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April 2nd, 2010
05:00 PM ET

Trips to risqué nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers help GOP?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

It's been a bad week for the Republicans. Very bad.

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele
Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele

The party of family values and morality started the week addressing revelations of RNC-funded trips to a risqué Hollywood nightclub that features bondage... and finished it off with mailers that mistakenly directed party members to a phone sex hotline.

At a time when Republicans could be capitalizing on dissatisfaction with the Democratic agenda in Washington, particularly health care reform... they're stuck talking about bondage and phone sex.

The RNC says chairman Michael Steele is ordering "substantive changes" to their accounting procedures. This comes after reports the RNC reimbursed a Republican donor almost $2,000 for a night out on the town in Los Angeles.

The evening included a trip to a club where topless dancers mimic sex and bondage acts. Is bondage a family value? Just asking.

It gets better. The RNC unintentionally sent a phone sex number on a fund-raising letter to potential donors. People who tried calling the number were offered "live, one-on-one talk with a nasty girl" for $3 a minute.

These PR nightmares are hurting the party in one of the worst ways possible, financially. The GOP needs to raise a lot of money for the upcoming midterm elections.

But one top social conservative leader... the president of the family research council... is calling on members to stop giving money to the national Republican Party. He says these incidents show the party is "completely tone-deaf" to the values and concerns of party members.

Here’s my question to you: How much do trips to risqué nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers help the Republican Party?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Paul writes:
It's the hypocrisy of it all, Jack. Plain and simple. It's one thing to have an affair; it's another to tell everyone you're a "Promise Keeper" who cares only about family values… and then sneak around tapping on bathroom floors or hiking in Argentina.

Dave in Woodbury, Connecticut writes:
I had always hoped that my party would loosen up a bit. But phone sex, risqué clubs and bondage is a lot more than what I had expected.

Brian in Boise, Idaho writes:
Jack, At least it's better than getting busted exchanging homosexual text messages with underage boys or buying meth from gay prostitutes. In fact, over the past ten years, strip clubs and phone sex hotlines are some of the most promising signs I've seen of the Republican Party moving in the right direction.

Mike in California writes:
Family values and conservatism… kind of like Palin's then 16-year-old daughter getting pregnant? How's that "abstinency thingie working for ya?" Really, if the Republicans would just drop the "holier than thou" moniker they like to brandish and just admit they are ordinary, mistake-prone people like everyone else, they might actually be liked more.

Drew writes:
How can Republicans be intellectually honest and claim it's bad for gay Americans to want to settle down and get married, then turn around and get caught engaging in heterosexual licentiousness? Makes you wonder about the moral standards of the self-proclaimed party of "Family Values."

Greg writes:
Jack, The answer is so obvious: The Republicans are going to bondage clubs because they don't feel like they got their butts whipped hard enough in the last election!


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soundoff (239 Responses)
  1. Olga O. Pina

    Are the Republicans going to pay dearly for this Karma nightmare?

    You Bet'cha!

    Olga
    Austin, Texas

    April 2, 2010 at 12:51 pm |
  2. frank Valparaiso Indiana

    Look at McCain's eyes light up when Palin shows up in leather and boots. Gets the old moneyed base going. Now they have healthcare, and can get their heart taken care of when it goes into arrest, its a win win.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:53 pm |
  3. Justin

    I'm not exactly sure how party-financed trips to a bondage club might help them, Jack - For me, it simply helps to confirm my assessment of the Republican Party as a bunch of hypocritical, deviant lunatics. How stories like this can continue to pop up while the party still carries the banner of "family values" is beyond me. For those who blustered about Clinton and Edwards and still mention Gary Hart on the talking heads' shows, they might want to take a look at the glass walls that surround them before they pick up any more stones.

    Justin
    Sacramento, CA

    April 2, 2010 at 12:57 pm |
  4. Patrick from Florida

    Florida's GOP is also imploding with "secret provisions" in their contracts.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:57 pm |
  5. Jim El Paso Tx

    It doesn't do much for them but it sure tickles me. They are so "righteous" spewing their hate an crap but when they are not in the limelight they scuzzers! Now we know where they get their "cheating" lifestyles:)

    April 2, 2010 at 12:58 pm |
  6. Tom in Desoto, Tx

    It will be fine, as long as they bring their bibles to the strip clubs, but they must give more to the church than the "performers". As for the sex hotline numbers, how much in kickbacks will republicans receive?

    April 2, 2010 at 1:00 pm |
  7. Eugene Northern Cal

    Jack, those trips to nightclubs don't help the republican party but I could sure go for a lap dance right about now. Where do I register?

    April 2, 2010 at 1:02 pm |
  8. Gerry Erman

    If nothing else it confirms that the "visitor" is straight. In this day and age you never know. But they should at least use their own money.

    Gerry
    Ash Fork, Az.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:04 pm |
  9. Doug - Dallas

    Sometimes your questions surprise me Jack because you know the answer is so obvious! It's probably safe to say they don't help at all, especially in today's political climate. The Republicans are out of touch with mainstream Americans and their RNC expenses show it. Why wasn't the person who approved the expenses from the strip club fired and when are the Republicans going to finally realize that Michael Steele is a poor choice to lead the RNC? He is going to cost them elections in November.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:04 pm |
  10. MSierra, SF

    Hyprocisy doesn;'t help the GOP

    The 'Family Values' Party includes Sen John Ensign and his adultery and bribery scandals

    the 'Family Values' GOP includes Sen David Vitter and his hooker girl friends and diapers

    The 'Family Values' GOP includes Gov Mark Sanford and his Argentine 'soul mate'

    NONE have resigned !!
    For the Democrats, John Edwards is a pariah, but Nude Gingrich is a DEAD BEAT DAD who ABANDONED his children and remains a Republican 'Leader'

    Grand Old Sex PArty

    April 2, 2010 at 1:07 pm |
  11. Hugo Kijne

    Unless they start distancing themselves forcefully from the Tea Party, the Republican Party of the future will eventually consist of white trash plus Michael Steele, so those nightclubs with lesbian bondage shows and sex hotline numbers might actually help. Of course it will also be a declining minority party, soon to be replaced by a more viable centrist party. It will be a pleasure to see it fall apart.

    Hoboken, NJ

    April 2, 2010 at 1:12 pm |
  12. Toni

    I just love it, Jack.....Republican Party worse enemies is themselves. They think they are so high and mighty but really they are no better then anyone else. Democrates can just sit back and let them distroy themselves.

    Toni
    South Charleston, WV

    April 2, 2010 at 1:14 pm |
  13. Edwin A Hoffman

    Cedar City Utah

    The people to do this actions, or create these faulty documents are the same types that become or representatives in government. As such they are a very poor advertisement for any government run operation.

    The GOP is throwing away a god-given chance to take back the house and senate by these stupid actions...

    April 2, 2010 at 1:15 pm |
  14. Ray

    There is no hope for them as far as I am concerned. Their "Holyer than Thou" self serving sanctimoneous drivel has long ago worn thin with me. This event and things like it just reinforce that they are exactly what I think ALL politicos are....frauds!!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 1:27 pm |
  15. Darwin B Phillips

    I'm thinking is it even possible for republicans to avoid trips to risqué nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers ??? if shooting oneself in the foot was currency, they wouldn't be concerned about the cost of healthcare !!!

    South of Boston

    April 2, 2010 at 1:27 pm |
  16. David

    What is worse Jack, going to a risque nightclub taxes or forgetting to report income (Rangel and half the current cabinet) or buying votes with the US taxpayer's money (Polosi, Reed)?
    BOTH parties have forgotten who the work for and should pay the price in November.
    Dave,
    Laguna Niguel CA

    April 2, 2010 at 1:27 pm |
  17. jenny

    Well Jack, I guess that depends on your definition of just who/what makes up the GOP. If you mean those people who favor smaller, smarter more efficient governing with less Big Borther interferring well No. If you define the GOP as a bunch of uber conservative Bible thrumping, Baptists then yes.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:37 pm |
  18. Michael Alexandria, VA

    The first is how young Republicans roll and the second is a typo. Neither helps the GOP earn the trust of its social conservative base or its donors – and its continued policy on defense means it will keep the hard core libertarians away. Live by depending on young Republican tactics, die by depending on young Republican tactics.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:46 pm |
  19. Bob Louisville

    It may have a positive effect.

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    The party needs to shed its image of being made up exclusively of a bunch of self-proclaimed holier than thou people.

    Bob
    Louisville, Ky

    April 2, 2010 at 1:52 pm |
  20. Jim Z..Ft. Worth...Texas

    A whole helluva a lot as they slip beneath the covers of their imaginations to 'call' on the support of those who are shallow enough and lack the G2 to envision their ridiculous ploys...silly republican race....

    April 2, 2010 at 1:53 pm |
  21. Kevin in Dallas

    It will do them a lot of good in the long run. The Republican party needs to get some true conservatives running the party. If your household grosses over a quarter million dollars a year then your economic situation puts you in a position to where you no longer have the perspective required to be a true conservative.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:05 pm |
  22. pat in michigan

    well, at least the Republicans know who accepts their devient behavior as normal,Whores and prostitutes with family values.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:10 pm |
  23. Donna Colorado Springs,Co

    The country is seeing the Republican party for what it has really become since the election. This latest scandal is just another example of Republican hypocrisy while still touting their conservative family values message!

    April 2, 2010 at 2:12 pm |
  24. Mountain Lady from PA

    Doesn't help, but certainly shows their true colors!

    April 2, 2010 at 2:18 pm |
  25. John from Alabama

    Jack: It will not help the Republican Party, unless they have abandoned their conservative base. Not only will the conservatives be leaving , but the moderate Republicans will not be happy. This new arm of the sexy and risque Republicans will make the the party smaller, but then who needs those square conservatives and moderates.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:19 pm |
  26. Dave, Brooklyn, NY

    The Republican party (which I USED to belong to) has gotten so far away from it’s core values and principles that it doesn’t seem to matter what it does. The lunatics such as the tea partiers and neo con artists who are thrilled to death with how debased the party has become seem to have no grasp of reality. They worshiped the ground Bush walked on and still think he saved us from the ruination of the Clinton years. If they welcome militants who want to overthrow the US Government, worship idiots like Glen Beck and Ann Coulter, and actually believe Obama isn’t a US citizen, there is nothing beyond the pale for these demented individuals. They can not see the Bush created disaster for what it is and believe Obama has destroyed all of Bushs’ good deeds. Is there any way off of this planet?

    April 2, 2010 at 2:21 pm |
  27. Doris Lauter

    It helps them stay horny while going broke.....

    Doris
    Ojai, California

    April 2, 2010 at 2:36 pm |
  28. Amber - Austin, TX

    Simple Jack – it helps them right into blatent hypocrisy. Not that they needed any help mind you!

    April 2, 2010 at 2:39 pm |
  29. Loren

    Not at all, but it will be forgotten soon enough. Wherever there are people with power, reports of misbehaviour will soon surface. Theses episodes reflect poorly not on the party, but on the individuals involved, as they should.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:40 pm |
  30. JENNA

    How much do trips to risqué nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers help the Republican Party?

    Don't you mean help the Democratic Party?

    Once again the party of Moral Family Values shows the nation it's TRUE Colors yet again.

    Republican Sen. Ensign and Sen, Vitter are still in office after thier affairs/hookers. Republican Gov Mark Sanford is still in office after he left his state without leadership for close to a week, left the country to see his MARRIED mistress. C Street Scandal. Tea Party Movement. Birthers, Deathers, Tenthers, Christian Malitia..

    The Republican Party is Imploding.

    Jenna
    Roseville CA

    April 2, 2010 at 2:41 pm |
  31. Ben from Boston

    Jack,

    I think that maybe only a small fraction of Republican Party members were involved, just as there was only a small fraction of Democratic House members that came before the Ethics Committee this year. Unless one of these turkeys wants me to vote for them, I don't much care - its sort of like Senator Obama sitting in Reverand Wright's church all those months. I'd rather it didn't happen, but its small ball and shouldn't be held against anyone that wasn't involved. If my tax money was paying for it, its another matter. Then I'd want the bums sent to jail.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:44 pm |
  32. Al, Lawrence KS

    I could be convinced to switch my party affiliation. The Strip Club Party?...has a nice ring to it. Where do I sign up?

    April 2, 2010 at 2:46 pm |
  33. Greg in Cabot, AR

    With all the other previous Republican scandals involving sex, it proves they are consistent.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:47 pm |
  34. Maria

    I think the GOP will just continue to shoot theselves in the foot, or elsewhere, and will damage themselves as a party beyond repair. They've been on the edge since the Bush Dynasty. How stupid can you get going to nightclubs and then submitting for expenses?

    Maria

    Brunswick,MD

    April 2, 2010 at 2:53 pm |
  35. Greg McCarthy

    Jack,I think you have the 2 parties mixed up.Your question should read "How much do trips to risque nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers by the Republican party help the DEMOCRATIC party?"But your original question is so funny ,I will still be laughing when your show airs!HA HA HEE HEE

    April 2, 2010 at 2:57 pm |
  36. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    It shows the American people that they really are not the party of NO but the party of FUN. Thus, it helps them a great deal in the eyes of the strip clubs to believe that if the Republicans get control of the Congress then their might be some new laws to exploit this as a job growth opportunity.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:01 pm |
  37. Paul Austin, Texas

    A big No Jack. Yet we all must remember the Republicans can do wrong and then say oh I am so sorry for what I did followed by aligator tears and deaf ears for calls of resignation to the office they hold. You see the Republicans should call themselfs the do as I say not as I do party.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:01 pm |
  38. frankie

    Maybe because the Republicans know that the world is going to end, some of them think they might as well do whatever they want........

    April 2, 2010 at 3:03 pm |
  39. DON IN WESTPORT, MASS.

    Im sure it helps the Republicans party very hard with great pleasure.
    I know it makes for a hell of a party for me.
    I just hope the taxpayer are not paying for thier parties.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:03 pm |
  40. Tia Dallas

    Gee I thought the GOP were above this kinda of dealings, weren't they? They have screamed and hollered about how good Christians they are but yet they meet at a strip club? Do not tell me you are a good Christian and tell me I am not when you have egg on your face.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:07 pm |
  41. Greg McCarthy

    Jack,
    The answer is sooo obvious.The Republicans are going to bondage clubs because they don't feel like they got their asses whipped hard enough in the last election!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 3:10 pm |
  42. Terry in Hanover County

    It proves that the RNC can laugh at themselves - just like the rest of us are doing.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:10 pm |
  43. southerncousin

    Pretty bad when Republicans start acting like the hypocritical liberal left (Democrats), which by the way is why the were voted out of office in 2006.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:12 pm |
  44. Bizz Quarryville, Pennsylvania

    When a scandal comes out about attending nightclubs with poles that have strippers wrapped around them and mailers with sex hotline numbers, it can only hurt a party which advertises itself as the party of the religious right. In other words, don't throw stones when you live in a glass house. Scandals like this does not surprise me from either party. Both parties are full of hypocrites. What surprises me is why they do such stupid things in the first place.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:14 pm |
  45. Ken in Mt

    They help about as much ( maby less) than a lead baloon. The republicans are the party of the holier than God ( Religous Right)and have been since Regan. The strippers have always been there, just the mask has slipped. Most of us knew the GOP were a bunch of phonies anyway.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:21 pm |
  46. Jerry Johns Creek, GA

    They help the Republicans as much as they help the Democrats but maybe not as much as the Tea Party goers since they provide their own entertainment.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:23 pm |
  47. Tom, Avon, Me, The Heart of Democracy

    Republican Senator David Vitter was a regular of the DC Madam's. Republican Governor John Sanford made the Appalachian Trail a punch line. Republican Representative Mark Foley was a pedophile assigned to supervise the Congressional pages. Republican Senator John Ensign shtupped his best friend's wife, bribed the cuckolded husband, and fired his lover's kid when she stopped sleeping with him. Visiting a strip club on Republican Party funds is small potatoes.

    If Republicans sucker another dime out of the Family Values crowd, there's your proof about a fool and his money.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:30 pm |
  48. Cheryl in Bluffton, SC

    It certainly helps cement their image as hypocrites on two levels: They preach morality to everyone except themselves, and frankly, being lectured on fiscal responsibility by the GOP is like putting Jesse James in charge of a couples' retreat.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:31 pm |
  49. george coleman

    I hope to think that this is the most outrageous and dastardly these guys have done. Wouldn't it be great if these were really the "bad guys"? Bull Crap. Who give a flip. This is a very, very minor thing in comparison with what goes on now and has in the past and i'm sure will continue in the future with Congress. Get real.

    George from Kentucky

    April 2, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
  50. Cindi

    KC, Mo
    Help them? Exposes them as the hypocrites they are, all the while they are forcing their "Family Values" down our throat, they take their "Young Eagles" on a trip in Voyeurism or was it to just show them the darker side they need to fight against (or not get caught doing)? Add that to the "C" Street mentality of "you're special" and the "rules do not apply to you" (so affairs are okay). It s time the American people realize the Reps are not "special" nor do they deserve to be put back in charge of anything. They need time on the outside to be rehabilitated!

    April 2, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
  51. brojake

    help them to do what? spend more then they have.................great job mr steel. from culver city ca.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:33 pm |
  52. Jane (Minnesota)

    Jack, It just confirms they are the Hypocrites we already knew they are.

    Maybe they would have more credibility with people if they dropped their "Holier than Thou" attiudes and admit they are no better than the rest of us.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:35 pm |
  53. Steve, NY

    What really helps is CNN rubbing it in. Keep on rubbing Jack. Good work.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:36 pm |
  54. Jurgen R. Brul

    Hello Jack Cafferty and CNN friends,

    The trips to risqué nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers only helps the Republican Party, when the Republicans really stand up for the Health of All Prostitutes and the Health of Their Costumers! Otherwise these trips are not helping the Republican Party and All the American people!

    Greetings,
    Jurgen R. Brul

    April 2, 2010 at 3:40 pm |
  55. Susan from Birmingham, Al.

    It doesn't help the party but I think it doesn't hurt either. Americans
    forgive and forget so easily nowdays it will be an afterthought by next
    week.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:49 pm |
  56. Janice from DE

    The Republican Party is on it's deathbed and Mr. Steele will go down in history as it's last Chairman. There first mistake was assuming Obama was going to choose Clinton as V.P so they put Palin on their ballot. Second was to feel they could counter the election of a black man by placing a black man in the office of Chairman. But, whoever is in charge of vetting these choices has effectively killed the Republican Party. Tea anyone?

    April 2, 2010 at 3:55 pm |
  57. Bernie of Lowell, MA

    They've got to do something, Jack, especially because they've done absolutely nothing since Barack Obama became President.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:55 pm |
  58. k

    the party who can only obstruct, stir up fear, encourage crowds bent on derailing health care reform has hit a new low that will only continue to foster the republican parties own self destruction.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:56 pm |
  59. AspenFreePress

    No great shakes either way, hurting or helping. Pun intended.
    Sterling Greenwood/Aspen

    April 2, 2010 at 3:58 pm |
  60. pat from Polson, MT

    I can't see it is going to help the Republican Party. It's the same ole, same ole. Once a politician gets to Washington for a first term, it only takes a year or so to get as corrupt as the "oldsters" Obama wants a change, but none of the people in Congress want it. They are afraid of change. The Republican Party wants things status quo. Whether it be in a risque nightclub or passing legislation that would help the people of this country. Like everyone else, I am really fed up with the party of "NO" and the rest of the cronies in Congress. I'd like to see something done before I die, but I don't think I will.

    Pat – Montana

    April 2, 2010 at 4:03 pm |
  61. Michael and Diane, Phoenix AZ

    Well as the line in Good Morning Vietnam says, "now there's a man in dire need of a B- -."

    April 2, 2010 at 4:03 pm |
  62. Sylvia from California

    Who cares? This is why this country is in such bad shape. The media and CNN in particular, think this type of news is news worthy....GET A LIFE!!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 4:09 pm |
  63. Bud Rupert

    Your sarcasm knows no bounds Jack.

    But I must say that all politicians are susceptible to this kind of behavior. It's just that this time the GOP got tagged.

    Stay tuned, it's just a matter of time before another one of these episodes hits the news

    April 2, 2010 at 4:13 pm |
  64. Danielle in San Diego Calif.

    I would say it makes them appear more human but Craig, Vitter, Ensign,Sanderford , and Foley already seem to have done that for them.Just one more example of GOP "family values".

    April 2, 2010 at 4:14 pm |
  65. Patty.D. Bristol, Pa.

    Dear Jack, LOL! That's a strange question. I thought the GOP was the 'Party of Values'. But look what has happened in the last few years. Vitter and Prostitutes, Ensign and the fling with a friends wife, Sandford and his lover, The C-Street scandal, the list goes on and on... So I guess you can say the trips to the strip club and the sex numbers are kind of tame. But either way, they make the GOP look like the 'Party of Hypocrites'.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:17 pm |
  66. Bill - upper New York state

    Jack, they are as much help to the GOP as a kick to the risque part of the anatomy. In addition to being the party of "NO", they are also the party of "yeah, babe, take it ALL off!"

    April 2, 2010 at 4:18 pm |
  67. Mark, Oklahoma City

    How long did it take you to come up with this "unbiased" question, Jack?

    April 2, 2010 at 4:18 pm |
  68. Mr. D

    Maybe heavy breathing will help them get back in the majority. Don't confuse this with heavy breathing from working hard.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:18 pm |
  69. Mark

    What are after calling everyone stupid on global warming no "drill baby drill" articles? Pro drilling now?

    Democrats had a bad year

    April 2, 2010 at 4:20 pm |
  70. Jim

    Jack,

    Obviously they're goofy mistakes that don't help at all. They further undermine the GOP's claim to being the party of family values, assuming any crumb of that claim still remains. Still, if we're honest, we're obliged to acknowledge that the GOP is no worse that the Dems in this regard, and obviously no better. The lesson is simple. If you look to a political party to set the example for morality and values, you're an idiot.

    Jim
    Reno, Nevada

    April 2, 2010 at 4:20 pm |
  71. katiec Pekin, IL

    The republican party is self destructing.
    They pretend to be holier than thou, while pushing hate, anger, fear, touting lies, distortions in the process of destroying our country and us.
    The latest just adds to their dishonor and hypocrasy. The American people are sick of their obstruction and refusal to join forces for the survival of our country.
    They, Jack, are on their way to becoming our country's most dangrous domestic terrorists.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:22 pm |
  72. Greg McCarthy

    Jack,
    Why is everyone blaming Pres. Obama for all of our current problems?Our problems did not start on Jan. 21 2009!The problem started when former Pres. George W. Bush deregulated the bank system so that he and all his millionaire/billionaire buddies could attempt trillionaire status!Pres. Obama is just trying to put his finger in the dam to prevent the flood from the drilling of the Republicans!

    April 2, 2010 at 4:23 pm |
  73. FRP

    I would certainly feel that Charlie Rangel and Tim Geithner's tax evasion, Barney Frank's role in Fannie and Freddie as well as Chris Dodd's involvement would be of more relevance to us than some sleezy strip joint trips.......don't you?

    April 2, 2010 at 4:27 pm |
  74. Craig in Houston

    Well Jack, obviously it doesn't help them. It exposes their "family-values" platform as the smoke screen it's always been. I have nothing against those kind of clubs. I don't even have a problem clients, donors etc. being entertained there. I only have a problem with these sanctimonious, judgmental hypocrites condemning others lifestyles as decadent while they indulge in similar activities. But, that's what the republican party has become. A hypocritical bunch of self-righteous demagogues with feet of clay.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:27 pm |
  75. Greg M. Largo,FL

    Jack,
    The answer is sooo obvious.The Republicans are going to bondage clubs because they don't feel like they got their asses whipped hard enough in the last election.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:27 pm |
  76. Debbie

    Can anyone say distraction? Trying to distract us from things that are of relevance, like the Democrats cramming their health care bill down our throats, isn't working and this little strip club story won't do it either. We don't really care. But nice try though.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:30 pm |
  77. Nancy in St. Louis

    The only help I see this offering the republican party is a reality check. The people got a front row view of republicans opposing health care reform. Apparently they felt confident in showing America that poor individuals can't have health care if they can't pay for it. They don't mention that those poor individuals still need to pay taxes so Congress members enjoy their health care benefits and wonderful salaries on the people's money. Now they have shown all their cards by paying for trips to risque nightclubs. The RNC has now shown what they think about and where their thoughts lead. I would like to think they would have had to look up a phone sex number, but apparently the number is readily available. This country has so many problems and more problems seem to surface everyday.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:30 pm |
  78. Terrence Cain

    Sounds like business as usual to me, Jack. The GOP is not a truly fiscally conservative party. They claim it, but never really do what they say. Just look at the problems they got us into with their big spending and not paying for it in the Bush administration with the war in Iraq and the medical prescription bill. Now they're in the sex business. Sounds like things are never going to change for the Gone Over to Porn party.

    Terrence Cain
    Big Spring, TX

    April 2, 2010 at 4:33 pm |
  79. Tom in Texas

    Fundraising just got more difficult for the GOP.On the upside, that phone number may be very useful to some .

    April 2, 2010 at 4:33 pm |
  80. Andrew

    I'm sure they are reciving more then enough from the Insurence companies. After all, as equel opertunity exploiters they have no problem with strippers

    April 2, 2010 at 4:34 pm |
  81. Greg in PA

    Jack, seriously that is your question, you give new meaning to the word rhetorical!

    April 2, 2010 at 4:35 pm |
  82. SLM

    There is so much corruption on both sides that we have become numb to all of it. What matters to us is the direction the country is being taken and the manner in which that is happening. I would consider the fact that our Treasury secretary didn't pay his taxes as more of a concern than strip club outings.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:36 pm |
  83. Paulette in Dallas,PA

    Can't say that it does Jack. It does give the public insight into what type of hippocties these self called "Conservative" politicans really are. I'm finding this unveiling very amusing.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:37 pm |
  84. bill, fresno, california

    Republican politicians don't really believe in family values.

    Look at John Ensign and Mark Foley.

    And all of these RNC shenanigans. How would good family values people even know those phone numbers? Or where those clubs were?

    Or how about taking Grandma's last $5, donated to the RNC, used to pay for limousines and private jets for Republican bigwigs?

    No, Republican politicians just talk the talk to manipulate their followers, who are generally more religious than they are.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:38 pm |
  85. Michael, Lorton, Virginia

    Jack: Is bondage a family value? That depends on the "hold" and the "holder." How much do trips to risqué nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers help the Republican Party? Well, let's say it is a "fun-raiser"-excuse me--"fund raiser" event that got out of control and into the the public eye-–In fact---instead of tainting the party-–membership just might increase-–nothing sells like Sexcapades--–look at the commericals today! This is not going to sit well with the conservatives Republicans-–but then when Bill Clinton had his skirmish--the Democratic party didn't crumble. That is what Washington DC is all about: Money, Politics and of course Sex.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:39 pm |
  86. Ann from Charleston S.C.

    I'll bet it improves their sex lives.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:39 pm |
  87. Mikey, Twin Lake, MI

    The GOP and their values. I think that they need to call their party the ME Party. I've got mine and the heck with everyone else. Just self obsorbed whiners and name callers.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:42 pm |
  88. Jack Jones

    Ah yes CNN and yet another Left slanted story. Wouldn't mind them so much if the pendulum swung both ways. As we all know there is corruption on both sides and yet CNN chooses to extensively cover only one side. And yet you must wonder why you are losing viewers. Because you choose not to report it, doesn't mean I don't know about it, it only influences me to go elsewhere to get COMPLETE news coverage. But hey, that's your choice.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:43 pm |
  89. Thom Richer

    I can only think you meant to ask how much do such hypocritical and penurious behavior by those who shout righteously and continuously of their Christian values, HURT the Republican Party. If we have any conception of these actions being of "help" to any party, we are in one hell of a mess. In fact, such acts by anyone in office or affiliated with either party, only hurts both parties because it shows corruption is an absolute in politics. Especially ours.

    Thom Richer
    Negaunee, MI

    April 2, 2010 at 4:43 pm |
  90. Bobby

    The GOP is the party of business, and these actions are great for business. Unfortunately for the GOP, though, the businesses they are helping - quite a lot, actually - are risqué nightclubs and sex hotlines.

    Urbana, IL

    April 2, 2010 at 4:50 pm |
  91. kacz

    If actions speak louder than words (and they do), any person who can fog a mirror when held to his or her face can see this particular party is over.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:51 pm |
  92. Bob in Tennessee

    It will probably cause some financial strain on the GOP, but I wonder how many are really surprised that this sort of activities go on. I am more surprised that it leaked to the media.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:53 pm |
  93. JaneE

    Whenever someone loudly proclaims something, the more skeptical I am about the accuracy and validity of their statements. Going to a bondage bar is only noteworthy if you have pretended to have higher moral standards than the type of people who go to bondage bars. The phone number thing is just a human error, brought to you by the party that made incompetence a job requirement.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:53 pm |
  94. Kevin in CA

    Since the "family values" campaign ended, it doesn't make much difference one way or the other.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:53 pm |
  95. Homeless D in Atlanta

    Probably6 not at all, but it sure helps the comedians! It helps take up the slack left when Bush left office!!!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 4:54 pm |
  96. Darwyn

    It helps the GOP get their other foot in the grave. Now all we need is to sit back and wait for Sarah Palin to pull the dirt in on top. (this is a call to go out and vote, not an incitement to violence.)

    April 2, 2010 at 4:54 pm |
  97. Claire Walter

    The rightwing lunatic fringe has hijacked the Republican Party, with the hehavior of too many indicating that hypocrisy is their number one family value.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:55 pm |
  98. Slingshot

    They're going for the "get freaky" vote.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:56 pm |
  99. Rick Beigler

    I don't think this harms the RNC, just makes them politicians. Bill Clinton's cigar incident, Larry Craig's "wide stance," The Kennedy's & Marilyn Monroe. Politicians and celebrities have money. Money makes you think with your "other brain." Not proof-reading your letters to ensure the phone # is correct? That's just stupidity. You can't fix stupid.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:57 pm |
  100. Joe CE

    Tyhe GOP's Putitan pornouncements and the irony of their behavior are astounding.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:58 pm |
  101. Nurse Lisa

    while they may seem like minor infractions to some of the young'uns, the Repugs with the $$$ to donate and the connections to win races are going to be looking foolish everytime they spout family values.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:58 pm |
  102. Bubba ATL GA

    Help the GOP? I'd throw them a rope, but I'm afraid they'd start tying each other up with it. Right now they should just give up; after calling their defeat Armageddon, Waterloo, AND Custer's Last Stand they are obviously going to be limp for years despite all this stimulation.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:58 pm |
  103. Joe

    It helps them because instead of focusing on the "loaded" hate rhetoric that their party has been spewing for months now, people are talking about these trivial issues A misprint in a newsletter, or one guy getting reimbursed inappropriately...really? The idea that these tiny incidents should sway even a single voter is pretty absurd, yet it almost certainly will, come election time.

    It's similar to their strategy of focusing on being pro-life, anti gay rights in order to get people to vote against their economic interests. What's wild is that tens of millions of Americans vote for a party that is completely contrary to interests that actually pertain to them (health care, unemployment, etc)

    April 2, 2010 at 4:58 pm |
  104. DM - San Diego

    Those who call themselves Republicans (clearly) need help in getting up, in the poles. Why don't you show a little compassion Jack? At least they're showing interest in women. That's a start, anyway.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:59 pm |
  105. Joe Gallagher

    I think the woman who arranged the trip to the bondage club was trying to impress the donors that Republicans can be hip also.

    But this domain should be left to the Democrats.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:00 pm |
  106. Casey

    I think it is time that Tea Party Members, and religous conservatives, and anti-government activist to step up and let their voices be heard. Though they have inundated various media the RNC has yet to listen to their concerns. Speak with your checkbook, your wallet, your cash! When the money dries up the RNC will kowtow to your whims. Hopefully by that time comes the Republican party will be as marganilized as the Whigs. At the very least the party would wind up as fractious as the Dems are now.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:00 pm |
  107. marlene

    I think the costs associated with getting elected to office are among the most obscene things about politics. Both parties should figure out a way to reduce the amount of money they spend. Costs involving night clubs expensed on reports don't help the attitude of the average voter toward politics in general. However, both parties are at fault for unnecessary spending. Marlene in Mich

    April 2, 2010 at 5:00 pm |
  108. David McKirdy

    I had always hoped the my party would loosen up a bit. but phone sex, risque clubs and bondage is a lot more than what I had expected.

    Dave
    Woodbury CT

    April 2, 2010 at 5:00 pm |
  109. Rob W.

    How does trips to risque' clubs help the republicans?

    Hastens this party to a much needed dissolution and reassembly as another entity...

    April 2, 2010 at 5:01 pm |
  110. Pam Bridge

    Wrll Jack,
    I think they are helping a whole lot. They are finally being truthful about the Party of Family Values.
    They don't have any values personally but they think other should.
    I want to thank them for honest about who they really are.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:01 pm |
  111. Nurse Lisa

    It boggles my mind that they don't think they could get a 2/3 no confidence vote to oust Steele from the RNC "leadership" and the GOP. But then again they've got lots of Posterboys for "don't let this happen to you" (Foley, Ensign, Craig, Sanford, Libby)

    April 2, 2010 at 5:02 pm |
  112. Lori - PA

    Jack,

    It helps show how corrupt politicans have become. I can only speak for me; I'm fed up with the corruption. I wonder when our elected officals are going to put the needs of the American people first.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:02 pm |
  113. EJ in metro Houston

    I can't see where this can help anybody but the Democrats, Jack. The GOP has long supposed to have been the party of morality and "family values"...pious conservatism and now they are showing that they are just like everybody else, flaws and can fall from grace as well. Perhaps if some of the "holier than thou" type of Republicans had not done all the finger pointing in the past then this type of stuff would be little than tabloid news but they have bought this image on themselves and now they must deal with it.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:02 pm |
  114. John Holmes

    I find my caring lacking. THey should have used the predeim they do not have to return

    April 2, 2010 at 5:03 pm |
  115. mark from michigan

    Jack, it helps the rest of the nation understand who really runs theRepublican party, and it aint Mr Steele. Nope, a powrful minority from the extreme right drive the agenda and its' subsequent priorities.
    How?...well no politician..would condone these activities, nor should they...but the self proclaimed ..' party of God'..now has its' christian
    money funnel..go public in instructing their flock..to not contribute to
    those sinners at the RNC...not sure whats more hypocritical...the right wings' assertion to be the only 'party of god'...while promoting hatred..towards those that disagree..or..the shutting down of the money coffers...towards..themselves..

    April 2, 2010 at 5:03 pm |
  116. Janet

    Jack –

    As you know, the GOP orchestrates everything, down to getting it's members in line to vote 'No' on all kinds of bills. The sex club and 800 line are intentional attempts to 'reach out' to liberals without actually doing so. You can say it's a 'mistake' and the rank and file will believe you while the left knowingly winks and says... "these Republicans... they actually are a lot like us". Truth is.... they are nothing like us. Their escapades are hidden behind a veil, or a 'church-owned' townhouse on C street, or on hiking trails in the mountains of South Carolina.

    Smart. Very smart.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:04 pm |
  117. Semo Rantamaki

    People forget how much damage the Republicans did to this country and to other nations abroad (Iraq, Somalia, etc.). Then they came up with the notion "Oh, both parties are bad" (since they are the minority). Then they came up with the schtick, "We are independents"... and basically trying to rebrand under the "Tea Party"... Same people, different slogans.... One liners, Talking points, Chest thumping rhetoric, Propaganda... whatever appeals to people's emotions regardless of legality or morality or detailed discussion or realistic solutions....
    Like talking about Death Panels... Not in My Backyard regarding moving and trying detainees at Gitmo in Federal Court... Still advocating Torture (under the psedonym "Enhanced Interrogations") without discussing the ramifications or if it works or that it has been exclusively targeted towards detainees who are Muslims...(Would they have contemplated "Enhanced Interrogations" for Terry Nichols to see of there were any other accomplices other than Mcveigh or if there were any other plots ? Oh, but they were citizens... So basically Torture if non-citizens, not if they are.. is that the argument ?)
    Have Fox News propagate misinformation, half information. Delve into details when it serves their agenda. Omit Reports, or report superficially when it does not. Spin the facts. Interleave Facts with fiction to leave viewers confused. Just watch Cavuto right now, trying so hard to bend the 165,000 job gain numbers so that it looks bad. Watch Bret Baer lead with unsubstantiated allegations about Muslim soldiers the day somebody flew a plane into the IRS building, or lead with the reported bombing in Moscow when Militia members were arrested for plotting to attack the police, right here. And so on....

    April 2, 2010 at 5:04 pm |
  118. A.B. Baltimore Maryland

    Jack, they don't!! These things will undoubtedly will hurt the GOP/Republicans and discredit them in thier effort to regain congressional majority status and the White House. Furthermore, the GOP has offered nothing on healthcare reform, job growth and energy efficiency. The Democrats are way ahead of them on these things and will retain their majority in Congress and remain in the White House. The risque nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers and other scandals raise questions about the Republican's ethics and judgement. I see the Democrats remaining the congressional majority and remaining in the White House after 2010 midterm election and after 2012.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:05 pm |
  119. peter locust grove ga

    just another nail in the family values coffin. GOP ers love to tell you how wonderful they are: shooting abortion doctors to death, ronald reagan and ollie north trading guns/drugs in the oval office, electing a known alcoholic to the presidency twice, gay congressman...If it weren't so hypocritical it would be funny...NOT!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:06 pm |
  120. CM

    I don't think they should hurt them that much. But let them not claim to be the party of morality and family values; let's be rid of the hypocrisy!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:06 pm |
  121. John C

    It actually helps the republicans because it helps people focus on the latest screw up and makes it easier for people to forget what a mess they made of the economy.

    The dissatisfaction with the health care reform is largely manufactured by the right because they have nothing of substance. A few polls showed that thier doomsday advertising worked and people where not for the characature of the bill that the Republicans portrayed. As people found out more about the actuall bill itself, support has climbed. THe people overwhelmingly wanted HCR, no matter what the GOP spin is.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:07 pm |
  122. Brian

    Jack,

    At least it's better than getting busted exchanging homosexual text messages with underage boys or buying meth from gay prostitutes. In fact, over the past ten years, strip clubs and phone sex hotlines are some of the most promising signs I've seen of the Republican Party moving in the right direction.

    Brian
    Boise, ID

    April 2, 2010 at 5:07 pm |
  123. Bud

    trips to risqué nightclubs and mailers with sex hotline numbers helps the members of the Republican Party 'take care of their business' but that wasn't meant to be public. The 'family values' party doesn't know how to say NO when it counts!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:09 pm |
  124. Paul B.

    Jack....I think you worded the question incorrectly. I believe you meant to ask how much this HURT the GOP, not how much it HELPS them.

    It is interesting, though, to see the number of people who assumed you meant what you said. There are too many unquestioning people in this world. They think some people (like you) are infallible.

    On the other hand, I think even brilliant people, like you, make mistakes.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:10 pm |
  125. Stoley Eisenhower

    "I think it is time that Tea Party Members, and religous conservatives, and anti-government activist to step up and let their voices be heard. "

    Are you kidding me? Those guys are the ones filled with the most hypocrisy. Look at all those religious right wing leaders getting caught up in weird sex scandals that sometimes involve children. The whole conservative movement is filled with hypocrites.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:11 pm |
  126. Annie, Atlanta

    Nothing touches them, from chasing pages to being diapered by hookers. I guess it’s ok if you’re a Republican, surely. And we’re ready to give them back power in a government they profess to hate, governing people they only have use for during election season? God help us.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:11 pm |
  127. Biff Hooper

    They were only trying to help some poor working girls!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:11 pm |
  128. Shawn

    The trips to the clubs don't help at all. The Republican party is suposed to be the party of morality and family values. They are supposed to be the party of religion and heterosexual only relationships. Yet, time and time again they get caught in bathrooms at airports cruising for gay sex, caught with their mistress, have wild nights to strip clubs.... Now a bondage club? That's certainly new. Looks like there is much more to their sexual crusade than we previously thought.

    Bondage? Were they whipping people that were tied up? What exactly happens at a republican night out?

    Guess I really don't want to know anymore details. I just will make sure my children don't pick them as role models.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:11 pm |
  129. Paul

    It's the Hypocrisy of it all Jack – Plain and Simple.

    One thing to have an affair, it's another to tell eveyone you're a "Promise Keeper" who cares only about Family Values. Then sneak around tapping on bathroom floors or hiking in Argentina :-)

    April 2, 2010 at 5:11 pm |
  130. B. Tillman

    Trips to risque nightclubs and sex hotline numbers help the
    Republican Party to forget that the Health Reform Billl has been signed into law.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:11 pm |
  131. Seth Chandler

    It helps the GOP because lots of people are turned of by its emphasis on "absinence only." Going to a club where patrons watch simulated lesbian bondage sex shows how much fun "abstinence only" can be.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:12 pm |
  132. Alex in Gig Harbor

    Rookie mistakes like these don't help at all. They can't proof read a mailer and they want us to trust them to govern? They can't manage a ten million dollar campaign budget and they want us to trust them to manage the economy? I'm just sitting back watching them implode.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:12 pm |
  133. Drew

    How can Republicans be intellectually honest and claim it's bad for gay Americans to want to settle down and get married, then turn around and get caught engaging in heterosexual licentiousness. Makes you wonder about the moral standards of the self-proclaimed party of "Family Values" .

    April 2, 2010 at 5:13 pm |
  134. Kevin

    How does it help? Easy. It attracts Democrats.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:13 pm |
  135. Alice Newman

    If the republicans had a vision, a concrete set of plans that include every American & a forward direction, they wouldn't have to seduce young people (45?) to join the GOP.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
  136. Sue from Redwood City

    Hypocrisy, hypocrisy, hypocrisy! Not only was it a bondage strip club, it was lesbian too. Isn't the Republican Party supposed to be against homosexuality? So much for the "Party of Family Values"! I guess March must have been the month for Hypocrites to get exposed big time. Maybe Steele and the Pope can lean on each other's shoulders and have a good cry together.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
  137. Gigi Oregon

    I don't think they are helping the Republican Party. Quite the contrary, but it is helping me. Voting for McCain and the Democrat's winning the election I decided too wholeheartedly support the President of the United States, Pres. Obama. At least I made one positive decision. And I believe it is the American way.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
  138. Stevenjb

    The numbers help so that you know where to get a Republican if you ever need one.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
  139. Karl from SF, CA

    When the party of family values does all this while now trying to take credit for passing health care reform after bashing it to the point of near riots with outlandish lies, it makes me wonder who in their right mind can support this dysfunctional organization. Moderate conservatives need to establish a new venue and replace the current representatives that have gone over the edge of rational thinking and behavior like Representative You Lie and Minority Leader Hell No, who have yet to denounce these incidents.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
  140. Gary - Woodhaven, Michigan

    This is great for the Republicans.

    They now go from the party of no, to the party of just can't say no.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
  141. Jeanne

    Read, "Republican Gomorrah" by Blumenthal and you will understand all this........no kidding!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
  142. Dennis Sherrod from Birmingham, AL.

    Of course it helps. If I had to deal with all that mess in Washington everyday, I would need more than this.

    Dennis Sherrod
    Birmingham, AL.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
  143. tony

    What goes around comes around! They deserve what they get.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
  144. Troy Kendal

    It helps the party bi making the public believe they are hip.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
  145. Linda

    $2000 is a small number compared to the John Edwards and Bill Clinton cost for sex. What do their activities say about family values?

    April 2, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
  146. Rodney, Maryland

    Jack, Simply put if Republicans can't control spending in their own party how can they with the Country. Let's not forget it was GOP's excessive spending that lead us to this mess. I guess they are trying again to put us in another Financial bondage.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:16 pm |
  147. Phil D.

    Now Jack, you know that's a loaded Question! Let me count the ways. One... one thousand. Two... one thousand. Three... one thousand!!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:16 pm |
  148. anne Krick

    Jack, that is the dumbest question you have ever asked!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:16 pm |
  149. Jeff in Minnesota

    Why is this a surprise? Most people in a position of power eventually allow themselves to believe their own press. They believe that they are above the rest of us and deserve the spoils they are offered whether it is money, freebies or sex. Whether it is movie stars, the famous (or infamous) or politicians, it does not matter. In their minds they are entitled to do things that are unseemly or flat out wrong. And the rest of us are suppose to excuse their behavior becuase they are who they are. And we enable this behavior because of the tabloids and TV programs that make them famous in the first place. Get over yourselves.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:16 pm |
  150. Joan in Canada

    I am amazed how much the Republican party has got away with – they have done absolutely nothing to add to the benefit of people in the States and yet they still seem to have people who want them in office !!!! AMAZING !!!!

    I guess that the sex parties and hot lines are part of the new election tactics being used by the GOP – they do not need a brain or the use of any common sense and that should suit most of the Republican voters.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
  151. jean

    How do you send out a sex line phone number by accident? Was the intended number one digit different or did they get the wrong zip code? This is just too coincidental~

    April 2, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
  152. Brian

    It helps keep up the image of all the closeted gay Republicans!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
  153. Ken in NC

    It further defines the kind of family they are. Well it further defines the kind of family they no longer are.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
  154. Lori

    It will help the Republicans in the sense that they will sink further and further into oblivion as their members continue to say one thing and do another, all the while accusing the Democrats of destroying this country. The party of family values they ain't.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
  155. Joe from Michigan

    It gives them something to do. These past 14 months or so have been sooooo boring considering they've done nothing except to say NO to everything. Poor babies!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
  156. Rob

    Perhaps the party is attempting to appeal to its more "nasty" members.

    In reality, Republicans are just as corrupt and slimy as any other politician, regardless of claiming the "moral high ground."

    Rob
    California

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  157. Mark Smith

    Sure it will help them. No longer will they be referred to as the "party of no". They will be known as the party of ",yes, yes baby ,yes."

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  158. Chris

    Frankly it's good to see the GOP self-immolate. Usually it's my guys, the Democrats.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  159. John Olson

    Republican office-holders are much less dangerous to the country and its citizens when they are pursuing sexual diversions than they are when they try to implement their poisonous philosophies of government on the rest of us.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  160. keith in ky.

    I say the same amount that they helped the demacratic party when they have their sex scandals, all in all nobody cares as much as the media would like to have us belive. There are much worse thing happing in this country to worry about!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  161. r.caruso

    ahhhhhh.......not at all!!! LOL

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  162. Miles Childrey

    These allegations show that the members of the Republican Party accused are simply human. They may not be conservative or fall in line with the values of the Party but none the less are simply human. No matter what people believe in there are moments where we all mess up and contradict the values we were taught.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  163. GulfShore

    Jack,

    I would be more than willing to give any Republican 3 minutes of nasty talk any time. For free.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  164. Rich McKinney, Texas

    It all depends on where your standing Jack. If you are one of the people that were in that club that night then you probably don't think anything of it. Lets face it folks politicians are flesh and blood and until you begin to realize that your wasting your time voting. If you put them on a pedestal then you have only set yourself up for disappointment when they fall off and it does not make a damn bit of difference what party they belong to they will all fall eventually.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  165. Bobby louisville, ky

    Wow the hypocrites strike again. Republicans judge everyone as if they commit no wrongs. Just another example of he who is without sin cast the first stone. They need to get a real plan for America instead of telling people how they should live there lives.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  166. Angie

    Help?

    It hurts the Republican party which prides itself on being the most religious, the most conservative, the most righteous party.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:19 pm |
  167. Richie - Arlington VA

    As a lifelong Democrat, I'm suddenly thinking about joining the Republican Party!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:19 pm |
  168. Joe from Viginia

    All the Republican leadership needs to do is get Rush Limbaugh Sarah Palin, and Sean Hannity to say that Bondage Clubs and Sex Numbers are part of "Good American Family Values" and 90% of Republizombies will start bashing Democrats for NOT doing this nonsense.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:19 pm |
  169. David

    As someone who has never voted republican in my 38 years of voting, I can't speak for what it does for the GOP, but it does raise my opinion of them a little.

    David
    New York

    April 2, 2010 at 5:19 pm |
  170. Dennis North Carolina

    only in the united states could this be tolerated.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:19 pm |
  171. Dennis Dinsmore

    I was impressed that some Republicans actually still think about sex. Similarly, when I heard about the runaway Prius I was impressed that a Prius could actually do 90.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:20 pm |
  172. Don Ritchie

    Ask the Whigs: This is how political parties die; screaming and ignored. First, one loses power. Then their coalition splits. Finally, big supporters financially, ideologically, and with manpower choose to endorse "candidates" instead of "parties". March 31, 2001: Grand. Old. Party. Rest. In. Peace.

    PS. Jack, your family's values sound terribly dull.

    Liberal in Louisiana

    April 2, 2010 at 5:20 pm |
  173. Howard Chicago

    The Republications could sell S&M and sex hotline T shirts. This could be sold at the same location along with the Democrats BFD T shirts.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:20 pm |
  174. matt

    Of course this helps the republican party. It helps them look bad. Which helps my party look better. Thank you whore loving republicans. Thank you.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:20 pm |
  175. Derrick Henninger

    It helps the party very much! Just not theirs. Further proof that most republican't politicians only pretend to share the social values of their base to get votes.

    – Ellensburg, WA.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:20 pm |
  176. Philip (Atlanta, Georgia)

    I am a Core Democrat and i am beginning to love this music. I care less about how many lap dances Michael Steel and his folks get on a daily basis, but my instincts tell me that Elliot Speizer may after all be a saint when this is over with.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:21 pm |
  177. LeeAnn-Idaho

    It might help their enrollment! My husband says if that's what members get he's ready to join.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:21 pm |
  178. Matt West

    The partisan sniping has little effect in Obama's America, Jack. $2000 dollars in the nightclub? How about billions of dollars wasted on non-existent stimulus projects? People are not that dumb.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:21 pm |
  179. Kelvin Owens

    Jack, simply put...it doesn't help. But, it continues to highlight the hyper-hypocrisy of the republican party.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:22 pm |
  180. Terry from Long Beach, CA

    It only helps to divide the Republican Party into conservatives, moderates, tea baggers and now masochist. Already a minority, as the jim crowers, loud, complaining, spitters die off, there may never be a republican majority in congress again.

    So, I encourage them to please keep being divisive. Please keep listening to Palin and Limbaugh. And, please keep being "mad as hell and not going to take it anymore." lol

    The rest of us need something to laugh at everyday.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:22 pm |
  181. Gregory Tripp, Mechanicsburg

    As I have heard it, tea baggers are really into these things big time, they just don't want to talk about it in public. Seriously, Jack. There have been scientific surveys that polled conservatives that found these guys, in addition to finding comfort in religion and guns, find that a high time on the ol' town and a "nasty girl" are just what they need to relax that rigid stiffness (of the back, Jack) that develops from narrow-minded, bigoted thinking. It should be a huge draw for new members. And for those ultra-conservatives who frown upon such activities, it should still serve as a draw as these weaknesses cry out for prayer and forgiveness which, ironically, these ultra-right-wingers are pretty good at.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:22 pm |
  182. Mike

    Not one bit! The single issue voters - abortion, guns, ... - don't have a clue or care what goes on as long as there are people in congress who carry their banner.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:23 pm |
  183. Josh from Chicago

    Well Jack, I don't think this will hurt the GOP- that is if they put Palin on damage control. She can do no wrong in the eyes of the more morally outraged of that party's base, so she's a clear choice to pee out this fire. All she has to do is to mumble some inarticulate jumble of nonsense, placing accents on randomly inserted right-wing buzz words, and all the red-colored woes will evaporate just as quickly as a trip to the ammo shop.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:23 pm |
  184. altaloman

    No one in their right mind should ever look to any political party or operatives for same as as defenders and scions of "family values." This incident is proof. The mixture of politics with religion (herein implied) is exactly why we are fighting dreadful wars in Afghanistan and Irag. In an age when we can't even count on the Vatican and many Catholic clergy to uphold such values, why in the world would we hold up politicians for fidelity to same?

    April 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm |
  185. John Holmes

    The down turn of the economy has reduced the amount of business that the gentlemen’s clubs are getting. Many women that lost their jobs started working at these clubs to make ends meet. They also had to reduce their prices to bring in more business. The republicans were just trying to reallocate the wealth to those that need it.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm |
  186. Chris in SD

    Well it could help appease moderates who want to vote for the GoP for fiscal issues but are put off by the religious right. This will show them that they are only giving those groups lip service and will throw them under the bus when it comes to legislating.

    Then again it disrespects a lot of their base...

    April 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm |
  187. Keith - Twinsburg, Ohio

    Jack, You keep forgetting that we're dealing with lawyers, here!!!

    What did you think you were getting??

    It's time to replace these lawyers with prople that have had jobs, and know how to DO something.... like run a business...

    Wait until the Fall.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm |
  188. Carl in San Diego

    Jack, it isn't going to help at all. Their 'family values' stance has long disappeared and their anti-gay stance remains strong, even though some of the members are jumping out of the closet. Politicians and the church make me laugh. The only thing both of them have in common with 'family values' is the old parental adage "don't do as I do, do as I say."

    April 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm |
  189. The Broker.

    "I dont think Sarah Palin, Mit Romney, or John McCain were there. Usually you beat up on them! Who cares what the black do, they are all out of jobs come next election, Barack Obama made sure no more blacks will ever get elected again."

    April 2, 2010 at 5:25 pm |
  190. PAT California

    Well, at least it shows some of them are still ALIVE!!!! I was beginning to wonder.............

    April 2, 2010 at 5:25 pm |
  191. MIKE FULTON

    It helps to reinforce the belief that those who voted for Obama did the right thing.

    The GOP is little more than a collection of one-issue splinter groups who think only of themselves and cannot see the big picture of America. The Republicans' attention spans are much too short to allow them address the issues that affect all Americans.

    Perhaps going to strip joints and listening to someone talk dirty to them gives them some sense of focus.

    If Michael Steele and other Republicans get off on dirty talk, they can call me. I'll give them an earful.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  192. Ezekiel

    Trips to risque and mailers visits really helps the GOP reaffirm her position as a party of "NO" to reform and "NO" to everything..........the head is only as good as the tail.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  193. Joe Muhmah

    The quicker this country moves away from a bi-partisan system the better. What a disaster! Coruption, losing sight of the PEOPLES agenda...there is no such thing as representation. Get out now...AVOID THE RUSH!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  194. leftcoastblue

    Oh, yeah, "the party of family values" . . . what hypocrites!!!

    I'm just glad I don't belong to THAT FAMILY.

    (By the way, does anyone wonder if it's the same Family that runs the C-Street clubhouse. Gotta be some weird stuff going on behind those doors.)

    April 2, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  195. Franseco Johnson

    The RNC has been engaged in distasteful politics to say the least. The current allegations does not surprise me nor do they the ammerican people.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  196. MIKE FULTON

    Mike in Charlotte, NC

    It helps to reinforce the belief that those who voted for Obama did the right thing.

    The GOP is little more than a collection of one-issue splinter groups who think only of themselves and cannot see the big picture of America. The Republicans' attention spans are much too short to allow them address the issues that affect all Americans.

    Perhaps going to strip joints and listening to someone talk dirty to them gives them some sense of focus.

    If Michael Steele and other Republicans get off on dirty talk, they can call me. I'll give them an earful.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:27 pm |
  197. Rod Thornton

    Will this help the Republicans in the long run? Thats doubtful. What's more likely to happen is that the Tea Party will strengthen as the Republicans continue on a path to self-destruction.

    As a I'm on the Democractic side of the political battle, I find the situation both somewhat laughable & tragical. As many of as suspected for years, there seems to be a substantial number of hypocrits in the Republican party.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:28 pm |
  198. Mark Levine

    Jack, although the Republicans are the party of "no", it is obvious that they like to party! Their interest in sex acts and bondage should convince our citizens that the Republican party is as far removed from "family values" as they could possibly be. However, this might help the GOP get the support of the porn industry!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:28 pm |
  199. Tom R, Santa Monica, CA

    It actually might help them in the long run. The more they push their "family values" agenda the more likely these kind of scandals will bite them on the backside. This could serve as a wake up call to the party to return to it's roots - focusing less on forcing it's "family" agenda on people, and get back to the business of keeping big government from getting bigger.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
  200. Kooky in CA

    How much of the $3.00 a minute goes to the RNC?

    April 2, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
  201. Nathan

    I think these revelations are great for Republicans. I'm certain they enjoyed themselves a great deal.

    Wait – they aren't planning to run for office or anything, are they?

    April 2, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
  202. steveo in kcmo

    hi Jack and happy Easter......
    the second one was a clerical error and shouldnt be a concern as much as I dislike Rethuglicans.
    the first one is certainly a problem and shows what hypocrites they really are. they're te party of the sexually repressed. its why Palin plays the overage MILF card every chance she gets and exactly why she'll run in 20102 until she gets laughed off the tabloid circuit and she does realty tv for old, cold trailer inhabitants or "writes" a book.
    because those looks are going and fast......
    it also seems pretty obvious to me she uses some sort of hormones if not HGH. she's getting same growth hormone jawline that Marion Jones had before they busted her. Hers was really obvious but Palins is getting close. Compare some older photos and recent ones and you'll see what I mean.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
  203. Stewart in OR

    Hey, Jack, Steele's doin' it OLD SCHOOL!!!!! But $3.00 a minute!!!! Way out of line for these tough times that the GOP had nuthin' to do with!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  204. DW

    Praise the Lord and pass the condoms. Halleluah!!
    I saw the light, and it was red. Amen.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  205. Agian Wynn

    If the RNC took me out to fun clubs and fancy dinners, I might consider switching parties too!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  206. Pamela Markman

    I think it helps the Republican Pary. All those grey haired Tea Baggers with Social Security checks in one hand and Medicare card in the other have really given the Republicans a bad name. Nice that the party of NO and Hell No know not just how to party but to Party On.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  207. k.ganesan

    Hi Jack:

    People should remember that G.O.P is the party of fine sleezebags like the Governor of South Carolina, Senators David Vitter, John Ensign and the other guy who was prpositioning an undercover male police officer in the washroom of Minneopolis airport, Tom Delay and other assorted theives. That does not include wholly owned subsidiary of G.O.P like oxycontine addicted Limbaugh. This Perkins guy is another hypocrat like all those people. His family values do not include providing health care for over 30 million people.

    K. Ganesan

    April 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  208. Mark C

    This is the party of anonymous gay bathroom sex, and harassing underage pages by email. At least the strippers were consenting adults of the opposite sex. Things are looking up for the GOP.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  209. HANK DANIELS

    The so called family value is just a gimmick to entice a group of people who believe in pro life, small government, less taxes etc. jack i think any sane being can see the ship skin worn by all religions. Islam attributed to terrorism and Christians with abuse of children. But then the fact is to lead us human without religion, family value, free speech apparently democracy is next to impossible. so i think the issue of republican and a night club in LA, will be dinner republicans ate last week.

    HANK DANIELS.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:32 pm |
  210. John W Brewer

    No excuses for the young Republicans and the night club, but the RNC sex thing rings very hollow when you delete the mail-out clerical error.

    A note scratched on another toilet stall such as yours suggests you go to "whitehouse.com" for a good time. Try it. I suppose you'll say George W. wrote it there.

    This after having seen your blog on Obama's "open administration" I suggested they tune in. Silly me! Your reason lasted but one day.

    CNN is CNN, ABC is ABC, CBS is CBS, NBC is NBC, and MSNBC is MSNBC, and toilet walls are toilet walls.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:32 pm |
  211. Mike To

    I would hate for them to be the majority party again. I understand that these incidents were "mistakes" but when you are leading a country you can not afford to make stupid "mistakes". They have to pay attention to details. Just imagine the President of the USA goes in front of the camera to apologize for releasing nukes on a state or a country. You can't say sorry but I pressed the wrong button. They need to pay attention and as a nation we can't afford another 8 years of failed policies and incorrect informations. I hope that people will see the deception the Republicans are trying to sell them.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:33 pm |
  212. George

    Well, bad acts hasvn't hurt Charlie Rangle or any of the other crooked Democrats, so why would it hurt the Repubs

    April 2, 2010 at 5:34 pm |
  213. Ken

    Jack,

    The Republican party talks a a good game, but can't walk the walk. Regardless of the fact they paid for or did not pay for the Sex Club, if the party needs to take a contributor to a sex club or spend big bucks on perks to get them to give money, it tells me that the Republican Party is not really a fiscally or religiously conservative party. If they can't be conservative inside the party how can they be that way outside the party. I still find it hard to believe that NO Republican supported the Health Care bill with all of the Republican Initiated ideas in it, including the President's "no public money for abortions" guarantee and deficit neutral costs. This proves to me that the Republicans are not what they say they are, but will take any stand that is opposite of the Democratic stand without regard to what is really good for America.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:35 pm |
  214. Kirk Neuman (Apple Valley, MN

    And the GOP thinks they can do a better job than the Democrats?

    April 2, 2010 at 5:35 pm |
  215. Lonnie

    My Sentiments; both parties seem quite satisfied with spending money we don't have. Their answer – push through the approval of billions in more funding so the government won't close. Well I for one wouldn't mind the government closing for a few – might get the politicians to FINALLY figure out that MOST intelligent people balance their checkbooks and don’t spend money they don’t have. Let's see if you don’t have the money you might want to cut back some of the fat. Looks like it's going to take a libertarian to pull our heads out of wherever they are. I'm leaving my party and I know quite a few who want REAL change as well. It will be interesting to see if others in the US get fed up the lack of outcry is rather dunning. You know I always thought I'd waste my vote if voting Libertarian but perhaps I've really been wasting my vote with my own party.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:36 pm |
  216. M.L. Squier

    Not a twit, but Sarah Palin will be there to rescue these hot to trot Republicans You bectcha...unless Miss Palin herself begins holding onto and swinging around a big poll...I mean pole.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:36 pm |
  217. Zach, Nashville, TN

    What do you expect, the Republican party is so confused and lost. why? because they are not focusing on resolving the issues. instead, they focus on how to defeat president Obama's agenda and they think it will make them look good in November. Wrong!!! I will vote on who work resolve the issues. The Republicans have not produced anything good. And as we see now, the party of "Hell No" to health care is also the party of "Hell No" to family values now.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:36 pm |
  218. Jeff Clemetson

    This seems to fit the Rebublican MO, really. A party based on greed (less taxes, staus quo for the rich, etc.) is bound to have issues with morality eventually. It's like high school – the rich, spoiled kids were always the ones doing the dirtiest deeds.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:37 pm |
  219. Franseco Johnson

    The RNC has ingage in distasteful politics for the last few years. These allegations does not surprise me nor do they surprise the American people at large. The is the beginning of the end For the GOP.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:37 pm |
  220. Nick D. Neighbour

    Hey! It could be the MAKING of 'em!
    Nick. N.
    Pasadena. CA.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:37 pm |
  221. jeff jackson, alabama

    Get off it, Jack !!!
    The GOP had no idea where that money was
    going, just like the DNC doesn't know where
    all their money is going. You are the King
    of journalistic intellect !
    Why don't you use a little energy and look
    where some of our government's money is
    going, Jack ???

    April 2, 2010 at 5:38 pm |
  222. Rose

    Republican Polititians need to do some soul reaching and finally confess their sins and admit that they have been in the past ans still are a bunch of hipocrits. They call themselves conservtives and supporters of family values. It is high time for that party to change their slogan- "Do as I say, not as I do".

    April 2, 2010 at 5:39 pm |
  223. Pam holt

    Foley,al. I just don"t understand it, for the past 8 years bush and the republican party has destroyed our economy, and they act oblivious, about it. Why would we even need these sleazy soap opera stories to embarrass them further. I lay in bed at night thinking about our soldiers dying in what is soposed to be a war against terroism and we"re fighting the Taliban. I don"t understand why there isn"t an outcry , from the relatives of our soldiers. Yet here we are, listening to this crap, about perverted republicans. Ian"t the fact that they have ruined our economy, thrown us into illegal wars that have costs the lives of our heroes, enough ? If the democrats would have raised hell like the republicans have against obamas administration, when the republicans were in charge , for the last eight years, maybe we wouldn"t have been in the situation today. I"m sorry, I guess I"m to upset about our countrys predicament to hear about the slleaze that the republicans are involved in. After all , if they were willing to let what happen to our country take place, what else is left that would shock us???

    April 2, 2010 at 5:40 pm |
  224. frank

    It can't hurt. The bible thumpers and gun idiots will always GOP. maybe they can expend their base to S&M lesbian women. Great combo.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:40 pm |
  225. Anni L.

    It means the Republicans can finally get rid of that pesky elephant symbol and substitute a blindfolded hooker riding a unicorn. There's something you don't see every day... probably.

    A. Long
    Kansas

    April 2, 2010 at 5:41 pm |
  226. Efrain

    And they say that the Democrats are out of touch with the American people? Such hypocrisy I can't beleive indepenedents trust these guys to run anything. They can't even cleanup their own house.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:42 pm |
  227. OhioRon

    I can't believe all of the misinformed posters on here. Everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon without knowing the facts. The GOP was not running off to the strip club. It was just a vendor for the GOP that was trying to write off his trip. This guy was doing printing or something for the GOP. He doesn't represent them. But you people don't care because you just want to hate hate hate. So much hate.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:43 pm |
  228. Mary

    The GOP is not spinning this correctly. This was a fact finding mission to see what helps tear families apart. :) Mary – Phoenix

    April 2, 2010 at 5:43 pm |
  229. Geoffrey in Lowell, MA

    Did you know that French maids are dressing up like Republicans? Truth be told, it is a real turn on to have someone dusting my furniture and looking like a repressed anti-intellectual white guy.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:46 pm |
  230. steve- virginia beach

    There are major problems in both the Democrat and Republican partys. You didn't mention whether the RNC knew what the reimbursement was for and the phone number was obviously a mistake. But it does show that the Repubs still aren't running a tight ship. The Dems are even worse. Now more than ever we need a plurality of problem-solving independents in Congress and an White House independent of any party.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
  231. Mark from Boston

    Grand Ol' Porn Party... that's classic.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
  232. Marion/Alabama

    Who cares Jack,It was not Tax money. Why would anyone really care?ALL these bed wetters complain like it was their money,where is the outrage of the wasteful spending of tax dollars,by Pelosi,Reid,Schumer,Rangel,Frank and Dodd?

    April 2, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
  233. chunkyblamm

    I dont like the right or the GOP but I sure would like to go party with a few of them. And do it on their own contributers dime, I'm in.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
  234. Tom from Vermilion, Ohio

    Seems to be an awlful lot of "Disenchanted Republicans Out There"; Seems to be whole bunch of "Enthused and Confident Democrats and Independant Out There"

    April 2, 2010 at 5:48 pm |
  235. John Holmes

    The biggest problem with our government officials is there is nothing we can do for many of their actions. Until recently they lived in a void where the information was hard to get. Since the internet has taken off information gets out so fast they can no longer hide in the void. However, this does not really do anything but make news. There are too many people that do not like what their representatives are doing and still will vote for them because they will always vote for that one party. If the people in office treat you like you are stupid it is because they keep doing their own thing and we keep voting them in.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:49 pm |
  236. June

    It's a great opportunity to form a 3rd party. Sane republicans should leave the party along with non-socialist democrats and form a new honest party that represents the concerns of average hard working Americans.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:51 pm |
  237. Dale Portland, ME.

    After I finished rolling around on the floor laughing, I decided that They have practically killed their message and credibility to speak for anyone suffering from this recession or families seeking guidance in a quickly changing world. Apparently there's quite a bit the party of no doesn't say no to!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:52 pm |
  238. WRH

    This is a silly question. You can't judge all Republicans by the actions of a few, or one – and a typo doesn't constitute a shift in party doctrine. Should we judge all Democrats by the actions of William Jefferson? What this does do is embarrass and distract them but my opinion is all politicians, Republican and Democratic should be distracted – just long enough that we can round them up and put them somewhere where they can't hurt anyone. Although a generalization, I believe that all politicians are scum – period. Sure, some go in as good, right-minded people but in the end they all play a corrupt game – a game that you can't play without getting dirty. So I'm never surprised when I hear about any political scandal.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
  239. JR

    The RNC uses the clubs as training grounds, where else would they learn their version of "family values"?

    April 2, 2010 at 5:54 pm |