Protesters demonstrate outside St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York. (PHOTO CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES)
FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
The Vatican claims to have it all figured out when it comes to the sexual abuse of children at the hands of priests in the Catholic Church.
The pope's number two - Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone - insists the abuse is linked to homosexuality... and not celibacy.
Gay rights groups are outraged - saying it's a "perverse" strategy by the Vatican to "shirk its own ethical and legal responsibility"... and they're right.
To top it off - this official made the ludicrous claim in Chile, where one pedophile priest had sex with young girls - impregnating at least one teenager. One of his victims says when she told priests about the abuse at confession "they just told me to pray and that was it."
Meanwhile - as the church says it's overhauling its rules on how it handles accusations of sexual abuse, the Associated Press may have a smoking gun that proves Pope Benedict refused to do anything about this when he had the chance.
They report on a letter written in the 80s by then-cardinal Ratzinger, in which he resisted pleas to defrock a California priest who had sexually abused children. After sitting on the request for several years, Ratzinger eventually did nothing - instead asking the Oakland bishop to consider the "good of the universal church."
It eventually became the eleventh commandment in Catholicism: "Protect the church at all costs - to hell with the children."
Here’s my question to you: Is the sexual abuse of children in the Catholic Church linked to homosexuality?
Tune in to the Situation Room at 5pm to see if Jack reads your answer on air.
And, we love to know where you’re writing from, so please include your city and state with your comment.
No Jack, How could you even bring this thought up, I thought we had moved beyond thinking that Homosexuality was a deviation or choice. What happened with the church is a crime by someone who is sick not a homosexual! These crimes were carried out by men not a sexual persuasion! Sheesh!
Perhaps, some might be based on human nature. Sex is part of it and abstaining is not the answer.
No, definately not! The Vatican is twisting things trying to cover up its mistakes. Well it's too late and the people know better. At this point they'll say anything to "save the church". At the end of the day the kids are left with scars. How can you be religious and abuse children? What an oxymoron!
there is no medical relationship betwen pedophilia
Homosexuals are no more likely to be abusers than heterosexuals, so the answer is no. The only reason it gets attention in the Vatican, according to Andrew Sullivan, is that so much of the Vatican clergy is, in fact, gay. Bertoni may be reacting to his inner demons or those of his colleagues, not reality.
As for the the California case, get your facts straight, Jack. This particular priest was requesting the lay state (which would give him a get out of jail free card concerning punishment from the Church). He had already been convicted in criminal court – which gave him a slap on the wrist. There was no coverup in that case. The fact that Cardinal Ratzinger did not release him likely protected children, rather than putting them further at risk.
You seem to have an ax to grind, which is messing with your objectivity.
Of course it has been a haven for pedophiles and hebophiles and homosexuals for centuries. The Vatican hierarchy began the process of recruitment when they outlawed marriage because they didn't want the heirs of deceased clergy to end up in the hands of their families. How do you think the church became such a vast self-contained empire of wealth? And the faithful think it all goes to charities, how foolish. I know it is so easy for those who have been brainwashed to overlook the abuse of small children in lieu of a place with the unknown for eternity..get real!!!
I don't think you cannot tie one with the other .On the other hand I believe that a number of priests are homosexual. Both my brother and sister were physically molested by a priest in our church as children.When my father found out he beat the priest to within an inch of his life and the church quickly sent him packing without a word .
It doesn't matter what the Catholic Church wants to say, claim, or do. The facts speak for themselves.
Maybe SOME priests are homosexuals.
It does not matter.
Child abuse is child abuse no matter what the cause.
The evasion tactics used to minimize the impact on the global perspective of the image of the church is their motus operandi.
The behaviors and coverups are sickening to most people.
It continues to dumbfound and amaze me that people still attend Catholic church services and give money to support this corrupt instituion.
How can people follow this hypocracy ?
Ignorance is one thing, but blind stupidity is another.
No, nor do I believe it is linked to the church's rule of celibacy. It is more likely that some current or future pedophiles decided to join the priesthood, possibly even in a vain hope that the church would help them curb their appetites and their service might also redeem them. Instead, in least some cases, they found a "target rich environment" which also offered them cover.
Pedophilia and homosexuality are not the same thing. Some people cannot seem to grasp this fact. I am not hearing a whole lot about these priests and adult males.
No link between the two. This is a brutal act and not an act of sex and/or caring.
To place the blame of all this abuse on homosexuality is just another flagrant act by the Vatican to try to cover their corruption in allowing abuse to be repeated over and over again..
Own up Vatican to violence that you have allowed to persist within the world society.
I think the first mistake one makes by listening to what The Vatican has to say is listening to what The Vatican has to say.
The focus of reports in the media has been on boys who have been victims. My sense is that though most victims may have been boys, there were surely girl victims as well. I don't think it is an issue of homosexuality or heterosexuality, but an issue of men with sexual problems that need to be dealt with, BEFORE they are allowed to be in any sort of position of authority, especially ones which allow them to be involved with kids.
The catholic church perverts the truth in the bible. Its priests are perverts as a result of organizational perversion. it is as simple as that.
Since the Church is unwilling to accept Catholics who happen to be homosexual it becomes a convenient label to use to excuse rather than admit it is pedophilia which is a crime. If this attitude continues the exodous from the Church will continue and so be it.
Cedar City, UT
NO, it is what it looks like. A Pedophile ring, pure and simple.
That’s like two fleas arguing over who owns the dog they are on, it doesn’t matter at all. The only thing that matters is that the priests involved are perverts and criminals and should be locked up. I don’t really give a damn what their excuse is.
Of course not, Jack. These so-called "Christians" are only trying to deflect blame for their own despicable actions. II feel sorry for Jesus, having to be on the same team with these miscreants.
Obvously IT IS a gay problem as I have never heard of a single case of raping young girls up to now. And furthermore, if one looks at the stats, you would see that every other organization (other religions, day cares, teachers, etc.) have a much worse rate of abuse then the Catholic Church. But then we wouldn't be Catholic bashing, would we?
Well Duh Jack. Hetrosexual men seldom molest young boys, so this is a no brainer. Historically, homosexual men have been attracted to jobs where they are exposed to young boys such as the boy scouts, owners of kindergartens, school teachers and counselors, and of course, Preachers and Priests. These pedofiles should NOT be protected by the Church or anyone else since they are treated as the criminals that they are in every other walk of life. It's time the Catholic church recognized this and began a program to identify these people to law enforcement and let them deal with them. Otherwise, the church is going to continue with scandals and lawsuits and losing membership. It's their choice......for now.
Absolutely not. A pedophile is a pedophile no matter what sexual orientation they possess. The Catholic church and abuse of our children disgusts me.
Santa Rosa CA
Just goes to show the hypocracy of the church: on the one had they claim that homosexuality is a choice, therefore a sin. Then they imply the pedophylia is not the priests fault because they can't help themselves.
Makes you wonder where Dante would put the whole bunch,.
If the statistics of violations of religious commitments for priests is accurate of course it is. The reported violations tend to be quite highly same sex. Does it mean homosexual men should be restricted from the priesthood? No, but they must live the life that they committed to when becoming a priest. This is the same expectation for non-homosexual priests.
When you are a little kid with working parents or a single Mom, the Church was the one place you could go unquestioned. You did not come home to any 'Who were you with?' or 'What have you been doing?' All you had to say was that you stayed after school and worked in the Church. You and your family placed enormous trust in the staffing of the local parish ... not just the priests, but the nuns and other staff. Because of this trust, abuse is a consequence of often long-time seduction. It has nothing to do with homosexuality. It is what it is ... an egregious breach of trust.
Probably within the Catholic Church because they are not allowed to marry. They must change this rule.
Sexual abuse is about power, abuse of power. Such abuse can happen within any group, church, organization, business, or family. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. You can just as easily blame step-fathers and stereotype them all as perverts. And, who are the ultimate step-fathers? Priests. But that would not address the point that the issue is about abuse of power, not sexual orientation.
The sex abuse scandal is linked to adult men who are out of control with whatever their sexuality is, be it homosexual or heterosexual,(since there are many female children that were victims also). These men have been enabled by the institution of the church to avoid responsibility and or treatment for this unacceptable behavior. To blame homosexuals for this is just another way for this megla-maniacal institution to continue on with it's notorious abuse of power. Not only should the Pope resign (which will never happen), but people should see this male dominated orginization for what it is and simply stop supporting it. It is neither God-like or spiritual, but only too human.
Where in the world would one get the idea homosexuality is associated with pedophilia, anymore than anyone else. Replace the kids in the choir with male adults, and the happy hunting ground for the abusers would by and large disappear.
This is all bait and switch. The Vatican knows that public opinion is split on homosexuality, not so much on pedophilia.
They are attempting to cover up crimes...to protect who, pedophiles? It's truly disgusting.
I'm going to say something that make some Catholics angry. But it is this it is not natural to suppress sexual feelings or urges. God crated man with those desire . It is part of gods plan we are sexual. It is the Santan who temps people to do wrong. Some give in or willing choose actions that are not in gods plan.
Having clergy that abstain from sex puts pressures and temptations in their and provides a stumbling block that allows more temptations than if they were married. I think most lay people would not experience those pressures. I don't think the clergy would be any more or less homosexual than any one else but by suppressing sex drive it allows a entry way for desires that allow a entry way for evil purposes.
If fact the bible states that if you can't handle those temptations then it is best to marry . The bible never states anything about a calibrate clergy except that it is "best" not to marry so to contemplate god's word or be devoted to god purpose. There is no out right probation of a celebrant clergy in fact it mention husbands and wives of elders and overseers .
So I feel sorry for clergy that feel those pressures and I would hope the church would allow priests to marry some day.
No, it's linked to pedophilia. These "holy" men are sick as hell, and that's exactly where they should live.
No Jack, that’s a smoke screen. The problem may not even be linked to the rule of celibacy attracting a high occurrence of pedophiles in the Church. The link you’re looking for is that the pedophiles are given sanctuary by the Church and this insulting smoke screen is proof of it.
I do not think homosexuality leads to sexual abuse. The catholic church does not want to admit that they have sexual predators who are priest in their midst. Trying to blame it on homosexuality is just another form of cover-up. They need to screen their priest more carefully and take seminars on how to spot a sexual predators. Then they need to act immediately showing the world that they have finally taken sexual abuse seriously.
Jack: The Catholic Church has protected bad priest for over 1700 years of it's history. The person who is pope will always defend their church as the holy universal apostolic church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Another words, no matter how bad things get the catholc church will prevail. It has been the belief and logic of the Catholic Church forever.
I was raised Catholic.It seems that no matter what you do,as long as you ask for forgiveness and repent for your sins you will go to Heaven,no matter what you have done.Just because it says "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife",I guess since there is nothing said about their CHILDREN,it is not considered a sin.
Greg M. Largo,FL
Oh, for heaven's sake, it is not. Pedophilia is a mental disorder, with limited treatments available to stop the diease. Homosexuality is a person's sexual identity and not an illness. Our sexual identities are determined by genetic make up. Pedophilia has nothing to do w/genetic make up.
But there are still enuf homophobic people in the world that if you speak a lie often enough, many people will see it as the truth. There is no God as put forth by any cult. It's just very difficult to prove the lies of one of the world's largest cults.
What a disingenuous defense. It's not linked to homosexuality anymore than the molestation of a young girl by a grown man is linked to heterosexuality. Pedophilia is an atrocity all on it's own, and the Vatican should be addressing the problem and owning up to it's own failings rather than trying to use an age-old scapegoat as an excuse. Besides, what would a bunch of (supposedly) celibate old men know about healthy sexuality?
Well, it can't be linked to celebacy, since these evil men are far from being celibate. In all probability, such despicable sex addicts are opportunists, who will gladly ruin the lives of as many children as possible, regardless of gender. Assaulting girls is rare, because priests don't have many opportunities to molest them. It seems that many priests consider their ordination a license to abuse. They didn't fit in with the dating scene, maybe were awkward, & unappealing, or were unable to commit to a normal relationship. Whatever the reasons, the priesthood gave them the power to demand sex from any unfortunate child who crossed their path. Since the children they came in contact with were almost exclusively male, boys became the most convenient victims. Besides, they are less likely than girls to tell anyone that they've been assaulted.
It seems to me that they are bisexual opportunists, as long as their victims are weaker than they are, regardless of gender. Abolish the priesthood!
The "Circle the Wagons" and play the "Blame Game" has been the modus operendi of the Church since the scandal started. It began with (then) Cardinal Law in Boston blaming the media for reporting the scandal, to the Vatican Official comparing the criticism of the Church to the Holocaust, now switching the blame to homosexuality. The Church has lost all rights to being the moral authority years ago, now has become a laughing stock to all but the most fervent supporters.
Actually, I think the Catholic Chuch has left itself open to this kind of scandal. What better place to have unlimited access to children that to become a priest? A few years in school is a small token to pay for the free access. Free room and board .... and kids. Their \ncelebacy does not extend to minors evidently.
A little science here. Mother Nature or God designed humans to have sex, Sex is one of the major drives and motivations. It is also part of the RC tradition that humans are to have sex and hence children.
Deny humans normal sexual experiences you will get deviations!
There is NO relationship between homosexuality and being a sex offender, none.
The RC church still holds some ideas that are as out of date as the notion that the earth is the center of the universe. Why we do not even know that there is only one universe. Competent math models show there may be many.
The church hierachy is mishandling this controversery the same as they mishandled abuse for a long time. Atributing it to one reason or another is irrelevant.
all the catholic church is interested in doing is covering up the perverts mascarading as priests, protecting their own self serving interests. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with sexual abuse.
Jack, I am catholic by name only. That said. The catholic church is one of the most outdated faiths. Celibacy is an outdated practice. Lets remember that the reason for celibacy centuries ago was so properties and wealth accumulated by priests would be inherited to the church after their death. How many cases of child sex abuse have gone unpunished in the past? The only reason they are doing something now is because public opinion is forcing them to do so. You would think their motivation would be to do the right and moral thing.
Throughout the 50s, 60s and early 70s, the Catholic church barely mentioned homosexuals in the public forum as it was such a taboo subject at the time. The Catholic laity was applying tried and true methods of guilt and offense toward their gay children. I believe that many young gay adults joined the ranks of the Catholic clergy at that time as a way to 'repent' or to dodge pressure from families to marry, etc... This is a generation that is now trapped inside. Some of them are now themselves bishops or part of the church hierarchy. Thankfully, gay men no longer seek shelter in church because of the gay right movement's advances.
This appears to be another attempt by the church to demonize another group instead of take a good, hard look at itself in the mirror. There's no truth at all to linking gays to pedophilia, but the truth doesn't sensationalize things enough. They'd blame Tiger if they could figure out the right angle.
Jim from Boston, MA
Yes, I believe the sexual abuse of chrildren in the Catholic Church is linked to homosexuality.
I grow up in Catholic homes and institutes (1950's early 60's). Never a problem.
In the late 60's early 70's the Catholic seminaries were over run with gays. I knew several priest that walked away from the church because of this.,
There were probably problems before but they were a rarity.
All I know is the Catholic Church's inability to admit that they are human, and they too sin, is going to result in the continued abuse of children. Perhaps the Church should put a little less emphasis on attendance, and a little more emphasis on practice.
A small percentage of society are perverts who practice pedophilia Jack,that's just a fact. Some of these people are rich busionessmen who travel the globe to satisfy their affliction and unfortunately a percentage of them are hiding in the Church. They need to be held accountable and the Church must cooperate with what society and its' members are demanding. Homosexuality nor celibacy have nothing to do with what abuse was carried out by priests. Many,many people do not have sex for very long periods of time and the thoughts of bothering ANY child,boy or girl,never entires their minds. All of these perverts have problems and need to be removed from the general public because they truly cannot help themselves. No child is safe around them.
It sounds very much like the nonsense spewed by some of the priests and nuns when I attended catholic schools many years ago. I was lucky, there were a few kind hearted ones in some of our parishs, but there was violence too. Fear was a good way to keep us in line. Children were necessary evils to some of them. I guess the tangled web of deceit is going to catch up to them now. I just wonder how many innocent people went to their graves thinking what happened to them was their fault.
Not only are the Vatican's continued attempts to equate homosexuality with pedophilia patently untrue, the insinuations are offensive, ignorant and show yet again just how out of touch and irrelevant the Catholic Church is in the 21st century. If the church were simply to allow its clergy and congregants to express their true and mature sexual nature (gay or straight) they might actually do some good in this world. Then again, is it a surprise that an institution whose era of greatest influence was during the Middle Ages turns again and again to archaic world views and a medieval thirst for oppression?
Justin in Sacramento, CA
No Jack,its not linked.This is just another attempt to,find a reason ,an excuse, a way to hide and kick this under the rug along with all the other disgusting sins they have committed and covered up.They'll do anything to get this thing behind them as fast as possible.
It's pretty obvious it is linked in most cases to homosexuality. Not all cases, but in most. This does not excuse these horrible abuses. But let's not again, hide our heads in the sand to avoid an unpleasant reality. These crimes should be brought to light and dealt with regardless of hurting someone's feelings.
I don't believe that sexual abuse in the church is linked to homosexuality, but to amorality.
Not, the sex abuse scandal is NOT linked to homosexuality – most legitimate experts have dismissed that canard which is merely being used by the Catholic Church hierarhy to muddy the water. Celibacy and the Church's bizarre approach to all things sexual are the root cause. This is exacerbated by the Church's culture of secrecy and disregard for non-clergy.
I am a former Catholic who left the Church because of the leadership's moral bankrutcy on this issue.
Hampton, Virginia 23661
This is FAR from homosexuality.It is child abuse.The show Predator with Chris Hansen has already caught a Rabbi,a policeman,a teacher,and several members of the Armed Forces.Priests are supposed to be helping,not abusing.
Greg M. Largo,FL
With all due respect, I do not think it matters what we call these predators ( and their Church protectors).That analysis is for the experts. The sad result is still the destruction of innocent , defenseless children by very warped men. In the everyday world, we just call them pedophiles and punish them .
They are child molesters Jack! A priest may wrongly choose to be gay but that has nothing to do with it! These priests accused of sexual abuse are creeps preying on children! To have the Catholic church pawn this off as a homosexuality problem is completely wrong.
Jack, the answer is, yes, however, no more than in the real world. The number of pedeophiles/homosexuals and pedeophile/bisexuals in the church are probably not out of proportion to the numbers in society. Celibacy is NOT a reason either, it just an excuse, and once again the church is attempting to sidetrack the issue. The issue is the kids, and the criminals should answer to the law, not the church.
Jack. Hardly. If a category is needed, it's power crazed sick people. The pedophiles are too. Layne A. Antioch, Il.
Abusing a child sexually is an abhorrent deed. The fact that the current Pope in his previous position considered "the protection of the church above all else. Implies, the organizations leaders come first and foremost. Its clear to me they refuse they feel no obligation to the congregation their only obligation is to themselves. What depths they have fallen to from the original teaching of Christ. A seemingly never ending deplorable state of affairs that has persisted for centuries. To hell with the congregation a true statement by actions. Sad, very sad indeed.
Perhaps, some might be based on human nature. Sex is part of it and abstaining is not the answer.
Jack, It is clear that the church still doesn't get it. They don't really have any more pedophiles than the rest of the population, but the problem is they won't remove them and still protect them. That does make them a big target because we expect honesty from our faith leaders, and expect them to do the right thing. Unfortunately they have acted like they are above the law, and therfore eventually will be doomed unless they can turn out all those that hid the problem, and start new. Unfortunately its the innocent parishioners that pay the lawsuits.
I was appalled when I heard of these abuses, and it may be linked to homosexuality. A lot of the time in strict catholic families, a son who is gay will usually join the priesthood for its vow of chastity, so he will not have to "come out" to his parents. On the other hand though not all of the abused children are boys, some are girls. This means it may be indirectly linked to homosexuality, but it is definitely and directly linked to the churches' policy of chastity for the clergy.
Instead of giving excuse after excuse after excuse, the Catholic Church needs to own up to what they did. Start defrocking the abusive priests, turn them into the police, and remove any other Catholic Church priest involved in the scandal. Give the children the justice and peace of mind they deserve.
I'm a Catholic, albeit a convert some 20 years ago) and I damn near fell off my chair (and off my religion) when I heard the Church come out with that statement. Me thinks these guys have been sniffing way too much incense.
No no Jack… this is going the wrong way. Linking pedophilia to any thing else is simply static, noise, smoke screen. Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone is just trying to defuse the truth, cloud the issue, divert attention from the church and blame it on something else. The church, apparently from the top, is trying to shift blame away from itself. NO NO… Not accepted. The priests have been caught red-handed. The church has been caught red-handed. The Pope and his secretary have been caught red –handed. It is time for punishment from the top down.
Brian Smith Ph.D. San Diego CA. USA
No. It's linked to an un-natural agenda of the church. The Catholic priest-hood is a haven for the sexually repressed and the mentally unbalanced. Only ignorant people would believe otherwise.
I don't believe it's linked to homosexuality so much as a system that does not allow the growth of a mature sexuality. There are many gays, and few are pedophiles. Pedophile priests are caught in a prepubescent fantasy wherein the innocence of the victim is the drawing card. They have been taught that there is something onerous in sex per se, and sex between adults. They thus try to fulfill their needs with what they consider the closest accommodation to those fantasies. The innocence of the child is transferred to give them a sense of cleanliness.
I'd say that celibacy creates the perfect enviroment for homosexuals and pedophiles. Gay priests must view this as their Club Med. It even has the additional protection of insurance against prosecution.
No, I do not think the sexual abuse is related to homosexuality.
The notion that an all loving, all powerful, all knowing God, would want a human male or female to not have sex for their entire lives in order to prove their devotion to said God is exactly what is wrong with religion.
it is a sick mind not a gay mind who picks on children.
It really does not matter if it is linked to homosexuality or not, rape and sodomy have been happening for years in the catholic church and it is time to shut them down. First the federal and local governments need to take away the tax exempt status of churches. Why should taxpayers both federal and local have to subsidize an organization that refuses to deal with sex crimminals. Secondly the priests who have commited these crimes need to be arrested, and prosecuted for rape and sodomy. Churches who hide these crimminals should be charged with harboring a crimminal.
No. At least 30% of victims, including myself, were female. To say priests abused boys because they were homosexual is like saying some men abuse little girls or rape women because they are straight.
I lived in Europe during my childhood, brought up a catholic and altar boy. I did witness some inappropriate behavior by priests and children, also between priests and nuns. This experience opened my eyes and made me think what is the roll of religion? Yes, some but not all priests are homosexuals or lean towards homosexuality. Yes there is a problem with their behavior around young and adolescence children's. Religion is not to be blamed or denominations for that matter, in my opinion the catholic Church should be examining or contemplating if it should allow priests to marry and maybe that would attract priests with better character.
Apple Valley, MN
Then are nothing but pediphiles, plain and simple.
The sexual abuse of children in the Catholic Church is linked to a depraved mentality, the abandonment of all self-discipline, and a sense of monumental egotism. This egotism assumes that the institution of the church will protect the predator who is a priest instead of the victim who is a child. Blaming homosexuality for this blatant mockery of Christ's teachings reveals the sad state of thinking in this venerated religion. A lack of clarity in this church continues to find newer ways to underscore its own moral blindness. How can you claim to be a spiritual leader without obeying the most simple rudiments of moral law? Without morality there is no spirituality.
I don’t think priestly pedophilia has anything to do with homosexuality or celibacy directly. The priesthood didn’t make them that way; they were already predestined when they joined the seminary and they knew it. It was a good hiding place. The real link between sexual abuse of children and the Church is the Vatican ignoring it and allowing bad priests to remain in the priesthood and not be put in prison.
Of course not! This is just the church doing its best to cover up its incompatence yet again! The church has been abusing people for centuries and denying it. Do you really think it would be any different now. How many so called celibate popes have had children? Check the history books. The answer is lots. It is the old "do as I say, not as I do" mantra. It is old and tired.
It doesn't matter what you link it to, sex with children is a crime and should be dealt with. The church has the responsibility to treat this crime as any other, call the appropriate authorities immediately. It is the best and quickest solution for the children and the church. The church is not above the earths laws. If the law of government is not justified...God will deal with that on heavens payday.
It is important that we not generalize. Is the abuse homosexual? Perhaps in some cases it is. Is celibacy the reason that priests molest?Certainly not. These are men who hide in the church and commit dastardly acts on the innocent. They should have been prosecuted, but were not by a clergy that is corrupt. They have been holding onto their parishioners for centuries through fear and intimidation. It will continue until the people rise up and say "no more". And stop giving their hard earned money to those that represent evil!
Absolutly Not Jack! Iam a Homosexual and this offends me greatly that the Catholic Church would link sexual abuse by priests to Homosexuality! This has nothing to with homosexuality at all it simply has to do with priests who are nothing but pedophiles, Im a Homosexual and I would never think about sleeping with a child at all, all these priests and all the way up to the Pope should be held accountable and arrested and sent to prison for the rest of there miserable lives! Shame on Pope Benedict Arnold AKA Traitor for allowing these sexual abuse acts to be committed and never doing nothing about it! May God never have mercy on his soul, this Pope and the Catholic Church is just sicking, Im so glad Im not a Catholic or part of the Catholic Church!
Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)
Well,the fact remains that such a universal congregation must definitely record entrant of bad eggs as priests.50% of the priest are there just to erk a living and these priests show their lack of commitment by their behaviour.
Jack, it depends on what century it is. No wait, it doesn't matter what century it is: sexual abuse and the Catholic church are always wrong!
This is several issues- one of widespread and long-term child abuse by clergy and an issue of church officials defrocking clergy who have relationships with consenting adults while protecting and retaining pedophiles. Homosexuality is, at most a secondary issue and possibly a smokescreen. The underlying problems seem to be chruch enablers and parents who don't teach their children what to do if accosted by a pedophile.
Jack: It is linked to a lot more than homosexuality-–how about pedephfile; mental illness; moral corruption and bankrupcy; deception; and covering it all up to save the image of the Church--and those who are supposing to be serving in behalf of God and the Church members---another fog screen. Religion has now become a big business-–and anything that interferes with businees--is not good for business. Saving souls comes with price if you are going to heaven-–going to hell is free.
Thousands of children being raped and sodomized by Vatican clerics under the care of the Vatican cannot simply be pushed off nor explained by the Vatican as 'homosexual priests'.
Many of those horribly abused children were young girls. They were repeatedly raped and sodomized also by those Vatican clerics while under the care of the Vatican.
Pope Ratz should Resign.
The Vatican should be sued back to the Dark Ages.
The issue is pedophilia and perhaps even sado-masochism; psychological disorders.
Homosexuality is not a psychological disorder..
Homosexuality has nothing to do with it. It's child sexual abuse, pure and simple, and those in the church who have committed the crime should end up doing the time.
Is the sexual abuse of children in the Catholic Church linked to homosexuality?
Homosexuality and Pedophilia are two very different things Jack.
Homosexuality is to be attracted to the same sex, Pedophillia is to be attracted to children.
In the Catholic Church both boys and girls were diddled with.
So NO this is not a homosexual thing.
The fact that we are dealing with the church here is totally irrelevant. Why does there have to be a link to anything? If your gay your gay. If your a pedophile your a pedophile. The only difference is one is accepted and the other should mean a slow and painful death at the hands of the parents of the victim. If there are no parents to involved, give me a call.
My family has been catholic for many years, and thankfully none of us have had to go through the horrors of being abused by those who are supposed to help deepen our catholic faith. This has left us heartbroken and confused.
Of course it isn't, what it is is a very pathetic attempt at straw grasping and another reminder why the catholic institution needs to peek out its door and realize it isn't the middle ages anymore. Even though I am not gay, I abhor the slander of a large group of our society who are no more prone to pedophilia than heterosexuals.
Whether you believe homosexuality is genetic, a choice, or a sin, one thing's for certain. The vast majority of the clergy involved in the abuse of minors are openly or secretly homosexual. But rather than demonizing homosexual activity, we need to focus on the real problem... the Catholic Church's leadership is criminally responsible for the actions of its pedophile priests who ruthlessly abused children. Punishment must be brought to bear on those who knew and covered it up, and meaningful restitution to the victims needs to be paid.
I find it amazing that anyone can call this a gay problem. It is a lack of information to comment that only boys were predated upon.. WRONG. There are many instances of young girls being abused by members within the church. Just look into the horrendous abuses of Native Americans on this continent within the forced schooling that lasted into the 1980's. Girls and boys were both abused by priests. Some schools were 100% abused.
It doesn't matter if the problem is celibacy or homosexuality with the priests that molested little boys or little girls. It needs to stop now and the Catholic church needs to stop hiding the wrongs committed against these youngsters. If every priest ends up behind bars, they need to be prosecuted for rape. A full investigation needs to be conducted and those who knew of the rapes and did not report it to authorities need to go to jail too. No wonder we have mixed up adults living in our society when the very people they looked up to when children abused them and told them not to tell. My blood boils and I have no pity on the pedophiles.
No, girls get abused also. The Catholic church’s policies of celibacy and confession make priesthood a candy store of perversion for damaged men seeking cover, gay or not. Ordain women, they rarely rape and statistically are twice as likely to actually believe in God, as apposed to simply subscribing like most men to God as a means to an end. Abusive priests couldn’t possibly believe God is watching, unless they’re exhibitionists looking forward to a great party in hell later.
No, I think it is linked to not allowing people who want to have a lifelong relationship with another human being to become a priest.,
The Church has done a shameful job of covering up this mess. But it is the pedophile and not a homosexual problem.
What does it matter? Some abuse is directed as same sex children and some at opposite sex kids. It is pedophilia in either case.
The best way to stop most of it in my opinion is for the Catholic church to permit priests to marry, and to allow women to be priests, and to end the strange celibate existence in which today's priests must live.
I think pedophilia has more to do with power & control over a person than anything else. The priests victims are children..very easy to manipulate & frighten into submission. The sexual act ,rape is the final act in this horrendous action. Maybe the entire Catholic hierarchy think they can hide their heads under the cover......sorrytoo late ,time to pay the piper!!!!
No, pedophilia is not....... repeat not...... related to homosexuality! Good grief! I believe that the crisis in the Roman Catholic church is due to thousands of years of 'sweeping problems under the carpet', years of denial and because the all male hierarchy is not in touch with humanity!
The hierarchy of the church is out of touch, many of them, especially the older ones in power, like Ratzinger, entered the seminary very young before they even found out who they were! Before they knew about the intricacies of relationships. There is no way that the hierarchy understands what its victims have suffered!
The Catholic church must change, or die.
It only makes sense if you are the one who made the statement or you support the present actions of the Pope. The church must be protected at all cost is one hell of a position to take.
What about the members of the church. What about GOD. If the church is busy protecting the church and it's priest, who is going to look out for the best interest of GOD and all Catholics.
Child abuse is absolutely not linked to homosexuality, and the Catholic Church is trying to divert attention away from them by making insane accusations like that. It is their total lack of disiplining their own priests that that lead to all of these accusations by parishioners of years of abuse. It sounds like a real good old boys club to me!
I'm interpreting the Catholic Church saying members and the priest are pedophiles and the abuse of children is linked to homosexuals.
Well, consider the source, this is the same group that insisted the earth was flat, long after the rest of us figured out that it is round.
No, it's linked to pedophilia. Who will the Vatican be blaming next week, the victims? They've already been through everyone else but themselves.
The Vadican once again deflects away from the real problem. Until you recognize the problem, can you only then truly fix it.
I'd say it's more related to forced celibacy.
I don't think it's linked to homosexuality, I think it's linked to a lot of sick people who think their position ensures that they won't get caught.
Wow, what a buch of bull– I do believe the Cardinal's statement can be called "not me" ism... the pedophile priests are the blameless, instead homosexuality is to blame... why can't the Pope and the Vatican own up on this?... the only way for the Church to gain some credibility back(if its not too late for that) is to make those who are guilty face justice...the real abomination is not homosexuality... its pedophilia, and those that try to cover it up!!!!
That has got to be the dumbest malarky I have ever heard, Jack. In no way are homosexuals pedophiles. Most pedophiles are heterosexuals. There are a feww homosexuals who are, but for the most part it is straight people. The catholic church hates homosexuals so of course the catholic church is going to blame this on the gay community. It doesn't seem like religion is ever going to fess up that having presist remain celibate is just un-natural and is allowing pedophiles to use celibacy in the church to do their evil towards children. I think if the catholic church doesn't want to change their ways, then the catholic church needs to be permanently dismantled by the governments of the world so that children do not become victims of preist pedophiles again.
Big Spring, TX.
Sex abuse against children within the Catholic church is connected to homosexuality as much as the Vatican is connected to legitimate Christian values such as love, compassion, and empathy. In short: No connection whatsoever.
Why is it so hard for people to understand? Pedophilia is NOT homosexuality, it is a mental problem. Sexual orientation is NOT a religious issue – it's a biological issue related to genetics. Sexual LIFESTYLE can and should be a legal and religious issue. DNDT and same-sex marriages are related to orientation and MAY be, but most likely are NOT also associated with "lifestyle". Orientation, lifestyle, and pedophilia are NOT the same. Let's make some effort to get the terms correct before blasting someone's orientation. Instead, let's do something about pedophilia and lawbreakers, whatever their orientation.
Sexual deviates – male and female- throng to institutional settings, especially those that take care of young children. It isn't just the Roman Catholic Church, it's orphanages, private schools and juvenile detention facilities.
The Church has done itself a much greater sin by concealing those deviates and their enablers for centuries.
The problem is that the Church think they are above human pain, thinking always that One can forgive the atrocities done to our children. They don't care if they did they would had done something long time ago. They must never forget that they have also have to answer to GOD. They had failed to protect us. The priest who engaged in taking away the spirit of the children should be sent to an Island with the POPE, to pray for their sins, to never come back. The Pope should be ultimately responsible for the crimes of his company. He has dome nothing yet, and most likely never will. Tony
The sexual abuse in the Catholic church is linked to sexual perversion, pedophilia, and an organization that not so subtly encouraged pedophiles to sign up knowing they would be shielded by the Catholic self-protective hierarchy. Further, let's face it the Catholic church's entire view of sexual relations, women, and birth control is perverted as well. And finally their current handling of it will be their final destruction.
No, statistically more heterosexual people abuse children. However, it seems that many religious entities would rather stick their heads in the sand than look at real research and statistics.
It's not about homosexuality, obviously. It's simply about victimization of the weak by the strong.
This is disgusting and totally outrageous. I cannot even begin to describe my disappointment with the Vatican. I hope for their dignity's sake that there is an apology issued.
Just like the Catholics to want to blame someone else or something else for their disgusting transgressions. Pedophilia is a heterosexual crime. It has nothing to do with homosexuality. But Christian homophobia tries to find a perfect scapegoat, once again. To hell with the Catholic church, to hell with the Pope. When will the human race grow up and be done with these criminals?
Its sin...If it was homosexuality then they would have sex with each other or grown men. They committ this sin on children...male and female.
Absolutely not! As a gay man I am strongly offended by the common misconception that homosexuality is somehow linked to pedophilia. Homosexuality relates to gender, not age. Perhaps the incidents occurring in the Church are somehow related to the Church itself. Just something to think about...
Come on, Jack. Homosexuality and pedophilia are two different things. That's why they have different names. People who don't know the difference don't need to be part of the debate.
A priest who molests a child, male or female, is a pedophile, plain and simple.
A priest who has sex with another adult male is a homosexual.
What part of this is there not to understand?
I strongly disagree with that statement. I do not think that homosexuality has ANYTHING to do with children being molested. Child-molesters are child-molesters...despite their sexual identity. This statement is amazingly offensive to those who identity as homosexual.
Hell no!!! Homosexuals are rarely interested in children. Do these idiots touting this think we all just fell off a turnip truck? These molesters are pedophiles and need to be exposed and punished as such. Boo on the pope and anyone in the church that protect these monsters.
I believe most priests join around the age of 18. Anybody who would choose a life of celibacy at the age of 18 (i.e. RAGING HORMONES) is definitely messed up and needs some psychotherapy. The church is trying to suppress that which is normal, natural, and instinctual. The church should be dissolved. Anybody supporting the Catholic church these days should be ashamed of themselves.
Absolutely not. And this is not a new attempt by the church to distract public attention from the crimes committed against children by trying to blame another minority group that it has helped persecute over the ages.
When Benedict was Cardinal Ratzinger, he helped created more severe language to describe homosexuals as intrinsically broken. Now that his right hand man would point the finger at "the broken ones" just makes sense. It's the next move in the game of corporate denial.
The people who say the sexual abuse of children in the Catholic Church is always linked to homosexuality should read about the case of Father James Porter in Boston. Porter molested more than 100 children of both sexes.
Another excuse like the others that preceeded it.
NO, NO, NO, homosexuality is NOT to blame for priests molesting kids! The whole "no sex" thing for priests is unhealthy and unnatural. Don't try to blame the church's problem on gay people! The church has not served gays well, and this is another stone thrown at them! Missouri Mom
The false justifications never end here. If you open up a job opportunity for these child molesters. They will come! If you protect them to protect the incompetence of the church. Then you have given these child molesters a dream job!
That could be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Its time to think of the children that have been hurt. Quit hiding behind Jesus and take a stand before more innocent children are hurt.
Why do all people try to blame pedophilia on homosexuality? It has been statistically proven that heterosexual men are more likely to be sexual offenders than any other group. This is why I have turned away from religion. These people cannot take accountability for their own actions. If the church expects people to still buy into them then they need to get their act together or be prepared for the consequences of covering up for these terrible people.
If it has anything to do with homosexuality, its the fact that the church takes such a violently relentless stance on homosexuality that causes these men to bury their true sexual natures under years of self-hate and and fear of losing their jobs, and credibility as priests. Even so, their actual conduct has nothing to do with whether or not they are homosexuals, but everything to do with their perverse natures and criminal behaviors. The church isn't going to be able to hide behind their right to believe that homosexuality is a sin this time, its not going to be that easy.
I am a homosexual male and not a pedophile.I think the catholic church just needs someone to blame or needs another story to make up to continue the hate that the Catholic church spreads. Homesexuality is not a choice, I would never choose to be homesexual if it was.
As a Gay Catholic man I am very disappointed in the Catholic church today. Pedophilia is NOT homosexuality but a mental illness! I did not choose this lifestyle nor did I choose my religion. I am tired of the Catholic church throwing blame around. They need to take responsibility, ask for forgiveness, apologize, and excommunicate priests who continue sexual abuse. Enough is enough already!
This is a bunch of crap designed to deflect attention and responsibility away from the catholic church. We have got to stop putting religions and their officials on pedestals placed high above the law and common decency. They are simply men and women in fancy robes in fancy churches who should be held just as accountable for wrongdoing as anyone else.
Martin Luther failed to bring the Catholic Church into the sixteenth century. Good luck trying to drag it into the twenty-first.
Jack, The sexual assault on children by Catholic priests has gone on for a long time. The Church has abetted the guilty priests by hiding them and asking the victims to "think of the church." When have we every heard of the Church EVER turning one of these criminals in?
It’s far from it... I am speaking as a child who went to a boarding school in Maine and the Priest tried to molest me.... I was a small blond hair boy... I was ejected from the school because I kicked him so hard in the Low point he was carted to hospital.
Forbidding the priests to get marry causes them to molest children. I don't know why they are different than other human.
The Catholic Church caused its own problem with pedophile priests. They denied the priests normal healthy sexual expression as adults with other adults. Gay men don't have sex with children. Don't blame homosexuality for what is the Catholic Church's fault and creation.
Blaming homosexuality for the Church's abuse scandal is as ridiculous as saying the allegations the Pope was instrumental in the cover-up "petty gossip." This is just another sign that the morality of the Church is faulty; any good morality teaches that accountability for one's actions is key. Now they are seeking to push blame on an a segment of society the Church has already been responsible for marginalizing.
If this priest is a homosexual it did not cause him to take advantage of these young boys. It is the heterosexism of the Catholic Church. He was forced to suppress his sexuality causing him to act out.
If there was any doubt about complete moral bankruptcy of the "Universal Church", this ends the argument. This is at best, obstruction of justice. I'm a teacher, and am required by law to report any suspicion of child abuse. I guess those kind of standards don't apply to the ostensibly holy. Catholicism is a fraud and a sham, and deserves to be sued out of existence.
It is not a homosexual behavior to abuse children. It is a preditors behavior and thus pediphil type behavior, in hopes that the children do not understand the attack and will not mention it. The priest will feed their heads with guilt and then the children are fearful of ever telling their parents.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, etc. – of course there is a gay component to the priest behavior – let them marry and all would change! Add a culture of no one challenging them and it's a recipe for...what it is and has been.
Ludicrous. As usual and typical of any corrupt politiical goverment or regime such as that of the Catholic Church, it's all about cover, scapegoats, smoke-and-mirrors, and diversions. Fortunately, in this day and age, many of us can see right through it all. 3-D glasses not needed. Game over.
I was raised in the catholic church and attended a small catholic elementary school in pennsylvania, taught my nuns. I was an altar boy and believed everything the nuns and priests told me. We had a pastor priest who showed great interest in my younger sister. He had even asked my mom for permission to take her to a retreat for a week! Fortunately, my mom had the sense to resist this, even though she had the greatest respect for priests, as pretty much everyone did. Years later, my sister wrote the the bishop in Harrisburg and sadly, nothing was done to address this. This priest used to come to our house often to watch my sister playing. No, I do not believe homosexuality is to blame in the least. The catholic church is a dinosaur and a corrupt organization very much out of touch. It long past due for the church to face the realities of their own internal corruption. To say they should be more than ashamed is a huge understatement!
A disproportionate amount of the sexual abuse by priests is male-on-male (and generally post-pubescent male).If the molesters were pedophiles they'd stick to pre-pubescents and if they were heterosexual they wouldn't focus on males.Looks like a slam-dunk for the Vatican case,despite exceptions...and I am not and never have been religious.
The Church has historically been vicious against gay people and blaming this on homosexuality is just another desperate attempt to cover their ass. I am absolutely outraged and disgusted by the reckless disregard of the Church for pedophile behavior. All of those involved in the pedophile cases should receive at least jail time for their behavior.
The Catholic Church should cut the bull. Churches that allow priests to marry are not rife with pedophilia. And most homosexual men are disgusted by by the goings on within the Catholic Church. The problem isn't homosexuality, nor is it celibacy. It's denial. As long as the Catholic Church continues to signal that it will harbor and protect pedophiles, it will attract perverts from all corners of the earth to join its ranks.
It is a widespread misconception that sexual abuse is done by homosexuals. All statistics show that non homosexuals commit sexual abuse. I have spend 30+ years teaching self defense to women and children and have NEVER heard a story of child abuse done by a homosexual.
The church and others like to use the words homosexual and pedifile interchangeably, which is incorrect. I hope you and your show will get it right.
The actions of the church revolving around sexual acts have nothing to do with homosexuality, and for the catholic church to use homosexuality as a scapegoat for their easily correctable problems may be evidence that the extensive growth of the religion has lead to corruption from within.
This only proves that the church is more interested in protecting the church rather than their followers. They have a pedophile problem not because of homosexuality or celibacy, but because it is well known that the Catholic Church is safe harbor for pedophiles.
Can sexually abusing a child of the opposite sex be blamed on heterosexuality??? Of course not....it's a sick, disgusting behavior not at all caused by sexual preference. To be honest, I think if the Catholic Church wants to get to the root of the problem, maybe they should reconsider their celibacy requirement for the clergy. Human beings are sexual creatures and the archaic policies and practices of the Church itself are probably more to blame than anything else.
The abuse in the Catholic Church is not linked to homosexuality. It's linked to a church that treats sex as something dirty and not to be discussed. Then they recruit their (male-only) clergy and demand they be celibate in opposition to all natural impulses. Since the clergy aren't allowed no legitimate access to sex they seek illegitimate outlets. The Catholic Church essentially breeds sexually abusive individuals.
Being an abused male, who suffered his childhood abuse from his heterosexual married father, I think it is ludicrous to blame the abuse on homosexuality. It is proven that the predominance of pedophiles are heterosexual, not homosexual. The Catholic Church (which I was raised as part of) needs to learn the same thing as so many others do today: personal responsibility and free will! Perhaps if they were to do so they could actually find solutions to the problems they face, instead of burying their head in the sand and blaming everyone but the people responsible. Shame on you Vatican, shame on you.
It's not homosexuality, it's celibacy. If it were you would have heard about adult priests having affairs but you don't It wasn't until the 1600s that celibacy was required in the church and I doubt it was a revelation from God.
They are only linked in the warped thought process that keeps the Roman Catholic Church in the Dark Ages. Most priest offenders (and pedophiles outside the clergy) are straight, not gay. Linking pedophilia and homosexuality is the smokecreen the Vatican uses to make it appear to the world that it's actually doing something about sexual abuse of ALL kinds of people- children and adults. The warped view of human sexuality that has prevailed for so long in the RCC has kept both women and married men of good character out of the pulpit in favor of a sick secretive system that exists only to keep those in power in their places.
I've got 3 words for you Jack, celebacy, celebacy, celebacy.
Human beings cannot be celebate and if forced to do so will take advantage of any situation that becomes available, and as children present an available target, they get abused. In addition, the situational availability of children within the Church, with the cover of "celebacy", would draw more than its fair share of pedophiles to the Church.
Rick from Toronto
Yes, homosexuality is a strong indicator of predatory behavior by Catholic priests. The media is kow-towing to homosexuals by continually trying to use the smokescreen term – pedophilia – when the majority of victims were at or past puberty when abused. Homosexuals hid behind outward celibacy and preyed on adolescents. Some true pedophilia and some heterosexual abuse occurred – yes – but the sex scandal in the Catholic Church was and is primarily caused by homosexuals.
Homosexuality is a sexual choice, not a violent crime.
An act of love, not an act of violent control.
Totally ridiculous. How do you explain the abuse of little girls. All those priests should be in prison. They should be registered as sex offenders. The Church has lost the respect of those of us who were raised Catholic. There is a reason why there are so many ex-Catholics in mainstream Christian churches. The celibacy rule is a man made issue in the Catholic Church to historically prevent property passing to the wife. As the Catholic Church implodes, they should perhaps consider turning in all their pervert priests to the authorities and allow their clergy to marry. If not, the Church will continue to die the slow death that they have been doing this last decade since they are out of touch with reality.
Are there homosexual priests? Is the Pope Catholic? Of course there are. Are these pedophiles homosexual? Of course not. Pedophiles are criminals, sick, twisted men posing as priests. End the stupid celibracy rules, let priests marry like normal men and root out the sick pedophiles, turn them in to the civil authorities and let them take their chances in jail. That should be fun. Tell the Pope to resign, in disgrace.
Can you spell SCAPEGOAT? A "goat" (in this case homosexuals), carrying the sins of the people (the guilty clergy) placed on it, is sent away to perish (as he probably believes homosexuals are bound for hell).
It's time that the church be held accountable for it's crimes. The priesthood is a convenient and protected hiding place for pedophiles. And although the priesthood is no doubt a protected place for closeted homosexuals, the idea that homosexuality and pedophilia are the same thing highlights the ignorance and deceit of the church. Such logic needs to be exposed.
When any instituion restricts the natural reproduction and established physiology of a male, there is going to be a internal battle within. You need food to eat, air to breathe, and sexual freedom to allow the hormonal balance in ones body to function properly. This garbage about celibacy being holy and righteous is forcing men to go against the natural order of the very God that created it.
Excuses, excuses, excuses. Nothing more than excuses from the leaders of the church hoping to cover up a truly massive incident that has been occurring for literally generations. We've seen proof that priests have not only been going after young boys, but young girls also. I'd be willing to bet if we dug deep enough one would find even more shocking acts of sexual deviancy. Yes, even more shocking than pedophilia.
dear jack. i am a 72 yr. old gay man who over the years has had many gay friends and still do. i have never known any of my aquaintances to have had any sexual attraction to a child or sought any kind of destructive relationship with a young boy. the pope needs to become educated about human sexuality. or even better, he should resign. donald longfellow, st. petersburg, fla.
Damn it, this has nothing to do with sexual orientation, this is CHILD ABUSE period. The world needs to stop trying to categorize the why, who and where. These freaks are abusing children and getting a pass from their superiors. That's the bottom line. I don't bloody well care whether they are representative of the population, they have been given authority. The Catholic church ordains them and places them above the laity. Enough, Stop it, bring them to justice. Period, and if it costs the church every penny they have so be it.
Homosexuality and pedophilia are two different things. Homosexuals are attracted to other adults of the same gender. Pedophiles want to harm children. If homosexuality were the Catholic Church's "problem", then there wouldn't really be a problem. The rectories would be filled with happy, adult gay men and not twisted child predators.
Of course the church's sex abuse is linked to homosexuality!!
There is no "cause-effect" relation between the two, just as there is no cause-effect relationship between abstenance and child abuse.
I think that there is a stronger link between people in positions of power and sex abuse than anything else.
And that the cause of sex abuse is "sickness" and moral depravity.
Only ignorance can account for equating pedophilia with homosexuality.
Homosexuality is not a devient behavior . The Catholic Church should consider gaining some knowledge.
As a 68 year old "craddle Catholic" I am appaled at the outrageous propaganda that homosexuals are responsible for the sexual abuse. I love the church's work with the poor and Catholic Social Justice teaching, but I am a member of a "very sick" church. I don't know how much longer Catholic will be my faith tradition. The Pope needs to step down, the Bishops involved need to step down. Mandatory celibacy should end and women be allowed as priests. Also, they also should sell what they have and give it to the poor!
The molestation of young boys in the Catholic Church has nothing to do with homosexuality. As a Catholic girl growing up in the 50's and 60's, the only time I was even remotely close to a priest is when I took communion. It was the BOYS who were allowed up on the altar, it was the BOYS who were back there robing and disrobing for Mass, so it follows they would have been the victims of sexual abuse. It was purely a case of situational pedophilia. The Church is reacting like an ostrich with its head in the sand. I am saddened by all this.
Power corrupts-absolute power corrupts absolutely; old news. The Catholic church is the most corrupt institution in the world. It claims absolute power over the souls of the believers. It can get with anything, coverup anything, or so it thinks.. Molestation of children by Catholic priests has been going on for hundreds and hundreds of years.
Is it linked to homosexuality? Some of it is. But sexual abuse of young girls is very common.
If the Catholic Church finally realize that the press will not go away, will not tire of this story, will fight for truth and justice, some of the abuse may stop. But remember, these people realy, really believe in their infallibility.
The sexual abuse of children in the Catholic Church does appears to be linked to homosexuality. I haven’t seen the statistics, but I suspect that the percentage of homosexual priest in the church is greater than the number of homosexual males in the general population. The number of abused boys by the all-male clergy is more frequently reported than the abuse of girls.
I'm a nurse and I have worked in the psychiatric field for years. I've spoken to many young men who are gay. All of them had been sexually abused as a child. My professional experience says yes!
The Catholic priesthood is a haven for gay men. It always has been since the Middle Ages. We should not dismiss the possibility that atleast some of the abuses have been perpetrated by gay priests.
Sexual predators come in all colors don't they? Why then should they not come in all sexual orientations? We must not dismiss every possibility just because we don't happen to think its politically correct.
It's not caused by homosexuality... it's caused by perverted priests who think that just because they are a priest, they are above the law. Wrong is wrong no matter who you are.
No! The present problem is the direct result of the Church requiring men to be celebate in order to be priests. Out of any group of healthy men, no matter how dedicated, the most powerful urge . . . to have sex and (as the consequence) to reproduce. . . will win out over any force of will in some of those men. If denied women the result will be to seek out men for consentual sex. If too fearful to seek out other men, children will be the next in line.
The Church needs, first of all, to go back 800 years and allow priests to marry as, was once, the case.
Hypocrites! The Catholic church wants to be recognized as a symbol of what is holy about God, but they are falling short. To blame the sex abuse scandals on homosexuals which are supposedly Priest in its flocks is nonsense.
What if young girls were molested by priest, would this make the act homosexuality? No, the leadership of the Catholic church needs to get out of theVatican and start investigating these matters close up instead of word of mouth.
These excuses that the Vatican uses just shows you how out of touch the church is with its flock!
Homosexuality has nothing to do with the Church's problem. Pedophilia is the name for sexual abuse of children. Statistics show that the rate of pedophilia among homosexuals is no higher than their percentage of the population. Because of their majority, the vast majority of pedophiles are heterosexuals. The issue of the Catholic Church is not that problems occured, because problems happen in every walk of life. It is how they failed the children by not dealing appropriately with them.
Pedophilia is no more homosexual than rape is heterosexual. Crimes of this nature are devastating to the victims and their families, and to keep trying to minimalize it is a huge mistake by the Catholic Church. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, and they should be openly and humbly correcting their course and holding the offenders responsible.
Darren in Fairbanks, Alaska
This people(priests) should stop blaming homosexuality. I do not support it but let them face their own challenges and carry their own crosses, shame on them (priests). I f we all had excuses like they are trying to make, we couldn't be getting in trouble.
I am a product of the Catholic School system, so I am not an outsider critiquing this horrible problem. The Church's assertion that pedophelia equals homosexuality is ludicrous, at least. It reminds me of the old Shakespeare addage,(and I'm paraphrasing) "Me thinks he protests too much." They are pointing a finger at an easy target for those who follow blindly, or those too ignorant to know better. They need to make a clean sweep of those too interested in protecting the Church, rather than their young, vulnerable parishioners. They need to admit it, get it done, and go on. The sooner, the better. Pedophile priests ought to be jailed, not transferred to another, unsuspecting diocese.
How ludicrous! The church continues to amplify it's dislike for those who are gay by now trying to tie homosexuality to pedophilia. I'm sure that if the truth were to come out, the sexual abuse by priests is not discriminatory between girls and boys. They are just feeding the fire for even more hate against homosexuality and now justifies the hate against gays, in some peoples eyes, because it is sanctioned by the Catholic church. Just you watch!
Jack, would somebody please send the Vatican a dictionary. Homosexuals are attracted to men...........not children. But I have a feeling they know that....................they are just more concerned about the wealth and power of the Catholic Church!
the catholic church has got to be the most disfunctional, amoral, disturbing organization ever invented by mankind (yes, i said mankind). And i should know... i was raised catholic, went to catholic school (surrounded by a bunch of crazy nuns and weird priests) and then "officially" left the church as soon as i was of an age to appreciate just how twisted that whole bunch were.
As a student at a famous Catholic University, I lived in a dorm that had several floors of seminarians. One floor housed an order notoriously gay. Whether or not the pedophiles are gay, there is a problem with homosexuality among priests.
Shame on the Vatican for blaming homosexuals as the root for child molestations. The Catholic church has a long history of denouncing homosexuals, this is just another example of the lying, corrupt, old world religion that is fastly becoming less respected. Florida.
As a Social Worker, a gay man and a Catholic I am stunned by this statement. Sexual abuse, rape... whatever you label it is about power and control, not sex, nor does it have anything to do with celibacy. Hence homosexuality has nothing to do with the sexual abuse of children in the Catholic church. If the church reviewed the academic literature they will find that homosexuality is not a factor in whether one sexually abuses a child. The reason these children were abused was becuase these priests were psychologically ill... The reason these children were continously abused by these very priests is because the Catholic church ALLOWED IT!!!! In the end the first perpetrator was the priest, the second perpetrator was Holy Mother Church.
No I don't think it is related to homosexuality and they are just using it as an excuse to cover up like they have for many many years. The only question now is how many years? The pope is responsible for so many things in modern history such as our calender. Does this means our concept of time is wrong and the old school Greek Christian orthodox were right all this time? I'm so confused and I'm sick of the sick Catholics getting away with maybe the biggest conspiracy ever!
It is alright to be a homosexual in the church, and they are forbidden to marry same sex persons outside of the church. Celibacy definitely has something to do with abusing both males and females. I was myself approached by a jesuite father as a teenager during a retreat. I also was asked very embarrassing questions in confession. Celebacy is a glorified state of mind which allows priests to transgress while for us thinking sex is considered a sin.
no way. the church is trying to put the blame on someone else. as they've been brain washing us for centuries. homosexuals have suffer enough discrimination. these sick & filthy rich old men in church also abuse of lots of girls & women. is not only little boys but anybody these church waste can convince to molest & abuse.
As a recovering Catholic who left the church when I was 26 and am now an ordained clergywoman in a denomination which believes homosexuality is not a sin I abhor the posturing of the former Pope's Rottweiler Ratzinger who now occupies the papacy.
Once again we have Rome weaseling out of its responsibility to care for the sheep of its fold. The supposed shepherds, the priests who are the wolves in sheep's clothing, cannot keep their vows because of their predatory behavior which has nothing to do with homosexuality.
Today the pope gave homage a to a group they once condemned, the Beatles. Ringo responded "The pope has much more serious business to attend to." Amen.
What could homosexuality possibly have to do with the institutional policy of the Church of Rome to ignore the unspeakable crime of child rape.
The Vatican should be placed on a list of State Sponsors of Child Sex Abuse; it has abused its nation state to give cover to criminals and has employed diplomatic immunity to keep evidence from the reach of law enforcement authorities.
The way to fix this sexual obscenity is to do what I think Paul said in the Holy Bible which was to take care of your own family before you can be trusted to take care of God's family. If you can't take care of your own family you surly can't take care of God's children! I do not know how the catholic church came up with their priest's being celibate would be better teachers of the word of God! My baptist preacher has a normal family and he preached the word of God very well every Sunday!
I think homosexuality is a huge part of the abuse in the catholic church. In the 1970s, especially in America, when catholic parents questioned the sexuality of their sons, they pushed them into the seminary. Almost two thirds of men in the seminary back then were gay... later to become leaders of parishs and order around alter boys... homosexuality definitely plays a role... but priests have too much authority in there parish today... I was raised catholic... other than giving a homily... I never needed a priest to help me with my relationship with God nor would I leave one alone with my kid...
As a sex abuse survivor and the president of non-profit organization that is dedicated to prevent child abuse I am outraged by the lack of accountability of the Catholic Church. To blame the issue on Homosexuality is just another attempt to sweep the issue under the rug. Until the Church adapts a zero tolerance policy on sex abuse and puts the needs of their congregation above the priests no progress will be made.
As a God fearing person it saddens me to hear about the behavior of these so-called priest. This behavior is not link to homosexuality no more than aids in link to gays. These men are not men of faith they are flat out criminals and should be thrown in prision where they will need some faith once the words get out who and what they are. Can you say its your turn!!!!!!!
Homosexuality has nothing to do with priests abusing children throughout the years. The really rotten thing is that the church would cover these incidents up. Pass the offender on to another unsuspecting parish. I am so angry. Always the policy should have been "call police" immediately no matter who it is. The church has a lot of explaining to do and I am sure that just explaining is NOT going to be enough anymore. I am a lifelong Catholic and my heart just breaks for these children. You cannot change the horrors that have happened to these victims but I hope that the Pope and the Vatican gets what is coming to them. Punishment of some kind.
i am a hispanic raised in the catholic faith. Homosexuals are not to blame for this. These deviates under the guise of christianity prey on the innocent and weak and know they are protected by those in power.
Blaming homosexuals is now being used as the reason for all these bad things happening. Let's just say it for what it is. Those who we trusted to take care of our soul has now sown distrust, anger and horror. Can the Pope wash his hands from what he has ignored for so long?
The Prices of the Catholic Church, the Cardinals, want to float this homosexuality defense to protect their primary recruiting tool for priest pedophiles, availability to children. There a re too few priest to go around now, if they eliminated the pedophiles, the place would shut down!
The churches miscalculation is that the world is not as fearful homosexuals anymore and we know what a pedophile is, this tactic won't work.
As a mother and a lesbian, raised Catholic, it continues to astound me the position the Vatican continues to take to justify its aberrant behavior. My parents' church will never be my church. If they were alive, both my mom and dad would be hurt beyond words to hear my simple ethical lifestyle being compared to pedophilia.
The Catholic Church thinks that homosexuality is the cause for the abuse of children (which is ridiculous) and they say that homosexuality is a sin punishable by damnation. With that logic, how do they explain the protection of these abusive priests? It would appear that they are protecting the evil/damned and they are allowing them to continue to be the voice and face of the Catholic Church.
Practicing Catholics might want to consider exploring other denominations. The Catholic Church is so arrogant that the only way that they will change is by losing market share.
Jack sexual abuse of children in the Catholic Church is not related to homosexuality. Most psychology experts have this same opinion despite lack of reasearch in this area.
Sorry this is just another audacious horrible excuse that the Vatican is using. What happened to honesty?? These are susposed to be men who follow and teach the word of God!! They are not nuturing, loving, and caring for all our children!! How dare them!
Keep the news media heat on. This must stop!!!
Sexual abuse of children by the Roman Catholic clergy is directly related to the belief that the pope is "infallible", that the pope and his minions are the vicars of Jesus Christ, and that being celibate is somehow a normal condition for people who want to serve the Lord. No the pope isn't infallible, only the Lord has this status. Jesus doesn't need any vicars, we can go to Him directly. People who want to serve the Lord don't need to be celibate unless that's their personal choice. Cardinal Ratzinger is turning out to be just the kind of pope that should have been expected: Out of date, out of touch, and a product of the centuries-old secret culture. He needs to take responsibility for this mess and resign.
I'm a Psychiatric RN who has worked with abused adol/children for the past 20 years. Sex offenders are 'SEX OFFENDERS' who should have to register as such. Even Father 'Touch me' should be outed so the public knows where the offenders live/work. Religion should not be cover for predators or lawbreakers. If so then why not make up one to justify any crime? Oh yea..Homosexuality & Pedophilia are very different...See Google ...LOL
Only ignorance can account for equating pedophilia with homosexuality.
Homosexuality is not deviant behavior. The Catholic Church should consider gaining some knowledge.
I literally had to sit down when I heard what Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone is stating. I am not a Catholic, but trust me if I were I would immediately convert after hearing this ridiculous claim. Again, the Vatican is not taking responsibility for the crimes that have been committed. And the thought, no let me restate that.... the sheer insanity that somehow homosexuality and pedophilia are one and the same...shame on ANYONE that can even believe this is true.
I see these ads urging people to return to the Catholic church and I think to myself, sure...if they clean house in the Vatican you may have a chance to reclaim those you've lost.
Sexual abuse is absolutely not connected to homosexuality but I also do not believe it is connected to celibacy either. I know people who are gay who would never do such a thing I also know celibate priests who would never do that. I do not think you can connect it to anything in particular except maybe mental disease, just like you can not connect rape to one particular thing. It is a combination of factors like how you were raised, mental illness and personal choice. What I do not understand is why would the church have the ability to cover these things up do they not have the obligation to report these incidents to the police? The priests who are accused of pedophilia and abuse should not just be removed from the priesthood but should be put in jail and maybe an insane asylum. As a devout Christian it hurts to hear these stories. If the Catholic Church truly cared about its image it should report these cases to the police immediately so that this abuse would not happen.
it's linked to negligence.
as a protestant, i hesitated for years to comment on the actions of the Catholic Church.
but during the closing days of the health care debate i realized the Catholic Church no qualms about commenting about my government.
the Church must take action, if it wishes to remain relevant.
what about "casting stones?"
Pedophilia is a sexually deviant behaviour it has nothing to do with attraction and love making. This is strictly about control and violence.
Homosexuality is a normal facet of human sexuality...
The Vatican continues to protect the Church at all cost, regardless of how many children are destroyed... This is a disgrace and totally unacceptable.
When will the Vatican's hypocrisy end? Their lack of repentance is offending. Using homosexuality as a scapegoat shows how out of touch this corrupt institution is. I for one don't need a 3rd party such as the Catholic chuch and their senile cult leader to stand between the Lord and myself. I'll keep my money and give it to charities that spread the true message of love and acceptance of all the Lord's children and not an organization that deflects blame and hords money.
Child sexual abuse it is NOT associated to homosexuality or heterosexuality…it is simple “Pedophilia” and it is not to be acceptable, defended or ignored by our society; including the government or any church.
Jack, when we shield or help criminals, we break the law. That's rebellion against the authority of the land. Romans 13 clearly states "he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted." When the church shields their criminal priests, they are breaking the law and when they break the law – the bible says they you are also rebelling against God.
Church rules does not trump the law of God, nor should they trump the law of the country. They are wrong, you know it, I know it, God knows it and God's word ALREADY declared that they are wrong!
Homosexuality is irrelevant and insulting – because they are basically declaring that if you are homosexual, you will have sex with kids. There is NO excuse for these priest behavior and the churches that shield people who harm kids are aiding and abetting criminals and should be charged as well. Yes Jack, bring these churched up on criminal charges.
The Vatican is full of crap. They need to start telling the truth. Sexual abuse is not tied to homosexuality and never has been. These priests are pedophiles, plain and simple. It's time the Vatican cut with the lies.
It is interesting that the chruch should use homosexuality as fall back reasoning,for their perversion.
It leaves one scratching the head, that this so called "sin" is now an excuse for the commission of another.
It is sinking pretty low, to have to use the homosexuality card, as justification for their pedophilia when they have preached that homosexuality is a perversion.
They cannot face the truth, this is pedophile behavior and should be punished by the law of the land, it has nothing to do with homosexuality. The priests should have been allowed to be married instead of "honoring God" with celibicy. I do not propose to speak for God, but it makes sense to think that He is not at all honored by the horrible pain this behavior has caused, nor would one think He is honored by this continuous dismissal of the facts without true remorse by the church..
No, of course not. The Catholic Church is in panic mode, scrambling to cover the Pope's lack of decency, now and in the past. How any anyone in their right mind attend that church or support it financially? Child abuse is child abuse, pure and simple. The Catholic orgainization is twisted, sick, and disgusting.
The deceptive behaviors of the Church is what's making it easy for the priest to get away with molestation. If the Catholic Church had any plans of stopping this behavior, they would start by exposing the offender's and stop hiding them. The gay community has a tradition of coming out of the closet and confronting you secrets in a open and honest manor.
The burdon of proof is on those who make the claim that the sexual abuse of children is tied to homosexuality. No real proof has ever been shown. Pedophelia really has nothing to do with homosexuality or heterosexuality. It has to do with being attracted to children. Being attracted to children has nothing to do with homosexuality or heterosexuality. The Catholic Church sex scandals is just another example of anti-bay bigots trying to antagonize homosexuals.
What could homosexuality have to do with the institutional policy of the Church of Rome to condone the crime of child rape.
Homosexuality and pedophilia are two separate issues and not related. First, pedophilia is a mental illness. Second, the sex abuse in the Church has a lot to do with the celibacy requirement on the priesthood. You will always have mentally ill people(pedophiles) in any organization with access to children, but the celibacy rule only exacerbates the problem. Human beings, in order to be mentally healthy require intimate and sexual relationships. It's harmful for the person and society in general to supress those urges we are all born with.
I believe that all the priests should be allowed to marry so that they will learn how to love and to be loved. They teach that child sex abuse is sin but they are the one who violate God's law. Hopocrite goes to hell and that's their final destination. If they want to be saved, they ask forgiveness and repent.
Of course it isn't Jack. These are international, persistently protected crimes. It is not enough for the Pope to just retire; neither he nor any priest is above the law..but because the Vatican is a state unto itself, it has eluded prosecution for these crimes. "Interpol or an Italian equivalent of FBI should be at the helm of an investigation that encompasses the insidious international connection of these crimes from Ireland to the United States, and prosecute the Pope, the Catholic church and every individual responsible.
The United Nations, presidents and officials worldwide should be publicly condemning these acts in the same manner of any other form of terrorism. Acts of terror are not restricted to suicide bombers. The sexual violation 'children' for decades amounts not only to terrorism to the child and the family-but is arguably in fact 'organized crime' due to decades of well documented collusion, coercion and systematic concealment.
The Church is losing every day more of its marbles!! An Institution that does not evolve or refuse to evolve actually opens up its door to more abuses and more incoherent internal views !
The Church has to stop treating followers as idiots and has simply offer lately some recognition of some sort of forgiveness in regards to the Beatles...what is next to avoid facing the abuses! It is as if the Church does no longer know where to look to avoid being accountable to its own actions and inactions. Last night, I saw a documentary about a priest who wrote how to attract boys by chosing them if they are poor and do not have a father and so on..these are not priests (not all priests); they are predators. The Church is responsible for allowing priests to move from one country to the next where they knew they abuse children and they were not asked to face justice. Do you know what is also most insulting to people's intelligence is that these priests who abuse their power of authority are actually paid by followers contributions : I mean have you ever seen a poor priest!
how pitiful that the higher ups have to pick on homosexuality as the culpits in the abuse of children and the catholic church. these priests involved are degenerates whether hetrosexual or homosexual. unfortuately we live in a world that has many sick people and we have to endure all kinds. i'm a mother of 2 wonderful grown children and love all kinds of people, but unfortunately, there are sick people and we have to do our best to try and protect our loved ones as best as we can. how dare the church to pick on something or someone that don't agree with all of the laws that the church makes. by the way, I 'm a catholic and I love my church.
The Catholic Church’s current crisis is not caused by homosexuality. Rather, it is caused by the Catholic Church’s failed experiment in sexual suppression called celibacy. The sooner the church rids itself of its celibacy requirement for priests the better for all parishioners. And while it’s at it, why not also get rid of the notion that only males can lead the flock. What a strange sense of God’s creation the church has!
Being Catholic I typically get defensive when people ridicule my faith. I do try to point out that this problem is not just the Catholic Church. We can find these unfortunate cases in practically all religions. I see this more as a problem of human imperfection. Each case is different. Some could be homosexuality and some pedophilia. I think the Catholic Church has a larger challenge because of clerical celibacy contests human nature. Not to mention the Church's size and attempts to cover up its mistakes, is a target for criticism. Ultimately I can just hope justice will come to those violators and transparency can instill trust back in not just the Catholic Church but all religions. May God be merciful and just.
I was born into a devout Catholic family...baptized, first communion, confirmation, the works. I went to Catholic school for 13 yrs, inc. kindergarten. The Church had me. My faith in the tenants of the Church began to wane when they told me my Grandmother wldn't go to heaven 'cuz she wasn't Catholic. Then the sex abuse scandals broke and my faith in the Church was shaken. Now the Pope is trying to excuse his culpability in the cover-up of the priest, in my city, who assaulted children who I may have tutored, by having his toadie blame these atrocities on the homosexual community. This is unconscientionable. I'm finished making excuses for the Catholic Church, in my head and in my community. I"m done...
It is clear the institution of "Catholic Celibacy" most definitely attracts men who have trouble with their sexual preference of “Homosexuality” and “Pedophilia”. It is clear God is punishing the Catholic Church for putting the reputation of the Church before children and the moral cleanness of the Congregations. They are reaping what they have sown. It’s a “Day of Reckoning” that is long over due!
The Church is doing a lot of good that is being overshadowed by all the publicity that is being given to this topic! WE (I am a lay Catholic) have apologized many times over the years! It is time to remember the words of the Lord to those who would have stoned the sinful woman in the Gospel, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." Let's get on with the work of the Lord! Yes, people have been hurt. I don't condone what has been done. But this constant haranguing about it is now hurting another generation! And we are forgetting the primary command of charity! None of us are without sin! I don't think anyone should be throwing stones!
There is a culture of pedophilies within the Church and the Vatican has sactioned these sins by ignoring them.
I can only think that if the child and priest are same sex then yes, it is homosexual but either way, the sex of the offender and victim is neither the problem nor the issue.
It is the authority figure forcing themself on another. This is called rape.
It is an adult having sex with a child. This is statutory rape.
Forgive my ignorance, but celibacy was a vow taken by individuals in an attempt to bring themselves closer to God. This is not what happens when people go off and have sex with those coming to them for spiritual care.
I'm not against a priest having an adult relationship, just make sure the relationship is beetween adults. The church has no place in legal proceedings and cannot provide exemptions in ANY such investigations. If anything, the church should be pushing the police for the truth beyond a doubt and the priests be suspended from active roles in any functions until the individual is cleared or not. If found guilty the priest should be pointedly seperated from the church body and handed over to local authorities, not hidden or transferred away.
Forgivness is the way of the church, but if a dog bites you, you don't forgive it and then wave your hand in it's face.
No,Homosexuality is not to blame for what's going on in the catholic church their trying to redirect the real issue.(It's the church).
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