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If Obamacare falls, what's next?
April 2nd, 2012
03:55 PM ET

If Obamacare falls, what's next?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

The fate of the Affordable Care Act now lies in the hands of the U.S. Supreme Court.

Although no one knows for sure which way the landmark case will go, last week's oral arguments did not seem promising for the Obama administration. Experts said they believe the individual mandate - and perhaps the whole health care law - is in jeopardy.

Supporters tell Politico that if the law goes down there could be significant ripple effects. They say that other federal laws could be on the firing line - including environmental one such as the Endangered Species and Clean Water acts as well as federal regulation of the labor market and laws preventing employment discrimination.

But opponents of the health care overhaul say liberals are just using "the sky is falling"-scare tactics.

Plus, they suggest if the Supreme Court upholds the individual mandate that could lead to future mandates, such as requirements to buy health food or gym memberships.

The Supreme Court decision is expected in June. And whichever way the court rules, there's no doubt it will be a political lightning rod for both parties coming just a few months before the presidential election.

Meanwhile, as Americans wait for the Supreme Court to decide, health care costs just keep going up.

It's estimated the cost to cover the typical family of four under an employer plan will top $20,000 this year, according to CNNMoney. That's up 7% from last year and would be the fifth year in a row health care costs rose 7% or 8%.

And even though employers pick up much of that tab, you can bet they're passing on their rising costs to the rest of us.

Here’s my question to you: If Obamacare falls, what's next?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Ralph in Orange Park, Florida:
If Obamacare falls, the Republicans in Congress will propose nothing to replace it because they have no constituency among those too poor to pay for health care. When/if the Democrats regain a majority in both houses of Congress, they can try again, only make it simpler this time.

L.:
The court may declare mandatory enrollment unconstitutional, but Congress has an obligation to then spend every minute reworking this bill to help all Americans get coverage. An unhealthy citizenship does not make for a strong nation. And the more we allow insurance companies raise rates, it will only get worse.

Tina in Wisconsin:
We'll have killed what should have been bipartisan middle ground. The mandate in question was a Republican ideal for 15 years until a Democrat agreed. Our health care has become nothing more then another piece of political gaming.

Martha in Pennsylvania:
We can only hope that there will be some common sense approach to providing health care for ALL Americans, such as the systems adopted in other developed countries. Otherwise, the only people with access to medical care will be those who either qualify for Medicaid, or who have lots of money.

Mack in Michigan:
I guess we’ll have to learn to live with what ails us. Or if we are really bad sick, get a gun, shoot holes in the ceiling of the nearest 7-11 and wait to be arrested. The government will provide health care for convicted felons. Hard-working people who've been fortunate enough to reach middle age… Not so much.

soundoff (245 Responses)
  1. Max Brooks from Florida

    Jack, the optimistic side of me hopes that the National Defense Authorization Act, the Patriot Act and drug prohibition would all follow suit but then I remember that I'm in America, and double ply toilet paper is currently more valuable than our Constitution.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
  2. Michael Bindner, Alexandria VA

    First, its not going to fall. Monday's argument was about delaying all proceedings having to do with the mandate on taxing power, not whether the taxing power is sufficient for a mandate to be constitutional. It is and the United States said so in the last 60 seconds of Tuesday's argument. Assuming the worst for a second, however, there is no justification for scratching the Medicare and Medicaid changes, including the taxes, so repeal of the whole act would be seen as entirely partisan, which is good for the Democrats. Partial repeal would be cold comfort for the GOP, as their real problem was not mandates, but the new taxation on non-wage income – which hits their donors hard. Repealing this tax puts Medicare at extreme risk (more than now) and would be seen very negatively by financial markets – so much so that even the GOP could not resist higher taxes on the wealthy and/or introduction of consumption taxes.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
  3. ImALibertarian

    It would be too much to hope for a congress, a president and a supreme court that began to respect the constitution.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
  4. cathy in illinois

    Probabaly nothing – none at least for the ones who need the care-me- I'll move to Canada or France- people are going to pay one way or another and I would rather pay upfront- at least I 'll know I'd get god care.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:16 pm |
  5. Kenneth in California

    We who don't give a hoot about their neighbors suffering, and dying without medical insurance, frankly don't care what is next if it fails. Like Obama said you are on your own. What a great Christian nation we be.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
  6. calaurore9

    Higher healthcare costs for the few left covered. Extremely crowded ER's.

    Carol in Northampton MA

    April 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  7. Mack from Michigan

    Those of us who weren't clever enough to be born wealthy will have to go on Boehner/McConnel care. That is learn to live with what ails us. or if we are really bad sick, get a gun, shoot holes in the ceiling of the nearest 7-11 and wait to be arrested. The government will provide health care for convicted felons, hard working people who've been fortunate enough to reach middle age. Not so much.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  8. Martha Brooks

    We can only hope that there will be some commonsense approach to providing health care for ALL Americans, such as the systems adopted in other developed (and some not so developed) countries. Otherwise, the only people with access to medical care will be those who either qualify for Medicaid, or who have lots of scratch.

    Martha, Rew, PA

    April 2, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
  9. Larry, RI

    Nothing! The Democrats won't touch it again too soon, and the Republicans seem to like things just the way they were!!!

    April 2, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
  10. s in fl

    Single payer, Jack. Which is the only thing that will work. Period.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
  11. Jim, Denver CO

    Jack,
    I kiss my insurance goodbye. That's what is next for me.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
  12. MNResident

    The rational thing to do would be to have everyone sit down, find the items in health care reformthat have REAL bi-partisan agreement to fix (and that pass constitutional muster) and develop a simpler bill that is easier to understand. However, given that this is an election year, I expect demagoguery, lies, strong arm tactics, and everything else EXCEPT rational discussion......

    April 2, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
  13. ken from connecticut

    Obamacare, I hope does not go through, its bad for our country. Just because its a plan and this country needs one, doesn't make this good. It isn't. But we can't say it fails because there is victory in failure. It will lead to a plan that is good for Americans and good for all of us. Obamacare is but a step and a process that will lead to a healthcare plan that the world will look upon and say, " I wish we did that" !

    April 2, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  14. Brad, Portland, OR

    If the Affordable Care Act is struck down entirely by an activist Supreme Court, ignoring all precedents, then the current broken system becomes owned entirely by the Republicans.

    Like James Carville said, when people complain about unaffordable premiums, medical services not covered by their plans, or not being able to get coverage at all due to pre-existing conditions, Democrats can say, "Talk to the Republicans. We tried to fix it, but this is the system they fought to protect."

    April 2, 2012 at 1:48 pm |
  15. Paul, Parry Sound, Ontario

    Move to Canada. In six months you'll have full medical coverage.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
  16. Doug Ericson

    The public option I hope. If other coutries can do it we should be able to too. Oy, now I'm afraid I wrote one too many to's. I should have stayed awake longer in 6th grade English class. Can you write two to's in a row? I can't write two comments in a row because I lose my concentration after writing the first one. Then this happens. Oh well, at least I got it in before four. Doug, Pepperell, MA.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
  17. jk in MN

    I HOPE a single payer – Non-Profit Healthcare system. Might as well dream big.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
  18. ken, atlantic city, nj

    Romneycare was first so why not make it voluntary for each state. Also if congress changes the reagan law which mandates that hospitals treat illegals for free maybe health care costs would come down for the people who have to pay for themselves as well as the illegals.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
  19. Bill of New Mexico

    The Democrats are too hooked to learn from their mistakes anyway.

    It will be at least 2017 before the Democrats will have control of both houses and the presidency. Health care will be a much tougher problem then.

    There is a remote chance that the Republicans will have control of both houses and the presidency in 2013. But, the Republicans have proven uninterested in health care.

    The debt is the gorilla in in the room. Heath care has been blown.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
  20. Herman Portland OR

    I think that a bi partisan reforms are in order. If the Health Care Act is struck down both sides may be able to pass reforms that truly drive down the excessive costs of Health Care. It is a shame that so much effort on partisan lines was put towards jamming this poor law through Congress. The reason it may be struck down is because so many states are disgusted with the new law. If it truly was a good law there would be very little objection.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:56 pm |
  21. Ray E. (Georgia)

    Humm,
    I hear they are making Re-Makes of old Movies in Hollywood. An Omen? Some of those Supreme Judges really have a sense of humor. The Country will survive much better without Obama Care. If business has some certainty the jobs picture may get much better. There is still a safety net when people need some help.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:57 pm |
  22. JD in NH

    There are two choices: Medicare for all or people dying in the streets. If everyone was able to buy into Medicare, it would not only provide affordable coverage for the masses but it would help Medicare by spreading the risk among younger, healthier people. And, of course, the Medicare mandate is already in place.

    April 2, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
  23. Gary - Woodhaven, Michigan

    I believe Harry Truman was the first president to campaign on health care reform, and every president since has done so also.

    What's next if Obama's health care collapses? 64 more years of ridiculous absolute ideologies, and the fat insurance cat getting fatter. It seems the more we try to change, the morons in charge keep it the same.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
  24. Bizz, Quarryville Pennsylvania

    For your answer Jack I think you will have to go to the Republicans, because healthcare will have fallen in their laps. I don't think the future looks good if Obama care fails. The first thing we will see is people being refused health insurance because of pre-existing conditions. More and more people will not be able to afford health care and eventually the only people that will have it will be the wealthy like Dick Cheney. It has already come out that one of the criteria that Cheney meant for his heart transplant was he had good health insurance and money to pay for his operation. If Obama care fails I am afraid we would have taken another big step forward to being a nation of only two classes, rich and poor.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
  25. James - Alexandria, VA

    If the health care bills falls in the Supreme Court then rates will skyrocket and those who were covered under the plan will lose access to the care they need. That is the sad truth. On the flip side the GOP and the Supreme Court justices that threw it out will have to explain themsleves to the public on why they kicked it to the curb. If the court and GOP were smart, we all know the GOP is not smart nowadays, they would just toss out the individual mandate leave the rest of it in place and not become the death panel of the United States......unless that is what THEY want.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
  26. Cliff Glass - Rego Park, New York

    Jack,
    Back to Medicare for all and the devising of a system with 10% surcharges for every 5 years an adult applicant is younger than 65 and an emphasis on preventative health that will cover costs. Private, for profit insurance is fine for homes, cars, motorcycles, and boats, not for a nations' citizenry. Eliminating the obscenity of the current market should be our only priority.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
  27. Loren

    Does something need to be next? Why is there such a rush to tax and spend? Maybe the better route would be to take the time to try to fix Medicare and Medicaid. The real reason that Obamacare was passed was because of the stigma attached to Medeicare and Medicaid, the flaws in those systems have tainted federal health care spending. Fix Medicare and Medicaid and there might not need to be a next.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
  28. Frances

    Our insurance company driven expensive health care system will continue on as usual. Will remain behind our European friends who have universal health care with lower costs and better outcomes. We are far down the scale in infant mortality. The insurance fat cats will continue to give millions to the Republican leadership to vote their way. As well as collecting their million dollar bonuses. We do not need a middle man which is all that the private insurance is. The Republicans will not come up with a better system or any system, for all their talk they never have. Since they have a great health care benefit paid for by the taxpayers they don't see a need for change. Constituents? Who?

    April 2, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
  29. Ralph in Orange Park, FL

    If Obamacare falls, the Republicans in Congress will propose nothing to replace it because they have no constituency among those too poor to pay for healthcare. When/if the Democrats regain a majority in both houses of Congress, they can try again, only make it simpler this time, and not leave single payer off the table for fear of being labelled socialist.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:14 pm |
  30. Paul - North Carolina

    If Obama-Care falls I guess we'll have to implement the Republican plan. Oh, that's right. They have none. Looks like the insurance companies will continue to make all the rules. Can you say class warfare?

    April 2, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
  31. Karl in Flint, MI

    I guess we will go back to being the same bunch of overcharged and underinsured ignorant morons the GOP and FOX has made us.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:18 pm |
  32. Bert in Los Angeles

    Hi Jack, President Kennedy warned, “If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.” If this Court is so stupid to say in this case government cannot tell citizens to give up some of their money to promote their health and the health of America, but in another case say citizens must give up their homes for money to promote the wealth of Walmart to build another superstore, then we are on the verge of revolution!

    April 2, 2012 at 2:19 pm |
  33. elaine tretter

    I am emailing as many reporters/media/judges, etc that I can for an answer. I am a very healthy 68 yr.old who takes no medications(thank goodness). Yet under Medicare Part D (Medicare & You; pages 78 & 79) when I turned 65 I was required in fact it says MUST PURCHASE a prescription drug plan or FACE A PENALTY. How is this different than what is being discussed by the supreme court? If the Affordable Care Act fails because if is a mandate, will Part D also be deemed unconstiutional? Why is it okay for seniors to be mandated but not everyone else? Are seniors being discriminated? I think this is very important and as yet I have not heard even one mention of it. I would like an answer

    April 2, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
  34. Jackie - FL

    If it fails, I will continue to get some care at the ER at taxpayers expense.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:25 pm |
  35. Alex

    What's next is what CNN contributor and Democratic spinner-extraordinaire James Carvell gleefully predicts: Republicans will begin desperately spinning out explanations of why they killed Obamacare, leading in a happy twist of poetic justice to their own demise come November. Bottom-line: the people, as always, are being spun to death.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm |
  36. Mel - Houston

    The single payer version in 2013. Roll out time frame should be immediate.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
  37. riley oday

    Nationalize oil and insurance companies. They control congress anyway.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
  38. diridi

    Entire this nation is doomed. SC gets spits from world, and this nation. Show me single thing that is not worth in Law. Broccoli analogy is idiotic. Health Care Law needs to be upheld. Until or unless judges are bunch of idiots. o.k, There is nothing unconstitutional about it. Car insurance, Fica, property tax are all mandates...o.k, Public good it is passed.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
  39. Steve, Clifton, Virginia

    If Obamacare fails, either fully or in part,, the next question/issue will be what will replace it and how soon. Anyone can criticize and condemn and complain. What the country needs is constructive and comprehensive reform to America's health care system which is compassionate yet cost efficient and effective.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:39 pm |
  40. Phyllis G. Williams

    If Obamacare falls, what's next?

    Lack of respect for Presidents' signatures.
    Hope that present benefits children are receiving on
    parents' medical benefits, etc. will be allowed to
    remain.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:41 pm |
  41. CW from Irondale

    We need more than Obamacare, Jack. We need full-on Socialized Medicine like most civilized countries have. Instead, we don't even have control over the exorbitant prices doctors, dentists, pharmaceutical companies and hospitals charge. The so-called richest country in the world doesn't provide medical care for its population. I don't personally know anyone who can afford to get sick in this country - and that includes me. I heard of one doctor in the community who is retiring at the age of 50 because his hospital requires that he spend a few hours a week treating Veterans and that he also treat Medicare patients. How's that for a wasted education?

    April 2, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  42. Russ in PA

    More nonsense from politicians from both parties, obviously. Neither party believes in a free market system, otherwise Ron Paul wouldn't be the only person with both feet on the ground. But, hey, the rest of the political bunch are sure going to give you reform, good and hard...

    Ron Paul in 2012...

    April 2, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
  43. Tom (Atlanta)

    Jack, there is no question on both sides of the isle that health care reform was needed badly. But, it is unfornate that the then majority and President let power go to their heads and dictated a solution. That would be fine if the dictators had it right, but they didn't and now we all suffer for their mistake in governing. There is a reason our founding fathers created a system of checks and balances, and this is prime example of the system being out of balance. What we should do? Start over and this time work do it right. Do it together. It won't be easy. The my way or the highway approach of this administration has very much polarized the system. It was an unfortunate and natural outcome of the back room approach taken. In June it is likely the Supreme Court will force a restart which will be aggod thing. Come on people, lets get it right this time before we're all to sick to care or too broke to do anything but tool over a die.

    April 2, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
  44. Jim

    Jack, I have spent the better part of my life pulling for women, Roe v Wade, Title 9, Womans Healthcare etc. If women in mass don't get up and fight for these hard won Rights, they will get what the Male 5 Males on the US Supreme Court dishe out, "walking three steps behind, pregnant and "down on the farm".
    Jim Los Angeles

    April 2, 2012 at 2:56 pm |
  45. allen in Houston

    Not sure what is meant by what is next ? Who next , When next , How Next , Why Next? There is no next ! First Obamacare must totally be killed this has not happened yet . Secondly the GOP is only in the fight for Obamacare, nothing else. There is a good chance part of it will survive. Each issue is completely different , to even think another battle looms is rediculous .

    April 2, 2012 at 2:58 pm |
  46. Wanda Diaz

    Whats's next is what should have been first..............Let people buy their insurance from whomever offers them the best deals from any state they wish. If you cannot afford insurance there are plenty of Health Departments that offer services at reduced or no cost. I was taught Nothing is Free and I live my life that way. Free only makes a society of Freeloaders and entitlement seekers. Wanda from Guyton, Georgia

    April 2, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
  47. bonnie from NJ

    What's next, nothing. The republicans are saying "repeal and replace", what they mean is repeal and screw everybody who can't afford health care. We don't care if you have cancer or some other catastrophic illness or injury, go bankrupt. One of our 1% can then buy your house for nothing when they foreclose. I am praying that Obama gets reelected because having the republicans put another supreme court judge in scares the hell out me.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:01 pm |
  48. Mark in Oklahoma City, OK

    Jack, I am so disgusted with the outrageous cost of medicine and medical care that if I could, I would FLUSH the last 300 years worth of medical advancements down the proverbial toilet just so we would all be on an equal playing field. You get sick, you rest and try to eat well and good luck to you. We wouldn't live as long, but we wouldn't be charged ten bucks for a single pill or $1,500 bucks for a day while in intensive care! The whole system just makes me ILL!!!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
  49. Ram Riva

    Don't know Jack...you should ask the seniors and the more than 50 million americans who will be left out without Health Insurance....

    April 2, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
  50. Annie, Atlanta

    Third world status or less for us, as in US. We're the only industrialized nation that has to battle for the right to be treated with civility, humanity, and common decency. To some of our elected representatives our life isn't worth a plug nickel. Doesn't say much about us, does it? When did it become ok for for-profit health care, where profits trump the human patient? It's obscene.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
  51. TomInRochNY

    What's next is what should be next, single payer. Does anyone seriously believe we can lower costs in a for-profit industry? There is no incentive for insurance companies to reduce costs, just expenses, like paying claims. Those on Medicare don't seem to be complaining too much about their program. Many people say Medicare is unsustainable. Yes, it is, if we continue with a for-profit model. If we go single payer and take the for-profit out of it, it becomes very sustainable. The only ones not being sustained by single payer are insurance executives and those whose campaign funds they donate to.

    Tom, Rochester, NY

    April 2, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
  52. John from Alabama

    Jack: If the Affordable Health Care Act is struck down it would mean the following; All 19 to 26 year olds would not be allowed on their parents health coverage; Pre-existing conditions would stop people from having any type of coverage; Insurance companies could put limits on coverage, such as, $ 1 million dollars per person; health insurance companies could cancel coverage without any treason or notice; and insurance rates would go up because of all the people going the emergency rooms. The law is good. It is a good start. Let it alone, Supreme Court.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:12 pm |
  53. andy Lynn, MA

    If Obamacare is struck down by the Supreme Court it will bw the harbinger of the death of individual freedom and the American. What it will show is that big money can not only buy elections but also the United States Supreme Court. Could ut be that we are witnessing the last days of freedom in America?

    April 2, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
  54. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    Hi Jack. It really should be when it fails as the Conservative court will stand by their party as usual. Cost will contiune to go up until people stop buying it so the insurance companies will take advantage of profits galore, just like oil companies.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
  55. Pete in Georgia

    Assuming this is a serious question, you could give the average American 8th grade classroom a project to create an all-new American Health Care System and they would do it in 30 days ...................with far more common sense, logic, fairness, and success.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
  56. Gary in San Jose, California

    This movie will have many sequels. Healthcare affects all of us, represents about 20% of GDP and Federal spending, and has many opposing factions. The lobbyists and politicians will make a mockery of this important issue for many years because of one fundamental flaw in our society. We view a sick person as a customer instead of a patient.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  57. Ted

    EVERYONE should have the same health care,from the president down to the bum sleeping in the gutter. NO exceptions. That is what the president said when he was running for the office... WHAT HAPPENED...

    April 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  58. Mr. D

    One thing you can be sure of, medical costs will not fall with or without Obamacare. We are probably heading down the road towards 'Noncare."

    April 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  59. Ed from Texas

    I guess you will have to ask the Republicans. What will they replace ObamaCare with?

    April 2, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
  60. allen from Houston

    Obamacare falling is a surprise to both Liberals and Conservatives and it has not fallen yet. But after listening to 6 hours of Oral arguments I can clearly tell you David Virrillie was out classed . Paul Clement did the job he was sent to do , David did not . There is not other issue on the table this large for the near future and will not be for a very long time . This issue clearly defines who Barrack Obama is , if Obamacare goes down in flames , it will be very hard to get Obama elected a second term. At least past 50% of the vote . Have you ever seen a President spend three years on such a giant issue to get it possibly killed in court ? It is not over yet because the ruling has not been released .

    April 2, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
  61. Lisa fronm Long Island

    you know Jack, I'm an insurance broker. I sell auto insurance among others. When you buy an auto policy the insurer has a 30 to 60 day 'discovery' period where it gets to pick apart your application and decide whether or not to insure you. If you 'pass' you get pay the rest of your premium and if you have an accident you are covered.

    If the health reform law is overturned what happens? Well it seems to me that health insurers will go right back to taking your money for your premium payments until the day you get really sick. AT THAT TIME, they will resume the right to pick apart your application and decide whether they have to pay for your medical care or whether they can get themselves out of paying.

    our cars will once again get a better deal than our bodies.

    Buts its all the babies, Jack. Our babies that are born sick. Who will care for them when insurance carriers can simply call them born with "pre existing conditions" and refuse to cover their needs. Its the babies that are breaking my heart.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
  62. Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia

    Jack: If it passes--who is going to pay for this? If it fails-the cost of healthcare is still going to rise--all in all--if you want healthcare--someone is still going to have to "pay to play." It is question with no definitive answer--my advice--continue to play the lottery!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
  63. Nick @ Mammoth Lakes, CA

    If the Supreme Court strikes down ObamaCare, then it means that this country is no longer able to pulll together to solve critical problems that affect us all (well, everybody but the uber-rich). The Supreme Court's view that we should all go back to 1787 is warped. The conservative republicans care only about letting government off the hook and giving more and more tax breaks to the wealthy. At least ObamaCare directly addresses cost savings while preserving our goal of affordable care for everyone. Republican's false refrain of 'let the markets work'... How has that worked with healthcare costs so far?

    April 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
  64. Dave, Orlando, FL

    The five clowns are members of the party of “no.” So it is not a matter of if, but when they make their decision of “no,” we will have to have another go at it. Except that this time we need to get that public option included. Then there would be no trumped up phony “fairness” issues. But the Democrats will have to do it entirely by themselves (HA) as no so-called Republican would ever go for anything in the interests of the middle class. So this will just be another nail in or collective coffin.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
  65. Virginia - Atlanta

    If it fails, we are doomed to hearing the ignorant rave, the economy fail, we will lose our right to choose our own doctor, because insurance companies already do choose for you and often interfere with the prescriptions your doctor wants you to have. The uninsured will still go to Emergency Rooms where they cannot be turned down and the taxpayers pay their bill. Obamacare will not interfere with our doctors or the doctors' decisions, there will not be uninsured for the tax payers to pay for, because everyone will be able to see his/her doctor he/she chooses We will all be richer, healthier in a healthy economy, and not bitter about paying for other peoples' healthcare.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
  66. Tom

    Our country needs an improved affordable healthcare delivery program. Both Republicans and Democrats have put forth proposals for affordable healthcare over the past 40 years and some reason we can't find a way to work that out. If the affordable healthcare is deemed unconstitutional. We will all be in a boat load of trouble. Healthcare costs will go through the roof, then none of us will be able to afford it. We need to find a way to tweak what we have

    April 2, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
  67. Steven Bradley

    Jman,
    Mandatory military service for all. Most of the young folks could use the discipline and excercise anyways. My medical records have been data-based since 92. Can't say they (VA) is the greatest but it's better than insurance company chicanery.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm |
  68. Dan in Albuquerque

    Jack, both sides use extreme arguments in controversies like this. I believe nothing will happen until after the election. But a turnover of the best thing to happen to healthcare in decades will energize Democrat voters and they will vote out many of the most extreme right wingers. Then, the move to the best and final answer: a one-payer system.. Call it socialism or anything elseyou want, but we are the only developed nation that doesn't have it, and we are failing while their healthcare systems generally work.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
  69. Peter (Langley B.C.)

    I honestly feel sad Americans think government healthcare is so bad. You are already paying for other peoples care when uninsured go to emergency or have to go bankrupt. When these hospitals don't get that income, you the taxpayer pick the tab. It would be a lot better to have some sort of oversight.

    April 2, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
  70. Noel Sivertson New Mexico

    It means misery, suffering, and even death are next for the least of us. Even if your life is saved in an emergency room you leave the hospital with a prescription you can't afford to fill and instructions to see your primary care physician which you don't have and can't get because you have no money.

    This conservative tea-party idea that healthcare is a luxury available only to those who can afford health insurance puts us at the end of line on a list of civilized nations. Ain't being a Christian country great?

    April 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
  71. Adam - Florida

    We will be in the same place as we were before the law was enacted. Costs will keep increasing. People will be denied coverage and we will all keep paying the price for those of us who must be treated without insurance. My only wish about this law is that it not be so complicated and long. If they could make a plan english version that is less than 100 pages then maybe people will actually understand what it does

    April 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
  72. Wilhelm von Nord Bach - Las Vegas

    what's next, Jack?

    back to the "good old days" of Insurance companies dropping people when they get sick (after paying premiums for years), denying coverage for "pre-existing conditions" (like being born), and raking off 50% of premiums to pay their executives multi-million dollar compensation instead of paying claims.

    this whole mess is the best argument for "Medicare for All" that I have seen.

    OOPS!!! I FORGOT!!! the Republicans want to GET RID of Medicare TOO!!!

    April 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
  73. Jim Charlotte NC

    How about Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamps, Welfare, 40 Hour work week, Unions, Safety Regulations and anything else that hinders the U.S. businessman from making huge profits. With Apple paying Chinese workers less than $1.25 an hour when you figure $360 per month for a 60 hour work week just how far will Republicans go when they take over to get American companies back here.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:02 pm |
  74. Dan from Vacaville Ca

    If it falls we will be back where we started but with a lot less cost. This law reaches all areas of our economy in a negative way. We will have to deal with health care costs by dealing with private insurances being able to sell across state laws and by getting a handle on TORT Laws which dramatically raise healthcare costs.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
  75. bud rupert

    For me – I say – vous voyez à Paris (see you in Paris) Jack. Great food! beautiufl women! Where people work to live, not live to work and oh yes. The best health care system on the planet.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  76. RickFromDetroit

    The next Great Depression. Health Care costs are eating up to much consumer spending and it will drain the economy. Do the math: [1] housing, [2] transportation, [3] food & clothing, [4] insurances, [5] health care.
    [A] Median Household income is $49,500 a year. [B] 46 million Americans below poverty. [C] 97 million Americans are low income. [D] Wall Street is in record territory for the wealthy. What is left to stimulate the economy?

    April 2, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  77. Gail, Plano TX.

    Actually, Jack, nothing. A big fat nothing. Republicans do not want a man of color telling them what to do. Oh they can mandate abortion restrictions, control gun laws, tell u what contraception to use, but health care for all? No freaking way! The Supreme Court is no better than Congress. They are as bought as our elected representatives are. Of course, they all have health insurance. While the multitudes suffer!

    April 2, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  78. Michael, from Smiths, Alabama

    To say healthcare in America is doomed, is an understatement. It won't be long before people who have been able to rely on this law for legitimate medical reasons will start dying, while the government turns a blind eye. The individual mandate aspect can be redone or done away with without destroying the entire law, but the Republicans are only interested in their healthy, fat-cat, rich friends and not the general population.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
  79. deborah ballweg Seibert, co

    The EPA is out of control and needs to be reined in. Dept of Education is out of control. How dare they mandate what kids eat at school? The labor board is out of control when they mandate where a business can build a factory. Need I say more????? Our government is becoming oppresive and unless we take steps to gain control, it will run us into the ground.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:16 pm |
  80. Jake in Omaha

    If Obamacare falls, what's next?

    Republican care you know that apple a day thing.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:18 pm |
  81. Larry Feierstein-Denver

    Nothing stays the same but change. Nothing happens with court approval or not. Med premiums go up, no matter the outcome. Older people suffer with pre-existing conditions as they do now. Kids dont get coverage. Its an election year, yet the public knows very little about this entire situation.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  82. Jerry from California

    We are all doomed

    April 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
  83. Thinkforyourself, OK

    Hopefully a REPEAL and REPLACEMENT by the NEWLY Elected REPUBLICAN Administration in 2012.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
  84. Craig from Pa.

    Stop paying taxes that fund healthcare and salaries for elected officials...just refuse to do it...coordinate a national effort...they can't lock all of us up.....there are a lot more of us than there are of them...

    April 2, 2012 at 4:26 pm |
  85. dave1

    When obama care (socialized medicine) falls we set communism in this counntry back and the rights of our citzens ahead.Bye comrade obama 2012

    April 2, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
  86. Jay in Illinois

    What is this superficial babble about what law will be declared "unconstitutional" next?

    Rather, it should be what laws do the 5 conservative (aka Republican) judges think will help Republican philosophy and what will they do to make that happen.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  87. Renee, Illinois

    I just can't say this often enough, single payer/public option. It's long past time this country caught up with the developed nations of the world, . . . uh, I mean the other developed nations.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  88. Cole

    What's next is freedom.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:29 pm |
  89. Bob in Pa

    Maybe freedom, self-reliance and the right kind of change.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
  90. AmericanSam

    The rallying crying for Democrats in the decades to come: "Medicare for all!"

    April 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm |
  91. lynnej in nc

    It means that Former Rep. Grayson said was right, "...we'd get sick and die" because the Republicans have no plan to replace it much less will they faithfully compromise with the President to put a decent one (single payer–combining Medicare and Medicaid into one) together.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  92. Gordon from NJ

    While the GOP will giggle with glee if Obama is handed a defeat, the American people will suffer because of their politics of destruction. We signed my son up for "Romneycare" in Massachusetts a few years ago when he first got out of school. We had our choice of private insurance companies for reasonable prices. When he had to have an appendectomy a few months later, he was fully covered. As a nation, we have to be insane not to want this for everyone.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:33 pm |
  93. RobynH

    >> If health law falls, what's next?

    Poor people will die.
    I suppose Republicans will cheer.
    What has happened to my country?

    April 2, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
  94. tom Bulger, Canandaigua, NY

    In this competitive global economy we can no longer afford to spend 17% for a 37th ranking in health care, while Singapore spends less than 4% for a rank of 6th in the world. Single payer national health care is no longer optional. It is economically mandatory. Like it, or hate it, it's just the way it is. Fareed Zakaria did a great piece on the subject. Anyromney could understand it.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
  95. Tim from Phoenix

    Hopefully, the Supreme Court will do the right thing and strike down obamacare. The majority of people don't want the program. It is just another way obama is trying to expand government. We need to fix Medicaid and Social Security first.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
  96. Darrell

    Mandatory car liability insurance will be the next to be declared unconstitutional.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
  97. Annie, Atlanta

    Republicans and their corporate overlords have already picked our bones clean and have moved on to the next big consumer markets in China and India. We just haven't realized yet that our usefulness is over, and that those two entities, the Republicans and their corporate overloads, couldn't care less if we all drop dead.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
  98. Dennis

    Health care fix was as simple as letting Health Insurers compete nationwide, if all could be covered.
    But as usual the Feds try to swat flys with a shotgun.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
  99. JCal

    I suspect healthcare could be re-done without the individual mandate. It would require hard work, less partisan posturing, and a bill that was less complex than the current one. "Read it to find out what's in it" is not a reasonable thing to pass in Congress! Bottom line, it could just spur Congress to do it better this time, and even try to contain health costs as well.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
  100. nita

    What is next is violence like in the sixties. The fact that people are loosing their ability to feed and take care of their families and the hopelessness of having no recourse.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  101. David

    Single payer public option; of course nothing other than the mandate should be at all in question by the supreme court, the bill could stand without the mandate (which was put in to appease insurance companies) – could end up with upset insurance companies but a better overall bill.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  102. James - St Petersburg FL

    What they should have done all along, the single payer system.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  103. George Blackburn

    The individual mandate was and currently is a conservative principle designed and developed by conservative think-tanks, specifically the Heritage Foundation.

    That being said, the Democrats have decided to sleep with the devil, so that they can insure more people in a bipartisan effort, utilizing a conservative methodology.

    But, in true Republican fashion, as soon as a Democrat agrees with them, they automatically disavow the original position. It is just a crass and sad game.

    The one Golden Lining is that maybe the mandate will be struck down. There is basically no chance the Republicans will win the presidency. Obama is a heavy hitting incumbent with the largest war chest in American history. Meanwhile the right-wing establishment is pushing second string Republicans out for the show (although, I think they may have been better served by just forfeiting 2012)

    Happily, we may be able to establish Medicare for Everyone after 2012. Finally, we can solve this ridiculous problem of insurance companies Delaying and Denying claims, pushing sick people around, and driving up the cost of medicine beyond the reach of ordinary Americans.

    Hopefully progressives can drag the South kicking and screaming. After all, they are the poorest and least educated in the union (that is just statistics talking), so they are the primary beneficiaries of the safety nets, generally. I'm not sure why they complain as they bounce on the trampoline of stability provided by progressives, but I'm sure they'll wake up one day.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
  104. Claudia, Houston, Tx

    When people no longer have a vision for the future of America and all it's people then failure is the only option.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm |
  105. L

    Most people think they are getting FREE healthcare. They are NOT. They are getting a law that says they have to buy health insurnance or be fined by the IRS. Is that legal? - Anyway, there is a way to have FREE healthcare for anyone who does not have insurance. Create a new arm of the National Guard – the National Guard of HEALTH. They could operate FREE clinics and hospitals in each state. Offer free basic healthcare and emergency services. The employees would be enlisted personal with government training, just like any other military healthcare worker.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
  106. Dennis Eddlemon

    I think the Washington needs to get out of health care. Tell me, when has the government ever gotten involved with any market and the product got better and the costs have gone down. Never, and it won't happen under Obamacare either. I don't know why people are perpetually fooled by Washington. The story is always the same.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
  107. 4JULY1776

    Everybody has a right to free food, free housing, free dental care, and free medical care paid for courtesy of the U.S. taxpayers.

    It says so right there in the U.S. Constitution........doesn't it?

    April 2, 2012 at 4:45 pm |
  108. John C from Long Island

    Over 30 Western nations have socialized medicine; the mortality rates there are lower, the quality of overall medical care is higher. America spends more per person on medical care than ANY other country in the world, but does not have results anywhere near where they should be. Why? 1 Simple reason- insurance/medical coverage is a for profit business and as in other for profit businesses, the consumer is gouged wherever and whenever they can be. Look at those who are the biggest opponents of the Law (not the Tea Party memebers) large insurance, pharma and medical companies all hate this Law because it will provide for more accountability and transparency then they want. They mounted the greatest, covert attack in history. But does anyone watch their money? Nope.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  109. Tom Carr

    I guess you Communist will just have to wait a little longer, for the craddle to grave care provided by your fuehr.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  110. Bob

    The Supreme Court has shifted from voting on the Constitutionality of laws to voting based purely on ideology. There's no better example of that than healthcare reform.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  111. Mike in Pekin

    When it fails, and I believe it will, it will give our leaders a chance to do what they should have done in the beginning – work together on a bi-partisan swolution that respects the rights of individuals to choose their own path forward. There were good things in the law – keeping kids on until they are 26 if necessary, for one. But the mandate was a step too far. I believe heath care reform will be incremental, solving one problem at a time, untill we achieve a longer term goal. it is too big of a system to properly fix all at once.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  112. Patriot

    If it fails, there will be one less American citizen. At age 67 I just can't stand the idiocy any longer. I'll reclaim my Canadian citizenship and head up North.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  113. curtis in philadelphia

    Jack, how much do you want to bet that this court would vote 5-4 to uphold a mandate forcing all Americans to watch FOX noise?

    April 2, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  114. Duke from the Crowbar Saloon

    How many citizens benefit from Obamacare? Millions, including most all of our Elders. How much are we-the-USA saving via Obamamcare? Billions, as stated by the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office. Are these Supreme Court conservative justices the same ones that threw the 2000 election to Bush/Cheney? [The media determined that Gore actually won Florida.] Are said conservatives likely to throw out an act that was voted IN by ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES?

    April 2, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  115. 4JULY1776

    Yeah.....insurance companies making a few dollars profit is a big problem.

    But the U.S. Government allowing $60-80 billion every year to be stolen from Medicaid & Medicare through fraud, waste, and abuse......that's no problem.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  116. Brian

    Why are we looking to the federal government to provide healthcare? Its an individual responsibility.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
  117. Bruce in CT

    A bad plan is not better than no plan at all. Obamacare is a bad plan. What will happen next if it fails? – a huge celebration and then hopefully a new start on a plan that works and makes sense, not a rush-it-through mess designed to make Obama feel good about himself.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
  118. Randy

    REPUBLICORPORICARE! You pay a private insurance company out of every Paycheck to not be covered. But hey, at least you get to watch those warm and wholesome commercials insurance companies pay for with your money.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:50 pm |
  119. Anthony

    Nothing. Republicans can say repeal and replace, but the fact is that they have no plan to replace Obama's plan. Nothing is the replacement. We will go back to the way it was, back in the days when the individual mandate was not a dirty word for Republicans. After all, Republicans were the people who invented the idea of individual mandate in the first place.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:52 pm |
  120. John in Kansas

    It is inaccurate to say it is unconstitutional to mandate someone to buy something. In 1792 three years after the Constitution was ratified, the Militia Law of 1792 was passed by Congress and singed into law by Washington. Some of the same people that passed that law were also the same people that were involved in ratifying the Constitution. The Militia law of 1792 required able-body men to join their state militia and were MANDATED to buy their own gun, buy their own bullets ,buy their own gun powder and fight and possibly die in the militia. The first Supreme Court did not strike the law done. The idea that you have financial responsibilities to society at large is not a new idea and is practiced everyday in America.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  121. Graeme Woodley

    If Obamacare fails, we can always go back to the Republican plan .... Idontcare

    April 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  122. Tim in Madras, OR

    Remove the HMO profit from healthcare and the cost will drop dramaticly. Single payer system removes the greed and provides COMPLETE healthcare without the greed. That way everyone pays their own way, no one is paying for someone else, so ALL needed proceedures and medicines are available without anyones religious issues being shoved into anyone else's face.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  123. Dan

    I think if it fails we should then take on the draft, because they both use the same function causing a citizen to take action they wouldn't normally do. The mandate section of the law directly correlates to the requirement to register for the draft.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  124. Gigi Oregon

    More arrogant ignorance I guess. I know of a dozen other countries that have "Insurance Mandates" and the Sky isn't falling. There is also Two-Tier and single payer plans other counties have in place like Mexico and Canada, and we say we are the greatest country. It's sad to know our people are as dumb as a sack of hair. And sadly the republicans have been trying to lower the standards of education in the United States also. Sometimes you get what you talk about because your not smart enough to "Google". There is no excuse in the United States for ignorance with a computor in nearly every home. If your friends start giving you a blank stare when you share the Republican propaganda maybe you need to go home and do some research.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  125. chris, dayton OH

    If it fails, the republicans get what they want: They're on their way to creating a Banana Republic. A nation of very poor, sick people ruled by a handful of wealthy who own the whole thing. Look on the bright side, Jack. America has more prisoners than any other nation in the world. When we're all impoverished, they can make poverty illegal and we'll all get shelter, food and health care after we're all processed. The republican party has failed and its failures have all but destroyed this country. It's time for people to wake up and stand up before there is nothing left. Except, of course, unless you're worth billions. Then you can just join the gang and pick the flesh off of whatever is left of the middle class.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
  126. Cy Gardner

    It will be back to the status quo. Tens of millions uninsured, greedy corporations that take your money for years and cut you loose as soon as you're sick. The GOP defends the status quo even when it is badly broken and hurts the country. They do this because they are paid handsomely to do this by the people who profit from the status quo. Whether it's insurance or pharmaceuticals or energy or the NRA, nothing matters except letting the greedy feed off the carcass of our dying democracy. The Republicans don't want to solve any problems and they especially don't want the Democrats to solve problems like balancing the budget (Clinton) or addressing the health care CRISIS (Obama). The GOP is only about politics and greed. cy from arlington, va

    April 2, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
  127. Ted

    A wise old man once said 'If your not going to do it right ,then don't do it at all " If the president and the congress don't want to be covered by it,then why force it on everyone else....

    April 2, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
  128. oldoc

    Why are we, the U.S., the only civilized country in the world without universal healthcare for it's CITIZENS. This notion that we're going to be Communists (and other bogus claims) is simply not facing the realities; and besides, what's wrong with "borrowing" good, proven-workable ideas from other nations and adapting them for 21st century America. We all pay for the indigents one way or another already so why not do the right thing and have good healthcare for everyone and divide the cost (via taxes, naturally) among the citizenry. I suspect P.C. prevents folks who oppose such an idea due to the recent flooding/overburdening of our Medicaid and other catch-net programs by illegals who jump on and drive costs thru the roof for all of us "citizens" – for whom these programs were put in place to care for. Let's try to get past that idea and plug that illegal immigration dike and then get with the rest of the civilized world and have healthcare for all of us!

    April 2, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
  129. Ralph Nelson

    The Republicans through ALEC have figured out how to destroy FDR's America and they will destroy healthcare by turning it over to the states where it will fail as soon as they have a deep recession because the states can't print money, borrow like the Feds, or run deficits to prime the pump. The future is the Koch Brothers and ALEC.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
  130. Jim in KC

    Well, if you get seriously ill, just remember: there is still full coverage government-provided healthcare in prison. Since conservatives seem to feel thatthe right to own firearms is more important than the right to have medical care, I can see a new form of insurance coming... and it ain't pretty.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
  131. HenryMiller

    "They say that other federal laws could be on the firing line – including environmental one such as the Endangered Species and Clean Water acts as well as federal regulation of the labor market and laws preventing employment discrimination."

    Excellent!

    The federal government has no Constitutional authority in these areas, though nothing is preventing the individual states from enacting their own legislation to whatever effect it pleases them–which may or may not match the one-size-fits-all petty tyrannies of the federal government.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
  132. Christi from Texas

    When Obamacare falls (not if, Jack), there will be rejoicing in the streets. Obama may finally recognize that we have a set Constitution and a just system of checks and balances (though I doubt he can see past his own arrogance to admit it). Oligarchy shenanigans cannot be tolerated.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
  133. DaleW in MA

    Well, FoxNews, if you'd call it by it's proper name, The Affordable Care Act, you might get a less biased responses. The only thing Republicans want is to let the old and infirm die unless they can pony up the bucks to support their donor corporations. Santorum will just let God sort things out. Romney will do a leveraged buyout on your remaining assets.

    April 2, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
  134. Logic N LA

    The court may declare mandatory enrollment unconstitutional, but Congress has an obligation to then spend every minute reworking this bill to help all Americans get coverage. an unhealthy citizenship, does not make for a strong nation. and the more we allow insurance companies raise rates, it will only get worse.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
  135. Barbara Leavitt

    There are other countries that have better plans than this was that cost less than this one would. Why not go with one of them? Something like 20 other countries have better health insurance than America at less cost to the government. But then, why wasn't this decades ago?

    April 2, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
  136. Larry in Houston

    What's Next ? lol – how about more people on medicaid ? that's what's next.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
  137. Stephen

    Hilarious ..... there is nothing about the Affordable Care Act that makes healthcare more affordable.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
  138. Duane - St. Pete FLA

    I'm a GOP'er and we need to reform healthcare....but not the way Obama was doing it. Tort reform needs to be a BIG part of it or cost will be crazy.....I like the kids staying on the plan until 26 and the pre-exsisting condition rule....but you can't force people to do this.....oh, one other thing....we really need to "see what's in it" BEFORE WE VOTE IT IN. I never understood why you liberals would want a bill passed before knowing what is in it????

    April 2, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
  139. George Blackburn

    II think the statement "Maybe Freedom will Happen" is hilarious.

    What freedom are you talking about? The freedom to choose a health insurance provider, and then have them drop you based on a technicality when you get sick? Or how about the Freedom to watch your neighbor die because he couldn't afford health insurance to begin with.

    Or maybe you're talking about the Freedom of children being denied health insurance completely because of a pre-existing condition they have no control over.

    Or maybe its the freedom to pay obscene amounts of money even if you have insurance, because you're on a 80/20 plan and you have a 200,000 medical bill due to curable cancer.

    Or maybe its the freedom to go bankrupt when you can't pay your medical bills.

    That sounds like a lot of freedom you people in the South are hoping for. I love the world you want to create. Eliminate regulatory agencies, make everyone sick from pollution, then take away everyone's chance at proper medical care.

    The best freedom is the freedom from these types of ideas.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
  140. Tina from WI

    We'll have killed what should have been bipartisan middle ground. The mandate in question was a Republican ideal for 15 years until a Democrat agreed. Our health care has become nothing more then another piece of political gaming. But if we lose our insurance and can't afford or can't get it again for any reason and then get sick..well hey "we can't play THAT game". Maybe we'll see a mass exodus to Canada or some other country that doesn't subscribe to the "let him die" ideology.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
  141. John from Oregon

    First, it is NOT Obamacare...that is the way the GOP has spun this so that they can rally their troops against it (solely because President Obama is not their guy). The GOP doesn't stand for anything anymore because they are so completely consumed with standing AGAINST the President.
    To your question...this should open the door to a single payer system so that we get the third parties out of healthcare. If we want a less expensive system, the first order of business is to get the 'for profit' (insurance companies and their stockholders) third parties out of the system. Medicaire for all with taxes equal to supporting the system...pretty simple unless you have been brainwashed into thinking that the Federal Government is not responsible for Commerce or the general welfare of the citizens. Grover Norquist and those of his ilk need to find a country that is founded on their un-American principles of 'everyone for themselves'.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
  142. Roger in Overland Park, KS

    Nothing. Really... nothing. That's because this was originally Republicans' idea and they are against it just because Democrats passed it and they cannot take any credit for it. So now if it is repealed there is no replacement from Republicans because that was the original plan they had in mind too. So, nothing. Really... nothing. One good thing after this is that this will fix the housing issue... because we are going back to caves (stone age).

    April 2, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
  143. Eric G

    There's a difference between respecting the Consitution and using it as a tool against progress.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
  144. Bill

    Great question Jack. The only problem is nobody has an answer. The GOP is more than happy to complain and attempt to use the issue for political gain while offering no real alternative. Meanwhile the exponential rise in health care costs represent a very real threat to not only the economy but to the very idea of the "American dream" as we know it. My opinion, it is the single greatest threat facing our nation today and it has to be addressed one way or another.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
  145. Larry in Houston

    If Obamacare fails, what's next ?
    Answer : That's why we will get either Romney – Or Obama, at least Romney will end up doing his etch-a-sketch gig, and by the time Romney's Term is over, he will have not only the democrats against him, but he will end up having ALL of the Republicans Against him, because he "all of a sudden" becomes a Moderate, during his Presidency. I'm still Voting Democrat, even though I'm not a huge fan of Obama, otherwise, this country will end up going back about 30 years, if we elect one of the other clowns that is currently running.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
  146. Allen

    Close to seventy percent, THAT’S SEVENTY PERCENT, of current bankruptcies are due to un-payable medical bills. That leaves about 29 percent left before the high and mighty One percent gets all the money we have. Good, then they can pay the damn bills. I’ll just keep sleeping on the beach and eat coconuts and with the current warming globe, I can do it farther north than usual.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
  147. IndianaDobie

    The worse case is that the entire law is stricken down, which means that Congress would immediately pass the politically popular segments of the law (allowing "kids" up to age 26 to be on their parents policies, lifting the lifetime cap, etc). The ban on pre-existing conditions would probably go away, but that is about it.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:07 pm |
  148. Bill from Clinton, Maryland

    No more toasting, "to your health."

    April 2, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
  149. AngryMobVoter

    Now Obama thinks he is more important than the Supreme Court. Obama you are: pompous, self-important, arrogant, autocratic, conceited, contemptuous, disdainful, presumptuous, vainglorious...DANGEROUS...

    April 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
  150. Varag

    If the individual mandate falls, then the next law to fall would be the one that forces hospitals to service any patient without asking for insurance or their ability to pay. If individual can not be forced to buy a product they don't want, then hospitals/doctors can't be forced too. Supreme Court already gave rulings earlier that corporations have same basic rights as individuals.
    If the individual mandate fails, then Government can't force insurance companies to service people with high medical costs. Insurance companies will not accept people with pre-existing conditions – based on the logic corporations can't be forced to buy something they dont want.
    Most definitely Romneycare will be repealed.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
  151. Peggy

    Has anyone thought of running an insurance company on the same premise as a credit union? The members become the owners and the dollars not used to pay for healthcare are invested and the profits go back into paying for healthcare???? possible???

    April 2, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
  152. Jack - Lancaster, Ohio

    Mr. Cafferty:

    From all the readings from this blog and the twitters(twitterers ?) it does not matter if obamacare goes down because for decades what has been coming next is usually a travesty and a downgrade from what came last, only the smoke changed colors and the mirrors are brighter than ever. Poof! Suck it up America !

    April 2, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
  153. Mark from New Jersey

    From the bought and paid for Congress and Supreme Court? Probably the reinstitution of slavery.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  154. Duker

    Limbaugh said if it passed in the first place he would move to Costa Rica
    Which is funny
    They have had their own version of Obamacare for 20 years with an Individual mandate

    April 2, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
  155. Ron Hall Arkansas

    I would think if it falls that the GOP would need to quickly come up with their unknown alternative or face the wrath of a nation with the lid blown off of health care costs.and lack of coverage. By the way, what is their alternative?

    April 2, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  156. Anthony from Swedesboro

    The Supreme Court, once beyond reproach, is now bought and paid for. Justice Thomas's wife is a Tea Party ingenue.
    To expect any of the five conservatives to back Obama's healthcare bill in an election year, no matter the precedence, is to believe in fairy tales.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  157. Phil Coyne

    Mr Cafferty, will Congress and the President drop their current health care plans and participate in the Affordable Health Care plan? I would really like to know. I they will, then I'm all for it. If they won't them I'm against it. Thank you for your response.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
  158. A,J, Boyle Pembroke Pines, FL)

    Apres the demise of Obamacare, comes the deluge (ever higher medical costs, more people without health insurance, and still no plan from the Republicans that would work any better than Obamacare. On this issue, as on so many others, the Republican position is nothing more than an empty suit, much like most Republican legislators.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  159. aelarsen

    healthcare is a huge ball of mud.....but I will vote for whomever gets us out of afghanistan...I have never voted for a democrat for president and I am 54 years old .....this will not end well for republicans

    April 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm |
  160. Kevin in CA

    We're in for an onslaught of Congressional measures to remove any risk or unprofitable policies for the insurance carriers.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
  161. Pete

    Jack. There is no next. Neither party will touch healthcare for decades. Look what it cost the Democrats.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  162. Dave

    This is what happens to realistic ideas in Conservodroid America. If the law is good for the Middle Class you will hear nothing but whining and carping from the rightwing that some capitalist CEO will lose a few bucks in pay because of it. Nothing good for the 99% will ever come from the rightwing.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  163. Seema

    Well, the current healthcare did not have all the answesr to the healthcare crisis we are all facing. Here is my take on it.

    1. There is nothing wrong in saying that free health care should not be extended to the ones who do not have health insurance. That way, illegal immigration would stop indirectly. Those guys cannot then hit the ER as often as they do. The EMTALA rule should come under immediate scrutiny and changes should be made to avoid exhorbitant amounts of money being spent on the uninsured.
    2. For underage children, physically unable etc, we should extend medicaid as Obama has done.....in fact this is a fantastic thing that the current government has done and this rule should stay. It is the responsibility of the society to keep it going.
    3. Government should consider starting subidised hospitals where the treatment costs are lowered. For example,they can have rooms with multiple beds, fewer nurses, etc. These can be teaching hospitals where medical students can learn and where patients should sign a waiver upfront that they cannot sue physicians for enormous amounts of money. Even these hospitals should charge a minimum fee for service. We can train more doctors or PAs at lower costs.
    4. Changes must made regarding how medicare spends on the very elderly..beyond 90 yrs+. Spending must increase on Hospice and palliative care.

    It may seem unkind or discompassionate talking about denying health care to the insured but the enormity of the costs will take down the country in the long run. We cannot afford to pass on the debt to our posterity.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm |
  164. Tim Northrup

    Single Payer Healthcare, finally. We will finally join the civilized world. It's about time.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:18 pm |
  165. marybeth, massachusetts

    What's next if the ACA is struck down? Millions of people being thrown off their insurance because the kids are too old to be on dad's insurance, because they're women and being a woman is to have a pre-existing condition, because after 35 years of faithfully paying ever-increasing premiums and getting less and less coverage every year, as soon as you get sick the insurance companies suddenly discover that you've had a pre-existing condition, so they refuse to pay. The costs of buying insurance will skyrocket, making health insurance out of reach for poor, middle class, and working class Americans. Only the wealthy will get health care because they are the only ones who will be able to afford it.

    Don't expect anything to replace the ACA from the Republicans–remember how the crowds cheered and applauded Ron Paul when he said that if you don't have insurance and you get sick, you die? Expect NOTHING from the Republicans but more tax cuts for insurance companies and big pharma companies. Expect Republicans to continue to provide subsidies and other corporate welfare for these wealthy businesses. And expect these businesses to continue to take as much as possible from the people while providing nothing in return. It is a one-way street–all of the money flows in one direction–to the corporations.

    The ACA isn't perfect. But the system we have now is so broken that it can't be fixed. We pay the most for health care, have the worst outcomes, and we're the only Western country that doesn't provide health care for its citizens. We're an outlier in that regard, and that's being an outlier in the worst possible way. We need a public option, we need single-payer. And we need a system that isn't based solely upon profits. But I don't think that's going to happen in my lifetime.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  166. Ilya

    Those of you saying "move to canada," I have a question for you. Why do you think all the canadians with means come to america for their medical care? There are people that die in canada, france etc. while waiting for care. "socialized" medicine does not work, it inherently has "death panels" (rationed care) built into it.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
  167. Dog_Eat_Dog

    As the father of a 21 year old part time student I'm greatful for the new rules that allow her to stay on my policy. If Obama Care gets overturned I will then be in favor of a complete abandonment of the current Medicare / Medicaid system and Social Security. Why should I support others (Old Tea-baggers) who seem to forget who supports them.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  168. ChuckB

    FDR survived the Court overturning the National Recovery Act (NRA), quite well. The public didn't even hold against him his attempt to pack the Court with liberals by increasing the number of justices. The media is making way too much out of this. Actually it could be to his benefit if the Court overturns the law along party lines.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  169. Ed in California

    Congress will go back and try to redo Obamacare to make it legal. They will fail and we will be left with higher premiums for our Insurance. As always, business wins while the little guy loses.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  170. Martha Campbell

    What's next is my grandson who does not attend college, and has a minimum wage job, will be off his parent's healthcare, even though he has some medical issues, that won't be covered because they are pre-existing. If the supreme court repeals the healthcare bill, it will confirm that the Supreme Court is no longer supreme, just another political entity.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  171. Angryblackman

    then we go back and say that every american that means every man woman and child regardless of age, race, gender issues, sexual orientation, etc. will be covered under a socialist program called medicare for all. call it single payer or whatever, you pay taxes you are covered. You dont have a job you are covered. so long as you are a us citizen you are covered. for non-citizens in this country illegally well that is a whole OTHER issue.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:20 pm |
  172. Tom

    If Obamacare is overturned, it is back to a GOP supported Medical Insurance Dictatorship with PAC kick-backs.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  173. Roberto

    What's next? Social Security? Medicare? Any Federal requirement or regulations would be subject to judicial review?? So much for the folks who don't want the Supreme Court legislating.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  174. John Peeler

    If ObamaCare is brought down by the Supreme Court, there is no viable alternative to single payer. The insurance companies themselves will be begging for it!

    April 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  175. CJ in alabama

    what is next???? The GOP has no solutions , so it means Heath care will be out of reach for many more Americans than now ....sad state of affairs for the US citizen . But the GOP will think of it as a victory , but for those of us that need it , we lose...

    April 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  176. Failure

    If the law fails because of the court feels that they can not require individuals to pay than why do courts require MEN to pay to healthcare when they divorce??

    April 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  177. Mike from CT

    The real issue before the Court is an expansion of the Commerce Clause of the Constitution, and not health care, much to the chagrin of partisans on both sides of the health care debate. For the past 60 years Congress has been expanding the reach of the Commerce Clause to justify extending control of more of our choices and actions. We should keep in mind that the Founders designed the Constitution to limit the powers of government. The Commerce Clause was written for the purpose of limiting the powers of State governments in regulating trade that crosses state lines. The 10th Amendment states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." There is no wording in the Constitution that allows the Federal Government to tell citizens that they must take a positve action to do something, other than the 16th Amendment, that allows the Congress to require that we pay income taxes. Unfortunately for proponents of the Health Care Reform Act, the expansion of the Commerce Clause to justify forcing an individual to purchase insurance is clearly unconstiutional (IMHO). I believe that the Court will have no choice but to stike down the mandate.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  178. Frank

    It wouldn't be a big surprise to me if the supreme court throws the whole thing out. After all, they sided with the big corporations to allow them to run all political campaigns so why would they not side with the big insurance companies now? Supreme court judges shouldn't be appointed for life, sooner or later they all end up being corrupted and this court has passed that point. If republicans and the supreme court truly cared about government over stepping their power and the huge debt crisis they would first take on defense spending which is in the trillions and we all are forced to pay for that whether we support wars or not. To talk about constitutionalism now is too little too late. They should have been more concerned about that when Bush launched the Afghan and Iraq wars.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  179. Jay from Madison, WI

    Jack, Obamacare should be struck down because I shouldn't be required to buy health insurance. That way when I have to go to the emergency room you and taxpayers like you will be required to pay for me. Sure, I'll get a bill, but I can just get on a multi-year installment plan. Taxpayers will pick up the tab in the meantime. I say we ALL ditch our health insurance plans and just get on payment installation plans. This way, we can all dig ourselves deeper and deeper into debt until the American public health care system itself completely self-destructs. When this happens, we'll all be going to the herbalist in our home villages in order to receive "health care".

    April 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
  180. mike58

    Simple it goes back to Congress to do it right without all the crap in it

    April 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  181. barbara in nc

    Can you say "guaranteed 4 more years for the only person willing to even try to help the average schmo?"

    April 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  182. Shnega

    I should have the FREEDOM to opt-out of preventing a ground invasion by foreign nations. It is unAmerican for me to be forced to pay for national defense. I'd like to have the option of paying a company to provide whatever level of defense i want to risk having or leave the bill entirely to my fellow citizens. (silly isn't it?)

    April 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  183. Donnie Humfress Bay St Louis Ms

    How about Medicare and Social security or even taxes? All are deducted from "your" earnings without you having any say in the matter. If the individual mandate for the healthcare bill is struck down then that should serve as precedent to get rid of the requirement that people have to have taxes, Social security, and Medicare deducted from their earnings. If the mandate is voted down this changes the country as we know it. Thanks Gop!!! Obama 2012...

    April 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
  184. Dave

    Wow, the Repubs accusing the Dems of "scare tactics". In other news, the pot called the kettle black this morning. Scare tactics are all the GOP has been using to try and discredit the health care law, and anything else Obama has done or tried to do. Their hypocrisy knows absolutely no limits.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  185. Cal in CA

    Hey, next we can throw out all the state laws requiring drivers to buy car insurance. And why should I have to buy a drivers license to operate a car? Why should people with guns have to buy a license to shoot animals? What about all those taxes we are forced to pay if we want a telephone? Nobody should have to pay for anything and only the Supreme Court can make it so.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  186. Omar

    Absolutely nothing, Jack, literally. Striking down the mandate will be the beginning of the end of American hopes for ever achieving major reforms. Immigration reform, tax-code reform education reform, we can say bye to it all.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  187. Larry in Pittsburgh

    Nothing we take a deep breath blame it on Bush ,and start using Romney's mega millions to pay for a new bill

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  188. Michael

    How about addressing the actually cost of healthcare. If you look at the current law it does next to nothing to lower the actually cost of healthcare, instead focusing on the price. We might like this in the short run, but, sooner or later the rising cost and increased demand for health care with put enough pressure on the system to cause either actual cost reforms or a collapse.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  189. Ed from Colorado

    More and more people forced out of insurance–the insurance company death panels. It's a domino effect where the 99 percenters will get healthcare in the Emergency room. It has been shown that some form of single payer system is the only workable solution, ala Medicare for all. As the right wingers say–get rid of Obama-care, but don't touch my Medicare!

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  190. Paul from Rockaway NJ

    Jack, if Obama care fails, the only thing we can be certain of is that the F-word network pundits will spends days and weeks gloating over the fallout that will come upon the Democrats and the Obama administration.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  191. Marc from Hudson, Florida

    If history serves us, if the health care bill goes down the issue will die as it will become radio active. This happened when Truman ran into hostilities with his plan to expand social security to include health care for all. It wasn't until Nixon that it was addressed again, he put it on the table for his second term but he resigned. No further serious effort for health care came until Clinton's first term that went down in flames and he didn't touch the issue in his second term. Now the Obama effort which may die via the supreme court. No one will touch it is my take. Such an effort will be considred political suicide. The uninsured numbers will rise and the costs for health care will escalate. Not a pretty picture.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  192. libtalker

    What happens is my son and his wife and two children will continue to go without insurance. If my son is injured again, he will limp around for months again until eventually heals–hopefully without permanent damage. His pain will be mine with every step. If their little son or daughter get really sick, they will go to the emergency room and everyone else will pay for it or they'll be in debt until they die. Right now, they're clawing their way to middle income, but without insurance, chances are they will fall into permanent poverty with even a minor health emergency.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm |
  193. Cee.Louisiana

    Jack ... It will lessen the cred. of the SC.....which has already taken a hit, with the citizens united thingy.....I would say that the Dems will have a huge amount of fire power for the election and may go Medicare for all......but the onus is on Romney because he will have to defend Romneycare, which is a template for Obamacares.....so he will have to come up with something except dumb savings accounts to help out the average American........

    April 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  194. drdiane50

    If Obamacare is killed, then we all better 1) not get sick, and 2), if we do, we better die quickly. The idea that we cannot find our way to universal health care is simply outrageous. On the other hand, we have governors who can find a way to intrude into the nether parts of women's bodies, so maybe some day one of them will figure out the health care catastrophe.

    And I HAVE health care here in NM – I feel for everyone nationwide who doesn't

    April 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  195. Bill in VA

    Funny thing... these same people wanting the courts to overturn the people's vote against gay marriage in California are now crucifying the same courts for probably overturning healthcare legislation not put before the people for a vote.

    You can't have it both ways.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  196. Baba

    If 'Obamacare' falls, the insurance companies simply win.

    When insurance companies win (like any other major industry e.g. oil), everyone else suffers.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  197. Jai

    SCOTUS should decide if the mandate to pay into social security is unconstitutional.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  198. Christopher Tinny

    Jack...after many years of financial studies, I conclude that the insurance companies will finally make huge profits-if the law fails....ha. Sorry about the monetary sarcasm on a Monday.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  199. Nick D. Neighbour

    "What's next" will be a return to the Horse-Drawn Carriage and the "Buggy Whip" and, to people "Knowing Their Place"!!
    Nick. N.
    Pasadena.
    CA.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
  200. Mike, Boston

    I'm 24 and being treated for cancer on my mother's healthcare plan. I worry how I will be covered if that law is overturned.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
  201. jrm03063

    To the dopes on this – and other threads – that say that such and such a group got an exemption and Congress isn't included and on and on – they're trying to make it sound as if this is some sort of penalty that a few are getting exemptions from. The truth – is that those getting TEMPORARY exemptions are those who have plans significantly in excess of what is typical in the future – and where the content of the plan was either a point of contract negotiations or is a significant element of compensation. More fear-mongering and disinformation from the right – they can't actually help America – so they try via messaging to make it seem like Democrats are somehow trying to hurt America. Sad. America is starting to notice the total LACK of anything constructive from the right....

    April 2, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  202. pj rogers

    What is interesting is if you don't call it Obama care ,many people like it...what bothers me is i don't want to pay for another persons emergency room bill because they don't have health care . If that means i am forced to buy health insurance or pay a penalty, (and that penalty really is going toward the cost of emergency care services?). That's ok with me...my sunday paper i has several pages of jobs available in the health care field, if the mandate fails, it will cost a lot of jobs...

    April 2, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
  203. Chris from Philadelphia, PA

    Jack, you should have asked what's next in 2000 when the Court issued Bush v. Gore. In that case, every single justice went against their historical jurisprudence to decide a case based squarely on their political ideology. Even Mr. Federalist himself, William Rehnquist, would not leave the issue to the state of Florida, but rather accepted jurisdiction the Supreme Court did not have to decide a case on a whim. Allowing THAT decision to stand has tainted our government beyond repair. Up until then, we could at least look the judicial branch of government as being above the mud-slinging of partisan politics. Repealing the Affordable Care Act is what's next after Bush v. Gore. You're too late in asking your question.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  204. Dave Dubinsky

    We continue to spend an average of $1.3 trillion, annually, on chronic diseases, with nearly $500 billion spent because Americans lack decent health insurance coverage. That's 52 trillion dollars spent on a rampant chronic disease epidemic; with $18 trillion dollars that could have been avoided!

    April 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  205. Mike from South Florida

    Just the same old thing, go to the emergency room and then send $5 payment each month for the rest of your life.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  206. JoJo

    Where were all these fiscally responsible neoconservatives when they were pouring a trillion of our tax dollars into the lie-based unnecessary Iraq holocaust? (At least the Libertarians opposed that.) Money for killing but nothing for saving lives by people who call themselves Christians. I'm not a legal scholar and don't know whether the healthcare mandate is constitutional or not, but judging by the past record of this right-wing stacked Supreme Court in the partisan corrupt Gore vs Bush decision and the plutocratic Citizen United Decision, I don't see much hope for Americans who are poor and get sick.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
  207. Bill Carney

    If the current health bill is shot down by the Supreme Court, we just return to square one, waste more time and money rehashing it all again at a later date and arrive at the same solution again. We've been down this road before and found it paved with gold ....... for a few.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  208. Flyingwolf from Manchester, NH

    If the Court approves the Health Care law, maybe there will be legislation against monsters like Monsanto that poisoning our food resources with its GMO's and stop the production of high fructose corn syrup which (IMO) created a generation of morbidly obsese type 2 diabetics. If it is struck down, we've always got the 12/21/12 apocolypse to look forward to.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  209. David Doney

    What happens? We go back to not caring about the 30 million Americans without health insurance. After all, who cares about the poor and needy? They can always go to the emergency room. Our increasingly far right Republican Party and Supreme Court should be very embarrassed if Obamacare fails.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  210. Allen L Wenger

    Nothing, absolutely nothing. That is what the GOP wants and they have enough votes to stop anything.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  211. Jerry Jacksonville, Fl.

    I hope the idiots that want it overturned get to pay a lot of medicaid to cover the cost of treating people that don't have insurance and don't want to buy any. This is another case where the idiot Republicans have told the dummies that this is a bad policy yet they forgot to tell these people that they will be paying for the people who doesn't have insurance and don't want to buy any

    April 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  212. ArranWebb

    What next? The politicians have to write legislation that works, is paid for and does something to address the exponential rise of health care COSTS. Not the budget – the cost of services.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm |
  213. Hiram

    We are all required (if you own a car) to buy Car insurance, its the law? How Stupid can one be. Have a home? you'll need home owners insurance to get a morgage in most states. No one seems to be suing on that issue? It makes perfect sense to buy health insurance, its too bad that the Federal government has to have a law in place to make you buy it. Common sense should make this an obvious choice! Oh can't afford it? they will make it affordable. The GOP will do what ever they can to derail anything that the president offeres.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
  214. Irwin

    This clown in the White House is now threatening the Supreme Court about making constitutional decisions as they're unelected. What Chutzpah! He's trying to force people to buy a flawed product. And with little or no price controls!! Just shovel money to the insurance companies. The only system that will work is to take insurance companies out of the loop with a single-payer system, or a combined government and insurer system, but with striict limits on what the insurers can do as far as denying claims or raising prices.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:31 pm |
  215. Robert

    Fox News and the Tea Party have organized the "haters". They don't have a better solution. Every state requires a drivers licence. Can you imagine 50 state health care programs? If it goes down the people are going to blame Republicans and Republicans will wish they never got into it. Republicans are now praying it passes.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  216. Frank, Utah

    Ever since the court ruled in favor of the big corporations taking over all political campaigns they became corrupted. Why should we expect them to not side with the big insurance companies now? They're going to rule against the whole law. If republicans and the supreme court were truly worried about the deficit and government over stepping its powers they should tackle the defense spending which is in the trillions and they should explain to us how its any more constitutional to force people to pay for two wars if they don't support them. How pathetic can they get?

    April 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm |
  217. Katy

    Jack –
    I'm a 31 yr old, college grad, single mom in Michigan with no real prospects of a good job in this economy. So I'm stuck waiting tables. Without Medicaid my son nor I would have any type of medical coverage and because I make $2.65/hr my employer does not offer ANY healthcare options. Since when did we as a society lose empathy and sympathy for our fellow man? Is it not better to have a healthy, educated, more sound society which will in turn lead to a better economy? It's quite simple if you ask me. Of course these spoiled rich kids on Capitol Hill don't care about the small guy like me they've lead comfortable silver spoon lives and have no real idea what it's like to want or NEED for that matter what should be a basic human right, healthcare. It's not socialist to want for your fellow human being to lead a healthy happy life, it's called being human and caring.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
  218. Dog_Eat_Dog

    If it gets overturned I say also remove the requirement for Hospitals to provide care for the uninsured.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:34 pm |
  219. hendrik

    What about all the other excisting mandates, like Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment benefits? Oh, but wait, Paul Ryan and friends like to get rid of those as well. If this ever happens, we will be like Russia before the revolution. A majority of poor people serving the super rich. God, or who ever you believe in, saves us.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
  220. William Zimmerman

    First of all, this is not Obama Care. This is Timmy, Jimmy, Bobby, Ann, and Barbara Care. The Republicans want to call it Obama care to hide the fact that the people receiving the care provided by the Health Care Act are particularly young and elderly. These are the groups that people like Congressman Ryan like to attack. They are defenseless and the Republicans know it. What happens if the Health Care Act falls? The answer is simple, the very young and very old die because no one is there to help or defend them. This is so the very wealthy can have additional tax breaks. The Republicans will be very satisfied with themselves when they pick up the paper and see the days deaths.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:35 pm |
  221. BCC in LA

    Feel good that the constitution is up held and begin work on a better solution to ensure all Americans are provided healthcare at a reasonable cost.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
  222. Republicans are Neanderthals

    The result of representative government. Instead of taxing everyone as was done with Medicare the Congress left the door open for the Supreme Court to get involved. Not a wise choice given how the majority usually votes. The handwriting was on the wall after the Citizen's United case. When a corporation is deemed to be the same as a private citizen you know things are sliding downhill fast. The failed funding mechanism was a result of the Republicans demanding it be structured this way. Let it fall, then people will see what alternatives the GOP = GREEDY OPPOSITION PARTY offers to fill the gaps. I suspect we'll hear the same old litany about cutting taxes and letting the markets work.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
  223. Shnega

    One problem is that our beloved constitution is way overdue for an overhaul. Yes sorry to break your heart and soul tea partiers but the document is well beyond it's useful lifetime. Take 2nd amendment for example. The purpose was what...and do you really think you can fight the US navy, airforce, marines, and army with something you buy at walmart? obsolete and mis-used. Health care should not be a commercial product sold for profit. That's just dumb.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
  224. TG

    What's next is simple. The Republicans ram a bill through Congress mandating that no one can receive care at an emergency room unless they have insurance. The uninsured sick will die. Then the idiots who oppose a rational system that covers everyone with affordable insurance will beat the drums for rapid healthcare reform. Also, someone please tell the dopes that think emergency room care is real health care that emergency rooms are required only to diagnose and stabilize, not treat the illness. Don't Republicans know how to read?

    April 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm |
  225. stevem7

    When it fails, not if it fails, it should be quitely swept under the rug where it belongs. We are not our brother's keepers and shouldn't have to fund healthcare because it's some Democratic principle to take care of everyone. As the sign at my favorite Mexican restaurant says "Need a penny, take a penny, need two pennies, take two pennies ... and when it gets to need a nickle it's get a job.
    Steve in Wetumpka,ALA

    April 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
  226. JB, Soldotna, AK

    The Killing of the unwanted Old at the tune of 6000+ a day like we already do the unwanted young unborn.
    It is going down just like OUR Nation is. I'm one of those Unwanted Old Jack, just like you.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:41 pm |
  227. Mike A. , CO

    More and more people will go without insurance, leaving the pool smaller and smaller, resulting in higher and higher prices for those left insured. My son's basic high deductible insurance (19 years old, healthy) has gone from $95 to $160 in four years and we're close to opting him out – just as an example.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
  228. Chad

    We die. Its simple Jack, we die. Then the politicians will talk some more, mean while americans will keep dying. For all of the threats, foreign powers and domestic terrorists, dont hold a candle to this issue. The fact that americans don't have a single payer system will eventually kill more americans this year and continually year after year than

    April 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
  229. Dan in Charles Town, WV

    Jack, I don't know what will happen next, but one thing is for sure: Someone will make a lot of money from it. Money always wins in this country.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm |
  230. Mitoosense Ft Lauderdale Florida

    The illusion that employer contibutions are gifts is a myth supported by the Oligopoly System griping American workers. The truth is of coarse we work and earn every nickle of our pay.The pay package of every worker is built into the products final cost.Claiming any of these benefits always requires the worker to jump through all the hoops to just get his money returned. SCAM

    April 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
  231. Chris in NC

    What kind of Judeo-Christian nation fails to recognize health care for all as a human right?

    April 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm |
  232. Robert W. North Carolina

    It looks simple to me. Congress will have to go back to the drawing board and make a new bill that IS constitutional. Almost everyone thinks improvements are needed they just disagree on how it should be done.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  233. Griz-Denver, co

    Defeated with a Republican President with a Democratic congress (Nixon)
    Defeated by Democratic President with a Republican congress (Clinton)
    Defeated by Democratic President with a Democratic Contress (Obama?)
    the only hope is some donut hole from a Republican President with a Republican Congress.
    Face it, the opponents of health care win. lets never speak of it again!!!

    April 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm |
  234. Nick

    Here's a solution the GOP might be interested in passing: if you are in need of medical care you can't afford, you'll be covered under the "Smith & Wesson" plan. The hospital will send you home with the gun, and you supply the bullet.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:45 pm |
  235. Vadim Kirillov

    In my opinion, if Obamacare falls, this country will enter into another 16-year cycle of failing to fix the national healthcare system. Those many that stand for the fall of the Obamacare law are probably happy with the rising share of gross national product spent on this healthcare which is now 18 per cent. They need the rise up to 25% to start scratching their heads and realizing that the system is broken indeed. In Canada, where the universal socialized healthcare system buys our northern neighbors extra three years of life expectancy as compared to Americans, this portion is just 11 per cent. A big mindset shift is needed to get things work in the USA.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:46 pm |
  236. Dog_Eat_Dog

    As someone who lives in the South (Formerly Lived In North), I can tell you if the current President was a white male from the South the Republican White Trash who oppose it would be all for (???care). It's all about race in Code.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  237. Sal

    If I told you that the Constitution is outdated and should be rewritten to apply to todays world, would you believe that? Well it's true.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  238. WachetAuf

    If the SCOTUS dismantles Obamacare, we will be left with one choice if the Congress remains deadlocked by Republican opposition. The one choice will be the Republican plan, whatever it may be. We will have no more worry about "death panels", rationing medical care or government telling your doctor how to treat you. That will be a thing of the past. Victory parades, similar to those following WWII, will be held all over the country.

    New concerns will arise, including prices makig healthcare and insurance for it affordable by none except the wealthy.

    The funeral business is probably the next best investment to be in. Wall Street will issue an IPO for a funeral business called "FuneralMax". It will advertise on every network and newspaper. The company logo will contain an image of Jesus on the Cross. It will be run by MBA's who will expand the business model. The new model will include products which we never imagined. It will have something akin to "ambulance chasing". There will be a representative of FuneralMax in every ward of the hospital who will counsel quick and painless deaths (music from Mash – "Suicide is Painless"). Because many more will not be admitted to hospitals, FuneralMax will have store front locations open 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Insurance plans will require the insured to die before a certain date or the policy will lapse. There will be company grief counselors, priests, estate planners. Drugs previously prohibited will be authorized to minimize any suffering, including heroine, weed. It is not too early for Wall Street to start the IPO. I am available for consulting. I can advise the IPO managers on the religious, political, marketing (propaganda) and legal elements of the concept. I only require a $100,000 non-refundable retainer before we begin the process.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
  239. Ann

    The government poorly argued that the Health mandate is a tax, yet nowhere in the language of the Act is that stated. It forces people to buy into a market system whether they want to or not, which is definitely unconstitutional. What Obama needs to do is simply have the Act re-enacted as a tax and state it in the law itself. This essentially means he will raise taxes to pay for healthcare which is well within bounds of the federal government. The only problem is, when you call it a "tax" the American people on both sides of the issue will have problems with this...and Obama is too scared to tell the American people that he is essentially raising taxes because of people who choose not to pay for Healthcare (which is their right).

    April 2, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  240. disappointed

    What next? A national revolution, European style. Until the government actually represents the people.... personal rights have been on the chopping block for so long, now average people have to focus so much on keeping afloat the tide must turn. A minor ailment can bankrupt most. Without some relief our great country will fail.
    I will move myself to Canada. I would gladly pay more in taxes to ensure my family a secure future.
    Austin Texas

    April 2, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
  241. mott the Hoople

    Here is what you do: make insurance ONLY for ILLNESS and INJURIES. Nothing else! I am tired of co-workers bragging how much their baby cost them. Pregnancy and childbirth is neither an illness nor an injury.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
  242. Daniel

    Then the GOP should explain that if you get sick you will be out of luck per their death panel, the decision of the supreme court.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm |
  243. Jim/Simi Valley, Ca

    What's next.....Vote the republicians out of the House and Senate and start again....

    April 2, 2012 at 5:52 pm |
  244. Kim Hartley

    If the law does not stand there will be huge negative fincancial impact on the US economy as the rest of the civilized/modern world reacts with disgust and true concern the US will crumble BECAUSE you cannot be a world leader or even part of the groupd of leaders when your country does not accept access to decent Health Care is a right not a privilege. It is not just for the rich who can afford to pay NOR for those who play the system by using the Emergency Room Hospital as there sole access thus contributed ZERO. Health Care is EVERYONE'S responsibility AND the only way it is substainable is if EVERYONE contributes. The constitution was perhaps beneificial when it was written, who could have predicated the extended life span, medical breakthrus, 300+ million people etc. etc. For those against the law, I wish they could experience what is like to live without fear of loosoing your coverage and access to medical care for yourself, loved ones, neighbours, fellow citizens. Those who believe that medical care in Canada is somehow restricted, poor quality or in any way less accessable that in the US are so misinformed. ( The rucus that was casued by our US relatives when our daughter came back to Canada to have her baby was mind boggling. you would have thought she was going to a 3rd world country BUT..she came back because she knew the truth....excellent care, large private room (more like a hotel suite with every modern convenience and treatment on hand), hand picked Dr., gualified nurses., etc. etc. all covered under her basic Government health care...at a cost of less the $35.00 per month...becasue we all contribute. Why do we and other modern countires have a longer life span than the US???? because we dont' stress about our health care availabliity as we know its' there when we need it and what we recieve is world class.

    April 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
  245. disappointed

    If it fails, I will look into moving to Canada. Maybe Europe. America will havelost its way and no longer belong to the people.
    There is no security in a country where the government operates independant of its people.
    Austin Texas

    April 2, 2012 at 5:54 pm |