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December 10th, 2007
02:59 PM ET

Whom do you trust on Iran’s nukes?

FROM Jack Cafferty:

Israel isn't buying into the new U.S. intelligence report on Iran.

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert says the conclusion that Iran has given up its nuclear weapons program will not change Israel's view that Iran is still trying to develop

Olmert apparently told a closed meeting of his Security Cabinet that Israel has no reason to change what it's believed all along... that Iran continues to pursue nuclear weapons, is developing weapons and rockets, and enriching uranium.

For years, Israel has been calling on the international community to act to stop Iran's nuclear program. This has led some to believe that Israel might attack Iran's nuclear facilities. Keep in mind, although Iran insists its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

Olmert says Israel would work with the International Atomic Energy Agency to expose Iran's plan to develop nuclear weapons.

Meanwhile, the chairman of the U.S. joint chiefs of staff Michael Mullen, is in Israel for talks with leaders there. No surprise that Iran is among the subjects expected to be discussed.

Here’s the question: When it comes to Iran's nuclear program, whom do you believe: Israel or the U.S.?

Here’s my question to you: When it comes to Iran's nuclear program, whom do you believe: Israel or the U.S.?

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  1. Shane

    The way this adminsitration have conducted themselves over the last 7 years is appaling and deeply disturbing. They act like the Sopranos. They are above the law and do whatever they please without any accountability. Somebody needs to investigate these poeple b4 they leave office but I don't expect much to come of it

    December 10, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  2. Bill Wallen

    Absolutely, along with one to persue all the things this adminstration has done to ruin our nation, and don't take as an answer, "I can't remember"

    Impeachment is the answer

    December 10, 2007 at 2:23 pm |
  3. Bill Wallen

    Neither!

    December 10, 2007 at 2:26 pm |
  4. tom

    JACK,
    BOTH GOV'TS ARE CONTROLLED BY THEIR RESPECTIVE RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS. INSTEAD OF "HONEST BROKER" THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS BECOME AN ENABLER FOR THE APARTHEID-WING IN ISRAEL.
    ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND, JEWS & ARABS ARE FIGHTING OVER A "RUG", THE USA NEEDS TO PROVIDE A PAIR OF SHARP SCISSORS!

    December 10, 2007 at 2:34 pm |
  5. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Neither. They were working on enriching uranium far beyond what it takes to manufacture electricity so that means the desire and the intent is there under this leadership. As long as this leadership is in power there will always be that possibility. Knowledge is a very powerful thing. Bad knowledge is even worse and can get innocent people killed a lot quicker..

    December 10, 2007 at 2:40 pm |
  6. .David Allen Linkenheimer

    Jack,
    Since you asked for comments from cyber space I am going to tell you what I think about your question as to who do I trust.

    To Quote Mr. Bill Wallen (see above) ...."NEITHER"...

    I was not born yesterday and it has been my experience that our government is a FRAUD and are by definition "ORGANIZED CRIMINALS"

    The state of Isreal is in fact stolen property and its government has brought new meaning to the term "State Sponsored Terrorism".

    The truth is not in these people so you need not pay too much attention to what they say.... By their actions it is plane to see that they are a bunch of blood thirsty killers..

    December 10, 2007 at 3:32 pm |
  7. Alex

    This is a no-brainer. Hands down, Israel has THE best intelligence service and anti-terrorism teams in the world. If it didn't, there would be no Israel right now.

    December 10, 2007 at 3:45 pm |
  8. John Estrada

    I trust neither of the two governments. The Bush administration has done everything to betray my trust and the trust of the world. The Israeli government is no better than the Bush administration. They both use war, rhetoric, lies and intimidation to prove that they are right and everyone else is wrong.

    The only hope we have at some level of truth is a new American administration that can hopefully restore the damage brought about by the Bush administration. The religious blindness on both the Israeli and Arab sides that is behind the build up of arms both nuclear and traditional will not end without a strong American role in the negotiation.

    It is not like either side will ever act as both of their religions ask and be peaceful good people. That is sadly just too much to ask for either side of this conflict. It is apparently more important to be right and be "gods one true chosen people" or "gods one true religion" than to be peaceful good people and that is truly sad.

    December 10, 2007 at 3:52 pm |
  9. Patrick J Cronin

    The reason the intelegence on the Iran nuclear program was leaked to the press is that the intelegence community does not trust the administration, Cheney or Bush. What a disgrace. With the dis and mis information from the White House you don't know who to believe. Israel is a reflection of the White House.

    Patrick, Georgetown, IN

    December 10, 2007 at 4:02 pm |
  10. Francesco Farre

    "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone"

    Why do people continue to cast a blind eye over Israel's nuclear arsenal, which is currently reported at over 60 devices. Here is a group of people who essentially stole over half of the country of Palestine from the Palestinians. Then in 1967 they occupied the rest. The U.N. has passed countless resolutions condemning Israel for its 40 year occupation of the West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights. They all but destroyed the USS Liberty in a completely unprovoked attack which the US did not even give them a slap in the wrist for, and has been kept quiet until this decade.

    What I am trying to say is, 'here is the pot calling the kettle black'. God forbid anyone voice anything negative about Israel, lest the title of anti-semitic be applied. I have many friends who are of the Jewish faith. What I find distasteful is the level to which our government and mainstream media will go to avoid finding fault with anything Israel says or does.

    Finally it has already been documented that President Ahmadinejad was mis-quoted. He did not say that Israel should be "wiped off the map". He said their government like all corrupt governments will be wiped from the earth.

    Is it any wonder that any mostly Muslim country in the Middle-east are a little paranoid regarding Israel and the U.S.

    December 10, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  11. Salil Abbas Sadak

    While we're sitting here arguing about Nuclear programs in Iran, we fail to notice that both U.S. and Israel have access to nuclear weapons and will not fail to use them when deemed necessary. Isn't it a little too convenient that the world's most oil and resource rich nations are targeted as WMD or Nuclear weapon producing nations, remember Iraq?

    December 10, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  12. Roxie

    Iran's nuclear program is not easy intelligence water to navigate. Israel's concern is well understood given the fact the Iran opposes any nation making peace with Israel and Iranian President Ahmadinejad's anti-Israel statements; but, Israel makes their own anti-Iran statements. To trust Israeli intelligence over US intelligence one would need to know Israeli intelligence is not tainted by prejudice and that US intelligence is not tainted by an agency smarting from the Iraq intelligence disaster. Since such a determination is not possible, then one must ask: "Given the fact there are unknown factors relating to Iran's nuclear program," should any nation take military action, or even increase sanctions against Iran?'

    The United Nations was able to stop the North Korean nuclear program AFTER North Korea tested a nuclear weapon. Iran has not even tested a nuclear weapon. Therefore wise minds might conclude there is time to continue to work good intelligence sources inside Iran, improve signal intelligence related to Iran and thereby advance the ability to obtain accurate information concerning Iran's nuclear program.

    Let us not forget that if Iran attempts to use a nuclear weapon, either on their own or through the terrorist group Hezbollah which they helped create, that Iran would cease to exist. While some Islamic zealots in Iran are of the homicidal-suicidal mindset there are other rational minds which would not wish to vaporized.

    Since there is still time - Iran does not have a nuclear weapon yet - and if they do, they have not used one or tested one yet, then why start beating war drums?

    December 10, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  13. Bradley J. Riley

    There isn't a side to believe in this situation. Both have vested interest in the middle east and clearly will stop at nothing until they reach a mission accomplished scenario.

    Though I am more apt to believe the United States government on this one because it makes more sense that the Bush administration would make this big of a "goof up" and for Israel to create this large of a blatant lie even without the backing of the United States to gain more control in the region.

    The Israeli government is crooked and the United States government is internationally retarded.

    December 10, 2007 at 4:29 pm |
  14. Dana

    Hmmmm... let me see..eennie, mmeenie, mynnie.....

    December 10, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  15. jimmy gannon

    i don't think we should believe either cause bush is one of the biggest liars to ever hold a office in the white house and isreal has been in a war for how long and they think they have room to criticize anybody it ridiculous but he has more crediability than bush ever will

    December 10, 2007 at 4:38 pm |
  16. john

    Why should we even care what Israel has to say. What was their pre-911 intelligence, where was it? They have repeatedly lied, can’t be trusted and are a greater threat to our national security than is Iran.

    December 10, 2007 at 4:52 pm |
  17. David A. Morse

    Jack:

    Judging by the past performance of our CIA and its Iraq report before the war, I trust Israel's judgement. Unlike the U.S. they live next door to Iran. The threat is far graver for them. If Iran had a nuclear weapon, Israel would be the first to go.

    December 10, 2007 at 4:58 pm |
  18. Jeff

    It's been proven time & again we cannot trust anything this administration tells us. I don't trust Israel either. I still don't understand why we support Israel to the tune of $80 million a day when we have disabled vets treated like garbage and a massive health care crisis here at home. Send Hans Blix to Iran and let him do his job this time.

    December 10, 2007 at 5:07 pm |
  19. David

    Jack,

    Now that's a tough call... either believe a moron who denies the Holocaust... or believe " W", who clearly has neither the ability to understand an NIE report, nor the intestinal fortitude to admit that once again, he may have jumped the gun and escalated a situation before attempting to understand it? Perhaps those two need a fifth grader to explain it to them... maybe a product of "No child left behind"!

    December 10, 2007 at 5:09 pm |
  20. Jerry

    What in God's Green earth would make us believe this NIE any more than the one used to get us into IRAQ. I seriously doubt that we have the capability to truly know what is going on in IRAN. We should concentate on developing mechanisms to make the Nuclear scenario less plausable for other countries by having systems to detect and defend against scenarios.

    December 10, 2007 at 5:15 pm |
  21. Jonathan

    Depends on which side still thinks we're fighting "terror".

    December 10, 2007 at 5:17 pm |
  22. V. Katta

    The United States cannot stop Iran if it wishes to arm itself with Nuclear Weapons. I personally do not believe Iran wishes to continue its development of Nuclear Weapons. Iran is in a state of crisis, with the people having little confidence in the government, shortages of fuel, and an overall bad economy. Iran has enough on its plate to deal with before taking on Israel and the United States of America.

    President Bush is over reacting as well as Israel. Even though I believe that Isreal should be ready in the possible event of an Iranian Nuclear State, they have no reason to keep high suspisions of Iran. It reminds me how we THOUGH Iraq possesed Weapons of Mass Destruction and didn't find out that it was a lie untill after we used military action. We have a chance now to stop a military conflict with verifiable intelligence and I believe Israel and Bush should try and accept the fact that they had no proof for these years they have been accusing Iran.

    December 10, 2007 at 5:22 pm |
  23. Rich, McKinney Texas

    When it comes to my safety and security and future I trust no Government. As far as Military Intelligence goes that is an oxymoron. Accurate Intelligence degrades from the moment it is discovered. There is no such thing as reliable intelligence, never has been, here or abroad. Perhaps we all would be better off if when we are told something by our Governments that we demand unequivocal proof first, before we allow them to react and then question even that. We have 535 congress members and we trusted them to make the right choice for all of us. They excercised poor judgement. We know from Iraq that they are not qualified and have failed. Lets not let that happen again.

    December 10, 2007 at 5:24 pm |
  24. nick

    After WMD's I just don't believe anything coming from this administration.

    December 10, 2007 at 5:33 pm |
  25. larry

    I don't blame isreal look at how they lied to the american people,no one can trust this bunch of nut's,especialyGeorge bush!

    December 10, 2007 at 5:41 pm |
  26. James S. Lenon

    The veracity of the Bush Administration has rendered any official U,S. government pronouncement questionable at best,

    I hope that the leaked NIE regarding Iran's bomb program is correct. I don't know that they haven't resumed production and suspect that they have.

    While Bush is worried only about legacy, Israel is concerned with the continued existance of Israel and the safety of its populace, largely unwelcome anywhere else on the planet. I trust Israel's intelligence as they have no fallback position and must be correct in their findings.

    Anyone who believes that Iran would fail to deploy a nuclear device against Israel must also believe in the tooth fairy and the fable of Moslem brotherhood that has done so much to restore peace to Iraq and to resettle the would-be-Palestinians who have been robbed of their country by their own leaders and their brother Arabs.

    December 10, 2007 at 5:41 pm |
  27. kevin

    Whats the use Jack
    This president hasn't listened to a single sane non-arrogant person yet. And thats because he doesn't have enough integrity to recognise it..

    December 10, 2007 at 5:50 pm |
  28. Merle in Alabama

    i trust Isreal.....look at the Iraq War...enough said!

    December 10, 2007 at 5:57 pm |
  29. Don p.

    The words were uttered "World War Three" it only states where his and cheney's minds are headed. the bible told him so in one of those morning prayer session's! i'm waiting to hear how he spoke to "GOD" on his weekend radio address!

    December 10, 2007 at 5:59 pm |
  30. Venu Katta

    Israel has the right to continue its suspision of Iran. The leader of Iran has claimed he wants to blow Israel off of the map! If Iran has the motivation, they could easily develop WMDs and pose a threat to Israel's national security. Israel cannot let down its guard or it could face the worst.

    If it were America, we would probably do the same thing. If Canada was developing WMDs, and we had strained relations, that would be a reason to stop them! Israel has the right and the duty to protect its citizens from any threat they face!

    December 10, 2007 at 5:59 pm |
  31. burnham scott

    One would have to be really gullible to trust anyone with anything these days, least of all the present administration. The best one can say is that the President of Iran has not told us any lies.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:04 pm |
  32. Gerald

    The Ironic part is that I have been privately telling my freinds, family, and associates that Iran is not a Major threat they have just submitted their plans with the IAEA a month ago for development of Nuclear weapons. If you know your politics and intelligence the real threat is Pakistan. Al Queada has declared jihad on Musharreff and Bhutto which was verified by Bin Laden's video address on Sept. 20. Two weeks ago their were two bombings in Rawalpindi northern Pakistan. Al Queada has been building an Army in Waziristan for several years now. They are poised to invade Pakistan and potentially take control of a Nuclear device. With the bombings in Rawalpindi it is clear Al Queada is making its offensive on Pakistan in its weakened state. This is where we need to be concerned, because Pakistan has many more Nuclear weapons then Iran. Read people read!

    Gerald

    December 10, 2007 at 6:06 pm |
  33. Gerald

    Iran wants to be like the rest of the countries on the UN security council.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:10 pm |
  34. Daniel Montoya

    I'll believe Israel when Israel tells the world about its atomic weapons programs. Who is the hypocrite here?

    December 10, 2007 at 6:13 pm |
  35. Robert Watts

    BELEIVE ANYTHING COMING OUT OF BUSH'S OR HIS LACKIES MOUTH!!! YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING. The United States under the Bush Mis-administration has a history of lying to America. Hell, I would beleive anyone from any country before I would them.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:14 pm |
  36. Ricky

    I believe Isreal in this situation. Then again if I were Isreal, I would be worried too. After all, the president himself said that he wanted to wipe the place off the face of the Earth. That even makes me nervous. I would like to make sure that their Nuclear program is on the up and up, not only for Isreal, but for America as well.

    Rick
    Clemson, SC

    December 10, 2007 at 6:14 pm |
  37. Jerry in Pittsburgh

    I have to say I trust neither. Both parties have an agenda. Israel needs to look menacing to Iran and George Bush needs to look menacing to democrats. I'm saddened to say I've learned to look at all world politics with so much salt my blood pressure is soaring.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:14 pm |
  38. Tom Bulger

    By selection CIA agents are skeptical and paranoid, so I trust their assessment. Israel is not able to be objective.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:14 pm |
  39. Shahid I

    US has lost its credibility when it comes to intelligence reports.
    Isreal just needs a reason to attack following US's example after Iraq mess.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:15 pm |
  40. Benjamin

    at this point, it's hard to trust either side. the U.S. was wrong about the extent of danger posed by iraq, while israel would surely like to police the entire mideast regarldless of the circumstances. we need to concentrate more on how were going to disarm a nuclear iran peacefully than which sanctions to slap them with.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:15 pm |
  41. Nick

    Once again the concerns of Israel are outweighing the concerns of the US, chiefly due to the very powerful pro-Israeli lobby in the US.

    Why do we care about an oil-less country with which we have minimal cultural and economic ties? Because we're contrite about the Holocaust? That sounds like a German problem- we certainly did our part in WWII.

    As far as who to trust about Iran's nuclear program- who cares? If we weren't blindly GIVING the Israelis piles of cash each year, and buying of the tyrannical Arab gov'ts around them, we wouldn't have to worry- it'd be afight between all of those fools, Muslim and Jewish alike, who think the Torah and Koran are reasons to kill people.

    This is not our fight and we need to get out of it.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:15 pm |
  42. Louise

    I wouldn't trust any of our politicians, Israel or Iran, as far as I could throw them. All are guilty of doing wrong to other countries. Israel has nukes, and no doubt Iran has them too. Don't be fooled by what any country's politicians say. They are a bunch of liars and can not be trusted.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:15 pm |
  43. David

    If I have to make a choice I would say I believe Iran. Which nation has a history of attacking others. Which nation didn't sign the non proliferation treaty, which nation is known to have undeclaired nuclear weapons.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:16 pm |
  44. Elvis McNeely

    Israel is well known for there intelligence. Something has happened to the US's stance and I don't buy it. There are too many non government people in the US who have been parading for years that Iran is a serious threat. In my opinion we don't need a report from the government. Israel is right and I am sticking with what Israel says and plans to do. Iran is a threat.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:16 pm |
  45. albert amato

    Hey Jack, based on how well our US intel was on WMDs, I am perfectly comfortable taking the word of the intelligence agency entrusted to protect Israel from a real existential threat.....nuff said.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:17 pm |
  46. Phil from NC

    Both sources are prone to exaggeration, misinformation and outright lies. I can't wait to see the administration spin this one – let's follow Israel into WWIII. We've already got two wars – how bad can a third one be? If Israel wants to attack Iran, let them – just as soon as our troops are out of the middle east and away from harm's way.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:17 pm |
  47. ALLEN MILLER

    I trust Israel's position more than the U.S. position. Israel's Intelligence branch is more informed based on past history.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:17 pm |
  48. Fuzzy

    Who cares what Israel thinks except for AIPAC and the corrupt Congress who sells out America to cater to Israels every whim. Elect Ron Paul and let us restore Liberty here at home. Israel has over 200 nuclear missles. Iran has 0. Israel can take care of herself. We need to take care of USA first, and screw this mentality that we need to police every corner of the world.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:17 pm |
  49. Henk

    Jack,

    I put equal credibility in the US, Israeli, and Iranian governments on this. They are all pursuing their own agendas. Iran does not like Israel nor the US and vice versa.

    All three of these governments are well versed in the art of disinformation and propaganda.

    How depressing that I trust the Iranian Govt almost as much as I trust the US govt. What has bush done to my country?

    Henk

    December 10, 2007 at 6:17 pm |
  50. elliot

    Jack

    I do not doubt at all that Israel is correct and that its intelligence on the Middle East is far superior than ours. Israel is more interested in its survival than oil. America backs Israel morally and its bing a fellow democratic nation. However, America is there for the oil and that is it.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm |
  51. James

    Let's see, who should we trust- the Israelis, who regulary spy on the US or the Iranians who are currently governed by a group of religious zealots who are furious at generations of Western interference? I vote for NEITHER!

    Or the CIA who seems to be unilaterally making their own decisions about what's legal and what's not.... thank God we have a free press and the Internet so the exchange of ideas is devolved to those who are objective: the people.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm |
  52. Ray

    It is apparent that it is Israel that has it in for Iran, and our puppet government, who has a sworn pact with Israel, is trying to start WW IV with Russia via Iran. Israel, being the warmongers they are, have to keep the "kids on the block" sub servant to them, so it's on to "bomb bomb Iran". Remember, it is Israel that has started all the wars they have been in for the last 20 years, at the same time blaming everyone else.

    If Israel wants to go after Iran, LET THEM DO IT ALONE, keep the US out of this mess.
    Ray

    December 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm |
  53. Edyth McNair

    Jack:
    Who would I believe? Considering that, ever since the state of Israel was created, the Arab world's tried to wipe it off the face of the earth? Just because the Israelis are paranoid doesn't mean that Ahmadinejab and company aren't out to get them. Besides haven't any of you people ever heard of a little thing called in intelligence circles disinformation?

    December 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm |
  54. Louis Falkenstein

    Remember that despots are capable of anything. Just look what the German's did in Europe. Israel knew what is was doing when it took out the Iraqi Nuclear program. If necessary Israel will not wait until Iran is capable of destroying the Israel State.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm |
  55. Darrell Fichtl

    Come on Jack, that's a dumb question.
    Who do you believe, Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee.
    Same question, same answer; NEITHER ONE!.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm |
  56. Aeden

    Why trust Israel – after all, they refuse to openly acknowledge the fact that they have nuclear weapons. In the wonderful game of double standards, it seems impossible to get an arbitrary answer from our own government, let alone that of a nation like Israel. Then again, what's the point in trusting the U.N., either? It's a body wholly-influenced by the global superpowers; an arm simply of the big boys that happens to provide lots of aide, but fails at positive diplomacy. In sum, Jack, to quote a man I recently heard, it's hard to ignore this fact in today's world: "It's getting ugly out there."

    December 10, 2007 at 6:18 pm |
  57. Mo

    Dear Jack,

    Why does Israel hide the fact that they have nuclear weapons and the US and Israel can dictate who can have a nuclear bomb or not? The US is the only country who has detinoated a nuclear bomb on humanity but our government believes we have the right to determine who has a nuclear bomb and who doesn't. Why do I get the feeling the Israelis are going to make us fight Iran for them like they did with Iraq.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:19 pm |
  58. Anne

    Let me think – trust the people in Israel and the neocons who lied us into Iraq or members of sixteen US intelligence agencies who realize that we can't afford another war?

    December 10, 2007 at 6:19 pm |
  59. Valerian

    Jack,
    I trust the Israeli government because if Israel makes the determination that Iran has become a security risk, it will strike the nuclear facilities regardless of what Washington thinks or whether such a strike might provoke another phyrric victory like its recent war in Lebanon.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:19 pm |
  60. ateeq

    Both Israeli and US intelligence was completely wrong on Iraq. How can we trust them with Iran now?

    December 10, 2007 at 6:19 pm |
  61. Bobby Banks

    Ok heres my take. Lets see: If our National Intelligence Estimate says that Iran gave up its nuclear bomb program in 2003 then we should just leave it at that. But if Iserael still attacks Iran (which they probably will) that is an act of war on the Isreali's part and they shall be dealt with.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:19 pm |
  62. Tyler Plimpton

    It's a testament to how dysfunctional our forays into Iraq and Afghanistan have become when our own intelligence agencies are unanimously against any Iranian invasion. The last time I checked, Israeli intellience didn't have veto power over that of the U.S.

    I serious question the sanity of anyone who, despite the NIE, is still pursuing war with Iran.

    Both of these war-mongering administrations have lost credibility. As reflected in Ron Paul's recent surge in the polls, the people are catching on, Jack, and mark my words, Ron Paul will win the GOP nomination.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:19 pm |
  63. Dante Jackson

    Who can you trust? The U.S. intelligence community has proven its incompetence when it comes to Iraq and Israel hid its nuclear program for years.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:20 pm |
  64. Martin

    Jack, Trust Israel? Trust this administration? I'm so sick of the crap that's being fed to us by our so-called trusted elected officials I feel like a mushroom.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:20 pm |
  65. Sanjay Kumar

    Jack, when was the last time we could believe any politician?
    SK, Maryland

    December 10, 2007 at 6:20 pm |
  66. bob from dover delaware home of the military morgue

    jack do you remember when India and Pakistan lit off their first nuclear test weapons? For weeks the CIA was trying to explain how they didn't know that it was about to happen and everyone questioned the "I" that is part of their name. Personally I don't put it past Monaco being a Nuclear Super Power at this point.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:20 pm |
  67. Antonio

    I wouldn't trust either israel or the U.S., both have proven to be world class liers of the worst kind.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:21 pm |
  68. Keenan

    Wise up Jack, you know that the Iranian nukes question is like the Iraqi WMD question of a few years back, it's a policy question and not a security one. Just like back then the US used WMD as a reason to invade Iraq, Israel uses nukes to rally the rest of the world to limit Iranian influence in the region...you can't blame Israel for wanting to be the only kid on the block with the ability to kill everyone else on the block. God I hate hypocrisy.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:21 pm |
  69. Valerian

    Jack,

    I trust the Israeli government because if Israel makes the determination that Iran has become a security risk, it will strike the nuclear facilities regardless of what Washington thinks or whether such a strike might provoke another phyrric victory like its recent war in Lebanon.

    Valerian
    Boston, MA

    December 10, 2007 at 6:21 pm |
  70. George

    Hmmmmm....Well, if Bush and/or Cheney are in the U.S. mix, we definitely can't go there...Both are veracity challenged (i.e., LIARS!). As for Israel, quote them the 9th Commandment FIRST! ...They've already bought into the graven image thing with US weapons and money.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:21 pm |
  71. Maha Kabbash

    I believe the conclusions of the sixteen U.S. agencies comprising the National Intelligence Estimate report, rather than Israel. If Israel claims to have evidence of an ongoing Iranian nuclear program, then it should turn that evidence over to the International Atomic Energy Agency for evaluation. Otherwise, it should deal with Iran itself, rather than encouraging the U.S. to give up the lives of American soldiers to promote Israel's own agenda. We have already lost enough of our men and women in Iraq. Given that our tax dollars provide billions of dollars worth of military aid to Israel every year, Israel is quite capable of fighting its own battles.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:21 pm |
  72. Bob D

    Does this report by the US government about Irans nuc program come from the same bunch that said Iraq had WMD? Do I beleive anything that this administration says? PLEASE give me a break!!!!

    December 10, 2007 at 6:21 pm |
  73. Jose

    hello jack. The answer is obvious. I trust none of them because its hard 2 confirm what the true purpose of Iran's nuclear facilities. Most of the critics believed Iran will use nuclear to threat the Western world, particularly, The United States. However, that was what the main stream media and intelligent told us. Now the intelligent report changed their words. Should we truly believe the intelligent report? I doubt it. Just like what happened in Iraq. The false intelligent led us to the war.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  74. Richard Mason

    It doesn't matter. For over 60 years, the Israelis have had unbelievable control over our gvernment. This has been especially true during the Bush term. Of all the ridiculous reasons our moron president has given for starting the Iraq war, the least discussed, but most reasonable, is that the Israelis asked/told him to do it.

    If Israel says that Iran needs to be bombed, Bush will do it.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  75. Steve in Hollister CA

    Isreal seems to be the only one who is not getting the wool pulled over their eyes. Iran if not devloping nuclear weapons in secet, is at a minimum attempting to get stray nukes or at least technical documents and materials from Russia and/or China.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  76. Michael

    Israel.
    I believe Israel's intelligence.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  77. Michael Rice

    Jack, I think our SNIE has missed the point. I have seem little that would make me believe that religious fanatics that feel either your a believer or your dead would change their stripes at this late date. Colorado

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  78. Glenn

    I don't think we can trust either. How do we know the defectors they get the info from are like the charlatan Ahmad Chalabi that suckered us into Iraq. Defectors have their own agenda. As for Israel it is always in their best interest to try and push us to attacking any Muslim nation. This is the IAEA's job, they are the ones with access. We need to make a deal here. One where Russia provides almost all of Iran's fuel while still allowing Iran to produce a limited amount of Uranium under strict IAEA inspection. Let's face it, the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty guarantees the right of any member nation to control it's own fuel cycle. If we didn't want that to be so then we shouldn't have put it in there. Then again nobody would have signed it then, would they?

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  79. Limor

    Of course I trust Israeli intelligence, since they have proved more accurate in the past. What do you think people will say? how ridiculous. So one intelligence organization says there is a program, one says there isn't, and CNN tries to use fox news tactics to get ratings. I wouldn't rely on either source but since America has been the one pushing for attacking Iran, and has been the one who has had bad and outdated sources of information, they just might not be telling people the truth. De ja vu?
    In any case, Iran doesn't need a uranium enrichment program to have nuclear weapons, they have the means of purchasing them from Russia. If they don't have weapons now, they will in a very short while, and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  80. Andre

    Who do I belive? USA or Israel? get real Jack, I dont believe any of them. Both Israel and the Bush Administration have proven time and time again that what they say and what they do only serves their immediate political objectives. Neither of them works within a given set of guidelines and neither sticks to any kind of rules or regulations. With that said, who is Bush or Israel for that matter to say what right Iran has or has not.

    The fact of the matter is that Iran has signed the NPT and joined the group of countries that condemn the use of Nuclear weapons, whereas the USA and Israel have not and in fact possess nuclear weapons. Iran has never used WMD's on any country, but Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons on Iranian villages with the support of the USA and the rest of the world. Maybe instead of sweating over Iran's nuclear program, its time to concentrate on a global nuclear disarmemant

    Andre – Vancouver, BC

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  81. Ralph Chesson

    There are a few of us that still remember the USS Liberty and our ability to trust Israel must always be based on their not only lying to our government but never really admitting their guilt. They are a wonderful people but like our country have leaders that one can not trust. The people of all countries are great ; it is just their leaders that are bad.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  82. Augustin Francois

    Israel has better intelligence than the US and Israel cannot confirm that Iran is developping nukes.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |
  83. James L. Whitney

    We can't believe either- utill Iran has weapons or our intelligence is willing to lie about them having nuclear weapons, let's leave them alone – True dipolmacy would be nice.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:23 pm |
  84. Tyrone in Detroit

    I'd probably trust the Israelis a lot more if they didn't spy on us so much. And I'd probably respect the CIA a lot more if they concentrated more on spying and less on hiding evidence from the DOJ.

    Sigh. Only Ron Paul and his wonderful blimp can save us now.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:23 pm |
  85. Sam

    If your neighbor is building a nuclear program in his living room you would know about it before the US who lives on the other side of town. It is a no-brainer the Israelis know what is going on more than us.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:23 pm |
  86. Ken Hixson

    I can't believe that all the coverage we have received from the mouth of Iran's president with his threats and plans that anyone doesn't believe in the Nuke threats as being real and that they are proceeding to carrying them out.. YES I agree with Israel....as my Dad used to say, "None are as blind as those that can't see"...Thank you Mr. Cafferety for your open door to public input (even as many are blind)....Lord help us.

    Ken Hixson from Vancouver, Washington

    December 10, 2007 at 6:23 pm |
  87. erik

    I think that it is same as with WMD before the Iraq war, Israel is making noise, but Wolfowitz is gone, and the rest of the Whitehouse is holding the wood stick out from the fire, they got burned once before.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:23 pm |
  88. James

    This time I trust the United States. Now Israel stands alone in its desire to go to war with Iran over more alleged "weapons of mass destruction." Lets get this straight once and for all. Iran is not a threat to any country with the possible exception of Israel. Yet Israel and its protagonists in our government the Neocons keep manipulating our foreign policy on behalf of Israel's objectives. They got us into war with Iraq, and now want to get us into war with Iran. When will it end? Maybe it stops now with our US intelligence agency standing behind the true intelligence rather than having Cheney and the Neocons manipulating the intelligence into lies for their own objectives of war.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:23 pm |
  89. Ray

    Israel's control of our government is appalling. APAC and other Israel lobbies have way too much control of our house and senate and the white house. What Israel wants, Israel gets from this Corp Gov state that we live in. Also the right wing Christians have been bamboozled by the Zions into believing that if we can just get WW IV going, then Armageddon will come. What a bunch of horse shi*.

    Ray

    December 10, 2007 at 6:24 pm |
  90. B Wagar

    Jack, I don't think you can trust either of them, but definately not Israel, the proud possesser of over 300 nuclear warheads and who refuses to sign the nuclear non-proliferation act while pointing the finger at everyone else, while Iran has signed it and is operating within the law according to the IAEA. Israel is intentionally pushing another war as they did in Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and Iran. When will our politicians stand up for America as against a criminal rogue country who is in violation of countless UN resolutions, US law with its
    Apartheid policies oppressing the Palestinians? Other than earning more international revulsion, why not make Israel a state and let them go to war and take the casualities instead of being their doormat? Trust Israel? I'd sooner trust Bush to tell the truth...about anything

    December 10, 2007 at 6:24 pm |
  91. kenH

    Iran is a threat (with or without the bomb) until the maximum leader, Kohmeni ,
    says the policy of Iran is NOT to remove Isreal from the map. The western nations cannot agree to reverse the UN resolution to establish the State of Isreal, which, by the way, is the only Democracy in the middle east.
    ken

    December 10, 2007 at 6:24 pm |
  92. Bernie Mac

    The U.S. Intelligence on Iran nuclear program was composed by sixteen agencies of our government.

    Of course together they are far more
    credible than Israel. The entire international community knows that the truth
    is not Israel's strong suit. They have repeatedly lied about their terrorist
    behavior at Palistine over the years.

    More importantly they lied many times about their own nuclear capability which makes them the fifth strongest nuclear power in the world, thanks to the
    member of congress for the past half century. Israel has enough nuclear warheads to destroy every Arab county and have some left over. But let someone try to generate a nuclear power plant and they go paranoid.

    I don't beleive anything Israel says because I have caught them in too many lies.
    Even the Bush administration is more credible than Israel and I never thought I would use the word "credible" with refers to the Bush administration.

    Thank you.
    Bernie

    December 10, 2007 at 6:24 pm |
  93. JACK

    Iran has been involved in acts of terrorism for decades and has supported terrorism. They use proxy groups like Hezbollah and Hamas who are bent on the destruction of Israel. Iran is also responsible for the deaths and maiming of hundreds of Americans in Iraq. They repeatedly claim that Israel will be destroyed and they are enriching Uranium. They have enormous oil reserves as fuel for energy production. Israel's intelligence is more reliable than ours which is routinely distorted by this administration.

    In short, is this "no nukes" intelligence trustworthy enough, given these parameters, for Israel to risk a mushroom cloud over Tel Aviv?

    Jack
    San Antonio, Texas

    December 10, 2007 at 6:24 pm |
  94. Douglas G.

    It is hard to know who or what to believe.

    The United States has a huge incentive to dial back the rhetoric about Iran's nuclear ambitions: The price of oil, which rises on any perceived supply threat, harming our economy and enriching oil-producing Iran.

    Meanwhile Israel, born of a people who survived persecution and genocide, has as its incentive, its very survival. With Iran undeniably aiding the murderous activities of Hizbollah, Hamas and others with the stated intent of destroying Israel, it is hard to swallow the notion that Iran has abandoned its nuclear weapons development.

    Of course, our enemies have probably already obtained the nukes the seek from sympathetic Pakistanis.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:25 pm |
  95. David

    Oh, I forgot one more thing. Which nation has more UN violations than any other on earth....?

    Nope, not Iran.....

    It's Israel.......

    December 10, 2007 at 6:25 pm |
  96. Ray

    Hello Jack:

    Having spent twenty years in Air Force Intelligence, you can trust Israely Intelligence for any Middle Eastern problems or Intelligence. After all, they have to safe guard their country. Remember, that over 97 percent of our Congress has never been in the military. Consequently, none of them have any idea what intelligence is much less what to do with it if it was dropped in their lap. That is only one reason that Congress must be limited to two terms.

    Thanks,

    Ray

    December 10, 2007 at 6:25 pm |
  97. wtexm

    Neither, what does England, Germany and France think?

    December 10, 2007 at 6:26 pm |
  98. Sheldon

    Believe in Israel's view; they have better Mid-East Intelligence. U.S. Intelligence couldn't determine the names of Donald Duck's three nephews.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:26 pm |
  99. Ron

    The NIE is a very flawed report and I don't trust the findings. It seems Condi Rice has won this round and we lost. Israel doesn't believe it and neither does British intelligence:

    Iran 'hoodwinked' CIA over nuclear plans

    Why on earth would anyone trust anything coming from this administration? They lied us into war, they can lie us out of war. What this report does is screw our allies and it destroys the chance for new sanctions that might avert a war.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:26 pm |
  100. Phil G.

    How can you trust either government? Don't they both want Iran wiped off the map?

    December 10, 2007 at 6:26 pm |
  101. A. Thompson

    Aren't Israel and the U.S. one in the same? I'm sure they conspired to keep the American people confused! Should we attack Iran or shouldn't we? Is this the good cop, bad cop mentality? Hmmm....

    December 10, 2007 at 6:28 pm |
  102. phil

    Obviously neither government can be trusted to tell the, "truth" baszed on their past record for false statements.
    One comment on the statement that Iran declared " Israel must be wiped off the map", I have heard alternate translatiions describing the much used phrase may have actually described regime change.
    I wish we had a translater we could trust.
    Phil

    December 10, 2007 at 6:28 pm |
  103. Mary Carter

    Are you kidding? WMD's? Maybe they've slipped back to Irag. They are sneaky little devils, popping up and disappearing as convenient for Bush and Cheny. I didn't believe the lies five years ago and I don't believe them now. As for Israel, they're as arrogant as the U.S. and we're at their beck and call.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:29 pm |
  104. Francis

    Neither Israel nor the United States can be trusted to speak the truth about Iran.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:30 pm |
  105. Robert Pollock

    Jack
    I do not trust the USA or Israel when it comes to starting a war. I believe Israel will attack Iran with bunker busting bombs that we sold or gave to Israel 2 years ago You can verify that by going to this Government URL Department of Defense

    http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=3320

    Robert

    December 10, 2007 at 6:30 pm |
  106. Mark

    Jack,

    I'm from Canada, and I don't mind telling you that I don't trust the United States or Israel, and for that matter I don't trust Iran either, when it comes to the issue of being direct, upfront, and honest on a topic as critical as this.

    I imagine that Israel's hardline response to the U.S. Intelligence Estimate is actually something that is being done after thorough discussion with the Bush administration. Israel is accustomed to playing the heavy for U.S. policy in the Middle East.

    It is no small coincidence that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs (Adm. Mullen) is meeting with Israeli leaders now. I am sure that he is there to reassure them that the U.S. has no intention of reducing its pressure on Iran.

    For the security of Israel and Western states, Iran cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons of any kind. However, I do not trust either the United States or Israel to handle this sensitive topic without turning it into another Iraq or Lebanon. When we are so desperate for trustworthy and noble leadership, what is the world to do?

    December 10, 2007 at 6:32 pm |
  107. Billy

    Israel or the US ???? What kind of a question is that Jack? Everybody knows you can't believe anyone but CNN. Why just the other day you gave us the answer to this question when you announced the NIE report is the GOLD STANDARD in intelligence. Why should have any doubt??? You guys have always been big supporters of NIE reports, haven't you?

    OH.... only when it suits you're political agenda.

    Well then in that case Jack, I don't know who to believe anymore. I will say this though. I don't believe IRAN. Not for a second. If Iran were to tell me tomorrow that CNN was a non-partisan news agency whose only interest was reporting facts, I wouldn't believe them.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:33 pm |
  108. Tari Aganaba

    I think the wrong question is beig asked. There are not many countries in the world that have credibility and therefor can be trusted with matters of integrity and human life and welfare. Not the US, not Israel, and certainly not Iran. I do not believe all three nations.Israel has no right to tell another country not to develop nuclear weapons while it is itsef stockpiling these horrible weapons. What does Iran need nuclear weapons for when it needs to be concentrating on economic and social development of the country. After the Iraqi debacle the US has credibility problem. The whole world should give up these weapons.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:33 pm |
  109. paul a.

    Jack:

    With all the hoopla about Nukes in Iran; we should understand that Israel's concerns has all to do with their own self interests. We should also understand that any move to attack Iran will open up a conflagration within the Middleeast and other major cities worldwide. What costs are we willing to bare for attacking Iran with possibly faulty information? The cost in human lives are already in the hundred's of thousands, including all sides because of egregious errors made by the Bush administration, add to those the lives which will certainly be lost is not something that we should bet on the smallest possibility that Iran has an active nuclear program. We should talk and talk and continue talking until the best solution is reached. After all, Iran, just like Iraq was once closely associated with us. (we supported the Shah of Iran until he was overthrown, and we supported Saddam Hussein in his war with Iran, giving him logistics, money, and munitions.)

    None of it is worth the lives of our young people, or the young people everywhere who are always made to fight for the stupid ideas of politicians who would prefer to die in bed than on the battlefield.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:34 pm |
  110. Dan in Boca Raton

    Do I think we can trust Iran to be honest about their nuclear ambitions? Absolutely not,Iran is a dictatorship that has one of it's chief ideolgical objectives,the obliteration of Israel. Can we trust the CIA's assesment re Iran's supposedly cancelled nuclear bomb program? I don't think so,has the CIA been demonstrably fallible in the not so recent past.Question, why did the Iranians just announce the development of what amounts to an intercontinental ballistic missile. To deliver flowers to their neighbors? Can we trust the CIA's assesment? The feature of the state of Israel lies in the balance.

    Dan

    December 10, 2007 at 6:35 pm |
  111. Ching

    Israel will attack Iran's Nuke facilities within the next few years. There are no needs for US to help them attack Iran. Israel belongs to the top 10 countries in the world who's constantly improving its war power. And what will happen after that is World War III as bush put it just a little over a month ago. It's all about the OIL. OIL. ENERGY. And more OIL.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:35 pm |
  112. Fitz Blackman

    The Israeli religious zealots does not believe 16 of our investigative units and does not have a nuclear weapon themselve. Which do you believe.

    Lets rid that region of all weapons of destruction regardles of who provides them.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:35 pm |
  113. Jason White

    The problem is the American government has cried wolf too many times and this time around we can't speak because I know we are not naive enough to believe a disillusioned dictator with any form of Uranium (enriched or otherwise). It is scary and Israel has a right to defend themselves. Unlike us, Israel has a track record of getting it right and every time they have gone after an aggressor, they have gotten them and validated their reasons.

    Let there be no mistake Iran is developing something, U.S. should just wait and see how Israel handles this and join only if Russia plays their hands because China is just going to sit this one out( I think).

    God help us all because this could just blow over or become something very big!

    December 10, 2007 at 6:35 pm |
  114. Adekunle Oladide

    The simple answer is neither, period. You can believe the US if you are intellectually "lazy than a fart" being gullible and ready to swallow the polical overlay on actual intelligence. Or you could be living in a fools paradise and believe the Israel. The truth is everybody know this is all about power struggle on who control the middle-East politics. I will never blame the Iranian's persistence for they cannot wait to be decimated one of this days by the Zionists. I would rather everybody get rid of their nuclear weapons.

    Kunlesky, Houston TX.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:36 pm |
  115. Mitch

    I'd believe Israel. After all, from a practical standpoint, Israel seem to be more capable of gathering real-time intelligence due to their geographical and strategical location. (i.e. Middle East Region)

    December 10, 2007 at 6:37 pm |
  116. Lisa

    I believe the U.S. but I know we'll do whatever Israel wants. This is why half of the world hates us and why we were attacked in the first place.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:37 pm |
  117. Will Witt

    America – not the Revisionist Zionist government. It was but a few years ago that a Revisionist Zionist, Benjamin Netanyahu, was crassly playing on American paranoia and lust for revenge by claiming that if the U.S. did not give Israel a free hand to destroy Arafat and the Palestinian Authority Palestinian suicide bombers would soon be showing up on American shores. They seemed to have lost their way. Olmert is equally manipulative. This man used two minor border incidents where Hezbollah and Hamas took a grand total of 3 IDF soldiers hostage to leverage the Revisionist Government to restart prisoner exchange talks Israel had squelched as pretexts to turn southern Lebanon into a dead zone and to destroy vital Palestinian infrastructure in the Gaza Strip. He like former Likud Foreign Minister Dory Gold and the former P.M. Netanyahu continues to try to manipulate the U.S. into destroying Israel's enemies – enemies Israel has acquired because of the Revisionist's illegal settlement and occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Olmert claims about Iran's nuclear program has no credibility.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:40 pm |
  118. Yasser

    Jack,

    Of course I believe the 16 American intelligence agencies. We all know that Israel has its own agenda in the Middle East, and it has already gotten America stuck in the Iraq quagmire.

    Let's not fall for it again.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:40 pm |
  119. Jan

    Is our government so aggorant that they trust in a report that is 4 years old. Perhaps that is why we are in sad shape. I don't think any of them should be trusted. Everyone sees all through the rose colored glasses.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:41 pm |
  120. Mel Gruber

    Jack;
    You have to start making your questions more difficult. This one's a "No Brainer"............NEITHER!!!!!

    December 10, 2007 at 6:41 pm |
  121. Tony

    What's the difference? We have been tied to the coattails of the Israeli leadership from Day One. As they say - follow the money.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:42 pm |
  122. debbie

    Dear Jack, I would believe Israels intelligence over ours when it comes to nukes in Iran. Israel is in a very precarious position over there and it behooves them to have excellent intelligence. It is a matter of their very survival. thanks. DM florida

    December 10, 2007 at 6:43 pm |
  123. Randy Dunaieff

    The correct question to ask is, "Who do you trust more? Israel or Iran?"

    The USA is no longer relevant when it comes to trust, truth, or honesty.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:44 pm |
  124. Daniel Z

    I hate to say it, but I believe Iran. The current U.S. administration has no credibility with the American public what so ever. Israel has been denying its own Nuclear weapons program for decades and has its own agenda. The evidence shows that Iran might actually be telling the truth, which is something Washington doesn't know how to do.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:44 pm |
  125. Shlomi Tsafrir

    I believe Israel on this matter.

    During world war 2, it was very comfortable to some people in the U.S administration to believe that the trains to Auschwitz were "loaded with candies", we were in this movie already...

    December 10, 2007 at 6:48 pm |
  126. Darren

    That's like asking if I'd rather have the fox or the coyote guarding the chicken coop.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:49 pm |
  127. David

    Given the track record and incestuous relationship between Bush and Israel, why should we believe either.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:50 pm |
  128. Ace

    Jack:
    It doesn't matter what we "believe".
    What does matter, is what Israel believes.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:50 pm |
  129. allen

    Jack,

    Isreal intelligence is not an oxymoron.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:50 pm |
  130. wayne seivers

    Bush and his dysfunctional administration has zero credibility with me. The word Bush and intelligence should never be in the same sentence. Our intelligence agencies may be on target but when they are able to be manipulated as they were prior to the Iraq war how is a person suppose to believe in them. I have no doubt that Chenney visted the CIA analysts with a hint of what he wanted the intelligence data to show as it concerned Iraq and WMD's. But the straw that broke the camels back for me was what happened recently with the destruction of CIA interrogation tapes. I wish Bush had the ability to just come out and tell the truth. It is laughable to suggest that these tapes were destroyed to protect the identity of some CIA agents. It was not so long ago that Bush pardoned a guy that got caught up and took the fall for administration higher ups who were involved in purposely outing a CIA operative. Bush wants it both ways and has been able to have it so. Just like words on a page are redacted does anyone not believe we have the technology to cover over faces on an interrogation tape. I am so tired of the American people being treated as though we are stupid. As far as Israel's intelligence gathering and who I believe concerning Iran's nuclear ambitions, I would have to go with Israel. Not for any other reason than I do not believe anything that comes out of Washington. I did not think I would live to see the day that one man, even if that man was the president of the USA, could wreak such havoc in only 8 years. If history is kind to Bush then history is a subject which should cease being taught in all 50 states. I wish Bush's future library contained only works of fiction and we were just living through a bad dream. This country needs to be a real democracy where so many quality people were not cut out of the process. It is a real shame what a person has to go through and what hoops they must jump through to run as an independent and have a real chance at winning. It really bothers me when I see people who worked for this administration, who day after day kept regurgitating the line out of the White House but when they leave write books stating how they really feel and try to distance themselves from this dysfunctional family known as the Bush White House. It is a shame that allegience to the American people does not trump loyalty to a president. Bush took advantage of Monica and Bill when running for president by saying he would restore integrity to the White House. He has cost people, such as Colon Powell, their integrity and does not have enough sense to know his integrity is shot. But he lives in a bubble and has no real idea what is going on. He sees this country from 30,000ft in the air on Air Force One. His nose is to high up (literally and figuratively) to relate to the people that way. He prefers to hang with a bunch of "yes" men.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:53 pm |
  131. GUS

    Lets see we have Israels retired militatary officers in every post from pentagon to CIA working for us. I dont think so they still work for Israel. Trust none becouse they are one and the same.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:54 pm |
  132. arsene lupin

    what exactly is the differnce
    the israeli lobby controls the US
    the tail wagging the dog

    December 10, 2007 at 6:54 pm |
  133. Marilyn

    Israel hands down.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:55 pm |
  134. zhang zhang

    Of course I trust Israeli intelligence.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:55 pm |
  135. Justin Johnson

    I agree with Tyler Plimpton that Ron Paul win win , not only the republican nomination but also be the next presidrnt of the United States. As far as Iran's nuclear ambitions are concerned, I haven't the slightest concern. However, I would like to know why none of the news media is concerned that Isreal'snuclear facilities are never inspected and also the fact that Isreal has never signed the non-proliferation treaty . They have 200 or more atomic bombs in stock and don't want anyone else to have any.

    December 10, 2007 at 6:56 pm |
  136. boyd

    Amadinajab denies the Holocaust. Canadians were fighting nazi's before Pearl Harbour. Jewish people should know who we defend. Massive mistakes were made in our last century. The two greatest wars known to man were won by the greatest men in all of history. Israel can rely on all the Alies to defend their people from such a monster. Canadians have a saying in hockey. "keep your head up".

    December 10, 2007 at 6:56 pm |
  137. cooper

    trust me israels source of information is far supperior to the cia.s information and as was pointed out their very existance depends on their intellagence information

    December 10, 2007 at 7:00 pm |
  138. G.R.

    Remember what happened to the boy who cried wolf too many times?

    Americans are numb to Bush's crying wolf.

    I'm saddened to say that even if America was in dyer danger, Bush has set a standard that would rival most pre-schoolers. Bush has possibly set America, and American's, up to be destroy by anyone who seeks to do so.

    At the least Bush has established a platform whereby every bully in the world can flog their harm on our homeland and people. And none of our so called law enforcement will be there to protect any of us. Sadly, New Orlean's Katrinna fated police who commited suicide may very well be the course of the day if an overall disaster ever did hit our homeland.

    Bush, and other government employees who have an anti-American citizen stand like him, have cut off the tongues of our voice to the degree that they are numb to our cries.

    May God find grace to protect those of us who hold the gift of The U.S.A. that He gave us in exchange for our willingness to be so very generous to those in need, but yet who have held dear the land He gave us as a precious gift to protect always.

    Now where is Bush's, and others like him, protect for this nation? I mean real protection, not the "crying wolf" baby talk we're getting now?

    December 10, 2007 at 7:00 pm |
  139. CALIFORNIAMARTY

    The question really is do we believe Israeli intelligence or the United States Intelligence agency that issued the report. The United States official position from the Commander in Chief is the same as Israel's. I believe them both.

    The intelligence community has no direct knowledge of what the Iranians are doing. They rely on what they think are intercepted LEGITIMATE messages between high Iranian officials. The messages could be and most likely are bogus to make an intelligence trap for fools. The Brits did the same thing to Germany to fool them on invasion plans.

    December 10, 2007 at 7:03 pm |
  140. Carmen Mazza

    Neither the US nor Israel can be trusted. Thanks to these two governments, we are now in Iraq. Israel has always been the instigator, so let them send their own army to fight its war against Iran and leave our American kids out of it. We should just be aware that this time, no allies would join us. It would be just Israel and the USA. Nice pair!!!

    Carmen Mazza

    December 10, 2007 at 7:04 pm |
  141. Bob

    Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!. What's the fourth choice??

    December 10, 2007 at 7:07 pm |
  142. Fannie in Dallas

    Please stop saying Iran wanted "Israel wiped off the map." It's so melodramatic and inaccurate. OF COURSE the current leadership in Tehran is opposed to Zionism, but this is FAR different from being anti-semitic. There are many reasonable people who believe the illegal creation of the Israeli State in 1948 was wrong and has led to many problems now- not just the nutcases in power in Iran but in the US, UK, Canada, Japan, etc.

    By constantly quoting a poetical comment by this moronic leader of Iran you make it sound as if the entire country wants to invade and destroy the people of Israel. What they are advocating is a political change no diff't from what we Putin is arguing for with Kosovo, or the Chinese are opposing in Taiwan.

    AIPAC might run Capital Hill but please tell me they don't run the press here too....

    December 10, 2007 at 7:13 pm |
  143. John R.

    Jack,

    After the WMD,crap in IRAQ who would believe anything U.S. leaks, If I had to make a choice, I would go with Israel's accessment, but only if they bomb the facility in Iran!

    Regards
    John

    December 10, 2007 at 7:23 pm |
  144. Keith Brouse

    Jack-
    Israel is one of the only country's mentioned in the bible, America isnt.
    i would VOTE YES FOR ISREAL.

    December 10, 2007 at 7:27 pm |
  145. oscar m. coile--Byron, Ga.

    I don't believe either one, Jack. Bush lied us into war with Iraq. And Israel has never kept an agreement with anyone. Any way, it doesn't matter, Israel runs our middle-east foreign policy.

    December 10, 2007 at 7:57 pm |
  146. Seth Bodner

    Jack, last time around we heard of intercepted military communications involving Iraqi generals discussing their wmd. This time, suddenly, we hear of generals complaining about a canceled wmd program. Both time the alleged conversatiosn conveniently support the interpretation desired by the generals' government. iraq, to bluff the world; Iran, to convince the US that they are no longer in the nuke game. l fear, indeed would bet, we know no more about Iran than we did about Iraq. We are being set up all around.

    December 10, 2007 at 8:10 pm |
  147. Jim Pankey, USN (Ret.)

    I think Darren probably hit the nail on the head...

    December 10, 2007 at 8:23 pm |
  148. Faran from Orlando

    Neither, because people who think that the United States of America only have 50 states are wrong, Israel is the 51st state of America. Why do we care if Iran has nuclear weapon, because it is dangerous for that country to possess nuclear then my question to you Jack is that why does Israel have nuclear technology; isn't that dangerous for the countries in the middle east. Don't get me wrong I love this country and my heart aches when I see this country in this position.

    December 10, 2007 at 9:08 pm |
  149. Akhtar

    Neither, knife fall on melon or melon fall on knife both ways the melon has to cut.

    December 10, 2007 at 9:16 pm |
  150. Delia

    LET'S SEND ALL OF THE DEMS AND GOP CANDIDATES TO IRAN AND ISREAL AND SEE WHO COMES OUT AT ALL.

    December 10, 2007 at 10:03 pm |
  151. John petitto

    Dear Mr. Cafferty,
    There is a simple solution to the middle east region-but no one has the balls to express it ......A nuclear free region

    December 10, 2007 at 10:31 pm |
  152. jim rogers

    this admistrasion are nothing but war mongers,& oil is thier only concern.they lied time & time again so why should we believe anything they say?? Why dosent anyone bring up the fact we cant afford this war let alone another one??

    December 11, 2007 at 12:06 am |
  153. alireza

    How come no one talks about Israel's nuclear weopons program?
    They already have the nuke but don't admit to having it.

    December 11, 2007 at 1:05 am |
  154. circy

    I think the real issue here is that no nation has the right to deny another the decision to develop nuclear weapons. After all, it is the U.S. who first developed nuclear weapons and we remain the only country to ever use them. So, isn't it extremely arrogant for us to say no one else can develop them? We've been saying that for decades while country after country acquired them. Pandora's Box has been opened and there is no turning back, unless we want to completely eliminate nuclear weapons in the world. That's a great idea, but it will never happen (We certainly wouldn't give up ours). I truly believe nuclear weapons have the potential to destroy the world, but until humans evolve beyond the current level of thinking ("you have them, so I want them too!"), there really is no solution. And threatening to use them only inflames the situation. Diplomacy can go a long way in calming the waters, but diplomacy from who? We were never good at it and the current administration has mostly abandoned it. Cooler heads are required on all sides.

    December 11, 2007 at 2:02 am |
  155. Carl Robbins

    Jack,

    The US, of course. Israel is trying to manipulate US public opinion as it did in the run-up to the war in Iraq.

    This is a rerun of the manipulation that led to the Iraq war.

    Ask yourself 3 questions about the "WMD" frenzy in Iraq - used as an excuse for war - as it is about Iran, now.

    1. Which country had the best intelligence service in the mideast, and would know if Iraq had WMD, ot not?
    Israel.

    2. which country would have taken defensive action if that close neighbor had WMDs?
    Israel, again, and in my opinion, rightly so..

    3. which country has benefited most from the splintering of a united, hostile, dangerous neighbor into helpless, warring tribal factions.? Israel.

    Once again Israel is attempting to manipulate US public opinion to serve it's interests with American blood and treasury.

    December 11, 2007 at 4:19 am |
  156. Katie

    It isn't that hard to make a nuclear weapon. An average physics student can do it! The hard part is getting the enriched radioactive material. And Iran IS enriching uranium. Now it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put one and one together. You will then get two....or for you slow learners (i.e. dummies), you get yourselves a nuke.

    The CIA and the rest of the American Intelligence (and I use that word very loosely) isn't capable of finding where Bin Laden is, you think they could discover what Iran is up to?

    Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    December 11, 2007 at 5:32 am |
  157. John

    I don't believe either one of them. It's more a question of who told the biggest lie.
    John
    Pampa, TX

    December 11, 2007 at 11:21 am |
  158. Carl Robbins

    My question, Jack, is why don't you have your own show?

    You're a lot of why we watch CNN in our house.

    Hey, CNN. Give us more Cafferty!

    December 11, 2007 at 12:39 pm |
  159. larry jeppesen

    While Bush was driving "Puttie" around his ranch and looking into his eyes to see his soul, Puttin was selling nuclear reactors to Iran!!

    France sold nuclear reactors to Libya today!!

    China just got a contract to develop the 2d largest oil field in the world from Iran!

    Russia, France, and China aren't exactly boycotting the Militant Muslims!!

    How long will Bush, Cheney, and Rice be in office??

    December 11, 2007 at 1:23 pm |
  160. Chip

    Isn't there a third option? This administration has believed in phantoms while being blind to white elephants. The attack on our nation slipped under the radar while a complete fabrication known as WMD's launched us into what is looking more and more to be the beginnings of global warfare.

    Then, on the other side, we have Israel who goes on the offensive claiming it's their only defense when an Arab nation so much as looks at them funny. Really, can I have another option so I can believe somebody?

    December 11, 2007 at 1:34 pm |
  161. David

    The problem is, we can't trust The Iranian Government or Bush. ( that's Bush's fault, not ours) I can't blame Russia for it's skepticism. I think foreign relations will be 100% more productive when Bush and his merry band of liars are gone. The world will trust us more.

    December 11, 2007 at 2:09 pm |
  162. Patricia

    Ok I'm late on this, but, I don't trust either of them. Israel is doing it out of fear for survival & BushCo is doing it out of GREED.

    December 11, 2007 at 2:21 pm |
  163. Mike- CA

    If you ever listen to Frank Cisnos piece on this issue, even he is somewhat skeptic about this report. In 2003 Iran maybe perhaps was incline to talk to US, but that's when Tehran had a more moderate leader, not the current wacko!

    If you are Israeli (by the way Israeli are not only Jews), this is the scenerio you should be thinking. If you are in a dispute with you neighbor, and he has publicly said to kill you, your family, and burn down your house. Another neighbor is saying that your neighbor that has a shrine with your picture marked for death and with your house in flame drawn in. They don't have a gun yet, but there are evidence that they are purchasing ammunications and parts to built a machine gun. You warned the local police (i.e IAEA), but they refuse a voluntary search by the police. Does it take a slide rule to figure this one out? If you need to defend yourself and family, what would you do???

    December 11, 2007 at 6:02 pm |
  164. Elizabeth

    I trust neither but trust this administration less. I can't understand what people were thinking when he got in office to begin with. He's a dufuss. keep religion out of all topics and everything from our democratic process, war, oil, and relationships with other countries becomes significantly easier to understand.

    December 11, 2007 at 6:11 pm |
  165. Steve Eyman

    My comment is this. What is Israel afraid of from Iran? Iran signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Agreement, but they want nuclear energy. Why?? With the second largest oil reserve in the world, why would they want to go to nuclear energy? Israel, on the other hand, DID NOT sign the NPA, but yet they HAVE nuclear weapons. Why?? And why is it such a secret that they have them?? What is Israel hiding from the world??

    December 12, 2007 at 1:05 am |
  166. chuck jacobs

    Ya know, it's a sad day when you have to ask this question Jack! Should we trust the people that told us that there were WMD's in Iraq or the man that wants to end America as we all know it? How about we just change the channel and watch a re-run of Seinfield maybe in 30 minutes it'll all go away!

    p.s. Jack, just bought your book and I love it! I gave up on people careing about issues and being honest till I caught you on CNN and have been reading youre book. You are a stand up man. But I'm sure you don't even read half of these anyhow so keep up the good work Cafferty file employees.

    December 12, 2007 at 9:27 am |
  167. CTurner

    " Keep in mind, although Iran insists its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for Israel to be “wiped off the map.”

    He never said that. It's a lie. A number of academics who read Farsi have pointed out to the news media that the phrase was mistranslated, but no one in the US media has ever followed up to correct this piece of propaganda.

    To the US media: Stop spinning people. Stop shilling for the hawks. Stop imagining that you are the only one who has a valid viewpoint on anything. Act like journalists. Do your jobs. If you need the name of a credible resource on this I can provide one.

    December 12, 2007 at 10:13 am |
  168. Fred Muehlbauer

    I don't believe any of them. The administration wanted this outcome to save face from the months/years of bellicos reteroric against Iran. Now that they don't have any support for military action, they needed a face saving way out of war.

    December 12, 2007 at 7:02 pm |
  169. Strykr

    Jack,
    I agree about not being able to trust neither US or Iran. However, most people seem to forget that Isreal has something Iran and US have yet to be able to deny or prove.. that's PROOF!! Folks seem to forget about a little known attack this past summer in which Isreal attacked and destroyed a "facility" in the Syrian desert. Several intelligence agency's in the region (besides Isreal) tracked trucks delivering suspected nuclear material/materials used to process said material to this facility from Iran to this facility in Syria. Isreal attacked and destroyed this facility. However, what was interesting following this attack was... NOTHING!! Neither Iran or Syria reacted or said a word about this attack to Isreal, the UN, world media, etc. Not to mention within a few days following the attack, Syrian officials completely "cleaned" this site. No Debris whatsoever and seemed to have all but denied it's existence. This just goes to underline the fact that we need to monitor Iran and verify their intentions. Also don't be so quick to accuse Isreal of "distorting" intelligence or facts.

    December 13, 2007 at 5:29 am |