By CNN's Jack Cafferty:
The stakes couldn't be higher for Thursday's vice presidential debate.
After the debacle that was President Obama's performance at the first debate last week, expect interest to be especially high when Joe Biden and Paul Ryan face off in Kentucky for their only debate.
At this point, in the face of plummeting poll numbers for the president, the Obama campaign must rely on Joe Biden to turn this thing around. Good luck with that.
Look for Biden to come out swinging, hitting hard on issues like Romney's "47%" comment, Ryan's controversial budget plan and his proposal to change Social Security.
As one Republican adviser tells Politico, Biden will bring his "proverbial nunchucks and brass knuckles" to the debate.
Of course, this has got to leave a lot of nervous Democrats, because with Joe Biden, you never know what you're going to get. While Biden is a seasoned debater who connects well with voters, he also tends to say dumb things from time to time. Just a couple of months ago, the White House had to sweep up after Biden after he told a largely black audience in Virginia that Republicans "would put y'all back in chains."
Ryan will no doubt ask Biden about foreign policy, including the murder of an American ambassador in Benghazi, more than 40 months of 8%-plus unemployment, a $16 trillion deficit, no federal budget for the last three years and so on.
There's also the risk that in trying to make up for Obama's weak debate, Biden comes across as too aggressive.
As for Ryan, he says the pressure is on him after Romney's strong showing last week. Ryan says he expects Biden to launch at him "like a cannon ball," describing Biden as a gifted, extremely experienced and proven debater. Really?
This is must-see TV Thursday night.
Here’s my question to you: In light of the results of the first debate, how important is the vice presidential debate?
Tune in to the Situation Room at 5pm to see if Jack reads your answer on air.
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It's important that Americans get a chance to hear where Biden and Ryan actually stand on key issues (voting rights, tax reform, job creation, defense spendings, etc). I watched the debate last week and after watching another Romney reboot on his previous stances, I absolutely would not vote for him even if he were the only candidate on the ballot. It makes me wonder if we will see more "switch-a-roo" on issues from Mr Ryan. I kept seeing a snake oil salesman (Mitt Romney) on stage asking me to believe what he was "selling". Sorry Mitt – NO SALE!!!!!!
Jack, not too important. No one expects much from Joe Biden. He is like that crazy uncle that you see at the family reunion. He is a nice guy but everyone takes what he says with a grain of salt. Joe will entertain and make a few gaffes which will be laughed off. Joe will do no harm but will do no good either. Joe is like Barney Fife to Sheriff Andy.
The debates are never that important anymore. But given that Ryan will likely be running for President in 2016, this debate will give him a chance to show that he can stand in there against a seasoned pro like Biden. Should be a good show.
More important than Ryan would like it to be, and not nearly important enough for VP Biden.
For someone like me who already knows where my vote is going, not important at all.
Critical for Obama.Biden might make a few stupid statements now and again but he is a savvy politician and will eat up Ryan like a cheeze sandwich.He will call him a liar to his face and back it up with facts.Can't wait!
There should be a debate. In order to have a debate it takes two participants that are engaged in the exchange of ideas. The first debate between the President and Gov. Romney you had one participant and the other seemed to be speaking to the moderator. A lawyer that speaks to the judge instead of the jury will probably lose every trial. The Vice President I believe will be much more engaged, in fact; if the moderator is not careful this might be a debate where a wrestling match might break out.
Joe Biden has a different approach to the policies of the administration. He can appeal to a different crowd than President Obama and may do well with those voters. Paul Ryan has a clear conservative message and knowledgeable with congress and the budget. The difference in the two policies will more clearly define the debate and the choice we have for the future of our country and less on who wins the debate.
It's important that Mr. Biden expose the falsehoods uttered by Mr. Romney in the first debate. Even Mitt's campaign had to come out with the broom and dustpan to clean up his remarks. For example, Mitt's health plan, whatever it might be, does not cover pre-existing conditions unless you become ill while you are insured. Essentially, what insurance is purchased for: covering you when you get sick. If you happen to be a person who has been uninsured and you become ill, under Mitt's plan you're on your own.
We are a funny species.
Only as humans can we listen to untruths and half truths and presume the person delivering these fables is the winner of anything. The big news was how Romney won, not that his arguments and promises were based on fiction.
Yet, we elect these people to govern us and to in part govern the world, therefore we must be a culture whose foundation is based on the lies we agree to be truth. No wonder we have become so stagnant.
In a race to determine if the country is led by Coke or Pepsi, the vice presidential debate will help determine bottles or cans.
Only worth entertainment value. Let Joe be Joe. But, Obama has to be the one to convince us why he should get another 4 years. We can't want it more than he does.
Carol in Northampton, Ma
Very, very, very important. We'll get two Washington windbags feeding us nonsense about deficit spending, free markets, terrorism, taxes, "entitlement programs", and on and on. What you will not hear is that the deficits are mostly caused by the federal reserve bank. That most terrorism is caused by our foreign entanglements and governmental support of a terrorist state. That free markets mean free from responsibility and accountability. That the country is worse off after giving the rich and corporations control of the government and thirty trillion dollars of Americas wealth. And that if you demonize programs that Americans paid for and deserve to benefit from long enough, they are stupid enough to believe that those programs are the problem.
If Paul Ryan does to Joe Biden what Mitt Romney did to Barack Obama, the GOP has the election in the bag. Romney steam rolled Obama and if Ryan does the same to Biden they will come across as a very strong ticket indeed.
Considering Biden's propensity for gaffes watching their debate could be like watching Saturday Nite Live.
Gary in Scottsdale, Arizona
I believe more people now plan to tune in to the Veep debate out of curiosity
and entertainment value more than anything. Does that make it important?
Yes, certainly, because voters will now be paying more attention to the race for whatever reason.
Another issue is the fact-checking: hopefully the media will be checking facts and
sorting out the lies. Romney won the first debate on the basis of his blitzkrieg attack and the President's refusal to be engaged. Now Mitt is rattling sabers in the mideast and seeing if that wins votes.
So, Jack, we'll all tune in to see the next strategies in this important and entertaining race.
In light of the results of the first debate, how important is the vice presidential debate?
Anyone at the top of a ladder can only fall down, those wanting to come to the top must climb.
The President was at the Top of the ladder, so the Vice Presidents must climb up to meet him (smile)
Jack: The Vice Presidential Debate is important, but not as important as the next 2 Presidential Debates. Rep. Ryan will try to wow people with numbers, and Vice President Biden will talk about the cuts of $11 billion to military veterans, how seniors will not like the medicare voucher program, and how the medicare voucher program will eventually hurt those over 55 years of age now. It will be a numbers verse peoples debate. Paul Ryan will use numbers, and Vice President Biden will show how people will be left out of a Romney/Ryan ticket.
Unfortunately it means very little. I have never seen the choice of vice president decide an election. The VP is like a spare tire. It rides around in the trunk for years as weight wasting gasoline on the off chance that one day you might need it. Sometimes it is flat and you still end up walking.
Despite Obama's less than stellar performance, and the fact we, as Americans and you as the media, put some much credence in these debates, the vice-presidential debates may well be the game changer; for either camps. Although Obama clearly has the vision and wherewithal to lead this country out of this economic mess, it almost as clearly evident that we are inclined to pick our next president merely on the strength or lack thereof of a presidential debates, where the answers as well as the very questions are scripted and rehearsed by all parties involved. "Mitt Wrongly" is an habitual liar! ready to tell a lie just to fit into his agenda...at any cost he is willing to be less than truthful or at the very least transparent about his real doctrine...A doctrine based on the haves and the have nots...He cares less about the middle class than his rich friends do about mowing their own lawns....I only pray that Biden is able to amplify this during his debate with Ryan, unlike Obama was able to do. ..so,....Go get him Joe!
Ask yourself, how important was Joe Biden for the last four years? Next question.
Now that Willard has set the table with his anti-middle class policy. It'll be up to attack dog Joe to bring all of the pitfalls out with the author,Paul Ryan. Who will be trying to sell this "good deal" to the American people. If, these two get in......well....then, the Hoopleheads deserve they get. Think, before you vote!!!
Not important at all. Any semi-intelligent voter will not be swayed by the less than truthful rhetoric espoused by both candidates. They will make a decision based on facts.
It's important in at least this aspect.....................Paul Ryan will make old man Biden look like the grandparent trying to learn how to use the Blu – Ray DVD Player listening to his grandson.
Time has passed Biden by. His day of slick, back slapping – wink wink back room deals are over. It's because of politicians like him that we have a REAL unemployment rate of 15 -18 %. Worshipping unions for votes has almost destroyed America.
Honestly, I don't think debates actually change a voters' mind. I can't imagine there's that many people who haven't already made up their minds at this point. It's the media's job to create this hysteria. Good job by the way
I don't vote for vice presidents, and I'm not voting for Romney and Paul what ever his name is.
The only thing the Presidential debate showed is that neither candidate has a solution for the economy. Obama continues to make excuses for his failed economic policies, and Romney will say anything that the crowd wants to hear. The Vice Presidential debate will more that likely show the same thing. NOTHING!
The solution to the current economic conditions is simple. Spend our way out of it, and the way to do this is to put cash into the hands of the low income and poverty. A $500 a month government rebate check issued to all individuals earning less than $30k a year, and made continuous for 3 to 6 months, will force growth from the bottom up even if the right wing radicals attempt to shut everything down. Spending from the bottom will generate jobs & tax revenues while reducing entitlement costs.
Don't cater to the radicals who want to shut everything down for political reasons, or for whatever other ridiculous reason they have, beat them at their own game by spending around them. We need trickle up economics, and not trickle down economics. Should someone ask this question at the Vice Presidential debate? Will we get an answer or more excuses?
I personally don't think that the debates changed but a few minds. The President will win this election. Too many people depend on their only defense...a fair, balanced government, run by those representing the many segments of this country, and not by the fat cats in Wall Street.
Profit, greed and outright lies must not govern this country or we will eventually lose it. A government by the peoplle, for the people will perish if we are not careful.
It really doesn't matter so long as one of them doesn't pull an "Obama".
I think Biden should be himself, get a food taster for 24 hours before his debate and be certain the taster isn't a bit confused, and he should not worry about this type of question. He has a wonderful personality, is very bright, knows and UNDERSTANDS the issues, and has an opponent with a very bad temper, a singular view of the issues and is somewhat confused about what to say when it comes to the issues and the which views the "top" of the Republican holds. (We all are a bit uncertain about that, as a polite person, I never have learned how to handle someone who outright lies, the choices are being uncharacteristically rude or appearing confused without an answer.)
Biden's between a rock and a hard place – no matter how well he does, it won't make up for Obama's stunningly poor performance, and if he also does poorly, then that's it folks, the fat lady has sung and this ball game is over!
Very important, Jack. Depending on the election outcome, either of these 2 men could become the president. Its important to hear their views on the topics.
In this era of political theatrics, Joe Biden is a valuable crowd warmer for the President. Obama’s supporters have been in a funk since Romney’s blowout in the first debate.
The debate will be fun because of Joe; his comments will predictably be the highlight of the debate. Joe will win the debate and give Obama a rebate on the points he lost in recent polls.
Usually VP debates are a side show, but this time it will really have an impact on the election. Only the President knows why he let Romney off the hook, and now Joe Biden is going to have to come out and take Paul Ryan apart. This country simply can not risk going down to a Romney/Rysn administration. Neither one of them is qualified, and they have proven it many times over. Biden has to expose the flaws in their policies, or it's lights out for America.
I hope Biden is more aggressive, and calls Ryan out when he lies, or evades answering the question.
Or just denies holding a position he's been campaigning on for 6 months, like Romney did during his debate.
Obama just let Romney get away with reciting his talking points unchallenged, like in the Saturday Night Live skit.
It's crucial...if Ryan wipes the floor with Biden like Romney did with Obama, it's all over. Biden will probably be talking about Big Bird instead of Big Problems like jobs, the economy, Afghanistan, the Libyan Consulate disaster etc. The Dem's have sunk to the lowest levels ever.
Does it really make a difference. We hear how Obama has double the debt since becoming President. Well so did Reagan and so did Bush and so did Bush II and while I'm not sure maybe even Clinton.
I can't picture Paul Ryan as president in case "President Romney" sneezes, so I'll watch.
David, Las Vegas
They are not really that important. No one is going to support or oppose Romney because of Ryan and Biden is a known quantity.
The importance of this debate is minimal. The main thing I'm looking for is to see what all Paul Ryan is really going to admit to and elaborate on his budget plans. Otherwise it will serve as good humor.
Maybe Biden will feel like this is all on his shoulders and if we are lucky he will have a good debate. I hope if he hears a lie he will jump all over it . Obama is the top of that ticket and it is on him that his debate was lousy. I hope he does not want Joe to clean it up. Time for Obama to Own what he has done to his own campaign. Joe can just stand there and Gaff the night away, still better than his Boss!! Yes I am voting for Obama!!
I thought Vice President Biden was flat in his convention speech, ( for him anyways ), because he was just reading the script that was presented to him, word for word. If there are no telepromters in the Vice Presidential Debate, we will see Biden at his best, and I wouldn't be surprised if more viewers tune in than in the first debate, between Romney and Obama. I would bill the debate as Plato vs Popeye. There won't be any rope a dope strategy employed by Biden here. Although Romney won the viewers award in the first debate, for his delivery and zeal, Romney also put enough gaffes out there, while he kept Obama pinned to the ropes, to keep Obamas Campaign Commercial Team working 48 hours a day geting the material out. Remember the Big Bird comment by Romney on election night. To answer the question, the debate is important because a lot of people are going to watch it, and it will give us the opportunity to watch Joe Biden, perhaps the most entertaining person on the planet right now, for a full two hours. I am getting a little long winded here, but since half the comments got inadvertantly, ( I assume, I do it to myself on ocasian), cut off last Thursday, I am awarding myself more space than I usually take. I am not complaining though. The reward is in the writing for folks like me, and that these words actually get printed, or even worse, read on the air, is the risk we take, not the goal we hope to achieve. Doug, Pepperell, MA.
To me, not much. I've been paying attention for the entire last 4 yrs. I know where my Republican party, Romney/Ryan stand. Hint: It isn't with my best interests or those of my family and friends (republicans) We all know it. Some of us do have a brain. Grover Norquist says he only needs a President with 5 digits to sign well, whatever Grover thinks we, as Americans, need. I think not. I have 5 digits and they'll be checking the box for Obama. Let the puppets stay on Sesame Street: We don't need one in the White House.
Not as important as the two upcoming presidential debates. But it will be fun to see if Biden can entertain us. The fact is that if Romney continues with showing strength he will continue his surge. but if he does not, then Ryan's debate with Biden, even if Ryan shines, will not matter much. But a strong Romney Ryan performance will seal the deal.
Not at all. It will only emphasize the strength of the Romney/Ryan team....
Romney's ambitiously muddled math doesn't take into account that our largest trading partner Europe will not be buying all the export goods our economy needs to follow his GOP Agenda. Obama's steady state no drama continuum seems to be working though not as fast as the public would hope. Ryan and Biden have a lot of holes to fill. And the debate will be really entertaining given the reality show pre-production tension that fills the Nation about this election.
I can't wait when Ryan will school Biden on the national TV .
The VP debate is important in answering the question: Who is capable of assuming the presidency in case, God forbid, something happens to a sitting president? I believe that's about it, Jack.
It Speaks volumes for the proper direction of this implosive country and those with oversight..The fact Biden sat watching obama embark on making Afghans "rich" building nation for junkies should be enough to get rid of this administration.but, I see paul ryan drinking beer while on a plane discussing budget that impacts milllion of lives. THey bettor be more clear and concise or niether will get votes needed
Jack, the president is the president poor Joe can only do what he does best talk to the people and hit Paul hard. Paul is a weak ling Joe must give facts and figures call out Paul. Sadly it might not be enough to dig Obama out of his own grave. Jack, he dug it not Joe.
Not much the main thing is for each candidate to keep their cool. Make their points no matter how differnet for each other which they are. Are we really looking for debate kings or a President and Vice President the later we have no real choice on. Now if we could vote for Obama Ryan or alike then the Vice Presidentual debate would matter other wise it is mute.
My money's on Biden - and on Obama, literally - since Romney and Ryan pretty much promise the death penalty for senior citizens who are dependent on Social Security and Medicare. We might not have been - had the previous Republican not crashed the market. Now, we are, and our kids aren't up to supporting us and shouldn't have to. So let's hope Biden KO's Ryan and that Obama wakes up before his next encounter with Ruinme.
A vicepresidential debate is not as important as a presidential debate. In the end people will vote for the number one on the ticket.
If Joe Biden doesn't somehow turn into Bill Clinton and save the democrats through wit and charm, then the republicans will be looking at an easy win thanks to early voters.
Despite all the pundits rhetoric and hype or exaggerated discourse on who was effectual or ineffectual, my take on the first debate was that it was anything but a debate. What I got from either candidate was an opportunity, which they both took full advantage of, to spout a rehash of their campaign ads for free. Nothing and I mean, nothing, came from their lips that offered any credible information, details, or insight to any actual or concrete plans to bring about a solution to any of our economic, political or social woes. It was like watching and listening to a collage of all their weary campaign ads rolled into 90 minutes. To me, this first "debate" was as useless and ineffectual as striking a match under water. Due to this fiasco and coupled with the fact that Romney is not really the Republican Party's principal candidate in this election, that spot being filled by Ryan, the upcoming debate between Biden and Ryan will carry much more weight than the first Obama/Romney meeting. Ryan was chosen to give a semblance of legitimacy to Romney as a candidate for the presidency and his "performance" and it is just that...a performance, is much more critical than how Romney did or will do in the remaining debates. Obama will not be so passive or resigned in the next two meetings which will then lay more importance on the shoulders of Mr. Ryan's debate.
"like a cannon ball" ? really ? isn't he more like the "attack dog" ?
Jack, in sports they'd call this one a "must-win" for both campaigns, but this is politics in 2012, making it a "just don't screw-up" for both.
This debate as in the first presidential debate have little meaning.
We judge the winners and losers based on untruths and half truths. We have a society whose perceptions are based on these lies, therefore they form false beliefs.
When we go back to a culture based on truth instead of on winning or losing is when we all can truly win by becoming one.
This one and only vice presidential debate is important only from an entertainment perspective and I expect it to be very entertaining. That being said, I expect the Saturday Night Live version to be even more entertaining.
Joe Biden many times puts his foot in his mounth but he is always direct and honest and that is a welcome relief in politics. As for Paul Ryan, we will have to see if comes on stage and does the 100% turnaround that Mitt Romney did in the first debate with the President. I could not believe what Romney was now saying -- does he, himself, actually know what he believes after so many turn-a-rounds? Now we will have the opportunity to hear Ryan defend his Tea Party thinking, especially his voucher system concering Medicare and this time, not in front of "friendly" pals on Fox News who let him get away with saying anything, but, instead, in front of a Biden and the American people. I greatly fear a Romney/Ryan win and their ideas for Medicare plus the drum-beating I hear from Republicans concerning war with Syria or Iran. There will never be a military success in dealing with the Middle East. It must strive for a negotiated peace, along with our allies, and not another Republican war.
Bill Clinton was not running for office at the Democratic Convention but by defining what Obama stood for he drew a clear and distinct line in the sand. Biden needs to do the same, draw a line and define. He should be able to get a strangle hold on Ryan by attacking his budget and his stand on Social Security.
I hope Ryan eats that worthless old man alive.
It will be interesting but not as much as the media would like to build it. Ryan was a poor choice for Romney according to the gossip on the street. He was/is a major factor in the "do nothing congress". Which hasn't made many of "We the conservative" very happy. Joe Biden is a fun loving politician and really has done President Obama "NO harm". Many of us talk the same talk as Joe. But Ryan has been a stumbling block to "We the people" and the 47% Conservative or generous Liberals who collect our/their "paid into" Social Security and Medicare. Neither Ryan or Mitt have any foreign policy worth considering. Yawn...
The one who should be nervous is Ryan. If Mitt is elected...Ryan will probably be put in the same position that Johnson was under President Kennedy. In My opinion.
It is very important because it will either continue Romney's momentum if Ryan does well, or it will halt the momentum if Biden does well. Biden, as a VP, has more leeway to go on offense and he should.
Vice-President Biden is a much more seasoned debater so he will probably do very well. Paul Ryan should tell his personal story and then just stick to the numbers. If he doesn't get flustered he should do just fine.
It ll be important but not definitive. I think it was hard to debate Romney because he was a different person than he was last year, last month, and last week. He changed his positions (I won't say beliefs, he has none) even from the 47% speech he gave behind closed doors to his wealthy donors, very secret, at least so he thought. It didn't go over so good so he had to quickly shuffle to the new 'do anything to win' I am for 100% of the people...don't believe that man behind the curtain. I love 'short people, tall people, they are just the right height, I love poor people, I love rich people (really love rich people) I love working people, I love Planned Parenthood, I love women's abortion rights, I will show my tax returns...oops.
biden will eat him alive!!!!!! Watch out, Jack, Mike Allen of politico sez Mama Romney ahd her boys have taken over campaign. bobl ocala, fl
Obviously selection of the VP is not terribly important since last time Joe Biden was selected. Joe has had an opinion on virtually every foreign affair issue since he came onto the scene years ago.....and has been bassackwards on virtually every foreign policy issue since he came onto the scene years ago. I'll watch the final few minutes just to watch Joe getting wheeled off stage in a straightjacket.
It's interesting but not important enough to turn the election one way or another. I'm looking forward to Ryan doing the math for his team's tax plan. He should take all the time he needs. If the math is so hard that he can't explain it, then why should anyone bother to vote for it? Sorta reminds me of the explanation of Obama's healthcare plan - can't explain it but vote for it anyway. No thanks.
I look for Biden to bring his numchucks and for Ryan to bring his dumbchucks.
Look at the last election when Sarah Palin lost McCain the election.
Don't know how important it wii be, Jack. I am not a seer. But if anyone is stupid enough to vote GOP in the election, then I have no hope for America. The sight of Ryan makes me nauseous, so will not watch. The President at his worst is better than Romney-Ryan.
I do not think Biden can have any sound claim on the achievements of the current administration. However, he can do the dirty job. I hope he may not use the F... word in the process. Biden can fill what Obama left blank. However, people can experience if Romney is a moron as Obama camp advertise or not thru the debates. Anyway it is an opportunity for Biden to express his loyalty to Obama attacking Rayan and vice versa. Educated public is hard to BS by politicians unless they are biased to the core. So thru the debate people may understand bit more about the policies and the men involved.
Well if you ask a democrat, they say its not important because they know Biden is going to get spanked! If you ask a republican, they will probably say it doesn't matter as we will be sitting back with a bucket of popcorn wathcing Biden dig a deeper hole than Obama left.
Each upcoming debate will be extremely important. If there is the perception that Obama/Biden wins any of the remaining debates, it will trumpeted by the DNC and the media nonstop and they will call the first one a fluke. With such a huge swing in the polls, it is their only hope at this point
Granted Joe Biden had part of his brain removed 20 years ago, but it was not very big and nobody even notices. Reagan has Altzheimers and nobody noticed that either did they? Obama has set up our future well. The printing presses will deliver all the money we need. And Uncle Joe is trustworthy.
I hope not important at all. As an Obama fan I always cringe when Biden speaks. I'm not sure Obama campaign can handle many more hits in the polls right now. I sure wish Mitt would have picked a candidate with the presidential IQ of Sarah Palin, I know I would feel much better about it.
Not important at all-Voting for the presidency, not vice presidency. Either way, neither party will do much as the 2 sides in Congrees DESPISE each other. Nothing likely to change except their increased WEALTH.
As the saying goes, the Vice President is just one heart beat away from Commander in Chief. Who do you want in the Oval Office, God forbid, something happens to the President? To me, Biden in charge of anything but paper clips would be a horror of horrors.
Maybe Ryan should show up in chains?
Important, just like the first one. To show the American People how Obama has lied to them about Romney and Ryan.
All the debates are important. It gives us a chance to kind of "see into the soul" of the speaker.
In the first debate, I saw a remarkable exercise in someone convincing himself he's telling the truth. The other guy? You could see his soul ... because he has one. I am definately looking forward to the next two debates between these men. As for the VP debate, all Joe Biden has to do is quote from the zillion-page financial plan his opponent's been pushing and pushing.. What IT says and what Ryan (and Romney) says are polar opposites. Again. Look for the soul. Was it ghandi that said you can judge a country by how it cares for the least of it's people? Yes. Take a chunk of my Soc. Sec. and use it for a Vet who needs help adapting. Sorry for running on.
The debates carry no wight in my book.
I don't want to get "Bush-wacked' again so I'm vothing for The President.
Ryan will tell the truth like Romney did and Biden will rant and rave and say absolutely nothing meaningful. They won't dare bring up the sorry negetive numbers they have put up from unemployment to the deficit the only thing they can brag about is the much more number of families on food stamps. It will be very important if Ryan keeps rminding the american voters of what sorry state our country is in because of lack of leadership.
I am waiting for the next Presidential debate. I feel that the President is going to surprise all of you about his bad first debate. Just remember, one of his favorite pastimes is playing poker. He was taking notes at the last debate on Romneys "tells" ) a poker term).. Just a thought from a die hard Liberal...
How important is it? Easy. if Biden appears to win, it will be the most monumental thing in (vice) presidential history. If Ryan appears to win, it will be insignificant and result in another Sesame Street attack on Romney.
Very. If my insomnia flares up....
Unless Representative Ryan "mops the floor" with Vice President Biden, I seriously doubt it will have any effect.
This debate is very important. The reason is the public gets the answers to specific questions without the typical politician spin and the almighty tele-prompter where someone else wrote the speech.
It's improtant but we don't elect a VP. If the President wants to lose, it will show up on the 16th. I only hope that the people in this country are ready if they decide to put Romney in charge of their future. We get what we deserve if the GOP gets in charge, a fast pace to bottom.
Biden will have his chops busted with this debate. He hasn't got a chance!!!
Biden could never come off as too aggressive after the way Romney conducted himself. It was impossible for Obama or any other candidate to debate someone who is constantly on both sides of an issue while trying to debate him. Romney flip flopped so much that he must have lied at least half of the time. Both sides of an issue cannot possibly be the truth!
Biden only needs to describe Romney as a Bully
Romney is simply a bully
Forced the closure of few companies to make big money
Now he talks about world dominance
Just plain arrogance and mere ignorance
Talks highly of his faith
But he is just a reprobate
Nations must compromise for Peace
We do not want America as the Police
Mitt Romney is a man who will say whatever it takes to achieve his goal. The first debate has clearly demonstrated his adaptability. But that also means we really don't know what he stands for. Is he more moderate now than just a few months ago or does hes just pretend?
The VP debate should give us more insight what the Romney/Ryan ticket is really about. After all, Romney picked Ryan as running mate for a reason.
Therefore the VP debate seems to be more important than ever. It can show us the fundamental differences within this ticket. The heck, there should be really a debate between Romney and Ryan to see who has the pants on.
It's obvious most media outlets like a close race for ratings purposes and treat the Presidential race like a sporting event. In the first debate they appeared to keep score by the amount of lies and misleading statements or denying of earlier positions. If the score is kept the same way in the VP debate then it's already a forgone conclusion that Ryan will win. Simply stated – Obama and Biden are too honest and too honorable to beat these two chameleons.
VP debate will be he-said, she-said.
Meaningless. I'd rather watch Snooki.
The VP debate is very important.Since Mr.Obama,tried to play nice and let Romney run away with lies and the American people did not get the facts,perhaps the VP debate will clear the smog and we will now know what Romney and Ryan are hiding from Americans.
What baffles me is the way Americans can be easily deceived by a sales pitch made by Mr.Romney in one debate and feel he is now a credible candidate overnight.The Guy just wants to be president,and has no clue what he will do when he assumes the role-maybe a lot of etch a sketch.Romney should never be allowed close to the white house or George bush's adventure will be a childs play.
I'ts not important, a total waste of time.
Its effect on a campaign can only be negative. A VP candidate's performance won't get a ticket elected, but it will weigh down one that is taking on water. Biden needs to be reined in and not make one of his characteristic gaffes. Ryan needs to avoid looking like he wants to take food and medicine away from seniors and poor people.
"If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it." ~Mark Twain
Does that answer your question?
The winer will tell you very important the loser will say the VP debate doesn't matter.
Jack, if Joe doesn't hit a homer Thursday night, the Obama/Biden campaign might soon just wake up on the wrong side of 6 feet of dirt, if you know what I mean.
What I would love to see is the truth – not lies, not etch a sketch moments. I want to know what these people are going to do. I am disheartened that America has no moral courage – Romney was labeled the winner but did not speak the truth. That is not a winner but an agressor! This election is so critical – every exchange of point of views is so important!
Jack, I think this debate will be highly interesting but with little impact other than the danger of letting Joe talk. However if this debate shows Ryan as an overwhelmming winner and Romney wins the next one, it have people thinking a little harder about staying with Obama.
Yes it's important that the people will see Biden as a bag of hot air. I predicted Obama was going to fall apart now Biden will fall apart. Biden will open up the voters eyes. Remember in the Democratic Primaries in 2008, he was dead last. Second item, the future Obama Romney debate with the Town Hall setting will destroy Obama. He can't deliver quick responses and he can't function without a teleprompter. He dwells and dwells on details that puts people to sleep. So we'll see whose right on both of these debaters. Good luck to all the Democrats.
Very little. If Joe Biden were to debate Dan Quale, then we could see who is the most unqualified to be in the #2 slot. Ryan can just stand there and wait for Biden to say someting stupid. It may be intertaining, but, not have much value.
Debates are about visuals not substance. Doesn't matter if candidates lie, as long as they look good doing it.
It promises to be entertaining, but only important if one clearly outshines the other. The importance of that is that it could either sustain the momentum from the first debate if Ryan wins, or grind that momentum to a halt if Biden wins. If I was a betting man, I'd put my wager on Biden. The over/under on how long it takes for Ryan to get that "deer in the headlights" look is 2 minutes. Bet the under.......it will happen less than a minute into the first question.
This debate will not mean much to voters who have already made up their minds about whom to vote for but it could have a significant impact for those still undecided. Although most people dont think about the vice president when walking into the voting booth, if the Democrats lose two consecutive debates more undecided voters may steer toward Romney as well as further energize the Republican base. Conversely, if the Vice President wins, it deminishes the returns of the "fiscal responsibility" platform that the Republicans have been campaigning on.
Well, depending on how Ryan and Biden would perform, polls might vary for either of the parties. Of course, Biden sometimes can slip words that can make the democrats nervous. Even the republicans have not considered Ryan as a serious candidate. In fact, most people do not see a VP in Ryan. Most importantly the varying poll results may not affect the seasoned voters much, nor do the debates. Most voters would have decided anyway whom they are going to vote.
Very important because if Ryan spews out as much garbage as Romney did against Obama the uninformed public is likely to believe it as well as with Romney! Where oh where did the truth go, or was it ever there with the Republicans?
Jack, the ininformed voters are often those who must work long hours to provide for themselves, so they must rely on simple things to inform them. The Republicans are banking on that and exchanging truth for winning the debates!
The American people need to hear these two gentlemen and we need to listen. We need to have a strong leader as second in command, God forbid something happen to our next elected president. I believe Mr. Ryan will take the debate. As an independent I give to the campaign closer to election time after I make my decision. Anyone who would give to the Democratic Party only to have them run million dollar Big Bird campaign bs. really? Democrats spend money on Big Bird? I didn't know he was on their mission statement.
i'd say its not as important, but it will have some weight behind it... If biden is as clueless as obama was, Ryan will mop the floor with him... i mean Ryan is going to mop the floor with him anyways, just depends on how much biden can hold his own.. we know biden is a seasoned politician, but sarah plain mopped the floor with him.. so im sure Ryan will have no problem.. You see in a debate, the problem for liberals is their funky policies never stand up to the light of the sun.. so its easy for a smart conservative to knock their talking points right back in their faces... lets just see if biden can hold his own.. doubtful..
Many people will tune in just to see if Biden can control his self-destructive habit of saying bad things at bad times. He is the Quayle of our times.
I voted for Obama in 2008 because Joe Biden was his choice for VP. Although Biden is prone to gaffes from time to time, there is no one in Washington who knows more about foreign policy. Contrary to most beliefs, I believe Biden will crush Ryan in the debate.
Jack, Mitt did so much damage to Obama and his policies in the last debate, the VP debate might not be enough for the candidates to gain any of the lost momentum. I think its very important to hear about what the candidates have to say, but to me and lots of other Americans, actions typically speak louder than words.
U r so negative, Jack! Biden will rise to the occasion and do fabulously! jean weber, Smethport PA
People do not have much faith in Joe Biden to make a huge gain and they also have high hopes for Paul Ryan to knock out the gaffe-maker. So in this debate, Biden needs to blow off our socks and Ryan needs to live up to our expectations.
For the Dem's its everything and for the Repub's it nothing. And then It will be forgotten by all.
I already like VP Biden. But I love Big Bird. I already know about the economy, foreign policy and the military. But I love my Masterpiece Theater and my Medicare.
I'd rather we had another presidential debate first. God forbid, Biden sounds more presidentialthan Obama...
Cafferty did you just say ..unemployment above 8.0%? .. come on is 7.8% ..Maybe Biden will ask Ryan about his Budget and Mitt Romney's 47 % comments, love how you and wolf Blitzer became a Megaphone for the republican party, CNN is now becoming FOX news lite... most likely this comment will not be post CNN don't like criticism .
It wasn't partcularly important before the presidential debabte, not important now...possibly intertaining....possibly
The vice presidential debate is very important in this election, Romney's policy's are still murky and Americans are hoping that the candidates will critique each other with the same scrutiny that is deserved of a president.
it matters in the sense that nothing new will be said, nothing important will change, and joe biden will say some stupid things. come on people the only thing that really matters I guess is guns, gays, and abortions. Get a grip
Not much. In spite of Obama's performance I still like him and can hardly imagine what would change my mind. He's done a lot for this country and he didn't claim any of his successes during the debate.
Jack, a better question would be "What does it mean when the President has to rely on the performance of his Vice President to save his reelection hopes?"
I feel that vice presidential debates are not as widely viewed but this is going to be a heated debate. It could mean more in this race, if Ryan comes out on the offensive again forcing Biden to defend the Obama administrations record it is a possibility that voters in Ryan's native Wisconsin could get excited and could steal that state away which would be devastating to the Obama/Biden ticket
I do not think debates change the electorate's decision. The swings we see are temporary and can change any minute.
Although J. Biden was lately particularly goofy, I think he is not a bad debater at all, he can be actually better than Obama.
I do not know what vitamins they gave Mr. Romney, but Obama was absolutely absent, maybe it was the effect of Eastwood's chair mxxumba. Hope that Biden will use his known strong character which he already used against S. Palin.
In terms of age (somebody mentioned his age) he is just 5 years older than Romney and has some lifting less (the ridiculous power of the money.)
Everyone thought Obama should have won – before the debate. Romney's strong debate vs Obama's week one pumps this V.P. debate up ...way up. This is Ryan's chance to add a nail to the coffin – or Biden's chance to really make voters think that the Obama-Biden ticket's the best.
I do not see the results as a game changer. Ryan is like the cherry on the sundae, just a small part of a great dessert.
All the Obama/Biden team can come up with is jokes about our economy and their opponents and the voter can
see right thru it.
The vp debate is not that important. Kind of like hearing two back up quarterbacks debating about how they would win the game. Anyway Biden is a clown and Ryan is a budget wonk.
Paul in Raleigh, NC
The audience always likes the underdog, and after Romney's big win last week, that means Biden has the advantage. That being said, there is a reason it isn't Biden vs. Ryan for the top spot.
With the victory laps that the Republicans have taken after the Presidential Debate, Joe Biden has the weight of the free world on his shoulders. It feels like he has the fate of Social Security and Medicare in the palms of his hands. We all know Romney and Ryan will need to recover the tax breaks they hand out from somewhere. Their target is painted with a big SS. The poor economy created by the Bush years will help Republicans obtain their life long dream of doing away with SS and Medicare. Come on Joe, we're counting on you to expose how they will make their math work.
It is incredulous that our presidential candidates are using big-bird as they talking points as well as negative ads lately, instead of focusing on the key issues to rebuild our beloved country. Romney was using PBS and big-bird as an example of spending money that we borrow from China, then the comment has been widely exploited. I wonder if the vice presidential candidates will be doing any better on coming Thursday???
The vice president debate is just if not more important than the presidential debate because both Romney and Ryan have no foreign affairs experience and we don't know what their policy is on domestic affairs.
I think it will be somewhat important in terms of continuing Romney's comeback "wave" that will be talked about by the media in the following days, but the next potential game changer will be the next presidential debate. Whoever wins that, will have the momentum that will determine how the scales will be tipped. The ball is in the president's court now, and he has to perform up to par if he wants to be reelected.
There is not much time left before the election or even the next presidential debate. So it is critically important for Biden to bring out the truth from the Republican ticket now: will Romney keep saying "a lie of the day" until the election to please anyone and everyone to get their vote? Does Paul Ryan go along with it? Most importantly, if Ryan was that adamant about deficit reduction, how will he accept Romney's plans which right now echoes whatever Obama says!
I think Joe should take a page from .Reagans debate with Mondale and say, I won't hold your youth or inexperience against you.
I think it is VERY important! Obama losing the first debate so badly and his losing the messaging & PR war on it so badly right now it the polls in my opinion makes the VP debate about as important as game 2 in a best of 5 Baseball or basketball series. Biden has to win to possibly even the score. A draw still leaves Romney ahead but it coming down to the last two debates, and fair or unfair, I think it is probably "game over" for Obama if Biden is seen as losing his debate to a much younger Paul Ryan short of some miracle happening in Obama's favor. That is my honest analysis.
using Joey Bidens other GR8 quality besides speaking i'll use Joey's math and counting ability which Big Bird apparently did not teach him. Jack it comes down to 3 words, "Biden sinks Obama's Ship."
Come on Jack, Vice Presidents...does it really matter? Wasn't Dan Quayle one of those?
This debate is "Must See TV." What will also be most interesting after Biden and Ryan trade jabs, will be the Spin Room. I suspect that the people most worried about a possible Obama loss are Plouffe, Axelrod,Gibbs,Messina, Jarett
and Cutter. After all they have been riding a pretty nice Gravy Train of perks. For four years they have managed to filter the American people from seeing the true president Obama. They have done the talk shows, the press conferences and other interviews. When the time came for President Obama to go before the American people without his gate keepers and his teleprompter, he failed miserably.
Mr. President, you need to dump most of the aforementioned gatekeepers as they have lost their credibility with the Amwerican people, and you need to talk to us directly and without pie in the sky words.
Your gatekeepers with their ridiclue and attack attitude doesn't cut it anymore.
i'm picturing my tax man from H&R Block going up against an elder statesman who would be legitimate choice for President of the United States....should be interesting!
The Vice Presidential debate is very important because Democrats need to start reminding voters where we were 4 years ago and what has been accomplished since then and where we are going from here. Joe needs to do what he does best and what Obama forgot how to do....TALK, ENGAGE YOUR OPONENT, take the fight to their policies and plans. As long as Ryan follows the rules unlike Mitt and not bring notes to slide out of his pocket to the podium it should be a debate to remember.
If Biden is determined to dispel Romneys' myths and Ryans record it should turn out well for the dems.
Contrary to all the hype–I was NOT impressed by Mr.Romney in the first debate....Like a used car salesman, he would say ANYTHING to close the deal and once again shifted his positions.....Mr. Ryan has his own fuzzy relationship with the truth and his Beaver Cleaver routine gets old pretty fast. I happen to adore Mr. Biden because he is NOT politically correct. He is honest and sometimes blunt.....With all the double speak we usually get–he is a breath of fresh air. Never underestimate Joe...........He says what he means and doesn't tolerate fools......Hope Mr. ryan remembers that.
Jack, we all are missing the big picture. Obama knew what he was doing at the first debate. He knew no matter what was said that mainstream media would do what they always do, use talking points and pundits. Now Romney is happy as a lark saying blurting out lots of things because he "thought" he won a debate when Obama strategically kept low key. Now Joe Biden will pick the scab, force Ryan to lose his temper and set the stage for Obama call Romney to the carpet at the next debate. As they say, "a fish can never be caught with a hook if it keeps it's mouth shut". I bet Obama is smiling ear to ear as Romney as predicted has swallowed hook, line and sinker!
Not important at all. In fact, neither are presidential debates, except for media. However, right now Mitt Romney is singing the praises of debates.
Yes, it is important. Let's wait until after the debate and see whaich one makes a mistake. I have already voted but am still going to cheer on VP Biden. I think he will make a very much better person to stand up for the Senior Citizen than the other choice. Ryan isn't for the Senior people that need Social Security to survive. We can't make it without Social Security and Medicare with NO voutchers.
Depends on what you are looking for, I am not looking for entertainment value as many people are.....Romney lied unabaited during the first debate......so I would hope that Biden/Ryan stick to the facts.....
Somewhat important in my opinion....if Biden comes out swinging and Ryan retreats, pauses or comes off as "evasive" his experience and collective ailities will come into question. (Advantage Democrats). If Ryan can counter him with facts in regard to the current administrations performance to this point, (and trigger Biden's overly aggressive disposition when cornered), game set and match for the Republicans.
Either way, I will compliment Obama and Little Joe on becoming as much like their Eternal Idol (Bill Clinton) as they can possibly be. You can tell when all three are lying....their mouths will be open!
I do not know which scares me more.... What this administration can come up with, or the number of "sheep" across this nation that will believe it.
Please, please let the country see Ryan for what he is. His ultra-conservative, tea party thinking needs to be exposed. He is not a friend to women, minorities and especially gays. Totally not with the changing times. Just think he gave his daughter a rifle for her birthday......what was this man thinking.
Jack, The debates are more about perception, than reality—and Obama/Biden are in a dog fight with a junkyard dog—so yes, the debate Thursday is very important! Jim Green
Don't you think the issue of Romney and Big Bird is perfectly symbolic of his (and certainly Ryan's) determination to squash the more innocent, defenseless, and needy in America, if not wherever they can have their tentacles reach in the world ? Not to mention those most needing help in our society, like the poor, elderly, and disabled. I pray we see through their shamelessly disguised, dusgusting scam. This swindle and con is truly very frightening, highly virulent, bloodthirsty, and unchristia. Please Joe Biden expose this bloodthirsty scam, and help make it boundlessly clear for us, and the world to see. And may President Obama continue to do so, as he always has. Thank you so much, Vice-President Biden, President Obama; and Jack, for allowing our opinions to be heard. Martin, Port Chester, NY
Normally, I don't think vice presidential debates matter much but in this race, especially after the President's lackluster debate performance, it will mean a lot.Actually, I think Romney may have done the President a favor by inadvertently giving him a political back-of-the-head smack to WAKE UP! Obama & his team seem to have gotten a little too complacent by all the good poll numbers. Joe Biden just needs to go into the debate AWAKE and clearly show the difference between Romney/Ryan and Obama/Biden. He needs to be careful to not be too overly aggressive as a way of compensating for the President's poor debate. Although to be fair, all Romney had to worry about is to rehearse for the debate all day/every day while the President had other things to contend with and worry about like...well, BEING PRESIDENT!
Probably not that important, but future debates probably should be more spirited than the first one was, whether it's the Presidential or Vice-Presidential candidates involved.
Joe Biden should show his age, experience, loyalty and excellence playing very decisive roll in the coming debate. He has all caliber to show his lion image but a million dollar question, whether he will do it? He should not take any chance to wait for his chance to hammer the base of Romney but immediately starting with he should raised the issue of 47%, tax cuts to 2%, deficit, economy, unemployment, healthcare, medicare, social security, Iraq-Afghanistan war, death of Bin Laden and real pain of the middle class. If he failed to raise these issues forcefully and allow Ryan to lecture him like Romney, the election will surely drifted to the other side.
We'll find out if Ryan and Romney tell the same lies, or will it be a new batch/
"Yes I have a 22inch computer screen on you too, Jack! Slugger Ryan knows how to box his opponent into a corner, so I don't think he'l have too much trouble. He just need to stick to his composition, and leave Biden to miscalculate whats coming next!"
Biden is the gift that keeps on giving...every time he opens his mouth people laugh. Ryan is expected to bury him in the debate.
I already voted – Obama, but Biden and Obama learn to speak "bumper sticker" style – people just can't comprehend more than that – most are too busy to even vote.
This debate is very important. If Joe Biden can get through it without dropping an F-Bomb, he will make Eddie Munster look like the medicare stealing, spreasdheet weilding angry white tea party male that he is. After a year of watching Romney falter, flip flop and pander, are we that easily fooled by one performance for 90 minutes?
In the grand scheme of things, not that important. VP debates and VPs are not that important, unless something happens to the president. This debate will just be another nail in the Obama/Biden coffin. Our current president and VP are outclassed on so many levels by the GOP counterparts. If the American people were better informed and the entlitlement crowd were not bought and paid for by the Democratic party, it would be a 50 state landslide.
Debates should be without notes or words written on a snot rag. If they can't tell us what they stand for in their own words then drop. They are only saying what someone wrote down for them. I am for the two who will keep my Social Security and Medicare going, as I am in great need for it.
Jack, I agree with royscrambles. This is what I have said from the beginning. Mr. Biden is coming out and setting the stage for the next Presidental debate.
I think Ryan will handle the situation "spot-on". I just can't see another 4 yrs. of this administration's out of control spending. We don't have a tax problem, it's the spending that is killing economic growth. The private sector is better at creating jobs and growth than the federal government. But hey, you can't tell a bunch of socialist that.
The country looks at Biden as a cartoon character, so no one will take this seriously.
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