December 12th, 2007
01:57 PM ET

Huckabee taking fire for Mormon comments?


FROM Jack Cafferty:
Mike Huckabee declined to answer when asked if Mormonism is a cult earlier this month. Maybe he was better off not responding to the question.

In an upcoming New York Times Magazine article, the former Arkansas governor is quoted as asking: "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?" unquote. This after telling the reporter he thought Mormonism was a religion, but admitting he doesn't know much about it.

Rival Republican candidate Mitt Romney, who is a Mormon, says he thinks quote "Attacking someone's religion is really going too far. It's not the American way."

Huckabee's campaign insists his comments were taken out of context, that he wasn't bashing the religion but instead was "illustrating his unwillingness to answer questions about Mormonism and to avoid addressing theological questions during this campaign." Sure Mike. Nice try.

Huckabee has been making big gains recently, taking the lead in Iowa and getting closer to Rudy Giuliani in national polls. He and Romney are also duking it out for support from evangelicals.

Here’s my question to you:What’s your reaction to Mike Huckabee’s saying, quote: "Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?"

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Laura from Savannah, Georgia writes:
I think Huckabee was pointing out how little Americans actually know about Mormonism. As a lifelong Democrat, Huckabee is a Republican I will vote for. He wants to help the little people too and actually believes the words of Jesus should guide the Republican Party. I've given money to Clinton, Obama, Edwards, and now Huckabee.

Trevor from San Jose, California writes:
Mr. Huckabee knows much better than that. He's a pastor and he's had training in seminary. He said he didn't want to comment on Romney's religion, but he knew he could get a jab in and play up it up as an "innocent question." It was an underhanded move and he knows it. I expected much more from Huckabee.

Richard writes:
I really don’t care what they say about each other’s religion. I personally am sick and tired of this infantile bickering over religion. It is childish and doesn’t address the issues they should be talking about.

GR from Atlanta, Georgia writes:
Doesn't this highlight how little Americans know about Mormons? The faith has not been particularly open to those outside of their own faith... Mitt Romney has had plenty of opportunities to explain some misconceptions about Mormonism, and has decided that he does not wish to discuss them.

Addison writes:
In all honesty, I think that Huckabee just didn't want to answer such a foolish question! It is a political landmine to get into a debate over religion, especially about one of your opponents. To talk bad about Mormons, or any religion, would make him seem heartless; bad move.

Will writes:
Jack, I don't know about Jesus and the Devil being brothers, but I am sure that the Republicans and the Devil are related.

Filed under: Elections • Mike Huckabee
soundoff (223 Responses)
  1. Dave ONeal

    I wish the politico`s would get off the pulpit and start addressing problems that face the everyday common folk......I care more about how I am going to afford to pay my heating bill and buy food .I really get tired of these politicians pushing religion down people throats,when most people are worried about how to pay their next bill,not if somebodies God will be mad if someone supports stem cell,or abortions.

    December 12, 2007 at 2:05 pm |
  2. Peter Shaw

    How often we hear our politicians say that religious belief if strictly personal and should not be an issue, then the very same ones make accusations to create an issue and elevate themselves with the voters. We should not forget that Mike Huckabee is an ordained Baptist minister first and foremost. Haven't we had enough of religion in the White House by now?

    December 12, 2007 at 2:11 pm |
  3. Ryan Smith

    Whatever happened to the principle 'separation of church and state'? Religion is distracting voters and candidates from more important issues such as the economy, homeland security and education. Candidates are quick to comment specifically on their religious views but are vague on more Earthly topics. Jesus, Joseph Smith and the Devil can't vote in 2008 so let's quit trying to win their votes.

    Ryan Smith
    Bethlehem, PA

    December 12, 2007 at 2:13 pm |
  4. Andrew

    I find it so discouraging that the national media will focus on the slightest disparaging difference between denominational interpretations of America's "unofficial" religion while ignoring the tremendously insulting insinuations of candidates towards atheists, agnostics, and non-Judeo Christians.

    Jack, it would be wiser to question the sanity and competency of candidates who believe they can telepathically communicate with omnipotent extra-terrestrials, or as they say, "pray to God."

    December 12, 2007 at 2:14 pm |
  5. Robert Vaughn


    I have come to the conclusionthat when politicians can't find a suitable way to address the issues confronting them they always find a smoke screen issue to divert the publics attention. This issue of Romney/Mormonism is just that, a smoke screen. At least when Romney is addressing the religious issue he can't flip-flop on some other truly important issue. I can't undrstand how Huckabee or any other politician could point the finger at any religion. Most religions are represented in Congress and as far as I can tell they are all pretty much morally bankrupt. That includes that "good Christian" moron in the White House. You have to sell your soul to the devil to become a politician in the first place, regardless of which political party you belong to. Hell , I would vote for a "Good Druid" if I thought he could address the real issues that need fixing in this country, and make the fix happen.

    December 12, 2007 at 2:16 pm |
  6. Tina

    I really worry about a president who can't distinguish between issues of church and state, who seems to be putting his religion out there as the reason to vote for him. Sure he seems like a nice guy, confident and easy going in the debates-even compassionate. But don't we already have a guy in the whitehouse who is religious? How much more proof does the conservative right need to convince them that religious beliefs don't make a better president. If there is a God-he's probably scratching his head wondering and worrying about the stupidity of his most ardent followers. Prove to us that you're smart- give us a reason to believe that you could protect our country and we'll do the praying for you.

    December 12, 2007 at 2:18 pm |
  7. Dan

    He's probably just kidding. After all isn't religion all about controlling what people think and believe? If most clergy were honest, they would admit they have no more proof that their religion is any better than the next.

    That's why I don't believe religion should be a part of this political campaign. All it really does is take attention away from the real issues of the day. But then, maybe, that's just too boring...

    December 12, 2007 at 2:20 pm |
  8. John

    Cane and Abel were brothers. A remark such as that from a minister regarding any religion is completely unacceptable.
    Pampa, TX

    December 12, 2007 at 2:22 pm |
  9. Don Kite

    Jack, don't you just hate all the political mud-slinging? Mike Huckabee's statement was absolutely out of line. I hope it comes back to bite him in the butt! If Huckabee thinks that Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers, why doesn't he just read the Holy Bible? Nowhere in the the Bible is there such a reference. As a Catholic, I've never heard anything so ludicrous! Huckabee should back up his statement with fact, not fiction. I was seriously considering voting for Huckabee, should he become the Republican nominee for President. Now, he has made up my mind for me.

    December 12, 2007 at 2:23 pm |
  10. Mike Burton

    It's a pretty poor thing when, if you can't beat a man on the issues, you try to beat him with his religion. It is ungentlemanly, it is un-American and, if that old song was right, it's un-Christian. It looks like Mike Huckabee is willing to mock a man's faith and ridicule a church of some 12 million people in order to satisfy his own bigotry and ambition.

    Judas got 33 pieces of silver, Huckabee got 22 points in the polls.

    December 12, 2007 at 2:28 pm |
  11. David Cissner,San Bernardino,CA.

    Jack,Once upon a time,in a fairy land far,far away,politicians actually campaigned by telling the people who they were and what they stood for. We didn't have the american taliban holding the candidates to a religious test,which is in violation of the Constitution. I don't care what a person's religion,non-religion or beliefs are. That is personal. I just want someone who is honest and has integrity. Is that too much to ask?

    December 12, 2007 at 2:30 pm |
  12. evelyn

    my response was "is he really THAT ignorant?"

    December 12, 2007 at 2:39 pm |
  13. Ron Noe

    Once again, doesn't matter! I honestly feel that Huckabee is the best the Republicans have out there. He really is! Considering the state of the Union and that the Morale Right has sinned more than the rest of the world together, who cares. If the American people vote more Republicans into Congress and the White House, they deserve what they get!

    Would anyone in their right mind continue down this Republican road of destruction and immoral behavior by voting them in office again? I am a patriot, 30 years in The Air Force Medical Centers and now a Disabled Vet. I get the overwhelming feeling that Greed and Lust and Power has won out and this country is doomed!

    Bush has ignored the American People for a sin full agenda of Making the Rich Richer on the backs of our children and our military.

    Huckabee is a distraction that's all. A Mormon would never be President and I am worried about Barrack Obama's safety! The Good Ole Boy Network in The Republican Party is responsible for every deception and treasonous act since
    1945! They won't allow Obama to win! This country is out of control corrupt, Jack!

    Just my opinion?

    December 12, 2007 at 2:40 pm |
  14. McKay

    As an ex-mormon I see Huckabee's question not only as valid, but as an example of proof that mormons do not believe or practice the christian teachings and prinicples of the bible. Mormons are taught to follow blindly. How can we trust a president to lead us when he himself is a blind follower?

    Salt Lake City, Utah

    December 12, 2007 at 2:48 pm |
  15. Bruce

    i agree with Dave, i myself am a everyday blue collar worker. move bills around to pay for gas to get to work so i can pay the heat, food, and sometimes alittle extra...
    the religion card is getting old fast.......but i do have a problem with the socalled prophet Joe Smith. he was portrayed as a hero. that is false!!!!!!!!! and i never hear of anyone asking mormons about the little known "SALAMANDER LETTERS"!! and that being said NO I WILL NOT VOTE FOR THE MORMON.........

    December 12, 2007 at 2:51 pm |
  16. Scott


    I definitely feel that one's moral compass and/or religion should be suspect when choosing a candidate. Mike Huckabee may have came off a bit harsh with his comment. If he would have said that he takes issue with certain elements of the Mormon religion, it may not have come off as sounding so harsh. Although, I am not sure that Romney would take offense, seeing that he has been trying to play down or distance himself from the Mormon church throughout his candidacy...why is that? Issue maybe...?

    Mike, let's try to be more suttle next time.

    December 12, 2007 at 2:54 pm |
  17. Scott, Charlotte NC

    Jack, this is just another example of Huckabee's dangerous campaign style. When the NIE released it's report on Iran's nuclear capabilities, Huckabee insisted he hadn't read the report and had not been briefed, but that didn't stop him from making an uninformed comment anyway. Same thing here, when asked about Romney's ties to his Mormon faith, he stated he doesn't know anything about it, but doesn't hesitate to take a cheap shot.

    And for the record, Lucifer was God's most beautiful creation, that is until he turned on the Lord and questioned his authority. Since Jesus is a part of God, and God created Lucifer, they're all related. If you ask me, Huckabee needs to study up on his Theology before he makes a run for the Conservatives. Or is this the best they can do?

    December 12, 2007 at 2:58 pm |
  18. STEVE

    Mormons believe that BUSH and the devil are brothers!!!!!!!!!!

    December 12, 2007 at 2:58 pm |
  19. Ray


    Maybe Governor Huckabee should issue one of his many pardons to himself for his religious sarcasim?

    December 12, 2007 at 2:59 pm |
  20. Jeff

    Jack, I never bought into religion playing a major role in the decision making process of a President. Hell...I'm more concerned about the PoliEvangelites who elected our current President and forcing their "good Christian values" down our throats for another 4 to 8 years. I don't think America can stand another term of "holier than thou" politics.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:02 pm |
  21. B.Kolli

    Maybe that is how a demogogue explains complex things to simpletons.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:02 pm |
  22. calmerthanyouare

    I find Huckabee's reluctance to share his past sermons while at the same time attempting to embarrass Romney with the Satan/Jesus connection cowardly.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:04 pm |
  23. William

    This comment shows a lack of understanding. It's scary to hear a potential leader of this country show a total lack of knowledge. Do we need a leader who doesn't even understand other Christians. What does it say about his understanding of other religions? History has shown that a lack of knowledge and intolerance of other religions as a dangerous quality to find in a leader.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:05 pm |
  24. Nick

    Huckabee is as ignorant as they come. Who wants a religious fanatic like Huckabee anyway? Romney is trying to run on issues, that I can credit him for. I don't see why any GOP would vote for any candidate except Ron Paul.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:06 pm |
  25. Dave Reynolds Berlin, MD


    Wasn't one of our nations founding prnciples religious freedom? Why do we attack a person's religion while at the same time profess to support that freedom.
    What difference does it make what a person's religion is. We are supposed to separate church and state aren't we?

    December 12, 2007 at 3:06 pm |
  26. Jeffery Brown

    Lets see Gas is $3.10 a gallon, Food Costs are up 15%, we have no "clear" plan to bring home our troops that are in a Civil War, and the people running for President are worried about what church a man attends. Once again the average citizen and his/her problems never reach Washington DC!!!!

    December 12, 2007 at 3:07 pm |
  27. James (Former USMC)

    His comment shows me that he is another Christian biget. I am a Christian but I don't believe my religon is the best and only religon. We need to become a United people again, not that we all have the same idea's and thoughts but be able to discuss them like adults, not like our government does now. With the comments that Huckabee has made it shows me that he is not a uniter but a divider. We need more Independent voters in this country because it has been proven that the Republicans and Democrates can't get anything done. Religon in our government is a dividing issue and thats why we have seperation of Church and State, we need to reaffirm this during the 2008 elections.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:10 pm |
  28. Mary Tampa, FL

    This is scary we've already had one religious nutjob in office for the past 7 years, we cannot afford another. It almost seems as if these religious zealots would like to bring about armageddon pronto. Enough of this nonense of blending religion with our government, it is going to get us all killed. If you are a preacher you should not even be able to run for government office, it seems to me to be a conflict of interest. Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar's, and unto God the things which be God's. It would do us all good to remember that before we cast our next vote.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:14 pm |
  29. Larry

    Maybe he thinks that is what Jesus would say? Apparently he doesn't know much about his professed faith either

    December 12, 2007 at 3:16 pm |
  30. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Well it makes me think of the separation of Church and State which no where does it appear in the constitution itself. That came from a letter By Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists. I personally do not care what a politicians religious beliefs are. Those beliefs may be important to them but have nothing to do with me. What I believe or do not believe in are my business and no one else's. When you run for President and get elected you are suppose to represent all Americans no mater their religious affiliation. Anything less is not acceptable.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:16 pm |
  31. Carle, Bridgman, MI

    Today's politicians are in denial. They deny EVERYTHING! I wish they were in de NILE! Since when is it un-American to attack one's religion? We've done that as long as I can remember, and I'm no spring chicken. Who do that voo-doo better 'n you do? You can't get any two religions to agree on much of anything. Gimme a good ol' heathen any day of the week. We won't be surprised when they're gettin' their willy slicked and won't think anything less of them when they do. At least they won't be uptight sexually frustrated holier-than-thous that have to get us in a war to relieve themselves.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:20 pm |
  32. Rey

    We have a moron in the White House, do WE THE PEOPLE need another one?

    December 12, 2007 at 3:25 pm |
  33. Don

    Sounds like Huckabee is a huckster who doesn't seem to grasp the essence or principles on which this country was founded. Guess he'd be a perfect second act to follow Bush.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:33 pm |
  34. JoEllen Hamilton

    "Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace"

    John Lennon -'Imagine'

    Separation of church and state is the ONLY answer.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:35 pm |
  35. Michael Bruce

    Maybe Candidtae Huckabee needs to purchase a copy of "Mormon for Dummies."

    December 12, 2007 at 3:42 pm |
  36. Teresa, Tallahassee, FL

    If the remarks were in deed taken out of context then they show either a remarkable lack of awareness of what the media may do with this tidbit or a certain reckless judgement in making a statement like this.

    Regardless of what Huckabee did or did not mean, religion is being used as an escape hatch by candidates who are backed into a corner in areas of real policy or when they are trying to appeal to a very specific pool of voters. Topics such as abortion and gay marriage seem to be the main concerns of the religious right rather then the majority of Americans who are more concerned with issues such as health care and the economy. You know when you hear about those hot button issues, the candidate is appealing to voters whose concerns for the afterlife are greater than their concern for quality of life.

    Is there a candidate out there – in either party – who is actually spiritual rather than religious?

    December 12, 2007 at 3:48 pm |
  37. Francie

    The candidates are selling their souls with this relgious blather.
    There are more important issues in my life – and everyone else's – than the religious arguments between Baptists and Mormons – or any other religion. Religion has no place in politics – its just more blah-blah-blah from candidates desperate for a vote.

    December 12, 2007 at 3:55 pm |
  38. Richard

    I really don`t care what they say about each others religion. I personally am sick and tired of this infantile bickering over religion. It is childish and doesn`t address the issues they should be talking about. I practice the Wiccan beliefs and can you imagine the mud that would be cast at any one of us who tried to run for president?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:04 pm |
  39. Norma

    I believe the bible was authored by writer to teach small children about humanity to whom they share this planet. Much like writers of childrens books today...Back then it was parting the seas and walking on water. Today it's Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. It insults my common sence to hear grown educated men prattling on about Jesus and the Devil being brothers. Lets stick to the meat and potatoes of governing the country.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:04 pm |
  40. Sue

    Huckabee always seems to pull this "innocent me" routine, when he is trying to slam his opponent. Whenever he starts to speak, I hit the mute button on my remote....his down home attitude is turning into slimey politician.

    Orlando FL

    December 12, 2007 at 4:05 pm |
  41. Michelle

    I am a Christian pastor, with family members who happen to be Mormon. It's a sect, not a cult, meaning that it's more harmless than harmFUL. Having said that, let me also say that making descriptive statements about someone else's religion doesn't serve anyone well. Because religion is about the relationship of a human being with transcendence, it's shaky ground to try to interject ourself into someone's else relationship.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:05 pm |
  42. Aaron

    I think it was a humorous comment. but i'm a democrat, so i don't really worry about those guys.


    December 12, 2007 at 4:09 pm |
  43. Katie

    Enough already with the religious horse hockey!!!

    I personally don't care what, if any a person has as his or her religion. Just as long as they leave me alone about it. It doesn't mean a thing! I prefer REAL issues like the economy, health care, and foreign policy. If the members of the Republican Party wish to have a theocracy, count me out!!!

    If you want to live in a country ruled by a religion, move to Iran!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:09 pm |
  44. Eric

    I feel Huckabee might have shot himself in the foot. He clearly should research any point before using it as an attack piece. If he claims divine intervention from God he should know God dislikes liars. So by lying Huckabee just discredited himself as rising by God's intervention. Hukcabee needs to stop pandering to the far right and work on getting the vote of moderate republicans.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
  45. Will Alexander


    I don't know about Jesus and the Devil being brothers, but I am sure that the Republicans and the Devil are related.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
  46. Melanie Walker

    God, save me from your "followers."

    December 12, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
  47. Alex

    I think the more ridiculous statement is Romney saying attacking someone's religion is over the line, while he and the other pro-war GOP candidates consistently associate Islam with hatred, intolerance, and violence. I'll still guarnatee that Huckabee knows more about Mormonism than Romney knows about Islam.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  48. Ann Indiana

    I think this falls under the category of "keep your enemies close."

    December 12, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  49. Bill

    Don't Christians believe we're all brothers?
    After all, we're all God's children, right?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  50. Pat Cummings

    How many non-Mormons and non-religious scholars know about the details of Mormonism? Huckabee's a baptist pastor (not that there's anything wrong with that), what do you expect him to believe without a sit-down lesson on the tenets of Romney's religion?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  51. sheree

    There is plenty of documented evidence that this is a Mormon belief. Google it.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  52. Reginald Bosek

    Huckabee did fine,everybody should consentrate on issues rather than what one man said..They are all guilty of some verbel slander.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  53. Dan

    "So it can be said that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers, in the sense of both being spiritually begotten by the Father, but it is a misrepresentation to say so without giving the contextual background." From all about Mormons which cites Mormon.org

    December 12, 2007 at 4:11 pm |
  54. Lindsey P

    Who cares already? It's time to stop bashing religions and start discussing the issues. There are so many things we don't know about Huckabee that this seems almost like a distraction method my 2-year-old son would use. His ignorance is not going to help get votes. Drop the "mormon" thing already!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  55. GR, Atlanta, GA

    Doesn't this highlight how little Americans know about Mormons? The faith has not been particularly open to those outside of their own faith, especially ethnic minorities. Mitt Romney has had plenty of opportunities to explain some misconceptions about Mormonism, and has decided that he does not wish to discuss them. It almost makes you wonder if there is something to hide. Huckabee has run a more above the fray campaign of any of the major candidates in either party. Interesting how he seems to be gaining so much support.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  56. Katheryn

    we live in a country founded on religious freedom. This includes the freedom from religion, but, unfortunately most Americans will argue with me on that point, meanwhile try and find the one item mis marked in the store and buy it.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  57. Matt Cochran

    It is a widely held perception of the Mormon religion that they believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers. If Mormons don't want people to think that they believe that, then why not just answer the question when it's asked? Really, Mormonism has been such an unknown, misunderstood religion in America; I think it's perfectly legitimate to ask more about the religion.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  58. Myk

    I honestly dont care if our President is religious, as long as he or she know where to draw the line in a democracy. This issue shouldn't get the attention it has been, I'm more concerned about a leader that can reach across party lines and restore the Constitution and end this irresponsible government spending.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  59. Robert Hammwe

    I just want to point out Mormons do not believe that. Mike Huckabee mis-informed on an issue or event Shocking. No wait it is not shocking, every time he says something stupid he claims he was mis-informed. First their was NIE report, then he there was that whole AIDs thing, and now this. When do we start holding our politicians to the statements they make Jack when?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  60. Joe Charleston, SC

    Jack, you and I both know that it's just another cheap shot that politicians take at one another, but in Huckabee's case his Baptist minister demeanor can get away with it. If Rudy had said that there would be a firestorm. It's time Americans start looking at the facts that Huckabee is just another slimy politician, who just happens to be a minister. Just look at how many times he's raised taxes, and tuition breaks for illegal immigrants? Lou Dobbs must be pulling out his hair at the thought of that.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  61. bob klepak

    While it is PC to say that religious tolerence is the American way, a Presidential candidate's religion, it's tenents and the candidate's belief in those tenents brings rationality into the political debate as we are all concerned with our President being a rational Commander in Chief. If believing in Missouri as the Garden of Eden, there being a Mrs. God and God & Mrs. God coming from other planets seems irrational to a voter, shouldn't that voter decide that this is not the person to be in control of nuclear weapons?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  62. Mariel New Mexico

    From what I've read about Mormon doctrine, which is strong here in New Mexico, Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan were spirit-brothers. Saying "the devil" instead of "Satan" may be unfortunate, but it does illustrate what Mike claimed, that he didn't know all the details about the Mormon religion. I guess most people think Satan and "the devil" are synonymous, but of course Mormons explain this in much more detail. Mormons are great neighbors.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  63. Sandra Csombok

    I studied with the Church of Latter Day Saints-Mormons, when I was in High School in Miami. I also studied with the Jehovah Witnesses, all before I became a Christian. One of them did teach that God had two sons, Jesus and satan.
    I tend to lean on the Mormon side because I asked a Jehovah Witness after I became an adult if they were the ones that believed that. They said, "No."
    That's why I tended to believe it was the Mormons that taught that. But you said on T.V. that they don't believe that either. Someone is teaching that whether they admit it or not.

    Sandra Csombok

    December 12, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  64. Richard

    I am extremely tired of the excessive emphasis on the Morman issue and I think much more is being made of it by the media then by the population – as I think is evidenced by your question. Did you not learn anything from Kennedy and the catholic issue in 1960?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  65. Adam N.

    My reaction, being a former Mormon is not shock and awe, but rather surprise that the media would get upset over this. If my memory serves me, this is how what the Mormon doctrine says, that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers, but it is even far more reaching than that, in that Mormons believe that ALL people are brothers and sisters of one another, Jesus and Lucifer included. Huckabee's lack of concrete knowledge about Mormonism should not be confused with animosity for his religion. For the record however, I will vote for neither candidate. When is Lou Dobbs going to run?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  66. C. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    Huckabee proclaims to be a God fearing man and minister, what God does he serve that gives him the authority to make such a statement about the Mormon faith. Huckabee is acting like a snake oil salesman and has thrown his religious teachings overboard. I am not a Mormon and have read nothing about the Mormon religion but my common sense and respect of God tells me this is very ungodly.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  67. Austin

    I believe the comment is a red herring...an unimportant distraction from the investigative questions people should be asking about Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney.

    Whatever the answer to Mike Huckabee's question is (and you can find a slew of Mormons, ex-Mormons, Christians, and outsiders that will give you different arguments) it is irrelevant...the comment was most likely, as the huckabee campaign maintains, a comment meant to jokingly illustrate Huckabee's unwillingness to answer questions on Mormonism.

    Mud-slinging efforts, whether they are attacks on Romney's Mormonism, Huckabee's preacher credentials, or Giuliani's marital problems, are laughable attempts to sabotage presidential candidacies in a manner that most Republicans (and Americans) should be enraged by...and that Ronald Reagan would have been truly disappointed in.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  68. Don D

    So what is wrong with believing all spirit children are son's and daughter's of God? This being so makes us all spirit brother's and sister's. Heck just look at this earth, many families have a good son and a bad son. I don't have a problem with this since I do believe in God as the eternal father. Who cares ... this is politics

    December 12, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  69. Neil Bailets

    I dont see why religion is such a big issue in this election? it shouldnt matter who is a mormon or an evangelical in this country. what should matter is their positions on social reform and foreign policy, not theological matters.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  70. Arnold Hanna

    Since Satan is a ficticious character like the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, then I cant see how he could be related to any mortal.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  71. Mary England

    I'm not sure if Huckabee is deliberately trying to give false info about Mormonism just to hurt Romney or if he's just showing his own stupidity. Either way he's not what we need in the White House.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:15 pm |
  72. scott emily

    jack, so since the devil is in the white house, dose that mean Mitt& george are brothers?
    scott mo.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  73. Pat Glass

    If you think the "Huckster" is saying strange things, you should hang around his wife. Her idea of finding out what it is like to be homeless was to spend the week-end under a bridge in Little Rock , Arkansas when the two Hucksters were in the Governor's Mansion. We now have a more normal Governor who emphasizes more contemporary styes of education.

    You people in Iowa, are being led down a prim rose path . Mike Huckabee did nothing for Arkansas , He did take a lot of money from his friends for suits.


    December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  74. Jeff Nielson

    I won't bother addressing whether Jesus and the Devil are brothers. What all American should be able to agree upon is the identity of ONE of the Devil's brothers – Dick Cheney.

    And the ISSUE which should unite Americans is: how to prevent another 'member of the clan' from ever attaining a high, political office.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  75. Salvatore

    What's my reaction? That he's just as much of a religiously bigoted yahoo as I had worried about.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  76. Charles Bell

    I am glad I caught this story on CNN.
    It reminded me to get down on my knees and thank God that I am an atheist.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  77. Pam

    Mormonism teaches that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers who competed for the opportunity to become the savior of planet earth. Jesus' plan won approval and Lucifer rebelled and became the tempter and deceiver of planet Earth.


    December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  78. Adam

    I do not have a problem with Mike speaking about his faith considering everyone wants to know what kind of person he is. I believe separately church and state is good, but that does not mean separating personal faith and civic duties. I am not sure what the context of his statement and would rather allow him to explain himself before blasting him on a statement that might have been provoked by someone else. Side note: I thought Mormons did believe that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers pleading with their Father God who would be the savior of earth.
    Just a thought to give another side of this discussion.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  79. Payge P.

    Huckabee wasn't attacking mormonism. Although he raised a legitimate question, he should have asked for a clarification about the "holy white underwear" that Mormons often wear–Even a little too out there for the all-about-faith voters

    December 12, 2007 at 4:16 pm |
  80. Bill

    Being raised a conservative Baptist in the Bible Belt< I understand the pressure from the religious right to put religion into the political conversation, but now being a gay – liberal – atheist I am very excited that they have thrown the door so far open that religion will be a losing point in the general debate.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  81. Curt

    I live in Utah and I am not LDS (Mormon). First off, isn't the US somewhat founded on the freedom of religion? Second, isn't Mormon a Christian faith? And finally, why isn't Obama's being a Muslim at least as much of a topic for the news stations? Is it only because Obama is African-American whereas Romney is white? This is just another cause of Political Correctness gone awry.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  82. Katelyn Crowther

    Dear Jack

    You nailed this one. Huckabee's statement is a wolf in sheep's clothing comment. He is a very sly and sneaky person who smiles while he speaks "in parable" and therefore can say plain faced..."did you really think you knew what I meant."

    He will speak and say everything with a smile arms behind his back (fingers crossed) be as slippery as a snake. As Mr. Huckabee says there are a lot of metaphors for who he really is...lets hope that comments like the one he threw out about Romney and Mormans really show his true nature for what it is. He will be unclothed and then what will the emperor look like?

    Katelyn In Connecticut

    December 12, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  83. Jonathan

    From the LDS website:

    So it can be said that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers, in the sense of both being spiritually begotten by the Father, but it is a misrepresentation to say so without giving the contextual background.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  84. Nova Relles

    We have a man running for office that belongs to a cult. Why is it inappropriate to point out a twisted feature of that cult. We do not wish to be deceived into beleiving Mr. Romney is a Christian as our country's founding fathers were. Yes, tell Wolf that IS what they believe, it is part of the Mormon doctrine. (See "Gospel Through the Ages", pg 15; "Mormon Doctrine" by Bruce R. McConkie, pg 192) Do your homework.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  85. David A. Morse


    His comment illustrates perfectly why I hate the GOP. Their pandering to the lunatic Religious Right is bad for America.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  86. Michele

    I don't know, do they? And so what if they do?
    I just want health insurance.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  87. Bill Hanson

    What crap!! The economy's in the toilet. Middle class people have to work two jobs just to eat and house themselves. The Republicans are wasting the lives of our fine young soldiers to create security for oil corporations and these guys squabble about some midevil nonsense and expect us all to think they're moral. The only voters who are paying attention to any of this are shallow, fearfull bigots. Let's hope they're not a majority. We did that dance once.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  88. Jeremy J.

    I live in Las Vegas witch has a large Community of Mormons. I can understand how people want to know more about where he stood with his religion. It was the stance of the majority of Mormons that black people are cursed descendants of Cain, and even when black people died the would still be in a position of servitude to whites. Romney needs to address these issues that many of black people have with his faith, Myself included

    December 12, 2007 at 4:21 pm |
  89. SusanDonim

    The answer according to http://www.lds.org is "yes".

    One example following a brief search on http://www.lds.org

    The Aaronic Priesthood: Return with Honor

    "The Aaronic Priesthood years are a preparatory period of our lives when we prepare ourselves in this earth life to be worthy to return with honor to the presence of our Heavenly Father.

    We cannot remember that we once lived with our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ and that we probably sat in meetings much like this, where the Father’s plan for us was explained. We cannot remember that Lucifer, a son of God the Father, a brother of Jesus Christ, rebelled against God’s plan and, in his rebellion, promised he would bring us all back home"

    This is just one source of many. Point is, this may or may not have been smart politically, and it may or may not be relevant, but it does appear to be true based on info from LDS itself. Wolf's statements to the contrary notwithstanding

    December 12, 2007 at 4:21 pm |
  90. Diego Mamani

    My reaction is DONT ATTACK THE MAN

    December 12, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  91. Ryan

    My initial reaction is its about time. Everyone always says that questioning someone's religious beliefs is off limits, but if someone believes what Mormons believe I am going to have to question their judgment and intelligence. If a person can believe that Jesus traveled to pre-columbian America after he was crucified, that once there he interacted with a race of white people (who anyone who has bothered to obtain a fourth grade level of historical knowledge knows did not exist), and that while there he left behind a list of rules inscribed on golden tablets for Joseph Smith to find several hundred years later, you have to ask what else will they believe? Will they believe that Iran has nuclear weapons even if our intelligence says that they do not? Maybe or maybe not. But, the world is too dangerous now for us to take the risk that the answer is maybe Our next president needs to possess intelligence and good judgment, and Mitt Romney's beliefs suggest that he possesses neither.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:22 pm |
  92. Don

    Jack i can only tell you the people Iowa are seeing one side of Huckbee if they had to live with his policys he has made in Arkansas and the double talk and side steping of the facts they would not give Mike Huckbee a second look.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:23 pm |
  93. Kiersty H.


    If anything, Huckabee's Mormon comment once again highlights his ignorance of things he should know. Remember last week when he didn't know what the NIE report on Iran was? As a pastor, one should be well versed in comparative religion. As a president, one should know matters of national intelligence. I'm convinced now that he doesn't know much about anything. Remind you of someone? A vote for him seems like it would just be a repeat of the Bush administration.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:24 pm |
  94. linda

    Religion isnt gettting shoved down peoples throats. Mitt Romney didn't tell us anything about his religious faith. He didn't lie. He just didn't tell it all. Just look in the world book encylopedia book M for mormon doctrinies. It's some scary reading. Spirit children, Christ is refered as the Creator because he created the world under God's direction, living people can be baptized on behalf of a deceased person so they can accept the gospel after they are dead. Sounds like to me they don't believe in the devil or hell. How about it Mr. Romney do you believe in the devil or hell ?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:24 pm |
  95. rob

    I believe the real question should be why did mike huckabee LIE when he said that he "doesn't really know much about it"? He knew enough to trigger the coalition of Christ like loving "Christians", placing before them the keywords of their often thirsting venom towards any that are not of their beliefs. If mike huckabee would have made no comment on any others religion and was more descreet on allowing his blantant, self righteous, bellicose stated positions on his own religion and beliefs, ie. remembering there should be a degree of seperation of church and state; NO ONE would even be talking about him.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  96. Claude

    I am not to sure if Romney can lead the American people through the shadow of darkness when he is mislead by his own book of faith. Romney had not anwered if he believes in the Kings James Verson of the Bible. Until this happens Huckabee should continue to hammer Romney on why he want to be lead through darkness with his misguided Jesus and the Devil.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  97. Bruce Cole


    Mike Huckabee just told Wolf that he was asking the NY Times reporter an honest question ("Don't Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?") because he believed the reporter was "well-schooled" in comparative religion and he (Huckabee) isn't. He also said he barely knows enough about being Baptist.

    Yeah, right. Huckabee's an ordained Southern Baptist minister, former president of the Arkansas State Baptist Convention, and formerly pastor of several churches. Either he just gave the most disingenuous, dishonest answer possible or the Baptists in Arkansas had one stupid leader.

    Bruce Cole, a pastor (but not Baptist...nor Mormon)

    December 12, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  98. Patti*TN

    It is a total shame in this day and time that politicians still have to profess strong religious beliefs to become electable. This past seven years of Bush and his lies made to the religious right, have set this country in reverse. And to pander to the same group, the existing Democrats also become GOP hypocrits.

    A God is NOT going to help America. Man has to... or Woman... Religious beliefs are retarding this nation and it is such a shame a man or woman who could really make a difference will not be elected because of a need for so-called "faith".

    Give me a honest, clear headed, uninfluenced, determined American Atheist any day.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  99. Lisa

    Huckabee is running for pastor in chief. He wants the evangelicals to overlook qualifications and past records and focus on his religion. I am surprised that he is being so overt about it with that question he asked.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:29 pm |
  100. Brian Wilson

    To respond to Wolf Blitzer's comment that Mormons don't teach Jesus and Satan are brothers: The Mormon teaching that Jesus and Satan are brothers is based on their concept of God being the Father of all pre-existent spirits. Since Jesus is the son of the Father and all other spirits, including Satan, are sons and daughters of the Father then all are brothers and sisters! This idea has been part of Mormon teaching from the time of Joseph Smith and continues today. The current "Prophet" of the LDS Church Spencer W. Kimball states in" The Miracle of Forgiveness", Pg.216, The Savior's Example

    "The importance of not accommodating temptation in the least degree is underlined by the Savior's example. Did not he recognize the danger when he was on the mountain with his fallen brother, Lucifer, being sorely tempted by that master tempter? "

    The LDS church has spent the last 150 years rewriting their history whenever convenient. Now, was Huckabee's remarks off base? No.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:30 pm |
  101. James L Hoffman

    As we people from Arkansas know, Mike Huckabee is in reality NOT the nice person that he portrays himself to be. This statement ws way below the belt. His statement that he beat the clinton machine 4 times here in Arkansas is also straying from the truth. It was the downfall of the Clinton machine that put him in office by the back door of the lieutenant governors office. There are times that Mike definitely has a problem with the truth. Ask him why he had the hard drives on all his computers crushed when he left office. He must be hiding something.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:31 pm |
  102. Jean

    Huckabee's comment was below the belt. Faith was never a big question before in voting for a presidential candidate; why now? People should pay more attention to Huckabee's stand on immigration vs. Romney's, and the health care issue. Wake up, people!!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:31 pm |
  103. Joseph Giles, Jr.

    First off, Gov. Huckabee's statement is taken greatly out of context. The person interviewing Huckabee IS a student in religion, and Gov. Huckabee asked the question "Isn't Jesus Satan's brother in Mormon religion?" The question was asked by someone curious to the answer, not as a demeaning remark against Muslims.

    Now, as a student of theology myself, Wolf Blitzer is wrong and Gov. Huckabee's question has truth in it. Mormon theology claims that Jesus is the "twice sired half brother of Satan." First, one needs to understand that Jesus, according to Mormon doctrine that I will cite in just a moment, is the "twice sired half brother of Lucifer." He was first born as a spiritual being by a sexual act between two spiritual beings, and then reborn physically by a sexual act between an immortal God and a mortal Mary. This is all found in THE PEARL OF GREAT PRICE, one of 4 Mormon Holy Books.

    In Mormon theology, Christ as a preexistent spirit was not only the spirit brother of the devil (as alluded to in the Pearl of Great Price, Moses 4:1-4, and later reaffirmed by Prophet Brigham Young in the Journal of Discourses, 13:282), but celebrated his own marriage to "Mary and Martha, and the other Mary," at Cana of Galilee, "Whereby he could see his seed before he was crucified" (Apostle Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, 4:259; 2:82).

    Gov. Huckabee may have been aware of the truth, but people who claim Mormons don't believe this doctrine are wrong. I have stated MORMON doctrine supporting this. For a Mormon now to say they don't believe this is for them to go against the creed and theology of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and the teaching of their second greatest Prophet, Brigham Young.

    As for Gov. Huckabee's decision not to address whether Mormonism is an acceptable form of Christianity or a cult was a smart move on his part. The fact is that when you compare Mormon theology to any other Christian theology it is radically different, indeed looking cultlike. The belief in multiple Gods, multiple Heavens, and the above Jesus and Satan are brothers belief assures to me that this is not an acceptable form of Christianity.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:32 pm |
  104. Dave

    Don’t many members of all the religions make such comments about others. Facts are usually secondary to them. Just another reason religion should be kept out of government.


    Deerfield Beach, FL

    December 12, 2007 at 4:32 pm |
  105. Susan Guffey

    I think the comment from Huckabee was an ignorant thing to say. He admits the he doesn't know much about mormonism. Why make such comment if you don't even know what you're talking about. I think that it was about getting the attention.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:32 pm |
  106. Michael Stein

    Mormons believe that we are all God's children in spirit so if there is a devil he is the brother of Jesus and our brother.
    The problem is:
    The word "devil" is a Greek word and the Hebrews that wrote the Bible didn't speak Greek.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:32 pm |
  107. Heather

    I think the media is spending way too much time parsing every single sentence that a candidate says. I don't care what Huckabee asked in the course of a two hour private conversation. I do care what he thinks about real issues that matter to me and the rest of Americans. This political game is getting ridiculous. Could we please stop with the junior high he said/she said and solve some real problems?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:32 pm |
  108. Clifton

    Having been a Mormon Bishop for a number of years, I was taught that Jesus and Satan were brothers in the pre-earth life. Difficult doctrine to explain in a few words, but it does explain Huckabee's question.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  109. TIm

    Well, I think his response is very accurate. Despite what Wolf or Cafferty may think, Mormons do believe that jesus and lucifer were brothers. Here is a quote from by Milton R Hunter, a member for the LDS church's first council of the seventy from 1945 until 1975.

    "The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this sprit-filled brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind." Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15

    For Huckabee to say that, would in no way be bigotry or out of line because it is in fact true. It may not have been the best thing for his campaign however.

    Feel free to go to http://www.whatismormonism.com to find out more about this cult 'religion' or what have you.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:33 pm |
  110. James S. Lenon

    Huckabee presents a shining example of why there should be a strong wall between religion and state. Which religion will he scapegoat next, Catholics, Jews, Wiccans?

    It's time to start taxing someone every time the word "Christian" appears in a campaign speech. If the religious right wants a religious political party they should be honest enough to say so and committed enough to pay for it.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  111. Cindy

    I studied the Mormon religion for over four years and I was married to a Mormon. It is an extremely secretive and concerning religion. Not only is it a very male dominating religion, where women are basically seen and not heard and can only attain the highest of THREE LEVELS of heaven, if their husbands call them up by their secret names; but they, also, baptize their dead by proxy, and they believe that the best Mormons can become Gods and Goddesses of their own PLANETS at the end of the world. They believe, too, that their will be more rightous women then men in the after life, so men will be able to have more than one wife. And they have their children recite in their wards that "I believe that this is the ONE TRUE church". Is anyone getting the picture that these people are wacko!!!! You can't make this kind of ignorance up.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  112. Mike

    As a Arkansan I can tell you that under no circumstances should he be allowed to run an entire country after the way he screwed up Arkansas! And, yes, I believe he really is so stupid that he doesn't know what the Morman religion is about. One would think he might take the time to find out, but he's not that bright either!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  113. Lamar

    I personally don't think there was anything wrong with the comment because there are a lot of questions about Mitt Romney's Mormon faith that nobody seems to be asking; such as what exactly was he thinking up until 1978 when he was well into adulthood, when the Mormon church officially decided to allow African Americans into any high ranking office positions and also the question of the churches elders who's values are suppose to be higher than that of any human. Which can even mean higher than that of the US Constitution. These questions need to be asked, so instead of the media continuously asking Ron Paul if he'd run as an independent if he doesn't get the nomination why not ask questions that are actually relevant?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  114. David Gentry

    Who cares what Huckaby knows about the Mormon religion.
    What does he know about issues like health care, energy costs, and the rest of the real campaign issues. I'd vote for the Easter Bunny if he could fix the real issues.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  115. Don

    Want to know what Mormon's really believe? Google "Mormon Doctrine" or go to You Tube and check out the Mormon Doctrin videos. You too Jack. You'd better know what you're talking about before you go off half cocked on National television. Mormons DO believe that Jesus and satan are spirit brothers. They also believe that there are 3 levels in heaven and that the only way to get to the highest level is to be a Mormon in good standing who is mattied to another Mormon in good standing within the Mormon temple. After these Mormons die (I believe Romney qualifies) They believe they will become gods, be given their own planets to rule over and populate those planets by having celestial sex with multiple wives. Don't believe it? Look it up! And be sure to check out the You Tube documentation on Mormon issue underware (this is not a joke or a cut...just the truth). If we are going to discuss Mormon doctrine, let's discuss all of it and TELL THE TRUTH! You stuck your foot in your mouth Jack. Go read the Book of Mormon, Doctrines and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price. These are the writings the the Mormon church puts on the same level as the Bible, and why not? They also put God on the same level as man, saying that He used to be one! Don't guess on doctrine–or news! Go to the source and get the truth!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  116. Alex Sabetta Meriden, Ct.

    Jack, What ever happened to keeping religion out of politics. Who cares if Huckabee understands the views of Mormons. I am so sick of hearing about ones religion. Lets be honest we as americans commit one of the seven deadly sins everyday. Unless you are an extremly religious person it is almost imposible to live in this society without breaking some of "GODS" rules. I am with Huckabee because he seems like the most honest person on the stage. I think it is sad that the media has attacked him for not knowing what the mormons believe in. We should be focusing on who is the best quilifed to pull us out of the hole that "Mr. Bush" has dug for us. Oh yea, Maybe you should be asking the questions at the next debate!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:36 pm |
  117. Fritz Barnes

    Wow, there sure are a lot of straw men being torn apart on this board.

    I don't think either Huckabee or Romney is making religion an issue. I don't think either has ever said that voters should support them because of their beliefs. The problem is that the press wants to make religion an issue. Please, stop asking. Let the candidates focus on the real national issues.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:36 pm |
  118. Christine

    This whole religion thing is just a ruse because none of these old white guys has a clue about the real world and exactly why I am an agnostic. FYI – agnostic, from the Greek agnosticos, means, "I don't know". Huckabee showed his ignorance but we need to refocus onto real issues and get back to separation of church and state. These candidates continue to reinforce how out of touch they really are. Jesse Ventura, who was pummeled in the media, was right when he said that religion is a crutch for weak-minded people. You only have to look as far as George Bush to see this!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:37 pm |
  119. Hester

    The Christian Right brought religion to the forefront with Bush in 2000. His so-called beliefs were important then, but turned out not to be very "Christian" if you ask me. The Christian Right now needs to put their money where their mouth is and support a true Christian. They need to decide whether it is more important to be a Republican or a Christian. Huckabee may not know all there is to know about Mormonism, but as someone who is a Christian and has studied Mormonism, I can assure you that it is a cult and they actually do believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers, as well as many other things that are not written in the Bible. The Mormons actually believe in modern day prophets who can routinely change and expand on the Bible. Most Christians feel that the Bible is the Word of God and to change the meaning and distort the beliefs thereof is pretty much the definition of a cult.

    I would actually be more interested to see one of these guys actually say something and then not backtrack when a statement is called into question, than to say that they really did not mean what they said.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:38 pm |
  120. Mike

    Mormon, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Bhuddist, Scientologist whatever.

    Borders, Security, Terrorism, Budget should be issues, not "how to persuade the ignorant majority who is more spiritual".

    If you ask me, every lawmaker in DC gets a pink slip. Fired due to lack of productivity. Cancel all earmarks. Give North America back to the Indians and apologize for the beheadings and waterboardings and ask if we can stay anyway. Create nuclear winter to freeze up the poles and glaciers, go back to the lead toys and the analog television like the good old days, let the farmers grow our oil, wear hemp clothes, and just listen to Jim Morrison all day.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:39 pm |
  121. John

    The top 1% of our population owns half this countries wealth, 8 trillion dollars.

    We're spending 2 billion dollars a week in a middle eastern country we invaded under false pretenses.

    Our Territorial borders are wide open as we spend Billions on the War on Terror.

    We have upwards of 40 million illegal immigrants in our country.( I am from California which has 10 million alone.)
    Most do not want to even learn how to speak English.

    We have lost over 3 million good paying manufacturing jobs in the last 6 six years to low wage workers in China and India. All to the benefit of Wall street and Corporate America.

    We have 47 million people in America who cannot afford, and therefore have no healthcare.

    and, the "America Dream" of Home ownership is coming apart at the seams

    It is impossible you're this Stupid!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:39 pm |
  122. Jennifer

    I wish that once, just once, there could be an election based on what the candidates plan to do FOR the PEOPLE. Politicians today remind me of a bunch of 8 year olds squabbling in the school yard. What crap!

    December 12, 2007 at 4:42 pm |
  123. Elizabeth

    I'm a democrat so maybe my opinion doesn't count,but first, PLEASE, no matter who gets in can we Please remove the relgion from the vote? The evangilicals got Bush in and I think everyone agrees that hasn't been good for us at all! Second, it shows more about most people in this country. We are ignorant. We know little about other countries religions (most are peaceful) or thier affiliations (ie. socialists, democracy...) Americans tend to think we are the best of everything and I'd like to believe the same but we have sold our souls to China, we're buried in debt due to ignorance, fear, and lies. And now we are worried over presidential wannabe's religious beliefs!? This is not important, but they could make it better if they signed statements saying they will think first about the country, constitution and people rather than their personal gain.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:45 pm |
  124. Gloria Delaware

    Mormons do so believe that Jesus is the "spirit" brother of Lucifer aka satan. One needs to only look into the JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES 13:282. This is only one of many "books" that mormons believe to be infallible.
    I know that a source for their religion today said they do not believe that Jesus and satan are brothers but of course they are going to lie and say that. Their religion was started and built on lies. Romney is just showing that he too is also a liar if he denies this, and that's why I would never, ever vote for any mormon. They are incapable and would never disclose the truth concerning their religion and what they believe.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:45 pm |
  125. Ann

    I hope a person who does not espouse to any religious group lets their name stand for President. Only then will people ask the why questions, start to think for themselves, and know that if God is around he certainly would not be impressed with this lot of self serving I candidates. We need human beings who are concerned about the state of the economy, getting along as a group, ending a war which is sending millions in profits to the corporate world.

    How about a group of candidates who come to the table and outline how they would work together if elected, with a business plan in hand and show that they have listened to their voters.

    Someone needs to step up to the plate for the environment God cannot be held accountable for manmade disasters.

    Huckabee needs to step down if that is the best comments he can make to an opponent. How in the world would he handle International affairs.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:46 pm |
  126. Mike

    I don't think Huckabee had any ill intentions toward Romney or Mormonism in his comment about Jesus and the devil being brothers. I think that comment has been overanalyzed and sorely taken out of context. It is important that we focus more on each candidates plans for the presidency and not on little insignificant intricacies that don't have anything to do with the job for which they are all campaigning.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:49 pm |
  127. Eli


    I am a Mormon, and I think that Senator Huckabee's comment doesn't need to be seen as negative, although that may have been how it was meant. Maybe It was an honest response. He did say that he doesn't know much about Mormon beliefs. I do think however that there is some irony in this as it seems that Americans don't really want a person's religious beliefs to be an issue in this election, yet at the same time there are Evangelicals and others throughout the country wondering if Romney were elected would the God he prays to hear his prayers (as if he prays to a different God). I think our ignorance has lead us to the point we are at now–mired in a war with no end in sight, scandal in Washington and dishonest leaders, and an economy and a housing market that is struggling right now. Hopefully, we will start asking the right questions.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:50 pm |
  128. Scott

    I guess if Huckabee is right then the truth does not matter because it is unpopular. I don' t care what Mormons believe. It's good to see Cafferty and CNN are still stumping for the left.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:51 pm |
  129. G DeWolf Shaw CFA

    Answer: Like Reagan Mitt Rommey will be the healer – so a Romney / Huckabee ticket and 400 Electoral Votes is the result.
    God Bless America

    December 12, 2007 at 4:51 pm |
  130. Patrick

    Here's what I know. Mormons are in pursuit of wealth. Their religion was founded by a cultist. They practiced Polygamy. They are secretive. They do not believe Jesus is Savior or Messiah. They like Jehovahs, Catholics and other secular religions use gospel contrary to King James as the word of God. But he's running for President and as we all know you can't be Christian and President under any circumstance. If so you would have to overturn Rowe vs Wade, end the death penalty. Never declare war and stop pandering and worshiping wealth and those who do. So let's just tell them we don't care what their religion is because it doesn't mean squat! Are you honest? Let's settle for that.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:51 pm |
  131. Brian Rogers

    Considering Huckabee's intolerant and obtuse understanding of Mormonism, are to expect the same from him, if elected, regarding the nuances of Middle Eastern culture and religion?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:51 pm |
  132. Gordon

    As a proud secular libertarian, I was just beginning to like Huckabee as the least objectionable Republican candidate. He seemed like someone I could disagree with, but not fear. But now that he's trying to prove his holy credentials to the American medievalists, he is saying things that scare me about his commitment to freedom of and from religion. Maybe he needs to make his own "Kennedy religion" speech to reassure atheists, agnostics, Pastafarians, and non-Christians that he considers them to be equal Americans too.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:52 pm |
  133. Yury

    The only issue should be the verity of the claim. If it is true, it is not an attack. If it is false, then it is.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:54 pm |
  134. B. Moss

    Yet another comment / question taken out of context by the media.

    Expected from unbelievers but belivers know:

    This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. Daniel 4:17


    December 12, 2007 at 4:55 pm |
  135. Scarlett

    Shame, shame, Jack. You, as the rest of the media, should have waited to hear the whole story. Right after you spoke about this, Mr. Huckabee came on the hot seat and told, again, what truely happened. Turns out it was exactly what he had said earlier, only now he had to apologize to Mr. Romney for the irresponsibility of the media. This question was taken and put in another story, one in which the media made, and placed to be the dirty little quote that you guys like to deliver to the stressed viewers. We rely on you, the reporters, to tell us the WHOLE, TRUTHFUL stories. Do you enjoy causing us to fight?

    December 12, 2007 at 4:57 pm |
  136. Jewel

    That kind of comment is what I expect out of Mr. Huckabee. But what I hope the people are seeing is that Mr. Huckabee is just like President Bush, in that they both believe they should make decisions based on what "they believe is right" rather than representing their constituency. They are both dictators who think they are smarter and more righteous than their constituents and believe the USA citizen should not only be forced to share this land with all who want to run our borders, but citizens should be taxed to provide for their education, medical, housing, Social Security, etc. They are not concerned that all these illegals have driven wages so low that the citizens can no longer afford all these luxuries for these illegals, and in fact, citizens are having difficulty keeping their jobs because so many are being outsourced to enrich multinational corporations.

    Mr. Huckabee is all too concerned with the welfare of the citizens of other nations and is not concerned about the plight of the citizens of the USA. If he is elected, there will be no relief for the USA citizen.

    Mr. Romney stopped the preferential education for the children of illegals over legals. Mr. Hucklebee will force citizens to stand in line behind the illegals, while paying for the education of illegals because he believes that is the Christian thing to do. Who do you want Amercia? Do you want to put your children through school or illegals?

    Mr. Romney realizes the importance of stopping employers from hiring illegals, the magnet that keeps the hordes coming. Mr. Huckabee believes the Christian thing to do is to let all who want to come, come, because after all we are all God’s children and a nation composed of immigrants. So USA citizens should be happy to share their nation, jobs, schools, medical and all other benefits to all who want them. Mr. Huckabee knows nothing of economics. So what do you want America? Do you want to be selfish and keep your nation, land, medical, Social Security, schools, language, jobs, etc? Than you better not elect Mr. Huckabee.

    December 12, 2007 at 4:57 pm |
  137. Les Hazelton


    I normally think you have your head on straight, but asking this question or your earlier comments about the debate today being boring just show me that your main interest is in causing controversy over petty useless issues to increase the network ratings. Todays debate was the closest thing to a real debate I have seen in this long campaign season.

    Try to pick some serious issue questions for a while.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:04 pm |
  138. Delia

    When Huckabee said in the previous debate that "Jesus was too smart to get involved in politics" he must have been on another planet. He avoided a Critical question by getting a laugh.

    Jesus was absolutely involved in Politics. From the beginning to the end he was Political. He spoke from hillsides, homes, the waters edge. He was pro-life, antiwar, fair in His judgements, spoke about common sense and that no one was without sin. He spoke about Leaders good/bad (Masters in His time) and good/bad employees (slaves). He believed people should work together. He loved children and believed they should be educated.

    Everything that was true in Jesus' time is true today. Everything "Old" is "New". The people running for president or dog-catcher think they have new ideas. History has shown us the way, it depends on whether you learn from it. Obviously most of us have NOT learned.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:09 pm |
  139. Elaine

    First of all, I think this back and forth between candidates about the details of their religions' respective theologies is completely beside the point.

    Having said that, however, I have to say that Romney is being completely disingenuous by denying that the Mormon church teaches that Jesus and Lucifer were the first and second sons of God (or, as Mormons call him, Heavenly Father) in the preexistence.

    I was an active member of the LDS church for many years, and if I heard that doctrine taught in Sunday School and Relief Society classes and over the pulpit once, I heard it a hundred times. Frankly, it dismays me that my former church is using semantics now to deny that they teach that. While it dismays me, however, it doesn't surprise me at all. More and more in the past few years, the Mormons have been downplaying or denying the more original of their beliefs in an effort to look more mainstream.

    That was what Romney's speech last week was all about, as well.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:12 pm |
  140. G.R.

    I don't like that statement. However, he did apologize and that I do like. But most of all, I like that he meant it when he apologized.

    At least he better have meant it, because Americans are fed up with the lies, and "we, the people" are building up our own backlash machines against such things and we're not backing down any time soon – if ever!

    December 12, 2007 at 5:16 pm |
  141. Kevin

    This story is clearly the media's making. Mike Huckabee has been drilled over and over again about his religious beliefs. That is great for him because it galvanizes a large sector of the electorate (evangelicals) when they see him being blasted time and again. He's seen as an underdog, soon to be martyr if the attacks continue. Why don't you take the time to read his book, ask him questions about policy and the direction he wants to take the country instead of stupid petty questions about religious differences.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:17 pm |
  142. ViewerInDenver

    I want a good president. Period.

    When candidates attack each other on their spiritual beliefs, I think the debate sways from real issues and towards things that don't matter to me as a citizen.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:20 pm |
  143. Ryan

    We have the right to say whatever we want but we need to speak with responsibility. Just because we live in a culture of anonymous internet blogging like this doesn't mean we should say/accuse whatever/whoever we want without consequence. Mr. Cafferty, it was incredibly irresponsible for you to give airtime to someone comparing republicans to the devil. By doing that you not only reaffirm the belief that people can get away with whatever they want, but also support it. Please only read statements that give real value to the issue at hand. Thank you.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:21 pm |
  144. Brenda

    Huckabee has unfounded remorse over the comment that he or a reporter said about Mormons believing Jesus and Lucifer (aka "the devil") are brothers. Even if this is not a "mainstream Mormon" belief, I was taught it as a child in the Mormon church in the 70's. I attended a large church with the name "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints".

    The church was/is recognized by the "high-ups" in Salt Lake, etc., and I was baptized there at the church and allowed to visit the Temple in Salt Lake City. I am no longer a Mormon, but am a "Bible-believing Christian" and do feel that Mike Huckabee and the reporter involved should not be in a "hot seat" over their discussion or comments of this nature. I was not baptized into a Mormon church that didn't like Mormons!

    Just like not all Republicans are pro-life and all Democrats pro-choice anymore, we all know that there are those that subscribe to one group or another and teach different beliefs than what "is supposed to be" the platform/doctrine that holds true. I was definitely taught over and over that Jesus and "the devil" were brothers.

    I am very happy and proud to see politicians being open about their spiritual beliefs, as our country is involved in a war that started over spiritual beliefs (or oil, take your pick) and I think transparency about these beliefs is long overdue. However, let's not make it a civil war in the U.S. or make our political process any more of a circus than it has been in more recent elections.

    As Governor Huckabee stated, people are "dumpster-diving". Let's not give them our time and let's use our time focus on who can best lead the U.S. to where it needs to be.


    December 12, 2007 at 5:22 pm |
  145. Greg

    Does Romney believe that Rudolph (not Guilliani) is a true member of Santa's team or does he embrace only the original orthodox eight? On behalf of Evangelical voters, Huckabee should question this as well, as it is equally relevant to their choice of presidential candidates.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:24 pm |
  146. Linda Archer

    If it matters, Mike Huckaby needs to look at his Bible for that answer.

    I am concerned about his hipocracy in bringing up any controvertial religious issue. He obviously did this to cause a bad light on Mitt Romney. Maybe, instead of running for president, Mike Huckaby should go back to Seminary and study a little more.

    If Romney wins, at least we will be able to dance in the White House. If Mr. Huckaby wins, dancing will be frowned upon.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:24 pm |
  147. Luke Nichols

    Mr. Cafferty,

    If the Electorate really researched Mormonism, and there are tons of books on it, (Providing Americans can still read), and there are videos on it, youtube videos, and even websites that talk about cults, such as John Ankerberg's website, people would realize that yes, Mormonism is a cult. And not your common garden variety cult, but a very DANGEROUS cult. I think the very fact Mitt Romney has any support from any Evangelicals, shows how far Christianity in America has fallen to. But, the LORD did say in the end times, through Paul, that Christians would become apostate. And I see more and more proof of this every day. The true American Problem won't be solved through Politics, or Policy. It will be solved when true born again Believers get on their faces before God; when our political Leaders get on their faces before God, and confess our individual and national sins. When we get to a point of brokeness, then we will be great again.

    God says, "I debase the prideful, but give grace to the humble."

    That is the #1 source of our problems in America: Pride.

    God also says, "Pride comes before a fall."

    December 12, 2007 at 5:33 pm |
  148. Flamin

    To bad the mods here won't post the facts about this topic. Why all the censorship here about this topic?
    The Truth is I am an EX Temple Mormon. The Facts are yes Temple Mormons DO Believe Jesus and Lucifer ARE spirit brothers. Many mormons don't know the difference between the classes, regular mormon, VS. Temple Mormon either.
    I went through ALL the Temple Endowments. I know. I don't believe Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. Lucifer, was a create Angel. He rebelled, took 1/3 of the Angels with him to earth where Lucifer is now called Satan. Jesus Christ IS come IN the Flesh, Jesus IS the ONLY Begotten SON of God. Period.

    This quote is from the LDS own web site. I won't post the links this time, maybe that's why you wont post my comments?

    Jess L. Christensen, Institute of Religion director at Utah State University, Logan, Utah. On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some—especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel “who was in authority in the presence of God,” a “son of the morning.” (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25–27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother. (See Col. 1:15; D&C 93:21.)

    December 12, 2007 at 5:34 pm |
  149. sarnold49

    He knew exactly what he was doing!

    Huckabee keeps saying that he has "fought the Clinton political machine 4 times and won"! When???

    December 12, 2007 at 5:35 pm |
  150. guy baldovi

    That sure is a lot of noise about 2 fictional characters, been wondering if the candidates were not fictional as well and this is only a bad dream.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:38 pm |
  151. Costa Walker

    Maybe he's just calling attention to the possiblity that mormons are not actually christian which would be his obligation as a religious. Their conclusions regarding the trinitarian nature of God are a little mysterious. If they are indeed heretical, and people are voting based on religious values, it's fair to point out that they are not of the christian faith.

    I'm not a theologian, but i would guess that essentially the mormons might be putting Jesus and the devil on equal footing by their apparent conclusion that the father and the son are not of one essence. It's an interesting point. I wouldn't assume it's meant maliciously.

    Jack, i think you are great. I like to see you on the news. You seem like the kind of person who points out BS when you see it, and when others ignore it or try to justify it. Thanks for your good work.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:39 pm |
  152. Nelson Ford

    Huckabe was totally out of line showing his ignorance as a trained minister. But more interesting are the emails you receive suggesting that Romney had a chance to explain his religion and didn't. I for one, didn't know this was a presidential requirement. He doesn't have to explain his church's doctrine nor did most Americans expect him to do so. He said what he needed to say and nothing more. I am confident if Romney were running as a Democrat he wouldn't be asked such questions.

    Nelson Ford

    December 12, 2007 at 5:39 pm |
  153. Roger

    Hi Jack,

    Love the Cafferty File. Now on to Hucks question. I think this is a very fair question for a Republican candidate especially one who claims to be part of a Christian Sect as Mitt does. When in fact Mormons are a far cry form Christianity. Where Christians, Jews & Muslims believe in One God,Mormons believe in Three Separate Beings (God the Father, Christ the Son & the Holy Ghost) who share a common purpose. I think on StarTrek they call this type of collective the BORG or was it the Q. In addition Mormons are not a Monotheistic Religion. They are a Henotheistic Religion. They worship God, Christ & the Holy Ghost while believing their are other Higher Powers out there who rule over other worlds. In fact the Mormons believe they too have a chance to become a god of their own world once they die instead of going to Heaven.

    If Mormons and Mitt are going to pretend to be Christians when they are not then what else is Mitt pretending to be?

    December 12, 2007 at 5:41 pm |
  154. Bill Raymond

    I'm not sure if Mormans believe that the Devil and Jesus are brothers, but I do know that southern Baptists sleep with their daughters. Cast not the first stereotype stone, Mike. And, whatever happened to, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" Huckabee is pandering to the intollerant fundementalist right and has shown his pompus, elitist side. I'll stick with McCain... a man of PROVEN character.

    December 12, 2007 at 5:43 pm |
  155. Felix Lopez

    CNN has been reporting that the comments made from Governor Huckabee about Mormons believing that Jesus and Satan were brothers, were infract not true. They are in fact true. Here is a link to the official LDS website static that they are brothers. I always like to use there own website because it stated by Mormons them selves so know they cant say It is false.


    December 12, 2007 at 5:47 pm |
  156. Karl Snow

    Ignorance about the faith of some 6 Million American Mormons seems to be exacerbated by misinformation and bigotry. Certainly Mormons don't hide it their faith. One can see their young missionaries everywhere and consistently grow in number. I recently read a report showing that the Mormons - more appropriately The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saint - "completes and dedicates" some 450 chapels every year - more than one for everyday of each week. Evidently this worries some "Americans?."

    Karl Snow

    December 12, 2007 at 6:00 pm |
  157. Brandon

    The reality is that this is just political soap operas, Our country is in crisis and this is what the media covers. How about trying some real news. http://www.nationalcaucus.com/120707_results_announcement

    December 12, 2007 at 6:01 pm |
  158. Flamin

    Right on Felix Lopez!

    Why is CNN reporting that it is not true that mormons DONT believe Jesus and Satan are brothers! Do they do any research into the FACTS, before they run these news stories? Are they Pro Mitt Romney, anti Mike Huckabee?

    There are Plenty of LDS doctrines, even their OWN web sites, where all this information can be found! Great Job Felix Lopez, at digging out the truth. You would make a good reporter;)

    I'm not for any of them, btw. I'm waiting for God, King of the Universe, the Alpha & Omega, to send Jesus Back to this world to take over this messed up planet, where men have ruled. Jesus is the Only Candidate for me. I don't want to be rules over by any Kings, or Presidents of Man.

    I'm waiting for the true King.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:01 pm |
  159. Kendy

    Maybe Mike should change his name to "Huckleberry"! The more he talks the more obvious it becomes that he is just another well connected idiot.
    And what's with this begging for gas money for the great big campaighnmobile? Here's a messege for ya Mike...
    I have to feed my kids and buy my own damn gas! You can put your gas on your own gas credit card (which I can't have because I don't make enough money!).

    December 12, 2007 at 6:06 pm |
  160. Mike Webb

    This mess is just becoming increasingly more silly with each passing hour. My advice to all the Presidential candidates is this: Tell the voters what you are going to do if you are elected. That's all I want to know.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:06 pm |
  161. Steve


    As a life-long Mormon, I can tell you that the comment made on CNN that Mormons do not believe that 'Jesus and the Devil' are brothers is not entirely accurate. Actually, Gov. Huckabee is more correct than he is incorrect. It's a complicated topic and one can parse it anyway they want.

    In short, Mormons are taught that Jesus and Lucifer were the first-borns of the Father in spirit in a pre-earthly existence and that they are 'spiritual brothers' (as we all are). Lucifer's plan for salvation was rejected by the Father because it did not include Free Agency. Jesus proposed a plan that did include that. Lucifer got all "bent out of shape" and the rest is history as they say.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:15 pm |
  162. Flamin

    Remember last week when Mitt Romney talked about his "religion" and said " the White House would not be controlled by his church".

    Just the Plain Facts again here.

    Church comes first, then Family, then your Job when you become a Temple Mormon.

    What the LDS Church President says, is more important. The Bottom line is, whatever the Church says, Mitt Romney will have to follow. He swore oaths to his religion to do what the Church Leaders tell him to do, that is first, the President for the United states is last After his family.
    Also a Temple Mormon Swears oaths NOT to reveal the secrets that go on in the Temple. They feel they are not secrets, but they are sacred. This is why Mitt won't answer, and pretends to act ignorant about his knowledge of his religion. He knows.......

    December 12, 2007 at 6:19 pm |
  163. Rick (Ashley Falls, Ma)

    At least Mr. Huckabee knows that being a Mormon means you belong to a religious group. Unlike our current president who thinks Mormons are the subterranian creatures from the movie "The Time Machine".

    December 12, 2007 at 6:19 pm |
  164. S. Stewart

    If ignorance is bliss, then Huckabee should be in Heaven.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:23 pm |
  165. David

    Is this guy for real! We have him as an option for the President of the United States
    No wonder the rest of the world is passing us by when this is the caliber of our
    supposedly top political candidates.
    We have Judges that can't judge and political candidates that haven't a clue.
    We wonder why our kids are on crack and shooting everybody? They don't have a choice.
    Every 4 years a minority elect the President of the United States in a popularity
    contest. Bought and paid for. No longer a public servent but a servent of the guys with the most money reguardless if they are moral or have the PEOPLE'S interests at hear. This just proves what we are getting for our money!!!

    December 12, 2007 at 6:30 pm |
  166. Patrick A


    Why do we have no context upon which to base judgment? We don't know the whole interview, I don't know nor do I particularly care. I am probably not, going to vote for a Republican, but I think that Gov. Huckabee and Sen. McCain have shown themselves to be honest men with a vision who will answer a question. This will probably preclude any chance they have for election.


    PS Why does your network refer to the President as Mr. Bush? He is the President, even if you don't agree with him. President Bush- try it.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:41 pm |
  167. Diane Jorgensen


    I'm a non-LDS woman and I have lived here in Salt Lake City most of my life. I wouldn't dream of joining the LDS Church due to their theological beliefs. But, I have no problem seeing a Mormon run for President. I may not believe in all of Governor Romney's Republican stances but that's because of other differences, none of which have a thing to do with being Mormon. All I want to see in the White House is a person with good moral character and strong ethics, someone with a sense of "fair play," not someone who deliberately misleads us into areas where we don't belong, i.e. Iraq. Leave religion and Christian denominations out of the election.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:42 pm |
  168. David


    Why are we woried about this idiot. We still need to get Bush to stop allowing the oil boys to screw us every turn. I don't get it we let every oil CEO get on TV and say we don't have enough refineries to keep up so gas is cheaper, but what have the oil companies been doing with the highest proffits ever? Oil companys said the same in the 70's then the 80's then the 90's now the in 2008 $3.00 plus will be the norm. Build some damn refineries already will ya!!!
    In the 70's every one was all for finding non-oil energy and it seems that President Bush pushed the US back decades in realizing true independence from the Middle East. Be free from the Middle East and bring all our boys home to rebuild our own infrastructure.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:42 pm |
  169. Rev. Donald Logan

    Dear Jack,

    I disagree whole-heartedly with Gov. Romney's comment that ones personal faith, should be off-limits in a Presidential (or any) public debate or campaign. My personal faith is the heart and soul of my character. I would invite anyone and everyone to question my Christianity.

    Suppose we were to elect a President whose personal faith was Satanic, or who throughout his or her whole life despised, Christians, Jews, Muslim, etc. of course in order to campaign for the office, they signed a "non-discrimination" pact, but their personal (private loyalty) was unrevealed.

    Have you ever heard of the term "Moles" suppose a disciple of Hitler, or Sadam, or Bin Laden acceded to the office of President, and placed into his cabinet like-minded supporters?

    The campaign for President today is not unlike a poker game. If you can't anti-up,
    you can not expect to win. I thought the people decided who should be elected, are they not intelligent enough to choose who is electible?

    By the way if I have your attention... Why don't you LET KEYES SPEAK?

    December 12, 2007 at 6:44 pm |
  170. Derek

    I have a feeling if Huckabee wanted to go after Mormons, he's got enough smart people working for him that he wouldn't have to invent something silly like this. I've lived in Salt Lake City almost my whole life and there are plenty of things the mormons really do believe that would scare people away.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:50 pm |
  171. JIm A


    How does this debate not constitute a religious test for office? Refer to the Constitution, Art VI. Then by extension, why is asking about Darwinism? I would hope that it would be about character, vision and political views, not a litmus test constructed by single issue zealots.


    December 12, 2007 at 6:50 pm |
  172. Carrie

    Why does CNN keep reporting that this is not a belief of Mormons?? When even Mormons have stated this is their belief???

    December 12, 2007 at 6:51 pm |
  173. mrs johnson

    Who cares what either say they are both idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I the part of idiot President has been cast already.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:52 pm |
  174. flossie samuels

    with all of the important issues in this country and the world, I am sick of hearing about Jesus and God. They hav e nothing to do running the goverrment.

    December 12, 2007 at 6:53 pm |
  175. Linda Archer

    Don't worry about some of the Mormons, don't worry about some of the Baptists.....Worry about some of the Muslims.

    December 12, 2007 at 7:03 pm |
  176. rob

    Brian Wilson, first of all, your reference of Mormon Prophet, Spencer Kimball is incorrect. Gordon B. Hinckley is the CURRENT Prophet or President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints! However, certainly, both are well loved!!
    Second, as Mitt Romney continues to encourage and suggest, let The Church, the Mormon Leaders speak for the doctrines of the LDS Church. It's easier, you do not have to dig so deep; http://www.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/answering-media-questions-about-jesus-and-satan. The doctrine is addressed TODAY, right on the LDS Church's Newsroom web page, in REAL TIME.
    Third, I would speak a little more carefully in regards to the "rewriting of history" or the rewriting of anything. To the common Christian belief of the Bible being their ONLY SOURCE for authority, the RIGHT to speak for God, and to act in His name, when God is supposed to be omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscience. Christian's surely must struggle when they pray. If God's only words to mankind can only exsist in the Bible, then that must completely explain the unity in "Christian" faiths, beliefs and doctrines. Certainly, following the Baptism of Jesus Christ , he enjoyed the pleasure of He, Jesus, meeting up with Himself the Holy Spirit as a Dove and speaking with Himself like a ventriloquist from the Heavens. And to think the Christians of today cannot even agree on the proper, Christ supported methods of Baptism. Christians may not be the owners of ALL of God's Truths.
    And finally, I absolutely disagree, mike huckabee"s remarks ARE off base as I recently posted, These Constitutional Forums for finding the next President are for the affairs, dignity and unity of our united democratic people. Huckabee showed the atypical Christian compassion for his own selfish betterment. It's amazing what a typical christian must do to actually become somebody. Forget, Conservative, big tent Republican Politics. Forget, UNITY! Just to be SOMEBODY!

    December 12, 2007 at 7:10 pm |
  177. kevin overmyer

    Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney might want to both consider putting a lid on the "God talk" very soon. The problem with candidates babbling on about their faith is that most of us simply don't care, I know I sure don't. As someone who has no interest in religion, but is deeply concerned about many other worldy issues, I find this GOP field quite frightening. Religion is a mechanism used to divide and oppress ordinary people and is used by our leaders as a vehicle to appear more ordinary, in many cases. Keep whatever God you believe in out of the issues. It does a disservice to those of use who seek the truth and believe that real solutions to our countries problems are out there and are attainable.

    December 12, 2007 at 7:12 pm |
  178. Rev. Donald Logan

    Mc Cafferty Blogs

    . Ryan Smith December 12th, 2007 2:13 pm ET

    1. Whatever happened to the principle ’separation of church and state’?

    Jesus dealt with that issue when he told his disciples to "Render to Caesar, the things that belong to Caesar and unto God those things which belong to God. Well the nation may belong to Caesar, and he is already reaping his taxes. But the Church belongs to God, and if the Governments wants to be Associated, Let them TITHE.

    2. Religion is distracting voters and candidates from more important issues such as the economy, homeland security and education.

    It is the abscense or Religion that is weakening the issues of economy, homeland security and education. The INTEGRITY of religion is what stabilizes the economy and homeland security suffers because all of the protectors are fighting and dying away from the homeland. Don't get me started on the virtues of religion in the course of education. It was preachers and teachers which educated the professionals and the politicians, Religion is the foundation of Diplomacy.

    By the way: I am the one who coined the phrase "RELIGION AND POLITICS WILL MIX IN '76 (1974 during Jimmy Carter's campaign).

    3. Candidates are quick to comment specifically on their religious views but are vague on more Earthly topics. Jesus, Joseph Smith and the Devil can’t vote in 2008 so let’s quit trying to win their votes.

    Maybe not, but Christians, Mormons, and Atheist can. LET ALAN KEYES SPEAK

    Rev. Logan
    Commonwealth Body

    December 12, 2007 at 7:13 pm |
  179. Mike

    I've been a Methodist, I've been a Baptist. Now, I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I feel like I am more of a Christian than I've ever been.

    Mitt Romney is fortunate to have been a Mormon all of his life.

    December 12, 2007 at 7:15 pm |
  180. Jim Singer

    Jack to me it comes as no surprise that someone could ask if the Mormans believe that the Devil and Jesus were brothers. I grew up in Utah and, in the early 50'S our family lived in the small town of Mantua. Total population of the town was about 200 and out of the 200 we were one of three familys that were not Morman. I was just a kid of about 10 years old and, all of the activities like sports, camping trips and, just simple get togethers for kids, were all organized and run by the Morman Church. At my young age I wanted to do all of the things that other kids were doing and for me to be involved, the church leaders in Mantua told me that I would have to attend Church on Sundays and Mutual on Tuesdays. I did this for quite a long time and, I can remember very well that as kids, we were told that Jesus and the Devil were brothers. Jesus was good and, his brother was evil so, God cast the evil brother into Hell. Now that may not be what they teach today but, it sure was what they told us back then. I never joined the Morman Church because I did play softball on the Mantua Church team. I was the pitcher, won every game that we played, and took the team to the state tounament. Starting the state tournament, I walked out to the pitchers mound, ready to start the game and, our coach walked out to talk to me. He told me that the people up in that tower had a list of everyone on the field and, knew weather or not they belonged the the Morman Church. Since I didn't, I would have to promise right now that I would join the Church or, I would not be allowed to play. Jack I threw down the ball, went and found my parents and, told them, I wanted to go home. In this day and age, they may not teach that Jesus and the Devil were brothers but, they did in the time that I am telling you about. I wonder if they are still throwing kids off the ball team if they don't promise the join the Church. I doubt it. I wonder if they would live up to the fact that to play ball you had to be a member of the Morman Church,any more than they are living up to what their teachings were about Jesus and, the Devil.

    December 12, 2007 at 7:32 pm |
  181. Lou

    In the 1960s I decided that I would become a Morman. Two "Brothers" came by to visit me and that is when all that they said seemed right to me.
    Growing up as a Roman Catholic, some of the doctorine seemed very strange to me. It was hard for me to comprehend the Joseph Smith Story and the Tablets that were found. But, after a lot of dialogue, it became credible to me. I was particurely intrigued with the Angel Moroni.
    At that time, I lived in California. I joined the Pasadena Stake as it was called. I really had to get over the fact that I would have to wear "funny Underwear". That was part of the code at that time. Do not know if it holds true now.
    After each service there was something similar to catechism lessons which I participated in as a child. As the Morman Doctorine was unfolded, I became more and more disturbed. The belief at that time was that we had several plateaus of existence.That seemed logical to me at that time. When we got into the area of the pre existence and that God in that time of our existence cast those that had differences with him on to the earth with dark skin.....I just got up and left. Even though I was younger, I could not swallow that. I am caucasion and would never believe that in one million years. Additionally, at that time, I was told that no Black persons could ever hold the priesthood. I am not sure if this has changed.
    On the plus side, the Mormans that I encountered were the most "saintly" people that I ever met on this planet. I am 72 years old and believe me, they had something right going on. I hold that relationship with my brief time with those of the Morman faith in the highest regard. I am a registered Democrat and this is a non partisan comment to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

    December 12, 2007 at 7:40 pm |
  182. James E. Tague

    Huckabee was ill advised to make such a comment after repeatedly claiming he knew very little about Mormanism. Romney has all the qualifications to make a great president. He is very intelligent and at his very core there is a man of faith. He is someone who we need desparately at this time in our history.

    The Democrats remain a pandering group of populist, who naturally appeal to those with lower incomes and less education, by promising them what they want to hear. Unfortunately it has never been a party comfortable with the facts or the truth. Their base is predominately people who love the comfort of opinion, but avoid the discomfort of thought.

    December 12, 2007 at 7:43 pm |
  183. Joseph Giles, Jr.

    I commented at length earlier, but since then have read of a Complete Encylopedia of Mormonism put out by the LDS church which states that Jesus and Satan are not brothers. However, this goes against both LDS doctrine and LDS prophets teachings. So I know the fault is not with Huckabee! Maybe Romney honestly doesn't know. The church is giving answers that contradict beliefs. This is just proof that LDS (Mormons) are confused to their own beliefs. What kind of religion is this? Certainly not legitimized Christianity!

    December 12, 2007 at 7:44 pm |
  184. Virginia Denton

    These politicians are scaring the crap out of me Jack! with all this preacher talk omg! And I consider myself a Christian.
    I truly believe that these are the kind of "moneychangers in the temple" that Jesus kicked ass on. Using God for their own personal gain while warring, lying torturing, killing, lining their pockets. Jesus warned us about people like this and because of them I consider myself a "closet Christian" now.

    and Jack, I am reading your FABULOUS book and will consider myself your "dittohead!!!!" even all your cussing! I LOVE IT! Keep it up!. Go after em!

    December 12, 2007 at 7:45 pm |
  185. Michael Fink

    “Don’t Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?” ?????????????
    School-shootings,Mall-shootings,Church-shootings. 2,3 mil. people in US-Prisons. 5 mil. on probation or parole. 47 mil. people without health care. A illegal war, based on lies. Millions of missing e-mails in the White-house!! Torture. And so on.

    And than this:“Don’t Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?”

    I hope you have no other problems this country!!!!!!!
    It is sometimes a very good feeling to be a European!!!!!!!

    December 12, 2007 at 7:47 pm |
  186. citizenpundit

    How on earth is this an attack!?! Just ask any Mormon and this IS EXACTLY what they are taught and believe. To them it's not a bad thing. It's just the facts of the matter. Their whole "Plan of Salvation" hinges on a literal "Father God" who had both Jesus and Satan as literal sons. They both presented "Heavenly Father" with their own plan for the salvation of man. Heavenly Father could have chosen Satan's plan, but perferred Jesus' plan because it didn't take away man's free agency. Huckabee didn't do anything wrong at all.

    December 12, 2007 at 8:08 pm |
  187. Virginia Denton

    I have been friends with Mormons and also been to their church. I admire some things about their religion but absolutely consider them a cult.
    They are required to stock massive amts of food for the end times, every family. And that is because when the end times come, they are the chosen people of God and will be all thats left- the definition of cult. The believe that everyone is going to hell but them, and actually stalked me after I made the mistake of attending their church. I had to get real nasty with them, sorry.
    And the only thing wrong with Baptists is they don't hold them under water long enough.

    December 12, 2007 at 8:12 pm |
  188. Tom

    I'm surprised because it sounds like Huckabee (a professional politician, like the rest of them) is actually being truthful here. He is not stating it, but asking a question, "Don't Mormons believe...?" He's asking a question which is admitting he doesn't know something. When have you ever known a politician to readily admit they don't know something? They (politicians) are accomplished at obfuscation; like Hillary; she is a master at that political art. So when they tell the truth we are flabbergasted and have problems coming to terms with it and jump all over their comments that probably were not meant to be harmful...

    December 12, 2007 at 8:27 pm |
  189. Kent Ebner

    Evidently Mormon missionaries on bicycles have not visited the Reverent Huckabee and educated him on The Book of Mormon. It's hard to believe that he was missed – even in Arkansas.

    December 12, 2007 at 8:33 pm |
  190. Patrick Reihing

    This is a guy who believes that the earth was created only 6000 years ago and evolution is a false premise. Add this comment to the list.

    December 12, 2007 at 8:36 pm |
  191. Bill Michael

    Mormans are nuts and their religion is phony. Huckabee shouldn't apologize for speaking the truth.

    December 12, 2007 at 8:43 pm |
  192. salscimemi

    I wish the whole bunch of candidates demos,gop ,indipendents stop talking about whose religion is better than the other,s.All religions are a bunch of made up stories about a god nobody has ever seen or heard from.The whole thing is a human imagination to scare the people who cannot function on their own without some magic help from a made up god.

    December 12, 2007 at 9:02 pm |
  193. Jeff

    Typical Republican propaganda. Who cares? Lets talk about how many poverty and middle class kids that joined our military forces to better themselves and our country, that will never be back home or lets talk about healthcare, by the way thanks Jr. for the veto on giving our children healthcare thanks for caring and Merry Christmas to you too.

    December 12, 2007 at 9:04 pm |
  194. Julia Bormes

    Jack, I think this whole thing has been carried too far. Huckabee admitted he didn't know much about the Mormon faith and this reporter kept digging at him until he said something he could take out of context and stir up some controversy. Good grief, let it go...I think "others" are getting a little nervous at Huckabee's rise in the polls and are trying anything and everything to discredit him. Stand your ground and keep rolling Mike! We are behind you!!!

    December 12, 2007 at 9:46 pm |
  195. Emily, Emerald Isle, NC

    I hope people realize, when they think Mike Huckabee makes for an interesting candidate, that he supports teaching creationism in schools. That doesn't seem to come out in the press about him.

    December 12, 2007 at 10:25 pm |
  196. Kyle

    Romney doesn't need to clear misunderstanding about his religious beliefs. The Mormon Church has more than enough information for anyone that wants to know about LDS doctrine on their own time from non-anti sources. Mormon doctrine is shared freely and yet people still think it's kept on the down low. Romney is not hiding his faith; he is doing exactly as he should to focus on his political endeavors and not his religious. Religious questions can be answered but he is not running to represent or answer about the Mormon faith, he is running for Presidential Office. If you don't understand the Mormon beliefs then get out there and find out for yourselves instead of just assuming.


    December 12, 2007 at 10:40 pm |
  197. Patrick

    this guy did a real advertisement with Chuck Norris. Do I need to say anything else? Chances are, he's a big enough dipwad to earn the party's ticket.

    December 12, 2007 at 11:00 pm |
  198. Paul Kraft

    Mike Huckabee is probably just confused between that fact about the Mormon faith and the fact than Ann Coulter is Satan's daughter.

    December 12, 2007 at 11:18 pm |
  199. Jerry Brumer

    I think of religion in the same way as masturbation; it's quite all right if you do it, but please don't talk to me about it. It sickens me to think that people who believe religion is a substitute for inteligence and education have come to be such a driving force in the direction of our country.

    December 12, 2007 at 11:46 pm |
  200. Mike Berry

    The bottom line is that Governor Romney is a proven candidate in both the business and governmental arena's. He ran a memorable 2002 Winter Olympics, showing he can organize, reach out to the world, bring people together for a common goal, and even inspire.

    Our founding fathers' vision of the President of the United States of America was someone whose life displayed virtue, intelligence, experience, and wisdom. Romney has these characteristics whether a Catholic, Christian, or Jew.

    December 12, 2007 at 11:56 pm |
  201. Hunter

    Jack, I am Mormon. And I'm not voting for Romney in the primaries, because I don't like his vision on a number of different issues. But the reason for Huckabee's surge in the poles is because of people like Mike making someone’s beliefs which are misunderstood by a large majority of people in the first place the main issue. And for people staying that Romney "should answer question on our religion." and that "Mormons are a closed in people to others outside our religion."
    That is not true; we are the fastest growing religion in the world, with approximately Fifty thousand full time missionary’s world wide. So if you are someone who really wants to know what members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints believe, there are missionaries in your area you can tell you. Or you can continue to believe what others say, like Mike, who are not members of our church. Only telling partial truths, with little or no knowledge on the subject. And those are the facts, Jack.
    P.S. CNN needs to do a better job on their “Mormon fact checks.”

    December 13, 2007 at 3:28 am |
  202. Elijah Watkins


    Romney believes that Christ is the son of God and that he died for the sins of all mankind. Outside of that, how can small doctrinal differences possibly effect his foreign oil policy or healthcare reform plans. It seems that society sees Mormonism as the last bastion of religious intolerance. Can you imagine a politician questioning a Jewish constituent about how weird it is that he doesn't like bacon? Or pointing out how odd it is that a Muslim politician fasts for seven days out of the year? Absurd. Yet it seems to be perfectly acceptable to question a serious Latter-day Saint presidential contender on points of doctrine.

    As a black Latter-day Saint I am stuck between a rock an a hard place. The Democrats don't like me because of my morals and apparently the Republicans don't like me because of my religion. What's a guy to do Jack? If you really want to know about Mormon's you can check out mormon.org or talk to the two young men or women in your town who are serving missions right now on their own dime. Besides that, judge Romney on the issues, not on his religion.

    December 13, 2007 at 5:29 am |
  203. THEFMAN

    Hey Jack, why don't you put up some questions about issues most people really care about. The majority of peole could give a rat's behind about Hucka bee and Romney's religious jabs. What does that have to do with being President and national policy? Only the far left, CNN, MSNBC and CBS really give a hoot about Hillary. She's imploding right in front of your eyes and you don't see it. If she were to get elected heaven help us. All of our taxes will go through the roof. Look what we got in Illinois by electing a democrat governor. More corruption than ever, raise in almost every fee he can find. We'll get the same from Hillary. And about corporations having influence on enrgy policy? So what. Doesn't every group have influence on any given policy. Like this is news? If corporations don't get to voice an opinion on policy then they aren't looking for the best interest of shareholders and thier employees. If we didn't have breaks of some kind to allow corporations to make some money a lot of people wouldn't have jobs, Jack. The millionaires and billionaire corporations are the ones who allow hard working people like me and you to make a good living and have the things you need for you and your family.

    December 13, 2007 at 8:09 am |
  204. Joy Paquin

    Just goes to show you Huckabee can be as slimey as the rest of the politicians! What an underhanded comment to make. Personally I wonder about his $121,000 gifts he received and then had the audacity to register at one of the local stores when he moved from the governors mansion. Looks to me like he'd be working hand in hand with the lobbyists. Maybe his campaign slogan should be"Gimme, Gimme, Gimme"! Disgusting!!!!

    December 13, 2007 at 8:54 am |
  205. harvey

    Being an Arkansan Retired Military had to live under huckster rule. If you like the curren administrations policies. Then stay with the huck he,s a clone

    December 13, 2007 at 8:57 am |
  206. Dan Ondich

    When I was growing up, my parents reminded me that money was the root of all evil. Probably because we didn't have any. Now that I'm grown, although sometimes that's up for debate, I think they were wrong. Religion, Jack, is the root of all evil. With all the crap going on in the world today, I dare anyone to dispute it!

    December 13, 2007 at 9:18 am |
  207. allen morris

    Regarding all of the phony hell , fire, and brimstone being bantered about, I would like to see a candidate show up that says, "I am a devout atheist and it has becaome very obvious to me that science and quantifiable data will always trump myth, superstition and wishful thinking,self-fulfilling fantasy, and I will lead our country out of the muck and mire, based on this premise."

    December 13, 2007 at 9:35 am |
  208. Joe Tyrrell

    Ibelieve that Romney said that the Morman Church disavows this brother thing. My question is did they ever hold that position?

    December 13, 2007 at 10:23 am |
  209. Stu58

    McKay from SLC, UT – right on – someone who understands the importance of the issue! “How can we trust a president to lead us when he himself is a blind follower?”

    A nugget for you feminists, the Mormons also believe that a woman’s only hope of eternal life is for her husband to call her forth from the grave at the resurrection. He is not obliged to do so if he was unhappy with her services in life. He will be resurrected as a matter of fact, but her fate will depend on his will.

    A cult? Unquestionably. I don’t state this to be mean-spirited, because most Mormons are quite friendly people, and I don’t doubt Romney is as well. But by definition a cult is any belief system that varies substantially on major structural points from its parent belief system. If Mormonism didn’t claim to be Christian it would simply qualify as another religion, but claiming to be Christian it can be nothing but a cult with its wildly divergent doctrines. What many Americans are not aware of is that the hundreds of different Protestant denominations, and even Catholicism, hold over 90% (an actual statistic, not just a random guess) of their doctrine in common, and agree precisely on the most fundamental doctrines of Christianity. Mormonism differs substantially on several key historical Christian doctrines, making it by definition a cult, beyond question.

    Don Kite, The reason you can’t find anything in the “Holy Bible” about Jesus and the devil being brothers is because the Mormons have not one but three holy books besides the Bible that carry equal weight. The only one most people ever hear about is the Book of Mormon, which they claim was found and translated by Joseph Smith, being interpretable only with special glasses which Smith was given by an angel, and then conveniently retrieved so no one else could interpret it differently. The Mormons’ other two books of scriptures are the “Doctrines and Covenants” and “The Pearl of Great Price”. All are equally authoritative with the Bible, but the “Doctrines and Covenants” constitutes the nuts and bolts of what Mormons really believe and practice. I believe it’s in the “Book of Mormon” that the relationship between Jesus and the devil is revealed as Huckabee has stated. I could be mistaken, its been many years since I studied Mormonism, but they do in fact believe this to be true.

    All of the books are contradictory with each other and the Bible, and most Mormons admit that they are. This is because they believe that their current leader at any given time is a living prophet and has the authority from God to change doctrine. That is why some Mormon writings promote polygamy and others disparage the practice. An excellent, concise, resource on the facts surrounding Mormonism is “The Godmakers”, for anyone who cares to be informed about what the hopeful President believes.

    If you are tempted to think that it doesn’t matter if an American President believes his family life is eternal and his wife’s eternal destiny rests on his decision at the resurrection, be my guest to ignore Romney’s religious beliefs, but I’ll guarantee that his religious beliefs cannot help but influence his actions in office, and that is why talking about religion is important in politics, because no man or woman can be separated from his/her religion (a fact true of atheists as well). This is an impossibility unless the religion is a pure facade.

    December 13, 2007 at 12:25 pm |
  210. Russ Cruzan

    Huckabee did not make a comment. He asked a question. Why doesn't the Mormon candidate or someone in the Mormon church answer the question?

    December 13, 2007 at 1:01 pm |
  211. Tom Zuidema

    As a fellow Christian, I am extremely disappointed to learn that a Christian minister is so terribly ignorant about the essential nature of one of the major faiths in America, the country he would profess high qualifications to lead. His unwillingness to seek accurate information on a topic which he should master suggests a shallowness in education and a disinterest in seeking the truth before one speaks...scarey stuff for a Presidential Candidate, I'd say. He may be a really nice guy, but he won't have my vote.

    December 13, 2007 at 1:15 pm |
  212. rob

    Stu 58,

    Show Proof for your "an ACTUAL STATISTIC"?

    December 13, 2007 at 7:19 pm |
  213. dave

    every president that this country has had brings his faith into the white house. president bush said that he prayed alot. president regan quoted a verse from the bible and so on. so what makes anybody think that if romney is elected that he won't bring his faith into the white house and since the mormons rely on prophets,seeres and revelators for there directions in life what makes anybody think romney won't do the same. if his prophet has a vision then mitt will carry it out what ever it is. another point of fact for all you that don't care about his faith the mormon church since the 1830's has said that the blacks were an accursed race and could not become mormons. they recieved so much presure form people about that that since the mid 80's they can become mormons but can only go to there celestial kingdom as servants. i don't know about anybody else but as for me i don't want a racist as my president.

    December 14, 2007 at 8:15 am |
  214. Stu58

    Is it clear to everyone that there is a lot of confusion even among professing Mormons and ex-Mormons about what Mormons believe? The reason it is confusing is because the cult is dishonest, secretive, and ever-shifting on its doctrines. It is a chameleon. Clifton noted at 4:33 on the 12th that, “Having been a Mormon Bishop for a number of years, I was taught that Jesus and Satan were brothers in the pre-earth life. Difficult doctrine to explain in a few words, but it does explain Huckabee’s question.”

    Cindy and Don both had good and accurate posts at 4:34 pm 12th Dec, and 4:35 pm 12th Dec., respectively. Joseph Giles Jr. post at 7:44 p.m. on the 12th noted that he “read of a Complete Encylopedia of Mormonism put out by the LDS church which states that Jesus and Satan are not brothers. However, this goes against both LDS doctrine and LDS prophets teachings. So I know the fault is not with Huckabee! Maybe Romney honestly doesn’t know. The church is giving answers that contradict beliefs. This is just proof that LDS (Mormons) are confused to their own beliefs.”

    This is exactly the point. Mormonism is a lying, ever shifting, deceiving, cult whose own members often do not know what their religion believes and practices. Everyday Mormons are typically not taught the deepest secrets and doctrines of the “church”, and frequently are more ignorant of the “church’s” fundamental beliefs than a well-informed and read outsider. More than once I have had Mormon “missionaries” slink away in defeat from my doorway when they realized they didn’t know as much about their beliefs as I.

    Pardon me all of you highly practical folk who seem to not comprehend that it is impossible to extricate a deeply religious individual’s belief system from the more rudimentary core of his mental faculties. The belief that this is possible and desirable rises from a conception of religion as predominantly a Saturday or Sunday social event. But to people like Huckabee, Romney, and most of the politicians you want to shut up about religion, their belief system is so intertwined with “practical everyday living” that to speak about the issues is exactly what they are doing. This is unavoidable and important, whether you comprehend it or not!

    December 14, 2007 at 9:43 am |
  215. Darnell

    I dont think that taxing the rich is the best plan right now for several reasons. I think that the resolution will take a clear and flexible approach to correcting this countries problem. There are several americans who are not in favorable financial standings and there are more of poor versus rich today. We really should look at some of the tactics being used now to devalue the american dollar. Our way of life is in jeopardy and we must keep a cool head and accept only the best ideas regardless of politics to bringing back economic strength to this country.

    Happy Holidays

    December 14, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  216. Ned Chojnacki

    I think Huckabee would be the perfect choice. He's an honest Republican, who actively verbalizes the core values of the Republican Party.


    A Democrat.

    December 14, 2007 at 5:16 pm |
  217. GT

    Perfect comment by Huckabee. Under the actual definition of "cult", all Christians are members of a cult ALSO! AND, for the record, I believe one's religious affiliation shouldn't affect a person's vote for politicians vying for office. BUT, Mormon are not Christians...at least in the conventional sense. One only has to search the internet and do minimal research to understand THAT! Huckabee's comment goes right to the heart of what Mormons believe and Christians do not! He therefore accomplishes volumes with a simple and quick statement...only one problem – in a politically incorrect way!

    December 14, 2007 at 6:10 pm |
  218. rob

    Before Mike Huckabee made headlines with his statement regarding Mitt Romney's religious beliefs, it was clearly in the news questioning whether Mitt Romney could seperate his religion from the office of President , should he be elected.

    I believe that by asking the question Mike Huckabee did and how he's expressed himself since that time, it is clear that he, has the problem of seperating himself in regards to church and state.

    December 14, 2007 at 7:32 pm |
  219. Justin

    I feel deeply honored that Mitt Romney wants to spend his invaluable time and energy trying to make America a better place. He's a proven leader that can work with people on both sides of the isle.

    The major issue people have with him is that he's Mormon, which if for you means that he's unfit to be President, then you must also believe that Mormons can't be respected military leaders (Robert C. Oaks), run a hotel chain (J. Willard Marriott), sing (Gladys Knight), be heart surgeons (Russell M. Nelson), or invent things (Philo T. Farnsworth – invented TV). This shows more about your intolerance than anything – not a particularly Christian attribute to have. But hey, we all have things to work on. Mormons have more in common with you than you think – we all want a better America and a brighter future for our children. And finally we have a candidate that can unite people from all walks of life.

    Oh, and people seem to think he flip flops, especially on abortion. Well, maybe flip, but not flops. Flip flop means you change your position one day and claim you were consistent. Romney isn't doing that. He's acknowledged there was a difference – except when it came down to policy which has always been consistent. And all of us pro-lifers are glad that he did flip. Frankly I wish more people would too. Not so say there isn't a time and a place when abortion may be the best thing. But does it really have to happen so much? Being a father has certainly opened my eyes to the miracle of children.


    Thank you Mitt!

    (secretly hoping Ron Paul will be his running mate)

    December 14, 2007 at 11:03 pm |
  220. Ron H.

    I see right through "Gomer" Huckabee. A phoney, religious control freak.

    December 15, 2007 at 1:53 pm |
  221. Charlie Pecora

    All this BS about what has to be done to correct the course this country is on, is just plain ole "pissin" in the wind. Until we get the money out of politics and establish term limits, so other forms of influence can be halted, there will be NO change in the direction and slide we are in. All problems, abortion, immigration, trade, war, healthcare, etc, cannot be intelligently assessed as long as there is all this money involved.
    So, You and all the rest, can holler all you want, until some one takes the lead in calling for campaign finance and term limits. Until then,this era in our history will be noted as the beginning of the end for this country and its position in the world.
    We have replaced the 1st commandment's God, –with Money!


    December 16, 2007 at 1:38 pm |
  222. Darrel/from Iowa

    The Mormon Man and all his money is trailing Huckabee? Well why is that? Could it be that Huckabee is a better Canidate and that John Q. Public is starting to figure that out in Spades.
    Go Huckabee!!
    Independant from Iowa

    December 17, 2007 at 12:38 am |
  223. Steve


    Watch... That fire that's burning in the building near the white house today - Every document being sought in attempts to investigate questionable activity by the Bush administration will have been lost in that fire. Sorry about that chief...

    December 19, 2007 at 12:27 pm |