media. If the official polls turn out to be wrong, and the other metrics right, will the media take the polling companies behind the woodshed for getting it so wrong?

    December 17, 2007 at 10:25 pm |
  755. Jon D.

    Ron Paul isn't ranked higher in the polls because most polls don't include him and it would at appear from an outsider than most media outlets in general are trying their hardest to sway people away from taking Ron Paul's run seriously. I appreciate the time and kind words that you have given Dr. Paul but the majority of the media takes every opportunity possible to take shots at Dr. Paul's credibility. It's unfair media coverage that is killing Ron Paul. Take for example, a recent online poll in which Ron Paul won but the headline was that Mitt Romney came in second place. I've seen numerous examples of this slide of hand and retraining everyone's focus away from Ron Paul. It isn't appreciated and it only gives credence to those who claim that media and pollsters are picking the president and not allowing the people to be well informed on the candidates' stances on the issues.

    Thanks for letting me voice my opinion...though I feel it will most likely go unheard.

    Jonathan, formerly and longing for New Orleans, Louisiana

    December 17, 2007 at 10:27 pm |
  756. Michael

    Cafferty you are the man, keep talking about Ron Paul we know you support him!, rage against cnn!

    December 17, 2007 at 10:29 pm |
  757. Scott Charleson, US Navy Verteran

    Most Americans get their news in the 2-4 minute highlights presented on TV or radio. Since it's NOT in the best interests of most organizations to have power in the hands of the people, very few organizations want to promote anything but the status quo.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:33 pm |
  758. Charles

    There is probably some truth in a lot of these arguments. I know many polls don't include him. Some polls are tailored to land-lines and some to likely Republican voters. I'm not really sure why in the one area of polls conducted by MSM, Ron Paul doesn't score well.

    Something I do know though is something is wrong with the media when the day after watching us raise 6 Million in 24 hours for Ron Paul, I woke up and turned Fox News on and all I saw was a banner on the bottom that said, "Darkhorse Ron Paul raised 6.2 Million in one week." How telling. That statement can be called true, but do you see the spin. I do.

    I also know one thing with absolute certainty. I will vote for Ron Paul in my primary in Mississippi. I have voted for a Republican for President in every election since Bush Sr. I am not a mindless Republican supporter, its just the Democrats are practically communist . I'm a traditional American.

    Why am I voting for Ron Paul? It's because I agree with 90% of his platform.
    I'm for the constitution and limited government. I like the way the founders of our country talked and Ron Paul sounds a lot like them. It doesn't take a intelligent person to see we have departed from many of the original ideas, just an honest one.

    I'm tired of being told Ron Paul can't win. I'm going to continue to encourage people to vote for him. I will be voting and I'm sick of voting the lesser of two evils. All I can say to the so called pundits and experts is, "Let's see what happens when the voting is over." I know Ron Paul Nation will be there. You may have some explaining to do.

    To all those who missed out on the Tea Party, you missed history in the making.
    I have never had so much fun, blogging, listening to Ron Paul Radio, watching the counter, and goggling the latest news and live chatting with the greatest bunch of freedom-loving Americans I have ever been around. Such optimism I have never felt by anyone in politics. I truly felt like I was part of something special not seen in a long time, if ever.

    God bless the USA and may freedom always exist here as a shining example to the rest of the world.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:33 pm |
  759. Stephanie

    The media ignores Ron Paul. It takes millions of dollars for him to just get a mention. How is one senator endorsing another one a bigger story than regular people raising $6 million in one day for their candidate, and having thousands of supporters meet up all over the country?

    It's going to take astounding grassroots efforts to overcome the lack of serious media coverage.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:34 pm |
  760. Rebecca

    Ron Paul is the founding fathers, Abe Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK, JFK Jr.

    Thats why we love him, thats why we protect him.
    He is totally surrounded in love.
    They can't get to him because we form a human shield.

    What do we share with Ron, we know the truth.

    Godspeed Dr. Paul

    December 17, 2007 at 10:35 pm |
  761. Natasha Snodgrass

    Lack of name recognition. I believe one of the main reasons that Dr. Ron Paul is not higher in the polls is the lack of coverage in the media he gets as opposed to the other candidates. As a Ron Paul supporter I scour the pages of my paper ( The News and Advance) every day searching for even a mere mention. I have counted only three times in the several weeks I have been getting the paper. One was a photograph with two other candidates,where the other two were named but not him, one was a poll that had his name on it, and one was a letter to the editor. Even his outstanding fund raising effort was not covered in the slightest. The other candidates sneeze and they get more coverage. Thank you for your segment on him!

    December 17, 2007 at 10:41 pm |
  762. Bob

    Jack,I like you.You don't seem like the others.You seem real.Because I trust you I am sharing this poll with you for posterity,because it will probably be erased or manipulated by your employer or the rulers that be once it's discovered that Ron Paul wins it hands down.Thank you for your attention to this matter.This is truly a RON Paul REVOLUTION.By the way this is from Larry King's sight,Not exactly conservative.Wake up America.We can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quick Vote
    Who's your pick for the Republican Presidential Nominee?
    Rudy Giuliani 3% 654
    Mike Huckabee 25% 5517
    Duncan Hunter 0% 68
    John McCain 3% 562
    Ron Paul 64% 13845
    Mitt Romney 4% 778
    Tom Tancredo 0% 96
    Fred Thompson 1% 191
    Total Votes: 21711

    This is not a scientific poll

    December 17, 2007 at 10:43 pm |
  763. Marie

    Are we still talking about "landline" polling? "What if" polling was now targeted to all newly registered Republicans (I know you Dems feel so dirty now) via cell phones?? Text messaging?? Internet polling?? A whole different ball game. Dr. No has legitmately earned his second nickname "The Six Million Dollar Man"! And THAT will tranlate into votes!!! Thanks Jack for the report, you Rock!

    December 17, 2007 at 10:43 pm |
  764. K. Wrigh

    I gave my Christmas money to Dr. Paul
    because I want my children to live free.
    They won't have much this year, but it
    is an investment in their future.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:44 pm |
  765. John Ubele

    He's not polling well because the polls are rigged, I can provide you proof of this. It is my sincerest hope that you cite this poll rigging on your next show.


    December 17, 2007 at 10:45 pm |
  766. Baba Padmanabhan

    This is in response to your question regarding Dr
    Paul"s polling numbers. The national poll mainly
    targets people who are registered and voted in 2004 as
    republicans. Obviously, this is a small majority of
    the population. The Republican base did shrink last
    year due to the war issue and we saw that in the
    results of the election last year. So, a poll targeted
    at Republican base has no validity on this election.

    Baba Padmanabhan.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:48 pm |
  767. Drake

    He seems to be left off a lot of polls and always trivialized as a long shot with no chance of winning. When will their be real competition of ideas? Most of the other canidates don't even seem to understand the intended purpose of the federal goverment and all the TV time is spent debating about whose Health Plan leave out the fewest children or who is the best at building fences around their yard or city to keep out illegal aliens! When will the country stop majoring on the minors and start a real debate about our freedom and personal liberty? Ron Paul speaks of real issues of deep importance that resonate with people around the country and yet he is quickly pushed aside as a nobody or a wacko!

    December 17, 2007 at 10:52 pm |
  768. Sindu Nadarajan

    The national poll mainly targets people who are registered and voted in 2004 as
    republicans. Obviously, this is a small majority of
    the population. The Republican base did shrink last
    year due to the war issue and we saw that in the
    results of the election last year. So, a poll targeted
    at Republican base has no validity on this election.

    Sindu Nadarajan

    December 17, 2007 at 10:56 pm |
  769. Jish

    The stage has been set for Hillary and Obama as VP. Most likely e-voting will be rigged , courtesy of Bilderberg – big fund raiser for Hillary.

    December 17, 2007 at 10:58 pm |


    From WHITESBURG, GEORGIA...................

    I'm a long-time Repiblican, age 56, residing in GA.
    Have voted Republican for a lifetime....
    old fart I reckon........

    My Opinion:
    Conventional polling methods rely on voters from previous elections.
    Many of Dr Paul's supporters have not voted in a number of years, or never voted.

    I have also heard that when polling takes place that Dr Paul's name is not mentioned by the preson responsible for the call.....don't really know if this is true.

    I personally have admired Dr Paul's message since my college days in the mid-seventies. Dr Paul as a young man would often speak of the monetary problems we would someday face if we strayed form the sound money principles....He was correct....

    Gasoline is less expensive today than it was thirty five years ago.
    Back then I could buy four gallons of gas for one Paper Dollar or one Silver Dollar, as the gas was 25 cents per gallon in the early seventies.
    Today I can buy one third of a gallon of gas with the Paper Dollar, but with the exact same Silver Dollar from years ago I can now buy FIVE Gallons of gasoline (the silver dollar is worth 15 of my paper dollars.
    Therefore gas has not increased in price, the paper dollar has decreased in value....This is what Dr Paul told us would happen 30 years ago.....
    have a great week....
    Earl Morehead
    Whitesburg, GA

    December 17, 2007 at 10:59 pm |
  771. Bob

    Jack,Have you noticed that most of the people who support Ron Paul can actually spell and write logical complete sentences?I know you're not a blogger,but this is truly a unique phenomenon in the blogosphere and even society as a whole today.Maybe we're not the moonbats after all.This truly is REVOLUTIONARY!

    December 17, 2007 at 11:00 pm |
  772. Peter in Canada

    Hi Jack,

    Cell phones are King in America. I lived in Texas and 75% people I know don't own a landline. Who are they polling really? Ron isn't getting a fair shake in the Main Stream Media. Maybe the next Ron Paul suporters organized event should be a week long cable subscription suspension. We already know that people are going online and watching less TV. Maybe if we banded together we could send a clear message that we want News we can Trust and News that is Fair and Balanced. Regarding the polls, have you ever heard the story of the man who drowned in a lake with an AVERAGE depth of 3 inches? Statistics are easily manipulated to get the desired result and some people even make a pretty good living at this. God Bless America and Long Live Ron Paul.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:06 pm |
  773. sue

    Maybe those taking the polls are the same ones that did the exit polls in Florida last Presidential election. And then we can't forget the recount. How could anyone doubt the honesty of our system. What counts is who shows up to vote. And then if they are lucky and their votes are counted and not thrown away Ron Paul could be our next President.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:10 pm |
  774. Robyn Richardson

    Many of Ron Paul's supporters have never voted before, or are people who stopped voting and being involved in the political process years ago. But now we have a candidate who is a statesman (founding father material) with a voting record to prove it. Ah, the Constitution – the law of our land, and Dr. Paul wants to restore it. What could be better?

    Thank you Mr. Cafferty for your fair and balanced coverage of Dr. Paul. It is so appreciated by all of us who know and understand what is at stake for our country: Liberty – Prosperity – Peace.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:12 pm |
  775. Chad Blessinger

    Ron Paul has the chance to turn his fundraising success into votes. The more who hear his message, the more who support him. Freedom is popular.
    Chad in Indiana

    December 17, 2007 at 11:14 pm |
  776. Leigh

    Dear Jack,

    You stated that every time you mention Ron Paul on your show that you immediately get swamped with email from Ron Paul supporters; but when you mention, much more frequently in your admission, any other candidates names, you get NO response from ANY of them. What does this tell you, as a respected journalist, the answer should be more than obvious. Maybe, just possibly that these other "top tier candidates" don't have the support they claim or think that they have.

    I know that you've seen the wide spectrum of supporters than Ron Paul garners, and that too should speak for itself; his message of Freedom, Liberty and Peace is one that resonates with a HUGE cross-section of American citizens.

    I hope that you will continue to mention Ron Paul and you will to do it more frequently; maybe you will be the one who sets the higher standard in journalism and reporting that more of main stream media will eventually aspire to! You sir, are a man of integrity and I want to thank you for high moral standards. Thank you.

    In Liberty and Freedom,
    Leigh A. Young

    December 17, 2007 at 11:18 pm |
  777. Brian Green

    Maybe this has already been said but it is very important and true. These polls only go to likely republican voters. I am not a likely republican voter but will most definately vote for Ron Paul. Ron Paul supporters have put their money where their mouths are. Just like Mr. Cafferty mentioned his supporters act they don't just listen, the same will happen in the primaries. People may not like Ron Paul but it is very hard to argue with his message of freedom and constitutional values.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:20 pm |
  778. Corey Hanke

    Did you even look at the independent National Caucus on or around Dec. 7th?

    Ron Paul won 50% of the vote among Republican Caucuses. He won 62.5% of the vote among Open Caucuses. None of the Media even shared this info with the public. It seems like when We the People do our own voting, and not some corporation, he wins.

    If you would like this information, here is the link to the website.


    and this one:

    Share these results with the nation, and you will see that these polls are flawed.

    Corey Hanke (Ron Paul Supporter)
    Newton, KS

    December 17, 2007 at 11:21 pm |
  779. Bill Jackson

    Ron Paul's polling numbers are gradually ticking up. He now is polling at 11% in S. Carolina. Understanding what Ron Paul has to say involves educating one's self. The inflation tax, Federal Reserve, and NAU are not well covered by the MSM for instance. Ron Paul has to do a lot of education work about topics that no other candidates talk about and that takes time.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:22 pm |
  780. Dave Serfozo

    To answer the question about Ron Paul, my guess would be media bias, propaganda, or just plain ignoring Paul by not allowing him and his real message to aired fairly by all stations. Instead of his message, edits and comments are made in order to alter his image. I find it brilliant really but I should be watching what the news once stood for and not a Ron Paul (or any politician for that matter) parody program. It’s nice to laugh, I agree, but when it comes to Paul, we are talking about our future, Freedom, Liberty, and something called the Constitution… and at this moment in time perhaps it should be something to laugh about, but taken seriously. When I see this happen on new programs I wonder if others understand this is actually disturbing.

    To see proof of what I mean watch this behind the scenes FOX clip and judge for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZNlXSn_vC8 (59 seconds long) -Dave-

    December 17, 2007 at 11:24 pm |
  781. Dan N

    When I first heard about Ron Paul, my first reaction was that he was not mainstream enough to have a chance. Since that time I have looked closer at his message and now believe what he stands for is the truth. . Sometimes we must do the hard things because we know it is the right thing.Change is always hard and sometimes scarry. I am so impressed that Dr. Paul has the courage to stand tall and speak his mind with what seems to be complete indifference to what the polls say.I think a lot of people feel this way but need time to get comfortable with the idea of supporting someone who has not yet recieved the attention of the national media.I believe this will change as his message gets out.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:26 pm |
  782. Jeff

    Because Ron Paul gets his marching orders from the Constitution.

    All the other candidates take their orders from the power hungry elites.

    Ron Paul will win the Presidency and be remembered forever as the Savior of the Republic, stopping us from ending like the Roman Empire.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:34 pm |
  783. Claire

    It is a difficult question to answer, as anyone who supports Ron Paul is somewhat pre-labelled a whack job. That said, I I read that Mitt Romney is very high up (CEO, I believe) of the corporation that is buying out Clear Channel. After observing Congressman Paul's astounding fundraising effort, and seeing my local stations completely ignore it, I begin to wonder... is there any neutrality left in the media? When I saw this report, it was actually a bit of a relief, but even here I found myself described as "fanatic" in my support. "Frustrated" by the lack of a reasonable answer to your question is closer to the truth – but thanks for asking!

    December 17, 2007 at 11:39 pm |
  784. Bob in Dallas

    Mr. Cafferty,

    Dr. Paul is low in the polls because when the powers that be, (CFR/Bilderbergers/NeoCons), steal the election with black box voting, the sheeple will think nothing of it.


    December 17, 2007 at 11:51 pm |
  785. Oleksiy Pikalo

    The only last thing the media reporters rely on in the effort to discredit Ron Paul is his poll numbers. In fact they enjoy them so much, that they are willing to ignore all other factors, the most important being his ideological consistency and superiority over any other candidate. You asked the right question, Jack, and I really hope that the answer is not the polls are not prearranged and manipulated to reflect the wishes of the ruling classes of this country.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:52 pm |
  786. Mathew Gonzales

    Ron Paul's grassroots movement exposes the truth about the Federal Reserve,the IRS, the Iraq War, WTO,NAFTA,CAFTA,NascoCorridor(superhighway),and many unconstitutional not so patriot acting acts which have been passed since and before 9/11. Restoring the Republic takes heart,. As Frank Sinatra use to sing ,"You gotta have heart". This movement has heart.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:52 pm |
  787. jeff sterl

    Tis a known fact that americans are waking up to..
    ...they,(big media) are simply lying about the polls,duh, and diss or downplay him on live TV,By the way all their websites hardly even mention him. With what is known they are actually starting to look blatant stupid ex;downplaying the so called "internet people" as being non valid.The internet IS the people and isnt owned by these people though they are trying right this minute. The proof is EVERYWHERE. Big TV media is owned by the neocons(very easy to verify) whose simple fascist plan is the New World Order as Bush SR. said himself. Ron Paul is the COMPLETE threat to their plans. Very clear cut matter of fact. You dont need to go far to see the truth of this everywhere and cut through big media's BS propaganda which in the end are really only Told what to say and Not to report the reality and truth about, for example this pitiful govt's true agenda which if was told would have Bush and Cheney arrested againt crimes of humanity instantly. I fear for all americans and the world. Ron Paul is everything america used to be and what all americans fought for in the beginning.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:54 pm |
  788. hanna

    He's low in the polls for several reasons:

    1) The media has never given him a chance of exposure, always neglecting his campaign even though it's the most dynamic and exciting one out there.

    2) The polls are rigged. What kind of scientific poll would only give choices for the "top" candidates and put the "bottom" candidates under "other"? This alone makes these polls a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    3) Jack – have you seen this youtube video?


    You would be doing the American public a great service by airing this youtube video on your program – It's only a minute and a half, but boy does something smell fishy.

    4) I would argue that the samples polled are fairly small, restricted to land lines and do not account for the democrats, independents and those who have never voted before to be considered.

    I think something is definitely wrong with the media that only relies on traditional polls. If anything, the media can use them as ONE metric of a candidate's potential.

    Do you realize that Dr. Paul will probably end the 4th quarter having raised the most money of any candidate?

    Do you realize he will probably have the most cash in the bank because his campaign spends wisely?

    Do you realize that he has been winning straw poll after straw poll?

    Do you realize that his rallies consistently draw hundreds and sometimes thousands of people in sleet, rain, or snow?

    How can all this, along with his fresh message that Americans are longing for, not mount to much, but rather the traditional polls are the be-all and end-all in terms of media coverage?

    Don't you think something is wrong? Don't you think something fishy is going on? Please know that we like you a lot, Jack, for the honesty and balanced reporting. But, I think the blockbuster story here is the story about the media not covering Dr. Paul's campaign, in fact, at times going to great lengths to ignore it and undermine it. Why? You may call us conspiracy theorists, but when it walks like a duck and talks like a duck and swims like a duck, then it's a duck - and something very sinister is going on here. Maybe it's your bosses who don't want you talking about this, but to the casual observer something really fishy is going on.

    December 17, 2007 at 11:59 pm |
  789. Jeff Thornton

    I want to thank you for your fair coverage of the Ron Paul phenomenon. The silence from the rest of the main stream media is deafening. The polls are becoming ridiculous to hear reported. Mark Twain should have said "lies, damn lies and polls!"

    The story today was Joe Lieberman endorsing John McCain. What a non-story. Maybe we should report that McCain's mother just threw in her endorsement.

    The story is that Ron Paul raised 6 million in one day and he is a force of nature.

    Jeff Thornton

    December 18, 2007 at 12:04 am |
  790. Mike

    The polls are inaccurate. Their sample populations exclude new media, and as such are flawed. Similar to the media's failure to recognize MTV's effect on Bill Clinton's campain, the media is unable to accurately recognize the size of Ron Paul's following.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:05 am |
  791. Raymond in Washington state

    Thank you Jack for your sincere interest!!

    After reading the above numerous blog reports, I have learned a lot of information about the polling methods and the results. Thank you folks for your information.
    The first candidate I remember supporting was I LIKE IKE. He was Republican and he ended the Korean conflict. Ron will keep his word and end the fiasco in IRAQ.
    The polls the controlled media have created are the same methods used to start the war. WE THE PEOPLE are tired of the lies and traps set for us to step into.

    Thank you again for the ability to speak up and be heard.

    Raymond in Washinton State

    December 18, 2007 at 12:06 am |
  792. Shirley Kinder

    To Robert Drake in Canada:

    He is ONLY opposed to ILLEGAL Immigration

    December 18, 2007 at 12:08 am |
  793. Erin H.

    I don't think the questions should be, "If Ron Paul raises $6 million, why isn't he higher in the polls?"

    Instead, it should be, "If hundreds of thousands of voters have donated to Ron Paul's cause, what's wrong with the polls that they don't reflect his popularity?"

    Context is everything, Cafferty.

    – Erin H.
    Orange County, California

    December 18, 2007 at 12:10 am |
  794. Walt

    I believe Dr Paul's numbers are better than the polls reflect. The reason I believe this to be true is that it is apparent there are a large number of young people (with cell phones) in his base. I do not believe this group is being accounted for in the polls. Heck, I'm not even young and no one has called me. These polls are good for generating a lot of speculation but the only poll that counts is when folks show up at the ballot box. I'm really anxious for that to begin because I think there are going to be some surprises. Oh, Jack, thanks for mentioning Dr. Paul on your program. Looks like everyone else is is so insecure that even mentioning him on their show might bring an end to their illusion. All I can say is... all those that love freedom, the constitution and America know the truth.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:10 am |
  795. Jason

    it is my belief Ron Paul is not higher in poll standings due to the bias nature of the poll takers. many of the polls the media use to rank presidential candidates dont even include ron paul. some of those that do lead ron paul supporters down a trail of pointess, even offensive, questions untill they give up and are discluded from the total count. i have even found polls that give negative multiplying values to the percentage of Ron Paul voters.
    . if the corporation owns both the poll company and a company that is interested in the military industrial complex as well as the news organization that they pump their propaganda through why would they mention the mass support of a candidate that would end their check and balance-less tax payer money flow. Ron Paul opposes the views of the corporate interests that own the poll taking companies

    December 18, 2007 at 12:17 am |
  796. Suanne Skidd

    I commented earlier, as soon as I heard the question on The Cafferty File. I was watching CNN only to see how they would cover the amazing fund raising record set by Ron Paul. Initially I was excited, thinking they were really going to finally give Dr. Paul some time, but was very disappointed when he was given a few minutes at most, and then vast amounts of time were devoted to Lieberman's endorsement of McCain (who the h*ll cares?), and some sort of bs about Huckabee, Hilllarey and Obama. I couldn't even watch it. Years ago I watched CNN all the time, but now that I know it's virtually pure propaganda, along with all other TV "news", I hardly ever turn it on anymore.

    I think this goes a long way toward answering the question. I thank you, Jack, for mentioning it, but how about giving Dr. Paul more than a minute of coverage? Raising 6 million bucks in one day is pretty incredible for a "fringe" candidate, no? How about if you (not you specifically, but CNN) give us the news (the real news, please) and let us decide who the top-tier candidates are, instead of choosing them for us? The bias is so obvious it is nauseating!

    Ironically, Dr. Paul will appear on Glenn Beck's (CNN HN) show tomorrow, and I believe Beck was the one who compared Ron Paul supporters to terrorists and said that we might be a physical threat that the military would have to deal with, after the November 5th "money bomb" record fund raising day. Although until tomorrow I will have never seen his show, Beck looks to me like a Neo-Con Rush Limbaugh clone, and I hope Dr. Paul sets the record straight and puts him in his place. If he is disrespectful of Dr. Paul in any way, I will never watch CNN again.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:22 am |
  797. Bradley Peters

    Sometimes I wonder if a better question might be why is there only one Jack Cafferty?

    December 18, 2007 at 12:25 am |
  798. Joy

    The last time I heard he was at 8% of likely Republican voters (and it's always increasing.) But his message has been powerful enough to pull former independents, Democrats, and non-voters to the Republican party, so at least half of his supporters aren't being polled. So, you need to double the 8% to 16%.

    But then, you have remember Ron Paul supporters will convene even in a blizzard (like in Boston this weekend). Our flood of e-mails to answer your question is another good example. So, I'd say a Ron Paul supporter is twice as likely (at least!) to turn out to vote. So, let's double the 16% to 32% of people showing up at the caucuses and primaries! Not bad and still growing! And face it, Ron Paul supporters are not likely to be changing their candidate of choice, so that number will only grow.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:28 am |
  799. Suanne Skidd

    BTW, I really do like you Jack, I think you're one of the good guys, and I think maybe you're even a closet Ron Paul fan...

    December 18, 2007 at 12:29 am |
  800. Will

    My direct answer didn't get aired so just throwing this out there in case anyone cares:


    There are a so many reasons… here are some I hope you can read on air:

    – Part of Paul’s support is non-republican, and does not register in GOP polls, or not 2004 Bush voters, who may be targeted.
    – His support is dispersed but mobilized, so nationwide action is high despite polling being lower.
    – Occasional polls exclude Paul.
    – His stances are well thought out, but can require some homework, which is not popular in today’s climate of sound bites and emotional hooks.
    – Coverage has been cursory and misrepresentative, and sometimes dismissive, think: “Libertarian,” “isolationist,” “fringe, “flake.”
    – The media reports DAILY on frontrunners regardless of events, and on candidates like Ron Paul only rarely, so they do not gain traction. Exposure-influenced polls are then used to justify coverage. It is self-perpetuating.
    – With no offense to CNN, the media seems much more concerned with editorializing, forecasting, and now endorsing candidates instead of covering them with fairness and sound research.
    – Those poll numbers have been slowly climbing (he hit 11% recently in SC).

    December 18, 2007 at 12:29 am |
  801. Tom Drew

    Why is Ron Paul not higher in the polls?
    I was polled. Ron Paul was not an option. You tell me, how can you be high in a poll you are not included in?

    December 18, 2007 at 12:29 am |
  802. Stuart Kahler

    Why is Ron Paul not higher in the polls?

    I think the first reason is that his support is largely among young people. Who tend to only have cell phones that pollsters can't call. Who also don't have a lot of evening free time to field calls from pollsters.

    The second reason is that he's been omitted from many polls. For a long time, pollsters took data only on Romney, Giuliani, McCain and Thompson. McCain is now out and Huckabee is in.

    Reason three is the way polls ask questions. They don't read a list of all 15 or so candidates and ask who they plan to vote for. They first ask you if you lean Dem or GOP. Let's face it, if your main issue is the Iraq War, you're going to say you lean Dem even if you're a conservative on most of the other issues. Once they pigeonhole you as a Dem, they only ask about your preference among those candidates.

    These polls create a self fulfilling prophecy where only the annointed ones get free media exposure to keep propelling them to the top. Paul very well may have less 'supporters' for now, but the ones he has are far more likely to donate money and show up to primaries. Since Iowa caucus turnout in 2000 was 8.4%, even if his 8% polling numbers are correct, he could win if just 25% of his supporters show up to caucus.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:47 am |
  803. John

    Here's how it works, Jack.

    The idea is to narrow down voter's choices before the first vote is held. The various corporations who control the media and politicians use a mutually reinforcing combination of polls, endorsements, and media exposure to convince citizens that their vote will be wasted unless they vote for the horse that's obviously going to win the race.

    It's called manufactured consent.

    To work, the citizenry has to be sufficiently dumbed down, and it has been in the recent past, to a degree that would greatly disturb the Founding Fathers. But the times, they are a changin'.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:53 am |
  804. Jeff Rodriguez

    I don't think Ron Paul's supporters are accurately represented by traditional phone based polling. A great many of his supporters are younger, technically inclined, newly registered republicans, and don't even own a land line telephone.

    In a few short weeks we'll see just how much support he has, and I have a feeling it's going to shake the foundations of the establishment. The Ron Paul Revolution couldn't be stopped by God himself.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:55 am |
  805. Jazz

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because the Republican Party does not want him to be president. The Republicans and the media hides him from the people and makes him look like a joke when they have to show him.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:55 am |
  806. Devin McBride

    Many of us have stopped considering polls as being relavent for exactly this reason. There is something very oddly wrong about them.

    December 18, 2007 at 12:58 am |
  807. Mike Hagan

    Ron Paul wins most polls that include him in a fair format. The national pollers often only ask "likely" voters whom voted in the primarys 4 years ago. Thats skipping over 90% Americans.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:04 am |
  808. Donna Young

    I believe if they polled people who actually read the Constitution and knew the history of this country, we would overwhelmingly see single digit poll numbers too.

    It's a shame how far off course our country has gone from the founding ideas–Life (in prison), Liberty (lost) and the pursuit of happiness (in the little blue pill).

    Donna Young
    New Hampshire

    December 18, 2007 at 1:04 am |
  809. Kristen

    There have been talks about how Ron Paul could prove to be a "spoiler" for the other candidates by siphoning off votes. The truth is, Ron Paul is creating new votes from the young, the disaffected, the once-apathetic voters and it serves as tribute to his message and his integrity. Ron Paul is bringing Americans back to politics, and it's a phenomenon that phone polls simply can't capture.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:08 am |
  810. MikeBellman

    Ron Paul supporters are mostly regular citizens. We don't have much political influence. You don't talk directly to "us". We have paid with our WAGES at $50 a pop. Can the so-called 'top tier' candidates boast such wide-spread support or is it from $2300 donations and PAC money? (or Romney who writes himself a cheque and doesn't care is he has any actual donating supporters)

    Generally you hear what the GOP tells you. Michael Steele of GOPAC is a good example of someone steering the debates and nay-saying Dr. Paul's credibility.

    <> for mentioning and listen to us 'little people'

    Columbia, MO

    December 18, 2007 at 1:09 am |
  811. Sharon Spearman

    I beleive Ron Paul Is the man our country needs to restore what has been stollen by powerful ellements in our society who have taken control of the dismantling of our freedoms written out from the origins of the republic set in place by the people of this country who originally meant for it to be under the control of the people, the states, and federal government has hijacked and taken it away bit by bit. He is popular and loved and a threat to those who would keep it from being given back to the people. We who love this man and beleive as he beleives, know that the media is being held back by those who call the shots, and feel threatened by this man and the sword of truth and freedom he weilds. We stand behind him and will spread the word anyway. What have we to lose?

    December 18, 2007 at 1:11 am |
  812. Neil Efros

    I would like to know where the large dollar contriutions are coming from, say the top 20% money contributors. Ask Mr. Paul this and see if he will give an honest answer in terms of who these specific contributors are, not averages which is just a way to play with numbers to avoid the issue. Mr. Paul panders to those who love hearing how we are paying too much taxes to a do nothing government. It would be interesting to know the average taxes on the top 20% if the contributors and the other 80%. Ron also panders to those who believe we are losing our liberties provided in the Bill of Rights as if it was written for the average Amreicans struggling to make a living and not the well off Americans needing laws to protect themselve from those less well off now that democracy (votes) would rule. Our forefathers in the Bill of Rights excluded as voters and participants everyone in the government pretty much everyone they possibly could. But Ron won't talk about this. He will say we are meddling and made a pre-emptive strike in Iraq contrary to the constitution and what our forefathers meant for us to do as a moral country under moral law as if these were not the people who quickly vanquished everything the could under the "divine right" of Manifest Destiny, then if that were not enough, instituted the Monroe Doctrine assuring control over the rest of the America's, save Canada that we tried but were unsuccessful in taking. Then there was later the great Andrew Jackson who butchered the Indians and Polk who siezed almost half of Mexico. So much for our forefathers and where meddling in the affairs of other nations were born in our national mentality.
    So Ron, hold onto the Bill of Rights, and keep talking about our forefathers and not meddling and tell us where the top 20% of your campaign contributions came from. My guess, and it is only a guess, is it is that it is from those with the most to financially gain while the polls I suspect reflect more in representing by the means in which they are collected, those who see through the pandering and propaganda.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:14 am |
  813. Jonathan

    Ron Paul raised $6 million in one day from individual donors and this is the only coverage I have managed to see all day. IF main stream media made the effort to cover Ron Paul, his poll #s would jump almost instantly to 20-30%.

    Go RON PAUL!

    December 18, 2007 at 1:19 am |
  814. Adam Melton

    I am very glad that you mentioned Ron Paul. He is one of the least covered candidates and deserves equality if nothing else. He has inspired many people through his message and will continue to do so.

    The reason I believe that he is not higher on the polls is corruption. I do not want to single out any specific poll or website/group but I do think that the way things are shown is very corrupt and that the average Americans are easily swayed by that.

    Hoover, AL

    December 18, 2007 at 1:20 am |
  815. Wesley Useche

    The reason Ron Paul is so low in the polls is that those polls represent registered voters from the past elections primary. For the 2004 primary we had a incumbant in office with virtually no challengers. Because of this less than half of the people from the 2000 primary showed up for the 2004 primary. The majority of these were die hard Bush fans and Bush easily won the nomination with a vast majority of that vote. That vote was approximately 25% of the republican party. The same 25% who still approve of President Bush.

    Now to say that Ron Paul is polling at 5% to 7% amongst those who still approve of Bush and the war in Iraq is incredible. Considering Pauls message that means that 5%-7% of those loyal to Bush have changed their mind on the Iraq War. That in and of itself is a miracle.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:22 am |
  816. Mike Hagan

    This YouTube is worth watching. It shows how Ron Paul and others are omitted from this mighty polls that everyone cares so much about. If we cared about the issues and picked the best candidate to address the issues we wouldn't need these skewed polls and we would have Ron Paul in the White House. He is the only person putting Americans problems in front of some ambition to be the next president.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:26 am |
  817. Ted Hosmann

    How can you get a fair chance when the women of "The View" would rather talk to you about their Vaja-ja's than the political issues that are so important to all Americans.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:27 am |
  818. Brandon

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because of one simple reason, press coverage. He doesn't get the press coverage the rest of the canidates do, and I have no idea why. He speaks a clear message, a message that many Americans can believe in.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:27 am |
  819. christian

    Ron Paul is unfortunately not higher in the "polls" because almost every phone or email poll DOES NOT list him as a candidate choice. dennis kucinich has the same problem on the democrat side. these "fringe" candidates are in actuality the only true and real voices on the campaign trail and it's obvious that their message and the groundswell of public support for them frightens the hell out of the status quo.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:28 am |
  820. Austin

    2 Main Reasons:

    1. Lack of media attention
    2. Misunderstanding or ignorance about libertarian ideas.

    If he got more time to speak to the American public about his beliefs and the reasons for these beliefs, many more would flock to him.

    Also, a lot of people mean well when they vote for different policies and politicians who support these certain policies, but they often times don't realize the net consequences. (Department of Education, Universal Health Care, Endangered Species Act...etc) Most of the American public attacks the right issues, but in the wrong manner (increased federal government control).

    December 18, 2007 at 1:29 am |
  821. G. Parker

    Dr. Paul's message makes a lot of sense – to hear it, is to be inspired by it! But, that's the problem, the media is ignoring him and people aren't hearing his message of freedom, responsibility, and hope.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:29 am |
  822. Mike Hagan

    I need to make a correction this is Proper YouTube, please omit the one mentioned above. This is interesting in regards to Ron Paul's poll numbers.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:31 am |
  823. Jason

    Ron Paul is not higher in the national polls because they are Rigged, Fake, Bogus.
    Everyone knows it, we want our country back. Keep lying to the American people.
    The REVOLution is here and now, Ron Paul is leading the way.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:35 am |
  824. jake casek

    Dr. Paul offers this country our liberty and our Constitution back.
    We want it back in the hands of the people where it belongs.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:36 am |
  825. James Moore

    Maybe because the media has dismissed this great statesman is a kook and fringe canidate thats why the polls are low. Every time the media reports on this man they ridicule or scorn him and they haven't figured out yet that they are making his supporters more zealous and making them give more of their time and money for this guy. Ron Paul is a real breath of fresh air and guess what out of all the top contenders He is the only anti-war canidate unlike Hillary or Obama that just make empty promises. America is fed up with lying thieving politicians that cater to special interests just to keep their power. We are onto You're game we know You seperate us and make us fight on silly things like race and abortion just so you can stay in power. Never before has it been so clear that you idiots are destroying this country. We will fight you with our pocket books first. Then we will peacefully protest and march before Washington. Then when You finally make the stupid decision to label us trouble makers and terrorist we will stand for what is right and the rest of America will stand up with us and realize the truth.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:36 am |
  826. Cameron G.

    San Francisco, California

    Mr. Cafferty,

    That's what she said...

    December 18, 2007 at 1:36 am |
  827. Shirely Gahagan of Texas

    Ron Paul is a True American, He delivers a message of hope for the USA. He is a champion of the US Constitution, and We the People of the United States are ready to elect this man for our President in 2008 ! The 18 million represents committed voters who love this country the same way Dr. Ron Paul does. True Americans still beleive in Life, Liberty and Love. We want a Goverment that will protect our Freedom not pass out ID cards. Young and old love Dr. Paul and contribute to the rEOVLution. example : http://acmwallet.com/ronpaul/

    "Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth."
    George Washington

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you,
    then they fight you, then you win." Mahatma Gandhi

    December 18, 2007 at 1:37 am |
  828. David G

    the straw poll i attended in st pete before the debate that took place a few blocks away had romney winning with 800+ votes, ron paul in 2nd with 500+ votes, and 3rd place was like 30+ votes... even though the actual people voting for romney was around 20 people. romney bought all the votes that day, so maybe he buys the airtime he gets? maybe the "top GOP" (and democratic) candidates take turns buying airtime? i can not speculate how many people are behind those polls that are put on tv, but i know what i saw with my own eyes!

    December 18, 2007 at 1:38 am |
  829. Heng

    His poll numbers aren't high because he doesn't appeal to the "likely republican voters" that are surveyed. If you're a hard-core republican who voted for bush in the past primary, you're probably not going to vote for Ron Paul. I think there are going to be a lot of people who newly register as Republican for the sole purpose of supporting Ron Paul in the primaries.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:42 am |
  830. D. Frank Robinson

    I'm not particularly concerned about Ron Paul's non-standing in national media polls. I am concerned about the probability of a rigged GOP convention to nominate anyone but Dr. Paul. Unfortunately the way the media plays the polls discredits the media, not Ron Paul. It also indicates that the media will ignore any back-room, rule manipulating shenanigans, at the GOP convention.

    Hopefully, an honest GOP convention will result in Dr. Paul's nomination. If an honest convention does not nominate Dr. Paul, then the GOP candidate will get creamed in November. But that event will not produce a Democratic 'mandate' either. The 2008 election will likely further discredit both parties – not because of Ron Paul being push out – but because the nations' problems created by the policy partnership of the parties – economic destruction, abuse of civil liberties, perpetual warfare – will lay the justification for candidates in 2010 and 2012 even more radically Paulish than Ron Paul. Who is really a very moderate libertarian.

    If the media moguls think Ron Paul is a radical, they ain't seen nothin' yet! Ron Paul is a themometer of rising discontent. Where I live in the USSA, I almost certainly never have the opportunity to vote for Ron Paul because of the way the primary election laws are rigged. Those elsewhere who have the opportunity to vote for Ron Paul can and should. I can only contribute money. Otherwise, many of us will just have to buy gold and clean our weapons and prepare for regime collapse.

    Just an American veteran.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:48 am |
  831. Steve Edwards

    The polls are obsolete.
    Ron Paul doesnt score higher in the polls because the masses only know about candidates that the mainstream media covers and the media only covers candidates that will be entertaining and get more viewers. We need the media to educate us, not entertain us.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:49 am |
  832. Milton Antony

    I think he doesn't have higher poll numbers because i have never gotten one call from some one asking me who i would vote for. I am 19 and have never voted like most my age this will be the first time we vote and we are all registering republican so we can vote for Dr.Paul. We all have cell phones another big problem and i don't think they do those polls on cell phones. But just know this go on any site Youtube, Digg, Myspace and you will see the doctors followers in massive amounts screaming on top of their lungs WE WANT OUR COUNTRY BACK and we all look up at the good doctor as our man in the capitol who can give the power back to the people. I have emptied out my Paypal account for him on many occasions and i am sure as heck going to vote for him so poll us and you will get a different light on things.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:50 am |
  833. Stephen

    As soon as mainstream media starts to give unbiased reports on Dr. Paul, his numbers will rise.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:50 am |
  834. ciborium

    The 'likely' voters who are polled only watch FAUX News, and they pretend Ron Paul doesn't exist. How will they ever find ways to bury the story when Ron Paul wins both Iowa and New Hampshire?

    December 18, 2007 at 1:52 am |
  835. Andrew

    Careful Cafferty. They don't want you to mention Ron Paul.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:59 am |
  836. Jackson Bray

    Ron Paul fans love you Jack! You always give him a fair shake!

    December 18, 2007 at 2:06 am |
  837. ken

    It is blatantly obvious. The internet isn't regulated by big wigs with agendas thus we can actually see and hear what Ron Paul has to say and we love his direction. Where as the other media outlets are filtering what the end user will see and hear because it doesn't support their agenda.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:07 am |
  838. Matthew

    I don't believe that Dr. Paul is given a fair chance in the polls. The poll takers are asking too small of groups to get the answers that they want. If there was a larger poll taken I believe it would be more accurate.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:09 am |
  839. Josh

    I believe that Dr. Paul's poll numbers are so low because of the polls themselves. Most of them telephone registered repubs or dems at home and ask them to punch a number.....

    The problem is that Dr. Paul's supports are a new generation of voters, and often do not have home telephones or are registered with one party or another.

    My best example to illustrate this is the text polling done after every debate: Fox and CNN both consider these polls 'bogus' or just for fun, and say that Paul supporters 'spam' the polls. Well, guess what? Each cell phone can only vote once...so spamming it is impossible.

    I am also disappointed with you, CNN, for CONTINUALLY calling Dr. Paul a 'long shot', 'dark horse', and other BIASED remarks towards him. You are the definition of propaganda, and I will continue to get my news from alternative sources. I will however, tune in for a chuckle now and then....and when you placate Dr. Paul's record breaking fund-raising with a few seconds of coverage.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:10 am |
  840. Tony

    Thank you for putting our Champion in the spotlight he so richly deserves! You're one of the good ones. Keep it up! 🙂

    December 18, 2007 at 2:12 am |
  841. Desmond Bell

    I just want to thank you Cafferty for giving Ron Paul a fair handshake. It seems that when other's talk about Dr. Paul, they always tag-on "longshot", "2nd or 3rd tier candidate", or "kook". They use the "he's not a 1st tier candidate" propaganda as a reason not to take him seriously. He broke the record with 4.2 million and again with over 6 million. What technically is a 1st tier candidate anyway? Is it based on who's number one in a popularity contest? If it was based on values like honor and integrity, he would win in a landslide.
    I just want to say that I appreciate the way you talk about Dr. Paul. Not as a darkhorse, or underdog, but as a viable statesman, in his own right, running for office.


    December 18, 2007 at 2:12 am |
  842. Jim from Northern California

    Cafferty always calls it like it is. I am a liberal Democrat, but I still respect the Ron Paul supporters for what they are doing. MSM (main stream media) needs to stop supporting only certain candidates and be open to all those who are campaigning. Cafferty just took a step in the right direction.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:14 am |
  843. Max Power

    I think it's clear from the less than minimal reporting after the Tea Party that the media has an anti Ron Paul bias. Old Media is on the way out and this dismal coverage has helped to show their true colors to the American public.

    Keep your finger on the pulse of America Jack, as you seem to have done, and you'll guarantee your place in New Media.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:14 am |
  844. John Doe

    Yes Ron Paul get the largest contributions than other candidates. But this comes at a price. We have seen that with any poll done, if at any point it looks like Ron Paul will win they automatically denounce the poll saying something was wrong with it. another thing that crops up is how at some of the caucuses & straw polls, we have seen supporters get turn away because they are not the people they want to be voting. I support Ron Paul because his stance on restoring our liberties that have been lost is what I want. and if we doesn't win the republican ticket I hope he goes independent. Even if that didn't work I would rather write his name on the ballot than vote for someone like Rudy or Clinton.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:15 am |
  845. Jim from Northern California

    Furthermore, if you don't have a landline (home phone, and who really still uses those these days), who is going to poll you? Polling is still stuck in the 20th century. I bet Cafferty mentions that someday. I would love to see Olberman and Cafferty chat. They are both real.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:17 am |
  846. Jonathan

    I don't know whether or not this video has been posted yet, but it's a prime example of most mainstream media regarding Ron Paul's running numbers:


    December 18, 2007 at 2:17 am |
  847. 010101

    polls schmolls ... in the end, it is all about votes. polls are dead. things have changed. the people are pissed off and they're waking up.

    i quite agree with someone who posted above me here...why are you asking us this question...are you not the reporter?

    this seems like a great opportunity for a story. GO FIGURE OUT WHY HE IS NOT POLLING HIGHER. dig a little...you know, get up off your butt and work.

    reminds me of Morgan Spurlock who actually went out and got his OWN answers on where Osama Bin Laden went. THAT my friend, is reporting...

    here is the info on that:

    December 18, 2007 at 2:20 am |
  848. js-Indianapolis

    Could it be that the polls reflect "likely voters" and are flawed? Remember what happened with Jesse Ventura? Same thing; rabid support, but low poll numbers. Jesse brought out a new class of voter that hadn't been considered before. Hmmm...

    Is this about to happen again?

    December 18, 2007 at 2:22 am |
  849. Mark

    I don't understand why Ron Paul doesn't do better in polls. Some of it maybe from pollsters only calling home phones, only contacting prior voters, or I have even heard of poll calls in which he wasn't listed and when you push for "other" it ended the call. Maybe it's the mainstream media's fault for portraying him as a hopeless contender, constently pushing him to say that he will run as a third party candidate to disenfranchise many loyal Republicans from supporting him. I remember after the Florida GOP debate they had a room full of people talking about who they think won the debate, and the guy who took charge called Ron Paul insane. Well, in my short 23 years on this earth, I have read and listened to speaches, seen great movements of people againt war, racism, or poverty, and been told amazing stories of this country truly uniting in times of hardship. I speaking of men and women of passion that stir something inside of me, making me want to be a better person, help others, and believe that there is good in the world. People like Martin Luther King Jr., Thomas Jefferson, Mahatma Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln, John Lennon, W.E.B. DuBois, and Albert Einstein to name a few, but none of these people are of my generation. My generation... Wal Mart, McDonalds, mass produced products sold at stores meant to have a unique feel with colors and sounds there supposedly entice you to spend more, and an electoral system that makes us feel as if our votes don't matter. I try to convince my friends otherwise, but they always refer to the 2000 election, and the electoral college is a hard sell to my generation. Well, to the point, Ron Paul stirs something inside of me, he speaks the truth in an honest, straight forward, and principled approach. Although I don't agree with everything he says, alot of it I do, and I think almost everyone who listens and acknowledges his message feels the same way.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:23 am |
  850. James (Austin TX)

    The reason Ron Paul is not higher in the polls is because the polls are flawed. The phone polls are land line based, and many of us don’t use land line phones anymore. Sometimes Dr. Paul is excluded as an option in the phone polls. Many straw polls are run by voters which have been delegates or alternates to a previous Republican Party Conventions in the past four years. While many of the Paul supporters are new to the Republican Party, some of which have joined just to vote for Dr. Paul. In a California straw pool, when Ron Paul supporters showed up they shut the poll down. Ron Paul’s message is resonating throughout the middle and upper middle classes of America, while sounding absurd and even threatening to the ruling upper class. Let us start talking about what the Fed really is, a banking cartel backed by the government and our tax dollars. Let us start talking about getting rid of the IRS, and other large government agencies that do nothing but waste out time and money. Let us start talking about brining all the troops home where they are needed most, to protect our boarders. These ideas threaten the means by which many of these millionaires that run the Republican Party have gotten rich.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:24 am |
  851. Ryan Patridge

    Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls because many polls don't even include his name. The few that do show such strong support for him, they are removed or discredited as somehow "flawed". The good news is that at least the polls, pollers, and mainstream media are accurately representing our "fine" corporatocracy. If they keep this up long enough, even the average American citizen will realize the extent of corporate influence in our society.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:26 am |
  852. Jonathan

    You would think a major news corporation would see the stats that over 100,000 people raised over $18 million dollars for a Presidential campaign. As a news giant I would put my best people on it (the young computer literate interns). How do we poll? How about sending a email to say 3 million individuals. Take the averages from their responses which would represent roughly 1% of the US population, instead of phone call polling 1,000 people with represents 0.0000001% of the US population.

    I think the baby boomer major media suffer from cranial rectal inversion.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:27 am |
  853. Terry from Australia

    I am from Australia and like to keep up to date with your presidential race.
    From an Australian point of view, the republicans look like religious loonies who are so war mad it's scary. Our recent election was the first time a major party candidate ever mentioned that religion was important to them! One Prime Minister in the early 1990s was even an atheist.
    The main Republican candidates would scare the hell out of us and no one here would ever vote for them... Too much hype and way too much God.
    So many readers on this site mention the way your polls are compiled and it seems obvious why Ron Paul is not popular in those polls. It seems odd to me compared to our Australian polls that they would even know the political leanings of a polling participant. If that happened here, that poll would never be published again. Polls here have to be anonymous and random.
    BTW, the Democrat candidates are a more like our politicians but still a bit extreme for Australia.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:28 am |
  854. Ian (Ron Paul Supporter)

    The reason hes not higher in the polls is because corporations who control the media would rather seem time dedicated to Guiliani, Huckabee, or Romney over a candidate who would actually benefit America and go back to Constitution, you know that document written over 200 years ago that says something about government. The media controls most of what we watch and hear about, but what the media cannot control is Ron Paul supporters and the revolution. Ron Paul supporters are the ones that do not quit, I know because I am one of them. We are sick and tired and will do anything we can to change America. The thing the polls do not show are the actually number of people that vote, if Ron Paul only has 5% but only 5-10% of all people vote then Ron Paul could very well win the primaries. Thats assuming that every Ron Paul supporter will vote, of course if you know anything about Ron Paul Supporters you know that they WILL vote and encourage others to do so.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:29 am |
  855. Andy from Beaverton

    I've not seen this kind of rabid support since the Beer Hall Putsch in Munich.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:32 am |
  856. Chris Kaetzel

    It's obvious why he isn't higher in the polls. As so many others have mentioned, it's due to the lack of mainstream coverage of him. The mainstream media basically chooses the candidates who will be voted on. The average citizen does not take time to investigate things when they can get it handed to them by the television.
    The fact that Dec 16 isn't getting more coverage makes me sick. He made history and did something completely outstanding and something other candidates could only hope to achieve. Ron Paul gets his money from ordinary people who love the idea of freedom. He's honest, which is a simple quality to have, but most politicians seem to have a lot of trouble with. He doesn't play politics and he doesn't play favorite. He's the only candidate who cares about the PEOPLE and the constitution.
    Our country has strayed so far away from the constitution, so his ideas begin to seem radical. Radical candidates are completely neglected by mainstream media (look at what happened to Mike Gravel). When in fact, all the other candidates are the radical ones and Ron Paul is the one who is grounded and in touch with the founding ideas and concepts that constructed this country. This man gives me hope when no else does. He is so important and I truly feel if he doesn't get elected this country will face the disaster the current government (not just Bush, but Congress as well) has set us down the path to.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:36 am |
  857. Eric Beck

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because the media regards him as a joke. Do away with the IRS? Go back to the gold standard and stop passing massive debt on to our children? Strictly observe the Constitution of the United States? This guy is a lunatic! Besides, this wacko's voting record has remained true to his stated principles from the very first day he ran for public office. (Look it up). Why on Earth would a politician like this be news?

    December 18, 2007 at 2:51 am |
  858. prairiesurfer

    Ron Paul doesn't "show in the polls" when the polls refuse to acknowledge his popularity. Case in point: Faux news, didn't believe their own poll, and Hannity dismissed the incredible results that Paul received

    December 18, 2007 at 2:53 am |
  859. Robert Edward Johnson

    It's very simple: the polls are using old-fashioned land line phone numbers, and upscale folks use cell phones. Thus, Unemployed Muslim-Hating Losers for Rudy and War Widows on Pensions for McCain are oversampled, while the elite (who, after all, disproportionately vote) are for Ron Paul.

    In a recent Fox poll:
    You'll see that while Mitt Romney and surprisingly Huckabee have a pretty even split on those above $50,000 a year and those below, Ron Paul supporters are 8 to 1 over $50,000 in income, while McCain and Giuliani go the other way (29 to 21 and 20 to 15 respectively). For education, McCain were poorly educated (25 to 19 no college to college), Mitt voters evenly split between college and no college, while Ron Paul and surprisingly Huckabee voters were quite well-educated (9 to 5 and 12 to 7 the other way).

    Do upscale types even OWN a land line any more? If so, are they sitting next to it (Rudy, McCain) or do we have a Paul and Paulette staying late working on a new C++ algorithm or calling some more folks on stock deals and then going out to eat at a nice place and then having each other for dessert at her place? If Paul and Paulette ARE at home, do they answer it or can they afford callerid and/or phone messaging to screen calls, unlike the Rudy and McCain supporters?

    Current land line phone polling is stupid in the opposite way that it was stupid during the Great Depression when it yielded a "Landslide Landon" one-term FDR prediction in 1936 when only the well-off hadn't dumped phone service to save money.

    Look at ACTUAL STRAW POLLS (where you have to get up off your butt, not answer your land line!) for a better predictor of GOP Primaries and you'll see that Ron Paul won the Maryland, Virginia, Oregon, New York State, and Alabama Straw Polls, and has creamed Mitt Romney in several Straw Polls in NH (in Manchester over 170 folks voted, with Ron Paul getting over 100, Mitt getting FIVE – I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP). Since most Democrats are poor, their Straw Polls line up with the land line phone polling, but NO WAY for the GOP where there's a clear disconnect between land line phone polling and Straw Poll results.

    As an example we've already seen, The Washington Post predicted Ron Paul to get 2% in the Iowa Straw Poll a week before the event. He actually ended up getting 9.1%, and that was even considering his wife had a heart attack on the day of the Iowa Straw Poll!!! Ron Paul is NOW getting 7% in Iowa, so he'll no doubt get more like 15% minimum and place third, or perhaps even second or first.

    I live in Normal IL, went to Princeton and U of Chicago, am a computer consultant for a living, have a thorough understanding of statistical sampling bias and would be happy to discuss this with you all further if you desire.

    Mr. Cafferty, thank you for being one of a few mainstream broadcasters who have treated Mr. Paul fairly.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:00 am |
  860. Dang

    I live in central California valley and the only news radio we get on local is 580 which is a right wing bias radio. This is just one of the reasons why Ron Paul is behind. They rarely mention his name. It's crap radio to me, but i have to listen to it cause that's the only thing on. I believe the internet more because its open to everyone. Polls are done by "someone" in "somewhere" which makes the general people believe in it. Polls can also be bias, as Ron Paul said sometime they don't even put his name on it. Polls made by "someone" by "some news media" is alway bias. If polls are to be true, they should be done over the internet and openly.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:04 am |
  861. Richard B.

    First, the only poll that counts is the ballot box. Primary turnouts are often as low as 20%, which will give an advantage to candidates with enthusiastic followers. No other candidate has as many enthusiastic supporters as does Dr. Paul. Voicing support to a telephone pollster is easy, but voting takes a bit more effort than most Americans are willing to make.

    Paul gets low poll numbers because the polling methodology is flawed and biased towards getting a predetermined result, based on the objectives of the sponsoring organizations.

    Polls primarily measure name recognition. Paul's name recognition is low because most of the big corporate media has been lazy and derelict in their responsibility to the public to fully report on the candidates' backgrounds and positions.

    Even when the media pretends to be fair, by, for example, including all-comers in the televised debates, they give unequal time to the participants, which only serves to reinforce the "anointed" status of the media darling candidates:

    Giuliani - 16:38, during 20 times
    Romney - 13:18, during 19 times
    Thompson - 12:16, during 12 times
    McCain - 11:00, during 12 times
    Huckabee - 10:00, during 11 times
    Paul - 7:43, during 9 times
    Hunter - 5:06, during 7 times
    Tancredo - 3:49, during 7 times

    Ask your CNN management why they gave such disproportionate time to Giuliani, Romney, and Thompson.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:09 am |
  862. Nino Australia

    The Polls don't represent the real picture, period. I'm from New Zealand, my girlfriend's from Thailand and a close friend of hers(American) living in Hawaii loves Ron Paul and all his friends do to. I thought that was a pretty cool coincidence, how many people out there really do support Ron Paul?

    December 18, 2007 at 3:17 am |
  863. jake

    What other canidate people are printing ron paul gold and silver coines
    and gitting raided by the feds and botnet sending massive email from Russia

    Ron Paul will be the next president we the people will speak loudly

    December 18, 2007 at 3:22 am |
  864. Nathan Hays

    The reason is simple. The polls often either completely leave out Ron Paul's name when asking who you would vote for, or they shut the polls down when Ron Paul has a massive lead. Even when they don't shut it down they claim that the poll must have been "hacked" by a few crazy Paulites. Also, some telephone polls only dial into land-line phones. This leaves out many many younger people and gets primarily older, non-internet savvy people, that have to get their information from crappy cable or television media shows, which continue to give Ron Paul little recognition and make snide comments rather than support the only man that can save this country.
    Great spirits have always met violent opposition from mediocre minds. –Albert Einstein

    Ron Paul is that great spirit. Now get on board.

    Nathan Hays


    December 18, 2007 at 3:23 am |
  865. Chad

    Ron Paul cured my political apathy.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:27 am |
  866. keith wahrer

    Why is he polling in the low?


    1. Many of the polls do not mention his name.
    2. Many polls only count older GOP members
    3. Ron Paul's following consists of hordes of young people, and has probably done the most recruiting for the republicans than all other candidates combined.

    thanks, Keith
    business owner
    Austin, TX

    December 18, 2007 at 3:36 am |
  867. Deborah

    Mr Cafferty:

    I watch your commentary every chance I get, because I feel you are one of the few with integrity. I do not agree with everything you say, but you seem to me to have a fire that many in the media business sadly lack.

    I have been a Republican most of my adult life, and sir, I am greatly grieved at what is happening to my country, because of my party. I am very scared, for my children, and my grandchildren, because my party is making terrible messes that my family will have to live with after I am no longer here to help them.

    My eighteen year old daughter is responsible for sitting down with me and her father and helping us remember the principles we once believed. You cannot imagine the depths of our despair over this country's problems, especially the dreadful state of our political system. We are sickened by the war mongering and wholesale corruption at every level of our government.

    She introduced us to a man we were vaguely aware of but felt had no hope of winning. And as her enthusiasm grew our cynicism diminished and we are now at a place of hope we have not been since our youth.

    We believe there is something much bigger happening than the Ron Paul 2008 campaign. We believe ordinary citizens, and many of our nations young, are waking up to the realities of our corrupt political system and are realizing that change can only happen if each person is willing to invest in his country by educating himself on the issues and learning how to hold politicians accountable.

    Thank you for your honest and thoughtful commentaries.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:37 am |
  868. John from Calif.

    A large number of Dr. Paul's supporters are first time voters, people who havn't voted in years or are comming over from other partys. They are not counted in polls that cover "Likely Rep. Voters".

    December 18, 2007 at 3:40 am |
  869. Ted D.

    There is an intellectual arrogance that underpins the "science" used in these polls. It is the same as that used in so-called Value-at-Risk calculations in financial markets. In both cases, it fails. (In the financial markets, this will become poignantly clear in the coming months if it is not clear already.) The root of the error lies in the idea that the behavior of human beings can be modeled as a simple "random variable," in statistic-speak. This allows the pollsters (as well as the financiers) to open the huge mathematical toolbox of "normal distributions" in order to derive conclusions from the collected data. Unfortunately, the conclusions ultimately cannot be trusted because the statistical assumptions made are false on their face. Statisticians, if they are honest, will admit this, but will make excuses and claim that it is not that bad. However, it IS that bad, particularly when human behavior suddenly deviates (for one reason or another) from what it has been in the recent past.

    See Benoit Mandelbrot's book "The (Mis)Behavior of Markets" for more on this topic.

    Add to this a few dishonest polls (much about which has already been said here) and you get a truly misleading picture of what is really going on in America.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:44 am |
  870. Zach

    He isn't high in the polls because he represents the people, he hasn't lost sight of how we were founded as a great nation, and he doesn't change his message to what big government, business, and media want him to change it too. He is a staple of conviction in a see of deviant candidates. His only tools are his message and the people who believe in it. I think he wanted to prove you don't need money to be president, but we dismissed that , so now he's earned the money from the people and still can't get covered. The "big" stories cover Guliani's campaign strategy and Lieberman endorsing McCain. When people hear what he has to say it is hard to ignore, he just needs people to allow him to hear his message.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:44 am |
  871. sean

    He is not higher in the polls because the polls are distorted by the pollsters.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:46 am |
  872. corey

    vote for ron paul he's the real deal

    December 18, 2007 at 3:47 am |
  873. JdM

    Ron Paul for President, Ron Paul for President, Ron Paul for President
    that's all i have to say.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:00 am |
  874. Matt

    Ron Paul has free reign of the internet.. with that his message has spread like wild fire.

    Unfortunately the mainstream media has willingly or unwittingly censored, through exclusion, Ron Pauls message.

    People have busy lives and just want the news to tell them who the choices are really quick and who most people like.. though the news omits certain candidates who are "too radical" or "long shots".. they themselves become the democracy and remove that right from the people.

    Congratulations to you and a few other journalists who have jumped onto the massive political wave of Ron Pauls Revolution. Whether Ron Paul wins the presidency or not, the message is clear.. democracy is still here and people are demanding a change!

    December 18, 2007 at 4:00 am |
  875. Erik Bowen

    The reason is simple, an ant could mention Rudy's or Hillary's name and the media would be all over it like white on rice, but if Ron Paul makes fund raising HISTORY it's on page 8 section B of the newspaper. There is a media blackout on Ron Paul because of fear from the top that things could actually change. I'm not in fear, but those in power sure are.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:05 am |
  876. linj2fly

    because the polling technique is still stuck in the 90's (pre-cell phone proliferation). Just about EVERYONE has cell phones now......

    Do a story on the out-dating polling process 🙂

    December 18, 2007 at 4:07 am |
  877. Cary Menage

    Because the "Corporate Controlled Media Machine" doesn't want Ron Paul to be higher, so they don't cover him like they do the others. In this sad materialistic, self centered time and place where only those with money get a voice, they can no longer accuse us of being bots or anomalies anymore after we raised over six million, this is just the beginning!

    December 18, 2007 at 4:11 am |
  878. Patrick Gunderson

    The reason Dr Paul isn't polling higher nationally is two-fold. For starters, the polls are typically reporting distorted numbers (when his numbers are reported at all note how he has been left out of reporting despite his occasional polling higher than Thompson and McCain). These polls are measuring the views of likely Republican Primary voters and caucus goers, with some pretty stringent criteria that eliminates many of Dr Paul's supporters (young and first-time voters).

    Secondly, due to these polls, the large number of older voters who primarily get their news from traditional news outlets (your likely voters) only see that he's not polling well, and they see the consistent messaging that Dr Paul Can't win. Nearly every news outlet that has interviewed Dr Paul has asked him this loaded question: "Since you aren't going to win, What are you trying to accomplish?"

    That's not a question at all, but a seeming statement of fact followed by a question based on an opinion. What are the viewers supposed to think? "If this guy isn't going to win, then I shouldn't waste my vote."

    I suspect that come January, there will need to be a revised definition of who a likely voter is, when Dr Ron Paul wins in some of these early polling states.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:15 am |
  879. ServingOverseas

    Polls are an undemocratic form of selective advertising. You could also ask why Ron Paul wins almost EVERY poll online, or, why has Ron Paul won more straw polls than anyone else? Ron Paul is leading in the Alaskan poll but with very selective reporting we don't hear about it. C'mon Jack, if you had an online poll right now(one vote per computer of course!) you know darn well who would win it. Online polls are no more corrupt than telephone polls. Why are the national polls conducted online always rejected? Because Ron Paul always wins. That is called selective reporting, or gatekeeping, but that can't stop such a popular story.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:16 am |
  880. Ara Kirakosyan

    Wait just a minute....... I was told by FOX, CNN, MSNBC, that Ron Paul had six "Internet Savvy" kids who hacked all the online polls, Blogs, and etc...

    If that's the case, then who are all these people shouting out his name?


    He wins every single online poll (thats not rigged), but they don't count (why?)
    He is NEVER included on the land line polls(Why?)
    He wins every single poll regarding the debates (CNN, FOX, MSNBC), but they don't count (Why?)
    He is the only candidate that has this kind of support and following, and were called fanatics (Why?)



    You can have the airwaves, and feed you lies and propaganda to the sheep.

    The Revolution will be digitized!!!!!!

    Ron Paul 2008!!!!

    December 18, 2007 at 4:18 am |
  881. Chris C

    Because Ron Paul isn't included in most of the polls.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:33 am |
  882. Satan

    Someone acturally reads this?

    Answer is simple – media.
    I can bet everything I own (car, small flat) that if someone would count appearance of each candidate (in minutes) on media – Ron Paul would be at the dead end.
    Hopefully thanks to some money he can buy some ads (at least until half of January).

    December 18, 2007 at 4:42 am |
  883. Zack

    It is not the man – it is the ideas he stands for.

    I am an immigrant and was never more disappointed with the US as I was when Bush was re-elected. I never felt more distant with the country. Watching Ron Paul and the revolution makes me proud to be an American.

    Please be fair and give every candidate a chance – Ron Paul has clearly shown he has support – you owe it to the people to present that choice as only the media can.


    December 18, 2007 at 4:49 am |
  884. Dan

    If Dr. Paul can't get the support he needs in the US, he should run up here. The planet needs a world class leader like him, and he's one of the few in the field...

    December 18, 2007 at 4:52 am |
  885. Allison L.

    I'm disappointed, given some of your excellent coverage of Ron Paul in the past, that you don't know why Ron Paul fares poorly in polls. The majority of these polls only tap Republicans who voted in the last primary and have land-line telephones. As a member of a Ron Paul meetup group, I know the incredible diversity of political backgrounds from which his supporters hail. I am an independent voter (with no land-line telephone) who has never voted in a primary, and there are many, many Ron Paul supporters with similar stories. This is no longer a political campaign; it is an outright freedom movement, and Ron Paul is happy to be a part of it. So forget the polls, what speaks louder than $6 million given by 59,000 people (plus off-line contributions)?

    Let's get Ron Paul on the show, please! 🙂

    December 18, 2007 at 4:57 am |
  886. thewritersjourney

    I like what I have heard from Ron Paul, though I must admit that's not much (due to the lack of media coverage). Most of what I have learned of his views have come from online research. I admit that he is one of three Republicans that I like in the race (Rudy and Mitt are NOT the other two). I would vote for him if he got the nomination, but I don't think he will. Surprise me please?

    December 18, 2007 at 5:05 am |
  887. hp

    Ron Paul Being Censored In Telephone Polls:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPpCvF7N3Vg and



    Any Questions?

    December 18, 2007 at 5:19 am |
  888. luke

    Check the straw polls. Ron Paul wiped the whole field. Why aren't you guys reporting on that?

    December 18, 2007 at 5:20 am |
  889. Sean

    I live in California, I support Ron Paul, and I have not contributed to either "money bomb." I'm not showing up on polls, and neither are all the other 20 somethings (with advanced degrees) who I talk to regularly who support Dr. Paul. I don't know of anyone who has even heard of someone who has been part of one of these "national polls." Do I trust these polls? No, but that doesn't matter. Sadly, the electorate is pretty easy to manipulate with these "scientific" polls.

    If these United States were still a (voluntary) federal Constitutional Republic (as opposed to a consolidated National Democracy– i.e., a centralized government with unlimited power), it wouldn't be that important as to who the President is... except for those matters/powers delegated to the fed via the Constitution and Article II.

    Ron Paul's support indicates that people would be much happier if Congress stuck to its enumerated powers (expressly listed) in Article I Section 8, and if the fed as a whole respected the bill of rights, namely the 9th and 10th amendments.

    Decentralization is the cure, along with restraining the power of the federal government as a whole. Pork would be completely eliminated (aside from military pork) if Congress were forced back into the straight jacket of Article I Section 8. Sadly, this will not and cannot happen without a strong and forceful (ideally non-violent) protest (followed by resistance) at the state and local level.

    Would Ron Paul be a good first step? Absolutely. However, the sheep who live in this country probably aren't smart enough to vote for someone like Ron Paul, which tends to justify the implicit arguments of Democrats that "the people" are too stupid to live their own lives and to govern themselves.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:27 am |
  890. John Pfannkuchen

    Simply put: the polls are flawed. They don't phone registered Democrats (like me) and they don't phone people with cell phones.

    Also: because the major networks haven't given him half a chance until his supporters donated so much to him and made headlines.

    Also: simpler messages break down easier. Not only is Paul's message not simple, it's also different. These factors influence message adoption rate. Not everyone in this country went to college, and out of those who did, not all of them took a public affairs class. Not everyone follows politics. As a matter of fact, most people don't. They are attracted to the simpler messages that the other Republican candidates employ because they've honed their images and their prepackaged catch phrases and comebacks. They are The Expected. This is what it means to be a Dark Horse Candidate. Popularity is like money; the more of it you have, the more if it you will accumulate exponentially. These people still live in the world of fear that the Bush Administration has nurtured for six years. They just want whatever is best, even if that means taking their cues from the very opinion polls they are in turn influencing.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:37 am |
  891. Sandy

    First of all Mr. Cafferty.... Thank you for asking the question and taking the time to report the accomplishments of Ron Paul!
    The reason he has gotten very little attention has been well stated by the hundreds of wonderful people (I'm so proud of you all) that have already written to you. If the rest of the country doesn't wake up and rally around Ron Paul, it will be a great loss
    to this country!

    Woodinville, Wa.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:44 am |
  892. Jonathan Doherty

    A large portion of Dr. Paul’s Support are a younger crowd just starting or well into their college years. The current polls that the media refers to are done via landlines NOT cell phones or the internet. Therefore it would make sense that a large portion of Ron Paul’s supporters are NOT being included in the polls because they do not own a landline, they own cell phones, and use the internet. Do a poll on the internet or allow cell phone users to be included and you will have a much more accurate poll.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:49 am |
  893. Ben

    Read all the messages above this one. It's getting pretty obvious now isn't it?
    Go Ron Paul!

    "It's Liberty or it's death. It's freedom for everybody or freedom for nobody!"
    Malcolm X.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:55 am |
  894. Bob

    Ron Paul supporters tend to be; 1)young technology savy people who don't have a traditional phone number listing to be polled, 2)not affiliated with the traditional political party system, ie. registered or regular voters and as such the polls "miss" them. Look at the grass root response on your site, Digg, YouTube, and any site that has an on line poll. Ron Paul has recognized this revolution, and is somewhat surprised by it, in a way no other candidate has been able to. I don't believe Ron Paul is the reason for the revolution, just the one who was embraced by it.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:57 am |
  895. Jake Garn

    In my opinion we have a front runner culture. The average American citizen does not know the candidates, they do not know the issues, the do not care. It's a sad and I'd daresay inconvenient truth, but it's the truth. What the general public DOES have an interest in, however, is not looking uneducated, so when asked who they support they insist on giving the answer that is the most popular. It's not a phenomenon unique to politics, everyone knows how many 'new' fans the Yankees, or the Red Sox get when they win a series, or how extremely mediocre music records have sales that skyrocket. The evidence of our front runner culture is everywhere, so when a candidate like Ron Paul comes on the scene, who's views go against the status quo, it takes a long time for people to feel comfortable supporting him.

    There are three types of American voters that I'm familiar with: Ones that don't know Ron Paul, ones that love what he stands for but support someone else because they don't feel he can win, or the one's that just don't care. I'm still waiting to meet someone that understands him and doesn't like what he stands for.

    December 18, 2007 at 6:26 am |
  896. BoMar

    I lived the first 20 years of my life in a communist country, was a teenager during the "perestroyka" years, celebrated the fall of the Berlin Wall and lived through the paunful transition of Eastern Europe from communism to ... well, not really democracy, but at least limited freedom. Any time I watch CNN (Communist News Network?) or any of the other "mainstream media" in the US I am reminded of my childhood years, when communist propaganda was the only thing you could watch. You guys are so good at copying the propaganda methods of the commissars.

    So it is not that Ron Paul is not "higher in the polls," it's just your polls are carefully tailored to reflect your own ideological bias, and therefore they are out of touch with reality. Just like communist propaganda in the past was ideologically-driven and out of touch with reality. And then you look at your own ideologically-driven, unrealistic polls, and you are so surprised, "Huh??? How come our polls could not predict Ron Paul's success?"

    Well, may be Dr. Paul's calling in life is to cure you of your ideology and bring you back to reality. It's time for you to take your medicine. Obviously, for CNN the Berlin Wall hasn't come down yet. It is time for you to feel the wind of change.

    December 18, 2007 at 6:41 am |
  897. jbird

    Thank you for asking the question. We all love Ron Paul and I have yet to meet someone who is not for this man and his message. I see change forever and in a good way because the masses are alive and awake and we no longer believe in the same old rhetoric anymore. We have to change and Ron Pauls message is what we need, its high time the so called media starts to recognize the people and what they want instead of what big business or government propaganda wants for the people. This for Gods sake is suppose to be the land of the free and the home of the brave. Look at this government and then look at who the major media pushes in your face. We see that they dont care what the people think. Thank you Mr. Cafferty for this forum, you seem to have some good journalism left in you sir, thanks.

    December 18, 2007 at 6:46 am |
  898. Ed

    I've seen polls where Ron Paul polled 85% and I've seen polls where he wasn't even on the list. It doesn't add up that Ron Paul can raise 6 million with an average donation of $50 and not have support. Is that good for America? Yes. The day my vote counts less than Ted Turners is the day we stop being America. If I don't like what's on TV I can turn it off. If I don't like what's happening to America I can vote RON PAUL '08.

    December 18, 2007 at 7:08 am |
  899. Immigrant Song

    I personally think Paul is behind in the national polls because of the methodology behind the polling. The national poll numbers are simply wrong and do not take into account the amount of democrats,independents and libertarians who have switched over in order to vote in the polls. Right when I hear the phrase 'likely Republican voters' it lets me know that the poll numbers will be inaccurate and misguiding. Whenever poll numbers are read on the news, it should be automatically followed by their methodology in order to get a full picture. Also, as of now when people are called and polled on land line phones, sometimes Ron Paul's name is purposefully left off. There are also millions of college kids who will be voting who do not have land line phones. No matter how you look at it Ron Paul is going to shock the world.

    December 18, 2007 at 7:36 am |
  900. DanielJ

    Ron Paul's message of peace and harmony is strange because it's one we haven't heard in a long time. He's the most compassionate and sincere politician I've ever seen and speaks a compelling story no matter what political side you support. If America doesn’t want Ron Paul, then send him down-under, we’ll have him.. In relation to the poles.

    1.Make sure Ron Paul’s name appears on the actual pole, that might help.
    2.The media need to give all candidates equal air-time, not just their favourite candidates.
    3.And rubbishy media outlets like FOX NEWS need to do something revolutionary and start covering the facts, the same old slop is getting old. Support a true patriot for once, not crooks like Giuliani..

    December 18, 2007 at 7:40 am |
  901. Ken

    They don't even list Dr. Paul on the polls, how is he suppose to rate higher? Watch the youtube video where they block the voter because he selected other when Dr. Paul wasn't an option. Do you really think Huck has risen in support that much overnight? Corporate sponsers see their boy Guiliani is free falling so they shift their support to someone close to Dr. Paul, but still controllable.

    And thank you sir for the question, one of the few open media sources left!

    December 18, 2007 at 7:44 am |
  902. Nick

    Why Ron Paul keeps getting underestimated from the traditional polling services?

    Because the traditional polling services are targeting those
    previously involved in the political spectrum. Paul draws supporters
    from outside the traditional spectrum. Ron Paul's supporters are the
    majority of Americans who either never vote, or hate to vote for the
    lesser of two evils. People, for the first time in decades, have found
    someone they WANT to win. The other candidates and the current
    administration have forced upon the American people socialism and a
    big brother state, and people hate it. Ron Paul offers a message of
    freedom, and power to the people, and it is working. If millions of
    people across America can unite in one day, via grass routes to donate
    a record amount of money, people like what they see, and people like
    Ron Paul.

    God Bless CaffertyFiles for supporting Ron Paul, and God Bless
    America, that the best candidate may win the next election, and that
    man is Ron Paul.


    December 18, 2007 at 7:49 am |
  903. tsolo

    to John from Keystone Heights, Florida:

    The message of Freedom and Liberty sucks? See ya in the Gulag.

    December 18, 2007 at 7:52 am |
  904. Sean

    Mr. Cafferty,

    "Here’s my question to you: If Ron Paul can raise more than $6 million in one day, how come he’s not higher in the polls?"

    Thanks for asking that question in the first place. Very few of your media associates ask or care.

    The polls are formulated by big business, big banking and big oil, and coordinated by the Council on Foreign Relations to inform the unwashed public which puppet the elite shadow government currently believes will allow them to make the most money and will most obediently subjugate the interests of the United States to Israel.

    Ask yourself which candidates have ties to the CFR and which are doing well in the polls. By the way ask how many of your fellow media associates are members of the CFR and you'll start to acknowledge how carefully political news is pre-processed to insure the desired result.

    Think I'm a wacky conspiracy nut? Google "news media council on foreign relations" or for more fun google "council on foreign relations north American union" and ask yourself who would BIG business rather have as President, one of it's own members, all "top tier" candidates, or "maverick" Ron Paul whose CFR invitation must've been lost in the mail.

    Hopeful for America's future.

    December 18, 2007 at 7:58 am |
  905. David Morrow

    If you ask a professional poll writer, he will tell you that you can make a poll say whatever you want it to. So it seems obvious to me that those writting the polls are getting the results that they wanted.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:04 am |
  906. Barb Behringer

    There is a very simple reason that Ron Paul doesn't Poll Well:

    His name is not offered on many Polls... Duh.

    Please visit:


    The proof is there.. Ron Paul isn't even included in this telephone poll.. if you try to chose (other candidates) button.. you are disconnected and Barred from Any Future Polls.

    If your name isn't on the Poll.. you won't Poll Well.

    Ron Paul has won Every straw poll, except the Florida one in which Romney Voters voted many times each.


    Ron Paul has won every post debate poll.. but is not on many polls.

    The Answer is a DUH!

    December 18, 2007 at 8:35 am |
  907. Barb Behringer

    There is a very simple reason that Ron Paul doesn't Poll Well:

    His name is not offered on many Polls... Duh.

    Please visit:


    The proof is there.. Ron Paul isn't even included in this telephone poll.. if you try to chose (other candidates) button.. you are disconnected and Barred from Any Future Polls.

    If your name isn't on the Poll.. you won't Poll Well.

    Ron Paul has won Every straw poll, except the Florida one in which Romney Voters voted many times each.


    Ron Paul has won every post debate poll.. but is not on many polls.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:36 am |
  908. Gracie

    Do your homework. Check out http://www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/ which will tell you the whole world is behind Ron Paul. Check out Bilderberg Group discussing assassinating Ron Paul. Check out the Bilderberg Group. They are behind all the discussions. The people are sick of the elite and the puppets that are placed into office. Do your homework. And stop reporting lies and propaganda. We are onto all of the media. I only listen to GCN.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:37 am |
  909. Tim Hibbard

    Well there are many factors that effect his polls.

    First is a lot of people are only polled who voted in the 2004 republican race. These are all Bush supporters who would not even think about voting for Ron Paul. I would call most of the people part of the social elite as well.

    Secondly his name is left off of a lot of polls. The good example is the Mass. phone poll that circulate the internet. I'm sure you can good the recording of the poll where his name was not even mentioned.

    Third he is harnessing a lot of democratic votes (like me) and libertarian votes.

    And last but least his 30 seconds is not enough for him to get his message out. Saying he is going to get rid of the Department Of Education makes him sound like a nut. But when you read about why he is going to get rid of these departments it all makes sense. This requires reading and studying though. If the main stream media gave him half the time as the other candidates people could relate.

    Keep up the good work paulites! We are getting the message out!

    December 18, 2007 at 8:38 am |
  910. James Burke

    This...from someone who once worked for a company that conducted political polling in MA, and (for full disclosure) is now supporting Paul...
    1. Contrary to what most assume, many polls do not report out a simple "how many" number...there are biased screens to define "likely," with the most utterly meaningless (in a year when there is a real race on), but most widely used, screen being whether someone voted in the 2004 GOP primary. There are also often statistical biases introduced based on the demographic profiles of respondents (at the target base selection stage, in terms of who actually responds, and in the analysis of results) – again, a process that introduces a significant skewing of results based on the assumptions and actions of the pollsters. The samples of error reported out in some polls actually grossly understate the true extent to which the many biases that go into the surveys, analysis and reporting can skew results. Simply, the way most "national" polls are conducted they are DESIGNED TO FAIL in terms of capturing trends driven by an insurgent with a breadth of support coming from outside the core of GOP voters as it ONCE WAS in 2004, or even June '07. The strength of the insurgency of Huckabee is exaggerated (where the strength of the move in national polling numbers has not, yet anyway, been reflected at straw polls, or in donations of time or money) because he is stealing support from voters that the polling organizations are best able to reach and report on. Paul's insurgency outpaces Huck's on many fronts, but some of the same pollsters will take longer to reach, identify, and report on the underlying trend using existing approaches.
    2. Anecdotes...
    A. To the reporters downplaying the Paul numbers in response to a televised debate or online poll - wake up! Isn't it possible that there might be more alienated conservatives, populists, Independents, and Democrats actually watching and actively engaged in responding to the debate than dead-enders who want an heir to the imperial throne?
    B. Another phenomenon that pollsters may be forced to come to grips with this election cycle is that in a surveillance state more citizens will simply mis-inform strangers/pollsters harassing them for information on their political views. This is not a trivial issue when it comes to identifying supporters of movements with agendas comparable to those underpinning the candidacy of Ron Paul.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:43 am |
  911. rob

    Because America is corrupt. If the polls are rigged then isn't it likely to think that when the real election comes that will also be rigged? If ron paul polled high in the straw polls but then lost the nomination it would seem suspicious. Anyways try not to get any nuclear fall out on Canada when America ineviteably gets nuked.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:45 am |
  912. Joe

    John Kerry = 5.2 million
    Ron Paul = 6 million

    Ron Paul > John Kerry

    December 18, 2007 at 8:50 am |
  913. Foothiller

    What's really interesting is that the majority of the responses above repeat the same message, some more eloquently than others, that the polls are not accurate.

    I was a registered Independent and switched to Republican so I can vote in my state's primary. Likewise I donated on Dec 16th. That was the first time I've EVER given money to a political candidate.

    Fox News won't print my comments. Because I say that Paul is being deliberately censored and libeled because he represents a threat to the corporate gravy train. CNN, FOX, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, and NBC are ruled by the profit motive, using advertisements from large corporations.

    Paul represents a genuine change in the way this country does business, and this threatens the bottom lines of these news corporations. There you have it.

    $$$ talks. I find it especially interesting that Paul is the only candidate with an actual grassroots support movement. How many money bombs have Rudy or Hillary had? Where are they getting their money?

    I think we all know the answer.

    Ron Paul '08

    December 18, 2007 at 8:52 am |
  914. Jeff

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because he is not featured in broadcast and print media. It is sad that CNN and other mainstream media outlets have been given orders from their corporate masters to ignore Dr. Paul. Thank you for your crumbs Mr. Cafferty.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:06 am |
  915. Mark Eckert

    He's not higher in the polls because they are ONLY polling Republicans that voted in the primary in 2004. That isn't where Dr. Paul's support is coming from.

    It's that simple.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:08 am |
  916. Rhonda W

    Telephone pollsters call likely Republican voters with a sample sometimes as small as 1000 people. I have never voted Republican therefore I will never be polled over a landline (which incidentally I don't even own). However, what I can do is vote in straw polls and Internet polls. So it is no wonder, that Ron Paul dominates both Internet Polls and straw polls. Both are a more accurate reflection of his unprecedented grassroots support.

    The previous commenter who stated that polls represent the last barrier between perception and reality hit the nail on it's proverbial head.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:11 am |
  917. Gabriel

    Well I see several reasons why Ron Paul isn't in the double digits, most of which have been mentioned by the comments above this one. A Guliani-Clinton scenario was picked by the media long ago.

    Being a Canadian, I can't help Dr. Paul as much as I would. Knowing that the next President will have a great influence up here, I wish you Americans the best candidate out there. With luck, its gonna be Ron Paul. With even more luck, his message will reach some of our folks in Ottawa.

    If you want to know why we take interest in him, just consider the little known fact that the Fed has 93% of the voting shares of the Bank of Canada and that we have the same illegal money system as you. We also have a constitution which clearly mentions that all currency have to be backed by gold/silver. No one here has woken up to that yet, you're lucky someone on your side has.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:15 am |
  918. Dave Brueck

    I think I'm an example of at least part of the answer: I have never registered a party affiliation, I use a cell phone, and I have never contributed to an election campaign. Up until now, I've never really voted "for" a presidential candidate – I always end up voting *against* some other candidate (using the "choose the least bad" approach). I don't know what segment of the population is in a similar situation, but I doubt we're included in most polls.

    What's interesting, though, is that for the first time in my life I am really voting in favor of a candidate. I donated money to the Ron Paul campaign last week, and I'll gladly donate again. I'm actually excited about politics (a big turnaround from being a disenchanted cynic). I'm even going to register a party affiliation so that I can vote in the primaries, although I'll vote for Dr. Paul regardless, even if he has to run as an independent.

    The low poll numbers intrigue me, but more so in the context of some related questions:

    1) Why isn't the Republican Party trumpeting the fact that Dr. Paul raised more money in a single day than any candidate in U.S. history (including John Kerry *after* he had the nomination)? Seems like just the sort of thing they'd make a big deal about. I'd love to see CNN get some on-camera answers from party leaders on this topic.

    2) Why has there been so little coverage of Dr. Paul in mainstream media? (you could make the case that the polls are simply a reflection of lack of media coverage) More to the point, if getting 100k people to give you money this early doesn't warrant media coverage, what does? Scandals? The blessing of the party establishment? Isn't this the sort of thing that makes for interesting reporting?

    It's one thing to say, "I like candidate X" (in some poll), and quite another to say it by giving money to that candidate's campaign – especially before being nominated. I would love to see some followup reporting on your question, which could be restated as "how can we reconcile the low poll numbers and large number of individual campaign donors?"

    December 18, 2007 at 9:17 am |
  919. James Burke

    On a related note....Paul has raised tons of cash, but has (to his detriment? or perhaps waiting for better timing), not advertised at anywhere near the rates that Romney and Giuliani have. Paul's campaign is like a coiled spring, while Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson are the Slinkies - moving downhill.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:18 am |
  920. ty

    Dear Mr. Cafferty,

    I am not sure why Ron Paul is not doing better in the polls, but it is certainly interesting to provide Dr. Paul more media exposure so that people may have the oppotunity to consider his views.

    Thank you very much.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:22 am |
  921. Maurice Kulp

    Hello Mr. Cafferty, I call you mister because I think you are a real gentleman. I want to thank for your coverage of Dr. Ron Paul. He seems to be blackballed by the MSM and that's a shame. I believe he is the greatest candidate, no, I know he is the greatest candidate in my lifetime. He loves our country and it's rule of law, the constitution.
    So, thank you Mr. Cafferty, your fairness is greatly appreciated. I'm 60 years old and I didn't think I would ever see anyone who actually stood up for the rule of law. May God, once again bless America.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:24 am |
  922. Robin

    Because it's people like Frank Luntz who put together the polls and people who don't wan't Ron Paul to win who orders the polls.

    /Robin from Sweden (Sorry for my bad english)

    December 18, 2007 at 9:24 am |
  923. Laura

    Because the pollsters are calling people who voted in the last primary, which means for Bush. Ron Paul can be expected to do poorly in that demographic. To win, he will have to bring new voters to the polls.

    Also because Ron Paul is often not mentioned in the polls and seldom mentioned in the media compared to other candidates. Right now Huckabee has twice as many Google News stories as Ron Paul. Almost every time the media does mention Ron Paul they talk about how he is a long shot fringe candidate and can't win.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:32 am |
  924. George Swinler

    Ron Paul's performance in the polls may be more of a reflection of how the polls are conducted: there have been comments over the internet stating that polling calls were biased toward other candidates. In some cases, Ron Paul may not have even been mentioned as a candidate running for president!

    December 18, 2007 at 9:37 am |
  925. Ryan

    I'm 26 and have never ... *never* ... been asked my opinion on any poll whatsoever. If I'm correct in assuming, I bet there is a mighty handful of people that are in the same position. Furthermore, it's easier for news agencies to pull facts off the "front runners." Why would they push their dead lines and force themselves to check actual facts and present a new candidate into the race when it's so much easier to continue to hammer on the top 2 candidates? Not only that, but there has been independent verifications that not only is Ron Paul being ignored by the main stream (corporate owned) media, but he is actively being discriminated against by cropping photos, name exclusion, and blatant infection of polls. The government "system" doesn't want Ron Paul, because they know he will actually do something to stop the corruption, stop the waste, and stop the lies.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:37 am |
  926. Nimitt

    We will flood the booths like we flood the online polls in which all can participate. It's incredible that journalists give the polls more credit than they are worth. Actual passionate voters will be awake at dawn, those selected by some "scientific" sample will probably care little and might even forget that it's primary day.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:40 am |
  927. DuffOMelia

    I think there are 4 reasons he's not higher in the polls.

    1. They're often polling "likely Republican voters". Many of Ron Paul's supporters have never voted before. Many of his supporters have never voted in a primary before. Many have recently become Republicans *solely* to vote for him. Many Democrats are voting for him because of his consistent position on Iraq and his consistent position on civil liberties.
    2. Many polls don't offer him as a choice.
    3. Many Americans seem treat elections as a horse race. They seem to want to pick the likely winner, rather than the one who most closely reflects their views of the role of government.
    4. Many people still haven't heard of Ron Paul. This revolution is just getting started.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:43 am |
  928. Patrick

    Ron Paul is not higher in the polls because in most polls his name is not mentioned.

    In those Polls where Dr. Paul is a possible responce, the questions are weighted and slanted in such a way as to misrepresent his stated views or the specifics of the scenario in question.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:49 am |
  929. Nathan Miller

    Too many special interests such as big oil, defense contractors, etc stand to lose a lot of business if Ron Paul (or his views) become more public. Special interests have influence over everything in our lives, including the media in many cases and polls, reports, and other events on television/news can be twisted into any message they choose.

    The internet has the least amount of censorship on it of any mass public news outlet at this point and Ron Paul is #1. The HUGE discrepancy between the internet and the other media outlets shows with practical certainty that censorship is the reason RPs numbers are still low. It's kinda like exit polls showing a huge discrepancy from actual voting tally's, something fishy is going on.

    Thank you Cafferty/CNN for a fair and honest report!!

    December 18, 2007 at 9:52 am |
  930. Allen Gaither

    The man just isn't getting a fair shake. How could anyone trust polls placing him in the single digits when he's blowing away every online poll, every post-debate text message poll, not to mention raising millions of dollars in a single day, multiple times, all from personal donations? C'mon.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:53 am |
  931. Mike A

    Dr. Paul isnt' even included in some Polls (like on Faux News). News channel polls or privately run polls can be manipulated in many ways to produce the desired effect. Online polls are different because they're not as controlled and can show what's really happening. Look at Larry King's current question of who we like for the Republican nominaiton – Ron is currently the LEADER by a landslide with 66% of the vote. I don't understand why Ron Paul isn't on Larry King and being interviewed more because he is resonating with the American people – his fundraising numbers prove it.

    The answer to the question is simple...CNN is not covering enough of Ron Paul – a man that tells the truth, has real ideas to make America great again, believes in privacy, liberty and adhears to the Constitution. This man deserves more coverage so his brilliant message can be heard! Then the polls numbers will soar!

    The vote is what really counts of course – the people will be heard then!

    December 18, 2007 at 9:53 am |
  932. Maryann Rose

    Jack, maybe you could ask Larry King why he had a 'Quick Vote' on his show last night and then never reported the results.

    It asked who should be the Republican nominee. The 'UNSCIENTIFIC' poll indicated that Dr. Paul had 66%, far surpassing all the other candidates.

    Just curious why it was never revealed. Could it be that CNN didn't like the answer?

    December 18, 2007 at 9:55 am |
  933. Tim Berger

    He's not higher in the polls because he's not getting the mainstream media coverage that he deserves. He's the only candidate – from either party – that truly advocated REAL change, and he's the only candidate that acknowledges that there are some things that are flat out WRONG with our government, and he genuinely wants to change things before this country falls to such a state from which we can never recover.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:59 am |
  934. Pliny

    I think that the level of support that Dr. Paul has is a more objective measure of his popularity than the polls which typically focus on past Republican primary voters from 2004 when an incumbent President was running unopposed. Dr. Paul isn't popular with the party insiders that voted during that election, but he is popular with all the Republicans, Reagan Democrats, and Independents who are going to be voting in the upcoming primary. A flawed methodology in polling has achieved a flawed result; its so obvious that I can't understand why those who conduct the polls haven't adjusted their technique accordingly.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:00 am |
  935. Drew Miller

    To me, the situation seems like a classic self-fulfilling prophecy. If you assume who the “major” candidates are up-front, and base your polls around those assumptions, then you’re going to get polls that confirm those assumptions.
    Bringing in $6M in one day makes a statement that, at the very least, competes with high polling numbers.
    If you look across the field of Republican candidates, he’s the only one with a consistent philosophy – and amazingly, he’s actually followed through with his promises in his time in government.
    In an era where corruption and apathy are the standard, he’s actually given me hope for the future again.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:01 am |
  936. Chris from Canada

    Ron goes beyond what most can imagine. He represents a role model for the world to follow. Ask yourself americans, what would I do with 40% more non-deflating money in your pockets each year? You'd be rich, generous, and properous. One only looks to Ireland to see how their recent tax abolishment structure deeming them the worlds best place to live – a far cry from the poverty fueled kaos only a few years ago.

    American gov't is corrupt and working for interests other than Americans.

    The mass media is tied to the same people who profit from bankrupting America – via the Federal Reserve scam artists. These men profit from 3 things:

    – War – and historically funding both sides
    – Excessive socialism – driving wedges between groups of people
    – Dumped down population – American education ranks 17th, and is EXACTLY what the US gov't wants and pays for.

    Wake up America. Americas Deficit is 9 Trillion and will never be paid off. The Rockafeller / Rothschild family is worth an estimated 500+ Trillion.

    Think about that next time you give a $20.00 donation to a charity.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:05 am |
  937. Shawn

    Reason beings, biased media. Cafferty you are not, thank you.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:06 am |
  938. Stefan

    I commend you sir. You are the only man in the corporate-controlled press to give the good Congressman the coverage and respect that he deserves; coverage commensurate with the amount of support he has.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:09 am |
  939. Michael

    I read a few comments and this one stuck out:

    "He may be low in the polls due to every time reluctant news stations report on Dr. Paul’s success they preface the good news with “He Can’t Win”. Is it just me or does it seem like the rest of the news anchors read that every time they mention him."

    THIS. Every single time I see ANY mention of him anywhere, either before/after/in the middle main stream media has it there "he can not win". The media in this country are now deciding who has a chance at the presidency and it's a very sad state.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:14 am |
  940. Jacques

    The 'official' polls sample only about 500 odd people that are already on a list and most of the time, he is not on those polling lists, or falls under the 'other' category.

    Those 'official' polls are nothing more than propaganda tools of those who wish to force their views on others.

    The only real polls so far was the ones shows in real-time after political debates on television, where voters voted via the telephone or internet. Even those poll results, where Ron Paul wins, his photo and name is to the centre and bottom right-hand side, so that the eye does not see him, but people like Guliani whose face is in the number one spot, even though he has scored lower in the real-time polls.

    These 'official' polls shown on Faux News and CNN should be dropped altogether.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:14 am |
  941. Tim Titler

    The proof is here on your blog. 635 comments left on the Ron Paul story, and a sleepy 53 comments left on McCain's. Yet, even on Monday's broadcast of Lou Dobbs (who I highly respect) Obama, McCain stories lead Ron Paul's achievement which was shoved in as a foot note.

    Jack, my question to you is how the media is getting this so wrong? Perhaps the media should investigate the many claims that Ron Paul is simply omitted from the polls. That would be journalism.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:16 am |
  942. Seth

    A lot of Ron Paul's supporters are young and own cellphones rather than landlines so pollsters won't reach them.

    A lot of polls don't include Ron Paul as an option

    Finally, there are plenty of issues with straw polls:

    I don't imagine most people know what goes on at straw polls yet they're used as political benchmarks to see who is winning. The first problem with them is that you have to buy tickets to them.

    Recently in a Florida straw poll, Ron Paul supporters found Mitt Romney supporters were voting multiple times with reports of even 5 year old kids voting. When a Ron Paul supporter called the straw poll organizer to complain she was threatened not to pursue the issue.

    A private San Francisco straw poll was recently shut down because "too many Ron Paul supporters showed up"

    An entire bus full of Ron Paul delegates from San Antonio were prevented from voting in a Texas straw poll

    December 18, 2007 at 10:16 am |
  943. george

    Ron Paul isn't higher in the polls for the same reason Dennis Kucinich isn't higher in the polls. Paul and Kucinich stand out in either party because they don't pander to corporate media, therefore they don't receive the coverage they deserve. 77% of daily newspapers are part of chains, 2 firms control over half of all magazines, and 4 firms control the overwhelming majority of broadcast and cable TV. As long as we're operating under a system with no competition, the rich people decide whose name gets heard, and that name is not going to be one of the candidates who stands for ruining that empire.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:18 am |
  944. Nick

    Jack! thank you for your coverage on Ron Paul. It was great! Next time, bring up how Paul's name is not on many call-polls, and other polling inconsistencies.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:19 am |
  945. Eric Nagy

    Dr. Paul is mostly lacking in the polls due to a lack in media coverage. Media coverage seems to ignore his immensely powerful message and focus on the same political mess as usual.

    Also, too many people are too naive to seriously consider his message, and weigh the benefits of a country under his rule against the alternative.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:19 am |
  946. Howard Smith

    Jack...As your provacative positions are unique in media, you certainly recognize that the main stream media only represents itself and its advertising revenues. Ron Paul is addressing the voting population...not the media. Most media decision makers do not like facing issues versus fluff image stories.
    Dr. Paul is an educated and highly consistent citizen who cares enough about critical issues to position himself as a "new gear" in the massive political machinery that the GOP and Dems have created.
    If the media really had any idea of his positions and how vibrantly they resonate with the voters, they could create a media story that would put all other candidates in the shadows.
    You may not remember, but there once was a motto, "Know the truth and it shall set you free."

    December 18, 2007 at 10:21 am |
  947. Mike

    Polls don't mean squat. In 91, no one thought Clinton would have won the nomination at this point. Jerry Brown was on the rise, Jennifer Flowers revealed their tryst, and Tsongas won NH.

    And Ron Paul does win polls- he has consistently won every post debate poll I have watched. He has won a majority of the straw polls held. How come those don't count? Do you guys do such a lousy job polling that you don't credit your own results? If so, I suggest you hire some new pollsters.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:25 am |
  948. Bill

    Mr. Cafferty

    Thank you for mentioning his name.
    He is not listed in the polls but he usually wins most straw polls.

    thanks again.

    December 18, 2007 at 10:28 am |
  949. Nancy Falster

    If you look down in the small print after all the rhetoric, you can see why Dr. Paul does not fare well in MSM media polling. there are 123 people polled "of likely voters", or there were 429 peopel polled. this is not just once in a while but it goes on with regularity. the headline should read, "Out of 429 likely voters, the result was this."
    How stupid does the main stream media think people are in America?
    We put up with insult after insult.
    A word to all who want to see a change, make sure you demand that voting be done on paper ballots and that there are poll watchers watching EVERY move.
    All our effort to restore the Constitution will be in vain if we settle for computer 'hacked' voteing and vote counting.
    VoteRescue.org is just one place to get some facts on what you can do in your county to make sure all votes are counted .

    " If all Americans want is security, they can go to prison. They'll have enough to eat, a bed and a roof over their heads. But if an American wants to preserve his dignity and his equality as a human being, he must not bow his neck to any dictatorial government."
    -Pres. Dwight Eisenhower

    I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me also remind you that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"
    -Barry Goldwater

    "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
    -Alexander Hamilton

    December 18, 2007 at 10:31 am |
  950. Ahmad Khalaf

    Clearly the media is biased against Dr. Paul and has always been biased against candidates like him in the past.
    But this