FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty
A dramatic change in the face of the Democratic Party: The New York Times "Opinion Pages" reports that for the first time in next year's election the party will "explicitly abandon the white working class."
This is huge.
According to plans by party operatives, Democrats hope to cobble together a center-left coalition made up of highly educated voters such as lawyers, professors and teachers - along with African-American and Hispanic lower-income voters, according to the Times.
As for whites without college degrees, Democrats are giving up on trying to win a majority, the paper reports. Instead they hope to keep the Republican winning margins to “manageable levels” - less than 15%, according to the Times. In 2010, Democrats lost the white-working class vote by a whopping 30-point margin, according to the paper.
One Democratic analyst told the Times that "the Republican Party has become the party of the white working class."
This is pretty stunning. Republicans were traditionally the party of the wealthy, while Democrats were the friend of the working man.
It was Franklin D. Roosevelt who put together the New Deal coalition that included unions, blue-collar workers, farmers, blacks, people on government assistance and intellectuals without money.
Fast forward to today - it's interesting that at a time when unemployment is holding at 9%, the Democratic Party is choosing to give up on these core voters and go in another direction.
Meanwhile, a recent poll spells trouble for President Barack Obama when it comes to blue-collar Democrats. The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey shows nearly half of all white Democrats with no college education say they don't want Obama heading the party's ticket.
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It means they have NO balls. They need to take their cue from the Republicans ! THEY are standing firm and tall for the wealthy and corporations. Maybe the Democrats are too. Both parties are destroying the middle class. Michael Lewis may be right~WE could be a third world nation within 10 years if our 'leaders' don't get it together and start putting America FIRST rather than their political interests. Shame on everyone of them.
Pretty silly and unnecessarily provocative question. What makes you think they're doing that? What... the DNCC is now at war with unions? There are tons of worthy stories and topics... why not pick one of those?
Clearly, problems that affect millions of Americans will not be addressed, and the people who most need help will not have a voice or any hope for progress. The 99% keeps getting bigger, and it's time for the working class to go join those "smelly hippies", galvanize the Occupy movement, and give it some direction.
You have only two choices, either to vote or not to vote. The outcome will be the same.
It means the Black radical congress has bullied / scared the white women and taken over the democratic party while practicing reverse racism as a means to an end
It means that the administration has given them no hope and change only for the worse. But, this is not a group easily swayed by the villification of class warfare. Better to focus on people who can be manipulated into believing that they are oppressed and exploited. What a guy!!
Working class whites are no longer part of the Democrats constituency. Working class whites realize that the money to pay for all the programs that the Democrats are pushing comes from them but doesn't come back to them. They realize that the Democrats sold them out for Hispanic votes, pharma money and sent their jobs to China. Working class whites woke up to the fact that the Democrats care about them as much as the Republicans do, but at least the Republicans are honest about not caring. When will the rest of America wake up?
I don't know, but I have a new plan. Raise the debt limit to 200 trillion dollars. Rake in as much as possible in the form of Treasury bills, then go bankrupt when you can't sell anymore. Doug. Pepperell, MA.
the only votes the dem. have are the ones that depend on the gov to survive. if they win the next election we all will be on gov help-
It means their support from that group, is waning. it means they are unable to continue their charade of being for the "little guy", when in fact they are costing the little guy more and more, as they grow their dictatorship in this country.
Perhaps people are catching on that re-distribution only serves those selected by politicians and bureaucrats, who shouldn't have the right to re-distribute a thing.
Ron Paul in 2012...
Basically what it means is that the Democratic goal with these voters is to keep Republican winning margins to manageable levels. It is kind of like anything else in Washington Jack. Politicians are a commodity bought and sold to the public by special interest groups. Even they see that the average white worker has no interest in what they are selling so they can do nothing for them. The best they can do is target those they might win favor with. Poor black African Americans and Latinos. Historically they are the largest benefactors of democrat policy so rightfully they should be the target audience for their spiel.
Its the new reverse racist party for illegal minorities
Jack, leave me tell you something, I don't know where your question is coming from. I am a white male and been one for 67 years. After watching the republican debates I realize my best interest is voting democrat. If I was to win the lottery and become a millionaire then I would change my vote, because I would be well taken care of by the republicans. I would have high paid lobbyist representing my interest and would never have to worry about my taxes going up. But being the poor Shmuck that I am I'm better off with the democrats, at least they have some feelings for the working man.
Jack, there is a certain sector of the White population (I'll refer to as the "Foxies") that the Dems (especially the President) couldn't get them to listen to them no matter what they say; even if "The Almighty" personally came to them and told them the Dems were right. I suspect that is the group that feels ignored by the dems and frankly is it worth wasting any effort to reach them? Sounds like you want to feed the polarization issues we have some more, Jack.
It means that they are planning on voting against Obama. Obama will work that Blackberry of his – to the point of where he will have to get a new one, In addition to his vast internet knowledge capabilities.
But one thing is for sure, Jack – The GOP will have the same access and knowledge as Obama's Team will have, as opposed to when McCain was running. McCain was light years behind Obama's Team. This time, The GOP & the Dems will have internet ads / websites like no other campaign ever had, not to mention tv / billboard / newspaper / radio / & the list goes on.
Larry in Texas
It means that white, working class voters are obsolete, and insignificant to the democrat’s socialistic agenda that uses Mexican illegal slave labor activists, and Black Power poor me caucus to define their base!
What does it mean if Democrats give up on white, working class voters?
Why did all the House Democrats (except for about 15) vote for the "bailout" while two thirds of the House Republicans voted against the "bailout"?
Could it be the Democrats have a death wish?
Why did the Democrats make the Health Care Bill in secrecy and use 2,700 pages?
Do the Democrats not care how they are perceived?
I am at a lost!
Perhaps, the Democrats need a totally and completely new leadership!
Jack, the answer to your question is actually a question itself: "Would you like fries with that?"
I don't think they are, especially if Biden has anything to say about it. I suspect that white working class voters are giving up on them, mostly due to coalition politics involving the teachers union which have as much to do with abortion politics as education. The whole gay rights thing also enters into it, as white working class voters tend to be a bit intolerant on this issue.
It means big money owns them too.
democrats are not giving up on white working class voters. we all are in the same boat . this is some republican bander that we all hate and can see clearly
Maybe because the white working class has given up on the Democrats, who threw their platform out the window for the big bucks that come with kissing up to the monied interests. We need some new parties.
Where are you getting this from? I am a white working class voter and there is no way I would vote for any Republican because I have no chance of staying working class. I know the economy is bad but I think a lot of us realize that it is not all Obama's fault against the party of no. If working class people don't see that the only objective of the Republicans since 2008 is to get Obama out of office, regardless of how it affects the country, they are being brainwashed. The worse condition the country is in the worse it makes Obama look, but they could have done things to help us instead of themselves. If they are elected they will not help us just Grover and buddies.
"WE" are 'no longer' the silent majority...because we've been silent 'we' are now the silent (minority). Yes, 'we' still carry the weight of the goveronments overspending but that too will soon cease, 'we've been sapped to the point of no return. How they're going to get along without "US" will soon be their major problem, so they better figure out a way to spend less! Money doesn't grow on trees like congress thinks it does – how would they know the difference – they've never had to work for a living – but their day is coming! It's much easier to spend money that's not yours than it is to work and earn it!
Where does the NY Times get off making such a statement? Operatives of the Democratic party? WHo? Secondly, the Repulicans are now the party of the white middle class? Beware of all that Kool Aid. The Republicans are all about cash. Most politicans are all about cash. They both may ignore the middle class, but to abandon is to lose.
I'm worried about the Democratic analyst who says the Republicans are the party of working class whites. Is that person on drugs, wildly drunk or certifiably insane? That's like chickens being the biggest fans of Colonel Sanders.
Dear Jack: The Democrats are only reading the future. In 2041, the caucasian peoplle will become minorities in their own country. The old U.S.A. The blacks and the latinos and the hispanic will be in the driving seat and the Democrats will be after them to vote their way. The white people will not be very important at all. And the Democrats are already drooling fot their new voters. As for the Republicans, goodby, goodby. Unless the whites vote very big.
It means that the Democrats are going after the voters that are on public assistance, low class workers, minimum wage workers, blacks , latinos, illegal immigrants, and any other underprivileged voters including the whites in that category, plus the union members. .
All the remaining with their taxes, have to support those mentioned above.
The number of the underpriviledged is exceeding the honest hard working class. .
Seems to me to be a pretty stupid move, if true. If any party or candidate is to succeed they must appeal to the broadest possible constituency.
If the white working class voter goes majority Republican, he's shooting himself in the foot. If he keeps up with politics at all, he would know that the GOP policies leave him still paying an unfair proportion of taxes, and facing much more restrictive health care, while rich people get all the breaks. Perhaps when the Obama campaign appearances and advertising really start in earnest, some of them will change their minds.
You gotta follow the politics. Democrats don't need the white working class vote, or only need about 8% of it. The rest they will get from among the 50-million seniors, and from the blacks, hispanics, women., and other minorities.
It mmeans they should get and read, "Voting for Dummies." Doesn't Obama's fighting for the American Jobs Act mean anything to them? Do they support the Republican'sworking let the FICA tax cuts expire while the Democrats are fighitng for an extension? Do they really believe the Republicans consider them political equals to the one percenters? What Naivete!
Ya gotta Republicnas credit for one thing, though. The certainly know how to make peole vote aganst their own self interests.
It ever fails to amaze me how Republicans have this knack for
It means that we have two major parties both of which have indentured servitude to corporate America. It means that in order for us to get out of the quagmire we are seemingly stuck in, we need to create a viable independent alternative. Maybe this could be the ace in the hole for the Occupy crowd–that they should raise candidates who have the capability of being able to dethrone both major parties.
It's counter intuitive. Not too long ago most African Americans were members of the GOP – "The Party of Lincoln". And most white working class voters in the South were Democrats LBJ lost them by forcing the 1964 Civil Rights Act through Congress. Now we have a demographic of blue collar white voters which are under educated and ideological. Perfect storm for a conservative ideolog. But remember: "Ideology is the science of idiots". I just hope we can weather the storm
I don't know if I even believe this poll. I, along with every white middle class, college or not, person I know, am the exact demographic that you say is abandoning Obama. We're profoundly disappointed in Obama for playing footsie with the boneheads that handed him this mess, but being a register Rep half of my life, there is absolutely no scenario that would drive me to pull the R lever in the foreseeable future. Forget class warfare, that would be class suicide.No matter what your poll says, I still believe Americans are smarter than they look. 2010 was just a no-show on the left. 2012 is looking like a potential passion play to me.
Jack: The Democrats are not giving up on any voting group. The Democrats are the party of inclusion, and not just some rich boys club like the Republicans. Democrats want all voters this coming Fall 2012. To exclude anyone is stupid politics, and the Democrats are not stupid. Jack, this question is below your very good standard, but then everyone can have a bad day. Ask Herman Cain!!!
Sadly and unforgivably Jack it means maintain power at all costs. Never mind the country is in the worst shape since the great depression. It would seem they are only interested in maintaining power and continuing to force their socialist views down the public's throat. The republican party isn't perfect by far but at least they still listen to the people and try to do something positive. Many of our elected officials have been corrupted by greed and lining their own pockets with insider deals and will do whatever it takes to keep filling their personal coffers. Meanwhile they are killing the goose that laid the golden egg, middle class America.
Randy Tinsley, Hampton, Virginia
It means they are not as ignorant as the Demos think they are.... The Obama administration prefers to associate with "celebrities", bankers and Unions..... When are the 99% going to wake up and see Obama for what he really is?
I guess it means that the white working class firmly believes that if Republicans lower working class wages, leave them without medicaid or social security when they get old, and keep shoveling money to the rich they will eventually give jobs to the working class.
How much of the working class is white now, anyway?
The Democrats know that WHITE Americans have finally figured out that the Party of FDR and JFK only wants to pander to blacks, hispanics and the poor in order to stay in power. The Dems have no desire to actually improve the lives of Americans, White or Minority, and Whites know that now and Obama's Presidency should prove it to minorities as well!
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll shows half of all white Democrats with no college education say they don't want Mr. Obama heading their party's ticket.
That pretty much says it all.
It means that what we’ve known all along is, in fact, true – both Democrats and Republicans serve different masters than us, greed and wealth. That, frankly, means that they have broken their oath of office and are not serving their constituents, and by extension, their country. Through legislation, they have systematically favored the wealthy buy tilting the playing field and changing the rules of play to the detriment of the rest of us. But all that is logical. With so many of us unemployed for so long, they don’t have a prayer of getting our votes. We need to clear the slate and start over, but this time, playing by the original rules set out by our Founding Fathers. They were a much wiser lot than the fools that govern us today. Under Jefferson’s, Washington’s et. al. guidance, our country grew from an upstart to the greatest nation the world has ever known. Look at us now.
It means that the Democrats have given up on the middle class. They appear to be buying into the GOP rhetoric that if you don't have a college education, you can't possibly be a liberal. This really chaps my behind. You don't have to have a college education to be a thinker and a doer. No offense my friends with masters degrees and Phd's, but if the Dems abandon their traditional base for eggheads, they are done for and so are the rest of us. Might as well just elect a philandering CEO to be President.
You can not tell the white American that having 12 million illegal live and work in this country is added value, If they have a job they are taking a job away. If they work for less they bring down wages , if they have no health insurance than the government picks up the tab. If their children go to public school then government picks up the tab. America is going bankrupt , If America busness can not move to Mexico than just bring Mexico here.
It means they are stupid and they must want to lose. I still don't see how they will as the Republican field is the worst it has ever been.
Republicans have spent billions of dollars over the last few decades convincing Americans that wealth trickles down from the top. This, of course, is not true – never has been true, and never will be true – but truth is of no concern to power seekers. A whole lot of people (including democrat leaders) unfortunately believe these lies and subscribe wholeheartedly to reaganism – I call it "faith" since there is absolutely no basis for this belief except the manipulations of money to make more money. I keep waiting for the politician who will ask for proof, and who will deny the trickle-down myth once and for all. Until that time comes very many misled, misguided Americans will persist in their "faith" and keep voting for the gang of thieves.
It is not the Democrat Party that has abandoned the middle class at all, Jack. The propaganda has won the day and the middle class will continue to commit suicide by electing reaganists and "conservatives" until the great depression returns. I am looking for a party to support that denies supply-side economics and the false trickle-down myth. If you see on somewhere please let us all know.
It means that the Democrats have come to the conclusion that they can't sell Socialism to those who are willing to work, find work, and assume personal responsibility for themselves and their families.
Roy, Jax FL
It means that too many white working class Americans watch FOX and then vote against their economic interests.
The Democratic Party is making a HUGE mistake. And it shows that I made the right decision when I chose to not be a Democrat anymore since they are abamdoning people like me. Hoepfully a party will come along that I can belieive in. I haven't seen it yet.
It means as of now many of us are still listening to Limpbough and O'Really. That won't last. When election time comes, people will stop ranting and start looking toward solutions. Funneling the national wealth to the rich has been a solution only for Republican campaign contributions. Not for America.
The Democratic Party is making a HUGE mistake. And it shows that I made the right decision when I chose to not be a Democrat anymore since they are abandoning people like me. Hopefully a party will come along that I can believe in. I haven't seen it yet.
The democrats are rolling the dice and will lose even more ground in 2012. The sad thing is that the GOP, AKA Gouging Ordinary People is still the party of the rich and have sold a bill of goods to the average Joe or Jane. Get ready for more tax cuts for the "Job Creators" who don't create anything and even higher unemployment, ie a Major Great Depression.
It means the GOP/Tea Party has won. They have NO'd him into irrelevance which is a reflection on the voting public, and the President, to let them get away with bullying us. If anyone thinks the pathetic clown act the GOP is parading around is good for America and the middle class, we have really been brainwashed.
It means that they are the Party of Class and Race Warfare. They are trying to pull the country into Socialism, where those enslaved on the government handout Plantation outnumber those who work for a living. Hopefully minorities who don't want to remain on the Plantation will see through their ploy.
It means either one of three things: Either the political strategy is wrong or the Koch brothers unlimited money,and the ads produced by the thievng Chamber of Commerce, Crossroads GPS et al have successfully convinced white working class voters to vote against their own interests. Pretty obvious that the Republicans are only the party of the 1%, the religious fanatics, and corporate interests. The third thing it could mean is that the white working class voters are uninformed, disinterested, or just plain stupid. As proud a tradition as the working class has, that is pretty sad.
Jack, how about lightning it up once in a while?
Chia pets is again advertizing the Obama chia pet-damp'n it's head and it grows grass.
Why not ask viewers if Obama should let his hair grow until after the election?
Could it be because so many of them are without a job? I don't blame this on President Obama. This is something in the making for many years caused by the greed of corporations and their big shot executives sitting behind a desk making deals to send our jobs overseas to line their own pockets. Those who do have jobs are given part-time work with no benefits.
If we could find any party that is more concerned about doing what is best for Americans than what is best for themselves, then these idiotic demographics and studies would be worthless.
All this is is a work around to cram down their absolute ideologies instead of changing to what the people want, and both parties do this, how disgusting we have become.
Guess what? I've given up on the corrupt Democrats and corrupt and worthless republicans as well!!
Jack when the analyst writes that "the Republican Party has become the party of the white working class." He must be crazy there has never been a day when the Repubs are in it for anything but themselves and they are the working class of NOTHING.
It means that the Democrats are chasing money from the ultra rich the way their friends across the aisle are. Sad. In fact quite sickening. Wonder what immigration laws are for immigration to Canada?
That's a risky strategy. As a member of the "wealthy class", he's lost me too.
It means something that I have known for years. The two party system is a waste of time since 80% of the voters don't know what they are voting for. The solution is simple. Pass a single piece of legislation that sets a guideline for the congress to follow. The guidelines must include policies that provide for everyone and target problem areas like the homeless, hunger, health care, education, and a move toward a middle class standard of living for everyone. Our current two party system is dominated by liars who have a vested interest in the policies they pass and our government has been manipulated by right wing gangsters since the Reagan Era began 30 years ago.
What it means Jack, is that all the politicians care about is getting elected one way or another. It doesn't matter if they are Democrats or Republicans. All that matters is win, win, win.
I believe to the New York Times to say the Democratic Party will "explicitly abandon the white working class" it an attempt to make the Administrations failing popularity sound like it was a part of some strategic, intellectual plan rather than what it really is "a smoke screen covering a retreat". The facts are clear. The administration is steadily loosing ground in the public opinion pols, and those few people who actually watch other news networks can see that even the "center-left coalition of highly-educated voters" are now saying that "this dog won't hunt". And, where is Hollywood these days? What does it mean Jack? It means that it is looking more and more that there will be a change in the White House beginning 2013.
It means that the folks in the "middle", soon to be the poverty class as well, have no lobbyists and therefore have no pull in Washington. Working class Americans do not have the means to influence politics because they are too busy trying to survive. Government doesn't pander to those who don't matter. Rob in NC
It means that for the second time in our history the middle and lower classes are enduring, "Taxation without representation." I suggest that the rich read what happened in France when the poor and middle class had enough of the abuse and inequality.
It means the Democrats have finally gotten a clue. Despite the fact that the GOP is for the wealthy and against the working class and the poor, the Republican party has won the white working class vote. The Democrats, instead of wasting time and money fighting the GOP rhetorical machine, has quite rightly decided to encourage its base to get to the polls and fight for what they believe in. The democrat base, mind you, vastly outnumbers the GOP base. In that sense, think this is a smart strategy.
Jack, the 'dumbing down' of America's secondary public educational system combined with the fear tactics/'family values' rhetoric that have long been practiced by the Republican party is the explanation. Talk about how unsafe the world has become, the need to return to a self-reliant system of family values and a gigantic military, sprinkle in some garbage about how some illegal alien has taken his/her job, and some poor fool who can't add past the count of ten without taking his/her shoes off is going to believe it. Personally, I don't buy the rhetoric from either party very much but this is an easy explanation. America needs a third party to represent the people, since both parties have pretty much sold out governing the republic in favor of Greed! Our government has become a plutocracy (reference fall of ancient Greece and Roman Empire).
If the republicans want to run on economic issues, it won't matter at all, but they really don't want to run on economics. The closer we get to election, the more Republicans will talk about gay marriage and abortion etc.. If the party of the 1%, Republicans, want to talk about economics they'll have, as Ricky Ricardo used to say "a lot of explain' to do", because Republicans are clearly not on the side of the average American or as they are now known, the 99%.
Jack,How sad,it means that they are giving up on America.Remember Jack,this country is the new idea and creative capitol of the world.If they are giving up I guess they do not want to enjoy the reward of the future that I know in time
this country will bring.It does look grim now watching our own congress throwing away our nation but I know for sure
we WILL come back.........................absolutely and the people will make that happen...........
PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP !!!!!
I think you have it all wrong. If the Republican candidate is Herman Cain, a Mormon, or an advocate of free trade agreements (outsourcing) , Obama wins. For the most part, the white working class voter won't support Cain because of the affairs allegations and since a large part of the white working class are christian right-wingers, a Mormon ain't going to cut it. Fact is the Republicans are in trouble, the rest of their field has so much adverse baggage, 2012 is probably going to be good for the Democrats.
It means the dems have been bought out by wall street. Obama and the dems know the blacks, hispanics, and labor unions will vote for them no matter what they do. More wars, more tax breaks for the rich, more ceo bonuses, more job outsourcing, more illegal workers, and more job killing trade deals seem to be ok with the donkey voters.
As a teacher, I am confused as to why ANY politician on EITHER side believes we will vote for any of them. We are sick and tired of both sides telling us how they will help only to cut funding, add more work to our jobs in the name of accountability, and then tell us what a lousy job we do. I can find very few teachers who believe the government works for them or any other "regular American" who doesn't make $500,000 or more a year. ROB in NC
What is says to me is that the Dems are circling their wagons to protect their hold on their base in the minority voting blocks. If they were in the stronger position they would be trying to expand their support with whites and putting the Repubs on the defensive. But what you see is the opposite (e.g. Newt's moderate immigration stance) which is consistent with the widely held view that the Repubs have the stronger position now and will likely still have it next November.
I'm white, have a college degree, consider myself middle class, am gay, and will not be voting Obama!
They're NOT giving up on them. The places Obama visits and campaigns in should prove that the article is false. But the fact is that the majority of white voters have been voting for Republicans (against their own interests) for many years now. Obama won't give up on them, though, since his policies represent the 99% of us Americans. Hopefully, the "working-class" white voters will realize that soon.
Is this what we've come down to, a fight over the educated? If that is the case, then a third party candidate should be a shoe in because any educated person knows that the Democratic and the Republican politicians only have themselves in their own best interest and the heck with everyone else.
So they are concentrating on low income non-white voters and Liberal elitists with their grand education. In other words, Obama is abandoning the middle class and admitting there's nothing of value in his proposed programs for them. Way to go Obama! Finally showing a ray of truth in your messages.
I'd say the working class whites abandoned the Democratic party, not the other way around. The GOP has convinced the NASCAR crowd that they are working for them, when, in facts, the working man has been fooled by the GOP into voting agains their own best interests. Democrats still stand with labor and those who have chosen not to jump ship.
Allegedly, over 40% of the US population is reported to be receiving some form of government assistance. Since they are getting the ‘free’ benefits, they are relatively happy with how the system is functioning.
The basic philosophy of the Democratic Party seems to be to take from the rich and give to the poor. The really rich have enough loopholes to minimize the taxes that they pay. The liberals and bleeding hearts feel they need to help the poor down trodden and don’t seem to mind paying more in taxes. Hence, the average working stiff becomes the ‘rich’ and gets stuck carrying the bulk of the tax burden. Statistically, these taxpayers are primarily white people. What this means is that the average guy with a job is going to pay a lot in taxes and hence doesn’t want the Democrats to control government.
This is a hypothetical question. I don't think the Democratic Party stalwarts are so dumb to dump an important section of the voters.
Reports??? And where are these "reports" coming from?? Think people......think
Unfortunately the white working class is racist, ignorant, votes against their own interests, and is easily manipulated by AM radio and FoxNews.
Sadly, Jack, it means the Republicans' grand strategy is working. The party is 100% focused on protecting corporations and the wealthy. But since you can't win elections with 1% of the vote, they've brilliantly engineered a takeover of the undereducated white vote... through fear. Fear of socialism, scary black people, scary smart people, or worse, people who are all three. They've managed to scare these poor folks so badly that they now vote against their own interests every time. They actually believe that affordable health care is an evil communist plot. Well done, Ailes and Limbaugh: mission accomplished.
Then why are they writing me every week, state, local and federal democrat party fund raisers, for my support financially? Do you work for the republican propaganda committee. If the Republican party gets the White house we will no longer be free. Not that we are free now. We are free...to be screwed by our own Representatives who accept bribes from corporate America. We will live in a country with fear, profiling, and police states. And the middle class will disappear and the poor will disappear crawling over the borders to Mexico and Canada for jobs and survival. And think of the moral decay and corruption...that will continue. Whoa! is me.
It's so interesting: The white working class are the people most hurt by Republican policies, yet they are brainwashed into believing all the propaganda put forth by the right.
yeah, I thought the Republicans were the party of the rich too. Does this mean I have to reconsider my party designation for next year's primary?
That they're NOT democrats. That since Teddy passed, Mother Rose's tea-parties are looking for a new, authentic American that Rupert Murdoch and Ted Turner CAN"T delete. Remember the funny 'Ted'-turner from pig-alley?!
Every vote counts or at least should count. To give up on any class or voter is moronic but then again we are talking about politicians, aren't we?
This is huge, Jack. But it makes sense. the left leaning democratic party only exploits the poor and the minority for their votes anyway. the working class knows how an economy works and their knowledge makes them less susceptible to being fooled where the ignorant left is ripe for exploitation. They won't know any better and the DNC can lure them into their plantation too. It's the only strategy the DNC has ever known.
It means exactly that enough of the blue collar workers have figured out that the Democrats game is to continually stick it to them in the form of higher costs and taxes. It won't take long after before other working class people figure out the game as well, so Democrats are trying to shore up voter blocks. It is a shame that Democratic politicians only see groups and not people. It will be their downfall.
I do not believe this statement. it just shows the fourth seat of power is trying to confuse the voters. you must think that the white working class is dumb and can be lead by the republicans with no problem. hang your head in shame for your misstatements.
I do not believe this is an accurate story. The Ohio Democratic Party just demonstrated with great authority with the defeat of Senate Bill 5 that, as part of a coalition of unions, the white blue collar workers are a powerful political. And, to be repetitive, they are Democrats.
Jack, That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard all day–and all the "anonymous" attributions in your essay make me think you are reading from a new Republican playbook. Give up the working class? When the two GOP frontrunners are worth over $200 million and never saw a tax cut for the rich that they liked (or an unemployment, social security or Medicare check they would happily sign?) "Class warfare" does NOT mean ceding the election to the party of the RICH!!!!
Jack, im a 22 year old white american. I believe that Obama is trying to do the right job by helping us live a better life than our parents and grandparents. But what can we do with these idiotic republicans trying to hurt the American Dream. I believe 2012 will be a Democratic House and Senate.
It means the party if finally coming to their senses. If President Obama walked on water those same white voters would say it is because he can't swim. Racist white voters will never respect of vote for a responsible smart black man.
To answer your question, Jack, it means that they'll no longer be Democrats...they'll be Republicans.
What do you expect. Obama is the most divisive President for decades. He just doesn't know how to be inclusive...
What this means is that the Democratic party is shifting base to Blacks and Latinos; the party is tired of the extreme conservative whites as they seem not to get the fact that the Republican party has no concrete agenda for the nation however, Obama may have problems getting the votes of some unemployed educated blacks and Latinos. Such people are frustrated and unhappy with the state of the economy and would rather not vote for either party.
It means they can no longer deceive someone with a brain who can think for themself.
It means they are a racist party. Anyone who agrees with this strategy is a racist. No grey area here.
Reagan "I didn't leave the Democratic party, they left me."
Anyone reading between the lines? The "Parties" will only go where they think the votes are, much like a prostitute only works busy streets.
Greetings from Sudbury Ontario Jack. Like any business would do, the democrats (no capital used on purpose) are just looking out for their own best interests ($). They realize that the "White working class" is a shrinking demographic, and they should know, since they were responsible for much of the "shrinking". Don't worry though, I suspect that both the democrats and republican parties would still do quite well financially even if no citizen gave them a cent.
I am not trying to come off as disrespectful to your country, but this system that you have where everybody is constantly in election mode does not seem to be working. It seems that nobody wants to make decisions, and that nothing is being accomplished. There are some pretty enormous issues facing both of our countries, and would it not be nice to have a Leader in charge, somebody that was not preoccupied with re=election ? Just consider me a concerned neighbour.
Have a great day.
It means the democratic party has finally accepted the reality that the republican with their anticipated, SCOTUS approved, anonymous, massive spending will again succeed in deceiving and brainwashing this demographic to vote against their own self-interest to enrich the republican's power base – large corporations and the wealthy
It is humorous to see that several of your readers still hang onto the 1 and 99%.lines. If they only knew the truth about the original intent of OWS.
I can promise you. Vote Republican and they will finish the job they started under Bush; wipe out the poor and middle class. They have demonstrated this through the Govs. of Wisc., FL, OH and KS just to name a few.
Jack, I don't think there is much left of white, working class Americans. However, the poverty class has grown, enormously. I think the Democrat Party is right to appeal to the less wealthy Americans.
I believe the logic behind the decision comes from Heinlein: "Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig." White blue collar workers have to some degree adopted an instransigence about the Democratic Party founded on fear and resentment, based in large part on propaganda from the Right. It is sad to watch them consistently vote against their best interests while being cynically delivered into economic serfdom. I've had countless conversations with friends and family in this group; when you start presenting them with verifiable facts that refute their cherished misconceptions they shut down and won't listen. I'm not sure what it will take to shake some of them loose. I fear it will have to be something that hurts all of us.
As a career military man, a strategist doesn't "give up" on an objective. The Democrats may have shifted their "focus of effort", but that does not indicate that they have "given up" on the white working class. Verbage says a lot more than you think. Jack, are you trying to spin this?
It means the NYT is still publishing a little more than is fit to print. Democrats abadoning the working class would be like Republicans putting the Tea Party up for adoption.
Both parties are abandoning the backbone of America for selfish, greedy reasons. Once the backbone is gone, the support is gone and the entire system collapses.... Obama is Soros's puppet, that that's what he has planned all along.. It's all falling right into place. Hold on tight. We're in for the ride of our lives....
I don't think it's the Democratic Party that is giving up on the white working class, they're just being realistic, That group didn't much support then Senator Obama in the last election. Also, I think it's the white working class giving up on the Democratic Party. It happened before, when Lyndon Johnson put forth the Civil Rights Act. The white working class/blue collar fled like there was a wild fire on the horizon. It's reality, hence the vicious, vile name-calling of President Obama.
It simply means that Faux News is winning. Giving the economy and the Republican's spin, no wonder.
Look at wisconsin and ohio, where working class voters had to hold elections to get rid of republicans and their policies, just months after electing them into power.
It means if working class whites haven't learned by now that voting against their own best interests isn't good for the middle class, they'll never learn. Better to go for the voters that know better.
It means they're ignorant. The blue collar working class, that is. They are fodder for the GOP to shake, rattle and roll, as in deploying misinformation and scare tactics to get their votes. A lost cause I daresay. So, what's new?
Instead of betraying their base of voters why don't the Democrats put up a different candidate more reflective of the voter's desires. The politician should represent the people not the people representing the politician.
Take the 50% of Democrats, the 35% of the nations voters, 'Independents', and create what we have needed for a very long time, a third party. The National Independent Party maybe. Oh what wonders they might accomplish. A government that just might function.
Klamath Falls, OR
When Democrats specifically back policies that benefit the white working class such as extension of the payroll tax cut, extension of the Bush tax cuts for the white working class but not for the millionaires, and a host of other issues like supporting public education, then it is not correct to say that Democrats are abandoning them. Rather, it appears that the white working class has abandoned the Democratic Party. The real issue is why? Why does the white working class have loyalty to the Republican Party when Republicans have proved over and over that they will screw the working class at the expense of corporate interests.
It simply means that the Democrats are doing what their Republican opponents have
been doing in catering to the affluent, people who send checks. The jury is still out,
the vote gets cast on the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November, 2012.
It means that the Obama administration is smart enough to realize that constituencies today are more dynamic than ever, and that instead of trying to appeal to a segment of the elecorate among whom poll numbers are dropping, securing the necessary amount of votes among other populations would prove a more fruitful endeavor this go around. This strategy may be a bit short-sighted though, and the administration should be prepared to deal with the future reprocussions.
It means the Dem Party has finally realized that the majority of the people they are trying to help the most; are working against them. Individuals following their religious ideaologies and falling prey to political rhetoric and lies from the internet and some media outlets; have brought this country to a hault. Any working class inidividual who believes the Republicans are their friend – will soon find out how alone they really are.
You question "Baits" race and is nothing more than encouraging more division in this country. When I raised my hands to defend this nation over 18 years ago I would do so regardless of ethinicity but of the commonality that we are all Americans of many different social, religious and economic backgrounds. You question this hour is disappointing and disheartening of a nation in the 21st century still thinking along these lines. You ought to think about retirement because you are out of touch!
It means that President Obama and his staff are realistic about future voters. The white male in America today is a confused minority and they don't know who to blame for their downgrade in status.
Laith F. Gulli
As a teacher and a moderate, I will be casting my vote for moderate candidates who take SANE positions on green energy, the overwhelming scientific data supporting climate change, a woman's right to choose, informed foreign policy, and the future of education. Right now, it looks like I'll stick with Obama or support someone like Huntsman. Democrats know that the average blue-collar worker has been DUPED into voting against his or her economic interests. All the Republicans had to do was hijack religion and attach Jesus to everything they wanted to achieve out of greed. Thanks to my husband's salary, I'm in the 1%, yet I am willing to pay more taxes if needed. Looks like if the Republicans have their way, I won't have to.
It means that they realize that America's face is changing. It means that the Tea Party has embraced the white, under-educated voter and that Rush Limbaugh and Grover Norquist tell these people when and how to jump. They are not votes that the Democrats need to win and as a party-they are working to build a future........not embracing the old ideas of the past. Sad, but true-these voters don't embrace new ideas or people of color. Let the Tea Party and the Republicans have them. I am a white college graduate and I was so proud to see our country elect a President of color. This crowd is still ashamed and angry about it. Let them vote with the party of the past.......They don't represent the America of the future.
It's all about winning and not about staying true to their values. You can't blame just democrats here; politicians in general are just bad news. They see nothing wrong with buying/selling stocks for companies they are passing legislation on. What makes you think they see anything wrong with this?
To me it means the death of the party! The white middle class have been the back bone of the party since it was formed n with out them it will crumble n fall just like the rest of the world is doing!
Little do they know. The GOP will make slaves out of the working class someday.
What an inflammatory article? so, 50% of uneducated white american democrats dont want obama to head the ticket. But that means there are 50% of white democrats that do. Stop it racists, no one wants a race war. We are all democrats. Its there right to want someone else to head the ticket. Doesnt mean anything about these people except that they want someone else. The fact that most are undereducated (by today's standards) does give you pause though.
And, by all the racist comments (sorry, i didnt know that since because i was black i was 1) uneducated 2)living on govt assistance 3) racist against whites) but according to these commenters (who are rather bigoted themselves) I guess i am...who woulda thunk it?
They (both parties) are giving up on us, because the American middle class is now the minority.
They are going after the new majority of voters which, sadly, is now the illegal alien vote in this county.
Jack – I don't know how valid your information is, since even Republican working people I know would not vote for anyone in the Republican camp. I know a lot of working people...mostly blue collar and they feel a vote for any Republican is a death-wish for the American dream.
I think it means more of the same from Democrats. So-callled intellectuals, college prefessors and tree huggers who never had to meet a payroll try to keep control by telling the ethnics and races that Valhalla is still here if the Dems stay in government so the sopending will continue. Obama has more non-business hangers-on than any president in recent history. Let them make their changes. I thing the middle class will be able to see through this ruse.
It means that the Republicans have been successful in their campaign to brainwash the uneducated blue collar worker that they, (the Republicans), are really, really, really the ones who are for the working class. It amazes me how so many working people have been indoctrinated into voting and working against their own interests in this country. When a minimum wage working individual can stand and straight-faced tell me it's great to be in a right to work state, (happened over this last Thansgiving weekend in Arizona), I am flabbergasted, This country is in it's final throes of being a great nation when it's citizens can so blighly go tripping off after their rich overlords hailing them as they go.
It means that Americans are waking up to see that the government programs have gone too far and Americans are fed up with their reliance on the rich and the narrowing idea of innovations as this country turns more and more left. It also shows that the Democratic Party is displaying how corrupt they can be and where their loyalties lie. As more and more people become educated on how little Obama has done for this country for how much they expected, I predict another turn, hopefully towards a good libertarian president.
The Republicans are scaring the white working class by telling us that the "gubmint" is too involved in our lives. Republicans claim that the government should not be regulating businesses or deciding whether we can carry a concealed weapon, or making health care decisions for us. Unfortunately many of the white working class buy into that line of malarky, so the Democrats are probably smart to concentrate on people who still use their brains.
Thomas, Oceanside, California
If indeed the democrats have given upon the white working-class vote, it likely means that the democrats have concluded a large segment of that demographic places a greater emphasis on their cultural interests than they do on their economic interests. Further, a winning coalition can be formed without an overwhelming participation of that group. America has changed, Baby!
Run that by me again Cafferty, on what do you base this Bogus conclusion to your Bogus question?
I'm not surprised - and I am a white "middle class" woman. But, the blue collar types you're speaking of are often part of the group that wants to "take their country" back. THEIR country! and THEY think someone like Mitt Romney, or earlier Donald Trump, has THEIR interest at heart. Well, I say, "go on over there... to the dark side." Join the 1% and see what happens to your retirement, health care and mortgage. I completely understand why the DNC is ready to write them off... they simply cannot be reasoned with.
I am one of these white people you are talking about. I have not given up on the whole democrate party but on Obama. and there is not a Republican I would vote for. so I am out in the cold. We need to find someone that cares about this Country and the people of the USA instead of their own self interest any suggestions.
Who is spreading this rumor? Poppycock! The Democrats may be too inclusive but they are not stupid!
Your question "Baits" race and is nothing more than encouraging more division in this country. When I raised my hands to defend this nation over 18 years ago I would do so regardless of ethinicity but of the commonality that we are all Americans of many different social, religious and economic backgrounds. Your question this hour is disappointing and disheartening of a nation in the 21st century still thinking along these lines. You ought to think about retirement because you are out of touch!
Shame on you Cafferty... This question was designed to bring division among the people, a totally different stance from the Previous Obama Administration during the first election. Until President Obama comes forward and I hear the words coming out of his mouth, that he has chosen to divide the people who placed him in the white house in the first place, then I will personally rewrite the meaning of the word CHANGE...
Dubious assumption, Jack; I doubt the Dems are giving up on the white working class, but it may not be wasting much time on the 'know nothing' vote which long ago headed in the other direction to find a comfy berth within the GOP.
Duh! I they just realizing now that they are in no position to "give up" on anyone? Everyone has already given up on them, and the GOP as well, except of course for the rich special interests and die hard political junkies. Haven't they heard of Independents? Congress is out of control. The Fed is out of control, the whole country is on the brink of disaster, and they are so disillusioned to think they can give up on a segment of the voting population? This would be too funny if it weren't so sad. Someone needs to get the message to all incumbents to start planning a career change, and no, lobbying IS NOT an option. JMHO.
I think it means that the democratic party has wisened up to the fact that working class white voters gave up on them a long time ago. White workers like to live in a fantasy world where they don't need a social safety net. They like to sit in front of their plasma and believe that they have more in common with wealthy, white republicans than working class minorities. They don't need to worry about budget cuts to public education because they can afford to send their children to private school. (yeah right) So they will just keep signing up to give the rich tax-cuts and stop funding social programs, because they think that if they pretend hard enough-someday they will be a rich republican too.
I think that Jack's statement in an exaggeration. While it is true tht the republicans have done a masterful job in convincing blue collar whites to vote against their own interest, I don't think that the Demoncratic party has given up on that entire voting block. We all still need coalitions to make things happen.
The administration has been fighting or the working class , since the beginning. It's sounds so crazy to say that the Republicans are looking out for the best interest of the regular working man. The Republicans sold the Nation that they were for the people in 2010 and now we are seeing the results....recalls and anger.
Mr. Cafferty – With all due respect, just exactly is the New York Times claim? To just simply say that they said the Democrats are abandoning the middle class white voter because the New York Times says so is irresponsible reporting. Please fully disclose the text of this reference to the New York Times. I am sure the Democratic Party would like to know as well. The fact is, once middle class white voters realize that Obama is really standing up for them, the Republican candidate – whoever it shall be – is toast. Thank you – most sincerely, Jamison in Austin TX
Jack, this is nothing but accepting the fact that the Democrats have already lost the white, working-class vote. It is a smart move because it focuses on the electorate that will support a more progressive agenda, conserve resources, and produce a majority that will be growing for the foreseeable future.
A year from election day. I doubt that Obama is in a trouble. Senate/Congress is in trouble; they are the ones that make things happen. When nothing happens, no one attacks the president: ie: second George W. Bush election. No one is going to want any of the Republicans running. And people saying Republicans are tougher. If stupid equals strength then YES they are – they are antiquated and the population of the U.S. is proving to be too much for traditional GOP to keep up with. They don't the subterraneans. The GOP is lost, so is the Democrats but people see the word democracy in the word democrat.
This truly signals a loss suffered by Democrats on the message front... The Republican Propaganda Machine has efficiently eroded the confidence of white blue-collar workers in the Democrat Party to protect the average Joe. Manufacturing jobs are gone and not coming back. Minimum wage has stagnated. When Republican governors and state assemblies are actively targeting unions yet that demographic still thinks about voting Republican, they are definitely winning the media war. Democrats will be forced to reconsider the mantra of common sense & reason and sink to Republicans' level of sensationalism and ethically suspect Congressional procedural tactics.
Jack, you said it best. Fifty percent of working class white said they would not vote for President Obama. It is not because President Obama haven't had a political agenda that address the issues they face, but it's most likely because working class white probably have embedded prejudices stemming for their cultural surroundings. This unconscious prejudice have convinced them that they can't allow a black man (whose political agenda will address their needs), to run this country in the ground. If white working class Democrats have giving up on President Obama, there is nothing he can do to convince them otherwise. The DNC should motivate those who don't have embedded racial prejudice (Blacks, Latinos, and College Educated Whites) to get out to the polls and vote for the President.
Other way around, I think–people of all backgrounds seem to be giving up on the Democratic Party. And why not? It was Republicans of the Bush era acting like Democrats that started the downward spiral of the economy, and the Democrats themselves who've accelerated that trend. It's become obvious that Big Government, regardless oft he name of the party endorsing it, ultimately suffocates the economy and society forced to pay for it.
I am white and reasonably middle class.
I believe you might be more intellectually honest if you said they were abandoning white manual laborers.
Working Class white are a dying breed. Dems haven't written them off they just realize that they can't win a majority of these folks. Cafferty has simply made this realithy into an issue of abandonment. How rediculus. A majority of white working class haven't voted Democrat in decades. Since Reagan. I don't see this as even news worthy.
This is purely a loaded, and politically polarizing question Jack. You figure to polarize the white middle class by telling them they are being 'abandoned' by Democrats. Thus, pushing them towards the Republican Party. Nobody wants to be abandoned! And I disagree with the survey as well. It should have also asked 1) Are you Republican or Democrat? And 2) Are you a member of, or agree with the Tea Party views? You have to know who your asking the question to. The white middle class are Republicans, Democrats, and Independents. To try to tie them all together as one group being 'abandoned' is misleading.
I am concerned with your statement "This is pretty stunning. Republicans were traditionally the party of the wealthy, while Democrats were the friend of the working man.".
I believe that is a false percieved notion, Republicans have been and for the most part been the party of freedom and personal responsibility. More and more people are starting to see that as more and more petty legislation is passed throughout the nation. Take recent bans on Trans Fats or Zero Tolerance rules in our schools, these are both great examples of Democratic Liberalism taken too far.
It's said the jobless don't vote.
Unemployment isn't at 9% because of Americans got jobs. It's because they've been removed from the Labor Force.
"Didn't know they were? (Hope you got paid for yesterday.) But as for this question, I suppose it's as I stated months ago, and this party is going Black!!."
People – If your among the people who believe that the Rebulicans are the "party of the rich", I'd invite you to consider that you're stupid. I don't mean that as an insult. I mean obviously some people are less intelligent than others, and if you believe their are enough rich people in ths country to fill up a political party you're probably well below average intelligence.
The way the two parties market themselves, the Democrats promise to work for equality of outcome, while the Republicans espouse equality of opportunity. In reality both parties are controlled by the same puppeteers who control the government (how could it be any other way?). The more gov't you vote for, the more gov't control.
This was supposed to be a country of limited gov't. A gov't with unlimited powers, regardless of how or where derived, is by definition fascist. And fascism is definitely on the rise.
I am not surprised. In this part of the country during election time, we hear "If we get a Democrat for president, we will have to lay off people". Underhanded but it works!
It means the Obama Campaign can do simple math- there will be a lot less white working Americans this election-may as well go for the majority vote.
The reason that the Democrats are giving up on 50% of the un-educated white working class is that that demographic is composed of morons who won't comprehend the complexities of the issues we currently face. Anyone who considers FOX as credible probably falls into that category. Best to write them off and not waste resourses. "Corporate personhood" has not exactly been pumping funds into the Democratic party.
It means a third party is finally possible.
The white working class doesn't vote Democratic so whats the point of trying to get them on board? They lack the education to comprehend good policy decisions and are derailed by Republican buzz words like "gays in the military" and "socialist agenda".
That's odd. I'm white, working-class, without a college degree and the GOP ideals still make my eyes roll. Apparently the pollsters forgot to ask me. I suppose most non-degree holders have a tendency toward black & white thinking, while the Democratic party and I acknowledge the obvious presence of gray within modern day issues.
Looking at it from afar, it would seem the Republicans have convinced this group (blue collar whites) that the Democrats are planning to take away their path to riches. When they really should be looking out for their current self interest. Somehow the idea that supporting lower tax rates for the high income earners will show pay back to this group has taken hold, shifting the voting dynamic. If they really understood that 40% of their tax payment pays interest not services, they might not be so inclined, that's what it took in this country to right the ship.
Where does some idiot journalist come up with this statement? Obama has been standing in front of bridges, roads and schools for the last 8 months pressing Congress to pass his jobs bill!!! His jobs bill is targeted to help rebuild the country's infrastructure. Obama has been talking in front of unions. Are you saying that no white working class voters in these crowd? Are you saying that no white working class people would benefit from Obama's jobs bill? his payroll tax cuts? His health care reforms? His reforms for Wall Street? His stimulus plan?
david from michingan. jack i am a 61 year old life long democrat and former business owner. i really think i am going to vote republican in this next election but not because i like the direction the republicans have pushed us into going back as far as "supplyside economics in the 1980s. i am now thinking about the future of my grandchildern who are 7 years old and younger. i think if we let the republicans run this country to its knees a little faster than they are now my grandchildern might enjoy a working life run by democrats when they rebuild this country.
Not for long. Once the working whites realize that the Republicans are still pushing Reagan's trickled on...I mean trickle down economic fallacies...I mean policies...and they realize that the only way to claw their way back to the middle is to defeat the Republicans (or worse the Tea Partiers) they will come back to the Democrats. And I don't think it will be very long unless the Republicans can manage to keep em drinking the koolaid.
who are the real blue color democrate anyway.oooop"! are you talking about clown like Ben Nelon of Nebrasa or Joe Libberman of Ct.. For your info's, these clown democrates were not democrates at all in the very first place. They are just bunch of wind drivens. Blue democrates votes with real democrates when they think democrates have advantage, but stab democrates at the back, when there is disillusion within the party. Example, 2010 midterm election. So, these bunch of lossers will not affect the general election at all for the DNC or Honarable President OBAMA.
Jack there's something wrong with your question: It's not the Democrats who are abandoning the white working class: It's rather the white working class that abandoned Obama & the democrats during the 2010 mid-term elections. That's how the intransigent tea-party house of reps were voted in droves & they are now dismantling unions & the rights of working class as they look after the interest of their 1% wealthiest American buddies at the expense of the working class.
Love your show!
-Sam- 'a Canadian Political Junkie from the prairies'.
Aside from the recession the country no longer produces the kinds of jobs that non-college educated whites can fill so I can understand their vaguely focused kind of anger centered on a black presdient, resentful of minorities and immigrants. They need to accept the fact that they have to get edumacated.. The world has changed and we msut change (grow) along with it.
Who cares? Certainly not Democrats or Republicans.
I hope EVEYONE IN AMERICA hears about this and has the brains to read through what is being said here. DEMS just gave up on the middle class. I feel most Americans are awake now more then ever (well, since I have been alive), and I feel they are paying attention. I hope this message is blasted EVERYWHERE and everyone understands what this means..
They're abandoning blue collar whites because they don't listen to NPR.
The new Democrat base: everything that's wrong with America.
Do people even read what you write? I try to... but people are saying you are working for the republican party yet you are quoting democrats.
I don't think I believe this survey, since most democrats I know are white working class people. I think the operative word here is white. working class people in general are not leaving the democrats, though many of them may have stopped voting because they have been let down. if this survey you site is true, perhaps for some voters they identify more with being white than with being working class. Republicans have tried to divide working class people along racial lines for decades. Perhaps its working.
Well, the Democrats must not give up on the majority of the working white class. As the election campaign begins with just one GOP candidate and Mr Obama, this group will realize that the Democrats are their best option.
Well, it is a choice between bad and worse. Worse being repablicans. I will never vote Republican for one simple reason – they are pro-miliatary and pro-war and nothing can compensate for that.
Jack, you can't fix stupid and the people, who believe the right wing's propaganda machines on cable and radio. They go on without challeges from any other news sources for some reason. Democrats will continue to pass laws that benefit the middle-class including them. We just can't count on their support. Yes, they will have it both ways.
From Chris S. Bohemia, NY
It means the Obama Campaign can do simple math, there will be a lot less working white Americans voting this election; may as well go for the majority vote.
Nothing. Given the GOP Congressional leadership's refusal to do anything but follow the Grover Norequist-ian school of Voo-Doo economics, decimate the working class, fuel a perpetual War Economy and whore themselves out to the 1%, Democrats are betting your average working class white guy isn't stupid enough to vote Republican in 2012. I'll take that bet.
Tucson, AZ – The issue you describe is a tactical response to the strategic issue that blue collar whites have become Rush Limbaugh "dittoheads" and have already abandoned many core Democratic principles and ideals. The reality is that current political debate consists of facts on the President's side and fiction on the other. Republican talking points are all lies, half-truths, false premises and invalid reasoning, none of which matter to the blue collar whites who want back the country that we lived in thirty or more years ago, and will not see again. Educated voters know that current Republican positions are all false. Uneducated voters do not want to hear that. It is no use campaigning to win voters who are committed to things that just ain't so when you base your policies in facts, as does this President. Let us hope that there are enough realists out there voting so that a reality based government is elected, unlike another W Bush Administration with eleven initiatives of which nine failed for lack of realism. Mr Obama has in fact been an outstanding success as Commander in Chief and Head of State. Senate Republicans are in fact responsible for his relative lack of success in domestic affairs. The last thing this country needs is more phony "conservatives" in the Rush Limbaugh mold. Honest knowledgeable non-partisan observers blame Mr McConnell, not Mr Obama, for the weak recovery and Senator Kyl, not the Democrats, for the failure of the "Supercommittee." Uneducated whites have no idea how the economy, the government, or the world actually operate, and it is no use seeking their support now for policies they reject out of stubborn ignorance. Right Wing policy about debt, deficits, taxes, defense and trade is just a lot of hooey, but it takes more than a sound bite to demonstrate that, and the target audience is listening only to the other view on the radio. It is a waste of limited campaign funds to persuade an ignoramus of a truth he does not want to hear.
It means only good news for Democrats, Republicans or Independents. Radical events require radical responses. Hopefully on that day the working class will “wake-up” and create a new party who represents its constituents; taking in consideration that the actual front runner parties lack in interest to do something for the people who work hard to push this economy.
I would love to know where you are getting your information. Who told you that the Democrats are giving up on the middle class. The democrats will never give up on the working class in this country. If all the democrats in this country told you this I would believe you, however, those of us in the democratic party have not given up on anyone!
This is the direct result of Johnson's Great Society and War on Poverty. Democrats give them a fish and refuse to demand they learn to fish. Republicans sell them fish at the highest price the market will take. This has resulted in upwards of half of our great country being totally dependent upon government handouts and 400 Americans with greater wealth than the bottom half. Ron Paul is perhaps the only answer.
That is a shame as the only class really represented by the Republican / Tea Party is the very affluent (1%) while they give the majority (99%) only apathy, the costs and an abundance of subterfuge to con the people and manipulate public opinion. As long as the Republicans, with the strong financial, power and influential support of "the few" are successful with their deception then there is no chance of ever getting back the Grande Ole Party with a sincere interest and conscience for the people. They have been emboldened by past successes in the manipulation of the Evangelistic Christian, with the Swift-boat propaganda and with the Tea Party Movement, all being well designed, well directed and well financed manipulations in the same single direction – while being subterfuge that lacked any real benefit for the majority. They have become totally owned and controlled by "the money" and should the voters fail to recognize that, we are very apt to be returned to "more of the same", Bush-Cheney style, which would be a continuation of a catastrophe for the majority.
This means that Democrats have realized the white working class does not recognize the benefits of Democratic policies for them as shown in the 2010 election. The educated proffesionals realize that Democratic policies such as cutting tax loopholes would help the nation as a whole and the African American/Hispanic low-income voters notice that Democrats fight for them more than Republicans do. This new strategy should be effective in such a crucial election in 2012 because the number of educated professionals and African American/Hispanic low-income voters are rapidly growing.
Politics is a numbers game and Democrats play it really, really well. They're actually not as stupid as some perceive them to be. Their losses among white middle class voters in the last election has prompted a serious reassessment, to wit: Forget the middle class whites and focus on our liberal, idealistic composite of teachers, professors, lawyers and our low income supporter of Latinos, blacks and minorities. After all, there are now more of them in the country than ever before so let's get them behind us.
Gary in poor old Scottsdale, Arizona
The real question should be "Why do the Republicans care about nobody but the top 1% and the corporations and have given up all of the rest.us?" Who is this Democrat analyst with no name. This entire story is baloney!!
Democrats have long been frustrated in failing to win the votes of people who should be their natural base. Republicans have cleverly exploited social issues like gays, guns and God (and now the Occupy movement-"Take a bath, hippie") to convince working class whites that they should back a party which cares nothing about their economic well being. The fact that this still works may be leading Democrats to abandon the effort on WCWs and put their efforts with different constituencies.
Giving up on the uneducated that will vote as a block because they can't think for themselves is just good policy. Why waste time on them in 2012? I mean we're talking poor people that complain their factory jobs are gone because they aren't educated enough to do any other job and then vote with the party that supports big business and big bail outs.
Hmmm, maybe one should have a college degree to be able to vote. Then we wouldn't have these problems. Republicans: party of the dumb. That's not something I'd be too proud of. lol
Jack, I think it's been pretty clear for years that the politicians don't care about the white working class.
I sure hope this clears up any doubts that politics isn't about what's good for the country. It's all about class and race warfare. That's where the real money is – fostering passionate, age-old, conflicts to squeeze every dollar out of the hard working people believing their views and ideologies actually matter.
As for me, a white middle class, middle aged worker, I've been disgusted with politics since the advent of Voodoo economics. Yes, voodoo economics. That's where the end result is that the working class can only afford to eat chicken feet.
This is further evidence that the elitist left has completely taken over the Democratic party. It is a recipe for failure because the Democrats need the Centrists if they have any hope of retaining the presidency and the senate.
In the end, it will little matter as this country has reached a tipping point and the slope heads evermore downward. Within a decade or two, the world leaders will be China followed closely by India. The US and Europe will be so hopelessly in deep debt to these two nations that the word 'irrelevant' will not adequately describe our place in the world.
One Democratic analyst told the Times that "the Republican Party has become the party of the white working class." We, the ones that still have a job. Willie Sutton says : you go whre the money is. Ah, yes, the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR !!!
Jack, you can't fix stupid and the people, who believe the right wing's propaganda machines on cable and radio. They go on without challenges from other news sources, for some reason. Democrats will continue to pass laws that benefit the middle-class, including them. We just can't count on their vote. Yes, they can have it both ways. Riverdale, GA.
working class whites are historically very conservative, especially racially. it was only for a short while that they aligned with liberals over unions. but the civil rights movements ended that. these are the so-called 'reagan democrats.'
It's time for a third party, regardless of whether the NYT article is right or wrong. Neither party is serving the needs of the country. Incumbent politicians have only one priority: re-election. All else is secondary. This country is in desperate need of men and women who will put the interests of the country first.
Democrats who want to ride on the Republican luxury train will be able to do it as long as they keep shoveling coal and waiting tables in the club car.
Sounds just about right. The Democrats will target the Liberal elite who want people dependent on the Government so they can be controlled and those that are already under their wing. Just more proof of their desire for no middle class in a Socialist society!
the GOP the party of the wealthy? HA. Most of the democrats in office are millionaires, and most billionaires are democrats
The only difference between the Republicans and Democrats is that the Democrats used to lie that they were for the working man. The Republicans have honestly just hated us for decades.
This is hyperventilation, pumping up a dog bites man story. The assertion that Democrats are 'abandoning the white working class' is based on an opinion piece by Tom Edsall, and not a news report. He argues this based on the work of several Democratic 'operatives' but takes their statements out of context. No Democratic candidate since Jimmy Carter in 1976 has won a majority of the WWC (and Carter did so by dominating in the South). Obama actually won more of the WWC than Gore or Kerry. The Edsall piece and your overheated post are simply putting worst possible face on fact that Obama and other Dems in 2012 will seek to improve on disastrous 2010 mid term performance with WWC (33%) while taking advantage of increased numbers of minority and white with college educations, who will form larger portion of electorate vs. shrinking portion of WWC. To say this is abandoning WWC is silly.
It means the Democrats & Republicans are the enemy of the working class.The only hope the working class has is for the USA to have the same revolts as Lybia, Syria, Egypt had, and to rid our government of our so called leaders.You can push people so far, and then they start pushing back. It is coming, so be prepared.
Well Jack, logically it means that no white working class voter favors a democrat. In conclusion, white working class voters are in favor of candidates who advocate individualism v collectivism; cut taxes to wage foreign wars; privatize entitlements; eliminate the Dept. of Education; oh, and did I forget opposing any type of healthcare legislation, the number 1 driver of our national deficit? The road ahead looks rough if your premise is true Jack.
Warner Robins, GA
The key word is "if". The Democratic Party has had problems in reaching out to the working class in general. The Obama administration has taken the position that Liberals/Progressives and Unions have nowhere else to go. He has surrounded himself with advisers who are wealthy and from Wall Street. Those who are not, such as his Secretary of Labor, appear to be ignored. In that sense he appears to be an elitist. He and many of those who are around him have no idea what it means to be a middle class blue collar worker.
It means that all the Republican effort to stifle the attempts of the Administration and Congress to get anything done for the American people is working, just as they hoped – to make it appear that Democratic leadership is lame. And by ignoring the "uneducated, blue collar voters", as you refer to them, Democrats will simply reinforce that illusion.
Wake up call for blue collar Caucasians: the Republican Party is not, and has never been, your friend. As a group they do not, in fact, care all that much about your values in the social sphere. They use wedge issues like gay marriage and abortion to get you to the polls so they can keep on deregulating everything and giving tax breaks to their rich friends. Blue collar America, the Republicans don't care if you die in a ditch.
Isn't it funny how it nowhere staes that they are targeting groups based on their goals or beliefs, but rather they are going after numbers. They are targeting whatever groups have the numbers to get them elected. Let me repeat myself, they are targeting whatever groups have the numbers to get them elected. This is what this country is coming to, alittle sooner than i thought it would have. By the numbers white working classs is on the way out, and the Democrates are OK with this, as long as they can get the growing groups (non working, system draining, people). They do not care of the character of these people, and will continue to give them whatever they want (at the remaining white working class's expense) to get their vote. People..... I think we have reached a very scary turning point in this countries history. It could be the beginning of the end, if it actually happens!!!!!!
What does it mean? The dems are probably looking at the demographics that say "Whites will be a minority in America in this century". Who cares about us white people when we will not have the most votes. We have educated people limiting the number of children they are having (black and white) but we have non white people from other countries flooding our country. Although 11 million of them are illegal they have found a place where they are able to raise and feed large families and all these children born here will be voters in the not to distant future. I hope writing these facts does not sound racist. I am not.
What the New York Times really meant was Democrats are abandoning gun-toting, Tea-partying, birther, Obamacare-will-kill-your-Granny rubes who would never vote for them anyway.
Jack, The DNC will have better luck if they just go after those listed in the non-working class. Since half of America is unemployed, the strategy and outreach should be aimed at the Whites, Blacks, Latins, etc. non working class...
The blue collar whites are in the same place the blacks mexicans are in. The pajama wearing unemployment line.
Here's the real secret. Listen up. Nixon's Southern Stratagy is starting to work? The Democrat Party no longer represents the common man? A Harvard Education isn't all it's cracked up tp be?
What does it mean if Dems are giving up on white, working class voters? Exactly this:
White, working class voters have given up on themselves. As long as the working class consistently votes against their own self interests, clinging to "traditional" values and their fears instead of they reality that they indeed need protection too (just like other minorities, which they are quickly becoming) they are without hope. Democrats cannot rally a group moved more by fear than logic.
Lawyers – OK, the Trial Lawyers Association supports the Democrats, and they in turn oppose things like tort and malpractice reform, which would benefit everyone but the lawyers. Teachers – OK, they're unionized, and many will follow the unions like sheep. Minorities looking for handouts? Yes, that Democratic territory, too.
But, no one else has any reason to support the Democrats anymore. The core constituency above is all they've got. They've done nothing for the environment, despite their rhetoric. Health care to them means just more government, but don't bother to address the cost problem for the rest of us.
Unlike in sports, you don't get a good draft pick by finishing last, but that seems to be what the Democrats are aiming for.
Just because the white vote isn't the first vote that the Democrats are looking for doesn't mean that they are abandoning them. It did not get much reporting when the Republican party did the same thing when they stop looking for the black votes. So to say that DNCC is not looking for white vote is absurd .I think this question was only asked to cause more controversy in a very boring election cycle.
This is a poor decision. Our politicians should represent all our citizens...or risk alienating them and guaranteeing a move to elect the Republicans.
I don't think this is true. That may have been starting in the 60s when the Dems sided with giving people of color some dignity. But the game has changed. The country has melded together even more so meaning every vote counts.
Any party that gives up even on a portion of today's voters are shooting themselves in the foot. Talk to people, not at people.
I think that this is a bogus story and another attempt by the republican party to further enrage white working class voters, and I think that you should be ashamed of yourself Jack that you are allowing yourself to be a part of this farce.
What this actually means is "the white working class has shown an overwhelming resistance to voting based on logic and rational thought, thus we have no chance of winning their votes without the kind of dogmatic lies Republicans rely upon - and we don't want to sink to that level."
If it came from the Times and has anything to do with politics and unnamed sources, you can be sure the story is misleading at best.
No surprise there! According to the National Exit polls, 55% of all white voters, votedfor McCain & Palin. I think the Obama campain should focus their resources on people who may support President Obama. Unfortunately, they would have to forgo efforts to convince people to vote for our who would never vote for an African-American Democratic president under any circumstances.
What does it mean if Democrats are giving up on white, working class voters?
I don't know where you are getting your information from but the Democrats are the only ones that care about American workers. The Republicans prove daily that they care nothing for American workers with guest worker visas, ignoring illegal immigration, union busting, making corporations 'people', etc..
American workers and those who have lost their jobs because of the GOP who care nothing for them know which party supports them. And that's the Democrats!
I am not buying this......period....Why would we want two Republican Party,s......and who writes this crap anyway?
Your story had me looking at the calendar to see if it was April First. Where do you get this stuff? Fox News? Both parties are skewed toward the 1%ers, but the Repugnants are unabashedly so.
I think they should stop listening to repulbicans and be Democrats.
It means they are admitting to being socialist and that the average working man/woman will not vote for thier agenda
Dems don't need the white working class males anymore, because Dems have America's 52% of households that pay no federal income tax.
Those are the only voters Dems need–until interest rates skyrocket and America's dollars cost more to print than they're worth.
By then, Dems will have sold most of our infrastructure to China–which has stated clearly for the past few months that it only wants to buy the debt of countries that are willing to put up infrastructure as collateral.
China said yesterday that it has several hundred billion to invest in foreigners' infrastructure.
President Obama has said that he wants an infrastructure bank.
Can you add 1 + 1, Jack?
Our corrupt politicians have gotten us so far in debt that they're now selling our infrastructure to foreign companies–just has our natural gas companies and pipelines have had to sell their assets to foreign companies.
Some Dems have said that we all should be learnng to speak Spanish–when we really need to be learning is how to speak Chinese.
I'm confused. Can't a political party 'woo' many different demographics? You know, like trying to represent ALL of the people like they are supposed to be doing instead of special interests.
It means they live in a reality that the minority communities have known for years. Working class whites ARE the very people who vote against their own interest election after election and the problems of the country are a direct result of this ignorance. They have to be hung out and their bones picked dry by their greedy "entrepreneur" class to actually wake up to the reality that it is not the minorities on welfare or Muslims or any other boogie man their overlords scare them with that is the enemy.
Jack, they're not giving up on them entirely. They're giving up on getting a majority of uneducated whites. You're being deceptive and unfair to the Democrats. Again.
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