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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
You can tell there's an election coming. President Obama traveled to El Paso, Texas, to deliver a speech this afternoon on immigration reform. He talked about the economic benefits of immigration overhaul and about increasing the number of border guards from the days of the Bush Administration. Of course, he stopped short of talking specific immigration legislation.
Because of the federal government's refusal to secure this nation's borders, many states have taken it upon themselves to pass their own legislation.
Arizona passed a controversial illegal immigration law last year. It requires police officers to investigate the immigration status of any person they stop who they think may be an illegal immigrant. The law also makes it a crime to not carry immigration paperwork while in the state. You know, just like you're required to carry a driver's license if you drive a car. The U.S. Department of Justice sued to block the Arizona law and won. A three-judge panel of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals found the law to be unconstitutional. But Governor Jan Brewer said yesterday that Arizona will appeal directly to the U.S. Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is already set to rule in a case on another Arizona immigration law in the coming weeks, one that dissolves businesses that repeatedly knowingly hire illegal aliens.
If it wins the case, Arizona will need some help enforcing this new law on its own. Which is why it is asking for public donations to fund its legal defense of the law and to construct a fence between Arizona and Mexico. And it's getting them. So far, the state says the response has been very positive. The people of Arizona are tired of waiting for Washington to enforce the federal immigration laws already on the books.
Here’s my question to you: Should Arizona be allowed to enforce its own immigration law?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Gerry in Ash Fork, Arizona:
You bet Arizona should be permitted to enforce its state-enacted immigration laws. The federal government has been derelict in enforcing existing laws and failed miserably to control our southern border. The last time there was any U.S. control over our border was during the Truman and Eisenhower administrations.
Since Washington doesn't have the guts to enforce the laws on the books, absolutely Arizona should enforce the federal law that they essentially made into a state law. I, for one, am sick of the catering to illegal aliens who rape our education and health care systems then stick us with the bill.
Here is another case where the Constitution becomes suddenly inconvenient. Opening the door on this could lead to an endless stream of constitutional challenges in all kinds of jurisdictions from any governor looking to make a name for themselves. It has the potential to paralyze the federal government and waste a whole lot of court time and taxpayer dollars. No thank you to that. Play the hand you're dealt.
Dave in Flora, Illinois:
Definitely. As long as the federal government keeps burying its head in the sand over immigration reform. Part of the reason California is broke is due to the taxation that the illegals have on our healthcare system and social services. They are taking our tax dollars and giving them to help people that have broken the law and do not belong here.
Joyce in Marshall, Texas:
No. Its real intent is to generate income for its prisons. If you want greater chaos, try enforcing 50 different laws.
Rose in Glendale, Arizona:
Yes, Arizona should be allowed to enforce our immigration laws. The federal government has not done the job. To really know what is going on here, one needs to read our local papers or watch our local newscasts. The illegals feel they have the same rights as American-born citizens and expect to be taken care of. Frankly, I am tired of paying for their needs.
The choice between Arizona enforcing immigration laws and nobody enforcing immigration laws should be obvious to both idiots and Supreme Court Justices, if you'll pardon the redundancy.
Not unless they're going to secede and be their own country. As long as they're part of the United States, the federal government controls immigration law. If tey do decide to secedfe, I say don't let the doorknob hit 'em....
I can understand WHY Arizona wants to enforce it's own laws, but they shouldn't for good reason. If the SCOTUS allows such a landmark decision in favor of AZ, it opens up Pandora's Box. Other states may follow in crafting their own laws, and we'll have multiple foreign policy approaches that encroach on Federal policy. Then people will just cross the border of the state with the most loopholes.
yes,yes,yes, and this government should abide by the laws of this country and enforce our immigration laws. Our immigration laws are not broken but many who want to have what they want at the expense of the citizens of this country is committing an act of treason. Both parties in congress the president and many State and Local gov. figures are not addressing the invasion and the total destruction that millions of illegal aliens bring to this country not just border states but the entire country.This group had better be careful another amnesty of any kind will be the 8th this one will destroy this country. to the pro amnesty crown this will be a third world nightmare that never ends. 1986 agreement to grant amnesty to 3 million and to never grant another was a lie this one will be the 8th. I have no confidence in any facet of the governing bodies throughout this country.
H..l Yes !
Since the Feds chose NOT to enforce immigration laws
the states have no other option..
The Feds forget that each State has its own Constitution
which requires the State to protect its citizens.
The Supreme Court is out of touch with reality!!
Of course not. What would come next, permitting the New Hampshire National Guard to invade Canada? ...or for the Tea Party Free State of Kentucky to declare war on Kenya? We need a coherent national immigration policy. Just make our legislators do their jobs.
Yes the Arizona law does is not against the constitution, and only seeks to enforce existing laws not being enforced.
In fact not enforcing federal law could be said to be anti-constitutional behavior.
Perhaps we should have the federal government declared unconstitutional?
Janet Napalatano was the Governor of Arizona and she fought our sheriff for rounding up illegals. She is blind to the fact that the alians are draining our resources, such as wellfare and hospitals, and they don't pay taxes, so the taxes that are paid, will not support all of them. Also the drug wars are killing people by the thousands so yes for Arizona taking a stand to ward off the influx of non tax paying people and draining our state of revenue. Our borders are far from safe but yet they keep coming over and we are supporting them.
No, Jack, they need to follow the US Constitution like they swore an oath to do. The Supremacy Clause clearly states that federal statutes are "the supreme law of the land" and supersedes any state law. But after activist Chief Justice Roberts found for Citizens United, all bets are off!
Don't you think that someone needs to do it? If not now, then when? If not AZ, then who? Surely won't be Washington (DC). Someone needs to take a stand.
Not unless the Constitution is amended.
Since the federal government is not too eager to enforce the immigration laws beyond flagrant criminal behavior, and Arizona is in the cross-hairs of the cost, crime, and social dsruption caused by illegal traffic, I would hope that the Supreme Court lets AZ do what they can. As an alternative, the SCUS should allow AZ to sue the federal government for dereliction of duty under the Constitution.
The Supreme Court should not allow AZ to enforce its own immigration law. Immigration is an issue of the nation not of the state, if AZ is allowed to enforce their own law that will set the precedence for all states to be able to do the same.
YES........................YES.........................a thousand times YES !!
But today's Supreme Court is a far cry from the original concept of a decent, common sense Court where American values were not flushed down the toilet of a "New" enlightened world. A world gone mad.
The state of Arizona is only trying to do what our Federal Gov't. hasn't the morals, courage, and/or decency to do.
I applaud them.
No they shouldn't. This issue is a national issue, not a "state" issue.
If AZ is allowed to have their own immigration law, that leaves the door open to up to 50 different immigration laws to be passed. For crying out loud; those who want less government, this will add 50 layers more to try to follow if your business is a national one, and an increase in legal costs. Our country's elected state and federal leaders just make me shake my head in disbelief and disgust at times!
It shouldn’t be necessary, but if the rest of the government refuses to secure our southern border, and if AZ is willing, I say let them, with my thanks. If the Supreme Clowns refuse to permit border security, then I’d have to say our own government is deliberately placing Americans and our country at risk. That is treason in my books and that means that a coup or revolution is something we need to think about.
No, I don't think they should be allowed to have their own immigration laws. It would be opening up pandora's box. If they are allowed then we would end up with 50 states having their own immigration laws. What we need is United States to enforce their immigration laws that are already on the books.
Since there is nothing in their law that is not included in the Federal law, the better question is should the states be allowed to enforce Federal laws if the US Attorney General refuses to enforce them. In my opinion the answer to that question is YES.
Whether for or against immigration reform or whether you deem this particular law necessary or extremely offensive, if the state law does not violate the constitution the SCOTUS will have to recognize the state's right to have this law. If the law is proven unconstitutional, the state's sovereignty cannot outweigh America's.
Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and California all share their southern borders with a country that can no longer control the corruption and violence that defines it. Our federal government has shown little interest in closing the borders until control can be achieved, so until that day, if it ever comes, I think those four states should be given free reign to protect themselves in any way their citizens deem appropriate. Why have states rights if you can't apply them?
No. What should happen is Democrats and Republicans should admit publicly that the reason no one ever does anything about illegal immigration is because our food economy is based on cheap illegal labor and deporting, or by extension, not allowing surplus labor in Mexico to come to the US will result in extreme social unrest in Mexico, thus destabilizing our southern border to an unacceptable point.
Like it or not our economy is based on cheap food industry labor and Mexico has a massive surplus of cheap labor to export lest it collapse under the weight of hordes of unemployed laborers. This issue will not change no matter how much lip service is paid to it by politicians. This is the reality. Move on to something else.
I do believe that Arizona should be able to enforce its own. I have lived here for 24 years and have seen it get worse.
When you sit back and look at the main picture. Arizona is being told 'who cares' by people that have never been to Arizona. Our own President is making his FIRST trip since taking office to the U.S.-Mexican border today. Maybe its time that all these lawmakers stop thinking Republican/Democrat and start thinking U.S.A. They are too busy fighting between parties to actually listen to the people that put them there.
They shouldn't have to resort to this as we have good laws that the Federal Government needs to enforce. The is not an Arizona issue, it is an American issue that affects all states. And no there shouldn't be any gift of becoming a citizen.
You really can't have states making up separate immigration laws. Next thing you know, each state will have their own set of laws controlling who can and cannot live there. The last time we had those kinds of laws, we had a civil war...do we really want to go there again?
Absolutely yes!! As long as Congress and pres. Obama refuse to address the elephant in the room..... returning outsourced Jobs!! And if all the Americans were working, no one would be paying attention to the illegal immigration problem anyway. What we need to do is end the continued welfare of the families of the anchor babies. The baby can stay w/out the family. Provided that the infant can enter a contract for services, ie.find employment, rent property, gas, lights, water. And since when does a baby born here have the right for a free handout?? That part is totally immoral and wrong in so many ways. Good for AZ!!
This is a red herring issue. President Obama has decided to stop enforcing U.S. immigration law. Arizona had the the right to enforce federal law and to implement policies for that enforcement in the absence of any federal guidance on the issue. The real issue, which the Supreme Court will not be addressing, is how can we get a President to protect the rights of the American people, when he seems to more concerned about the rights of everybody else in the world.
I cannot find anything in the Constitution that says a State cannot enforce its own laws as well as Federal laws especially if the Feds will not do their job. -Crescent City, CA
No,No,No, If we are to Remain The United States of America, instead of the Divided States of America then No!
Jack I think every state should handle it's own immigration laws. This government can't handle anything as it is. Why let them handle anything important. Besides this gives O more time for golf and bball. Also maybe work in a few more vacations.
no, let the federal government do it as a country of law. we should push the member of congress to do their job.
I don't think Arizona is trying to enforce its own immigration laws. It's trying to enforce the FEDERAL laws that the Feds won't enforce themselves.
I don't believe that Arizona is creating laws that determine who is eligible to come into the country or the state, and I don't believe they're determining who is eligible to work. The Federal e-Verify system determines that.
Besides, if the Federal government sets the precedent that a state cannot enforce Federal law, and a state cannot create its own law that mirrors Federal law so that state law enforcement can enforce it, they've just invalidated all the drug laws nationwide. State and local police will no longer be able to enforce any drug laws, only the Federal DEA will be able to.
And there aren't enough DEA agents to fight the drug war all by themselves throughout the country.
Absolutely, and it should be found to be acceptable for every other state in the union, that wants to use it.
Jack: No, the Supreme Court should not allow Arizona to enforce its own immigration laws. The U.S. Constitution does allow states to enforce their own immigration laws. Immigration laws and enforcement are the federal government's job, but states and local law enforcement can enforce existing federal immigration laws in their jurisdiction. Local and state authorities can arrest and hold illegal immigrants, but prosecution and imprisonment is a federal right.
Arizona should be allowed to enforce its new law as long as they ALSO enforce the laws that punish the business owners who hire illegal’s too.
If business owners are allowed to continue to skirt the law and hire illegal’s willing to work for less pay than American workers, the "immigration" issue will never be anything more than a "political posturing hot button" for politicians to push before each and every election.
If your worthless leader Obama doesn't want to do anything about the problem then yes..
If they do there's no reason for a national Supreme Court. We'll just break it down to 50 countries.
Yes they should, Arizona like Texas is facing huge in a huge influz of illegals . No american should have to cover the expenses of Illegals. The government fails to do it's job to protect Americans. They would rather protect foreign borders like Korea, Iraq, Afganistan.
The people in Arizona have got themselves in a complete dither over illegal immigrants, to the point that they describe themselves as being invaded and attacked. Its as though they think these people are coming over armed to the teeth to rape, plunder, and pillage, when in actuallity they are no different than any other wave of immigrants. Poor people looking for a better life.
If Arizona wants to spend their own money to enfore their laws, let them. After a period of enforcing their laws, they will come to see that the immigrants actually have a positive impact, but only after they no longer can find reliable hosekeepers and yard men.
The Mexican workers I have hired have been reliable and hard working with strong family values. I found out one worker I had hired had given me bogus documents. I always withheld the appropriate payroll and income taxes, which he will never get back. The notion that these people are a drain on society is ridiculous.
Jack, my siblings live in Phoenix/Tucson. The people coming across the borders are not just Mexicans. The border patrol is also catching people who only speak Arabic. One has to live there in order to really know what the big picture is.
Why not? It's the same as the federal law that is wrongfully ignored by the feds.
Absolutly Jack. The federal government has no intention of dealing with illegal immigration. The states have no choice but to take matters into their own hands.
No. It's not even a close call. There is no 10th Amendment right for states to interfere in Federal affairs. You would think the Arizona legislature could have found some adult to stop what was obviously a doomed bill. Guess they could not find one. This bill was always about grandstanding to the base – however it alienates the future and dooms the GOP to a quick death.
I dont even know why the question. Big bussiness is bad bussiness .
They will decide for the unsupereme court.
Cheap labor that will compete with your kids for jobs.
Of course you will have to bring in there famially .
No jobs they will go home .These criminals climbed walls ect broke laws the congress and obama is a criminal for chastizing the sherriff for enforcing immagration laws. Hes a criminal Sorry wrote thia in a hurry no one will read this anyway
If the Federal Laws are not being enforced or ignored then yes any state should be able to enact laws to protect its citizens both in safety and expenses. We here in Iowa have all of the meat processing facilities that Jesus will be there no matter what and the big employers love that so when they don’t pay them there is nothing they can do. They have filled up the schools in the town just north of here and now the theater runs only Spanish language movies.
No, immigration is a federal issue. Therefore, jurisdiction over the laws that surround it, should be left up to the federal government.
Yes , and I am still trying to figure out why the feds have a problem with the states enforcing and supporting federal laws. What would happen if the states all just stopped enforcing other federal laws? Most of us are to young to remember a time when all criminals had to do is cross a county border /line or a state border/line to escape capture or prosecution. Dose this seem like we are going backwards to anyone else in the enforcement of individual laws ie immigration, taxes, drugs, 2nd amendment.
It appears to me that the federal government dose not want to fix the immigration problems until we are with in 18 to 24 mouths of there next election democrat or republican they all smell like rats. We all know that they are not going to make a good faith effort at the least. Why don’t we put the questions to the tax payers the elect it, in 2012 on the federal ballet simple questions. Do you want the border secure from illegal immigrants? (YES) Do you want to send illegal’s back to there country of birth? (YES) Do you want the border closed so the illegal drugs? (YES) Do you want armed federal troops on the borders to ensure all illegal actives stops? (YES) Do you want to declare war with Mexico till they gain control of the actions coming from there nation to the United States of America? (YES) more people die dew to the lack of security at the Mexico and United States border per year than in Iraq or Afghanistan over the past ten years So let the states take care of there problems.
Council Bluffs ia
Should the U.S. Supreme Court allow Arizona to enforce its own immigration law?
Yes! They should also take the cost of the lawsuit out of the Obama administration’s salaries and entitlements! Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans want to secure the border because it will cut off the Socialist Supply of Slave labor to their friends!
What I want to know is why we are band from Private Property Rights in Mexico, but Socialist Mexicans have the right to own property and businesses here! This country needs to cut odd all the benefits to foreigners who live in Countries that don’t afford U.S. Citizens equal rights in their own Countries!
Arizona along with any other state should of course be allowed to enforce its own immigration laws. They should enact laws for the good of the state as the Federal Government seems incapable of dealing with this issue. The Border States are bearing the brunt of the cost of immigration reform inaction so the Federal Government has no business trying to dictate to them what they may or may not do within their own borders. My wife is an immigrant and we did all of the procedures correctly to get her here at great cost in time and money but we are both proud of that and this year she will become a citizen. If you come here legally and pay your dues then stay and be American. If you chose to come here illegally then get out and stay out NOW!
That depends on how you interpret the Constitution.
Arizona should be allowed to enforce it's own immigrations laws if the other 49 States and the Federal government agrees to modify the U.S Constitution to allow all 50 states to craft,legislate, codify and enforce their own individual immigration laws.
The citizens of Arizona pay taxes. Those taxes pay for schools and hospitals and other public services. The flow of illegals into Arizona adds a burden to those taxpayers. The federal government, for political reasons, does not seem to want to keep illegals from entering the country in general and Arizona in particular. Therefore the state has to protect its citizens if the federal government refuses to do so. What should be the answer to your question? If you are a Democrat and would benefit from illegals, the answer is no. If you are an American who is tired of paying for others when it's so difficult to support your own family.... the answer is YES.
No. How and who would be subject to these new laws?
I heard on the CNN news today a women who was an advocate of, her words, undocumented peoples rights.
Personaly. I think that the only rights yhey is a short visit here and then a speedy return to where it is that they came from.
However she included Pourto Ricans among them. The last I heard Pourto Rico was a U.S. territ. and as such its citizens were U.S citizens.
A lot of people have the facts wrong.
If one was trav. across AR, would they, if they stoped for gas, be arrested? If they were on thier way to an airport to go home, wherever that might be, would they be arrested at the airport?
Lots of questions, no easy asnswers. METALWORKER in IL
No. But AZ law enforcement officers, including municipal and county LE, should be empowered to arrest, detain, and refer illegal immigration cases that occur within their jurisdictions. They should be allowed to take a proactive approach which includes patrolling and raiding known hangouts.
One thing AZ can do without stepping on federal toes is create and aggressively enforce state laws prohibiting the hiring of illegal aliens or renting residential property to illegals. They can also force employers to document all of their hires, especially day labor, for tax purposes, and require that only properly credentialed people be given jobs. They can make strong laws against presenting false documents to employers carrying stiff sentences (sentences that can be avoided if they agree to surrender to INS for deportation}.
The point is, there are plenty of things AZ can do without creating its own immigration laws.
Yes Arizona should be allowed to enforce their immigration law. I believe the Arizona immigration law is the one righteous thing in this whole mess, and is about the rule of law.
The judge that enjoined part of the law was clearly being political to advance her career, and is blatantly contemptuous of her oath.
By not satisfactorily enforcing immigration law, I believe the President and Congress clearly are being political to advance their careers, and in contempt of their oaths of office.
Our courts, President, and Congress must not be above the law. Contemptuous of the law, they should be tried, convicted, and sent off to jail.
Absolutely. Arizona has every right to enforce it's own immigration laws since the Federal government will not because it is "politically incorrect".
You bet Arizona should be permitted to enforce its state enacted immigration laws and existing federal laws. Additionally, in the enforcement of federal laws the feds should be forced to pay when the state iis doing their job. The federal government has been derelict in enforcing existing laws and failed miserably to control our southern border. The U.S. Constitution mandates that the Federal Government controls our borders. The last time there was any U.S. control over our border was during the Truman and Eisenhower administrations.
Ash Fork, Arizona
Definitely. As long as all three branches of our government keep burying their heads in the sand over immigration reform. Part of the reason California is broke is due to the taxation that the illegals have on our healthcare system and social services. They are taking our tax dollars and giving them to help people that have broke the law and do not belong here. Yet the GOP wants to cut medicare and medicaid for our seniors and poor and what is left of the middle class.
YES, they share a border and its a problem. If they want to enforce the law go for it.
What Arizona needs is to be able to enforce the already existing laws both Federal and state to curb illegal immigration in their state. The Federal government does not want to enforce the law and that leaves Arizona all alone like a man without a country. The federal government needs to step up and do their job and if they are not willing to then the state should be able to do it for them. What part of illegal does our government not understand? Your either suppose to be here or your not. There is no gray area.
Sure, let 'em try it out. Interesting social experiment. And good Arizonan citizens will suffer or benefit by their own hand. A 2 yr study will hugely benefit one case or the other!
Yes. Yes. Yes. If there are 11 million illegals in the U.S. and just 30% of them have jobs then shipping them back home would create 3.1 million jobs. And in the process we would rid our market of employers who stake out their place by paying slave wages. Arizona has it right and let's all support their effort to clean up a problem that has been left to fester while the politicians take surveys and see which way the wind is blowing
They should be aloud to be a state law can not over rule a federal law. In addition all our police are way to busy to inforce such laws with a big bust on the guys that mow your lawn or bus your tables.
Such laws are a waste of time if they do a crime they should do tme here not sent back only to come back here.
Yes Jack, since the federal government won't enforce existing laws Arizona should be allowed to enforce their own. Three basic things define a nation. 1. Defined Borders 2. A Common Language and 3. A Common Culture. In an effort to be politically correct Americans have given up all three. We'll discuss this problem and pass laws allowing amnesty and paths to citizenship and all the while not secure the border which ensures we can discuss this in the future over and over again. We'll continue to blame everone else for the problem but never blame those who knowingly break our laws when they cross the border illegally. PRESS 1 FOR ENGLISH NOW!
Should Arizona be allowed to enforce its own immigration law?
Only if they chose to not be part of the USA any longer. Immigration is a Federal matter.
Food for thought Jack, GW Bush stated as governor of Texas that he couldn't do anything about illegal immigration in his state and as president he didn't even touch the issue.
This is really nothing more than TEATARDS trying to force the agenda that they want, not the agenda important to regular Americans – JOBS.
No jack because it opens up a HUGE "can of worms" about govenment authority and civil liberties. are people now going to have to have a passport to travel from Nevada or California to Arizona?
I know many people esp in the desert southwest are frustrated about the lack of border inforcement BUT the way to correct that is to put pressure on federal officials in Washington NOT trying to become "The Peoples Republic of Arizona"
The Government is REQUIRED by the Constitution to protect the states from foreign invasion and domestic violence according to Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution and have negligent. What choice does it leave states when the U.S. Government is purposely avoiding it's obligations? If they don't smarten up, people are going to start using their 2nd Amendment rights!
If companies would stop employing illegal aliens then there would be no reason for them to come here. Arizona would have no illegal immigration problem to enforce. Our government needs to pass legislation that prohibits anyone from hiring an undocumented worker and enforce that law to the fullest extent. Then and only then will illegal immigration come to a halt. Every person that works in America should have a Social Security number assigned to them and verified yearly by their employer.
Yes, Arizona should be allowed to enforce our immigration laws. The Federal Gov't. has not done the job that needs to be done. People across the nation see what is happening here in Arizona in a very limited manner. To really know what is going on here one needs to read our local papers or watch our local new casts, it paints a different picture. The illegals feel they have the same rights as American born citizens and expect to be taken care of. Frankly, I am tired of paying for their needs. They need to become citizens the way the law describes, they should not expect American taxpayers to take care of them.
Rose Glendale, Az
Yes! They need to keep working at it to try to make a difference because the Federal Government doesnt seem to. What country can we go to that would give us everything and allow us to have all citizen priveleges? The ilegals are DEMANDING and they are being catered to.
Since the constitutional purpose of the militias of the various states is to protect the borders and territories of the U.S., it is within the right of the government of AZ. to do exactly that.
What's wrong with a little bit of states rights? Let them patrol their own borders.
AZ should absolutely make it's own law(s) concerning immigration.After all,isn't that something which the 'Party of No/Less Government/Jobs are the Priority' wants?Unbeleievable.I hope that come next year,the voters can distinguish which face the right is using to promote these 'campaign priority issues.'The face they are campaigning with,or the face they use when making the backroom deals which actually control their Congressional votes.
Greg M. Largo,FL
Ballooning costs in education, health care, and law enforcement due to illegal immigration are hitting Arizona. Arizona runs the risk of losing control of its debt. The federal government can ill afford to rescue bankrupted states.
The Supreme Court must allow Arizona to enforce its own immigration laws.
YES- if the feds do not do their job, than the state has the right to protect against illegal invaders.
If the federal government refuses to enforce the law then the implication is that the states have the right to enforce their own laws. By the way, when inaugurated, the president swears to uphold the laws and defend the constitution. Why weren't Regan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr and now Obama impeached for failing to uphold the immigration laws.
"Yes, because your country is too big not to! It's more about where they are going to live! You need laws that prevents imigrants to travel any further than the said State; for at least six-ten years. Otherwise those states can get rich, while other states finish up paying the bills!!"
Here is another case where the Constitution becomes suddenly inconvenient. Opening the door on this could lead to an endless stream of constitutional challenges in all kinds of jurisdictions from any governor looking to make a name for themselves, that has the potential to paralyze the federal government and waste a whole lot of court time and taxpayer dollars. No thank you to that, play the hand you're dealt with.
NO! Arizona should simmer and settle before all of this gets incredibly out of hand...if it isn't already.
Sure, as long as it also enforces Federal laws on immigration, too. While Governor Brewer is at it, why not "balkanize" Arizona and demand papers before citizens from the other 49 states enter? I really wish she'd take a page from Gov. Perry of Texas playbook and secede.
No. It's real intent is to generate income for it's prisons. Nothing is never is enough for some and 50 different immigration laws will only hinder a solution and create more problems.
No. It's real intent is to generate income for it's prisons. If you want greater chaos, try enforcing 50 different laws. Who gets exploited?
Yes. Arizona has been waiting long enough for the federal Gov't to do something about the ever increasing influx of illegal immigrants into thier state.
After all it is Arizonas back yard and they are tired of waiting for our Gov't to decide what is politically correct.
Wake up Washington.
Arizona should be allowed to make and enforce any law it wants as long as it does not conflict with U.S. law. It should be in compliance to the Constitution. However, if they make laws just to fill private jails for profit and campaign contributions, the Federal Government must step in. Times have changed since Judge Roy Bean was the only law west of the Pecos river. Arizona must follow Federal Law. They must realize they have to pay their tax money for implementing,enforcing and continuing such laws. Politics aren't cheep. Since the illegal immigration problem is much better than past years, I wonder what Brewer's Arizona is up to.
If they wish to secede from the Union, Arizona can preempt any federal law. But that's not how our Constitution works and it's pretty cut and dry.
I don't think anyone of us are happy with the porous border allowed for years by the Bush administration to afford his friends in Big Business cheap labor. Now that the horse is out of the barn, Obama has to protect the rights of those already working here and seal the border with limited resources. It's a rock and a hard place created by years of lack of enforcement.
No Arizona must be allowed to enforce immigration laws that the federal government has not. How in God name can there be over 10 million illegals aliens in this this country and the federal government not know . It like saying Pakistan did not know or inforce that Bin Laden was living in their country for 6 years , well we have 10 million and our country and our government is donig nothing
The law is still the law and if you break the law, any law enforcement agent/agency should be able to arrest you.
We have to quit turning a blind eye, waiting for the "appropriate" agency to handle the problem. It has become too big of a problem for one agency to handle.
Yes, as long as it doesn't undermine or otherwise conflict with federal law. The Constitution says that federal law superceeds state law but allows state laws that are compatable with federal law. The Obama administration is doing nothing less than asking the courts to ammend the Supremecy Clause from the bench and transform it into a Dictatorial Clause.
Jack, I think they should. Big government has its nose into too many things. Nobody knows more of what a state needs than the state itself. If there is problems with immigration in that state then let them handle it. I understood what the President said in El Paso, Texas today and it sounds right, but as I said, the state knows the problem it has and should be allowed to handle it.
No, who is or is not a legal resident of the United States is a Federal issue.
Interstate commerce etc.
Arizona has the right idea they simply have the wrong approach to the problem. They do not need to target illegal aliens they need to target those people that employ them. If they had no work then they would not come here. If they had no job they could not afford to live here and they would go back to the home they left to come here.
We beleive that they should follow the constituion.. Although something must be done,women come over just to have children an get help from welfare, men come an take our jobs from our American men an send there monies home to there families. This is not right we are broke because we take care of other countries problems...
Until the U.S. comes up with more definitive immigration laws, I would say yes. A state should have the right to defend its own economy and borders.
Yes, that should be a no-brainer. According to Obama's claim of what the Constitution says, if state or local police would have come face-to-face Osama Bin laden, all they could do is say "have a nice day". If that's the way it is, then we need to impeach every elected official, judges included who aren't clamoring to enforce our immigration laws and truly secure our homeland.
You better believe it Jack - you better believe it. As a 34 year resident of Arizona I've seen this state literally overwhelmed by illegals of all nationalities but mostly from south of our border.
The federal government has TOTALLY IGNORED the problem and we are totally fed up with such incompetence. If the weak knees in Washington won't enforce the laws on immigration, by George, we most certainly will. And Obama can take his federal injuction against our SB-1070 immigration law and stick it where the sun doesn't shine..
A very adamant Gary in Scottsdale, Arizona
Before we have stricter immigration laws, we need stricter EMIGRATION laws – against outsourcing our jobs to cheaper slave labor markets.
YES! They have the right to protect their sovereignty and citizens from illegals, especially since Obama publicly admitted multiple times that "the Federal government wasn't doing its job"!! And that still holds true with 8 million illegals still openly working jobs that are needed by 22 million unemployed legal immigrants and citizens. That alone is costing a whopping $100B just for the last round of unemployment benefits! How much cost and how many people have to die before our immigration laws are seriously enforced?
I'm of the opinion that because we are in such complicated and dire straits regarding immigration and immigration laws, that states should given the temporary power to enact and enforce laws they feel are needed and will work for them. This may allow us to see the larger picture give us better insight into enacting laws on the federal level that will be the law of the land for all states. We may be able to see the good from the bad this way. We have no direction at this point in time and by allowing states to try to solve their immigration problems individually, it may put us on track to more stable and suitable laws.
Yes, if the feds won't the state should.
Arizona like every other state should have the right to pass any law they see fit for that state. If we are going to wait on Congress to do what is best in his Nations best interest, we are doomed. Whats purpose does Congress serve anyways. They just pass bills that dont get read anyways.
If the courts say Arizona police cannot enforce federal law, the next time someone robs a bank in Arizona they should not call the police because bank robbery is a Federal Crime!
Along with many other Federal crimes the police are asked to enforce.
Absolutely. It will bring attention to a problem that always seems to be on the back burner. Even if the ideas aren't what the federal gov't would 'want' , at least someone is doing something about it and taking action. I wish CA would make a stink and get some attention too on the issue.
Yes. The federal government has effectively declined to enforce the law.
Arizona has the right to make its own laws. Yes, the federal government is the final authority and the civil war established that, but states DO have rights under the constitution. Just because the federal gov. is the ultimate authority doesn't mean states have no rights!
The United States formed to be one union. If they don't wish to follow the constitution then they can concede. I'd think that through very carefully if I was Arizona. They could become the 34Th state of Mexico. Then again many states are beginning to go on their own health care in Mass., Governors that that think they can kill unions. Those are the things that happen when the country weakens its powers with Congresses bickering. The union has lost control since Capitalism has bought and paid for the power of congress we are no longer in a democracy. We've become one of those isms we love to hate you know like socialism and communism.
Immigration is a federal issue. Clearly a state can't make up their own immigration laws. Read your copy of the Consitution.
Anyone who pays attention to the political and financial realities comes to realize the words on paper, even the US constitution means nothing without comittment. The federal government as represented by the big four, the President, the congress, the senate, and the Supreme court are in a different workd and of a different class. If you are just a struggling tax paying worker bee you know you got trouble, you got trouble right there in your own "river city" and now it can be an entire state like Arizona. I am for state controlling what the Feds are mandated to to, but do not.
Yes the state or any state should be able to enforce the immigration laws if the federal government doesn't do the job.
I'm impressed, yet not surprised, that AZ is raising money to pay for legal fees to challenge the rulings of higher courts on immigration when they are kicking dying poor people off the organ transplants list. We truly do have our priorities backwards.
I share the frustration at our government's incompetence but
how is Arizona's behavior not vigilantism?
Absolutely. Since the Federal Government cannot or will not enforce our laws, what choice does Arizona have? We have to elect politicians who make sensible decisions and not turn even the simplest issues like this into a political issue. Lets join the rest of the civilized world and support our laws!
The strength of our union is the independence of our states. Immigration does need reform (my wife is an immigrant) however we both agree Arizona has the right and the duty to best represent her own citizens.
I would hope every state would act accordingly.
They should be allowed to as long as it is legal under the constitution. However they need to think about it further. What happens when they catch an illegal? Do they send them back over the border? What if that same illegal comes back? Do we want to forever ship them back and forth? If not do we then jail them? I can only imagine the costs involved of doing that. If they want to bankrupt their state with these bandaids they can feel free to........just don't ask the federal government to bail them out.
Yes, they should be allowed to enforce their law. Not only should they enforce it the rest of the nation should do the same. Their ILLEGAL aliens. I can't go to another country and live scott free without proper paperwork why should we allow them. We're all paranoid about terrorists and yet we continue to allow people in our country and live without any paperwork on them. If their not a citizen, have a greencard, or a visa they should not be here. We don't let Canadians come here and stay illegally. We don't allow ANYONE else to come and live here like we allow the Mexicans. If they want to come here it should be the right way. Otherwise stay in Mexico and improve your own country instead of leaching off of ours.
In my opinion If the federal government cannot or will not enforce the laws on illegal immigration then the states have the sovereign right to do so. Illegal immigration needs to be stopped. All the talk of them doing jobs that Americans will not do is nonsense. Americans will not do the jobs at the below minimum wage that the employers are paying the illegals.
Ofcourse Arizona should have the right to enforce the U.S. of America immigration laws that are ALREADY on the books.
We all know Obama is out to get the votes for 2012. So sad he is not a true American.
Absolutely. The Federal government is responsible for protecting our borders and managing immigration, both legal and illegal, but has let the country down miserably – despite pleas to uphold and enforce the laws already on the books. Formerly patient and longsuffering states have been left no choice but to do what the government is by law bound to do but consistently refuses to. Lives and livelihoods depend on it.
Absolutely, and furthermore, those politicians that have failed to uphold their sworn oath and direct that the laws be enforced should be prosecuted and recalled from office. Laws of rule are not available smorgasbord style.
No! Are you kidding me? We cannot have 50 different immigration laws going running the country. The federal government needs to finally take action in this matter. The Obama administration has done everything the Republican party has asked to take this issue up. When are they going to act? Not fixing our broken immigration system is only damaging us economically.
Sick of having this debate. Every state should have their own laws in dealing with immigration. States like Arizona, California, Texas, New Mexico, Louisiana etc. have a higher influx of immigrants compared to other states. Let them deal with it. It is effecting their state more than some other states. It will make the citizens of that state happy and the government will just have to deal with it.
No. I do not like the provision of requiring people to have immigration paperwork with them if they are stopped. Naturalized citizens like my wife, and others in my family no longer carry the green card. Their naturalizaton certificate is 8×10 and hangs on the wall at home. Federal law prohibits the copying of these documents. It would be undo harrassment to detain these individuals soley because they did not prove they belong here instantaneously.
I believe that if the federal goverment can not come to a decision in regards to our border security, then each state should be allowed to decide to protect itself.
When you are stopped by the police, they automatically check for wants and warrants to make sure you are legal to drive and that you are not running from any crime.. Az.'s law should be enforced in every state. By definition, illegal alien are ILLEGAL!! That is a crime.
Arizona can enforce any immigration law it wants when it secedes from the Union and stops taking any federal tax dollars for any program. Until you are willing to make that kind of break and establish your own country, it is "bad form" to not play by the rules.
Greenwood, South Carolina
Of course AZ should be allowed to enforce their own immigration law. The number of illegal aliens in this country has reach epic proportions– just look at Southern California. These may be good folks, but they are paying little to no taxes, and take full advantage of local and state aid and entitlement programs. We should have more states ( CA ) like AZ that are taking action in the absence of the Federal Gov.
State governments must do it because the federal government won't.
The federal government constantly stalls at closing the border. Each generation of politicians tell us they're going to close the border, but they never do. Our federal politicians are simply the greatest liars on the planet.
What is their problem? The same as yours, I think. Corporate money.
The little darlings won't get their campaign contributions (or their gifts and trips and perks and wining and dining) unless they do what corporations want. And corporations want a Third World majority, so they can move everything to China more easily.
You know all this, Jack.
ARIZONA...Doing the job the Feds won't do.
ILLEGAL is just that NOT Legal. My relatives came here from Italy via LEGAL PASSAGE. Expeditious as it may be for the wealthy – we are not, so far, the US of South America. I resent my tax dollars going to support illegals, and so should you. We have a quota system that is being ignored. WHY are we paying for others to take advantage of our earnings? VOTE AGAINST – ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
Yes – because our governent does not have the guts to send them back to where they came from. They are taking benefits from the US citizens and most of the benefits that they get, we can not get. Send them ALL BACK. If a child was born here, They have 2 choose: 1. Take the child back with them; 2. Leave them here to be adopted.
Absolutely yes! Our Federal government is so completely "bought and paid for" by the very, so-called American, industries that hire illegal aliens that there's virtually no chance whatsoever that it will step up to the bar and enforce even the existing immigration laws, much less secure the Mexican border. When the Federal government fails to protect its citizens, the state governments must step in and do the job. Illegal immigrants and the crime they bring with them is ruining this country. Anyone who has not entered this country through the legal immigration route should and must be thrown out. They are, after all, breaking the laws of this land.
If Arizonans choose to have their own Immigration laws and enforcement over the Feds, then that's fine with me... as long as they pay for it themselves and get NO FEDERAL MONEY for it. You can't have it both ways. You think you can do it better on your own then by all means, have at it. But pay for it yourselves.
If the federal government continues to punt on the issue of immigration for the sake of short term political gain, Arizona has no choice but to enforce its immigration law. The law should be changed so that EVERYONE stopped by the police should show proof of citizenship. Only something as drastic as that will show Congress and President Obama that they need to get their act together.
If the Federal Government will not protect our citizens then Arizona has to do it. Our Federal system is failing us and the states are bearing the brunt of it. We should support Arizona it its efforts, then remove the globalists in Washington come 2012.
Why is this even an issue, of course Arizona should protect its own borders. Once someone takes the lead others will follow...
If Arizona or any other state wishes to affect immigration, then they should begin by sending grown ups to Congress, then congressmen and senators can develop real law and results and quit the b.s.
does anyone realize how expensive it is to deport someone? just like all the taxes paid to lock up non-violent marijuana users. you will be paying taxes to deport illegal immigrants you;ll be paying taxes if they are in the country. Does any nation in the world really have a "common culture"?
Yes,Arizona should be able to make its own law. And let this be a lesson to the entire nation, as I wish that we had an initiation on such law in California. Entire U S A needs to be covered with the same immigration law as Arizona in order for this to work.
No! Are you kidding me? We cannot have 50 different immigration laws going running the country. The federal government needs to finally take action in this matter. The Obama administration has done everything the Republican party has asked to take this issue up. When are they going to act? Not fixing our broken immigration system is only damaging us economically.
Los Angeles, CA
No Jack I don't think Arizona should be allowed to impose their own immigration laws. My problem with this is not necessarily the concept that each state has the right to protect their borders. My problem is when states start imposing their own laws on immigration where does it stop. I agree something needs to be done and the federal government may not be acting as quickly as we would like but once we start allowing states to make laws that are designated for the federal government we start walking a very fine line.
No. We cannot have a "patchwork" of 50 immigration schemes. Arizona should pursue a suit against the United States under some other theory which addresses their inaction. I don't understand why we cannot balance a strong border policy with some humane path to citizenship for those already here? Perhaps finish building the fence in exchange for 11 million new taxpayers, who pay back taxes, fines, penalties, and learn English. Our nation's current immigration laws are NOT working. We need reform!
The illegal immigration issue in Arizona is not nearly as big of an issue as Brewer says it is. The presence of illegal immigrants is not even felt, there is no threat from illegal immigrants. The immigration issue is all a political stunt that arises every couple of years when the elections are coming. All the donations for the business crackdowns that hire illegal immigrants must me coming from right winged friends of Brewer.
I think arizona should be allowed to enforce the laws on immigration because the president and supreme court isn't allowing the homeland security to do there jobs the way it should be done.if we got rid of all immigrants the people who are jobless would be able to get jobs because the immigrants are taking over jobs. Who cares if the mexican mafia is killing people over drugs down there. We have to keep them out of north america to get our streets clean of drugs and homeless.
immigrants take many jobs that us americans want and need,they also open businesses and require americans to speak their language the state know this and the feds know this and they basically shy away from the issue, this is unfair, alot of hispanic immigrants are bankrupting states across the U.S. so Arizona is taking a stand to protect their economy and their people something that Washington has failed to do continuosly
Arizona is trying to protect its borders and economy. Should they be allowed to enforce their own laws, no. However, one caveat – let them also deny social services, drivers licenses, health care, etc. to anyone who is not a legal resident or citizen. That'll do the trick.
No, not when that law discriminates against anyone who doesn't have white skin. AZ, and the lily white legislators, right up to, and including, the governor, are a national disgrace.
Absolutely, Jack. If the federal government doesn't want to or can't, then let the states go for it. I agree with the request for money for a border wall. Can you imagine the number of construction jobs then the guards needed to patrol it? A true shovel ready project I'd endorse!
Absolutley. Obama suing Arizona because they took action to protect themselves was one of the stupidist things I ever saw in my 68 year lifetime. This is a typical example of Obama placing hispanic votes ahead of what's best for our country. This is precisely why we must not re-elect him.
Arizona should take the law into their own hands as long as the
U.S. Government does not stop illegal immigration. With all of our
Americans out of work and nothing is being done to create jobs.
Now there is talk of legalizing illegal immigrants. I thought
the last time, (back in the 1990's) illegals were legalized that was to be the first and only time................God bless our Congress, they can not
keep a promise.
Normally I would say no. However the federal government has failed to uphold the immigration laws already on the books. Therefore Arizona has every right to protect itself from foreign invaders. I'm sorry that is what illegal immigrants are.
The federal government is unable and unwilling to enforce federal immigration laws so the individual states should be allowed to pick up the slack as long as their own immigration laws do not contradict federal immigration laws. Even as a liberal I dont see a problem with Arizonas immigration laws.
if the federal goverment wont do its job and enforce the law, the state goverment should have the right to enforce the law. illegal immigrants hurt the state residents, more than federal politicans.
Jack, No, No – we are the United States for a reason and despite problems we have done well for over 230 years. To say we have done nothing to better portect our boarders is groundless and to think each state should try to do better is even a biger joke than believing in the Easter Bunny. Please let's grow up and deal with the issue as the United States of America!!
They should also raise their army to protect their borders.......No!!!!!!!!!
Yes I live in Illinois and stand with Arizona. Unions do not have to check or confirm immigration status only employers do. The only time immigration is talked about for are federal government is election time. The states need to have the right to enforce all federal laws
Absolutely Arizona should be allowed to enforce its own law. If the federal gov't is not willing to enforce and secure our borders to sustain LEGAL citizenship and national security, then states willing to do so should be allowed. Otherwise, why have legal citizenship? Why have legal borders? Is it going to take al Queda or some other terrorist group crossing the U.S.-Mexican border killing thousands of innocent people to finally secure our borders? Are we going to continue to disrespect the thousands of people who come here by LEGAL means to become LEGAL citizens by leaving our borders open to anyone & everyone?
The simple answer is YES!! I am pretty sure there is something that talks about states rights. If I remember my history right, we actually had a war over this topic and was the foundation of the Republican and Democratic parties. I believe that Arizona and all states have the right to act upon whatever actions they need to take to protect its citizens. If the Fed does not want to do the job that they are elected and paid to do, than let the states have their rights and do what the Feds can't or won't do.
Allowed? Every state has the RIGHT to enforce it's own laws. The 10th Ammendment provides States Rights and this is exactly the kind of thing that sparked the first mass cecession. If the Federal government continues to try and interfere with States Rights it won't be long before it happens again.
I think your question should be how do we get the FEDS to inforce immigration laws already on the books? Why do we have such an open border with Mexico? And why do illegals feel they have the right to come here dishonestly and expect everything? Breaking the law is breaking the law! American's can't fathom what other countires have done for decades: all citizens must carry an ID. Everyone else coming into the country must have a passport or military papers and passports are checked–at the borders, at hotels, police stops, etc. And no one thinks it is a horrible thing to have to do. I repeat: citizens of other countries carry ID papers at all times! I never left home while in Germany without my passport. DUH!
Not all Arizonan's agree with Brewers leadership. Why doesn't she focus her attention on other problems we have in our state? People on the right are so concerned with illegal immigrants getting help like food stamps and state insurance that they would like to do away with the programs altogether. As a 22 year old Arizona citizen I have a 16,000 dollar infusion every six weeks for a chronic illness. No matter your income, you can't afford that. Brewer is taking money from education and healthcare to put it into her illegal immigration agenda. Why not work on a program to help the illegal immigrants that are here already get on a path to citizenship so they can start paying taxes? Wouldn't that be like killing two birds with one stone? It seems that our leaders, and Brewer is a shining example of this, are far too hard headed to compromise and get things working again. The divisions in this country are a sad thing
YES!!! Every state should back Arizona and do exactly the same thing. Enforce our laws on immigration. I admire the people of Arizona. They are true Americans trying to protect our country from illegal aliens!
As long as it doesn't violate the constitution, of course.
Hell yes she should and I applaud her for doing it. I just think it is a shame she has to do her job as well as Obama's job. I admire her that she cares enough about the people of Arizona to provide them with the protection that our government should be doing.
Yes we do believe Arizona has the right to enforce the immigration laws that the federal government doesn't want to so the rightful citzens of Arizona is safe from drugs that cross over with the illegals plus their police enforcement officers will quit being shot at..If there was a mass immigration the other way don't you think us Americans would be allowed to cross no that is why there has been so many of our citizens shot and taken hostage in Mexico and if the Mexican government catches an Americans without proper paperwork they are thrown into jail for years without a trial.
With the unwillingness of the Federal Government to enforce existing laws, states must provide secure borders and manage the impact of undocumented aliens. I have no problem with providing a path to citizenship as long as it includes stiff consequences for those that choose to remain undocumented, i.e., deportation to the other side of a secure border! The securing of our porous borders is critical to our security. I want the income of every worker in the US to be subject to the same taxes being paid by documented workers and the citizens of this country.
In a word no. It's unconstitutional. Period. They should instead be demanding their two Republican US Senators and all their Republican Congress people to get the federal government to enforce the border. Of course that would cause them grief because where will the Republican businesses get cheap labor. They can't win for losing.
Carrying a driver's license and "immigration papers" are two different things. licenses are provided by the state, "papers" are provided by the federal government. To allow Arizona to ignore Federal laws could set a bad precedent that could seriously hurt the authority and credibility of the U.S. government. Sure, the situation is dire and many people are not happy with the current enforcement of immigration laws, but that's what today's presidential speech was all about. Though it might be a political move just ahead of the 2012 campaign season, it's an opportunity for both sides of the isle to sit down and get to work on a bi-partisan bill which they can both take credit for.
Arizona isn't being over populated with illegal immigrants, the Hispanic population are young people who were born in the USA which makes them U.S. citizen. This is no more than attempt to deny legal Hispanic people of Arizona a seat at the table to represent the districts in which they live and non-hispanics don't live. If you live in Arizona the picture of what's really happening would become more clear to all rather than hearing the negative.
Yes absolutey since the Federal goverment refuses to defend Arazona! Arazona has to defend its self. Just as a person breakes into your house and can harm you you have a right to defend yourself and so does the state.
Yes they should be alowd, definetly. but please do not complain after that if states like Utah or Illinois decide to give documents and leagle papers to the undocumented. Just be cearfull what you wish for because it can hapen.
When the illegal aliens get in and take over the backyard of some of our politicians, Congress will pass some meaningful laws, with funds to enforce them, that will deal with the immense problem of these intruders. The poeple of Arizona and other states' citizens have had enough. Our government waits until there is a full blown disaster before acting on anything. Arizona has already had citizens murdered by these unlawful marauders from across our southern border. Tough words, you bet. Tough situation, tough times!
I feel that states should be able to make their own laws when it comes to the subject of illegal immigration because there are no two states with the exact same problems when it comes to this matter. Illegal immigration is a big problem when it comes to Arizona because it is on the border. The people that are not being affected should not have an opinion about because they are not the ones that have to deal with it. They take jobs and make it difficult for American citizens like myself to qualify for certain jobs. Why do i have to be bilingual to get hired when it is just to satisfy the needs of someone that came here illegally and did not have the respect to learn the language?
Obama just said the border is now secure and it is now time to make the undocumented legal. USCIS says it is 44% secured. Arizona is the doing something, Obama plan is another amnesty in 20 years. Why are they so against Arizona, because Arizona plan will work..
no , they shouldn't be allowed. most of those behind the immigration law in AZ are not doing it because they care so much about law and order. they are anti immigrants and anti many many other things and we all know it. they are for one nation one race one culture one language on religion. and again, we all know this too well.
Arizona isn't trying to enforce IT'S OWN immigration laws, because it has none. People don't immigrate to Arizona, they immigrate to the United States. Arizona is trying to enforce the United States immigration laws, and protect it's legal population from those who have chosen to break laws and be here illegally.
Let's see here. The GOP and the Tea Party complain about how Obamacare steps on states rights, but nothing about how the Arizona immigration "law" steps on federal government rights. Brewer needs to actually take a look at her immigration "problem" before taking things to court.
Yes! Arizona is being deluged with illegals. It has cost the state much in money and manpower. It has reached a very dangerous stage and action needs to be taken. The Federal government is closing their eyes to the border state problems. Tell them to get off their pitards!
I think we should get rid of the term Illegal immigrant. Apparently it's not a crime to enter this country illegally if you're from South America anymore. You have law makers and every Civil Rights group pleading your case. My family migrated here as well but we did it the legal way and it took a long time and a lot of money but we're happy we did it. Living in South FL you meet many people from Haiti and other Caribbean nations who are sent back home swiftly without anyone caring if they have to live in diseased filled swamps. The lack of punishment for illegal immigrants encourages them to "Come on down" The price is sure right!
Arizona needs to worry about all criminals in their state. They are so focused on Mexicans, lunatics like Laughner are allowed to buy guns and use them. Hateful people like Brewer and Apiao should not be in charge.
Funny how immigration has been around over 100 years and now it's a big deal.
If you rob a federally insured bank, you have broken a federal law, but local police deal with bank robbing all the time. I could fill up an entire page on the areas where local police enforce federal law. This means that idea that the police in Arizona cannot or should not enforce federal immigration law so a red herring. The simple truth is the elites in Washington DC and elsewhere do not want immigration law enforced. Business likes the ability to hire cheap labor that cannot complaint about little matters such as getting paid. One political party sees potential voters. The losers in this bad comedy are hard working American citizens.
Arizona is not trying to set its own immigration policy; we are only trying to enforce existing federal laws that the feds refuse to enforce themselves. Lack of enforcement by the feds causes our state a wide range of problems which, in my view, are not adequately discussed in the national media so the rest of the country does not really understand the scope of the issues. It would be nice to have help from our fellow Americans rather than blind criticism.
Yes! Somebody's gotta do it. It sure isn't going to be our government.
They can enforce their own law, but they cannot contradict federal law. I'm not positive the exact letter of the law, but I think the point being made is: this is in violation of illegal searches and seizures. I've never really understood the scare of immigration anyways... Why not make it easier to become a citizen, and let them work legally, so they pay taxes? It doesn't cost us ANYTHING if we allow them to be part of the legal economy. Why do some people not understand that simple fact? The only expense here is the policing of them.
emphatically, unequivically, most assuredally without a doubt yes!!!! Or heres a novel idea...Put it to a vote. Up or down. Yes or no. THE PEOPLE SPEAK... Not the feds, not corporate lobbyists, not tree huggers, not illegal racist advocates- THE PEOPLE...Registered legit voters. We the people...
I live on Beacon Hill in Boston. In my " Commonwealth of Massachusetts" it is "illegal" to defend oneself against pretty much any form of attack. If a gang of thugs are kicking down my front door, raping my wife and children, or otherwise violating any of my natural rights, my only legal option is to notify the proper authorities who may or may not show up before the blood dries.
All states and individuals have the right of self defense. PERIOD!
The government works for us! We pay their salaries. If they are not doing their job we who are able and willing to take over will do so.
I really feel sorry for those who are incapable of understanding this.
Yes they should until the Federal government decides to start enforcing the laws that are on the books. The federal government has put the burden of taking care of these illegals and the states can'f afford it and that puts the states in a catch twenty two situation.
Jack, "States rights" were implemented by our founding fathers. In my opinion; Arizona does have every right to build a fence; not only to protect their border; but ACTUALLY secure the border from possible "radical Islamists/terrorists" disguised as Latinos, infilterating our entire nation! (not to mention the "Mexican drug Mafia" also) YES! Go Arizona. Protect yourself!..and ALL of us, inclusive. Build the damn fence!
When Arizona passed SB1070, hospital births to non-paying parents almost immediately dropped 50%. Someone needs to put a stop to our illegal alien crisis and if Obama won't, Arizona should be allowed to.
This is all about getting votes other wise we wouldn't be having this conversation. Let the states take care care of their own problems This is just meddling & posturing by the Feds they don't care about anything but getting re-elected.
Ever since the end of the Revolutionary War some states have attempted to hang on to a sovereignty which closely resembles that of modern independent nations. This existed during the historical period of the Articles of Confederation. This so called "states rights sovereignty" was prominent again as many of what were to become rebel insurrectionist states leading to their declaration of war on the United States of America. In fact the new Confederate government was able to get troops to fight this war only on a strictly voluntary basis from the participating southern states. Time and again throughout history some states have refused to comply with federal authority and federal law as delineated by the constitution articles and its amendments. The constitution has provided and the Supreme Court has ruled that immigration in all its aspects, including illegal entry, is strictly a foreign policy matter which can be dealt with by the federal government. The constitutional preemption doctrine strongly provides that the constitution and federal laws are the supreme law of the land and that whenever state laws conflict with same those state laws must stand down as being invalid. Jack, you should know all of this. You must also know that the state of Arizona has a long history of being strong on so called states rights and a long history of being anti-Mexican and that 87% of illegal aliens are Mexican and central american. The Arizona government and its popular supporters are obviously using instances of border violence during illegal entries and some incidents of violence as a result of the border drug wars to engage in its longstanding Mexican-hater profile. Arizona is aware that there are now 1,895,000 mostly Mexican origin latinos, not included those illegal aliens that weren't counted by the latest census, and that over time these populations will change the social and political fabric of Arizona away from it's extreme right wing version of states rights philosophy. These Arizonans are fighting, in any way they think they can, to maintain and continue their social and political control of Arizona life.
YES! I don't appreciate the president trying to dumb-down the immigration issue by cracking jokes about "building moats" and "higher walls". I also don't appreciate being called a racist just because I don't like "people" climbing in my garbage cans at 5 in the morning. Obviously, the majority of the critics don't live in AZ or TX.
Yes, Arizona should allowed to enforce its own immigration law. US troops should be on the southern border for US instead of in Iraq and Afghanistan for/because of Israel costing US taxpayers 1.3 trillion borrowed Chinese dollars to date printed out by the Federal Reserve as US states like Arizona and California go broke!
**Should Arizona be allowed to enforce its own immigration law?
Is Arizona a state?
Is it the will of the people?
Who's working for who...I thought the [Fed]( worked for the people (@ least use too!)]
"(?)" so I don't see a problem, let'm do what they gota do! If that means shootin'm when they cross the border, more power to'm!
After all who's state is it "The Peoples"! RIGHT!????
Jack, 'U' got an opinion?
I think and believe that Arizona should be allow to enforce their own Immigration law since the federal government had fail to stop Illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are the cause of the job lose and many public welfare. The US federal should think about the future of the illegal immigrants who are now getting free education, join army,police and many things that their children are doing.once their children are more in police and army, this country will turn into drugwar lord.
Governor Jan Brewer taking this to the United States Supreme Court:
Gov. Jan Brewer could be going up against something much bigger than she realizes several big Corporations money; the other courts might have been bought by them money talks in many ways.
The question is the Supreme Court could be bought by the same (( big corporations that want nonunion cheap Mexican labor.))
President of the United States or a Congressman or senator want to be reelected, these big corporations that what cheap Mexican labor have a lot of money influence to get somebody reelected to run interference for them.
The audacity of hope? How about the audacity of vote pandering? Feds-don't call us, we'll call you. If you are not going to help us, stay out of the kitchen and let us do our own cooking.
Yes, If the federal government is not living up too its obligations then the states that form the base this union have the right too step in and do the dutys for the federal government. If a foreign army was attacking america and the federal government refused too send the military or allow those states being invaded too defend themselfs, shouldnt those states have a right too do the federal governments job for them if the feds are refusing too do their duty? Same situation.
Yes, I do not think fed is doing enough to protect our borders. Let's take an example of Osama Bin Laden's case; should USA entered in Pakistan and kill Osama? Yes, we realized that Pakistan was not doing enough so, we took the charge! Didn't we? I feel the same way about fed, they are not doing enough to protect our borders so state should take charge!
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