FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
The Obama White House may have started another war it can't win.
On yesterday's Sunday talk shows - Senior Adviser David Axelrod said of Fox News, "It's not really news. It's pushing a point of view.” And he asked that other news organizations not treat Fox like it's news.
The president's Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, also said Fox is "not a news organization so much as it has a perspective."
This all started when White House communications director Anita Dunn called Fox an arm of the Republican Party and said the Obama administration would treat the cable news network as they would an "opponent."
Dunn is now in a dust-up with Fox News' Glenn Beck, concerning a speech where she quoted Communist leader Mao Tse Tung. Beck calls that "insanity."
There is also a January video of Ms. Dunn where she talks about how the Obama campaign controlled the news media. She says they went around the "filter" of the news media and spoke directly to the American people. Actually, a lot of the time they did.
Fox News says the White House "continues to declare war" on them instead of focusing on critical issues like jobs, health care and two wars.
And they have a point. It could be said that bickering with Fox News is a waste of valuable time and energy that could be better spent solving the nation's myriad problems.
Here’s my question to you: Is it a good strategy for the White House to go after Fox News?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
No. This bickering with the likes of Beck and O'Reilly just makes the Obama White House look petty and weak, and only helps the ratings for Fox News. Horrible job of time management for Team Obama! Spend your time wrestling with senators over a public option!
Pete from Sarasota, Florida says:
A politician cannot win a fight with the press. God help us all if this ever becomes the case, regardless of party affiliation. This is not going to play out well for the president since no American, regardless of party affiliation, will tolerate a loser.
Enough already! Stop reporting anything about Glenn Beck. He is an insane nut job. His opinion is of no value to anyone, except other insane nut jobs. Stop enabling this psychotic fraud by constantly reporting what he has to say about...well, anything!
Debi from Virginia says:
Going after Fox News indicates to me that the White House is worried. Finally someone with backbone is exposing the corruption and background of advisers in the administration.
Carmen from Davie, Florida says:
It is censorship, pure and simple. Every media outlet should read between the lines of Axelrod's statement that other news networks not go the way of Fox. This means if they report something the White House doesn't like they could get censored as well.
J.R. from Idaho says:
When you report on the stories you have created, you have become illegitimate. Fox is balloon boy.
Cafferty is being Fox News. Instead of attempting to present the question in an impartial, journalistic manner, Cafferty clearly loads his question against the Obama administration. Sounds very Fox-like to me.
Well, Fox's ratings have increased about 20% this year alone. Meanwhile Obama’s approval ratings have decreased. You tell me if it's a good idea.
I would say no. Faux News is not news and the White House only lends credibility to it by recognizing those idiots.
They should because Fox news has become more racist by the second!! THEY should stop their nonsense immediately!
No, it makes the White house look like a bunch of whiners. They are making accusations at FOX, but then refuse to go on their network and defend themselves. Obama wants to get his message out, he should go to where he feels he has the most opposition to win support. Constantly going on the networks that support him gains nothing, everyone watching those shows already supports his agenda.
I think it's a great idea, that way they can continue to show their true colors. Anyone that shows they are lieing about their policies is demonized and is tried to be destroyed, well it is back firing, we the people see them for what they are,we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it anymore. Is it 2010 yet?
There must be accountability for fair and objective coverage when calling yourself a "news" organization, no matter where you land politically. Fox "news" has a definite agenda and it should be disclosed as such, just as MSNBC does. Free speech and objective reporting makes us open to think for ourselves and to form our own persepectives. These perspectives control our national policy. Thats big, thats important and that deserves a hard look.
nO. It only encourages the illiterate paranoid inbreds who get their so-called "news" from Cluster Fox. The allegedly responsible media already give far too much air time to a small cadre of loony-toons like Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Lardgut Limbaugh and the rest of the teabagger crowd. .
I think it is an excellent idea. It would really show how foolish and inexperienced the Obama administration really is. If that would'nt show the American people his real colors, I don't know what would. Obviously, no other news or media outlet has an agenda or any bias and are totally unstained by it- just look at the ratings, right?
Sure, if they want to get voted out in 2012. By selectively avoiding FOX news shows that they are only interested in working with people who support their agenda, instead of extending a hand to all Americans, like Obama promised. Obama is a great campaigner, you would think he would like to go on FOX and win over support, instead of alienating the millions that watch FOX.
Of course not! Unless the Obama administration is ready to file and follow through slander/libel charges against the organization, they're just handing Fox News what they're after: attention, publicity, and of course, new material. The more they play into Fox's hand, the more outrageous Fox will get to goad them on. It's not news, it's entertainment for Right-wing nutjobs.
No Jack–going after FoxNews is like fighting fire with gasoline, a mistake.
No, because it gives those "Nuts" too much attention. Maybe if we all just ignore them they will go back into the woodwork.
No. It makes the White House look impish and weak. Obama needs to toughen up and deal with the criticism as every other president has. Every news outlet today has some sort of bias and takes sides.
I don`t know if they should or not, but there were many days when I saw Fox News commentators lining up all day long to attack the President. One day, it went all day long. And who the hell does Glen Beck think he is by installing a red phone? Does he think that he deserves a call from the President more than anyone else that questions his policies? I think not. If anyone sits and listens to Beck for more than a few minutes they would probably come to the same conclusion I have, that dude is nuts.
A broadcast license is a privilege, not a right to spew hatred and lies in order to enrich ones self. Since the other MSM outlets aren't challenging Fox, someone has to and therefore I applaud the Whitehouse for their stance.
If Fox news were in Canada, their broadcast license would be revoked.
Well, trying to ignore them and hope they go away is obviously not working...but then again, I'm not sure any strategy works when dealing with idiots.
Someone commented on a TV program not long ago regarding FOX NEWS . I beleive they said FOX NEWS does not broadcast news, they broadcast opinions . Enough said !!!
Sure it is, as otherwise we might hear a dissenting viewpoint from a news entity. Can't have that in America any longer, can we?
They are not "going after" Fox – they are just not recognizing Faux News as a creditable news source, which it is not. Faux is an idealogical propaganda machine for the far right. The real media needs to stop trying to legitimize it.
Most likely it is not a good strategy although it is true. Fox seems to be the leader in lets get Obama.
I think it is about time that they went after them for blatant lies, Jack. It is absolutely OK for editorial opinion to hold sway over a media outlet...we seen that happening since the first newspaper printed in this country. But we have laws that protect not only the people, but organizations from lying and materially injuring other people and organizations, and it is time Faux News was held accountable.
Is it a good strategy for the White House to go after Fox News?
Yes, because Fox News is really FAUX news..
There is NO NEWS from Fox, it's all opinionated programing to the far right..
Case in point:
When President Obama was addressing the joint session of Congress, Fox "News" was airing a repeat of Dances With The Stars. All other National and Cable NEWS were airing the speech.
Then Fox "News" whines because our president DECLINES to go on their opinion shows.
I think it is time for Fox "News" to be renamed to Fox NOISE..
Only if the WH wants to sound like Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. Otherwise let people read watch and listen to what they want to. P.S. the WH staff should be informed that nowadays, on radios and TV's, there is a device called an On-Off switch
It never hurts to go after the media,especially if you can find real mistakes,conspiracys. Or if you can legitimately go after Limbaugh, Dobbs,King,etc. These are people who publicize their personal opinons and not as truth.
The W.H. should hold back a little. They may be the targets, but they should be far above the level of media attacks. And never go after highly respected individual journalists. You'll loss every time.
It's a stupid strategy unless the White House considers boosting Fox's viewership and ratings a bad thing, which is all it is accomplishing by attacking Fox.
It is strange that a campaign as well run as Obama's, where he walked a tightrope past numerous questions that could have mired his campaign into defeat, has made such a misstep here. To criticize the media only adds weight to what they are saying and drives more people to hear what the White House is speaking out about. it's a very bad idea. Again, this is Obama's hubris getting in the way. The media always has the last say and endless hours to spin it in the public view. It is a foolish error, by a normally politically savvy guy.
Its an excellent strategy!! If Fox news want to distort the news without any regard of giving people the truth, to constantly borage your personal ideology of the news, then the President has an obligation to boycott Fox in order that people will be able to tell true unbiased journalism from false.
Fox News? Don't you mean Fox Propoganda?
I think it is great for the republican party that the white house is going after Fox News. It is obvious that they are going after them because they have the gall to ask tough questions and to challenge the messiah on his poor decisions. MSNBC,CNN, and the other main news channels lambasted Bush on a day to day basis and some of them still do today even though he is no longer in power. I don't recall the Bush administration going after people for disagreeing or questionning them. This just shows the true arrogance that this administration continues to show. The independent voters are going to move away from the Obama administration not only because the poor policy decisions but also because they will try to punish anybody that opposes them. As a republican I would encourage the White House to continue this strategy because it will make the 2010 elections a larger defeat for the left.
Any comments made that have an incendiary effect need to
be called out by the White House. Anyone is allowed to question
the policies of a President, that isn't the issue. Just chose words
My mother always said, "Speak the truth and shame the devil." If the White house points out that Roger Ayles is heir to the Lee Atwater dirty tricks smear campaigns, it might not shame the devil but it will remind the public where he came from and where he'll burn out.
No,Even though I Personally dislike FOX as a News outlet, The White House should leave them alone, They have bigger fish to fry right now instead of crying about a news agency, FOX does seem very biased and pro-propaganda, CNN Sometimes embarrass those they probably shouldn't, But they do the reports anyway, I LIKE THAT!
Hey Jack, somebody had to call Fox "News" out. With Fox constantly spewing the republican/conservative distortions and lies as fair and balanced news, someone finally called them on it. Thanks, Mr. President.
My mom always said that if you ignore something long enough it will go away , except flys and mosquitoes. Oh, and Warren Buffet
Standing against lies and fascism is always the right thing go do. This applies to "going after" Faux News.
Fox news is a joke, the 'anchors' are idiots and I catch my father all the time in lies that glen beck or rush limbaugh propagate. No less that 5 times has he requoted becks assertion that $ 7Billion of the stimulus went to acorn. Somehow they have convinced thier following that they are fair and ballanced HAHAHAHA. If they are fair and balanced I am a centrist, and so is JOMAMA. They are rediculous and need to be exposed as such by somone.
No, it is lousy strategy. I may agree but to make this statement seems beyond bizarre~way to make sure you are a 1 term President.
Egads! What a boneheaded move.
The White House "war" is unprofessional and unproductive. It should be considered an embarassment. The White House is getting into the first amendment knickers of America.
Fox News has a slant - but not a prejudice. If the White House were simply interested in punishing prejudiced networks as being irresponsible, then I would think that MSNBC with Kieth, Rachel, and company should get the same amount of heat as a Glen Beck. This just stinks of old-style Chicago politics if you ask me.
It probably isn't a good long term strategy but FOX is agenda based broadcasting, that being anything other than Republicanism will lead to the downfall of the U.S. Punching the bully in the nose won’t hurt in the short run. If Germany’s leaders of WWII were alive today, they would be employed at FOX. My wife watches them, I happen to see on the screen that Obama’s approval had dropped X amount since he took office. I doubt if they ever showed Bush’s approval drop from just after 9/11 until just before he left office. Fair and Balanced is mythological.
Since a lot of Americans get there news from Fox news, it may be beneficial to correct some of the inaccuracies that some hosts on Fox news report. However, I think the White House is going about it in the wrong way. Generally attacking the network saying, 'It's not a real news network' doesn't help the White House at all. If you really want to get a point across, cite specific inaccuracies and call them out on it.
Not a good plan at all. First off, it is great free advertising for Fox News. Secondly, if they are planning to remain true to the premise of "the most transparent White House" ever, then why should they worry about a few critical perspectives. What happens if CNN should run piece criticizing the President. Then, would it be okay to go after CNN. They need a thicker skin to be in the White House. As I tell my son "Stop the Whining!"
The White House is only stating the obvious. Fox is an adjunct arm of the Republican't Party. What other media organization's president was caught advising a U.S. president (of course, the GOP nominee) how to win the upcoming election?
Fox's commentators' are all big GOP supporters or they are shown the door. O'Reilly, Beck, and Hannity are not only one-sided, they go beyond the pale in criticizing this president. And half the time they just make up out and out lies. The FCC should re-implement the Fairness Doctrine.
Does anyone really consider FOX a serious news station. It is more of a lead in to watch CNN. FOX has always been more of a tongue in cheek type of station for all programming - news is not any different. It is more of the caliber of saturday night live news. Politicians need to get a tougher skin. Everyone has an opinion voiced in our living room, offices or on tv. It is up to each individual to use his intelligence to seek the true facts and decide for themselves what is the news.
The problem has more to do with symantics then strategy. For instance the phrase Fox News should be replaced by the more politically correct Fox Minibaughs. In order to be fair and balanced I am including my current definition of the word minibaugh
mini / baugh [mini / ball]
( plural mini / baughs) n
1. Any person or persons who celebrate being duped
2. A person or group who supports misinformation or untruths.
3. synonym-To be Foxed
The Whitehouse doesn't have higher priority items to worry about?
Well, Fox's ratings have increased about 20% this year alone...meanwhile Obamas aproval ratings have decreased....you tell me if it's a good idea.
Never a good strategy to publice an unfriendly nws organization, no mattter how distorted & tacky their "news" – just adds to the attention.
Engaging them is only going to rile up more attention from the right-wing haters and fan the flames. The White House shouldn't directly comment on them, but they should continue to ignore the network as well. There's no doubt that Fox has a ridiculous anti-democratic bias, but pointing it out will only open it up for debate in Fox's eyes. Just treat it like it is and ignore it outright.
I hope the Obama administration doesn't waste time "bickering" with Fox News, but pointing out that they're not really a news organization is simply telling the truth. Have you ever watched a day of Fox News "coverage", Jack? Try it some time, if you can stomach it. Or have one of your assistants do it, if you can't. It would be apparent pretty quickly that they are not so much covering the news as they are giving a forum for a "worldview" that is not fact-based. Reminding people of that truth is not only good strategy, it is an essential public service.
When you report on the stories you have created you have become illegitimate. Fox is balloon boy.
There have been times in our past where media outlets were controlled by muckrakers and robber barons and the President still allowed media access equally. I agree Obama will find few friends at Fox news, but to try to limit media in our country is like saying these media outlets are government approved, in other words, Obama is establishing government approved media. Media outlets in America are supposed to be independent watchdogs of the government. There is not supposed to be a government controlled or approved media so I am uncomfortable with this development to say the least.
Fox news should be called ,News from a Foxes point of view. It is not a secret that the people within that network distort the news to benifit the christian right repulicans point of view and you cannot call that a non bias news.
No, it detracts from the rest of their agenda and all they do is build the audience for Fox. If they leave them alone the rest of the country will stop watching them because they realize exactly what Fox is doing. Bad reporting in order to sensationize anything they see as negative about the Obama administration. It is a battle the White House cannot win.
Fox News has a select audience of societies fringe and cater solely to that group's intellectually challenged capacity to accept reality.
Remember Fox went after other real news stations, like CNN, about the lack of coverage the respective medias gave to the Fox generated protest march.
Fox should be ignored by the White House to a degree but still has to address the misinformation that emits from this right wing propaganda station.
Frankly, yes. Someone has to stop the lies. If the feds need to be the ones to do it, then let them do it. Fox News needs to be shut down.
This is just incredibly stupid on the part of the Obama administration. If Obama's people don't like what FoxNews is airing, then they need to either prove FoxNews wrong, or ignore the network. However, going against a news network with soaring ratings screams suppression of free speach (First Amendment anyone) as well as makes the administration look as if they're trying to hide something. Is this all Obama's people have to do with their time is attack a network that is less than friendly to its policies? The only thing this will accomplish is increase FoxNew's ratings even more, as well as severely damage Obama's rhetoric of governmental transparency. I suppose if MSNBC and their ilk temper their support of the administration that they become targets as well? Considering how much bad press Bush received, I don't recall him or members of his administration going after any of the networks. Makes you wonder if maybe FoxNews has it right.
This fight between the WH and Fox News was the subject of some newspapers and magazines down here, and besides the most biased magazine we have here (it figures...), everybody agrees that Fox News is way too biased to be taken seriously sometimes.
I am a progressive democrat from New York. I find that FoxNews provides much of the drama in the political soap opera that currently exists in our country today, and when the Obama Administration attacks FoxNews and/or other far-right conservatives like Rush, he adds to this secondary dialogue, and dilutes his own message.
Fox does need to get called out as the TV home for the Bush administration brainiacs that got us into this mess, and for the fact that aside from balloon stories, they are as newsworthy as the rag "the Globe" is at your local checkout stand.
Give the American people some credit–they know that the news provided by FOX is slanted. The Palin lovers watch it–the rest of the Country has figured out FOX prefers to present controversial subjects and doesn't really care to present the facts. Just consider them the channel of religious fanatics–if you don't like the material they present, don't waste your time watching. The President has a lot more important things to worry about than what FOX is concerned with–three years from now they will still be hung up on whether Obama was really born in Hawaii or not. They just cannot handle the truth..........
The difference between the Nixon and Obama administrations is Nixon kept his enemies list secret. Just shows how well the Obama administration deals with criticism.
Fox "News" has been one of the biggest frauds ever since its inception. It has been what the far right feeds on and has never held a middle position in anything. Calling this good news is like calling cotton candy healthy because it's low fat.
It really is just a waste of time. News Journalism in America jumped the shark years ago. The only thing that will change where we are at is to re-institute GREAT "REAL" NEWS BROADCASTING versus News Commentary and Editorial.
Jack, I guess much of the country could counter: The White House isn't much of an administration as it is a House of Czars. I mean we haven't really seen much in transparency, accountability, progress, or responsible and trackable spending. So I guess if the White House got itself in order, perhaps FOX wouldn't have much to pick at. Oh, of course that's my point of view, that goes contrary to White House point of view, which I guess would pretty much fall under that Free Speach, First Admendment thing.
No. They have the freedom of press and speech and it is scary that this administration would seek to supress those rightsas they tried to do with health insurers concerning mailers. The states have wiggle room under parts of The Bill of Rights, NOT THE FED.
Responding to Faux news only validates them and puts the whitehouse on the same level as Glen Beck.
Fox is Fox. Ignoring them is the best way to treat them.
"Going after them" is just what they want. Just leave them alone. There are more important concerns. Be glad that MSNBC is on the President's side. Those are the smart people, particularly Rachel.
The media has always been the final check and balance to the government. That the Obama administration views an news organization as an "opponent" is truly frightening.
Although I don't normally agree with the views of Fox News, I have to admit that they are right on this–focus on the real issues. The Obama administration is too focused on being received by everyone with open arms! Not to mention that bickering with Fox News is like feeding a troll as they feed off of it.
Although I don't normally agree with the views of Fox News, I have to admit that they are right on this–focus on the real issues. The Obama administration is too focused on being received by everyone with open arms! Not to mention that bickering with Fox News is like feeding a troll as they feed off of it.
Why can't you "journalists" in the corporate owned mainstream media see Fox for what it is? It's a propaganda arm of the GOP. They manufacture quotes, take things out of context, refuse to report stories that reflect badly on the GOP and lie, lie, lie. Stop treating them as if they deserve respect. Some of the things they criticize the current President for (talking to school children, promoting US participation in the Olympics, etc) they feted the previous president for. They are liars and hypocrits and I don't understand why you and others in the media pretend to take them seriously. cy gardner, arlington, va
For the White House to go after Fox News just shows that the White House knows they have not buffaloed Fox News like they have the other media. White House is afraid Americans will understand the truths about Obama and henchmen that come from Fox only.
So what Fox is very one sided. Let them run the gamut of spewing hate and negative remarks against the Dems and pretty soon people will tire of it and wake up and smell the coffee that the Dems are not as bad as the Reps. At least the Dems are trying to make affordable healthcare while the Reps are only after one thing and that is to protect the rich and their greed. Wake up my fellow Americans. You are letting the Republican party spin you into a deep hole by not using your noodle and quit spending on crap you don't need.
Calling FOX News "Fair and Balance" is like asserting that MSNBC isn't left-leaning. Each news organization supports and promotes a particular political ideology in its reporting. I think the Obama Administration would just fuel the fire to the hypocrisy of FOX News if it deliberately seeks to attack it. I have learned to enjoy FOX News by considering it an extention of the Colbert Report.
The White house should go after Financial market reform, ending the Wars we are in, and Health care reform. I haven't heard one word about Financial reform in months. Do what is right, and what needs to be done. Why are they focusing on a television station? Right now Democrats have an EXCELLENT opportunity to show the American people WHY they were elected. Going after a tv station or participating in petty politics will only weaken this. They have control of all branches please put some reform through. I cant stand people who blame others or divert attention.
Not only is the White House wasting time and energy but they are also wasting our tax dollars to go after Fox, a private news organization. What will they gain by doing this? Why can't the administration be civil and simply debate the issues with them face-to-face? This, sadly enough, is the status quo of politics today.
Yes it is. Listen to Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Brett Hume. All of their interviews and diatribes are slanted very far to the right. Poor ole Bob Beckel tries his best, but he is overshouted by these guys. O'reilly will beat the crap out of you if you disagree too much with"his opinion". They love to call people names, they think it is funny. They do not report when it when a republican gets caught with his pants down. Finally, to the plain looking smart women of the world. Do not plan on getting on Fox, you gotta be a babe to do that.
I would say it is their only choice since the other networks don't make a very comprehensive or honest attempt to hold Fox News to the truth. Rather than just report what they say about a particular issue concerning health care, the war or the economy all networks should ask them to prove their statements. They should probe the initial statement for accuracy and truthfulness. Go ahead and ask a follow-up, and insist on an answer to that question. Don't let them off the hook.
I think the administration shouldn't have bothered to acknowledge Fixed Noise at all. Once you acknowledge them, you make a certain class of paranoid people say "What does the White House have to be afraid of? What are they hiding?" and give the Fake New some kind of odd validity.
Would have been best for the administration to ignore them. There are plenty of other people out there that can point out the flaws and downright fallacies in FN's so-called "facts" in the form of competing pundits. Let them fight it out on the airwaves and let the White House maintain a greater dignity by staying above it I say.
I for once agree with you Jack. There's nothing to be gained by getting into a war of words with Fox News. This is simply political posturing at a time when we need our leaders to stop thinking about themselves and get to work for the American people.
I think it's a great strategy. The longer they remain quiet the longer people think that Fox News is right about what they say about Obama.
Remember when Michelle and Barak did a fist bump after he won the nomination and Fox News actually asked if it was a "terrorist fist jab"?
Yeah, any "news organization" that has the temerity to suggest that needs to be fought tooth and nail.
The comments from the White House clearly exposes Fox for what it truly is. Maybe the "legions" of followers will have some kind of ephipany and realize that they've been duped to the detriment of their own best interest – and to the benefit of corporate America.
If this wakes the lemmings up, I'm all for it.
If Fox news is the arm of the Republican party, why isn't the Republican party accuse the Oberman /Rachel and MNBC
the arm of the Democratic party. You don't hear complaints about that from Anita Dunn. Obama and his crew are poor loosers. When everybody in the news Media attacked Bush and shxx all over him, Bush didn't fight back. The bottom line is when you're in the white house you take the heat. Like it or not wnen you're at the top, you have to accept the criticisms. It's like that in every organization. Nobody said that life is fair.
Let the voters decide in 2010 and 2012.
Absolutely, This make you and the other news organization fall for it and will be the head line news for days. In the mean time they work in something important health care, 2 wars. Brilliant!
Of course it is not a good strategy unless you want to look as if you are now against free speech. Has anyone heard of the channel changer button if you don't like what you are hearing? I am surprised the administration channels aren't all tuned to MSNBC anyway where they are happy to fawn over every breath they take. I don't find any difference in the slanted reporting of Beck, Hannity and O'Reilly over the equivalent Schultz, Olbermann and Maddow.
When will we in this country realize that there should be a National truth in journalism bill? If you speak it and do not label it EDITORIAL, then you are liable for it's factual truth! 3, I repeat T H R E E sources must validate the story! It must apply to ALL blog, website, radio, TV, Cable, or any future tech. Jail for non-compliance!
You can't yell FIRE in a movie house, why can you do that on the most powerful mediums in the world?
It's a sign of how ludicrously incompetent the Obama administration is that it would engage in a battle with Fox News. It's the one news outlet the administration doesn't esentially have in its back pocket, and it can't stand it. It doesn't like Fox reporting on facts the administration would rather not be publicized–facts that Fox leaves up to its viewers to evaluate. We're witnessing a bunch of arrogant, elitist know-it-alls take umbrage with anyone who doesn't subscribe to their world view. And as in most cases, when liberals don't agree with an opposing view, they attack the person and are afraid to discuss and debate the merits of the respective positions. And as with most issues, it is the height of irony that those who cry for tolerance are the most intolerant when it comes to allowing the expression of ideas and views different from theirs.
Someone can sit back just so long while they are attacked, repeatedly. But the biggest problem is the out and out lies. This White House took enough of the garbage and they deserve to stand up for themselves and the American People to call into evidence the lies of Fox News.
Yes. Its about time somebody with a public voice to go after that "conservative" [racist] right-wing network. Only time people watch FOX is when sports events and the Simpsons are broadcasted other that FOX is not a part of my life. When I need know whats going in the news, I go the world wide leader in news.
??? If Fox News is the arm of the Republicans than what the heck is NBC? How can anyone not see the hypocrisy on these things. From 01-08 we had three networks giving it their all to bury Bush, now there is one network telling it like it is about this moron Obama, and the white house cant handle it??
President Obama is leading the nation in the wrong direction: He is in the woods without a compass (by his choice). President Carter will be looking pretty good after 4 years of this leadership.
Prioritys Should Be:
3. and more jobs
I couldn't agree with you more on this one. I would also have to add that "going after" a person/organization/anything only isolates me as a voter. I don't like slander in any form, I only care for the truth, which is probably why I have little respect for politics.
This is a bad strategy for any president to try. As president you have to be above the fray.
I don't listen to the morons on Fox. They are so predictable I could write their scripts. I am suspicious of my friends who tell me they heard something on Fox and believe it.
Whether its right or not to argue the legitimacy of fox news, one has to be concerned with the effects of right wing propoganda / scare tactics it imposes on its viewers. It has driven people to show up at presidential speeches with assault weapons. People think universal healthcare means nazi's are taking over america (by no exageration). This level of misinformation is reminicent of the old war of the worlds broadcasts where people really thought the earth was being invaded by aliens. Even though the network is protected by the freedom of speech amendment, I have a very large concern of the hysteria it promotes in less-educated areas of the country, and the subsequent violence that may ensue.
No, the White House should not engage in a war with Fox. That is small-minded, presumptuous, and a slap in the face of the Constitution. Stop making smoke screens and deal with the issues. You're not in Chicago anymore.
I think that it shows an inability to take criticism and a lack of class. Even if it were a true and proper discernment of the new station, it would be wise to answer questions by them on air to help resolve the tensions. They represent a large market and they are part of America.
The Obama administration has not "declared war" on Fox.
As an explanation for why Fox is not on their briefing circuit, they have simply pointed out what anyone already knows who has watched, heard, or read any of the rhetorical rants that Fox calls "News".
Anyone, that is, except their devoted niche of extremist followers who love to bask in the communal glow of conservative self reinforcement where opinion substitutes so easily for fact. It is their opinion that they are a news organization, and it is their opinion that their agitprop are to be considered anything more than pure, unadulterated ratings driven demagoguery.
Investigative reporting has a long history in journalism. This strikes me as a prelude to the Obama administration trying to remove and discredit a news organization that uncovers and reports news unfavorable to them. How will this ultimately affect the free speach rights of everyone?
think that it shows an inability to take criticism and a lack of class. Even if it were a true and proper discernment of the new station, it would be wise to answer questions by them on air to help resolve the tensions. They represent a large market and they are part of America.
Sine the constitution guarantees freedom of speech and this is the day and age of no one being held accountable for spreading lies, I think the White House has publicly pointed out the obvious that most independent thinking people already know; now they need to ignore them and concentrate on solving America's problems. I absolutely refuse to watch anything on Fox News and if I know who their sponsors are, I will avoid using their products. The news media also needs to not give this so much attention and cover newsworthy stories – not sensationalism.
No, it makes them look foolish and it should be an embarassment to the entire Obama Administration.
There is a major war situation that needs to be dealt with in Afghanistan, a teetering economy with jobs being lost or cut back daily, a healthcare reform push that seems as thought it must go through regradless of any way to pay for it, and possible other looming threats against this country with Iran, N. Korea and anyone else who wants to flex their muscle.
This is a losing battle and like it or not, FOX has beaten everyone in the ratings for a reason...they give ALL sides of the discussion-not just the Liberal Democrat view that Obama has enjoyed from all the other media outlets.
How can we have confidence in a President to lead this nation as Commander in Chief when he is battling a media outlet for negative press!! MOVE ON and deal with the real issues confronting this country. I'm sure our troops are hoping the reports out of the White House start to focus on a war strategy vs. how to outwit FOX.
Yes this is absolutely the right thing to do every time they out right lie or delibrately take something out of context call them on it until FOX NEWS and the like are exposed as the slander machine that it is. Thus it will be totally discredited in the end. It will be a long and messy process but necassary unfortunately. The White House should totally black ball FOX this will eventually force them to grow up and report the news not make up the news.
I don't know if it is a good thing for the White House but it sure is a good thing for Fox News. That is all I watch now to get my news and what I have found it that it truly is "Fair and Balanced", unlike all the other networks.
it's foolish for the Obama administration to get caught up in this type of drama; they're playing into the right wing agenda, and it serves no useful purpose. Fox news/network has every right to pursue whatever agenda it views as valuable for its viewers; doesn't mean it's necessarily correct for those who oppose; that's what we call a democracy. I say let's have a healthy and spirited debate between the administration and Fox; that's what works for me. The people who view will decide for themselves who's right and who's wrong.
No, it is not a good strategy for the White House to go after Fox. It is a waste of time and effort. However, Fox should not be allowed to include the word "News" in their title. That is clearly a misnomer.
Fox News is the Communication Wing of the Republican Party. Pure and simple!
When you are constantly being attacked by a right wing national television net work that bends and misrepresents facts while claiming to be "fair and balanced" , you have to defend yourself.
They have proven to be about as good an example of "fair and balanced" reporting as Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh have proven to be examples of "family values" , a favorite topic of the "talking heads" of the right whom they feature.
The White House had to do something, Fox has gotten totally outer limits and is NOT journalism. When you have crazy loons like Beck and obnoxious anchors who say whatever **** they want, that is an opinion station – not news! Of course Fox isn't going to stop, but it is time that we put some checks and balances on this station that our lowest common denominators in this country believe as gospel.
The people that believe FoxNews is an actual news organization aren't going to give the administration a fair shake anyway. I don't believe that standing up and defending yourself against constant smears and inaccuracies is a bad thing.
I agreed with the position that the white house is taking. Personelly I have yet to see some of the substance like Walter Cronkite, Bernard Shaw or any of the news personilties of that era on fox news. I always was under the impression that a news reported was to report the news, not there personal view point.
How is Fox any more biased than MSNBC or CBS? They don't glorify Obama and constantly do favorable pieces on the President, so Fox is an "opponent"?
Obama is acting childishly: "You're not being nice to me, so I'm not going to be your friend! Nyah, nyah, nuh, nyah, nyah!"
White house has much more to do than going after FOX – A channel who does not know the definition of NEWS Agency.
Fox has every right to broadcast info in any way they feel.
The programing is slanted toward the right because that is thier main audiance.
The main issue I have with Fox is that the vast majority of thier shows are opinion shows sprinkled lightly with news.
Maybe if they replaced the Fox News symbol in the bottom left corner with Fox Opinion Entertainment, the administration might cut them some slack.
Fox is the Republican opinion mouthpiece.
Unfortunately, the White House is put in a position of being forced to call Fox "News" out because so many average Americans actually believe some of the horribly irresponsible allegations that Fox continually peddles throughout the day, most of which are directed specifically at President Obama. There's very little, if any, merit to any of it, but most people don't research and find answers for themselves as much as they trust what they hear. It's baffling to me how much more conservative Glenn Beck became the day after he moved from HLN to Fox. Which one is the real Beck??
Shannon R, Seneca, SC
FOX NEWS ? You mean the people who Sainted George Bush? You mean the TV newwork that doesn't have a clue about objectivity, or the value of the truth? If so, then we are on the same page. I don't mind an "every once in a while" bias, but a constant barage of BS turns my red, white, and blue blood totally Blue. Let them do there thing as usual, and just stand back, and see how many people they turn off. Give me CNN, or CNBC. At least you will know that what you hear is closer to the truth....
While the first amendment is imbued with great latitude, there is a significant difference between reporting/editorializing and inciting action. The record of Fox news is clear... they have long ago passed anything that can even remotely be called journalism.
My question is simply this: Since Fox now incites and encourages people to take specific action (based upon knowingly false information, blatant lies, deliberate disinformation) why do they still have their license to broadcast as a news source at all?
Accordingly, since Fox has clearly, deliberately, and consistently violated the first amendment by "shouting fire in a crowded" theater... I for one believe their license should be pulled.
So good for Anita Dunn! May her attacks continue and grow stronger.
I'm not sure they are 'going after' Fox news. I wish the White House would have 'gone after' the lies much sooner. I know President Obama does not want to make waves because the Right would just say, 'see, black people aren't fit to be in high positions.
President Obama is trying so hard to minimize accusations that his behavior 'validates' a stereotype. I know that being Jewish, I cringe any time a group conversation turns to bargain shopping because I feel like people are thinking that since I'm a Jew, I'd be the expert (as if non-Jews don't want the best value for their money). I've had very very hurtful things said to me by people I thought were my friends – but they didn't think what they said was anything but 'truth'. It's the same, but on a larger scale, with President Obama.
If the Republicans ever do return to 'power', they will find the disrespect for the Office of the President of the United States of America they encouraged will not be gone for a white President.
They need to ignore them. They can't spend time responding to every political comment made by anyone of any prominence anywhere in the media, so they should focus on doing their work instead of getting drawn into endless debate and bickering.
In the case of Fox in particular, people who are able to analyze things already see how obviously Fox is biased, and people who are taken in by Fox aren't going to be convinced no matter how many words you throw at them.
Ask the people who worked in the Nixon Whitehouse ! This is what we have coming guys – we thought it would be 2011 before it all hit the fan, but think now 2010 we shall "see" who is what.
The Whitehouse needs to keep slamming Fox as the more they do the more people that go see what Fox is about....wow is the Whitehouse ever dumb.
WHAT ABOUT MSNBC?? Keith Obermain is meaner and nastier than anyone on Fox. Obama has everyone on his side , like he did during the campain. One news station questions him and he cries about it. Suck it up and do your job.
The best strategy to deal with Fox is a couple of drones and some good targeting software.
I see both CNN and Fox News every day. I like some programs on CNN and other on Fox News. I think that this is a terrible move from the White House becuase the only outlet that is more to the right is Fox News and they are created a bid division when they go after Fox News and for me it's a big mistake and everybody in this ountry must be against this, becuase they are creating a precedent that come used against other News Channels in the future also it's a dangerous game that can be back fired to them and they will loose a lot of credibility on this game and if they are succesfull and Fox News will be dead and then the result is a lot more bad because you are tell the people that the goverment can turn off any TV News or News Organization.
This attack on a news agency is insane. Even if the accusations the administration were true, for the administration to attempt to silence a voice simply because it speaks against them, is not within my understanding of the freedoms that I and others fought to protect. President Obama and his entire staff appear petty and threatened by these unwarrented attacks. We have much bigger issues at hand than President Obama's fragile ego.
This feud with Fox is silly. Why give them status when they are nothing but right-wing propaganda , loving every minute of the free publicity?
Now there's a battle plan. Axelrod should go after that fake news channel – you know, the one who put their opinionators in the news anchor desks during the primaries and during both conventions. The fake news channel who slandered tea party protestors and called them all a bunch of loons and racists...Oh, I'm sorry. That's MSNBC. My bad.
It's a great idea. If they want to be treated as journalists, with the access and clout that news organizations enjoy, they should report facts instead of unending spin. That network has devoted the last 1-2 years trying to label our President as an anti-American invader of the White House. Prior to that, they were cheerleaders for the Bush administration's wrecking of our econonomy and middle class. The White House is right on track with this one.
This is a violation of freedom of the press. It may work out strategically, but ethically it's disgraceful for the White Houseto criticize an opposing viewpoint.
This is brilliant communications strategy. Those nitwits at FOX will have themselves all in a lather about being called out as a propaganda compay (which they are). This 'lather' will force them to fill their airtime complianing about this "controversy", which keeps those numbskulls from propogating lies about 'death panels' and health care reform.
While they're busy huffing and puffing, we get real health reform passed, and FOX commentators will be too busy to notice because they'll be discussing their favorite subject - themselves.
Absolutely, it is about time that cable news gets kicked in the teeth.
The Obama Administration hasn't started a single war to this day. Just an Argument with Fox News and a lot of energy and effort trying to end the Bush wars. I think that says a lot more about this administration than it does for the previous one and Fox News combined.
Keith from Alabama
Also, someone should inform the White House that it is a waste of time trying to convert Fox News watchers anyway. They're just as irrational as the news coverage.
Most certainly someone needs to address Fox and their actions.
Fox is not a news media but hides under that misconception.
It is a TV station existing specifically to cause disruption, spread hate, anger, fear mongering, stirring up unrest, totally ignoring fact, evidence, constantly feeding their own malicious agenda.
The majority of it's hosts are egotistical radicals, racists, and some, mentally unstable.
They cater to and support the right wing extremists using any means
possible, regardless of what level they have to stoop to, to discredit
our president and anyone who is not in total agreement with them.
And, what is so very sad and dangerous is that some actually believe
their preposterous accusations and do not realize the extent of
their total lack of integrity and honor.
The White House should really stop stealing stuff out of Chavez's playbook, eventually people will begin to take notice!
as reported on your own network in an article from Suzanne Malveaux and Ed Hornick
Bottom line Jack,
the Administratio is a lot busier with other priorities!
Cable news has changed the way people get information. If the information is slanted or misleading, then the source needs to be called out, whether it be another news service or the White House. Junk news is junk news and only confuses the public more than it already is. Enough already!
Jack, we live in Texas where 9 out of 10 people watch FOX because it is known as the Republican channel but the White House needs to keep their mouth shut about it. By the way, we watch CNN most of the time but never FOX.
No Jack, They should not be wasting their time bickering with the talking heads at FOX. It is a pointless exercise against a "news" agency that is unapologetically the propaganda arm of the RNC.
Move on, folks, you won't win any favors by fighting with FOX, and you will only feed their viewer's frenzy.
Jack, I agree with everything the White House says about fox news. I watch fox news long enough to realize that they got quite a few nuts with Dave Beck leading the pack. Having said all of that, I think it would be wise for the White House to stay out of it. Drawling attention to fox news will only increase people's curiosity and make their ratings higher. The only time I even consider turning fox news on is when I am on a diet and need to lose my appetite. Anyone with common sense would come to realize that fox news is one sided. They do not need the White House telling them. That is why I like watching a news network that you cannot tell whether they favor one side or the other. You stand a much better chance of receiving your news more truthfully without being tainted by a network's opinion.
Not really. Fox News will still say what they want to say and produce what they want to produce. The White House "going after" Fox makes them seem defensive and if it's not a "news organization so much as it has a perspective"...let the people figure that out for themselves.
The White House is just showing how tied up they are in the media. While Fox News does have a conservative slant, it is no different than MSNBC's super left slant. The difference with Fox News is that they actually list out facts. They don't have a baseless commentary. O'Reily is a great example of someone doing their homework before he speaks on a subject. I applaud Fox News for not being subjegated by the White House. Obama better be careful because they are starting to sound like Hugo Chavez who does everything in his power to shut down anyone who doesn't praise him.
Jack the wheels are coming off the Obama administration, and picking on FOX News is done just to distract from REAL issues like Afghanistan and Health Care reform.
Kev, Tempe AZ
FoxNews leans right...but there is absolutely a difference between their news shows and their opinion shows. Anyone should be able to see that for what it is.
It's a little scary for me that an administration would attack a legitimate news source...I don't know where we're headed but if this administration continues this, it will smell like communist news control and everyone will know it.
Fox News should be ignored by everyone........and that includes the White House. Don't give them the staisfaction of knowing anyone is even listening to their garbage.
Media Matters for America, a liberal media watchdog group, points out that former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, also a Fox News contributor, quoted Mao in a 1995 Roll Call profile.
"War is politics with blood; politics is war without blood," Gingrich said, citing Mao.
Karl Rove, another Fox News contributor, wrote in a December 2008 Wall Street Journal op-ed that President Bush "encouraged me to read a Mao biography.
People have to ask themselves why do they allow themselves to be limited in being followers of any media outlet for that matter! With all the technology and data available we have the freedom to make up our own mind...imagine living according to a real knowledge of what it is to be a free citizen with the freedom to think for yourself and getting all different sources of informations at home and abroad for people to make up their own mind...but in order to make up your own mind...you have to accept taking the time to search for the truth and allow yourself to become true in the process.
I would love to leave a comment!! Although I am talking only about the likes of Hannity, O'Rielly, and Beck, I have to say I have never heard so much hate spewed out to the public in years as Fox news spews. They are sensualists stirring up those that already are filled with hate and deliberately twisting the facts. And when O'Rielly came out against calling those at the tea parties loons, msnbc played several clips of several different times he himself called the public loons that did not agree with Bush. That makes him a hypocrite also!! They love to create hate and I for the life of me can not see how so many are led blindly by these few. They parrot what they say and let them get them all worked up in a frenzy. Some on Fox are really horrible.
FOX news is obviously a partisan network with a clearly Republican bias. Its sad when government officials waste time stating the obvious rather than spending time explaining the inexplicable–like how the USA went from Superpower to Superdebtor, all in the span of one generation.
Having an opinion doesnt take any valuable time or energy. I promise you, there is no windowless room where the Obama adminastation sit and waste time wringing their hands and plotting against Fox News. They were asked questions about Fox and answered them. Truthfully, I might add.
I heard the quote and she said that Mao was one of the two people she looked up to most. Mao who banned free speech is the idol of our communications czar, that should scare all of us. She needs to resign immediately.
Having an opinion doesn't take any valuable time or energy. I promise you, there is no windowless room where the Obama administration sit and waste time wringing their hands and plotting against Fox News. They were asked questions about Fox and answered them. Truthfully, I might add.
Probably not. The White House certainly has every right to defend itself, but going after FOX News is probably a waste of time. The thoroughly propagandized folks who watch that sewage-masquerading-as-news will not change their minds and FOX News has no credibility at all with the rest of us. The White House should ignore them and leave it to CNN to keep them honest.
It isn't good right now, however I do agree with what they are saying. Case in point – CNN reported on President Obama visiting the church at Camp David and about its pastor. They noted the controversy about his views toward Islam.
Fox reports it as – Obama's new pastor. They keyed in on the controversy. No mention of great service and how well he is respected (BTW – he is a Naval Officer assigned to the chapel at Camp David). They chose THEIR perspective vs just reporting that President Obama visits there from time to time. They made it seemed like he had joined that church and a regular standing member.
Now please tell me how that is "fair and balanced". They are definitely not balanced. I see a lot of interviews with Karl Rove, no rebuttal from the other side. But when a Democrat is on, you normally see a Republican as well. They give people like Michele Malkin (who is a nutcase) a forum to speak. I'm all for opposition, but she's crazy. The same goes for Dick Morris – he has a forum to speak his side, but no rebuttal from a differing point of view. As much as I don't like Hannity, he at least has one Democrat on his panel.
The White House should just let Fox do their thing (which is nothing) and not make any comment.
Considering that Fox News straddles the line between real journalism and opinionated editorializing, it is reasonable and valid for the White House to call them on their behavior.
Taking on Fox News, or any other major news organization for that matter, may rally the Obama base for awhile. But that gets right back to the other big question in the news: When will the Obama Administration get out of campaign mode and start acting Presidential? Perhaps this is the natural consequence of electing an overnight rock star instead of a seasoned leader. Sad.
It's not surpising, that's for sure...But it is rediculous and petty for this administration to carry on a fued with Fox News. It seems to run contrary to Obama's espousement of "transparency".
It's strange to think that Obama would sit down to talk with Ahmadinejad or Chavez , but NOT with Beck or O'Reilly!
When you watch Fox News during the day when the news anchors are on they give the news at it is but when you watch the commentary shows on during prime time then the opinions are scewed just like on every other news station. Therefore, I think it is rediculous for the President to be attacking Fox News. I also believe it is below the office of the President.
Finally it also looks bad for the president to be attacking one of the few news stations that critizes him. I'm not saying he has an agenda I'm just saying it looks bad.
I think it's a great strategy and "Crazy Like a Fox" – OOPS! – The White House has had it with Becks, Hannitys & O' Riellys so their playing hard ball. Good for them. And I think it's well calculated Jack.
Maybe they even learned a thing or two from Congressman Gracy of Florida. I say hit with everything they got. By getting Fox defensive on the air they might get some of the right wing dogma diluted a bit
In the interest of fairness though I should say I kinda like Krauthammer, Wallace and Huan Williams. Bill Kristols Ok too. Most of the time
Wow, can't handle the heat, all they have to do is prove them wrong.
I don't watch everything on FOX, but it is nice to watch when you get tired of all the other networks singing praises to our President. I think that it is childish that the President would go to all the other networks, but not FOX, just because they do not fall at his feet.
I am sure you will not post this because you don't like it when people question the President.
By going after Fox news, the White House would only give them more significance. Most viewers realize that some members of the Fox media are often sensationalists who willingly spew garbage simply for recognition. I would not give them the recognition they are seeking. Pretending that they do not even exist will have the best effect.
The White House and the administration have what they believe is a group of very smart people, starting at the top with the President down to th lowest intern, and they may. But, smart people make mistakes all of the time and the proof of the most recent mistake is taking on the FOX News.
Bush I guess must not have been smart at all, becasue he and his administration did not attack Newspaper, Radio station or news programs from MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CNN and PBS. Nor did they cry about the daily attacks for the media and Democrats and others from a different perspective.
Grow up, stop crying , be open to a people even they have a different opinion. This is life not grade school.
Sure it's a good strategy. They need to keep a close watch on SNL too.
It won't do anything. I've tried the same thing with friends who watch Fox news religously. The Fox crowd is so set in their ways they think it's the word of God. It doesn't matter how many times I give them examples of flat out lies with proof to back it up. Or the other side of the story is a lot of people out there, on the right, know that Fox news is very opioniated. They don't care. They just like to hear Obama bashed because he's just another "tax and spend" liberal. Doesn't matter that the last 3 Republican Presidents were all "borrower and spend" conservatives.
Anybody with reasonable intelligence knows that Fox news a GOP propaganda machine. They are just saying what everyone knows. The only people that are really spending time on this is the Media itself. I don't see how stating the obvious is really taking up much of this administration's time.
Inman South Carolina
Fox News is the opponent, Jack – the opponent of President Obama, CNN, and the truth. I say expose them as the liars they are.
Yes, it is. Fox News has long distorted, twisted, and stretched the facts, and sometimes even flat out lied to get their version of things on the air. It's about time someone called them out on it, especially when their tactics and incorrect message is seeking to derail health care reform with baseless charges and untrue claims. Keep calling them out.
Oklahoma City, OK
I think they just spoke the truth about fox news. We've all known it is not a real news organization. But it was not news when Condoleeza Rice referred to 'her guys' at fox, and it's not news that Obama's administration gives them no credit as a news organization – they don't deserve it
No, it's a terrible strategy. I didn't care for Bush after the 2004 election,and I voted for him twice. I thought that Obama would be good for the country, now I see his administration (which was to be transparent) is the most incompetent and unethical we've ever had.
They aren't "going after Fox News" they are just calling them out on some things that should have been done long ago. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with or criticizing an opponent but the arguments used should be the truth. For too long many on the right, especially on talk radio, have exaggerated or told downright lies to fire up the base and these people have actually believed it. The "fear and smear" tactics started under Karl Rove's election strategies and festered during the last election campaign when Sarah Palin associated Pres. Obama with "terrorists" and allowed people in her audiences to shout horrible threats. If the Fox network wants to be viewed credibly as a news network, then they need to adhere to proper journalistic standards. They can'[t have it both ways. Right now when you think of Fox, you think of Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity and others who faitfully follow their cheerleader from radio Limbaugh.
YES!!!! I can't stand Fox News. I want to watch a station that shows both views e.g. CNN. Fox is one sided. How to hate the President.
This president can do nothing right in any of there eyes. Mainly Glen Beck and Sean Hannity. I cannot believe how these men can hate our President so much. At least with CNN you give both sides on an issue which I like.FOX DOESN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jack, of course! you have to have a "bad guy" if you want to promote the idea that you are the savior and messiah of the country. An entire news agency makes a great "satan" and focuses everyone on the conflict between the news agency and the administration, not the scams going on behind the scenes. Rightous indignation can blind the people, if only they can be convinced that the "satan" is out to get the "savior". Obama has used this technic quite well.
NO...... they have bigger fish to fry
I wondeer if the Obama administration thinks The New York Times, NBC, CBS, ABC, & MSNBC are a wing of the Democratic national party? MSNBC's Chris Matthews, the Ed Show and keith Olberman are all left leaning. Look at the soft coverage that the Obam administration has received from those news organizations mentioned above. Chris Matthews also worked for 4 democratic politicians including Jimmy Carter. George Stephanopoulos worked for Bill Clinton. If the Bush administration tried pulling this trick on any of the news organizations then there would have been reports of censorship and dictator like actions from the major news organizations.
Fox news is a bully if there was a news channel that bad mouthed you Jack you would fight back too at least obama isn't so much of a wimp
to take their crap.
Personally I think fox is touching on topics that the white house is very sensitive too, meaning the wh don't want the people to know everything they are up to. So much for transparency. 2010 all must be reaced "all"
Obama may not win the "war against Fox news" but anybody with any sense knows that they are the same as the right-wing radio stations. Just trying to promote more of their opinions against gays, abortion or anything else that threatens them. If you don't hold the same views, why would anyone watch Fox news?
It's probably not the smartest strategy, but someone has too. Faux News has become a shrill, weeping joke of a news organization. Fair and balanced my donkey.
I've been a journalist for almost eighteen years, running my own publication and doing various electronic media enterprises.
Fox News is not a news organization. It is nowhere fair and balanced by journalist standards.
I seriously doubt that the management at Fox News are current, active members of the Society of Professional Journalists; an organization that its members prescribe to a set of credos, including this passage: "Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility. Members of the Society share a dedication to ethical behavior and adopt this code to declare the Society's principles and standards of practice."
SPJ may be a 'volunteer' group of journalists but if a journalist/pundit/commentator does not believe in the afore mentioned practiced, then that person is not a journalist by any standard and if an organization does not believe in such standards, it cannot be considered itself a news outlet.
It may be a matter of perspective but from where I sit, it is what I believe and what I go by in my career and it is sad that others do not feel the same way.
Jack: this president has faced more critical issues in his brief stint as our president than his bumbling predecessor of eight years the way he is being attacked by the right sponsored by fox news is bordering on sedition if they were in any third world or developing country they would be
facing either long prison terms at the very least our president has extremely difficult problems in extremely difficult times and he is proving that he is up to the task no wonder his hair is turning grey
Gotta wonder what they are afraid of? By boycotting FOX, they are alienating millions of potential voters. FOX news has the highest number of viewers that vote independent. MSNBC is way more liberal than FOX is conservative. Funny how they don't complain about the media bias from MSNBC. We have learned that if you want complete news coverage you cannot watch just one station.
The president's Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, also said Fox is "not a news organization so much as it has a perspective."
Have any of these people watched MSNBC? That is the 'anti-Fox' and nobody at the White House says they are not a news organization. All news organizations have a perspective. Fox just happens to have one with which the White House disagrees. That is called freedom of the press. Demonizing those with differing perspectives is the tactic of despots, not true democrats (with a small 'd' or a large one).
Its a good strategy for Fox,because for the first time I'm looking at their news to find out what the big White House fuss is about.
It's bad for the White House, but good for Fox News... and for the American people.
Its a horrible idea but I love it. At this rate the only TV news I will view is Fox News. Eighty to Ninety percent of the media act as an extension of the White House Press office and I have to admit I am getting to the point that I do not like the media. Fox News is open to alot of petty jealousy from other media organizations and the White House is doing nothing but increasing ratings and market share for Fox with this latest rookie maneuver.
No, all it does is makes Fox News look like its actually doing damage to the presidents credibilty. The best thing to do is ignore those idiots...as they say if everyone is in the room and the idiot starts acting up the best thing to do is ignore them...
Given that the "mainstream" media has often given Democratic candidates favorable treatment in the stories that they choose cover (and the ones they ignore) and the way stories are phrased one could easily conclude that the mainstream media was an opinion vehicle for the Obama Administration and other Democratic candidates. That would be overly broad too. Simply, to pretend and that is what this is pretending that roughly 50% of the Country does not agree with you is a very fast way to make yourself a one term president. Hint-lose your political team and focus on actual policy. Good Politics is always BAD policy!
Well if they are asked questions, I believe they have to answer them. So maybe if the media quits talking about it, the White House can quit talking about it also.
You seem to ignore the fact that a lot of people think that they are getting facts instead of opinion and they are SCARED by what they hear from Fox News Channel. These people are convinced that they are getting true information that every other channel is not giving them. It is disgusting.
Absolutely. It's like the argument that the president is trying to "do too much" - in fact, there is always time to demand that news agencies stick to the truth. The battle for unbiased journalism, so critical to a clean, fact-based public discourse, is as important an issue as political corruption and transparency in government. It's no secret that Faux News has functioned as Murdoch's admitted propoganda machine for years. It's about time the White House called them on it. Bush should have but didn't (no surprise).
Not a good idea to go after Fox. It just gives them free publicity and fires up their right wing viewers and the conservative base even more. As to wether Fox is actually that biased, I wouldn't know. I only watch the best news network on TV. It's called CNN.
well Glenn beck can't even spell , and too many times I have witnessed the debacle of what they call "entertainers"
Of course it isn't a good strategy. It should be beneath them to involve themselves in such a "quarrel"..maybe the real problem is that FOX isn't falling at their feet as other MSM outlets have done.
The White House has enough problems and why they would want to stir this media pot of stew, I'm not certain. Isn't it time for we the people to see something happening with the economy and healthcare and many other things without the White House fighting the media. NO the White House should not go after Fox News.
Jack,would you start a war,and not have the ammunition to fight back?Whats wrong with the Obama White House,guess they feel all news must be slanted in their favor? It is a mistake to start a stone throwing contest,when all you have is pebbles to throw.
Fox "News" needs to be called out for what it is. Radical editorializing masquerading as journalists.... Their actual reporting isn't the problem, it is the lack of candor in topic choices.... their coverage of the so called "grassroots" 9-12 (For which Glen Beck wants the Nobel Peace prize) compared to the coverage of the Gay rights protests in Washington... and that is only one in a litany of examples... The President's team loses nothing in calling out the town bully whose extremist rhetoric is already inciting irrational violence out of misplaced anger.
I just wish the President and the White House staff spent this much time and effort helping me and others get a job. This White House seems to be more concerned with their image than they are with the real pain and suffering a lot of Americans are going through right now.
Taking on Foxnews isn't really a good idea they should make proper reference to what they(White House) have issue with, ex: misinformation, taking quotes or comments out of context, or even flat lies which alot of you guys know they do.....One of your host mr. Rick Sanchez has pointed to alot of misleading statements, that Foxnews has put out there.
Taking lies and bad reporting isn't a losing cause, because whatever type audience Foxnews draws that won't change maybe the mindset will after getting the same information else where complete this time instead of increments or sound bites(like they love to do) things could change
Ridiculous! What about the left leaning cable pundits? What about MSNBC – the entire day, except for Morning Joe is left extremists, please you couldn't get an unbiased opinion from Ed, Rachel or Keith. Why these people are still on with the horrible ratings they have is beyond sane judgement.
Sounds like the class bully trying to beat up the weakling for standing up to him. Look it's obvious Obama feels threatened by FOX since they are actually calling him out for things the other media seems to scared to do themselves.
But maybe Obama will pull a Chavez and silence any media that speaks ill of him, afterall that is the corrupt Chicago politician way isn't it? Similar to the mafia.
Someone needs to put Faux News in its place...if not the WhiteHouse, then who? And by the way, I love how they accuse the WhiteHouse of "declaring war" on them–typical.
Jack, somebody needs to go after Beck and Hannity for sure, They make some of the most outragious claims, about President Obama, this crap they spew on a daily basis, doesnt have to have any truth to it.....just wild fantasy bs. to incite the ignorant.....bigots...so I dont care if the Whitehouse go after Fox.......
If Fox is misleading thay should be called out on it, as should C.N.N. or M.S.N.B.C.. President Obama, should go on Fox news.Either with Beck or Hanitty, not Chris Wallace.Bill Clinton beat him up enough. I,m 61,the news has changed a lot over the years,politics have not. I don,t think Walter Cronkite would make it in the news today. Just telling it like it was would not be entertaining.
Wasn't it just reported that some higher-up at Fox News said their reporting was like the op-ed section of the newspaper? By definitiion that makes their programming opinions and blatantly biased. If Fox News wants to be considered a real news channel, don't they at least have to make an effort to report unbiased news?
Fox News is the convervative version of The Daily Show or The Colbert Report.
It's more of a distraction than anything else, Jack. Every media outlet has a slant of some kind, and Fox News is no different. Its how they attract a predictable demographic of viewers, which gets specific kinds of advertisers, which is how you all make your money.
Fox News and the White House are both benefiting from this spat because it establishes their identities by attacking their opposing slants. Therefore both the White House and Fox can distract the gullible and frightened publics from looking at their irresponsible, morally ambiguous, and downright incompetent behavior.
Its a convenient, and well worn tactic, but how long will it be before people start to see through it
They have a lot of nerve calling themselves Fox "NEWS"!
Their hosts talk about the President being a fascist! They are the ones spewing propaganda from the neocon power brokers – and have been doing it ever since their inception under the control of the Republican Party.
This administration has not tried to control the news content that the American people can hear like the last administration did (ie. Dan Rather and CBS News).
Chicken is more like it. They spew their comments and refuse to appear on FOX to defend them. What has happened to the transparency that Obama promised and his willingness to listen to all Americans? Guess that's why he won't go on FOX, he knows they are the one station that will ask the questions we want answers to. Much easier to stay in his comfort zone with his staged press conferences.
No, what waste of time. When are people, our president, going to realize there are commentary shows on 24 hour news networks that aren't news. There are commentary shows and news shows and no one would be watching CNN or FOX if all the shows were simply news.
My advice to President Obama and his staff is to boycott Fox news. In the words if Spencer Tracy, give them a wide berth! I do not watch that channel because it is an arm of the Republican party. You did not see its' blatant approach until the election. O'Reilly who talks of nothing but ratings is an obvious supporter if all things right. Glenn Beck is just pathetic and at the same time, dangerous. To call the President a racist is outrageous and disrespectful. Beck is the racist. Dick Morris, former Clinton aide, said that Pres. Obama would be a one term President one day after he was inaugurated. This from a man who was caught with a prostitute years ago. Hannity just spews venom. And how did Chris Wallace the son of one of the most intelligent men to ever grace the news media, Mike Wallace ever lower himself to work for such a biased network? It is beyond my comphrension. Thanks for the question, Jack. Your segments on the Situation Room are the highlights of the show!
Yes, I think the Obama administration needs to call them out for what they are. It's like there's an elephant in the room and no one what's to say "what the hell is that elephant doing in this room?"
My mom always said the truth hurts and it should hurt FOX News and their audience. I know people who sit there all day and fill their minds with Fox hatred. They used to be nice people and now I don't want to be around them. As for me, I watch CNN 24/7.....I am also a sickie but at least I get fair and truthful reporting.
The White House is way off base. Every news organization has a slant and spins each story to serve the leaders of that organization and cater to it's followers/subscribers. They don't like Fox because they are the only network that routinely questions their decisions. The White House is looking very childish. News flash: Not everyone subscribes to their liberal agenda!
I watched Fox News (Bulls and Bears) for about 20 minutes yesterday. They had 3 conservative guests and 1 moderate/liberal guest. The 3 conservatives stated their views but, when the moderate spoke, all 3 conservatives talked over him as did the commentator. It was rude and boring.
This is common on Fox News and actually has gotten worse than it was several years ago. When people talk over someone else to drown them out, I change channels. Perhaps conservatives think this is normal behavior, since they've all been doing that at the Townhalls. However, it just really makes me angry when I cannot hear the conversation. It does not reflect badly on anyone but those rude enough to talk over someone else. They obviously were not brought up right and fear opposing views.
Fair and Balanced? Not even close.
Fox News is one of the only free news agencies left. Fox News is uncompromisingly fair and balanced. Other news agencies are but pawns pandering to a socialist administration. Fox News has only exercise their freedom of the press. Amendment 1 grants us freedom, amendment 2 guarantees it.
Jack, Fox News having lobbed missile after missile at this White House should not be shocked and awed when the fire power is turned back on them. I suspect this White House is merely using fire to knock back the Fox inferno of negativism in order that it may better focus on "critical issues like jobs, health care and two wars.” Besides, if it did not, you (and a multitude of others) would be asking: "Why does this White House continue to let Fox News define it and its policies." I say, “Damn the torpedoes. Full speed ahead.”
It may not be good strategy to go after Fox News in that it gives them publicity and ratings. However, the White House does need to keep in mind that going on a Fox show has different rules than those honored by the other networks.
Fox has no honor. They lie to get the ratings they want and to further their agenda which is the agenda of the Republican Party. How can Rahm Emmanuel or Hilary Clinton go on a show that is deliberately designed to put them in the worst possible light?
An exchange of ideas assumes that the ideas are true and based on facts. There are rules of debate; Fox acknowledges no rules that require that they be "fair and balanced", surely the most cynical phrase ever coined by a publicist.
Like Fox News or not, one thing you cannot argue with is the success of their programs. The ratings are double that of most competitors with re-runs in the middle of the night getting higher numbers than what is run on MSNBC or even CNN.
If the Obama administration wants to tak on Fox, they should do so knowing they are telling a large majority of cable news viewers that they do not care about their beliefs. I would say if Fox is not factual, the administration should be on that very network telling the audience that and making their case. By attacking them in this childish manner, it gives credence to what they are saying and really makes Obama and his administration look affraid to deal with opposing views head on.
While I may not agree with everything Fox says, they are an important part of the debate of ideas that this country should be having. Shame on the administration for trying to shut a voice down. That is not what America was founded on and certainly not what I hope it becomes...we do not have a media controlled by the Government here, nor should we. Fox has every right to say what they want and if they have facts to back it up, more power to them. Don't run from a fight Mr. President. Stand up for what you believe in.
I think it is about time that some one sets FOX news straight. They constantly distort the news.
At first it was little things that they oh so politely apologized for. Then when people sort of accepted it, they started pushing bigger and bigger distortions. Now they never tell the truth about anything. Even the news they do report is slanted and they give an entirely different headline than they action is.
If they are going to do stuff like this I think they should get a license to be a republican infomerical station. That would solve the problem. Then everyone would know they are a bunch of baldfaced liars.
She ought to stop, this is a no win situation for her. She is over her head and there is proof she made those statements.
Jack you have an administration that has two wars going on neither which they can win. They have healthcare that no one can agree on and has caused dissension within their own party. They lost a bid for the Summer Olympics to Rio and spent 10's of thousands of tax payers dollars doing it. They need to win something and that something might just be a minor debate with a news network that does not swoon over each and everything the Obama administration does. The news media is entitled to an opinion. Unfortunately when it disagrees with Obamas administration it is labeled as "not a news organization so much as it has a perspective." Bottom line is this folks. Not everyone is in love with Obama and the democrats. Deal with it.
I don't think that it is wise to spend to much time on confronting Fox news. I think it is pretty easy for any viewer to be able to distinguish for them selves All you have to do is watch. I mean after just a couple of minutes, you know it's really not worth the bother.
The White House will be comitting political suicide if it continues to pick a fight with Fox News. Millions of Republican, Independants, and
moderate liberal Democrats watch and relate with Fox News. To go after the most popular cable news network and its viewers, and make the statement that they are not a "real" news organization, will only galvanize their disagreements with the White House and President Obama. Spirited debate on "the issues" is what makes democracy great...trying to silence or marginalize those who don't see things your way is the act of cowards who can't substantiate there own position in the face of opposition...see Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Chavez. This may start a firestorm that could take down the Democratic majority if clear thinking minds don't put the brakes on this foolishness! If you keep poking a bear in the eye with a stick, you just might get eaten!
Jack: I don't know if it is good strategy or not--they are just responding to "fire-with-fire." In politics---what's good for the goose--is good for the gander.
Jack, if President Obama were to treat Fox News as anything BUT an opponent, he would be guilty of the kind of naivete the clowns at Fox are constantly accusing him of.
Sometimes the truth really hits home, and this is what Ms. Dunn is so worried about, and is acting like a child, striking out at Fox News, because this channel is not going to coddle anyone, but present the facts as they really are. Obviously the WH is not used to this treatment, since they are 'protected' by other news sources.
Hi Jack: Obama and his administration only want to talk to or preach to people that agree with them. Fox News doesn't agree with them all time; the people at the town hall meetings that didn't agree with them were organized goons. I neither believe or agree with the figures they are throwing around on health care; they can't even get their own numbers correct. For weeks Obama has been using the figure of 49 million uninsured Americans then he goes on David Letterman and uses a figure of 30 million. 19 million is a lot of people, I think it's over half the population of Canada. John King asked 3 Rep's on Sunday to give him an yes or no answer to a specific question. None did. I think the American People are tired of being preached at by these arrogant politicians(I did have another word in there but thought it best to change it) and expected to believe everything they say. Sorry if I got off track.
Roger, Charlotte, NC
Hey, If Obama wants to create jobs and save money at the same time, lets have the IRS do an audit on every Congressman/Woman and Senator. I'm sure it would be a profitable operation. Sorry. Forgot, they are above the law.
While the White House is right to point out that Fox News is not a news organization (we all know that), going after them will give them even more publicity. They only deserve a contemptuous silence.
Yes, it is good strategy to call them on their lies. During the presidential campaign I read a positive report on the Fox News website concerning part of Obama's tax plan that would go after tax cheats with secret off shore bank accounts. Before I could call my daughter to have her look at the good thing Fox had on their site, the report was gone. Why? Because its parent company has 40 some numbered accounts in the Bahamas and other countries that accommodate Americans looking to avoid U.S. taxes. Yes. Fox needs to be exposed.
San Clemente, Cal.
FOX has crossed a line from responsible journalism and legitamate critisicm to pure antagonism. If Obama lets them continue, they will not stop until they have shoved someone over the deep end, and then who knows what will happen? They are oversized playground bullies, and Obama needs to step up and call them out.
"It's not really news. It's pushing a point of view" is true with almost every Reporter and News Media. They all want to lead you to belive that "What" they say is the truth! But for the Goverment to select out one to berate is wrong. Is the Obama administration seeking to limit the freedom of speech because someone does not like what they are saying and doing? Ms. Dunn is in the wrong, if she so admires the Communist leader Mao Tse Tung, then maybe she and her friends should go live in China under communist rules. I love the freedoms that we have here in America. I think that CNN should look at little closer at what Obama and Dunn are trying to take away from all Americans.
It isn't all about strategy. The White House has the right to say the truth and act on it,
Terrible strategy, Jack. Every time they mention Fox their ratings go up another point as people want to see what all the fuss is. Then when they start watching they realize it's not so bad after all.
It sure would be nice if the White House were worried about more important stuff, but I guess they already fixed health care, global warming, the economy and world peace.
I don't remember George Bush going after MSNBC. He had reason to with Olbermann and Matthews attacking him every night.
fox news is a good news source just like cnn, abc, cbs and i hate to say it sometimes mnsbc it's good for us to see different sides of the stories you report on to give a more accurate of the news that we see
She didn't just quote Mao... She said he was "one of her two favorite political philosophers". ONE OF HER TWO FAVORITE POLITICAL PHILOSOPHERS. Are you kidding? Conservatives couldn't write the stuff that some in this administration are saying. What more would it take for some in the media to realize that sometimes at least now and then, Fox and other media critical of the administration, might have a point. Isn't that the value of a free press?
Jack, I hope you don't think its something wrong with wanting to talk directly to the people who are voting. Remember when we had evening news and morning news and the anchor didn't have time to give us his "spin" on events? Anchors reported and let us decide. The only commentary we got was Andy Rooney on Sunday evenings.
What has this country come to when college dropouts and general underachievers like Beck and Hannity are considered viable sources for news? How does an organization like ACORN, that gets $55 million a year from the govt. engulf an entire network's news while defense contractors are on camera engaging in the most lewd behavior while receiving billions of our taxpayer money is ignored?
I kind of miss the days of 30 minute news. Don't you?
The problem, Jack, is unique in television history. FOX purports itself to be a news network. But they do not maintain journalistic integrity. Instead, FOX clearly spews out untrue and inflamatory GOP talking points as if they are proven genuine news. As a result, you get a low-information viewer who is confused or unnecessarily polarized based on falsehoods. Somebody has to point this out.
why not. Lets face it, its not news anyway. Its all Faux news all the time 24/7 . Hours of misinformation to fill the uneducated with. Make sure they stay in panic mode and fearful . The GOP doesn't know the meaning of truth. but luckily there is karma and they are paying big time now for all the years of abuse & lies
Of course it is a good strategy politically speaking. Fox is the only mainstream media source that challenges the current administration, the rest of the media is much more deferential. That makes Fox an opponent of Obama and his administration needs to discredit them just like he would attempt to discredit any other political opponent. Of course I think the real question should be do we want politicians spending their time attacking their opposition's view points, or do we want them spending their time explaining their own viewpoints to us?
Fox news is kind of like the school bully. Unless you call their bluff and call them out they will try to get away with anything they can. I am sure they like the attention though, it makes for great ratings even if the "news" is not excactly great.
I don't watch Foz News anymore, really don;t like BECK, I think they are all a bunch of narrow minded people that like to get eveybody upset. They don;t tell the truth, they twist everything aroung to match THEIR way of thinking. They put a spin on everything as long as it suits them. It is hard to believe people listen to those loud mouth
The White House has not STARTED A WAR, is not GOING AFTER, and is not IN A FEUD with Fox
Fox is the only one that wants to keep themselves in this supposed controversy for their own ratings
The White House has simply expressed ( and very correctly so ) that Fox is NOT a NEWS organization
News is based of FACTS and TRUTH, both of which Fox knows nothing about ... end of story
If Fox does not like hearing the truth about themselves ... who cares
The White House has long ago moved on and has much more important things on it's plate
No. Bad strategy. I think the DNC should be doing the attacking, not the white house.
The best thing for Republicans is to have Anita "Mao is Great" Dunn as Communications Director! Please, I beg CNN and the White house to go after FOX. Arrest Rush, Hannity et al!!! Please, trash the 1st Amendment. Sweet victory in '10 and '12 for conservatives is coming.
Jack, please say something in Obama's defense, you're his homey after all!!!
Going after Fox News indicates to me that the White House is worried. Finally someone with backbone is exposing the corruption and background of advisers in the Administration.
No it's not a good idea, why worry about it, everybody knows that it's pure junk that they are spinning, all Americans will never forget WHO was in office when these wars were started, and how badly our economy has been hurt because of it. Fox and Rush one in the same , all junk all the time. try not to pay attention, Maybe they will just disappear!!
Fox News IS NOT a legitimate news organization, but the White House's new strategy will only serve to elevate their stature. Ignore the Becks, the Hannitys and the O'Reillys and let them yell themselves hoarse. Smart people know that it's only lies and deception Fox is peddling; dignifying it with a response is beneath President Obama.
Enough already! Stop reporting anything about Glenn Beck. He is an insane nut job (OR acts like an insane nut job for $$$ of which he gets plenty). His opinion is of NO VALUE to anyone except other insane nut jobs (re: tea baggers, birthers, secessionists, flat earthers, alien abductees, friends of leprechauns, and other members of the lunatic fringe) Stop enabling this psychotic fraud by constantly reporting what he has to say about...well, anything!
NO! This bickering with the likes of Beck and O'Reilly just makes the Obama White House look petty and weak, and only helps the ratings for Fox News. HORRIBLE job of time management for Team Obama! Spend your time wrestling with senators over a public option!
Going after Fox is a great strategy. It is much easier to win the War Against Fox than it is to win the tougher stuff, like getting Iran under control, ditto Afghanistan, ditto The Deficit, ditto Congress... you get the idea.
They act like a bunch of evangelical republicans who are at their very best telling lies and trying to make everyone else look bad if they don't agree with them.
I think Fox News is another example of how little accountability is not part of the American life. Fox News can’t be responsible for its action. I don’t think Fox news really knows what it is doing. I don’t think the White House need to have a fight with something like Fox News, it really not beneficial.
This is not a good strategy. While I am not fan of Fox News, history provides list of administrations that have taken on the press, or media, and have lost. The White House should focus on governing the country and allow surragates, such as the DNC or other Democratic leaning organizations, fight Fox News.
No. The National Enquirer will be deeply hurt.
Why doesn't the Communist Anita Dunn take her favorite philosopher Mao Tse Tung's lead and abolish FoxNews forever. PROBLEM SOLVED!!!
All the White House is doing is building credibility for Fox News, its commentators and news staff. This type of dishonest, incredulous reporting and commentary has always existed in the political scene and always will. The real answer is to find ways to encourage, if not educate, our voting public to rely on multiple news and comment sources, both liberal and conservative, before making up their minds on a given issue. The only way to diminish the impact of extremists is to have a voting public who values thoughtful, diverse and credible information sources.
There is NEWs and there is COMMENTARY....FOX News is a combination like all cable news channels....only problem is FOX hasn't figured out which is which! News is what is actually reported by all the media, commentary is just what it means....comments by someone or some group hoping to get your attention.
Fox news should be destroyed by any means necessary.Right wing talk be it on radio or tv has is the single most factor for the decay of America.
It is a stupid idea to go after FOX news. People know what they are watching and they can make an independent judgment without the guidance from the White House. Fox News is a little bit more than a watchdog, a pit bull perhaps, but that is better than MSNBC, which finds nothing wrong with Obama administration. Give me a break. Get lost Rahm Manuel. How about Anita Dunn whose ideal philosopher is Mao who killed million of people and started a culture revolution. It put Chinese back for at least 10 years. That is a great philosopher for Obama administration!
Jack, why are you surprised that the Obama Administration does not want to be asked tough questions from the other side? They love Blitzer, Obermann, Madow, and Mathews because they are not news programs either, but they sell Obama B.S. 24×7. What are they actually afraid of other than having a debate and dialogue that could educate the voters. I think they are afraid that the average voter would find that they don't have a clue on how to lead or govern this country. The proof of that is Fox News ratings are souring and the Obama Administration is still in campaign mode trying to convince us that the President's ideas will work. Mr. President, if you are having trouble implementing your ideas, do you seriously believe taking it out on Fox News will help you in this regard?
Should the White House go after Fox News? Go after, no.
Though the White House should contradict the misleading fear and hate that much of Fox News generates.
Extreme bias ideology, such as Fox and even MSNBC at times, is not any different than propaganda and the one sided perceived truth spewed by State run news entities such as ITAR-TASS and Xinhua.
There is no objectivity in most of Fox's reporting, and isn't that communistic?
Jack, if Fox is fighting back, its because the White House is landing blows. For the White House, this is likely not an unwelcome development. By the way, thank you CNN for letting Glen Beck leave your network.
Boone, North Carolina
This Administration has critical issues that need to be dealt with, the economy, job losses, home foreclosures, supporting our young men and women in uniform that are away from their families fighting for our freedom in Afghanistan and other foreign countries, health care reform, etc... This Administration needs to stop acting like a spoiled child with wealth and power and begin making important decisions for the future of America (or the land of the free and the home of the brave will be a thing of the past).
I don't think they're "going after" Fox News as much as telling everyone why they are ignoring Fox. In fact, the probably hope Fox will react the way it always does when challenged...but having its group of maniac correspondents act even more crazy and biased. Plus, when does Fox ever report on the news without commentary?
better the president doing the fighting then his old lady .
Why not, Fox news is a arm of the republican party. Thats why Cheney would only let his staff have the white house news station on FOX cable. If someone throw a rock at you throw two back. Its about time Obama toughen up to the haters.
I don't think the white house should do it, but somebody definitely needs to. Fox spreads rumors and hear-say and people actually believe they are getting facts. When did news channels turn into opinion based talking point shows? I miss the days when you could actually take what you were being told by the anchor as fact, not his/her opinion.
I would rather see Fox News lose it's FCC license to broadcast. Any news organization that is blatantly biased should lose its broadcast licence.
Yes, I think we should revoke the first amendment for anyone in opposition to the central committee, I mean the Democrats. I'm amazed at the hypocrisy that continues no matter which party is in office. Long live Mao I guess.
A politician cannot win a fight with the press. God help us all if this ever becomes the case......regardless of party affiliation.
This is not going to play out well for the President since no American, regardless of party affiliation, will tolerate a loser.
Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and others of their ilk aren't worth a response from the White House. Good advice from my father was "never get into a pissing contest with a skunk".
No, it is not a good strategy for the White House to go after Fox News. It makes me wonder what Obama is so worried about. Is he afraid that Fox will reveal something about him that no other News Network will, or is it Obama's insatiable need to be Loved & Admired by the whole world? I could care less about Fox or any other Network, but I do care about the important things going on, like Jobs-HealthCare-the Wars, Obama needs to Refocus!
I say: "about time!" somebody called out Fox News for what it has admitted – that it operates like an editorial board. I think the other media really missed this incredible declaration. I'm familiar with the Chicago Tribune's editorial page and our own local newspaper – these sections feature opinion – not facts, not news, sometimes not true. To continue to treat Fox "news" the same as the other news organizations is to allow lies, half-truths, opinions and innuendo to masquerade as facts, truths, and real news. The American people deserve real, truthful news – upon which they then can form their own opinions. Print the truth and don't be afraid. Good for you Obama!
I won't say that it's good that the WHite House go after them, but I do believe that the government should d emand that all news outlets be fair and balanced in their coverage and reporting and possess some eithics. I don't believe that FOX has either.
Yes, President Obama should even go so far as to interview with Beck. It would be very entertaining to watch President Obama put Beck in his place once and for all. I'll bet FOX would get the highest rating ever for that show!
Absolutely and really they have no choice. Fox news has gotten so out of control with their hateful rhetoric that they are now stirring the pot enough to scrape up the real loonies capable of harming our President. Enough already. I'd love to see Fox News shut down in whatever capacity possible. Their reporting is irresponsible and serves only to divide a great people with yesterday's ignorance.
I think that this administration needs to learn what fredom of press is. Just beacuse they don't agree with anything Obama is doing, they still have the right to say so. This makes the administration look either really desprate for approval or really scared of idea's other than theirs.
Aaron, valley springs, ca
I have conservative friends that watch Fox News and nothing else. It’s almost a cult thing. Fox is an opinion piece, not news reporting. I have yet to see a lead-in to a story and a video clip of the topic they are discussing. It’s all opinion, generally distorted or out and out lies with no real backup of the facts. It’s all about what they, and the Republican Party, want you to believe without questioning it. It’s a shame Fox viewers don’t occasionally watch any real news stations and see what a sham Fox News really is.
I don't care for most of the national media. They don't seem to know anything about the middle of the country, only what is happening on the coasts. But, Faux News is among the worst, pushing Rupert's agenda 24-7. Why patriotic Americans can't see the former Australian, former Brit and now naturalized U.S. citizen for what he is is beyond me.
This reminds me of the character in the movie, 'Network,' who hollers 'I'm mad as hell, and I won't take it anymore!' When it runs out, I don't plan to renew my Wall Street Journal subscription, and I had my son over today to teach me how to use the parental controls on my cable. All Fox channels are blocked. In the end, the Administration won't win against a 24/7 cable channel, but I don't have to watch.
Rick, Medina, OH
I do agree that the White House's efforts should be put to use on the amalgam of problems that currently face us; however, I am glad to see someone finally call out Fox News! There is a difference in news delivery when one anchor encourages its listeners to attend a national tea party, while another merely reports on its occurrence. I try most days to listen to Fox News, just to get a variety of reports, but I find myself turning the channel most of the time because of the evident bias. Jack, I think it's time they give you more than just the intermittent five minutes during The Situation Room! :)
It is not a good strategy for the White House to go after Fox News for not being news because we already know that “Fox News” is a tabloid. However, someone should say a few words about CNN for all these “special reports” about cheating death and being Latino in America, which just so happen to have the same topics as recently released books by CNN reporters. News? No! Commercial programing? Yes!
FOX really is not a news organization. Way too biased for that. Should be treated like any other special interest group.
Jack, As far as I am concerned we are all force fed too much of every little thing that goes on in the world. As far as Fox News is concerned, I leave the room if my husband has it on the set. Yes, we are both political junkies, enough is enough. Let the President do as many things as he can to put the country back on track. All of you should give him a fighting chance to do his job without diagraming every sentence he speaks.
Granted, starting a war of words with Fox is a huge waste of time considering all of of other problems, but I think it's time that the president get in their face after the ridiculous and despicable things they've said about him and his agenda. You can be pushed just so far and then you have to call them out for the liars that they are!
The Whitehouse should simply send all the Fox News reporters and associates an assortment of pacifiers. They have done nothing but cried ever since Obama and the Dems. Took the Whitehouse. The Whitehouse has no reason for concern of what Fox News reports, anyone with partial intelligence knows they aren’t a legitimate news source.
This would be considered really silly if it wasn't so pathetically true. Could there be more this than 'just being mad at FOX'. It appears the White House is on a tirade. I am curious WHY WHY WHY??
That's enough. Cut his mic, Wolf. Cut it!
While I'm no fan of many of the Fox news talking heads, it is a slippery, dangerous slope for a President or his administration to snipe and war with a news organization no matter how much that news outlet is disliked within the walls of the White House; it also demeans the office of the Presidency which is above any the vitriol and rhetoric the media throws the President's way. Toughen-up Mr. President, there are bigger wars to fight!
It's about time someone made this clear about Fox News.. It is something the rest of the free world has seen clearly for years.
Fox is just an overinflated balloon boy, and has been for years
I think we may state that Fox News goes after the Obama Administration. They only give one side, I watch for myself. Why should they waste their time only for their words to be twisted for another meaning by Fox, Beck, etc.
I think we should stop listening to Dunn, Axelrod and Rahm....they are blinded by their leftist ideology and see the world like my university professers see it.
They are hurting the white house with this strategy... they should apply same to NBC
Jack, Fox news slogan is: "We report the news, and you decide, but everybody knows that: "They report the news, but, They Decide".
Its fox news...that speaks for itself; why is the white house wasting time and resources?
It is very good. FOX News is a rabid, bigoted arm of the GOP. They lie, incite birthers, Teabaggers and ignore important Obama events to cover dancing with stars. Yes, the WH is correct to call them out and to ignore them. Murdoch, Ailes, Hannity and Beck are pigs that declared war on this President immediately he took office.
The WH is right-on.
I think for anyone regardless of being president or a civilian is wasting time if dealing with fox news on any level
The White House shouldn't waste too much time on this but if they really mean business kick them out of the White House press room. I think that would make more of a statement than childish bickering. FOX NEWS is a joke
Even though it may seem like a mud slinging fight, i do believe the White House should highlight the truth about Fox news really being an arm of the GOP. Their news reporting always leans hard to the right and it's very opinionated to favor the republicans but sadly not to let the viewer decide for him/herself.
You bet! I have been waiting for the White House to call out FOX for their hype, false statements and hysteria. They do NOT report news, they incite, mislead, then say in your face Obama! How much can anyone put in that position take?
To quote a line from a famous george lucas movie"this bickering is pointless. For the Obama Administration to focus it's wrath on the fox news network is wrong. Fox has been pointing out from the very begining the things that this country ought to deal with; loss of jobs, the economy, and the blatant corporate greed that shows no signs of slowing down. Obama and his co-horts should take the high road and deal with what is screwed up in this country, but they instead choose to act like children when they should act like the adults they are
It's a good idea for anyone to go after Fox News. They are, simply put, the most out-right biased and incendiary media network in the world.
You bet they should. It's about time someone calls out the blatant falsities that the right spews out daily. when something like congressmen Graysons 'die quickly' comment is met with blatant attack yet congressmen Wilson is able to shout 'you lie' at the president and is lauded a patriot shows how politically biased they are.
write them off CNN, there's no credibility anymore with Fox.
Hell yes they should go after Fox noise! It's about time someone called a spade a spade!
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