FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
The Democratic National Convention is shaping into quite some party for Hillary Clinton.
Her name will be placed into nomination. She'll give a prime-time address, introduced by her daughter Chelsea. Her husband, former President Bill Clinton, will get his own plum speaking slot on a separate night. She will also have her own production team to create the introductory video that precedes her speech – the same people who produced Bill Clinton's biography video "The Man from Hope" in 1992.
And, there's now language in the party's platform that refers to the "18 million cracks in the highest glass ceiling," and suggests that media sexism contributed to Hillary's defeat. All this makes it easy to forget that Hillary Clinton is the loser.
Barack Obama and Clinton say they agreed to put both of their names into nomination after weeks of negotiating. It's meant to help unite the party and head off potential embarrassing problems at the convention from Hillary supporters. You can bet Obama wants a drama-free convention and sees this laundry list of concessions as a way of keeping the peace.
Others suggest this amounts to little more than extortion. One expert says the Clintons have "got Obama hostage and are exacting their ransom" with all of these convention demands. New York Daily News columnist Michael Goodwin writes that "Obama blinked and stands guilty of appeasing Clinton”. He points out by giving in to her, Obama doesn't stand to get any votes he wouldn't have gotten anyway, and that those who refuse to accept him as the legitimate winner probably won't change their minds because he's caved in.
If he can't stand up to Hillary, how's he going to fare against Vladimir Putin?
Here’s my question to you: When it comes to the convention, has Barack Obama let Hillary Clinton take over?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
Diane from Florida writes:
Jack, Can you imagine if the shoe were on the other foot? If Hillary had won the nomination and Obama were asking to have his delegation recognized? Do you really think that Michelle would be speaking one night introduced by the Obama daughters and Barack would have a speaking engagement the next night? Not on your life! Bill and Hillary would have mowed Obama down in a heartbeat, and they still might try.
It’s people like you, Jack, who forget she is not a loser. She earned 18 million votes. Why don't you stop with your stupid questions and always trying to put the Clintons down? Show some respect. She absolutely has earned the right to be acknowledged at the convention and with any luck the voters will get it right this time.
B. from Odom, Texas writes:
I think Sen. Obama is being exceedingly gracious to Sen. Clinton. The majority of your viewers, including me, believe she and Bill are up to no good. I hope we are wrong. I sincerely hope Mr. Obama has all his bases covered. I for one cannot wait for all this intrigue and drama to be over.
Tony from Stafford, Virginia writes:
You didn't really think that Hillary Clinton was just going to lie down and give up, did you? Silly, silly people. Have you learned nothing about the Clintons in the past 16 years?
Barack Obama is the nominee, period. There is no takeover. The media are just circulating the RNC's talking points with this controversy garbage.
Brian from Chicago writes:
If all goes well, history will remember Obama for being a pragmatic leader who successfully unified the Democratic Party. However, I will point out that Hillary Clinton's campaign has not ended. It has been suspended. Why is that? And is it possible for a campaign to un-suspend upon the unsuspecting?
Yes, and that's the way the wind blows Jack!
It seems to be turning into a Clintonfest. If she had any class at all, she wouldn't allow that to happen. This is Barack's moment and Barack's time in the spotlight.
Hillary will be speaking to the convention while Barack will be speaking to the people that matter. The voters!!
Did Obama have a choice???? I would have hoped that the party would have stuck behind Obama and given him the spotlight like he deserves.
She pulled out of the race and then told all of her supporters to back Obama. Now she has this. What happened to party unity? What happened to Hillary bowing out? OH YEAH!! I remember now...her EGO and the EGO's of everyone out there who still think she has a chance!
She is speaking on Tuesday. Obama speaks on Thursday. They didn't fill up the stadium in less than an hour for Hillary...that was done because of Obama.
I'm very disappointed that after everything she has put Obama through she just can't let go. Hope they bring a counter weight because a head that big has got to be pretty damn heavy!
Hillary ....... who?
Yes. It was to be expected. She did not give up the desire for nomination, she did not drop out of the race. Right or wrong, she wants it. Center Stage, not sidelines.
He’s either a very good politician or he’s very stupid.
If she has taken over the convention, then the republicans should win. Can the democrats ever get there election process right?
Jack, I really think she's trying to. As much as she says publically that she supports Obama 100%, her sizable ego is keeping her from selling what she's saying. I think she would love nothing better than to somehow knock Obama out and have herself be the nominee. If her minions have their way, that's exactly what they're hoping will happen.
I think Obama needs to let her save face and have a small victory at the convention. By letting her have her name on the ballot, it will allow Clinton supporters to feel like they are still powerful, and make it an easier transition to vote for Obama.
It's just more fuel to the fire. The democrats are imploding, wait till more 'baggage' comes up on Obama. Heard the latest about his birth certificate ?
Jack, you remember as well as I that conventions used to be more than coronations. Two or more candidates went in and one emerged and no one thought anything about it. Remember the 1964 Dem convention that was supposed to be a coronation for LBJ, then Bobby Kennedy got a half hour sustained standing ovation? Thing like this can still happen, not that I am comparing Hillary to Bobby.
But this time it could get really 'interesting': now that we will have a roll call (like we always used to have!), if the result is very close, Obama could lose control of the convention, and Hillary's supporters might make a break for the nomination. And who knows, even yet we might wind up with a genuinely qualified, electable nominee!!! This is the change that I want!
You media folks should want this as well – talk about reality show drama!
No Jack, Obama is a smart man. Hillary can have whatever she wants but in the end she will still have that debt to pay off and she will be a senator (if they allow her to be) for the rest of her lift and Bill will be a speaker for the rest of his life. You feel me.
No, although she refuses to take a back seat. I smell somrthing fishy.
Ron San Diego
No way, the convention still belongs to Obama. Given her historic run, Clinton does deserve to be on record for the history books. Clinton herself knows that trying to supplant Obama at this point would destroy the party's chances in November, and hopefully her supporters understand it as well. This is a concession for the sake of history, out of respect, and hopefully all the PUMAs out there will be satisfied.
The Clintons never ended their campaign.
Since they suspended her campaign, they regrouped, formulated 'plan B' and it is working out just fine for them.
Ambushing the convention was part of plan B.
But Obama is a mighty skillful campaigner and is operating with both eyes wide open and both ears flapping in the wind.
It's going to be quite a show.
Jack, she may be trying to steal the spotlight of the convention from Barack but she is going to ultimately fail. The image of Barack in front of 75,000+ will be the lasting image of the convention. Hillary will have her moment in the sun but it will be a flash in the pan in comparison to what Barack will see.
Yes Hillary has made the convention as much about Hillary as she possibly could but unfortunately her tactics has lessened the Clinton appeal and tarnished their legacy.
It's too bad really they have contributed a lot to the U.S. but ego is as ego does and two big ones just got in their way.
Hillary is just not a "supporting cast" kind of person. She demands the spotlight. It is big of Obama to share the stage with her, but he needs to be wary of the situation. I fear this might be a Trojan horse move on her part to try and steal the nomination at the convention. I wouldn't put it past her.
Yes he has. I think Obama doesn't owe Hillary anything and should not have allowed her name to be put in nomination. He won the nomination fair and square–if the roles were reversed, I'm sure Hillary would not let Obama do the same. Get over it Clintonites! Obama is the head of the Democratic Party now!!!!
Hillary can lead the convention and Obama can lead the country. I'll take that deal any day.
It certainly seems so, but I think, in some ways, it is smart of Obama to allow it. With every PUMA overreaction, with every new rumor, with every new Clinton "moment", her inability to handle her own campaign, much less the Presidency becomes more clear.
As a woman, I was proud to see a woman do well in the primaries, but enough is enough. She didn't win, the VP slot is not what she wants or probably will get, and her followers can't handle it. I didn't spend half my life since the 60's fighting for women's rights to see a bunch of spoiled brats (including Hillary) torpedo the chances of a possible win in November for the duly selected Democratic candidate!
I hate to postulate Jack, but could it be because they're sick and tired of getting shot at?
I think she has gotten a lot of publicity re: the convention. I suspect that the DNC is hoping that will give her fans something to keep them happy. And if she is really for the Democratic Party, when they put her name in for nomination, she should give all of her delegates to Obama. Let them put her name in for nomination, let the PUMA cheer. Then let HRC give it all to Obama. That would be dramatic and would help unify the party.
no.he is doing what he has consistently done throughout this campaign.he has been gracious,and inspirational in the biggest policy issue of his campaign. the eventual uniting of the states of america,with a will to make government work better ,for the american people.people who question his motives,have been lied to ,for so long,that they can no longer believe in anyone else.how sad that we have lost all 'trust' in our g'ment.i hope obama can restore some faith and integrity ,in our highest office.americans want their nation back.
He has absolutely let her take over. Obama had better brush up on his negotiation skills if this is the best he could do in dealing with an already defeated Hillary. The real question is; will it be worth it? Can Hillary deliver her supporters to Obama? Given the fact that Obama hasn't run away with the polls since she dropped out, I think not.
Jack,No ,Hillary have not taken over the convention.that what the convention is for.according to theDNC's rules and bylaws Hillary's name should be placed in nomanition at the convention.hillary do not needs obama permission to do so. Houston Texas
I do not know if he LET her do it , but I will bet the farm that this vacation Obama is taking is the last one he will take as long as the Clintons are slithering around. He leaves the mainland and almost immediately Hillary managhes to strong arm her way onto the Convention podium. Lets hope she does not try for the VP slot.
It would behoove the Clintons and their minions to remember that if they hurt the Obama campaign in any way at this convention and Obama sustains a loss in November, (whether connected or not) Hillary Clinton will be the most vilified woman on the globe and she can kiss her career as an elected official goodbye.
It sounds to me Jack, like Obama and Clinton have come up with a plan to help unify the party. I think it's a good thing that every state has a say at the convention. Obama will still be the peoples choice because Hillary has said her delecate vote will go to Obama. This is the way it's supposed to be done so I don't see the big deal. She's earned her spot at the convention and I think it will help get all demacrats back on the same page so we can put Obama in the White House.
If the situation were reversed, I wonder how the "Clintons" would feel. Ever since Barack Obama became the historic "presumed" nominee, it has been about What Does Hillary Want. That is so disrespectful. I used to really respect the Clintons. Now, I wish they would just go sit down somewhere and be quiet. They had their time. It is time for the nation to move on. I think Barack Obama is a gracious person, but they don't understand that. OBAMA 08 OH-YEAH
Since I am sure there will be a large number of Anti Hillary comments let me add one in her favor. Hillary Clinton got within a photo finish of winning the nomination and deserves to have her name put into contention to bring all of her supporters into the Democratic Family. But I am sure that Senator Clinton will do something that will please everyone by insuring that this does not go too far and then show her grace by encouraging her supporters and commited deligates to vote for Senator Obama. It would be nice if the Anti Hillary people who contribute to this blog would get a hint at what she has done for this Country and for my state.
Jack, In my opinion the Clinton's have taken over the convention. I believe that Obama has given in to them for what he believe is the sake of unity. Obama is wrong, the Clinton dynasty is ego-maniacal.
I don't like it, but it will take away the prima facie excuse of Clinton supporter not to support Obama.
"Hillary and Bill have hijacked the Denver convention, making it into a carbon copy of what it would have looked like had she won until the last possible moment. By the time Obama gets up to speak and put his stamp on the convention, Hillary will have had one prime time night all to herself. Bill will have pre-empted a second night. Hillary will have had all the nominating and seconding speeches she wants. And the roll call of the states would record, in graphic detail, how the voters of state after state rejected Obama’s candidacy in the primaries. Only then, after three and a half days of all Clinton all the time will the convention then, finally, turn to its nominee and allow him to have an hour in the sun!"....DM
Hell, she wants to take over the world! We'll see what happens though, at the convention. There are a lot of Democrats who want her to disappear forever.
Yep, and Obama should be scared, very scared. Hillary and Bill have accomplished what they set out to do, get her name on the ballot and get a roll call vote. This enables all those delegates and super delegates that got caught up in Obamamania to come back down to earth, reality, or whatever, realize their error and nominate Hillary. with Obama's weakening toward the end of the primaries, his weak performance this past week, his circque de Berlin rock star tour, and all the flip flops, they can easily justify nominating her. Just an inch, that's all they need. Game, set, match!
Jesse (State College, PA),
Couldnt have said it better.........you are spot on
PS.. those 18 million voters need to give 1 dollar at the door of the convention to pay off her debt....only then will I ever believe each one of those voters were a true Clinton supporter.....not rush-repugs
No, Barack Obama is just being an honorable gentleman. Sure hope it doesn't backfire.
No,I don't think so,yet. But if Hillary's supporters keep on screaming and they keep on saying that they are being ignored,It could end up being more about Hillary and Obama will be swept off to the side and treated with contempt.
I think Obama caved into this because it is the only way he MAY get those votes from Hillary supporters. Her supporters are all very demanding and there is still no guarantee they will support him.
It could get very ugly at the convention. I think Obama is making the mistake of his life.
Look, if she doesn't get her way she will scream and scream and stamp her feet. Not to mention Bill, who is still pouting.
This is something that has happened before without a whimper. Someone MAY put her name up for nomination and then she will request they throw their support behind Obama. Other pols have done without all the drama from anti-whomever it was at that time. Anti Hillary peeps need to stop getting their underwear in a twist and relax. Its politics as usual and nothing else.
Hillary must have her way. Obama is simply letting her have her moment for the sake of the party. Obama will have plenty of time in the spotlight when he is elected president.
Always a bride maid and never a BRIDE!! At the end of the Convention it will be all Obama, let her have her little moment in the spot light, Obama can afford to be generous to her, the end result is still the same.
of course he let her take over the convention, he needs to follow her lead to know what to do.
Jack, in the Democratic race, the stronger of the two candidates is Hillary - Obama needs more experience in Congress. In addition to his many flip-flops, Obama now further cuts his throat by allowing both Clintons to speak at the convention, together with a roll-call vote for the Presidential Candidate.
She should dominate the convention! Think about it: how many Obama supporters would defect and vote for McCain if Hillary was the candidate? Very few! In contrast, several of us Hillary supporters are still on the fence between Obama and McCain. Hillary would be a stronger candidate and would truly bring unity.
Yes, and it begs the question that if Obama can't even stand up to Hillary, how is he going to stand up to the Russians and our enemies? This must be the change he's taking about.
Jack, What do you call when someone almost wins? It's called Losing, she should get over it and move on.
No but I still think if not Hillary people are trying to force the "Dream Team" to happen. If the DREAM TEAM happens they can not be stopped .Obama will win either way because McCain has already lost due to his campain of bitterness and fear.
Round Rock, Texas
I don't think he has allowed her to take over as much as he is attempting to bring about unity in the party. When will she began to do the same?
I don't understand what it is about "you've lost" that she and her 18 million followers don't get.
If this is the only way to shut them up Jack, then so be it.
No Jack, Barack has only proved that he is the leader that will be ready to give honor to whom it is due, It is a very smart move on his part.
Is this the Obama coronation or the Clinton coup? It does seem that she is getting what she wants at this convention except one thing – the nomination. But with the way things are going with her prime speaking slot, her Hollywood produced introductory video and the opportunity to have her name placed in the roll call for nomination she might very well get everything she covets at the price of destroying the Democratic Party.
My only hope is that when the clinton backers get through cathartizing there is someone left there to clean up the stages.
Wouldn't it be neat if Hillary, after her nomination, got up, acknowledged the honor, and aked all her delegates to vote for Obama in the interest of Democratic Party? Can you say dreamer?
Lets give Obama more credit than that. Here we have the most intelligent and presidential candidate that has come along and the media is busy calling his judgement into question on just about every issue. Are you trying to even the playing field by undermining Obama in order to have something to talk about? I know it is difficult to fill the news everyday, but be fair to this remarkable candidate. Leave it to McCain and his group to try to tear their opponent down to boost their own candidate, which they are out there doing, as you well know.
Not at all. What he is doing is the only intelligent way to diffuse a potentially nasty situation. It shows a sense of maturity and non ego-driven reality based sensibility that is sorely needed.
maybe it appears so Jack, but her karma will catch up with her before she knows it...just relax
I do not know if he LET her do it , but I will bet the farm that this vacation Obama is taking is the last one he will take as long as the Clintons are slithering around. He leaves the mainland and almost immediately Hillary manages to strong arm her way onto the Convention podium. Lets hope she does not try for the VP slot or the White House.
Also Obama Powell 2008~ one can dream .Yes we can can't we.
I think it shows Obama is gracious and is able to bring the party together. My only hope is the Clintons and their surrogates follow in line and help Obama. Not just another gotcha! If so I will never ever vote for her ever. Again its due to her actions and take no responsiblity behavior.
Jack, I think Obama is giving her the illusion that she's a contender by allowing her to place her name in nomination. The problem is how will her supporters behave when she loses as some commentators on CNN have already forecast. She is being given enough rope to hang herself in the sense that she will be tainted with loser and diminish her future eligibility to be a strong candidate if she chooses to run again.
Jack, why do you keep making Clinton an issue? She lost the race but she is still a Democrat, of course she should be a part of the convention, and a big part to. This is not the Obama Convention, its the Democratic convention.
No, Hillary hasn't taken over the convention! She would like to! Lord knows, she and her husband would like to circumvent the proceedings enough to somehow expunge the Obama election so as to become THE candidate but that won't happen because the Obama faction will not allow this to happen! Hillary can have her say, but this election is sewn op!
It ceases to amaze me that people stand up and cheer that a black man might, MIGHT become president, and for the first time in history has become the PRESUMPTIVE nominee. Yet because the first woman to get just as close, yes just as close, her historical accomplishment is dismissed just because her last name is Clinton. This is why there is such a divide in the Democratic party Jack, and you aren't helping mend it.
Is that a joke?
Obama is smarter than many give him credit.
He is well aware letting the Clintons play roles in the convention will sour more and more people against them as they will be seen as egotists who don't know enough to let go.
If the truth were known Obama has likely just sunk her once and for all and never said a word to do it.
I hope and pray all will go well at the convention. It is a wait and see, because I wouldn't trust either of the Clintons as far as I could throw them. I wouldn't be surprised if they both have something up their sleeves besides arms.
She will not dominate the convention, she will dominate Tuesday night. Bubba will attack the Bush/McCain gang on Wednesday, then they will both be cheerleaders the rest of the way. They are, after all, just the opening act. Sounds like a good way to keep ratings up throughout the convention. Good luck to the Republicans trying to match the enthusiasm. Even Mccain's acceptance speech promises to be a snoozer.
. No, Obama is behaving like a true gentleman and an honorable winner. Giving her time to speak to her supporters and bring them into the process is smart ,and it's a winning startegy.
I don't think Hillary Clinton is taking over, although it's not for lack of trying. She's still desperate for a last-minute upset. I think it's more a case of Barack Obama being both a diplomat and a gentleman. Let's just hope we'll be spared seeing her dragged forcibly from the room when it's all over.
I think it is a good thing she will be called at the convention. We will have a woman and a African American called to be president, which is and should be historic. Maybe she steals a bit of his thunder, but he shows class. In the end, he gets the real prize–the presidency.
If Obama is smart he will let Hillary Clinton take over the convention. He needs everyone of the 18,000,000 Clinton supporters come November. Given that both candidates are going into the convention with almost the same amount of primary voters, it makes it that much more important that Obama comes away from the convention with all 36,000,000 voters supporting him.
I disagree that it makes Obama look weak...I think it makes him look like the conciliator he is so desperately trying to be. And Obama and the DNC have acted correctly by following the rules of the DNC, and which were created long before the Clintons were even born. Whether Hillary encourages her delegates or not to support Obama, she has lost an enormous amount of credibility with all this jockeying around to upstage him.
Whatever happened to allowing someone to do all they can to achieve their dream, and since when did it become wrong? We all can speculate all the way through but no one really knows how things will turn out and the way it turns out may not be clear for some time, if ever.
We'll just see. Remember, a super-delegate can change their vote!
I think it would be hilarious if this whole time that Clinton had vanshied, she'd been secret persuading the super-delegates to vote for her, while outwardly supporting Obama.
No, Obama is just showing that he really is a class act. Allowing her to speak to her supporters and see her name in nomination is just what the party needs for unity, and just what the rest of America needs to see.
Definitely Jack. What is most worrisome about Obama’s concession to Hillary to be the big fish in the pond at the convention is that he comes across as a weak negotiator. If he can’t handle Hillary’s big ego and tell her to go pack sand, how can we expect him to handle the monstrous egos of foreign leaders? Obama needs to step his game up!
I guess it is the price to pay for party unity. Frankly, I think the whole thing is sickening. She and her supporters should face the facts and start concentrating on the future and not the past.
Don't let Obama fool you, He is a smart man and he is in control. He beat the first family of the democratic party in the primary and he has their number now.
I can understand that Senator Obama wants to avoid drama at the convention but the Clintons have been given too much space. He won the nomination not Hilary Clinton. Many think party unity will be achieved by allowing Hillary's name to stand for nomination. I'm not convinced of this. Nor do I believe that this will result in her sme of her supporters deciding to vote for Senator Obama. These are a bunch of angy women who will not vote for him no matter what he does. Hopefully, he doesn't give her the VP prize as well. In the final analysis, Bill and Hillary are not to be trusted!
Jack, calm down.
Hillary and Bill Clinton have both endorsed Barack Obama.
Hillary and Bill are both casting their superdelegate votes for Barack Obama.
Hillary and Bill have both asked Americans to vote for Barack Obama.
Hillary, Bill and Barack are well-positioned to bring needed change to this great nation.
The convention will be quite a grand celebration. Stay tuned.
If Obama announces he VP at the convention, which I hope he does, would be the event changer.
Let's wait and see!.
To a large extent he has. The real question is whether or not it was a wise decision to trust the Clintons. If they strongly support Obama with rousing speeches they will do well by the Democratic Party and the upcoming elections. It will be a win win situation.
If pettiness prevails, they can kiss this election and Hillary's chance at 2012 goodbye. Half hearted endorsements hurt them as much as they do Obama.
Hillary is setting back women for elections to come. During a contest you have a winner and one or more losers. Obama has won and she has lost. There is no second place prize.
If they bought/blackmailed votes and find a way to steal this nomination from Obama I will be royally pissed off. If our choice becomes Hillary or McCain well I'm not sure I want to be an American anymore. They are both bought and paid for.
Jack, he's just going along so she'll shut up and they can get things done and over with, then move on.
Who really cares what the Clintons do.
Think of it as pacifying a child. which is what both Clintons are.
Someone had to be the grown-up here.
Looks to me that Obama called their bluff. It is not a matter of the
Clintons being in the soptlight but a showing of confidence from Obama.
Oh yes Jack.....Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!
This is a bit much, but the facts will not be know until her time behind the podium and after the roll call. If only the Clintons had been as gracious to Obama as he has been all along to her.
It's people like you Jack that forget she is not a loser. She earned 18 million votes. Yet you put her into a category of "also ran". She should be treated with the respect she has earned from the American People.
It's clear that Hillary 2012 begins in Denver. The only way Obama can win now is to put Hillary on the ticket. The old saying keep your friends close but your enemies closer applies. John McCain is not Barack Obama's biggest enemy.
Hillary is determined to 'Destroy' Senator Obama. At this point, Obama should tell Hillary...GOOD BY.
One can definitely understand why Hillary WILL NOT be VP.
Obama is being smart by inviting Hillary & Bill to speak. If he can't be a uniter in his own party, how can independents be swayed into thinking this guy will have a chance at being a bi-partisan uniter?
Jack, of course you realize that had the shoe been on the other foot and Obama came in a very close second, the Clintons would have no doubt bent over backwards to be very accommodating to him. Oh by the way, i have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn if you're interested.
She has! Thank God she could do it too. Now lets just get her nominated and get a true DEMOCRAT back in the White House.
Hillary 08 or McCain 08
She hasn't taken over the convention Jack but has negotiated time for the Clinton's swan song. They will be the passing the baton to Barack Obama. His speach in front of 75000 will be quite a sight.
I actually kind of suspect that there is an agreement already in place. There will be another vote of all the delegates at the election. Michigan and Florida will get their full delegations. Hillary will win by a very slim margin, only 50 delegates or so, and Obama will be immediately tapped as her VP. I think this is why Obama has been relatively out of sight this week, and why Clinton has been firing things back up. It will anger a lot of Obama supporters, myself included, but we'll vote anyway to get Obama in as VP and to keep McCain out. It will also greatly inconvenience the Republicans. They've been attacking Obama for months now, they won't be able to redirect their ire in the two months left before the election.
I won't like it, but I'll marginally tolerate it. It will negate the arguments of "celebrity" and "inexperience" anyway.
Still pulling the strings of the weak-minded Jack? You must get off on this stuff. Anyone with any brains, which leaves out the Obamabots, realize that if people like you stop putting this junk out there, all of the bad feelings on both sides would magically disappear. This blog ought to called Jerk Cafferty's File.
Hilary does not understand that she lost the election due to her
lies and disorganization etc. not because she is a woman. I am a
woman and I am not proud of her.
At the convention I see the Clinton act as a "Last Hurray" and I don't mind if I never hear about either one again.
She's getting out of hand and she needs to check her ego at the door.
Like i said before I voted for her but lets be adult about this.
"O" will pick Evan Bayh, a big former Clinton supporter, for VP. A lot of the people in KY,IN, IL, MI and Ohio who like Clinton, like Evan Bayh. The others who don't fail in line, will be about their own agenda, not that of the party. O's ego isn't worried about H. She'll be contained, especially if she wants a future.
He really doesn't have a choice considering that some of her supporters still can't accept the fact he is and will be the Democratic nominee in 2008. I too supported Hillary Clinton until I realized she will not be Mccain's opponent in the run for the White House. Oh, and I'm a Democrat.
Well....if Hillary can take the convention away from Obama, what does that say about the strength of Obama. How can a man who is basically being annointed supposed to rule the country, and be the leader of the free world, when he can't even control his own convention? Can we say, naive, inexperienced, weak.
Countries like Russia, Iran, N.Korea, Syria, etc are just chomping at the bit and praying we'll elect Obama. They would just love to "talk" with him while the build up their military capabilities and regional influence.
As much as Bill may be seething, they KNOW we have to win in Nov.
No, Obama is doing as well as his decision-makers dictate.
Obama, be yourself!
It is just too much. If she lets this thing get out of hand, she better be happy she has a seat in the Senate. Obama is showing a lot of class in the decisions he is making and it proves that a "young, un-experienced person" sometimes has better judgment. The Clintons have a real problem with lack of judgment. Too bad someone hasn't told them to go count their money and fade from the scene.
Come on Jack, you know this is the standard process. She is not doing anything out of the ordinary. The networks are really painting her as this really vindictive person. Hillary is not stupid. Even though I did not vote for her, I do like her, but in my heart of hearts, I believe she will bring unity at the convention. So those haters out there need to stop the rumors.
Obama continues to appear magnanimous and Hillary continues to appear as someone who doesn't know how to lose.
Can't imagine Obama demanding what the Clintons are demanding and getting away with it.
This is a win for Obama though. Takes the steam out of all the nut cases who were planning to march and demonstrate. She is allowed to speak and put her name in nomination which, by the way, will show how much her delegation strength has dissolved. Then it will be over and we can FINALLY say goodbye to the Clintons!!
No, Senator Clinton has not taken over the Democratic Convention. Frankly, I think Senator Obama is shrewd to let the Clintons be a part of this process. Senator Obama needs Hillary's supporters to win the election in November; he doesn't need Vladamir Putin's supporters to win.
75,000+ people say no.
Hillary Clinton is toast, and so is Bills legacy. They should enjoy their final "15 minutes of fame" at the convention. If Obama loses this election it will be because of the Clintons, and everyone will know it. If he wins, on January 21st 2009 he will put the three of them on a raft and set them adrift at sea. I voted for Bill twice for president and for Hillary twice for Senator. It's the most embarrassing thing I have done in my life. Those of you who voted for Bush know how I feel.
Hillary deserves to be acknowledged for her historic candidacy. I think this will be seen much more broadly in the light of history. Hillary has opened the door wide for all women. She came very close to the nomination, winning all the swing states, and Obama is doing the right thing by allowing her to be acknowledged, and her supporters to be heard. Hillary deserves a speaking role at the convention alot more than Michele Obama does.
If the Democrats hadn't messed up their delegate rigging in Florida and Michigan , Obama's coronation would have gone off without a hitch. Hillary deserves the nomination.
Obama doesn't lose anything with this. He will still be the nominee, and he will have a happier, more unified Democratic party. He's trying to send a message that the Clintons are dear friends. You treat your friends differently that you treat Putin.
Just think what people would say if he hadn't done this. He's "arrogant, sexist, disrespectful, etc."
Not only the convention but, perhaps, the nomination
Jack, let her throw her last temper tantrum. It'll be over soon and she'll be old news!
I don't think Hillary has taken over. As the most recent Democratic president, Bill was likely to speak any way, and given that it was a close race it is not beyond reason for Hillary to speak as well.
It's more in the way that it's occurred. The PUMA's seem to be hell bent on making Hillary president and have been getting coverage because, of course, it will get ratings and drive the blogs!
Luckily Obama doesn't worry about doing things because of how they'll be perceived. We've had enough of that the past 7 years.
His goal is to bring Democrats together at the convention and he seems to be accomplishing it beautifully.
How refreshing it will be to have a President who's REALLY a "uniter not a divider"!
i really don't get the media sometimes Jack. All i have heard is the convention is supposed to be all about Obama, but does he really need that much more of the spotlight? i mean 200 00 people in Berlin, non-stop coverage on news channels and full blown exposure on the internet have not helped in polls that are reflecting very small advantages for Obama. Maybe he can afford to give up some time in the spotlight to the first woman to ever to get 18 million votes in the primaries.
I think the Obama Campaign is way to smart for these Clinton's. First he beat them at their own game and now he is positioning his campaign and going to expose the Clinton's once and for all for who they really are. They will never be able to reclaim what was once theirs because they continue to make selfish and careless missteps....
I simply don't understand why there is so much vitriol against Hillary Clinton. She has been loyal to the Democratic principles of justice, equal opportunity, fair trade, children's rights, education, etc. Why do so many people attempt to demonize her? I even heard someone say that, if she is the VP choice, all the adultery "stuff" about Edwards will reflect on her somehow. Excuse me? but I'm sure she wasn't the one who committed adultery!
She had as much right to run for the position that she fell so strongly about as Sen. Obama did and a great deal of support, yet no one was demanding that he should surrender. Since her campaign was suspended, she has consistently said she will work hard for Sen. Obama's campaign and I'm sure she will. Yet, the accusations that she will not work for his election continue. It's ridiculous and completely baseless accusations!
Jack: I'm surprised at your analysis. The role call and the Clintons will raise the ratings of the convention and bring some drama. That's why it's being done. Otherwise who would watch? I'm sure no one will be watching the GOP convention.
Two words Jack...
The Clintons are the most popular democrats in the world (regardless of what grandpa says) and the democratic party needs them to be happy, and in the spotlight.
The Dems need Hillary and Bill to use all of their good qualities to make sure that their party wins the election. The Clintons need this moment and will not blow it – their careers depend on it.
So, again, Obama is a smart man taking the high road, he will let them and encourage them to shine, because he knows he and his party needs them and their supporters. A pumped up Dem party with all cylinders running at full steam will be unbeatable – and this is the most logical way to achieve that.
I hope that Hillary wins in the rollcall vote. I do not believe that Obama would make a good President and I am planning on voting for McCain. I do not vote "Party" but for who I think will make the best President. My choice in order is Hillary, McCain, Obama
Can the Super Delegates make Hillary the nominee?
Barack's political tombstone will read: " He was such a nice guy".
Jack in every animal kingdom type on the planet including Politicians, the young always let the oldest animals eat first. It was the way they were bred. The democrat convention is nothing unusual. Once the old and decrepit have feasted then the young hunters feast on all the rest of the bounty. Giving a few scraps to the old is just a respectful gesture.
We're letting Hillary run all over the convention to prevent embarassing situations caused by her supporters? What about the embarassing situation that is the fueding still obvious in our Democratic Party? This is just opening old wounds that the Republicans will happily pour salt in. Yes I think she's taken over and something should have been done to stop it!
Hillary is still the best, Obama did not win, Opraha won for Obama. Obama needs to go back to the Senate for more practice, he is not ready to be President at this time.
Yes, Barack has let the Clintons take over convention, it is very disappointing. What a family of Whiners.
I feel like this is becoming a bad episode of the "Sopranos".
Bill and Hillary combined equals Tony Soprano. And Obama is Christopher. We all know what happened to Christopher during that car ride with Tony.
I think it's a very generous move on Obama's part to be so gracious to Darkside, I wouldn't do it, but it's Obama's show. Don't underestimate the powers of the force.
Maybe this is a way to get Hilary as a de facto VP spot, nominated by acclamation.
The Clintons are nothing without being in the news. That is their
downfall. They do nothing for America or the American people,
just want their own public image to be idolized. I hope this nomination
BS once and for all tells them, we are sick and tired of them!
Exactly Jack, How can a politician who forms all his policies based on the particular electorate that he is dealing with at that moment ever hope to stand a chance at being THE LEADER of the free-world?
Even Senator Clinton would have been a better president then Senator Obama!
Unfortunately so. However, he seems to be a decent, gracious guy, and it's true what they say – nice guys often just get used.
Hillary, on the other hand, is just a plain, sore loser. Her ego can't stand to see anyone else win, but it shows her to be the shrill nobody that she really is. Mr Dean ought to send her out on her backside, sharpish!
Hillary – get over it!! Suck it up!! You lost!!
The general election is soo razer close.. Obama must secure his base. The Clintons represent a part of the party that he must have aligned. If he doesnt appease her supporters, the chance some of them will sit it out, or vote for her good friend McCain is very very high.
Obama has been sliding in the national Electoral Vote Polls in the last 2 weeks and his candidacy might be still born if he doesnt get the party united.
Unfortunately, they have backed some Democrates into a corner...if Obama runs I will definately vote Republican for the first time in my life!
Regarding the upcoming Clinton Revanche Convention:
The Democrats usually find a way to shoot themselves in the foot, and this is as good a way as any. Just another way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
I am resigned to 8 years of McCain/Romney, or maybe 7 years of Romney, since McCain is probably sicker than he looks, and he looks more than a bit crinkled around the edges.
My main regret is that we can kiss the Supreme Court good-bye, and say hello to something straight out of the Spanish Inquisiton.
Thank you, Hillary.
Nancy in Salt Lake City
I'm confused, Jack.
Barack Obama, and by extension his supporters, is a gracious human being who understands that Hillary supporters represented more votes than any other candidate's, of either party.
Why do you belittle him for giving them a voice? Would you make a choice like this without honoring to history the marvelous race you had to run to get there, in and of itself an historic one?
It just shows what the Clintons are all about – the Clintons. As long as they are in the spotlight, then all is well.
I think the real question should be, when will Hillary accept her loss graciously? She is a very poor loser.
We all know the dirty little secret that Obama can't win... Nominate Hillary!
Ther's a difference between not getting what you want and being ignored. It's really too bad the Clinton supporters can't wrap their heads around it. What they need to understand is that the act of voting IS being heard. You have no right to have your candidate nominated just because it was a close race. If this turns into a Clinton coup, you can bet your bippy that Clinton will lose in November. Good for the goose is good for the gander.
When will she leave. She's the worst disaster to ever hit the Demcratic Party. THE PARTY told her NO, you are not the winner, the party does not choose you, sit down and shut up. If Obama can't tell her the same, I may be forced to vote for McCain because, even though I don't like him, he's not a wuss.
When you look at the list of people speaking throughoit the convention, the Clintons don't have a great role. She made a historic run for women and it should be part of political history. It will also create drama for a huge audience which in the end will help Obama!!
Obama beat the Clinton machine. She is not going to do anything wrong in the event that Obama loses as it will destroy her chances in 2012 and could lead to a third party made up of young voters who will not forgive her but have become very politically astute.
It is the press and bloogs like this that give Hillary supporters a way bigger plat form than their numbers deserve. No one has researched the RNC's hand in all of this.
I think this is the biggest slap in the face. Why is she still here?
What are conventions for but to showcase the various candidates. Seems you modern media types just don't get it.
Jack, I believe this is the start of one of the most devious political shakeups of all time. By not "dropping out" of the race, Hillary Clinton retains her delegates. All she needs is enough super delegates to beat Obama for the nomination. I believe that this is all an orchestrated plan to steal the nomination. Letting Obama in the last two months battle McCain and hope that he ends up looking worse for wear.
I wouldn't put it past them...
More people voted for Barack Obama than Hillary Clinton – end of story. If Hillary got 18 million votes, then Barack got at the very least 18 million and 1. Let her name be put forth, let her bow out graciously, and let's move on to win this election. We all know that if Obama loses this election, the Clintons will be blamed. She can run for president again, but she'll have no chance. We will make the Clintons pay.
This appears to be the Obama way of negotiating.....give aways are the name of the game for Obama. Becasue he is all about appeasement, the Clintons are taking over the Democrat Convention.
Just wait until he starts negotiating with Russia, Iran, and Pakistan.
This is not just an issue for the upcoming convention, it is very indicitive of the way Democrats in general behave. The constant whining until you get what you want even though you do not deserve it or its not the right thing to do. This is the same reason that the Democrat controlled Congress has not accoplished anything to help this country since taking control 2 years ago. They are so affraid of hurting the far left's feelings that they can't commit to any unified stance.
What's the big deal? All primary candidates have been put in nomination for decades Besides, he nomination will be as rigged as the primaries – the outcome is as predetermined.
How can Obama be president if he can not even stand up to the Clintons!!!
Jack, If its the rules why are you asking, Stirring the pot again? She has every right and you know it.
Obama has bent over backwards to give some spotlight to the Clintons, and the Clintonites, who obviously have very little grace.
At the end of the day, however, after Barack gives his speech in front of 75,000, what the Clintons do and say will be secondary, because Barack will be the nominee!
Hillary IS A FORCE whether you want her to be or not.
Yes, she has.
And I don't mind it one bit. She was the first Democrat I would have voted for in a very, very long time.
Obama, as usual ready to compromise he cannot make a simple decision such as telling her to take a hike.... what will happen when he has to make decisions for us... should he be elected president?
As a side note Jack, as far as "If he can’t stand up to Hillary, how’s he going to fare against Vladimir Putin?" is concerned he'll do fine. Being the gentleman that he is, Vladimir Putin isn't an American female in Obama's political party, he's a Russian male and will be dealt with accordingly.
It is disgusting but does he have a choice? With the PUMA idiots and other Clinotn supporters demanding that the Clinton's be treated like royalty or they will sabotage Obama's campaign. They clearly do not want to let go of their control over theh Democratic party and are plotting for 2012 if McCain wins. Maureen Dowd and Bob Hebert are right the Clinton's have no class and integrity.
Yes he has and I have already written on his web site just how angry I am at him for giving into all this since I have been his 68yr old white woman supporter from the very start! I am disgusted and was looking forward to the convention but not anymore! I just can't stomach anymore of the Clinton's and their bag of tricks! Thanks Jack for getting this one right and out in the open!
All you need is 18 million tubs of ice cream
and 18 million re-runs of 'Friends', and the convention
will be saved.
Wouldn't you just like to know what the Clintons have on Obama?
Why on earth should there have to be "negotiations" for a fair and open election? Oh wait, I just remembered the entire brokered primary season....
Obama is making a very good PR move by agreeing that Hillary's name can be on the ballot. By doing this, he is being the bigger person and giving her respect (even though she does not deserve any respect due to her campaign tactics IMO.. she is not an honorable person in my eyes).
By him allowing her to speak, he is giving her the chance to truly back him by her own free will. He's giving her a chance to wipe her dust off, save face, and fully support Obama like she said she is doing. If she chooses to show her true colors and try to steal the nomination, it will only hurt her and will destroy any future chance at the White House.
It takes a lot of strength and confidence to do what Obama is doing. I think this makes him look even stronger. It is a testament to his character and nobility.
It's just another example of Hillary's poor leadership, poor sportsmanship, and poor decision making.
Rather than help her party's nominee win the Presidency, she'd rather have a love fest for herself. She and Obama were essentially the same on all key issues, and all the things she wants for the America she so "dearly loves" will be implemented if Obama wins. If she really did care about America instead of herself, she'd stop baiting her contingent and get them to back Obama. He's a lot better for America than four more years of Republican mismanagement.
I think it's hilarious how many people say that Hillary is stealing the "spotlight" from Obama; and it is now his time to "shine." For God's sake folks, all we've heard about in the media since the race began is Obama, Obama, Obama...I think Hillary deserves a little time where she isn't scrutinized by everyone. And, just for the record, I don't care for either presidential candidate.
Yes Jack , but is that a problem. She has 15 or more years of experience over him and he has done nothing so far but change his position on many issues and back down from the important ones.
All this Obama vs. Hillary talk is just more ammo for the media. Sounds like Obama just likes to keep the peace... I like that in a president.
With all of the recent hype between both "Democratic parties," I agree with you when you say Obama caved. However, I feel he had to in order to prevent at least tighten the gap between the two. In order to get the democratic votes to win the election, Obama needs Clinton supporters. I have hope that this will help.
Absolutely not Jack. Barack understands that there is some tension in the part since arguable the same number of people voted for each candidate. No one is going to forget that Barack Obama is the presuptive nominee because he'll be the one running for president when it's over.
I think Sen. Obama is being exceedingly gracious to Sen. Clinton. The majority of your viewers, including me, believe she & Bill are up to no good, I hope we are wrong. I sincerely hope Mr. Obama has all his bases covered. I for one cannot wait for all this entrigue and drama to be over.
If all goes well, history will remember Obama for being a pragmatic leader who sucessfully unified the Democratic party.
However, I will point out that Hillary Clinton's campaign has not ended. It has been suspended. Why is that? And is it possible for a campaign to un-suspend upon the unsuspecting?
Not at all, Jack. Obama is demonstrating a real strength by allowing Hillary to have her moment. He does not fear her because he is the winner. and she is an also ran.
I think he has to a little...and if Hillary is to have a political future she can't come across as bitter otherwise it'll turn off the voters the next time she runs.
Obama is trying to bring the party together. The Clintons are trying to promote themselves. Let's hope the Democratic Party can survive the Clintons.
Jack, Obama didn't have a choice. She finished a close second. Do we just put names in for nomination when they are a long distant second place finisher? No. Who said this was done deal anyway? Obama did not win the nomination outright. Stayed tuned, this could a wild and crazy Democratic convention.
The Clintons love to be the center of attention. But sharing the limelight with the Party's nominee is a bit much. I guess the Clintons, no matter how you dress the, ain't got no class. Bill and Hill – – this couple is something else!
Those who contend that Obama has "caved" or is being let by the nose by the Clintons are missing the point. Long after Denver has come and gone, it will be Obama in the oval office. As one of his first public acts as the nominee, he will show compassion, class and cleverness (in swaying Clinton women to his side). Dont confuse diplomacy for weakness
No, he hasn't let her take over, he's allowing her to take part. It displays extreme graciousness on his part and a lack of it on hers. I don't buy the comparison to how Obama might negotiate with foreign powers if he were President — he isn't the President (yet) and that's precisely why he's cooperating now with the egotistical Clintons.
Carol, Calif. Central Coast
If Obama had the nomination in the bag and could actually win the election in November, he wouldn't need any of Hillary Clinton's help. It's clear he DOES need her help to win, which makes me wonder why he's even the nominee?
That's it for me. No more internet or T.V. When Hillary is no longer on any radar screen then someone fire a green flare.
Well, it's not that big of a surprise, really. The Clintons got an awful lot of votes for Hillary – and she definitely deserves to be recognized for her achievement. I don't necessarily think this is turning out to be a blowout for her – the media is certainly paying a lot more attention to who Obama's veep pick is going to be, and my fellow Obamamaniacs are going to get our chance when he delivers his acceptance speech.
She deserves what she's being given – she did show that there is nothing to prevent a woman from becoming president (except, possibly, having a campaign that isn't leakier than a roof made of paper). She might be taking it to a bit of an extreme, but America needs to remember that this isn't just Obama's moment – it's everyones moment.
If Obama can't stand up against Clinton, does this mean he will be hiding in the oval office if things get tough!!! What a loser.
Let's hope the voters have their brain cells working and vote for McCain.
I have always loved Hilary.. infact my desire was to see both Barack and Hilary on one ticket, did not matter how was president or vice, but buy the time Bill was through I knew it was close to impossable as she allowed Bill in his desperate attempt to win the party's nomination to become like a slavage, now there is really no way the two of them could be running on the same ticket.. As for what they are doing now, it makes me nervious and I really prayer that they both are wise and not selfish in there use of the time given to both them at the convention. Barack really has no choice and is actually trusting the Clintons with his future as president by giving them some of the spot light.
I hope so. She is the only one with the experience and knowledge to do so.
Maybe Obama is taking one for the team. He a team player. Know one could ever say that he didn't tried to keep the partly united. Remember Barack Obama is for the people this is what he all about , Change!
I guess it's Hillary running for president and not Barack Obama.
It seems that Barack and Hillary have worked out a "winning strategy" – in spite of all the perceived animosity portrayed by the pundits and media. Hillary's invaluable presence in his administration as his VP is first and formost in his mind. With all of the "prime time" speakers appearing in this "prime time production", on the 25th, "The Best Presidential Team of Our Time" will set the stage for an overwhelming victory for the Democratic Party in November.
Is Hillary Clinton speaking at a football stadium before 75,000 people on Thursday night?
There's your answer!
I truly respect Barack Obama. I think he's being gracious to Hillary, if the tables were turned, I do not think she would do the same. Hillary thinks that "not giving in" shows strength. I don't think I would have enjoyed playing with Hillary on the playground, she needs to learn to say "Uncle." Stubbord and unwielding is more suited to her personality.
Clinton supporters are still in the middle stages of grief, having not quite yet reached the "acceptance" that she's irrevocably lost the nom. They need to feel heard, again, despite the fact that they've already cast their votes and came up short. It's a ludicrous, absurd whining spree that we'll never hear the end of until Obama is crowned nominee.
Unfortunately, yes Jack. This is suppose to be a time of unity for the Democrats heading into the general election. All Hillary Clinton is doing is just showing us that she is a sore loser.
Jack, Hilary can try all she wants, but she will never outshadow Sen. Barack Obama. In my opinion, she is making a fool of herself.
I think this is fine now. HIllary is no longer a threat to him, and it could help bring some of her voters reluctantly to his side. Still, there will remain many bitter people who will vote McCain. I truly hope this does not come back to bite Senator Obama in the butt! I agree with Candy Crowley; people will remember what Senator Obama in his speech. So, are the Clintons taking over? Hmmm, only if Sen Obama lets them...
Jack, I think it is about time the Oval Office has Negotiator with the interest of the Country in heart and mind, instead of a "Decider" who has his personal interest guiding him – I think Obama is showing that he knows when to dance and when to clear the floor – over 36 MILLION voters split their votes between Hilliary and Barack – leaving 18 million needing their voices heard – I believe the intelligence of these two people to work out this problem will result in a positive outcome and a unititing of voices that will drowned out the McBush machine.
Exactly how it should have been from the start
Maybe he has. Maybe he has not. But at the end of the day though, Barack Obama will become the next President of the United State and she wil not. No amount of "revenge" will have any affect on that.
Maybe Obama is just sitting back and letting the Clintons make fools of themselves rather than trying to push back. They seem to be doing a pretty good job so far...
I hope it does not happen. Justifying Clinton will be impossible after what we have seen in Primary “Shame on you Obama”.
It seems now that Obama will not be choosing Hillary as his Veep. Thank goodness! Then maybe, just maybe, the Clinton's will mercifully leave the American people alone and move on into their retirement.
How do you know whether she gives the nomination to Obama or maybe keeps it herself ???
Oh the Clinton's didn't we accommodate them enough during their time why they wanted it all for them self now. It is Obams time they should sideline and have his time if they have any class at all.
This is a no-win situation for Obama. If he doesn't graciously accept her proposal, he'll be condemned as sexist, insensitive and ignorant of the historical precedent. If the Clintons get their way, he'll be condemned as weak. This is also a no-win situation for Clinton. She could divide the democrats and lose any chance of a future or she could make a play at the Convention and lose. Linda in NJ
I hope so.
well, we have a choice now... a wimp or warrior...looks like hillary is the one with the cajones...
She struggled to mange her campaign, finances and marriage... Let her have this as an opportunity to go away quietly and fix those problems...
Go Hillary! You rock!
With 177 comments so far, I'd say you have the Obama camp on your side! The other side believes that Hillary has the best chance against McCain and if the Democrats want to win....she should be the nominee. She should have been the winner in the first place.
I think it's great that Hillary is speaking. She's the true winner. She can stand up to Vladimir Putin.
Yes, and rightfully so. It won't make a difference anyhow because he is not going to beat McCain. Hillary was not the loser -- the nomination was GIVEN to Barack.
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