Comments on: Good idea to allow guns in bars? http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/ Tell Jack how you really feel Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:00:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: LMAO http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031971 LMAO Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:43:07 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031971 This just too funny! Not that I will be drinking in an Arizona bar in the future but I just can't wit for the first and subsequent shootouts. Drunks and guns - lord luv a duck. This just too funny!

Not that I will be drinking in an Arizona bar in the future but I just can't wit for the first and subsequent shootouts.

Drunks and guns – lord luv a duck.

]]> By: Linda http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031970 Linda Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:42:36 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031970 Sherrif Joe must be putting up more tents as we speak. Sherrif Joe must be putting up more tents as we speak.

]]> By: Kevin http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031969 Kevin Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:42:30 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031969 About time, I wish Texas would do the same.. For a time the places most often robbed in my Texas neighborhood were bars. That's because the criminals know that honest citizens would obeyed the law and left the guns in their vehicles. Honest citizens with concealed handgun licenses should be allowed the carry their guns everywhere they go. About time, I wish Texas would do the same.. For a time the places most often robbed in my Texas neighborhood were bars. That's because the criminals know that honest citizens would obeyed the law and left the guns in their vehicles. Honest citizens with concealed handgun licenses should be allowed the carry their guns everywhere they go.

]]> By: Larry B http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031968 Larry B Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:42:28 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031968 If you are licensed it shouldn't matter where you carry. If you dont like it move. If you are licensed it shouldn't matter where you carry. If you dont like it move.

]]> By: Bob - Idaho http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031967 Bob - Idaho Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:42:26 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031967 As with many of your questions Jack, most of the respondents check thier brain at the door. This law doesn't give people the right to drink and carry a gun, that is still illegal (as you pointed out). This only applies to people with CCW permits. Look at the facts: people with CCW permits paid a lot of money and jumped through a lot of hoops to get them, they are not going to risk losing them for a drink. I've gone to many places that serve alcohol and not had a drop. If I am a law abiding citizen with a CCW permit, why shouldn't I be allowed to carry my firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol (such as a restraunt or sports bar), as long as I don't drink? Do I lose my right to protect myself just because others around me have the opportunity to drink? Punish those who violate the law (those who posess a firearm while drinking) and leave the rest of us alone. Just like CCW permits in general, those against them will make outrageous predictions about shootem-ups in every bar. The facts just don't match these claims. As with many of your questions Jack, most of the respondents check thier brain at the door. This law doesn't give people the right to drink and carry a gun, that is still illegal (as you pointed out). This only applies to people with CCW permits. Look at the facts: people with CCW permits paid a lot of money and jumped through a lot of hoops to get them, they are not going to risk losing them for a drink. I've gone to many places that serve alcohol and not had a drop. If I am a law abiding citizen with a CCW permit, why shouldn't I be allowed to carry my firearm into an establishment that serves alcohol (such as a restraunt or sports bar), as long as I don't drink? Do I lose my right to protect myself just because others around me have the opportunity to drink?

Punish those who violate the law (those who posess a firearm while drinking) and leave the rest of us alone. Just like CCW permits in general, those against them will make outrageous predictions about shootem-ups in every bar. The facts just don't match these claims.

]]> By: Jasmine in Germany http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031965 Jasmine in Germany Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:41:59 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031965 No, it is not a good idea. It's not what "law and order" should represent. Laws are supposed to protect people. People wouldn't need to protect themselves against criminals if the criminals didn't have access to weapons. It's time for the US to move into the 21st Century. The National Rifle Association puts money above the welfare of the American people and is partially responsible for the very high crime rate in the US. No, it is not a good idea. It's not what "law and order" should represent. Laws are supposed to protect people. People wouldn't need to protect themselves against criminals if the criminals didn't have access to weapons. It's time for the US to move into the 21st Century. The National Rifle Association puts money above the welfare of the American people and is partially responsible for the very high crime rate in the US.

]]> By: Nicholas http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031964 Nicholas Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:41:50 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031964 The above story is incomplete at best and deceitful at worst. Chili's serves alcohol. The Olive Garden serves alcohol. So you're telling me that merely because these restaurants serve alcohol, it should be unlawful for me to carry my legal, concealed carry weapon, as a law-abiding citizen? The story attempts to paint this new law as if it were for the alcohol-bilging late night drunk cowboy, but that is simply not the case. Without this law, almost all nice restaurants become legally gun free (notice that I say legally: those who are going to commit crimes, and break the law, aren't going to pay attention to a "no gun" policy anyways). As a law-abiding citizen, I obey those laws, but I do so at the cost of giving up a basic fundamental of freedom. The above story is incomplete at best and deceitful at worst. Chili's serves alcohol. The Olive Garden serves alcohol. So you're telling me that merely because these restaurants serve alcohol, it should be unlawful for me to carry my legal, concealed carry weapon, as a law-abiding citizen? The story attempts to paint this new law as if it were for the alcohol-bilging late night drunk cowboy, but that is simply not the case. Without this law, almost all nice restaurants become legally gun free (notice that I say legally: those who are going to commit crimes, and break the law, aren't going to pay attention to a "no gun" policy anyways). As a law-abiding citizen, I obey those laws, but I do so at the cost of giving up a basic fundamental of freedom.

]]> By: E Watson http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031961 E Watson Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:41:25 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031961 I think its a much better idea than allowing them in church. I'm sure Dr Tiller would agree. I think its a much better idea than allowing them in church. I'm sure Dr Tiller would agree.

]]> By: MJ from Lincoln, NE http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031960 MJ from Lincoln, NE Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:40:08 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031960 I don't see it as a matter of "allowing guns into bars" as much as controlling who has the right to have concealed weapons. Guns go into bars all the time, by criminals who don't give a hoot about the law. If a person has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, hopefully they have gone through appropriate training - which should prevent them from using that gun in the bars. If you disallow guns in bars in a state where you allow concealed carry, the only thing you do is force people to hide their guns better. Do we want a parking lot full of cars with loaded weapons in them (even if they are locked) outside a bar? Or is it better to have someone with the knowledge and skill to handle the weapon to keep it concealed. I don't see it as a matter of "allowing guns into bars" as much as controlling who has the right to have concealed weapons. Guns go into bars all the time, by criminals who don't give a hoot about the law.

If a person has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, hopefully they have gone through appropriate training – which should prevent them from using that gun in the bars.

If you disallow guns in bars in a state where you allow concealed carry, the only thing you do is force people to hide their guns better. Do we want a parking lot full of cars with loaded weapons in them (even if they are locked) outside a bar? Or is it better to have someone with the knowledge and skill to handle the weapon to keep it concealed.

]]> By: tr http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/02/good-idea-to-allow-guns-in-bars/#comment-1031959 tr Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:40:03 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/?p=6812#comment-1031959 So much for the weekend visits with friends bar hopping in Tempe...Las Vegas here we come. So much for the weekend visits with friends bar hopping in Tempe...Las Vegas here we come.

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