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October 7th, 2009
04:00 PM ET

When will we see health care reform?

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Yet another delay when it comes to health care reform. The Senate Finance committee vote on its bill, which was expected as early as yesterday, will be pushed back - possibly into next week.

This is so the Congressional Budget Office can look at the nearly $900 billion bill... to make sure its cost and revenue estimates are what they are supposed to be.

Meanwhile tax experts say this Senate bill would impose $29 billion more in taxes on health care industries than originally thought - this is just another reason for Republicans to continue fighting reform. It also is another sign of how far health care reform has to go before it can become law.

Consider this: there are five health care bills in all... two in the Senate and three in the House. All but this one have passed their committees. When and if the finance committee passes this bill, it will be combined with other Senate bill into one piece of legislation - which will then be debated on the floor of the Senate and voted on. Same thing in the House - one bill will be created from the three that exist now - then debate and an eventual vote.

If the final Senate and House versions both pass, the two bills will then go to a conference committee to be reconciled and put into final form before being voted on again by both houses of Congress. If that bill passes, only then will it go to President Obama for his signature.

Piece of cake.

Here’s my question to you: When do you think we'll see health care reform?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Tom writes:
We will not see real health reform with the current system. Insurance companies try to maximize their profits while health care institutions do the same; two different and conflicting goals. In this system, profits can grow when consumers suffer, because the measures of company profits versus customer satisfaction do not depend on each other. When we have a system where the goals of health care providers and payment providers (whatever form they take) are the same, we will have reform. Not before.

J. writes:
The politics of postponement are alive and well in Washington, DC. Even if health care reform is passed this year, we will not see the first wave enacted for at least 4 years. It will probably be phased in over 6-10 years. Only legislation backed by lobbyists is enacted in a few months.

Alice from Alexander, Arkansas writes:
Next year. I don't understand why we can't get this done. Other nations have been able to come up with a plan that works for their people, but for some reason we can't… If senior citizens and the poor are entitled to basic health care, so should the rest of the American people.

John from Cleveland writes:
When the Democrats get the courage to do what all the polls say their constituents want, instead of doing what the insurance companies and their lobbyists want. Which may be never.

C.K. from Honolulu writes:
It may be a watered-down bill or one that is "slammed through" with narrow Democratic majorities. However, given Obama's absolute political need for "a health care reform" bill to pass, something will come through.

Anthony writes:
Not till next year – or ever. And, the final bill will be so watered down, no "real" reform will happen. The fact is the Democrats and Pres. Obama have dropped the ball on this – totally. What the hell is the point of a majority if you don't use it?


Filed under: Health care
soundoff (192 Responses)
  1. Remo, in beautiful downtown Pflugerville, Texas

    Jack, at this rate, 3012.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:18 pm |
  2. SCOTT ROSE --- PANAMA CITY, FL

    With Barak Hussein Obama as president, with his socialist agenda, never I hope.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:19 pm |
  3. Birddog in Mississippi

    By the end of this year a bill will be passed. One point that should be made - by adding a public option to the bill, the costs in new taxes will be lessened by about 100 billion over ten years. This is because those people receiving subsidies would have the option of buying a lower priced health insurance plan. Without a public option, subsidies will be about 20% more than what they would be without it - the 20% Insurance Companies use for profits, CEO salaries, advertising, and lobbying. I don't know about everybody else, but I don't mind paying taxes so that more people get health care - that's good for all of us. But I really don't want to pay taxes so that the Insurance companies get more money to lobby Congress.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:19 pm |
  4. Kirk (Apple Valley, Minnesota)

    Probably not in my lifetime. There are far too many special interests out there for any kind of reasonable health care reform to even come close to passing. If people were really serious about health care reform rather than the money that can be made from it, we'd have something in a heartbeat. But since the almighty dollar takes precedence over health, we lose. As usual.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:20 pm |
  5. Emily, Summit, NJ

    It's not coming out of the Finance Committee because even those obstreperous, corporate-owned Blue Dogs know Americans want a Real Health Insurance Reform bill with a Strong Public Option.

    Max Baucus and his buddies are trying to come up with a spin on the situation that they think Americans might buy. Too bad they sell American intelligence short.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:21 pm |
  6. Ron

    Jack this is the USA and I am ashamed at the politicians and citizens that are putting up this smoke screen.The majority on both sides had no problem giving Cheney a blank check to kill innocent people in Iraq,but to save American lives it has to be negotiated is absolutely amazing.Shame on you all.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:22 pm |
  7. Andy in Vancouver, BC

    Not soon enough

    October 7, 2009 at 3:23 pm |
  8. Vivian Fauntleroy, Largo MD

    I don't know, Jack. It if the Health Care Industry and those in Congress beholden to it have their way, we'll not see HCR before the Easter Sunday after Judgment Day. At which point who will give a darn.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:23 pm |
  9. Chrisi-Illinois

    It a Joke Jack! There is no healthcare reform, all the Democrats are trying to do is come up with something to say fact for themselves and the President who NEVER should have persued this venture until the Economy showed significant signs of recovery with MILLIONS of jobless Americans back to being employed again. This entire healthcare reform has been nothing but a exercise in furtility. Bills piling up in the Senate because they are totally fixated this debacle while over 400.000 unemployed Americans wait for them to pass a bill thats been in the Senate for 3 weeks that extends jobless benefits for 13 weeks. These people have exhausted their benefits in August/September with nothing coming in. There are NO jobs! Healthcare Reform?? Its just 2 words made up with no meaning!

    October 7, 2009 at 3:24 pm |
  10. Mark, Sarasota, FL

    Never Jack, we will be forced buying health insurance and the insurance companies will make mega money.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
  11. Denny from Tacoma, WA

    If we get health care reform at all it will be in the favor of the private health insurance industry because their lobbyists have successfully purchased the U.S. Congress on this issue. The end result will be that all Americans will have to purchase health insurance, if at all possible, and those with pre-existing health disorders will not be denied, but their premiums will be outrageous. Then all of our politicians will revel in their "good deeds."

    October 7, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
  12. Molita Texas

    Jack, this is not health "care" reform – it's health "insurance" reform and will never help folks. Until the illegal immigrant issue is addressed there will NEVER be any reform. And Nancy Pelosi wants to give them more money, health care & freedoms at taxpayers cost! What is going on in this country? Has everyone gone insane? Did the universe flip?

    October 7, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
  13. Susan from Twin Falls Idaho

    When we elect men and women with common sense. That is about the same time pigs will fly. in a nut shell, we are up the grump stump.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
  14. Steve M

    We'll see Health Care reform when the Republicans finally get out of the back pockets of the multibillionaire Health Insurance Company CEOs they are protecting and instead start caring about the plight of average Americans who are one illness away from bankruptcy, which most likely means it'll be a long long time before we see any real change.

    Steve M
    Killeen, TX

    October 7, 2009 at 3:28 pm |
  15. Donald in CA

    You will never see true health reform. The banks are to big to fail and the big health insurance companies are to big to fail. Plus, three quarters of the politicians are in the pockets of the health insurance companies. Also, the GOP has convinced a good percentage of Americans that health reform is BAD for them.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:30 pm |
  16. Tom, Avon, Me, The Heart of Democracy

    After the poll results sink in for the Congress people coming up for re-election, they'll grow deaf to the insurance lobbyists and start to hear their electorates again.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:30 pm |
  17. Ken in Mt

    When we can reach political consensus that the current system is broken and no ones ox will get gored and we don’t have to pay for it. In other words when H*ll freezes over.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:32 pm |
  18. Vy

    Healthcare Reform is NOT going to happen - I don't care what kind of bill is passed - without true competition - from the government. President Obama may as well take that $900 BILLION and hand it over to the Aetnas and United Healthcares of the world. By mandating that people carry insurance, all they have done, in their ultimate wisdom, is to add more money to the bottom line of these large institutions. And it will NOT result in lower premiums - only increased profits.

    I've totally lost interest in healthcare reform now that I see that there's truly no REFORM that's going to happen.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:34 pm |
  19. Michael Roepke - Dallas, TX

    The Republicans say that the Health care bill that will be passed by the end of the year will mean the end of our Health care system. The Democrats say that because of the many compromises, the Health care bill is not real reform. Both are right. When we look back in 10 years or so, it will be this bill that will be called the first step toward universal, single payer Health Care. And the first step toward a Healthy America.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:36 pm |
  20. AndyZ Lynn, MA

    In the words of Jiminy Cricket: When you wish upon a star. If you really want to clean up the partisanship in Congress, then legislate that each member has to post every penny they receive in political contributions to include their PAC's. Then the voters in their district/state can see who bought their vote. I am at the point where I believe that political contributions should be outlawed. After all, they way they are used today they become nothing more than a legalized bribe.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:38 pm |
  21. OBDAG in Appleton, WI

    We won't see a health reform bill until there is enough complaints to Congress about getting to work and agreeing on a compromise. Pretty much this means the Republican party representatives in Congress honestly need to get to work immediately. The difficulty here is simply getting the Republicans to act like resonsible citizens and do the right thing for the majority of Americans. I expect we will see a bill before the end of October but may be quicker if voters were to send millions of Emails to the capital or make calls to their elected representatives from both parties. Actually Jack, you should be working on your Email to your rep right now, so get going!

    October 7, 2009 at 3:40 pm |
  22. Katiec Pekin, IL

    I think we will see Health Care Reform passed by the end of the year.
    It is something our country desperately needs and wants.
    That is if the Democrats can overcome the negativity from the
    republicans and the media.
    In your article, Jack, you tried to insinuate taxes are what is holding the republicans back. Who are you trying to kid? The republicans do
    not want health care reform, period, as they want their big business
    to remain in control.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:41 pm |
  23. LUCI - ILLINOIS

    In effect by Nov. 15th. 2009. It is very important for us to get health care passed, so it is good to take time and get it right. If the party of no, had their way, we would all die off unless we are wealthy. Let's get it passed.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:43 pm |
  24. chris

    jack,
    we will see a true health care reform that we want and need win pig's fly or hell freezes over

    October 7, 2009 at 3:43 pm |
  25. Raoul New Orleans, La

    Why is the President wasting his time with people who lie about his citizenship, policies, and honesty? Jack, we'll see health care reform when the Obama administration finally figures out it can enact a public option with a signing statement. The opposition has shown no desire to compromise. How many Congressional Republicans voted for the stimulus bill? None. Just get it done!

    October 7, 2009 at 3:43 pm |
  26. Simonsays/Orlando

    The Democrats have enough votes to pass it any time they want. They can't blame the Republicans for their inaction. Health care reform is being held up by their in-party fighting and their fear of what there constituents are going to do if they pass a bill that will raise taxes to pay for it. Don't expect reform to happen any time in 2009.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:43 pm |
  27. Flyingwolf, Manchester NH

    When will we get health care reform? When enough people open their eyes to the trickery and deception of the insurance companies. All the rationing and denial of service that the company shills claim the Government will do, the companies are doing now and are spending over $600,000 a day to cover their assets.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:44 pm |
  28. Roger Lafontaine

    When will we see health reform? Apparently when I am dead and buried and we have run out of wars to wage and CIA assassinations and all those other priorities.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:45 pm |
  29. Pablo in Arlington Texas

    Dear Jack
    I am 62 and I am afraid we will not see genuine health care reform until the Senate Democrats realize they are the majority party and get some guts. The way things look now, that means not in my lifetime!
    If you will forgive an NFL analogy, President Obama is a great quarterback but he can't get that TD if he doesn't have an offensive line.

    Pablo
    in Arlington Texas

    October 7, 2009 at 3:45 pm |
  30. chris

    jack,
    we will see a health care reform that we the american people want and not that they want to shove down at us with out reading it or letting us know what's really in it it will be when pig's fly or hell freeze over

    October 7, 2009 at 3:46 pm |
  31. Matthew from Orange,CA

    When there is profit in it, unfortunately.

    The poor had better health care when Jesus was giving it out for free. I'm looking at you, Christian Conservatives!

    October 7, 2009 at 3:47 pm |
  32. Wm, Penna

    Jack,
    Health care reform? When? When the folks who own the legislators send their K Street minions to Capital Hill with new instructions to have health care changed.
    Maybe after the next financial melt down and there is nothing left of Uncle Sam's credit.
    Maybe never. We seem to be able to run our economy for the 30 million citizens with real wealth, 90% of it all. The 300 million of us, "The Have-Nots", who own the rest, all 10% of it, will just have to pull ourselves up. The military is hiring. Then after two or three years we have a chance to join the private mercenaries for $300,000.00/yr. The ever shouting recovering drug addicts say it can be done, it must be true. Twenty million right-wing-nuts would not lie to us? Would they?

    October 7, 2009 at 3:50 pm |
  33. Jerry Jacksonville, Fl.

    I think the handwriting on the wall is a lot like the credit card reform, the congress gave the banks time to really put the screws to the people with credit card debts and just to be frank they are doing the same thing with the health care reform, sure we may get a health care package but the insurance companies will have time to raise rates out of sight and force most people to cancel their policies, so what have we gained, I may just sell everything I have, hide the money and let Medicaid pick up the tab and any medical expenses.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:51 pm |
  34. Matt in Blacksburg, VA

    Jack, this is Congress we're talking about here. Healthcare will get passed when both sides stop acting like spoiled children and work together to actually help the people who elected them. In other words, this might take a while.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:51 pm |
  35. Teddy

    As soon as the people we elected actually does what they are suppose to do......when was the las time that happened jack?? the real question is.....when will they do there jobs??

    October 7, 2009 at 3:57 pm |
  36. Annie, Atlanta

    When "we the people" wrestle our government back from the grips of big business. Honestly, I don't see that happening. Most of us don't pay attention enough to even know what's going on. Very sad.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:57 pm |
  37. Richard, Syracuse, NY

    We will see Health Care when the Health Care Industry stops backing the Republican Party and all their lies.

    This is far too important of an issue to allow the Health Care Millionaires to ruin any open debate on the TRUTH and the issues.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:57 pm |
  38. Jim Amstutz Boulder City, NV

    When our stellar Representatives and Senators in Washington stop perpetuating the graft that is called lobbying and start representing the people. In other words - not very soon.

    October 7, 2009 at 3:58 pm |
  39. Teddy

    Charleston South Carolina, Its time for an american POLITICAL revolution.....enough of the Democrats....enough of the Republicans....america....its time...

    October 7, 2009 at 4:00 pm |
  40. Delia

    We'll see health care about the same time we see jobs - 2010.

    Unfortunately, health care reform will pass, but it will not be good for the country. It will be GREAT for the insurance companies! We'll be forced to buy insurance and they'll come up with more creative ways of not covering us so they can keep the profits. Preventitive health care is all the rage - we'll have to prove we're dieting and exercising or they won't cover us. Yeah, like cancer cares if you're thin or fat!

    Then, in a couple of years, the GOP will come back and say, "see, that's why I didn't vote for it!", even though they will be the very people who put in the pork for the insurance company.

    BOHICA- Bend over, here it comes again!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
  41. Jim

    Jack,

    I think we'll see a bill on Obama's desk before the end of the year. If it goes into 2010, Republicans will begin paying a political price for their foot-dragging.

    Jim
    Reno, Nevada

    October 7, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
  42. Robert Meskill

    Never Jack,
    Those guy's up there just don't give a crap, Except where's my pay check, I'm tired, I want to go home, I wonder if I can go home early. There will be no health care reform for anybody.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:02 pm |
  43. Darren

    2013, but it'll be watered down so much, being written my the medical industry for the medical industry, calling it reform would be in title alone.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:04 pm |
  44. stan jax,fl

    We won't see it until civility is restored by the far irght(and sometimes left-knee jerk reaction)and Americans are able to hear the facts, and even find out where to read them. It's obvious to me , I read and listen carefully. There is no doubt that basically infinite amounts of money is being spent by the big insurance companies on their lobbyists to stop any dialogue, forget about CIVILITY!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm |
  45. Alice,AR

    Next year. I don't understand why we can't get this done. Other nations have been able to come up with a plan that works for their people, but for some reason we can't. If we are waiting for someone to come up with the perfect plan, we will never get one We must start somewhere. If senior citizens and the poor are entitled to basic health care, so should the rest of the American people.

    Alice
    Alexander, AR

    October 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm |
  46. T. G. from the virgin islands

    Hopefully we might have actual health reform by Thanksgiving, if Congress can get its act together.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:05 pm |
  47. Slotl, Marietta, Ga

    REAL healthcare reform will NEVER happen for two reasons:

    1. The GOP party of "NO". It doesn't matter what is in the bill, the GOP will never agree to anything proposed by Obama or the Democratic Administration. Their main purpose for the next 3 to 7 years is to obstruct progress (unless it is under the GOP banner) and make sure Obama fails.

    2. Lobbyists. Both parties are guilty of receiving campaign donations from the insurance and drug lobbies which influence their decisions in favor of the money. (show us the money). The American People don't have a chance against the deep pockets of these shameful lobbyist (55 per Congressional representative).

    Congress and the Senate are no longer "representatives" of the people, by the people and for the people. It is an absolute shame that American politics have evolved to this low standard.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:06 pm |
  48. Arlene, Illinois

    Lets see now I'm 70 years old and I think by the time I reach
    my 90th birthday they should have it out of the committee's and
    then they can vote on it. In the mean time I'll probably come down
    a new sickness that hasn't been invented yet.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:07 pm |
  49. greg from lancaster,tx

    never

    October 7, 2009 at 4:07 pm |
  50. Jon from Tempe, Az

    I think Joe Biden was right when he said that we will have health care reform for Thanksgiving. It will be shortly before Thanksgiving day.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:08 pm |
  51. Linda in Arizona

    Never, Jack. Never. Any meaningful health care reform is dead. Republicans have done their jobs well, obstructing, destroying, and stabbing the American people in the back. Why do Republicans hate America so much?

    October 7, 2009 at 4:08 pm |
  52. Victor

    With the GOP dragging their feet for big business... sounds like never. I think a Presidential Mandate will do!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:08 pm |
  53. Scott Stodden

    Jack I honestly dont think there can be a real health reform bill without a public option, What sense would it make to pass a bill without a public option? Real health reform includes coverage for all Americans, if you like your current health insurance you can keep it but if you don't you can switch to the goverment public option this is the only healthcare reform that I can and will support. Its just to bad and so sad that President Obama has to kiss the butts of the GOP to get things done. Without a public option I dont see the country getting a proper and appropiate health care bill passed.

    Scott Stodden (Freeport,Illinois)

    October 7, 2009 at 4:09 pm |
  54. Ed from Montana

    Probably never. If Congress had really wanted it to pass they would have named it the "Health Care Bailout" and it would have passed in a matter of days.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:09 pm |
  55. CK Honolulu

    It may be watered-down or one that is "slammed through" with narrow Democratic majorities. H0oevere, given Obama's absolute political need for "a healthcare reform" bill to pass, SOMETHING will come through.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:09 pm |
  56. Linda P

    Stop calling it health care reform! It's health insurance industry reform. It's hardly "caring". When? When it's been watered down to nothing but requiring everyone to buy insurance. And why does it take so long? I don't know – ask the founding fathers who created two houses of Congress and two opposing political parties.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:09 pm |
  57. Mary Dyer

    If the Republicans have their way, we'll get health care reform when hell freezes over
    Mary Dyer
    Independence, MO

    October 7, 2009 at 4:09 pm |
  58. DIANA

    Reform will finally happen" HECK FREEZES OVER"..it is the goverment you know..

    October 7, 2009 at 4:10 pm |
  59. nigel, ontario

    youll see health reform when bernie madoff is in charge he will get it done

    October 7, 2009 at 4:10 pm |
  60. Socrates

    When FDR, Teddy Kennedy, and Jesus Christ ride into Congress on white stallions at the second coming... never unfortunately

    October 7, 2009 at 4:10 pm |
  61. Zabego

    Health care reform will not come any time soon. There are too many road blocks, too many opinions, and too many special interests being catered to. As a recent college graduate trapped in unemployment because of the recession, I'm dreading the day I turn 23.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:10 pm |
  62. Mike Armstrong TX.

    Three years Two months and 20 days when the third Bush wins the election.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:10 pm |
  63. DeeMarie-Sweet Home, Oregon

    The World Health Organization says:

    "How long will reform take?
    International evidence shows that most reforms towards universal coverage have been gradual. In most European countries that have achieved universal coverage, the transition took place over many decades, often taking more than 50 years. 23,24 More recently, in Costa Rica, the Republic of Korea and Thailand, reform took between 20 and 30 years."

    October 7, 2009 at 4:10 pm |
  64. a.c. of La.

    I am about to think never, I have never been so disgusted with any one group of people in my life..... all of them, collectively need to go home and stay there.....they are just not worthy of doing our country,s business.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:11 pm |
  65. michael

    Im sure we'll see some form of "reform" early next year, but I doubt we'll see any real healthcare reform in ours or our children's lifetime.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:11 pm |
  66. Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

    True Reform is “Single Payer” so, not in my lifetime.
    😦

    October 7, 2009 at 4:11 pm |
  67. Diana NJ

    If memory serves me, I believe the President said something like 4 years but that was when he thought the Democrats would be listening to their citizens instead of the song the Gop is listening to... you know the turne... Blue Cross Blue Shield.. United Health Care Pharm Co.

    Jack they don't care about us... that guy in Florida was not that off... I will be dead when they do... and I am only 64. I will not be able to aford that donut Hole..

    October 7, 2009 at 4:11 pm |
  68. jim Blevins

    "The impossible takes a bit longer".

    Jim, Craig, CO

    October 7, 2009 at 4:11 pm |
  69. Donna

    tomorrow, unfortunately the problem is that Tomorrow never comes, so we are stuck, waiting for the republicans to get the health care industry out of their back pockets.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:12 pm |
  70. Dan

    Who's on first?

    Dan
    Raleigh, NC

    October 7, 2009 at 4:12 pm |
  71. Basil Baker

    If you mean MEANINGFUL reform, Jack, the answer will be NEVER. The reason: F. Scott Fiztgerald said it best: the very rich are different from you and me. No matter what happens to the economy, our "representatives" will never have to worry about the real world like the rest of us.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  72. Tim

    By the time we see health care reform from congress medicare will be out of money. Democrats, republicans doesn't matter who's in there they never get anything done.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  73. Michael n Seattle

    we might ger insurance reform when every congress person has maxamized the campaign contributions from the big spenders to defeat the american people. but since we waited 40 years whats the rush, Merry christmas

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  74. Pete - Augusta Ga

    Jack –

    It would seem we won't see health care reform until after the next mid-term elections (2010). Sadly, the current congress is wrapped so tightly around emotional pieces of the various bills, regional preferences, economic pressures, lobbyist influences, etc. that a concensus is impossible.
    Since a large portion of the American public is enamored with the Canadian Health Care system, perhaps we should draw on another Canadian tradition: Vote of No Confidence – dissolve Congress & call for elections in 6 weeks (Representatives & Senators). The new Congress should be charged with solving Health Care Reform in 3 months, or recall them too!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  75. Rudy Haugeneder, Victoria, BC, Canada

    Health Care reform is a political labyrinth - a place of filled with confusing intricate passageways.
    The Answer: When God strikes congress with an epidemic of common sense to get serious things done.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  76. Infantryman

    We'll see health care reform when people actually want it. Right now, people don't have an equal drive (nor the deep pockets) of those who oppose it.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  77. Kendall

    At least another 20 years since true "health care reform" has been watered down to "health insurance reform". As a young doctor who was really hoping for some change, I'm disappointed that our elected officials still don't get it.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  78. Enos Flores

    We will never get health reform, because it will only be insurance reform. The public will be the losers and the insurance companies will be the winners. We need health reform...

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  79. Harry, Boise, Idaho

    Maybe never if the media doesn't hold the Republican's feet to the fire.
    They say:
    We don't want government to get between us and our doctor
    but, it's apparently ok for the money grubbing insurance companies to interfere with our care in the name of their profit

    Government health care will be too expensive due to waste, corruption, etc.
    but, we can't have a public option because it would be unfair competition for insurance companies.

    Will someone in the media please point out the inconsistencies? We pay more for less then any other country in the world. We're just stupid and let these idiots kill reasonable reform.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  80. Hopeless in ohio

    Hopefully sometime before my schoolage children retire. But at this rate, im not holding my breath.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  81. Jim T. of S.C

    It will become a platform for the next presidential election.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  82. Karen

    Long after I have died of some highly treatable condition for which I couldn't afford medical care (the preceding applies with or without so-called insurance "coverage").

    October 7, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  83. Charles H. Fremont, Indiana

    It's gonna happen. Count on it. End of discussion.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  84. Henya, Ca

    If the Republicans stop interfering and misleading the American people, then it can be don this yr,

    October 7, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  85. Frank J Storey

    If they keep going like they are it may be the proverbial "when the cows come home" It looks like all members are undecided.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  86. Marsha

    When the health insurance companies decide that they really don't need the billions in profits they've grown so fond of....when they decide they can operate as not-for-profit organizations and still get decent salaries and provide excellent coverage....when the people we send to represent us in Washington decide they can live without the cornucopia offered and taken by the industry. That's when we'll get true reform. Until then, we'll get the same old and worse from the pigs at the trough.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  87. Darius Porter Warner Robins,GA

    Healthcare will only work if we make everything fair and equal. If Money the issue then "Fairly" Tax the rich and the wealthy just like the Government does the middle and lower classes. They're suffering and paying taxes..so why is the rich being treated better?? Fair tax system could raise billions and will money will no longer be an excuse for Republicans to vote. Money shouldnt rule the world..

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  88. Fred

    If the GOPers and their health insurance lobbyist controllers have their way, NEVER, not in a thousand years. What are we anyway they demand on that other "news" channel, a communist-socialist republic controlled by the people's votes or a capitalist oligarthy controlled by the plutarchs?

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  89. Mark Sprouse

    About two weeks after my funeral. I've been downsized out ot health care three times now and it appears that my wife will be losing her job with health care in the near future. Most of the folks debating this topic aren't sick and so can't really see the urgency. The same goes for the legislative branch. After all, they're covered. One the other hand, I am sick and I'm pretty certain no one is very interested in helping me. It will feel different when something happens to them.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  90. Pat from NY

    I am not sure Jack. if I knew when hell was supposed to freeze over I could tell you
    but for now I can only tell you that the Politicians have full health care coverage paid but you guest it the people who cant afford it

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  91. mike NY, NY

    As long as you have deep pocketed, brazen, snake oil salesmen like Rick Scott pitching for the insurance industry meaningful health care reform will not be enacted anytime soon. Mr Scott recognizes the ease with which uninformed people can be misinformed and manipulated and he is morally bankrupt enough to exploit it for his own gain. Makes me think twice about dismissing Michael Moore and his far left ideas out of hand.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  92. Rudy Haugeneder, Victoria, BC, Canada

    Health Care reform is a political labyrinth — a place filled with confusing intricate passageways.
    The Answer: When God strikes congress with an epidemic of common sense to get serious things done. Ha, ha, ha.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  93. El Mugroso

    Health care "reform" will be just one more imposition of the Greedy upon the citizens, making "health" insurance mandatory by law, just like automobile insurance.

    And, just like automobile insurance, where, no matter how well one drives, one is forced to pay for those who are careless, reckless, or fond of intoxicating themselves.

    Any thing that the government says is mandatory, should be free (paid from public funds). Otherwise, all this amounts to forcing people to buy things one is not interested in,does not need, or can't afford.

    Forcing such things on businesses is something else. Those are there for profit, not for self-subsistance.

    Ever noticed how insurance is on a "per-car" basis, even though an individual can only drive one car at a time, and it's not cars that cause accidents, but people?

    I think Obama, although the most powerful president in the world, still has to respond to bosses, and that's not the citizens that elected him.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  94. Richard Green

    Jack,

    Some kind of health bill could be signed before Christmas. An actual reform bill will take well beyond that. If candidates who are independent of the Republicans and the Democrats can win some seats in 2010, maybe something good could happen in 2013. It's a depressing situation.

    Rich Green
    San Clemente, Cal

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  95. Samuel Taylor

    Around march of next Year.
    it will be the Insurance subsidy, and deregulation act of 2010
    It will exempt insurance Companies from any taxes, and
    total deregulate the Insurance companies,
    giving them subsidies for being an insurance company.
    and contain mandates for citizens to carry insurance under
    Penalty of Law, and outlaw Labor unions, and trade associations.
    It will also establish debtor prisons, and public Flogging for
    the poor.
    you know jack a Republican bill.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  96. Dennis.S. Toronto Canada

    When will we see health care reform?
    Good day, re: Healthcare,Me being Canadian I see you need a new Healthcares system,the one you have now does not cover all citizens.
    US citizens have to decide on how,but the US for sure needs one.
    Arguments I did hear that in Canada we have to wait, that is only in non emergency cases,If you have cancer like my Father did, The healthcare system here in Canada did not make him wait.I know because I had to drive him to the steady stream of appointments and
    surgery's.No waiting.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  97. Jim Kingsby

    Hey Jack we'll see health care reform when a Monkey Barks, you kidding me, we're going to hell with gasoline drawers on with these guys leading us.....

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  98. Pat in Georgia

    Health care reform won't happen until politicians - on the left and the right - actually put the people of America first. They need to stop the name-calling and bullying and agree on some fundamental changes. I guess it never occurred to them that their constituents might actually be grateful if health care reform were enacted.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  99. Mike Panian

    I hope this coming year.

    What is the truth about the desires of the People regarding public health?

    If it's true that the majority of both parties want public health then I am truly concerned about the power of the corporate insurance companies .

    Surely this is a rallying point for both parties?

    Is it not frightening that corporate interests are that powerful?

    Is this not the real issue here?

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  100. Ken in NC

    We'll see what looks like Health Care Reform probably by the end of the year but we will not see real Reform until about 3 months after Hell freezes over.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  101. Rose Wayner

    It is obvious to me that health care reform – which must have a public option to be worth anything – will occur only after the cow jumps over the moon.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  102. nigel, ontario

    youll never see health care reform when rich spoiled politicians who have never gone a day without health care are voting on it.
    the people who should be voting on this is the public ,not the politicians.

    nigel

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  103. Joan

    Next summer would be my guess. I wish Obama had never said he wouldn’t increase the deficit or raise taxes to enact healthcare reform. I would be happy to pay more taxes to get reasonable, dependable healthcare for myself and my family and to ensure that my fellow Americans could have the same. It makes me cringe to hear anyone be against real healthcare reform, ie the so-called ‘public option’. Those people have no compassion or regard for their fellow citizens and that certainly is not patriotism!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  104. Fred Mn

    Jack i think we can see it by the end of this year only if the Government can't force poor Americans to buy Health insurance.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  105. Garrick, Atlanta, GA

    If health care reform means cutting into profits hauled in by health insurance companies, pharmaceutical companies, and those how purchase Congressional votes, we will NEVER see health care reform, Jack. If Congressional leaders identify ways to pass the buck to the taxpayers in the name of insuring the uninsured, we will have a piece of legislation this year. What I find ironic is the town halls and number cruntching for a bill that helps people. Congress did not see the necessity to take the idea of Government Bailouts, Automobile industry bailouts, or useless wars across the Middle East to town halls. Leaders from both parties are fleecing the American people and poster-children for unethical behavior.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  106. Shirley from Myrtle Beach, SC

    When pigs fly, or the lobbyists run out of money.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  107. Sebastian

    Health care reform? LOL. It's too bad we have to depend on the politicians – 70 yrs of inaction – like this is going to change? We, the uninsured, whether it's 9M or 47M are still screwed. Right now I'd settle for one small step for mankind......... And Americans think we have a "civilized" country. Ha!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
  108. Joe in Kent Island, MD

    What is left of the health care bill when congress is done with it will be past before New Years, but will contain nothing of real substance. Just another gutted bill from a gut-less congress.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
  109. ken m.

    JacK, this will all end when all republicans and blue dog' yellow dogs"democrats become old enough to be transfered to one of the kill them off commities they claimed where out there, , they will meet there maker ,who will be standing in front of the then millions who died from non insurance deaths, and be asked why this was allowedand if the money they got was worth there time in HELL. , AS THEY FALL INTO THE ABAYSS. KEN

    October 7, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
  110. Aaron S. - Dallas, TX

    Never. Whichever president pushes health care through will get an enormous feather in their cap, and the opposing party – whoever it may be – will never allow that to happen. Remember, these are people who want to be in power so badly that they will literally kill you to make it happen.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
  111. Ed

    When the money trees lose their leaves.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:18 pm |
  112. Jim Green, TX, www.Inclusivism.org

    Before Christmas, Jack–the healthcare industry knows the jig is up and the $2 million a day they are spending on lobbyists and propaganda ads –is only to cut their losses–to keep their pot of gold as full as possible–the question should be: Why should even one penny of the money we pay in premiums be spent propaganda ads, and lobbyists? What a racket!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:18 pm |
  113. Austin

    we will have healthcare reform when our elected members of congress start voting for the health of our nation, not the health of their wallets.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:18 pm |
  114. Allen L Wenger

    It will be years before anyone notices any healthcare reform. We will get a bill passed this year, but most of us won't be able to tell the difference from what we have right now. The signing of the bill is not the end, it is just a part of the process.

    Mountain Home ID

    October 7, 2009 at 4:18 pm |
  115. Thomas

    Hey Cafferty,
    Maybe when that place freezes over. It seem like the powers to be (Insurance Companies). Have a grasp on many of politicians and I think Obama should really start calling them out on this. Republican, Democrat or Independent. This needs to done.

    Thomas ,FLORIDA

    October 7, 2009 at 4:19 pm |
  116. Daryl

    No. Special interests from both sides of the aisle will prevent any meaningful reform. It is a true shame that we let ourselves be swayed by the sound bites and lies of the few on the fringes of our society who yell the loudest. A true blue American would want their fellow countrymen to have the best heathcare available no matter the cost. We do indeed live in sad times.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:20 pm |
  117. Steven

    We will see a health care bill that fairly covers those in need when: Rush becomes a Democrate, and Hell freezes over!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:20 pm |
  118. John E. Boi (Melville, New York)

    Definitely this century.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:20 pm |
  119. Jim T. of S.C

    Mr.Graham said" there should'nt be a quick decision" therefore I think there should'nt be a quick decision on sending in more troops either.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:21 pm |
  120. tom

    We will see health care reform when it is too late and the rich have trouble paying their health care premiums, It seems that the republicans must be doing quite well financially they certainly don't care what the average person has to do to pay his health care, as for me I selling my house and moving in to a smaller home just to pay my bills. It’s a matter of time till the rats feed on the rats
    Tom in Swoyersville

    October 7, 2009 at 4:21 pm |
  121. Joan

    When hell freezes over. What do you expect with this do nothing congress. They should all be voted out. They all have health insurance so what do they care. We are becoming a laughing stock with other countries who all have health insurance covering everyone. We just can't put our heads together to get anything right. They are more interested in playing politics than getting anything done. The president is trying if only the congress would.

    Joan

    October 7, 2009 at 4:21 pm |
  122. Ray

    When pigs fly, which means they'd have to grow wings and that will happen before they grow a conscience.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:21 pm |
  123. Terry

    We will get health care reform over the dead bodies of the republicans.
    Terry
    South Carolina

    October 7, 2009 at 4:21 pm |
  124. james in monroe louisiana

    Jack, today is my birthday. I turned 38. maybe I'll see it when I turn 83!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:21 pm |
  125. Richard Kavanaugh

    I am 77 and we won 't see true health care reform in my lifetime. By next March we may have a token bill but it will lack the public option and will offer no relief for people whose medical bills exceed the limits on their policys.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  126. Bill Syckle

    I don't think we'll see 'good' reform as so long as people think insurance companys should be able to "compete". The health of a nation should not be a game of 'Profit', but a non-profit. Doctors, healthcare workers, pharmaceuticals and researches should get Excellent Top Pay and Rewards. This shouldn't include CEO's and Share Holders profitting what so ever. What's so hard in seeing that a country that is so worried about Profit that it's at the expense of the well being of others is just down right wrong.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  127. Ajoy Adhikari

    As soon as we can get rid of the lawyeers (the money makers), the insurance companies(the middleman) and the special interst groups(who have no interest) from the health care business.

    What the doctors need to do is form regional pools of which everybody will be a member and pay a fee. This fee will be less than what we pay the insurance, When we get sick we get treated by our doctors. No middleman, no lawyeer and no special interest people.

    Would'nt that be a true "Reform".

    October 7, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  128. Randy T

    When the republicans cut out all the real reform measures and replace them with more goodies for the healthcare industry. Then they will come out and brag about bipartisanship and being good friends with their opposition while the american people lose once again.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  129. ROBERT D DE VRIES

    I hope it never happens...Currently I am happy with my health plan......If it should happen, I hope it's along after i'm dead..
    And one more thing all repeat all should be covered under the
    same plan......Including the president and all house and senate
    members...

    October 7, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  130. Diane Dagenais Turbide

    Republicans are using the simplest demeanor for election purposes by just saying no and from this simplest behavior it means they do not care about real dilemma facing families. In fact, it is getting quite immporal in our society for republicans or our own conservatives too for that matter to always use the simplest tactic of a simple word just to get votes and not get real reforms. They did not have a hard time to pass their tax break to the few! You see, the simplier the language the more people get use to simple answer and become less aware of the real reform that needs to take place. The public option is to get rid of subsidies given to some people and this would reduce the overall costs. But this is too logical! Quite fed up with simplistic attitudes that takes people for sheeps!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  131. Nancy, Tennessee

    We'll not see real health care reform for a long time. Congress doesn't understand what the average person is dealing with trying to pay for health care insurance that has high deductibles and doesn't cover pre-existing conditions. This bill will be so mutilated that it will be hard to recognize anything that will be helpful. The part that they seem to all have in their bill is the fines that they want to impose on the people who strictly cannot afford to pay the premiums to private insurance companies. There seems to be no end to the procedures necessary to pass a bill, but on top of that there seems to be no end to the opposition to health care reform that will do some good for the lower and middle class citizens.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:23 pm |
  132. Conor in Chicago

    When the civil unrest makes it unprofitable to continue denying it to us.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:23 pm |
  133. mark manz (san francisco)

    Jack we wont see anything major at all

    Both partys have the Insurance Companys money in there pockets so deep they dont care about what is right for us anymore.

    Its about them and there donations not about us, Its a sad day that Americans dont see it and stand up and say enough is enough all its takes is an e mail saying you lost my vote and both partys after enough e mails will see its about US not donations!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:24 pm |
  134. johnchristopher saskatchewan

    With the proliferation of mental illness of U.S. senators on display daily on the tube, health care can't come soon enough. If you're when geuine health care reform will come to the U.S., the answer is: never. The greed merchants and mentally ill elected officials won't allow it.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:24 pm |
  135. Greg, Ontario

    Never. The American attitude does not allow the empathy for the less blessed to the degree where insurance is provided or the insurance companies actually care about their fellow Americans. You will always be a country of misleading media and politicians that love to poke the Grizzly. You should all read they story of Louis the XIV to see what is going to happen.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:24 pm |
  136. Amine Chaar

    Jack
    Not in my life time, while Washington trying to make a deal and make some money out of this, and by the time they finish stuffing their pocket, me and you will pay heavily for this reform.
    Thieves in charge

    October 7, 2009 at 4:24 pm |
  137. Lyle Laws, Puyallup WA

    Jack,

    When dealing with the situation in the war, Obama says that is more important to get it right than doing it fast, but when dealing with health care he seems to think that is more important to get it done fast than getting it right. Go figure
    Lyle Laws
    Puyallup WA

    October 7, 2009 at 4:25 pm |
  138. Aileen, Huntington Beach, California

    Hopefully not till the unemployed get jobs. Unfortunately, President Obama and his buddies in Congress haven't fixed the JOBS PROBLEM first so we won't even be able to pay the insurance premiums OR the penalty they want to impose. JOBS, JOB, JOBS, WE NEED JOBS....We already pay for the uninsured as it is. The PRIORITY IS TO GET AMERICANS WORKING!!!

    When this 'health reform'passes it should include a tax deduction for every cent paid for medical expenses to all Americans. It should cap premiums and not allow pre-existing conditions to be an issue. Get the Drug Companies to charge prices we can afford.!!!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:25 pm |
  139. Phil in Charleston SC

    So Borger thinks the Democrats' want to call the GOP's bluff on health care. Umm, excuse me but what does she call what's been going on since last spring? More like time for the Dems to call their own bluff, find out if there's any backbone left on the left!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:27 pm |
  140. Heather Mash

    Have you all forgot what unregulated Wall Street did to us? Well let me buy you a clue, the Insurance Corporations are doing it to us too. Public Health Care Option now.

    Heather Mash
    Tillamook, Oregon

    October 7, 2009 at 4:27 pm |
  141. Kelly in Atlanta

    Who cares? It's all going to end in 2012. Either the Mayans were right and the world will end, or Palin will be elected... I'm not sure which one sounds worse

    October 7, 2009 at 4:27 pm |
  142. Gary H. Boyd

    When the cows come home Jack. When the cows come home.

    Gary H. Boyd, Scottsdale, Arizona

    October 7, 2009 at 4:28 pm |
  143. Jamie

    Probably after the new year. If it has a public option, isn't deficit neutral, raises are taxes, cuts medicaire, and intervenes in the doctor patient relationship then hopefully never or maybe after President Obama's term. The Government's job is to regulate the health care industry not run it.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:28 pm |
  144. Wayne Allen

    We will have health care reform when the two party adversarial system, (Congress) is abolished and that won't happen until we have a revolution. And the sooner the better!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:28 pm |
  145. Angie

    sorry for the typo-Without the Public Option, the Medical Health Insurance companies will continue charging a lot more for pre-existing conditions.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:28 pm |
  146. Conor in Chicago

    US citizens will get a public option on healthcare when we demand it in the streets by means of protest, general strike, and civil disobedience. If we cost these companies (and by extension our government) money, too much money, they will acquiesce to our demands. Until then nothing will happen.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:29 pm |
  147. Ryan U (SF CA)

    not untill these idiots read the fine print and see that it DOES NOT COVER illegal immigrants and helping people die or abortion.

    There brainwashed by the GOP and cant think on there own, there like a muppet movie... do what i tell you.....

    maybe like a zombie movie, except there not eating enough brains to actually get a clue and see it helps americans not illegal immigrants and if it would even Dems would say NO.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:29 pm |
  148. T.Thomas Abilene Tx.

    Well, something will probably pass by year's end. Only the health care industry will like the bill( be ecstatic?) as it appears they will get millions of new customers to abuse.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:30 pm |
  149. Roland-St.George,UT

    When people stop believing all the bold-faced lies about death panels to kill off grandma and other such nonsense being propagated by public figures with no conscience or no brain (or both). Given this is a country where people would rather watch American Idol or John and Kate plus Hate, instead of doing research for themselves...I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:30 pm |
  150. mark pribble Anna Illinois

    If we do see a bill passed i don't think it will help the people just the Insurance companies. Our government has been bought and paid for by BIG BUSINESS they will get what they want and the rest of us will get the bill. Our government is corrupt from top to bottom all you have to do is watch the news to see it.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
  151. Francie in SC

    When will we see health care? Probably when pigs fly!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
  152. Che

    As a note the current reform is to health care INSURANCE .... and we will see a bill passed by the end of this year ..

    October 7, 2009 at 4:32 pm |
  153. K

    when @#$% freezes over since we cannot compete with the millions poured into Washington by the special interests/lobbyists to derail any reform. we need help but the money of these special interests rules.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:32 pm |
  154. Dana Lewis

    jack, i had high hopes when this process started. now, i'm worried. i volunteer with organizing for america. i have canvassed people at parades, over the phone, etc. garnering signatures for real health care reform. without the public option we fail in bringing down cost. the huge corporations in this nation are not whom's growing this economy at present. the huge corporations are slashing jobs and cutting costs. small businesses, 4 0r less employees, are what is growing at present. these people have NO ONE lobbying for them in congress. they can't stop and travel to washington. these businesses require and WANT the public option to facilitate providing affordable healthcare. with the monies spent to combat healthcare reform, all the inflammatory untruths, the uncooperation in congress, i'm pissed and a bit disheartened. i am going back to school, major in political science and figure out a way to take money out of congress. huge corporations are running america. the tacit approval by americans is astonishing. they rally and condemn government but what about the sins of corporate america. why no outrage their? everything we are trying to fix that is wrong with our healthcare system, corporate america created. a public option is imperative to combat corporate america, not to keep them honest. they have already proven they are not honest. we need the public option to keep them straight!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:33 pm |
  155. Henya, Ca

    If the Republicans stop interfering and misleading the American people then it can be don this yr,

    October 7, 2009 at 4:34 pm |
  156. John Coyne

    Jack:

    I expect to never meaningful Health Care legislation so long as the enomitry of expendiures by the health care industry advertising against. Some ads I have seem express a point of view and are appropriate. But most deal in innuendo, distortion and blanant lies to scare the hell of the public. They scare seniors by claiming changes in Medicare that are inlikely. They scare the younger by claiming they will be have to buy overpriced insurance. And the great meddle they scare by suggesting that through one way or another they will lose their insurance and be forced in a Socialist health care. I have been a Medieare member for close to twelves years and have experienced noth but efficient processing of claims made. No claim ever made on my behalf has been question. Unfortumately, soem of the claims have been very expensive. As old as I am, no one has suggested that care be withheld. Quite the contrary.

    Whe I look at the 5 Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee who voted agisnt the public option and then see they they colllectively accepted close to 15 million in contributions from the health care companies, I wonder. I think they view cioorpution as getting a bag full of cash and stashing it away. My view is somewhat broader. The reason often give for the votes of these 5 is that they live in Red states and may see an end to thier political career.

    What they are saying to me is that the oath of office they really took was "Ishall do whatever is necessary to perpetuate myself in office." About the only thing I saw in the markup sessions was Bachus telling Kyl to pipe down.

    Thanks Jack,

    Phoenix, AZ the home of the alleged Maverick and the proven lapdog.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:34 pm |
  157. Lloyd Great

    We will get some kind of reform this December.
    Then the question will be CAN WE AFFORD IT!

    I fear that without a public option the monthly preminuims
    will be out of reach for most of us to afford.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:36 pm |
  158. Denis Duffy

    When hell freezes over, Jack. This is just a huge socialist democrat ponzi scheme. To the president and senate and congress" liar, liar, pants on fire".

    Denis
    Upper Saint Clair, Pa.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:36 pm |
  159. Jasmine in Germany

    We'll see good health reform in the US when politicians stop playing party politics, stop playing to their lobbies and special interest groups, learn to abhor corruption, and to do their real jobs; make decisions for the people of our great nation as a whole. I guess it won't be in my lifetime. I had hope, because we elected an intelligent president with foresight, vision and virtue, but the opposition clearly puts a higher value on clobbering the President than the health, welfare, and future of the American people and our great nation. Which, I might add, won't continue be a great nation without each and every citizen having health insurance.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:36 pm |
  160. Jay

    I can only hope that it happens soon. After graduating from college in May, I could only find a part time job. My monthly health care premium costs almost half of the rent for my one-bedroom apartment, and with groceries to buy and bills to pay, I'm lucky to break even at the end of the month. There are thousands of recent college graduates out there like me, all trying to start their lives amidst surmounting debts,, widespread unemployment, and dwindling savings accounts. Maybe we just need to lock them in the Congressional Chamber until they agree to play nice and do the right thing for the American people.

    Jay (Austin, TX)

    October 7, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  161. Chad from Los Angeles

    Hopefully not till SINGLE PAYER IS ADOPTED! Those who oppose single payer are either paid by the health care lobbyists or are just not educated enough to know it works almost everywhere it is in place!

    Please America, pick up a book and get educated!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  162. Lori - PA

    Let's just say that I'm not holding my breath.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  163. Dennis from Seattle

    Never, Never, Never, there is to much money involved for both parties.
    What other possible reason would any politician not do what 65% of Americans want. They DO NOT CARE.................Period. I will never vote again. Obama has failed and fallen into the Republican obedience training school. Republicans always got things done under Bush. Obama can't do anything, what a shame, I had so much hope.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  164. Roger Zoeller

    Jack , Not anytime soooon ! Congress can't even get out of the mess they made before this mess ! What a mess !! Roger Zoeller , Meridian, Idaho

    October 7, 2009 at 4:39 pm |
  165. Michael, Alexandria, VA

    It will be enacted in December if they can avoid the tax reform issues, March if they can't.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:40 pm |
  166. Matt

    REAL health care reform will only come when lobbyists are no longer allowed to buy politicians, politicians become concerned with regular voters instead of their own jobs, and when the health insurance industry becomes a non-profit institution.
    In short, never.
    Matt
    Saint Augustine, Fl.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:41 pm |
  167. Heather Mash

    We are in deep do do economically with this antiquated Insurance greed driven heath care system we have. What's really motivating those dragging their feet on this? The people need a Public Health Care Option now we are suffering and will continue to suffer in many areas with out it.

    Heather Mash
    Tillamook, Oregon

    October 7, 2009 at 4:41 pm |
  168. Theresa - Mississippi

    When we move to Europe.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:41 pm |
  169. Nancy, Grand Ledge,MI

    I probably won't live that long! At least I hope I'm not here when hell fr

    October 7, 2009 at 4:42 pm |
  170. Allen in Hartwell GA

    Jack, when do you think the GOP will capitulate and think of the country instead of defeating anything Obama proposes?

    October 7, 2009 at 4:42 pm |
  171. Nancy, Grand Ledge,MI

    I probably won't live that long! At least I hope I'm not here when hell freezes over.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:43 pm |
  172. Keith in CA

    Forget calling it a Public Option. They sould just call it a No Bid Contract and be done with it. Congress didn't seem to mind handing over billions to Halliburton, Blackwater and KBR.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:43 pm |
  173. Hubert Bertrand Oberlin La.

    Reading all the responds I can see where our world is going. DOWN DOWN DOWN.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:43 pm |
  174. jb in Colorado

    Based on the life expectancy of a person without health insurance, I doubt that I will be here long enough to see reform. But I'll keep my fingers crossed for as long as I can.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:43 pm |
  175. Igor Shumeyko

    == Public/private heath care vs. public/private education‏ ==

    In my opinion, president Obama has made a good case by comparing health care system with higher education a few weeks ago. No more than 10 per cent Americans can afford sending their kids to private colleges. Similar to that, the private health care system is all-good for the 10 per cent of the wealthiest Amrican people. The rest 90 per cent would be better off with the public option. I believe that the problem with accepting this reality is poor awareness of these 90 per cent.

    Please keep using this striking analogy of heath care with public/private education.

    Igor Shumeyko
    Tulsa, OK

    October 7, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
  176. Victor in Saanich, B.C. Canada

    Jack, unless there is the public option, it is just a 'shill' game and the profits and screwing of the 'sheople' will continue unabated!!! Anything else is 'shear' hypocrisy!!!!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
  177. Adam Simi Valley, CA

    Hopefully, given the current socialist garbage spewing forth, no change happens soon. People need to get realistic about the cost and stop expecting that all these entitlement programs don't come with huge price tags in the way of taxes.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:45 pm |
  178. Joe

    We'll see health care reform soon. We'll see *meaningful* health care reform, um, well, never.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:48 pm |
  179. Josh Askew

    I don't think we will see reform until the Dems get a clue. The Dems are obviously the major party pushing reform. Reform obviously needs to happen. However, one comprehensive bill is not going to happen. They need to break it up into bite-size bills that the moderates and some conservatives can accept. In other words, bi-partisanship is more effective in smaller steps.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:48 pm |
  180. Kim - Blair, NE

    It won't be Health Care Reform unless it contains a public option. That said, I truly believe it will be on the presidents desk before 2010.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:49 pm |
  181. Betty from Texas

    Never if the Republicans get their way.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:49 pm |
  182. Esther Ohio

    when hell freezes over

    October 7, 2009 at 4:50 pm |
  183. Antonio from Washington D.C.

    I think that when people stop bickering with each other and stop being like little kids and work together FOR ONCE, then we'll see health care reform sooner than we may think!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:50 pm |
  184. HD in Phoenix, AZ

    When power is taken away from insurance companies and lobbyists.

    HD in Phoenix, AZ

    October 7, 2009 at 4:50 pm |
  185. Willard Gatzke

    When the rich can no longer afford health care, then will see reform. Not before.

    Will
    Canon City CO

    October 7, 2009 at 4:52 pm |
  186. Rodney Mitchell

    Jack, health care reform bill will be passed when hell freezes over

    October 7, 2009 at 4:53 pm |
  187. Jackie in Dallas

    It better before Christmas or there will be a lot of Senators and Congresspeople getting a very cold welcome when they get home...and a lot of coal in their stockings!

    October 7, 2009 at 4:55 pm |
  188. mike

    Easy, the last nation on earth.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:55 pm |
  189. lynne from NC

    A semblance of one by the end of the year. It is only after the blue dog democrats get replaced with real democrats that we will see one with some teeth to it.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:56 pm |
  190. Willard Gatzke

    When congress passes a conflict of interest law that would forbid those members receiving campaign contributions from corporations directly effected by their proposed legislation from voting on said legislation.

    In other words, never.

    Willard Gatzke
    Canon City, CO

    October 7, 2009 at 4:56 pm |
  191. george in MD

    jack!
    we don't need any of the proposed health-care plan ,we need insurance reform that could be enforced not brack laws....we don't need more corrupt ,chaotic free tax funded health-care that would be managed by those how already done poor business disisions on other government programs.
    why anyone want a government hinchman to decide on your health is beyond anyone comprehension.
    government can't even manage war, bank corruptions, criminal drug war and illegal immigration with illiteracy and drug problems.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:57 pm |
  192. Bill Glover Baltimore MD

    Just found out what my Insurance Premium will be for 2010, up 41%, Co Pays up 25%...Prescription costs up 20%...How long can this go on? We need Health Care Reform now and I think 51 is a majority in the Senate, I say the Dems need to "Go It Alone" Bi Partisanship is over-rated.

    October 7, 2009 at 4:58 pm |