FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Illegal aliens in this country could wind up winning big from the recently passed economic stimulus package.
The economic stimulus package could wind up creating 300,000 jobs for illegal aliens.
USA Today reports that studies by two conservative think tanks show illegal aliens could take 300,000 new construction jobs - or 15 percent of the two million jobs to be created by U.S. taxpayer dollars. The numbers of illegal workers getting jobs could be especially high in states like California.
These reports blame Congress for not forcing employers to certify the status of workers. The House of Representatives had included a provision in its version of the bill that would require employers to use a Homeland Security Program called e-Verify, but the Senate didn't include it, and the provision wasn't in the final bill that went to the president. So much for putting Americans first.
This recession/depression isn't that bad and unemployment is only at 8.1 percent and we've only lost 4.4 million jobs in the last 15 months. What's wrong with giving a few hundred thousand jobs away to people who shouldn't even be in the country in the first place? This is your government at work.
An advocacy group for immigrants doesn't dispute the 300,000 estimate - but says it's impossible to know for sure since there could be many jobless immigrants leaving the country because of the recession. The group says these are fear tactics and instead we should be focusing on economic progress for all. Excuse me?
Immigrant advocacy groups along with business groups - who of course benefit from cheap labor - argue that the E-verify program has lots of errors that could mean millions of workers would be wrongly identified and not authorized for jobs.
The Obama administration has delayed until at least May a Bush era order that would require all federal contractors to use E-verify in hiring.
Here’s my question to you: What does it mean if up to 300,000 illegal aliens get jobs created by the economic stimulus package?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Bill from New Jersey writes:
Jack, There are some parts of the stimulus package debate that are just nit-picky: who cares if pig manure is studied in Iowa as long as the guys studying it are paying their mortgages and buying a car with their salaries? This ain't one of them though. Every cent of this stimulus needs to go to bona fide taxpaying Americans who are in trouble right here. They expect no less from their government, and every one of us, their fellow citizens, should stand behind them.
Alan from Riverdale, New York writes:
I have been an Obama supporter since day one but this is SO WRONG! How can you create jobs and then give them away to people who are here illegally? Aren't these jobs being created by funds from the U.S. taxpayers? How can this president and this Congress justify giving these jobs to people who do not deserve them? Illegal aliens are lawbreakers.
Jack, Aren't we jumping the gun here? Why provoke such a one-sided question? This will do nothing more than bring out this country's bad side. Last I looked: even illegal aliens who raise their children AND have jobs in this country spend money here. Isn't that good for the economy? Shouldn't we stop scapegoating and come together to pull out of this?
If the company hires illegal workers, put the CEOs in jail and fine the CEOs $100,000 for each person hired. I think the law is already on the books. Enforce the laws and they will go home.
E-Verify should be mandated in every state in our nation. There is no excuse in the world why it is not. I have been writing the president and my representatives regarding the stimulus package and the use of e-Verify. What a slap in the face to all of us that some of these jobs will go to people who are here illegally. This is sick. Americans need jobs and they need them now.
Craig from Palm Springs, California writes:
Just great! My ancestors got here around 1665 and I've been trying to get a job since last July!
It means that Americans aren't desparate enough to take the jobs.
There ought to be a law, Jack, citizens only, period.
We want to punish American businesses for shipping jobs overseas, when we will give illegal immigrants jobs at home?
The hypocrisy continues to grow under the current administration.
It would mean that they're doing jobs that even the millions of unemployed Americans refuse to do. Which begs the question, who makes more, that illegal immigrant or the guy collecting on unemployment?
Well Jack, it means you guys have to get your illegal immigrant problem fixed – quickly!
I think this is ridiculous! The federal govt. needs to deport everyone that is here illegally and that would take a strain off of state and local budgets as well as reducing federal spending. It won't happen because both major parties are lobbying for the Hispanic vote.
It means we are not putting Americans back to work!
Hi Jack, If 300,000 jobs are given to illegal aliens, it basically means that 300,000 American born citizens will not have the opportunity to become employed. I have nothing against people from other countries coming here to get a fresh start, but not at the expense of our own citizens being knocked out of a job. We not only need to buy American, but we need to empoly American too.
Just use eVerify and stop wasting gov't funds on two ends. First by using stimulus dollars to employ illegal aliens and second, paying for a program that is not well utilized. I would also suggest that employees demand that their employers use eVerify but in this job market I am sure most employees would hesitate to 'make waves'
Jack-It means republican talking heads are blowing smoke up our or that our verification system really needs a good repair.
It means 300,000 more Americans are out of a job!
It means 300,000 reasons for a revolution in this country. We, Americans, are fighting now for our very survival and that means that it is time for us to take care of Americans first. If we do not do this then there will be no one to take care of others.
Which cliche to use? We were sold a pig in a poke? We were duped? We were bamboozled? None seem to capture the outrage we should be expressing over the use of tax dollars to support non-American citizens who will deport as many of our dollars as they can. SHAMEFUL!
Mike – Pueblo, CO
It means 300,000 Americans or legal immigrants didn't. And THAT means the stimulus could be exposed as a political payout rather than economic stimulus.
It means employers are not checking immegration status.
Ron San Diego
If Illegal aliens get the jobs, where does the money go? How will this help the economy if the money is being spent in another country? Has anyone ever looked into how and where illegal alien spend their HARD earned wages????
That’s just great. After being pummeled into the ground for the last eight years, facing the myriad of crises with which we are now being immolated and being forced to pay for the idiotic blunders made by billionairs while helping them to maintain their high flying standard of living, now we can’t even get the jobs we are paying to be created for us. Stop the galaxy, I want to get off.
Let's separate the illegal immigrant issue from the jobs/stimulus - how short-sighted and stupid are you if you can't see that jobs for any worker in this country equals money into our economy?
...Not saying I approve of hiring undocumented workers... I'm just saying, let's keep focused on creating jobs for EVERYONE, please.
I suspect if President Obama signed a bill related to illegal workers today, the lead in the story would relate to some media-generated conspiracy accusing him of trying to distract us from the stimulus package.
SHEESH. Enough already!
If even 1 illegal alien is getting any job in the US, the company that hires them should NEVER get any government money!!!!
These companies SHOULD BE FINED heavily. Their fines will support the ongoing battle of illegal immigration. If companies aren't allowed to hire illegals most of them will return to their own country or some other country who will accept them.
This is totally corporate greed at it's finest!!!!!!
Undocumented immigrants have been the back bone of America's economy for centuries – since the founding of the United States.
My question is, what kind of jobs are these individuals receiving? Most likely they are in the agricultural or manufacturing sector working extremely difficult jobs for a low wage. This low labor price then facilitates company profits, and thereby stimulates the American economy.
This one sentence prompt provides no information or background about the issue, but expects analysis. The implied statement of "illegal aliens" is "people who don't belong in our country, and siphon off our resources". Sounds like this prompt is trying to elicit reactionary responses, as opposed to thoughtful reflection.
300,000 jobs where half the money goes back to Mexico? It's just further proof that our leadership is clueless.
Jack: Absolutely nothing. Illegal alien's monies spend the same in the economy-–take whatever stimulus we can get--because sooner or later--every penny is gonig to count--corporate greed has brought the American economy to its knees---and we keep pouring more and more money into a bottomless pit---if you are going to balme somebody for the ecomony-–at least blame the appropriate people--we are always looking for some to blame-but never the ones who are responsible.
Well, we didn't close the doors to the illegal aliens, what do we expect. We need to pass laws stating that illegals do not get any rights to Social security, unemployment, medical etc. till anyone becomes a citizen. and we can save alot of money by not catering to people who don't want to learn english. Especially not giving U.S. citzen ship tests in other Foreign languages. My parents came here,and learned the language and melted into the society. The border should be secured with American troops coming home from Iraq
It means that we will now have a talking point for Republicans that actually holds some merit.
Jack, what it means is the taxpayer is taking another ride and getting nothing
It means my blood pressure boils over again.
It means someone needs to get the illegal immigration bill back on the table. If you're here illegally, you shouldn't get a job unless you have a green card and you definitely shouldn't qualify for programs like medicare or welfare. Close the borders, require English as our primary and only language, and make illegal immigrants pay back taxes if they want to be American citizens. It's that simple.
What it means to me is that President Bush was, and still is, full of hot air.
He said he wanted to protect the US from Terrorists, yet we have a Southern Border as wide open as the Barn after all the horses got out.
Bush did nothing to slow the flood of Illegals because the Church did not want him to do so. The Illegals are more active in the Church and donate much more money than the average US Citizen does.
being in an industry for many years that the average American finds beneath them,... or anything that deals with common or hard labor. This doesn't surprise me. I think the outcome of this might actually show. How lazy we American have become. We want the paycheck more than the work.
When this is all said and done you might be surprised that the Illegal's are the only ones willing to do the work. Sure some will scream they are taking jobs, but the truth will show they only jobs that's taken are the jobs no one else wants. Or if they do want it for now.. paycheck only.. soon as something easier comes along their work ethic will quit without notice.. and move on.. seen it for the past 30 years.. this changes nothing
Oh, no. Does Lou Dobbs have something that's catching? This sounds like a "fact" that has come straight from the Republican National Committee fax machine. For starters, no one has gotten a significant number of jobs out of the stimulus package yet because it has just been enacted. Once the jobs are created, you and Lou can take a head count of illegals and get back to us. I imagine this same song and dance will be tried over healthcare, too. Jack, you're the last one I would have expected to be spewing this nonsense.
It means that too many employers still don't get it!
It's bad enough that we export jobs to foreign countries and build up their economies, but to let illegal aliens come into this country and take jobs just compounds our problems. If these people are getting jobs created from the stimulus package, then someone has to pay: someone other than the American middle class.
JACK, IT IS TERRIBLE...I THINK WE NEED TO STOP THIS AND H1B VISAS TOO. RIGHT NOW, AMERICANS ARE OUT OF JOBS, THERE IS NO POINT IN OPENING H1B VISAS...ALL THESE ORIENTALS NEED TO BE SCREENED THOROUGHLY, BECAUSE THEY ARE FILING THESE H1B VISAS...KISHEN C.RAO, WINTERVILLE, NC
It means that those in charge of the jobs created by the stimulus package are not doing their job to make sure that no illegal alien is employed. Every one should be held accountable to make sure all is done in a legal and orderly manner.
How can this many people have jobs already from the stimulus? I thought it was just passed??? If so, why didn't those jobs go to American citizens?
Illegals getting jobs that should go to unemployed Americans (like me) would be a stark illustration of just how screwed up things really are.
Once upon a time, the "melting pot" that was America was on the upswing and we actually needed immigration to fuel our industrialization.
Now, jobs are disappearing due to advances in technology and the export of jobs overseas. So we can't keep accepting immigrants like we once did. All we're doind is adding to the unemployment statistics, whether they are legal, illegal or whatever.
It sucks, that's what it means.
300,000 jobs to illegal aliens . . . you've got to be kidding!! I have nothing against someone coming to this country legally, but to even suggest that those here illegally should even be considered for jobs so desperately needed by American citizens is insane.
Guess if all this happens, we will become the "United States of Mexico". I should have learned Spanish in my younger days.
I think it means a couple of things. One is the so-called stimulus package is supposed help American citizens and OUR economy. Another is that if 300,000 jobs are going to illegal aliens, it means that Americans are too lazy to do those jobs. In recent decades, too many of us have been spoiled by an abundance of high-paying jobs. Maybe some old-fashioned hard times will serve to toughen up those Americans who have had it too easy for their whole lives. As Johnny Cash sang, "either get tough or die."
Why just limit the stimulus to 'illegal' aliens? Why not include illegal U.S. citizens? Where can I sign up for either group?
No longer can some say "They doing the jobs that Americans won't do". The people living in the "shanty town" in So Cal want those jobs and should get them. Along with the millions of Americans out of work right now.
If that happens it would mean employers are not doing their job in the proper way to hire people. There is a question that asks are you able to work in the U.S. in a legal status on job applications. It that question is not answered honestly than that person should be fired and their contact information given to immigration but that information would also not be honest now would it. So legal individuals only should be aloud to work and retain such employment an others let go if found out to be illegal.
The immigration policy weak as it is should be enforced and maybe this situation would not be as bad as it is. No one knows how many illegal immigrants there are in this country. Lou Dobbs has said there could be anywhere from 12 to 20 million, do you really think 300,000 is the real number ? The question becomes why cant the federal government control this ?
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No longer can some say "They are doing the jobs that Americans won't do". The people living in the "shanty town" in SoCal want those jobs and should get them. Along with the millions of Americans out of work right now.
It means there are a lot of LAZY U.S. citizens that believe they are entitled to get money from the mailbox as opposed to working for it.
I'm ok with unemployment assistance for FULL TIME workers who have lost their jobs as a result of the economic downturn. However, if someone has not worked full time in the last three plus years, they should not be "given" money. "Welfare" type progams and "give away" programs do not stimulate job growth. Rather, it motivates lazy people to search for ways to abuse the intent of the system, sucking a huge amount of money out of the pockets of working taxpayers. Eliminate those programs and those people will be forced to take the jobs that illegals would do. This should give people incentive to better their lot in life with honest work instead of scamming those who play by the rules.
i blame no one but the blue dogs for this because they should never compromise the stimulus package..they are waisting job creation in this country..all americans needs jobs now..the illegal aliens don't have proper certification to work but all u.s. citizens have to verify where do they live and so forth..end this crap and give all u.s. citizens needs jobs now or else we are definetly screwed.
It means that it is time to move out of the country or have a revolution. I was just laid off on Wednesday. The illegals are taking most of what we would consider summer and second jobs. In addition, they are taxing our welfare and social services here in Cape May County. For one penny of a stimulus to go to illegals via welfare, unemployment, social security, or more jobs would be the beginning of the colapse of our country. We are bailing out the wrong people! I had 1 hour sleep last night due to the financial burden, stress, and health problems. Yet bankers, Madoffs, AIG's, Citigroup, illegals, and others are sleeping well tonight. This country has become a cesspool!
Wildwood Crest, NJ
It doesn't mean a thing! Up to 300,000, could actually be 150,000 or 50,000 or 5. This is just a number that someone pulled out of thin air and nobody will ever know the actual number. The person who originally made up this estimate, intended to turn public opinion against the stimulous plan simply by speculating on a possible negative out come. That person was smart, it seems to be working.
Mountain Home ID
It means they will pay taxes; work hard and purchase from businesses where they live. The optimum would be that all the jobs would go to citizens. The reality is that many Americans would rather sit on their butts than give an employer a good days work. This is a catch 22 if there ever was one.
It means they can feed their families.
It probably means there are 300,000 undesirable jobs that Americans aren't willing to do.
It means that the employers of these illegal aliens should be fined and/or barred from any future contracts that involve stimulus money. This money is meant to create American jobs for American citizens. I know the mindset is hire cheap and there will be more money for me, but this has to come to an end. It's time to enforce some laws to put this illegal hiring to help the bottom line out practice to an end.
This sounds like something Lou Dobbs might have a heart attack about. But the reality is that I truly doubt any undocumented alien is going to find employment in any of these packages. If it isn't a law already, it is easy enough to pass a bill through Congress making every employee check and double check every worker's credentials. No one in Congress would dare vote against it.
This isnt the only problem with Obamas phoney plan any wind mills will be made in other countrys no work for american there either .Jack stop him if tou can
Our country is messed up, plain and simple. Illegal aliens will get these construction jobs paid for by our stimulus package because the construction owners want to gain as much money as possible by using cheaper labor. Our government needs illegal immigrants and the American citizens are left out. If our government really cared, they wouldn't let illegal aliens use our taxpayer money to provide them with free health care and education while they gain money in the USA and ship it back to their home country. American taxpayers foot their bill, while they pay nothing and take out U.S money and ship it to their country.
How can I become an illegal immigrant in the USA and get a free ride?
It probably means all Americans should get down on their knees and thank Bush for not dealing with the issue.
It means that the Democrats are in bed with big business as much as their Republican counterparts! None of them will be satisfied until we are a third world country ourselves, and begging for scraps from the government that took a oath to look out for our interests. Just disgusting!
It means the few of us left that have jobs are supporting people that break the law.
Why don't you all publish the names of the companies that employ the illegals and let US boycott them? We don't know who these companies are, and there are no journalists left that will help the people of THIS country.
That we are so messed up as a country that there may NOT be a path back to some sort of sanity.
It is time for Americans to take care of Americans Jack. And those bankers and Wall Street fools are NOT included in the definition...
The NRA's will design the roads and the Illegals will build them.
I just hope they build shelters under all the bridges so US Citizens have a place to live.
Can the States and Cities require contractors using stimulus money to use E-Verify? Strange as it sounds I rather be paying American citizens and legal immigrants with stimulus money.
The key words are "conservative think tanks" (an oxymoron if I ever heard one) and "could". I wish I could sit around all day and make up things that have no basis or truth, and get paid for it! The "conservative " element in this country has got us into the situation we are in now with deregulation and their "I got mine, the rest can go to blazes" mantra. 8 years of listening to this drivell is quite enough.
Again, the republicans are fighting to give away our money to people who don't even pay taxes. When are we going to put a stop to these people who don't truly represent the American people? Is it going to take an all out revolution before the message gets through – I do believe it will!
Through the use of simple math, it means that 300,000 unemployed U.S. citizens will not be able to get stimulus jobs because they job they should have got was taken away from them.
But, why ask us about this? Go ask one of the politicians who supported the stimulus bill. And, really press them on the fact that any stimulus job that goes to an illegal alien is one that was taken away from a U.S. citizen.
It means many Americans don't realize that illegals are taking more than just gardening jobs that we won't do. They are taking higher paying jobs that we could definitely use right now.
It means that greed will once again prevail.
The businesses and states that allow this to happen should be
prosecuted and stripped of all stimulous funds. Americans are
NOW willing to take any job they can find and they must get first
priority on all that is offered.
Jack – maybe it means that there are 300,000 Americans too lazy to take those jobs.
It means that Congress once more has ripped off the American people. I'm surprised that President Obama didn't say anything, but perhaps getting the bill passed was such an accomplishment that it was an oversight.
However, I think an Executive Order calling for any company using Stimulus money that is caught using illegal aliens to forfeit their funds AND PAY THEM BACK WITH INTEREST might just discourage this.
Just great ! My ancestors got here around 1665 and I've been trying to get a job since last July !
A nonpartisan think-tank upon which I greatly rely shows that this is all a bunch of bunk. Such comments are pure speculation. Even if ONE illegal immigrant benefis,, what does it matter if 4 million become employed?
One word: Bogus
Landscape firms and golf courses are not getting stimulus money and few new homes are being built. Lots of companies have already lowered levels temporary works. Last employment line of 600 for small grocery store had lots of different folks but not one whose native language was Spanish.
Republicans have become the party of "No Can Do".
It means that we ,the U.S. citizen,are continuing to be totally screwed over by the government and business. They are all morally bankrupt.
IT MEANS NOTHING IS NEW...though I respect President Obama and am a avid supporter, Until we close our borders, stop giving assistance to non – Citizens though public aid, and free health care, granting automatic business loans, yet not enforcing or requiring employers to screen applicants for citizenship merely means the jobs will go to the person who will accept the lowest salary, the illegal alien, which means business as usual.
I wouldn't have too much of a problem if those jobs involved serving our country in the military, which could fast-track their immigration status to a legal status. But I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon so therefore; it means that I will have to change my ethnic status during the next census, to get a job.
It means that we do not have elected officials in congress who brains or guts to stand up for the U.S. citizens. the children of this country may not have a country to call their own because our leaders and big business are giving our country away, it seems that everyone from the out side comes first before a natural citizen and the joke is that we should not be called the land of immigrants which is the excuse that the liberal side keeps saying.
It means that once again these people are making suckers out of all of us. They get free everything and we as taxpayers foot the bill. Frankly, I'm sick of this and the growing laundry list of injustices against hard working middle class Americans. The rich are bleeding us dry and the poor are sucking up what's left. We're trapped in the middle with nothing Jack. I'm making plans to relocate to Vancouver, Canada just over the U.S. border. Enough is enough.
It means this country is in bigger trouble then we thought!
I have been an Obama supporter since day one but this is SO WRONG! How can you create jobs and then give them away to people who are here illegaly.
Aren't these jobs being created by funds from the US Taxpayers?
How can this president and this congress justify giving these jobs to people who do not deserve them. Illegal Aliens are law breakers.
They should be sent back where they come from or imprisoned but they should never be given jobs created for American citizens.
Obviously it means that Obama doesn't care about Americans as first priority to get jobs. Why would me as a texpayer have to support an illegal alien. Other presidents , like Pres Eisenhoweer, shipped out illegals back to Mexico so that the returning Korean veterans could have jobs, I don't understand why Obama can not follow suit and do the same.
CNN and the press needs to be more aggressive on these issues and report what is right and wrong with this country and it's politicians. CNN must not always protect the left and criticize the right. At least that's what the average American sees and hears. Report what is correct for the well being of this country, forget the politically correct bull sxxx.
Campel Brown Reports "No bias No Bull", sometimes it's "Bias and Bull", even though she tries very hard to be fair.
If the data is from two conservative think tanks, it means that you should check other sources to verify these "facts". Period.
What part of "illegal" doesn't the Senate get? Well, next time my Senators are up for re-election they can count on my vote - for their opponents.
Are you kidding me? Two "conservative think tanks" GUESS that non-citizens may get employed by stimulus money and that is news? Did those same "think tanks" argue against the stimulus bill to begin with? It doesn't mean anything to me. I have yet to meet an American who really had his job "taken" by an "illegal alien." I have met hundreds of employers who cannot get Americans to work for them at competitive wages.
Since we have a 'consumer-driven' economy, it doesn't make sense that government should be picking winning sectors and processing incentives through an enlarging 'sponge' known as bureaucracy.
A 'matching rebate' strategy to engage consumers could be far less expensive and a more efficient strategy to achieve desired results for a broad cross-section of US industry and preferred trading partners.
Every business sector has similar spin-off benefits to banking, auto manufacturing and construction, and consumers might make more appropriate and fairer choices than what appears evident so far.
Giving consumers such power could quickly increase confidence.
The oft-quoted figure of 12 million illegal immigrants living in the US is grossly wrong. The actual figure is closer to 30 million, or about 10 percent of the population. Most of them aren't going anywhere, so I would expect the same proportion of stimulus jobs, or about 200,000, to go to the "undocumented."
It means that approx. 300k illegal aliens will get jobs that should go to legal citizens of the USA. When are our lawmakers going to start working for the people that elect them? The answer is not until we the people let them know that they will not get our vote when they come up for re-election. Then we must vote in lawmakers who will work on behalf of the legal voting taxpayers. They do not believe that we will vote them out of office, I think they may soon be in for the surprise of their lives.
St. Augustine, Fl
Cafferty doesn't exactly sound like an American Indian name, I am surprised that you are beating this immigrant drum. Immigrants, legal or illegal, from slavery to current, have been used to do the jobs American won't do. The haves will always exploit those who have not. Why not blame the businesses who eploit these people to boost their profit margin, blame Americans who would rather play X-Box than mow lawn in 80 degree weather. So much easier to blame immigrants for the world problems, rather that look at ourselves.
American tax paying citizens are paying for the stimulis package. All the jobs it creates should go to back to supporting them only. Most of the money these illegals make goes back to Mexico. Non of it goes back into the US Treasury. Instead of giving away money to illegals who have no right to be in our country let's use it to hire more boarder guards to keep them out.
To begin , the Senate needs to be called on the piece that they left out of the Bill. Then, we must consider the source of these studies- validity, sample source, and references? Then- it is not that they will take these jobs but ' they could'! This may be a little incendiary even for you- who usually has his facts straight!
It appears that this is more conservative distraction and obfuscation and based on thin air and not hard evidence!
However, if proved true , it would be an outrage to be laid at the feet of the Senate and not the Obama administration!
Jack: You said it all when you quoted a think tank. They all think they are experts. "That's an unknown drip under pressure."
It means it is time to stop all of this third party hiring where the buck is passed when it comes to accountability and responsibility. When you see illegal aliens rounded up on military bases that were hired by outsourced third parties and we have thousands of veterans that need work, our hiring polices are out of control and needs to be stopped especially when it comes to taxpayer money. The whole thing sickens me.
Why aren't we trying to overturn the salaries and benefits that congress and the senate get without paying one cent into Social Security. For example, Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives may expect to draw $7, 800,000.00, with their wives drawing $275, 000.00 during the last years of their lives.
Yes they serve our country, but does that mean that they should receive these outrageous salaries and benefits after they leave office. Where does it say that they deserve more than any average American after they loose their job.
Think of the billions we can save if we treat these individuals the same as everyone else in America and they start paying for the free ride to excessive wealth.
How can we get this waste stopped. I am sure my congressmen in Alabama won't support this.
It means yet another Republican President screwed up;
Ronald Reagan's 1986 Immigration and Reform Control Act blanket amnesty for an estimated 2.7 million illegal aliens.
Reagan's gift that keeps on giving!
Won't mean one damn thing to me. As a responsible, tax paying citizen who pays his bills on time and never abuses credit, I'll be one who gets not one dime from all this stimulous stuff.....I'll be the guy who pays when my taxes go up. I'll be the one whose savings deteriorates as inflation rises. I'll be the one whose home value decline as the irresponsible chip away at the foundation of middle class values. As always.
Jack, we need to make the employers responsible, they hire them, they need to verify their status, I do, whenever I hire an individual they must complete their 9 and show proof of residency and license.
This is the only way we can curb this problem.
It means there will be fewer families going hungry in Honduras, Mexico, El Salvador, etc..
You may have noticed this is a small planet. You may have noticed we are a small percentage of humanity. You may have noticed that we gobble up the majority of finite resources. If we hope to drop the "Ugly American" image, let's quit whining in front of the third world about how tough we've got it and grow up.
It means that Democrats finally found a deceptive way to put the screws to Americans by defying the will of the people to enforce immigration laws and thereby attempt to back door citizenship for these 'illegal alien' squatters. If they think we all are completely distracted by the unattended economic problems, they are dead wrong.
Just another step towards realizing that Barack Obama is not presidential material. He won a popularity contest and is not making decisions in the interest of the United States. The stock market continues to deteriorate, businesses are failing, house values tumbling, and Obama wants illegals to get jobs that Americans can do. The only question is this: When will the media and those on the left start to admit he's in over his head?
You have to realize that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid believe that THEY are running the country. If President Obama doesn't step in and crush them, they will crush him. If President Obama doesn't start to act in the interest of the USA, he won't last long.
Jack you may want to include us Canadians.
We have already infiltrated places of power in your country. Ultra-liberal anchorman Peter Jennings was Canadian. Saturday Night Live producer Lorne Michaels is Canadian. The director of the biggest-grossing movie of all time, Titanic, James Cameron, is Canadian. Jeopardy host Alex Trebek is Canadian. Most shocking of all, Pamela Anderson is also Canadian.
We Canadians might seem harmless but some of the GOP think we have dangerous liberal ideas. Canada, after all, is a country that has socialized medicine.
It means obama is a lot like bush 43.
What does it mean if up to 300,000 illegal aliens get jobs created by the economic stimulus package?
Why blame congress for government contractors not using the e-verify? All the government is interested in is getting the most done for the least amount of tax dollars and turns a blind eye as to who is getting it done.
BTW: What again did the GOP do about illegal immigration over the past 8 years? NADA!
So if 300K illegal immigrants circumvent the system and we allow it to happen then we have no one to blame but ourselves.
If I was running the show I would take away government contracts for a minimum of 10 years for companies that don't verify their employees work status. And I would not allow any piece to be "subcontracted" out – unless the subcontractor could prove their folks are approved to work – and if the subcontractor failed they would both loose their government contracts for 10 years!
As long as American citizens can apply for the same jobs, I don't see anything wrong with giving work to the illegal aliens. Perhaps if they have work and an income, they won't be tempted to participate in other illegal activities.
If people think the pay isn't good enough and won't accept the job...its their loss...there is always someone hungry or cold enough that will take the job . America was built on the backs of immigrants. Possibly your parents or theirs. I'm smart enough to know that employers will hire the cheapest labor they can find. The dollar is the bottom line. That's what capitalism is all about.
Jack, there are some parts of the stimulus package debate that are just nit-picky: who cares if pig manure is studied in Iowa as long as the guys studying it are paying their mortgages and buying a car with their salaries?
This ain't one of them, though. Every cent of this stimulus needs to go to bona fide taxpaying Americans who are in trouble right here. They expect no less from their government, and every one of us, their fellow citizens, should stand behind them.
And this money absolutely needs to stay in this country, not be taken across the border to pay bills in Mexico. Times are hard there, too, but they've got their own government to worry about their problems.
I predict that this loophole will be plugged with some fast legislation. In fact, it better be: this kind of stuff looks quite a bit like the previous administration's stuff.
It means 300,000 americna citizens are still out of a job
Figures. The companies do not want to pay we, Americans a decent wage. I am sorry but we need the jobs and they need to go back home and take siestas.
It means that millions of citizens of this country are getting screwed out of jobs that should go to them! People have a hard enough time finding a job now, and illegals should not be able to take them away from us.
Its not unusual for "USA Today" to have such a fear-mongering-article, since the newspaper is clearly a conservative-mouth-piece. Of course, they are free to say what they want.
Honestly, someone with some credibility should look at this issue and report back to us.
When I read "two conservative think tanks show that illegal aliens could take 300,000 new construction jobs......." That was enough for me to know that this is a *** new ploy*** by the GOP to oppose and criticize Obama!
Also, there are plenty of construction jobs, that American citizens do not want to do. Such as hauling broken cement, its a dirty hard job. Those lowly jobs are usually not wanted by our "superior race."
It means the same as it always does, We The People get screwed
It means Jack, that California will continue to dip into the red ink if they can't clean-up their own backyard. There's a common denominator here for the border states that are having more serious financial problems that other states.
We're still dealing with the 'good ole boys' club' Jack. These business men and politicians are busy stuffing their own pockets and each other's.
it don't bother me none. A man or woman who wants the work and takes the job and does a good job and uses the money earned to take care of family. So, Nu? Unless you are Lou Dobbs, what's not to like?
A good many of my fellow US citizens, especially the younger ones, are not willing to take entry level jobs or jobs that involve sweat and blisters.
Immigrant labor made America and will again. What's wanted are laws to protect the equal rights of workers rather than laws that restrict where the where comes from.
You know, Jack; fair competition on a level playing field? It's one of those conservative values Dobbsy and the conservatives claim to believe in.
in Arlington Texas
What do you mean, "What does it mean'?....the thought of all those people who have never registered, voted or payed taxes getting tax payers backed jobs is disgusting!
I'm glad my tax dollars, up here just go to pay for regular welfare bums.
The government needs to be certain that E-verify is working – either validate its current operation or fix it.
Provide a 1-800 number that employers and prospective employees can use to follow up on any issues.
Then use it.
The current system may be kind to the poor from other countries, but It is grossly unfair to our own poor or unemployed.
It means the Washington power brokers have found 1 more way to sell out the American worker. If this 300,000 figure is even close, every damn state that has given these jobs to illegal workers should impeach their governor. Barak Obama should be made to address the nation and state publicly that these illegal workers will be rounded-up and deported back to their country – or he should be impeached, too. Stimulus jobs going to illegal workers illegally in this country should not be tolerated by any American citizen that can still walk and breathe!
We must be insane, not only are the jobs going overseas but most of the products we would buy would be from other countries.
We need a serious BUY AMERICAN effort in this country.
You say this report came from two "Conservative Think Tanks"? Have you heard the term oxymoron?
It means that the corporations have the upper hand and are doing everything possible to break unions and the American worker. We are on track to becoming a third world country and our government is allowing it. Soon, though, the corporations will find it difficult to sell their products because no one will be able to afford them.
Just another stimulus for everyone except those who are paying for it.
Change? Sounds more like loose change to me....
Thats ok- but we need put in a regulation first....the employers who want to hire these illegals must pay a fine to the US Govt equivalent to what they would've paid at minimum wage to a legal american employee for that job.
it shows you how stupid the public is and we are paying for it
It means pandering for the Latino vote is more important then doing what's right for the country. This country was built and made great by legal immigrants. It should always be a beacon for legal immigration. Rewarding people who are cheating the system with borrowed taxpayer money isn't just wrong it's downright insulting.
I think this is being overblown by those who continually try to use fear to forward their agenda rather than common sense. This is coming from the same people who don't want to help all home owners with their mortgages because there may be some homeowners that don't deserve help. Imagine if the Coast Guard refused to help a sinking ship because there may be some stow aways on board. "Folks this is your Coast Guard Captain, We're going to have to let all of you drowned because there are a few people on board who don't deserve to get rescued, Have a good day."
The answer seems pretty simple to me. It means 300,000 legal residents will continue drawing unemployment checks from our government while illegals will send more money home to Mexico.
Herein lies the problem with these two studies.....Conservative Think Tank. Dissing Obama ,"baby", Dissing Obama. Enougn said
It would be ok by me if these illegal aliens were given the opportunity to pay a fine and legalize their status in order for them to pay their taxes. I think if you want a job you have to be legal first..so will Congress and the Senate get it together and sign a bill with these provisions, please. The GOP needs to stop saying no no no and submit a plan of their own. People, it's the economy stupid!
I am outraged by this, Jack. It's another case of an administration too absorbed with it's own social agenda and not keeping its eye on the ball.
We have the technology to keep this from happening but lack the national resolve to do so. Now, 300,000 unemployed Americans (natural-born and/or otherwise legally here) will continue to go unemployed. How hard would it have been to slip in an amendment in the bail-out bill to ban using bail-out money for illegals? Duh!
On the bright side, though, I guess we can be sure that the 25 police officers whose jobs were saved were citizens. Of course, the President only spent a few hundred thousand of our money to fly there and congratulate himself. All the while, the stock market was again tanking and the Labor Department wqas announcing another 500,000 in layoffs. (All that was missing in Columbius was a "Mission Accomplished" banner)
It would seem to me that if these illegal aliens contributed taxes to the economy they should be allowed to be part of the stimulus package, but after the citizens who paid taxes have had the chance.
So what are you saying Jack......that we shouldn't try to stimulate the economy because there might be some "illegal" workers that get their hands on some of the money? We should let the whole country go down the tubes just to make sure none of those darned "illiegals" benefit? Get real......the stimulus is greatly needed, and if some of the money falls through the cracks, oh well......that's better than watching the whole country go down.
Yep, why is anyone surprised.Our Congress and their denial caused
the Wall Street crash supported by a sound asleep SEC and now this
mess with OUR money.Its a sorry state of affairs and I am deeply sorry for all the mom's and dad's out there who are paying an awful price just barely making it.No I am not at all surprised that our government would make sure that the people that did and do the right thing get the least.
There was a time in the not to distant past that illegal aliens were welcomed because they did the work us arrogant Americans would not do.
Have we lost that arrogance and are willing to do any work now?
I doubt if we are there yet. When I see an unemployed investment banker hauling cement blocks up a scaffold, we will know that as a culture we have evolved from the false pride that still holds us down.
It means 300,000. U.S. citizens will be without a job because of illegal aliens. That is simply not fair and something more needs to be done to keep them from getting them. Especially now with the recession/depression. Look how many U.S. Citizens that can't find a job!!!
3/4's of the work force where I work, are nationals of other nations from all over the globe. The reason they get the jobs is because they can work for less money then many natural born citizens. I am not sure why this company hired me and at the pay they hired me for, but I am grateful. Is it right that they hire a such an under-payed level? I don't know. I do understand. They have to compete in a very competitive market and have to keep the prices down. They just laid off a group of people because the work load has dropped through no fault of their own. What alternative does a company have in this market?
It means that the information came from "conservative" think tanks. The same ones that Bush listened to and the same ones that were wrong about everything. I'm not saying that illegals won't work on some projects nor that we shouldn't be careful to e-verify, just that conservatives have a long track record of bringing up these stupid issues to distract people and make the dems look bad. They especially are over-critical of everything Obama. So, until we have solid facts, we shouldn't get our panties in a bunch over this.
When I was 19, I was standing with a group of college friends at the United Nations. We happened to notice an entourage consisting of about men dressed in white robes and gorgeous headdress and one appeared to be more important that the others and probably the Sheik and we guessed all were from the middle East. Young girls at 19 were completely awed by such gorgeous men. We went on about our business of waiting in line.
A few minutes later, I felt a tap on my shoulder and saw all of my friends turning to stone. I turned around to have one of those gorgeous men talking to me. He was awesome. He told me that the Sheik would like to take me home with him and I would be his favorite wife. I expressed my appreciation for his gracious officer and told him I wanted to finish college first.
Today, for the first time, I wish I had taken the offer. The Senate has chosen to not include e-Verify in the bill going to the President on hiring of employees under the stimulus bill which means a good percentage of that money will NOT stay in the United States.
It doesn't matter who the Sheik was or where he wanted to take me to live, today he looks mighty good and I wish I had gone. My country is no longer the United States of America where we used to put Americans first. It used to pay to be a citizen of this great country. Too bad I didn't stay young forever and too bad I didn't get his address. It seems like everyday it gets a little worse and the hope for a rainbow is gradually disappearing.
Jack, in your inimatiable fashion, you as a question wherein you act like this is someing President Obama shoul have taken care of in his first, what, 60 days in office when it could have, and should have been taken care of during the past 8 years - and can't each state enact its own regulation - ??? And for the Senate Republicans to strip this "E-Verify" stipulation from the stimulis bill is unconsionable and typical of
Rush Limbauh's republican suck-ups - The only thing that has kept something like this from becoming law is pure GREED - Got to make an extra buck off the back of some illegal by paying slave wages -–
Don't think this is going to happen!!!! Check e-verify!
If true, it would be an absolute disgrace to all Americans and to our great country. Why should non-Americans get hired before those of us who support and salute our flag? If this happens, you will see many turn against teh democratic party and Obama.
Jack, I believe you are as upset as any American should be. Lou Dobbs has reported that e-verfy has been succesful 99.6% when used. This program works. Why the Obama administration is putting this off is beyond any reasonable thinking person. Illegal immigrants is todays business, not last year or the year before that. What it means? The Obama administration is pushing programs that keeps their supporters and delaying ones that could alienate them. Why would President Obama sign an executive order to use federal money for stem cell research and delay e-verify? One program gains votes, stem cell...not sure if anything will come of it, the other, loses votes, e-verify...it works. Go figure!!
I thought these "conservatives" wanted to deregulate everything and let the market take care of all things commerce related. What gives?
And the Democrats and corporate sponsored Republicans want to kill e-verify!
With this type of lack of leadership it is really a surpise that America has lasted this long!
Rich Monk, Carlsbad, San Diego, Ca.
Jack, you sound surprised that this is happening. I'm aghast that the number is so low due to the way our country works, greed first and my fellow American 4th or 5th down the list. Welcome to life in the country of the people, by the people, and for the people who are not citizens and don't pay taxes.
It is shameful. I blame the business owners, they are the ones that want the cheap labor, maybe a hard working American taxpayer would like that job and would also be willing to take the job for less money.
Something is better than nothing. Congress should be ashamed of themselves for not doing everything possible to put an American citizen to work first.
47% of America did not vote for this. I hope America can survive the next 4 years. I reckon it won't be long before it all comes to a head.
On the other hand. If we all have no problem being screwed by DC, then I reckon we have it coming.
Conservative think tanks? Really? I would certainly take their statistics with a big grain of salt. They probably have statistics that show smoking is not harmful, that global warming is a hoax, and that Norm Coleman really won.
why am I not suprised, Jack?
they get medicaid healthcare, welfare, food stamps and, in some states, unemployment on the taxpayers dime. meanwhile they scab American jobs esp in construction, meat packing and the restaurant-hotel industry, which is a HUGE problem here in the Las Vegas area. also many work "off the book" and pay NO taxes.
meanwhile, Hispanic special interest groups like LULAC and La Raza scream "discrimination" when ever the subject of illegal workers comes up BUT it's Hispanic American CITIZENS and LEGAL workers that are damaged most by these moochers. the ONLY people that benefit from their labor are the corporate exploiters.
I sure don't know WHY the Democrates are delaying E-verify. last time I checked, illegal aliens CAN'T VOTE.
When 300,000 "Illegal Aliens" get work directly from the stimulus package it proves without a shadow of doubt that America can not function on it's own and the (NAU) is not far away.
what if you stopped alllegal immigration and cancelled all hb visas and got after illegal immigrants how many jobs would you create
E-verify should be mandatory for any employer, no exceptions. We're having enough trouble helping Americans. Legal immigrants are welcome , this is a nation of immigrants, but illegal is illegal. If we don't start protecting our border, we may soon have a war in this country with the drug cartels. Wanting the hispanic vote is no excuse for inaction!
Construction jobs are the primary method used to reduce unemployment and boost the failing economy. A major employer of immigrants, both legal and illegal, is the construction industry. It means that boosting the failing economy will not have its full desired effect.
No speaky English No jobs.
Jack, Jack, Jack - you are totally discounting the fact the the sources for these so-called "estimates" are two conservative "think tanks," not an independent source. These guys are not interested in reality, but in trying to politicize the entire stimulus effort. They are famous for ginning up ideologically-based estimates and conjecture without any scientific basis. What is the source of the "facts" on which their estimates were based? Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity?
Jack, I'm sick and tired of hearing about illegal immigrants. The solution to this issue is simple. The Feds should punish employers who utiilze these people for cheap labor. If you cut off the economic incentives for people to sneak across the border illegally (stiff fines for employers who break the law), then we wouldn't have this problem. I'm tired of the racism and vitriol directed towards illegal immigrants. This is an economic problem created by businesses who are desperate for cheap labor. Not a problem caused by "free-loading illegals."
It means that any Senator who voted for not using E-Verify should not be returned to Washington. Let them be out of work like so many of their constituents while illegal immigrants are being rewarded for breaking the law and taking jobs away from Americans during this fiscal crisis. If Obama continues to allow bills like this to pass,he will be a one term President. He campaigned against all of this nonsense. Let him put his actions where his campaign promises were.
Jack this is gonna get ugly if the Obama administration doesn't address this issue and soon. Citizens are losing their homes,their health care, and their kids are goin hungry because of this economy and mark my words shots are gonna be fired if jobs keep going to cheap illegal labor.
My God! I think Lou Dobbs will go ballistic on this one. It be wise CNN have a medic on hand, the heart can take only so much.
Seriously, in good times when American's had jobs and could take care of their family, there was some grumbling over illegals. Millions have lost their jobs, and now things could get ugly.
This means that the average legal citizen who needs a job won't get one because we are once again "gearing" the money to illegals. What happened to E-Verify and the requirement to only hire LEGAL CITIZENS? If this truly will go to all of those ILLEGALS, it will definately not help America.
First, one would have to ask this question, Are the illegal immigrants getting jobs they would have anyway because there are no American workers to fill them? If not, then employers should be verifying that all workers are US citizens.
A lot of the complaint about aliens is that they do not work. This 'stimulus' package will prove that it just isn't the aliens – it is so very many of us who are currently either unemployed or under-employed.
With jobs, perhaps all the claims about their being 'drags' on our healthcare and education systems will drop off, especially if they're given jobs at decent wages . We had the very same thing to say when we kept former slaves from getting jobs, too.
I've heard the other side of the story too. Employers want immigrant labor to wash dishes and cook. No one else will even consider working under such horrible conditions.
it simply means the goverment will stick it to the american workers again!
Maybe we can add a bunch of jobs to the economy by hiring 500,000 unemployed people to finish building the border fence between Mexico and the USA –
Then, after they are hired begin hiring and swearing another 500,000 people in as "assistant deputy federal marshals" and have them "assist" in tracking down the 11,000,000 + illegals and deporting them - AND their families - Don't put them in detention, just escort them to the boarder the day they are found and let 'em go -- Or, maybe just put a bounty on each illegal delivered to the USA Mexican border ???
Between eliminating the 11 million + illegals and the 1 million temporary marshals and fence builders (see below) we should have a net gain of up to 12 million jobs by year's end -
Of course it would also create a whole passel of lawyer and social worker jobs too - More jobs - No money being sent to Mexico - helps our economy - The list just goes on and on --
RB Knoxville TN
It means that someone has not got the message to the government and businesses that we are in a recession and US citizens get the jobs picks first. The illegal aliens need to wait in line until all the vacancies are first filled with US citizens. If there are still vacancies not filled then the undocumented person can try for the job.
It means we're stupid!
Simple. It means that illegal aliens continue to rape our education system, take our jobs, utilize our health care system while sticking it to the taxpaying LEGAL citizens of our country. Ship 'em back to where they came from. It is time to take care of business at home!
Well why did Congress not include this in the bill that all employers must participate in E-Verify? Becaause their friends and contributors are looking for cheap labor. It is time for Mr. Obama to keep at least one of his promises.
Somebody has to do some labor if the stimulus package is to work. If 300,000 illegal aliens can work and help turn this mess around, that is better than no progress. Then again if 300,000 illegal aliens can do this, it makes us very vulnerable to almost anything.
I don't buy it Jack!
I bet the government can tell me what I had for breakfast this morning, if the decided to investigate me and people are trying to say there is no way to tell if stimulis jobs are goingt to illegal aliens or not? Give me a break!
THIS WOULD BE THE LAST STRAW TO SHOVE ON AMERICAN CITIZENS. OBAMA IS GOING TO START A WAR ON AMERICAN SOIL. JUST WATCH. IT WILL BE A DISASTER FOR AMERICAN CITIZENS.
That cannot be blamed on Obama! "Illegals" have been streaming into this country...unimpeded...since before I was born, in 1944! They are firmly entrenched, have false identifications, and many have children who were born in this country. If Americans paid more attention to important things, such as the undermining of our borders and immigration laws...instead of the RBI's among the Yankees and Dodgers...this issue would not be cause for concern, now.
It means that we have one president, one vice president, nine Supreme Court justices’, 435 members of the people’s House and 100 US senators.
That’s 546 people responsible for forcing 310 million Americans into the proverbial soup line with their care-less attitude, love of lobbyists and special interest groups who contribute to the poliaticos' bottom $ line!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH kick the bums out!!!!
No body ever said that the illegals were part of the economic problem, but now, it is becoming a reality. By those folks not paying into out tax-base, and sending all their money back to Mexico (instead of spending it here in the U.S.), along with shipping other jobs overseas to OTHER immigrants, the middle class are getting the pineapple twice. The business along wtih some Republicans really don't care about the middle-class. It is all about the rick getting richer, and the rest of us being trickled-down on.
It is a great idea. The opportunity would be that Mexican food restaurants in the US will have a surge of new clients. In turn, the surge will create new jobs in the Mexican food sector, taco and burrito food suppliers will get more orders, which in turn will help to stabilize the deficits in State and Fed tax revenues.
Employers have been actively and knowingly discriminating against American citizens for as long as I have been in the labor force (mid '70s) The first factories I worked in were loaded with Mexican nationals, and then the factory owner closed up shop and moved to the southern side of the border. Since then I have worked in kitchens that systematically hired foriegn nationals and fired Americans. Yet whaen I comment on what I have seen and experienced throughout I am treated as if I am the one that is a racist or bigot. At every job there is a sign that notifies employees of their rights against employer discrimination of race, religion, creed, color, and national origin. But the discrimination is blatant against American citizens white black and brown. I have had it. And I will not stand being called a racist just for wanting a job in my own country.
Any CONTRACTOR hiring illegal aliens Should be prosecuted to the fulliest extent of the law including jail time. Now this should put a dent in the illegal hiring problem.
If more jobs aren't made available to legal US citizens, it means that my husband who recently took a 30% pay cut to hold onto his job, our daughter who just had her hours cut to part time, and our grandson who lost his job and is now only working part time at another job, could likely all end up with even fewer hours and smaller paychecks........or no paychecks at all.
How do we get some faster action on the E-verify program? I've written our senators and representatives, and have not had one response – don't they care at all?
It means CNN might want to have paramedics on site tonight in case Lou Dobbs has a seizure or actually explodes on live television during his "broken borders" segment. And this is something everyone should be worked up about.
I'm an e-verify fan, Jack. I feel that jobs should be going only to people that are legally in this country–no exceptions!!! To me this happening in the stimulous plan isn't any different than the corpoartions actually out-sourcing jobs out of this country – infact, it's worse. Very disheartening & disgusting to me.
Conservative think tanks? Now that an oxymoron.
It means that illegal aliens, the result of, unscrupulous employers not willing to play by the rules will be able to finance their families while more and more legal citizens move to tent cities. Perhaps our President might reconsider stepping up this priority.
When a person is determined to be an undocumented worker it should become the responibility of burden of proof to be on that worker. The truth is the undocumented worker and illeagle allein are one in the same. To protect the exception to the rule is unfair to thousands of AMERICANS and LEGAL Aleins who play by the rules. I've been in the construction business forty years and I've felt the strain they impose on the Quality of work. When America returns to enforcement of the laws the quality will improve and Wages Will Rise Again
It means that we are just beginning to see the many flaws of this gigantic spending sceme that was rushed through Congress and rammed down the throats of middle class working Americans. This bill is a disaster and it was irresponsible of our elected leaders not to allow more extensive debate to take place before passing it.
Jack, I am from European immigrant stock. My folks played by the rules and all that good stuff. But I've come to believe that we need a different immigration policy for our Canadian and Mexican friends simply because they ARE friends with whom we share borders. We can't treat them in the say way as we treat Bulgarian and Chinese immigrants for instance. It's not smart and, it's also not possible. So my answer is that I am not bothered in the least that 300,000 "illegals" will receive jobs because under a smarter immigration policy, they would not be "illegal."
It simply means that our elected officials are asleep at the wheel; Or, better still, stocking their future in the illegal immigrants votes.
Too much money is involved in the political system, and money always wins.
As long as they pay taxes and spend the money in this country instead of sending it out of the country I would have no major problems with this. Now of course we must expect the same of major corporations that get stimulus money – what a concept!.
The United States has helped other people to the point that now we have millions without jobs. We have given incentives to companies to move jobs overseas, we hire millions of illegal immigrants, and reserve jobs for people with green cards. This stimulus package should be used to help hurting Americans. It is time for us to take care of our own.
In all honesty, my personal observations with immigrant laborers are the folks I see here in upstate New York picking fruit in the orchards. What I see is that they are taking jobs that the vast majority of Americans turn their noses up at. We have become a society of individuals that want jobs, just not ones that are particularly difficult. I'm reminded of a line from the movie Caddyshack uttered by Chevy Chase, "The world needs ditch diggers Danny." The Character in the movie was absolutely correct, it just so happens that when we need them, we get them from Mexico!!
It means e-verify should be the law of the land. Period. There is no excuse possible for taking jobs from the millions of Americans who want and need them. CEO's who allow illegals to be hired should lose their federal contract money. and then go to jail immediately.
Word has it this is a global recession. All those illegal aliens will be doing work that no-one else wants to do at half it's real value. They'll send what they can back home to Mexico and Latin America to support their families. Is that any different than giving those countries foreign aid? And don't forget, this propaganda is coming from the same think tanks that propagated the lies that led us into the Iraq War. I'd trust my tax dollars to an illegal alien any day over a wall street banker.
It will mean 300,000 Americans won't have the job. It is totally asinine
to hire illegals before US citizens. If this happens everyone should vote to throw their bum out of office....
Giving jobs to illegal aliens shoud be against the law. Those jobs are for hard working Americans, The other thing that bites me is when these people come to America and refuse to speak English which is the official language of this great country. Going shoping in Houston, Texas, is like entering the tower of babel.
Well, if the stimulous money is going to be tracked, maybe we trace it right down to employers who are hiring these illegals, deport the workers and prosecute the employers – creating even more jobs for cops and lawyers!
It means that Congress remains spineless, even as our economy slides into a depression. Mexico is rapidly becoming an out-of-control failed state that presents an even larger risk to us than any terrorist threat, and still our government refuses to get tough and shut the border down. Mexicans don't care if they turn their own country into a nightmare, so why allow them access to our job market?
One would hope that the contractors who get the stimulus funding would be vigilant in their hiring practices to ensure new jobs go only to U.S. citizens. But they probably will not. For far too long, this nation has allowed business to put their own self-interest ahead of the public good. It will take more than just government regulation to ensure they do put America first however. Perhaps the media can remain vigilant and print the names of companies that hire illegal immigrants. Public ridicule can often be an effective weapon. But, one thing is sure, it will take more than just government regulation to keep them honest.
There's your change, hope it's what you wanted! I just love having my hard earned tax dollars stolen from me and give to people that shouldn't even be in this country. Face it, the only thing the congress and this new administration is interested in is their lobbyists and the banksters!
And another thing, I've got my birth certificate proving I was born an American citizen. I can produce it and show it to you in less than five minutes! Can the so called president say that? Sorry, I forgot about the fact that the DNC has spent 1.4 million dollars to seal all of Mr. Soetoros records including his KINDERGARTEN RECORDS for crying out loud! Gotta love that "transpanency" in this administration.
What a joke this country is turning into!
Fed up in Dearborn!
It means more of our tax dollars are being wasted. Politics as usual.
Is this a surprise? Do you expect the congress clowns to do something intelligent?
Jack in Florida
It means that there is a lack of government oversight and that American contractors will hire anyone as long as they can pay less for their labor.
It means that it is time for American workers and Legal Immigrants to draw the line and stand up for our rights as citizens. It is just plain wrong, wrong, wrong for our government and businesses to advocate for illegal immigration. Without universal use of E-verify and stiff fines and potential jail-time for offending employers, we law-abiding citizens are quadruply screwed. Not only do we not get the new jobs, the wages offered are undercut by cheap illegal labor. Illegal immigration increases, placing further strains upon our already overburdened social systems like health care and education. And national security is compromised.
If e-verify isn't working right, Then who speaks English should get the job. Still not sure if they are legal or American. But , what else or what other options have we if Americans need jobs in their own country.
It means I would seriously regret voting for Obama
One American job, paid for and by American tax payers, going to an "illegal" immigrant / alien, is one too many jobs being "insourced. Any employer getting caught using illegal workers should be required to return the money, and pay a stiff fine.
Jack, I for one, don't want to see this happen. There are too many Americans and legal immigrants who are out of work.
If someone would charge corporations and businesses fees for this we would not have this problem. Lets hold the Chamber of Commerce and Big Business responsible for this – they would rather have cheap labor.
it means business as usual.Whipsawing on a national level.
It means another example of government failure. E-verify is a good system and should have been left in the legislation.
Here's an idea...
How about the people that give out thousands of jobs to illegal immigrants get 5 years jail time automatically for doing so? I know its a harsh idea but those jobs need to go to Americans, not illegal aliens.
They will not get these jobs, this is just more hate mongering
by the Right Wing as usual. The figure is used to manipulate
the public to hate again!!
The government seems unable to understand the illegal immigrant situation. As long as explotative employeers get away with hiring illegals, we will have a continued influx and serious economic repercussions.
I'm not sure why, first Bush and now Obama, don't understand that porous borders facilitate terrorist & drug traffic – these alone justifiy establishing some semblance of Homeland Security by controlling the borders. It appears to many lobboyists for illegals are succeding in keepin the bordrs open.
Jack did you notice "USA Today reports that studies by TWO CONSERVATIVE THINK TANKS show illegal aliens could take 300,000 new construction jobs "
Any ideas of what is noticed that BAD.. something to UPSET the American People... comes from the CONSERVATIVE.. If we keept listening to them we will never get out of this mess. everyday they step up to mic... to be negative about al that is being proposed.. to me they are the reason the stock market stays down... all their negative comments..
To me it is not okay for illegal alliens to get the jobs we so badly need, but my understanding we were force by the conserative movement to buy CHINA... import instead of manufacturing.. what is the difference??
If they are illegal and do not pay taxes, then this is just flat out wrong. But remember, a lot of immigrants will do jobs that Americans will not or do not want to do. Maybe if our country did not have the love of money (after all money is not evil, the love of it is) as their first priorty then minimum wage would be set properly and everyone would do OK, not just the rich. Again, nothing wrong with being rich as long as you got it the right way. But most of us know how wealth came to a majority of the rich. And they are the first to fight for this so they can get bigger bonuses instead of paying Americans what they should.
It means that for some reason the COWARDS who have been running the country for the last 30 years have been too busy to notice that the entire nation of Mexico has hopped, skipped and jumped across our southern border. Why don't we just add Mexico as our 51st state now and get it over with?
Actually, it would be a refreshing change to have the stimulus money NOT go to corporate fat cats. But seriously, it just underlines the fact that there is a serious gap between what the illegal aliens would work for and what U.S. citizens would work for; union or not.
There is a true lack of fear of reprisal so why wouldn't these companies look for the cheapest help. I have a feeling these funds have the exact same amount of oversight as the TARP had; ZERO. So I wonder who Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi and those other finger pointing clowns are going to blame. Although they blamed Bush for the TARP being so loosely written, I distinctly remember fat Barney at the microphone asking all those House Republicans who voted against the TARP to come talk to him. Hmm..the blame game. Isn't it fun, Jack?
It means a couple of things. There are a lot of lazy Americans who would rather collect welfare than work, and there are greedy employers who would rather pay illegals less than American citizens. It is an ugly situation.
means we should just turn over in the grave we are digging for ourselves.
we need to e-verify these workers and give to our people legally here these jobs. our country has laws and we should follow them and if not then it turns to anarchy. this is my country I lived in california for almost 20 years its a mess from everything the police can't even check if you have insurance on your car cause that would be racist. fix my country that's why we get social security cards to be idenified as american.
I`m sorry ,my mistake, i thought this was Jack Cafferty`s blog, not Lou Dobb`s.
Jack: Social seurity numbers need to be checked. Contractor 's need to realize that a fine of $10,000.00 per person working illegally on government funded projects is possible. It adds up to $30 billion in fines.
John from Alabama
If illegal aliens get the jobs intented for American citizens we are not making progress on an issue I feel very strong about. Rhe federal government including Congress needs to understand the message that average Americans (and voters) have had it concerning illegal aliens. I continue to want strong enforcement of existing imagration laws. I do not want the taxes I pay to be used for illegal alien welfare type programs, I want my taxes used to directly help other American citizens that need and want help and are willing to work to receive the help from the government. Since many Republican money bags are from Texas maybe we should deport illegal aliens to Texas, since they should be able to affoed welfare programs for them.George Bush would like them all as friends.
Just more Republican scare tactics, and by the way, why didn't they do something to cure this problem? Let Rush take care of it for them, he is the only one with enough brass to open his mouth. I'll tell you what it is, they are all so afraid that the next election will wipe them out, and that is just what is about to happen.
Although I feel for anyone (regardless of race or place of origin) who is trying to support and feed their family. I do believe that in these dire economic times, our government has a duty to ensure that legal citizens of this country are taken care of first.
With so many Americans out of work and losing their homes, it's vital to our Country that any jobs created by a stimulis plan paid for with tax dollars go to Americans. Our government needs to take care of own first, before helping others.
Jack, how can you save someone from drowning when you yourself are drowning? You can't! You've got to save yourself first ,before you can save others.
That's a huge IF, Jack. Also check the source of that 300,000 figure.
If the feds would go after a couple of employers who hire illegals, you would find that this concern would go away.
San Clemente, Cal.
It means that we estimate in the wrong areas. What if the "experts" had estimated the number of crooks on wall street?
Its tough enough for American's right now. I'm sorry if your illegal you should not be able to get anything . If they are having a hard time Go back home. Business groups have screwed things up to be in their favor. There are plenty of people seeking work–HIRE AMERICAN
It means that politics and expediency will trump national sovereignty. Another reason you can kiss the USA goodbye...
The stimulus is for Americans and employers should be mandated to hire US workers. The incomes of illegals are spent some in the US but more is sent to another country. Everify should be mandated of every recipient and contractor to ensure our citizens
Beginning to sound like business as usual in the senate, when will the jerks we elected to office start looking out for the american people instead of the big lobbyist
Well let's see, English is not the official language, illegals, or undocumented or whatever you want to call them and be PC are taking our jobs, Mexican drug gangs are invading major US cities. I'd say we are getting change just as promised.
IF THE COMPANY HIRES THEM , PUT THE CEOS IN JAIL, AND FINE THE CEOS $100,OO0 FOR EACH PERSON HIRED, I THINK THE LAW IS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS, INFORCE THE LAWS, AND THEY WILL GO HOME
Jack, it means that both Democrats and Republicans over the years have dithered regarding the continual influx of illegals entering the country. It also means that past governments haven't asked the Mexican government, in particular, to provide the necessary social, economic and industrial infrastructure to ensure that it's citizens stay in their own country. The illegals are simply making the best of their situation as they can and are not the culprits when the real oversight belongs squarely on the broad shoulders of your elected representatives.
It could mean that the Immigration Service should hire more people to arrest and throw these illegals out of the country in the first place.
Just when you think the idiots in Washington have hit the rock bottom of political ineptitude, a story like this breaks.
What is the matter with you? Don't you know they take the jobs that Americans don't want? Oh wait, that isn't this administration. Nevermind.
It means Congress is full of idiots. Or did you want me to tell you something new?
In answer to your question Jack, it means that these 300,000 illegal aliens better have a surcharge tacked on to their payroll taxes every week. And it should be at least $100.00 a week in order to ensure that the illegal aliens help pay for the stimulous plan regardless of when they plan to leave the USA.
Geri – Mead, Ok
Wouldn't it be cheaper to give all the jobs to citizens and then 'convince' the Mexican president it would be best if he helped seal the border? When are the feds going to catch on to the fact that Mexico in particular, and all of Central America in general, are encouraging (and even helping) their citizens to come to the U.S. This is an invasion in slow motion.
Go figure Jack. Congress never resolves one problem before they mess up another one. I think 300,000 illegal aliens is way short of what will really happen. This stimulus packege spends real money this time. However, since nothing has been done to solve the illegal alien situation, who can count. Another boondogle by our elected officials in Washington DC at the expense of honest tax payers.
Two Rivers, WI
E-Verify is extremely effective. I can't believe the Senate took it out of the bill. It should definitely be put back in. This is disgusting.
It means the stimulus package is working. Oh, I forgot Obama was suppose to have completely elimated the illegal alien workforce already.
It means people will always hire someone for less. To solve the problem fine employers twice the salary paid. Unwatched opportunists, the cause of our current problems, past problems, and sadly as you have pointed out our future ones. We need an accurate federal database, big brother maybe scarry but unwatched business will bleed Bela Lugosi dry.
Jack, I just can't wait to see Lou's reaction to this.
Good! These people need to work as well as the rest of us and will spend money and stimulate the economy. Isn't that the point? You and Lou Dobbs and your ilk have been off the radar screen with your anti-immigrant bias. I'm sure you are glad to be back.
I sugguest all the people that are complaining about the hispanic community taking all of the jobs, go out to the strawberry fields or sit outside home depot and take the jobs back.... for the same wages.
This shouldn't surprise anybody out there...look at all the underbidding by immigrants before this economic mess. I live in South Dakota where our concerned Senator John Thune ( I say that with sarcasm) has already loaded news folks with the fact we shouldn't take any bail out money because we are a non-union, right to work state that wil not benefit from the stimulus package. With Looney Thune looking to make politics a career he will make sure the immigrants get the contracts in my state.
It means that we, the legal Americans have been screwed royally by our own government. It means that Americans don't matter for anything but a way to payback the unbelievable debt that the government got us into. Oh but wait, we won't be able to pay it back, cause we won't have jobs. Maybe Pelosi and Reid can pay it all back for us.
what a waste of air time. Jack. This is no news.Dont get lou dobbs going.He is mr.illegal immigration.
I prefer the term "undocumented workers" Jack. You're starting to sound like Lou Dobbs with your 'illegals' rhetoric.
If 300,000 undocumented workers do get jobs, then there will be 300,000 fewer undocumented workers at risk of doing something actually 'illegal' to support themselves and their families.
This is so sad, our own people are out of work losing their homes and here come the illegal’s taking what is our yet again. We are losing everything to other nations, and the Congress still want to shut out Americans to take care of them first and not us. I am not paying anymore dime of taxes in this country to take care of other nations!!
that more true blooded americans still will be out of a job. I feel if we send all the illegal aliens back to their country that would clear up 500,000 jobs..
Another example of our government NOT doing its job, or only doing
part of its job. Maybe we should only pay them for part of their earnings.
Give legal Americans jobs, first.
I'm pretty sure the E-Verify program was not only in the House version, but also in the Senate version of the stimulus bill. It was actually stripped out of the bill when it went to conference.
You need better researchers so you can get the facts straight on TV and not look so misinformed.
I'm from Miami,FL and I know for a fact that the most obvious majority of workers in ALL construction projects here are illegal. There is simply no way to beat the prices that they are willing to work for. If they keep overlooking these developers and their illegal workers how are we as hard working U.S. citizens supposed to be competitive?
It means our president has already started giving into the multi-national conglomerates, and once again we will loose, nothing new here Jack.
It means that President Obama lied when he said repeatedly that "We are a nation of laws." I see no evidence that we're a nation of laws when such a travesty is allowed to be perpetrated against the legal citizens of this country.
IS THIS THE CHANGE!!!!
WHO IN THE HELL IS RUNNING THE U.S. "ILLEGALS" THE AMERICA WE ARE BEING SCREWED.
It means up to 300,000 illegal aliens will benefit from the irresponsible actions by our legislators in Washington D.C.
That's great Jack –
I work 12 hours a day trying to find a new job. It's nice to know that all of my efforts are probably in vain.
300,000 is one third of the total population of the city that i live in.
Maybe my odds would be better in China
I keep hearing 8.1% of Americans, that is almost one out of 10. How many people is that? And where does that number come from? Is that the number of people collecting unemployment, because that doesnt include the ones that have given up or taken ANY job and a much lower rate.
Jack, I'm a Canadian and there are plenty of jobs available here, if Americans are upset about illegal immigrants from latin countries taking their jobs they're more than welcome to come up here and work, we have Wal-mart's and McDonalds here and they're in need of employees
This is a perfect example of the Anti American movement that exists today ......while I do not in any way support racism , I fully support what I call "American -ism" meaning Our Flag, Our Language, Our Freedoms, and our Taxpayers no matter what color they may be , as Citizens should be the ones that benifit – period!! It is time for the bleeding hearts that love everyone else but the average American citizen to be deported right along with the illegals and drug smugglers , which burden our system at an approximate cost of 1 billion a year in Colorado alone.............simply put since were footing the Stimulus Bill and Social Security ......Those are OUR benifits not the rest of the worlds.
So should we have the President do all the hiring, supervise all the jobs, and make payroll, too? What about personal responsibility? Instead of grousing about "this is your government at work" why not put the onus on the construction firms who would hire illegal aliens? Amp up the pressure on them to do the right thing.
Jack. You've been spun.
These "conservative groups" who conducted the study are actually anti-immigrant hate groups that have an anti-immigrant agenda.
In reality, the E-Verify program contains extraordinarily high error rates. Using it on a mandatory basis would overwhelm an already inadequate system and likely result in hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens being either wrongfully denied a job opportunity or... even worse... hundreds of thousands of U.S. citizens wrongfully being fired from jobs they already have.
Perhaps many of those jobs are those which Americans are "too cute" to do...even if they are starving! Many years ago, I worked as a motel-housekeeper. My colleagues...all Latinas! I was a waitress and server, at a retirement-home Alzheimer's unit. My colleagues...mostly Latinas! I worked at a superior hotel, in room-service. My colleagues...Hispanics! Years later, nothing has changed. Americans seem incapable of seeking legitimate employment that may not be "glamorous", or impressive! I, on the other hand, learned to "diversify", in order to survive, or to supplement my income, in a pinch, and ensured for myself an "education", and a great deal of self-worth and pride. Stimulus money may mean that those, who labor long-and-hard in the sorts of jobs that illegals flock to, will be rewarded with government money. And, what's wrong with that?
Give the illegal immigrates a chance because they also have kids to feed and parents that rely on them. They are human beings just like you and I.
Senator Sessions tried to add E Verify to the Omnibus Budget bill as an Amendment, and Reid again killed the attempt. What is another 300,000 jobs for illegal aliens when you look at the BIG PICTURE. We have 12.5 Million Americans out of work while over SEVEN MILLION ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS still have jobs in the American Work force.
Unfortunately, E-verify is rife with errors. While something needs to be done to ensure that jobs are going to American citizens rather than to illegal immigrants, this system should not be viewed as a perfect solution. I recently applied for a job and was identified as an alien by E-verify. I was born in California, and the last non-citizen in my family moved here over a century ago.
I guess these are jobs that middle class Americans not want. It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure that this would happen when the e-verify was left to expire.
Here in Texas almost all construction workers are hispanic and probably illegal.
If the government gives away 300,000 jobs to illegals, they might as well throw the stimulus money in a trash can and burn it. It doesn't do the american workers any good.
It means that 300,000 people will be able to eat, provide for themselves and their families.
Does the senate care about American jobs?
Illegal immigrants are a burden on hard working Americans who pay their taxes. Illegals on the other hand, take jobs that "no American wants to do" and dont pay any taxes but use many of the services the government provides us. Its been 8 years since 9/11 and we haven't secured our border?
It means America has become as stupid as the illegal’s flooding into our Country.
Jack It means that some folks will get jobs that should have gone to citizens, that will pay withholding taxes and never receive any benefit from them. Would it be better if they were all citizens, yes, but any money moving through the economy it better than none
Casto Valley CA
There are over 20 million illegal aliens in the USA, and more than half of them are working, so that means Americans have lost out on at least 10- million jobs. Of course, many of those are sucky jobs, but millions of them are good paying jobs in factories and construction.
Cafferty? Seriously. The money hasn't gone to illegals. A conservative think tank ESTIMATED it would go to 300,000 illegals.
Can you list the Two 'think tanks' so we can verify the record of their past predictions?
Oh sorry that would be something 24/7 news networks often neglect to get a catching headline. Research.
Seeing as my last 5 boyfriends have had employment and/ or money issues...
I'm thinking maybe I should start dating illegal aliens.
Everything we spend tax wise goes to the government other than food,let the illegals pick them dam oranges and lettuce what they came here for in the first place,and take a few senators with them.
Outrageous and shame on Obama, who I supported and still do.
But we can't give these jobs to illegal aliens and there should be a filtering system in place! I live in Arizona (transplanted New Yorker)
and I'm watching so many people trying to get even low level $8 an hour jobs that aren't there any more. Americans, citizens, they should always come first.
C'mmon Jack. You should know better than try and whip up racist emotions at a time like these. It is not illegal aliens that put us into this mess. Create jobs and let whoever can get the job get it. We in it all together. The last thing we need to deal with at this tough time is irrational bigotry.
"all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." I know I've read this quote somewhere...it says ALL men, not just aliens. This is true justice and equality.
why are you complaining about who wants to work. If illegal aleins want to bust there buts working and the american citizen doesnt then go after the lazy american. Why are illegal aliens better trained than americans, because we want a better life than any other country can provide.
Whoever gets the jobs should help our economy. Whether they are the zenophobicly phrased "illegal" immigrants or not.
"George from NYC March 9th, 2009 12:48 pm ET
It means that Americans aren’t desparate enough to take the jobs."
No, it means the employers will hire illegal aliens because they know they can pay them less than citizens and no one is actually going to bother to check who they hire.
It means 300,000 more workers paying in to Social Security that will never collect a dime! I'll be collecting SS in 10 years, and I don't have a problem with that!
Art in West Virginia
THAT MAKES ME VERY ANGRY, PART OF THE REASON, AMERICANS CAN'T FIND JOBS, IS BECAUSE , OF OUR OPEN BORDERS, AND ILLEGALS, WALK IN AND TAKE THEM, EMPLOYERS LIKE WORKERS, WO WORK VERY CHEAP AND KEEP QUIET, ABOUT WORKING OFF THE CLOCK, AND ANY OTHER ABUSES
Why are we suprised? Did anyone expect anything less?
As far as Americans and legal aliens...get down dog and stay down.
The more things 'change' the more they stay the same.
Though I am still very Pro-Obama
It means I won't be voting for Obama again in 2012!!!
Jack: It's highly unlikely that illegal aliens will get stimulis generated jobs. Employeers are required to use e-verify which confirms the employee's citizenship when making a new hire. There are so many controls surrounding the new stimulis programs on both the employer and employee's part, along with stipulated penalties, this is a non-issue that the GOP is cooking up. Trust me, in my line of work I have needed to come up to speed on many of the stimulis program factors. The GOP needs to invent something else to start trashing!!
Of couse part of me is livid. Americans should be getting the help...the tax payers of this country. But you also know the general lazy attituted of American workers (especially union) are 'too good' for most of the work that Illegals will be more than happy to take on to support their families. Show me a line of unemployed american tax payers eagerly looking for any job, including landscaping for 7 bucks an hour, and maybe there is some hope.
Jack: You are reporting old news on the benefits illegals will receive because congress left off e-verify. This was on the news last month and you didn't report it because it was controversial. Now that it is fact, you voice your opinion. Get with the program next time and get the word out on America's Congress!!
You quote USA Today quoting "two conservative think tanks". I think "conservative thank tank" has become an oxymoron. Yet you freak out without checking any farther or deeper. This isn't like you, Jack- more like one my dogs who enjoys getting hysterical. When there's truly reliable information, then we can respond sensibly. -Rev. Mary, Haverhill MA
Our Senators have their heads up their asses! To allow illegals to get our dollars is absolutely disgusting. Americans 1st! I have lost faith in our government.
Jack. Even with the high unemployment in many states, do you really think that Americans are going to fall back to working construction labor jobs? Even in this economic climate, I still think that there will be jobs that Americans won't do, picking lettuce, hauling construction loads, and mixing cement among them.
How do I become A non-citizen so that I could better benefit from this barely-stimulus package. I too would like to live here and not pay taxes.
If this continues to be allowed it will become a risky situation. the legal citizens in this country are suffering at a fast pace and this will not help our economy. Illegal imigrants should not even be allowed to work in this country let alone take our citizens rights to have a job.
I have a hard time making final conclusions about any economic strategies, but as far as all the drawbacks and benefits of immigrants taking jobs made by the package, it appears to me that we will still have the great benefit that all that money will still be passed along to the workers and then put back into the US economy. That's the point of the stimulus, right? to get more money flowing through the US economy, to get more money out there to pay for goods, ensuring that the flow of goods and capital is strong?
I suppose that the big drawback might be that illegal workers might not spend the money here in the states and might send it back to families wherever they came from. If that is happening, then yes, I'll agree with my conservative counterparts that the stimulus is not bringing money back to the American economy.
If those 12 million" came here in ships and trucks, all at one time what would the people call them?
"Illegal Alien" is Gove Speak for foreign invaders.
Jack you are exactly right what ever happened to Americans first. 300,000 jobs those jobs are greatly needed.
The first stages of most wars was Protectionism.
Everybody in America is an Immigrant.
Everybody in the World deserves a Life.
The Fair Trade Movement is only way out.
Fair World would pave the way to Recovery.
It means they still don't get it! When thousands of people show up to an Ohio school for ONE janitorial position, there are NO jobs that Americans won't do in this economy! Evidently, the senate just doesn't WANT to put American workers back on the job and the hispanic vote is just too important to require E-Verify!
I think it is unfair that illegal immigrants get these jobs and not the citizens. However, they are not to completely to blame, but instead the employers who hire them because they take advantage of the fact that they pay less money for the same quality of work. There needs to be laws or regulations to keep track of these interactions. Citizens first before anybody else.
I am an Independent who in the past always voted Republican. This time I bought in the the "hope" and "yes we can' and voted for Obama. If by "yes we can" he meant give jobs to people who do not belong here....next time I will vote for whomever runs against him. Even if I have to hold my nose and vote for Palin!!!!
It means either American citizens are not applying for these jobs, or businesses haven't changed their ways in hiring. Company owners that hire illegal’s should go to prison. Why aren't the Republicans screaming about this? Oh right, the business owners are Republicans in most cases.
Jack...I am dumbfounded at this report regarding E-Verify NOT being included in the Senate Bill (and the Senate is just plain DUMB) and so now illegals will get jobs (300,000+) that should go to LEGAL citizens? What can we do, as citizens, to stop this reckless behavior of our elected representatives? I swear, I write letters, send emails, make calls to my officials...do they even listen????? HELP!!!!!
Disgusted in Indiana
Another example of a President and an administration trying to be everything to everyone. Ratings and hope will not replace a muddled response when positive action is needed.
explain to me since this is a Bush era order...how come after all the years of a Bush era government it did not get done.
Yes the requirement to use e-verify should be included, but only if it is accurate and has quick turn around.
Here is what that means jack!!! That means 300,000 AMERICANS will not have a job!! I am so angry with that fact!!! My family has fought in world war 2, Vietnam, The gulf war, and Iraq!! How dare they allow this to continue!! I am already writing my state representative as well as my congressman!! Obama didn't say much during the campaign about immigration reform but i guess now we know where he stands!! Thanks a lot mr president!!!!
Jack, it means that the Congress and so-called business leaders don't mind letting the "illegals of the world" continue to suck the economic blood of Americans. E-Verify legislation ought to be signed and any member of Congress who opposes it should be outed pronto on the internet for all to see. Then, in upcoming elections, these idiots should be kicked out of office. It is time that we Americans stop being so easily cheated.
Mad as heck!
It means a setback. I live in California and on top of the global recession occurring, CA is going for broke; real Americans (including those whom immigrated here lawfully) deserve the jobs. What these groups need to understand is that it's not about equal rights here, it's a law.
The Stimulus should not be used by illegal aliens!!!
We need to help our tax paying citizens first.
Why can't they at least install a temporary stipulation that all stimuluous users must check all alien papers to varify legality!!!!
This is so wrong. When are we going to start taking care of AMERICA? I thought Illegals did only the jobs Americans did not want? Illegal is illegal. Fine the employer!
im a union ironworker for 20+ years and out of work in seattle and the union is the primary cause because they knew they were illegal
I am working on a construction site in Apex NC where there building a Super Wal-Mart. I see men come to this job site that have lost there jobs every day and they need jobs. On this site there must be 60 Illegal Aliens and nothing being done about it. I have called the ICE number for the area and reported this but nothing has been done. None of the contractors on this site will even talk to the men that come on site that have a right to work in this country .. WHAT A CRIME!!!
Yay! Undocumented workers pay sales taxes, property taxes amongst many other taxes that don't discriminate! Some even use a pin number to pay income taxes with the IRS, who would imagine that! It only makes sense that the stimulus package would indirectly help them keep their jobs, since employers always say, that undocumented workers work harder anyway! COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM NOW! Employers have to pay fair wages, they won't have to hire undocumented workers anymore, since these workers would legal now! Everyone Happy now!
Not for nothing but people who support illegal immigration should be deported. There are too many people losing there jobs who were born and raised IN THIS COUNTRY to give jobs to people who have no legal right to be here.
Since when are Yanks the only North Americans that deserve to work.? It's your greed that created the current economic mess..
Jack, 300,000 illegal immigrants getting new jobs means that 300,000 more human beings will be able to feed and house their families for a little while longer. It's easy to wave a flag at the issue to pretend that these are just numbers and not people, but try to have some compassion; as bad as things are for a lot of American families, things are even worse for most of the rest of the world.
well it is about time. Here in Oregon when you see apt complexes being painted ...they are all hispanic...when I walked by a business complex ...I saw the same thing. When I got out to eat at a fast food business...they hardly speak English.. Yes I can see those jobs going to non Americans..and yes employers should be made to check to make sure Americans get the jobs. I had neighbors who were from West Africa and he had a great many sisters who were all pregnant and have their babies here (making them American citzens) then they go back to their country... why is that allowed..and who is paying for that?
While i find it some what disturbing that 300,000 jobs will go to illegal immigrants i find that at this point it doesn't really matter who the jobs go to. What really matters is that people in this country illegal or not are working AND more importantly spending money. Once those 2 million people start spending money it opens up many many more jobs for others. I do agree that illegal immigrants are a problem but not the ones that take jobs and live honest lives; it is the ones who lead dishonest lives and end up costing tax payers a fortune in prison. Please post my response.
Jack, what it means is the height of insanity. what was this election about? i thought Mr. Obama was going to put the American worker back to work not placate the illegal aliens and the advocacy groups that fight for what they believe is their rights.
Jack...Jack...Jack...Who cares what conservative think tanks show.? Conservatives have lost their credibility. Their claim,"illegals will get 300,000 new construction jobs," has as much credibility, as their claim a few months ago, "the economy is economically sound."
Jerry N/Broken Arrow, OK
I am so tired of the argument that illegal immegrants are taking our jobs – there is noone who wants these jobs. These same people who cry foul are the same people who gladly see their lawn care technicans do their lawns knowing that not one of these people can speak English but these same people screem illegal alliens.
I really get upset when I hear this postuating.
Where are there studies that show these poor unfortunate people are steeling from the tax-payer other than studies by Lou Dobbs or 'people standing tall' in Florida.
We need to be able to assimilate the illegals into our society – isn't that the christian way that so many of these hypocrites profess to have?
What a load of bunk. And we could possibly discover life on another planet. Why don't these egg heads come up with something productive for once. How about not only identfying a potential problem bust some recommendations to resolve it. Stop the chicken little "the sky is falling stuff"!!!
We are so busy taking care of other countries and illegals that our people are suffering. Our tax dollars are gonna pay so illegals can get jobs???!!!! Come on now! Who is our government working for anyways????
Jack, it seems to me that this country has gone crazy throwing around money we don't have in an effort to make us feel that we do have money. In the midst of all the craziness we do things like allow immigrants to get our stimulus money which make it even more crazy. I am now looking at a 401K that has become a 201K and is rapidly going down to a 101K. I am in my mid 60s and there is no way that I will ever retire but I am responsible enough to pay all of my bills because I have always lived within my means which most people don't these days. I am so angry with this whole mess to include my fellow citizens who spend ever nickel they every get and get themselves in way beyond their means to pay bills. It is only made worse by the fact that we have elected officials who are just as bad.
Terry of Austin.
Why is this country always bailing out every other country? When do we get our bail out from other countries? We bail out everyone else and then they turn around and spit in our face for it. Is that what this country needs or even wants? I say, "let them drown themselves in their own debts."
It is a disgrace that our representatives would give American jobs to illegali immigrants ahead of legal citizens. We need to vote the members who support such practices out of office as soon as possible!
It means that political correctness will doom this nation. Hispanic advocacy groups openly and boldly advocate for illegals and attack anyone who dares to voice another opinion.
Its bad enough this nation barely enforces its immigration laws, this is just another continuation of that absurdity. Using US Tax Payer Money to give jobs to illegals while millions of Americans are out of work is unconscionable.
Jack you and your other minions in the so called news media are the 1st ones to attack groups that speak out against illegals, the hypocrisy from your profession on this issue is glaring.
And it was Rep Luis Gutierrez who demanded E-Verify be removed from the Bill, not the Senate..
All Americans had better wake up and realize we are all in this together before its too late..
So, I'm confused now. Don't the conservatives still want us to oppose the stimulus package because it's not supposed to create any jobs at all? Now 300,000 to illegal immigrants?
This is just a case of strengthening the laws that we have targeting employers that hire illegal aliens. lets get a few of the largest most profitable violators, raid them and heavily penalize them in a public forum.
Fine them and audit their HR records to assure that they are following the laws already on the books. Hit them in the wallet and then publicly shame them into paying a living wage and hiring LEGALLY. I am not being racist here I don't care about WHO gets the job as long as they are legally here in the US.
Who says that the American workers won't accept the position. The problem is they are not being given the chance for these jobs. Employers would rather pay under the table for day labor than to have to pay benefits. I live in MA and Health Insurance is mandatory so people need to get jobs that offer this benefit.
I get so sick of hearing people say that Americans will not work at these jobs. Give them a chance
It means Obama, Pelosi, and friends are so busy entertaining celebrities, creating new committees, and savoring their power that they have exposed their lack of concern for middle class Americans who hopefully– sadly– elected them. Has anyone else noticed that every day brings a new committee, a new policy, and none of it is actually aimed at the current CRISIS?
Much of the income of those 300,000 illegal aliens will be sent back to their families in their home countries, so I guess it means we'll be stimulating the wrong economies – and worsening our trade deficit at the same time. Sort of a back-handed "two-fer."
Most of the money will wind up in other countries one way or another. My old company is fighting the buy USA provisions, because what they make has too much import content to qualify for stimulus money. If you buy a new TV it will be made in Asia somewhere. If you buy a car, maybe half of it will be made in the US, or maybe not. Clothes, shoes, not made here any more. Remodeling? Most of the materials are imported in whole or part. Food? Even fresh fruit is imported now. If you see a Made in USA label now, chances are the label was, but not the goods it is pasted on.
it reminds me of three years ago when federal money was used to pave our road and i would drive by and watch the van load of illegal alens pile out and go to work for the largest road contractor in okla. working cheaper than americans would not that americans would not have done the jobs they just wouldn't work for almost nothing sounds like more of the same
I agree that the stimulus will give 300,000 illegal aliens jobs. They should've put something in the stimulus to make sure that, that doesn't happen but I recall one republican senator (dont remeber his name) saying the same thing. Why didn't the republics see to it that
E-verifying was part of the stimulus plan. I think there just trying their best to make sure the stiulus plan fails.
"USA Today reports that studies by two conservative think tanks show illegal aliens could take 300,000 new construction jobs"
Key words in the above fragment: "USA Today", "conservative think tanks", "could"
This kind of senseless, ideologically driven fear-mongering doesn't do anything to help either the economy or our national immigration debate. Remember the source, Jack: do you really think these conservative think tanks have the best interests of the country at heart? Or are they simply looking for a pointy stick to jab at a Democratic spending bill and to stir up anti-immigrant sentiment? Clearly we need to pursue meaningful, forward-looking immigration reform, but that process is only muddied by incendiary appeals to the "They took our jobs!" crowd.
This assumes that the 'conservative think tanks' are correct and not just running in tandem with the republican scream machine that loves to hate the stimulus bill. 'Conservative think tank'...isn't that an oxymoron?
Jack.... It means Lou Dobbs's head might explode. (New Jersey)
Why would they not approve e-verfify......oh...well that's how they've made their millions! It's funny ,as a daugher of a drywaller, who sacrificed making $$$ for hiring americans, while his comeptitors hired illegials, and as former HR coordinator at a 5-star resort, which "advised" me to turn an "eye" with fake documents, this is sad. I thought Obama was for Americans, but I guess cheep labor always wins.....sad but true and devestating for resort towns. I make a ton now, but I didn't, and I can say that the whole turning a blind eye has always bothered me. Hello Obama-wake up! Democrats aren't into goverment sanctioned illegal immigration!
The biggest argument of pro-illegal immigrant groups is that they are doing jobs that Americans do not want. We are seeing 7,000 people apply for 500 part-time jobs at a stadium, 700 applications for a janitor job at a school, people are willing to take anything! These have not been jobs Americans won’t do, they are jobs that Americans have been forced out of by the cheap and plentiful illegal alien workforce. It is time to put Americans first for a change. No jobs on the backs of taxpayers should be given to those who are in the country illegally. Senator Sessions is trying to get an amendment for E-verify extension added to the omnibus spending bill today. Call your senator expressing support of this amendment.
conservative think tanks??? What do they have to think with??All it means Jack is that the Bush Debacle is still with us, like a bad odor, just won't go away
I saw the comment about 300k in jobs going to illegal aliens. I live in Albuquerque NM. Our state is spending 1 million to rebuild a school in Columbus NM, a border town in which children from Mexico are picked up by our School Bus from Mexico, and brought to the US each day to attend this school. 300k in jobs we Americans don't want, Million Dollars schools we don't need? What the crap Jack?
It all has to do with CAFTA . There will be no borders between the
US, Mexico and Canada. Add to this 9 other world regions and it
sets the stage for a New World Order. Read all about it in the
Word of God.
Please talk about CAFTA.
Thats easy to cure Jack
Every state and county has immigration office, So people who are looking for work just has to keep the office informed as to what company is not following the rules.
I'm a strong supporter of President Obama but I've always disagreed with his immigration policy. Our country is accommodating this invasion of criminals and giving all immigrants and undeservingly bad name. While talking about real change, we should examine the practice of welcoming these ILLEGALS into our country at the expense of honest citizens, be they native or well-meaning immigrtants who paid their dues and came to this country for the right reasons.
Keep up the good work, CNN.
The process is just starting, there aren't 300 jobs "due to the stimuulis package" at this point, and you are giving credence to "conservative think tanks" who claim that 300,000 illegal aliens will get jobs from this package. (Instead of native born, red blooded Americans I assume is the unquoted part of their statement...) Come on Jack, You need to get out more if you consider this question anything other than a skit premise for "Saturday Night Live".....
It evidently means there are 300,000 less jobs available for unemployed Americans.
I believe the economic mess we’re experiencing is a punishment or purification for the relentless persecution of these people at the very bottom of our economy. We need to refresh ourselves with James Chapter 5:1!
Doesn't this defeat the whole purpose of the economic stimulus bill?
Sure makes a lot of sense for illegals to work here, collect a paycheck, not pay taxes on that money, use emergency services, and then send some of that money out of the country!
It means the same result of jobs going to illegal workers before the stimulus package. Of course, it hurts more when we're down, but legislation to demand legal employment verification needs to be addressed whether or not it's specifically attached to a stimulus package.
This would be an ideal opportunity for Senators to prove their worth, get off their high horses and put through an amendment to the Bill. All these political shenanigans going on in Congress are tantamount to treason against the ordinary folk of America and their elected President. How long will it be before it sinks in that they are supposed to be representing the citizens of their respective states, not their own personal ideologies. It should be commonsense first and ideology second. What a load of buffoons! And, I used to think this was the greatest country in the world. It was, once.
What it means is that employers will be breaking the law and should be held liable for their crimes. It only takes a few seconds to verify a potential employee's eligibility (if you want to verify it.) Employers who choose to violate federal law and not correctly complete the I-9 form (I bet there are thousands of employers who still don't even know what an I-9 is) ought to be fined. When it starts to cost money for them to violate the law, then maybe employers will stop doing it. In the meantime, those now very valuable jobs will go to criminals who are here illegally and no matter how immigrant advocates try to spin it, because it's illegal, it's wrong.
You're an intelligent man. Read between the lines. All that is going on confirms the US and Mexico will be one entity. Think about how much furture $ will be saved if the immigrants of today are working for slave wages once we become joined.
This is UNACCEPTABLE! President Obama should move up his order from May to TODAY to require that all federal agencies use the e-Verify program to make sure that ALL workers hired all legal American citizens! Americans should be getting all the jobs created by the stimulus package, NOT illegal aliens.
It means, Jack, that the "Oh, these people are here to do job that Americans don't want to do," coming home in difficult times. Most of these jobs in construction will be labour-type jobs...jobs done almost exclusively by illegal aliens. What is different...is Americans no longer have the jobs they wanna do.
It means nothing but a distraction of stimulus package. Next, these conversative groups will say the stimulus pacakge will funnel the money to terrorists too.
Well, if the 300,000 employers take out their payroll taxes and we citizens get the benefits of that, (since the illegals generally kiss every dime of that money goodbye as soon as they do the work); and if no citizens are in line next to them to take the same pay rate and are willing to do the same job, maybe.
Pesident Obama needs to remember that most people are not against immigrants here in the U.S. They are against "illegal immigrants"!
Our money should go to create jobs for americans and immigrants who are here legally.
It means that law abiding Americans need no longer follow the law. It means that our own government is supporting anarchy. We are required to follow the law as part of the priviledge of living in this country. This is even a bipartisan issue since it was under the Bush Admin that two border patrol officers were jailed for shooting a drug dealer illegally crossing the border. Perhaps immigration is our next Boston Tea Party. When are people going to stop looking for Big Brother to save us and start demanding their rights and the law be followed by ALL!! This 'little person' is starting to feel pretty damn big!
Americans gave up doing physical labor and 'dirty' jobs decades ago for climate control and paper pushing.
It makes us dumb , and while you're at it leave out the word stimulus, just any job. Also send send back all the illegals in prison and on govenment subsidies of any kind. Lots of states would probably be able to balance their budget then. sharon in illinois
It means our government does not care about Americans! It is appalling! I could not be more disgusted! Oh wait – yes I can – I just remembered the Senate voted last week to allow 'illegal' aliens access to Social Security benefits. It is already impossible to live on Social Security alone. If the government gives benefits to 'illegal' aliens who have never contributed, where does that leave those of us who have paid into Social Security all our working lives? Who are these unamerican politicians who appear to hate America – I wish would just MOVE!
The Bush Administration failed to fix the illegal immigration problem. The fact is, some illegal immigrants will probably turn to crime if they can't find work. The only way to fix this problem is with a clear and unified immigration policy that includes border enforcement, deportation of criminals AND a path to citizenship for the millions of tax paying illegals that are impossible to deport.
"Casey in Sebastopol, CA March 9th, 2009 1:09 pm ET
Let’s separate the illegal immigrant issue from the jobs/stimulus — how short-sighted and stupid are you if you can’t see that jobs for any worker in this country equals money into our economy?"
Well, let's see. How many illegal immigrants pay taxes? I also bet a good portion of the money they make goes to pay off the smugglers who brought them into the country, or sent back home to family members so that they can be smuggled in.
Mr. Cafferty you sound surprised..... about the E-Verify.... Lou Dobbs has been talking about it....advising everyone to contact their Reps and Pelosi and Reid and Obama not to pass any bill without E-Verify. It came from the Congress 800 pages thick without E-Verify.....then some smart Senators put it back in.....then at the last hour some Democrats slipped it back again.... you must remember they didn't let anybody read it.
The good looking President can’t stay focused ….should have focused on banks only, jobs only…and Americans Only.
Why do you think people are furious.... should have focused on banks only, jobs only…and Americans Only.
Instead of charmingly cramming thru social problems, pork, pay for play for unions, acorn, La Raza activists, teachers.. etc.
No "Buy American" clause... now this! What else will "our" gov't do to screw us even more? We MUST start taking care of "us" and then we might be able to start helping elsewhere.
How much more obvious does it need to be for Americans to realize that our country is broken. From manufacturing to wall street, from illegal aliens to outsourcing government contracts overseas... we are in dire-dire straits. I have no confidence left for our system of government or economy. Its time for revolutionary ideas.
Perhaps the Senate and those who voted them in, as well as the employers who hire illegals, should give a portion of their paychecks to every American whose job is sacrificed to an illegal alien. I am appalled by the fact that the idea of only hiring legals was not made a prerequisite before obtaining any of our tax payer's money.
Shame on the Senate and on America. I guess there is a very legitimate reason for this national disaster.
What does it mean if up to 300,000 illegal aliens get jobs created by the economic stimulus package. -Very little. It clearly matters a great deal to individuals who "hate foreigners". Perhaps they should focus their attention on tearing down the statue of liberty – they should remove the “welcome mat.”
One point of view is that anyone living in the US is contributing to or burdening our economy, using our emergency rooms, potentially complicating antibiotic-resistance diseases etc. Broaden your mental map. Quit pointing fingers or looking for someone to blame (always the little guy).
Saw this coming – it was pretty obvious. Congress must have looked the other way.
I dont see nothing wrong with that. I dont see (so called americans) saying anything when illeglly imergrants are working there farms!!!
Kevin in Dallas, TX sounds like a liberal Obama supporter. The excuse "jobs that Americans refuse to do" is getting old and tired. Illegal means illegal. What don't these people understand about the word illegal? Maybe when 50% of Americans are not working and the other 50% are paying taxes for the rest, then the illegals will be thrown out or sent to sanctuary cities like San Francisco. Open your eyes people, Obama is in WAY OVER HIS HEAD and his talking points through numerous speakers on TV are saying it may take years to fix the problems.....geez, too bad he didn't say that during the campaign.
What does illegal immigrants benefiting from the stimulus program? It means that American citizens do not benefit from the stimulus program. It means the federal government is failing the American people on one of its purposes: Protecting the borders. It means that big business will profit from illegal labor that often lives in homes against local housing codes that bar a one family home being used by 20 unrelated people. It means more American neighborhoods looking like a third world village.
It means the most wealthy will further pad their pockets on the backs of blue collar Americans.
Jobs for illegal immigrants does not even dignify a response. Jobs are for the American Citizens and illegal immigrants do not have a voice, but should be imprisoned. If an illegal immigrant kills an American he/she should be put to death by our judicial system.
This is outrageous. In a "stimulus" plan that already doesn't do much in terms of creating jobs, it produces 300,000 of them for illegal aliens? In case the politicians didn't notice, the unemployment rate for their constituents–the people they SHOULD be representing–may reach 9%. In an industry so heavily impacted by the current recession, there are plenty of U.S. citizens that Congress should be focusing on. Once again, our elected officials have failed us. Enforce the immigration laws. In doing so, they will create more law enforcement jobs, and free up positions for the people who deserve those jobs. The fact that illegal aliens have been permitted to stay via indifference is bad enough. Creating jobs for them definitely crosses the line.
It means that a good many filthy rich corporations spent their money wisely -by bribing (campaign contributions) their selected officials into letting them hire illegals with impunityl. I just love 'Murika! USA! USA!
The law is already in place that requires employers to verify workers status; it is just not enforced like it should be. Illegal immigration could be solved tomorrow if employers were fined 1/4 of their previous years profits. No company would risk that large of a fine and illegals here for work would go home.
Here in Texas we have been watching illegals take construction jobs for years. Gov. Bush, allowed it, Gove Rick Perry is still allowing it.
And there are many people who would like those jobs if the state paid a decent salary but they don't want to, so they subcontract their jobs out and then the businesses have all illegals working for them. The government needs to go back to having to hire people direct for those jobs. Opps that means they would have to give benefits....That's the main reason we see it's not done anymore. Look at the postal system , mostly subcontract jobs. Sad.
What does it mean Jack? Just another nail in our coffin!
When I was a teen, construction and food service were entry-level jobs. When did they become jobs that "American's won't do"?
I live near Los Angeles, where on May Day illegal immigrants will march with inpugnity,and yet my family can no longer vacation in Tijuana safely. Let's enforce our immigration laws and reinstate the E-Verify program now!
San Bernardino, CA
The politicians say we have to spend this moneys because it's all about JOBS, JOBS, JOBS however the they won't enforce our immigration laws, won't stop the HB1 visas, and won't negotiate FAIR trade. This is all about bankrupting our country and sending us closer to the NEW WORLD ORDER.... Wake up America !!!! These politicians don't care about you or our country.
According to the republicans the stimulus package would "not"
stimulate anything! Now its going to stimulate 300,000 illegal alliens
I am confused. LOL, I do hope that the jobs are given to Americans first.
I guess he is keeping his promise to the Illegals he made before he became president. That was a cheep vote for President Obama. He sold out Americans, Just like Bush did. The democrats change and promise to us will be no better than what was done to us the last 8 years. Who will protect us? When will we stand up and say, we will not take this no more? The illegal aliens have had enough benifits taken from us americans. We want our country back. And someone who will stand up for us americans!
E-Verify should be mandated in every state in our nation. There is no excuse in the world why it is not. I have been writing the president and my represenatives regarding the stimulas package and the use of E-Verify. What a slap in the face to all of us that some of these jobs will go to people who are here illegally. This is sick. Americans need jobs and they need them now.
The problem here is both parties are so polarized, they can't even think rationally! Conservatives want free trade and no illegal immigration. Liberals are anti-free trade but want illegal immigration. Either jobs are lost to cheap labor overseas or at home.
So? So many wanted change..you are getting it...short changed.
Now live with it.
I am a unemployed construction worker .Most companys would rather hire Mexicons because they will work 12hrs a day 7 days a week.
I think every work visa should be revolked and all of them deported!
It means the system is screwed up. We should stop giving money to banks, and use it all on getting rid of illegal immigrants. Once they are gone, Americans can take the jobs the illegal immigrants had. Then the economy will rise and people will spend like crazy again.
Jack let's face it: if the xenophobic Republicans couldn't get anything done concerning illegal immigration during the six years that they controlled both houses of congress and the White House, ain't nothing ever gonna happen regarding illegals. Regardless of "change we can believe in", the powers that be in Washington don't care about the average American, our deciders are bought and paid for by the special interests.
I think that American jobs should be kept for Americans. So what this means is that er and future generations are going billions of dollars in debt for illegal immagrants?
Please don't start being a Lou Dobbs – we already got one, and that's enough. We do not need to incite the ire of voters by picking on one part of our population after another, with incomplete analysis.
The work that "illegal immigrants" would perform as part of the stimulus plan would pave the way for work that others would be willing to do – construction material manufacturing, realtors, bankers, grocers, etc.
If we were truly "pro-American worker", we would not send any funds to right-to-work states or companies that hire non-union workers!
It has been that "competition", between pro-worker states and states that undermine workers rights, and the giving away of public resources (state incentives) that has hurt the middle class as much as anything else.
It means that the President is looking out for everyone in the country. Most of those jobs no one wants anyway and employers what to hire illegals at a low wage. (that can change quickly!) It's people with, telling people without what can, could, and will be. Pushing everyone down to these types of jobs. (low pay / heavy labor) If you didn't say anything about spending before Obama...DON'T NOW!
Hard earned taxpayer dollars going out in a stimulus package to illegal aliens, that's fine by me. After all, illegal aliens always pay federal income taxes, never pose a drain on the healthcare or education systems, so thus they should be fully entitled to taxpayer dollars. Change is finally here!
It means there are 300,000 citizens and/or legal immigrants are not getting those jobs and that's a shame. The country is struggling. Who wants to see hard earned $ sent back to foreign countries to support thier families back home instead of being spent right here.
America wil fall completely! And will no longer be a super power Iran will be very happy!
Thank you Bush!
It means that lettuce will not cost us $7.00 a head.
Why should it be a surprise that many of those jobs supported by the bail-out, would go to illegal aliens. We have an open door policy and it leads right to your wallet. Me thinks somethings stinks in Washington.
"Pay" no attention to the man behind that SMOKE SCREEN.
sounds like more business as usual out of the White House, more concerned with protecting the profits of big business than with protecting the well being of "legal" U.S. citizens. The working class really needs to figure out a way to develop our own lobbying base.
The correct comparison is never made when it comes to the American citizen and jobs. If the American citizen was offered a job off the books-no taxes deducted, I'm certain they would jump at the chance for the job. The problem is the American citizen has taxes deducted, so now these "menial" jobs are paying less to the citizen than to the illegal alien. Level the working field one way or the other, and we'll see who takes the jobs.
What does it mean? It means the same thing it would mean if American's got those jobs. It is a complete and total false hood if one thinks that immigrants (yes even the illegal ones) don't pay taxes. Not only will they pay taxes but they are more likely to buy other things in order to stimulate the economy. They have children too. They too need things.
Furthermore the question we should be asking is why should lazy American's that want a high pay get those jobs? If an immigrant is willing to work harder for less pay then wouldn't it be logical for those companies to hire them? Why should they hire idiots and the lazy that will drag the company down instead someone that will be a boost to the company and therefor the economy?
Jack, what it means is the height of insanity. what was this election about? i thought Mr. Obama was going to put the American worker back to work not placate the illegal aliens and the advocacy groups that fight for what they believe is "their" rights.
Thats the funny thing about the conservative media. The wingnuts love to get on the bandwagon, and complain about it. And it works out well enough, on the jobsites, as long as the job gets done, the crews just segregate themselves by language. If the conservatives really cared, they would be penalizing employers that hired illegal aliens, except, then Limbaugh would be bashing his own audience.
Unbelievable, but not surprising. Ofcourse when employers see no penalty for hiring dirt cheap labor to line their own pockets AND also recieve stimulus to do so, why not? The illegal aliens have no remorse to use everything that the taxpayers work so hard to have (public schools, healthcare, public services, etc), so you know they are on board as well. I think that if i can trust all my medical records to be electronic, then the E-verify process couldn't be that difficult to maintain and they should be using it.
This happens when we have "open" borders! Look in Germany when the wall came down and millions of iilegals took jobs. Their immigration officers went to a work site unnounced and swept thru for legal work papers from all the workers. If they didn't have them then the company had to pay a huge fine and of course the perpatrator was escorted out! Americans have a huge heart and think that these people are oppressed and deserve a chance. Well, there you go- now they have your job! Homeland security busts but everyday to ensure the borders are controlled, but it will take communities to help. There is a legal way for immigrants to come- I did it!
What is means is that our govt. is so interested in making sure they do what they can to get the Hispanic vote and that they don't care enough about the American people. I think we need to deport all illegals and focus on getting our fellow Americans, jobs that they deserve. It is time for the politicians to get off there butts and start working on the things that matter.
Doing jobs that America won't. Back-Breaking Labor, for a less than minimum income.
Should we be more angry about illegals trying to find a way to support themselves and their families, or at the companies that hire them to boost profit margins by not paying a fare wage to an American who needs the job?
I think that it's "GREAT"! Let's hire them all through "Homeland Security", then they could teach us; how they got into the States, and how they've managed to stay in the country..
The economic stimulus package was created for everyone who seeks or has sought to try to obtain a life in the United States Let's not be discriminatory against illegal aliens. They have as much right to provide food and shelter for themselves, as any past immigrant, who by the way mostly started immigrating to the U.S. illegally by (1) jumping ship as many Italian sailors had, including my father! (2) Obtaining refugee status, even as recently as a few years ago from the U.S.S.R. and the Ucraine. (3) We had stolen Texas, parts of our now southwestern states, including southern California, from Mexico in 1846! , and (4) the List goes on and on. I believe that immigrants from wherever, with good intentions, should remain in the land of Cowboys and Indians. If they show destructiveness, like G.W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Wall Street criminals, then deport them! Hallelujiah, and Amen! You should know from it, Shalom!
We spent 800 Billion for nothing, and America is done for!
Is this really suprising anyone? Everyones suddenly upset because illegal immigrants are getting their jobs, but yet most of the people complaining are ones that support amnesty of these people? Odd, making them legal, also gives them jobs (and benefits) they didnt pay in to produce. Looks like anti amnesty is more popular now that loss of jobs has become a real concept to most of you people..yet it was okay when it wasn't YOUR job at stake...and you claim republicans are hypocrites?
Please tell me this is a joke. Not ONE job should go to anyone other then an American citizen. E-Verify should be used all the time. Obama needs to step up to the plate on this one and do it now.
What an outrage! Half of the 6 billion people on the planet do not have access to clean drinking water. They will ALL move here if we allow them to. Then we will be in as bad shape as the worst countries on earth. E-verify works great. I see a second civil war if this continues.
It means 300,000 people who are no longer competing with me as I look for a job because they are suddenly employed. It means 300,000 people spending money at businesses run by legal residents so they can feed their family. It means an extra 300,000 people helping to increase the velocity of money in the economy. It even means 300,000 people who aren't so desperate to feed their children that they have to resort to stealing to do it.
The whole point of a keynesian style stimulus of the sort America is trying to do is that everybody benefits if their neighbor is working. We are well past worrying about the immigration status of a particular individual, and need to focus on the big picture. If we get America working, we may be able to weather the storm. If we spend all our effort keeping certain people from jobs, we miss the point of the effort, and the economy goes into hibernation.
I'm confused, I've had an uncle tell me for years that all illegal immigrants do is collect wellfair, not work...
While I'd prefer eVerify be used, the reality is that the jobs aren't necessarily being taken away from citizens and given to illegals, the illegals are just the ones trying to get a portion of them. You can't tell me Joe from Temecula is going to be passed over for a job by Jose from Tijuana. I just don't know if Joe has filled out the application even with unemployment so high.
This is politics as usual. the middle class pay again. And the government and financial experts wander why everyone is not running out and buying unnecessary items or big ticket items such as cars and homes...... go figure! What I would like to know is why less than 100 billion of the "stimulus" package is going to infrastructure that is crumbling in this country, yet so much "pork" was added that will do nothing to end this recession.
Aren't we jumping the gun here? Why provoke such a one sided question? This will do nothing more than bring out this country's bad side. Last I looked even illegal aliens who raise their children AND have jobs in this country, spend money here. Isn't that good for the economy? Shouldn't we stop scapegoating and come together to pull out of this?
How many American citizens will also be denied stimulus jobs because they don't speak Spanish - required by a growing number of employers due to the growing Latino workforce (legal and illegal) here in California?
Don't hate the player, hate the game...and no, it is not about playing with people's lives, but just as Jack Nicholson said it in "Men of Honor", "you want him in that wall, you need him in that wall", is the same with the illegal immigrants, You want them on the fields, You need them on the fields. Who is going to pick up the crops for 4 dollars an hour, who is going to clean your residences or your offices, who is going to do your cooking or your housekeeping? You Mr. Cafferty? You Mr. Whiteguy with a higher education? I didn't think so. You are too proud and selfish that you wouldn't roll up your sleeves to pick up your mother if she fell on the floor. Think about what would be the price of groceries if it was paid a fair wage, or what would happen to hotel room prices or your fast food crappy meal. Just think about it. If you don't look like "Geronimo" you or your families were immigrant at one point!!!
Jack, it doesn't mean a thing! If illegals get the jobs that many others do not want to do, what's wrong with that? Someone has to fill those jobs.
By the way Jack, I'm a delivery truck drivers with an MBA degree, a GPA of 3.67.
Was that not why Bush created no laws or tried to stop illegal aliens from coming into America in the first place?-–cheap labour–
Something must be done to not allow illegals to get our jobs.I've been looking for a job here in Chandler,AZ for 3 months now and iv'e noticed illegals have the jobs I want like landscaping and wharehouse jobs.
Please help us.
Also I could use some help..my car was stolen in Jan. and i'll be homeless soon if i don't find a job soon.
Much love to you and all.
why don;t just take the american flag down an put up a white flag with a sign saying WELCOME TO AMERICA AS LONG AS YOU ARE ILLIGAL< COME IN AN DO WHAT EVER YOU WHAT , we don;t have any right;s any we worry more about other people, then are own!!!
It doesn't mean squat. People get upset about illegal aliens with jobs even when the economy is booming. They get upset even in towns where they've seen more aliens from UFO's than undocumented workers.
The economy is a system. This system includes the daily efforts of executives, entrepreneurs, laborers, servants; it requires the efforts of the documented, the undocumented, the educated, the illiterate, the left-handed, the bi-sexual, the ex-serviceman and the ex-con. We need to get the whole system functioning...it's going to take our full attention. We need to focus on that and stop getting our backs up whenever we hear certain phrases.
The answer lies in the question, Jack.
Obviously, that would mean that the stimulus plan had worked very well, and created two million jobs in the construction sector alone.
We could all breath a first sigh of relief, couldn't we?
Bud Pratt Punta Gorda, FL
Why would these companies check for green cards. It saves them money paying lower wages to these illegals multiply that by 300,00 you do the math. Somebody with the contract has a big payday not the workers. Fix your southern border, the northern border isn't broken
employers should use e verify program we cannot afford more loses 300,000 is big number the government better do something
I have written my congressman and both senators and ask them to include the E-Verify to make sure this does not happen. My grands who don't a degrees are unable to get any kind of job because of Mexicans. They work for less and the work under the table.
There is a unemployment rate of 13.9 among blacks and a 25% rates among teens and early twenties. This has to stop.
These people can walk across the border and get a job and home and car. My family has brought over here in the 16000s . We have fought in every war through the Korean . There is no reason to keep excluding blacks for every new immigrant.
If this happens again blacks need to hit the streets and start to protest.
start failing ,
We, blacks need not count on Obama. He went along with that comprehensive immigration plan , so he will think it is okay to allow this.
China, gathered up all their illegals more than 20 million and sent them home a month ago. We must do likewise.
Our leaders should be ashamed. American workers need to survive and strengthen our economy.
300,000 illegal immigrants means an appriximately 2.25 million dollars per hour are taken out of the of the stimulus package. About 7 billions dollars in one year will be going out of the U.S. and stimulating that other country. Soon, those business that are employing illegal immigrants will be out of business too.
Somewhat irrelevant in that a rising tide raises all boats. If they are getting 300,000 low paying jobs out of this, that means that native born Americans are getting 3,000,000 jobs. The argument of whether they should be here or how many of them are here is an entirely separate issue that should be divorced from the subject (except by rabble rousing populists such as Lou Dobbs and Pat Buchanan).
I expect my government to crack down on illegal immigration and send these people back to where they came from! The country can no longer tolerate social parasites that drain our diminished resources.
I also think Visas for foreign workers should be suspended during these tight economic times.
Jack, Lets all hope this is not true. Thousands of americans are out of
work. All jobs should be directed to this pressing problem of the
"USA Today reports that studies by two conservative think tanks show illegal aliens could take 300,000 new construction jobs."
the operative word, here, is "could". let's stir up a little more ani immigrant feel shall we? let not discuss the mass exodus of illegals , or that the studies themselves, are by two conservative groups. lets promote fear, instead of asking questions or contacting our congress people. by all means, lets dicuss "could as if it were a cold, hard fact.
I know exactly what this means: the destruction of wage standards in the construction industry. The carpenters union learership had my brothers and I campaigning for Obama (and I voted for him), but this will destroy union america. It does not suprise me at all that the senate wants it this way – both parties there represent the business sector who want skilled trades (some of the few jobs that cant be outsourced) to be done by a permanent underclass of aliens who are afraid to organize.
I dont blame the illegal workers, but rather our government who, despite its "new socialism", values the concerns of the wealthy over the dignity of workers. It would be much fairer make all of them citizens, at least then we would all be on equal footing. This is globalization in reverse! Soon we will all be living in the third world right here.
Isn't that the point of Capitalism, the person who will do the job for the least amount of money gets it?
Well it seems with all the pros about having obama as president, Good amount of inteligence, Better supporter of the middle class than bush. Guess we had to get at least one con out the deal. SOFT on Immigration. Then again so was the last president.
e- verify was taken out of the stimulus bill by the Senate??? why? crooked busniess going on?
It would mean that maybe those 300,000 illegally employed workers would be able to buy a few of the millions of foreclosed homes that Americans aren't buying, continue to spend their earned income in American companies, continue to fund social security for Americans without any of the benefits, and maybe, just maybe, be able to afford sitting next to Americans in a restaurant instead of just preparing their dinner behind doors.
It's another SLAP ON THE FACE to the American Taxpaying citizens if the illegals get the jobs. Americans SHOULD GET FIRST choice at these jobs...NOT ILLEGALS!!! I'm sick of the illegals getting priority over American citizens!! When does it end Jack??
We need E-Verify enacted now! Not for 5 years-but in perpetuity? Senator Harry Reid blocked E-Verify in the Stimulus, and was supported by his co-conspirators–Pelosi, Robert Menendez, Gutierrez, Feinstein, Senators Levin and Stabenow, Congressman Dingell and anonymous lawmakers, who have no sympathy for the US Workers. They have become subservient to big business welfare. Hidden grants from the Ford foundation that attracts such organizations as La Raza, Mecha, MALDEF and a whole retinue of ethnocentric delusional entities that are trying to erode our Constitution and Rule of Law.
E-Verify is the most powerful asset we have to halt parasite employers from stealing jobs from Americans. Contractors on construction site seeing an extra dollar they can make from hiring an illegal worker. If we only enforce our immigration laws–threaten company executives with prison, the millions unable to find employment will go home. Visa over-stayers and border jumpers will find it impossible to live here. Help ICE and report suspicious activity in the workplace. Demand E-verify TODAY. Don't procrastinate? Call the Capitol: (202) 224-3121 Call Harry Reid: 202.224.3542 and 202.224.5556 Call President Obama: 202-456-1111.
There are many areas in this nation where the only construction workers you can find are Mexican, legal or illegal. Baby boomers are aging and for some reason there are jobs that people in this country simply won't do.
Housework, yard work, some constructions jobs that do not involve sitting atop a machine. It's difficult to find tradesmen, too, in parts of the country.
This story is a red herring. The government needs to figure out how to get legal residents of the country to do stoop labor and hard work and to get them to take jobs that pay minimum wage. Americans have too long lived above their means and hired others to do the work they are unwilling to do.
And unforunately our elected officials also are greedy and met less than 100 days in the last session of Congress. Illegal aliens have a work ethic more admirable than Congress.
Jack: I'm angry, but not suprised. They tell the American people that they are the best and most productive people in the world, while sneaking illegals in the back door. Only they've become so bold they don't even sneak any more. Wake up AMERICA.
Are you kidding? First they're here ILLEGALLY, for gods sake, and then you want to reward them for being here?? Illegal is illegal, PERIOD. And you wonder why this country is in such trouble shape, well with thinking or should I say lack of thinking, it's no wonder they're running across the border to get their freebies. Come on people get your heads out of your ____s. Wake up, why don't you just invite everyone to come to this country for a free handout.
what does everyone expect???? the system is corrupt to the core !!!so why would this be news we weren't expecting!!!!!!!! of course there are organizations working for illegal aliens. All of them need to be put on bus and driven to the border!! Who is really responsible to over see this corruption. Oh I guess again we are leaving it up to all the businesses in this country to do it!!! Good luck!!
Repbulicans are giving away the money?! try again sweetie, the dems are all for amnesty, and the dems passed the stupid stimulus, which hasnt stimulated anything, they're now talking about a 2ND STIMULUS.
It means that a democratic Congress under uber-liberal Nancy Pelosi will get its way in promoting socialism to illegal immigrants. Liberal issues aside – Congress' failure to place worker protection measures into law means that thousands of illegal immigrants and legal workers may take jobs from disreputable and unlicensed contractors who prey on the vulnerable (unemployed). Illegal immigrants and others this economic crisis will be paid less than minimum wage, no worker protections for injury or disability, and in many instances, no pay for the work completed. The issue is not illegal immigration; the real issue is that Congress' stimulus package failed to address protection's that every American (even illegal's) deserve under taxpayer funded programs. The urgency to pass legislation has left hundreds of thousands of people vulnerable to those who would prey on the weak and take advantage of others for personal gain.
Sorry Jack, you don't know what you're talking about. Apparently you have never been on a "no fly" list or on a government list which, unknown to you erroneously indicates that you are a "security risk" and can no longer work in a field you have devoted your life to. Wake up Jack – all these computer generated lists sound well intentioned but consider the morons that control them! You will die before the frredom of information act and the Courts can rectify the situation!
It means that American capitalism continues to work as it always has unchecked and out of control...the downside, however, is unambiguously clear despite the fact that capitalists' themselves are in complete denial...
Yes, it DOES MATTER...American Citizens should have FIRST DIBBS over Legal Immigrants. Illegal Aliens deserve no dibbs, but DEPORTATION. We have over 12 million Americans out of work right now in America while over 7 million Illegal Alien criminals have jobs. Time for a revolution.
Just another example of our government staggering down a dark alley blindfolded. Congress can't seem to understand things even when they are spelled out to them. I would think that in this economy the things that we CAN fix would be the first ones addressed. E-verify works and is simple to use (no rocket scientests required).
I am moving to Canada for goverment paid healthcare and education through taxes. The Congress in the U.S. is totally mad, they always sell out our people. and that the rest of you are going to lose everything! CYA! My tax dallors will no longer be paying the national debt! LOL!
I guess it depends on if they send the money to Mexico or spend it here. Money spent here will help our economy and I don't trust E-Verify. The conservatives need to focus on themselves and leave the rest of us alone.
It means that something is very dysfunctional in our government. I cannot understand why it is so difficult for our lawmakers to demand that the laws they have passed be enforced. There should not be any illegals in this country and they certainly should not be given jobs here.
Something is very, very wrong with this picture.
It means that 300,000 illegal "workers" will come like hungry, blood-sucking mosquitos to the yellow porchlight of freedom. And they will bring their children , parents and grandparents.
Consider the source of this information - 'conservative think tanks' - obviously piling on any negative idea they can create to criticize Obama's plans to help turn the country around. If undocumented workers are a certain percentage of the workforce, it stands to reason they will fill a certain pcertage of the jobs created by the government's initiatives. To solve the problem, employers need to get better at confirming resident status of job candidates and the monitoring of our borders needs to improve.
Claire in San Francisco
most construction jobs are very mobile and only selected workers even show up....immigrants show up with waterproof boots and ready to do hand or machinery work. They are paid up to $14.00 an hour and FICA and income taxes are withheld and sent to the US govt.
many will never collect on SS...small business has to stay afloat meet sometime govt deadlines or be penalized. Perhaps our schools need to start on the job training for our young people who now are not interested in hard work and will not – repeat will not show up.
Without VALID SS#s, undocumented workers won't be paying taxes on their earnings. If they're being paid with deductions being taken out on the phony #s they're using, then come Tax Time, the REAL holder of the SS#s will be cited for NOT claiming all of the income he/she/the made. I know... because several years ago this happened to me! It took a Tax Lawyer to prove to the IRS there's no way I could have worked two jobs, 25 miles from each other, during the same daytime hours, because the IRS was too insistent on prosecuting MEfor cheating than they were in looking at the whole picture. I didn't have to pay the taxes, but it cost me $400 MORE to clear my debt with the Tax Attorney who represented me. Where's the fairness in that??
It means that it shoul be 500,000. Only way to pay back for help
ing to build this country. You were not crying when every thing was peachy. Jack you are better suited to hold Lou Dobb's hand
and whine together. We are here to stay get used to it!
Its time you and others like you woke up to the global realities of today. Given that there is an estimated 1/2 million Americans working in Canada, ands millions others working around the globe in other countries, why don't we just ask all countries to adopt our isolationist views and send all of our people home so that they will no longer take the jobs of foreigners in their countries. I am sure we can afford a couple million more Americans in our unemployment lines. Three hundred thousand foreigners in America is nothing compared to the numbers of our own working in their countries.
It means that it should be 500,000. Only way to pay back for help
ing to build this country. You were not crying when every thing was peachy. Jack you are better suited to hold Lou Dobb's hand
and whine together. We are here to stay get used to it!
If I'm not mistaken, it has long been illegal to hire illegals, yet businesses have ignored the law for years and with apparent impunity. To think that our government contractors can also ignore break its own laws is simply mind boggling! E-Verify is one way to make the law work...but of course strict enforcement would also do the job.
No suprise to those of us that are aware of the worlds global elite plans.They are as happy as they can be, by collapsing our country and destroying our soveintry including the destruction of our monitary system. Flooding us with ILLEGAL ALIENS is just a small piece of this puzzle!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!
So the United States Congress would prefer to include a buy American amendment possibly at a higher cost to taxpayers then actually give jobs to Americans? Every country has fools in government, but the US seems to take the cake!
Outraged and angry are not strong enough words. I am a lifelong democrat, but this is wrong in every way. These illegal’s are breaking felony laws every day just being here and falsifying forms. I thought we are a Country of laws. They have destroyed the construction and trade industries by driving down wages and now MY tax money is going to support them while My medically challenged 2 year old daughter and I face homelessness due to an inability to gain employment. Anyone who says these people do not damage our economy had better be willing to start paying to support me or have a job ready for me since these people have taken away my livelihood and threaten my daughters future security and well being. It is not "jobs Americans will not do" It is "jobs Americans will not do at the artificially depressed wages"
It means that those who keep saying they need a job ,either don't need the job or they wont challenge the employerr for the job.
It means we are using the illegals as scapegoats when it is the employers who are the culprits. U.S. employers pay the coyotes to deliver x number of workers and the coyotes also get paid by the illegals to get to the jobs. We need to fine employers and fine them high for using illegal workers.
Hey Jack, I'm surprised that you even have to ask this question. So you understand, this undoubtedly means that American citizens are getting screwed again! Time to torpedo Washington!
Even worse, Jack , is a report that the Senate voted to allow illegal aliens to be eligble for socail security benefits. Please, say it isn't so!
mr cafferty i enjoy you and your comments on a daily basis.But where were you and your cronies in the press 10 or 15 yrs ago when the repubs were distroying the american economy.Not a word but now that the economy is in a rut all this blah blah on a daily basis is so outlandish that i"am finding hard to even listen two you now days get off the roller coaster JACk!!!!!!
Well if 300,000 illegal aliens are working on new construction jobs who should the public blame? illegal aliens applying for the jobs, or construction companies that are hiring illegal aliens? I think that E-verifying is a waste of money it won't work people will find a way around it. The government should make examples of companies that hire illegal aliens by punishing them severely for paying illegal aliens with money from the U.S tax payers.
Given the fact that the USA led the world into this global economic disaster, it seems only fitting that we should share in cleaning it up - including by not worrying if some illegal aliens might benefit. This kind of trash talk belongs on the Dobbs mudcast. Wolffe, it's not worthy of ypu.
Jack, the jobs numbers being kicked around aren't just construction jobs as labor. You're also talking about management, support, safety and infrastructure positions being funded out of this stimulus that could feasably go to illegals.
I'm a programmer who is in constant competition with off-shore resources and H1B visa applicants for jobs across the country, and the last thing I want is my tax dollars to go to a foreign national (legal or illegal) that just took my job because he can afford to work for 50% of the going rate because the dollar is much stronger than whatever currency he's converting it to and sending home!
It simply means you are a racist. It is obvious that the majority of illegal immigrants come from Mexico. You are probably religious, what makes you even bigger a hypocrite. If you think that being born on a piece of land should give you more rights, then you think dumb luck should account for a man's chance of succeeding.
Just another tactic to keep our minds occupied so we won't see whats under the covers. Both sides are allowing this, so that should tell you who is still running the country. Who? Corporations as usual. This country is getting more greedy every day. No more amenities like free air for your tires. You would think they would let you have air just for buying their gas. I hate the arrogance of people coming here illegally, and acting like we owe them something. I guess in mexico, their history teaches that Texas and California rightfully belongs to them. I will go now before I blow a gasket.
Jack, The 300,000 illegal aliens are willing to work for small pay checks when the americans are to spoiled with their $ 30 to $40 dollar jobs. Why work for 8or 9 dollar jobs when they can get more from unemployment pay. I say it again today as I have said before GREED is going to kill this country thanks to the UNIONS and their demands. The American worker has spent himself into jam and wants the Government to bail him out.
How does this happen ?How do we get our leaders to wake up and listen to us ! your web site has everyone protesting against allowing any stimulus money to be used by illegal aliens! Do we need a Fench Revolution type reaction before these out of touch Lobby controlled leadres sense the danger?
This is US suicide. Illegal immigrants have already played a significant role in replacing Americans in a variety of jobs only to send that money back to Mexico to support their families. Very little enhances the American economy. I can't fathom that it is not blatantly obvious that illegal immigrants are further poisoning American economics. One can easily research to find strong evidence that illlegal immigrants are the primary reason for the healthcare and education metl-downs in CA. 85 hospitals and 55 emergency rooms have closed already! This trend is spreading like a disease across America. Illegal immigrants ONLY create cost to America in all facets other than the businesses hiring cheap labor to increase their individual profits.
Based on the past 8 years, it is no surprise President Obama has a lot on his plate, addressing illegal immigration and the ongoing influx MUST be addressed sooner vs. later. We've created a non-profit nation for sake of cheap labor and low cost manufacturing. Not only are the less than mediocre policies in place designed to hinder American workers, healthcare and education reform will fail and only further hurt Americans through ongoing and increased deficits..
E-Verify accuracy rate is 96.6% and gives an answer within two minutes. Evidently, it is too good a program and does not fit into the plans to retry another Amnesty bill by the Senators who had this removed from the package. President Obama's moving the E-Verify requirement back to May indicates he has no intention of implementing it either. Americans should be outraged. I know I am.
That you need to report more of these types of issues! Why do our so called leaders keep selling out our people for cheap labor, isn't that way we need a stimulus package in the first place!
Damit now I am compleltely pissed off!
Let's tell it like it is . . . Republicans don't care about Americans having jobs, they just want their "brothers", the other rich, their ice-tinkling, self-congradulatory, country club brethern to continue raking in the bucks on the backs of struggling workers, and if those laborers are illegals, working for next to nothing, even better for the bottom line. . . friends, all these right-wing egoists care about is money and the delusion that wealth brings power and self-aggrandisment. . .. most people are no more improtant to them than the oil that lubricates their Mercedes. These folks are all about money . . . let 'em eat cake!–tha'ts their credo. That is the core prinicipal of the right wing, neo-conservative idealogues. And they are the anchor that will ultimately sink our ship of state. Unless we wise up, save our money and make out way to the American dream.
It means we have elected a bunch of gutless, brainless incompetents, who got their jobs on the coat tales of a little known Senator from the politically corrupt state of Illinois. The MEDIA never fully vetted Obama and now we are getting what we voted for...."CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN !!!????
We are not COWARDS as Holder stated....but this President is starting to scare the Hell out of lot of Americans. He is rapidly taking us from BAD TO WORSE
What does it mean if 300,000 illegal aliens get jobs americans should get? It means the new administation sucks ass.There is no excuse for delaying the e-verify system.I make $60,000 a year in constuction.Last year I lost $20,000 of it to illegal aliens.One third of my income gone.How can this administration say they are working for us when they are allowing this to continue.What part of illegal dont they understand.
Even worse, Jack, is a report that the Senate voted to allow illegal aliens to be eligible for social security benefits. Please, say it isn't so!
Politicizing this topic is harmful. There are already laws on the books such as requiring the I-9 (verification of permission to work in the US) from all employees who apply to work at any company or with any employer in the US. We do not need additional laws or restrictions which complicate or make doing business in the US more expensive than it already is. When the media do as you are doing, they bring out the worst in Americans, most of whom do not understand the safeguards that are already in our legal systems. What we need now is for the media – like you – to find ways to support efforts to instill confidence in Americans that we will come out of this crisis.
In Downey, CA I had occasion to investigate 50 MacMasions that were currently under construction. In every case, the permitts were pulled as owner builder, and the builders were paid cash under the table. The builder withheld no federal or state taxes, paid nothing into workers compensation, and disreguarded any and all laws like OSHA. None of the builders had contractors licenses as required by law (owner builder does not exempt them from the license law if the cost of the work is over $500, labor plus material) and the majority of the workers were illegal aliens. No wonder the state is going broke. One of the biggests, if not the biggests, businesses in the state is construction, and the state and federal government receives no taxes from them??????
It means that the stimulous isn't designed for people who expect to paid $30/hour or more to dig a hole in the ground plus relocation costs for them and their families. Most of these illegal aliens only baggage is being an illegal alien and I believe if they became legal citizens they would still work for less than most Americans.
Business owners since 1986 have been required to ensure that each employee is authorized to work in the U.S. by completing an I-9 form. Employees must submit documentation, and those who hire must maintain copies. To answer your question, it means either (1) the I-9 form is no longer a requirement for employers, (2) construction employers will ignore this responsibility, or (3) construction employers are exempt from I-9 regulations.
Democrates see illegal aliens as part of thier voter base and will always pander to them and do nothing to stop illegal entry into this country. Illegal aliens have a negative impact on the economy, but Democrats will never admit that.
I believe the REAL question that should be ask, is; will/are Americans, over-educated or not willing to step out of their box for these jobs....my husband works construction....he travels with his job....most of the time we see him only once in 8-10 weeks( for 2 days).....MOST ALL people around us tell us they would/could NEVER live our lifestyle....We have children, it's not easy on any of us....We as a society, had better step up to the plate....or, we can kiss it all good-bye!!!!
Is it any wonder we are now filled with worry and fear because Mexico's druy wars are now coming to our cities and streets.
Well having a system that verifies your citizenship would be the most obvious approach to illegal immigrants having benefit from the stimulus package. But we'll just have to see what the President does on this matter.
Well Jack,you just hit on a sore spot for me. I am an American citizen,53 years old, have been in construction 35 years, and am a quality craftsman with good leadership and management skills. I have been unable to get a decent paying job for over a year. I refuse to work for substandard wages. I have battled these illegals all of my life.
They not only take our jobs and lower our wages, they get free education for thier illegal offspring, free medical at our hospitals, welfare from our government, they drive our roads without license and insurance. Here in Austin, the police have been told to ignore this, even though they are the biggest thieves on our jobsites. When are our elected officials going to enforce the laws we allready have on the books? If you get caught hiring or renting to these people it is a 10,000 dollar fine. Once you enforse these laws, the illegals will leave on thier own without expence to the American taxpayer. Just that simple!
It means corporate greed is still alive and well in this country.......WOW........What a shocker!
That wouldn't be fair Jack, they have ALREADY taken all the construction jobs in Florida and every CITIZEN carpenter, heavy equipment operator and landscaper I know is out of business... unless he's running a crew of illegal Latinos working for half the standard wage!
Our township has put in underground wiring, new curbs and sewers in our neighborhood this year and hardly a one of the guys doing the jobs speak English.
I very much doubt that all construction jobs will be given to illegal workers. However, here in California latinos ( I don't know if they are illegal) seem to be the ones willing to work those jobs. The other jobs that most of us are willing to do are being shipped to India and China. Why is it that we don't make a big deal of that. Corporations ship jobs overseas mostly to Asia. Why don't they solve the problem of immigration by moving some of those jobs to Mexico and El Salvador. (largest population of Latinos) That will prevent them from coming here to work all the wonderful jobs that they are stealing from us. We can pick up crops, do construction and janitorial jobs. I am sick of the media making it sound like immigrants are taking the best jobs away from us. It is the corporations that need cheap labor that are ripping us off.
Illegal aliens contribute to our social security system and likely are propping it up at the moment. They also perform service jobs Americans won't do that pay minimum wage.
Unless Americans change their work ethic and Congress stops taking off most of the session and starts doing its oversight job, we are in deep trouble.
Or rather, we are in deep trouble because of our lack of ethics, our greed and inability to spend within our means.
Don’t get me started Jack, but….of the 300,000 illegal aliens you speak of, most of which are from Mexico, will send most of their earned income back home to support their familes. Of the one’s left, they, along with the others, will not pay any income tax by claiming the max dependants. They will live and work here and consume as little as possible. So the stimulus money will not do its job with this group of people. Besides, it is illegal for these people to live and work here! Don’t enable them!
hi mister cafferty!!!! i didn't hear you 3 or 4 years ago blaming immigrants for their work in construction industry, in prison like conditions, working their backs for 12-14 hours a day in dust, heat and humidity, just to make a lot of money for "real" americans.then, they were very usefull, now that we don't need them anymore, let's get rid of them.yes, i am an immigranat and i worked with some of the "real" americans for two years.i was in the immigrant team who worked twice as fast and twice as good as the americans.but guess what? the credit for the good work went all the time to americans, because they were the guys to speak very well english and the developers didn't even know that we existed, except from the morning and evening when we entered and exited the buildings.it's seems to me that this things doesn't matter in immigration debate that you and other people like you like to blog a lot about...and by the way , do you know what the "real "americans were doing while we were working? smoking weed, from the foreman to the newest apprentice. and this was the rule for all companies where hard working immigrants were employed. good luck in your fight!!!
Any company or State or Local government hiring illegals with Stimulus money should be made to give back the money. The Stimulus money is suppose to put U.S citizens back to work. Since most of our manufacturing jobs have gone to countries that some of these illegals are from, maybe they out to go back to their own country to find a job. P.S. 300 more Americans lost their jobs when Hershey closed another plant and moved it to Mexico.
Dear Jack I have called my two Connecticut senators about the duplicity in Washington with the E-Verify, only to have it fall on deaf ears. I thought the senator were elected to protect American citizens. Have the rules changed that much since I went to school?
Mr. Cafferty, Why don't you talk about how to go about fixing our Economic Situation now Instead of worrying about the Immigrants (legal & Illegal) Not just from Mexico but from all over the world...
Those Immigrants you're worrying about are probably spending the hard work money they earned in their home countries now..
Why don't you ever talk about "ICE" going over the law over and over again and nobody seems to be able to Stop or even make a small dent on their Raids while doing so they're breaking Innocent Families Apart...Why I say this, Well is happening to Our Family Now and they are doing it to a Legal Resident and A complete American Born Family...They just didn't deported our daughters husband but while doing so they're deporting our daughter and her three children, How about that,,,I challenge you to bring it up in your program today...Show the American People Both Sides of the Story....They the Immigrants Come here to Work no matter what kind of work needs to be done, so People like you don't have to do it yourself...I want to see what you're made of...
A right wing think tank did the study, huh? The same ones that brought us the Iraq war? Sorry if I take what they say with a grain of salt.
I wish one will take your job Mr. Cafferty
Well I have never ran into many white drywall hangers except in Montana. I am white and have hung many board feet of sheetrock. I even had a Mexican boss on a construction crew in Montana who had never seen white guys hanging sheetrock. He was in shock for a week. He came from Arizona expecting a Mexican crew on a Federal job. All you complainers about illegals better think about who might have hung the walls in your house? You better start pumping iron if you want a job.. Oh I forgot there are no houses being built, sorry. Well I guess it's harvesting lettuce and picking peaches. How many of you are willing to work the produce fields of California or pick peaches in Georgia? Come on we need a lot of these people. You city people would not last a day picking peaches in Yakima. Or come to Montana and harvest sugar beets or stack hay bales by hand that really sucks.
Sorry, I was thinking of my Dad in Korean my oldest brother died in Vietnam.
It means you should feel lucky you have a job, Jack.
I beleive there will be more than the estimated number of illegal aliens in the United States working illegally and getting all of these jobs while congress does nothing to prevent it from happening. They are all getting paid from these major industries and that is why they don't want to address the concern. Just like Microsoft and other major companies in the United States who employs foreign workers as H1B's, H2B's, L1's, and other workers. They state that they need these workers because nobody in the United States are qualified or has the education for these jobs. But in reality, these companies underpay these foreign workers compared to American workers and that is what discourages U.S. workers from working for these major companies. Any alien from another country would take a job that pays them $70,000.00 plus. The company might state that they offer the same salary to a U.S. worker but what is not shown is that Microsoft has it's own apartment or living areas for their workers that is deducted from their pay check. They probably have to live in the housing that Microsoft has as part of the agreement in their employment contracts. At the same time, our Congress leaders let this happen while our U.S. citizens cotinue to lose jobs to foreigners. The U.S. also continues to issue out work visias for these companies to allow foreigners to come into the U.S. and take our jobs from us. With the unemployment rate rising so quickly, we should have stopped issuing work visas for all companies in the U.S., require companies to send the foreign workers home, and have the companies employ U.S. workers. Companies that don't comply, fine them where it really hurts. "U.S. CITIZENS FIRST!!!" We need to take care of our citizens before we start helping other foreigners and at the same time, helping these major busniessess get richer. But then again, Bill Gates owns Congress.
I was told by someone who works in a hosptial that they charge $20 to illegals to give birth to a child. Last time I had a baby it cost me a way over $20 and I have insurance. The fact that they are buying groceries and paying rent doesn't offset the lack of taxes they contribute or the medical care they don't pay for or the children our taxes pay to educate. Not to mention ESL teachers and on and on. If they were paying in their fair share, then the entire situation would be different. But they aren't.
Nobody really managed to take propely care of the immigrant problem,so,They are here and should better be counted as a "regular"
work force.Who has a better solution??
It means there is NO CHANGE in government. They say we will cut "pork" in the 2010 budget, so when people forget about it! Why doesnt the citizens stand up to their senators or reps? We are the only people that can change this, Obama isnt going too...ya it sounded great during the campaign, but once you get in that oval office, those corrupt senators and reps say, oh sorry sir you cant tell us what to do. Its sickening whats happening to this country... We live in a scary world Jack!
They're gonna get first crack.Why?Because they work cheaper and will take a lot of harrassment and abuse,i.e.violation of human rights and labor laws,before they complain.How in the heck we can call ourselves a sovereign nation yet deliberately allow illegal immigrants solely to deny citizens jobs is mind-boggling!
Don'T touch tHis subject. They elected Husein Obam in the office so now they demand 300k jObs and COMPREHENSIVE EMIGRATION (CITIZENSHIP)!
To Mickie: How in the world is this the republicans fault? When I last looked the dems had control(61 if you include the 3 republican by title only in the senate), large majority in the house, and the socialist president. When are you loons going to realize that Bush is no longer in office and the republicans are now the minority.
As someone from California, I can tell you it seems like mostly illegal aliens work in construction in general. It is just how things are. Im not worried because those aren’t the jobs most Americans want. Cheap labor and government capital is how this nation was built. Illegal aliens are the ones that are going to rebuild this nation. It has always been this way and it will continue to be this way.
That even as 700 people line up for 1 janitor job our congress still is willing to take care of illegal’s first while Americans are long everything, are we doomed to repeat the past, come on congress we have people living in tents that have lost their jobs, cars, and homes. Help our people first for once!
Another problem is foreign entities operating in the U.S. that violate state and federal employment law with impunity, by discriminating against minorities. Ask me about my experience with Canadian Mining conglomerate, Teckcominco, Inc..
Companies should be forced to use e-verify. Any company found to have undocumented workers on the their payroll should get high fines and executives get jail time. When I ran companies we use e-verify and systems like it, they were easy and worked great. The documented workers we used were some of our best employees for they were hard working and had a real great work ethic.
In this economy it should be a crime for companies to use undocumented workers while we have such high unemployment. If our lawmakers do not want to back e-verify we should get them out of office.
The e-verify program was removed because it is flawed with too many inaccuracies AND does not face the Illegal alien issue regarding inaccurate records keeping and misidentification. The individual states can do what they want as far as LEGAL verification requirements but with this e-verify system its just too many holes in it to be effective. Groups are throwing out all kinds of #'s like 300.000 and 500.00 just to fan the flames of anger because of this economic crisis we are facing. Let the states handle this situation until this e-verify system is fixed of its many flaws. Should illegal aliens get jobs that Americans should get? Absolutely not but this has been going on for years & years, so Americans should demand of THEIR Representatives to fix the problem, this just didn't happen in 2009 Jack!
it means that this administration is probobly going to be as week on imigration as the last several administration's.
this is one issue we also need to resolve and put greed aside along with peoples feelings and political correctness.
if pres obama want to see thing improve with his master economic plan he better get on this issue and fix it as well in a big hurry.
Its the same stuff different day! People do not want to correct the illegal immigration issue and many corporations are benefiting and saving millions on healthcare and benefits by hiring illegals. Until we get serious about "CHANGE" nothing will actually change. We need to get those rich executives out of office, because they line the pockets of Congress so they will be protected.
That the blogs will be getting a lot more people at are pissed off like me! Think about it it’s the middle of the day and I am blogging again!
It means George W. Bush did not do his job and police our borders. How about the drug wars on the border? What does that mean for us all? Ralph, Yakima, Wa.
It means that an illegal alien should take your job, Jack, at half the pay and ask questions that don't start with "What does it mean ...".
Looks like Lou Dobbs has his work cut out on this one :-) .... Maybe when Illegal aliens apply for a stimulus job there should be a INS agent in a back room that will deport them immediately? oh wait; that would be fair to US taxpaying citizens and therefore absolutely incomprehensible to our government!
A legal US citizen who fought for this country
That the blogs will be getting a lot more people that are pissed off like me! Think about it it’s the middle of the day and I am blogging again!
That American are less valued by our Congress, and that we are third class people in our own country!
It means you unemployed people with degrees need to get your act together! Sure you might be over-educated for the job, but show some humility. Get out there and work – even if it is a job that seems beneath you. Stop complaining you "can't get a job" when what you're really saying is "I want a job paying the $100,000 annual salary that I deserve", knowing that the economy just can't do that for you right now. Get off your high horse and take any job you can get! Or is it more dignified – dare I say profitable – for you to collect unemployment? You know that's just more burdening to the system. Ah, but what the hell – you have your pride to consider, right?
Well-Jack, I'm going to have a job soon so I can sent some money to my family in El Salvador. Thanks to all those senators, thank you Obama.
God bless America
The land of the free...
What a loaded question (following a posit by conservative think tank). Many employers here use e-verify; if they don't, they are the ones contributing to the problem, not the Administration's stimulus package. If American citizens don't show up and stand in line for the jobs and an illegal does and gets it, that's not the Administration's fault. The illegals I've come in contact with are hard-working folks, doing their best to contribute in a society where the odds are stacked against them. Here they go, looking for scapegoats once again.
Nice! Real nice!
We 50-somethings sit here in our home (fully paid, no mortgage – we stayed out of debt like we thought we were supposed to) with no income, no available jobs, no unemployment benefits, almost $10K of property taxes due each year, and nothing better to do than watch the news all day.
It's good to know the American government is going to provide jobs to the very people (illegals) who helped to destroy our small construction business (the final nail driven in by this economy). It's not providing any jobs for Americans in construction here in south Jersey.
I'm sure when all our savings and our home is gone, the American government won't mind writing a few more checks to citizens like us in order to get us off the streets, right?
Jack I hate to say it but this country is done. Congress dumping on Americans to keep giving a free ride to illegals and the trash that hire them when the economy is in this mess is just nuts.
Members of congress that want this to continue because their rich supporters and lobbyist for illegals pay them off should be tried for treason and jailed accordingly. I would strip them and their families of U.S. citizenship when they got out of jail. I always thought people in government we suppose to uphold the law not ignore it so they and their crone friends can make a buck. Bet all this trash in congress wear little flag pins while they continue to sell out America.
I've never believed when people said that illegals do jobs most Americans won't do. It should be that illegals do jobs most Americans won't do for pay less than the legal amount. I have seen it with my own eyes how companies hire illegals. Even when they have documentation (fraudulent), they would still be hired, but at min. wage. The problem is that these jobs would normally pay about $10/hr or more. But they know the illegals won't complain.
The President made us a promised that this would not happen and that the Congress made him into a lair!!!
Jack, this only shows that we have a failed policy towards Mexico. We should annex Mexico. We feed and supply jobs for the poorest of their poor, pay to fight a Drug War and too support their corrupt Government. We Should Take Their Oil , Farm Land and anything else they have of value and only return to those who choose to be the loyal Americans they all seem to want to be. Jack From Nice Ca.
tell me this jack. are you willing to work at tyson foods for nothing inside one of those plants, or if you lost your job work at a store at min. wage with 15 hrs overtime with no extra pay or benefits. because i don't see whites or blacks willing to do it. especialy when we already know they are wrong. we all know there's something wrong when the employee only makes enough to put gas in the car to come to work and go home or that whole check goes to day care, and the top 10 people make 15 times more that the hard working floor guy. on top of that they probably employ the same illeagal from the site to keep up their place. hold that thought. i guess so during these days that's if you can get a job wich is either taken for pennies or already gone. thanks to who. the big guys.
We have plenty of bankers with enough time to pick some fruit too put the illegals on a train outa here!
Jack, we here in Arizona passed a State bill that won't let illegals work without proper documentation.
For my 20 years ligaly in this country. This is just another simple exsample how politition say one thing and doing another for us AMERICANS
Jack, it simply means "business as usual" which it seems is the Obama brand of change "that we can believe in" promised during the election campaign. Obama and the Democrats don't want illegal immigration controlled, too much of their power base depends on the good will of the minorities that want open borders. So, don't cry because the illegals are taking the stimulous jobs, for half the pay, open border folks are simply getting what they asked for. Don't like it, try calling your Senator and Congressmen and get e-verify reinstated.
Lance, Ridgecrest, Ca
it means that the government cares for illegal aliens, more than they care for americans. if we cant take care of the people who were born and raised here we have no business letting illegal immigrants in to steal american jobs and send money back to mexico. the border needs to be taken over by the us military, thats the only way to secure it. if we cant take care of our own borders we have no business being over seas. i used to love this country but that country is no more
Are you kidding? It's all about money. Always has been, always will be . . . until our species evolves into something more enlightened than a Republican. We're all in this together, folks, but in America, you gotta put Americans first. At least for now. Jack, you're the man.
It just shows how incredibly stupid we have become as a people. We keep voting for the same politicians every election believing that they will change.
As long as they are able to sell their votes to the highest bidder, they won't change. Wake up America... the banksters weren't alone in creating this mess. They had the help of people like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Diane Feinstein, Rep. Pelosi, Rep. Boehner, and Rep. Campbell to name just a few of the sensters and housters.
I vote that we keep Gitmo open and send every member of Congress that accepted financial contributions in exchange for their votes there for a very long vacation.
Then we make e-Verify mandatory.
I remember the golden cry of how illegal aliens are "doing the jobs that Americans won't do". So what is the rally cry now to justify this mess.
I wonder what the construction worker living in the tent city in CA's state capital would say about 300,000 illegal aliens getting offered a job. This is a disgrace!
When you stand up for fellow Americans they call you a protectionist. Guess what, I don't give a hoot what they call me. I'm going to stick up for Americans any chance I get.
It means 300,000 legal American citizens are once again getting the shaft from our leaders who claim to care about us. Our country seems to be on the fast track to become a thrid world country. Is this what our leaders really want?
Well what it really means is the Republicans can have cheap labor and the Democrats can have 300,00 illegals working and staying in the country until Obamas promised amnesty can put them on the socialist public assistance path and turn them into good little Democrats.
How's this for irony Jack? Republicans want to destroy unions right? Well guess who they said would be getting most of these jobs? That's right-non-union construction labor. These laborers would have to be citizens in order to properly join a union
people need to get real, wake up, get off their couch, and get a job. If people are tired of these illegal aliens taking U.S jobs, take it away from them! The fact that democrats and liberals don't care about millions of illegal immigrants coming into this country is pathetic and should re-consider their position on the problem.
Can he not just focus on the economy..... banks only, jobs only, Americans only.....and I don't care if "Bernardo legally in America" disagrees.
It was the SENATE that stripped the e-verify condition out of the stimulus bill.
Was bipartisan .
But not the House of Reps, nor Nancy Pellosi 's fault!
Senators completely removed e-verify condition !
if means that we take of everyone but, america people know wonder we are in the shape we are in
That we need e-verify it is no different then any back ground check, so check everyone or pay the price, of people our people not paying thier taxes anymore! We are not ATMs, to take care of every other nation!!
We can no longer point the finger at Michael Steele for not having a backbone and bowing to Limbaugh. Illegal immigrants are the Rush Limbaugh's to the democratic party.
This is not a recession this is a depression, fathers,sons, mothers, heads of households out of work....and our President would allow illegal aliens to take 300,000 construction jobs......this is outrageous if not criminal. The Senate is looking at a very bad outcome from this they should have required the e-verify by Homeland Security. I can't even retire, I have to worry about my social security, all this time saying they couldn't afford it but the found the money to bail out wall street. Citizens come first in this country, not the illegals we pay the taxes not them , I will not vote for any politician that supports this and I think it is time for everyone to straighten this injustice out.
Which party was responsible for the provision being removed? If you want to get people riled up, gives us some FACTS so we can contact the proper people to express our feelings on the matter.
Just as under the Bush administration, the government's willingness to employ 300,000 illegal workers for construction jobs under the stimulus program instead of legal workers in our country means one thing: to acquire cheap labor for greedy employers who support their political campaigns and to eventually secure their votes when these illegal workers are made legal, many of our politicians are still willing to betray the American worker and in the process sell their very souls. Our country would be far better off if they packed their bags and left Washington, never to return.
jack, it warms my heart that my great grand-children will be paying off the debt from this stimulus bill and that 10% of the construction wages will go to illegal immigrants. And that like New Orleans, the contractors will probably not have to pay minimum wages. Don't you love the Senate for being responsible to the American people to protect, defend our laws and uphold the Consititution. Here, they make the laws, but themselves are above the law. Vote the Bums out.
This question is awful crazy, when a White person begin to ask about how 300,000 illegal aliens and immigrants will benefit from the stimulus bill within the same comment. What a joke! I think that your question should have been more about the greedy White person hiring them. After all, greed is what got us in this mess that required a stimulus bill in the first place Jack Cafferty? This is the typical slick way, of channeling your angry butt toward someone else to mask your own shortcomings. Now that I think about it, having they been here about 25 to 30 years. I Hope you fully understand my comment, because I fully understand yours.
If your a legal citizen of the U.S. fine, if your "ILLEGAL" GO HOME! I am sick and tired as most U.S. born citizens are of our illegal PROBLEM! They know the U.S. government want do anything so they take advantage of us. We owe Illegals nothing, what have we done for the American Indian, we took their land, I don't see the government doing anything for them. Americans better wake up, there are no jobs out there, now , and it is getting worse by the day! Let's continue to be STUPID,by not checking to see if the Mexican we hire is Illegal or not ! Saying a U.S. citizen want do the work a Mexican will is not true , that's an easy out ! Pretty soon we will be one big Country with No Jobs, then what? Do we feed the U.S. born citizens first or the ILLEGALS? Answer that one !
Dear Jack; Let me answer your question with one of my own. When
the American people can no longer take what is now going on in our
country, and they take to the streets by the millions do you think that
the Corp.States of America will have the polititions that they control
order the American military to turn the guns on their own people and
start killing us? Just think for every American citizen killed they can
replaced with illigal aliens.
It means that the government isn't doing it's job. It also means the illegals are taking the jobs that Americans don't want and wouldn't take anyway. Why work for $4 an hour when you can collect unemployment that pays $9.50 an hour?
Please Mr. Cafferty, read this one. 'It means that, as always, immigrants (most of us hispanics) are willing to do the kind of jobs, you Mr. Cafferty and other americans, Do Not Want To Do, or Can Not Do. I can not imagine you nailing shingles on a roof, under a 100 degrees summer sun in Louisiana. We are willing to break our backs, doing the hard work required in the construction industry, just to have the chance to feed our families. It is ironic that until now, when times are difficult, you criticize immigrants. You did not talk about us, when you enjoy the product of our job: your beautiful houses, your roads, your bridges, your buildings. Please Mr. Cafferty, find somebody else to blame. We are here to work, and with our work, to make America a better place to live for you and your families. Economic problems are hitting us too. Do not add hate to our difficult situation. By the way, We Pay Taxes Too.' Show me that you do not only read on TV comments that agree with yours.
we as american citizens are third world bound, and Obama isn't the reason why we are in this mess. you give places money to fix and they still go out the country to get workers. disrespectful to the taxpayers. and wolf b. let GM fall. they should of dumped the union. you can't come up there and say i'll pay myself $1 per year when it don't really hurt you. you are rich. anymore bailout money to useless place and i'll just let my trucking compay fail and see what happens. maybe i can find a new way to make money in a lump some for screwing up something that i knew was failing.
Well since these are government contract jobs and taking into account that the illegals will get paid $20000.oo plus per person, we can figure that somewhere in the area of $600 million will be sent to families still residing in other countries. We already know that illegal Mexicans in this country last year sent approximately $45 billion back home. And this will stimulate OUR economy? HOW?
Economics 101: money paid to somebody that is legally living and working in the US means the government will get 30% back in income tax, 6% back in sales tax and 30% will be spent in the local economy.
Illegal immigrants do not pay tax and send the lions share of their income back to their home country. A US worker earning $12 per hour is the equivalent of an illegal worker earning $4/hour.
Come on, Jack. I didn't have to read anything else after"two conservative think tanks". Not many folks in America believe conservatives who lie feely any longer.
That Amricans are nothing less then a ATM Machine for funding other nation!
Interesting that two conservative think tanks highlighted this...it would be advantageous to have this information verified by unbiased sources before introducing it into a discussion.
I will say this much–immigration does need to get reformed somehow or another.
But keeping that in mind, this great nation was built on the backs of immigrants, "legal" or "illegal". But let's not open that can of worms....
It means USA Today will publish any drivel from a right wing think tank as it endeavors to make us think it's a real newspaper. It also means you'll pick up on any unsubstantiated drivel just to give your fans something to vent about. You can put yourself in the "I hope he fails" column if you want, but ANYONE living in this country who becomes employed is ultimately good for this country. Let's keep our eye on the ball here – illegal immigrants didn't bring derivative swaps with them from Mexico so stop the scapegoating.
Check the sources before you get your knickers in a knot; "Studies by two conservative think tanks ... " now I wonder what their hidden agenda is?
Even Mitt Romney hired a company that hired undocumented workers – twice! If business does not want to be regulated by Congress ( the old Republican idea of cowboy economics and anything goes ... then business needs to regulate itself.
Is the Conservative Think Tank advocating a "nanny state" ??
I live in Winnipeg,Canada and we are seeing no evidence of a recession here,infact business is booming and house prices are increasing.
That Congress thinks that Americans do not deserve jobs in their own country!
Would John McCain be any better if he was elected president? Give President Obama a chance to do something. We gave Bush 8 years and look where that got us.
Jack, because you are in the country illegally does not mean you do not pay taxes. If you get a paycheck, you pay taxes also. Which means, they are tax payors, also.
It is certainly a shame IF 300,000 illegal aliens get jobs, however I read your blog to state they COULD get these jobs. A cow could jump over the moon too. Most employers know better than to employ illegals. Almost every above board job requires the employees to have valid social security numbers or green card status. No the bill does not obligate employers to check citizenship, but it does not prevent it either. Most illegals really do not want to draw attention to themselves by taking highly sought after jobs. Seems like your blog was just a way to get the already riled up another nail to hang their hats on. Give me a call, or send an email, WHEN illegals start taking jobs away from American citizens, between now and then, lay off the rhetoric.
If 300,000 illegals benefit from the stimulus job creation, undoubtedly that will mean 3 million more coming across the border illegally. And since we are supposed to be the consumer nation of the world, and without Americans being employed, how can we consume anything?
Ergo, we can ruin every economy around the world; but then again, they all can ruin us, since it seems they hold the majority of our debt obligations.
Not only in California Josh, there are so many jobs I have applied for here but did not get them because they require you to speak Spanish. I am so fed up with this crap.
Correction illegal immigrants are the Rush Limbaugjhs to Capital Hill period. We cant seem to put right and wrong in their proper places. If you are an elected official for America then your American constituents should have the sovereignty
Now that I've lost my job I guess it won't matter. I can't be taxed to pay for it.
The United States probably only has about 10-15 years left, the way its going before it becomes a third world nation and the crime in Mexico will seem like nothing compared with what we will have here.
Our nation of (un-enforced) laws is becoming a joke. We can't police ourselves, yet we try to go around the world and police everyday.
Thank you Jack for saying "illegal immigrants" and not simply "immigrants" in general to refer to the population that hopped our fence without permission. I am alarmed at the various news agencies referring to illegals as simply "immigrants." There is a huge difference between Illegal immigrant population and Legal immigrant population, primarily those here legally, respected and followed US law...But the news media has done little to differentiate.
I have a friend who is dating a guy here illegally from Mexico. He's been a construction worker for over 10 years, making 30 dollars an hour under the table. Over the years he's brought in more relatives who do similar work and earn similar wages. I have lived here all my life. I have two degrees from a university and I have yet to see 30 dollars an hour and I still have very hungry student loans to feed. I am so angry that the potential beneficiary of our governments stimulus package could be 300,000 illegals. Every cent should be going to someone that actually belongs here.
These are jobs that some Americans won't do, therefore companies are relying on indocumented immigrants to do so. They are here to work and try to provide a better life for their families. They don't mind to take on any job!
Arizona has been a proponent of the e-verify program which has proved quite successful. Yes many of the illegals in Phoenix have slithered back to Mexico in the dead of night. They will soon be back in anticipation of the stimulus and I predict that there will be blood in the streets when they take jobs from U.S. citizens!
I heard you say it is Monday and you are already depressed! Guess what! With all this ever changing life conditions, you cannot afford nor do you have the luxury anymore to be depressed about anything!
Now we are getting a taste of how the Native Americans felt. Unasked and unwanted, the whites moved in, spread out, killed their buffalo, stole their land, forced them onto reservations, wrecking their ability to continue their lifestyle and threatening their very survival. Now we are upset that illegals are coming here, unasked, unwanted and interfering with our way of life. I don't like it either, but can't help but wonder if it's a bit of payback.
I always knew that our socialist president Barack Hussein Obama would help the illegal aliens. He is rewarding them for breaking the law. On the other hand, he needs them to help re elect him in 2012. In the words that Ronald Reagan said in 1984 "You ain't seen nothing yet.". This is only the tip of the iceberg. It is going to get worse.
Jack, three hundred thousand illegal aliens taking American jobs because of not using e-Verify this does not seem to make sense? I heard that e-Verify is around 99.7 percent accurate, isn’t that actually better than our Court System! This is the same thing President Bill Clinton said while working on universal health care coverage? Who is going to pay for these people’s health care they will likely not be paying any taxes? Why would President Obama whom I voted for not keep his promise about this? He should veto any new legislation until it is included! Our Senate knows health care reform will not succeed without this, probably the point! After five years or so we could be in a more able position to help Mexico with its employment and health care problems! Martin, in the other Washington
Hi Jack, must you be such a party pooper? You could show just a tiny bit more enthusiasm about Ted Kennedy's party. You make me laugh all the same.
It is just a tactic to keep you mad as hell and not know what is really going on. Just recently in New Orleans 4 people were shot and killed in a robbery by two illegals, one from El Salvador and one from Honduras. My point is, we have enough criminals here already. But all this is part of a bigger plan. Stay tuned.
... I guess this is one more fact which shows us, that this country is being ran by corrupted officials who care about money not the country's well being or its citizens.....
Why do you come up with questions such as this one implying Obama is going to give illegal immigrants jobs? The next thing you know it will be gospel truth and Rush will have a field day with it. It deliberately angers a certain part of the population and many naive people will believe it is actually happening. I am offended with this type of journalism.
Jeri at 3:31 pm, English is not the official language of our country. We don't have one. How do you pick one language when there are several languages indigenous to various areas of our country. If you want to pick one of the oldest, most spoken, dominant languages then it wouldn't be English. It would be Spanish.
tO THE GUY THAT SAID " THEY SPEND MONEY HERE"
I worked at a post office in Alaska and Oregon.
Check postal records on how much money is sent to Mexico by immigrants, legal or illegal.
We have been losing jobs to illegal aliens for years and they have been sending a lot of their money to their home country so what has this country gained? Its a shame that illegals are more important to some people in this country than an American who was born here. My son lost his job but the two people are from a different country and they still have a job. Its not fair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm confused. Shouldn't we be using the stimulus money to hire more INS agents to round up these illegal immigrants and send them back. Also, using the stimulus money to hire more border patrol agents would be a good thing.
Giving lawbreakers our tax dollars is just wrong.
Hurrah Jack and thanks for making people aware of this deficiency.
My understanding was that Obama campaigned for the American worker and now to politely skip over E-verify, and not require that the Stimulus bill go to American workers and not illegals in the job creation is abomniable!! Same old politican, new face.
I wrote to the president ,on this very issue, and was never even acknoledged so I took it to be true
Keep up the good work.. SAVE AMERICA for its citizens. Let those who would apply legally do so, but stop the free benifits for those aren't here legally.
Another to stop is the allowing illegals in the US Armed Forces...
Would you like to go into action alongside another that doesn't give a
damn about our country?
Since your own Lou Dobbs made such a dramatic big deal of the immigration problem (if you can really call it that), the "big deal" is now taking a back seat to more important things. Actually, those "illegals" probably would return most of the stimulus money into the economy, more than what the rich people are doing.
While I believe in legal immigration (like my grandparents did, thank God), the illegals need to find out that the border is open going south,too! 20 million illegals aren't here for the climate, they are here to undercut American wage earners, pure and simple. Mexico and Central America have great potential, yet they are content to simply export labor rather than foster real growth in their own back yard.
The fact that this 300,000 figure is produced by a 'conservative' think tank (oxymoron?), is suspect, but its the employers who are doing the hiring of all those 'illegals', so making the 'illegals' sound like they 'taking' all of our jobs is just simply inciting....but what else is new....keep up the great journalism CNN......you might get it right sometime....
It is interesting how we thing that these jobs are just going to immigrant on a silver platter. Lets face the truth not a lot of American's like us are willing to do the work. Yes this is our are tax dollars at work but if we as American's wish not to do these type of job/think it is beanith us i say let them do it, because i would much rather see an engineer's work of marvel than a picture in an open lot of what should be there.
Jack, I'm highly dubious of the figure, considering the source. But even if it were accurate, it would mean that 300,000 people were living in US housing, pushing up the housing market, shopping in US stores, pushing up the retail sector, and eating US food, pushing up the agricultural sector. Would I prefer the jobs go to people who play by the rules? Sure. But the bottom line is that stimulus is what's needed. Let's not dwell on who will be doing the stimulating.
Why is it socialism to use our tax money to help Americans but it just fine to use it to help the rest of the world-whether they want our help or not? It seems we have to put everyone else first and it is evil to help the workers of this country especially.
The fact that this so-called "study" was done by TWO CONSERVATIVE THINK TANKS tells me all I need to know. What better way to turn Americans against the stimulus by starting this same old tired culture war of "us" versus "them." These people are desperate!!
They are doing a "study" about something that hasn't even happened yet and belching out numbers as facts. First Obama is a socialist, then now he is using 15% of the stimulus to help the " illegals." This is getting more and more ridiculous.
I am a college graduate with very hungry student loans. I need a job. I can't believe that the US gov can hunt me down for my past school loans but can't sift out illegals becoming the beneficiary of our governments stimulus package. It's a shame.
it doesn't mean anything Jack. How many jobs are CURRENTLY held by illegal aliens?
we aren't doing anything about them now, so what's 300,000 more?
i think people are starting to take notice because their tax dollars are suppsed to be creating these jobs. but unemployed americans shouldn't like me shouldn't care too much. it's not like we have jobs to pay taxes that will be used to fund this.
and if i don't get one of these newly created jobs, i won't be paying taxes in the future either.
i may end up homeless, but at least i'll be debt free. Thanks Washington.
What can possibly be in the minds of these politicians in Washington?There are millions of Americans out of work and many are losing their homes to foreclosure and these loonies in Washington want to pass legislation to possibly allow illeagal immigrants ,who are breaking our laws by even being in our country, 300,000 jobs by using stimulis funds.. I was all for giving President Obama a chance to carry out his plans but this is a hororable thing to allow .. It's our tax money !!!!!!!!! . WAKE UP WASHINGTON !!!!!
We should contact our senators and ask WHY it wasn't included.
In this economic climate all of our citizens should have the opportunity first – Enforce the laws that are on the books! The first contractor hit with that fine will serve as a lesson to them all.
That is what is really wrong now with our system the laws on the books are not being enforced – we the people are to blame – if we emailed and call our representives, which would shut down their systems, we would get the results we are looking for.BTW that includes the bankers and the rest of thiefs of Wall Street!
I have already sent emails to my representatives and I encourage everyone to do the same!
I believe with all my heart, our very own president and many politicians hate the american people who have lost so many in the wars in order to keep our country free. now we as americans are having to hand over everthing we worked and prayed and sacrficed lives for in order to give it to those who have no business in the usa to begin with. we are the citizens who built america, based on God, our creator as our leader. We have to press one for english, we had to change all the rules to fit the aliens, we have to turn over our medical care. Who are you Obama? Certainly not a man of God and not an american loving citizen.
I am so sick of people slamming immigrants and/or the working poor for stuff that is not their fault. If they are taking our jobs, it is only because there is not a native english speaker that has applied for it, or is willing to do the same work for the money being offered. Do you honestly think a smart employer would prefer to hire people who barely speak english? Give me a break! Americans are lazy and pretty much averse to manual labor. Ever tried to get a neighbor kid to mow your lawn or pull weeds for minimum wage?
Maybe this economy will teach people to be willing to actually do manual labor again.
This is typical traitor politics by obama, reid, pelosi, durbin, gutierez, kennedy and their senate sycophants. They made sure that e-verify was nowhere near this stimulus bill and they know the money will go to construction companies and organizations who hire illegal mexicans to do the work and profit from illegal alien issues.
Obama and his traitor crew have already made it clear that 'white construction workers' need not apply and they are holding e-verify hostage until the newest amnesty this year. What a joke our government is when they actually think that Americans don't know what's going on?
Traitors are an easy read and this is 'too' easy.
Enforce the laws on the books. Fine employers for hiring illegal employees.
I am now an unemployed electrican, and illegal aliens are now doing my job.
The only way the science of stem cell research would be separated from politics is when not one dollar of taxpayer money is used in this process. By the way, you talk about the republicans becoming irrelivent. Could they be more irrelevent than you moving from WNBC to CNN and your small audience?
Now does that 300,000 include the cheap guest workers that the GOP lobbied so hard to get for their buddies?
How is it that the loudmouths over at the GOP even have a voice to complain with? Or credibility? Or an audience to care?
Before we decide "not" to prosecute these bastions of free enterprise, lets take a moment to recollect exactly who's watch this clusterf___ happened on in the first place.
The GOP needs to sit down and shutup before we remember who's fault this really is!
Lovely, I've been an american since the day I was born here in michigan, Ihurt my ack at WORK!!! and I get very little help with anything I've lost my house a couple cars and even a family dog I don't get any stimulus to help me I payed my Taxes for plenty of years, and have been fighting for MY SOCIAL SECURITY which they say is my right to have it. well i have been fighting that for four very long years and we are going to give illeagle aliens some of this stimulus!!! What a JOKE. I have supported Obama and even used my time to help campaign by using my phone to call people to VOTE for him and this is how I get repaid, I'm ready to go to Iraq, they seem to get more of our money than we do! I'm going on my fifth back surgery and walk with crutches have been on very strong pain meds for all this time and I keep getting told that I can work by Social Security, What kind of COUNTRY do We live in, Where we can't even take care of our own people, I'm not trying to rip off the system like so many people that I know, I just want what I put into this system and is rightfully mine!!! I could use that stimulus to feed my three kids and wife UNBELIEVABLE......
Yes I'm worried about it because my husband just got laid off from a construction job. And what's going to happen when he tries to find another job? Mabey Hillary Clinton will forget sending $900 million out of this country and send it to some of the people who are out of jobs, the people who have lost their homes, the people who have lost everything! We are here trying to figure out how we are going to pay our bills and people are giving/sending money for PIG ODOR RESEARCH and to bail out AIG YET AGAIN and not sending it to the people of the United States who need it. HELP US, the ones that are unemployed, homeless and getting very close to hopeless!
Obama is not making the distraction here, the media is. All the president did was sign an executive order, there was no legislation; the media are the ones keeping this topic in discussion.
First of all, I'd want another source of information rather than two conservative "think" tanks. Second, if in fact this many illegal aliens got jobs from the stimulus it means that a lot of companies are hiring them. Who should we go after – the illegal aliens or the companies giving them jobs?
Hey Jack,regarding your last question– excuse my language, but why in hell would anyone listen to any Republican, when all they have done is screw up the public for the last 8 years ????? Pres.Obama has done more for the public in the past 40 days than the Republican bums have done in the last 8 years !!!!!!!!
A. The senate should be called out on this, not Obama. They removed it rom the house version
B. eVerify, while not 100% accurate, is far more accurate than any other method of employment status.
C. The jobs created should be filled with those legal allow to perform them
Give the Devil his due...most illegal immigrants will work at whatever job is available, and will do whatever it takes for their families to survive. Many Americans won't.
This new 300,000 job figure doesn't discount the fact that Americans have been giving up jobs to these folks for years. Now, all of a sudden we're upset about it.
What does it mean If (WHEN) Illegal Aliens get Stimullus Jobs because E-Verify is not Used....
For Federal Employment or contracts it means that National security could be jepardized, potential terrorists working on Military Installations and Airports.
For honest hard working U.S. CITIZENS it means their jobs will be outsourced in their own country!
Creating jobs for illegals that should go to AMERICANS is a dispicable thing on the part of Obama. No one is saying that immigrants shouldn't get jobs it's a problem with ILLEGALS obtaining these jobs. It has nothing to do with Americans not wanting these jobs...that's a lie, Americans want these jobs. It's just the liberal media and Obama's administration stating that we don't want these jobs so they can justify employing ILLEGALS. The reason why the U.S. is in trouble is partly to do with ILLEGALS DRAINING the American system. My brother is working hard to find employment as well as millions of Americans but can't because some illegal will be given the job. I say, we round up all illegals and throw them over the border and make them Mexico's problem not ours.
Also, Casey in Sebastopol, CA you're an idiot God forbid if you lose your job to an ILLEGAL.
Jack, why not offer all illegals to become legal alliens by proving that they lived in the US for more than five years. Charge them a fee of a thousand dollars plus any additional family member and back taxes for the years they lived here and work , give them a chance to learn English as part of the program and we will have a surplus.
Jack I have been in the mortgage industry for 26 years and residing in Southern California. Every morning, when I drive to work I see a group of Mexican construction workers waiting for contract construction jobs. I agree that the jobs should be available to US citizens however I have yet to see any American standing in line for these jobs! Nobody is stopping Americans for applying for these jobs!! Keep in mind that these people are being paid under the minimum wage and the employers are probably not paying any payroll taxes. I would be more that happy to provide you with the location so your reporters can see it for themselves.
Dear Jack; it figures I have had my suspicions that the stimulus was only benefiting the businesses and the wealthy so they have snuck one in on me, its real ugly out hear and I almost forgot about are illegal Alien Problem, but I have to admit that the majority of construction and landscaping, gas stations, restaurant jobs are Hispanic looking workers. Jack its unbelievable and it makes you think are they here legally and no offense but I do my best to stay away from them places because I do not want to support someone doing illegal business under mining my fellow American. In my Opinion and view Jack
Why does this not surprise me? Someone is surely getting one hell of a back scratch. The Gov't has become a joke and they are just as guilty to blame for our economic turmoil as are the large, greedy corporations. All in all, the illegals need to leave. Three, past Presidents took the high road (Operation Wetback) and it worked. We really need to take charge and make something happen for The People.
as i counted people's comments it's seems that 1/3 are somewhat pro immigrants and 2/3 are somewhat against immigration.why gafferty only read against immigration comments? can somebody answer that? gafferty? it's not your job to be impartial?
I am, as having parkinsons, very pleased with the Presidents decision to allow federal funding for stem cell research. Not to use embroys that would otherwise be discarded is not reasonable. The good that may come of this scientific research is a confort to many patients who have many diseases that might benefit from this research.
It just goes to show you how screwed up this country is and where all this liberal thinking and agendas have finally brought us to this place, and I hope you all like it, you made it that way.
And, don't forget all the Disability Benefits, Unemployment, Social Security, Home Loans, WIC, and all the other 100s of social programs that you wanted but just didn't want to be exclusionary. Well, the bill is in your taxes, so just smile next time you write the check.
Next time you can't take your family our to dinner, on a vacation, or buy them a new pair of shoes..........don't blame anyone.....except yourselves.
This country has long forgotten what the term "illegal" means and that's all our faults.
Give illegal immigrants jobs and we can build more tent city's for americans. If I committed a felon, i wouldn't see the light of day but if I am illegal I get rewarded with a job.
Its is a simple case of emotional projection. The GOP is terribly distracted because they have lost two national elections. Their comments concerning our New President's efforts to put science before a blind adherence to relgious dogma is more of the same from that side of the aisle. And, just the kind of thinking that has cost them two National elections.
The GOP simply doesn't get it !
Forcing American taxpayers and their children and grand children deep into debt to provide jobs for illegal aliens when we have over 11 million Americans looking for jobs shows clearly that our government has been hijacked by global corporations and foreign interests and elitists with no true loyalty to the American public!
Spotting an American construction worker here in So Cal is as rare as spotting a California Condor. You do see construction company owners and supervisors sitting in lawn chairs watching the work being done. Of course they don't want E-verify as they may be forced to hire Americans for a decent wage or do some work themselves. I blame those that hire the illegal immigrants and will sell their country out for a buck even more than the immigrants themselves and evenly with the government. And please stop the jobs Americans won't do stuff. How did these jobs get done before the invasion?
I wrote my senator on this very issue. It means a few things – one – it means we are not letting ourselves as tax payers the opportunity to take full responsibility for our debt. two – it means that once again we know where potentials problems in our system are, yet we would rather choose to "wait and see" rather than to be progressive and fix the problem. and three – it means that we have opened the door to discussing what is fast becoming an extrememly ugly issue which blurs the line between nationality and ethnicity.
Just read some of these posts. People are naive enough to think as if our only illegal immigrants are from Spanish speaking countries. Its just a shame that a simple question leads into a majority of comments that hold little water and primarily play on prejudices.
The E-verify program is a program that has proved effective from those willing to participate. I believe it actually has been proven to be 99.5% effective in identifying illegal immigrants in the hiring process. Obama should practice his on rhetoric on this – eliminate the programs that don't work and be sure to promote and keep the ones that do.
To Kevin in Dallas, TX... I have a question for you. Are you serious?!?!? They are taking jobs that Americans want but employers won't give it to Americans because they would have to pay them more. I remember a factory in Georgia said it was closing but lied it fired all Americans and hired ALL illegals. Now, you tell me again are you serious regarding your comment!? Get a clue.
You're worrying about the wrong thing Jack. Tell me, How many colleges enroll foreign students over American students? These are learning institutions devoted to teaching a higher education and they think taking our money to fund recruitment of students from other countries is OK. They say things like you don't have the grades to get in to a good college. Well your job is to teach them the skills they need...I suppose The World's Best Surgeons were born with the skills and knowledge from birth and needed no training. And I don't hear You crying about the illegals that took away American jobs in Professional Sports. Or how about all the work visas your handing out to people you don't know anything about?
Jack what about H1 Visa empolees that get our stimulus package. What about workers in India that our companies send our jobs and get stimulus money. What about trillions of dollars that we will send to China when we buy made in China products. I do not see China stimulating our economy. It is easy to blame little people because they can not defend themselfs.
I am a firm believer of objective news reporting and analysis. As has been made abundantly clear by many, the reason why you have an illegal immigration problem is simply that U.S. (repeat U.S.) employers will hire them to pay below market wages and to profit handsomely.
Let's stop being so hypercritical and simply insist that the government place very heavy penalties on these employers for taking on illegals.
Stop the lobbyists from paying off the senate to get their employers way.
You then should have no stimulus plan problems anymore.
President Obama said, "A President has to be able to juggle more than one tough issue at a time..."
The Republican's under Rush Limbaugh have long been unable to do this and as a result we now have several problems that must be dealt with at the same time.
I would also like you to know that I am from Alabama, a state that did not entirely go Republican. And I sure did not vote for Richard Shelby, whom I consider a traitor to the people of his state since he switched parties after being elected as a Democrat.
A question King Richard...How much of that pork that you put into the budget is coming to Northwest Alabama?
This is nothing new – immigration, both legal and illegal have been a huge problem that government has been ignoring for decades.
At least illegal immigrants claim to take the jobs "Americans won't do" (whether that's true or not – I think its more like "They do jobs Americans won't do FOR THE WAGES THAT COMPANIES WON'T PAY." And let's not get into benefits.)
How about all the tens of thousands of legal immigrants that are brought here every year to take jobs we NEED? Look up and read about the H-1 and L-1 programs, started under Bill Clinton. Read about TATA Consulting, brought here by Hillary Clinton. Tens of thousands of top IT and tech jobs are being given away every year to people who are being brought here from India and China specifically to take those jobs. While we have no jobs for our own people and a typical meeting in any IT department today is like a gathering of the United Nations.
So yeah, what's wrong with this picture?
Let's annex Mexico and make it our 51 state. Our illegals problem would almost evaporate and we would have a ready work pool of people who are willing to work.
Then we could start work on the drug problem.
Why am I not surprised that one of the big supporters that thinks this is Ok signs himself as Hector. Yes Hector these illegals spend money and in a way that could be good for the economy. That said if the illegals were not here I am quite confident that some American citizens could spend the same money and guess what Hector, that would be also good for the economy and I'll be damm, legal too!!
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