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January 20th, 2010
07:00 PM ET

How should Democrats proceed on health care?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

The Republicans' victory in Massachusetts could very well be the final nail in the coffin for the Democrats' health care reform.

Exit poll data from one Republican firm shows the health care bill was the single most important issue to Massachusetts voters. This poll found 52 percent of those surveyed are opposed to health care reform; and 42 percent say they cast their ballot to help stop the overhaul.

Without the 60 vote filibuster-proof majority in the Senate, the Democrats are left with a few options - none of them all that good... and most involving complicated legislative procedures.

The house could pass the bill that cleared the Senate as is - but several House Democrats are suggesting they won't go for that.

The House could also pass the current Senate bill and then try to fix it with a procedure that only needs 51 votes to pass the Senate.

Or the Democrats could scrap what they have and just try to pass a bare-bones bill that includes some of the most popular initiatives.

Several senators - including democrat Jim Webb - are calling for health care reform to be suspended until Scott Brown is sworn in.

And it appears President Obama may be getting the message... he says that the Senate shouldn't jam health care through before Brown is seated: "People in Massachusetts spoke. He's got to be part of that process."

Here's my question to you: How should the Democrats proceed on health care now that they no longer have the votes to pass it in the Senate?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Jacques from Oregon writes:
Listen to Howard Dean. Sack the whole thing and start over and don't let the insurance lobby run the show, as it has done in the last few months. Otherwise, strip out the mandate, fines and taxes on Cadillac plans, and add in either a public option or buy-in to Medicare.

Danny from Brooklyn, New York writes:
The Democrats should push just as hard as they were before Massachusetts election. We have a lot on the table: terrorism, natural disasters, unemployment and the economic crisis. We shouldn't have to worry about health care in times like these. This should have been done many administrations ago.

Peter from Pasadena, California writes:
Start from scratch. Be incremental. What a profound waste of time health care reform has been. So many pressing and arguably more important issues have been set aside by congressional leadership to pass a bill that was an expensive overreach. Leadership has done a disservice to rank-and-file members of congress who seem to get it. Thank goodness the

Mass. voters have caused Congress and the president to take their foot off the gas and look both ways (before they cross voters).

Ed writes:
Jack, They should NOT proceed with reform because it isn't reform. Since when do we call higher cost, lower quality and more red tape "reform?" Americans want this to stop and to move instead towards a plan that is BETTER and fair and put together in an open and transparent way. Remember that broken promise our president made?

Tracy from New York writes:
Gee, here's a novel idea: listen to The People! How about this one: Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and the gang refrain from the insults and derogatory descriptions of the independent voters participating in Tea Party protests and sit down and listen to what they have to say?


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soundoff (241 Responses)
  1. Mark, Bradenton,FL

    Consult with the American people what the American people want coverage without taxation, coverage like in Europe, no more secret deals, open discussions, exclusion of Reid and Pelosi and focus on jobs first.

    January 20, 2010 at 2:52 pm |
  2. timlwilliamson

    Compromise to get the support of the moderate Republicans, then move forward.

    January 20, 2010 at 2:53 pm |
  3. Rick McDaniel

    Back to square one.

    There is absolutely no way to reduce health care COSTS, unless you take the profiteering out of health care. That means, you have to cut out the various levels of profits, by making health care universal for all, and eliminating the profits of the insurance companies, doctors, hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, and all the rest. You also eliminate fraud, because all of those will then rely on the government for income, and wrong doing will put you out of business entirely.

    There simply is no other way to reduce costs, and any intelligent person should be able to comprehend that.

    January 20, 2010 at 2:54 pm |
  4. IKHAN

    Jack,
    too many compromises to begin with which rightly turned off most Americans.Secret negotiations with the Unions , this is not on.

    I think Dems should drop the Bill in its current mutated form & begin anew with their ears to what majority of Americans want. And no compromises on what this country needs – affordable health care for all.

    January 20, 2010 at 2:59 pm |
  5. Tony from Southport

    If Democrats are serious about health care reform, they should listen to the people. First it was New Jersey and Virginia, now it's Massachusetts. The people have spoken. If health care is to be reformed, both parties need to sit down and discuss it. Democrats should be open to tort reform, even though the lawyer lobby would be upset. Real competition is only available when the people can buy insurance across state lines, bringing premium costs down. Anti trust laws need to be looked at.

    The American people are watching and listening, but Pelosi, Reid and others in Washington seem to be unaware. It's time they started to watch and listen as well.

    January 20, 2010 at 2:59 pm |
  6. Joanne B

    It's very obvious the American People don't want the tax and control HealthCare bill – a nitwit can figure that one out.
    We have read it and it is all about tax, mandates for 18 Million young people to purhcase healthcare they don't want (unconstitutional), and control of the American People.
    Still after all the mandates, taxes, etc. 23 Million won't have coverage.
    The Congress is full of goofballs.
    Joanne B
    MN

    January 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm |
  7. Allen L Wenger

    Forget about it, you can't fight the lobbyists. Trying to help the poor is a losing political position, they cannot donate money to you and they have no power. The Republicans were right to align with big business and the wealthy, there is no financial benefit in helping the poor.

    Mountain Home ID

    January 20, 2010 at 3:01 pm |
  8. Layne Alleman

    Jack, That's way too easy; sit back and wait till the insurance lobbyists tell them what to do(as they ALL do, anyway). Layne A. Antioch, Il.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:02 pm |
  9. Karen, Idaho Falls

    Healthcare is too important an issue to sweep under the table. It should be debated all over again–this time with an equal number of Democrats and Republicans–and definately not behind closed doors. The bill has become so gutted that there is nothing left–its time to begin again.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:03 pm |
  10. JD in NH

    They should proceed to reconciliation and open up Medicare for everyone immediately. Every citizen deserves basic health care. If nations such as Canada and England can do it, there's no reason we can't. The Democrats were doing fine until they stopped listening to their constituents.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:03 pm |
  11. Dennis north Carolina

    proceed straight ahead because failure will destroy the country and the economy.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:05 pm |
  12. Tina Tx

    No. I would turn it all over to the party of no and let them do their jobs and then the Dems would be elected back in office. People need good insurance but it looks doubtful.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:05 pm |
  13. Doyle from Canada

    If it was medicare for all I would ram it through.
    Because of the very tainted bill I would scrap it, & admit the republican & blue dogs won.
    A sad day for your country.
    After 8 years of Bush you would think everyone would be on board to right the wrongs & do the moral thing for your poor.
    I guess your not the greatest country in much of anything.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:08 pm |
  14. steve brandt

    Since the summer, we the people, have been saying stop this madness! Well, my answer to your question is stop the madness. This is not a R or L position, a D or an R position. We cannot and should not be spending ourselves into oblivion. Stop this madness President Obama!

    January 20, 2010 at 3:13 pm |
  15. Dan

    Pass the existing Senate bill to avoid a filibuster, than change bad sections as you can. Why do we have a filibuster anyway? It only allows those who aren't in power, can't win to stop the government from doing anything serious. If you want to know how health care will fare under the do-nothing Republican policy, just look at the performance of insurance and drug company stocks after the Brown win. By the way, a win in a state that has a successul health care system already doesn't reflect national sentiment for reform. How can you expect complete, economical change in one yer when it took many years to creat this mess?

    January 20, 2010 at 3:14 pm |
  16. Jay-Deerfield Beach Florida

    Fah-Git-About Health Care.. I need a job!

    January 20, 2010 at 3:14 pm |
  17. Paul Round Rock, Texas

    Why not If the Bush administration was in the same boat they would have taken the chance to get what they wanted passed prior to not having enough votes to do so. It would also be a last victory for Ted Kennedy if they do.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:16 pm |
  18. Sue-Los Angeles, CA

    They should toss out this disaster of a bill they call health care and start over with real reform. Republicans have good common sense ideas, let's start there, by including them in an honest debate. Democrats arrogance excluding the Republicans because they didn't need their vote has cost them dearly.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:16 pm |
  19. J. Lichtenberg

    Write bills without earmarks or backroom "deals" - pass each individual "reform" as a separate bill. Only do what 90% of the Reps or Senators want done.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:17 pm |
  20. Joan

    Begin again! Keep it down to, oh, say 50 pages. Listen to the people. Listen to both sides of the aisle. Make compromises. Keep the cost down. Be fair to all Americans. No special deals for anyone, any group, or any state. Nothing done behind closed doors. That should do it for me.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:17 pm |
  21. David from Herndon, VA

    It wouldn't be right to try to ram it through before Brown gets seated. Even if it worked, Dems would pay the price for that for a generation.

    Let it go. The wingnuts won because they maintained a unified message (albeit insane). The bill is so watered down at this point that it's not worth passing anyway.

    Just make it VERY CLEAR come november who was responsible for killing health care.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:20 pm |
  22. Donnie

    Jack I think start over with some of the things that have been
    removed from this plan. Some of the things like public option,
    ability to buy across state lines, and some of the things that was
    removed by pressure from the lobby for the insurance companys.
    A bunch of the congress will be trying to get re-elected from both
    parties. This would be a good time to put the things in that all of
    them would have a hard time voting against. The no vote will not
    lose their seat to make someone else look bad.

    Donnie
    S.E. Okla.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:21 pm |
  23. KarenB, central Florida

    Keep up with me here Jack – Take all the garbage they have written up, throw it away, start over –
    by limiting the malpractice amount/frivolous suits to lower insurance for doctors;
    and pass a bill that makes Medicare, Insurance companies, the VA and everybody to get bids for drugs
    and also allow importation of drugs back that were ORIGINALLY MADE IN USA that were shipped to Canada -
    and drug makers in Canada to be approved to be shipped to the US so drug prices can go down (hopefully WILL go down due to competition)...
    and allow individuals to buy insurance across state lines and shop for the least expensive rate possible.
    and put provision in the bill that will cover pre-existing conditions and no insurance company be allowed to deny anybody coverage.
    Lets start with that first and go from there. Pass that and improve as go along.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:22 pm |
  24. Tom, Avon, Me, The Heart of Democracy

    If the president still thinks half a loaf is better than none, I'll go along with that.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:22 pm |
  25. Dave, Brooklyn, NY

    From what I can gather by watching TSR over the last year, the bill has been gutted of any meaningful reform other than pork and windfall profits for the healthcare industry. They should just drop the issue and we will all be better off. Unfortunately, they will spin their wheels going nowhere in an attempt to make us think they are doing the people’s work. But we will not be fooled this time. Pelosi, Reid and the rest of their bumbling band of bums will be tossed out on their pensions. Coakley was only the first to go, the rest will follow in November. We will not get a better Congress, but at least the same old slimy moochers will not be feeding at the public trough anymore. If we are smart, we will continue to keep throwing these fools out until a few of them figure it out and do the job we hired them to do.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:23 pm |
  26. Rob in NC

    They waited long enough so that something like this could happen. Now they will be able to "blame" the republicans for not getting it passed. I do not believe they actually had any intention of passing a working bill anyway. Rob in NC

    January 20, 2010 at 3:24 pm |
  27. Gary of El Centro, Ca

    They need to act fast and ram it through. That's what their Republican counterparts would do if the situation was reversed. They need to "grow a set" and just get it done.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:25 pm |
  28. Nancy from Colorado

    They should go all out "damn the torpedoes" and push health care legislation through right now. Enemy torpedoes did not win WW 11 and they should not win now. We know who the torpedoes are, or at least we should know who the enemy of the people who need health care are. They are our own home grown suicide bombers who would blow everybody else up including themselves just to take down our President. How insane!

    January 20, 2010 at 3:26 pm |
  29. Bev -an American in Canada

    Finish the job Jack, finish the job, too many peope are dying needlesly because their insurance for more cancer treatments have dried up. They should not let Brown's win decide who gets to live and who gets to die. This is the point where they must be even more determine to see this through and those politician who have already given up, lets get them voted out.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:27 pm |
  30. Don - Northwood, Ohio

    How should the Democrats proceed on health care? They need to pack it and their Special "Secret" Little Deals up and go to the top of the highest Building and Jump Off!! No matter how you Flavor It, It still tastes BAD, You may want to say "Progressive" but we still see it as "Socialist".

    January 20, 2010 at 3:28 pm |
  31. Denny from Tacoma, WA

    Continue to stick it up where the sun doesn't shine like they have been doing all along.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:30 pm |
  32. Ben, Baton Rouge

    The Democrats blew it. Health insurance reform isn't possible now.

    The best they can do at this point is pass a law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of pre-existing conditions, which both Republicans and Democrats support, and call it a day.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:31 pm |
  33. Sandra in Temecula, CA

    How should they or how will they? We can only hope that they understand they are no longer 100% in charge of shoving through whatever they want. The democratic process needs to work the way it was intended and the way it should have started a year ago, include everyone in the debate and work together on a bipartisan bill that is good for all Americans. If they can't seem to do that, we the voters will use our democratic process and vote them out of office, starting with Harry Reid.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:33 pm |
  34. Gordo, NJ

    By now, the Obama administration knows what each of the many special interests wants, and it knows what the American people desperately need. The Administration should draft a pragmatic, common sense heath-care bill, without all the line-by-line "help" of lobbyists from the insurance industry, big pharma, unions, business, etc. hanging over their shoulder. Publish the bill for all to see, and then tell congress to read it and vote it up or down, with the promise of a veto if Congress tries to add any amendments or pork.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:35 pm |
  35. Russ in PA

    Remove all the regulations, and open health care up to the free market. There is no other solution if one expects to have affordable health care. Going the current route, we will have the usual winners and losers – us self-employed persons being among the losers. Look at the German system, for example, news today discusses how they are going to stop people from visiting doctors an average of 18 times a year. Socialized medicine: sure does a body good, doesn't it?

    January 20, 2010 at 3:35 pm |
  36. Conor in Chicago

    They should realize that the Republican strategy from the beginning has been to twist this bill around so much as to make it unpalatable to almost everybody and blame it on Obama and Democrats. Thus far, this has strategy has totally worked. They should scrap the bill and go on the offensive about how this is what the Republicans did. That way people will see that as imperfect as anything is going to be at least the Democrats tried. The Republicans of course did nothing accept make sure you didn't get healthcare and said you weren't a "Real American" if you thought this idea had an merit.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:37 pm |
  37. Philip from Toronto

    America needs the Canadian System, but in a modified way. Triple the size of V.A. hospitals, and build 200 more, graduate 10,000 new Doctors through the Military System, pay them a Colonels pay and open up the hospitals to anyone who wants to use them.
    America must control health care costs and only the Government is able to do that.
    Supply meets demand, and true competition, even the Republicans would accept that.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:37 pm |
  38. S, Michigan

    Slow down, put their turn signals on, make a u-turn and come back to the public to ask what we want. We are their bosses and they do what we want and don't do what we don't want! Nov '10 should be a wonderful month for the USA.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:39 pm |
  39. Larry from Georgetown, Tx

    By the time we have health care reform in our country McCain's grandkids will be dead but then again they don't have to worry about money. Without a public option kill the bill.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:41 pm |
  40. Mike from Denver

    I would say "open and honestly", but unfortunately I live in a little place called reality.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:44 pm |
  41. Doug - Dallas, TX

    The bill they currently are trying to reconcile sucks so they're going to have to start all over which means we won't see anything worthwhile in our lifetimes.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:46 pm |
  42. David of Alexandria, VA

    They should pretend to be at a railroad crossing with the opportunity for a train wreck looming - check out the sign: Stop, Look, and Listen. Stop trying to ram through a bill not a lot of people seem to want. Look at what the unilateral, clandestine, and pork-laded process has done to their integrity. Listen to what the public is saying about how this is playing out and what their priorities should be in our troubled economy. Otherwise, they will figure out that self-absorbed, ideological arrogance alone will not stop a train. The train will always win.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:47 pm |
  43. hank from Las Vegas

    use every trick in the book to get it passed do not think for one minute the Republicans would not follow that path if in the same position..

    January 20, 2010 at 3:49 pm |
  44. Fred R DeLeon SR

    Make it good for the American people, not for Pelosi and partenrs
    in crime. Pleasing Obama is NOT their job.

    Fred
    Indianapolis IN

    January 20, 2010 at 3:57 pm |
  45. Eugene Northern Cal

    Jack, Now that the democrats have been forced by MA. voters, to deal with health care reform honestly and realistically, they'll have to go back to square one and include the republicans. The unholy Obama/Pelosi/ Reid triad has damaged the arrogant, elitist democrats and they'll be forced to move towards the center and adopt a more populist and fair approach, to health care reform. Maybe we'll even see some of that transparency Obama promised us, but don't hold your breath.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:57 pm |
  46. Ryan - Galesburg, IL

    Time to strong-arm the obstructionist Republicans, as well as centrist (corporate) Democrats into working for the people. George W. Bush didn't need a super-majority to ram policies that were injurious to the middle class through the Congress, and neither do the Democrats. It's time to show that the work of the People is paramount, beginning with forcing passage of healthcare reform that is worth a damn.

    January 20, 2010 at 3:58 pm |
  47. Jane (Minnesota)

    With only the best interest of the voters that elected them in mind. I'm not happy with my health insurance premiums rising double digits year after year and the deductible going from $100 to $2,000 in 4 years time.

    Design a system that controls cost. I maintain that health care should not be for-profit industry especially in this day and age of Wall Street and Corporate greed. The ones that lose are the every day people who seem to not have any representation in the reform fight.

    The advice isn't just for the dems, either – last time I checked, the Republicans are also supposed to be working for the people that voted for them and not the health care lobbies!

    January 20, 2010 at 4:00 pm |
  48. george

    To be honest i didn't think that health care would get this close to passing, but this country is just a nudge away from the people retaking the government. The vote yesterday is just a beginning, as Republicans, and Democrats will fall from power, and a new form of government will take place, you know. by the people, for the people. It is ironic that the first sign of this happening came in Boston, the home of the original tea party, and is just a beginning of what is to come.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:01 pm |
  49. Ken in Michigan

    If they think that the Massachusetts citizens were angry with where they've brought us with secrecy, extortion, spending like drunken sailors, and ignoring the voters... just wait for an out and out Reveloution II.
    With republicans saying "start over"... with democrats saying "start over"... with voters demanding "start over".... do they have a choice. They can step up to the role they were voted into, or follow Pelosi and Reid over the cliff like Lemmings.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:01 pm |
  50. Darren

    Bum rush the lobbyist-written Senate version through, without the need for anymore obsturctionist input, and fix it up further on down the road seems to be the best measure for saving healthcare reform or the Senate's version thereof.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:02 pm |
  51. chris

    scrap it start over get one we the american people want and need not theirs filled with pork and govt waste and cut it from 2,000 some pages to 100 and let us see the bill put it on c-span and let us see a bill we would support

    January 20, 2010 at 4:03 pm |
  52. Jimmy from Houston, TX

    With this current bill......they shouldn't. Their loss last night should come as a wake up call. Quit trying to shove this bad bill through. Brown won as the candidate who could stop this bill and if the Democrats still can't figure that out, they too will soon be booted out.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:04 pm |
  53. HD in Phoenix, AZ

    If there is to be true healthcare reform...it needs to be extreme insurance regulation and control.

    HD in Phoenix, AZ

    January 20, 2010 at 4:05 pm |
  54. Loren, Chicago

    Stop being so pig-headed about it, and create real reform that doesn't just protect the benefits of Democratic Party supporters and add increased costs to an already over-burdened governmental system. What the Democrats seem to ignore is that we've had Medicaid and Medicare for forty years and it has proven to fraud prone and expensive. Maybe they ought to work to fix that first before taking on the much bigger and riskier health care expanision that their so-called reform calls for. Small steps first. Fix what's broke and then build new.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:05 pm |
  55. Diana NJ

    For those who say it is the (economy stupid)... the Dems could decide to let all the health care go.. and the insurance companies will bankrupt us and everyone else... because without health care reform they will continue to go up 10% to 30% each year...
    Working on HCR will help the economy...

    January 20, 2010 at 4:06 pm |
  56. Ed from California

    Put in the Public option. Make it affordable for everyone to buy. Call it, "Medicare for everyone" if you want. Just get the damn thing passed! The Democrats are to nice, to green, to co-oppy. They need to be like the Republicans and lead this country. The Democrats need leaders who can lead for the good of the people, the common "man". And not lead like the Republicans, who lead for the good of the corporations, banks, Wall st, job outsourcing and not for the common "man". Come on Democrats, Cowboy-up.....cupcakes!

    January 20, 2010 at 4:07 pm |
  57. Zach - DC

    They should take advice from the angry voters and the majority of Americans. Scrap it. Tackle other pressing issues, like, I dunno, the 10% unemployment rate and the economy. When they have done that try again on healthcare. This time actually focus on reform, real reform. Not some bill so laden with pork barrel spending and special projects that it does nothing but cost the middle class money. Maybe reach over to the other side of the isle. And please, please, please keep Ried and Pelosi out of it.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:08 pm |
  58. Elizabeth

    They should hire an ex Republican lobbyist for advice. No seriously! This entire Health Care issue is a waste of time and money. A Health Care bill should have been passed 30 years ago. Why does a country with the largest, cohesive and wealthest population in the world not have health care? It's crazy. Who is relieved and saying good job Independents and Republicans? Insurance Companies & Pharmaceutical companies because it's another year for them to "out smart" Americans.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:08 pm |
  59. M & M

    Well, the old jingle "stop, look and listen, before you cross the street" comes to mind. Now's a good time for democrats to stop and pay attention to what voters are telling them.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:09 pm |
  60. Jimmy from Houston, TX

    Find the closest fire pit, set it on fire. Then do what they should have done in the first place, work on real reform, include every elected member of the house and congress in the process. No more closed door hearings and back room deals.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:11 pm |
  61. lou

    How about show the proceedings on C-span like obama promised. Make a list available of which of our elected officials are meeting with lobbyists from the insurance and pharmacy organizations. I really believe americans aren't against giving medical care to their fellow americans...they are just fed up with all the sneaky dealings in Washington that leave us with watered down bills that cater to big industry.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:12 pm |
  62. Susan from Birmingham, Al.

    They should listen to the American people and kill it! Admit they made a
    mistake by writing a partisian bill and get on with fixing the economy.
    Americans are a lot more receptive when they're being listened to!

    January 20, 2010 at 4:14 pm |
  63. Bizz, Quarryville, Pennsylvania

    They're going to have to include the republicans into helping to pass a healthcare bill. That means it will favor the insurance companies and the drug companies so they don't lose any money and make more. The next time there will be a chance to get a good healthcare bill is when people wake up and don't have Health Care and realize they can no longer can afford it without having to move to another country. So that shouldn't take too long to happen.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:18 pm |
  64. Sali Raudabaugh

    The Democrats should throw out the Health Care Reform Bill. It's such a mess. Brokering deals behind closed doors, offering bribes to various groups, taxing citizens for not getting on board broke the deal for the American public. The whole congress should be thrown out of office. I'd like to see all American's vote every incumbent out of office. We need term limits. No one should serve more than 10 years in office. Congress does not work for the American citizens. They work for a small group of special interest groups that have unlimited funds. I can't stand any of them...it's all greed and how long they can retain their precious positions in congress. A bunch of crooks if you ask me.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:18 pm |
  65. Amber - Austin, TX

    Of course they should. If they don't, this will never pass. God help us all if it doesn't pass.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:18 pm |
  66. Donna Wisconsin

    Hurry up and do what you should have gotten done months ago. Republicans stand together. For once it would be refreshing to see Democrats stand together. Quit worrying about your assess and start doing what we sent you there to do–pass healthcare reform!

    January 20, 2010 at 4:22 pm |
  67. Rick Medina,OH

    Jack,

    Democrats should stop their posturing and bickering, and just pass the Senate bill 'as is.' If it needs changes, (and it does,) they have the rest of the year to do so. And many of the changes discussed will likely get Republican support. They only have a short window before Brown warms his seat.

    Rick, Medina, OH

    January 20, 2010 at 4:25 pm |
  68. J.L from NJ

    Break the bills down and pass parts that are not objectionale to either party....just get the ball rolling !!

    January 20, 2010 at 4:25 pm |
  69. Don from Belleville Ontario

    They should stop trying to fix the whole enchilada of health care by way of one gargantuan incomprehensible omnibus bill. Surely both parties can agree to try and genuinely reform one aspect of the existing health care mess at a time. Perhaps start by finding a way to bring at least basic coverage to most of those legal Americans now floundering without any.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:30 pm |
  70. honestjohn in Vermont

    They should just give it up now. Sure we need better Healthcare but not some watered down version.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:30 pm |
  71. etaylor100

    As of 18 hours ago, I am a former Democrat because Coakley's lost has shown what the Democrats have failed to do. When danger strikes to their cause, they hide in the corner (I'm talking to you Senator Reid). If the Democrats want to have any respect from the people who voted them into office, they have to be courageous and ruthless, not afraid of losing their Senate seat. That means passing the health care bill with a public option and antitrust laws before Scott Brown is seated. So what if the Republicans are going to call you cheaters and liars for jamming down a health care bill. Well the party of the Iraq War, WMDs, a bailout, and even a recess appointment to the UN should look at themselves before making those accusations. The long term good of getting everyone covered with health insurance and improving on the health of millions of Americans beats the short term gain of getting more votes in November. We want the health care bill now!

    January 20, 2010 at 4:30 pm |
  72. sc_morrow

    President Obama needs to proceed with bipartisanship I am a independent and i am glad to see that no longer can a bill be forced thru

    January 20, 2010 at 4:31 pm |
  73. Maria

    They should continue their meager attempts at reconciliation w/GOP (won't happen in the real world). They should ramp up their efforts to provide the votes they need to pass whatever they are calling a health bill. They should close loopholes, like the one created behind closed door with the unions. Unions have their uses, but no one blindly follows their recommennations anymore, people will chose their health and their families health over a union endorsement.

    And they should be out stumping at town meetings, or even home gatherings, to answer any and all questions people have or issues they are still scared about. The independent vote is going down the tubes if more press work isn't done. Talk to the public, not to senators and House. Those people have been heard from, we know what they want...but they have no clue what we need/want in a health bill. It's not too late. So what if a year-end deadline is missed. It's far better to get this right the first time. So the Dems should be talking to the nation, not acting like chickens who call out that the sky is falling!

    Maria

    Brunswick,MD

    January 20, 2010 at 4:31 pm |
  74. Terry, Chandler AZ

    They must make a commitment to a bi-partisan, full disclosure, non-secretive conclusion to this crisis. Rather than fight with the Republicans, they need to agree on some common solutions. Think about this Jack: The founding fathers formed this country by working together towards a common goals much easier than Congress can find a solution on health care. ThIS Congress embarass me every day.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:32 pm |
  75. Tommy Thomas in Abilene Tx.

    I think Congress should pass the Senate bill first and get it signed into law..Then, they must begin to address the economy, climate change, energy,etc., Incremental healthcare legislation( such as anti-trust provisions, tort reform and selling insurance across state lines) can probably??? be dealt with on a bi-partisan basis.Painfully, liberals will need to give up on a public option at the moment.We can't "throw out the baby with the bath water".After an entire year of wrangling, Dems would be toast if some health care bill is not passed..

    January 20, 2010 at 4:34 pm |
  76. David in Raleigh, NC

    Scrap the House and Senate versions and put together a bi-partisan bill.

    Split the 2000 page behemoth into manageable pieces that people can read and understand.

    Instead of going for a single payer system with all of the bells and whistles. Implement needed reforms including tort reform, previous condition, and other reforms that make sense.

    It never made sense why the Democrats wanted to trash health insurance for 80% of Americans who liked their health insurance to give health insurance to 20% of Americans who don't have health insurance.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:34 pm |
  77. Janne from NC

    They should scrap the omnibus bill and precede with the small bipartisan consumer protection measures that most Americans wanted in the first place.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:35 pm |
  78. Greg in Cabot, AR

    If they can't pass the whole package because of republican opposition and the threat of a filibuster, introduce new legislation that will address health care issues on a problem by problem basis with small steps and see if the republicans fight that too. If they do, it will become perfectly clear that republicans have NO plan and NO intentions of changing the status quo.

    Basically, if the bucket is too heavy to carry now that Democrats don't have the 60 votes, make more trips and force everyone to go on record with exactly "WHAT" they support instead of spouting rhetoric that protects their chances of reelection.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:38 pm |
  79. Ed from MD

    They should host a gun show with free beer and red meat outside the capital. While the republicans are enjoying themselves, ram that legislation through the anals of congress straight up to the people for which it serves. But lets hope it rains that day.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:40 pm |
  80. Mark

    Roll the damn thing up and have a ceremonial "Burning of the Bill". Leave our Health Care alone, Mr. President....that's what is going to cost you congress, one seat at a time.

    Mark
    Oklahoma City

    January 20, 2010 at 4:40 pm |
  81. mike from Portland Oregon

    It seems to me that almost everyone knows that he healthcare system is broken and wants it fixed, and yet, there is a lot of fighting. What I think needs to be done is for the issue to be brought out into the public, and for the current bill to be explained without political spin. Right now, I think most people are just confused as to what is happening and who can blame them. Negotiating behind closed doors only leads to speculation, and looking back in history, the government has not given the people much of a reason to trust it.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:41 pm |
  82. Michael Alexandria, VA

    They should do what Howard Dean said on another network – pass the Senate bill in the House and work out the bugs in reconciliation. It would be nice if the Republicans were dealing honestly on the issue – however they are not, so they deserve to be irrelevant and should be rolled by every trick in the book.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:43 pm |
  83. Martha Fontenot

    Reid and Pelosi should be voted out of their Congressional leadership roles. They created this mess by over spending, over-reaching, and being underhanded, and "undertruthful."

    Here's to the "Underdog," Scott Brown!

    January 20, 2010 at 4:46 pm |
  84. Myrtle, Key West

    They should tie Joe Lieberman up first, put Ether in all republicans hankerchiefs, then vote to pass the bill.

    Any more questions, Mr. Cafferty?

    January 20, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
  85. Peg from NY

    Pause, reflect, move on and begin anew.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
  86. Steve, NY

    Start all over. Give a copy of the health care to the Republicans and ask them to mark up the changes that they would propose and have a meeting on CNN for everybody to whatch.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:53 pm |
  87. John from Alabama

    Jack: If the Democrats have a moral compass the House of Representatives can pass the Senate version of the bill tomorrow. The Democrats will either pass health care reform an show there vision, or show American the cowards they are by roling over like the puppets they will become. Defeat in November 2010 will be worse, if the Democrats do not pass health care reform. Courage is needed to pass health reform into law, and courage is required by the majority party in Congress.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:54 pm |
  88. Kent

    Even a dumb ass like me knows what the Democrats should have been doing all along, and what they need to to. They need to focus on JOBS for the people and worry about health care after we get back to 5 % unemployment. They have wasted a whole year trying to please the King get a feather in his cap by passing health care. And, if Obama would quit campaigning on TV every other day and start working on getting jobs for the people, his popularity would probably be 70 %. I can't believe that as smart as he is, that he missed the boat.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:54 pm |
  89. Fed up in the Midwest

    How about we actually try bi-partisan legislation? Bring everyone in the room and get good reform done. If Dems want to recover instead of continue down hill into fall elections, they need to run to center and work with those Republicans that want to improve healthcare.

    Worst idea is to ram it thru now – either with temp Mass Senator or as cutdown budget 50/50 pass. That would ensure both houses turning in November.

    Elkhart, Indiana

    January 20, 2010 at 4:54 pm |
  90. Tom Mytoocents Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    Jack
    We kicked the petroleum oil can down the road in the 70s 80s and 90s until the cost of gasoline became so volitale we can no longer maintain a functioning economy. Our present employer based bed pan healthcare is corrupt to an unimaigable level. The current reform does not fix these problems and should abandoned and start over

    January 20, 2010 at 4:56 pm |
  91. Simonsays-Orlando

    They should proceed at their own risk. The Mass election proved that all the back room dealing with the unions and passing out pork to certain states will get them all thrown out.

    January 20, 2010 at 4:58 pm |
  92. Ann from Hampton, New Jersey

    Scrap it and start all over again. This time they should listen to the American people and not get together behind closed doors with only the Democrats in attendance.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:00 pm |
  93. Todd

    It seems by trying to move a mountain rather than a boulder at a time, the net result has been Pompeii revisited. The Congress collectively needs to grow up, put a stop to "legalized bribery" (aka lobbying) and put together a health care plan for the country that all the members of Congress can live with as well as mandating that they, Congress that is, have the same health care as their constituents. Our GDP can not withstand the health care staus quo!

    Todd
    Taunton, MA

    January 20, 2010 at 5:01 pm |
  94. George, Montrose,PA

    They should narrow the plan down to an unstandable 20 – 25 pages instead of the ball of confusion it has become. Controlling the out of control insurance companies would be a good start, then maybe finding some reasonable ways to expand medicare so that more AMERICANS can be covered. They could free themselves up to tackle some neglected issues, and perhaps take a second bite of the health care problem down the road.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:02 pm |
  95. Joe M

    Jack,

    How about they all take two weeks off and at the end of the two weeks just quit.

    Independent Joe (Mn)

    January 20, 2010 at 5:05 pm |
  96. Susan Frost

    At this point, it's too late to kick ass and take names, which should have happened months ago. LBJ showed this country what a little healthy blackmail could accomplish and the country is way better off for it. Now, just let the GOP take he blame when the insurance cartels go belly-up in a few years, which is bound to happen, and nationalize the industry. Then we'll get single-payer at long last.

    Susan
    Tuscaloosa AL

    January 20, 2010 at 5:07 pm |
  97. BILL, WI

    Cut the cost of health care first. Make prescription drugs more affordable. Allow consumers to buy insurance that will pay for services in any state no matter where they are when they need help (i.e. eliminate out of network). The government should set upper limits for the cost of medical procedures, take into accout regional cost of living factors, but set up a reimbursment plan to pay the hospitals and doctors for services. The democrats previous plan could have been instituted after costs were modified.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:09 pm |
  98. Peter Moscatello

    They should scrap the whole thing and instead of a marxist conversion we should be looking at free market based solutions. We middle class folks are taxed and punished enough.....

    January 20, 2010 at 5:09 pm |
  99. RichP the Pocono's

    Why don't they ask the people who put them there instead of 'assuming' which they have a tendency of doing with everything and we know what assuming does.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:10 pm |
  100. Wilhelm von Nord Bach

    PUNT!!!

    Obama and the Democrates have messed healthcare reform up SO BAD that even Liberals are disgusted and want NO part of it. IF they had just gone for a "Medicare for All" single payer plan at the beginning, like Congressman Anthony Weiner and Senator Bernie Sanders wanted, they would have had a LOT better chance of passing a bill than this cobbled up, totally confused, "let's try to please everyone" DISASTER they ended up with.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:12 pm |
  101. Jason from Vancouver

    The Democrats have always had the votes to pass health care. The problem is that the Democratic leadership shut out the public and Republicans–AND– the result is an upset public that just elected a Repulican in Massachusetts.

    Yes Mr Cafferty, Pigs do fly and hell is a very cold place today!

    January 20, 2010 at 5:13 pm |
  102. JENNA

    How should the Democrats proceed on health care now that they no longer have the votes to pass it in the Senate?

    They have 2 weeks to get this present senate version on the president's desk. All the items that need to be tweaked can be tweaked by follow up amendments.

    Democrats can pull a GOP move and have a secret vote in the middle of the night to get it done.

    Sounds good to me.

    Jenna
    Roseville CA

    January 20, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
  103. ric z.

    What should the dems do on healthcare? How about listen to what the majority of Americans want for a 'change'?

    I bet you're crying in your milk, Jack. Brown spanks moderator Gergen at the debate and now he proves what people like me have been saying about people like you all along. You can put lipstick on a pig, buddy, but it's still a pig. Health care reform? You bet. The proposed plan of the Senate's? No. And if you don't hear us now, wait until Nov. You'll really freak out. Listen up, politicians who don't usually listen at all. I'm an Independent and part of a new revolution that is not going to take any party's rhetoric. If you don't hear us now, you're tone deaf and your days are numbered.

    Ric Z.

    Santa Maria, Calif.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  104. Mari Fernandez, Utah

    The Democrats needs to review the Bill, and make sure the Public Option is included! And IF they are smart, they will have the 60 votes they need!

    Democrats: now is not the time for defeatism, that is what the GOP wants! Now is the time to come together, to be strong, to stand firm for the people who elected you and PASS Healthcare & Healthcare Reform!

    FIRED UP, READY TO GO!

    January 20, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  105. Karen (Virginia Beach, Virginia)

    Start over! But just wait they won't but will pass anything just to say that they did whether or not the public wants it and whether or not it (DOESN'T) reform health care.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:18 pm |
  106. Mike, Syracuse, NY

    Put it on the shelf and concentrate on the issues that they should have been working the last year; the economy, jobs, two wars, and fighting terrorism.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:20 pm |
  107. Steve Batts Edna Kansas

    The democrats found out fast that, appeasement, and negotiation with the insurance lobbyist backed republican party gets you nowhere. So they need to drop the appeasement and pass at all cost a public option medicare for all health care reform bill. They might lose control of the house and senate, but they will have saved many of Americans lives and income.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  108. Lori - PA

    Jack,

    Both the House and Senate should scrap their bills and start over. When they do start over, they need to include Republicans in the discussions, keep the process open, and refuse to allow deals to made in order to get votes. President Obama should also be invloved and make clear what his vision for healthcare reform is.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  109. William Tunnell

    Congress has tried many years to pass a health care and failed. Will they ever figure out that the people do not want government health care?

    January 20, 2010 at 5:28 pm |
  110. Barbara Actisdano

    DEMS, Should go a head and try and pass the bill immediately if they want anythin to get done.........they are slow at everything!
    Nothing gets done with the Congress, they only worry about their bonus they get each Jan. When the Seniors never got a
    raise at all,but a raise in their Medicare Premius!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    thank you for listening,
    Barbara from Sebring, FL.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:29 pm |
  111. Judy

    I am a Democrat and we should drop health care reform, period. Obviously, the Republicans are playing obstructionist and don't want the insurance companies and the pharmaceutical companies to be held responsible for killing off the poor and unemployed. Who needs these people anyway? This country doesn't deserve the effort the Dems have put forth. If the Repubicans had REALLY wanted reform, they would have come up with alternatives to that which they objected.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:30 pm |
  112. Dan, Chantilly VA

    Drop it, drop it now, and pray that by the time 2012 comes around we'll all have forgotten about it. Worked for Clinton in '96.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  113. Remo, from beautiful downtown Pflugerville, Texas

    Jack, now that the so called "deadline" is moot, scrape the pork barrel ridden pice of garbage and start over. No rush, just a "good" well thought out, logically funded, health care to all bill. Not this piece of tripe that has so many flaws, loopholes, and down right in your pocket clauses that no one in their right mind wants. Let's face it, this bill was ill concieved, poorly contrived, and impossible to call fair, honest, and in the interest of the people. If it's taken since Truman, it can take a few months or another year to get done.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:38 pm |
  114. Frank

    I don't know what else the White House needs to see that the people don't want this bill. Maybe we need pitch-forks and torches lining Pennsylvania Ave. This election should be a message to all, both Democrats and Republicans that Americans want people in charge that will do their job....which is listening and following the will of the people that put them there. When they want to pass a measure and they hear "NO" from the citizens, that's the cue to stop. It's not rocket science.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:41 pm |
  115. Gary H. Boyd

    Go back under their flat rock and hide. This was a miscalculation from day one. Economic times did not allow for approval of such an incredibly expensive proposal in the first place. They should accept that reality and focus on incentives that create jobs, jobs, jobs.

    Gary H. Boyd in Scottsdale, Arizona

    January 20, 2010 at 5:43 pm |
  116. james steadman

    The Democrats should take a deep breath, consider what is the most pragmatic yet meaningful Healthcare/Insurance reform bill they can put together an let the votes fall as they may. If the Republicans are more interested in stopping the president rather than helping put together a bill that will help the poorest of our citizens get access to healthcare, then they will have to face the voters as well.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:43 pm |
  117. Nicholas

    Why would anyone in Massachusetts want Healtcare refrom that is modeled after Romney/Patrick's Healthcare reform. It has been an abysmal failure! Having to buy induvidual Health insurance for myself and my family, Last year my family's Health Insurance bill went up 53%. We need REAL healthcare reform, and it starts with the cost of prescriptions, and all the damn advertisments they feel obligated to pedal to me during sunday football. Being in advertising,

    I know how much it costs... But if I need a prescription I want my doctor's recomendation. I have to mute the commercials to every sport's game or risk my 5year old singing repeatedly... "VIVA Viagra!"

    All that being said, I will admit that I'll be the first person to recant this rant, if one of those drug company's came to my agency looking for an ad. To quote Ty Law, "a man's gotta eat."

    January 20, 2010 at 5:43 pm |
  118. Paulette in Dallas,PA

    Give it a rest. Trash this makeshift monstrosity that the people don't want and start all over again – the right way. Haste makes waste. Set up a study Commission that will take into account all aspects of healthcare and have the people on this Commission be composed of multidisciplinary specialists. Forget letting a bunch of political quacks hurriedly throw together a bone to throw to the masses. We need healthcare reform but we need it the right way.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:45 pm |
  119. Brian Delray Beach, FL

    The election of Brown is a gift to the Republicans and a bonanza to loads of Democrats who did not want to go into 2012 with this Bill on their back. The American people that have and can afford health insurance could care less whether anyone else is covered. The folks without a plan are just screwed until the insurance companies really harpoon us with even higher premiums and fewer eligible purchasers. Our elected career politicians like Senator Aetna is just tickled with the prospect that reform is probably dead. To some audiences Democrats can claim "I tried but the bill just can't be passed now. Maybe later on." Their "buds" in the insurance companies get a wink. Note how Evan Bayh of Indiana kept his head well down since it was reported that his wife makes 2MIL a years as a "consultant" to the industry. All is well again because business as usual has been restored.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:46 pm |
  120. Antonio from Washington D.C.

    "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dreams shall never die."

    -Edward Kennedy

    January 20, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
  121. Al Jackson

    The Massachusetts results may turn out to be the best thing that could have happened to the Democrats... if they are willing to listen. They lost one Senate seat last night, but if they scale back their ambitions, focus on insurance reforms and truly seek a bipartisan solution - rather than simply a victory over the GOP - last night's loss could prevent a much larger defeat in November.

    Alexandria, VA

    January 20, 2010 at 5:48 pm |
  122. john ....... marlton, nj

    Fold the tent, pack up the snake oil, and let kennedy roll over in his grave, at least Kennedy will be pointed in the right direction.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:48 pm |
  123. Andy in Vancouver, BC

    Who knows, I'm still trying to figure out why a senator from a state with more liberal health care than what's being proposed in the senate would ruin it for every other state in the union.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:50 pm |
  124. Katja in Florida

    They need to go back to the drawing board and do it right. They need to come up for something for ALL Americans and not just 30 million. They seem to have forgotten that there are 385+ million of us.
    As the owner of a "mom and pop" kind of business, I can't afford the plan they have now. I can't afford $700 a month insurance. I can give someone a job for that money. I'd rather put someone to work. Oh, and where is the transparency? It must be behind those closed door sessions.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:51 pm |
  125. Diane Dagenais Turbide

    Bottom line : the American people need health benefits and protection. Government on behalf of the american people has to face the healthcare lobbyist industries!

    January 20, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
  126. ken, nj

    The dems should 86 the health care bill and introduce a bill that reforms health care and lowers premium costs. The u.s. is ranked #1 for health care costs, and 37th for quality. A good start would be to remove the antitrust exemption for insurance companies, freeze premiums, no mandates, and no medicaid for the 15 million uninsured.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:54 pm |
  127. Adam Simi Valley, CA

    They need to immediatiely stop the closed door negotiation nonesense and involve Republicans to be part of the process rather than spectators. There needs to be cooperation. Even Republicans agree the system needs to be fixed, but the Dems didn't want to hear any of their suggestions. The people's answer from the den of the liberal Lion was, welcome aboard Senator Brown. The bills, house and senate, are disasters in the making. Everyone agrees that healthcare needs to be improved, but only 35% of the people think Congress's way is the right way. Webb, like all smart politicians, is trying to distance himself from this radioactive bill now that he has been given an out. I hope those guys have a drawing board handy.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:54 pm |
  128. Wilhelm von Nord Bach

    PUNT!!!

    healthcare reform was DOOMED from the beginning when Obama and the Democrates tried to form a "something for everyone" compromise. so called "conservatives" were NEVER going to support it and now after almost a year of the "sausage making" they have a bill that Obama's "liberal base" and union supporters sees as a sellout to the health insurace industry.

    they ended up with a scheme that is SO convoluted and complicated that the average American can't understand it. add in the out and out bribery of Nebraska Senator Ben Nelson's "Cornhusker Kickback" and Louisiana Senator Mary Landrieu's "Louisiana Purchase" to get their votes and every voter in every other state is hopping mad.

    they should have just gone for a "Medicare for All" single payer system as advocated by Congressman Anthony Weiner and Senator Bernie Sanders in the first place as it would have had a much better chance of passing. Republicans and the health insurance industry were going to fight it fang and claw in any case BUT the average American would probably be an favor of it or at least UNDERSTAND it.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:55 pm |
  129. A. Owens

    Massachusetts voters that voted for Brown were immature and short sited– If you think a junior senator can make waves in Washington –think again..There's a reason Kennedy was the "Lion" - He earned it over the decades of his service.

    Further, MA voters (and the nation) already know that Obama is working on the change we elected him on– but with all the problems he inherited we know too that it takes years to fix.. Healthcare is one sixth of our economic picture– so we have to put the process into place to fix it now or the other domino's just don't fall into place 4-8 years down the road. Let's be honest here. We know Obama is doing what is necessary to get us on track for the long haul. Let's give him the support and muster the patience to give him the time he needs to get us there. This is the leader of our next generation– let's wake up and smell the flowers before we destroy it all. This is our time– Let's stand with our leader. Let the House pass the current Senate bill that only needs 51 votes. We have to fix what needs to be fixed along the way. We have 3-4 years to figure it out before its signed into law. We need to grow up, focus and stay the course. Its called being a responsible adult.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:56 pm |
  130. DeeDee

    If the Democrats would pass the Senate's version of the current bill, this questions would be moot, but because the Progressives in our party don't understand how the game is played, we'll get nothing.

    January 20, 2010 at 5:58 pm |
  131. Nevin

    I didn't realize just how bad the system was until I needed it. In January 2009, I was diagnosed with a mild skin condition and was prescribed a half-year's worth of creams. Unfortunately each dose was expensive, and after 2 months my insurance decided to not cover it anymore. I got cheaper stuff that didn't work. Fast forward 10 months later, it got much worse and I'm fighting a tougher and even more expensive battle (possible skin cancer). While reform might not be able to help me in time, it will help others that face a similar situation.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:01 pm |
  132. ran utah

    "Nanny, nanny , boo, boo! You don't have the votes no more." This is what our government has come to. I want out! Yea! Out of this baby ridden country. The so called leaders of this country are so, I mean soooo.... self centered on who has or doesn't have the votes. We the people ( that sounds familiar) could careless who holds all the power cards in this game of "spades" we call life. We want people not pollitical groups or powerful corporations to lead us. We want our lives and our financial lives to matter to these ding dongs. We want a congress that is of substance not of cream corn. We the people are not stupid, maybe a bit gullible, but not stupid. After George W., we the people are even smarter. Mr. Leaders of our nation, "You're Fired!". Clean out your desk by the end of the day. Oh yea! Could you possibly solve the healthcare reform before you go? Thanks from, "We The People"

    January 20, 2010 at 6:08 pm |
  133. Jerry Alpharetta, GA

    I would suggest that they procede openly (aka transparent), honestly (no state is givne greater benefits than others) and with integrity (get rid of the pork). Lastly, act like a Democrat and take a sincere interest in assuring that all hard working Americans are treated with dignity and respect and not as a means to get to a political end.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:12 pm |
  134. Joe CE

    Force Republicans to fillisbuster, this will kill their momentum. Assuming that they do fillususter, split the Bills into small segements most of which would pass easily. The Republican can enjoy their victory (like the Dems) bur they better not count chickens for November beacuse the Dems no longere hold sole responsibiliy for getting things done.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:14 pm |
  135. Angie

    If the law permitted, I would say take the Health Care Reform with the Public Option that passed in the house and put that one through. It was way better than the Senate version, which kept changing and compromising to appease the Republicans who don't want Health Care Reform anyway. And if it doesn't go through, at least they tried to put the Better Health Care Reform into bill.

    Future Generations will suffer because Insurance companies got what they wanted, No Health Care Reform at all.

    Well done, Well done.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:18 pm |
  136. Mike R.

    as they said on Bill Moyers journal on PBS Americans forget to easy.
    They forgotten the last eight years and the mess that brought us (fighting wars with borrowed money etc). And I think Americans are to impatient. Barely Obama is in the white house and here people want him to do wonders. Did'nt he said in his inaugortaional speach,that it was time to pick ourselfs up, dust ourselfs off and begin the work. So I was out of work, reinvented myselfs and started my own little "enterprise" and do good so far. Boy poor TedKennedy turns in his grave and he would be disappointed in the Massachusets people.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:21 pm |
  137. Lance, Ridgecrest, Ca

    Jack, they SHOULD suspend the process until the newly elected Senator from Mass. is sworen in. What they WILL do is figure out a way to continue to RAM this bill through the Congress in spite of what their constituents want, because they simply DO NOT GET IT! They will pay for their arrogance, but then, they are convinced they know better than the American people. Democratic Health Care is a FACT, and they will do anything they can, by hook or crook, to get this bill to Obama's desk. Bet on it!

    January 20, 2010 at 6:21 pm |
  138. Scott Stodden

    They should do what Senator Webb and President Obama said and that is to suspend health care until Senator Brown is sworn in and seated and this should be done ASAP. After Sentor Brown is sworn in then they should create a new bi partisan bill, working with Republicans and Democrats alike, you hear me Mr Obama and come up with a affordable health care that everyone including Republican's can be proud of and truly mean that statement. I never agreed with the Senate version of health care because it has no public option Mr Reid and without a public option there can never be real affordable health care, maybe we'll see health care America when Mitt Romney becomes President in 2012!

    Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)

    January 20, 2010 at 6:21 pm |
  139. Ed from Montana

    I think that now they'll have to let the Republican's Big Health Care and Big Pharma lobbyists help write the Health Care Bill. No more of having just the lobbyists from the Democrats have their way with us, lobbyists from both parties can now take part in the abuse.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
  140. J. reed

    Dear Jack,

    I watch CNN all the time, on the day after the big loss in Mass. , it really surprises me the that the DNC and no one at the DNC has ever said that our sad state of affairs are from a little longer than just the
    Bush/Chenny years , I have been around for 60+ years , allways vote for the man not the party.....truthfully, I,m really concerned about my grandchildrens future if we dont get some honest , hardworking people in office ............where do we find them?????

    thanks

    j. reed

    January 20, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
  141. Mike R.

    and in addition to my prior comment, when people complain about the spending of this admonistration, why didn't they complain the last eight years of spending and borrowing (especially from China)??
    There you see how people forget.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:35 pm |
  142. Lisa in Ga

    Jack, a win in Mass. really does not matter as far as health care is concerned. If the Dems couldn't get it passed fillibuster proof, electing a neo-con republican that even Glenn Beck is skeptical of is no big news, Dems should be more concerned with a blue state turning red.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:41 pm |
  143. John

    The democrats should do us all a favor and take it out of the political system as Obama SAID he would when he first started this process.

    We need the best and brightest minds on this complex issues instead of corrupt lawyers and self interested politicians playing politics as usual with our lives and our futures.

    John
    San Jose, CA

    January 20, 2010 at 6:41 pm |
  144. Jim - Michigan

    They need to toss it in the garbage. Before throwing 30 million people into health care, fix the waste, prove you can save the 800 billion dollars wasted each year – THEN go ahead and make it universal.

    Most people arguing for reform at all cost are those who want it for free and know they will never pay a dime for it. This country has an entitlement mentality, you dont work, you dont contribute to the common good and are dependent on public assistance and whine constantly about what others owe you.

    Tax payers vote too, hopefully our politicians recognize that now.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:42 pm |
  145. southerncousin

    Just keep ramming it down the throats of the American people. Gibbs, the Obama mouthpiece, already started making the excuses today. They just keep lying and deluding themselves. Hopefully, we impeach the skunk and the slimy critters inhabiting the White House.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:42 pm |
  146. frank

    We need a public option. The private insurance market is not working. 30% goes to overhead. High salaries for a bunch of desk bound managers. Especially Blue Cross / Blue Shield. Which is a non profit. But others are just as bad. What is needed is a sleaze tax, 90% over $1 million in salary / benefits / stock options. Chasing Wall Street forecasts has got to stop. Its health care.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:44 pm |
  147. Monroe

    The American CITIZEN is "pissed". No more "fun and games". This is no longer a Republican or Democrat issue. Scrap the bill and start over. NO: pork, gifts, lobbyists, unions, friends, family, special interest groups, party, wall street etc. It is about the American CITIZEN – STUPID. "DO YOU HEAR ME NOW?"

    January 20, 2010 at 6:45 pm |
  148. Linda in Arizona

    I said months ago when Obama was busy tossing away every meaningful reform to big Pharma and the insurance industry that they should start over from scratch. Single payer for all, or nothing. Nothing else is real health care reform. Do I think we're going to be heard? NO.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:51 pm |
  149. Laura

    Whatever option is the quickest...I am so sick of hearing about healthcare.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:54 pm |
  150. Mical

    Jack,

    Dems need to simplify the health care plan. Offer a medicare plan or similar to those who can't afford normal health care or are provided by employers. This "basic plan" would offer low cost health care, low cost prescriptions and have a "no previous exclusion clause". When others see how cost efficient this system could be, they'll jump ship to a more economical version. One things ALL Americans like – low cost benefits.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:54 pm |
  151. Ben from Boston

    Jack,

    The Democrats should slow the process down - put it all on C-Span and gradually explain each piece to the American public as they proceed through the . This is a lot of work and will take a lot of time, but that is what they are in Congress to do and it is what the President promised.

    What the Democrats should not do is to have the House pass the Senate version quickly before there is thorough explanation of the parts and assessment of both the costs and sources of revenue.

    There should be no special deals with any group. All persons should be subject to exactly the same rules - no special treatment by state or membership status (as in unions, for example).

    Although a Democrat, I voted for Brown yesterday mainly because of concerns over the health care bill. I was not angry, but very concerned that even the Senators and Representatives are not reading nor understanding the details of what they are voting.

    January 20, 2010 at 6:57 pm |
  152. Jim

    Jack,

    The Senate plan is dead. The Dems should salvage all of the good parts and throw away the silliness and pork, then try again maybe with a few Republicans coming along for the ride.

    Jim
    Reno, Nevada

    January 20, 2010 at 6:59 pm |
  153. HUBERT BERTRAND

    JACK: It's a shame that our politicians are so divided. We all lose out.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:02 pm |
  154. docb

    Jack,
    They should listen to the people and what they want...Vast majorities want HC Reform – just not what the Senate cobbled together for their donors!

    This needs to get done but looking at the lack of political will apparent by the obstructionist repubs and the knuckle dragging Dems...It may take someone with more between their ears than we have elected to Congress in years.

    Though many want to blame Obama, I would like for them give me one word that he has written in this bill...This signals a' buyin' for the lies pushed by the MSM and republicans...Meaning the dems have no control!

    January 20, 2010 at 7:04 pm |
  155. steve- virginia beach

    They should abandon their socialist agenda and stop creating more dependents to support it. Instead they need to address the underlying problems like real problem-solvers do- excessive unemployment; illegal aliens who work for pennies on the dollar then don't pay their healthcare bills while taking jobs from citizens, depressing wages, and sapping our economy; excessive immigration; lack of jobs for US sitizens and lawful immigrants; needlesly importing cheap foriegn labor on visas; fraud within the healthcare system; junk lawsuits/cost of liability insurance for doctors; etc., etc., etc.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:08 pm |
  156. John in Fort Lauderdale

    It will be interesting to see how Pelosi and Reid keeps their part in line on health care. The carrots are fallow in the fields. What's next – club them over the head and drag them by the hair into the backroom for more "incentives?" Why is the party leadership reticent about addressing the $100 trillion dollars in unfunded Social Security liabilities?

    January 20, 2010 at 7:11 pm |
  157. Alex in Wisconsin

    If the Democrats have learned anything, they have learned not to pander to the conservatives. As far as i see it, there are only two options. They can pass either the Senate version or a bare-bones version. Either way, the Democrats are going to take a huge hit politically for not getting a comprehensive health care bill through in the first year. President Obama will survive the hit, Democratic members of Congress, Beware.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:12 pm |
  158. Mark C. Kennedy, Hinesville, GA

    I voted for Obama. Not only was it the logical choice, but I was actually drawn to the message of hope and change. I don't believe for a moment that Obama's message or direction has changed. Our current political climate at the Congressional level is one of greed and power – self indulgence. There simply is no accountability. So Jack, here’s my question to you:

    Do you and your fellow journalists at CNN think we'll ever get to see our federal government actually work for us and get health care reform right?

    Please air your response or on this blog!

    January 20, 2010 at 7:16 pm |
  159. Michael Vento

    I believe that it's absurd that the general public advocates that they wanted change from this White House and ignore the fact that the Republican party in congress has stopped this change at every opportunity. They forced the Democrats in power to make some bad decisions in their efforts to fix and change the turmoil they faced when Obama was elected. If the general public is trying to send a message, they are not going to get it by what took place in Mass. The Republicans are synonimous with big business, the rich, and statis quo. The only way for change is to get rid of the conservative Democrats and utilize a true majority so the stupid concessions made to certain states in this health bill could have been avoided.
    By the way, I consider myself as an Independent,

    Thank You

    January 20, 2010 at 7:16 pm |
  160. Kharii Brodie

    THE LESSON: The lost in Massachusetts should be a wake up call not to dismiss health care reform but to demonstrate that a house divided by it self cannot stand. There is one thing about the Republican party that can be admired, if a Republican tell a lie the whole party stands with unity by that person; not so with Democrats. With the Democrats even it is the truth the do not demonstrate the unity. Those Democrat members of the senate who sided with the Republican they gave credit to the Republican indirectly in the lie the Republican perpetrated. Furthermore, it makes the Democratic administration look weak. The fact they took so long to make up their minds made the public doubt that Democratic know what they are doing. Democrats are looking in decisive. The public gave majority vote for a reason. The reason was to just do it without argument. The more arguments people get turn off. The people gave what was needed but Democrats do not use it. This Is The Great Lesson To Learn.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:19 pm |
  161. Mike

    We have just witnessed the Boston Tea Party of 2010. How ironic that the political upset happened in Massachusetts where the original tea party took place plus the fact that Senator elect Brown will take the place of Sen. Kennedy who so passionate about healthcare. The health care bill is DEAD as it should be. Now maybe Congress will throw the two bills out and focus on bits and pieces of what is wrong with our health care and not throw out the baby with the bath water with whole new all encompasing changes. The people have spoken and will coninue to do so. Congress wake up and get your heads out of the sand

    January 20, 2010 at 7:20 pm |
  162. Cliff Glass - Rego Park, NY

    Jack,

    The Republican victory in Massachusetts will only aid the passage of health care reform.
    Democrats only need to repackage the original bill into dozens of individual amendments that have near universal public support – such as – allowing persons with pre-existing conditions to retain their insurance , allowing children to stay on their parents' policies longer, and eventually extending Medicare to those 50 and older. Steamrollers are not racing cars, slow, but steady is the only way forward.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:21 pm |
  163. RK

    Curious how all of the outspoken democratic Senators that now say we should take a step back on healthcare have their Senate terms ending in 2010. (i.e. Webb) This is clear to me that their Senate career is more important to them than the legislation.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:22 pm |
  164. Thom Richer

    They now need to show some backbone and proceed with more determination than ever and stick to their conviction that it is right for Americans, simply because it is. Proceed without further compromise as they have compromised enough. Whether it is passed or not is no longer the issue for Dems. The issue is now whether they further destruct for political reasons and lose without honor as those, who vote against the American majority by voting against health care, out of corporate and political greed. Let the blame and disgrace be put squarely on the shoulders of the Republican Party where it belongs and let history be written accordingly. Let history show a brave fight by the Democrats without compromise and dereliction of duty.

    Thom Richer
    Negaunee, MI

    January 20, 2010 at 7:22 pm |
  165. Jasmine in Germany

    The masses should be better educated and really be able to understand that the US health care system is one of textbook capitalistic corruption, the most expensive, yet worst systems within the first world communities, extremely behind the times (doesn't benefit the people enough, but the fat cats love it). What part don't they understand? You want to become a third world nation? Keep it up. You want to bring the health and general standard of living in the US up to par and into the 21st Century? Support your current President, he's got the big picture.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:22 pm |
  166. Steve Tingen

    Hi Jack , Agreed someone does need to step up to the plate and help the orphans of Haiti. The United States has done this , and a lot of other countries around the world should be able to help these children also . England , France , Germany , not to mention South America . I am sure there are families all over the world that have what it takes to be great foster parents to these children ! Thanks Steve

    January 20, 2010 at 7:24 pm |
  167. Kharii Brodie

    United States of America should realize that health care should be apart of homeland security. I agree with scanning someone before they go on a plane whether for domestic or foreign travel. Crazy people can act from anywhere at anytime. People blame President Obama for the underwear bomber but who is going to be blame when scanning a person cannot detect deadly germ warfare. Germs can be induced into the body and do not get contagious for hours. Enough time to get into the U.S. It possible that if some people who were exposed to the contagious germs if the had health insurance it would be discovered before it got so bad they carry it to the emergency room. By waiting too late to get care it could become a pandemic. It is time we start spending on the right things that bring construction and not destruction. We need to stop being patriotic to our pockets and be patriotic to the United States of America that protects us all with majority of people from poor and middle class neighbor hood so the Republicans can get richer.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:29 pm |
  168. NC Jeff

    They should throw it all out and start over. No back room deals, no lobbyists.

    I think all incumbents have to go prior to anything requiring common sense to get done

    January 20, 2010 at 7:31 pm |
  169. Johnny Chagdes (from Los Angeles)

    If Reid and Pelosi want to help America with the Health Care Bill, they should act intelligently and make an effort to understand what Americans value in the current plan and reduce it from the size of a Redwood to the size of a sampling. In other words, make the new bill about 100 pages and get something going.

    Legislative Action Plan:

    First off, list all of the points in the plan and get feedback on what is most important, prioritize the list, and put all minor issues in a "parking lot" for future consideration.

    Secondly, provide the feedback in a transparent manner back to the representatives and senators to provide to their constituents to garner their approval.

    Finally, implement a smaller Bill to get the initial traction going.

    I would bet my future earnings, that if the new Bill only had one provision, for example, that insurance companies could not drop existing clients for prior unknown conditions, it would be a major improvement and the American Base would be ecstatic over the first step.

    The Democrats in power have failed by allowing scope creep to make this a 2000 + paged bill that they are not capable of managing ... it shouldn't take a PHD too understand what you are taught in undergraduate Project Management class 101 ... define your goal and obtain stakeholder acceptance.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:32 pm |
  170. andre

    Maybe we will get a bill that makes sence,such as lower cost by insurance regulation with profit limits with real insurance, not medicaid, tort reform and universal eligibility without back door deals
    with tax breaks for the unions.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:33 pm |
  171. jim Blevins

    No. The ultimate problem with health care is that it is financed by insurance companies. Without the "public option" to keep the insurance companies in line, costs will continue to go up. There is no longer any chance of getting the public option passed. When costs get high enough that lots of middle class are dying for lack of coverage, people will be willing to fix the problem. Until then, there is no reason to make the insurance people even more obscenely rich.

    Jim, Craig, CO

    January 20, 2010 at 7:33 pm |
  172. Luci - Illinois

    They should vote in the Public Option and let the Filabustering begin. It will only show the ignorance of the Repub Party and that they could give a darn for the ordinary people that need healthcare.
    All they do is lie about it and the people are easily led down their path of lies.
    Why are you taking the word of a Repub poll. I never see a Democrat poll. It is usually Wall St Journal, how much more to the Right can you go.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:33 pm |
  173. Gwen

    Jack: Perhaps the Democrats save their health care bill IF they could make the change to add all senators and congress to the same plan that they are putting together for the public and get them out of the Large and full healthcare plan that they so enjoy (for life mind you) and let them join all Americans. The difference in money saved alone would benefit the costs that is involved with the new proposed plan. We the tax payers pay them to work for us but not to gain so wealthy off of our backs. Act responsible and the Dems and Rep will gain a lot of respect. No wonder the public is so angered with Washington, don't need to be a rocket science to figure this would help to gain Americans respect. Thank you for ;listening.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:34 pm |
  174. Stephen Charchuk

    Its a great shame that America is not actually a democracy. Universal health care wasn't imposed in Canada, it was voted on by all. Your system is so unnecessarily complex and in the end gets nothing truly important done. I feel sorry for you.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:36 pm |
  175. pat in michigan

    cancel it all.stop all efforts to help Americans.Next cancel Welfare and food stamps. Don't provide for the common good.Next give more aid to the banks to help with executive bonuses. Finance the downfall and blocking of green industry that could help ease the phony climate change.Lastly send the rest of our jobs overseas and fund their development.Don't forget the import duty fee exemption. that should do it for now.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:37 pm |
  176. Mike in St. Louis

    With Scott Brown's miraculous election maybe God has a hand in saving America from inadvertent self-destruction. God Bless America!

    January 20, 2010 at 7:44 pm |
  177. Ted

    Just watched Wolfs interview with Robert Gibbs...Wolf had him but let him talk his way out of the question..Wolf folded like a cheap suit. Shame on you wolf. You had your chance to get the truth out of him ,but you let him off the hook..A good reporter would have kept after him until he could lie no more...Next time nail his lying butt Wolf....This has nothing to do with the question,but I had to get the message out to him.

    January 20, 2010 at 7:48 pm |
  178. griz

    1. do it in the open
    2. be honest about the cost
    3. don't shift the cost to the state

    January 20, 2010 at 8:17 pm |
  179. Than - Broken Arrow, OK

    They should hope one of the Republicans is disgraced out of office by some sort of scandal. Other than that there's nothing they can do, healthcare just dies, a 'pre-existing conditional vote'. How apropos.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:19 pm |
  180. JP hill

    Obama is folding. So much for change.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:19 pm |
  181. Neil Donovan

    From Salem, MA USA

    Simple ...change the senate Cloture Rule to something normal ...such as, a simple majority can stop a filibuster.

    Neil

    January 20, 2010 at 8:20 pm |
  182. jwmark

    Fly here, fly there, speech, speech, speech. Belated advice to Obama. Stay in DC and GOVERN!
    After Brown's victory we must consider if Obama is a lame duck. It's panic city now at the White House and it should be. With 41 constant Pug no votes is there any hope that this supposed progressive lion we elected will ever get anything from Congress. Not much, consider that Obama's effective presidency ended in 1 short year.

    John Mark
    Portland, Oregon

    January 20, 2010 at 8:20 pm |
  183. Nora

    They should let the American people know that it's going to be Republican business as usual. More getting nothing done, by blocking everything that could be done. How soon we forget.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
  184. Susan FL & IL

    If it were me........I would just sit out my term.....collect my pay........retire well.......and not give a shit. It is impossible to please the American people.

    The President of the U.S. is not paid enough to take all this pressure. It is impossible to please people. Who on earth wants that job......it has to be the worst job in the U.S. When he tries to do something good for the people like Health Care Reform, big corporations (Ins, pharma, for-profit health companies, etc) put up so much money that ... they sway the American people to their side. The American people are so easy to sway. Oh well.....it is the people who lose not Obama.

    I ask the people of the U.S.
    Who would you prefer to be
    The President of the U.S. or CEO of GoldmanSachs who makes millions in one year. Sure that CEO does not have the pressures that the President of the U.S. has.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
  185. Jesse Warren

    They should pass the same health plan they have – free until they come up with an alterative that the people vote on. One that is in plain English. One that has no provisions for illegals. Then we can take 2 years to review and approve it, not the senate or the house. They are so out of touch.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
  186. Cathryn Lea

    Regardless of what our new tasteless Massachusetts senator says, the republicans, which he is glued to, will not let any health care reform pass. The House of Representatives should pass the senate bill with some provision for future reconciliation agreement. This is the best way for the people of the nation to get reform. Maybe then less than 45,000 less people will die each year because they lack health insurance.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
  187. tracy

    gee, here's a novel idea: listen to The People!
    How about this one: Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and the gang refrain from the insults and derogatory descriptions of the Independent voters participating in Tea Party protests and sit down and listen to what they have to say.
    Brilliant, huh?

    January 20, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
  188. Ryan

    If the Dems want any chance at healthcare reform, they're going to have to come up with a better strategy than pointing their fingers at the insurance companies. Tell them to start picking apart the pharmaceutical industry; there's plenty of corruption there at taxpayer expense. Don't even bother with the public option – it's likely not going to happen, and if it ever does, it won't be anytime soon.

    Ryan
    Atlanta, GA

    January 20, 2010 at 8:22 pm |
  189. Ed Fertik

    Jack
    They should NOT proceed with reform becuase it isn't reform. Since when do we call higher cost, lower quality and more red tape "reform"? Americans want this to stop and to move instead towards a plan that is BETTER and fair and put together in an open and transparent way. Remember that broken promise our President made?

    Ed

    January 20, 2010 at 8:22 pm |
  190. Erick

    The dems in the house need to hold their noses and vote for the bill that the senate passed, because doing nothing would be a tragesty to 30 million Americans, not to speak of all of those kids and adults who have preexisting conditions.

    The republicans have done such a great job at mischaracterizing this bill that people are screaming and complaining that they don't want it without knowing all the facts (this includes some of our lawmakers and political pundits).

    January 20, 2010 at 8:22 pm |
  191. Malcolm

    The Democrats should simply drop Health Care. It is clear that Obama and the Democratic Party are incapable of handling such important legislation.
    By bargaining away everything that was meaningful in the Bill, we are left with an empty shell that does little more than guarantee new customers to an already corupt system.
    The "Can't Win them all" attitude is exactly why we need a leader who will listen to and fight for what we expect from our Government. Obama clearly doesn't get what we are sayig.
    We (Democrats) made a mistake.
    Perhaps we can try again in 2012 with Hillary.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:23 pm |
  192. Don Thompson

    Democrats should first withdraw the bill. Then they should reintroduce individual portions (prohibition of denial for preexisting conditions, etc.); and force a vote on each portion. If democrats chose only those portions popular with the public, they could come out as winners as republicans would be forced to vote against the public's interest.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:23 pm |
  193. Jerry

    Jack what do we have to do to get this through their heads, This is not a priority and never has been,85% of Americans are happy with their health care.Work on helping that 15% witout costing the rest of us trillions in taxes.Its never going to get any better than what it is right now.. Drop it Jerry/ Iowa

    January 20, 2010 at 8:24 pm |
  194. Hector Del Valle

    If I had a job, I wouldn't be depressed and need to use medical care...Tell Congress to stop Healthcare reform and focus on JOBS!

    January 20, 2010 at 8:24 pm |
  195. Susan Meyer

    Everyone should start all over on healthcare reform.

    Republicans and Democrats should be equally involved. No backroom deals, no bribes to special interest groups, it should be fair to all citizens.

    We want: coverage for all with NO pre-existing conditions, malpractice reform, insurance sold across state lines, fair to all ages of people.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:24 pm |
  196. Ed

    I think the people have spoken. Congress needs to pass a 'bare-bones health care' or some type of scaled down health insurance reform consisting of small, common sense things that most Americans agree on like preventing insurance companies from canceling people's coverages if they have a preexisting condition, etc. etc. Only then could the Democrats could possibly get some bipartisan support.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:24 pm |
  197. Maleka

    That's easy. Just do as the Republicans would have done and keep pressing forward and pass the healthcare bill by any means necessary. The state of Massachusetts does not speak for us all.

    Maleka
    Florida

    January 20, 2010 at 8:24 pm |
  198. aristocratic anarchist

    they should deny all shareholders who speculate off inflated health care costs parisitically skimming what they had nothing to do with..i mean, we (the tax payers) paid for most of the research and development regarding healthcare discoveries and the 2 party monopoly tries to sell us the benefit of acceptiing shareholder welfare as justified cost increases..where does the bogus capital gains tax breaks from subsidies go ..they certainly dont go into the banks so there is entreprenurial loans available for the noble uses of modern advanced discoveries presently stolen by repressive venture capitalist.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:24 pm |
  199. Pradeep

    What does it take Obama and the Dems to understand that Healthcare is being pushed at the wrong time. Right now its jobs and Homes and budget. Decrease the deficit, increase the jobs and stabilize the real estate and then talk about healthcare and people will support.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:25 pm |
  200. Bernadette

    The Democrats should allow the Republicans to filabuster (for months) until the Public figures it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    January 20, 2010 at 8:25 pm |
  201. Kfall

    The deme would not say it, but the voters of Mass are egoist, they have healthcare insurance, start thinking about the rest of the country.
    The house passes it and let's go to reconciliation, the more it's out there the worst it's gonna look

    January 20, 2010 at 8:25 pm |
  202. John from NC

    COMPROMISE. Health care reform is too important to stop now! I think that Obama and congress should take all the things that everyone can agree on and pass something now. We have to at least take a first step and send a message to the insurance companies that they can't take advantage of the American people any more. Just look at the increase in the stock prices of all the insurance companies in the last two days to see how happy they are that Brown's election signaled the end of health care reform.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:25 pm |
  203. Mike

    Jack,
    They should proceed like they should have in the first place...slowly, openly, methodically, without closed door deliberations and bribery.
    For once in recent history, do what is right for the American people, not what benefits the pockets of politicians. Keep in mind 2010 isn't far away. Citizens, let your voice be heard. (Vote Out Incumbent Congressmen Everywhere)

    January 20, 2010 at 8:26 pm |
  204. Norm Cohn

    If Washington Beltway boys and girls want to really listen to the American people, they can just make it all so so simple:

    ' Give the American people the same health care plan that
    Congress enjoys...better yet...have Congress enjoy the same
    health care plan they ultimately foist on the American people! '

    SO SIMPLE!

    January 20, 2010 at 8:26 pm |
  205. Morty

    Jack,

    The Democrats should proceed on healthcare by stopping before they get hurt worse. The majority of the country is against this health care plan. They, Corgress would be well advised to figure out how to bring jobs and industry back to this country and not create another entitlement program costing trillions of dollars and increasing taxes on people that cannot afford to pay their present taxes.

    Stop.......Stop....... Stop!! That's the answer.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:26 pm |
  206. Paolo from the Philippines

    Jack if they only focused on creating jobs in the first place, they wouldn't be thinking how to save health care. It is noble to reform health care but now is not the time to do it.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:26 pm |
  207. Patricia - Seatac, WA

    Jack, The Dems should do exactly what they should have done on day three of Pres. Obama's adminiastrastion when reaching out to the GOP for bipartianship and the GOP (and conservative Dems)shook his hand, smiled in his face, patted him on the back and proceeded to give his administration the finger, the moon and everything else......the Dems should push for a single payer plan and use reconciliation for approval. Not only on health care but everything else. It is time to act like the Dems are in control and take back Government. The Dems also need to talk more about there successes. Not just verbally but with flip charts, full page adds and commericals. Some people process information better optically rather than orally. After a while speeches and sound bites become like Charlie Brown heard his teacher speaking.... blah, blah, blah!!

    January 20, 2010 at 8:28 pm |
  208. Fred Leeder

    Thank god for the voters in Massachusetts with commen sense, lets hope that they have kicked over the first doimno

    January 20, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
  209. Carol

    If congressman had the health insurance or lack thereof that most Americans have they would not be able to pass health care reform fast enough. They have some of the best health care in the world. All paid for by us. How would they feel if we the people discontinued their health care?

    January 20, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
  210. William - Danville, VA

    Democrats don't know to govern, period. The Obama's administration should have pushed Senator Reed to the side long time ago, he sucks. The administration also fired Secretary Geithner, to send a message that they are taking the American people seriously.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
  211. Alex Valiao (Aliso Viejo, Ca)

    Healthcare reform discussions continues. Time to do it bipartisan. The Republicans and Democrats both have excellent points to make the best plan....both ideologies are important. If they fuse their best sides together-it's called America.

    Addendum: (Haitian oprhans) - When I refer to the whole world, that also includes Haiti. Women & adolescents can also help take care of the orphans per community if resources is available & possibility is viable. They also need to learn to take care of their own. Every living haitian is a human capital. Once rebuilt and more stabilized, the orphans from other countries can go back & live in new Haiti. They can contribute one way or the other. They are starting from scratch so to speak and a mindset that external help/aide is not forever should be cultivated. That's empowerment & self-sustainance.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
  212. Paul from Canada

    Better communication is the answer. The American people have not been shown a detailed list of health care costs compared to other nations. The list should include doctor charges for critical operations, nursing costs, hospital costs, malpractise insurance for starters.They will them see how out of control the American health care system is.
    It is unbelieveable that the the United States does not have Health Care for all of their citizens. You are the world leader.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
  213. Estelle from Illinois

    It would make sense for the Democrats to come up with a House and Senate compromise and put it to a vote.
    If Republicans create a filibuster with their 41 votes, then Americans will see what is really going on- a minority of Senators (only 41 out of 100) is holding the government hostage instead of doing their job. The Senate will come to a standstill until public opinion forces the Reublicans to go back to work.
    if Democrats fail to bring the issue to a vote, then Republicans will label them as do-nothing party. The real problem is the Republicans who refuse to engage and are simply being obstructionist for political gain.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:30 pm |
  214. Snatiago

    I am tired of listening what the democrats can offer after the election from yesterday. I want to hear what Brown and the Republicans can do tp fix health care, job creation, eviroment etc. We concentrate to much of what it mean for the Democrats but, what about the Republicans. They were almost 8 years in power and did not fix any problems and now they are stoping everything what the democrats are trying to do. It is not fair what a minority is doing to the nations. For me this means that nothing will be done this year or the next.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:30 pm |
  215. Pradeep

    What does it take Obama and the Dems to understand that Healthcare is being pushed at the wrong time. Right now its Jobs, Homes and Budget. Decrease the deficit, increase jobs and stabilize the real estate and then talk about healthcare, and people will support.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:31 pm |
  216. Robert MacMurdo

    Jack,

    It may be too much to ask but if Congress could put those massive egos somewhere and decide that this could be a wake up call to both parties that they do work for the American people and decide to sit down together and come up with a health care policy that addresses the needs of the American people and not the vested interest groups, insurance, drug companies, unions. Start with eliminating the tax loophole to employers for providing health insurance, no one can be denied coverage and tort reform. That should keep them occupied for the next year.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:32 pm |
  217. diane

    Enjoying your Social Security Jack? Enjoying your Medicare Jack? A minimal understanding of US history tells us Republicans did not vote yes on either. Whatever it takes for the Dems to at least ram something through that can be debated over time is better than the
    Republicans no no no to everything.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:32 pm |
  218. Mike, Ocala, Florida

    They need to knock off the arrogance, open the debate, find ways to improve healthcare for all that will work, without impacting those that have health insurance now and without hiding the cost. Start by major attack on fraud, limit malpractice suits, share patient info electronically. This can't be another entitlement program, except for extreme, temporary cases. What if you add a half-cent excise tax to every financial transaction in the US – except for purchase of house, purchase of US-made auto and deposit of money into US savings account, then allow sliding tax credit for same for those already paying for health insurance.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:32 pm |
  219. Liz from Missouri

    Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD) says the current healthcare bill is "better than nothing." Amazing how Congress can vote themselves everything and the American people they are supposed to be representing should settle for two thousand pages of "better than nothing."

    Throw it all out and start over. Go through everything we now have on the books and make the corrections to cut out the corruption and bureaucracy and make the adjustments to make healthcare affordable and available for Americans that want it and need it. We don't need two thousand more pages on the records.

    While you are at it , there is one law you can pass to really make the healthcare bill acceptable; make sure EVERYONE in the federal government participates in the same plan as the rest of the American public.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:32 pm |
  220. James Sarna

    Jack, they need to use Scott Brown to bring the Republicans back to the talks. They need to offer compromises such as including tort reform. In exchange the Republicans may offer some type of competitive option to bring the insurance companies in line. Both would significantly reduce costs. Nobody disagrees that health insurance isn't a critical need of many of our citizens. However, tax credits don't bring affordability to those who can't afford the premiums and bribery, extortion and back room deals don't further the cause either. Turns out Jack, you are part of the problem too. True, there is a 40% tax proposed but you failed to tell the viewers that it is only on the employer contribution above $8500 for single people and approximately $28,000 for families. Shame on you for enraging the viewers and making them believe they are going to have their taxes doubled.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:32 pm |
  221. Gilbert West

    Jack,

    I thought the objective of healthcare reform was: to include those Americans who do not presently have healthcare under the general umbrella so as to reduce emergency-room premium charges, and to protect those with pre-existing conditions from being denied coverage, and to bargain collectively as citizens of the USA so as to reduce the individual costs by providing volume. That crazy-looking graph they showed on C-Span appears to have been drawn by someone with another agenda. Wouldn't it be simpler to expand the medicare umbrella? We can use the administrative resources already in place. Why would someone sabotage the effort by including a bunch of brand new agencies? Are we stupid or what? Can't we fix what needs fixing about our healthcare system without needlessly over-complicating everything? The fact that this has been going on for 70 years should make us ashamed of ourselves. When I was in Germany back in the late 1980s, you couldn't even find a derelict on the street. Everyone was taken care of. The children had bright, cheerful, plump faces. There was an aura of well-being. Are the Germans that much smarter than us? We need to fix this thing once and for all, and get on with other business. If the politicians cannot fix it, they should be fired... All of them!

    January 20, 2010 at 8:33 pm |
  222. Ekow

    Unfortunately, Americans forget so easily, few years ago these same Republicans messed the country up but well I think what people are saying is that "the DEVIL (GOP) you know is better than the ANGEL (DEMS) you don't know"

    We gave them power (60) and they were slow in using it so the people have done the obvious.....strip them of the power and make them useless.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:34 pm |
  223. J Stringer

    Jack...no wonder Mass voters rejected Obama Care...they already have UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE IN MASSACHUSETTS provided under the Republican Mitt Romney.. Now they are hailed as saviors...saving the rest of American from having WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.....As a salesperson...it has been said...you cant sell someone something they DONT need...the Mass Voters already have UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE...why should they CARE about the rest of the U.S. Gee Massachusetts...I hope someday we have the chance to return the favor...

    January 20, 2010 at 8:35 pm |
  224. Vicki Phipps

    I think anything the democrats can pass will be PROGRESS which is more than I can say for the republicans. They say they agree we need health care reform. They say the medical insurance industry shouldn't legally be allowed to rob us blind...so If the GOP thinks it can do better than the democrats, then let's see what they intend to do to improve our health care issues. We'll see if the GOP says what they mean and mean what they say.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:36 pm |
  225. Wayne Slotsve

    The current polling on health care does not include the 40t who expired last yea, the millions who lost their homes due to medical expenses, and the millions who don't have phones because of cost of monthly payments for insurance. Consider this information and the more than a million dollars a day spent by the health insurance industry to lie to the public. Add in the Rtepublicans who have lied on the floor of Congress and constantly in the media and it is understandable that the number polled shows less support. The majority of US still support reform and without it we will see much worse economic conditions in this country. The Dems need to go with a strong bill that stops the greedy insurance industry

    January 20, 2010 at 8:37 pm |
  226. Doug in Tyrone, NM

    The Democrats should “get off the dime” and move to truly represent the interests of working people in American by passing the healthcare reform bill as it has been written and passed by the U.S. Senate. Then they need to move into high gear to counteract the Republican fear machine by spending the time and money to trumpet the truth about this legislation, a bill that has the support of the AMA and the AARP.

    1 in 5 New Mexicans is without health insurance, 1 in 4 of those are Hispanic-Americans; add to that an equal or larger number of New Mexican citizens who are under-insured and just one serious illness away from the same lack of care as the uninsured.

    The Democratic Party has the chance, right now, to take a stand for working U.S. citizens and for the children of this once great country. If it does not act, and this bill dies, my wife and I would ask ourselves two questions:
    1) What is the difference between the actions of the Republicans and Democrats?
    2) If there is no difference, why should we vote Democratic?

    January 20, 2010 at 8:37 pm |
  227. Voter from California

    They should cancel it. They should instead focus on the economy, on creating jobs, on stopping foreclosures. Healthcare reform should wait until people are no longer losing their jobs or homes. And when they do work on healthcare, they need to do it the correct way, the bill they have right now is absolutely wrong.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:38 pm |
  228. peter

    jack first off i read that about 75% of the members of congress and the senate receive money from the heath insurance companys no wonder they dont want a new nationwide plan it would save millions and cover everybody they would have to compete, i heard 3000 plus lobbiest in washington are from the health care and insurance companys , well first off get rid of all lobbiest in washington , make it illegal to get money from any business,that can ifluence there decisions on a vote period,make these paid off jerks raise money from public people that want them in office to do something , your countries health plan is a joke , come to canada and see what we got i have had 4 operations and my total cost was 6.00 for a phone ,,go read or watch michael moores video or script on his SICO video,, about canada, england and frances health plan , it makes your government look like a joke, your whole country had been misinformed and parlayed to the public by these paid off memebers of your govmt, and insurance companys , wake up americia

    January 20, 2010 at 8:39 pm |
  229. Ed Yarbrough

    They must scrap the current bill. Set specific goals for health care and insurance reforms that the American people support and have bought in too. Then write a bill that clearly addresses those goals. Allow no special interest deals. The bill shouldn't take more than 25 pages. If it does, it is too complicated. If they can't accomplish this, then leave it alone and move on to something else.
    Benicia, Ca.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:40 pm |
  230. Steve in Ponte Vedra

    The debacle with the health-care bill clearly demonstrates that the Senate is an institution that has outlived its usefulness. The best plan would obviously be to amputate this gangrenous lump of faineance masquerading as a pillar of government. Since the inertia of the American people is to great to undertake such an obvious move, perhaps some semblance of relevance might at least be breathed back into the Senate if the filibuster were abolished.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:40 pm |
  231. Marilyn

    Can't believe that the Democrats haven't thought of breaking up the health care bill into smaller pieces and passing legislation on individual parts (e.g., eliminating pre-existing conditions). We would then know if the Republicans are politicians or statesmen.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:44 pm |
  232. Tom

    Jack, the House and Senate should scrap their bills as currently written. Go back to square one and rewrite the bills with policy that the American tax payer / voter can understand. The new bill must lower the costs to the average American family without using accounting and calendar gimicks.

    Allow the insurance companies to compete on a nation wide basis for our policies and money just like auto insurance. Let the free enterprise system work.. the strongest companies will survive and prosper.

    Change the Tort legal laws tto lower expenses paid by doctors and hospital.... and thus passed along to us patients (customers)

    This Government needs to stop trying to controll or industries/ financial systems and now US as individuals with Government Health Care System... Either drop the issue or re-write this bill – more importantly.... do things that create jobs for us. First things First.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:44 pm |
  233. james

    Mabye doing it in public? Why has this not been noted?

    January 20, 2010 at 8:47 pm |
  234. Matt from So Cal

    Congress should use a vote of reconciliation. Once there is real reform, and when the day of public option comes, that will be policy that nobody will want to change. Just take a look at England.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:50 pm |
  235. Nancy

    Mr. Cafferty,
    Health care reform needs to continue. Massachuttes residents already have health care for 90% of their people. How fair is it for that one state to vote based on stopping health care reform. It took 8 years for the Bush administration to put us in this mess and now after only one year, people expect President Obama to get us out of the mess that was made. Give the man a chance, after all he is up against the the corrupt politicians and lobyists in Washington. Health care is very important and needs to go forward.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:50 pm |
  236. Bill - St Louis MO

    Let it (health-care reform) go at this point. It is somewhat similar to Bush trying to reform Social Security when he did. The public has said many times, many times before. It appears jobs is numero uno at this time. But there are so many out of control issues.
    The terror threat argument is a bit of a diversion, not saying it's not real. But the way it's been handled the last 9+ years is not working. People are not being realistic, being more nostalgic, like the goodle days of the 40's & 50's, even the 60's. Those days are gone, never to return. My dream is that the one political party we currently have (Democrats & Republicans) someday decide to compromise with reason, common sense, without party affiliations, and actually show the spirit that made this great country.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:50 pm |
  237. Peter M

    Yes, no question about. They need to stop making backroom deals with insurance companies, Wall street and Banks.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:53 pm |
  238. Mike in St. Louis

    Don't feel sorry for us in the USA Charchuk. First we are a REPUBLIC with democratically elected representation. Our system is working as it should.

    If the Democrats want to get healthcare reform it has to listen to and include Republicans. Remember the Republicans where ELECTED to office by the votes of AMERICANS (independents and GOP) in their districts who felt they were the best capable to represent them in the Senate and House.

    The reason this bill is so hard is a huge portion of Americans don't agree with what is being rammed through Washington. Government needs to adopt Google's strategy, "Do no evil". We need healthcare reform to control costs and prevent exclusions based on preexisting condition and programs for those disenfranchised by the existing system.

    We don't need a total revamp and, to use an overused term, Government takeover of healthcare. If Obama doesn't think it's productive for the government to takeover GM, why does it make sense for the government to takeover the entire healthcare system? Healthcare I have and I think it's pretty good and affordable. Less than 12% of Americans aren't covered and a very good portion of us can get affordable coverage but choose not to. I will support healthcare reform when a truly bipartisan effort is used, thoughtfully researched and supported by two-thirds of Americans not a slim 51%.

    Our system of government is supposed to protect our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No where in the Constitution does it state the government's role is to provide healthcare for its people. But it can make it fairer.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:54 pm |
  239. lee

    I am from oakland,ca and i feel that the democrats should go ahead and pass the health care reform bill. There are hundreds of people in america that doesn't have any type of medical coverage and the few that do the copayments are so high that they are unable to afford them. It's not about health care with some of the american people and it's not about obama being partisan with the republicans because he has reached out to them to try and bring them in. it's all about obama being black and they don't trust him and they don't believe in him. What is the republican's solution. n They are not concerned about this country. Their main purpose is to shut obama down.

    January 20, 2010 at 8:56 pm |
  240. David

    Since everyone is to have Mandatory Health coverage in Massachusets, why should they want duplication. Maybe they want to hide their coverage from the other 49 states, as a plum? David

    January 20, 2010 at 8:58 pm |
  241. Phillip

    Reasonable people can agree that the healthcare system needs needs help. However, the process by which Congress has sought to push through legislation has been absolutely inexcusable. Secret meetings, sweetheart deals, 2K pages (that no-one has read) pushed through at midnight during weekends and holidays. The more people learn about the bills, the more they hate them. Suggestions: Drop the power drunk arrogance. Abandon socialism. Start from scratch with basic ideas people can agree on, keep the process open, honest and fair. READ THE BILLS. Listen to the constituents and treat them well - after all ultimate Constitutional authority rests with them!

    January 20, 2010 at 9:00 pm |