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May 31st, 2011
05:00 PM ET

When it comes to the war in Afghanistan, how much is enough?

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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

It's coming up on 10 years since we went to war in Afghanistan. The stated purpose at the time was to get Osama bin Laden and the rest of al Qaeda who had attacked us on 9/11. Bin Laden is dead now, and we're still fighting and dying in Afghanistan. The U.S. death toll recently passed 1,500.

In a speech in December 2009, President Obama announced he would begin the withdrawal of U.S. troops in Afghanistan in July 2011. Well, a year and a half has passed, July is almost here, and Americans are waiting to hear his plan.

And pressure is mounting from some unlikely places. House Democrats are becoming more vocal on Afghanistan, pushing for an accelerated withdrawal plan and, according to Politico.com, asking the president to go after a settlement with "all interested parties" to speed up the process. That includes the Taliban.

Only 37% of military members approve of the job President Obama is doing compared to a 48% job approval from Americans who have not served in the military.

We're still in Iraq. We were told we would be in Libya for a matter of a few days; that was more than two months ago.

Afghanistan has never been conquered. Russia gave up after seven years. And everyone else who has ever tried has eventually been forced to leave with their tails between their legs. The Karzai government is a joke, ineffective and corrupt. The schools in Afghanistan openly teach young children how to hate the United States. The population can't read, but they're taught how to hate our guts.

Here’s my question to you: When it comes to the war in Afghanistan, how much is enough?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Mark in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma:
Jack, we went way past "enough" a long time ago! When will these “nation-building idiot leaders” of ours ever realize that we cannot force democracy on a culture that does not even comprehend the concept? Over 6,000 Americans lost in that region of the world. For what?

Gary in Woodhaven, Michigan:
Of all the ideological wars we have gotten ourselves into since Korea, none have been worth one American life or one life of those whose homes we have fought in. Ideology and promoting our way of life on those who do not wish it will always end in failure, because there can never be any definition of winning.

Jim in Reno, Nevada:
Afghanistan played willing host to the vermin that launched the 9/11 attacks. If we leave prematurely, al Qaeda will return to Afghan safe havens. When Afghanistan has the ability and the political will to fight the terrorists and defeat them, or at least keep them in hiding, then we can leave.

Lori in Pennsylvania:
Wasn't getting Bin Laden the whole point of Afghanistan? Now that we've done that, isn't it time to bring the troops home? The money we'd save could be put towards bringing down the deficit. It could also be used to help those hit hard by the natural disasters that have occurred over the past few months. Whatever action government decides to take, it needs to be one that only is of benefit to the U.S.

Annie in Atlanta:
It's time you in the media tell it like it is, it will be enough when the Military Industrial Complex that Eisenhower warned us about say it's enough, and not a moment before. And as long as there's money to be made, it will never be enough. Greed is the name of the game, no matter the cost.

M.D.:
It has been "enough" for years. If you "conquer" it, what do you do with it? At times, we don't seem capable of running our own country. Let the Afghan people work their way into this century.


Filed under: Afghanistan
soundoff (196 Responses)
  1. jc

    Bin Laden is gone. Time to move on.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
  2. Russ in PA

    For politicians, the big banks, and the military industrial complex, enough is never enough. War is Keynesian philosophy run wild, at the expense of those that pay, and those that live through it. As Capt. Terrel said in OUTLAW JOSE WALES: "Doin right ain't got no end."

    Ron Paul in 2012...

    May 31, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
  3. Bill Weber

    The real question is "When are we (the USA) going to wake up and realize that Afghanistan is an "endless pit". We are pouring our blood and dearly needed resources into a region that at best could care less about the Taliban and which leaders they have in Kabul.
    History should teach our leaders that not one country has ever won anything in Afghanistan. Enough is Enough!

    May 31, 2011 at 2:26 pm |
  4. Dennis north carolina

    NOW--Bring our troops home.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
  5. Elizabeth From Toronto

    Enough already. The people of Afghanistan had their best opportunity over the last almost 10 years to free themselves of terror and become democratic. The countries that have sent soldiers to fight are all countries that everyone who wants to immigrate want to immigrate too, even some Afghans. So if after 10 years no women, old men, young men etc. cannot get out of their stupor enough to fight for their own democracy while all our soldiers were dying in Afghanistan then we need to get out ASAP!

    May 31, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
  6. bonnie from NJ

    How many times does the American public have to say, it is way past enough. How does the government justify the American lives being lost number one. And how do they justify building infrastucture, roads, schools etc on the American tax dollar and our education and infrastructure is falling apart. I am on the verge of losing my Medicare (I am right on the cutoff), but yet I have paid into it my whole working life of 34 years (so far). Get out of their country and leave them alone and worry about us!

    May 31, 2011 at 2:30 pm |
  7. Dr. Michael D. Knox, Tampa

    Zero seconds! The Afghanistan war caused the death or serious injury of thousands of civilian non-combatants. Their relatives and friends are now our enemy. So we have spent our treasury, become a debtor nation, and are less safe. Way to go Obama and Bush.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
  8. Jane (Minnesota)

    Now that Bin Laden is gone, that was the argument for going in; I'd say it's time to exit Afghanistan.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
  9. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    Hi Jack. Enough is enough of this nonsense. This country will go back to the way it has been for hundreds of years and no matter how long we stay there it is still a lost cause. Too many lives have been ruined and this cannot be changed but we don't have to keep destroying others. Bring all of our troops home from everywhere in the world.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
  10. David of Alexandria VA

    When we hear more about the Pakistanis issues with our approach than we hear about the Americans and allies on the ground actually fighting it. Do we still have people there? I mean - where is the focus of our attention being directed? Not on the war - just on the politics.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
  11. Aria Ahrary

    All I can say is killing of innocent civilians is enough. Taliban multiplying is enough. There has to be a different strategy.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:47 pm |
  12. Bizz, Quarryville Pennsylvania

    Jack, a decade ago my grandson was only 10 years old when we invaded Afghanistan. Now he is 20 years old and fighting in that war. That is too much. I would like to know how we get trapped into a war after we spend so many years fighting the Vietnam war. When in the hell will we ever learn? We need to start up to draft and give our troops some relief from having to serve three, four, and five tours in Afghanistan. By starting up the draft the rich and the powerful will get their deferments, while the rest of America will not like it, and come to realize that this war needs to have an end to it.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
  13. Jim

    Jack,

    Afghanistan played willing host to the vermin that launched the 9/11 attacks. If we leave prematurely, al Quaeda will return to Afghan safe havens. When Afghanistan has the ability and the political will to fight the terrorists and defeat them, or at least keep them in hiding, then we can leave.

    Jim
    Reno, Nevada

    May 31, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
  14. george c paree

    Iam againist more time for the government to get out of afghanistan we need to be out of all these phoney wars The President of both partys liers and dont care about anything but trhere jobs .I never thought I hate the government in mt life but lies and self promotion is all there is .I want a Harry Truman chuck paree anderson in.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:54 pm |
  15. JENNA

    When it comes to the war in Afghanistan, how much is enough?

    The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are MONEY PITS.

    We should pull out of both nations now and let NATO run the lead.

    It doesn't matter when we leave, next week, next month, a year, a decade, a century, once we leave the Taliban and Al Qaeda will take over.

    So why throw good money after bad and why waste another American life?

    The time to end GW Bush's failed policy is NOW.

    Jenna
    Roseville CA

    May 31, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
  16. Lori - PA

    Jack,

    Wasn't getting Bin Laden the whole point of Afghanistan? Now that we've done that, isn't it time to bring the troops home? The money we'd save could be put towards bringing down the deficit. It could aslo be used to help those hit hard by the natural disasters that have occured over the past few months. How about putting the money towards education? Whatever action government decides to take, it needs to be one that only is of benefit to the U.S.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
  17. Tom in Desoto, Tx

    We past that point long ago, especially when things stopped there and Iraq became focus point. You can't restart a war like that. Get out now.

    May 31, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
  18. Roy Birdzell

    It's not a question of "how much is enough". We, as a collective, as a nation and it's peoples, all signed off on freeing Afghanistan of al Queda and the Taliban. It is 10 years too late now to be second guessing those commitments now. Whatever the costs and whatever the time it takes to complete that commitment is what we should focus upon. Abandonment, or failure is simple not an option, for that would mean that all the sacrifices our young men and women have made would have been in vain. What a sorry epitaph it would be for those who have died there in voulunteering their lives to carry out the mission that we as nation all together asked them to perform.

    Roy Jacksonville FL

    May 31, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
  19. Maureen, Yukon Territory

    Canada amongst other NATO countries will be pulling all combat troops out of Afghanistan starting this July and I think this is the right decision. No one is abandoning Afghanistan since thousands of troops will be left until 2014 to continue training and advising the Afghani military and police. But enough is enough. Since the war against Al Queda was won years ago we have basically just been fighting a civil war there and it is time to leave. Let Afghanistan determine its own destiny.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:02 pm |
  20. Sylvia from California

    Enough is when girls are not afraid to go to school, when they are not sold into marriage at age 13 (or younger) or when they can wear what ever they like without fear....

    May 31, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
  21. Jayne

    "Enough" was several years ago. Bring the troops home and spend the billions on building American schools, hospitals and infrastructure.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:08 pm |
  22. Wilhelm von Nord Bach

    'Enough was Enough" years ago, Jack.

    this has turned into a re-run of the Vietnam War complete with Pakistan being "Cambodia West" and President Hamid Karzi as Ngo Dình Diem, with both being totally corrupt and useless as "leaders"

    now that Osama bin Laden is gone, it's time to get out of this waste of lives and money. there is a very good reason why Afghanistan is known as "the Graveyard of Empires". the Soviet occupation there was a primary reason for their economic collapse in the 1990's. the same could happen to the United States IF we keep up with "foreign adventures"

    May 31, 2011 at 3:08 pm |
  23. Pete in Georgia

    For the answer to this question ...................................ask Russia.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
  24. Janne from NC

    I' m not sure how to define it but we passed it about 7 years ago.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
  25. Ed from California

    I think we need to "clean up" the rest of the Taliban fighters and all of bin Laden's supporters, for good. And by whatever means necessary, to end their rein of terror. Kill them all!! Be done with this, and them!! We are at WAR!! Decimate all of Afghanistan's poppy fields, so no one else can profit from it's sale. And stop it's exportation out of country. Once their all gone..... I think the message will set in, soundly!!

    May 31, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
  26. Steve, Clifton, VA

    The answer is rather simple Jack. Too much is when we spend $1 dollar more that will contribute to our homeland budget deficit. One Dollar more for a country that doesn't want the blood and treasury of our troops and economy. It's time to cut our losses and bring our troops home and finally start to focus on home for a change.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
  27. CRAIG R. MCNEES

    tampa, fl how about a full complete fiscal accounting of my tax dollars that have been blown on this fiasco? making this public might finally shame our politicians into pulling the plug on this money pit as we should own Afghanistan by now. and might i ask, who is going to reimburse us for the military aid? even for ww2 we sent out bills.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:26 pm |
  28. scott, Oakland

    It might not be enough yet till we elect a sober president.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
  29. Gerry

    We should have cut our losses in Afghanistan when we invaded Iraq. You cannot fight wars on two fronts effectively. We missed our chance when we defeated the Taliban. We should have pulled out years ago. Opium production is up, the Taliban and the War Lords are still controlling the outlying areas and were still supporting a totally corrupt government with no end in sight and a unattainable objective. Who will end this farce?

    Gerry
    Ash Fork, Az.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
  30. Ken in Seattle

    It is already enough and time for us to to significantly draw down out troop levels. Assuming the people of Afghanistan have the political will to form an effective government and want to keep the Taliban from controlling the country again, we can offer them assistance including advisers for a certain period of time. However, it is questionable that anyone from the outside can realistically influence the political nature of a country when large portions are ruled by competing war lords who act in their own self interest and not that of the country as a whole, as they have for hundreds if not thousands of years. There is no doubt that leaving the job in Afghanistan unfinished to go after Saddam Hussein greatly hindered our ability, however limited, to establish a system of government willing and able to prevent the Taliban from coming back into power and reestablishing a sanctuary for al- Qaeda. Since Pakistan has provided both of them with alternative sanctuary one has to question to what extent it really matters at this point in time. The men and women of the military, not to mention those of the CIA, have performed admirably but it is time to bring them home!

    May 31, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  31. garrick

    well Jack here we go again.If Bush would have stayed in Afghanistan and not went to play the oil game,you wouldn't be asking this.so I guess we should bring the troops home this year.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
  32. Paulette in Dallas,PA

    It has been enough already. Long overdue. Time to bring our Fathers; Husbands; Sons; Brothers;Uncles;;Nephews and all of the female counterparts Home to enjoy some of this Freedom they've been fighting for this long.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:38 pm |
  33. Susan Frost

    That's a no-brainer: One dead or wounded American is one too many!

    Susan
    Tuscaloosa AL

    May 31, 2011 at 3:39 pm |
  34. Tina Tx

    When they ran Russia out of their country with their tails between their legs.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
  35. Kathie

    it was enough when bush turned his attention to Iraq to start another war built on lies and deceit. enough lives have been lost/destroyed. time to bring our troops home, stop wasting billions in endless fighting and take care of business at home

    May 31, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
  36. Carol Haines City, Fl

    Jack, We are broke. We can no longer afford to be over there or in Iraq. It is time to bring the troops home and let those people kill each other. They have fought over there for centuries so let them go at it. We need to bring the troops and the equipment home and crack down on who is here in our country illegally and kick those who are here to do us harm out. We are never going to win over there, so it is time to come home and protect our borders.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
  37. diridi

    enough is better to get out of these and fix our economy, jobs, and energy-independence, and stringent immigration....first home, then others...

    May 31, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
  38. Peg in NY

    Enough is enough. Time to wrap this up and bring the troops home.

    May 31, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
  39. DON IN WESTPORT, MASS.

    To put it plainly, Afghanistan is just not worth saving. It's culture seems to be locked into some kind of Neanderthal like trance, hell bent on living like animals, and wanting to stay that way.
    Osama bin laden is dead. As far as I'm concerned we are done.
    To stay there any longer is synonymous with "killing a dead horse, not to mention the death of many more American soldiers.
    Our soldiers have done a fine job, many making the ultimate sacrifice so we may remain free back home. They will never be forgotten.
    If we do decide we are going to try and civilize that country, let's save them for last.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
  40. Rick McDaniel

    We long ago, passed the point of enough.

    We need to do one of 2 things:

    1. Dispose of Karzai and wage war against any and all comers, and tear the country to shreds.

    2. Get out now, and admit we don't have what it takes to fight wars, any more, because politicians don't have the intestinal fortitude to allow the military to do, what needs to be done.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
  41. B. J. , Quincy,Ill

    We ought to go in full force, take them over and turn them into a governed state.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
  42. ken, atlantic city, nj

    The afgan war is insane, and serves no purpose other than to kill insurgents who have the courage to stand up to the highest paid assassins in the world. Obama and congress are a bunch of insane war mongers who are blinded by the quest to show the world our military power. Congress including both democrats and republicans have spent three trillion dollars on the wars in iraq and afghanistan and they just voted to spend another trillon dollars in 2012 on defense, homeland security, and secret cia projects. The federal debt is 14.3 trillion, medicare is 35 trillion unfunded, and yet the voters are willing to re-elect obama or some other republican corporate war monger.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
  43. Dennis Fisher Ontario, Canada.

    The first world war lasted 4 years, the second one lasted six years. The Afghanistan war is just one year short of those two combined and it is still in progress with no end or decision in sight. Warlords ,with their own armies,control their own sections of the country and they are not about to surrender that control to the government of Kandahar province.
    The British and the Russians found Afghanistan unconquerable. So will the Western allies. Like Nelson looking through his telescope with his eye closed, the West's vision is also impaired. Victory is not in the cards.
    Prolonging this war just prolongs the funeral processions of the troops which are to no avail.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
  44. Joe CE

    We went into Afganstan to get Bin Laden. We got him. TIME TO GET OUT. With Iraq, there was no compelling US reason to go in – yEah Saddam was evil and getting rid of him good but no real US intrest served. Oil? – we can get IT cheaper from shale. Both these places are not real countries. They are a collection of tribal groups with a long history of fighting each other. Nation building is an impossible task. The present "governments" are undemocratic, corrupt, not big on human rights, and not really frinds of the US. By staying we are wasting money and harvesting resentment from the locals. If the TALABAN OR SOME EQUALLY UBJECTIONABLE GROUP TAKES OVER, WE CAN GO BACK & REMOVE THEM IN 6 WEEKS.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:12 pm |
  45. Gary H. Boyd

    USATODAY reports that, as of Monday, 1,475 US military and 2 Defense Department civilians have been killed in Afghanistan. That compares with 4,444 servicemembers and 13 Defense Deparment people killed in Iraq. Considering the number of years we've been in both countries, Afghanistan is turning out to be a more dangerous place. As to your question Jack - considering our prospects for success, I'd suggest enough was enough when we took our first casualty. We shouldn't have gone in there in the first place.

    Gary in Scottsdale, Arizona

    May 31, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
  46. Aria Ahrary

    "The schools in Afghanistan openly teach young children how to hate the United States. The population can't read, but they're taught how to hate our guts." I have to disagree with Jack on this. The little ones going to school learned to hate the Russians, because of the invasion in the 80s. As for the Americans they think they are there to help them. However, with so much insecurity and civilian deaths they are blaming the Afghan government more.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
  47. Bud Rupert

    jack as long as we are keeping the bad guys on the run and contained then maybe it's the right thing to stay for the long haul. The' achilles heel of US foreign policy is – impatience. The public does not have the stomach for long drawn out conflicts. The bad guys just wait us out. Maybe we should re-direct our thinking. Just a thought.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
  48. Elizabeth in Los Angeles

    Enough was enough a long time ago. What - if anything - is Obama thinking? I'm in favor of taking the high road (no pun intended) but these people want us dead.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:19 pm |
  49. Mark in Oklahoma City

    Jack, we went way past "enough" a long time ago! When will these Nation-Building Idiot leaders of ours ever realize that we cannot FORCE Democracy on a culture that does not even comprehend the concept itself? Over 6,000 Americans lost in that region of the world...FOR WHAT?

    May 31, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
  50. Gary - Woodhaven, Michigan

    Of all the ideological wars we have gotten ourselves into since Korea, none have been worth one American life or one life of those whose homes we have fought in.

    Ideology and promoting our way of life on those who do not wish it will always end in failure, because there can never be any definition of winning.

    When I left Vietnam and returned to the contempt of a nation for my sacrifice, I learned that we must always honor those who fight our battles, America's battles, no matter if we are right or if we are wrong as with honor there is no winning or losing. In Afghanistan, we are wrong.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:23 pm |
  51. Mr. D

    It has been "enough" for years. If you "conquer" it, what do you do with it? At times, we don't seem capable of running our own country. Let the Afgan people work their way into this century.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:23 pm |
  52. Don (Belleville, Canada)

    Afghanistan has endured almost ten years of destruction and internal bloodshed because of America's decision to invade in order to eradicate Bin Laden and his terrorist organization.
    Iraq suffered the same fate for allegedly a similar reason.
    I greatly admire America as a country, but its military leadership and government lack compassion for foreign peoples, and they continually ignore the law of unintended consequences.
    You can't convince me that America would still have invaded Iraq or Afghanistan if it had known in advance the dreadful cost and consequences of those ill-advised invasions.
    Just declare victory now and leave.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
  53. Annie, Atlanta

    It's time you in the media tell it like it is, it will be enough when the Military Industrial Complex that Eisenhower warned us about say it's enough, and not a moment before. And as long as there's money to be made, it will never be enough. Greed is the name of the game, no matter the cost.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
  54. Ken from Pinon Hills. California

    In my lifetime I have lived during WW2, the Korean War, Vietnam War, Bay of Pigs, the invasion Grenada, the Invasion of Panama, the Persian Gulf War, Intervention in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the invasion and occupation of Serbia, the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, and the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
    We have run a- muck with war, and are on a roll, why stop now?

    May 31, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
  55. METALWORKER

    That train left the station a few years back. METALWORKER in IL

    May 31, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
  56. Cee, La

    Jack thats a difficult question....if you remember, we were late getting to the business in Afghanistan, GWB & Co........took us on a detour through Iraq....?????? so I dont know how long we should be there....and your 37% military not approving of Obamas job....is not surprising many in the military have a GOP/Con. mind set, even though they are surposed to be neutral..... they are not......

    May 31, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
  57. Conor in Chicago

    Osama Bin Ladens stated aim at the beginning of this conflict was to bankrupt the United States through a proctracted war in Asia Minor. Most Americans would know this if they were ever allowed to view the actual messages Bin Laden would deliver to the world with accurate translations to accompany it. We are bankrupt. He won, we lost. Bring em home. It's over.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
  58. Bull

    JACK In my opinion enough is too much. We will never leave when there is a dime to be made by these lying politicans. When buffoon in chiefs lips are moving you know he's lying.
    This guy lies when telling truth is easier.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:51 pm |
  59. Bill from Clinton, Maryland

    This is like beating a dead horse. Ask another question.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
  60. Jerry Johns Creek, GA

    Hamid Karsai is a politician and like any politician he goes with the flow, cash-flow that is. He now sees his billions from the US starting to dwindle so it's time to look for another benefactor to feed his needs. He knows he will lose the next election if we still have a significant military presence in Afghanistan. Without the USA there, he will be free to rig the election whatever way he cares to. He wants us out, we want to get out, what the heck is stopping us? Bring our heroes home.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
  61. Michael Bindner, Alexandria, VA

    We're there. The country needs to be partitioned, with the Pashtun areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan joined into a single country. If that country keeps supporting al Queda, we make war on it alone until it denounces terrorism. Let the other regions work out their own way – and if al Zawaihi is not in the Pashtun area, leave it alone too and use the CIA to get him in Pakistan.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
  62. Nancy, Tennessee

    The people here and there have had enough. Afghanistan is a backwards country and we must look like space invaders to them. They are just waiting for us to obliterate them or pack up our stuff and go. Since we mean them no harm, it's time to load up and ride off in a cloud of dust.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:56 pm |
  63. Gerald (Tampa, FL)

    How about we protect our borders and let the Afganis protect theirs?

    May 31, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
  64. Mark in Las Vegas

    Jack, We should have left Afghanistan a long time ago. Today, our only purpose there is to feed the Defense Contractors.

    May 31, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
  65. Nate Evans

    It is necessary to realize that once the US military occupies we never leave. In 2009 President Obama was new to being the President and made many theorectically and politically sound promises. However, it is obvious that he did not anticipate the level of out right resistance within Congress, have the full understanding of US military logistics and resources, know the extent of the US intel gathering process, nor did he know the level of hostility the US would receive from both the UN and Afghanis. The war in Afghanistan is a war against a twisted Extremist Philosophy that we are still fighting with people instead of a means to destroy that philosophy. Enough will only begin when we develop a counter philosophy otherwise it will be the same old thing.

    -Nate, Fayetteville, NC

    May 31, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
  66. Gigi Oregon

    When a country is broke and the rest of the world is looking at the next move the United States makes it's time to make a decision. And I can tell you we'll be damned if we do and damned if we don't. We are BROKE and we have no funds to go any where. We probably can't afford to even bring the troops home. Unemployment is high. graduates hit the job market this month. No one can afford to retire...corporate America doesn't care it's no skin off their nose. They are banking big bucks off of cheap labor around the world. We could bring the troops home and put them on duty around the United States and not let corporate America back in. Accept no foreign goods made outside the USA and begin to reinvent a new America. And build our markets back up. But that would take action from Congress and they are to busy fighting among themselves to work at the job they promised to do for the folks back home.

    When is enough...enough? When the people get smart and hunger enough to go to the street in protest.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
  67. Jay

    Its time to have a serious discussion about leaving Afghanistan. Read Bing West's book, he is right on target.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
  68. Donaldo in ATL

    Bring the troops home, put them to work helping our disaster victims.It is time for some good old fashion common sense. Unfortunately, our voices are barely heard over the military croonies & the military industrial complex lobbyists. Look at Israel and its neighbors, haven't we learned anything from them. Common Sense, jack, we need a huge dose of it.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
  69. MB2010a

    Bring the troops home now...

    May 31, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
  70. thom richer

    It is already too much. These three "wars" are purely political and for profit. To continue the pretense any longer they are not, is a criminal act. What we have professed as a partnership in democracy is a clever redefined definition of Imperialism and deceitfully political front for Imperialism. It is Nation Building no matter the name we attach to it or the pretense under which we justify our actions. I attached the name "Eternal" to these "wars" 10 years ago for the simple reason they will never be "won." Ten years is an eternity. It is my belief they were never meant to be won from the onset. Why? Because our motives, or those of the Bush/Cheney/Rove administration, were fostered by greed and personal political agendas. Yes, it is already too long.

    Thom Richer
    Negaunee, MI

    May 31, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  71. atsudo nym

    We need to rid ourselves of the notion that Afghanistan is a country at all.

    It absolutely isn't a "nation state" in the sense that we in the west have been thinking for the last few hundred years. There is no such thing as an Afghan nation–nobody in the country thinks of themselves as Afghan–they're Pashtun, Hazara, Tadjik, and within those groups they are members of countless clans and family alliances.

    So what are we "nation building" for? And what would that nation even look like? I supported the war when we first went in, then watched Bush get a severe case of ADD and put all the resources into Iraq. That was a monumental blunder, a mistake that will be studied and ridiculed for centuries to come.

    But it's also in the past, and we have no hope at all of leaving Afghanistan as a better place than when we came. So let's just leave instead.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  72. bricard

    We blew it the day Bush , Rumsfeld, Cheney and Rice decided to let him go ( bin laden ) .He was in our crosshair at Tora Bora , it is an unquestionable fact . Had we acted then responsabily the death of thousands of people would have been avoided. Still counting today ! and for what?

    May 31, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  73. Ricnaustin

    I think the big hurdle was getting OBL. Now that that is done, then hopefully the troops can come home.

    The general population really does not know all the ins and outs of what is really going on in Afghanistan, so I'd like to believe The White House is doing what it needs to....

    The Middle East will always be at war.... say more?

    May 31, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  74. james Friel

    Time to get out and let Afganistan revert to whatever it is going to be. I saw the other day Karzai was complaining about the U.S. making a a mistake by bombing a suspected house, I mean this is a war ?Sorry!The war is fought mostly by the U.S. and it is keeping people like Karzai in power. I was watching another report on T.V. and it showed a small post on the Pakastani border where the bad guys come across the border and attack U.S. troops. Pakistan is no help either keeping terroists/fighters from crossing the border. Get out now and kill aid to Pakistan which is a huge joke. Afganistan is too big for the U.S. to control unless we want to stay a hundred years? Our mission has been accomplished by killing Bin Laden.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:07 pm |
  75. Richard C.

    Afghanistan is a black hole. It has sucked the life out of this country and it seems we cannot get out. Karzai is a criminal and should be given the same treatment as Bin Laden.
    When will we learn; Korea, Vietnam, Iraq? Get out now and heal the economy of the USA. It's about time for Obama to lead. What a concept!
    Malvern, PA

    May 31, 2011 at 5:07 pm |
  76. Jean Sartre

    ENOUGH was almost 10 years ago... their is simply no justification for this massive stupidity...

    May 31, 2011 at 5:08 pm |
  77. Conor in Chicago

    I think you will see America leave Afghanistan starting in July and culminating in 2014 along with the rest of NATO. Many will think of it as a military defeat but I think the long view of history will view it as a victory for one simple reason: Al Qaida will never find sanctuary in Afghanistan ever again. We must remember that we are there because the Taliban decided to protect Bin Laden in accordance with their cultural norms as he was a guest in their country after the US demanded they hand Bin Laden over. We have spent the last 10 years decimating their ranks, killing their civilians, and disrupting the way of life they want to live. They will never abandon their culture norms as a result of this war. But you better believe they are going to be very VERY careful who they invite into their country for the next long while.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:08 pm |
  78. Al Hein

    Time to go this is just not working. We still haven't learned from Viet Nam.
    We did manage one objective so it is not like we are running away.
    This is not our world over there and we can never be considered as a savior so let's save our troops who have performed splendidly and leave.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:08 pm |
  79. Christopher Barry Rose

    Jack,

    The way our politicians operate you would think they were running for the office of Afghan president. We can talk of rebuilding Afghanistan and the need to help fix that nation yet the painful irony is our politicians here can't quit fighting long enough to fix our own problems. Yet the one thing they all seem to agree on is we need to be out fixing the worlds problems with more free trade, mores spending of our tax dollars, giving away our jobs, etc. Charity starts at home. When will politicians take care of Americans first? (The people who are paying for all this stuff?)

    May 31, 2011 at 5:09 pm |
  80. jim jackson

    the only beneficiaries of these trumped up wars are the military contractors.
    war is a tool of the elite for moving money from the middle class to the pockets of the wealthy. one of many.
    we could fight there forever, changing the "goals" every six months, and not one military contractor would complain.
    after all, their sons do not have to go.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:09 pm |
  81. teresa

    We've now accomplished what we set out to. It's time to pull our troops out of there. It's time we leave Iraq, too. They don't want us there – not us, not our embassies, not our consulates. Let's stop wasting gov't funds trying to force them to be our friends.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
  82. Tim

    We know where the TB are. The ANA/ANP do as well but will not engage them without first being given water and MRE's. We worry about giving Rule of Law and Democracy to a people who did not realize they were oppressed until they learned it from us! Afghanistan and Afghans are not worth our blood – if they were, every member of Congress would have a family member with boots on the ground here. "Afghanistan is a school yard; ruled by bullies and corrupted by thieves." Alot of us remember those school yards of our youth and knew instinctively what needed to be done about it. It is not an intellectual solution. Kill bad guys. Kill bomb makers especially. I'm here. We KNOW where they are! Allow the US Army to be an Army!!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
  83. Brent Ridley

    We need to get out of all military engagements in other countries and use the money for alternative energy.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
  84. Ken

    The United States military leaders like the idea of it's mettle being tested in real-world combat scenarios.

    They like all the additional funds that congress grants them year after year to support the war machine; testing new weapons and tactics in a way no other military in the world can do.

    This has nothing to do with protecting anyone, or getting revenge for 9/11: it's about the military machine enjoying all the attention (money) that it constantly is nurtured with.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
  85. Mac Texas

    Hey, the President still has another month to unveil his plan. Now, a question for you: If the war in Afghanistan was to get bin Laden and stop Al Quaeda, then what were we doing in Iran? Mac

    May 31, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  86. Ken in NC

    Insurgents ambush our troops and retreat to the homes of civilians and use them for shields. Karzai takes our money and stashes it in foreign bank accounts. then this President that will not fight tells us how to fight. Give him to the Taliban and bring our troops home.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  87. Claudia in Houston

    The Afghan people have no respect for the loss of American lives but scream bloody murder when their own are accidentally killed. I say that's more than enough to leave Afghan and let them continue to do whatever it is they do, but no longer at our expense.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  88. Joseph Starr

    When the allies invaded the italian coast at Anzio in world war 2, the commanding general decided to consolidate the beach head before advancing. In that lul the germans were able to move in panzers and artillery effectivley trapping the forces in a pocket surrounded by high ground. The German general in command (Kesselring) scoffed that anzio was the biggest allied prisoner of war camp in german occupied europe.

    Afganistan is our second Anzio and the paks and arab zeolots who had virtually no ability to strike at us can wage jihad at will in territory and under circumstances favoring the defender. We have long supply lines, poor communication with the local population, and our enemy is committed unto death to kill us.

    Why dont his obama's generals – who are sworn to defend the United States – stop worrying about career advancement and insist (behind closed doors with the president) that this is a waste of american life. It is absolutly shameful.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
  89. Ron in Halifax

    Afghanistan??? Bin laden appears to have been in Pakistan for the last many years. I think both the Afgan and Iraq wars were a waste of many thousands of lives and a trillion and a half or so dollars. Hope everyone is happy now.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:14 pm |
  90. ramses

    We need to be in Pakistan, not afghanistan. Seal the border from Pakistan to Afghanistan, Nuke Pakistan. Let the SOB's learn a lesson.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:14 pm |
  91. Burbank from CA

    Time to get out of all these wars and also time to stop all this foreign aid to all these other countries until we balance our own budget.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:14 pm |
  92. boblinfoto

    Nobody ever succeeds in Afghanistan except the Afghani's. Time to leave.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:15 pm |
  93. Tom

    We got the SOB, It's time we go as promised..if we were waiting for a good time to exist, that was it!
    How do you ask our soldiers to be the last man to die for a mistake?
    Enough is enough!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:15 pm |
  94. dan in capitola

    Can we send SEAL Team 6 to 'reason' with Karzai, his corrupt brother, and all their cronies?

    Seriously, we should get out ASAP. That country is absolutely a lost cause with the most intractable problems. No one can fix it, and why should anyone try if the populace doesn't demand anything better from its own leaders? Tribe affiliation and religion trump everything, even logical self-interest and so they have the nation they have because their priorities are so jacked up.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
  95. Andy in Sunny New Mexico

    Caff, can I call you Caff? I'm in the military. Count me in that 37% you mentioned. To all those who are listening, please contact your Congressman and urge them to get us out of this mess. Enough is enough.

    Proud to serve, sad to defend an empire,
    -A-

    May 31, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
  96. Jeff In Minnesota

    Since day one I did not understand the concept of "nation building" in Afghanistan since it is not really a "nation" so much as a set of borders set forth by the English in the 19th century. The people of Afghanistan are comprised of different clans, not a people desiring a single nation. As a result, it will be impossible to get these clans to come together under a banner of a single nation. Therefore "nation building" in Afghanistan is a pipe dream of the US government. We should just settle things down, get our military out and provide aid to the various clans and move on.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
  97. Austin

    Ten years to help people where their children hold signs " I'm hungry" then when soldiers pass by these same children throw rocks at our vehicles. What does this action tell you about adult mindset.

    We have our quarry in Iraq and Afghanistan,

    I have written my Congressman, Senators and President urging all to begin drawdown as scheduled and accelereate process as safely as possible.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
  98. Erik

    Has everyone forgotten why we went there? It was not just to "get bin Laden". It was to stop Afghanastan from being a spawning and training ground for international terrorism. That mission is no less important today. This is not the time for cowardice. We can honorably leave when and only when Afghanistan is securely in the hands of a regime that is interested in being nieghbors of the world and not Jihadist conquerers of it.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  99. the_dude

    We'll never be out of iraq of aftghanistan with people like obama, bush, pelosi, feinstein at the helm. They and their friends are making way too much money to withdraw now. Still haven't squeezed every last dime out of the American public yet so there is still plenty of work to be done.

    Ron Paul 2012 the only hope for change and even that is a long shot.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  100. Cy Gardner

    We passed enough several years ago. This is a holdover from Dick Cheney's plan for war without end. This is a welfare check to the Halliburtons, the Koch bros. and other greedy leeches in the military industrial complex who take taxpayer money and use some of it to lobby Congress who gives them more money and on and on.... Time to spend our money at home. cy Arlington, VA

    May 31, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  101. Sam, Palm Valley, FL

    OBL is dead...we need to get out now, job done. No more money to any country/government in the Middle East. Just leave, bring our military home!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  102. Spock

    Its Enough right Now. Time to exit Stage Left and pull out of every country.. Also with draw all support, its clear were wasting our money on corrupt administrations everywhere in the world.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  103. dave in nashville

    Forgot to say to just ask the families who lost children and loved ones there for no valid reason whatsoever. Send the senators sons next time.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  104. shine

    Enough is enough. No question.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
  105. William F. Cole

    It is now more than enough time for us to wirhdraw our troops. How long are we going to try? Enough already

    May 31, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  106. William

    Personally I think 1 minute after Osama Bin Laden was dropped off in the ocean we should've started our withdraw from Afghanistan. Too many of our young men have died over there in a war that can never be won , reason being the People Do Not want our help end of story.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  107. Tyler, R.I

    The war in Afghanistan is a lose-lose situation. There will never be a "victory" in the country, at least not one that will appease all partys involved. The best possible option would be to leave the country with a stable government in place. However, it seems that is not going to happen, so I believe that we should get out of the country while still targeting terrorist infrastructure. Its not great, but it may be the best we can do.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  108. Bobby Farrow

    I think what is going on all over in the middle east is ridicules. The US/UN needs to fully step in for the citizens of these countries that are paying for their failed leadership. They either teach hate, show hate to their own people, or train people to be martyrs. It needs to come to a stop, America is in fact the world police when it comes to people being held down by a corrupt government.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  109. becky - Las Vegas

    We're already beyond enough, Jack. However, I'd like to challenge your use of the statistics on favorable vs unfavorable views of Obama from those in and out of military. These need to be qualified to talk about the strategy (or lack of) in Afghanistan. I suspect feelings of favorability and non-favorability have issues like the number dying and mediocre care of military families with respect to pay, health benefits, etc. Obama didn't created those policies but as Commander in Chief they are his to "fix".

    May 31, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  110. Ralph Spyer

    I am sick of the middle east, enought is enought.How much drug money does the CIA need anyway ? If we still had a Draft in this Country ,Hell no,we won"t go. or Hay Hay ,BHO,how many kids did you kill today.Vietnam all over again When will we ever learn???

    May 31, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
  111. Renee Peoria,Ill

    We're well past enough. Time to get out already – of every country we have troops in – and concentrate on our problems right here at home. After all, if we can't keep our own house clean how dare we presume to tell others how to clean theirs?

    May 31, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  112. Situ Mistry

    Afghanistan, Pakistan–all the 'stans will need some permanent solution...If you wish to revisit this region again in 20 years and leave it to the next generation then so be it...i do not believe you can leave Afghanistan for a very long time...if you leave Afghanistan then leave South Korea, leave Japan, leave Germany (you still have forces there), leave Iraq, Saudi Arabia –close the doors and stop global trade...

    May 31, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  113. Kevin in CA

    Give that Afghanistan is correctly referred to as the "scrap heap of empire", one day after killing bin Laden is long enough.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  114. Sara in Toronto

    Like you said Jack, Afghanistan has never been conquered. Its become less of a mission-based war and more of a "prove that we can do it" mission. Terrorists believe Jihad is forever, and letting more soldiers die every week will not change that. We all seem to think that it is possible to kill every single person affiliated with a terrorist organization, but it isn't.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  115. Pat Missouri

    We could fight and kill all the Taliban but there is one problem. they are like cockroaches. you can't stop them. they will keep coming back because all it take is one person to lead and more will follow. it time to get out of there

    May 31, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  116. Steven De Pater

    As long as the Taliban and Al Quaeda are still functioning in Afghanistan, we need to be there. 9/11 happened because our guard was down, and if we just jump ship, our enemy will still be there. Osama, the figure head of global terror may be out of the picture, but the threat still remains.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  117. Greg Bailey

    Jack,

    Get all of our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan by November 1, 2011 otherwise get everyone out of Congress in the election and get people that will do the work for the will of the people not self-serving interests. It's time time these knuckleheads in Washington opened up a history book (not just Afghanistan but all the Empires of the past), lets learn from history!

    P.S. When did foreign aid go from a few million annually to multi-billions; no thank you, I'll keep my taxes and my guns.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
  118. gypsy

    how much is enough? yesterday was enough, the day before was enough. today is enough. they do not want us there – nothing good will come of our interference – bring our troops home NOW. good time to get out of iraq also.

    now is enough.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  119. Justin

    We left Afghanistan before... right after the 1980's expulsion of the Soviets (which the CIA had a hand in). Then the power vacuum allowed the Taliban to emerge... then it became Al Qaeda's safe haven... then we had the USS Cole, Embassy Bombings, and 9/11. Do we really want to start this cycle over??

    May 31, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
  120. Richard Reiner

    Enough is enough now. How can we ask our Men and Women is the United States military to risk their lives for a corrupt government. It has become obvious that they are not going to change and that government
    is already working with what is the enemy. It was time to get out years ago.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  121. vicky, portland oregon

    Would happily leave now, if we could bring the women with us.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  122. Larry

    As the old saying goes, Jack,

    Enough is enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Nuf said.

    Larry from Columbia City, Indiana

    May 31, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  123. Peter Waterman

    Jack we passed enough several years ago!! Peter in VT

    May 31, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  124. Stephen Charchuk

    Mission accomplished..... Finally. Time to leave.

    -Stephen
    Yarmouth, NS Canada

    May 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  125. Olivia H

    Enough is enough already. Look at how many soldiers have lost their lives. It makes me so sad to think about each and every family that has lost a loved one in a war that's un-winable.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  126. Jack C

    Jack,

    It would help if the media would stop inflaming the proverbial pot because it's making things worse.

    WE ALL AGREE enough is enough regarding the middle east. It'll happen, but it doesn't help with the talking heads trying to enrage people for nothing.

    Let's keep perspective!!!!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  127. Doug Twomey

    At this point, Afghanistan needs our help but doesn't know it. As the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. We need to scale way back in Afghanistan. Stop the military effort but continue to offer aid where that is rational, and will produce useful, measurable results.

    The Arab Spring has sprung. We need to focus now on supporting the momentum of that popular uprising and let the people do their own work. They'll thank us, for a change. And while we're at it, we could use a Spring here as well. We need politicians who are not corrupt, and who work for US instead of fighting each other over petty partisan politics or jostling to get on the TV screen. We risk falling behind those Arab nations that are demanding, and getting, true democracy and rule by the people instead of elites who want to micromanage and control the population.

    – from Undisclosed Location, CO (near Cheyenne Mountain)

    May 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  128. Jeff

    Ten years, is along time and if Bush would have put a real effort in finding osama in the first place who know the war could have been over and done with already. But i agree how many lives and amount of money should Americans sacrifice and will that ever be repaid in full by the country America is trying to help. I say bring em but make sure the job is done or admit defeat.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
  129. Kerry Bedford, TX

    The withdrawal of US troops has been overdue for a long time. When the public thought we were saving the Afghan people from a fate worse than death it was acceptable. The truth is out, we are waisting US lives and $$ with people who want us gone. Leave them to their own fate, they have managed to survive thousands of years without our intervention. Obama needs to concentrate on pending domestic issues.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  130. David in Ottawa

    Here's a thought – pull out, and let India handle it.

    The troops get to come home instead of fighting for a lost cause. The money saved can be then diverted to lowering the national debt instead, and Pakistan will see some real repercussions for screwing up so bad with Bin Laden and trying to play both sides of the fence.

    Everyone wins.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  131. Willem Pothof

    It´s enough when Afghanistan won´t fall back immediatly in a more instabile and potential dangerous place as it is now. If Taliban kicks out Karzai for example or the relatively ´contained´ Al Qaeda finds new ground in the country we are further away than ever. Succes is impossible in Afghanistabn but that never has been the goal. Defenitley some achievements have to be made by the US and its Allies before withdrawal. Please Jack, stop naming Afghanistan and Iraq in one sentence, as you know these are complete different wars, and moreover the withdrawal from Iraq has been started.
    Tropical Greetings from Costa Rica !

    May 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  132. Gary Duffett

    Enough was enough, a long time ago. This junk country has been run by warlords for a thousand + years, and it still is. What or who is going to change that - nobody. Karzai doesn't want us there, and neither do I. You would honestly think the "GANG OF 535- IN THE WASHINGTON COUNTRY CLUB" would have seen thru this when the Russians wrapped up their Viet Nam and went home - the U.S. should do the same ----- Gary – Nevada

    May 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  133. Lewis

    Well Jack I suppose that depends on what side your on, that of the people or that of the politicians. We the people know clearly that we shouldn't have been there to start with. But they the politicians don't seem to have their own version of the events of 9/11, of how to spend the tax payers money and well lets face it of what rewards they can reap. Lets be sure there is more to this picture then we can even begin to see. Where is wiki leaks when needed.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  134. Jon Ventura CA

    We need to get out of Afghanistan as soon as possible, and we need to start right now. The Chinese have a huge army, but they are smart enough to stay out of foreign countries, and use trade rather than military might. We should learn that lesson.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  135. Marco S.

    We should get out of there now and use the money we save from the war, to reform our energy policy.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  136. Donald Fraser Miles

    The Afghan War is eating away at the thinking and finances of the US and NATO. It is making the US and NATO vulnerable to further wars by insidiously causing a drop in instinctive problem avoidance strategies. I would advise the US and NATO to exit Afghanistan and its war as soon as possible.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  137. Mark

    Jack,

    What is the alternative? No matter where anyone stands on this issue, what will happen if we pull out? Look what the Taliban did when they were in power before. I don't see any strategy to keep them from regaining power, and I don't want to see the 2nd Afghan War like we saw the Second Persian Gulf War.

    Mark in Maryland

    May 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  138. Barb Theiste

    I don't know how much is enough in Afghanistan and neither do you. I'm sure it's not as uncomplicated as you seem to think it is. Let's let those who are really in the know decide. Sometimes, Jack, you seem pretty biased.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  139. Will Walk

    We've already exceeded what is enough. Your comments said it all. Every American life lost now is satrictly on Obama's hands. Let's get the troops out now and vote Obama out as well.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  140. Oz

    Well Jack, I guess this is the American way. . Blame the victim! Yes, they hate us but can you imagine how we would feel if our skies were filled with Afghan drones firing hellfire missiles at our softball games every weekend? No you are right, they are an ungrateful bunch of illiterate malcontents, and should be thankful that we are still willing to kill them.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  141. george shell

    enough is right now, get out /spent the money on the USA and be done with that country.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
  142. Jeff (Ontario Canada)

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Ten years, is along time and if Bush would have put a real effort in finding osama in the first place who know the war could have been over and done with already. But i agree how many lives and amount of money should Americans sacrifice and will that ever be repaid in full by the country America is trying to help. I say bring em but make sure the job is done or admit defeat.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
  143. Iyke from Chicago

    I think the United States should withdraw from Afghanistan and resort to increases drone operation to take out the taliban.....

    The desire to force these animals that call themselves Talibans to embrace civility is just a waste time.....

    Enough is Enough...

    May 31, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
  144. Eardley Ham Woodbury, MN

    Jack,

    I had enough of this insane war two days BEFORE we invaded.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
  145. Mike in Pekin, IL

    Being in the military myself, I am torn. Leaving now would feel like leaving the johb undone. However, I think we have to temper our expectations when it comes to what is possible in Afghanistan. In that regard, we have certainly passed the point of diminishing returns as far as our military investment there goes. If we want to continue to work with them diplomatically and economically, we could still have an impact. But other thatn sending traiing teams in to help strengthen their military and police forces, I thinkw we are about done there.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
  146. Mike Holder

    What a waste of money, US' Servicemen's lives and effort. None of them are worth a singel American's life. That includes Afghanistan, Iran or Iraq. Bring our boys home now!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
  147. Charles in Lawrence, NJ

    Afghanistan’s a pointless win so leaving is the only move, and then we can abandon Pakistan to their friends of India.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
  148. Eduardo

    There is no justifiable reason to be in Afghanistan anymore, plain and simple. Why should we make their problems ours when they hate us?
    I say we improve our relationship with Pakistan, seal the border between the two, secure their Nukes and run the Taliban out of Pakistan once and for all. Let Afghanistan fail, it shouldn't be our problem anymore Pakistan is the one with potential.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
  149. carolyn curry

    Get out now! We need to think very carefully from now on before we spend our blood and treasure. Too bad if that ticks off the military industrial complex. I know we will have a problem with alot of returnees being unable to find employment, being angry and able to handle weapons...my solution is to put them to work here rebuilding our infrastructure. But by all means start bringing back our troops from a land
    with no real government that is basically a bunch of warring tribes. What's the point?

    May 31, 2011 at 5:30 pm |
  150. Kenneth Krieger

    I have had enough of all wars. The Europeans do not have enough money to buy curise missles. We defend the world and they still do not have as high a standard of living. Socialism does not work. Let Europe defend themsrelves. Ken Krieger Cape Coral, Florida

    May 31, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  151. Stephen Gebroski

    It is a shameful attrocity that american children are deprived of one of their parents, to satisfy special interests in a hopeless collection of wars.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  152. Mary Ward

    If Operation Enduring Freedom was supported by a draft we would no longer be in Afghanistan. The public would not accept their sons and/or daughters serving in harm's way for a conflict that is no longer clearly defined. It is certainly not to protect our American freedoms. It is time to bring these men and women home to the United States. Some of them have served multiple tours and endured hardships the likes of which most of us will never be able to comprehend and for what purpose? Bring them home.

    Mary Ward
    Mom of a soldier – SSG Sean Ward – 4th tour 101st Airborne

    May 31, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
  153. donald

    I think the usa needs to learn a lesson by how the world is towards america helping other countries by withdrawing troops and stop the money throw at them by us ! We offer them help and they spit on our liberties and burn our flag ! Every time we are dammed if we don`t and dammed if we do . Enough of the world giving us a blackeye and a shafting , they want to hate us lets give a reason then ...let them kill themselfs if thats the only way they know ... LET THEM FIGHT THEIR OWN BATTLES AND LET GOD SORT THEM OUT !

    May 31, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  154. Paul in Dallas

    I wish I knew Jack, I wish I knew.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
  155. Dan Kindler

    Jack: Love your show because you tell it like it is. I believe we should have gotten out of Afghanistan quite a long time ago. All we are doing is getting our soldiers killed and making their people hate us all the more. They only like us for the money we're dishing out to them. They are not our friends and never have been. That goes for every country we are occupying. I believe Pakistan is not our friend either. They claim to be our friends also due to all the money we give them and in addition, I believe they knew all these years that Bin Laden was in their backyard.

    I keep wondering why our fearless leaders of this country do not have the guts to quit occupying all these countries and giving them billions of the tax payer's money from the United States and start putting our country back together, while bringing all of the our Military home and protect our borders in our country.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  156. Peggy

    It was enough the night they got Osama.
    We need to bring the troops home. The money that is spent on this war should be used to support the families and troops that have served us in this conflct.
    Another portion of this money should be used to beef up intelligence efforts, and securing our ports and borders.
    We are not accomplishing enough on the ground to justify the toll it is taking in blood and treasure.
    It seems highly unlikely that we will ever win the hearts and minds of these Afghanis.We must face reality.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  157. oneSTARman

    WAR in Afghanistan – whether against the USSR or the USA has ALWAYS been a War with Pakistan. Our continued presence in the Region makes more increasingly direct confrontation with Pakistan Inevitable. On the Other-Hand. Pakistan itself has no interest in 'jihad' against the USA. Its concerns are far more REGIONAL. Therefore – the quicker we can extricate ourselves from the Implosion when Pakistan re-establishes ITS Puppet Government to Replace OUR Increasingly Uncontrollable Puppet Government – The Better.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  158. James

    from Frederick, Md

    We will not get out of Afghanistan, and all our other military entanglements until our political leaders get the thumbs up from the greed-driven folks in the military-industrial complex, which means more middle and lower class Americans will die while our "representatives" in DC drag their feet. Criminal behavior! We should use the internet to establish a direct democracy, which would govern per the priorities of an ACTUAL MAJORITY OF AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  159. Bernie of Lowell, MA

    We've already had enough. There's got to be another reason for our dilly-dally there. Perhaps it is the vast mineral wealth that the Hindu Kush present to us.

    These wars haven't shocked us yet.

    Multiple sources report the cost at $1 million a year to support each soldier we deploy, yet we have crooks in Congress who still use "entitlements" like Social Security and Medicare whose "trust funds" have been totally gutted as their scapegoats.

    The low-key fiscal emphasis needs to be brought to full debate.

    When our Congress votes to increase taxes to pay for the wars and retroactively pay down a good portion of our 14 trillion debt, we'll hear even more demands to end the wars. Until then, the Boeings,
    Lockheed- Martins and General Dynamics lobby will continue to bombard us with their "hero" ads and "entitlements" that have been raided will no longer be the scapegoat.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  160. andyz Lynn, MA

    Jack, your question is defeatist by its wording. The question should be do we need to win in Afghanistan or have we done enough damage to al Qaeda and the Taliban already? And remember, if we throw in the towel now we won't have any support if we have to go back in. So the actual issue is: At what price victory?

    May 31, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  161. Donald in New Mexico

    It will never be enough, and it has already been way too much.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  162. John from Alabama

    Jack: We can not ask our young men and women to risk thier lives for a narco state. Karzai Regime is exactly what is in Afghanistan, a regime. There are no freedoms after being there for almost 10 years. Afghanistan must heal from within, and nothing the United States does will cahnge things. Afghanistan must grow up to be a better nation and culture.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  163. Peter Waterman

    Jack they need us there to protect their national crop, Heroin. This stupid war has got to make The Ginnis Book Of Records for DUMB.
    Peter in VT

    May 31, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
  164. v

    It's time for the U.S. to declare war on the governments of Mexico and Columbia who's cartels are the greatest source of escalating terrorism, threatening U.S. security.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
  165. Emory

    Jack,

    I agree with you, this area has always been unstable. Do we really think that we are going to bring Democracy to this lawless place? I say we accomplished our goal; Osama Bin Laden is dead and the Al'qaida have moved on to Pakistan and Yemem Lets pull our troops out and rebuild our Military so that it can be ready for the next battle.

    Emory

    May 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
  166. Dennis Pence

    Jack,

    We will be mired in Lybia as well under the mighty auspice of the UN (Useless Nothing) – what's next – Iran probably, or maybe Syria. We lack leaders in this country and it is high time people wake up and understand that these Ivy League educated elite can only run this country one way – Into The Ground! If they could hold a real job, they would probably be in business – but then they would be held accountable when they screw up. How many jobs do you know of that when you screw up as badly as they have that the boss says "Hey, in 2 or 3 years or so – we are going to fire you. You can do a lot of damage in that period of time – as currently evidenced.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
  167. Chris Burchstead

    Get out now! Afghanistan is becomming Vietnam 2. We will never win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people. Our international mandate was to get Bin Laden, and we did. The Taliban are no real threat to our national security. Dust off Bush's "Mission Accomplished" banner, land on an aircraft carrier, and call it a day.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
  168. Sid

    Jack,

    The mission from Day One should have been to kill Osama Bin Laden and then leave Afghanistan. You will never turn Afghanistan into West Germany. The Soviets fought the US trained forces in Afghanistan with all the might of a superpower but still failed. They even fought without a conscience but still no cigar. The only choice for the US is to ask the help of all the states in the region including the most important state, Iran. Perhaps the US should have let the Soviets do the job back in the 80's. The Soviets might not have won in Afghanistan but at least they were smart enough to accept defeat and retreat.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  169. Mit K.

    It is already " ENOUGH" now. We went to Afghanistan to get OBL. He is no more now. It is now proved beyond doubt that all terrorist network is creation of Pakistan's ISI and they execute their plan using retired ISI or military personnel. The large amount of money we give to them is used for military purposes which includes nukes, missiles and terrorism. We look the other way and still try to placate them because we need access to Afghanistan. If we simply quit Afghanistan Pak will have no leverage with us. We should stop giving money which really funds terror organizations. If required, we can use a fraction of the money we are spending for war to fund specific projects for development and provide secular education to kids and wean away kids from getting educated in terror building, Jehad teaching Madarasas. Other wise we are going to loose men and money while both Af-Pak will become a lost civilazation due to strife.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
  170. David

    Bushee did not get the job done – even tho he had Osama in his sights, and had to start a second war in Iraq. Obama got OBL. Seems like the Pubs forget to quick on certain stuff – including raising the Debt limit without a squawk anytime Bush asked for it!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
  171. Cy Gardner

    You want to heal the sick? Screw 'em, we're broke. You want to shelter the elderly? Screw 'em, we're broke. You want to feed children? Screw 'em, we're broke. You want to save people's jobs so that they keep paying taxes instead of collecting unemployment? Screw ' em, we're broke. You want to blow up stuff or provide Iraq with universal health care or subsidize the folks who hid Bin Laden? Step right up, we've got money for that. This country is sick, sick, sick. cy from Arlington, Va

    May 31, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
  172. Zach G.

    We got our man, time to get out of Afghanistan. We need to stop sending young men to their doom and bring those in harm's way back home.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
  173. Dee in New Paris Ohio

    Enough has BEEN enough for quite some time now. The problem is, apparently those "in charge" haven't noticed it!

    We need to get OUT of Afghanistan, Iraq, and just about all other places where we have "boots on the ground" (what a stupid term!).

    Only those who are getting rich on the wars and the real nuts in the military think staying in these wars is a god idea. Those with common sense see that the wars and our intrusiveness in the business of other countries does nothing but make us hated. (Oh, yeah, and a few people rich)

    The American People need to start standing up, like many did against the Vietnam war, and tell our REPRESENTATIVES that we want out, NOW. Enough IS enough!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
  174. Susan, Denver

    We're way past "enough." When bin Laden, our excuse for being there, left the country, we should have also.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
  175. James Webb

    It was enough before the United States Military ever set foot in Afghanistan.

    Jim in Wisconsin

    May 31, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
  176. David Lauryn

    We should accelerate our withdrawal to achieve a presence closer in size to that recommended by VP Joe Biden as soon as possible. We cannot afford the current scope of our intervention in terms of lives, injuries, or money. Remember that injuries to our troops both physical and mental will continue to cost our treasure for many decades–for a lifetime–to say nothing of the cost to those injured which we cannot measure.

    David Lauryn, Chicago

    May 31, 2011 at 5:43 pm |
  177. jeff

    a few problems with it. one is we are killing innocent people by accident. that is no good. two is the people in the region take as much money from us as possible acting like they are doing the right thing and do not. the tribes there seem to not care either way if it is the west or the taliban that are telling them what to do. how different is the region from when they were all colonies of some western power? the taliban are a bunch of bullies. they kill innocents on purpose. we do by accident. i learned in grade school that sometimes the best way to stop a bully is to bloody their nose once or twice. it seems the west has done that and it is time to leave them to fend for themselves. i am sad though you cannot help someone that does not do their best to help themselves.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  178. DrJeff

    I agree with Ron Paul here. We should not be in the business of nation building or policing the world for capitalism. We should have no wars for influence, money and oil. This "war on terror" is a business war, a war for oil and domination, and weapons manufacturers. If we brought back all our troops from all over the world and led by example instead of bloodshed, our economy would instantly be balanced and the surplus money we would then have could fund our schools, our research, our infrastructure and our future way of life. I think we should export peace and not war.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
  179. Joe from Brigantine, NJ

    Simple logic says "lets get the hell out of there". However, the Military/Industrial complex who are getting promotions, medals and a ton of money out of this debacle says "why hurry"? Noe Go Out Period.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
  180. Dr. Carlos M Alcocer Bunker

    We got Bin Laden, we can get the others with patience and no boots on the ground. The corruption and socially inherent mistrust of the Afghan population to outsiders, makes this a no-win situation, as has been in their history. NATO and the United States involvement only gives fuel to the Taliban and other Islamist militants. The political solution lays within in Afghan citizens to settle their differences and define their future in either further needless killing or finding a consensus, so that all of their citizens can have peace, liberty, the pursuit of happiness and a Government not driven by warlords, but empowering people to have a say in their Government, security and prosperity.

    We in the west cannot install western values on a society that is tribal and still live in a feudal state. The prudent action all our world leaders must take, is to withdraw and allow the Afghan to their own determination. President Hamid Karzai is not a friend of NATO nations and does not appreciate the sacrifices of so many lives both western and their own population, as the political corruption is supported by his actions and will not be abated until his Government faces the reality, that the safety net is no longer there, that has protected him.

    Throw the dice and where they fall, that will be the future of Afghanistan, time to leave and allow destiny to guide these people, hopefully for peace and prosperity, not radical ideology or fundamentalist extremism.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  181. Bob

    Jack, the question is good the answer is simple BUT our politicans stopped caring what we think years ago.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
  182. just mike

    I wouldn't presume to know a time table for the mess which was necessary to engage but impossible to exit as we have witnessed from other world powers. However from the mess I see looking at sources which Obama inherited, kudos to him. What a mess and how could you even begin to settle the attacks origins, the expanding terror watch and the ominous sub prime debacle we all brush by and go what have you done for me lately. Take a breath, do it right America, follow through on foundations for our future not the haste and push of our every day lives.

    Mike M.
    Valley Forge, Pa.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
  183. Thomas

    Jack – Do our leaders read and understand history? Or is it a requirement to have a single digit IQ to be a leader? I say get out of Afghanistan and all other countries the US has a military presence.

    Seattle

    May 31, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
  184. Jack - Lancaster, Ohio

    Mr. Cafferty:

    What a disturbing question. I am afraid that the perspective of what is "enough" has no solution. Those in the WH, the military industrial complex (which Eisenhower warned about) obviously think that if you lose on one war you can make it up in volume (more wars). What happened to the theory that a wartime economy is a prosperous one? That has not worked. What works is the easy route for those protecting their political careers, it is easier to borrow from China, raise the debt ceiling, send massive foreign aid to our enemies, than to create a stable American economy. Peacetime management is more difficult, and little reward, I guess.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
  185. Padraig

    Amazing how our leaders go into these things blindly and not do the research of that area. Within 5 minutes the red flags would have been up on how no one could control Afghanistan.

    It is time to get out of Afghanistan and Iraq and let them live in the mess they created. I don't expect President Obama to have an effective exit plan. I don't think President Bush could do this as well.

    Libya is another fiasco. This was another huge costly mistake.

    Let's get out of all three locations and worry about the people who are willing to make a difference in their lives without spewing hatred and biting the hand that protects them.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
  186. Steve in Portland

    How many times does it take to recognize an "un-win-able war", Jack?

    May 31, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
  187. Khalid Darwish -- NY, NY

    There are 350,000,000 million Arabs in the Middle East yearning for freedom. Let's help them and help ourselves in the process (i.e. with economic partnerships). It would be nice to have 350,000,000 allies instead of 350,000,000 enemies. Start with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
  188. Conor in Chicago

    If you are not going to invade Pakistan then just go home. Of course we are not going to invade Pakistan. So....GO HOME!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
  189. joyce

    Jack –Ten years ago I thought that one life was more than enough.
    Now I know that we are ten years late in getting out. No more lives
    lost, no more money and no more excuses. Obama - You want changes. Start on 7/1 with our withdrawal. A true American who voted for Obama and respects this country - not right or wrong - only right.
    Joyce

    May 31, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
  190. Connie in MN

    'Teaching children to hate us" ... It is not just in Afghanistan, but from Pakistan to Sudan to Bangladesh, etc. And it's not just the Taliban terrorism, it's extreme Islam. Outside of closing the airspace from the East, the threat will always be. It cannot be won with war.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
  191. Jim from LA, CA

    Jack,

    Guerilla wars are messy. No clearly identifiable enemy, hit and run tactics, no clear tangible objectives. It is not the kind of war the United States, or any country for that matter, is good at. It takes a lot of patience and time to be successful. Regardless, the United States probably has the best trained military in counter-insurgency operations in the world. What we do not have is a public and a political leadership that has the staying power for a successful counter-insurgency war. And, obviously, to be successful, you need a host country that has a desire to defeat the insurgents and become a viable nation and you need border countries that will not probvide safe havens. I agree that Afghanistan is a long shot, but all we can do is provide some time for the Afghans to get it together. It is up to them to win this war, whatever that means to them. But if they allow the Taliban back in control and Al-Qaeda back, they should expect periodic cruise missile attacks or worse. The bigger problem really is Pakistan. I am comfortable that the President, with the aid of our military leadership, will make prudent decisions with respect to the drawdown of U.S. forces. We cannot stay there forever, nor should we. We must acknowledge the limits of our power and influence. So we should start the drawdown when the conditions on the ground are right according to the judgement of our leaders. You can always express your opinion in 18 months in the 2012 elections.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
  192. Royal Harrier

    Enough is enough. America needs to learn to swallow its inflated pride and know when to step out of the arena. There is no easy path to victory in the Middle East, not even for a country with such a strong military. Did the US "lose" this war? Was it a stalemate? Who cares. Leave that for history to decide. Right now we have more pressing matters at hand on the domestic front.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:54 pm |
  193. Jen

    Leave now and don't stop there. Get fully out of Iraq too. It is time for both countries to truly stand up on their own. If you keep a crutch there they never will. Enough American blood, enough American money just get out.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:55 pm |
  194. richard

    Good article and good questions Jack. Russia invested ten years in Afghanistan before they saw the hand writing on the wall. We will be there 50 years from now. Lithium Jack, lithium. Afghanistan is full of it. They make batteries out of it.

    May 31, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
  195. Jerry in California

    The way our soldiers in Afghanistan would be in violation of the Geneva Convention if they were P.O.W.s. Conditions are deplorable, food borne illness are wide spread, sanitation and flies add to the misery. These men and women are serving in an all volunteer military in over crowded and dangerous conditions which are not secure from attack and are hazardous as far as electrical and fire protection are concerned. No wonder morale is low.

    Either clean it up or shut it down.!!!

    May 31, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
  196. Erik

    Thousands of lives and billions of dollars just to stop on the 2 yard line?
    There is still an organized threat to the United States being cultivated there that is just waiting to re-create another 911 scale attack. I say bring them home soon, but not until we get the job done. Lets not let our tremendous sacrafice be anything less than triuphant! -Erik

    May 31, 2011 at 5:58 pm |