Pictured here is one of multiple cover sheets for intelligence briefings prepared for Defense Sec. Rumsfeld in the early days of the Iraq war. The sheets featured biblical quotes and battle images. (COURTESY: GQ MAGAZINE)
FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
It's been almost four months since former President Bush left office, and many would like to leave his administration in the past. But that may not be possible since there's a constant dripping of information about what really went on during those eight years.
The latest comes by way of GQ Magazine, which has released a series of cover sheets for intelligence reports written for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and other top Pentagon brass during the early days of the Iraq war.
They featured "triumphant, color images" like soldiers praying or in action or a tank at sunset along with Biblical passages. For example: "Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand."
Besides the obvious question of appropriateness, what if these covers had leaked out at the time? The Muslim world could have interpreted the war as a religiously-driven battle against Islam. You think they were upset about Abu Ghraib?
But the general who thought up the covers told anyone that complained about them that his seniors, including Rumsfeld and President Bush, appreciated them. In fact, GQ says Rumsfeld hand-delivered many of these reports to President Bush.
The magazine suggests the mixing of Crusades-like messages with war imagery might not have been Rumsfeld's style - but he likely saw it as a way to connect with the deeply religious President Bush.
This is just another in a growing list of questions, and just like torture and the reasons for invading Iraq, they don't seem to be going away.
Here’s my question to you: Is a complete investigation of the Bush administration and the Iraq war becoming inevitable?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Larry from Cincinnati, Ohio writes:
First, the war in Iraq was justified by Hussein's development of WMD, which were never found. Now it is coming to light that prisoners were tortured to find a link between Iraq and al Qaeda, after Iraq was invaded. You'd better believe that war needs to be investigated. And Obama needs to get off the kick that "It's all in the past." War crimes are crimes and they have no statute of limitations.
Judy from Rochelle, Illinois writes:
What will an investigation achieve other than deflecting attention from other issues such as health care and the economy?
The entire world is aware that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld should be incarcerated. That will never happen, therefore an investigation is meaningless.
Kari from Wisconsin writes:
Jack, Since the religious right believed that Bush had a mission in the Middle East, it doesn't surprise me that we are finding such a trail but it does sicken me. Maybe the only way around it is through it.
Moving forward is certainly a good thing, but how can you ever move forward without accountability? If we don't hold the previous administration accountable for what they did or did not do, then we will never restore trust in the government. I used the word "trust" here instead of "faith" because faith is unquestioning belief and that is one thing we should never have when it comes to the government.
There will be an investigation, whether it is historians or congressional investigators. Sending American troops into harm's way based on manufactured evidence and cherry-picked intelligence is in fact a war crime. Bush and Cheney will never be tried for this, but the facts will speak for themselves forever.
Absolutely, and the sooner the better. Cheney will continue spouting his "torture kept us safe" rhetoric until, inevitably, there is another attack on US soil. Then he will blame the current administration, instead of the millions of Muslims enraged by his brutal policies.
Tear the lid off the Bush can of worms and expose who was really calling the shots.
There is no other way for us to put the last 8 years behind us. We have to investigate what was hidden.
John in Columbus Ohio
I believe so. Not to get anyone in trouble, but so we can learn from our mistakes...and yes...mistakes were made.
You know what they always say Jack, "It all comes out in the wash."
In other words, eventually the truth will come out and so do the lies....
This Bible verse is taken out of context when used for this subject. It is not about justifying the War in Iraq, if it was then victory would have been accomplished. God does not equip you for failure if you apply the passage the way the author of this photo/story uses it.
Shame on him for using it.
"Onward Christian Crusaders. Deus volt. God has willed it."
As it was narrated in this article, Donald Rumsfeld didn't care about using Bible verses, but he saw that he could get support and make the President Bullish about the military if he framed it in such a manner as to illicit imagery of the Crusades and Christian militantcy.
The only people that are going to get bullish about this and think that the US is there for a second Crusade are the Christians, but they do not see how they are being used by the Military and politicians who have other agendas.
Those agendas include Israel and Zionism.
Bush lied to congress and his team manufactured evidence. With the way they violated their oath of office with torture I see that they have little ability to claim executive privilege for the illegal and immoral acts of the Bush administration. You have executive privilege until you violate your oath and Bush and his administration definitely violated it.
I had thought it was best to let sleeping dogs also, but I feel it has now become a necessity to have an investigation. When you look at the bigger picture something is seriously wrong with this country .....imagine a co pilot on a plane that crashed was paid just over 8 dollars an hour. That is of course if the worked the 2080 hours a year. ..........Where did it all go wrong
President Bush was a great President he kept this country safe for eight years since 911. Media get a life and start reporting the present not the past. The President now is Barrack Obama not George Bush.
No, I do not believe so. For what real pupose, and to what real end, other than only be for political purposes? What would we be investigating? And who would do the investigating? A witch-hunt benefits no one at this point.
No. I wouldnt say that. In time the people who elected President Obama on his word will win out which means the promise of moving forward will come to pass and all the naysayers who want investigations and punishment will be shouted down. We have too many more important issues at hand to worry about this.
Doubt it, Jack. Those who profit from war are the same who control the media and Congress. No investigation will take place. In fact, this time next year, we'll probably we fighting Iran as well. We are totally doomed.
The answer is YES! It's inevitable, it's needed, and it's about time!
what about an immediate investigation of Obama. He is fine with releasing "select" information about the Bush Admin but nothing about what he is doing. We should have a right to everything from Bush to Obama, including who was on Air Force One during the tour of NYC, how many people have been killed in Pakistan by US drones, etc. Everything should be made public since he wants it that way. It's WE (no I in we) the people, let's no forget.
If you don't learn from past mistakes you're doomed to repeat them.
I have no fondness for the Bush (44) administration. I predicted before the war that it would become the fiasco that it eventually did. But in spite of all that, I really hope we can avoid any more recriminations about the war and how it was justified. The facts have long since spoken for themselves. There was no connection to al Quaeda, and there were no WMD's. What can any investigation tell us now? All it can do is further splinter the American people apart.
Yes, a complete and full investigation needs to be done. The people have a right to know. It has already been determined that the "weapons of mass destruction" rationale for going to war turned out to be something less than the truth. What other falsehoods were committed in order to push the war agenda and who was involved? Just how much did the Bush administration deceive us?
The passage mentioned in the photo uses the military terminology metaphorically. The actual "armor" being mentioned? Love, righteousness, truth. Yet the government uses this passage as an encouragement for actual military warfare. Talk about irony.
Let's hope it is inevitable no matter what the result of the foo faw about what Nancy Pelosi knew and when she knew it (or not). The underlying issue is the United States of America tortured people that they couldn't even be sure if they were enemy combatants after lying and covering up to get us into this "Holy War" that has made us far more unsafe from terrorism.
War crimes happened... Someone is responsible... The USA makes everyone else accountable for their actions... The USA should be accountable for its own actions... Yes we need to investigate the past!
Yes. In order to insure justice is served, lets hand them over to the Haque.
Church and State must be separate. Bush is out of office. Enough said.
There are too many questions that leap over all political boundaries.. I think the true modern standing of the usa will be judged on whether we investigate the bush 43 administration or not. We must investigate or lag embarrassingly behind the world as those in the administrated are indicted in other courts..
I hope so. criminals can not remain free, and without an investigation they most certainly will.
Absolutely Jack. The war criminals Bush, Cheney Rumsfeld and others all need to pay for what they did. They left our country in shambles and ruined many families and many lives.
It is a disgrace that must be dealth with.
Bob G. Paramus, NJ
YES! Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld should all be tried for war crimes and convicted if found guilty. To do less would be to further question our gov't's credibility and integrity.
I don't see how history can avoid a complete review of this period of American history. Whether that be a politically motivated "investigation" or a thorough review like we've seen in the explosion of Abraham Lincoln books (most of which are great BTW) over the past 5 years. It's only a matter of time before the truth comes out – of course that truth is always open to interpretation.
And it is a good thing. Why else did you think VP Cheney was suddenly so visible? He's scared to death that an investigation will happen because just his saying that waterboarding was legal didn't actually make it legal.
We put people to death after WWII for waterboarding prisoners, remember? And saying they were "just following orders" was not considered a sufficient excuse.
This issue may be taking attention away from other important ones such as the economy. But the administration should investigate Rumsfeld and Cheney's role in Iraq war but not so much of Mr. Bush. he has been so quiet and a bit gracious about not criticizing president Obama. Cheney ,on the other hand , seems ever ready to pick up fight with the administration and is a constant annoyance.
Of course there will be an investigation, but nothing will come of it....as usual.
Let's hope so. The mixing of religious imagery with military propaganda to incite a right wing religious commander-in-chief toward war should not only be investigated but should cause fear and shock in any free thinking democratic citizen of this country.
YES. If we do not investigate the errors of the past, we will be doomed to repeat them. And we can not bare the expense or the cost in Human Life again just to give in to the whim of a President.
Oh my Jack, give it a break please. This Bush Derangement Syndrome is scary indeed. The President was religious so what, so are most. There is nothing to be afraid of about religion our country is founded from its core principles. What is more scary is a President that is not religious at all or anti-religious, zealots like you are always trying to paint the religous as extremists get over yourself. Now to the broader point... YES we need a full airing of everything. Let the debate begin and lets see how America was kept safe because if you think about it Obama has dismantled many of the things that in many peoples opinions have kept America safe post 911 so if that is true what possibly can Obama say to the American people after the next 911 type attack or is Obama saying that he is guranteeing against such an attack. Most certainly he will be unable to say that the government did everything possible to stop the attack because he has taken many things off the table, there may be nothing wrong with taking those things off the table but he did it publicly and for political reasons those very things will haunt him if the danger returns.
Congress is unable to get its act together. So who is going to investigate the prior administration. You can start by identifying the source of the 500 metric tons of yellowcake shipped from Iraq to Canada.
Absolutely there needs to be a full investigation. Millions of people suspected ulterior motives in Bush's dogged run up to war–whether there were or not must be understood. Further, this country cannot sweep this under the rug–regardless of how painful the outcome might be, we are Americans and we deserve to know the truth. In fact, every American should be standing up and demanding it.
But of course, they should have been investigated long ago, but it is too hard for situations such as this. No one wanted to stick their neck out. Hundreds of thousands of innocent people died because of the last administration, along with our 3,000+ innocent boys and girls in our military. Our country should be ashamed to have let this go on. We certainly didn't have any trouble investigating Pres. Clinton at ad nauseum for having had almost sex. Bush and his Stand-in Papa Cheney turned this country upside down and its going to take years to clean up the mess. Investigate all who were involved.
I don't think the Crusade implication holds water since Iraq was a secular country under Saddam Hussein.
I don't think we'd need an investigation to prove Bush isn't too bright, nor that he was in tune with many of the complexities at work during the war, nor that he's a Christian. Certainly whether we'd like to acknowledge it or not, Muslim extremists DO consider this a religious war against American infidels. None of this excuses Cheney, the CIA or our lawyers for crafting memos to allow us to torture prisoners of war. Let the investigation begin.
Look at it this way; strip away the excuses, the twisted reasoning from both sides and distill it into a simple black and white question. Was the war illegal? I will leave it up to the courts to answer that. But, once its answered it becomes a matter of necessity to pursue the course of action that is most appropriate.
My opinion? From what I have read and seen I do believe the war was illegal. Therefore I think the people involved have to be prosecuted if we want to have any semblance of following our own laws. Simple and clean.
Yes, in my judgement it is inevitable. This issue will not go away by our collective denial. As ugly as it may prove to be, we – the citizenry of this country – need to see what was done, how it was done, and why it was done. Without that knowledge, how are we to prevent another administration from sullying our reputation as protectors of freedom and the rule of law. We cannot let fear force our leaders to embrace activities that are so anathema to our heritage. This is not a political stance. We have confronted evil deeds in the past; Watergate, Nuremburg are recent examples.
Yes it is, particularly after the "suicide" in Libya of the Al Qaeda member who purportedly claimed a link with Saddam Hussein.
Yorktown Heights, NY
I sure hope so, Jack. It was an illegal war which distracted us from real threats. It is still very possible to break the law but think that you are doing the right thing.
Yes, it is becoming inevitable and I hope it comes to pass. These jerks need to be investigated, indicted, prosecuted, and if found guilty, spend the rest of their lives locked up.
Yes, Jack it is time that the truth was spoken for once from the Bush Administration. But for what? We would spend billons of tax payer dollars on an investigation and the the guilty would not pay for their crimes. It is the Washington way. I would love to say, let's move on and learn from our past mistakes, but then again, Washington has never learned a thing from it's mistakes.
Why investigate something that is already common knowledge: that the war was not inevitable. As more information is given the public, it reinforces that position. Those who support the ex-president will always support him no matter what is revealed, ie the weapons of mass distruction that never existed.
Why waste valuable time and money on something that will not produce any discernible change in American policy. No matter which party is in power, it will do whatever it thinks is right despite what the general public wants or thinks is necessary.
Pessimistic, yes. What did Churchill say–this is why they are called politicians and not statesman.
Is a complete investigation of the Bush administration and the Iraq war becoming inevitable?
Whether the current administration (Nancy Pelosi, for example?)wants it or not, there's a lot of pressure there to investigate. Speaking of bible quotations, Matthew 23-27 pretty much describes how I envisioned the Bush administration and what an investigation will find: "Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, –hypocrites, for ye are like unto whited sepulchres which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones and of all uncleanness."
It NEEDS to be inevitable. Not for the sake of getting retribution against any person or party, but to prevent all people and all parties from repeating the past. We need to set a precedent that this is not tolerable for ANYONE. My fear is that, seeing the current GOP, they will repeat their past behavior in a heartbeat given the chance. We need to bring this to an end once and for all. If not, in 4 or 8 years, or even as we speak, the past evils could be playing out again. Next time they can say there is even precedent for their actions...
It is clear from this an the rest of the information coming out that President Bush had some very specific beliefs about what he was doing. These beliefs did not represent the views of the American people in totality and for this reason is was strongly inappropriate as well as possibly illegal. Although I am a Christian, I believe that we are all God's children and that Christ's most specific commandment to us was to Love One Another and seek peace. These actions/rhetoric seem to fly completely in the face of the true meaning of Christianity.
I think it should be done, but it should be done in private, by a non-partisan group. Rather than leaking a little information ever week about it just do the whole thing and in a year or two realease it all at once.
It's necessary, but it won't happen. If the current administration had fewer wars, crises, and disasters on its hands - and more of our money to spend on such an investigation - then we might get closer to finding out what the people elected to represent us for eight years were actually doing.
The question is, is this nation great enough to look squarely at what and how this happened ( other, we would think lesser, nations have displayed the courage to institute self examination when required ) and to take those steps necessary to prevent a repeat performance? If not the United States cannot grow and will be forever diminished.
The Bush administration and its results gives the greatest argument for separation of church and state and wisdom of this countries founders.
He was Ayatollah Bush before he was president Bush.
THANKS GOD FOR TERM LIMITATION.
If Cheney and Rice would have admitted they made a mistake and just gone away we might have been able to forgive them. Instead they run around, still trying to justify the indefensible invasion and occupation of Iraq. They are asking for it as far as I'm concerned.
Tim in Des Moines
Are those images surprising news to you??? Why would they torture someone over and over and over when truth~serum drugs have existed for years?? But the only thing that is important right now, is to move away from all that and move on. Endless investigation, where each word everyone says or ever said becomes big news instead of our real problems, is not helpful. I am just now realizing how lucky we all are that Nixon got pardoned.
Yes, Jack, it is inevitable. While I understand Pres. Obama's wanting to look forward, not back, this is about something much, much bigger. The bruised psyche of America. It is like when someone cheats. The cheated upon MUST know the truth. They must connect the dots. They must see how, why, what and when in order to move forward, in order to become whole again. I urge Pres. Obama to investigate and seek the truth for the good of the country.
No. Why should we do that. Our elected officials in Washington need to get this economy going, not reflect on the past. Never re-elect anyone.
Two Rivers, WI
Personally, I believe there should be a complete investigation of every administration. These reports can be handled discreetly, and release piecemeal as national security issues become lessened over time. This idea that people in power should be able to keep their secrets indefinitely is exactly what causes abuses of power. Whether the Bush administration abused power or not has nothing to do with the big picture. It is whether any current or future administration will, and the lessons of the past will help us recognize and avoid transgressions in the future.
Yes. If any other country had done this we would be the first ones screaming "War Crimes". We need to hold our own government to the same high standards. I voted for him the first time, served in both Iraq wars, and this was clearly war crimes under the Geneva Convention and internationally accepted laws of war.
You not only have proof that a leader of a nation viewed a military struggle as a type of religious crusade, spurred on by his top advisors who should have known better. You also have proof that there was a coordinated effort to use torture for extracting a justification to invade another country.
Even if you want to give Bush and his advisors the extreme benefit of the doubt and say these were extraordinary circumstances to prevent another terrorist attack, our leaders acted like they were a part of the dark ages. I don't see how we can learn from these mistakes until we know the extent of the mistakes that were made.
It is inevitable! One can see the tainting process underway as the information comes forth as to how the George W. Bush administration operated the eight years in the White House. Now you have the American Bar Association coming out to attempt to distance itself from the shenanigans of the White House and its association with the legal counsel of those attributing poor to illegal advice to the president's actions. Torture is illegal despite what Cheney is saying as well as pro-Republican advocates. The tainting process will affect others by either immediate or local involvement to matters impacting these and disavowals will come forth from this process. The Ninth Circuit Court judge will probably have to be impeached as there appears no way around the matter of abridged law! It is that simple!
Maybe its something we can leave for year 2+ of Obama's time in office. He has other, more pressing things to think about/spend tax payers money on.
Yes. Elwood, Illinois
Jack: It probably is inevitable, however, right now there are issues that require pro-active measures. We need to unwind Iraq and Afghanastan; we need to push a health plan through; we need to make sure the banking system is working again. We also need to look in the mirror and make sure we never, never again have such an abusive government as we did for 8 years under Bush/Cheney. It's not the first priority – but we do need to get to it.
I don't know that it's inevitable, but some honest answers are needed, and needless to say Cheney won't supply them I know that Obama would just as soon leave the past behind, but I think there's too much evident of chicanery so I hope there is an investigation. The Republicans want to investigate what Pelosi knew, but that's a pretty minor point. It's what Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld did that really matters.
While at first this seems shocking and might be misconstrued as an example of how close we came to blowing it all, I believe this revelation highlights what is successful about this country. The PEOPLE voted George Bush into power. The PEOPLE chose a man who operated from a position of religious zeal. Fortunately, the PEOPLE realized their folly and have moved in a different direction with Obama. It is reassuring to know that despite conspiracy theorists blabbering...the Bush administration never had enough power to destroy our democracy. The pendulum swings...
This is exactly why the Founding Fathers included the separation of church and state in the Constitution: to prevent a religious zealot such as Bush from using religion as an excuse to wage war against those he may deem as infidels. These images indicate a crusader mentality that is scary beyond belief and more of this will come out in a comprehensive investigation. Let this be a lesson: when a president and his military chiefs becomes believers in end-of-days scenarios, they just might make it so. But the informed public has known about this connection for years. Why is only now that CNN is telling the story?
I don't think we should be digging graves here. I remember 9/11 and with that I remember how I felt at that time. We were attacked by religious fanatics and their war was in the name of Islam. Though I agree that we should not have attacked Iraq and should not have sent these kind of memo's out, we should not second guess previous administrations sincerety in keeping us safe. They might have chosen some wrong roads to get there and might have made the situation even worse, but investigating and punishing them is something that I am not in favor of.
We should look forward...
Yes Yes If we don't we will have the same thing happen again!
Just like the savings and loan scam in the first Bush administration, it was only 180 billion dollars and everybody got a free ride. Looks like everyone wanted another free ride under "W"
There was once a man named Elmer Gantry. He eventually found his way into the upper tiers of our government. Whose at fault?
I cannot even begin to imagine what REALLY went on at the whitehouse these last eight years!!I stand confident that the Bush administration should and WILL be fully investigated.Then and only then will be be told the real story.I believe that criminal charges be placed against both Bush and Cheney.And whoever else is deemed guilty.
Inevitable? Probably. Effective at its purpose? Highly doubful.
I'm guessing it will be politics as usual.
Millions will be spent, lawyers will make a pocket full of coin, the truth will never see the light of day, and conspiracy nuts will flourish.
Our Govt has an extreemly poor record when it comes to policing itself, otherwise I seriously doubt we'd be in this mess to begin with and honestly, way too much money is at stake.
Yes, but not because of Rummy's in-house propaganda. Rather because laws were broken and if we are a nation of law, all those who break them must be accountable, including the POTUS, VPOTUS, CIA... I am still amazed at how many of my fellow Americans think it was justified to torture 'given the circumstances after 9/11', even though they are clearly accepting that some Americans are therefore above the law. This is not the American ideal that my forefathers fought and died for.
Iraq is now a Trillion dollar war. Given all the uproar about government spending of late, esp. from the GOP side, the sponsors of the war, an investigation of the Bush Adminstration's public statements about the war, and it's costs is practically a mandate. Given our government's uproar over Monica Lewinsky, certainly the Iraq War deserves at *least* as much attention. The American People deserve no less.
we never did in any others wars. So why should we in this one?
Unfortunately, it's not inevitable. Most Americans are not willing to face the truth: that our previous President and Vice-President are war criminals.
I hope that a complete investigation does happen. In order for us to grow and heal both at home and abroad, we need to come clean. We can't sweep this under the rug and pretend like it didn't happen—we were duped into a war we shouldn't have started and the people who put our American sons and daughters at risk while spending billions of our tax dollars should be held accountable.
This type of inquiry will not weaken our country. It will only strengthen it by proving that we make mistakes, but we own up to them. It will prove that we value justice and fairness for all instead of the chosen few.
What seems inevitable is the clash between American's based on competing ideals. It's as if every American is prepared to die for what they believe in. In my opinion, this phenomenon appears to expose a populace that is more desperate then patriotic, which makes sense in times of economic disaster. Social Darwinism has created a people more interested in securing one's own stability, backed by a vicious campaign of draconian punishment for those who move against that created security. This must change! How? One great way of showing that we as a nation are more interested in moving forward with unity is to drop the talk of an investigation of former administration actions concerning enhanced interrogations (i.e, coming to the conclusion that extenuating circumstances prompted many breeches of protocal). President Obama can set this tone by putting his foot down on all fronts by issuing formal pardons to all involved; a move that would be in the best interest for the health of the country. We have more then enough to do then to waste valuable time in an era of economic insecurity.
Bernard Wesley Clark Jr.
Initially, I really thought it was best for the country to simply move on.
But now I don't know. Isn'y this another violation of the Constitution – the sepration of church and state again mixed together by the one institution that is required by law to keep them apart. These men who ran the country were indeed dangerous men, mixing religious beliefs with warfare. As I recall wern't the Christians the non-violent ones – although I guess it depends on what Testament you believe. When we people learn that religion and politics don't ever mix. What other issues haven't even come out yet? Invetigate them and if they are innocent we can all collectively apologize. But if they are guilty as charged, give them some real jail time so they can ponder their god.
As a country we don't want to repeat the mistake of pardoning a President like we did with Nixon. The Bush administration was a criminal enterprise on an extraordinary magnitude. Since Nixon politicians have seen themselves as above the law of the land. No one is more deserving of jail time than Bush, Cheney , Rumsfeld and Rice. Now that they can't rig the judicial system now is the time to prosecute them.
I don't know if it's inevitable, but it's certainly necessary. Bush and Co. need to be held accountable for eight years of criminal behavior and deception of the American people.
A complete investigation into the Bush administrations illegal, inapproriate, unethical, and unconstitional activities is inevitable, only if we wish to repair the damage done to our democracy and restore the United States of America to a respectable leadership position in world affairs. Otherwise, our country will only degenerate to a dysfunctional & tyrannical failed state. No one is above the law or the laws mean nothing. Not investigating the Bush administration will only sew the seeds of the second American revolution. Live free or Die.
yes, as it should be. They all need to stand trial as war criminals and share saddam's fate.
Why has it taken so long to get to this point, when we've know for years about the criminal actions of the Busk administration? Why should the rank and file service members be subject to prosecution and imprisonment when those who issued the orders are left to go free? Of course an investigation is needed, if only to prevent such abuses of power in the future. To not investigate, is to condone their actions!
Jack, If we don't conduct a full-on investigation, future generations will have to. The goings on under the worst-ever POTUS should be examined to avoid any possibility of a repeat.
In order to be fair to entire world – the world should know the truth why the war was actually started & so many innocent soldiers and civilians are killed in the name of What????
If the Bush administration had been honest from the beginning we would take their word for it. Distortion, lies, and misrepresentation were how we got into this trillion dollar mess in the Middle East. Money we could have used to improve Americans health, wealth, and safety from ordinary daily threats such as crime, lack of health insurance, and job security is now short.
We need an investigation to tell future Presidents that they will be held accountable eventually.
It is probably inevitable considering the Bush Admin has given the country so much to choose from. Think of what they did to Clinton for his personal crimes that should have never been anyone's business. The Bush Admin has left us some REAL crimes to investigate.
No, it is not inevitable or justified, Jack. By the way, did Nancy Pelosi know then about the faulty intelligence leading our troops in Iraq in the first place?
I sure hope so Jack. I know that, personally, I want to see it; -and I know many others that would like to see it as well.
There are just way too many questions regarding a host of issues from the Bush years, whats most important is that we learn how and why some of the actions took place and make sure that,if laws were broken, those guilty are charged and we make sure that they cant happen again. I think WE(the US) needs to pursue this, if we dont other countries will and that would be a major blow to American credibility, and to my mind its the RIGHT thing to do, whether you are a Republican or A Democrat WE are all Americans and need to stand up for our principles.
Only in your wildest, fondest dreams, Jack.
I wish everyone would quit being so scared of Christianity. This country was founded on Christian principles. President Bush, who I know you detest, was a Christian man and led this country as best he could. I'm so tired of everyone blaming him for everything. He was a good President – and he understood things a lot better than you. He was a good Christian and a good President. He told you exactly where he stood before you voted for him – twice! So leave him alone. He has retreated to Texas for a quiet existence away from this daily media-bashing and hatred. I feel our country at least owes him respect. I wish him the best.
"At the length truth will out."
It may not be in the next few years, but I believe we will see a full recounting of the darker deeds of the last administration at some point in our lifetimes. We live in a digital age where nothing ever really gets erased. If we are still prosecuting nazi war criminals for crimes they committed 50 years ago, can anyone who broke the law during the Bush Presidency really expect a 'statute of limitations' for themselves?
Yes, please. If I broke the law could I go free, too?
This investigation should have started 4 months ago!!!
Los Angeles CA
So after the Obama administration leaves office, will we call for truth commissions for his parts in funding some groups that may have had "Pay to Play" connections? And then that administration will be held for truth commissions for everything they do? Everyone talks about hope and change and moving forward, yet we keep looking backward as if it's going to get us anywhere? Sure there was some shady goings on, but how long are we going to keep bring all this up to keep public opinion on the negative?
Investigation and convictions are inevitable, but keep in mind the precident you're setting. These things always come full circle.
Dear Jack, as much as I'd like to see the law upheld in the context of these allegations, the US is faced by bigger problems right now on the domestic (read economy, unemployment, medicare, social security, education & climate change) front. The President's strategy (not to dwell on the past) is a practical one in this matter. It's a distraction at this point & I hope the White House stands up strongly and resists the pressure to institute any further inquiries.
I believe it's inevitable at this point. I heard that senators and lawyers were discussing actually bringing him into a federal court months ago. It seems that anger has not subsided at all, and I comepletely agree with it. Too many people have died for us not to know the truth. But I hate how both sides have made it partisan when it isn't a partisan issue: it is simply a matter of justice.
I don't know if it is becoming inevitable but it certainly would be well deserved! The g. bush administration has gotten this country in such a mess that it will take decades to recover. The guy should have been sent to prison for war crimes against humanity! with his war in Iraq.
It has become increasingly apparent that the extent and serious degree of abuses carried out by the super-secret Bush administration is going to require a complete and impartial airing out. I think a "truth commission" with broad subpeona powers is going to be needed – even if there are no further criminal actions. What happened over the last eight years can never be allowed to happen again in our republic. Frankly, it would benefit both the Republicans and the Democrats to clear the air so we can all move on – albiet a lot more carefully.
Unfortunately there are far too many things to investigate about the conduct of the Bush Administration: redefining the meaning of torture so we can engage in it, bypassing the FISA law, twisting intelligence to sell the war, finding a place and a rationale for putting detainees beyond the reach of U.S. due process law, politicizing the Justice department, firing U.S Attorneys without just cause, for political reasons, and then lying about it, . . . and this list could go on.
What you write about is disturbing for several reasons, but does not make the top of my list of things to be investigated. At the top of my list are: 1) Authorizing torture, and 2) politicizing the Justice department.
I think a very thorough and complete investigation of the Bush administration and the Iraq was is needed very badly. I think the Bush presidency is the closest we have ever come to a dictatorship. He didn't even win either election yet he became president and ran this country into the dirt. Now that he is out of office people are starting to realize his ignorance and unethical ways of running the greatest country in the world. I believe he is war criminal.
Yes, I would like nothing better than to see all of Bush Admn. investigated and if found guilty go to jail. All the republicans can talk about is Nancy Pelosi. She's not the one who bent the law to allow torture.....I say go after all of the masterminds behind this. We do not need another crazy right wing religious nut in office and if something is done about the "Bushies", maybe the US will never have another one.
Yes, Bush and Cheney need to be held accountable for the dead as well as the cost of a war that we have not, nor ever, will truly "win". Sadly, the American people tend to be so shallow that they just want to move on..and forget........Sad, very, very sad!
If the USA is a nation of laws, then yes, it is inevitable. If we wish to redeem even a modicum of our once-proud reputation as a just and impartial nation among nations, then yes, it is inevitable.
How can we watch Chile put Pinochet on trial without even investigating our own? The memory of Nuremberg may not be fresh in our memories, but our European allies and associates are not so quick to forget the weakness of the Nazis' defense.
If we do not bring our own war criminals to justice, be sure that we will be held to account by the global community.
In an era of Asia rising, we need all the credibility we can get.
I sure hope so. It is long overdue. They should all be held accountable for their disgraceful policies and actions. The Bush administration will be known as the second lowest point in American history, right behind the civil war.
When information like this surfaces, the saddest thing is not that it makes an administration look bad, but a world view look bad. What i think a lot of people need to accept (on any spectrum of world views) is that this is an administration problem, not a Christian problem. Same is to be said for any government that uses religious over tones to drive towards something... they represent the government NOT the world view they use to achieve something.
Accountability is crucial at this juncture. The past eight years have been clouded and shielded from the American public and not without reason. We deserve to know. It is our right and duty to know. Congress owes us a candid, thorough and honest investigation into the past administration. We are paying and have paid for its deliberate deceptions and wanton disregard of American's needs and wishes. Let us hope there is an open and complete accounting of those who mislead America for eight years without further deceit or delay.
"Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition" I think that if all this HOLY WAR propaganda gets out, all hell will break out in the Islam World. Lets defeat these fanatics and then lets all become atheists and live in peace. Yeah like hell that will ever happen
Dear Mr. Cafferty:
If you would demand for an investigation of a mayoral adminsitration that had acted similarly, then the answer would be yes. If you would demand for an investigation of a corporation that had acted similarly, then the answer would be yes.
A full accounting of everything EVERY president does ALL the time is in order in our information-driven society. Nothing a president or his advisors can or should remain secret for long. The really sad part, though, is that there simply isn't much productive we can do about this now. Bush really did ignore all of the warnings of 'you broke it, you bought it.' Now it's, 'HE broke it, WE bought it and have to keep on buying it.' The saddest part is that a history book may be written someday that will say something to the effect of 'The invasion of Iraq triggered great, positive, lasting changes in the Middle East.' Bush, you and I will be long gone, but we know, today, that that may happen but wasn't what he was thinking or intending.
How about obligatory? In this country, we try to hold the people we hire to work for us accountable for their actions. Let's not give up our right to good government, and to decide for ourselves whether we got it.
We have the right to ask the questions. If we find against them, those who did wrong need to be held to account. Further, let us ask more questions and demand truth from our ELECTED leaders, now, and in the future, lest we lose that right.
No! It seems that some people feel the need to constantly fuel their bastian of hate towards the Bush administration. Never once did I see the Bush administration feel the need to inquire more or put blame on the Clinton adminstration. Knee-jerk reactions and false accusations against the Bush administration are plenty, yet they suffer no adverse consequences no matter how radical and void of evidence.
Jack, how about if they are 'right' then Bush goes to jail, and if they are 'wrong' they pay a fine.
How can you prove that we invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein tried to assasinate Dubya's Daddy?? It's the sad truth, but not sure how it could be proved in a court of law, or by any other investigative body.
I think it's pretty much inevitable. pandora's box is ripped wide open. No way to close that now, besides, if we don't – international organizations will investigate in light of the all the revelations from different sources. Pick your poison.
There was some serious hanky panky going on in the build up to the war. I don't trust Cheney or Bush at all.
I am surprised that the GOP doesn't want everything out in the open in an effort to distance themselves from the Bush disease that has infected the GOP, rather than defend a president that has caused the GOP a Katrina like disaster.
I think it's the only way to shut Cheney up. He is still spouting off like he's not a war criminal.
The Republicans are pushing for an investigation and punishment for Speaker Pelosi regarding whether or not she lied about the CIA briefings on torture. Why stop there? Let's call their bluff and investigate everything that transpired and everybody involved, starting with Bush and Cheney. If we find liars, then let's issue appropriate punishment.
Yes, it is inevitable. Bush and Cheney broke the law when they orderd torture. Bybee, Yoo, Rumsfeld, Rice broke the law too. They all must go to prison. Practising lawyers must bee disbarred too.
This isn't about sexcapades or he said she said. This is about the taking America to war on false pretexts, torture, and allowing young men in their prime to die for the dellusional whims of the few. There is definately more to be known about the Bush/Chenney era and we would be failing ourselves and future generations if we allow it to be buried as if nothing really happened.
I think it's inevitable; my hope is its done to fix the problems and loopholes that allowed all the utterly Un-American activities of the previous Administration to occur. Apparently ethics & regard for the Constitution went out the window in 2001; the previous Administration justified it by waving the 9/11 & the war against Terrorism flags.
One day, (and I believe it will be sooner than later) the Bush administration will be held accountable for the desicions, justification, and execution of the Iraq War. This is long overdue, in my opinion, as there have been holes in the story we were fed from day one.
Waterboarding is torture and there were no weapons of mass destruction. It would not surprise me if this were just the tip of the iceberg. Interests outside of our freedom were at work here, and I hope that those responsible are exposed.
Bush invaded Iraq to control the oil and used religion and 9/11 to get people onboard. Religion in the armed forces is symptomatic to the entire country where faith is a way to skip homework, “God did it right? Can I go out and play now?” Investigating intangibles like motivation is pointless, let the press prosecute them for now. Have at em, keep digging for something indictable.
The Bush people made a horrible mess of things during their eight year reign of power. I think that if we knew the REAL truth(s) about what they did, and exactly HOW they did them in order to get us involved, and to carry out this war... we would be shocked! The war in Iraq was totally unnecessary, and, it would sure appear, that those in the Bush Administration lied to Congress, and the American people as well, in order to get us involved in this quagmire! And they dragged our entire country... including our principles, down, in order to fuel the flames of this war... and the results have been catastrophic to our country as well. Yes... the truth... the entire truth needs to come out if this once great country of ours is to ever heal from the wounds inflicted upon it by the Bush administration. And those who broke the laws in order to carry out this agenda of theirs need to be brought to justice.
I see no reason to investigate Bush and the war in Iraq.
After all, one of the most horrible mass murders Sadam Hussein was executed for his crimes again't the people and his horrible sons were killed. The world is better off without them.
YES! Being president does not put George W. Bush above the law. I have always been personally offended by Bush's misrepresentation of Jesus Christ (aka: The Prince of PEACE) as a cloak for his own megalomania. It was how Rove got Bush elected...and the Republicans are still trying to play the "Religion card" to incite hate among the people come every election.) But, Jesus never shunned anyone, He never carried a weapon and He never advocated war, in fact Jesus' own words were: "He who lives by violence shall die by violence."
(Roland/St George, UT)
A full fair investigation sure. But, obviously that can't happen. The Dems in power would never let facts that support Bush actions be made public – only those that support their political views. (See CIA memos, Nancy Pelosi)
First the war in Iraq was justified by Hussein's development of WMD's, which were never found.
Now it is coming to light that prisoners at Gitmo were tortured to find a link between Iraq and alQueda, AFTER Iraq was invaded.
You'd better believe that war needs to be investigated. And Obama needs to get off the kick that "It's all in the past". War crimes are crimes and they have no statute of limitations.
Cheney,Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz,and Rice are war criminals. Bush didn't have a clue, they just led him by the nose. But he should be held accountable for letting these idiots out of the cage. The Republicans scream, Obama wants to forge the future but the behavior of these people in war is an all time low for America. Just imagine if these crimes happened during a Democratic administration. You can here the talk show hosts railing.
Please do already .It's hard to believe it has taken this long to even think about investigating ?? He should have been impeached with all the laws he broke..But I guess only lying about an affair is worthy of that offense anymore.
Leave it alone. There are plenty of Jesus-freaks out there who saw it as a religious war. Unfortunately we just ended up with one in the White House those 8 years. I do not see anything positive that will come of an investigation of Bush and his puppeteers (Chaney is still yapping.).
Let Obama try to clean up the mess as best he can without adding to the problem with an investigation.
Man, I sure hope so.
Why are we explaining ourselves so much to the Muslim world?
I must say this-When the Muslim people perceive you or anyone as weak or afraid they reaction to it-is not good at all. They really believe that the weak should die as a result of his or her weakness.
Therefore, it will be very wise if we some how stop showing those kind of weakness to the Muslim world. It is what it is, and it is not doubt that that is the way it is-It doesn't matter how it is presented.
it's not simply inevitable; it is absolutely necessary. if we don't get all of the answers, then aren't we doomed to repeat history? the lies that were told by that administration were so profound, so far reaching, and so relevant to what presently confronts us, that they should be exposed, lest the american people make the same mistake of being duped by their leaders again at some point in the future. personally speaking, they should all be thrown in jail for the lives they so carelessly allowed to be lost and the thousands they allowed to be injured. cheney and rumsfeld need to be exposed for the devious, arrogant, manipulative people they are. bush needs to be exposed for the witless dupe he turned out to be.
Yes we need to investigate.
Hand those gentlemen over to the Hague please.
yes, we'd like to know how the American people were so completely duped into this fiasco and would like to have some reassurances this won't happen again.
I am torn. I would love to see Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield hang for the entire debacle. Not just lying about why we went to war, but having no plan on how to get out, stealing billions of dollars and giving them to crooked companies like Blackwater and Haliburton. They also treated out poor soldiers like crap while over their (ie electrocuting them in the shower) and while home (Walter Reed).
But in another way, they are being punished, by it finally coming out that they were the biggest bunch of bumpling idiots ever. They have to live with the knowledge that they are personally responsible for over 4,000 brave young men and women's deaths.
Yes inevitable. Now we see that the real parties that be weere playing Bush like a violin. Pandering to his "religious" beliefs. This is why we don't let the church run our wars. they substitute what is right for what is "God". The two should never intersect.
Good grief. I hope so. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield and the rest may or may not be war criminals. The only way to know for sure is an investigation.
This cesspool needs sunlight. Until we clean up the infection, the injury to this nation will never be behind us.
I missed the part in this biblical quote that states anything about a holy war. Other than the fact that it is a quote from the bible and a reference to "The Armor Of God", it is hard to view this quote as anything other than a desire for a soldier to survive a battle.
Where is this linked to holy war, Jack? What is it that you have against Politicians believing in God? You may not have noticed with those liberal blinders on, but Obama calls on God very frequently and has increased troop levels in Afganistan. Is he starting a holy war too?
I'm just amazed you can still ask that with a straight face, Jack!
i think an investigation needs to be made of everyone who knew about fabricated reasons for going to war in iraq, and the illegal use of torture. this includes those from the right AND the left. if nancy pelosi knew about these tactics and said/did nothing, she should be removed from office as well.
Absolutly. The only way the nation is going to heal is if the FULL truth comes out about Iraq, and the torture scandal. My only question is: "What did the Speaker REALLY know and when did she know it?"
President Obama is now the "The Decider" and he will decide what's best.
I sure hope there is a thorough investigation of the Bush Cheney administration.
Yes, I think so. After all the missteps of the Bush administration,
one would hope that all that would not be just swept under the carpet.
The American people deserve to know exactly what went on behind
those perpetually closed doors, so we can finally put all that to rest and get on with restoring our nation's dignity. If we don't have an investigation, questions will always rear their ugly heads at all the wrong times.
Personally, I'd like for these events to recede into history as quickly as possible, and let us get on with fixing the mess that has been their result.
Yes. Historians will do so at some point. The real question to answer is whether anyone in government has the nerve to do so during the rest of the lifetimes of Bush and company, when prosecution might be in order if it turns out that any or all of them committed any crimes. Cheney cut his political teeth in the Nixon White House. Nixon was neither prosecuted nor throughly investigated for any crimes he may have committed. Cheney watched that arrogant man pardoned, so Cheney may have learned the lesson that the powerful are above the law. Nixon said so, and Gerald Ford proved the point by pardoning him. What will futures leaders learn if Bush et al are not investigated? Probably the same thing that Cheney seemed to have learned: the powerful are above the law.
I certainly hope so.
Wow, This is amazing. Unbelievable. I cannot believe we elected Bush as our president. Thanks Jack for bringing all this to light.
it seems that Rumsfeld had called for jihad against the middle east so who is the terrorist now? Jihad= mission
I have a feeling that this is the tip of the iceberg. Let's get to the bottom of the Bush/Cheney torture scandal soon.
In a word... 'yes' ...its inevitable. The question is just how much it will further the divide that both parties seem intent on fostering among the citizens of this country. We need more centrists in office..at the very least we need more moderates from both sides. The polarization of ideologies is whats hurting this nation.
No, it will be an expensive waste of time. It will do nothing but draw our attention away from the business at hand. We need to work on the wars we have in progress and dig our way out of this recession.
The GOPs just doesn't get it. Wastiung time on writing poetry, bashing the other party and alwats running off their mouth.
Right now, the country is in a slump and they go running around making empty noises.
No wonder people are not listening to them anymore.
They are a bunch of old guys trying to fight for power among their own party.
Yes the entire Iraq war fiasco and the Bush Admnistration's involvement in leading the nation into an unnecessary and unjust war must be investigated. The torture issue, illegal wiretapping and eavsdropping, along with the outright lies that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld told the American people time and time again must also be investigated.
Make no mistake, this is not about what Nancy Pelosi did or did not know. It is about whether high crimes were committed by the previous administration and about what punishment must be doled out if those crimes did occur.
You guys are absolutely insane. Your president is slowly but surely learning what all of us involved in national security have known for longer than 8 years of this administration: that enhanced tactics, while drastic and harsh, save lives.
Your declaration that a "Truth Commission" is neccessary is half hearted. You don't want the truth. You want to smear the administration. Just like your "truth finding" forgot to go after Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Bill Clinton, and congressional democrats for forcing subprime loans on the lenders. Just like we're ignoring the unconstitutionality of this administration AS IT OCCURS in order to focus on the mastermind of 9/11 being waterboarded.
Jack, what do you think is going to happen when Republicans retake the White House? What kind of truth commissions do you think you'll be seeing if Democrats pursue this line? This is a dangerous precedent........
Not a surprise on the Pentagon’s Crusade. I was in the audience when a senior enlisted advisor to a top American command told Army ROTC cadets at Duke University that the fight for the Iraqi city of Mosul was – some might say – a battle for Nineveh from the Book of Jonah. I was horrified. What a PR fiasco! An investigation is long overdue!
Absolutely Jack, someone needs to get to the bottom of the past corrupt administration that lied to the American people and led us into this morass of a war. These individuals belong in prison for the damage they have done.
Forget about Nancy. I want to know who authorized illegal torture. That is the key to it all. This was a war crime. BTW, why were we hiring contractors to torture?? Was torture in their contract?? I want to see Cheney serving time in Guantanamo.
It d*** well better be inevitable. Water boarding is torture, and it is illegal under existing United States and international law. Google it yourself; Geneva Conventions, Article 3. It is a war crime, and ordering it or perpetrating it is punishable by up to 20 years in jail for each offense. As an ex-Sgt. in the armed forces, I find Mr. Cheney's recent statements loathsome. He would have you believe that we are weak and pitiful, and that we must become as degenerate as our enemies in order to defeat them. He is certainly weak and pitiful, but I pray that we are not. Make no mistake, Mr.Cheney and his co-conspirators will stand trial for their crimes. The only question is whether it will be us that brings them to trial, or a foreign country.
From Oregon, I believe the American People want their pound of flesh. I say go for it. Leave it up to history to determine the significance of what we do. It at least will be a lesson learned.
Kinda looks that way. This is too big to just let go. These people took us to war illegally. We can't just let it slip into the past.
Any one with half a brain can see that our country will not be able to get past this unless we get to the bottom of it. It will be painful and drawn out, but necessary.
So many horrendous things perpetrated by the Bush administration have already trickled out over the past 8 years, which have been trumpeted by the media, to no avail regarding justice. I keep waiting for the headline BUSH FINALLY BUSTED!, with actual images of "him or somebody, anybody" being dragged away to prison! Nothing seems to be illegal enough to arrest these guys. Even if an investigation is inevitable, and occurs, what difference will it make? I never let go of Hope!
Wow. It looks like our leaders are taking a page out of the extremist playbook: Choose holy book verses without a clue as to their true meanings, and present them completely out of context to try and manipulate and pursuade public and military opinion. In Ephesians, the "Armor of God" is not a metaphor for physical war. The Armor of God refers to spiritual warfare and nothing else. The Breastplate of Righteousness, Belt of Truth, Feet Fitted with Readiness that comes from the Gospel of Peace, the Shield of Faith, the Helmet of Salvation, the Sword of the Spirit (Word of God)....all of these things refer to defeating the schemes of the Devil in the spiritual realm. After Jesus came, there was only to be love and peace. We are all sinners, so as hard we try we can only fail, or improve. Nonetheless, for an administration to "color" their war briefings in biblical quotes tells us just how delusional our former leaders were. Nobody, not us, not "them", should be using religion as a shield to act out the result of our human sinfulness. It's just flat-out dumb.
Not as long as we keep our heads in the sand (or as Peggy Noonan suggested "just keep walking"). We are proving ourselves to be a nation of bullies and bird-brained ostriches.
This is sloppy, incompetent! You can have your personal belief, your personal memos of religion but when you put it on your official work, your crossing the line of other people and could have caused a terrible backlash.
What if Bush had Muslim, Buddah, exc., scriptures and pictures. I'm sure alot of Christians would have been livid and ready for impeachment. Thats why there's a separation of church and state.
LONG PAST DUE!!!!
Regardless of the Democrats who may have gone down the wrong path with them, INVESTIGATE, PROSECUTE, IMPRISON the offenders of War Crimes prepetrated in the name of the god and the U.S.A.
The Feline Effect of George W. Bush
America lost its glitter
After it became W's box of litter!
Only starting to uncover the nuggets of malodorous caturdulent revelations?
Not only is an investigation inevitable, it is necessary. The #1 and #2 guys from the last 8 years will end up doing time if and when the truth about how and why we started the Iraq war is exposed.
Hey Jack don't you think enough is enough, I know I am tired of this. Did they do this or did they do that, the heck with them all. It time to move on to the today agenda, I think we have enough to do in the present. This will set a bad precedent, prosecuting ex-presidential staff and administration.
I don't believe there would be any good to come from a complete dissection of the Bush administration. But, as a loyal Democrat, there should absolutely be an immediate investigation of blatant wrong-doings concerning torture as a means to justify this ridiculous war that Bush got us into! Any in your face mistakes should be questioned and appropriate measures taken to see that they don't happen again! Future candidates for president have to know that what Bush and his cronies did will not be tolerated again.
Poncho: You are missing the point. Bible verses do not belong in military briefings. Period. I think our government is still secular, not religion, based.
Simply not acceptable. How many other atrocities have been swept under the "classified" rug.
No, not inevitable at all. It is done history, and no amount of investigating, is going to make any difference. On the contrary, it will simply be a waste of money, as we already know most of whatever might be found.
People need to move on, and look for something positive to do, and not dwell in the past, out of animosity towards one man.
Opening a full scale investigation is the only way some of us are going to shut up about how we were lied to to start an illegal war.
It will show the rest of the world what we mean when we say "the rule of law"
Of course. As a sophomore in High School, I have grown up living in the Bush Admin., and I have seen the true horrors of political injustice. I suppose that this is kharma simply catching up with them all. Oh well.
Would this investigation employ the use of "alternative" interrogation methods upon Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc? I'm just asking...
yes! the day will come when all is revealed to the world about the misuse of authority of OneGodMinistries in relation to the past, current, & future wars!
I Am Soldier4Christ & I Founded OneGodMinistries!
The Government Uses It!
Jack I do remember Nations bringing to Justice their former presidents for despicable acts and crimes such as former Peru President Fujimori convicted of mass murder, former Liberian President Charles Taylor, The trial of Slobodan Milosevic, the former president of Yugoslavia. if the US is the bearer of the torch of freedom and Democracy we should not be the exception taking to trial Bush for murdering innocents, including our fallen heroes in Iraq, they should not have been there in first place.
yes we should investigate, and hopefully after 4 years of obama administration.. we should investigate too... I will be watching you jack hopefully youll do the same to obama administration..
I think nobody is above the laws of this country. USA is not a Christian country, it is a democracy of many co-existing religions, races and cultures. This will definitely make us all question whether all the Bush administration was doing is repating the Crusades, whether this all was just a religious war fed by hatred... I say the least that must happen is a public apology by the Bush administration, if not legal action against them!
What the hell are were they are thinking...this is half the problem interjecting religion to a war that gives the enemy fuel for their cause. Orders need to come down that bibles will not be handed out in uniform in any country...
What I about to say is a fact.
When the Mongols invaded Bagdad and the Kalifah there was deposed. A horseman mocked the Muslims there and the horse bucked and the rider fell. Was killed instantly. The point is, when the war is focused on human issues. Thats not a problem, but when you bring God into it. Thats another war!
I don't know Jack. They (the Bush administration) did so many things that seem to cry out for investigation and nothing happens. I voted for change and have yet to see any. I, like many other Americans, am more depressed by the situation every day. We've been "had" again, haven't we?
By the minute Jack, by the minute.
WOW! This is just more proof that 3 men were really the true masterminds of the Bush Adminstration, Jack. Cheney, Rove and Rumsfeld were in control after 9/11. Bush was their pawn. Because of this and other facts of the past 8 years we owe it to our country to seek truth and justice.
The Republican party is the standard bearer of traditional Christian values, like torture, abuse, unneccessary war...
Well, I sure as hell HOPE so!! What does it TAKE??? They planned the illegal invasion before they even won (See PNAC statement of objectives), and then they LIED us into a war of aggression, which is a WAR CRIME. Crap like this will keep coming out until someone DOES something. They should all be tried for war crimes and lying to the American people. ALL of them.
Iraq was run by a secular leader, but Bush was still zealot enough to believe it was a Muslim country. He didn't even know there was a difference between Shiites and Sunnis.
The real issue is this growing religious movement within the military backed by wingnut politicians. It's almost as if they're trying to recruit military personnel of all ranks for some religious end-of-days war these loonies believe will happen soon.
If this is not investigated, then the idea we are a nation of laws and no one is above the law is a giant crock of you-know-what.
This is easy, special prosecutor from the Justice Dept has investigation, find out what happened, if there is proof that laws were broken, prosecute any and all high officials. Until then, the half of the country disgusted with the Bush administration, will continue to be disgusted with all politics if it isn't resolved. This is one of the main driving forces that put Obama in office.
I'd rather see efforts lean towards investigating the Federal Reserve and the Treasury rather than the previous administration.
Never before has "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition" had such meaning. Did these people never hear of separation of church and state? Didn't President Bush insist many times that we were not engaged in a religious war? Guess they never heard of "Thou Shalt Not Lie." Oh, that's not one of the ten commandments? Well, I say we make it the 11th and let the investigation begin.
He is a criminal and should be brought to justice.
Yes, an investigation is inevitable. I only hope it will be comprehensive, transparent, and conducted by people who have NO vested interested in the outcome. For example, NO ONE who financially profited from the USA war in and occupation of Iraq should be involved in the investigation. When is someone going to do an in-depth investigation of war profiteering? The last time I saw this, it was a list of the top 10 war profiteering companies back in 2004. Since then, NOTHING. In addition to the companies that profited, I would like a list of the top 1,000 INDIVIDUALS who have been profiting from the US war in Iraq. Now THAT list would be an eye-openers & a goldmine for whoever has the balls to investigate and report on it. You'll have the support of the American people if you can get to the bottom of the real reasons for this perpetual war in the middle east.
Jack It seems like it is becoming inevitable dont it? In due time however I believe that the Bush administration will get whats coming to them. Its just a shame that we'll have to wait 5-10 yrs before any action is taken. President Bush and Dick Cheney authorized the use of torture and they should be held accountable.
There is abundant basis to believe that domestic and international crimes were committed by the Bush Administration. Why would we not investigate that? Why would we not want a clear answer to this question?
Yes, it is inevitable. It is not often that a regime causes the image of prisoners in tattered rags and with sacks over their heads to be seared into the minds of people all over the world. When it dawns on a critical mass of people that men in suits and ties used the same water torture that was used during the Spanish Inquisition, there is nothing that will stop it from being examined in every detail. Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Wolfowitz, and others have not even begun to fear what is going to come down upon their heads for what they've done.
As a Jew, I feel extremely uncomfortable with these images because they imply Christian superiority. America is not a religious nation! We are not a Christian nation! We are a nation of individuals who must not allow ourselves to let one voice speak for us all.
Santa Barbara, CA
If they don't investigate, then we are not the country we so valiantly believe to be. We wouldn't stand for the right things if we did not investigate. It would not be America. We are about doing right. And if we are wrong, we are about fixing it and redeeming ourselves.
At this point, I am sick of the noise. The only thing worse than uncovering crimes from the previous administration is to uncover them and do nothing about it. If there are not investigations, then we have set the stage for the dismantling of our democracy. How do you protect against tyranny if there is no respect for the rule of law?
i can sum up Pres Bush as
once an idiot always an idiot
If it were another nation we would call for an investigation. as every one is shouting we are a christian nation I think we should practice what we preach and do it now. rather than let it come out in the future let's break free from our past.
I hope not, for the reason that a complete investigation will undoubtedly compromise our national security. It appears to be more of a witch hunt designed to divert attention away from decisions being made by the current administration.
Of course. The Republicans are so hypocritical. They want to investigate Pelosi for lying, but they don't want to go after Bush for lying and causing the needless deaths of thousands of soldiers, crazy.
I do believe Pelosi should be investigated also. She's like Cheney, every time she opens her mouth she keeps digging herself deeper.
As the episodes of this soap opera of the past eight years unfold, it is apparent we are only seeing the tip of the ice berg. It is also becoming apparent that the Bush administration played fast and loose with the law and the truth for eight years and it was apparently OK as long as there was a biblical phrase on the cover. We need an independent person or panel to get all the facts together and paint the complete picture for us. The more I see the worse it looks. Bring it on!
We were so happy to see the end of Bush & Co. (please Mr. Cheney just go away), and now I'm afraid you are right because we are going to have to dredge up all of the criminal acts that were committed by Bush and his Administration. Bush and Cheney lied America into war, a crime in itself. How many soldiers' lives were lost because of those lies (tantamount to murder?) How many soldiers were maimed for life. The costs of the war have depleted our Treasury. We are deep in debt to China due to this war, and became a debtor nation for the first time in our history last year. Remember all of our National Guard equipment from New Orleans was in Iraq so was not available for saving lives after Hurricane Katrina? How many National Guard have lost their lives? Who would want to be in the National Guard again after what the Bush Administration did to our National Guard? Remember the criminal acts of Abramoff, influence peddling and Tom Delay, and the dishonest redistricting in Texas to gain political power? And of course, there is the firing of the US Attorneys who refused to be dishonest and go along with their schemes. Bush, Cheney, Rove and Rumsfeld, and probably Condi all belong in jail.
I think the investigation is going to become inevitable, although I see no purpose in it. The public will want to know everything, but as usual even if we are told that is the full story, we all know it won't be. Facts are always swept under the rug, covered up, and misremembered. The only reason I could see a need for a complete investigation, is if there was some remote chance Bush might be brought up on charges for being an egotistical lunatic, who never should have had the power he was given. He neither has the IQ or judgement to use it wisely.
No- it seems its only reporters looking for a story – anything to keep bringing up the past presidency. If President Obama has said to move on with the present day business, its proof enough that its only individual news agencies that are looking any Bush related story. There is so much going on right here in the present, including some rather disturbing choices our current President has made; but atlas – no discussion on these issues. What is inevitable is that Pelosi will be involved in a complete investigation. Being a liar and accusing the CIA of being liars, it bit more important right now than supposedly pictures that may or may not be photo shop pictures that mysteriously surface after years – so what? "approriateness" duh, ya think a spiritual boost is wrong? You use the word "Muslim" in a collective tone, as if all Muslims were terriorists – isn't that wrong? Not all Muslims would find Abu Ghraib an attack on Muslims, but instead, an improper way to handle Prisoners. Talk about putting a spin on things. I am done reading CNN and you!
Not only is in inevitable, but i feel that we as a nation have a responsibility in doing so. I feel violated hearing what my government did on my behalf under Bush's watch.
Yes, those evil people should, at the very least, be investigated. Only Heaven knows how many innocent American/Iraqi lives were devastated due to the self serving decisions made by those with nothing but oil and money on their minds. Hopefully those responsible for that war will NEVER rest in peace for what they have done.
The drumbeat is becoming ever louder and the broom brushing the dirt under the rug is wearing out. In eight years, I never saw Dick Cheney as much as I do now. Could it be he's running scared and trying to cover his butt? And where is George W.... in Cheney's bunker? Wouldn't these two buffoons look great in prison stripes?
All this bloodshed, hatred, intollerance and lies, and Bush and his cronies call themselves deeply religious men.
I was raised Catholic, Church, Catholic School the whole nine yards. I now look at religion with disdain. Filled with hypocrisy and lies, I like many are finished with these fables and the failed attempts to make them historically real.
Religion and Government should NEVER MIX. Churches NEED to be Taxed or be quiet!
I hope so, Jack. Our nation's got much heavier issues to deal with than this glaring situation. The Bush administration approved torture. That's against the law. If the U.S. can send a dying and tortured American to jail for using medical marijuana, the Bush clan should answer for their crimes. End of argument.
I think it would be a wonderful idea, as long as we do it for every administration. Bush was to much of a gentleman to encourage or condone a much needed investigation of the Clinton term of office, preferring to to move ahead. Considering the "progressives" are so regressive and anally retentive, we should make this a habit whenever we change the presidency, just like the third world bannana republic the libs want to make us. They are such morons.
An investigation of the Bush Administration is just begging to be conducted but will be a waste of time and tax dollars if there is no will to prosecute illegal acts.
I don't know if it is inevitable but President Obama is probably thinking. "it was inevitable that in her quest for power, Nancy Pelosi would open her mouth and put the foot of the Democratic Party in it.
This is a good distraction for Republicans and it gets the Obama Administration off message.
Bush's regime should be looked by at by a special prosecutor in regard to the Iraq war, torture and the abuse of presidential authority such as the NSA , and federal prosecutor scandals.
There has to be an investigation only to make sure nothing illegal happened. We don't need to go after the former president just to prove he was and idiot. Most people allready know that. I can forgive poor decisions. I cannot forgive being mislead.
i have an idea...
why don't we do the in-depth investigating BEFORE we let thousands and thousands of people die?
It needs to be done – not because we will benefit from prosecuting Bush, but because we need to send a clear message to every person holding office that your every action will be brought to the public, and they will judge you.
Mr. Cafferty, I am sure CNN and all others who hated the former President, will keep this going until a trial or hearings are held. It won't matter how it will keep all that hatred going and keep the USA from moving forward.
I believe there are so many questions of wrong doing during the Bush Administration's tenure it is imperative there is an investigation. If we just leave it in the past, that means there is no accountability for anyone who was involved in the wrong doing. What would stop a future President from doing anything he/she wanted if there is no accountability? If an investigation does not take place it gives the green light for future administrations to do whatever they see fit, no matter the methods.
Of course. The textbooks demand it. These questions will trouble the American spirit for a long time to come, unless we judge those responsible.
Republicans should be thankful: sending these criminals to the slammer will give them the chance for a clean slate. And we must send them to the slammer, or else Republican leadership in this country will always mean torture in the eye of the world.
Yes, but not by us. They may have to build a nice golf course in Holland so the officials from the last administration will have something to do while waiting for their war criminal trials. It's not as if the world court would have to look far and wide to make a case. Of course, our guys aren't going anywhere near Holland, so this is a mute issue. Thank goodness we have a president that has a soul. We just may climb out of the world's dog house with President Obama's leadership.
First off, have you or anyone else verified that the covers are authentic? GQ is not a source most people go to for real news. Second, since CONGRESS declared war, (legally the President can't) the question should be who prepared the report given them on WMD and was CONGRESS given details on what the probability was the data was correct. Obviously they believed what the were given and felt Iraq poised a threat to our country. If someone deliberately lied they should be prosecuted if not let it rest.
Orange County California
looks like one of those chain email pdf files...sounds like Dan Rather all over again.
Sure. I am for an investigation; then, we can finally find out what was fact and what was leftists fantasy.
Oil is moving up with no Bush in office; I thought that only Bush allowed oil prices to go up to benefit his buddies. Then again, that is another fantasy from the left.
Obama has made it quite clear that his Administration whats to bury Iraq with all the other questionable acts of the Bush Administration, I believe this answers the question of any kind of investigation. When push comes to shove American Presidents are above the Law. It would be wise of us all to remember this when we vote.
YES, an investigation is unavoidable – but it will not happen.
More important is the question why the CIA released records of who was informed about torture that are incomplete.
Are you telling me that Boehner, McConnell etc had not been informed but Pelosi had been? Highly unlikely.
So what is Pelosi pussyfooting around instead of demanding production of ALL CIA documents?
For heavens sake, what is wrong with you people......We should all be thankful to President Bush for keeping America safe for eight years. Instead of dwelling on some inevitable war events, let us be thankful for once and not forget what September 11 brought to all of us......we shall not forget!.........and by the way I don't see any "evil" in quoting Gods word, or is it offensive to quote the Bible in this lawless era!
Yes. In order for this country to go forward and rebuild this country's higher standards again, we will have to go back and put justice to work. If we don't the likelihood that these crimes and errors will be repeated are ten-fold. Obama says "As a nation we can do better" I agree with him, but my patience is being tested.
And here I thought the war in Iraq was about "nuclear wepons". Seems like it was entirely more personal for Mr. Bush.
If Congress felt compelled to ‘investigate’ President Clinton’s personal affairs, which had no impact on the well being of our country, how could we not investigate the former administration’s role in Iraq?
It is inevitable but im not sure I want to know how out of touch Bush was
Absolutely – hurry and get it started. Bush Administration was corrupt. You know it and isn't the so called intelligence that supported the war on Iraq (cherry picked – I think it was called). Investigate these people.
Yep, it is coming because the truth has a way of coming out and because Cheney, father and daughter, won't shut up.
If we didn't have all these problems from jobs, healthcare, economy, I would love to see all of the administration brought up before the American public with their lies exposed after which they are taken straight to Leavenworth.
But since those dolts have basically sold the country to China to pay for the wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq and our economy is on a banana peel slipping every second, I feel we have more important things to do. The word, 'survival' comes to mind.
This was a religious war from the start. I am a spiritual person who believes that the separation of church and state allows me my own personal beliefs. The people who don't believe in the separation of church and state are evangelicals who want everyone to believe as they do. Anyone who thinks this war wasn't about religion falls into that group.
There is no question, lies that justified us going to war....... they should be investigated but it cannot be done until we have completely exited Iraq.
I would be for an investigation if the wrongs done went beyond oral sex.
I believe we will need a complete investigation... as this war was never necessary as the administration suggested it was. It's time our country had a wake up call, it IS patriotic to question your government.
How could the American people and Congress have been so blind??
God told Bush to invade Iraq, remember?
Bush thinks the U.S. Constitution is just a god d*amned piece of paper, remember?
Bush owns 100,000 acres in safe-haven Paraguay that has no extradition for the crimes that be would be accused of.
We won't be America if we are unwilling to be accountable, responsible, and honest about the activities of our Government. There are many lessons to learn from the last 8 years. We the People and all that... but it's imperative we know what has happened, in our name. And if crimes have been committed, we must with the full will of the People stand up for the Constitution and our democracy and justice... There is no other way.
America must be seen as solid. We cannot be changing our positions every 4 years, based on a political position. Therefore, if the Bush administration broke the law then we must take action so that the world can trust us in the future. It is our integrity as a nation at stake.
There was ZERO damage done to our democracy caused by the Iraq war. We did the right thing to depose Saddam Hussein, unless anyone that actually wishes for the "good old days" of when he was back in power. The Iraq war was not a mistake by any means.
Do Presidents exaggerate to get their policies through, whether they relate to war or peace? No. Only Bush did that. Kidding.
Didn't Obama just say that we had no choice but to continue on in both Afghanistan and Iraq? That was his spin. Should we prosecute? What about when he told the flat out lie that his so-called "stimulus" package would create 3.5-4 million jobs? A complete fantasy. A lie. Prosecute?
Jack, thank you for being brave and not conforming to mainstream media..
There needs to be full investigation and discloser of the truth..
This will never go away until it is done..
No more BS.... Let the truth be told...
Everyone knows the Bush Administration is guilty as hell and need to be brought to justice.. Lies, lies, lies....
All lies and what worries me is that they have gotten to Obama now..
He will refuse to do any investigation that would bring out the truth so Bush cronies will be brought to justice..
The most rabid Publicans are foaming at the mouth already over just the torture question. What will they do when the pre 9-11 intelligence failures and the lies that led to a for profit that has cost this country so much. Then there is a look into the books of the profiteers themselves. Those that don't slither back into the darkness of their closets will be having apoplectic fits outrage at having been exposed for the hypocritical frauds they really are.
Rid the nation of the smoke and mirrors let clarity reign. When the power of love overcomes the love of power the planet will know peace.
Since we are talking about 1 million Iraq civilians killed, thousands of American troops killed in action, tens of thousands of American troops injured in body and mind, yes there damn well better be an investigation, if this whole damn war was fabricated for blind ambition sake!!
The above mentioned are entitled to justice served, if this is in fact the case. If President Bush and VIce-President Cheney were complicit, then send them off to jail and we'll mark the day as a National Holiday – Land of the Free and Justice for All.
Not soon, I hope. Let all the information and facts drip out in a slow, torturous way, watching the guilty implode upon themselves. Then investigate them.
Yes, yes and yes !
Apparently all religious fanatics don't come from the Middle East...Some come from Texas !
Whoever would have thought that Bush and Rumsfeld were the REAL "BLUES BROTHERS'......................on a mission from God ! ! !
Maybe they are really (Larry) Bush......(Moe) Rumsfeld......and (Curly) Rove........yuk.....yuk....yuk... stooges all ! ! !
Thank God we now have a President.....and a White House staff where everyone has an IQ in triple digits for a change.
A complete investigation of Bush and his crusade is impossible - about a third of the population supports his crimes and would certainly block a just resolution.
Jim, Craig, CO
I believe we should have an investigation if we intend to make someone responsible but if we want to show off our dirty laundry and do nothing about it, then forget about the investigation. I am sick and tired of making accusations and then do nothing about them. I think it makes us look silly to the other countries.
Yes, I hope so – this needs to come out! Obviously the Bush Administration & his religious supporters didn't remember what the 10 Commandments said. "Do unto others" should have been printed atop one of Rumsfeld's adgendas; Oh ya, those folks can pick and choose which biblical passages apply to them!
The Fact are out there so it is accountable and as all the Presidents as said "We are a NATION of LAW!!" So It can not be avoided.. The thing is no one will be account for it for we all wanted to blow the "Terrorist" after 911. But like the old saying " two wrong does not make it RIGHT!! But The U.S. always thing that there right. And we are but one with many. People we are not alone!!
Since the religious right believed that Bush had a mission in the middle east – it doesn't surprise me that we are finding just such a trail, but it does sicken me. Maybe the only way around it is through it.
No we should not investigate it. Why should we? They were pushing people through meat grinders. If they could Jack they would push you throught one. As far as getting them upset..who cares. They want to kill us anyways. Rob Massachusetts
So what? Are these "cover sheets" Classified? How many members of congress leak secret information to the Wash Post and NY Times immediately following a briefing from our intel agencies? I bet it's over 50%. Of the liberals that are calling for the prosecution of Bush Admin. officials how many would have called for the prosecution of Truman after we nuked Japan? TWICE!!!!!!!
I truly hope so. If war crimes go unchallenged once, it compounds the crime and makes criminals of those whose inaction appears to condone
what is clearly immoral and against everything good that this country is supposed to represent to the rest of the world.
Maybe as part of the investigation they can determine who was told what by whom and when (about methods used to question captives at Gitmo)
Um really? Yes, lets just leave this be, clearly it will show our political system that you can steal, lie and cheat, and get away with it. And to the guy that stated that Bush kept us safe for 8 years, well how did we manage to never get attacked in 15 years previously....
There has to be an investigation only to make sure nothing illegal happened. We don’t need to go after the former president just to prove he was and idiot. Most people allready know that. I can forgive poor decisions. I cannot forgive being mislead.
Yes, as a parent of a soldier that served in Iraq, I want
I want to know the truth about everything.
It is my right as an American.
I was a Republican... I did vote for Obama –
I think I made the right choice.....
Right now I am so profoundly depressed about everything.
The truth can only help me... and the rest of America.
St. Paul, MN
last time I checked, christian beliefs were what our troops have carried with them into battle ever since George Washington did so in the Revolutionary War. In this case, religion is being forced on no one. The passage above is nothing but ENCOURAGING. I have never met a man with bullets flying by his head who would not be glad to hear these words of encouragement. Until all of you have been in battle with bullets flying by your head, you should reconsider your words. Accusing President Bush of criminal activities because of this would be absurd.
Jack, Not only is it inevitable, but for the sake of our Constitution and the separation of powers, it must be investigated. Precedent is important and Watergate set the wrong precedent. Cheney worked for Nixon and one could argue that what just happened these past eight years is descended directly from his experience.
If we don't investigate and prosecute and punish, I assure you there are young Cheney's from inside the Bush administration who will seek to restore the precedents set during the Bush years. That is the danger of doing nothing.
There would be no way to ensure such an investigation did not amount to a partisan witch hunt. Should we then conduct investigations into the Johnson and Nixon Administrations and their conduct during the Vietnam War? What about the covert operations conducted under every Administration during the years of the Cold War? Where would this end? It's time to move on.
Yes, for many reasons. While our Constitution clearly asks for a separation of Church and State, Bush 43 just used the war and many issues to bring his religious beliefs into our government. One of the contributors mentions that they do not see how it would as Iraq was a secular state under Hussein. Well, we are dealing with people who will go out of their way to link this issue to a Crusade against all Arabs. This past administration used Bill Clinton for eight years to blame any and every failure on Pres. Clinton. Now, we the Amercian people deserve an honest and current evaluation of just what they did. If we used the same standards and issues on Bush Cheyney and other cronies as we used in Nuremberg, they are clearly War Criminals. No issue to argue, but guilty of violating basic human rights, fabricating a war we did not need, and lying to the American People about most if not all the time of their horrible term in office.
Its inevitable Jack, I see it coming! Its apparent! I'm a proponent of everything done in the dark eventually coming forth to light
Sure. It's the right thing to due.
But when the dems loose in 4 or 8 years the Republicans will return the favor. Then in 4 or 8 years the dems can get payback. Then in 4 or 8 years the Republicans will have revenge.
I guess that's okay because 4 or 8 years the dems will gain power and strike. But then in 4 or 8 years...
nevermind. I change my answer.
No – it should NOT be inevitable. Congress – both Democrats and Republicans should stop their quibling and get some serious work done. Pelosi looks petty and out of step for escalating this issue.
I think it is time for the world to wake up to the fact the Islamic radicals are going to hate us no matter what . If you think their Jihad movement is not religiously based you are a fool. I am tired of hearing that the U.S. is responsible for everything wrong with the world.I wished the people of the media would be water-boarded to tell the world who's side they are really on.Your support for anything Anti-American is sickening.Wake up.
I believe CRIMES WERE COMMITTED by the Bush administration and by the President. CRIMES against the constitution and against humanity.
Would you say about common criminals "let's just move on" when someone murders a group of people or robs a bank premeditately ? No, you would not. Why is it then when they murdered thousands and plundered our economy it is ok to "move on" ?
Should we then follow Hitler's words: murder one you are a murderer, murder a million and you are a conqueror ?
Prosecute the criminals !
Those of you trying to cover it up, you should be ashamed of yourselves !
I guess the seperation of church and state does not apply in a time of war. Constitution? What's that?
Every time I hear something about the Bush era I shake my hands, we don't allow prayers in pubic schools and now we're spouting the bible hand and hand with the war in Iraq? Why didn't we just draw muhammad on these flyers..lol Not with holding it would be offensive to non christians outside of the US but how about non christians inside the military as well?
Yes investigate, prosecute and sentence any law breakers and shed light on any questionable non lawbreakers acts. That is the only way to keep this stuff from happening again, obviously giving Nixon a pass back then wasn't enough to detour others.
The Obama administrations reluctance thusfar to investigate tactics used by the Bush administration regarding torture seems strangely similar to Pelosi's comments that impeachment is not on the table. National security will ultimately be used as an excuse to let bygones be bygones. I don't think there will ever be an investigation within this country until historians begin to honestly analyse the war decades from now.
When sending our soldiers into to foreign land where you don't know if around the corner you'll meet your end, I'm glad to see that the administration has the guts to use such "appropriateness" A total sepration of church and state is and will be our downfall and complete anarchy will reign. Our morals are what holds this country together and thank God for our leaders (at lease some do) that hold on to their Christian core values. As a conservative Republican I stood by Bush only because of his values and what he said he beleived in. But, also at the same time, I was never fully complete with the war. My Dad (ulitmate Conservative) said he might have when in to office had a chance of a lifetime to "finish what Daddy started". There were no weapons found..gone to Iran or Syria..possibly. But the buck stops at the president and he has to own up. I think the real investigation should be into who the hell gave the info to begin with. Good ol' Powell saw this one a' coming a few sand dunes back...didn't he ?!?
I forgot to mention the torture. America has never tortured and we have prosecuted people in other countries for torture, including waterboarding. This has shamed our country. This came right from the White House. These people broke the Geneva Conventions, and our own laws and lied about it. In World War II, many German soldiers threw down their weapons and ran into the arms of the Americans because they knew we did NOT torture and were humane. This entire episode makes me sick.
Of course there will be a full investigation because the Bush administration is a convenient whipping boy. Why take the blame when you can point fingers at someone else? This will come back to bite the democrats on the backside though, because a thorough investigation of why we went to war, what we knew, and WHO knew it will finally be dragged out into the harsh light of truth for all to see.
There's no question about it George Bush has become the poster boy for term limitations. The truth always rears it's ugly head and the law of the land should run it's course....
Absolutely! A full investigation should always be launched when lives are lost senselessly.
New York, NY
It must be pursued to return the USA to a nation of laws.
I don't do much praying, but I will in this case. I will pray that all those responsible for this horrific war, for lying to us and for trumping up reasons for our nation to go to war, for getting thousands of our kids killed and maimed I will pray that they are all brought to justice.
Once God gets over the shock of hearing from me, I hope He will help us get this done!
Nick K. Mahopac, NY
Should we investigate the Bush Administration? Well, that depends...
Did we investigate the Nazis when they tortured/murdered people?
Did we show pictures of that abuse to the world?
Did we investigate, try and put those people in jail?
Let the past treatment of the Nazi War Criminals be the determining factor in how we treat the Bush Administration, ie the "Torture President". If they committed the same crimes, the punishment should be the same as well.
I'm leaning towards "Yes".
Jack I have just one comment about this ,
I HOPE SO !!
As for the Religious stuff on the front of cover of intelligence reports is another reason why there should be a separation of church and state . Jack Did you see the Movie W , where that George Told dear old Mom He was destined By God to run for the office of president That Should have been the First indication that this man was more appropriate for a Padded Room instead Of the Oval office .
But That Is just My opinion .
San antonio TX.
To some degree, this strikes me as somewhat ironic. We are talking about war here... Is it me, or shouldn't there *always* be a full investigation when the US enters a war? I think this would help provide transparency and accountability to the nation.
If we do not find out what really happen over the last eight years how will history be wrriten? Do we call that chapter "The Lost Eight Years in American History?
Myra in Hawaii
I think the irony of this entire situation is that it's make George W. Bush look more like a puppet being manipulated by Dick Cheney than the American people ever knew.
Let the world court try them.We insist it be done to others that commit war crimes.
These crimes committed by the Bush Administration must be prosecuted fully and include all of the culprits, all the way to the top. Bush and Cheney belong in prison for what they have done to this country.
I say "YES"! Crimes have been committed. Why as a nation do we sit by and act as if this fraudulantly sold war and all the abuses that have followed are above the law? Are we a nation of laws or not? A Special Prosecutor needs to be appointed or our Constitution is not worth much.
Hindsight is 20/20 and an Elephant never forgets. The Dem's better be careful of what they wish for because with Pelosi and Biden there are bound to be some screw ups on their watch. Let's see how how bold Cafferty is then calling for investigations.
An investigation on some level is probably already underway. The liberal press is not satisfied with a liberal president and congress they want to prove that they were right. It seems they believed what our enemies – YES ENEMIES (anyone who wants to kill us and our children are our enemies) said when they said "America and President Bush are the devil". Like him or hate him Bush was doing what he thought was best for our country. Obama is doing what he thinks is best for our country. Am I likely to want to Jail a person that tried to protect my family? Not likely. By the way, those who can look death in the barrel without religion are among the toughest or most oblivious on this planet.
I don't think a complete investigation will ever come about. The reason why is because too many politicians will get caught in lies if it were to happen. Right now the current administration and Democrats are hand picking what they want investigated. They are not going out to get an independent group to investigate either. They want politicians investigating politicians and that is a recipe for deception. We may never know the truth only what congress thinks we need to know to appease us and them. Frankly that is a waste of time and tax dollars that could be used on health care.
A complete investigation of the Bush Administration and the Iraq war is inevitable because of Americas disapproval of the War and the former President.
While there are many who think we should move on disregard past transgressions, history teaches us that we cannot move forward until we have dealt with the past. If there is evidence that national or international laws were violated, let those accused defend themselves in a court of law. If we live by what our country truly stands for, then yes, an investigation is inevitable.
Holy Grail !
It seems that the Nation of Islam and any other Jihad group had this down pat as soon as we began the bombing.
It seems we have forgotten all Bush said about Hussein being the guy who tried to kill his father.
This WAS Bushes War and 4000+ people have given the ultimate sacrifice for a guy who had the same whimsical flights of fancy as Saddam did.
What ever happened to coexistence?
Gott mit unns, Jack. God was with us. One crusade after another, this has been the justification. Rummy knew exactly how to play our beliefs, and our fears, to support his agenda.
God is an easy ally when it comes to war. He won't show up to call you a liar.
Is drawing inspiration from biblical passages now a crime? Man, that took a lot less time than I thought it would under Obama.
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