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July 8th, 2010
06:00 PM ET

$20 million for centers devoted to Specter and Murtha?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Like most everywhere else, in Pennsylvania - times are tough. But you wouldn't necessarily know it by looking at parts of the state's new $28 billion budget.

FILE PHOTOS: Arlen Specter (l) and John Murtha (r)
FILE PHOTOS: Arlen Specter (l) and John Murtha (r)

Governor Ed Rendell is planning to borrow $20 million dollars to pay for new public buildings to be named after Senator Arlen Specter and the late Congressman John Murtha.

The Democratic governor is setting aside $10 million for the Specter Library at Philadelphia University...

He's also earmarking another $10 million for the Murtha Center for Public Policy at the University of Pittsburgh. Murtha represented the people of Pennsylvania for 36 years - he died this winter.

And there are other pet construction projects... in all - they total $600 million - all paid for with borrowed money.

This comes as Pennsylvania is taking a scalpel to its budget due to the recession. Social services, for example, are being cut - including those for autism, mental health services, and family crisis. Aid to public libraries is also being cut by nine percent.

So it's no surprise Governor Rendell is coming under fire for spending millions in borrowed money on a library for Arlen Specter.

But the governor says these construction projects are a way to keep more Pennsylvania residents employed and to keep the state's economy "humming."
Here’s my question to you: Is now the time for Pennsylvania to borrow $20 million for centers devoted to Arlen Specter and John Murtha?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Ruth writes:
Stories like this never cease to amaze me. While Americans are tightening the belt with their spending, losing jobs and homes, fearful of the future, these hapless politicos keeping partying like it's 1999. This IS NOT about "keeping the economy humming" and Rendell knows it.

Julie in Louisiana writes:
Why does Arlen Specter need a library? I thought that was for presidents. Why doesn't he pay for his own library?

Karl in San Francisco writes:
When these facilities are finished by construction workers, there will be permanent jobs for those who will maintain and operate them. The only money going into the economy now is from the government who is borrowing it from those fat money pigs that caused this mess in the first place. I don't see any Wall Streeters lifting a finger or a dollar to help the rest of us out. As long as all is well in the Hamptons, all is well everywhere. The fat cats got the gold mine and the rest of us are getting the shaft.

Donna in Pennsylvania writes:
I live in Pa., have all my life and just watched you on the Situation Room with tears in my eyes. I have a 15-year-old grandson with autism. That money should not be borrowed and if it is, use it on the budget. But that's not good either. I don't understand what is happening to the U.S.

Dave in Harrisburg writes:
I'm a Pa. Trooper and today I was driving around in a cruiser with 116K miles, overtime being micromanaged but $20 million wasted on nonsense. I can think of different ways to spend that kind of money.

Mark writes:
If I were a member of Congress, I wouldn't even want people to know I had served there. Especially if I stayed way over the age of retirement just so I would have someone to talk to in my old age. But, that's just me.


Filed under: Budget cuts
soundoff (161 Responses)
  1. John Long Beach, CA

    Absolutely NOT. Don't they understand we have no money and the printing press is out of ink? What a total waste of tax payer dollars, any tributes should be from private donations, NOT tax payer dollars..........and they wonder why we're broke and we don't want to pay more in taxes!

    July 8, 2010 at 2:11 pm |
  2. Sandra in Temecula, CA

    Arlen Specter are you kidding me? This is why we are broke, our money is being wasted on projects like this and not being used in a responsible manner. And they think we should be willing to pay more taxes so they can just waste more of our money. Enough already!

    July 8, 2010 at 2:13 pm |
  3. Mark, Oklahoma City

    If I were a member of Congress I wouldn't even want people to know I had served there. Especially if I stayed way over the age of retirement just so I would have someone to talk to in my old age. But, that's just me.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:19 pm |
  4. John from Alabama

    Jack: If building a center devoted to Arlen Specter and John Murtha creates jobs I am all for it. I believe pay checks are better any reason than to save money. It might mean a pay check for an individual for the next 18 to 24 months.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:21 pm |
  5. Russ in PA

    What a freakin' joke! More borrowed money to pay tribute to two clowns. The state politicians should be made to pay for this nonsense out of their own pockets. And don't get me started on the topic that "this is putting people to work"... The only work being done is shoveling more manure on to the pile of debt that Rendell has built up.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:22 pm |
  6. Kevin of SD CA

    Tell them to build their memorials out of their own private trusts! None of the present time politicians need to be given anything but a boot in the butt at the end of their services until they start respecting the Constitution and the laws that are already on the books!

    July 8, 2010 at 2:24 pm |
  7. Eugene Myers Flat, CA

    Jack, We could put that money to a much better use. Let's build the centers for Murtha and Specter with all that campaign money they have. $20 million was chump change to Murtha.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:26 pm |
  8. Fred R DeLeon SR

    Muttha was a dishonest and crooked politician.
    Specter was and still is a double crosser who sold his constituency
    to the highest bidder. I say NOT A PENNY.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:27 pm |
  9. Marlene

    Jack, Gov. Rendell is doing exactly the right thing. Rep. Murtha and Sen. Specter, named for buildings needed and those two folks brought billions of "ear mark" funded projects to the state over their life time of public service. We should do more to honor elected officials that pander to special interest in exchange for their electorial vote.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:35 pm |
  10. bob z fr ,pa.

    i live in pa ,we could use that money on our roads not in these jokers

    July 8, 2010 at 2:39 pm |
  11. Tom in Desoto, Tx

    There's no reason to have public funding going to commemorate those who served in Congress. At that same time funding for libraries are cut? Rendell obviously has lost touch with reality. If either of the two men's families believe there should be some building in they're honor, they should pay for it or raise funds. And after all, it won't be to long before people would go by it and not recognize who the person was.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:43 pm |
  12. Dennis North carolina

    no, but politics is politics.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:44 pm |
  13. Kevin in CA

    $20 million? That's chump change now days ... It's probably less than they spent on the last campaign.

    July 8, 2010 at 2:46 pm |
  14. Wilhelm von Nord Bach

    Pennsylvania's multi-layered, spendthrift government at ALL levels is why the Mrs and I moved from there to Nevada in 1990.

    this type of wasteful spending is typical of that "Commonwealth".

    July 8, 2010 at 2:58 pm |
  15. JOE CE

    Jack your header is misleading or maybe intended to lead toward disapproval. The projects in question are not for or to the benefit of Spector or Murtha, they are facilities which will serve the commuities In these hard times, too many think that the answer is stop governemnt spending which would further deflate the economy and create a total crash. The real question is if these projects are better than those not funded. And the more basic question of what is the best level; of government spending – which is not provable and will continue to spawn all types of uninformed opinions.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:05 pm |
  16. KARL PEREIRA

    Jack while I understand the outrage of continuing to borrow money to spend on pet projects, i am sure that they will serve a greater good to pennsylvanians, than of these of two gentleman did. we have to name it after someone, better the devils u know than the ones u dont. Besides its' alot than borrowing money and handing it out in stimulus for people to spend on cigarettes and booze. They say there' s good debt and bad debt, the government should learn the difference, and spend in hospitals and schools of higher learning.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:06 pm |
  17. Chris in Philadelphia

    Hell no! Pave some roads or reduce the outlandish tolls on the Penn Turnpike. Anything but borrow money to build libraries for those two. They keep talking about apocalyptic budget cuts to state and local services but we have twenty million for that kind of frivolous expenditure? Sadly Rendell is done as governor so I can't vote against him for this waste of my money.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:07 pm |
  18. KARL PEREIRA

    Jack while I understand the outrage of continuing to borrow money to spend on pet projects, i am sure that they will serve a greater good to pennsylvanians, than either of these of two gentleman ever did. we have to name it after someone, better the devils u know than the ones u dont. Besides its' alot better than borrowing money and handing it out in stimulus for people to spend on cigarettes and booze. They say there' s good debt and bad debt, the government should learn the difference, and spend it in hospitals and schools of higher learning.
    As much as I hate the Government and pork barrel spending this is one time the Government got it correct.

    Karl Pereira
    St. Johns' NL (Canada)

    July 8, 2010 at 3:08 pm |
  19. Simon/Orlando

    Murtha already has an airport named after him. The Murtha Johnstown/Cambria "airport to nowhere". I'm glad I don't live in Pennsylvania...the great stae of perpetual useless government spending.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:10 pm |
  20. Steve

    That's what we need another library. We should plan now for more libraries in the future, one for Obama, McCain, Rev Jackson, Rev Sharpton and last but not least, one big one Gov Palin. Did I forget someone important??
    You can add to the list.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:10 pm |
  21. southerncousin

    As long as he cuts the pay and benefits of some public sector union to pay for it fine, otherwise he should not soak the hard working taxpayers of Pennsylvania with monunents to these clowns.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:11 pm |
  22. Dave, Brooklyn, NY

    Rendell used to be a New Yorker, he used to be a good guy. He must have lost a few of his marbles on his trip south, because he sure is smoking the wrong end of the cigarette this time. Only a government moron who is used to tapping into coffers of unlimited funds supplied by taxpayers could think this is anything but a rhetorical question.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:11 pm |
  23. Lori - PA

    Jack,

    No, it's not the time to be borrowing money. If the money is not available, then put aside the project until it is. And when the money is available, wouldn't it make more sense to put it towards fixing roads and bridges or rehabbing buildings that have been sitting empty for years? What about using it (the money) to improve education? What happened to common sense?

    July 8, 2010 at 3:14 pm |
  24. Jerry F

    Jack, What is it going to take for these elected officials to understand borrowing is not the answer? What's wrong with pay as you go? As far as spending anything on Specter and Murtha, forget it. That goes for all members of congress. Their motto is spend spend spend so I give them nothing nothing nothing.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:16 pm |
  25. Kathie

    You have got to be kidding. Our self serving, self absorbed, out of touch nonrepresentatives only know how to spend money on their pet projects instead of representing those they were elected to serve. They seem to have forgotten about the plight of Americans and cut funds for programs that would help all of us while pandering to the demands of illegal aliens (since when do they have any rights) and their special interests/pet projects. Term limits desparately needed for these out of touch "people" in government.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:17 pm |
  26. Bizz Quarryville, Pennsylvania

    Governor Randell, is right when he says these buildings for Specter and Murtha will help to create jobs. But the jobs it will create and for how long it will create them is not worth twenty million dollars of borrowed money. I cannot help wondering if Senator Specter was still a republican, would his name be on the list. The problem is these politicians don't live in the real world. If they did stupid things like this would not happen.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:17 pm |
  27. Jayne

    Construction projects = jobs. Short term pain for long term gain. Case closed.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:18 pm |
  28. Jerry F

    Jack, What is it going to take for these elected officials to understand borrowing is not the answer? What's wrong with pay as you go? As far as spending anything on Specter and Murtha, forget it. That goes for all members of congress. Their motto is spend spend spend so I give them nothing nothing nothing.
    Huntington Beach, CA

    July 8, 2010 at 3:19 pm |
  29. Joe R - Houston

    Borrowing like this comes from the same people who believe that taxes can be raised enough on only 300 million people to significantly impact a 60 trillion dollar funding shortfall. Do the math idiots.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:20 pm |
  30. Minesh - Troy, MI

    Jack

    Thanks a lot for bringing the nepotism and corruption in the government to light. How come CNN, MSNBC and USA Today do not have these stories in the main segment?

    You are a good man.

    Minesh Baxi – Author, publisher – You WIll Overcome

    Troy, MI

    July 8, 2010 at 3:25 pm |
  31. Joanne

    Sick minded politicians is all we have to say !!
    Joanne
    Mn

    July 8, 2010 at 3:26 pm |
  32. Jack J

    Both Murtha and Spector were and are wishy washy politicians – feeding themselves no doubt irregardless if they have to change their views and policies 180 degrees overnight !
    Jack J
    Wi

    July 8, 2010 at 3:28 pm |
  33. Jerry Driskell

    Absolutely ! They should get it before it's all gone; and it's going fast.
    JerryinGA

    July 8, 2010 at 3:28 pm |
  34. Pete Minneapolis MN

    How soon we forget...Murtha never apologized to the Marines after lying about their actions in Haditha. He was a disgrace...unfortunately he has his political buddies in Pennsylvania and the Pentagon who want to name buildings and naval ships after him. Disgusting.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:29 pm |
  35. Adam Simi Valley, CA

    Depends on your goals. If you want to add to the looming financial crisis that awaits many cities and states, then I guess this is a positive step. I think it is appropriate that the king of pork should have a Center of Public Policy named for him and paid for with money we don't have, like so many of his pet projects. I can't wait to take "Pork-barrel Spending 101" at Pitt in the future.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:31 pm |
  36. andyz

    I don't live in PA so I really do not have a comment. I trust the voters in PA will state their approval or disgust with their vote this fall. As I sit here watching CNN (I confess. I am a shameless suck-up.) I find myself giggling and the being wracked by hysterical laughter at what happens in other states. Lord knows, they'll have to go a long way to top our Big Dig.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:31 pm |
  37. Jimmy

    Only thing to say is, typical democrat. SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, let someone else pick up the tab and then blame someone else is next.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:34 pm |
  38. DAVID ( SEATTLE

    its not fair that those who own shares in what equipment and labor will be used get to pocket that extra inflated money then get a tax break as if they benefitted the local community who most will be denied access to those universities to make room for 3rd world cultures who somehow got an expanded international affirmative action gurantee that backstabs local innocents...but what does the 2 party monopoly care when they can squeeze most of the integrity out of what left of a noble idea that gets undermined by hippocrits at the highest levels of govt

    July 8, 2010 at 3:37 pm |
  39. lance

    well...Does this non-sense really surprise anybody? I keep telling people to read their rights and live by them... If people would listen to me they would know what they can do to prevent these type of issues... But, I'm just some crazy guy the believes in the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of Independence... Yep....Just some crazy dude blabbering from a 200 year old piece of paper...Nothing important to see or hear...Just some old piece of paper...IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    July 8, 2010 at 3:39 pm |
  40. Jack

    Nope, all spending like this should be cutoff. Alas the spent and tax
    Dems will never change. At least we will be done with Rendell come
    Election time. Sen. Casey wants to bailout union pension funds but
    what the individuals 401K, "Too" bad it's not a big voting block.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:44 pm |
  41. Barbara Leavitt

    Stepping over dollars to save pennies. Cuts in mental health services and family crisis...very few states have enough funding in these areas as it is.
    Right now it doesn't sound like we (they, the tax payers) really need these
    buildings. Nice to hear the state of Pennsylvanias economy is 'humming' though. No call for slicing funding to the schools? Unlike OUR governor in Nevada.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:44 pm |
  42. naqibham

    WoW...
    We will remember

    July 8, 2010 at 3:44 pm |
  43. Gregory Miami Beach, FL.

    Libraries encourage literacy, and any investment in education will only strengthen our economy, and strategically placed is a strong community asset. I'd think the name should go to the youngest soldier to die eating dirt, and spilling blood, rather than the plump men of privilege in the Senate. It's one thing to serve your country, as did the Senators, but only the good die young.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:45 pm |
  44. Sandra in Temecula, CA

    SPENDING $20 million dollars we do NOT have is not stimulating economic recovery, it is adding to our ballooning deficit. This ridiculous idea needs to be scrapped and OUR tax payer dollars used in a more efficient way. If all the pork projects were eliminated we wouldn't need to raise taxes on anyone, if we continue down this path our entire paychecks won't be enough for their wasteful spending.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:47 pm |
  45. Barbara Leavitt

    Who has money for earmarks..?.....in Nevada our governor wants to cut funding to the schools. I am so disgusted with what has happened to our country. President after president has totally forgotten about the citizens.

    Henderson Nevada

    July 8, 2010 at 3:48 pm |
  46. riley oday

    Its OK. They need the construction jobs. But it should be a school or something better than a library.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:53 pm |
  47. Jeff in Houston

    Drop these "centers". What we need are monuments and museums dedicated to the agressive stupidity, greed, and complete disregard for the American citizen over the past twelve years. Now we expect the man who inherited this mess to fix it over night, so i guess that twelve is a flexible number. At least with museums or a monument, we can send a message to the future warning others not to do what we have done. If we still have a future left.

    July 8, 2010 at 3:55 pm |
  48. chris

    this is just disrectful and a slap in the face of us the overtaxed americans no matter which state you are living in this is definitely a complete waste of taxpayer money not just becasue the state of the economy or budgets cuts that are going on even is the economy was booming again it is still a wase no matter what teh situation is

    July 8, 2010 at 3:57 pm |
  49. bud rupert

    Are these people brain dead? What planet are they operating from?

    The ego's and insensitivity of these politicians is beyond belief. They sit up there and talk the talk bemoaning waste, fraud and abuse while the cameras are on them and then turn right around and pull a stunt like this. You have got to be kidding!

    My 8 year old grand-daughter has better sense.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:00 pm |
  50. Gerry

    With the crime and conviction rate for politicians especially in the case of John Murtha. I would oppose any form of loan from the private or public sector for any center honoring either Spector or Murtha. Let me add that in the last two decades we have named Navy war vessels after politicians when in real life we should be naming garbage scows after them.

    Gerry
    Ash Fork, Az.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:05 pm |
  51. Angie

    What can be said about Arlen Specter that Pennsylvania would need to build a library for Specter? Let's see. Arlen Specter, an opportunist who was a Republican for 44 years, was upset when he was overlooked for a position in the Republican party made his switch to the Democratic Party hoping to be placed at the top, which he was not. No, I do not see the necessity for Arlen, the opportunist to get a library during these hard times. Let's wait and see how his constituents want to remember him after he passes away, if he still has any constituents who care.
    What can be said about Murtha June 17 1932-February 8 2010 ? Marine Corps officer, Vietnam War Veteran, US House of Representative who devoted his life to service for the people he represented in Pennsylvania, became Chairman of the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee. Well I may not have agreed with his calls for withdrawal of our forces in Iraq, yet he does deserve to be remembered. But does it have to cost that much?

    July 8, 2010 at 4:07 pm |
  52. Carl

    Jack,
    This just shows us where our corrupt worthless government has their head at, it's where the sun never shines, anynore though, that just more of the same, thats why we are doomed.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:08 pm |
  53. Sam

    It's the end of our free market society when we start thinking the government can create jobs. GOP chairman Michael Steele said the same thing recently as well, and he's right. The government CAN'T afford and shouldn't be able to "create jobs", if you can even call it that. What would they be anyway? Limited construction jobs and a handful of security guards and staffers with fat pensions in place? That's the LAST thing our society, let alone the state of Pennsylvania, needs. Ed Rendell sounds like an elitist party hack who likes to spend spend spend tax payer dollars away on lame, unnecessary, ego maniacal projects like these. Politicians don't deserve worship centers, Penn doesn't need it and in this economy we JUST CAN'T AFFORD THEM. Cancel the project. After that, FIRE ED RENDELL.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:11 pm |
  54. Rev. Dr. Ken New Baltimore

    Why not? They both were God's answer to politics in PA. So, sock it to the rest of the country. If a state wishes to honor a member of Congress, let them pay for it our of their citizens pockets.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:13 pm |
  55. Elizabeth in Los Angeles

    Anybody who thinks that a few construction jobs - OK quite a few - will keep an economy "humming" on any sort of a continuing basis is a nut-case. We need manufacturing jobs! Service industry jobs! Health care jobs! Also, does Arlen Specter deserve a library more than autistic kids deserve treatment that will help them become healthy and productive citizens? Does John Murtha deserve a public policy center more than broken families deserve crisis counseling? Asked and answered.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:13 pm |
  56. Kyle Irvine, CA

    Just another typical example of the Democratic philosophy. Spending money the state doesn't have to pay for something that is meaningless to government.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:15 pm |
  57. David Scott Doherty

    Jack do really think Specter or Murtha would see the reason behind this ridiculous waste of money? I think not! Isn't road repair and the rest of Pennsylvania infrastructure just a Tadd more important than a couple of libraries, if it's jobs they want, wouldn't this suffice!
    Dave from Peterbourgh NH.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:17 pm |
  58. Ed from California

    Pennsylvania wants to borrow 20mil to build buildings, and employ (hopefully) Americans/Pennsylvania's to build them. And California wants to borrow 20billion dollars, just to balance the budget. What's a better use of the money? Enjoy your buildings!

    July 8, 2010 at 4:20 pm |
  59. Jerry Johns Creek, GA

    As a native Philadelphian this really irritates me. The idea of creating jobs for construction workers to honor two of the biggest pork farmers this country has ever known maybe a fitting tribute since the idea is so ridiculous. The jobs will last for a very short finite period of time. What kind of jobs could be created if that money went instead to the students or professors at those schools, possibly long term durable opportunities? Government leaders must step out of the way of progress and stop spending our money on feel good projects to glorify the inglorious.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:22 pm |
  60. Ted

    Rendel is just like Obama. They are both slick talking snake oil salesman.They are saying that this is a cure for all our ills.What it is is poison,and once we take it ....America Dies......Keep the truth going Jack. You got guts,and that is what we need today in the media.People with guts to tell the truth.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:24 pm |
  61. MIke in TX

    Politics Jack politics. Those two have funneled huge amounts of the nations citizens (yours and mine) money into PA, now its time to say thank you even if it is a bit late for Sen. Murtha and the voters are tossing Specter out. All the autistic kids, the families in need, the elderly, the disabled and those that use the "public libraries" won't mind giving up monies they need to chip in will they? They have to borrow the money as the dollar flow from DC is dwindling and the folks in the state are unemployed or just tapped out. But hey the university will have a new library that will be open all the time for a few and the state will have a policy center that might look at this one down the road and find there was a better way to do it or not to have done it.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:26 pm |
  62. Mary in PA

    Jack as someone who lives in PA and travels the roads the answer is NO!!!! They keep telling us they have no money for our crumbling roads and bridges. I'm sure we have some of the worst if not the worst roads in the country. You can tell as soon as you cross the state line into any of the bordering states because the roads are immediately better. We could keep as many people, if not more working if we used that money to improve our roadways. That would benefit alot more people in the state. I also guess that our governer feels the education cuts to the budget are ok since he is building a library for Spector. This is what is wrong with our government in PA. They don't have any idea what the priorties should be. Hopefully this next election in November we as a state will clean house in our state government as well as our part of the federal level.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:27 pm |
  63. Patti in Texas

    Maybe named for Murtha, Arlen Spector is a disgrace. Few will forget how he demeaned Anita HIll with repeated questions about the offensive comments made to her by Clarence Thomas; she was mortified, viewers could see it on her face. Arlen Spector promoted Arlen Specter and when the Republican honeymoon was over, he up and changed parties. And they didn't want him either. This buildingt may offer up a few jobs temporarily (no doubt the contractors will employ illegal aliens for the cost advantage), so that's not a good excuse. No, tell Pennsylvania they'll just have to tighten up their belts for now (like the rest of us)....

    July 8, 2010 at 4:36 pm |
  64. Willis

    Jack,
    Has this man lost his mind, $20 mill. Just erect a couple of statues as an honor to all that they have contributed to the nation so the birds have something to crap on !

    July 8, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
  65. Meg from Troy

    Jack–
    Why not? Maybe it will work and honor these two gentlemen at the same time.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
  66. Alex in Gig Harbor, WA

    It is only one tenth of one percent of their budget to invest in infrastructure improvements. Why not? It sounds like jobs to me regardless of who they name the buildings after.

    July 8, 2010 at 4:52 pm |
  67. Melissa

    No, definitely not. Someone needs to tell these idiots no.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:03 pm |
  68. Lance, Ridgecrest, Ca

    Jack, sure it is. That borrowed $20M will go a long way toward buying the re-election of Spectre to the Senate. The poor dupes of Pennsylvania won't know that they have been shafted until next year, when they have to close schools, cut the services mentioned about, and have to bear the increased taxes that are bound to follow the borrowing spree. By that time good ol' Arlen will be firmly in place in the Senate for the next 6 years. This is politics, Jack, spend for the present, pay later!!!!

    July 8, 2010 at 5:03 pm |
  69. engineer

    Jack, old news all the politicians have earmarks in their budgets, democrats and republicans they all do the same thing. The only different is the amount of wasted tax payers' money.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:05 pm |
  70. Andrew Amherst NY

    Simple answer... NO!

    July 8, 2010 at 5:07 pm |
  71. Jerome

    The people of PA should sue the Rendell, Specter and Mutha estates for all the damage they all caused to the state with all their tax and spend initiatives.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:07 pm |
  72. Jerry Jacksonville, Fl.

    The governor has gone from dumb to dumber, I can't believe he is that stupid, he should be voted out of office for being an idiot, what is it that make some people think we have to name building and highways after some lousy politician or Preacher that commits adultery and all they do is cry, ask forgiveness, pray, check into rehab and promise never to do it again. He should be thinking of ways to help some of the poor people who have no jobs or home.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:09 pm |
  73. Dee in Woodstock GA

    Well, I guess before the credit rating of the state just tanks is probably the most opportune time to borrow the money! Once the State credit rating hits the skids they will not be able to borrow anything!

    At least that will be MY plan, right before I get to the point where I lose everything I will max out my credit cards and get all I can before it becomes impossible, or before I have to learn to count in chinese to learn if any money is available!

    July 8, 2010 at 5:10 pm |
  74. Jim,Roanoke Va

    This is shameful !!!!! But you will find Ed Rendell on just about every talk show in the media that are so willing to give him a voice to spew his political garbage about how he 's working so hard for the country.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:11 pm |
  75. Annie, Atlanta

    Social services comes first. There are people that we need to take care of, who cannot take care of themselves. Any politician who cannot see that needs to be shown the door.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:12 pm |
  76. John from San Antonio

    It certainly is not, but since we long ago abandoned the public servant concept it really doesn't matter. The idea that politicians and bureaucrats worked for the citizenry has lang vanished and since we work for them I guess they can do whatever they wish.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:12 pm |
  77. David Gerstenfeld

    Nevada has the highest unemployment in the country so any non- private funds should be spent here to lower our unemployment & build more hotels we don't need.
    David, Las Vegas

    July 8, 2010 at 5:12 pm |
  78. Scott Stodden

    Absolutley not Jack but then again nobody cares about what these politicians are doing and how there spending borrowed money/taxpayer money! If the Congress people, Senators, President or any other politican cared they would speak up and say how wrong this especially when people are suffering! Nobody cares about the regular people except at election time and that includes even President Obama! Its sad, truly a sad day for America and Pennyslvaina!

    Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)

    July 8, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
  79. Bob

    Jack,

    Taxpayer money should not be spent for new buildings just to be able to name them after pork-barrel politicians who brought the bacon home. I feel the naming of a building should not be a "bought commodity" like our sports complexes of today but should be named by the people of the state.

    It is an honor to have your name bestowed upon a building but there should be some criteria established and then a nomination process with rationale behind the nomination and then voted for by the people.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
  80. Steve, Clifton, VA

    Jack

    Seed money is a concept that has proven itself time and time again in this country over the years, so why question it now. It works!! It puts people to work!!

    July 8, 2010 at 5:20 pm |
  81. Susan from Idaho

    Jack you need to be asking Ed Rendell this. Like most politicians on the government boob, they don't have a clue what good ideas are.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:24 pm |
  82. joe m

    how about that money be spent to help people looking to start small bussinesses. that investment will not only be more sensible, but they are more likely to create long term jobs for the communities. honoring these guys for their contributions is understandable, but they'll just have to settle for a bust displayed somewhere. although i can't rightly figure out why anyone would like to remember or honor either, considering their recent performance. come to think of it, forget them and use the money to help the citizens of Pennsylvania create and find jobs instead.

    NC

    July 8, 2010 at 5:25 pm |
  83. Ron in Indiana

    20 million dollars would feed an awful lot of hungry children in Pennsylvania. Who is more deserving?

    July 8, 2010 at 5:25 pm |
  84. Kirk (Apple Valley, MN)

    While I can understand naming a building after Murtha (he's dead), naming one after Arlen (flip-flop) Specter is questionable. If it will mean employment for people, then maybe the $20 mil is worth it.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  85. DEBORAH BALLWEG

    NO, they need to spend any money on worthwhile projects like roads, bridges, etc.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:27 pm |
  86. perry jones

    this is called theft

    perry jones
    council bluffs ia

    July 8, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
  87. Rick McDaniel

    Once this "pattern" of recognizing those who went before starts, there is NO end to it.

    It is a bad practice, and will simply lead to waste, and poor management.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
  88. Tim in Texas

    Of course it's a good idea. You borrow money when you're broke, not when you have money. Borrow the money and give people jobs, better to spend the money on jobs that give you buildings than to give the same people food stamps and housing assistance which you get nothing back for. Besides, if they have they have money, if they have money, they buy things, and that boosts the rest of the local economy. Economics 101 Jack.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  89. D. Comer

    Martinsburg WV

    Jack....
    What can I say about the PA governor that's nice about his plan... (Sorry, divide by zero error here).

    It's true, the bureaucrats have lost the ability to be sensible. I guess it's the way of things. To many special interest lobbyists at all levels of government. States are no acception. This isn't the Fleecing of America, it's the rape and murder of it.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:35 pm |
  90. Jerry in FL

    NO. What have they done during their time is to run up 13 Trillion debt. If I spent money I would be in jail with Madoff.

    July 8, 2010 at 5:42 pm |
  91. Remo, from beautiful downtown Pflugerville Texas

    Jack, not no but "Hell No". If they want a library, then they can wait. I'd like a job. Get it, you political yo-yo's!

    July 8, 2010 at 5:46 pm |
  92. Ruth

    Stories like this never cease to amaze me. While Americans are tightening the belt with their spending, losing jobs and homes, fearful of the future, these hapless politicos keeping partying like it's 1999. This IS NOT about "keeping the economy humming" and Rendell knows it. It's some displaced ego honor and there are other more important priorities that could be funded with the money. Why is it that regular everyday Americans can understand and have been cutting back but these fools cannot comprehend the basics of money management?

    July 8, 2010 at 5:49 pm |
  93. Mark from San Diego

    Jack:

    This is an absolute joke. There is nothing more that can be said.

    Mark

    July 8, 2010 at 5:57 pm |
  94. Julie from Louisiana

    Why does Arlen Spector need a library. I thought that was for presidents. Why doesn't he pay for his own library?

    July 8, 2010 at 5:58 pm |
  95. Gregory Tripp, Mechanicsburg

    Thank you for letting me know. Here I though my governor was one of the prudent ones, but it turns out he's as much into corruption as the next. If he really wanted to just, "keep the (PA) economy humming," he would have put that $20 million into the social services that he cut. Dollar for dollar, it's proven that what goes into the pocket of the un/under employed is spent right away, compounded to the nth time, whereas a sizable lump of these "libraries" will go into the pockets of contractors who are in no way hurting.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:00 pm |
  96. Phil in Port St Lucie, Florida

    Even the thought of blowing the money on a politician's memory is absurd!!!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:00 pm |
  97. Tim

    Of course not Jack. With the economy in shambles they should be thinking of ways to bring permanent jobs back to the country. They need jobs for unskilled laborers. This is the type of thinking that got us into this trouble in the first place. We do not have the money so borrow it when we do not have the means to every pay it back.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:06 pm |
  98. Jeff - Augusta, Ga

    This is a fine example of the idiots we have making financial decisions during these trying times. They evidently have several boxes.
    The recession forced me to "think outside the box" to keep my business going and I have managed to hold on through these tough times. I foolishly calculated that the recession would be over by now. I didn't realize I have but one box. God help us.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:07 pm |
  99. Michael Armstrong Sr.

    No hell no its time to stop spending money on crap that dont create jobs for the little people its time to create those so called shovel ready jobs and dont forget that 20 billion dollars from B.P. is on the table dont kid yourself .

    July 8, 2010 at 6:08 pm |
  100. Steven V

    Somebody's got a lot of nerve asking for $20M for something as trivial as this. I may not live in Pa. but I have childhood friends that do, and I must say that using that amt of money to build 2 centres, 1 of which is for a man who thought up the Magic Bullet Theory for the Warren Commission when they were "investigating" the JFK assassination and used it to blame their patsy Lee Harvey Oswald, is not only a waste of taxpayer funds but is also an egregious offense; an imbruing of this nation's soul and a scar on its land. Such a physical structure would be one of the ways that Pa. 'loses face' as the Japanese would say.

    Steven V,
    Pensacola, FL, USA

    July 8, 2010 at 6:09 pm |
  101. Karl from SF, CA

    When these facilities are finished by construction workers, there will be permanent jobs for those who will maintain and operate them. The only money going into the economy now is from the government who is borrowing it from those fat money pigs that caused this mess in the first place. I don’t see any Wall Streeters lifting a finger or a dollar to help the rest of us out. As long as all is well in the Hamptons, all is well everywhere. The fat cats got the gold mine and the rest of us are getting the shaft.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:13 pm |
  102. Evelyn

    Darn good idea!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:15 pm |
  103. Julie from Louisiana

    I wonder if Spector was still a republican would he get a library?

    July 8, 2010 at 6:15 pm |
  104. Nancy, Tennessee

    I'm sure Pennsylvania needs some jobs, but not just construction for these building. They need some long term jobs like the steel mills before they were shut down. This global economy is not fair to the American workers. We need import taxes on products not made in the U.S.A. Forget the public buildings with plaques dedicating them to Specter and Murtha. Invest in jobs for the Pennsylvanians and start a trend to save this nation.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:15 pm |
  105. Paul Austin, Texas

    Both centers should be put on hold unless funds from the private sector of which there are plenty out there can be used. No matter how much either of these men gave in support for the people Pennsylvania. Only private funds should be used to fund both centers and not one penny of government money should be spent on such centers. I do not think at least Murtha would not want such spending to be done.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:16 pm |
  106. Joseph Leff

    They're erecting these buildings using borrowed money, but are reducing mental health services? Boy, have they got THAT backwards!

    Joe in Delray Beach, FL

    July 8, 2010 at 6:16 pm |
  107. Bernard

    Jack, this makes as much sense as spending trillions of dollars in defense contracts for occupying Iraq and Afghanistan.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:16 pm |
  108. Saba

    This is the beauty of our political system, senators and congressmen can still "pork" us from the after life and after we fire them.
    God Bless the USA.
    Saba, Atlanta, GA

    July 8, 2010 at 6:16 pm |
  109. steven

    i dont kno who those people are but ii would like to see that money spent more wisely then on something like that and maybe something more long term

    July 8, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
  110. Josh

    Governor Rendell shouldn't be spending public money on funding the centers when the Pennsylvania economy is in sorry shape. My friend Eric who is a PA state employee wasn't even paid for work for 2-3 months due to budget issues, so Governor Rendell should look at private funding if he wants to build centers for Senators Specter and Murtha.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
  111. Steve

    Why not Jack? Why not "Borrow" money for Specter and Murtha? Just another case where the polititions have no idea of what the American people want and need. They still have the nerve to apply, or should I say demand taxpayer dollars for pet projects. I say, "Wait until November you self centered polititions!"

    July 8, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
  112. Sean - Erie, PA

    There's a reason he's known as "Fast Eddie" to the state media; he's always trying to spend someone else's money on ridiculous projects while cutting state jobs and funding for what the citizens want and need.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
  113. Roseanne Deisroth - Scranton, PA

    Are you kidding – borrowing money for buildings and cutting programs for Autism and other Public Health Programs – I believe the Governor has his priorities wrong. We don't need more buildings especially now, we need to support the people that need help and assistance!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:18 pm |
  114. Don Desaulniers (Belleville, Canada)

    Governments of all levels are hopelessly addicted to spending. It is so easy to spend someone else's money, just like it is too easy to send someone else's son or daughter off to fight a war.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm |
  115. Gloria Brown

    What a waste of the taxpayers money! Why doesn`t Ed Redall open up his own pockets and use 20 million dollars of his own to fund these USELESS buildings! Our libraries and all the other cuts being made are far more important! Throw the bums out!!!!!
    G Brown
    Hanover Pa

    July 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm |
  116. Ben from Boston

    Jack,

    Are you kidding? It is time to devote all financial resources to creating productive jobs – building memorials, museums, etc. will create some jobs but there is little leverage from these jobs. If you could take this money and give tax breaks to small business that creates jobs that last at least a year - that would be a very good use of the funds. All federal, state, and local funds for capital projects should be temporarily suspended and redirected to creating jobs in small business – and any new stimulus money should be similarly directed. I personally do not own a small business but I have some experience with unemployment and I don't like it.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm |
  117. nuttizm

    these politicains are equivilant to pimps. they take our monies, tell us what we want to hear, we rarely see where i our monies go. yet these politicians live lavish while we struggle.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm |
  118. Denis Duffy

    To hell with Rendell. The state shouldn't pay a dime towards either of these guys. Name something? Sure! A pork farm for Murtha and a ping pong table for Specter.

    Denis Duffy
    Upper Saint Clair, Pa.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm |
  119. Kathy S

    This is just so typical of our Governor! He can't see the forest for the trees!

    As a resident of Pennsylvania, I am appalled that Rendell would spend borrowed money to build these structures, yet cut funding to programs that are so necessary for the well-being of Pennsylvanians.

    Its about time Governor Rendell to start putting the people of Pennsylvania first!

    Kathy S
    Easton, Pennsylvania

    July 8, 2010 at 6:20 pm |
  120. Steve, Clifton, VA

    If you are not a tax paying resident of the great state of Pennsylvanian, it's not our business is it?

    July 8, 2010 at 6:20 pm |
  121. jeanene krupa

    Hello no!!! What it going through their demented minds? I beleive these rotten politicians all live on the same planet!!!!!! I live in Pa & have worked here for more than 29 years. Taxes, taxes, taxes & crooks is all that you will find here. I believe the next governor, Tom Corbett, will repeal this ludicrous slush fund!!!!

    Jeanene K
    Beaver Falls, Pa USA

    July 8, 2010 at 6:20 pm |
  122. jean2009

    There is no nobler venture than to spend money on educating our young, and with that education they then can better provide for themselves and their future. I'm glad to see that Governor Rendell is putting money toward something solid for Pennsylvania's future by placing useful buildings on university campuses. That expenditure will provide jobs during construction, and jobs once completed.

    Why should we really get bogged down about whose name is on the building...since that seems to be the main reason for your right-wing rant of the day. Just because the building says Arlen Specter or John Murtha above the door doesn't mean the building will be used by them. Ohio

    July 8, 2010 at 6:20 pm |
  123. ed gibson

    Jack, why shouldn't they spend the 20 million! Its not their money . they all act like pigs at a trough and have no idea of the economic situation around them. I thought Arlen Spector was a republician a few years ago. Another turncoat that they can honor with a building! Give me a break!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:21 pm |
  124. Gary Las Vegas

    Borrowing twenty million dollars to pay tribute to politicians who helped run this country to the brink of dissaster. This might be the perfect spot for the phrase, oxymoron!!! These stories just keep getting better.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:21 pm |
  125. Brian Smith PhD San Diego CA

    No... instead send the money to me. There is a poor family next door and know they go to bed hungry 4 nights a week. I will give the money to them.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:21 pm |
  126. Mark in California

    As a country we have regulated ourselves out of business. At the present time this administration will effectively put a strangle hold on the one industry that is still a viable entity which is energy. Adding restrictions or halting offshore drilling for a single accident is an awful price to pay no matter the political ramifications.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
  127. DLR

    I live in PA, have all my life, just watched you on Situation Room, with tears in my eyes, I have 15 year old grandson with autism, that money should not be borrowed and if it is, use it on the budget. But that's not good either. I don't understand what is happening to the USA.
    Donna in PA

    July 8, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
  128. greg lorenz

    i am a resident of pa and didn't know about this expenditure. if something could make me vote republican, god forbid, it is rendell's wasteful spending. we can't afford these libraries at this time, especially when rendell is cutting funding for PUBLIC libraries. that is really bad politics. also, to be wasting taxpayer money when taxes are going up is a crime. rendell could turn pa into a red state with these dumb moves..

    g lorenz morrisville pa

    July 8, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
  129. nancy hanna

    no. I was under the impression that Pa. was in dire str. fin. during the 2008 election. How could they ever recover fr. that kind of debt? Every st. needs to pull in their belt for sure....

    July 8, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
  130. Arnold MI

    Spending money is the only solution to a slow economy. The two buildings will require building supplies which will preserve and/or create jobs. The buildings will employ construction workers and truck drivers. This will pull them off the unemployment roles and they will once again begin receiving a paycheck that provides them with "consumer spending" money.
    Their spending will help the struggling small businesses in their local community. They will once again enjoy the restaurants, bars, malls, theaters, etc. This will help to create more jobs and generate more "consumer spending."
    Recessions are like a game of dominos, when the first domino falls the rest will follow suit unless we place a "stop" in the row of tumbling dominos.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
  131. a5153

    Socialism solecism?
    Forced brings in corruption, naturally brings in technology. Which do you want- corruption or technology? Terrorists wants us to have corruption, civilization requires technology without corruption. It is that clear. What I’m saying is that Socialism will occur naturally about the year 2810 when technology can maintain it. To push for it now can only bring in corruption, and this vary corruption is used by some as a weapon of war. Did you know that?
    The greater number of marketplaces requires less technology to maintain it. Or, fewer marketplaces requires greater technology to maintain it. OK what is it? It is Socialism without corruption.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
  132. M Alvis

    Classic political power moves:

    Everyone is equal. However some are far more equal than others, especially if paid for with lots of others money (without the "legal" power to object), even more so if paid with "money" that has yet to be earned by anyone.

    Such scenarios are remindful of politics within the 20th century USSR and many previous empires which self-destructed. Oops, how dare I forget that USSR system eventually collapsed and such threats are past history.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:24 pm |
  133. D. Scott Griffin

    I hope America does not buy the lie Jack. You can not spend your way out of debt. BTW is this the same Senator Murtha from ABSCAM sting? The one who told the make believe FBI shiek he'd help him and talk about the pay off money later? Amazing how if you have friends in high places you can avoid prosecution, whether you are a Black Panther intimidating voters or just a corrupt US Senator.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:24 pm |
  134. Irish Georg

    The governor must have his eyes closed to the Californians and the Greeceians. I have done residential mortgages for 23 years and I saw homeowners refinancing their homes 2 and 3 times paying off debts and coming back a few years later to be in the same situation. Those days are gone. The governments around our country are continuing the madness and will end with the same result.
    I pray Pennsylvanians stop this madness. Specter and Murtha have made enought money, they could probably pay the 20 million themselves.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:24 pm |
  135. Ken in NC

    Only in America Jack. Only in America.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:24 pm |
  136. Mark Flanigan

    Might as well..Jack..why not keep being consistent...in our stupidity...a couple years from now... the solar storms are going to shut the lights off any way...but no we don't want to spend money to protect our power grids do we!?

    July 8, 2010 at 6:24 pm |
  137. Bob Mears

    who cares what the name of the librarys are. For two years I have heard nothing but "the banks are not lending", and it is choking the economy. Now, the state wants to borrow money, and it is wrong? So much for fiscal growth. And jobs to pay the rent. Bob in 102 degree Arizona

    July 8, 2010 at 6:24 pm |
  138. cynthia

    I am really glad I moved from PA to VA!!!!! no reason to borrow money for these in this economy!!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:25 pm |
  139. Cameron

    It amazes me that no one has asked another very important question. For the past few years that budgets were in place, funds were budgeted in advance for annual salary and cost of living raises. Somehow that money disappeared and therefore the employees of the commonwealth have been without a raise in salary, yet our legislators all received their raises. If I was in a position to manage these funds and had mismanaged them to the point that we can not even pay our own emplyees a decent salary for which they have earned. I am sure that I would have been terminated. I believe that Rendell and all of Pennsylvania's Legislators need to be terminated for failure to do their jobs and mismanagement of commonwealth funds. They don't have money to pay cost of living raises for Commonwealth employees, then why is there money being spent on unnecessary asthetic upgrades at the capital complex.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:25 pm |
  140. gusher

    These guys have made their sterling contributions to their state over several years and deserve something for posterity. Palin is a half Guv and some detractors of this decision will want to give her money although, up to now, she has done "zero" for this country. What a messed up state of affairs!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:26 pm |
  141. Mark Flanigan

    Might as well..Jack..why not keep being consistent...in our stupidity...a couple years from now... the solar storms are going to shut the lights off any way...but no we don't want to spend money to protect our power grids do we!?

    Mark
    Grand Rapids, MI

    July 8, 2010 at 6:27 pm |
  142. TT

    I'm not an American, the fair question would have been to ask without identifying two names.

    Keeping people working will generate revenue, nagging without better idea only creates antagonism; you're fueling it.

    TT
    Toronto

    July 8, 2010 at 6:27 pm |
  143. Paulette in Dallas,PA

    Both of these men brought home the bacon to Pennsylvania,so to speak,but now is not the time to honor them with more borrowed dollars to increase the load on Pennsylvanians backs. If money can be raised privately to accomplish these honors then I say go for it but that is doublful with the economy in its present state. Surely these fine men won't mind waiting for a more appropriate time to be recognized.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:28 pm |
  144. Weldon from Canada

    Is there anytime a politician can ask for something and not get it. They are the only people on the face of the earth who are exempt from controlling their spending.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:28 pm |
  145. Bob (from PA)

    This is an inspired idea.
    Citizens and firms borrow to construct homes, offices, and stores all the time. Why not governments? The Specter and Murtha centers will be used for many years to come, honoring their years of public service, so why not borrow to build now, then pay off the cost over the lives of the facilities. Moreover, interest rates are very low right now. It's a good time to borrow. Finally, Gov. Rendell is right! It will provide much need jobs in construction right now. And we need them now.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:28 pm |
  146. David P Vernon

    Tucson, AZ – Murtha and Specter are merely excuses – it is the $20 million in building that counts. Rendell understands, as most people do not, that when the private economy is in the toilet, the only hope for working class income is public works projects. Some States' Constitutions do not allow borrowing – they are at the mercy of Federal public works to keep the blue collar crowd working, buying, and paying their bills during a slump. Shallow naive analysis would have the government cut back in bad times – but that is how a private sector bust becomes a general recession. Counterintuitively, the correct move by government, whose duty is to promote the general welfare, is to spend borrowed money like crazy in bad times and to cut back and raise taxes when the private sector is booming again. Boom times are five times as prevalent as bust times, so if the legislatures play their cards smart, it is easy to make back and pay off the borrowed money. The opposite, Republican view, has a history of promoting and prolonging bad times – why are we still talking about it? The rest of you go read some college economics textbooks and find out what you are talking about before you express an opinion. Here is a clue – a government is not a household, or a business, so the "rules" for household or business economics do not apply!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:29 pm |
  147. Chris A.

    Jack,

    Not now, not ever!

    Chris from CA

    July 8, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
  148. Lyn

    It's as good a time as any, especially for Murtha. He was a great help to Pennsylvania. It's no different that any other year in our country. Look back over the last 30 years and check it out. If it puts people back to work then it will be worth the effort. No President has ever got us into this kind of mess before, as Bush has. He spent like a Drunken Sailer and didn't pay for anything. Tax cuts only for the rich is what he was for.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
  149. Walter Allentown Pa

    Mr Tax and Spend as he is known in Pa. will soon be leaving
    to join Arnold in Calif to open a beer and strudel factory in Austria.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:31 pm |
  150. Sean from Maine

    Sure, now is the time. Libraries and poor people usually don't make large campaign donations, but large construction companies do. It is an election year isn't it.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:33 pm |
  151. vickie

    I hate to tell you jack but i am from pa....the place is no longer treading water from the steel mills closing and glass factories...We have recovered and recovered good...Have you been in and around pittsburg lately?Its booming...construction everywhere...and guess what? Some was stimulus money that helped save jobs and make jobs...We are a blue state...always will be....working class people know how to recover so don't worry about us. Rendell is a good governor and well liked..If there are cuts to programs its because it is...NECESSARY !and by the way.....noone ..I mean none were I live questions anything that john murtha supported...When you needed help ...you went to john murtha....

    July 8, 2010 at 6:33 pm |
  152. Dan

    Typical democratic BS! As a resident of PA I'm in amazed by these inept goverments, both state and federal! Here is another ploy by the democrats to get votes from the unions because only the unions will be able to bid on these projects. The chances of anyone else getting any of this money is... well you have better chances at a gambling table!
    I've been in business for some 35+ years if I ran my business like the feds or the state I wouldn't have survived a year! I can believe Rendel can rationaize spending money the state doesn't have. If I could move right now I'd love the tell this state to kiss my ... and move to AZ!!!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:33 pm |
  153. Cameron

    Why are they spending money on privately run Universities and not on any of the State run universities? Sounds like an inside job, and that someones palm is being greased.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:34 pm |
  154. Stephen Sharp

    Jack, I live in Pa and am furious over this money being spent in this manner. People in Pa need better then this. He is on his way out and his paying back favors!

    July 8, 2010 at 6:36 pm |
  155. vincent fiordalisi

    Absolutely not. Arlen Spector , in my opinion, deliberately mislead the
    American public in the JFK assassination with his single bullet theory.
    He should be considered an accessory after the fact in the assassination, and as such should be in a jail cell. Anyone who doubts this should read 'Breach of Trust- How the Warren Commission failed the Nation and Why' by Gerald D. McKnight.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:38 pm |
  156. Mark Flanigan

    Might as well..Jack..why not keep being consistent...in our stupidity...a couple years from now... the solar storms are going to shut the lights off any way...but no we don't want to spend money to protect our power grids do we!? c'mon Jack, dare you too put this comment out there, I know you won't..because you can't touch that subject..can you?

    Mark
    Grand Rapids, MI

    July 8, 2010 at 6:38 pm |
  157. Greg Terry

    These Career politicans will never get it. The way that .we have set them up to never have to want for anything for the rest of their lives, and we expect them to make rational judgments about money. You got to be kiddin me. Have you noticed how the one's who've been their the longest walk humped over? Its from patting their selves on the back all thoses years.. Term Limits!

    Greg Terry
    Killen, AL

    July 8, 2010 at 6:40 pm |
  158. Ted

    He is a FAT CAT......get the picture

    July 8, 2010 at 6:41 pm |
  159. Thomas Boyle

    John Murtha defended our country in war and peace, first in the military and then in congress. A decorated war veteran and and a congressman that always placed the people of Pennsylvania and his district first before himself.

    Arlen Spector when he was a Republican congressman he was one of the few Republican canadiates that I would vote for in an election. This was because he was a moderate and I also belived he placed Pennsylvania first in his decisions.

    I would much rather be taxed to pay tribute to these two great men than betaxed to pay anything associated with the Bush administration; bank bailouts, Iraq war, BP givaways for offshore drilling etc..

    Thomas Boyle
    Jeannette PA.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:44 pm |
  160. Michael Armstrong Sr.

    @ Vickie thats good im glad you guys dont need the money so let the rest of the hurt states have it for real things that count for us .

    July 8, 2010 at 6:47 pm |
  161. Michael J

    As the Federal government prints more money to buy our way out of debt , and pay off election promises, can't we just put the pictures of these elected officials on the currency paying for these "monuments to politics" so we can remember them forever (or the debt is paid off) ?? Along with future generations being provided the bill for for these "moments to politics" they will see who the officials are that led to the problem.

    July 8, 2010 at 6:49 pm |