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December 13th, 2007
12:37 PM ET

Steroid scandal damaging baseball?

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FROM Jack Cafferty:

Roger Kahn dubbed them "The Boys of Summer" in one of the finest books ever written about American sports.

Baseball has long been the great escape in America. An afternoon at any major league park watching wholesome, fresh-faced young kids playing a truly great game at its highest level provided the perfect escape from the tedium of the job, the drudgery of the commute, the tensions of the marriage and the problems with the children.

A hot dog, a cold drink and the cry of "play ball," was always a lot better and a lot cheaper than spending an hour on some shrink's couch.

But they had to go and ruin it for us.

When Mark McGwire, with a neck the size of a tree trunk, was shattering home run records and waving his bat around at home plate like a toothpick, we should have known something was up. And it was.

Now comes the depressing news that a bunch of our heroes were jerking us around and have been linked in a 20-month investigation to performance-enhancing drugs: Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, Lenny Dykstra, Andy Pettitte, Mo Vaughn, Gary Sheffield... It's a long list, with dozens of names on it, according to George Mitchell's investigation.

This is a betrayal on a massive scale. The behavior is every bit as criminal as any politician who betrays the public trust. We came to watch you guys play baseball and you've let us down.

Here’s my question to you: How much damage will a massive steroid scandal ultimately do to Major League Baseball?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Robert from Redding, California writes:
Jack, How much long term damage is done to baseball will depend on how the scandal is handled now. There has to be accountability. Those cheaters who are still playing should be banned for life, and many of their records and awards invalidated. Only that will prove to the fans that baseball is serious about cleaning up the game. "Looking forward" is not enough.

Mike from Minnesota writes:
The scandal would be to turn your backs on the players who followed the rules. We have the St. Paul Saints minor league team. I think people will come to watch players who follow the rules. Think of the guys who didn’t use these drugs. I’ll never go to another game if they let these guys off the hook.

Billy writes:
I don't think steroids will ruin baseball at all. There is drug use in every sport. As long as baseball is starting to test for steroids and other illegal drugs, there shouldn't be a problem. In all honesty I don't understand why this issue is even as big as it is as.

John in Michigan writes:
It should do a lot of damage and it better. Every person who is in the record books linked to this should be given an * and stripped of their title, whether it be a Cy Young Award, MVP, or Golden Glove Award.

Terry in Florida writes:
I am not excusing the baseball players, but when will a similar investigation be done in the NFL? Does anyone really believe those monster physiques we see each Sunday are all natural?

J writes:
A culture of sensationalism simply will not care. Entertainment for the masses is all that matters. Welcome to Rome.

James writes:
Pine tar leads to harder drugs. What did we expect?

Maybe Jack will read yours tomorrow.


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soundoff (112 Responses)
  1. David Cissner,San Bernardino,CA.

    Jack,All This hullabaloo over steroids is just so much garbage. Steroids have never helped any player become a better athlete. The players still have to have the god-given athletic skill and do all the endless training. The only thing I can can see that steroids does is help the body heal from injuries. When I played football,I was given numerous cortisone shots. If were going to talk about cheating,let's talk about the owners. They have doctored their fields and stadiums,condoned corked bats and spitballs,stolen signs and sent messages in from center field to the bench and cheated each other among other things. It's all part of the game and the real fans know it. Let's get on to more important things,like impeaching Bush!

    December 13, 2007 at 12:57 pm |
  2. Michael Bruce

    Maybe the simple fix would be to provide steroids to the sports reporters and fans too. Wouldn't that be a hoot.

    December 13, 2007 at 1:58 pm |
  3. Jo Ann Matese, North Royalton, Ohio

    Jack,

    I love your new blog!

    I worked at a fitness center and I can tell you steroids do make a difference especially when taken by someone who already has a great physique and has some real talent.

    If they should find that these so-called athletes were cheating with steroids I think they should be given the Marion Jones treatment. She has been disgraced, fined, and stripped of her medals. What makes these overpaid beefcakes any better?

    No matter what the finding are, nothing will change, there is too much money on the line.

    If they are going to allow this type of cheating I think they should allow the stolen signs, the spitballs, and the corked bats as well.

    Jo Ann

    December 13, 2007 at 2:07 pm |
  4. Jeff

    Jack,

    Steroids have been around for decades now in baseball. The problem has just now come to light. Take a look at photos of Lenny Dykstra & Wally Backman from October '86 and compare them with photos taken in '87. Baseball will never be the same as it was when we were kids. $50 million paychecks and chemically altered players have cut the heart right out of the game. That's why the World Series instills no more excitement in our young people these days than the latest Playstation release.

    December 13, 2007 at 2:41 pm |
  5. William

    Cheating in sports has become the norm Jack. No surprise here. Nothing has value in this country any more. You can rent a Mercedes, get a subprime mortgage, buy a $100 dollare ticket to a ball game, overcharge your credit card and complain about everything.

    Nothing will change in sports. The public accepts this mess, therefore, why not forget it and move forward. I do agree that these sport figures should be subjected to punishment as did Marion Jones.

    December 13, 2007 at 2:47 pm |
  6. john

    No damage at all. The 1994 strike killed baseball and changed the character of the game forever. In 1994 I vowed to never go to a MLB game again and I have not gone since.

    December 13, 2007 at 2:56 pm |
  7. Alan from San Angelo, TX

    Steriod abuse will likely have the same impact as widespread corporate executive cheating via backdating stock options. A few bad boys will get slaps on the wrist, while most get a free pass. Exhorbitant executive pay didn't suffer, despite cheating shareholders out of millions.

    Expect baseball to enter a record round of finger pointing, then they might do what they should have a decade and a half ago. Funny, that's about the same time stock option awards came into play. Thirty percent of publicly traded corporate chiefs cheated, what's the number for professional baseball players?

    Steve Jobs, Roger Clemens... where have our heroes gone?

    December 13, 2007 at 3:04 pm |
  8. Brian Nancoo - Trinidad

    It won't damage baseball because the fans don't care about the 'how' part,they only care about the results.Most long-time sport fans know how athletes physiques have morphed over time.Find videos of All-Star/World Series/SuperBowl etc games from the 70's and compare them to the player physiques of today.The differences are astonishing.But no one really cares about the integrity of any sport,we just want to see great performances and this is fundamentally why this has happened to baseball.If the leadership had followed the earlier clues and their earliest suspicions,it would have never gone as far as it has.

    December 13, 2007 at 3:08 pm |
  9. Dave of Natchez

    This isn't high school or college. When you get paid to do a job you should do your best. Steroids are just another tool to allow professional athletes to perform at a level that gets them the $50 million dollar contracts. Who wants to go to a NASCAR race and see volkswagons. Pump them up pill them up shoot them up and Play Ball.

    December 13, 2007 at 3:21 pm |
  10. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Baseball hot dogs apple pie and Chevrolet are a thing of the past. Fewer people watch baseball. Apple pie makes you fat. Chevrolet gets poor gas mileage compared to most imports and to tell you the truth Baseball is way too damn expensive and damaging to health since steroids. Drugs have ruined the game and the players are nothing to look up to or anything a child should subscribe to be. That is just sad in my opinion, but it is a reality. I give my Thanks and middle finger to the losers that took those steroids and ruined the sport for the rest of us. I hope your all real proud of yourselves. What a waste of flesh.

    December 13, 2007 at 3:22 pm |
  11. David B.

    First Jack why in blue blazes should any good American boy or girl believe in a) the truth or b) playing by the rules with the example set by the clowns in Washington. So to answer your question Jack, who really gives a sweet rats ass anymore knowing nobody with eithier power or money is honest. Honesty belongs to the poor for they have nothing to hide.

    December 13, 2007 at 3:28 pm |
  12. Darrel

    They can clean it up if they want to
    To make them want to is simple
    Strike Two and your out.
    Out for life/ Yup and No Parole
    Striped of any records or Hall of Fame Honors
    Damm Simple!
    I'll guarnandam Tee Yuh it would work. The cheats would be history where they
    should be.

    December 13, 2007 at 3:33 pm |
  13. Bill

    Jack I think baseball is too big of a sport in America not to survive this scandal. But what really worries me is the young players that are coming up thinking the only way to complete in baseball is to take steroids. Players in all sports today seem to be willing to put their life at risk by taking steroids just to gain an edge. I think if baseball along with the rest of the sports that wants to put an end to steroid use, must be willing to erase the names in the record books of those who have been proven to have taken steroids. Plus they need to have in affect a good screening program and harsh punishments for using steroids. – Bill, Quarryville, Pennsylvania

    December 13, 2007 at 3:52 pm |
  14. J

    A culture of sensationalism simply will not care. Entertainment for the masses is all that matters. Welcome to Rome.

    December 13, 2007 at 3:54 pm |
  15. Billy

    I don't think steroids will ruin baseball at all. There is drug use in every sport, as long as baseball is starting to test for steroids and other illegal drugs, there shouldn't be a problem. In all honesty I don't understand why this issue is even as big as it is as. Major League Baseball now has tests to detect if someone is using illegal drugs, so why are they going back into the 80s and 90s when baseball wasn't testing for steroids and steroid use wasn't deemed illegal. if it wasn't illegal back then, then there wasn't any crimes committed. Baseball should move on and start with the players of today, not twenty years ago. They should only investigate a player and release his name to the media, only if they have hard evidence, not evidence as in they heard from someone else that a player has used steroids.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:00 pm |
  16. Pete

    This is not only a baseball problem, there needs to be a investigation in football, hockey, basketball, boxing, these sports are not immune to this problem either. Lets stop all of the superhuman feats and rely on your natural god given talents, not those from a needles which also are filled with dollars as well as drugs.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
  17. Taylor, Boulder, CO

    I think ultimately this will not effect baseball at all. It's been known for some time that steroids were widely in use in Major League Baseball. The only difference is that players are now being called out for it. As long as the sport still exists, it will continue to be America's favorite past-time regardless of scandal.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  18. Terry in Florida

    I am not excusing the baseball players, but when will a similar investigation be done in the NFL? Does anyone really believe those monster physiques we see each Sunday are all natural?

    December 13, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  19. James Johann

    Pine tar leads to harder drugs. What did we expect?

    James
    Kansas City

    December 13, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  20. Anthony Motta

    I think that the baseball organization should just forget the Steroid Scandal. Because, it is "NOT A STRIKE OUT!!"(Not fair).

    December 13, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  21. Craig

    Mr. Cafferty,
    As a teenager, it is dissapointing to see our pros in steriod scandels. However, testing players is the right way to go. I am a cyclist and cycling has done a lot to test racers, but gets a bad name. Yes, it is dissapointing, but it's what needs to be done. Also, the fmr senator said that there wouldn't be punishments, personally, I think that is redicilous. What kind of message do you think that will send to the players? Sports need to get tough and crack down on players using steriods and drugs.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  22. Mark G.

    They all seem to be doing it, so just draw the line in the sand and move on.

    Strict drug testing, if that is the will of the league, going forward is the answer. The past over and hand wringing is a waste of time.

    When will baseball implement a salary cap and offer truly fair competition. The real steroids/drug is money. As an example, how can the Devil Rays be expected to compete with a payroll of 30M against the Yankees 160M budget.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  23. Lois Hussey

    I feel no damamge at all..When I found out Santa Claus was not real,that sure didn't take the spirit out of me for Christmas..Or when the President has made bad choices,I do feel the next President will fix his errors..
    This finding has been a long awaited endeavor,and more people like the "finder" and more sitiuations in America need FINDING..I Love it!!
    L.Hussey

    December 13, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  24. Barrie Hussey

    Not much damage. It’s not as if Major League Baseball is a sport.
    It’s entertainment. We go to the Midway to see three-legged people.
    Why not the Baseball Park.
    Barrie Hussey
    Toronto

    December 13, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  25. Joe /Welland, Ontario

    Jack,
    if there was a pill available that would improve your job performance,
    wouldn't you take it ? I know I would

    December 13, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  26. Andrew M.

    Jack,

    None. The results of this report didn't come as a big surprise to anyone who's followed the last decade and for the most part, baseball fans knew it was coming. Some people don't even care whether there's steroid use TODAY! The world will forget, maybe even forgive, and move on.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  27. John Crespo

    They simply made us look like fools, cheering for them (Mcguire, Sosa, Bonds,etc...) knowing they were cheating, baseball is over for me, now my boys of summer are stars like David Beckham, Landon Donovan, Josy Altidore and all the Major league soccer players, good bye MLB's Yankees and hello MLS' Red Bulls.

    John Crespo
    Kearny, NJ

    December 13, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  28. Marvin Beatty

    It. Is. A. Game.

    Even though I'm from Canada and wouldn't like to see this happen in our national sports, hockey and lacrosse, let's get some perspective. If it were to disappear tomorrow, would the world really be worse off?

    December 13, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  29. Wes Grady

    Jack, you are starting from a premise that is incorrect. You refer to the overpaid ego heavy athletes as"Heroes" They are not heroes by any stretch of the imagination and as soon as you and the other rabid sports fans realize that we can begin to clean up the professional ranks. A player should be allowed to play until his first criminal conviction, his first anti-social outburst, his first unsportsmanlike episode and then he is off the team and out of the sport, permanently. Throw out the first half dozen and you will see a marked change in the way the players behave.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  30. Bud Kelsall

    I think it will be much like a political scandal. A lot of anger up front with a lot of cover-up later.
    Like deep throat told W & B
    follow the money

    December 13, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  31. Ken Bower, Titusville, FL

    Jack, I find it difficult to care much about how MLB might be damaged when our Constitution and the rule of law in our nation are being trashed with no apparent consequences to those cheaters.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  32. Curt

    Come on Jack! Baseball and no other sport will be hurt longterm by steroid use. There's no mystery to the steroid era! For the past twenty or so years, the U.S. culture has promoted an economically polarized society of the very well-off few and the rest of us struggling, not so well-off majority. Most professional athletes during some part of their career belong to that small group of very well-offs. There's no wonder that some athletes seek to find a performance edge that would put them just a notch above their competition, yielding them the larger multi-million dollar contracts, the more gigantic endorsements, and everlasting fame and legacy. It a means of securing their position in that elite group of well-offs.

    The key question here is how do we, as a society who loves sports and entertainment, change the economics of major sports at both the collegiate and professional levels so that the impact of athletic performance on our society as a whole is appropriately re-valuated compared to the societal contribution and impact of teachers, doctors, engineers, and others who make up the majority, not so well-off group. Bottom line, this country needs to revisit some of its priorities and make some epic changes. The economic compensation for athletes in major sports is extremely disproportionate to that of many key other occupations in our society when you consider their overall contribution to our society. Some how, this out of whack culture needs to be corrected. Without such correction, the hugely disproportionate economic prize for superior athletic performance will continue to drive athletes to find some means to cheat and gain a performance edge over their competition.

    Curt
    Southfield, MI

    December 13, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  33. scott Ives

    I agree that the players have put a black eye on the sport, but what about ownership and the commissioner. It seems to me that they are taking an approach to save face by using Mitchell and this system to be beyond reproach.

    For decades management knew steroids were being used but looked the other way so they could resurrect their sport after strikes, drugs, etc. Then Mark McGuire and others came to the plate pounding homers and the League made millions, and baseball once again became a family sport.

    In the meantime the NFL, Olympics,and other sports employed testing and anti doping policies to protect their sport. Why didn't baseball follow their lead?

    I believe they are all guilty and the entire sport of baseball needs to take responsibility for being greedy, and adopt new testing and policies so everyone can move forward with integrity ASAP

    December 13, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  34. Joanne Thomas

    The damage to baseball is nothing compaired to the damage to young people who learn that steroid abuse is so widespread among professional athletes.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  35. Dan, Minneapolis MN

    To paraphrase Charles Barkley, athletes aren't role models, and they shouldn't be treated as heroes. With free agency taking players from one town to the next, loyalty is a thing of the past, and fans are better off just focusing on their team and the game itself, not the players. As for the game, baseball has rebounded from strikes, collusion, gambling, and number of other things in the past, and still set attendance records in 2007. America's pasttime is resilient, and will move on as it always has.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  36. Larry Hitchcock

    The steroid scandal will not hurt baseball because baseball will ignore the Mitchell report. Unless baseball executives punish the offenders severely, it will be up to the fans to punish the sport. Take Bonds' home run record away. Strip McGuire and other heavy hitters of their statistics. Fire Bud Selig. Give the game back to the fans and return the Favorite Pasttime to what it was before the steroids users entered the game.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  37. Tom Bulger

    It won't effect baseball whatsoever. Dick Cheney lies, breaks the law, and George Bush protects him. Wouldn't it be ironic if honor and integrity survived in a game.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  38. Andrew Lumpe

    I love the game of baseball, so this scandal will not stop me from following the game with the same enthusiasm that I always do. That said, baseball is a game of
    tradition , statistics, and records. The records in baseball are some of the most sacred hallmarks in any sport. It does make me sick to my stomach to see them affected, and to think of all of the amazement over an individual's spectacular performances tainted by the knowledge that it was largely due to cheating. I would like to see some serious testing measures implemented to purge the game of this element of "phony talent", and I would like all records from this era marked with an asterisk. Anyone who is positively linked with steroid use should automatically be banned from the hall of fame. If Pete Rose can't get in, with his amazing (and real) talent, then those whose talents came from an injection certainly shouldn't.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  39. Herve Riou

    Players scream when Arod interfer with a player catching a ball. They said he does not respect the game. But the same screaming players let some of their teammates use steroids and turn a blind eye because the same steroids user can help the team to win. All the players are guilty and cannot be trusted. The game is tarnished until Players take actions to clean their locker room. No exceptions.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  40. Dotch

    It will make news for awhile. But come on Jack, it's all about money. There is no integrity in sports anymore. The bottom line is money. George W. is a baseball man. I'm sure he is just devastated by all of this.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  41. roy baker

    Jack, I'm 64 yrs.old born in milwaukee, when i was 10 12yrs. old my father who was a chicago fan use to take me to wrigley field or comiskey park to watch his and my hero's! ted kluzewski – minnie minoso- in milw. we saw hank A. -andy pafko – eddie mathews, warren spahn, I loved seeing these people! who do the kids of today have to idol?? hip-hop stars? football – basketball stars who are constantly in trouble with drugs spousal abuse etc> it's truly a sad state about our society, I beleive it go's back to the home . my father was a cop! so I knew better or else! roy

    December 13, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  42. Chris

    Mark McGuire's tree trunk sized neck?? Has anyone looked at the size of NFL players lately? Why are we focusing so much attention to Major League Baseball and looking the other way with the NFL? Does anyone believe there is less of a problem of steroid use in the NFL than there is in baseball? Seriously.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  43. Jeff Crist

    It is my understanding that prior to 2003 Major League Baseball did not have any rules that required testing and penalization for steroid use. The majority of usage for many of these high-profile players occurred prior to 2003 so technically they didn't break any rules. The question is do baseball fans consider it was cheating anyway? I think the majority do. But in a country where personal gain and entertainment are top cultural values and pro sports players make as much in a day as a teacher makes in a year, these things will easily be forgotten after they fade from the media headlines and we will continue to buy the tickets that finance the enormous salaries of these cheaters.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  44. Preston in NJ

    Jack:
    Baseball has become a multi-billion dollar organization, I`m sure the players won`t lose any sleep over this scandal nor will some of the fans who have looked up to those players. A few of the fans who have been fans for the past 20 years have been suspecting drug use, and have been turned away from the game for some time me included. Its not that big of a deal since the drugs have infiltrated our society. To some this might not be anymore of a shock than their neighbors kids on drugs anymore.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:20 pm |
  45. Micahel

    Did the fact that no W.M.D's were found effect Bush??? All This will do is show what type of commissioner Bud Selieg is.. He knew what was going on from when Mr Mcgwire (who looked like the incredible hulk) was swatting home runs like nobody's bizz! The thing that upsets me the most is how MLB tried yo make Mr Bonds look like the poster child for steroid use when this was an issue from when he was still a Pirate, on top of that when Mr Bonds broke Mr Arron's all time home run record he was no where to bee seen( rightfully so) but he was all over Mr mcgwire when he broke the season record!! In the words of the Donald "Bud You're fired"!!

    December 13, 2007 at 4:20 pm |
  46. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Jack I mean no ill will but All the Kings Umpires and all the kings men couldn't put baseball back together again. This steroid thing is just a rotten egg that the league has coddled and set on for far too long. The league failed the players just as much as the players failed the league. The first time a player came up dirty they should have suspended him instead up trying to sweep it under the carpet. There is always soccer hockey and football when the players are not murdering dogs. Maybe a good walk would do us all more good instead of plopping down and funding a bunch of derelicts.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:20 pm |
  47. Mike Bailey

    Jack, the last baseball game I went to other than minor league teams was the playoffs Los Angeles played in 1983 , the cost has gotten out of hand and I refuse to pay exorbitant ticket prices to see a bunch of spoiled men who get paid obscenely, some of these "contracts" the players getting are more money than the entire teachers at my grand childrens elementary schools. There is a major problem when we compensate "entertainers" and then we find out they "cheat" to get these big pay days. Role models for the "children" hardly unless we as a society want our kids to grow up to be drug addicts and rather than push to become an asset to the community, we teach our children to get ahead no matter what the price nor who get hurts in the process.

    Will baseball change, NO, they make to much money and all the agents and owners don't really care, they made more money last year despite the investigation and the Barry Bonds public fiasco, and for Bonds he refuses to be inducted into the "Hall of Fame" if they put the asterik ball in the museum, all I can say is do you really belong there for cheating? I don't think so, maybe for what he did prior to 1995 but everything since then should be asteriked, it's all suspect, as they say there is a cloud over it.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:20 pm |
  48. Robert L. White

    Hey, Jack...Love your comments!!! Concerning MLB, they lost me as a fan with the strike of 1994, and the lack of a level financial playing field. Here's hoping the current fan base wises up upon hearing this scandal and joins me in being a non-fan.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:21 pm |
  49. Allison

    Jack-
    The damage that will be done to baseball would and should be determined by us, the ticket buying, jersey wearing, home team cheering, memorabilia collecting public. We should do some self inventory on what we will have spoon fed to us to feed our morality on what is right and wrong in this world. Supporting cheaters and letting our young people look up to them should not happen. These men should be ashamed of themselves. Long live the *

    December 13, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  50. JD

    So lets get this straight- 3/4 of the players named had so-so careers, at best, but we're gonna say that Clemens, Bonds, Pettite, and others of the "record holders" cheated??? Obviously we want to punish anyone who succeeds, but ignore those who don't – baseball needs to move on, wipe the slate clean, start out with new drug testing and through away the asterisk – records are records, still obtained by skill of some form. If we start removing records, and putting asterisk's beside names, you might as well throw out the baby, cuz honey the bath water is long gone!

    December 13, 2007 at 4:23 pm |
  51. Buck

    Caff, the effect these finding will have on the game of baseball will be huge. The "natural" players, guys with hard work ethics and tough regimens, will be able to gain not only more spotlight, but playing time they may not have had in years past. It will also help our youth to realize who and who shouldn't be idolized throughout the national past time. You must've been seriously mistaken to think the names on this list were never users of performance enhancing drugs. Look at their baseball cards; rookie year until current. Tell me you can't see the difference in physical attributes.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:23 pm |
  52. Chris

    Mark McGwire’s tree trunk sized neck?? Has anyone looked at the size of NFL players lately? Why are we focusing so much attention on Major League Baseball and looking the other way with the NFL? Does anyone really believe there is less of a problem of steroid use in the NFL than there is in baseball? Seriously.

    Chris
    MD

    December 13, 2007 at 4:23 pm |
  53. Ian

    It is rediculous what these players resort to just to hit a couple extra home runs. Time after time, people learn about steroids and the risks that they pose and it's like talking to a brick wall. They act like they don't even care. They should just give Bonds's records asteriks and call it a day.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  54. Dennis Ferguson

    American baseball has always been played in a way that reflects our country in general.
    Cleaning up baseball may be the first step in getting our country running in a better more honest way.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  55. Ted Monkman

    Jack,
    I'm just crushed. As player, umpire and long time supporter of minor league baseball (and fastball I might add) I lived breathed and consumed what in my opinion is the greatest team sport anywhere, anytime. I know, I know, as a Canadian it should be hockey, but it's too gooned up. I follow the major league baseball teams religiously, and even entertained the idea of visiting spring training in Florida. My one major diappointment was the denial of electign Pete Rose to the Hall of Fame. Charlie Hustle epitomized, for every youngster, the all out approach to playing to win, and accepting defeat graceously. He is still the guy I single out to the younger players as an example to follow. Put Pete in the Hall of Fame, then Close it. Start id you wish a New Hall of Fame Druggies for the future.

    Ted

    December 13, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  56. Lynne Andrews

    Well, Jack I can tell you that a lot of Americans will react to this steroid report
    the way they have reacted often to the very wrong actions of the Bush White House....with utter COMPLACENCY.
    They will just sit back and say"""Oh well, it's really not that bad, afterall."
    And then they'll go on with their lives pretending everything in the world is
    just peachy.
    No body shows outrage anymore.
    Whatever it is.....no body is WILLING to get really, really upset over it.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  57. paul coke

    Perhaps Baseball owners/commissions need to get off their high horse and face up to the fact they did nothing to curve the use of drugs in baseball. It became a norm and bulking up, hitting home runs put butts in the seats, so, more money for the owners. So, players need to be the bad guys for doing junk when it wasn't illegal. Players, owners, their union all need to get real. Will baseball have a life after is turn of events, yep!

    December 13, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  58. Claus Gruner

    Ask any professional athlete if he could get that extra edge to stay ahead of his competion and the answer will be,"Hell Yes!" They are professionals and what they do to their bodies is their business. If the public is naive enough to buy into these super-heros, then it is they who are the dupes.This true of all sports, not just baseball, a sport, by the way, that should have died many years ago.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  59. Herb

    Jack,
    I'm sure most of us had no misgivings that various players were enhancing their abilities chemically. Some suprises may emerge, but it won't be shocking. The report will focus on players, trainers, and their suppliers, but it won't get to the crux of the problem. Owners, general managers, and field managers benefit from the extraordinary performances of players and win games or titles they otherwise wouldn't. They are the ones who pay the exorbitant dollars to players who are willing to do what Vince Lomardi encouraged. Win by any means. Let's see how many owners' names emerge among the guilty.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:28 pm |
  60. Mike

    Jack

    Who cares about how much damage it does to MLB. What about the damage it does to kids who look up to these juiced athletes? Tens of thousands of kids may be outstanding high school ball players and think they have a shot at the big leagues, but they think they need that little extra. We know it is happening now, kids all over the country who are saying to themselves “I want to be like Barry and Mark” as they are bending over and taking a shot of juice in the butt. But there is not room for tens of thousands and they don’t make it to the big leagues and 20 years latter they have to live with the results of the toxins they took in their youth. You ask about damage to MLB…. Who the hell cares? What about the damage it does to these kids? Who is looking out for them?

    Mike

    December 13, 2007 at 4:29 pm |
  61. Mark

    It will decimate the good name of sports as I believe it should. Do they not know who they're supposed to be playing for and inspiring? The kids! These guys get payed what each year as salaries? I say stick it to these players if they're guilty. Eject them from their hall of fames. Kick them off the team (without giving them these guaranteed signing bonuses suddenly everyone's getting without proving their worth and dedication to a team). And if they deny the charges and are found to have lied later on – ban them from playing sports for all time. You also have to hand it to the League for putting in place rules for testing that are wide open for skirting around. I've learned that when you put faux rules in place to save face and pretend that you're actually doing something about a problem, and then trust these professional numbskulls to honestly abide by them, you can always count on them to do the wrong thing.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:30 pm |
  62. James Unger

    Twenty years from now, this incident won't be remembered...
    ...( James Unger – Fremont, Ohio )

    December 13, 2007 at 4:32 pm |
  63. andrew

    if everyone used steriod, nobody cheated who cares i still love the game.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  64. Kelly

    What damage will it do Jack?
    Are you kidding? Baesball?
    After being lied into a war that has cost us billions, excuse me trillions and nearly 4 thousand of American lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, we are hardened, crusty and conditioned and nothing–I mean nothing affects us.
    Baseball, steriods, war......

    December 13, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  65. brian

    I don't care! Drug use isn't bad for sports. Drug testing is bad for sports. Babe Ruth...Cocaine? Dock Ellis...LSD? I don't care about steroids in baseball, Michael Vick, or Shaun Taylor, it does not effect my life in the least! How about focusing on real issues? Iraq, Afganistan, healthcare, the economy, Oh wait...did Britney lose custody of her kids?

    December 13, 2007 at 4:36 pm |
  66. Greg K.

    Jack, it is about time something is done about the rampant drug use in baseball, and all other sports, but I would hate to see this become a witch hunt. The players should be addressed privately, dealt with privately and that's it. From this point, all professional sports players should heed the warnings, and we should move on with the commisioners of each sport deciding what testing schedules are best for the sport and the players while adopt ing a zero tolerance policy.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  67. Jennifer

    Hey Jack. Your analogy hits the nail right on the head. Politicians betray the public trust on a regular basis. Baseball, football, hockey players and wrestlers are just following suit. It breaks my heart that these idiots are setting such a dastardly example for the children of the future.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  68. Jim Jensen

    It's all about money anymore. MLB itself has become a big business corporation that uses modern day [that is to say without morals] business practices. The teams rise or fall on how much revenue they can bring in. The players don't seem to take real pride in what they do so much as how much they can make doing it. Look at all the millions of dollars a player can make if he has the right agent and does reasonably well during the past season. The love of the sport is replaced by the love of money. So it doesn't really surprise me that all the big name players were using steroids or growth hormones to put them into a physical form that would lead to the "big bucks". What will it do to baseball? Pretty much ruin it. Whether or not it is ruined for good or will somehow come back depends on how the league and the players themselves respond. I do think there should be some really big caps on how much a player, and for that matter a team, can make in a season. There has to be severe testing for the next few seasons and there has to be a "big" apology to the fans from the players, the teams and MLB itself.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:40 pm |
  69. Brett R.

    Jack, since Mr. McGwire swung his bat like a "toothpick" in the late 1990's, the American people have been aware of the prevalence of steroids in the sport for years now, and yet revenue and attendance records for Major League Baseball were shattered this year and baseball is once again "America's sport." I don't think this report will diminish its appeal, especially with more stricter testing procedures in place and that the athletes named in this investigation have not been indicted or convicted of any crime.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:46 pm |
  70. Gary O Connell

    Baseball, as does our society in general, has long suffered from the most insidious drug of all "greed". It will cause, good, dedicated and gifted people(including athletes) to do anything to enhance themselves. The bottomline? Money. I would tend to believe that to the man, not one player used steriods to help their team. It was best summed up for me, when Rodriguez opted out of his contract with the Yankees, because a quarter of a billion was not sufficient to raise his family

    gdo

    December 13, 2007 at 4:47 pm |
  71. Carrol Grady

    Frankly, I think it's time we found some new heroes – those who actually accomplish something worthwhile in the world. I'm sick to death of most of the movie stars, athletes and politicians who seen to be our heroesm, and encourage our young people to look up to, and follow, those who are not ego-driven.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  72. Dan

    Jack,
    All superstar athletes in all sports are paid way too much for what they actually contribute to society as a whole. It's entertainment. We pay more to be entertained than we do for our own safety. The money these people can make is what fuels their motives.

    PS Love your book!

    December 13, 2007 at 4:48 pm |
  73. v bradley

    I am amazed but not surprised at all the news coverage over a game. we americans have once again allowed ourselves to sleep walk into another soap opera of drama. who really cares? none of this really matters. this game and all the others are just mindless past time. the debate over honest competition or enhanced performance really doesn't matter. we pay these folks cray money to feed our imagination or fantasies if you will and we continue to throw money its way. why not increase the salaries of people who really make a difference and stop feeding the fantasy.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:49 pm |
  74. David Gentry

    It's a sad situation that puts baseball back in a bad light. It's also ironic that Mark McGuire, the person who helped give baseball a positive jolt in the late 90's is also knee deep in the steroid mess. I only hope baseball management has the intestinal fortitude to go after its stars.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:50 pm |
  75. Patricia

    Who do we blame? The owners who want a "healthy" profit margin? The players who have a limited amount of time to play & want a "healthier" paycheck? Or the fans who don't want to go to a ball park & see an "average" team get the snot beat out of them by a "stronger" team?
    I've been flipping the channels & ran across Keith Olbermann,(yes I know, it's sacrilege to watch anything but CNN); who was speaking about a Mormon player, who had never drank or smoked or done any other type of drungs, yet, this player decided to do steroids in order to stay in baseball 2 more years.
    The game of baseball was invented for KIDS, it was to be played by KIDS, & just like everything else WE HAVE WRECKED IT FOR THE KIDS.
    So shame on us America.
    You won't find a KID under the age of 15 who hasn't been told by a coach someplace, "bulk-up KID, you ain't strong enough to play this game", & you know I'm telling the truth.
    How to fix this? Well, let's not induct anyone into the "Baseball Hall of Fame" for the next 10 years. That's right, I said no nominations. Then destroy all records of players from the years 1990 to 2007. Yep, that means no records for Clemons, Bonds, McGuire, or anyone else.
    Bet, that pisses off a whole bunch of people, don't it? I don't care!!

    December 13, 2007 at 4:54 pm |
  76. Ben Mirman

    None. It reflects the society we've become - tax cheats, lying, stealing, lawbreaking is ok as long as you do not get caught. A President who lies, a Vice President who is probably making a fortune on a war that few want, Congressmen who allocate millions for a bridge to nowhere, companies like Enron (who would still be bilking little old ladies if it wasnt fo a whistleblower), etc. Its no wonder kids put so little value in education, integrity, and self-respect.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:55 pm |
  77. Tom in Iowa

    I am 52 years old and have been a baseball fan all my life. When the players went on strike I began to fell that the game had lost some of it's original luster and was becoming a money making machine, I turned somewhat away from the game and moved on to other things.
    In 1998 when McGwire (Who's career I had followed since his rookie year in 1986) and Sosa fought it out I came back to the game and was once again interested.
    When Bonds went on his record breaking home run spree I began to question how a record that had stood for nearly 30 years could be broken twice in such a short period of time.
    Then everyone started talking about "Performance Enhancing Drugs" and a light went on in my mind.
    Not only had Bonds been doing this, but apparently so had McGwire, Sosa, Giambi, and ever other player that I admired. Now I question everyone, including all the really good players who are still playing the game.
    Personally I felt like a fool for not figuring it out sooner.
    So I decided to give up, and have not even watched a game since then.
    I hope that the Commissioner will do the right thing by following the example of Marion Jones and remove all the records that were posted by the players who cheated.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:56 pm |
  78. Mark in NJ

    It's even "getting ugly out there" with regard to our entertainment. I say this as a person who had a distant, late cousin who put together a consortium and bought one of MLB's early teams during the depression - just to keep them out of bankruptcy. He held them for about 3 years, until they both could become self-sustaining and had driven him and his associates into reorganization in the process. Back then, the saying was "It's not whether you win or lose; It's how you play the game". That's why people like my relative were willing to put themselves on the line; I doubt that it would be so today. In view of this, I'd like to see the "records" of the players who "cheated" be returned to the greats of the previous era who did not transgress. And this isn't just drugs, but cork-filled bats, etc. After all, with the shorter seasons previously, etc., even the current players who do not cheat have an unnecessary advantage over some of our historical heros - tainted as they may have been. [But, for example, Babe Ruth's alcoholism probably worked against, rather than for, him.] We need to restore some level of honesty in what our "heros" do.

    PS: By the way, the team in question was the Cincinnati Reds.

    December 13, 2007 at 4:58 pm |
  79. Roz

    Please clean house!

    If the players used steroids and set new all time records (Bond), they should never be entered in the record books. They did not earn the accolade. The cheated and stole the record. Shame on them and the organization that looked away.

    I have lost so much interest in sports as I now always question if enhancements were used. This just is not a lot of fun. Armstrong, Jones, Bond, and the list goes on.

    I am just so sick of it.

    Roz
    Atlanta

    December 13, 2007 at 5:01 pm |
  80. Rodney

    Steroids? Other drugs? Whatever. Perhaps people will now become disillusioned with professional sports and maybe... just maybe... start to pay attention to something that is important for a change, you know, like the War, Climate Change, Poverty, Education, Famine...you know... stuff that MATTERS!!!!!! Bye-bye baseball? Who cares.

    December 13, 2007 at 5:02 pm |
  81. Pete Fontaine

    The elephant in the room pardon the expression is the obvious use of steroids in the sport (??) of body building. The world would never have heard of Arnold Schwarzenegger if not for steroid use.

    December 13, 2007 at 5:03 pm |
  82. Glenn

    Jack
    I think ultimately the game will be damaged as far as the integrity of the sport goes. The ones who actually want to play the game will be lost forever, due to the fact they are not using anything to better them selves. They would look at using steroids or any other drug to better them selves as cheating. This will also hurt the sport for the youth of today, they look up to the Bonds, Giambis’ and McGuire as heroes for getting these records they are icons to them and they want to be them, just now they are called cheaters. Who wants to look up to a cheater?

    December 13, 2007 at 5:08 pm |
  83. Becky Chandler

    I could care less. Not only was there no rule against it in professional baseball at the time, it really doesn't matter.

    I go to watch a sporting event because it's entertaining, not because I think anyone involved is an upstanding person or has great personal integrity or anything like that.

    Probably my opinion isn't even relevant here, since I rarely watch professional baseball. And if professional baseball was to disappear from the face of the earth, it wouldn't really affect me at all.

    Maybe that is why I don't get into all the talk about the integrity of the game.

    Professional baseball players are pretty amazing. If you have ever been roped into making a fool of yourself in a batting cage, you know that anyone who can even hit a baseball at speeds around 100 mph is incredibly freakish.

    So as long as people want to watch this superhuman talent, and pay for it, I think that is great for everyone concerned.

    Ingesting steroids is probably not a real wise health decision. But if a guy (or girl) wants to cut their life in half for a big fat pay check and a few years of glory, that is really their decision to make. I might think it is a stupid choice, but that does not detract from their ability to perform awesome feats, which some people find entertaining

    Stop the hysteria, and lets quit letting this Senator get political mileage out of it, so he can get back to a few of the pressing problems facing the nation.

    December 13, 2007 at 5:12 pm |
  84. Judith

    Little to no effect on baseball and the fans. "For the love of the game..." is in the past.
    If the love of the game had any place in today's MLB, parents would not have to spend the equivalent of 1/3 of their month's rent to attend a single game with their children while enjoying one hot dog and a medium size drink a piece. The price of tickets, travel, parking, and a treat at the game no longer are within the reach of many families.

    December 13, 2007 at 5:25 pm |
  85. kendy

    The first time Roger Clemans broke my heart was when he left the Redsox for NY. Now again he has broken my heart...
    Who do we blame? I think the blame is on both sides of the table. The seasons are longer and fans expect to see great things game after game. I think many of he players are merely trying to keep up (although this by no means makes it right!)

    Damn, I guess my Clemans rookie card is now worth zilch.

    December 13, 2007 at 5:37 pm |
  86. Robert Andropolis

    Recently an NFL player was suspended for ONE YEAR for testing positive for marijuana. The Chicago Black Sox scandal of 1919 resulted in the players who being BANNED FOR LIFE. If Major League Baseball (and the NFL) desire to effect real change, they must implement harsh penalties such as these. The International Olympic Commitee stripped Marion Jones of her track and field gold medals. Take a clue Mr. Selig and do the right thing by banning the offenders and stripping the current record holders. Your organization could stand a refresher from the people at D.A.R.E. (Drug Awareness Resistance Education).

    Robert
    Montgomery, IL

    December 13, 2007 at 5:40 pm |
  87. Mike, Alaska

    Seems like yesterday that Americans were enraged every four years when "drug enhanced professional" male and female athletes from the Soviet Union, East Germany and other Soviet Bloc nations ran faster, jumped higher, threw further, lifted more, dominated endurance events, and literally owned such ancient sports as wrestling and gymnastics. Back then, as our opponents looted most of the Olympic gold and silver medals, we ranted and raved about the myth of "our amateur purity," damned the "professional corruption" of our foes, and demanded a level playing field on which all competitors had to follow the same rules. We were even so opposed to CHEATING that we banned the use of performance enhancing drugs from horse and dog racing. After all, one couldn't bet his or her hard earned money on races that had been "fixed" by criminals! Furthermore, any professional or amateur athletes who were caught cheating or gambling were damned by most of us who wanted our heroes to follow the rules so that the competition would be fair for all involved. Today? Major league baseball will slap the wrists of a few aging miscreants, few will insist that the microscope be focused on the giants of the NFL and NBA, and any major attempt to stop the problem will be focused on the athletes engaged in so-called "minor sports;" i.e., the ones that don't generate billions of dollars in revenue for the fat cat owners of corporate "Ball Teams."

    December 13, 2007 at 5:55 pm |
  88. Ray

    Jack,

    I think this is a media frenzy blown out of all proportion. These diversionary stories (along with reality TV) are the 'bread and circuses' of our modern-day Rome. They keep the masses docile and divert attention from truly important issues.

    To the degree there is any substance here, it is to pose the question of who – individuals or government – will regulate what we are allowed to put into our bodies.

    We all agree that drugs that create destructive behavior beyond the individual need to be regulated, but now we are down to stepping into what an individual can or cannot consume.

    This is a very slippery and dangerous road.

    Ray
    Kansas

    December 13, 2007 at 5:58 pm |
  89. Anna W.

    Puleeeez! Commissioner Selig is an embarrassment to himself and
    American sports in general. He commissioned a report, and when it was delivered and implicated him and many of our "baseball heroes", he doesn't even have the integrity and honesty to step up and take responsibility for his own actions or lack thereof.. And to top it off, he makes it clear in his speech today that he isn't going to commit to making anyone else in the sport take responsibility either. What a joke! I look forward to the day when professional sports figures and their superiors and owners acknowledge the fact that along with the fame and big bucks comes a responsibility to be good role models and mentors...America wants heroes, not paid cheaters.

    December 13, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  90. charles blalock

    i really do not care about the use of drugs in sports since almost all our meat raised in the united states are feed hormones. so what really is the big deal.

    December 13, 2007 at 6:33 pm |
  91. Liz Hornbaker

    I would like to know why we have wasted so much time, energy, and funds on the issue of steroid use. Nothing has been proven to state conclusively that the use of steroids has long-term negative affects on the adult body. Everyone acts as though the players have been committing crimes and/or cheating, yet it was neither illegal or against any rules when many of these players used the steroids. Considering the criminal activities of members of Congress and of the Executive branches of our government, what gives anyone the right to be so self-righteous about the behavior of our sports figures? What of the public's culpability inall this? We have placed these human beings on pedestals and held them to standards above any that we live by, insisting on lots of action in a game that is moribund (at best) for most innings.

    December 13, 2007 at 6:47 pm |
  92. howard ralphs

    jack, love your appearances on cnn. please keep it going. as to steroids in baseball, surely someone in the medical profession can figure out what percentage steriods add to performance. for example look at mark mcguires homers before and after steroid use. then take that percentage and add on to mickey mantle,roger maris and or babe ruths records and put that in the record books.im guessing that would give maris,the babe and the mick somewhere near 100 home runs in their best season.

    December 13, 2007 at 6:51 pm |
  93. howard ralphs

    jack how about getting someone in medical profession to figure out the percentage that steroids enhance performance(mark mcguire before and after) then take that percentage and add it to the records of maris,mantle and ruth. im guessing 100 home runs each in their best season.

    December 13, 2007 at 6:57 pm |
  94. rob

    Maybe, if we THROW enough money at education ... sorry, wrong question! Maybe, if we throw enough money at these snot nose bullies, they'll really be our CHILDREN'S ICONS!

    December 13, 2007 at 8:22 pm |
  95. Rapidray

    Jack,

    This whole debacle looks like a bad episode of "Bonanza".

    The deputized town barber, eloquently played by John Mitchell, runs around for over a year looking for the outlaws and today posted 50+ wanted posters all over town. Simultaneously, his barber instincts take over and he pulls the teeth out everything with a classic "forgive and forget" cheesy ending.

    Sheriff Bud Selig rides in behind him whoopin' and a hollerin' that justice will be served, then goes back to his gazillion acre ranch and counts all the coins these outlaws made for his league...and goes back to sleep.

    Enter the village idiot, Donald Fehr, throwing a square dance for the outlaws around the Mitchell report before taking the time to read it. His dead horse is still alive and well, but refusing to cooperate fully.

    Tonight, there is no joy in the town of Baseball Gulch. The former good guys (all bigger than "Hoss") are riding off into the sunset, but they robbed us all on the way to the Hall of Fame....

    December 13, 2007 at 8:57 pm |
  96. Jeff

    Jack, interesting that charges were filed against Barry just prior to the "REPORT". Can you say "the B (Bud Selig) set me up!"

    December 13, 2007 at 9:04 pm |
  97. Brice

    The investigation was necessary. It seems to me to have been much like the medical aspects of cigaret smoking. We all KNEW smoking wasn't good for us. We did it anyway, thinking nothing harmfull will come to us. Finally, we saw the elephant in the living room. Someone called a spade a spade. So it is with steroid use. We saw it, but denied it, saw the elephant in the room, thought it wasn't our revered elephant, until someone else finally called it an elephant.and not a hero! We have seen denial at it's core!

    December 13, 2007 at 11:15 pm |
  98. Ron Az

    I believe when they finished the investigation they should have approched the players and told them to stop or the would be kicked out of baseball. No one is thinking about the young boys who look up to some of these players as hero's. also I don't believe destroying a mans working career is necessary for just taking a shot, they play the game, give the public what they want and entertain the fans. some day the steroids will catch up with them. But I don't believe their names should have been brought out in the open.

    December 13, 2007 at 11:18 pm |
  99. Michael

    Jack,

    Today's news was only surprising to those who have had their heads buried in sand the last 10 years, like Bud Selig, and that's hardly an excuse for a man in his position. Bud Selig has been commissioner for nearly a decade, and the only reason he asked for an investigation was because he wanted to divert attention away from the fact that he has been an incompetent commissioner who let this happen on his watch.

    Look at MLB as a family and Selig as the head of that family. Now, let's say your family or my family had one kid out of ten who concealed that he or she were doing drugs, well we might be excused for not knowing; but, if 8 of the kids were doing drugs, and we didn't do something about it , and not 10 years later when the cat was out of the bag, we'd be considered incompetent parents.

    MLB baseball should hold all those responsible and the buck stops with Bud Selig.

    December 13, 2007 at 11:54 pm |
  100. Ty

    Hi Jack, it is quite scary how we have been turning our head away from this shameful disease in our beloved tradition because of our love for the game. Unfortunately, our kids and the rest of the world are doing the opposite. We must slap our denial on the face and get together to save this great game inherited from our father and grandfather. I believe commissioner Selig should offer an apology and his resignation (and please don't tell us that he didn't know, we heard enough of that from Bush). Please save the game, for the sakes of our kids, America's image in the world, and for god's sake.

    December 14, 2007 at 5:52 am |
  101. Harvey USN RET.

    Jack i truely believe that the use of performance enhanceing substances have been used in all professional sports for a long long time. After cheneys remark of a free democratic Iraq, send mitchell back to washington he needs to be tested.

    December 14, 2007 at 10:18 am |
  102. david meadows

    LOBBY REFORM, please!!!

    December 14, 2007 at 10:54 am |
  103. Tammy Wright

    Enough already. Why is this such a big deal for baseball? Do you think pro football players, wrestlers, and players of any other sport where size matters, get to be that big by eating green beans and drinking milk? They will eventually pay when they are impotent or suffer a heart attack.

    December 14, 2007 at 11:29 am |
  104. michellle

    What annoys me about the steroid use "scandal" is how black athletes like Barry Bonds and Marion Jones are villified for UNPROVEN steroid use, have their achievements stripped, endorsements rescinded, etc while white athletes doing the SAME THING are shielded.

    December 14, 2007 at 11:50 am |
  105. Mark in Dallas

    Bud Selig says......... "This is a Call to Action......and Take Action ... I will".

    Bud Selig can kiss my A** !!!!

    MLB Owners and the Players Association never enforced substance abuse. What did they expect? They don't need to start acting all "righteous" now.

    Bud Selig and the head of the Player's Union should be the first ones to resign for their combined lack of action.

    December 14, 2007 at 1:17 pm |
  106. Jacqueline

    WHY has BONDS been singled out. Mitchell stated this morning it is the policy of government and other great Sports Authorities NOT to punish the athlete USERS only the SUPPLIERS/PUSHERS. If this is the case WHERE is the outrage from the black community that BONDS is the ONLY one bearing the brunt of this steroid epidemic. I'm outraged and I'm white. And wasnt Lance Armstrong (God love him) accused (with actual EVIDENCE) by the French (before they were OUR buddies in war) for DOPING? NO FEDERAL CASE about white athletes or any other baseball player.

    WHATS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY? Its not just a war on the middle class and poor going on here. There seems to be a war on the black population because the MEDIA profiles a BLACK criminal EVERYDAY and I don't believe they cannot find any WHITE criminals! They don't see any WHITE STEROID users and there is ALOT MORE WHITES on that list.

    December 14, 2007 at 2:05 pm |
  107. Jack Luhrman

    Bud Selig, the money grubbing Shylock of baseball, did absolutely nothing while the steroid scandal destroyed the integrity of baseball. It took place under his watch. He must leave now. Mitchell's lack of spine in urging leniency reveals his lack of gravitas and the typical liberal policy of sweeping dirt under the rug.
    In the 130 plus years of baseball, Bud Selig, George Steinbrenner, Barry Bonds, and Roger Clemons are the Benedict Arnolds of sport. They betrayed the honor and good faith of the game. All the dollars that Selig takes pride in can never justify the corruption that has destroyed competitive justice and hallowed records and milestones.
    Marion Joes, guilty in like manner in track, heroically bared her soul, admitted her crime and humbly accepted her penalties. For her cheating, I am sad. For her grace, I am inspired. Compared to her, the millionaires who ruined baseball for all the faithful and informed fans, represent everything that is not only evil in sport but evil in life. These pariahs should take their millions and go live together on a remote island. Humanity does not need their values.

    December 14, 2007 at 7:18 pm |
  108. Garry Alfer

    Jack , this is just more of the same .....Shirk the truth and reality of whats been obvious to any thinking person for a long time,..... the Government shirks it's responsibility and disregards the laws of the land and this is just a trickle down effect into sports .......who really cares anymore ? and there is really no one overseeing it with the balls to take effective action.......just another example of despicable leadership from greedy multi-millionaire sports club owners and who see nothing more than the bottom line and to hell with the youngsters who will be taking pages from these notes and leading the country at some point in time down the road

    Garry...VANCOUVER B.C.

    December 14, 2007 at 9:19 pm |
  109. michael wright

    Re steroids in basball et al:
    Wasn't it common knowledge there were steroids in baseball? Fine getting confirmation from the inquiry...now what?
    Most of the top league players were on steroids, most records of recent times were a result of steroids, and basball as a business keeps on growing!
    Yeh blame the players, can blame the fans too, for supporting this steroid use by attending and spending, and enriching the owners. Where's the tirade against the owners, you can blame the players for following the steroid convention but to just balme the players is missing the point. You cannot tell me the owners weren't aware of the steroid problem, they all knew it,and said nothing, so condoning the practice, to support what they're all in it for .MONEY!!, not for the game.
    The whole mess stinks, and in the end lip[ service will be paid and the same situation will stand. There will be no talk of jail, the owners won't get touched,and the fans will continue to fill the owners pockets. Without question the same situation is apparant in football.
    So there you are america, the whole nation accepts that it's sports heroes are all on dope, but that's ok, normal service will continue.
    In american law there is zero tolerance for drugs, for anyone crossing the border, yet there is no zero tolerance for dope in 'americas' pastime......
    How can anybody support this drug culture in sports..........?
    America has, does, and will..............hypocracy is a national desease!

    December 14, 2007 at 9:29 pm |
  110. Michael McGowan

    Who's kidding whom?

    Baseball has honored its cheaters for as long as it's been professional, and maybe before that.

    Ty Cobb sharpened his spikes, to instill fear in players when he would slide into base. Generations of pitchers have doctored the baseball to achieve spectacular curve balls. And hitters have corked bats to get more pop. Sure, those are all against the rules, but people who got away with trickery often came out on top. And the keepers of the game would smile and joke about how clever those old devils were.

    Maybe baseball really does want to be clean. Nah. It just wants fans and money.

    If Congress weren't looming, ready to take away MLB's privileged status, we'd never have heard a word about steroids.

    December 15, 2007 at 1:15 am |
  111. Dianne

    Marion Jones was fined and stripped of all her medals. The baseball cheaters should be fined, and stripped of all their stats. The cheaters should be ashamed; receiving millions of dollars while ripping off the fans.

    December 15, 2007 at 2:36 pm |
  112. Richard

    The reason President Bush does not want the courts or Congress to investigate the tapes destroyed by the CIA is because he made a statement months ago that water boarding was not torture and was permissable as an interrogation technique. If the public saw those tapes they would know that it is torture and that he condoned it. He fears that it will be discovered that he ordered the tapes destroyed in fear that the media would discover and view them. He fears impeachment.

    December 17, 2007 at 6:37 pm |