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November 18th, 2008
03:04 PM ET

If Stevens wins, should the Senate expel him?

 Click the play button to see what Jack and our viewers had to say.

Click the play button to see what Jack and our viewers had to say.

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Election Day 2008 may be a distant memory for most of us, but in three states - Georgia, Alaska and Minnesota - Senate races remain undecided. Georgia has a runoff scheduled for December 2nd. Alaska and Minnesota are both near resolution.

The Alaska race is of particular interest because it involves a convicted felon, Senator Ted Stevens. Stevens, you may recall, was found guilty in October of seven counts of concealing more than $250,000 in personal gifts. He was the first sitting senator to go on trial in more than 20 years...And just the fifth in history to be convicted of a crime.

Watch: Cafferty: Senate expel Stevens?

But the arrogant Mr. Stevens ran for re-election anyway, sending the message that a convicted felon's place is in the United States Senate. And in the days following November 4th, Stevens held a slight lead over his opponent, the Democratic mayor of Anchorage. He appears now to have lost that lead and is slightly behind. About 24,000 absentee ballots are expected to be counted today, but a few more may come in tomorrow.

Until that's all sorted out, Stevens remains a member of the Senate. Republican Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina is among those who want Stevens out. But some of his buddies in the Senate want to see whether he actually wins another term before voting on whether or not to expel him. They don't want to be on the record voting to expel a criminal unless they are forced to.

Isn't that nice?

Here’s my question to you: If Ted Stevens of Alaska is re-elected in spite of seven felony convictions, should the Senate expel him?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Debbie from San Marcos, California writes:
Of course they should expel him! Are our expectations for our public servants really that low? If they are, maybe we deserve what we get.

Jeff writes:
If Alaska wants to be represented by a corrupt convicted felon who are we to argue with that? It's not like the people of Alaska weren't informed that Stevens was convicted on multiple counts of corruption. Personally, I would be extremely embarrassed to be represented by someone like Stevens but then I'm not an Alaskan. Maybe they have different standards than I do.

Dave writes:
Let me get this straight, if you’re convicted of a felony you can't vote, but you could get elected to the Senate? Something is very wrong with our system.

NB writes:
In our company, if you are convicted of a felony, you are terminated. No severance, no benefits, no pension. Now, what was your question about convicted felon Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska?

Rob from New York City writes:
He's a felon. How could he even run for office? And what kind of an idiot would even vote for a felon? Is there something in the drinking water in Alaska? That explains why they think Palin is so wonderful. It’s the water supply.

John from Ottawa, Kansas writes:
Expulsion shouldn't be his only punishment. Why not require him to be a lead dog for an Iditarod team?

Shirley from Ohio writes:
They should expel him, but he will not win. God is not going to leave any of the doors open for Palin to plow through.


Filed under: Ted Stevens
soundoff (386 Responses)
  1. Daniel Ambrose

    Jack,
    Plain and simple. Yes! Such a disgrace and dishonesty of the thought of him remaining in the Senate is appauling! He shoudl do the honorable thing and resign while he has some dignity left.

    Daniel,
    Atlanta, GA

    November 18, 2008 at 1:34 pm |
  2. Mickie

    Yes, but then he is not the only republican criminal – just one who got caught. It's a shame it wasn't Bush.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  3. Beth, Boston, MA

    No, if they expel him Sarah will jump into the seat. There are too many cameras in DC.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  4. Jerry Illinois

    The Senate is a good old boys network and they will
    welcome him back like the Democrates welcomed back
    Joe Lieberman. AHHH government at its best!

    November 18, 2008 at 1:36 pm |
  5. Joe in DE

    Yes – he should rsign now and avoid further embarassment.

    Fortunately, it looks as though he will lose.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  6. ST

    YES!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
  7. Jane (Minnesota)

    Yes they should expel him. Congress also might consider passing legislation that makes conviction of a felony an automatic expulsion. If you can't vote – you certainly should not be able to hold an elected office!

    November 18, 2008 at 1:40 pm |
  8. meg ulmes

    Jack–
    You betcha they should expel him. He's a convicted criminal.

    Troy, Ohio

    November 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  9. Ron in Oregon

    Is there really a chance he's going to win? The latest figures show Begich ahead by over 1,000 votes. Expel him? No, they should impose a mandatory retirement age for all Senators. There are very few jobs where people can continue to work until they are 80 or older. The Congress needs a 30 year and out policy or mandatory retirement at 70.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  10. tom tyskiewicz

    "uncle ted" stevens needs to go away, stay away, and never come back. he personifies the g.o.p. whose arrogance & incompetence is only exceeded by the 2000-08 administration of bush-cheney etal.

    tom, forest hills, pa

    November 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm |
  11. Mickie

    Absolutely, but it's a shame it wasn't Bush and Cheney that were prosecuted. Most of the criminals aren't ever prosecuted for their crimes and now we have to pay their retirement as well with what little money we have now that they bankrupted us.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
  12. Barb New Port Richey Fl

    Absolutely Jack. 1 felony conviction should be enough, let alone 7. He should also loose all his perks and retirement benefits, just as any normal citizen would have to do!

    November 18, 2008 at 1:42 pm |
  13. vern-t anaheim,ca

    yes if he wins the election for u.s. senator in alaska he should be expelled from the senate because he has been convicted of a felony and if you or i did what he did we would be going to prision which will not happen to him.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:43 pm |
  14. Winton from Alaska

    Yes, they should expel Stevens if somehow he snatches victory from the jaws of defeat. Otherwise, the Senate would have to throw their ethics rules out the window.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:44 pm |
  15. Brett in Oriskany,Va

    Felons loose the right to vote, they should also not be able to hold public office. This is a travesty that needs to be corrected.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  16. Jason, Koloa, HI

    The Senate should force him to go hunting with Dick Cheney.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  17. Mike Ca

    Hi Jack
    Expel him without any pension or other perks.
    Be intresting to see if they have the backbone.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  18. Janis, Lafayette, IN

    That's a given. Would you want to work with someone that could ruin your reputation by his illegal acts? They should take away his pension as well as his seat in the Senate.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  19. Paul Anthony Maglaya

    The Senate should expel Stevens so he can't get more retirement fees if he choose to retire and he is a bad guy who in October committed a felony against Alaska.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:45 pm |
  20. Robert W. Brooks

    Jack,

    Given the corrupt nature of the Senate and House of Representatives it would be best if Congress designates itself a federal prison, then Stevens would be right at home.

    Robert
    Forest, VA

    November 18, 2008 at 1:48 pm |
  21. Cori from Colorado

    That's a no brainer.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:48 pm |
  22. Sherrol in Canada

    YOu betcha!!

    November 18, 2008 at 1:49 pm |
  23. Bill from MI

    No. Expelling him could open the door for Sarah Palin, God help us. In spite of Ted Stevens shortcomings, at least he knows what is going on and that is very important right now due to the troubles our nation is in. I don't think anyone that has been convicted of felonies while in office should be able to stay in office but in this case the smart thing to do is to just bite the bullet and let him stay.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:49 pm |
  24. DAN FROM BLOOMINGTON INDIANA

    First of all I would be very disappointed if he were to be elected. I can't believe even one person,with the possible exception of Palin, voted for a convicted felon to make our laws for crying out loud. Do they even know what a Senator's job is? I know Palin probably doesn't but give me a break. the rest of us should.
    If they don't expel him then I think they should all lose their jobs at re-election time. don't you?

    November 18, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  25. Esther M. Akron Ohio

    throw the bum out

    November 18, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  26. Mike - Hot Springs, Arkansas

    The man is a convicted felon. Since convicted felons cannot vote in most states, it would only be appropriate for him not to be able to vote in the Senate.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  27. David, Tampa, Fl

    If the Republican controled House and Senate brought impeachment of Bill Clinton to trial for purgury, my guess is they should kick this guy out as being a convicted felon. How did Senator Stevens vote on Clinton's impeachment anyway? Perhaps in a few more days the final vote tally from Alaska will reveal the winner of the Senate race and if it isn't Stevens there will not be a need to do anything but wait for January. If Steven's wins then give the bumb the boot.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:50 pm |
  28. Tom, Avon, Maine, The Heart of Democracy

    We have to start showing some respect for America. That means prosecutions of everyone who has violated our Constitution and laws in the past 8 years. America deserved so much better.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm |
  29. D. R. Texas

    Yes I DO !!!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm |
  30. Sherrol in Canada

    Absolutely Jack. I'm totally appalled at the fact that the Alaskan people voted so overwhelmingly for him. Seems as if they have the same mentality as their Govenor Sarah Palin. God help them all!!

    November 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm |
  31. MJS-Minnesota

    Is the Pope Catholic?

    November 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm |
  32. Bella

    No, if the people elect him, let him stay. What's one more crooked politician in the Senate anyhow?

    At least that way, we will not have to deal with a Palin run for Senate, bless her heart.

    Bella
    Michigan

    November 18, 2008 at 1:52 pm |
  33. Barbara Middletown, NY

    They should but they probably won't. The same bunch of wimps allowed Lieberman to keep his chairmanship. They all deserve each other, but the American people deserve better.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:52 pm |
  34. WILL COLLINS florida

    He is a Felon Americans have no conferdenence now this Subpar
    Congress can-not condone Felons

    November 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |
  35. F. Taylor

    Leave him alone what Senator Stevens did was miniscule when you compare it with what all the criminals in the administration have done over the past 8 years. Crime pays and politics proves it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |
  36. Allan Hanson Cameron Park Ca.

    YES,YES,YES. Alaskans would be happy to see him stay, because of all the "pork" he has obtained because of his seniority. But he is too corupt. I hope he doesn't get elected because Palin might replace him. That would really be insane.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |
  37. ajks

    Yes, expell him and take away his rights of any retirement benefits paid by the U.S. taxpayers.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:53 pm |
  38. Sharon, King George VA

    Jack, If all of the criminals were expelled from congress, who would be left to run the country?

    November 18, 2008 at 1:54 pm |
  39. lee in tn

    They should not have to kick him out. He should not step down but bow out.
    These guys make it seem as if there are two different sets of laws and rules. One for the citizens and one for the rulers.
    They seem to just get a slap on the wrist and we get the jail cell.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:54 pm |
  40. Rich Mckinney, Texas

    They should hit the 'eject' button as soon as he wins.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:55 pm |
  41. David from Social Circle GA.

    Only in america can you run for office after a conviction and possibly win, even if you are a mean individual who constantly makes political threats to get your way in the senate. wah wah Not only should the senate expell him America should expell him. He is a prime example of old thinking that is all wronge for this or any other country.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:56 pm |
  42. Dave, Brooklyn, NY

    Duh! Sure, why not let a convicted felon serve in the legislative body. Perhaps this seven time looser can make a law that says he can not be convicted of any crimes and make it retro active. Talk about inmates running the prison or mental institution or congress??? Give me a break.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:56 pm |
  43. Conor in Chicago

    I think the real question you should be asking is: "What does it say that a convicted criminal might actually be elected to the Senate in Alaska?" I mean seriously? Think about one of your senators who you might like or have mixed feeling about and then apply all that happened in the Stevens trial and then the final verdict. Are you going to vote for that person? I guess maybe in Alaska you will.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:56 pm |
  44. JD, Greenville NC

    I'm not sure. If the Senate expels Stevens it would set a dangerous precedent of "doing the right thing". It might even become a habit for them.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:57 pm |
  45. Ram, Stamford CT

    Sure – he should be expelled... I'm sure Gov. Palin can find a replacement and get back to ya!

    November 18, 2008 at 1:57 pm |
  46. SG

    They shound, and will, expel him if he gets elected. The sad thing is they might have to actually do it because it seems politicians don't retire in shame anymore – they just brazenly repeat a denial of the facts until people get bored and move onto the next story.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:58 pm |
  47. Ed from Durango, Colorado

    Yes, he should be expelled and then the senate needs to expel all the other greed head criminals in government starting with bush and cheney and then work on down the ladder to the house and senate.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:58 pm |
  48. Ron K

    Hi Jack:

    With out question!!

    Ron San Diego

    November 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm |
  49. John, Long Beach CA

    If a convicted felon can't even vote, they should not be allowed to serve in the Senate. Expel him.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm |
  50. Willow, Iowa

    Yes, IF he wins, he should be expelled. It looks like he will lose. And since they are finished with his trials, they should perhaps look into the house of the Governor of Alaska, whose husband built his house with the help of a few "buddies". and they got it all really cheap.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm |
  51. Mari Fernandez, Salt Lake City, Utah

    YES, expel him. The Republicans are such hypocrites! They call President-elect Obama all sorts of evil names but when they have a criminal among them, they are quiet!

    Actually, the fact that Stevens was reelected says more about Alaska! How can anyone in their right mind reelect a man who is a felon?! Scary.

    November 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm |
  52. Sarahkatheryn

    I didn't think you could serve in the Senate if you were in Jail... am I wrong?

    November 18, 2008 at 2:00 pm |
  53. Carol Heinick

    Jack,

    Here's an idea: Stevens will donate all the money he received for his porch and have it used for a new patio deck for the White House.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:00 pm |
  54. Jackie in Dallas

    They should expel him NOW as a current Senator. If he gets re-elected, Alaska should hold a special election to replace him. He has been found guilty of seven felony counts, and the appeal process could drag on for years, and he could still be found guilty. During that time, he will have neither the time to perform his duties nor the influence to be useful, nor should he be allowed the access to critical government data.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:00 pm |
  55. Louise, Massachusetts

    Such a great opportunity to clown around – however, keeping a felon convicted of abusing the power of his elected office would set a terrible precedent.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:00 pm |
  56. April in Hoboken, NJ

    Who cares? It looks like he's going to lose anyways.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:01 pm |
  57. Caroline, Hamer SC

    He should resign and get no retirement money from us the taxpayers, do you know anyone that can keep getting retirement after ripping the company they work for off? AIG and all the banks that got some of our tax money I do not understand it, most people don’t.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:01 pm |
  58. Susan, Sequim WA

    Is there a chance they won't? Ted needs to go!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:02 pm |
  59. Gary - Woodhaven, Michigan

    If Stevens wins they should expel the State of Alaska.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:03 pm |
  60. Ed Reed

    Of course, but they also need to change the law. Sen. Stevens' crime was not his acceptance of gifts, but his failure to report them. In other words, under the current law, bribery is legal if you report it. No wonder people don't trust Congess.

    Ed Reed
    Port Aransas, TX

    November 18, 2008 at 2:04 pm |
  61. Tom Ft Lauderdale

    Jack

    I think Ted Stevens will be a good fit with his peers in congress!!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  62. Carol Heinick

    From Norwood, NY

    Jack,

    Here's an idea: Stevens will donate all the money he received for his porch to have a beautiful new patio deck built at the White House.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  63. James in Trubble Again

    Any elected official that takes a bribe or gifts should be expelled from the Country! They should lose their Citizenship. Why isn't the bum in jail?

    November 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  64. dan in Tucson

    If Stevens wins we should expel Alaska. Anyone who votes for a felon deserves anything bad that happens to them.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  65. Chad N., Fresno California

    Of course they should expell him from congress! You better believe that if it was me that had been convicted of seven felonies I would already be in prison and nobody would even be asking the question of what would my employer do let alone if I should be allowed to make public policy. Nobody is above the law, at least thats what I have been told. If I would already be in prison, then anyone else convicted of seven felonies should already be there as well.....even if that person is a congressman.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  66. Bruce St Paul MN

    If this was Japan, he would have already fallen on his sword. He should definitely be expelled. Make an example. It's time for public servants to stop serving themselves.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm |
  67. Mike S.,New Orleans

    No, I think senate Republicans should stick with tradition. After all, Senator David Vitter got a standing ovation from them when he returned to the senate after his prostitution scandal. They should honor Stevens with their same ethical standards.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:06 pm |
  68. Lester from Huntsville

    Yes...he should be expelled if he gets elected but at the same time the Senate better be sure. They may even want to start an investigation of his activities themselves. If Sen. Stevens should win his appeal...it makes congress look more reactive than proactive. They should already be investigating the charges against this fellow member. If I were in public office and the charges against me were thrown out on appeal then I would demand answers as to why the people of my state who took the time to go to the polls were not respected since I was vindicated by the courts.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:07 pm |
  69. Rufus in Twentynine Palms, CA

    I can't make my mind up Jack...shall we install a trap door or an ejection seat?

    November 18, 2008 at 2:07 pm |
  70. Roger from Espanola, New Mexico

    Absolutely! This is an adult and a convicted felon not a naughty child getting another chance!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:07 pm |
  71. Brian from Fort Mill, SC

    Imagine getting a job at McDonalds, and then be arrested, tried and convicted of a felony.

    Do you think they would expel you?

    November 18, 2008 at 2:09 pm |
  72. Ralph, Corpus Christi

    There should'nt even be an "if" with regard to re-electing a conficted felon!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:09 pm |
  73. Erik

    In theory, he should resign. Unfortunately, we don't live in a theoretical society. It won't matter anyway. If he wins the election, Bush will pardon him on Jan 19th.

    Erik
    McDonough, GA

    November 18, 2008 at 2:10 pm |
  74. Paul S. Columbia, SC

    See ya Ted. Do not pass go. Do not collect any pay, allowances or retirement. OK, Jack. That's one down and 534 more to go.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:10 pm |
  75. Jerry from Monroe Co., WV

    I think the senate should pass a provisional resolution stating that they will immediately expell him should he win. Each senator's vote should be recorded so voters can make an informed choice the next chance they get to vote for or against their senator.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:11 pm |
  76. Terry from North Carolina

    Jack
    We are way too easy with these people. A convicted felon, are you kidding ? This guy should be kicked out of congress, he should lose his pension and medical benefits, I dont care how much seniority he has. He committed a crime while serving the American people.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:13 pm |
  77. Tom in Eau Claire, WI

    Absolutely, there should be no place in our government for someone who disgraces their office as he has. On top of that, the senate is supposed to be the higher more prestigious house of the legislature. He is an embarrassment to this Alaska and the US.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:13 pm |
  78. Annie, Atlanta

    Absolutely. How is a convicted felon even allowed to run in the first place? That sounds more third world to me, honestly.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:13 pm |
  79. Mark B. Detroit, MI.

    How can elected official be convicted of felonies and still hold office. They should give the both. If it was me or you we be strip of all rights. It's ashame these things go on in the Republican Party. It's just ashame.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:14 pm |
  80. Karl from SF, CA

    Expel him and take away any pension he may have. If there is a 401K, give him his money back without matching funds or interest. They pay into social security, so let him live on that. It will still be more then I get and a lot more then he deserves.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  81. Katiec Pekin, IL

    I will be very disappointed with the citizens of Alaska if they vote
    this man back in. But, he has brought them alot of pork.
    That anyone can remain in a high level politicial position after
    being convicted of felons is beyond me. Could you or I even
    remain out of prison? Of course not. And, to allow these
    criminals to then receive their overblown pensions, our
    taxpayer dollars, is our political system thumbing their
    noses at us.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:15 pm |
  82. Venia PA

    Yes, so then palin can get in and prep herself for her run in 2012 and then Barack will win his second term in a landslide.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:16 pm |
  83. mac from traverse city Michigan

    Of course they should Jack, as a convicted felon they would have to determine if he even has voting privilages. He should instead resign and join his "peers" like Tom Delay and Trent Lott and Carl Rove as commentators to spew republican dogma and propaganda.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:16 pm |
  84. Kathryn, Santa Barbara, CA

    Yes!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:17 pm |
  85. Barbara in Las Vegas, NV

    They shoudl not, ESPECIALLY if it means that Sarah Palin could possibly replace him.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:19 pm |
  86. Karen McCullough

    If Stevens wins in Alaska, there is something mentally wrong with the voters in that state. A convicted felon should not be able to serve in Congress at all and there should be no need for a Senate vote.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:20 pm |
  87. Phil-Wenatchee, WA

    Let's just hope that Begich wins the election so we won't have to worry anymore about an 84-yr old felon who has totally lost it or a moose killer who thinks God is going to "open the door" for her.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  88. Karen - Nashville

    Yes. And when the governor, who will consider a seat in the senate a gift from god, indulges in the same kind of shenanigans as senator, they should impeach her too.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  89. Matt from Albuquerque

    Absolutely! There is no question that someone convicted of multiple felonies should not be in a position to continue to commit the same crime again. Obviously a person with sense of integrity should serve the people of his state.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  90. Howard M. Bolingbrook IL

    Jack, Yes if Stevens wins the election he should be expelled from the Senate. If Stevens is expelled it would probably mean that we would again have to suffer with Sarah Palin.

    With Palin in mind, I am praying for the Mayor of Anchorage to prevail over Stevens.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:21 pm |
  91. Annie - Virginia

    Yes He should be Expelled! That is the problem with the government now, they just keep on over looking the ethical and moral values of our leader. They should be held accountable, punished for their sins. The best punishment is NO jail time, No pension or health care benefits.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:22 pm |
  92. Jasmine in Germany

    Yes, of course he should be expelled. It is audacious of him not to step down and disappear gracefully. In the democracy I live in, you can't be a PTA mom if you've been convicted of a misdemeanor. It's outrageous that a person convicted of seven felonies could be a highly paid public servant in the largest democratic country in the world.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:24 pm |
  93. Constance - Seattle

    Yes and no retirement or perks given to most senators. He is a citizen like the rest of us and we would not get those benefits. He is a disgrace.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:24 pm |
  94. Joe in VA

    Yes – enough said.

    Chatham, VA

    November 18, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  95. Michael "C" Lorton, Virginia

    Jack: Most definitively–but the Bush Administration is going to give him a triple departing gift; one for his birthday, which is today; one for Christmas; and his departing gift--A PARDON.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:25 pm |
  96. L.M.,Arizona

    Stevens has help make Alaska one of the most selfish states in America. They have oil money but no real after school programs for kids,roads are some of the worse in the world,and still they will support a crook because of the money he brings to Alaska. He should have been kicked out of the senate years ago.

    L.M.,Arizona

    November 18, 2008 at 2:26 pm |
  97. docb

    Yes, Jack.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:27 pm |
  98. Stacy from Loudoun County VA

    Jack, Senator Stevens should remain in the hallowed halls of Congress. They should affix a nice ‘dunce’ hat on his head and make him wear an orange t-shirt that says ‘felon’ on the back and ‘bad example’ on the front. Then, everyone from the security guard to the tourist groups to the members of Congress can be reminded how terrible and how low our legislative branch has become. Then and only then will be motivated to do something about the malfeasance infesting Washington D.C.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:28 pm |
  99. I. B., Rocky Mount, North Carolina

    No. A decision to expel him from the Senate should not be made until after his court appeal. He should be censured and barred from the Senate until after his appeal. If he loses his appeal, case closed.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  100. Bob D, Morristown, NJ

    Si, oui, jawol, oo, yes, ja, tak, ya in any language you may care to consider. He not only committed felonious crimes, these crimes were precisely against the office he holds, and the oaths he swore to uphold.

    It's not like he lied about some non-criminal behavior that's none of our business, or had nothing to do with his oath of office.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:30 pm |
  101. Yvonne, Michigan

    Absolutely, this man should have been expelled from the Senate and stripped of all benefits afforded to him once he was convicted. Why he was allowed to remain on the ballot in the first place is beyond rational thinking. Although, after being introduced to Sara Palin rational thinking seems to be at a premium in Alaska so go figure...

    Yvonne, Michigan

    November 18, 2008 at 2:31 pm |
  102. DMAC/Post Falls, ID

    Not if he has filed an appeal.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:31 pm |
  103. Lynn, Boise ID

    They should have expelled him the day he was found guilty and he should have been required to drop out of the race. It's way uncool that anyone is even considering letting him stay. If it were a lower-level public servant, they would be placed on un-paid administrative leave during the trial and fired immediately upon conviction. Why should it be any different for him? Lame.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  104. Tom Tx

    Yes.However, I really hate to see Palin get his job.Maybe she will be happy with her big(fiction,I am sure) book deal and get out of politics-HA HA HA.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  105. Louis, Los Angeles

    Jack,
    The answer is yes. He broke the law and was tried and convicted. There is no precident for a convicted felon to remain in office. It's not just a matter of public trust, it is the honor and integrity of the United States Senate.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  106. David from Portland Oregon

    Jack, If Stevens is re-elected by the people of Alaska what does that say of their respect for the laws and the court system? Guess if they support Plain then anything goes in their state.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:35 pm |
  107. Tom - Las Vegas, Nevada

    I can't believe there is even a question surrounding this. Of course you expel him, he abused his authority in an attempt to gain personally.

    I'm sorry I forgot we were talking about a government official from Alaska, apparently that's standard practice there.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  108. Stacy from Fairfax, VA

    While the law allows a convicted felon to serve in the Senate, it would not be in their best interests to allow Stevens to stay.
    It's time for Uncle Ted to retire and go back to Alaska and do some fishing or hunting. He should also have time to do some home remodeling.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  109. Greg in Cabot AR

    NO, I think Stevens should stay in the Senate If he gets re-elected, that way, the fools in Alaska that voted for him will get what they deserve… and then…. if the republicans still don’t want to kick the bum out, he could continue to occupy the seat and represent his state, get all the tax-payer funded perks while he goes through the appeal process. Convicted felons can’t vote so Stevens wouldn’t be allowed to vote on any legislation, therefore, the democrats could count on one less opposition vote to every issue that comes up.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:36 pm |
  110. Robert Wendel

    Yes, absolutely! The country just resoundingly voted for change. If Stevens remains a US Senator by proxy from jail, then the Congress might as well hang a banner across the Capitol facade telling America: "Nothing's changed...Suckers!"

    November 18, 2008 at 2:37 pm |
  111. Maggie Muggins From Selwyn

    Since all reports from Alaska seem to indicate Palin got elected on a platform of reforming corrupt politicians and then continued on in the same tradition with overwhelming support it is safe to assume this practice is simply the status quo in this state.

    Alaska is a Republican stronghold and corruption seems to be an integral part of the GOP ideology then let Stevens stay as Senator since that is how the people prefer to run their business.

    That is simply Democracy at it's craziest.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:37 pm |
  112. Len of Colfax

    Yes! Even if an appeal overturns the 7 counts, the fact that one jury found him guilty will negatively impact his effectiveness in the US Senate. We don't need this with today's problems.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  113. ozzi in AZ

    Well yes...duh!!
    He's a convicted felon and can't even VOTE! How can he be a senator?!!!
    And he should lose his retirement benefits too...after all he abused his position in government for personal gain. He should be cut off and booted out just like anyone who cheated a company and got caught and convicted for it.
    But of course we know that won't happen because he's one of the Good Old Crooks...er....Boys.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  114. Bruce, Georgia

    No, the people of Alaska elected him knowing the situation full well.

    However, I would suggest no pork for Alaska anymore!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  115. Diane Dagenais Turbide

    Dear Dear Jack,

    seven felony convictions! What do you think! Yes!

    Next question : Does he deserve a severance package for leaving under such circumstances!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:38 pm |
  116. Mark in OKC

    I don't know about Alaskans, but as an Oklahoman, I would not want a convicted felon representing me in Congress. Of course, it is just a "felony", it's not like he drove a car off a little bridge and drowned someone without reporting it for nine hours.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
  117. Jake, Oregon

    Unquestionably ! And probably about 40 other of the "old guard" senators who think they can do no wrong and if they do, the "good old boy" network will protect them. It sure does make the case for open access to the administration via the internet that Mr. Obama plans to implement. With enough public pressure, it could minimize or may even eliminate lobbyists and special interest groups.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  118. Francheska , Georgia

    If he does win and if the Senate does not expel him...then it just proves that ANYTHING really is possible in America. 😉

    November 18, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  119. Michael in Western PA

    Whatever happens in the Stevens case. The Congress should pass laws so the American people doesn't keep giving these felonies a pension from the American taxpayer. e.g. Duke Cunningham. This must stop!!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  120. Michael from Greenfield, Wi.

    Of course. We here in the ugly world still marvel at the fact that a convicted felon cannot vote, but can run for office. As with everythng else, I guess it is just to much of an obvious discrepancy to fix.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  121. karen-phoenix

    Make him LIVE in Alaska a full 12 months!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  122. Terry in Hanover County

    They should not expel him. Instead make Stevens the poster child for why someone should never vote for a Republican, especially one from Alaska.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  123. Linda in Florida

    Yes! He personifies what the GOP has become - arrogant and incompetent. He should be taken out of the job and not be allowed to collect his big fat senate pension! Now if we could just do the same to Bush and Cheney.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:42 pm |
  124. B.Allen

    Convicted felons running for political office?

    Is this one of the perks for living in Alaska?
    It was okay with Sarah until someone (McCain?) had a little talk with her.

    I am 69 years old and thought I had seen just about everything. Guess not.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:44 pm |
  125. Hummer Girl

    Stevens should never have been allowed to run in the first place with these charges hanging over him. If SARAH PALIN was any kind of a real Leader, she would make him step down now – out of the spotlight and award the seat to the Democratic nominee. Of course, we know that Sarah Palin is all about her and believes in winning BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!!! Apparently, that's the republican mantra. Stevens is a disgrace to the country and so is Alaska!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:45 pm |
  126. Bennie

    Hi Jack:

    No, let him stay. Make him wear a orange jumpsuit, serve everybody in the Senate coffee and donuts during morning session. Get lunch and dinner during late session, and clean up when everybody leaves. If that doesn't make him want to resign then he must really love his job.

    Bennie
    Avon, IN

    November 18, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  127. jeh15

    Absolutely. These aren't minor infractions that Stevens got convicted on. Other members of Congress were most assuredly expelled for doing a lot less. Then they can expel Stevens as he is now a convicted felon.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  128. peggy

    Lets wait to see who wins the sen.seat ,then if he loses that will take care of both problems .No Palin,no Stevens.
    peg,tenn

    November 18, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  129. John

    Jack: Yes, Congress should expel him from the Senate. I hope the Democrat candidate wins the election in Alaska. This would help the Obama Administration get a number of important measures through the Senate. It would stop the necessity of having a vote which would embarass the Stevens Family.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:48 pm |
  130. Dave in Saint Louis

    Sure as long as they kick out Teddy for killing that girl on the bridge.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:48 pm |
  131. Lesley, Lighthouse Point

    Absolutely. This man has been convicted of breaking the law, yet we would allow him to hold the office of someone who makes laws? He is guilty of taking kick backs for favors that were available to him because of his power as an elected official. He is corrupt. If the republicans really think that they are the party of 'reform' they better take him out, or face the consequences of looking shallow and pathetic.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  132. Tom, Tucson, AZ

    Yes Jack, but I'm sure many Senators will have to avoid a mirror on the day of the vote.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  133. Kathleen, Calgary

    Incredible! Yes absolutely. There are some folks (read 7 count convicted criminal) who should not be a part of that club. Unbelievable how he apparently has no regard for anyone but himself!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:52 pm |
  134. Paulette,Dallas,PA

    He should be expelled immediately. He violated ehtics rules and is a convicted felon. Get him OUT!!

    November 18, 2008 at 2:53 pm |
  135. Dave OH

    Yes Jack. He is poison for both parties – Dems need him out to gain more control over a freshman senator but it is the Republicans who stand to gain more by booting him. In a party that is supposed to be about lowering government spending, ignoring special interests and promoting moral values Senator Stevens is the ultimate hypocrite. He’s a thief who took from special interests and asked for billions of dollars worth of earmarks for the welfare state of Alaska. He should retire to Alaska and keep watch for the Russian invasion like Gov Palin is doing.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:53 pm |
  136. Valentina in CT

    Let me get this straight. Convicted felons don't have the right to vote, but they can run for public office? Can you say "backwards?"

    November 18, 2008 at 2:57 pm |
  137. Rob , NYC

    He's a felon , how could he even run for office. And what kind of an idiot would even vote for a felon ? Is there something in the drinking water in Alaska ? That explains why they think Palin is so wonderful–its the water supply

    November 18, 2008 at 2:57 pm |
  138. Ruth (Alabama)

    Let us just hope that the voters in Alaska will not elect a criminal. And let's really hope and pray that Stevens good friend and faithful understudy ... Sarah Palin .... does not get her egotistical, self serving, evil eyes on this senate seat.

    November 18, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  139. Maureen from Montreal

    Absolutely he should be expelled. Furthermore, Sarah Palin should not step in and move from Governor to Senate. She has governed in times of prosperity with high energy prices, and now that prices and potential income are decreasing, she should stay as governor and prove how good she really is.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:00 pm |
  140. Rose in Az

    Absolutely he should be expelled. There should never be a convicted felon in any part of our government.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:04 pm |
  141. barbara in Tacoma

    he's the poster person why there should be time limits in congress. I'm tired of these guys in office for more than two terms.Enough, they are the same old bunch.Look at lieberman, he was a democrat, lost that now he's an independant, but really a republican, can't any of them find work outside of congress, they all need to go after two terms.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  142. Maureen

    I'm a viewer from Montreal. Certainly Mr Steven's has no place in any government of any form. Furthermore, Sarah Palin should stay right where she is as governor. She has governed in times of high energy prices and surplus.Now that prices are dropping let's see how well she does in tighter times. If she has to tighten the belt, let's see how popular she will really be!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  143. Larry from Georgetown, Texas

    I find it absolutely appalling that a person who is a convicted felon can be elected as a U.S. Senator let alone keep his job. Tolerance of these kind of things is one more indication that our society is spiraling downward.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  144. John, Fort Collins, CO

    If Ted Stevens is re-elected, his fellows in the Senate should place him in the Congressional Hall of Fame in recognition of how he took the greed and gall of an elected official to a whole new level without blinking an eye. Then they should expel him.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
  145. Ray in Nashville

    Yes, but they have to be careful, if they start weeding out the crooks, there won't be anyone left.

    Hey, wait a minute... we may be on to something here!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:06 pm |
  146. Diane Glasser

    Yes. He is a convicted crook that has no business in Congress.Send him packing and off to jail.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:07 pm |
  147. Keith - Halifax, Canada

    Of course, but then again, if the state was dumb enough to elect him they should be made to endure him. What is up with Alaska anyway? Shooting wolves from helicopters, electing felons, embracing corruption and I won’t even get into approval ratings.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:07 pm |
  148. Sandra fromTexas

    Gee, I don't know. After the stunt the Democrats pulled off with Lieberman, I don't think it really matters to the Senators what they do. After all, he is one of them as opposed to one of us. It really doesn't matter what we the people want or Lieberman would have been long gone a long time ago. So, I don't care what or if they do anything about Stevens.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:09 pm |
  149. Lene' , IL

    It is amazing that this question even has to be asked. When Mr. Stevens was found guilty he should of automatically lost his seat. He probably didn't do anything different than most of our politicians are doing though and I honestly believe that.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:10 pm |
  150. Mike

    Yes ...
    but most likely he won't be re-elected. Hopefully the majority of Alaskans don't have the brains of Sarah Palin to re-elect Stevens. If Stevens wins then the Alaskans are dumb.

    Mike
    Washington

    November 18, 2008 at 3:10 pm |
  151. John in Arizona

    It depends on what you mean by should." In this case "should expell Stevens"" should mean must expel him – like yesterday.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:11 pm |
  152. Chris, Centennial, Colorado

    He should not win. If he does, shame on Alaska! Then, the senate should expel him, but they probably wouldn't.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:11 pm |
  153. Curt W

    No I don't think he should be expelled. We are talking about an ethics violation that possibly isn't even true. He did have reciepts for the work done on his home that were paid. Even if he did recieve gifts let's remember we had a president doing an aid in the oval office, we didn't remove him.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  154. Yogi, Wash, State

    Well Jack, that depends. The Governor has the power to fire him and
    appoint herself as senator. And guess who HERSELF is , Jack?

    Smart man, Jack. You guessed right. That would be Sara Palin.

    YIKES!!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  155. JW Georgia

    Absolutely. The bigger question for me lies in the fact that Alaska might vote the fool back into office in the first place. Must be a really unaware bunch of voters up there in the snow.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  156. DebM, Allentown, PA

    I'd love to see him expelled, but that means there's a chance that the disastrous Palin might appoint herself to his seat. Of course, there could be a special election to fill his seat, pitting Palin against whomever (Begich?). Unfortunately, the Alaskans have already demonstrated their warped political judgment and Palin would probably win. I don't want that to happen; I've seen enough of Sarah Palin in the last two months to last me THREE lifetimes.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:13 pm |
  157. gail Centre, Al.

    Jack,
    what does this say when a man can be elected for an office, that has been convicted of 7 felony's Shameful The state should make him resign. They should have some kind of laws that prevent them from holding office, once they are convicted. Who wants a bunch of crooks, we already have enough of them.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm |
  158. Aaron B.; Champaign, IL

    Didn't we already cover this? He's a convicted felon... send him home (and burn his bridge).

    November 18, 2008 at 3:14 pm |
  159. David,San Bernardino,CA.

    Disgraced Senator Stevens should have been expelled the day after the convictions. That he is still there is an insult to all republicans and Americans. Any republican who votes to retain Steven's seat should be defeated in the next election,if not impeached.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:16 pm |
  160. Judy, Exeter, Calif,

    He must be expelled, and much more reform in congress is needed to eliminate this type of problem in the future. Since when is it alright to have a convicted felon holding public office? Geeeez

    November 18, 2008 at 3:16 pm |
  161. Nancy, Tennessee

    The U.S. Senators actions affect all of the states including the lower forty-eight even if the voters of Alaska want Stevens to represent them. Explusion of a convicted felon is the only appropriate action in this case. No U. S. Senator should have any problem or excuse for not voting to expel him. I know people in glass houses should not throw stones, but I think the American people are ready for more transparency in government and they'll be watching this one. If a convicted felon can't vote for who goes to the Senate, then why should a convicted felon be allowed to vote on the important issues facing this nation. Get the bum outta there!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:17 pm |
  162. Randy North Carolina

    Let's see – he lied, cheated, and stole, got caught and is a convicted felon. Certainly, if he had any conscience or will to do the right thing he would resign – but if he had those qualities he wouldn't be in this position in the first place. Of course he could become a campaign manager for the GOP or lobbyist for Governor Palin which he does seem well qualified for.

    RD

    November 18, 2008 at 3:18 pm |
  163. Dan, Chantilly VA

    I wonder what Russia would be willing to pay to get Alaska back. Maybe we can trade it in exchange for the right to build some missile "defense" systems in Europe.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:19 pm |
  164. Sandi, Chicago

    No – I don't want to see Palin anymore! Nor do I want to hear her squeaky voice...

    November 18, 2008 at 3:19 pm |
  165. Deb in Lancaster, PA

    If Alaska is stupid enough to re-elect a convicted felon, they deserve the Senator they get...and that should be one less. Let the Frozen North limp along with a single Senator until they prove they have learned a valuable lesson. No felon should be permitted to hold federal office...period!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:22 pm |
  166. Ted O. (Canada)

    Of course they should expel him! Where he should be is in jail. What other country on this planet allows felons to run for office. This also reveals the intelligence of half the voters of a state like Alaska. Well on second thought they also voted for Sarah Palin. I guess you put anything on an Alaskan!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:23 pm |
  167. ERoss, Kansas

    Now look Jack, I admire you a lot! But this is a dumb question! Yes he should be, CASE CLOSED.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:23 pm |
  168. Gemma in Staten Island

    Yes they should, what amazes me even more is the fact that these people in Alaska would actually vote for this convicted person. Truly amazing, but we got a peak into life in Alaska -Sarah Palin- so nothing these people do surprises me anymore. As the saying goes, only in Alaska baby, only in Alaska.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:24 pm |
  169. Bob H Rockford, Mi.

    They should expel him now! This wait and see what shakes out of the election attitude, in my opinion is irrelevant. If the Senate, feels that the "bridge to nowhere / convicted felon" Senator should be allowed to stay in office, they will probably make him a chairman of a fact finding committee on why the Senate's approval rating is so low.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:25 pm |
  170. Ginger H -- West Melbourne, FL

    Can he represent Alaskans from prison?

    November 18, 2008 at 3:26 pm |
  171. C. Farrell, Houston, Tx

    No, the Senate shouldn't expel Ted Stevens. The Governor of Alaska should have called for Steven's impeachment for failure to serve in his elected office while facing court hearings. Since that wasn't done, the voters of Alaska are left to do what appointed officials haven't done.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:26 pm |
  172. Jay in Texas

    If the Senate were to expel all its members who have committed felonies, they would never make a quorum with the remaining senators. Most of them have just not been nailed yet.
    Brownwood, Texas

    November 18, 2008 at 3:29 pm |
  173. George

    Any way you look at it Stevens is gone. The only thing that I would like to ask is how much had he done in all of the years in the Senate that needs explaining. Too bad for someone his age to go from Senator of the United States Senate, to a common felon.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:29 pm |
  174. Lynn, San Mateo FL

    Senator Stevens is a convicted Felon, he should not be allowed to serve. It's time Washington learned to play by the rules and respect laws

    November 18, 2008 at 3:31 pm |
  175. Sid....Texas

    YES...If the voters in Alaska re-elect Stevens, it will definitely give new meaning to the term "brain freeze" I guess that it really is colder than ice cream in Alaska......

    November 18, 2008 at 3:32 pm |
  176. Dani, Seattle

    Absolutely he should be expelled. He voted against helping Katrina victims, I'll never forget that. I was totally oblivious that my tax money is going to Iraq and not my fellow citizens in the gulf region during the aftemath of hurricane Katrina, because he voted against the bill and it didn't pass (not quite sure, but I think it passed later) still he should be ashamed.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:34 pm |
  177. Steve Peach - Indiana

    Yes, without a doubt. He is a criminal and and those who commit felonies have no place running our government. Well......Let me rephrase that. Those gorvernment officials who commit fellonies and get caught, tried, and convicted should be expelled. The others just need to pray they aren't the next ones in the hot seat!

    If Steven's isn't expelled, then the President and the Supreme Court should find a way to expell the rest of the crooks in the "old boy" network known as the US Senate!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:35 pm |
  178. Ralph Nelson

    Absolutely! This guy is so old my dad (Area Manager, State of Alaska, GSA) gave me a tour of his senate office in Anchorage when I was home on leave from Vietnam in 1968. Ralph, Yakima, Wa.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:35 pm |
  179. Scott - Kansas

    Every politician has a criminal past, Jack. That's how they got where they are in the first place. All the other senators are sitting there sweating because one of their number got revealed. They just siit there and pray that the next one won't be them. Of course he should be allowed to stay, if for no other reason than to serve as an inspiration to clean up their acts!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  180. Linda Chattanooga Tn

    Were else can a convicted felon work but in the Senate. It's hard to believe how the morales and values in this country have changed. If it were a common man or woman with a felony conviction do you think they would get the same break as a U.S.Senator. I don't think so. Oh that's right–they are all above the law and of course doesn't apply to them. So if he should win the Senate I am sure he will be right back in the Senate doing what he does best without any consequences.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  181. Will K from San Jose

    Well they should let him show up for at least one day. That way anyone running for office can claim the incumbent Senators "Pall around with convicted felons"

    November 18, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  182. andrea from foxborough, MA

    unequivocally yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  183. Lori, Cincinatti, OH

    Without a doubt Jack, what kind of nation have we become? That this question even has to be asked..

    November 18, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
  184. Aimee, STL, Missouri

    If they don't expel him I think they will have a lot of questions to answer. President-elect Obamas platform was change, but how can we trust that anything will change if no one is held responsible for his/her actions?

    November 18, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  185. William Goatski

    For God's sake...the man has been given a fair trial and a jury unanimously found him guilty of a felony. Need you even ask?

    Vero Beach, FL

    November 18, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  186. Dave

    Jack,
    Let me get this straight, if your convicted of a felony you can't vote, but you could get elected to the Senate? Something is very wrong with our system.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  187. Don

    Without question, YES!
    Frankly it should sadden all Americans that we even ask such a question.
    Don, Dallas

    November 18, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  188. DEB, WHITEHOUSE, OH

    Absolutely! If he has a shred of dignity he would resign.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
  189. Jim Bailey

    Expel...yeah...out the front door, using one of those circus human cannon ball cannons.
    See how many times he skips across the reflecting pond.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:43 pm |
  190. Tony in Michigan

    Yes they should, but then the Republicans will scream and cry about it being politically motivated, ignoring the fact that he was convicted by a jury. The reality is that come January he will get a presidential pardon and walk away from this altogether.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:45 pm |
  191. T. G. from the virgin islands

    Yes! If the Senate to allow him to keep his seat, the message they would be sending is that they are above the law.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:45 pm |
  192. Dennis, Cleveland ,Ohio

    ABSOLUTELY!!! We have enough criminals in our Government already.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:45 pm |
  193. Pat,Lexington, Ky.

    Jack – I must tell you that I was absolutely THRILLED to be watching you yesterday when you read my comment on the air!! I could n't believe it – it made my day! Heck, it made my year! And now I look forward to submitting another comment that might be good enough in 2009! Thanks again!!

    NOW – YES he should be expelled! Someone should just pack up his stuff and send it to him – he need not use taxpayers' money to return to Washington for anything!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:46 pm |
  194. Aaron G

    Are you kidding me? If the country's other felons cannot vote or even get hired into a government job, one should sure as heck not serve in an elected office. The Republicans will surely boot him if just to save collective face.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  195. Joyce in Florida

    If they don't, they're sending a message to the world that being a crook is okay as long as your name isn't Richard Nixon. Double standards, anyone?

    November 18, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
  196. Ray Kinserlow

    Good Lord! Yes!

    Ray Kinserlow
    Lubbock, Texas

    November 18, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  197. Ron

    Yes, Stevens should be expelled. We already have enough white collar theives on Capitol Hill, in fact if there is one more bailout the "People" of this Nation should expell the entire Congress and start over.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
  198. Tom in Desoto, TX

    Absolutely. I believe convicted felons lose their right to vote. Seem absurd they could still hold elected office. Maybe it's me....

    November 18, 2008 at 3:49 pm |
  199. Dave from Dayton,Ohio

    Jack,
    Yes, the right thing to do would be to expel him. What’s wrong here is that he was even allowed to run for office? I’m still trying to digest this, if your convicted of a felony you’re not allowed to vote, but if you are running for office, not a problem. Something is very wrong with our system.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:50 pm |
  200. Michael watching from Canada

    If Stevens wins, and if the Senate expels him, then Sarah Palin could replace him with herself. Therefore, they should not expel him.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:52 pm |
  201. John IL.

    If Mr. Stevens should win he should be held in jail and hold his seat.
    Gang leaders do it all the time. Anything to keep Palin out of washington please!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:53 pm |
  202. Russell, Seattle, WA

    Stevens old school with no meaningful contributions to the good of the nation...only to himself and a few of his cronies. If the Senate doesn't expel him it would cause me to wonder what he has on them. Any Republican could be as effective and most probably would be better.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:57 pm |
  203. matarr sillah

    Jack,
    If convicted felons cannot vote why on earth do they allow convicted felons to be voted for? Of course he should be expelled...the guts of this arrogant old man is unbelievable. Get rid of him now!

    November 18, 2008 at 3:58 pm |
  204. Debbie in San Marcos, CA

    Of course they should expel him! Are our expectations for our public servants really that low? If they are, maybe we deserve what we get.

    November 18, 2008 at 3:58 pm |
  205. Chad

    If Sen. Stevens is reelected by the citizens of Alaska, even though they know of his felony convictions, then let Alaska have him. If they don't have the sense to vote against him and thereby showing their own disgust for the senator's wrong-doings, then why should Congress dismiss him?

    November 18, 2008 at 4:18 pm |
  206. Ryan

    Jack,
    No he should not be in power. Furthermore, is this guy still eligible for a pension? Here in the real world, when something like that happens and you lose your job, in the public service sector you lose your pension.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:19 pm |
  207. Cillaty Daboh

    It is a shame the the US can acuse leaders of other countries
    of corruption but find a safe haven for thier own guilty of corruption.
    With the economy down, I hope this will not be the new
    US export.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:21 pm |
  208. Robin in SC

    A vote shouldn't be required; there should be a law that prohibits felons from serving in Congress – a person who can't vote for themself or anyone else shouldn't be allowed to have others vote for them! On the other hand, Palin will have a direct and quick route to DC if he's re-elected which would be disasterous. The best outcome for everyone would be for him to lose – he would save face, other senators wouldn't have to vote him out, and a democrat would represent Alaska in the Senate!
    Robin
    Greenville, SC

    November 18, 2008 at 4:23 pm |
  209. Karl

    Yes, definately.

    And, Alaska voters should be punished by losing a Senate seat. The first state with only one senator.

    Actually, just let Alaska secede, Sarah can be president and Stevens can be in their new senate.

    Karl
    Salt Lake City, UT

    November 18, 2008 at 4:26 pm |
  210. Ty from MI

    Stevens is a GREAT example of what is wrong with Washington. The sad part is that he's just one of the many that was caught. This clown needs to go – I'm sure we can find people who wouldn't commit crimes and abuse their office but actually TRY to help fix what's gone wrong with our country.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:30 pm |
  211. Alex from Brooklyn, NY

    Of course. But You're talking about something that is very unlikely, looking at the recent numbers coming out of that race. It's like asking "If the Cincinnati Bengals (who are 1-8-1 this season) win the AFC championship, will they lose the Superbowl?" The first condition is so unlikely that it's hardly worth talking about the second.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:30 pm |
  212. Matt from Sterling, VA

    Not only should the senate expel him, but he should be put under house arrest. What good is being convicted of a felony if there is absolutely no punishment associated with it?

    November 18, 2008 at 4:30 pm |
  213. Dan S Chicagoland Illinois

    Based on the fact that Uncle Ted is so close to being reelected. Alaska is the new Florida. There weren't by any chance butterfly ballots being used were there?

    November 18, 2008 at 4:30 pm |
  214. Colleen @ Saginaw, Michigan

    You betcha, eh........ Alaskans deserve better.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:30 pm |
  215. Nick from Chicago, IL

    Absolutely!!!!!!

    I find is appalling that he had the audacity to pursue a re-election campaign in the midst of this drama.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:30 pm |
  216. Kirsten

    I don't think they can Jack. If they do they'll be forced into conducting investigations into alot more Senators than just Stevens. Stevens should never have been reelected, but if he is, than Congress(whether it wants to or not) should heed to the wishes of Alaska. If Alaska wants a convicted felon for its senator thats their business. We shouldn't be able to tell other states who they can't elect.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
  217. Chris Kelly

    Of course he should. Would he even be able to vote for himself now that he's a convicted felon?

    November 18, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
  218. Dennis

    Expell him. This is Sarah Palin's ticket to Washington

    November 18, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
  219. Nick, Niagara Falls, NY

    YES! I wonder if he can see Russia from that nice deck that was built on his house.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:32 pm |
  220. Shelby

    Most employers wouldn't hire a convicted felon. Why should the American people?

    November 18, 2008 at 4:32 pm |
  221. Richard Winsor

    Absolutely!

    November 18, 2008 at 4:32 pm |
  222. Vick Welsh , Orange Park, Fl

    I think the people of Alaska should not be allowed to vote in any election that put someone in power outside of their state!! That way the rest of the nation wouldn't have to put up with their crooks, it would only effect them in the state offices they were elected too.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:33 pm |
  223. Tom in New Hope, MN

    Yes! Felons can't vote and felons should not be in the senate. His past record in the senate seems to indicate he has regularily operated on the fringe of legality. He has had his day in court it is time to expel him or make a mockery of our political system.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  224. Ken-Ohio

    You betcha a bowl of moose stew if he is re-elected, he should be expelled from the Senate and the state of Alaska be asked to seceed from the union. That state needs to take a serious look at its politicians, dislusional governor, now a convicted felon senator.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  225. Lisa, Austin, Texas

    It saddens me that you even have to pose the question. Of course a convicted felon has no place in elected office; what a shame that it has become a matter of debate.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  226. Derek

    Yes!

    November 18, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  227. Steve from Florida

    Of course! Why even bother posing the question?

    November 18, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  228. Mel, Portland Oregon

    Gee Jack what do you think the GOP is doing? Saving it for another GOP member.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:44 pm |
  229. Tom Hayes

    Certainly he should be expelled, but why wait until the election results are decided? Do it now. But the more important question is, "What are the voters of Alaska thinking?" The very fact that he received enough votes to make this a close race is to me very disturbing.

    This is not a political issue at all. This is a question of ethics in government, of corruption at the top. A convicted felon does not even have the right to vote. Ted Stevens should be barred from the Senate chambers immediately. We need a law to make a felony conviction grounds to be removed from office. I am shocked that this is not already in place.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:44 pm |
  230. Jeannie, Virginia Beach VA

    Considering you lose your right to vote in American elections when you get convicted of a felony, I want to know how it is even legal for a convicted felon to remain in position as a senator?

    So, some grubby "average joe" doing time in prison can't vote for president, but yet we can have scum like Senator Stevens voting and dictating policies that will shape our country's future??

    Makes NO sense whatsoever.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:45 pm |
  231. Jennifer - Orlando, FL

    Few skills are required of our elected officials but we should demand that they possess good judgment and common sense, both of which are seriously lacking in Mr. Stevens. It seems absurd that the question of expelling him has even arisen the citizens of Alaska should have dealt with this at the polls. I guess what this says is that we cannot expect from our elected officials which we cannot in ourselves demonstrate.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:45 pm |
  232. Ed'sKate

    Why not, Congress needs a few good laughs once in a while and his replacement, Palin, would guarantee that. Good grief, what am I saying?

    November 18, 2008 at 4:45 pm |
  233. NJA

    If he wins the election, he absolutely must be expelled. This is not a party-line issue...this is a 7 Felony guilty conviction issue and is also about the character of people who should be allowed to run our Government. How many times was he NOT caught doing dirty deeds?

    But, I think the question is actually moot...after all the votes are counted, it looks like he's going to lose anyway.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  234. Deb

    No question there....He should be expelled and sent to prison.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  235. PAT California

    My money is on his losing!!!! Any thing else will put Palin in. I've seen enough of her and so has the rest of the country!

    November 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  236. Kim, Dodge City, Kansas

    He should be punished much harsher than just expelled. If you, or I, or any one of millions of average citizens were convicted of a felony, we would be doing hard time. But hey, this is a Senator, and they protect their own, so nothing will probably happen.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  237. Joe in Tyler TX

    He's been convicted, He is a felon. Of course, he could be pardoned. Not only should he be expelled if given another term, he should also be stripped of his retirement. If the judge doesn't give him jail time then our criminal justice system is in bad trouble. Of course, Stevens says the system is bad because he was convicted.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:53 pm |
  238. don

    Expel and censure this arrogant clown. Another one of the Washington Elite in the public trough for far too many years. He needs to be stripped of all benefits related to pension and health care. I would think a prison term will take some of that arrogance away.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:53 pm |
  239. Jackie

    In a word, YES!!

    November 18, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
  240. T.Wolf

    The question people should be asking is "Why hasn't he been expelled ?". He was convicted several (4?) weeks ago. Even if we have to endure another 6 weeks of fame from Governor what's-her-name, whom we would all like to forget, Harry Reid and the rest of the Old Boys club should throw that bum out yesterday. And I hope the IRS has sense enough to go after him for tax evasion.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
  241. fred N.C.

    since convicted felons cannot vote he wouldn't be qualified for the position now would he?

    November 18, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
  242. HS in SD

    Yes, and Sarah Palin should take his position. She would make a wonderful Senator and become even better prepared to win the Presidency in 2012!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
  243. Linda in Bisbee, AZ

    Not unless you want to see the palin woman in DC. I sure don't. But this is academic. He's not going to win.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:55 pm |
  244. Jenny from Nanuet, New York

    No. I don't see how having a convicted felon in the Republican party could hurt them any more than they've already been hurt. They should stay true to their "convictions" and keep him for as long as they're able.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:56 pm |
  245. Jean

    Oh, you betcha!

    November 18, 2008 at 4:57 pm |
  246. Rick

    Yes. Plain and simple, Senator Stevens unlawfully accepted gifts while sitting as a United States Senator. He is a corrupt politician who should hold an office based upon the public trust. Remove him as an example to all politicians that such activity will not and cannot be tolerated and will result in your removal, no matter what office or position you hold.

    November 18, 2008 at 4:58 pm |
  247. Davide

    Yes, just like so many other convicted before him, he is not only a disgrace to his people, he is a disgrace to the office he is re-elected into. I can understand why the people who he has represented for decades will not want to turn their back on him. Maybe it is time to consider a term limit for congress like some other elected offices

    November 18, 2008 at 4:59 pm |
  248. Ken, Mdwest

    My first reaction is yes, but then I realized that Sarah Palin might take his place. Maybe we should keep him as the lesser of two evils.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:00 pm |
  249. Dann Kramer

    Yes, they should expel him. Stevens has too much power in the Senate. A felon with power is a bad brew. How disgraceful it would be to leave him in the Senate. Get rid of him.

    Dan
    Denver, CO

    November 18, 2008 at 5:00 pm |
  250. Joanne

    Yes, I believe if he is reelected- he should be expelled from the Senate. After all is was not found innocent- he was found guilty.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:00 pm |
  251. Travis Bewley

    I find this whole thing to be a farce. How in the world can you vote for someone like this? Alaskans should be ashamed. Even if you can't stand the democrats how in the world do you put your trust in a convicted felon.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:02 pm |
  252. Chip Mills

    Senator Stevens should resign and preserve what little dignity he has left, regardless of any pending appeal; and if he won't, the Senate should promptly expel him if he does not lose or resign. Alaska and the American people deserve that much. Chip Mills, Sun Valley, ID

    November 18, 2008 at 5:02 pm |
  253. Jack

    The question should have been "If convicted felon Stevens is not expelled, will any American ever have faith in the Senate again?"

    November 18, 2008 at 5:02 pm |
  254. john

    Jack,

    I think Stevens is the posterchild of of what" we the people" have been conditioned into calling normal. I think even entertaining the idea that he should remain in office is absurd...

    John Spokane Wa

    November 18, 2008 at 5:03 pm |
  255. Moss

    Barring a law that prohibits him from holding a Senate seat, no action should be taken to overturn the verdict of the electorate that chose him to represent them over all other candidates. Its called democracy. However, if there is no law currently barring convicted felons, there may be a case for passing one.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:03 pm |
  256. Julio in Houston

    There is absolutely no reason why this man should retain his position or his pay in the U.S. Senate. He is a disgrace and it would be an even bigger disgrace should our own government let him keep his seat.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:03 pm |
  257. Robyn Smith

    As a lifelong Alaskan I hope Begich has him beat, but if not, yes he deserves to be expelled! And yes, there are politicians on both sides of the aisle guilty of worse than ol' Uncle Ted, but TED GOT CAUGHT...plain and simple. If you get caught, you should be punished – didn't we all learn that as children? And while they are at it, what can be done about renaming the "Ted Stevens International Airport" in Anchorage...isn't it smarter to wait until a politician is gone before naming something after him??

    November 18, 2008 at 5:04 pm |
  258. jean Rohrer

    I'd love to think Stevens has enough morals and ethics to resign, but given his history, and his party of endless corruption (not a monoply, by any means), if he actually wins the election his butt should be kicked so hard and high by the Senate as to bounce when he lands.

    Jean SW Hbr, ME

    November 18, 2008 at 5:04 pm |
  259. Jeff Freeman

    Nevermind the fact that Senator Stevens committed his crimes while serving in the Senate. Convicted felons cannot even vote! How in the world could a convicted felon then serve in the United States Senate? It is laughable and an insult to the office and our government.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:04 pm |
  260. Rico (Orlando)

    The fact that the Senators of America of America have not already expeled him says something about the respect they have for the body of government to which they are members

    November 18, 2008 at 5:04 pm |
  261. Jacki in NOVA

    Jack,
    If Stevens rears his head in Alaska as the victor, I feel confident that Governor Pailin will say, "Thanks, but no thanks," as she convinces the Senator he is critically needed to assist her in keeping an eye of the skies above from his rennovated home.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  262. garrick

    hi jack
    yes he should go away and then come back to replace Palin as govenor
    bay pines fl

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  263. Jason

    Nope! This shows why Alaskans should not be allowed to vote. Wait, the governor of the state is the reason Alaskans should not be allowed to vote.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  264. Charles, Portland, OR

    Jack,
    What a great message it would send to the country and the rest of the world if he isn't! We allow convicted felons to serve as U.S. Senators. Not that anyone, here or abroad, would really be surprised, given what's gone on for the last 8 years.
    Charles

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  265. Debbie Singh

    Yes, he should be expelled. We have to set examples for the younger generation.

    You cannot be rewarded for breaking the law.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  266. Kevin

    Yes he should be given the boot. I'm not sure why the senate doesn't already have rules about bribes. I sure do know that if i was convicted of taking bribes i'd be fired on the spot! Why should our law makers who wield much more power than the average knuckle-dragger like me be exempt punishment for wrong doing?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  267. julia

    If they don't throw him out and he goes to jail, does his seat remain empty while he serves his term? That may be the best answer.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  268. Claus Koenig

    Well, President George will pardon him when he leaves the office. Senator Stevens should resign voluntarily which is the appropriate way, but then he is a felon and does not care about proper. His chicken Republican fellow Senators showed indecisive. I guess that means, if he wins the race, the Senate is his space.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  269. Ali

    It saddens me that there are those that would rather vote for a convicted felon than vote for a Democrat. Ted Stevens does not belong in the Senate, and should have been expelled the minute he was convicted.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  270. educated Ron

    No

    If they people have spoken, the people have spoken.

    I think that the people should be able to vote for Pardons that have the same power as a presidential pardon. The majority of the people need to be the leader of america for those types of things.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:06 pm |
  271. Gary

    I hope they keep him in the Senate...they he'll be referred to as "the Distinguished Senator and Convicted Felon from the Great State of Alaska." Should bring a great deal of pride to his home state.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:06 pm |
  272. Sean Patterson

    Duh! And for that matter, so should McCain. He's lucky to have gotten a slap on the wrist after the Keating 5 scandal. It about time the "boys club" that is the U.S. Senate turns into the government accountability office, and we remove corrupt politicians from serving the American public.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:06 pm |
  273. Jon Gill,philadelphia

    This is a trick question isn't it. He should have been expelled the second he was convicted. Not only should he be expelled, but he should lose his pension. Let his oil buddies take care of him.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:06 pm |
  274. Bill

    Convicted felons can't vote, why should they be allowed to serve in Congress?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:07 pm |
  275. Dennis North Carolina

    YES

    November 18, 2008 at 5:07 pm |
  276. Bryan

    A convicted criminal right? That is what the GOP is all about these days. Lies deceit and say anything to scare people tactics are all they are about! Shows why people in Alaska like Palin so much. They are so out of touch that they have now elected a criminal.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:09 pm |
  277. Beth from Richmond, Virginia

    Of course he should expelled! If you can't vote you should not be premitted to be a senator. What does it say about the judgement of the voters in Alaska when obviously a huge number of them voted for a convicted felon???

    November 18, 2008 at 5:09 pm |
  278. Sandra

    He most certainly should..a felon is a felon no matter what job he had held before the conviction.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  279. JV

    YES. He can't even vote himself! What kind of image is he giving others?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  280. Rodney in Long Island

    Of Course he should be expelled! It's ironic that a felon can remain a U.S. senate, but can't vote for their own senators in some states

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  281. Cody, Tacoma, WA

    This is the epitome of being a no-brainer. Rally cry: "DUH!"

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  282. Joseph Lowrey

    Says a lot about Alaska, doesn't it? They elected an imbecile for governor and are close to re-electing a convicted felon to the Senate. Also says quite a bit about Republicans, too.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  283. SAGG

    Yes, obviously. Sen. Stevens was found guilty, on ALL counts. He should go, period. What baffles me is why the race was close in the first place. I don't care how long the man has been there and have served his fellow Alaskans with pork, Begich should've waltzed in. To send Stevens back would be a travesty. Hopefully, from the way it looks, we won't have to worry about that (and Palin stepping in).

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  284. Dianne, Colorado Springs

    Absolutely. Convicted felons have no right to serve in Congress. Their voting rights are taken away. Allowing a convicted felon to serve in Congress is preposterous.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  285. Dicky Neely

    Hi Jack,
    If Stevens wins the recount it will be further proof Alaskans are more worried about pork than integrity. After all, they elected Sarah Palin as Governor. (I have no room to point fingers, my state elected Rick Perry as guv.)
    If Stevens does win he should be ousted from the Senate.
    Dicky Neely
    Corpus Christi, Tx.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  286. Greg

    Of course he should be expelled. Why should this fellon be allowed to vote in the Senate, while thousands of other fellons can't even vote in elections?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  287. Alex

    Of course he should,

    Not only has he embarrassed his party, but the senate and the country too. If he is allowed to return to the senate, what kind of message does that send, smooth talk the people and you can do anything? If convicted felons lose their voice, you certainly shouldn't be given the voice of a state.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  288. Lance Brown

    Absolutely. Stevens should definitely be expelled.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  289. Rudolph Williams

    It is beyond the realm of my mind, to understand how Senator Stevens has the temerity to think that as a convicted felon he has the right to represent any constituency in the U.S. Politicians are some of the most arrogant, self serving people on the face of the earth. It would be a travesty if Senator Stevens is allowed to maintain his senate seat is he wins the election .

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  290. Gary, Pampa Texas

    well, of course, a resounding Y E S

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  291. Amy

    What a joke, we live in a country where felons loose the right to vote, but not the right to legislate. If this isn't the pinnacle of hypocrisy I don't know what is.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  292. concerned citizen

    Under our laws, a convicted felon is oftentimes deprived of the right to vote for elected officals. Does Senators have a different set of laws?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  293. Ron from SF

    If the Democrats can give Lieberscum his gavel at Fatherland Security, then why should Ted Stevens be kicked out? Treason is far worse than lying and what Stevens did, was far less than what Benedict Lieberman did.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  294. Jim H.

    Yes sir he should be booted, if we were in that situation our butts would have been bounced a long time ago. Just because a person is in the Senate should make no difference.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  295. Don

    Yes and what does this say about the people who voted for him? Alaskans should be ashamed.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  296. Scott (Columbia, SC)

    It's funny how the Senate wants to wait for all the facts on Ted Stevens before casting a vote, but when it comes to bailout money, their mantra is "the sooner the vote, the better."

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  297. Mike in St. Pete Beach, Florida

    Wouldn't it be more fitting for his own party, whose platform in the 2000 election was "restoring honor and dignity to the White House" be the ones to expel him? If they don't, of course the Senate should. I am not sure how much more honor and dignity this country can take.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  298. Gardner

    This seems like a no-brainer. Perhaps the reason the Senate won't act now is one of tradition (don't act till required). Moreover I'm inclined to feel that the only difference between Stevens and the rest of the Senate is that HE got caught.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  299. Rob

    No way Jack! It's the will of the people. Just another example of how Alaska voters have been "keeping the bar low" for their elected officials.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  300. Bill Adams

    Sen. Stevens must be expelled if the Senate still has honor, and a respect of laws. Americans' trust in their government must be restored after 8 years of constitutional abuse.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  301. Jason B., Ft. Lauderdale, FL

    Absolutely, the Senate should expel Ted Stevens. I can't believe the incredible mindset of the Alaskan people to almost elect a criminal to represent their interests!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  302. Trasa

    Jack,

    They need to expel him because he's been found guilty and if the people of Alaska actually vote him in, then obviously they will continue to have corrupt people that Sarah was talking about having to get rid of.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  303. Jeffrey

    Why would the crooks on the hill expel one of their own? They're all a bunch criminals, just look at the economy. Blame Wall Street, blame the CEO's of the banks, auto industry, etc. but a the end of the day it's the lawmakers that should be blamed for failing the American people!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  304. Andrew M (University of Florida)

    I think President Bush will pardon Stevens as he leaves office so the Senate won't officially have to work with a convicted felon.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  305. Ken

    Jack, yes Mr. Stevens should be expelled. The republicans should not hold a double standard when it comes to ethics and morals.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  306. wayne seivers

    Ted Stevens could not even go inside the voting booth and cast a vote for himself. Why? Because he is a convicted felon. The senate should not have to expel him the law should disallow him from being a member of the most elite club in all the world.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  307. Jim

    Why expel him? We need to keep him with the rest of the crooks!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  308. Angel Bristol Colon

    A member of the US Senate, the top chamber of the land in charge of even investigating the President and keeping check and balance, should expel a convicted felon immediately. What example are they setting for future generation of American elected officials? Expel Stevens NOW!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  309. Jay, Niagara Falls, Ont

    A lot of folks out there can't get a lousy job in a warehouse unless they have a spotless record. A kid with a drug charge can't get a federal student loan. And this convicted clown could still be allowed to hold his seat? Members of high office should be held to the same standards of employment eligibility as their constituents. I would love to see randon urine tests in Congress.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  310. Lee Bauman

    Ted Kennedy is still in the Senate after killing MaryJo, So what's wrong with Stevens again??

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  311. Chris

    Absolutely. Stevens was handed seven felony convictions. Who knows how many others he got away with. I cannot believe he chose to run for reelection instead of just retiring gracefully and shielding this family from further embarrassment.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  312. Martin Mehlberth

    Of course they should, but there are so many crooks & liars in the Senate that they will probably welcome him back with open arms.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  313. Chris (Charleston, SC)

    Jack,

    I find it personally repugnant that circumstances are such that this question needs be asked, and that our Senate would allow into it's body a person so unfit to hold an office of profit or trust in our government.

    By all means, Give them man the "right foot of fellowship" and get send him back to Alaska!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  314. Tyson (San Diego, CA)

    Only in Las Vegas is the number 'seven' a lucky number; in Washington D.C. however, seven felonies means that Senator Stevens is out of luck.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  315. Charley

    This question should be totally irrelevant. The fact that a convicted felon can be a US Senator, US Representative or hold any other elected office is beyond my imagination. Do convicted felons even retain the right to vote? In any city I'm aware of, no convicted felon can be a police officer or a fireman. I guess I just don't understand. Perhaps the only real difference between Senator Stevens and some of his colleagues is that he has been convicted.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  316. Elaine Ballard

    He should absolutely be expelled. How can that even be a question? A convicted felon cannot even vote in elections, so why should he be allowed to represent the American people. I can't believe this is even up for debate!!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  317. Ken Lamb

    How long has Ted Kennedy been in the Senate? Yes Stevens should be ousted from the Senate, But so should all unethical members.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  318. Taylor K. of Florida

    Not only should he be expelled, he shouldn't even be allowed to serve in the first place. If convicted felons can't vote, why are they allowed to hold public office?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  319. James in IA

    No, if the senate expels him, we'll have Sen. Palin. I'd pick a crook over that any day. At least it shows he has experience taking from the people to his own ends, that's what the government's all about, right?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  320. Dennis W. Houde

    He should not even get that far, but if he dose, he should be expelled and all of his pension and medical and what ever otther perks you get should be taken away.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  321. Addie / Altanta

    Absolutely! The senate should be an example and not reward people who break the law; not to mention, I don't want to pay his salary with my tax dollars. Furthermore, if Stevens is allowed to return to the Senate, I hope every convicted felon follow suit and run for senate office around the nation, that way, Stevens can serve with like peers!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  322. Joel Obuchon

    Jack, you'd think any elected official convicted of any crimes, let alone felonies, would be automatically expeled from office. I wonder why it takes a any kind of vote to unload him. Stevens gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar and he goes on about his business as if a criminal conviction is normal. Not only does it say very little for the character and ethics of our elected officials, it really makes me frightened of what happens in Alaska.
    Joel
    Crescent City, Ca.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  323. Josh in Chapel Hill, NC

    Yes. If the people of Alaska elect as one of their Senators a man ineligible to vote as a convicted felon and the Senate allows him to participate in the legislative process, the Senate approval ratings would probably go into the negatives.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  324. Dan from Maine

    Jack of coarse he should be expelled,but don't you think that birds of a feather will stick together. Crooks and con's Jack

    November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  325. Cindy Barracca

    What I don't understand is that in Florida you can't even vote if you are a convicted felon. Yet in Alaska a convicted felon can be elected to the US Senate. How does that work? There's something very wrong with this picture.
    Stevens should be automatically stripped of his senate seat as well as his hefty pension that you and I pay for.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  326. gloria21213

    He should be expelled and he should do some time. I pray that he loses the Sen race, so that hockey mom won't try to ease her way back into the spotlight. Please keep her in alaska where she belongs. if I see anymore of her I will get sick and i can't afford to get sick. I don't have health insurance.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  327. Christopher from Albany, NY

    Convicted felons can’t vote in federal elections. They shouldn’t be able to vote on legislation as members of Congress, either, whether it is Stevens or anyone else.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  328. Terry C.

    It's obvious why the arrogant Mr. Stevens wants to see if he can be elected.... if he is and is forced to resign, the Gov. of the State can then appoint his replacement, which would surely be a Republican. However, if he bows out now, which would be the proper thing to do, the Democrat running against him will probably fill the position.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  329. Dennis Devlin

    An absurd question. Of course he should be expelled. As a conviceted felon I believe he should also lose his right to vote.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:18 pm |
  330. L. Nelson

    No One convicted of a felony should serve as an elected official. If the conviction is overturned on appeal that person can use the facts of the case as a pont for re-election. One can not enforce rules when their ability to abide by them is in question. It is a mater of logic not politics

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  331. Sandy from Wasilla, Alaska

    I am almost embarassed to say that I am from the same state "Uncle Teddy" is. I have a hard time understanding why the race is even close. If, and God help us if he is re-elected, he should be expelled immediately. As for thinking about not doing it now is a slap to all Americans. If he has been convicted, even though he says he hasn't, we don't need him there. This would go for any Congress member. Come on members of Congress, do your duty. Does he have something on any of you? It doesn't matter what you personnaly think of Stevens but what should YOU as an elected official do.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  332. Elaine Ballard

    I am writing from McKinney, Texas.

    He should absolutely be expelled from the Senate. How can a convicted felon be allowed to represent the American people. By law, a felon cannot even vote in elections. I cannot believe this is even up for debate. There should not be two sets of rules - those for elected officials and politicians, and those for the average person.

    Elaine Ballard
    McKinney, Texas

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  333. Mike from Philadelphia PA

    Yes of course. However since nearly half of Alaskan's voted for him anfd over half voted for Palin perhaps we should just kick Alaska out of the Union and save us from both of them.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  334. Ty Williams

    Absolutely! It would be a travesty and a mockery of our government to allow Sen. Stevens to remain in the senate if he is re-elected. We as a whole should send a clear message to our government. It's not our fault that Teddy Boy got caught with his hands in the proverbial cookie jar!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  335. Nebraskan

    In many states, a felon loses many rights, including the right to vote. Obviously Alaska doesn't feel that way, but how can Americans as a whole allow a Senator who has multiple felony convictions to hold office?
    Americans should band together to demand Stevens removal from office!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  336. jim s

    Teddy....You're outta here.....

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  337. Sandy Waxman

    The senate would be wrong not to expel a criminal....why would they even consider keeping him? That wouldn't happen in the "real world"

    Sandy
    Muncie, In

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  338. VINCENT FISCELLA

    As i understand the law, if you are a felon you cannot vote. So how can it be that you would be allowed to make a law as a felon?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  339. Justin B

    I can't believe he's even still in the race, and worse, that it's so close. Why did half of Alaska vote for a convicted felon to represent their state in the senate in the first place?

    If Stevens had even a shred of decency or self respect he'd step down rather than be embarrassingly given the proverbial 'Boot' by his own peers in the senate. What's going through this guys mind?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  340. Greg B

    I was convicted of a felony when I was eighteen years old. I lost my say in the democratic process, my right to vote. If I cant even vote how in the world can this man have a say in the senate!!! Its just wrong.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  341. Kenith.J.Bolston

    Of course he should be expelled, Why should Sen.Stevens keep his job after such controversy. But from what i see and hear Alaska doesn't really care about his 7 convictions, What does that say about Alaskans as a whole?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  342. Jason Columbus, Ohio

    I am having a hard time understanding if it is even legal for him to serve. After all isn't it a requirement to be a registered elector in order to hold public office. And if not, why wouldn't it be!? I am going to research the constitution to find out but that's my question for you.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  343. Dan from Syracuse, NY

    If a felon looses his right to vote in the General Election then I guess I need a law degree to understand how a felon can vote in the Senate.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  344. Lewis

    Lewis From Mequon, Wisconsin:

    If Stevens got elected, it means the people of Alaska have spoken but if Alaska is a state that does not allow convicted criminals to vote, then he needs to be thrown out of office pronto,

    November 18, 2008 at 5:19 pm |
  345. Brandon

    Absolutely. The "Honorable Senator Stevens" is no longer honorable. If he conceals personal gifts, what's he doing with our tax dollars? Earmarking them for building a new vacation home? We need to rid Capitol Hill of corruption and Stevens has made himself an easy target. The rest of the lawmakers in Washington need to generate at least a little bit of courage and make a decision based on our the results of our judicial system, instead of whether or not it benefits them politically. They have not an ounce of guts between them.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  346. Bill from Maine

    If Stevens is expelled, that opens the door for Sarah Palin - what's worse, the devil you know or the devil you don't know?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  347. Kevin from Ohio

    The fact that Mr. Stevens is still on the ballot and received a single vote is a political tragedy. The audacity of this man thinking he is somehow entitled to his Senate seat is beyond me. For some reason the fact that I have a misdemeanor on my record keeps me from getting a job but this gentlemen is a convicted felon and could possibly keep his seat in the U.S. Senate. Apparently Sarah Palin isn't the only person in Alaska that seems to be a few blocks short of an igloo.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  348. Eva

    Since convicted felons lose their right to vote, Stevens should certainly lose his senate seat. There should not be separate rules for citizens and lawmakers. Kick him out now!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  349. James

    I'm split – I fully agree with him being expelled as he doesn't deserve to hold a public office as a felon. But if he's expelled, that opens the door for Sarah Palin to appoint herself to the Senate. I certainly can't stand the thought of her potentially becoming a senator!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  350. Cory - Madison, WI

    They're all a bunch of crooks. Why wast time booting one if you're not going to expel 100??

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  351. Charles Inskeep

    It is illegal for a felon to vote. No one with felony convictions should be allowed to serve in the senate or the house. PERIOD!!!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  352. Barbara - 65 yr old white female in NC

    Yes, he should be sent packing IF he wins – Alaskans "ain't too smart" are they? Voting for a convicted felon. Shame Shame Shame.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  353. Chris in SLO California

    I cannot believe he ran in the first place. Are there seriously no laws blocking a convicted felon from running for the senate? If convicted felons can't vote in the general election, how could one be a Senator?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  354. David from Newport OR

    I am not a Republican and I am not an Alaskan...if they both think it is OK for a criminal to be in office, then who am I to criticize them? If Ted was from my state, or my party, I would be actively working to have him expelled. What a group of people consider ethical is not for me to judge.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:20 pm |
  355. Jim from Milton PA

    Jack He will not be a felon for long, because our wonderful president will pardon him. For all his years in the senate don't you think his wife forgot to pay other bills? There are no crooks in politics just elected people doing the will of the people.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
  356. Jan D.

    Dear Jack,

    Gosh, I'm so confused. To my knowledge, convicted felons lose the privilege/right to vote, right? But they retain the privilege/right to run for public office? And if elected, they vote on issues that affect all Americans?

    Well, the Washington egomania is truly over-the-top. There is a noticable lack of morals and ethics worldwide, and nowhere more evident than in Washington.

    "Senator" Stevens, relax. You're so old they won't put you in prison. You can enjoy retirement in the home that graft built and your heirs will inherit it eventually. Consider your home a monument to greed and corruption. Hope you're proud of yourself. We're not.

    Jan in Elkhorn, Wisconsin

    November 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
  357. Joe

    As long as Sarah Palin is waiting in the wings, he won't be expelled. The Democrats have a majority, and they'll always choose a criminal over a popular conservative.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
  358. Adam from Green Bay, WI

    Jack,

    Ted Stevens should be expelled from the Senate once it is confirmed he was re-elected. The scary scenario is however, that the Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin would be responsible for appointing someone to the open seat. Who would she appoint? Sarah Palin will appoint herself to the Senate seat, and put herself on the National stage to prepare herself for a 2012 Presidential run.

    Adam

    Green Bay, WI

    November 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
  359. Roger Patt

    We should hope that Mr. Stevens will be spending time in jail, not in the Senate. The Senate must expel him in order to retain respectability. This is not a reformed ex-convict, this is an arrogant convicted crook.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
  360. Margaret Galiardi

    Yes, Yes and Yes. And what don't you understand about yes? And anyone who does not vote to expel should be thrown out of the Senate for aiding and abetting a criminal.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
  361. B

    Are you kidding me! The answer is no! Convicted felons have no place in the US Senate. We have enough criminals in the US Senate never mind convicted ones. Can you believe the ego!?!? Give it up... and what does it say about the people of Alaska who support hm and his actions by possibly re-electing him?

    B

    Boston, MA

    November 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
  362. Patrick Card

    It should be obvious, shouldn't it? He's a convicted criminal, plain and simple. He certainly doesn't belong in the US Senate.

    Patrick
    Pennsylvania
    Currently studying in Coleraine, Northern Ireland

    November 18, 2008 at 5:22 pm |
  363. BOB

    You betcha......he's got to go. Seven felony counts and someone thinks he should stay in office? BuhBye Teddy

    November 18, 2008 at 5:30 pm |
  364. 39 years in Alaska

    No,no no! If you actually read what was going on through out the trial, the prosecution team with-held evidence that would have helped Ted, and were several times Chewed out by the judge in the trial. Then the jurors seemed to be a bunch of flakes too; first they want one kicked off because she was threatening other jurors(what?) and then another one said her father died, but actually was nuts and went to a horse-race in California. Then they got another juror, supposedly to start deliberations all over again, and they come back with a guilty verdict in a few hours, from 6 weeks of evidence! What??
    The right of every American is to have a fair trial; Ted Stevens DID NOT get this, he deserves at least that! I would bet you my dividend check he is found NOT guilty on his appeal. BTW< I also do NOT want Palin in his job! Not all Alaskans are snowed by her fluffy/coached talk, and lack of....brains.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:30 pm |
  365. Caroll

    Yes, absolutely. What are the Alaskan people thinking? During the campaign, we were bombarded with the comment how Palin's approval rating was 80%. If almost 50% of those same people voted for a convicted felon, what does that say about their judgement? As far as I'm concerned the 80% just went down the tubes for me!!! Means nothing.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:31 pm |
  366. Eva

    Yes! He should be expelled and so should the Bush administration. U mean to tell me u can get a goverment job with felonie!! Ready for CHANGE!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:31 pm |
  367. Jim

    Jack,

    Stevens has been an embarrassment for decades to anyone paying attention. Of course he should be expelled. It doesn't have to be the end of his political career though. He can run for Governor of Alaska as soon as Sarah Palin wins his Senate seat.

    Jim
    Reno, Nevada

    November 18, 2008 at 5:31 pm |
  368. Chris

    If he wins, then Stevens should resign immediately and pave the way for his replacement. If he refuses to resign, then the Senate should expel him immediately. This was a felony, not a parking ticket.

    As for the conviction, considering Stevens extreme age and years of service, Obama should pardon him as soon as he gets in office.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
  369. Missy M

    Shouldn't this be an issue for the voters to decide?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
  370. Jenny

    Yes, he should be expelled. We neither need or should tolerate a convicted fellon in the US Senate.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
  371. Marc M

    He should not be expelled.

    If we can elect a president without a US Birth Certificate, we can let Stevens finish out his term.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
  372. Ross Purintun

    Being a middle of the road Independent my thoughts are mixed. Stevens should be absolutely expelled immediately! He has committed a felony (7). But we just had a prez that committed perjury (a felony), was impeached, disbarred in his home state, and remained in office. What's up with that?

    November 18, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
  373. Rose

    Yes. Seven felony convictions, why is even a question

    November 18, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  374. Stephen Kahn

    Jack,

    No. If the people of Alaska feel that a conficted felon is the best person to represent their needs, shouldn't they have him.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  375. Andrew Adler

    Of course-he's a convicted criminal!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  376. Patricia G, Houston, TX

    amazing...Absolutely amazing...! he should do the right the thing and respectfully resign from any possible consideration!!!!! Wow, amazing!

    November 18, 2008 at 5:33 pm |
  377. Tanya Lenox

    Of coarse he should be expelled, kicked out, banned, and removed from the senate!! He is a convicted fellon, in the US, convicted fellons are stripped from their right to vote and this does not exclude him. He is voting for our countries future and if the other fellons can not vote why should he? That is a right you are given as a decent citizen and he has broke his trust with the American people and we no longer trust his judgement or his vote. He will no longer be able to vote for president or any other figure for our Country due to his convictions. He should be ashamed for his actions and step down.

    Seattle, WA

    November 18, 2008 at 5:34 pm |
  378. Kyle

    The real question here is how could the people of Alaska give him this many votes to actually be in the running? Shame on the people of Alaska.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:35 pm |
  379. Jeff, Massachusetts

    Don't expel him! As a Republican, he is in the minority, which bodes well for the Democrats. Considering his length of service as a Senator, his pension will be substantial. If he doesn't prevail with his appeals process, the country as a whole stands to save an enormous amount of cash. Also, he's poison on Capital Hill, which means that not even his peers will endorse anything he sponsors. The people of Alaska voted him in, so let them decide whether or not he should continue to represent them.
    Jeff,
    Massachusetts

    November 18, 2008 at 5:35 pm |
  380. Jess, Ohio

    Yes. Why should a CONVICTED FELON serve in our Senate? Why is this even a question? I am still in disbelief that the people of Alaska could actually go into that voting booth and vote for him. How disconnected can the people of Alaska be???

    November 18, 2008 at 5:42 pm |
  381. Scott

    If Alaska were to reelect Stevens, it would send a sad message about
    today's politics. A convicted felon would be allowed to serve his country and his state as a public official! Congress should oust him now and give the Republicans a speck of respectability.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:42 pm |
  382. Michael Stout

    Give Stevens the boot, and a lot of jail time. Or make him listen to Sarah Palin for a whole year. That should be punishment enough.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:42 pm |
  383. Danny in Tallahassee, FL

    If that were me, I would lose my job and go directly to jail. Absolutely, He should lose his job at least.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:42 pm |
  384. Al Cidmore

    Fellow Congressmen were quick to distance themselves from Mark Foley and Larry Craig but I suspect the foot dragging going on with Ted Stevens is indicative of how close to home his crimes were.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
  385. Mike

    If the people of Alaska choose to put a convicted felon in the senate, then they should have that right. The senate has no business overruling what the people of Alaska want. Hopefully, he will lose his re-election bid, but if he should prevail then the senate should seat him.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:43 pm |
  386. Judy Ames

    Absolutely not. A felon is a felon and should resign immediately.

    November 18, 2008 at 5:43 pm |