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June 9th, 2009
05:00 PM ET

Should Supreme Court decide fate of 'Don't ask, Don't tell'?

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FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

When it comes to gays in the military, the Supreme Court has refused to hear a legal challenge to the 'Don't ask, don't tell' policy.

The law - enacted under President Clinton in 1993 - forbids those serving in the military from openly saying they are gay or lesbian... it also prevents the government from asking people about their sexual orientation. It's estimated that more than 12,000 members of the military have been discharged under this policy - including more than 200 since President Obama took office.

While campaigning, then-Senator Obama indicated that he supports eventually repealing the law; but he hasn't yet taken any steps to do so. A group of more than 1,000 retired military officers - including 47 four-star generals - recently warned the president that overturning the policy could cause problems recruiting and retaining troops.

But Liberal activists who believe gays should be able to serve openly are frustrated by the Supreme Court's decision... and the Obama administration's lack of action.Yet it seems like Democrats and the White House don't want to take on an issue that could divide the public when they need support for other issues - like health care.

Meanwhile a new Gallup poll suggests there might be more support out there on this issue than the president realizes. 69 percent of Americans now favor allowing openly gay members to serve in the military - that's up six-points from five years ago. Also –and this is interesting - the biggest increase in support has come from conservatives and weekly churchgoers.

Here’s my question to you: Should the Supreme Court decide the fate of 'Don't ask, Don't tell'?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

P. writes:
Trust me, as someone who recently ended his career in the U.S. Army and is gay, I can say “Don't ask, don't tell” is a blessing! The Army is such an incredibly segregated and racist institution and most civilians don't realize it. Allowing gays to be open will just make it worse. It's for their protection and people don't see that. The military likes to cover up all their faults... including hate crimes.

Kathy writes:
Why must we go to the Supreme Court and ask them to force us to do what we know is right? People said African-Americans in the military would destroy morale. They said women in combat zones would destroy morale. Neither did. Now some people continue to say that gays in the military will destroy morale. Let's just get it right on our own this time.

Chris writes:
Jack, There are intelligent, thoughtful people on the other side of this question. Many people feel that issues involving gay, lesbian, and transgender people are being forced on us and it's gone way too far. Calmly step back and think about the soldiers for just one second. If the military wanted this, it would be done this morning. Obviously there are enough people who believe the soldiers on the ground don't want this anytime soon.

Zac from Atlanta writes:
Jack, I can say as a gay man that I'm sure that Scalia and Thomas would love nothing more than to be able to send me and others like me to the front lines. I'm amazed they passed up the opportunity.

Ed writes:
Recently, a West Point graduate and Iraq war veteran who speaks Arabic was discharged from the Army for being gay. Jon Stewart of The Daily Show nailed it when he said, "We allow our interrogators to torture prisoners, but we banish the soldier who can tell us what that prisoner is saying." It truly is insane.


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soundoff (248 Responses)
  1. JD in NH

    No. The Commander-In-Chief needs to issue an executive order today that repeals "don't ask, don't tell." There's no need to lose valuable linguists and aviators we've spent millions to train over an issue of basic human rights. I'm thankful the younger generation is more tolerant and open minded regarding the rights of gay people.

    June 9, 2009 at 12:45 pm |
  2. AndyZ Lynn, MA

    Leave the courts out of this issue. The "ONLY" problem with gays in the military is not the fact that they are in the military. Do you want to treat a wounded, openly gay soldier, have his blood on your hands and wonder if you'll get AIDS? That is the issue. Remember, the medic is not always the first to treat the wounded. The wounded's buddies do the initial treatment. Cure HIV/AIDS and there is no issue.

    June 9, 2009 at 12:48 pm |
  3. Dave, Brooklyn, NY

    No, it is a military matter best decided by the military.

    June 9, 2009 at 12:51 pm |
  4. Cheryl

    Why not – I see it as a legal question on discrimination.

    June 9, 2009 at 12:52 pm |
  5. Diane Dagenais Turbide

    People need to stand up for human dignity and not against it!

    June 9, 2009 at 1:02 pm |
  6. Peg from NY

    Call me naive, I would HOPE The Army, The Navy, The Airforce and The Marines could and would make the decision. There should be no
    need for The Supreme Court .

    June 9, 2009 at 1:06 pm |
  7. Lady from Fayetteville, NC

    YES and get it behind us! If the military does not have the authority to decide it, then send it to the highest Court in the land and let them decide it. I can't imagine what that many white men will come up with but it will be interesting to see if they have the "nerve" to tackle it or will they palm it off so someone else. It is a simple thing. It is not going away and when I worked with the military, there were several people who were top-notch people but probably gay. Most of them have the sense not to be hitting on people they work with. There is an old saying which applies to many situations: DON'T FISH OFF YOUR OWN PIER.

    June 9, 2009 at 1:08 pm |
  8. kay, tx

    The supreme court should do the right thing and overturn it. They're running away from their sworn duty to uphold the rights of an entire section of our citizenry. Surely, they're not letting personal experiences or personal beliefs sway their decision.

    June 9, 2009 at 1:14 pm |
  9. John from Alabama

    Jack: No, the Supreme Court should not decide this issue. It should be the policy-makers in the United States Military establishment. Another words, General Officer's in the different branches of the services should make the changes needed or not needed. I believe this is what the Commander in Chief, President Obama would like to see happen.

    June 9, 2009 at 1:16 pm |
  10. Dan

    The military is voluntary and anyone who wants to join should be allowed to serve, and proudly. Supreme Court should work on things that are more important.
    Keller, TX

    June 9, 2009 at 1:19 pm |
  11. Mark Dorman

    No, one's sexual preference should have no bearing on the job they are hired to do. The Supreme Court should not be ruling on Pentagon orders to it's men and women in uniform. The subject of sex should not be brought up in the military unless someone has committed a crime involving sex.

    June 9, 2009 at 1:20 pm |
  12. Rick Medina,OH

    Jack,

    I cannot think of a better place to decide a civil rights issue than the Supreme Court.

    What we are discussing is a man or woman with skills and ability, who has chosen to apply them to the benefit of their nation. Their sexual preferences differ from the 'mainstream.' And that is the only thing that makes them different from the thousands with whom they serve.

    Let the 'Supremes' do their thing. Veteran combat soldiers will look at it differently: "Do I want you covering my back?" And to the veterans, that is all that mattered.

    Rick, Medina, OH

    June 9, 2009 at 1:24 pm |
  13. David in San Diego

    It would be better if it were repealed by Congress or, if possible, by Executive Order, but otherwise yes, the Supreme Court should take the case and find that it discriminates illegally, for no compelling public purpose.

    June 9, 2009 at 1:35 pm |
  14. Anthony....Swedesboro, NJ

    I was in the Army and I never asked but could usually tell. This whole concept is political correctness gone amuk. It's kindergarten stuff like the N..word and mentally-challenged.
    The homosexuals are the last vestige of people being denied their unalienable rights. If it takes a Supreme Court decision, then so be it.
    Homosexuals, like minorities and women have always been an integral part of our armed forces. How can we force these people into the closet when they're only defending our freedoms?

    June 9, 2009 at 1:41 pm |
  15. Kevin , FL

    Jack, I feel this case has already been decided by the Majority of Lower Courts. The simple fact that the Gay community is allowed to spend even more un necessary tax payer dollars to use this as another alternate venue to overturn those decisions is ridiculous. Hey, kinda like those people that want to continually re argue about banning the 2nd Ammendmant year after year..........unproductive and entirely wasteful.....see a pattern here?

    June 9, 2009 at 1:49 pm |
  16. Jim

    Jack,

    No. This is an issue for the Commander-in-Chief. It's time to stop pretending that Gays don't exist or can't serve with honor. Other nations allow Gays to serve and make it work, we can too!

    Jim
    Reno, Nevada

    June 9, 2009 at 1:54 pm |
  17. Katiec Pekin, IL

    I don't know. It definitely should be done but whose responsibility is it?

    June 9, 2009 at 1:57 pm |
  18. Rob of Brooklyn

    NO-what happened to freedom of speech ? I know Bush wanted to take it away from us , but this Is America , not Russia

    June 9, 2009 at 1:58 pm |
  19. Conor in Chicago

    If it comes to that then I have no problem with that. That's what they are there for. Oh, and stealing elections-I almost forgot.

    June 9, 2009 at 1:59 pm |
  20. Conor in Chicago

    I'd like to think that if the Supreme Court has the authority to decide a Presidential Election then they have the power to decide miiltary policy as well.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:00 pm |
  21. Mike in Albuquerque,NM

    Don't ask don't tell was not legislated, and is not law. It is a policy of injustice by executive order. By this order we have lost many of the best servicemen we had. Translaters that we needed were dismissed. A fighter pilot that had a private relationship with a civilian, not fraternizing with another service member, was court marshalled. And, the lest goes on. Purging gays weakens the military, creates a hostile environment and injustice. I wish that SCOTUS would have the backbone to deal with this issue. But, it is not a matter of law.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:04 pm |
  22. Kelby, In Houston, Texas

    Employers of the United States of America are not allowed to discriminate against race creed color or sexual orientation. This kind of discrimination is wrong and the same rules should apply to the United States Military. No commanding officer or other member of the force should care if their fellow soldier is gay or not. That question shouldn't ever come up in the business of war

    June 9, 2009 at 2:04 pm |
  23. Ed Reed

    Recently, a West Point graduate and Iraq war veteran who speaks Arabic was discharged from the Army for being gay. Jon Stewart of The Daily Show nailed it when he said, "We allow our interrogators to torture prisoners, but we banish the soldier who can tell us what that prisoner is saying." It truly is insane.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:04 pm |
  24. Jenna

    Should the Supreme Court decide the fate of ‘Don’t ask, Don’t tell’?

    No, it should be decided by President and voted on by the House and Senate.

    The current "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy doesn't work. Because people have been outted that Didn't Tell and they have lost their earned pensions. That is just WRONG.

    We need to remember that Homosexuality is nothing new and many of our homosexual soldiers throught our history have shed their blood on our nations behalf as well.

    Homophobia has no place in our armed services and religious zealots have no place in our secular government!

    Jenna
    Roseville CA
    Roseville CA

    June 9, 2009 at 2:05 pm |
  25. Bill, Quarryville, Pennsylvania

    I feel that any one that meets the mental and physical requirements it takes to joined the U.S. military they should have the right to do so whether they're homosexual or heterosexual without having any rule like don't ask don't tell apply. But since our elected leaders are afraid or scared to make such a decision the Supreme Court needs to step in and do it for them. Once this is done I think we will find out stupid everyone was in making this a mountain out of a mold hill in the first place. When you're in the heat of battle the last thing that is on your mind is worrying about whether the person fighting beside you is gay or not, you're just glad to have them there.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:06 pm |
  26. Andrea

    Supreme Court is an awesome power. Protecting the rights of the downtrodden is the court's responsibility according to the Constitution. Among the most downtrodden are gay and lesbians in the military. One step toward assuring gay and lesbian rights in the country is assuring military rights. I hope the Court eliminates politics and embraces conscience.

    Andrea
    Victor, Montana

    June 9, 2009 at 2:10 pm |
  27. David of Alexandria VA

    The Supreme Court has determined what the vast majority of us are unqualified to determine: That the Don't Ask-Don't Tell challenge does not present a compelling enough case to to show that it violates the constitutional rights of citizens. It's up to the ACLU to do a better job of presenting their arguments.

    Regarding the 69% popular opinion - 69% of the population has not served in the military and has only limited understanding of the cultural, command, and security issues involved. I hope people don't think that gays lie weeping in their bunks every night because they "can't tell." I don't think most straight folks make a habit of publically declaring their sexual orientation in the military or elsewhere.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:13 pm |
  28. Mark, Bradednton,FL

    No it should stand as it is. I am sick and tired ot the issue there is not one day in the news were gays want certain rights. No the Supreme Court did the right thing. In the military they teach us values, honor, discipline, being courteous and the military supports families and marriage. I would not want lay in a fox hole with a guy getting funny ideas or take a shower. It is time for gays to shut up.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:13 pm |
  29. george

    You know some people are not born poor, and they can't help that, some are bald just like me, though I would choose not to be, some are born short, not by their choice, and some are born gay, and certainly not by choice, but just the way GOD intended it to be. I would be the first one to defend GOD"S right to make people just as he sees fit, perfect in HIS eyes. Why is it that some people think that they have the right to tell other people who, what, or how to be. Too many of those in the world, but come Judgement Day there will be only be one judge.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:16 pm |
  30. Tom in Desoto, Tx

    Bill Clinton reduced the national debt during his 8 years. But this wasn't one of his shining moments. I'm guessing there were gay serving when I was in the Army in Vietnam in 1969-70. I'm sure there are gays in the military and many are known by the troops. The important thing is, can the person use the firearm when needed? If a person saves my life I would not care if they are gay.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:20 pm |
  31. odessa

    no! they shouldn't because it's nobody's business regarding a military officer is gay nor lesbian.if they could perform the tasks that their military ask them to do, military officers shouldn't lose their jobs for nothing.i wished that bill clinton made it into a law not an act because many reprecussions has allowed military officers to lose their jobs because they are gay which is so absured.i hope that president obama will fix this issue because gays and lebsians need to be appreciated into our society as human beings not outcasts.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:22 pm |
  32. Ed Plano,Texas

    Jack: The Supreme Court should decide in favor of any patriot serving in the military. It's the only way the court can redeem itself for handing the election to George Bush 8 years ago.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:23 pm |
  33. Meg from Troy, Ohio

    Jack–
    Someone needs to do it. The military should either allow gays and lesbians to openly serve, or bar them. The current hypocritical law is a not-so-subtle form of discrimination. It's time for our society to stop playing word games where homosexuality is concerned.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:23 pm |
  34. David Gerstenfeld

    Right after they decide whether I should file or cut my nails.
    David

    June 9, 2009 at 2:26 pm |
  35. Mary Pat RN Huntington Beach, CA

    Not even a government issue!
    If a person decides to serve their country in the military, to share their sexual orientation is no ones business but theirs. To promote their preference is not acceptable either, any more than than sexual harassment by male superiors to enlisted women.
    Goes on and not given a second glance.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:26 pm |
  36. Ralph in Orange Park, FL

    The politicians will keep ducking the issue until the point when some future administration gets the country into a war too big to be fought with available volunteers. Then the government will either keep the policy, making gays a draft exempt minority, and the straights will sue; or try to change it, and the gays will sue. By the time it reaches the Supreme Court, the war will be over.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:27 pm |
  37. Tina Tx

    What a shame. There are good men and women who like the same sex and cannot serve next to a straight person. I don't care what the are just as long as I know they will protect my back if push comes to shove and I am sure this is how they are in war.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:30 pm |
  38. Sandra - Temecula

    Sexual orientation should not be part of the military. Why are those that are gay feel the need to tell anyone? Just keep your personal life to yourself and do your job. It is nobodys business.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:32 pm |
  39. patrick in michigan

    No they should not. It doesn't matter.A wounded gay person does't bleed pink.They die with honor just like the rest of our dead children.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:32 pm |
  40. marlene

    No, Congress should step up and do their job. Oh, that's right it's Congress. Congress makes laws, not the Supreme Court. If the issue is important to you, contact your legislators.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:35 pm |
  41. David, Tampa, Fl

    Jack, Unfortunately it may come to that. Too many spineless politicians looking only to get reelected. I served from 1967-1971. My father in WWII. There were probably homosexuals serving during those times though not openly. I have worked with homosexuals and they are as capable as anyone. I would like to know if my fellow co-workers are straight, homosexual, or bisexual and not have to guess or wonder. Of course, if it mattered all that much to me, I guess I could always ask.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:35 pm |
  42. Mark... Voorhees, New Jersey

    The Supreme Court should, Jack., because they should care less about uninformed or ill-formed public opinion than elected bodies, and simply do what is right. However, their decisions usually lag even further behind the will of the people than that cowardly bunch, whose chief concern is re-election, and to whom doing what is right is defined by opinion polls.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:36 pm |
  43. Denny from Tacoma, WA

    No they should not. Sexual orientation should not be a consideration for any job because it is something that need not be practiced in the workplace.and if it is it is considered sexual harassment. Having the need to proclaim one's sexual orientation in the workplace is unwarranted and those who do, whether they be homosexual or heterosexual should be disciplined accordingly.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:37 pm |
  44. Allison Sloan

    The Supreme Court as it stands is mainly white/Republican, so I see little chance that they will overturn DADT. I expect President Obama will get to it after your country's most critical issue: Health Care. I wish the gay activists ( whom I support) would be a little patient.Everything can't be "fixed" in a short few months.
    Allison, Vancouver, B.C.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:50 pm |
  45. Dennis, Columbus, Ohio

    The court should never get involved in military matters. This falls under national defence & security and is defined by the UCMJ and Field Manuals.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:52 pm |
  46. Tim in Texas

    No, there is a bill in congress to end don't ask, don't tell, and it should be pushed through immediately. The military members who signed the petition are retired and while I honor them and have tremendous gratitude for their service, they are not the best people to judge the mindset of the men and women serving now.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:52 pm |
  47. Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia

    Jack: The Supreme Court should deny to even hear the case and deny with prejudice. When you decide to serve in the military-–the bullet doesn't discriminate against the individual discharging the weapon-–nor the weapon being discharged in return--if you are going to put your life on the line for your country-–it doesn't make a difference.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:53 pm |
  48. Thom Richer

    No. Common sense and respect should dictate this ridiculous issue's outcome. The military should drop it without any further prejudice and accept those who wish to serve their country whether homosexual or heterosexual. If the person wishes to be open about their sexuality prior to being sworn in, so be it. If not...so be it. Grow up for God's sake.

    Thom Richer
    negaunee, MI

    June 9, 2009 at 2:57 pm |
  49. Paul S. Columbia, SC

    We do not need more government intrusion into an individuals private life. The highest authority will one day sit in judgement of individual personal behavior and it isn't the Supreme Court. Until then, how about focusing on what's really broken in America instead?

    June 9, 2009 at 2:57 pm |
  50. Former Republican in Virginia

    Someone should.

    Many NATO allies allow persons to serve irrespective of sexual orientation (European Union prohibits discrimination in service). So if our military is serving with our allies then our troops are serving with persons who are openly gay.

    Defense Department has not scene an issue with this nor has it commented on any problems with our allies military because of such a policy.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:58 pm |
  51. Remo .............. Austin, Texas

    Jack,
    Is the military crazy? The private sector works with openly gay indviduals and we seem to be doing okay. So what's with the military?
    Was President Clinton having a bad day when he passed this tripe? Oh right, he was impeached for some sexual thing wasn't he.

    June 9, 2009 at 2:59 pm |
  52. Dea in Fayetteville NC

    yes, the Supreme Court needs to make a decision, once and for all, whether our brave men and women in the military, who also happen to be gay, can continue to serve.

    If conservatives don't want gays in the military they need to step up and join to fill those spots. Otherwise, they need to just shut up.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:00 pm |
  53. Kyle Irvine, CA

    Yes Jack,
    It will put a end to the debate for good either way. And why the Supreme Court is at it, they should throw out California's appeal to allow same sex marriage. I am sick and tired of hearing the "Equality For All" gemic. California has decided people, learn a new note to sing!

    June 9, 2009 at 3:00 pm |
  54. Kevin in Dallas, TX

    The Supreme Court should have a say in the legality of the policy. The only other people who should have any say in the policy are those serving in the military. It doesn't affect the rest of us, so we shouldn't force our will on them.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:05 pm |
  55. Pablo in Tejas

    Jack
    of course they should. This is an issue of conflicting rights, pitting the rights of idividual citizens against the rights of an institution of their government. That is precisely the sort of problem "SCOTUS" was intended to resolve.

    Pablo
    Arlington Texas

    June 9, 2009 at 3:05 pm |
  56. Barbara in NC

    I think it should be voted on by WE THE PEOPLE.

    Too many decisions are made that WE do not want.

    They are already mixed in the barracks and bathrooms, what's so strange about letting people be who they are and be honest? Gays don't attack straights. Geeeeeezzzz

    June 9, 2009 at 3:05 pm |
  57. Cheryl in South Carolina

    It's sad that we're even talking about this, Jack – gay people should be treated like everybody else, period.

    – Cheryl in Bluffton, SC

    June 9, 2009 at 3:06 pm |
  58. Dennis North Carolina

    yes, because a gay person should not have to lie or hide. we tell the world that we believe in human rights and that all people are equal and free than we should walk the walk not just talk the talk. Obama should live up to his promises and no I am Not gay but I believe in freedom.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:07 pm |
  59. Donald in CA

    No, the president should step up to the plate and carry out his campaign promise.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:14 pm |
  60. Tom, Avon, Maine, The Heart of Democracy

    "Justice delayed is Justice denied." (Gladstone)

    Ever since a bunch of activist judges appointed George Bush president rather than allow the voters to elect Al Gore as our Constitution requires, I have been waiting for the Supreme Court to redeem itself. Here is their chance what are they waiting for? Do your duty. Keep your oath.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:15 pm |
  61. Vinnie Vino

    Jack,

    They don't have too, as American citizens the country's constitution has already decided the fact we are all equal. The high court can't ceate a seperate class for individuals because of their freedom of choice in how they live their life.

    Vinnie Vino
    Central Islip, NY

    June 9, 2009 at 3:15 pm |
  62. Nancy, Grand Ledge,MI

    I don't trust the Supreme Court to make a decision, since their decision on Bush v. Gore nearly destroyed this country. It's time for the President to step up and do what is right. If the support of 69% of Americans isn't reason enough to cover their political behinds, I don't know what is. We are throwing highly skilled people out of the military at a time when they are desperately needed. They are willing to sacrifice for the good of our country, and we are slapping them in the face for their effort.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:16 pm |
  63. Larry from Georgetown, Texas

    No they shouldn't need to decide. If they, "gay or lesbian" want to serve in the military, then let them go to Iraq and live there for the next 100 years with McCain and Cheney. As a matter of fact just move all of them over there all expenses paid, then we wouldn't need to decide if they're entitled to rights like the rest of us perfect human beings. I doubt if the Supreme Court can make such a decision anyway since it's not part of the Constitution.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:17 pm |
  64. Ray in Nashville

    Yes, Jack, they should. I will remind you that when Truman integrated the military 61 years ago, people had the same objections as they do about this issue; it would mark the end of our armed forces and recruits would be hard to come by. It turned out not to be so.

    As for the issue of recruiting and retaining personnel, the economy will remain the driving force behind military recruitment, just as it always has. When times are hard, more men and women will join the military. When times are good, fewer recruits will come forward.

    This whole issue is just bigotry and hate rearing it's ugly head.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:17 pm |
  65. SteveM

    Absolutely Jack!! If the Supreme Court is the forum where legal arguments are conducted on the constitutionality of certain laws which potentially undermine our Constitutional tenants, then the Supreme Court should address how the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy stacks up against the constitutional principle which speaks to the issue of Freedom Of Speech and the subsequent punishment by the military to some of it's members when they exercise that freedom to speak about their particular sexual preferences......

    Steve
    Clifton, VA

    June 9, 2009 at 3:19 pm |
  66. NANCY M.- Colorado

    The sensible thing would be to get rid of "don't ask, don"t tell". The problem is that the Republicans would find a way to make a big political deal out of it, unstead of agreeing with anything our President does. I really hope we, as a country, have evolved beyond the stigma and bigotry, but we probably haven't.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:20 pm |
  67. Janice from Collingswood NJ

    Of course they should hear that case. They are the ultimate judge. I was very disappointed and confused as to their action yesterday.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:20 pm |
  68. Alex (CT)

    Honestly I'm suprised that they haven't heard arguements about it already. I've never heard of findings that said that LGBT people pose an internal threat to the military and if they want to serve their country why not let them? Personally I already view this policy as rather discriminating.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:22 pm |
  69. Jim from Chicago

    Jack, I have to admit that his total inactivity on this issue has me extremely disappointed in President Obama's performance. I am as straight as an arrow, but this is a ridiculous policy that should have been eliminated years ago. The other western powers have openly gay members serving; they have no problems. Yet, we seem to have this homophobic streak that seems to prevent us from doing the right and smart thing right now.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:22 pm |
  70. Paul Austin, Texas

    Yes then maybe it will go away I do not see a problem with gays in the Armed Forces they have been there forever as long as they are not pedifiles.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:24 pm |
  71. John Webster, Aldergrove BC Canada

    Yes Jack and then the pressure will be off Obama and he can get on with important business. The makeup of the court is getting more fair minded and the question of equal rights for gays is one the court would have to address fairly.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:29 pm |
  72. Stacy from Leesburg, VA

    President Obama should live up to his promise on this one and I think he eventually will. The problem is that he is trying to enact an ambitious agenda and adding gays in the military to this agenda gives the GOP a chance to focus on gays as opposed to the collapsing economy. Once the rest of his agenda is in place, I think President Obama will take this on...but it will be after the 2010 election!

    June 9, 2009 at 3:30 pm |
  73. Jeff C in CT

    The military is for killers not social engineers! There is no personal life in the military!! Only Duty. Don't ask don't tell is just perfect!

    Jeff C in New Britain, CT

    June 9, 2009 at 3:30 pm |
  74. pat in lexington

    It makes me sick that thousands of members of the military have been ousted because of this. The soldier on Anderson Cooper 360 last night is absolutely right: enforcing this rule hurts the troops/units that are left to do the work, now without some of the gifts and talent that should be allowed to remain there. Somebody should end this farce as soon as possible. If Obama won't do it, and Congress won't do it, the let the Supreme Court have at it!

    June 9, 2009 at 3:31 pm |
  75. Jack - Lancaster, OH

    Jack:

    Former President Czar Bush is the model for a "Decider", and I do not think a Supreme Czar Justice acould do worse, but do not underestimate them!

    June 9, 2009 at 3:31 pm |
  76. emma-worcester ma

    Jack, that question is irrevant, reframe your question, they already decided!

    June 9, 2009 at 3:32 pm |
  77. Jack Martin in Boynton Beach fL

    Why not? Their past decisions haven't done us much good. Anything they do since they fouled up the entire country with their decision in 2000 to allow the Bush debacle to happen is viewed by suspicion by me. They should all quit and let President Obama Choose a new court.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:32 pm |
  78. Jane (Minnesota)

    Jack, the EOE laws that contractors are required to follow to bid most government projects should also apply to the military. No discrimination based on the same criteria as EOE dictates – that includes sexual orientation. It's not difficult, people.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:33 pm |
  79. John A. Maloney Jr.

    This should not even be an issue. If a person wants to serve their country let them they are very special people. Get rid of the homophobes there the ones that worry me john st marys pa.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:34 pm |
  80. Brad in Memphis, TN

    I've served with straight and gay veterans. The gays were some of the most competent and effective at their jobs and have proven their worth. If I had to choose someone to go to war with, I'd prefer a highly competent gay man over a simply average straight man. The Supreme Court shouldn't have to decide this issue. We as a country should have the backbone to honor their dedication by repealing this legislatively.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:34 pm |
  81. mike in union city,ca

    Hey Jack,of course more conservatives and weekly church goers support gays in the military now. if you can;t eliminate them here, you can over there. The supremes won't touch this issue now because the conservatives won't chance a vote that might not go their way.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:35 pm |
  82. Richard in Mexico

    Sure, Jack, the increased support is coming from "conservatives and weekly churchgoers." Could be a conspiracy to have more gays on our front lines than their sons and daughters. Watch 'em. There's a reason those groups would support this...

    June 9, 2009 at 3:37 pm |
  83. Alan- Buxton, Maine

    Gay people are PEOPLE first and foremost. They deserve the same rights and considerations as all people." Don't ask, Don't tell" is a fraud and should be terminated by whatever means works. The Supreme Court would probably be the best way as that would leave little question as to it's legality.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:37 pm |
  84. Dr. Giorgio in Italy

    The Supreme Court should decide the fate of Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and Don't Look, Don't Touch, and Don't Pee on the Flowers!

    June 9, 2009 at 3:38 pm |
  85. Jay in Texas

    I don't care who takes the credit for ending "Don't ask, don't tell" but the fact is that it must end soon. Since as many Americans oppose this very discriminatory policy as approve of the first months of Obama's presidency, I think that President Obama's broken promise to end it, bacause of its divisiveness, is a cop-out. Gays and bisexuals are planning a huge march on Washinton later this year and then we will be demanding to be treated equally under the law for all Americans to see. Just like the black people of the 1960s, we will not be oppressed any longer.
    Brownwood, Texas

    June 9, 2009 at 3:38 pm |
  86. Lisa in Shelton CT

    yes – it is time for the USA to end unlawful discrimination. It would be legally actionable discrimination and intolerable conduct to use anyone's sex or sexuality against them in corporate America, it shouldn't be allowed in the military either.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:39 pm |
  87. Nuwan

    If it is a constitutional matter they should make a decision. If companies hire workers regardless of the sexual orientation, what is this big problem that military has about such a policy. I do not see why that law can not be repealed.

    Nuwan from Houston, TX

    June 9, 2009 at 3:39 pm |
  88. Aureole

    This law is outrageous and should be repelled. I wonder what President Obama is waiting for.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:40 pm |
  89. Svein from Oregon

    yes it should be the supreme court since it is a civil rights issue. Obama should not waste his precious political ammunition on something that should have been decided on a decade ago.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:43 pm |
  90. Carol c.

    Can't believe I am upset about this, but it is time for this to be abolished. I have no vested interest as none of my family fall in this category who served, but they had no problems with gays serving in the military. We have so many other problems of monumental substance and all this would take would be the leaders listening to the people. The military cannot afford to lose young men and women who wish to serve just being of their sexual orientation.

    Knoxville, TN

    June 9, 2009 at 3:45 pm |
  91. Bill from pa

    I feel that the draft should be reinstated, and EVERYBODY be required to serve. Anyone causing disruption by their actions, be removed with the appropriate penalties and an undesirable record.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:48 pm |
  92. sharon kitchen

    I think that the people who wish to serve---should.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:49 pm |
  93. Richard-Arkansas

    Let's see. We have a problem finding translators for farsi and other languages used in Afganistan. And we have fired over 50 translators who spoke farsi and other languages used in Afganistan from the military because of "Don't ask, don't tell".

    Actually, this sounds like the Religious Right idea of sanity! Hopefully one of those who we can't find a translator for isn't planning on blowing up a church somewhere.

    The logic that a gay person that we don't know about doesn't harm the military but one we do know about does harm the military. Which would seem to be the one who could be blackmailed? Comeon, get real.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:52 pm |
  94. WW

    Yes, The Supreme Court decide the fate of Don't ask, Don't tell. If I was hurt or sick in Combat or any where else, I don't care if the person that can help me is Gay, straight, or some where in between, as long as He/or She can help me an other persons stay in the fight..

    WW

    Texas

    June 9, 2009 at 3:54 pm |
  95. Ann from Hampton, New Jersey

    This law should be eliminated altogether. I wonder how many men and women were in the past wars starting with the Civil War, were gay and put their lives on the line to defend our country? Nothing was mentioned then as to who was gay or not. Why now?

    June 9, 2009 at 3:55 pm |
  96. Melissa

    No, this is not a matter for the courts, its a matter for Congress. The courts are too easily bought and sold for the highest bidder. Congress needs to determine whether protection of the homosexual population should be added to the Constitution as an ammendment to the Bill of Rights as they have done protecting race, and sex from discrimination in the past. Its time.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:55 pm |
  97. Don (Ottawa)

    No, I don't think so. This would a classic case of legislating from the bench. The reasons generals want to keep this policy is that most of the recuits come from the lesser educated sector of the population, who unfortuneately are more narrow minded about things like this than those who are more worldly. Yes, it would effect recuiting, but maybe that's not bad.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:56 pm |
  98. chuck b / coastal n.carolina

    the only people making a issue out of this is the media.... drop it and let it go.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:57 pm |
  99. Richard B.C. Canada

    Don't care and don't want to know.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:57 pm |
  100. Jasmine in Germany

    Of those discharged, how many were heterosexual who claimed to be homosexual in order to be discharged? I assume the military application asks you about your gender and marital status. Why not also ask about your sexual orientation? Your answer could be optional. All-law abiding citizens should be able to serve their country. Now don't tell me that homosexuality is against the law in some states, that would be a human rights crime.

    June 9, 2009 at 3:59 pm |
  101. P Rees

    Jack – of course the Supreme Court should decide this issue and of course anyone of any sexual orientation should be able to serve openly in the military. Anything short of this is simple bigotry. The military has always been a leader in breaking down boundaries and this should be another one of those times. Is this the TIME for this change? Let's get out of Iraq and restore military readiness before we ask any more of an already overwhelmed military structure. Change is not easy (and requires significant administrative support) and the military has enough on its plate just now.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:00 pm |
  102. T. G. from the virgin islands

    The issue of gays in the military is such a hot topic, I cannot blame President Obama too much for not touching on it right away. No matter what he or the Supreme Court do, they will always be a group a people who will be dissatisfied with the decision. Beside, the President need to focus on fixing the economy and health care first.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:04 pm |
  103. DON IN WESTPORT, MASS.

    Yes, do away with it. Who cares itf they openly admit they are gay.

    I say if gay men and women want to fight on the front lines and die for thier country with the rest of them, why should we discriminate?

    As long as thier openess doesn't affect thier training and professionalism when in close quarters or in the field let them do it with the knowledge that they are not being discriminated against.

    Remember when Arican American's could only become cooks when they enlisted in the service of our country.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:05 pm |
  104. Chris D., NYC

    No..Not yet...Let's wait until after 2010 congressional elections. As DEMS put a stamp on congressional seats as safe.....Hopefully. After healthcare is passed, and a energy bill is passed, then perhaps congress can work on a binding law. Or President Obama can pass some kind of executive order....

    June 9, 2009 at 4:06 pm |
  105. Patricia

    Good Golly Jack!!! Do you really want Justice Scalia, Justice Alito, & Cheif Justice Roberts deciding this issue? These men along with Justice Thomas would throw every last gay person in this country out regardless of the great contributions gay people have made to this country.
    If every state finally wakes up & legalizes gay marriage, the issue could finally die & life would get back to normal.
    Patricia

    June 9, 2009 at 4:08 pm |
  106. Marjorie Lominy

    Congress stuck their nose in it the last time, they need to fix it.
    Marjorie
    NY

    June 9, 2009 at 4:09 pm |
  107. Joe in VA

    When it comes to defending our country and what's best for the military, I'll defer to the generals rather than the lawyers.

    Chatham, VA

    June 9, 2009 at 4:09 pm |
  108. Richard, Syracuse, NY

    NO. the idea should just be scraped. As a Disabled Vet I believe that everyone should have the Honor to defend thier own Country. We learned our lessons and allowed African Americans, and then Women, so why can't Gays be allowed to defend this country like anyone else.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:12 pm |
  109. Barbie from Hollywood, CA

    Why the Supreme Court, Jack? All President Obama needs to do is write a Signing Sentence and enact it. Bush wrote hundreds of them, and few, if any, were ever ignored or challenged. And, in my humble opinion, he should do it NOW!

    June 9, 2009 at 4:12 pm |
  110. kim

    Yes. What make being gay so wrong. Gay or straight you fight and serve this country the same way. Every one gets hurt or killed the same way. We are all human beings.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  111. Dan in NY

    There is nothing in our Constitution that specifically addresses gays in the military. However, the Constitution does provide for equal protection under the law. Homosexuals deserve that same protection, especially when they are volunteering to put their lives on the line to protect us while we sit on the sidelines.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  112. Eric VanSickle, Cedar Falls, Iowa

    "Don't ask, don't tell" is by and large unconstitutional, because it discriminates against one specific group of people – the lesbigay community. When you discriminate against any group, it violates the Equal Protections Clause of the Constitution. Why the SCOTUS refused to hear this case is beyond me! Pres. Obama should issue an executive order repleaing DADT.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  113. Pam in Boulder, CO

    Let me get this straight - they represent the Republican options? As a Democrat, I say, "Yeehaw . . . party on, President Obama!

    June 9, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
  114. JS

    I think the president will eventually end it (it's not like he doesn't have enough on his plate right now)

    June 9, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  115. Sam Connors

    Don't ask don't tell has run it's course. It should be repealed and gays should be allowed to serve in the military openly. I'm still not sure why this is even an issue. Fact of the matter is, why is it in effect anyway? Are macho military men afraid of catching the gay gene? Honestly it's ridiculous. Let the Supreme court decide how unconstitutional it is to ban someone from service because of their sexual orientation. If any other career imposed this kind of rule, they'd get the pants sued off of them for discrimination.

    Sam Connors,
    San Diego, California

    June 9, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  116. Amalor

    I was under the impression that the Supreme Court was intended to check to make sure the Constitutional Rights of Americans were not being trampled on? By not hearing the case, they are saying that only the rights of those they deem worthy are protected, rather than the rights of those who risk their lives for our politicians.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  117. Patricia in Korea

    I think an executive order recalling DADT would be the best way to go. President Obama really should exercise that option.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  118. Chris

    Don't ask, don't tell has been a farce from the beginning. It was devised by a bunch of homophobes to guard the club-house door. It should be outlawed once and for all. Isn't it curious that it took decades to allow women to serve.

    Chris
    Lathrup Village, MI

    June 9, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  119. Mary Lou

    IT SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BE DECIDED AT ALL. If a president called for it, the president should get rid of it.

    It is time for freedom of choice – if someone wants to go into a branch of the service to potantionally kill people- tho I would wish no one would have to kill anyone – that is a free person's choice.

    And, I do not trust the Supreme Court at this time. I do not trust any supreme court at this time. If only freedom of choice were what a democracy stood for.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  120. MW

    All who want to serve should be allowed to serve. All who need out due to PTSD should be allowed out honorably and soon. Too many neocons on the supremes to get a fair decision.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  121. Linda in Arizona

    Honestly, I don't know what the answer is. Luckily, I'm not personally involved in the question.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:16 pm |
  122. Roy

    I thought the job of the Supreme Court was to make sure that our "Constitution", "Bill of Rights", "Freedom of Speach" and other mundain issues like "Freedom of Choice" were upheld for ALL AMERICANS. Instead it seems that they are thrown these little tid bits time and again from someone trying their darnest to take away some groups freedoms or rights away. Don't ask Don't tell is among those burning issues that should not even be on the table. Are those involved Americans? Do they want to serve their country? What's the problem.....homo phobia? Is that a law? This country needs to get real.......Don't push me with your life style and do your job and I won't push mine on you. Simple.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:17 pm |
  123. Ken (San Diego)

    No...The Supreme Court does not need to decide the fate of "Don't ask Don't Tell"..What needs to happen is that the leaders of this Country and the leaders of our military need to "GROW UP" Other countries around the world allow gay people to openly serve in the military with no adverse consequences...OH AND BY THE WAY!!...Other countries allow same sex couples to marry without adverse consequences!!

    June 9, 2009 at 4:20 pm |
  124. Stacy from Fairfax, VA

    No. This is an example of one of those issues that cannot be answered by our Constitution.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:20 pm |
  125. Lynn, Columbia, Mo..

    The Supreme Court shouldn't decide what socks to wear everyday. They are the most unsupreme institution in this country and they should not be there for life. They should have term limits like the President. Idiots all.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:20 pm |
  126. Claire, Melbourne, FL

    Hello Jack,

    It's not up to the Supremes – it's the responsibility of Congress to make the laws, but they wimp out at anything the slightest bit controversial.

    The President can put a halt to the firings of those vets who declare, but maybe after we get Healthcare done he can work on that problem and get Congress to stand up and take it on the chin.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:21 pm |
  127. Jim/NC

    Some one needs to make the decision...our current or past presidents won't!

    June 9, 2009 at 4:23 pm |
  128. judy Knight

    Jack,
    This is rediculouse. What happened to freedom for all. The right and freedom to choose?
    If peoples choices dont hurt anyone else why cant they have the freedom to choose? This choice shouldnt deprive them from fighting for the country they live in. Who gives a damn, people need to tend their own back yard and feel fortunate they dont have a life style that people want to poke their nose into.
    J.K. Boise, Idaho

    June 9, 2009 at 4:23 pm |
  129. Allen, Houston

    Yes Jack. Until the issue is resolved legally, homophobic military brass will continue to oppose it.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:23 pm |
  130. jim doanld

    I think the time has come to be realistic about this. The don't ask don't tell policy was a cop out when it was written but understable at the times. It is time to allow people to openly declare themselves if they chose to. It is part of our daily lives and workforce now, as well as in our rights that employers can't discriminate against sexual preference. I understand that President Obama is juggling several more pressing issues, so the Supreme COurt should take the pressure off him. What the problem is if they wade into this, it may bring the marriage issue into focus as well. But regardless it is time to get off the pot and do it.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:24 pm |
  131. Richard New Hampshire

    NO.The congress should step up to the plate.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:24 pm |
  132. Brian Smith PhD

    Having the court decide saves the Marine Corp from finally admitting that the Marines are the biggest "boy's club" ever conceived.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:24 pm |
  133. Jeff in E. Lyme, CT

    No, the Supreme Court shouldn't even need to get involved. The House & Senate should get it on the schedule right away and fix it.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:26 pm |
  134. CDR Dick Goldman

    Yes. It is clearly a "Due Process" and "Equal Protection of the Law" issue. Back during the Korean War – in the McCarthy Era – the Supreme Court let stand a lower court ruling that a citizen has a constitutional right to serve in the military.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:26 pm |
  135. Pugas-AZ

    This is a military issue, and I'm tired hearing about it. Courts, and the billions of lawyers in this country, stay out of it.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:27 pm |
  136. Sheryl

    YES, you bet the highest court in the nation should decide Don't ask Don't tell. We ask our elected leadership to make decisions for us, just to turn around and complain about their decisions. If the Supreme Court decides it, we won't have several weeks of finger pointing at each party, Obama bashing or LATE FRIDAY announcements. ROLL ON SUPREME COURT.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:27 pm |
  137. Gigi

    Good for the Supreme Court. They have my support.
    The sooner the US ignores this debate the better off we'll be. "Don't ask, Don't tell" is a policy that will work for everyone that prefers to not have something crammed down their throats. When you cram down my throat your agenda is when you find a enemy in me, when it comes to your sexual preference. I don't want to know yours and I don't want you to be interested in mine.

    Oregon .

    June 9, 2009 at 4:29 pm |
  138. Jamey in VA

    I would much rather have the military do the right thing (I know, but it is possible) and not have our highest court mandate which groups of people can and cannot serve. I'd be afraid that the verbage in any law of this type would lead to more division in an institution that prides itself on cohesion.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:29 pm |
  139. James

    How about don't know, don't care!!!

    June 9, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
  140. Agnes from Scottsdale, AZ

    Jack: This is an issue that the President will get to, however, American citizens ability to get and pay for health care looms as hugely as sthe financial crisis. Every cause can't be resolved in the first half of the first year of his administration. So far the President has kept to the committments that he vowed to deal with. He will get to this as well. Let's all tak a deep breadth!

    June 9, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
  141. Elms

    leave the military alone!

    June 9, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
  142. kevin

    Obama should get rid of this stupid law for the military, In a america all people are created equal under our constutition. This goes for the Military too, they don't have their own Constutition and President.

    This law is Discrimination pure and simple.

    To all Hetero who think that gay people are not born that way, just ask yourself this, How come I was born Hetero, Maybe you are on the wrong planet.

    My marriage is not in any danger from a Gay couple. Rethuglican please get over yourself. You do not run the world or this Nation.

    YOU GO PRESIDENT OBAMA, ALL THE WAY THRU TO 2016.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:32 pm |
  143. BJ, Columbus, GA

    Whether the Supreme Court hears the case or not is irrelevant. The law needs to be repealed - it is discriminatory. Of course, we could extend "Don't ask, don't tell" to choice of underwear or beer preference - makes about as much sense.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm |
  144. Diane Glasser

    Yes, and they need to get rid of it. We have lost many good military men and women to this stupid outdated policy. We could have been out of Iraq if the gay male translators had been allowed to continue to serve. Just think of all the great missed opportunities that have been lost because of the narrow mindedness of a small ignorant group of people.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm |
  145. T - Cherry Hill, NJ

    i don't so Jack. The make up on the current court lacks the ability to apply common sense to most situations.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:34 pm |
  146. LUCI - ILLINOIS

    Don't let the Supreme Court touch it. Leave it like it is. The Service men/women need to serve their country, like they signed up to do and don't ask or tell

    June 9, 2009 at 4:35 pm |
  147. Bob D, Morrisown, NJ

    I don't think it matters which branch of government ultimately overturns this outdated compromise, eventually. It probably is unconstitutional, but this supreme court is unlikely to find it so. As far as the other two branches of government, they are in the midst of so many crises that need immediate attention, that just actions like overturning this compromise, unfortunately should wait until that status of our nation stabilizes.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:36 pm |
  148. Doug - Dallas, TX

    Bravery and serving your country are not restricted to sexual orientation nor should they be. As I recall, women were never allowed to serve in front line positions until a couple of lawsuits determined they could and they have distinguished themselves in their service. We'll continue to have these problems until we get over our phobias and prejudices.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:39 pm |
  149. Jerry Jacksonville, Fl.

    No this is an issue for the congress

    June 9, 2009 at 4:39 pm |
  150. Lane

    Don't forget to mention that the administration suggested the Court pass the case, at least according to the story CNN reported. How long will Obama be allowed to play both sides?

    June 9, 2009 at 4:44 pm |
  151. Wilson from Alabama

    I would not want a homosexual covering my father's, my brother's, my sister's, my child's, or my grandchild's back. It is a blatant breakdown in military stability and readiness. Too much time is spent in psychological trauma and court and puts out troops in harms way with our enemies when captured.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:48 pm |
  152. Tasha from Houston, TX

    Yes, the Supreme Court needs to end the discrimination allowed by dont ask, dont tell. Within the walls of the military, men and women are hunted down, scrutinized and black-listed for even the slightest accusation of being gay. Its time to let it go and let all people, gay or straight, serve openly in the military,

    June 9, 2009 at 4:50 pm |
  153. A Jones

    Gays have existed for an eternity - what the Supreme Court does or does not do will not change a biological function. It's time our country gets its head out of its butt and realize that some people will be gay despite any effort to legislate this issue. I'm not gay, but denying people of their rights for any reason is against my Constitution, and I believe we share the same Constitution.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:51 pm |
  154. Michael, Cleveland

    Speaking as openly gay man, I say no! I think that this needs to be taken through the States on an individual baisis. It will require a change of attitude on a national level and that takes time. We have come a long way in the last 15 years, but we have a long way to go!
    I think part of the the problem we as a nation have with abortion, is that the decision was forced on us pretty much all at once. If that debate had gone through the process of state to state, the country would have had an opportunity to grow accustomed to it and we would be at a very different place today.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:51 pm |
  155. Jenny from Nanuet, New York

    Congress should vote to get rid of it as quickly as possible. Meanwhile, Obama should sign an executive order to stop the firing of gay people from the military just because of who they are. Their orientation means nothing while the skills they bring to the military mean everything.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:52 pm |
  156. Jenny from Nanuet, New York

    This isn't the '90s. As you stated, the vast majority of people support repealing DADT. It's a no-brainer. It should be repealed by whatever means necessary. We're less safe with able people not able to serve our country just because they're gay.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:53 pm |
  157. Jenny from Nanuet, New York

    Obama should sign an executive order to stop the firing of gay people from the military immediately and Congress should act to repeal DADT as soon as possible. Not only do the vast majority of people in America support gay people serving openly, the vast majority of NATO countries allow it. It's a shame we're so far behind the curve.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:54 pm |
  158. nelson

    Jack, not a Supreme?? court issue.. they need to stay out of everyday
    issues.. way too many laws now.. they just need to be enforced.. like
    a lot of others have pointed out.

    June 9, 2009 at 4:54 pm |
  159. Dino, Washington, D.C.

    Congress is the one who passed don't ask don't tell into law in 1993; they codified what had been an executive order and turned into law. Because it is congress' creation it is congress that should lift it. They should do so sooner rather than later. President Obama would almost certainly sign it into law.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:00 pm |
  160. Dea in Fayetteville NC

    yes, the Supreme Court needs to make a decision, once and for all, whether our brave men and women in the military, who also happen to be gay, can continue to serve.

    If conservatives don’t want gays in the military they need to step up and join to fill those spots. Otherwise, they need to just shut up.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:02 pm |
  161. Scott Stodden

    Jack Im an openly gay man, been gay ever since I was 16yrs, Im 32 yrs old now and I dont beleive that we should have our service men and women who serve in the armed forces be openly gay. I thought when President Clinton passed the Dont Ask Dont Tell law that was the best way to handle the situation. Being gay is a private issue and the military should not be the place to come out of the closet, if President Obama is smart he will leave well enough alone.

    Scott Stodden (Freeport, IL)

    June 9, 2009 at 5:05 pm |
  162. Ken in NC

    NO. Don't ask them and they won't tell.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:08 pm |
  163. Amy

    Yes it should

    Amy
    Seattle WA

    June 9, 2009 at 5:10 pm |
  164. Roland(St George,UT)

    Absolutely not. But it is time to let gays serve openly and Congress should be the body to decide.
    The military is not "employment" rather it is a utlitarian function of the Government. Eligibility standards are set for a reason. This is why for example a physically disabled individuals who would be eligible for protected classification in the civilian sector would be deemed unfit for military service. Given the numbers you mentioned, I think it's time for Congress to open the military to gays/lesbians. There will never be 100% public approval of anything, so why wait any longer? We need qualified people to serve and keeping them out because of their sexual orientation is ridiculous. The Services have excellent Social Actions training programs which every soldier/sailor/airman/marine is required to go through, in order to learn how to accept the wide array of diversity already in the ranks (age/gender/family background, etc.), and adding one more category for sexual orientation is not going to affect cohesiveness. These ancient retired Generals who grew up in a homophobic society are outdated in their thinking. I served in the military several years and believe me, there are already a lot of gays/lesbians in there and doing their jobs well. (Roland/St George, UT)

    June 9, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  165. Rick in Northern California

    No they should not. It shouldn't even be a question that is up for debate. If gay people want to put their life on the line for our country more power to them. If it bothers the straight men and women, segregate them. Give the gays their own barracks so the straight people don't have to associate with them if they choose not to.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  166. Travis

    No, that should be left up to the commander-in-chief. He is, after all, the leader of our military.
    Spartanburg, SC

    June 9, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  167. Zac - Atlanta

    Jack, I can say as a gay man that I'm sure that Scalia and Thomas would love nothing more than to be able to send myself and others like me to the front lines. I'm amazed they passed up the opportunity.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  168. Hank

    I watched the interview on CNN last week with Victor Fehrenbach, a highly decorated Lieutenant Colonel in the US Air Force who was recently stood down on the basis of allegations he had engaged in homosexual acts. This is disgraceful that a man with such an impeccable service record can be stood down for what he does in his spare time!

    Obama came into office on a promise of repealing this gross violation of civil rights, a policy which for over 15 years has given legitimacy and legal-status to what is fundamentally discrimination. Let's make sure we hold him to this promise!

    Hank, New York City

    June 9, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  169. Kathy Z.

    WHY in this country must we go to the Supreme Court and ask them to force us to do what we know is right? People said African Americans in the military would destroy morale. They said women in combat zones would destroy morale. Neither did. Now some people continue to say that Gays in the military will destroy morale. Let's just get it right on our own this time.
    –Kathy Z.
    Prior Lake, MN

    June 9, 2009 at 5:11 pm |
  170. Cristian

    Of course they should, why not? If they want to fight for our country why say no to them? Is stupid not to allow it.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  171. Roger in SC

    Yes, SCOTUS should decided, but not on the question of "Don't ask, don't tell". They should decide who has the right to make the policy. I think that the current policy should stay in tact since I don't want to spend sleepless nights wonder who is in the next bunk.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  172. PVT POW

    Trust me, as someone who recently ended his career in the U.S. Army and is gay, don't ask don't tell is a blessing! The Army is such an incredibly segregated and racist institution and most civilians don't realize it. Allowing gays to be open will just make it worse. It's for their protection and people don't see that.The military likes to cover up all their faults... including hate crimes.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  173. sanja

    Best to leave the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", policy alone. I have always wondered why the gay and lesbian community has to announce what sexual preference they have. As a heterosexual, I don't go around announcing it, as if anyone would care anyway!

    June 9, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  174. Annie, Atlanta

    After Bush vs. Gore I sadly would not trust them to safeguard the civil rights of the people of this great nation, ever.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  175. Mike Callaghan

    Jack,

    If the Court is willing to send their own kids to fight; if the Court is willing to put life on hold to Serve, then, OK let the Court decide; otherwise, forgive the obvious: let the Generals or, to be real radical, let the soldiers decide!

    June 9, 2009 at 5:12 pm |
  176. Darrell in Iowa

    NO, the supreme court should not decide the matter. President Obama should issue an executive order stopping the discharge of gays and lesbians temporarily until congress can rescind the law.

    Its ludicrious for the government to be using stop loss forcing persons to stay in the military while kicking out highly qualified individuals who wish to remain and serve their country.

    It was so sad to learn of the 18 yr pilot and Iraq Hero who is being kicked out two years before his retirement. Shame on this country.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  177. Maggie

    This is America! If you're going to potentially give up your life for your country AND it's people you should at least be allowed to do it while being who you are.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  178. Tyler Elliot

    No. Absolutely not. I am completely convinced, as a member of the Army, that the don't ask don't tell policy SHOULD NOT BE DECIDED BY THE SUPREME COURT. Personaly, I support the policy. However, should the policy be seriously examined for alteration, it is the SERVICE MEMBERS who should have the vote, not the populous nor the Supreme Court. We are the ones who will be effected by this policy change, and we are the ones who should decide if we are willing to work with openly gay/lesbian individuals.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  179. Shawn

    Jack,
    I think the supreme court should once and for all deciede on this so we can focus on other important issues like the economy.

    Shawn
    Virginia

    June 9, 2009 at 5:13 pm |
  180. Bonnie and Maury

    Yes, Absolutely.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  181. Roman Deutsch, Butler, PA

    I am one that believes enough in our democracy/republic that we should let the people decide on this. Put it to a vote.

    It would seem selfish to me not to let gays serve. If they are willing to spill their blood for America then so be it. Maybe they can have a separate unit specifically for gays. We just might find out that gays are just as strong, enduring and smart as straight men and woman.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  182. russell martin of Georgia

    Jack,
    The president is the Commender in Chief , he and the Chief Of Staff of the Armed Forces should decide policy for the military, not the courts.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  183. Demetrius Olivieri

    Jack, I have an interesting idea. Why not let the troops decide if their comfortable with open gays in the military. After all, they're the ones who are going to live with the outcome, not the general population or the high courts. Let the troops take a vote!

    June 9, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  184. Melissa

    The Courts don't make the laws, they interpret them. Congress makes the laws.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  185. don gattin

    I think gays should be able to serve. There are serveral other countries that have openly gay military personel serving with out any problems; If these people want to serve let them. If they can follow orders and do not engage in their personal activities on duty then they should be able to serve. Right now we need all hands on deck to fight 2 battles.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  186. j/NJ

    Should the Supreme Court decide the fate of ‘Don’t ask, Don’t tell’?

    For the record Jack it is the USSC's conservative majority who refuse to change the law, no surprise...on the other hand the Court gets involved in too many moral issues which to many observers smacks of constitutional despotism...the best thing that can happen to the American people is federal legislation mandating the election of all judges, including those who sit for life on the USSC...however the moralists would contest, and once again the matter would ultimately be decided by the Court's conservative majority, who would, not surprisingly, declare the measure unconstitutional...

    June 9, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  187. Ryan

    Why does the public have a right to decide about a policy which does not affect them. Us that serve in the military should have the only vote in making a policy that affects us personally in how we do our job to protect the public. Leave the policy alone, it works. No one cares when your fighting next to each other as long as your doing your job.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:15 pm |
  188. alex

    I don't see the big deal about someone being openly gay in the military. When you are in a firefight i'm quite sure that the other persons sexuality is the least of your problems at that moment in time. So yes Jack, I think the Supreme court should decide this issue because they do not have to worry about running for a second term.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
  189. constance

    29000 kick out for telling how many are kicked out for asking?

    June 9, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
  190. Ron from Mena, Arkansas

    No indeed. The Supreme Court has ABSOLUTELY no business interfering with such matters.They should mind their own business & stay out of the don't ask don't tell matter.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  191. Josh

    It actually should. Dont ask, dont tell violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment by treating gays and lesbians differently merely because they are gay or lesbians. It's unconstitutional and the Supreme Court should have ruled it so.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  192. Brent

    I don't care who overturns it. It would be nice if someone did. As an openly gay male at work in red state, achieving our goals is never affected by my being gay. It's preposterous to think that the same things is so common in the army that the government has to sanction discrimination. If Obama doesn't move on it (and the defense of marriage act) I think the Supreme Court should. Also, if Obama doesn't move on it, it will merely be another abandoned campaign promise to the LGBT community.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  193. Brendan Barry

    Originally our government said gays and lesbians couldn't serve in the military or for that matter intelligence fields because they were vulnerable to blackmail because of their sexual orientation.

    Since homosexuality has become more accepted in society this argument could be invalid. However with the use of don't ask don't tell military personnel are now vulnerable to blackmail because of this policy.

    It is now very easy to threaten a gay or lesbian service member with exposure to their superiors and ultimately loss of their career.

    This is nothing but discrimination and serves to make our country less safe.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  194. Rob

    No, the Supreme Court should not hear the case. The Uniform Code of Military Justice which governs military members while on active duty, is promulgated by Congress which has the constitutional power to, "regulate the land and naval forces".

    This is a legislative issue, not a judicial issue.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  195. johnchristopher Saskatchewan

    Ah...Don't ask, don't tell...another blind, deaf and dumb policy worthy of the cowardly lion in the Wizard of Oz. Gay people are a fact of human civilization. They deserve as much respect as any other "segment" of society. The supreme court should decide the fate of this ridiculous policy and do so in favour of allowing Gays their God-given human rights.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  196. Former Deacon

    More of my former weekly churchgoer friends must be "seeing the light." However, I do not expect this to be resolved in the Supreme Court any time soon. This will be a next generation issue.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  197. Jackie Cannon

    Hello, Jack: I think the court's proper stance would be to rule on any conflicts after a proper law has been created, ie, if a suit arises from the consequences of a law passed on this topic at the federal level. I don not think they want to create a stance that dictates a yes or no answer to this – that sould be left to the people. Jackie, Coneecticut

    June 9, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  198. james sloan

    Jack, as a navy vet from the vietnam war, i served for four years with some sailors that were gay. some more openly than others. some were kicked out, others were not. depending on who they knew. the policies were never fair. i',m straight but have many gay friends. it's time to treat every one the same in the military and let gays serve the country they love too. Jim Sloan Phoenixville, Pa.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:18 pm |
  199. Pat

    I thought that the military is all about learning to follow the rules. Gay and lesbian behavior is anything but following rules. What on earth would posess the military to permit the influences of this deviant group? There seems to be a shift in the "norm". The don't ask don't tell option works if you keep your mouth shut, but the behavior will out sooner or later and usually under stress..like in a military action. I think they should have to declare and the military should have the right to refuse..based on deviant behavior history, they refuse for lessor reasons.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:19 pm |
  200. Al MAJOR

    I think that if one chooses to be a person in the military. what he is done in his private life should not in any way be related to his military life. The two should not be related.....If you are gay that.s your issue...

    June 9, 2009 at 5:19 pm |
  201. nick

    this needs to be its just stupid why should it matter if a soldier is gay whether they are man or woman. someones sexual preference has nothing to do with how a soldier does thier job. so we need to change this and move on to bigger and better things.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:19 pm |
  202. Scott in California

    Sure they should. The Judicial Branch SHOULD handle this "hot potato" and let Congress and The President deal with other important issues like health care, North Korea, energy issues and 2 wars. The Judicial Branch has already intruded on the Chrysler bankruptcy. Chrysler is losing more each day than a relatively small group of shareholders share is worth. I'm sorry. I feel for them. But there is a lot more at stake here. And The Supreme Court won't here "Don't ask, don't tell"? Come on.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  203. Tim Sunderland

    I think Obama realizes that the question of gays in the military does not need his help to get resolved. Set aside California and look at the other states legalizing gay marriage. Consider the Gallup poll. If Obama waits long enough–and it will not be that long–he can repeal "don't ask, don't tell" and it will be a non-event. Why should he get involved in a wedge issue that sidelines other efforts that need to be taken care of right now, the important things like the economy, healthcare and foreign policy? Obama needs the political capital. He doesn't need to expend it on a problem that will solve itself–probably sooner than we all think.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  204. Jon, Atlanta Ga.

    I think all these damn groups needs to hold their horses and let the President prioritize what is upmost important. Gays can't threat Democrate Leadership with this bull, let them get mad and vote republican whom will never change this or other gay right issues. Chill please.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  205. EugeneWiese Midlothian,Va.

    I thought the Supremes had already decided not to tackle this issue. I'm a Democrat,but I thought Barry Goldwater had the best answer to this Issue, "you don't have to be straight to shoot straight". Gene

    June 9, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  206. Cecil Jones

    Don't Ask, Don't Tell Policy must be replaced because it discriminates, but the gay soldiers kicked out are wrong. What should the new policy be..."Official Business." Quickly explained, "Official Business" means if your private business interferes with official business you have no business serving. No discrimination. Service is a privilidge not a right.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:21 pm |
  207. John

    Jack,
    Its easy for those that have never served in the military to make suggestions on dont ask don't tell. They probably also give advice to brain surgeons on how to do surgery as well, but for those of us that have served in tight quarters, the effect of openly gay people would cause havic on moral. If you want a real opinion then ask a enlisted grunt, a enlisted Sailor, or any other Enlisted people that are herded like cattle in confined spaces and stop lessoning to the talking heads.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:21 pm |
  208. Ralph Spyer chicago Il

    No Obama decision to make, it would like asking him if a black man can be president.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
  209. AJ, Potsdam, NY

    Jack,

    Under ideal circumstances, the Supreme Court would be the logical place to seek justice and have this absurd and offensive law declared unconstitutional. But with the present makeup of the Court, it would, alas, be better to wait for the glacially-moving Democrats to get around to rectifying the problem that Congress, after, all created. There is little doubt as to the position of the Three Blind Mice (Scalia, Thomas and Alito), nor most likely that of Roberts. The swing will be the perpetually-agonized Anthony Kennedy whom, I fear, will ultimately defer to the teachings of his Pope.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  210. greg

    Being a former member of the US army infantry i believe in this country and the power of the people. That said there are issues, especially related to the military, where public opinion should hold no merit. Discrimination does still exist in this country, i dont think anyone will deny that, and the true question we have to ask ourselves is who do we want protecting this nation. For most parts of the military being openly homosexual would work just fine but if you take that mentality into the combat arms MOS's of the military you would have serious implications. Holding a job such as the infantry in the military requires a certain mindset and unfortunately many of the men that volunteer for such jobs are over masculine and super macho. These are the people that go head on into combat and these are also the people that would have a problem with having an openly gay service member next to them. Are we willing to give up these individuals so that a small number of gays can openly pracitce their sex lives? My answer is unfortunately no. It could work, just not in combat arms, so we would have another level of segregation on our hands, as we currently do with women, and have to not allow gays into those combat arms jobs.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:23 pm |
  211. Jess

    Yes, the Supreme Court should decide the fate of "Don't ask, Don't tell" because the President and Congress alike have failed to take any real action in this matter despite Obama's promises to repeal this failed policy which he made when it was politically expedient to do so. Sexual preference should not be a prerequisite for joining the military and it is reprehensible that the military would rather recruit former felons than a homosexual who has no criminal record and otherwise meets all military standards. For those who claim it would "destroy morale" or damage "unit cohesion", as an Army veteran myself, I would ask those who are quick to speak such rhetoric: if the military was so concerned with "morale" then why are nearly 40% of military females enduring sexual assault / harassment (by HETEROSEXUAL MEN)?

    June 9, 2009 at 5:24 pm |
  212. David P. Vernon

    Tucson, AZ – No. This is not a Constitutional or "civil rights" issue. Had Congress not passed a law, the President could have decided this by Executive Order, it being a matter of Armed Forces administration, and he being the Commander in Chief. The fact that Congress passed the law, a stupid law, does not make this a Supreme Court matter – the Constitution empowers the Congress to pass stupid laws. President Clinton should have vetoed this one. Since he did not, Congress must unmake this policy, and there is no time to left for it in the present Congressional session, what with budgets, appropriations, the economic recovery, health care reform, two foreign wars, and hundreds of appointees waiting to be confirmed to key bureaucratic positions. This policy (and legalization of marijuana) will just have to wait their turns to be the "most important" policies left to be changed. If the by-election in 2010 further increases the Democratic majority, these changes will roll right through in 2011 with not enough votes remaining on the Right to even slow, much less stop them.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:24 pm |
  213. Marc in Dallas

    In short NO. I'm a big fan of gay rights. They shouldn't be treated any differently than the rest of us. On the other hand this is the military. When you sign up for service you become property of the USA, a soldier, a number, isn't that what basic training is all about. Despite our own personal views on this everyone can agree this is a very polarizing issue. There is always a time and a place to wave the banner for equal rights. We are in the middle of 2 wars...this is not one of those times.-Marc n Dallas

    June 9, 2009 at 5:24 pm |
  214. rick

    As a gay man, I don't care who changes the policy, but it needs to be changed. It's a slap in the face to every person serving in the military. We are not good enough to die for our country. This is the United States of America, not Iraq.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  215. Ken in NC

    NO Jack . Don’t ask them and they won’t tell.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:25 pm |
  216. Chris

    Jack , Don't ask me I'll tell you what the media just doesn't want to here . That there are intelligent thoughtful people on the other side of this question . Many people feel that issues involving gay , lesbian , and transgendered people are being rammed down our throats on so many fronts it's gone way to far . Calmly step back and think about the soldiers for just one second . If the military wanted this it would be done this morning . Obviously there are enough people including the secretary of defense who believe the soldiers on the ground don't want this anytime soon . Would all those who simply have decided they and they alone have all the answers please back off for just a little while . For the troops . Chris

    June 9, 2009 at 5:26 pm |
  217. Frank

    Honolulu, HI

    I'm for whatever means necessary to have this 'Don't ask, Don't tell' abolished 'For once and For all'. I've been in the service since the NASA Challenger incident. I would like to serve my country without the fear of losing my job but I doubt that will happen until after I have long retired (cross my fingers).

    June 9, 2009 at 5:26 pm |
  218. Robert

    I feel the men and women of the military should make the decision on gays within the military services. They are the ones who have to live and serve with gays that want and already serve.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:27 pm |
  219. Star Auburn Ohio

    until they are allowed to serve openly our constitution is a lie

    all men are created equal

    if we allow this to continue we are all guilty of bigotry do you need the defination of this its's this
    a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

    my america stand on the shoulders of men such as Lincoln, Jefferson and likes of those men who thought all men are created equal. let it be written so let it be done. It should be an order from the president and no one else.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:27 pm |
  220. lynnej from lattimore, nc

    This ridiculous rule should be repealed by the Secretary of Defense right now. No need for an unnecessary court date. This is a defense issue as well as a civil rights and a common sense issue. And right now we need every qualified person, man or woman regardless of sexual preference to defend this land our ideas.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:27 pm |
  221. Mike Long

    Jack, I feel it is the duty of the Supreme Court to listen and address all rights, of Gay Americans. Still a US citzen, living in Canada now enjoy the freedoms, of just being a human, who is gay.
    P.S. The Health Care System is great also Thanks
    Mike Toronto, ON

    June 9, 2009 at 5:27 pm |
  222. Gary in Lexington

    Jack:

    Absolutely not, they have "no dog in this fight". It needs to be resolved by and between the Pentagon, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of Defense and the Commander in Chief. If that groupp of minds cannot come up with a responsible, fair and well thought out solution, then we have far bigger problems to deal with than "Don't ask, don't tell. Why must we stick the Supreme Court with such non-Constitutional issues? Let the aforementioned make a damn decision!

    Gary,
    Lexington,KY

    June 9, 2009 at 5:28 pm |
  223. Drake from Shongaloo,La

    No they should. The Supreme Court doesn't realize that these people are people and that they should be treated the same. It doesn't matter which gender they prefer, if they are willing to serve the country, they should be able to answer questions about their homosexuality and tell anyone they would like to. It's there right, even if there in the Military.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
  224. Tom C. Garcia

    Don't let these theological BOZOS get their homophobic opinions into this issue! The decision rightly belongs with the presidential candidate who promised to remove this idiocy when, I believe, he used the word "leadership" to emphasize his resolve. That man is, now, president! Just do it!

    June 9, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
  225. Missy

    No. This is a matter for our elected officials, not the courts (judges should never legislate from the bench). Those we elect to make and execute laws need to find the motivation to repeal this thing. Relegating it to the courts is wimpy – just another way of passing the buck.

    Missy, in Phoenix

    June 9, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
  226. Lolita from Florida

    Gay people should be allowed to serve openly in the military. It is appalling to hear so many Gay generals with years of experience and giving their life to keeping our country safe and fighting on the front lines being expelled from the military. The supreme court should overturn that rule and allow gay people equal rights to military benefits. As for marriage, The dictionary definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman. I agree that gay people should have equal rights as married couples but gay people should use a different terminolgy to define their union which should be equivalent to marriage.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
  227. Robert

    And just for the people who want to put it to a public vote. The general public is not in the military, so why should we let someone who is not serving make these choices for those who do serve.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
  228. EugeneWiese Midlothian,Va.

    When we eliminate poverty in this country,the states can eliminate welfare benefits. Don't hold your breath. We still have too many conservatives who were educated in Republicanism 101,"So what ". You have 2 cows and your neihbor has none,"So what". Gene

    June 9, 2009 at 5:31 pm |
  229. Roger, from Georgia

    If the Surpreme Court rules, congress can always duck the issue and just complain about legislating from the bench. Congress needs to address this. If conservatives now support openly gays in the military, perhaps the Republicans should take the lead in congress to show that they can be inclusive. I personally think the reason many conservatives now support gays in the military is because when they supported Bush's invasion of Iraq, their kids were not military age. Now they see their sons and daughters considering military service and they are not so supportive of the war. Anyone except my kid.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:33 pm |
  230. Gregory Agrafiotis

    In Nazi Germany, Jewish military veterans would say to their "fellow citizens", "You can't discriminate against me! Look at my medals! I served the Fatherland in the Great War!" The Germans just laughed! In the United States of America, gay veterans say to their "fellow citizens", "You can't discriminate against me! Look at my medals! I served the Homeland in the War on Terror! The Americans just laugh!

    June 9, 2009 at 5:34 pm |
  231. Allen

    I was in the military for 21 years; some of our best qualified troops were kicked out early in my career because they were gay. I believed then, and I still do today, that the policy is an absolute waste. We need the best people to defend our nation regardless of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation. We have the greatest nation on earth, our country should come first, not someone‘s particular view of “morality.” Petty squabbles over the gay – straight issues need to end. We are one country, one people. For 21 years, this was the idea for which I was willing to put my life on the line. We are the champions of freedom and equality, why don’t we just practice what we preach?

    June 9, 2009 at 5:38 pm |
  232. Mike – Denver, CO

    Jack, you cite a Gallup poll presumably of the general public, but why is there no poll of just military personnel. I know it is a radical concept, but why aren't service people asked? I think we should respect the majority vote of the people that have actually volunteered to give their life for this country.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:38 pm |
  233. Neatha from Kansas City

    Someone should decide, enough is enough. Gays have served with honor since the begining of war. So if you are hetrosexual it is okay to die in war, but if you are homosexual, no we don't want your life and service. And by all means, if you speak arabic and you are gay, we really don't need you. Give me a break. Civil Rights are supposed to apply to everyone. I believe the statement is "All Men are Created Equal". Or at least I heard that some smart old guy wrote that once.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:39 pm |
  234. Bertha in SC

    No to the Supreme Court deciding. I don't get it. We have huge hulking gay professional sports players. Nobody is saying they shouldn't play because they're gay. I don't see the difference. I must be missing something about all this.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:40 pm |
  235. Sam

    The supreme court and the pope are the same thing. Old and outdated people making decisions based on their personal feelings. No better than a jury deciding a killers fate. Why is there no common sense in the world anymore?

    June 9, 2009 at 5:44 pm |
  236. Jenna

    It seems that the generals and higher ups in the military are oblivious to the cultural change inthis country especially among the young.We have grown up with gays in our classes,in our places of work and have watched TV shows featuring gay characters and openly gay actors. I spent some time on an airforce base I South Korea,and no one was in the closet. Military personnel who didn't like homosexuality didn't seem to let it effect their work or their professional interactions with their gay peers.Our country's elders,including the honorable justices of the Supreme Court,should not make decisions on this issue based on what they think the majority of the military population will accept.They need to have their finger on the true pulse of the military as it is today and not what it was 20 or even 10 years ago.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:46 pm |
  237. John From: Illinois

    This issue has been around to long and needs to be put to rest for good ! Let the top dogs deside its their job " right " .

    June 9, 2009 at 5:47 pm |
  238. Mari, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Yes, it should. The "don't ask, don't tell" law is one of the silliest ever! Are we a Free country or not?

    June 9, 2009 at 5:47 pm |
  239. Lance Schumacher

    No, this is a military issue, kind of like the physical readiness requirements, established by the military, affecting only the military. I believe the JCS and the Commander-in Chief should make and enforce the policy. If the Courts get involved, pretty soon we won't have any standards including phyiscal requirements, after all if an obese or physically impaired person wants to serve, the military should make accomodations, right? Ridiculous you say? Go back over the court/ACLU decisions. Don't ask, don't tell works, why mess with it?
    Lance, Ridgecrest, Ca

    June 9, 2009 at 5:48 pm |
  240. Trevman

    Pres. Obama should repeal DADT. The fact that the most recent polls would indicate that most Americans are getting over their gay and lesbian phobias is all the more reason to repeal this policy. Should it matter if the GI next to you in that foxhole is gay? Absolutely not. As long as he knows what he's doing and can take care of himself then it should be all good. Apparently for some folks in the military, Cold War and antiquated thinking/mentalities just don't seem to be able to desert their calcified brains.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:49 pm |
  241. Steve

    Gay and Lesbians are already serving. I dont think their going to start wearing pink clothes...Drop the policy. We are losing too many qualified people in to many fields at a heavy cost to the taxpayer. If the supreme court has to decide it, so be it.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:51 pm |
  242. Soldier with morals

    Allowing openly gay soldiers to serve will be a HUGE mistake. That is a logistical nightmare with living arrangements among other issues. For example, the majority of straight male Soldiers will not want to be in the same shower or sleeping quarters with their gay counterparts. If you allow this, you may as well let straight males shower openly with straight females since both straight females and gay males desire to look at other males or vice versa. How would you solve that particular issue? Have a shower for straight males, one for gay males, one for gay females, and one for straight females? Or simply have one wide-open shower for everyone to look at each other? This will simply never work. What about sleeping quarters? Does this mean then that straight males can sleep with straight females? There is a reason they are separated. Men and women attracted to each other. This just invites BIG problems. I have no problem with gay members serving as long as they keep it “unknown” but I, along with the majority of other servicemembers, would feel very uncomfortable knowing they are showering or sleeping in the same place as openly gay members. That is just the start of many other potential problems with this issue.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:52 pm |
  243. ken fairbanks

    Jack!!!The reality is this,sex should never enter into a condition of employment be it gay,lesbian,or straight,in other words your sex life is your own and should be of no decision in the enlisting or employment of personel,nor should the person who is hired reveal his or her sex orientation,any person doing so for intimidation purposes can and should be dismissed under a new law called(sexoutlaw)Meaning!!,,SEX,(your orientation,straight,gay,lesbian) OUT,meaning sex cannot be entered in the questioner for employment,or enlistment in the military,male or female may be ask relating to you,but it stops there,and last is LAW,,meaning just that it is now the law,so the whole thing sounds out!!!!((SEXOUTLAW))

    June 9, 2009 at 5:52 pm |
  244. Stephen Fox

    Yes, the Supreme Court SHOULD rule on this. The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy is repugnant to the Constitution's equal protection principles. The policy institutionalizes discrimination and prejudice–and of all places, the military, which is charged with defending the Constitution.

    It favors one group of people...over another; and relegates (based on sexual orientation or preference) those in the minority to an even lesser state.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:54 pm |
  245. Peter, KC

    Why did we have don't ask don't tell in the first place?

    June 9, 2009 at 5:57 pm |
  246. Karen California

    Don't ask, don't tell. What is so hard about that. Just do your job and nobody cares who you want to be with. Nobody needs to go around announcing their sexual preference to anyone, so don't.

    June 9, 2009 at 5:58 pm |
  247. Jim Kahn from Portland, Oregon

    Regarding this whole issue of Don’t Ask-Don’t Tell: Hmmm…would this apply to the priests and ministers too?

    June 9, 2009 at 5:59 pm |
  248. Dan from Alliance, OH

    Not really but we know the military and congress won't do anything so why not.

    June 9, 2009 at 6:07 pm |