FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:
Senator Hillary Clinton is reportedly trying to muscle her way onto the ticket as Barack Obama's vice presidential candidate.
Politico reports a senior Obama adviser says that some Clinton supporters are "pushing real, real hard to get her on the ticket." According to Time Magazine, one of those supporters is her husband, former president Bill Clinton, who apparently thinks his wife has earned a place on Obama's ticket.
Clinton's wins in key states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and West Virginia – along with her support from women and white working-class voters – are all strong arguments why Obama should include her.
However, the unnamed Obama adviser suggests Clinton would "take away" from the ticket, citing her "baggage" and the fact that a majority of voters think she's "dishonest." It would also detract from Obama's message of "change," and a shift away from politics as usual.
This aide believes Obama will wind up attracting a lot of Democratic women who have been voting for Clinton, once they have the choice between Obama and McCain. Also, this person claims that even though Clinton attracts some white voters Obama hasn't been getting "some of them will never vote for Obama anyway."
But not everyone agrees that Hillary Clinton would weigh down the ticket. One former congressman and associate of the Clintons says putting Hillary on the ticket makes sense. He says the race is "as close to a tie" as anything in recent memory and uniting the two candidates would merge the party.
Here’s my question to you: Can Hillary Clinton muscle her way into the V.P. slot?
Interested to know which ones made it on air?
In the end, I don't think Hillary Clinton's being on or off the ticket will be the deciding factor in November. Voters will choose Obama or McCain based on how they feel about those two men, not the VP candidate. I think Clinton would like very much for Democrats to believe she must be on the ticket for Obama to win. It's just another desperate ploy by Hillary and Bill to get back into the White House. Heaven help Obama if she does.
Jenny from Rome, Georgia writes:
Jack, Judging from the decisions he has made so far in this campaign, Obama is not that stupid. He seems to have surrounded himself with an excellent team and Hillary is not a team player.
No! But Barack Obama is stupid if he feels he can win this election on his own without the help of Hillary Clinton. The Democratic Party is split down the middle… Obama needs to stop seeing Clinton as his opposition and see her as a benefit. If the Democrats want to ensure that they take back the presidency, it's going to take a combined ticket regardless of who is the presidential nominee.
She is setting up a two-pronged victim stance. First, the Gore (read Clinton) 2000 election where he/she lost to the Bad Bush (read Obama). The second: where she can play the race card again by being the victim of the scary, powerful, moneyed black man against the underdog female. She is a hopeless piece of baggage - totally lacking in ethics.
Jan from Boca Raton, Florida writes:
Let’s hope so. Somebody has to save this country.
I hope not. As a white, middle class woman, registered Republican and wife of a navy man, I am rooting and supporting for Sen. Obama because he is running on a change campaign. If he folds and puts Sen. Clinton on the ticket as VP then I will not vote for him… Sen. Clinton is a typical politician… She is not one of us.
I can easily see Hillary muscling her way into a Vice Presidential spot.
She'll arm wrestle McCain and win two out of three for a McCain-Clinton ticket.
Unfortunately, she probably will be Obama's running mate.
What's more, she will probably get him to help pay off her debt.
And he'll do it, just to shut her up!
She's got millions of votes so I don't think she needs to "muscle" her way in – some might even say she's already earned it. Hillary Clinton has run a campaign full of lies, slander and pandering. She certainly doesn't deserve a spot in Barack Obama's cabinet.
Sure she can. I agree with the columnist who wrote weeks ago that the true test of Obama's toughness is not whether he can stare down radical Islamic foreign leaders, but whether he can find the fortitude to stare down Hillary Clinton, given her emergence during this primary as a proudly self-styled she-monster ready and willing to devour anyone who gets in her way. She's pretty scary. Mel from Tampa
No. She has already imposed too many hurtful divisions. The latest decision to put herself ahead of the good of the party doesn't help change the perception of her as being out of touch with reality. Obama can to much better with either Richardson for his appeal as an international negotiator or Edwards on his stance aganist poverty.
Not a Snowballs chance in hell. If Obama picks Clinton for VP he better start looking for another job.
Hillary Clinton should be on top of the ticket. I think, however, that there has been an agreement between Obama and John Edwards that his endorsement is assurance that he will be the Vice Presidential pick.
Not only can she but she should be on the ticket to unite the party and the people. I think it would almost guarantee Obama the presidency and worth putting up with the Clintons. A choice of being president with Hillary or not being president at all??
No, Jack, she can't. Barack Obama has bucked the most powerful machine in the democratic party to bring us his message of Change. That's really an impressive show of strength. It just doesn't make sense to bring back "Same-old"?
Of course she can! Obama might hate the notion of bringing her along because the Clinton name is old and contrary to his 'Change' theme, but all indications from the swing states and big states are that she is needed to win.
Wildwood Crest, NJ
Yes she could, if she wasn't the political equivalent of the "propeller guy*" from the end of the movie "Titanic." She doesn't just want to go down with the ship, she has to be flamboyantly stupid about it, too!
*You remember, Jack, the guy who fell off the top of the ship and clanged off the propeller just before the ship went down.
I'm sure she will try but I hope she doesn't succeed. Probably some of her militant feminist supporters are pushing for it. Barack should be able to choose someone he is more comfortable working with. No Hillary!
Jack don't underestimate the Clinton political machine. She certainly is capable of muscling her way into the VP position, but she could still steal the nomination. The Clinton brand has clout, money, and history; everything they need to pull off a Republican-like theft of the nomination.
I can't imagine why she would want it. He is unelectable regardless of his VP, and she should not want to go down with that ship!
Moreover, where do you get "muscle in"?? No one used that word when George HW Bush was put on Reagan's ticket, or when LBJ was chosen VP in 1960. But everything Hillary does must be seen negatively, right?
Comparing her situation to the voters in Zimbawei is truley unbelievable.Like somehow this thing has been rigged.
I just hope this thing is over soon because it is really getting out of hand.
I sincerely hope that Barack Obama does not feel pressured into offering Hillary Clinton the VP spot. To do so would undermine his "change" theme by bring along a bunch of unnecessary , business-as-usual, baggage (both HIll and Bill). The country needs fresh new leadership, and with class, grace and intelligence, Obama has taken the high road, while Hillary has gone out of her way to bait him at every turn. Just look at her! Who needs that?
Dear Jack: Of course she can. She has been working towards that end for weeks. There is no way the DNC and the superdelegates are going to just hand her the nomination and she is definately politically astute enough to know it. It's the Presidency any way she can get there. It will be interesting to see what kind of political machinations the Clinton campaign comes up with next to secure the vice-presidency.
She still thinks she can muscle her way to the President's spot. Forget the secret service if this ever where the ticket they would need a cabinet post for Dr. Phil.
Really, what does it matter? Hillary's scorched earth, win at all costs approach has so divided the party that this election is already over. I will support the democrat who is nominated but the divisions and out-right hate have already given this one to McCain. Funny though, sets HRC up to run again in 2012. God help us.
I sincerely hope not. Clinton would bring all of her negatives to the ticket, and would never be satisfied to be second chair. It would tear the ticket apart, give Republicans a reason to vote, and hand the White House to McCain in November. Senator Obama, please be smarter than that!
I don't know if she can or not but key members of her campaign (read: Bill) definitely appear to be positioning her that way. I think it all depends on how much control Obama can take over the process of picking a veep. A good test, if you ask me, of how well his convictions would stand up to "political" pressure.
No, she blew it a long time ago.
Ron San Diego
I should hope not. I believe that Sen Obama has more streangth and good judgement to do that. By the way, I saw a picture in the Spectrum newpaper today of Pres. Bush. To me he looks just like the kid on the cover of Mad magazine.
Yes, this combination is well worth the focus group research to see if it would enhance the Democrats margin of victory in November and to see if it would add Congressional seats for the Democrats. It would be fun campaign with massive profits for the advertisers.
She will certainly try. However, I think Senator Obama would be foolish to take her as a running mate. He doesn't need her and she would only be a hinderance to his administration.
I don't know what that means but Obama better not be using our donations to save that lady's debt. If she wants to be president, she should take some financial lessons.
Hey" Jack the answere to your question is Capital N.O....no she can't muscle her way into a vice president but if she really want to be in the white house i will advice my home boy Obama to give her a cleaining job at white house....!!!
The last several months have amply demonstrated Hillary’s and Bill’s Ego problem. Ego was the reason Hillary couldn’t get a Health Care Bill done in 1993. Ego is the reason she kept on running when her supporters stopped sending money. Obama does not need an egotist creating problems for him while he is fixing the economy and getting us out of Iraq. Her Ego has destroyed whatever future she might have had in politics.
Carl from Pahrump, Nv
It's disturbing that Clinton has seemed to gain some traction with her disingenuous, conniving comments and "fuzzy" math. She is not an honorable person.....the candidates signed that agreement before the primary contests began, where by they both understood the rules for Florida and Michigan. if the roles were reveresed, she would be screaming bloody hell, that she was not being treated fairly if consideration were given to Fla and Mich.....she takes whatever position fits her needs at the time, the hell with fairness and truth......I certainly don't want a president that is untrustworthy and dishonest.....and just what do you think the world community is thinking about her .....she should not be offered the VP seat..
The cost to the nation would wipe away any economic gains. Hiring a food taster, would be first on the list. A kevlar back plate second, and then there si 'Slick Willie'. (do not get me wrong as a President he ranks with Pres. Kennedy, and Pres. Johnson, and has my utmost respect). The End of respect
How many pensions do we owe 'The Clintons'/ Do they get a set of secret service for each position they held in government?
The way that the elections have been so far, he would have a much better chance of winning with her on the ticket than without her. I do not believe Obama can beat Mc Cain alone. He may be able to get more votes in the Midwest, but she outshines him in the East. Even though Kennedy disliked Johnson , he had him on his ticket and won. At this point, neither one of them can win without the other.
If she does get the VP slot, the republicans will air endless footage of the nasty things she has said about Obama over the last months. If she does not, it will be chalked up to sexism. This is why so many Democrats wanted this to end weeks ago.
No Jack not as Vice President. He should take her on as a White House Telephone Operator for the night shift so she can answer those 3 AM phone calls.
I don't know and really don't care.
I just got your book and can't put it down. It came in the morning mail.
Beware America, the Pied Piper is among us.
Hillary's scratching, clawing and manipulation tactics in this past race is why she's not the Democratic nominee. Obama would be trying to layout his quality campaign on the chalkboard, only to find Hillary standing next to him scratching her claws all over it. She would be irritating, Jack
After everything she has done she would be toxic to that ticket. also she would re-energize the Republican base. She will try! He should kick her straight to the curb, or as they say toss her under the bus.!
Senator Clinton should not be in the VP spot. She should be in the President's slot. All voters have not cast their ballots yet.
Obama does not have a 30% chance of winning. He has offended too many Americans about their values.
Senator Obama lacks any judgment about people and ideas he embraces. Rev. Wright, Trinity Church, Tony Rezko, Larry Sinclair, the Hamas terror group, Bill Ayers. He is as Marxist and socialist. He does not have America values. The only thing he has going for him is his conning people with his bogus promises.
Senator Obama has damaged the Democratic Party so much, many people will never vote for a Democrat again.
The Hillary Team could muscle her on the ticket with ease, but it would not be a wise move for her Jack She may not play second fiddle well thus hurting her future plans, perhaps a top position building a super resume would be a far better choice. Kinda like a President in waiting seen as a all American team player.
No, her baggage is to heavy. the people will have a choice which is McCain/bush plan for four more years or Obama/change for america. White women or white men will have to vote for Obama if they want to see america safe for their children and grand children. I am white and I will vote for Obama only if Hillary is not on the ticket. our founding fathers will rool in their grave if they see a clinton in the white house. you may ask how do I know and my answer is that I have their genes in my blood.
She can try but I do not think she will succeed because #1 she is over qualified for the VP position as she has been making that known to America and #2 Obama is going to have work to do and he cannot spend time worrying about what the former president , former first lady and former first daughter is doing behind his back. What Hillary needs to do is rally around Obama when these primaries are over and start campagning for him as she promised she would once we have a nominee (Obama).
Just thinking about that possibility is bad for my blood pressure.
Lord I hope not. Obama will be assasinated if she's her VP; by the Arkansas Mafia!!!
I don't know if she need's to muscle her way there. I'm against Hillary Clinton on so many of her ideas but adding her supporters to Obama's supporters would help to ensure one of the biggest landslide victories in Presidential history. I refuse the notion that Obama supporters would vote for McCain if Hillary was on the ticket. But at the same time JFK put LBJ on his ticket and it helped him win the Presidency but in the long run it didn't work out too well for Kennedy.
Probably not, because Obama can appeal to Clinton's rural voters by choosing a V.P. such as John Edwards. He can appeal to the women voters by choosing another woman such as Senator McCaskill. Obama has many options for the V.P. spot. Clinton is not his only option to appeal to voters whom he is not attracting. At this point it may actually hurt Obama to have Clinton as his V.P. because she may feel as though she should be President and she and Bill Clinton would take over the White House. Obama needs a V.P. with as little baggage as possible.
Let's review the recent past: lied about attack in Kosovo, is in the midst of trying to convince DNC to count two votes that were beauty contests so many Dems didn't bother to vote, has repeatedly said Obama is not experienced enough to be President. How are any of these things advantageous enough for him to want her on the ticket with him?
If he is smart he might take a Clinton supporter who might bring a state or a demographic or might shore up the experience argument, maybe McCaskill? Richardson?
He might lose supporters if he puts Clinton on the ticket, or at the very least have trouble bringing Reagan Democrats on board.
dont be fooled by the pants suits,this woman will do anything she can do make shore the GOP will win the White House in Nov,she dosent care about the people that voted for Obama and the only people that matter is her working class white voters with little or no education,they should be insalted by her comments about them,but i guess they dont understand what shes saying about her voters.
She can sure try but I don't think that's the position she wants and by the time she plays all of her dirty tricks, up through to the convention, to get the nomination, no one is going to want her for anything because she's going to lose the presidential race for the Democrats.
Is this another "changing of the rules"; another ploy in displaying power that H really does not have? As a 60+ yr old woman, I was initially proud of seeing Hillary run for President. But when she started changing the game by changing the rules and metrics tto which she had originally agreed, I had to drop my support. How can I hold her up as an example to my granddaughter of how you run a race in life? When things don't go your way, let's change all the rules? Kids want to change rules anyway when they cannot get their way–that's when adults must teach them the facts of life. No, I do not seee H as an example for my granddaughter–disagreeing with Obama about that and do not see how he can ask her to be his VP.
No, she cannot muscle her way into the VP spot. In fact, nobody can muscle their way in, this spot should be reserved for someone who has always stood-by the nominee in a positive way. Hillary messed-up her chance for the VP slot with every negative word she spewed against Obama during the primary season. Her bridge to the VP slot was burned months ago.
Please tell Hillary to give us a break. According to her the pathway to the Presidency leads through West Virginia, Kentucky and now through Obama. He is The Change Candidate and Billary is no change. Besides, if I see Bill Clinton wagging and pointing that crooked finger one more time – well the whole Clinton thing makes me NAUSEOUS!
Obama is too intelligent to allow her to force herself on him. He is the messenger of change in the White House. Having Hillary and Bill there would bring back nightmares of the days that were. Like Letterman said, " Her back up plan to get to the White house is to marry McCain".
Perhaps, if Bill or Chelsea doesn't want it. We know Bill can't be president again and Chelsea could be V.P. for 8 years until "it's her turn" to be the Clinton in the White House. (I don't know of a minimum age requirement to be V.P.)
Jack, even though you dont read my comments, all I have to say is, all she earned from her bickering and negative campaigning is a big THANK YOU for helping us realize more and more why we need change in washington
Not if there is really a merciful god above.
"muscle" is a poor choice of words
She needs to convince all that the Dems cannot win without her
I for one will not vote the ticket if she isn't on it
one thing the primaries indicate is that onlly a little more than 50% of their voters are impressed with Obama
If the Obama campaign had any brains at all, she would not need to muscle her way onto the ticket, they would be begging her. There is only one way to the white house this time for the Democrats, which means attracting all the constituencies that only the two candidates together can deliver. Anything less is a sure victory for McCain.
VP? Are you kidding? I am still worried that she'll muscle her into the nomination. I just don't trust her.
If she does manage to muscle her way onto this ticket, Obama is going to have to have extra secret service to protect him from her. she will stop at nothing to get into that ovel office unto and including murder. Just ask Vince Fosters family. I doubt that obama would be dumb enough to make that move.
Jenny Rome Ga
Jack, Hillary Clinton is going to muscle, cheat or steal her way to the nomination. If she does not get her way there, I certainly hope Obama won't choose her as a running mate. This woman has jaws of steel and a killer instinct to match. He will never be able to turn his back on her without fearing the stiletto.
Jack, I'll bet you a tank of gas the the "mystery" person is one of Bill Clinton's stooges sent to plant this ridiculous idea to the media. All of this VP nonsense is not about what is good for America; it is what is good for Bill Clinton's cash flow. This sudden Hillary for Vice President idea does not pass the smell test.
She is not needed on the ticket as VP. Barrack will pick a VP that will help win and bring something postive to the ticket.
What the DNC needs to do is find a canidate from NY who can unseat her in the Senate. The sooner the Clintons are out of government the better off America will be as a nation.
Oh! And the sooner we can get them out of the Democrat party the sooner we can begin to heal the rif.
The questions presumes that the VP position is one that is obtained not offered. You muscle your way into a crowded subway not on a political ticket. Obama will have to choose her and that choice will in the delusional fantasy land Clinton seems to live in.
Can Hillary muscle her way in ... ? I'm surprised you didn't use "steamroll" instead of "muscle," but in a word: NO.
If she can successfully fool people with culture wars, fuzzy math, etc into doubting our best candidate in a generation, sure she can try to muscle her way into the VP slot. But if she were to get there, the democrats would surely lose. The Clinton name anywhere on the ticket will not be about Change. It will be about status quo and a past rife with questionable associations and divisiveness.
An Obama ticket offers us a fresh start. So if she muscles her way in, I won't vote for a ticket with her name on it. And I am sure a majority of voters won't either.
Jack - Hillary may try to muscle her way into the VP slot, but Senator Obama has to continue to show his fortitude and "do the right thing" and reject her as a running mate. Hillary (and, let's face it, Bill as well) will cause too much ruckus and distraction for Obama to effectively lead as President. The Clinton's shenanigans and mischief would cast a pall over his vision of change. I (and many, many others) would suspect outright sabotage and subterfuge on the part of the Clintons to intentionally derail Obama's efforts. Obama should leave Hillary off the ticket and continue to campaign as he has up 'til now. His message of change is sincere, and many will grow tired of hearing Senator McCains endless, boring monologues of business-as-usual.
She said that she should be hired to do the job of president and I asked myself if I would hire her as a CEO of a major corporation. No, she is in debt because of poor management, she is not trusted by more than 60% of the voters, she has a husband that was impeached from the job she seeks, she is a confirmend liar and she would only be one heartbeat from the job she believes she is suppose to be in. She may be able to pull this off, but I wouldn't hire her to run the corner gas station let alone VP or any other powerful position.
Welll, this will be a test for Obama. If we are to believe he can stand up to Iran and North Korea, he darn well better be able to stand up to Clinton and the DNC. His supporters hate her. Republicans hate her. I can't think of a running mate that would be more toxic to this candidate who inspires and offers so many hope.
Of course he should choose Clinton! She can teach him so much about running a debt-free campaign, how to deal with White House scandals, and most importantly, the correct methods of dodging sniper fire!
maybe but who care they are old elderly poeple and they care only about themself and the next BIG FREE meal . We know they will vote for mc Cain because of his view for Israel with for me is the cause of all our problems in this region ...they do not want peace they are doing an holocaust again Palestinian .. did they forget so easely what is to be Ihungry !!!!!!!!!!! I am a manouche many poeple from my family died in camp where is their monument ?????????????????
i think it should be a Obama-Richardson or a Obama-Nunn ticket Sam Nunn has the foreign policy know how Richardson has diplomacy skills and would bring in the hispanic vote........Obama can then pay off HRC campaign debt and get her out of his hair
Hillary does not want the V.P. job. Since Cheney,that job is poison. She wants to be the next Ted Kennedy!
It's so simple. Oil and water just don't mix no matter how hard you try. Hillary and Bill are so destructive and evil, Obama would not live to see 1/21/09. He would join the other two dear departed that the Clintons have cast their shadows on, Ron Brown and Vince Foster.
She'll sure try, but the best thing for her to do would be to strike a deal for some more influential position, and then throw her campaign weight behind a Obama and someone other than Hillary ticket. This would still help to unify the party and keep Obama's commitment to change.
Why would she want to? She's already had the back seat to power in the White House. Why would Obama want to risk her and Bill back seat driving in HIS White House? This just doesn't make sense for either one of them to consider it. cy gardner arlington, VA
Jack – No. Hillary will not be able to. Had she and Bill kept their rhetoric at a minimum, then yes. But her comparisons of Florida and Michigan to the elections in Zimbabwe, are examples of going over the top.
The main point though is that Obama's people will be able to successfully lobby that Ickies wrote the rules basically that are keeping out Michigan and Florida, and he should both recuse himself from the rules committee, and/or be the factor in disqualifying a full seating of the two states based upon his prior political shenanigans.
When it comes to the Clintons though, dont rule out anything, but if they continue, she may just be "muscling" her way as Head Dog Catcher in a city near you!
No. Obama has earned the nomination and has a right to pick a VP of his choice. Clinton is not a good choice because she has too many negatives and ahas cted very low class during the primary with her race baiting and foolish fight for votes in Florida and Michigan after she agreed to abide by the rules of the DNC.
Jack, If that ever happen, she only will wait until they win the election, then she and Bill will come up with some plans as to how to get him out the White House, watch and see. She love power and think her dad willed her the White House. She is a Clinton and they don't give up, neither they will settle for second best. Don't do it Obama!
It's hard to picture her in the VP position after her "SHAME ON YOU BARAK OBAMA" speech.
Her continuing attacks on him as her campaign falters puts the future successes of the Democrat party at risk for her personal gain.
Any attempt by her to put on a happy face and pretend to support him now would raise serious doubts about her trust-worthiness as the number two that is supposed to "have the back" of the president.
As president, Obama would have to spend too much time looking over his shoulder to watch this ambitious woman.
Oh, please spare us!! Hillary could probably force her way onto the ticket, but it would then be less of the change we need and want. Obama must be able to choose his running mate according to his thinking and his vision. He is practical, and not naive about people, and I think we can trust him to choose wisely.
Everybody's votes shoud be heard. The Obama supporters in the caucus states should protest also to get the votes counted. Go ahead and add Fl and MI votes. Then while you're at it add the caucus states votes, which Obama won, Iowa, Nevada, Washington & Maine. The estimate from these four Caucus states increases Senator Obama’s popular vote margin by 110,224. Obama was not on the Michigan Ballot and thus received zero votes. Uncommitted was on the ballot and received 238,168 votes as compared to 328,309 for Senator Clinton. So count all of the votes, not just FL and MI because they are not complete but Obama still leads.
Obama will lose his base if she is on the ticket. He is supposed to be about change. How can he be with her on the ticket. I love him, but would be reluctant to vote for him with her on the vallet.
WHY would Hillary want the V.P. spot? Other than Bush Sr., when was the last time a SITTING V.P got elected as president?
Would Obama sacrifice his credibility by asking her to be on the ticket?
Would putting her on the ticket, mean that the DNC must pay off her campaign debts?
She should, as a current and future U.S. Senator, campaign very hard for Obama using his campaign funds, while being able to raise money on her own behalf, to pay off debts and prepare for her 2012 re-election.
Whatever else she has in mind, can be negotiated.
jack hillary just needs to go away. if she run a better campaign she might be in this spot. her suppporters are suffering just like the obama supporters. they will come around. she represents the status quo and this not the 90's
Regardless of what anyone else thinks, she certainly thinks that she can. In fact, I fully suspect that we haven't seen Bill Clinton all that much in recent days because Hillary has him busy at at the White House measuring for redecorations.
Jack, I'm sure she'll try but I hope Obama is smart enough to realize that the "change" he talks about means not having someone like her as his running mate. This long drawn out primary has really turned me off on her. Brent in Ohio
No. Obama has earned the nomination and has a right to pick a VP of his choice. Clinton is not a good choice because she has too many negatives and has acted very low class during the primary with her race baiting and foolish fight for votes in Florida and Michigan after she agreed to abide by the rules of the DNC.
The woman is shameless, she lies, cheats and changes the rules as she goes along. Her campaign is heavily in debt, Wow these are great qualifications for A VP. She is not going to ever stop and this thing will drag on forever. No one in the DNC has the guts to tell her she is hurting the party and needs to stop, not that she would listen. Superdelegates could put the fire out on this, what are they waiting for?
No, Because the people are looking for a change at this time to the old way of doing things. While a lot of us are very grateful for what Hillary and her husband have done while her husband was running the country. I honestly feel that we should be moving forward to heal this country and fix the problems plaguing this country together. I think Hillary would a better job as a adviser to Obama and help him to be a effective leader when dealing with other countries.
The way I see it if voters are that stupid to not vote for Obama without Hillary, they deserve everything that follows under a McCain presidency. I don't want to hear anyone people complaining when they had the chance to make a difference but instead choose to vote against their political beliefs based on some kind of emotional entrenchment in one particular candidate. Its stupid Jack, just stupid.
I wouldn't mind seeing hillary as the VP. She would make a great VP to backup Obama and unite the democratic party.
Not if I can help it. I am a Obama supporter that would vote McCain in a heartrbeat if she is on the ticket. I don't like her, and definately don't trust her. Obama should think long and hard before having her join him.
I would hope Obama doesn't fall for it. She would be like that annoying person at work who is always trying to take over your job because they are convinced they are better at it than you, even though no one in the office likes them because they are always taking credit for things they didn't do. I'd be always looking over my shoulder and find it hard to concentrate on the job at hand. She is too dishonest for such a high position anyway. When she says the "votes in Michigan and Florida should count" she just means her votes, right? Because anyone with a brain can figure out that Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan and many of his supporters in Florida DID NOT VOTE because they were told their votes didn't matter. I don't think I could live through another four years of the blatant "twisting of the truth," these last eight years have drained me!
Absolutely yes Jack! The DNC on May 31 will get not just an ear full from Hillary but will get her range of ultimatums including: if you don't include Florida and Michigan my way then I don't bring supporters to Obama; if you don't help with my debt then I filibuster the convention; and finally if you don't let me win this thing outright then I better be V.P.
If Obama wants to have any credibility at all with his supporters and keep the ideals he bases his campaign on, he should flex his muscles and keep Clinton off the ticket as VP. Hillary is not 'entitled' to anything. Since Hillary does not represent change and the honesty Obama seeks to restore to Washington, he should politely defer to another candidate for VP.
I'm a 61 year old white guy who voted for Obama, but I would rather see Obama go down to an honorable defeat than betray everything he stands for and believes in by picking Clinton as his VP. Because of Hillary's dishonesty and attempted manipulation of the rules and process she will never be the President or VP. There is nothing like justice. I have been both the victim and beneficiary of justice and I believe in it strongly. Justice will be done in her case. The is not a man vs woman thing. It's a right vs wrong thing. Go Obama!
I think that she is and maybe she should. With the amount of her voters saying they would vote for McCain if she didn't get the nomination, it may be the only way to assure a win for the Democrats. I am and always have been an Obama supporter, but I would rather see her as Vice President than McCain as President.
Hillary is going to try to muscle herself into anything on the ticket. Hillary is all about Hillary. It's why she voted for the war. It was for Hillary's benefit, she thought. She was wrong then and she's wrong now. Sen. Obama will win in Nov. without Hillary. All those emotional women supporters of Hillary will realize that McCain isn't supportive of women. I'm not being biased against women. I'm a 62 yr old white woman who would never support her. Many of my friends have also decided they would not support her. God Bless our next president Sen. Obama. He's our future. Hillary is the past.
Hello Jack! First of all she should apologize to Senator Obama for her negative campaigning against him and for the divisiveness she has stirred up among Democratic voters. A sincere apology might appease some Obama supporters who don't feel comfortable with her being on the ticket. She should not use her muscles, that have already failed her in getting the nomination, but she should find a way to convince the Obama camp and voters that she is honestly dedicated to reconcile and unify the party. In the eyes of many people Clinton has lost her credibility, now it's her time to redeem herself!
The choice of Vice President is the nominee's prerogative, not the would-be Vice President's. Obama has beaten the Clinton Machine. Even a narrow win in the "game of expectations" is enormous. So I'd say, Hillary hasn't enough muscle left. And what she has, she'd best use to muscle her way back to the Senate where she can do a great deal of good.
I don't think she should Jack. Obama is going to lose, so why would she want to be on a losing ticket?
Hillary can't muscle her way onto the ticket. Even though Hillary-supporters want Hillary to get a conciliation prize (VP spot?), Obama doesn't want to feel that he has to defend the baggage that Hillary (and Bill) have. How can Obama argue in a general election against McCain when "pundits" will ask him how can he trust Hillary (and Bill). How can Obama go all out on the Iraq War argument with McCain, when Hillary still believes in her initial support of the Iraq War?
Plus too much spiteful rhetoric has come out of the Hillary camp towards Obama on "inexperience", "judgement", and "fitness to be commander-n-chief".
The best that Obama could offer Hilliary is a position in his cabinet or possibly be a future Supreme Court Justice.
I really hope not, she has not earned her way on to that ticket and it is obvious that HR/Bill Clinton would undermine not to mention scapegoat Obama the first chance they could get...so no that would be a unwise choice for VP!!!
I don't believe Hillary would be the best choice as VP running mate because she does indeed bring excess baggage with her and the notion that a majority of Americans feel she is dishonest. However, if choosing her will make her stand down and get out of the way so Obama can focus on McCain and the general election, I'm all for it!
Let's hope she can if for no other reason than to make it a fair race to the white house.
Right now Obama will blow McBush out of the water once the one on one comparisons come in on domestic policy, war, age, flip flopping etc.
When the public gets a chance to evaluate McCain's idea that it's better to fight and kill than to use diplomacy and negotiation he will need all the help he can get and Hillary will present the only chance to throw some legitimate dirt! Maybe it will even overshadow his insistence to continue on with the Bush economic policies as well.
Yes, she will try to muscle her way on to the ticket. Traditional Politics call for her to be in the VP position so the democrats are more certain of a win. Obama's change message will never come to fruition if she is on the ticket, so instead of bolstering the ticket she will be another reason some people will vote republican. Or, like me, if Hillary Clinton with her ties to the old politics is on the ticket I will not vote at all. The country is doomed unless real change happens and that will only occur if Obama has the freedom to surround himself with people who are willing to separate from lobbyists and don't have significant ties to the establishment. However, I'm still waiting for the sinister part of politics to rear its ugly head and give her the 1st place spot. Is Canada still accepting defectors?
Gawd I hope not. It would be a sure win for the Republicans if she did.
Hillary's GOP roots are coming to the forefront as she is showing her true colors more and more everyday.I think her endgame is not so much in winning the nomination but rather it is insuring that Barack does not become president.
Oh what a bag of tricks he Clinton's are. Hillary deserves nothing but a bus ticket home. She and her husband have used all the A through Z excuses to move back into the White House including racist attitudes to try and gain the nomination. If I'm not mistaken, it was Slick Willy who said,"If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. The muck they have cooked up is not only inedible but insulting. It has been nice however, to see what "True" selfserving Patriots they are. Let Bill have his affairs in private and Hillary, her jackboots and swagger stick. I wouldn't even want her for a relative much less a mother. They are everything that is wrong with this country. I hope they don't draw anymore "Sniper Fire". Good ridance
Ordaining herself the '08 nominee didn't work. Fibbing didn't work. Slander didn't work. Bigotry didn't work. Creative math isn't working. I suppose muscling – and maybe a convention tantrum – is left, but they won't work either. It's over, it's been over. Obama and the party have moved on.
if she wants to be made fun of for 8 years like dan quayle,then it's good fodder for me,and i would welcome the opportunity.and she'll make obama look more professional,with her childish ways.
why not. then maybe he can appoint the spice girls as joint secretary of state and the dixie chicks in charge of homeland security,give me a break, hillary clinton will be better off in a democratic run senate than she ever will be as vice president. she lost, now its time to unite the party and move on...
Hillary is using all her surrogates, and rich pals to try to strong arm this election. It reminds me of a dictatorship where the rich buy their way to the top. Or is this like a coup for the Clintons?
My advice is this: Hillary please stop being a sore loser.
Hill and Bill have had their turn in the White House and even after a lot of dirt being thrown, Hillary has also lost this delegate game for the nomination. Now stop trying to use money and influence in an attempt to steal it.
I hope not. Hillary Clinton by far is the WORST Democratic politician of the past decade. History will show how she did everything underminded and sneakily to try and steal this nomination after she clearly lost. She stinks!
Obama has better judgment than that. I have no problem with a woman being president, but not her. With all that Obama will have to deal with in the White House when he is elected, he will not have time to deal with Hillary and Bill. How many years did the country waste on all their personal problems, (whitewater, Monica, Rose Law Firm, Vince Foster, impeachment hearings) and they will bring all their bad baggage with them. Everyone wants to remember the good economic times when Bill was in office, but I remember all their junk, and think how much better it would have been if the years of Clinton's term weren't wasted on all their crap. No, No, No, to Hillary on the ticket.
If she does, I'll lose the respect that I've grown to have for Obama and will vote for McCain.
No, NO, NO, NO, NO. She has come down here to Florida to stir up trouble and now has some of her supporters coming to Washington to cause more mischeif protesting that their votes should count. The Floridians knew their votes was not going to count and did not cause a fuss therefore shouldn't now. One thing Hillary needs to realize is that there are millions of more people in Florida who didn't vote because they were told their vote would not count and they didn't go out to vote . And many did vote for Obama as well. And she herself has said the same thing that they wouldn't count. Hillary Clinton is causing great division by making her supporters feel this nomination is being taken from her. She really is using the Floridians just like she's used Michigan to get what She wants for herself. We do not need another cheating president trying to steal the nomination again. Hillary should be shame of herself using gender to achieve her evil mission as well to obtain her own agenda. So Low.
I don't think she can because of her vicious attacks on Obama-Been-Muslim. Of course, the lady does know how to play rough- believe me, we in Arkansas can attest to that!
Hillary can not muscle her way on to the Obama ticket because she isn't from the same ethical background that Obama is. If she had stopped her campaigning after the Oregon and Kentucky primaries maybe Obama would have considered her. Unfortunately we all know she's either waiting for something "bad" to happen to Obama or the goal posts to be set to better serve her goals. Nancy Phoenix, Arizona
I won't be voting for Obama if Clinton is on the ticket.
These new allegations of Obama starting the process of looking for a V.P., only make it easier for him to not choice her at the end. There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary is trying to spit the party so that super delegates would force him to pick her as a running mate. If he is forced to pick her, like JFK had to, if any thing happens, we would know who to blame. So let everyone remember what is occurring as this young, intellectual, caring, unifier, none lobbyist money taking, none dirty politic, good policy, taking back the nation for the people, restoring our rights person is being put through. I hope that super delegates would turn in his favor before the end of the month to send a message that we will not allow this to go to the convention.
The question isn't "can she," the question we should be asking ourselves is, "will she"? We are all well aware of what the Billary Political Machine is capable of when they get down into the trenches of politics, perhaps we should instead be asking ourselves how much credibility Obama would lose if he added the disenchanting Clinton brigade to his already formidable stronghold.
No Jack, she can't.
With her obliquity of conduct this delusional former first lady can only muscle her way to the office of the best psychiatrist in the country for a mental evaluation.
Hristo from Van Nuys
It wouln't matter if she did. No one is voting for Obama in November ,other than the supporters he has right now! Clinton in second place,is missing the whole point of the will of the people. Most Americans want Hillary in first position due to her experience and her concern for the Middle-Class and Working-Class people.Her playing second fiddle will not save the DNC from the message Middle and Working-Class people are wishing to send. The number one issue in middle America's mind is "telling the DNC that we ,too,have a voice.......a voice that has been almost totally disenfranchised in this Primary because of ,Fl. and Mich.,caucusing states,states that vote and caucus,states that are closed to Registered Democrats only, and awarding extra delegates to those States that move their elections back ,while those who moved up,lost all of their delegates. Seniors and Middle-Class America will have the last say in this race,if we have to vote Republican. These DNC rules have stripped the majority from having a voice,and maximized the impact of liberal minority groups.
Hillary doesn't have to "muscle" her way to the ticket. It's very simple. Millions of Hillary supporters, such as myself, will not vote for Obama...unless Hillary is on with him. An Obama/Clinton ticket guarantees I would vote for it. Any questions?
John Portelli Albany, NY
thats a decision obama has to make, but i think hillary rightfully DOES NOT deserve it, she became too negative and divisive in this campaign
She is the opposite of what Obama stands for. If he has to pick her as VP she and Bill will try to be the ones running the show. Every time Obama accomplishes something good, they will try to take all the credit.
I certainly hope not. Barack stands for change and she certainly is not change. Hillary and Bill will do whatever they want and try anything to be in charge. How can anyone want someone with such ego to
be in office?
Too bad she cannot and will not admit defeat. Too bad they
care about nothing and no one but theirselves.
Why on earth would he want her??? there are certainly other candidates who would contribute a lot to the ticket. She is divisive and pushy. He certainly does not need the Clinton antics to contend with. He can soar without her. I think that once this process is over, he will continue to do a beautiful job of presenting himself and his platform and the side show (circus) will be a thing of the past. It is nothing but distraction.
I sure hope not. That would be disastrous for the concept of democracy. If Obama wins and he will, then he should be able to pick any running mate he want's, regardless of what anybody says. Remember that he is running for president of the United States and a president as to be able to make his on decisions.
I believe that being forced to put Hillary Clinton on the ticket would show an inability for Obama to make his own decisions which is a necessary quality for a leader. In that view, it would be as if he was indeed negociating with a dictator only to give in to his demands by granting him more power. That's how ridiculous it would be and he would lose a lot of votes on this one.
jack,hillary just needs to go away. if she would have ran a better campaign she might not be in this spot. her supporters are hurting just as much as obama supporters. they will come around. she represents the staus quo and this is not the 90's.
I wish Senator Clinton would muscle her way back to Chappequa. Her pity party is beginning to get on this feminist's nerves. If only she'd fought for the vote in 2000 and 2004 the way she's fighting for Florida and Michigan now. Is this ever going to end????
Only Hillary would want to force herself into becoming the V.P.
Obama and Hillary are within 1 million votes from one another in the popular vote. In a race where about 35 million people have voted, it's virtually a tie. The stronger candidate in this case is not necessarily going to be the winner. The race is just too close to predict that. I honesty believe that Hillary Clinton is a guarantee win in November. She won all the swing states. Obama's not going to win West Virginia. He's not going to win Florida. He's not going to win Ohio. I don't even think he is going to win Pennsylvania. In order for Obama to win in November without Hillary, he is going to have to win like no other democrat has ever won. He will have to change the electoral map. Goodluck with that baby. Goodluck.
She will TRY but ultimately she will be unsuccessful. Her husband's guilt will propel her in that direction but HOPEFULLY more thoughtful heads will prevail and she will wake up to realize that she is no longer riding the bus to the nomination, she has been thrown UNDER the bus....her use of brute force (Clinton machine) will eventually, slowly, painfully slowly - trickle down and disgust the rest of the folks who are still pining away for her. I supported Mrs. Clinton until about two months ago when her need for dominance & the force of her ego became more important than a cohesive Democratic party.
She can try, but the very act of muscling is what has caused so many voters to drift from her to Obama.
How does being the "very close" second place candidate not make her the right choice? Why the use of the phrase "muscle in?"
Many a POTUS has selected their VP for electoral weight regardless of muatual admiration, why has anything changed just because it's Hillary?
The question is whether she can "muscle her way" into the Demo nomination. Or whether she will run on a third party ticket if she doesn't get her way with Florida and Michigan. I can see "Count the Votes," being her rallying cry in an independent candidacy.
Aspen Free Press
Can she? Yes. The question really is should she? As Machiavellian as it sounds, she is probably best off passing on the Veep slot and working quietly to see that Obama loses. She would be a lock for the nomination in 2012 and could say "I told you so.."
Jack – Hillary has done alot of damage to the Democratic Party. She is a walking contradiction. Crying sexism on one hand and then bragging about getting the most popular votes. Its a joke. Obama would be better off picking someone who was well liked by the working class and didnt bring any Washington DC baggage along. Still, she would still make History by being the first female Vice President, and perhaps be in a better position to be President 8 years from now. Its up to Obama. He obviously has yet to make a deal.
Can she? Yes.
Should she? No.
Will she try anyway? Yes.
Is this surprising? No.
Jack, She can but she shouldn't be allowed to. I think most of us who are voting for Senator Obama are really looking for something new and different.
I'm a 51 year old woman who understands that it is time for new, youthful, fresh approaches to running the government. Also, in my experience, reaching back to old ways of thinking and doing things, is never a good move.
Senator Clinton is tenacious but I hope Senator Obama has the sound judgement to take the country, truly in another direction.
Enough with the Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton dynasty thing.
If by "muscle" you mean the Clinton mafia, then I guess they can try to convince Barack Obama that Hillary deserves to be on the ticket. The Clinton mafia hasn't been able to "muscle" all of us voters though they have gotten to a large number of voters. Jack, it is time for a woman President or Vice President, just not this woman.
Jack, Although I hate to say it, she probably will and to be honest it MAY not be such a bad thing. Is it?
Jack, I liked Hillary a lot but it is clear that Obama should be the candidate. Seems she left something back at the white house which she is determined to retrieve before time runs out (kind of reminds me of the movie “National Treasure”). The super delegates should put an end to this never ending race. Hilary is like a recurring decimal, the energizer bunny that just keeps on going and going and going. Anything to get back into the White house, she’ll take any thing offered.
Hillary for President, not second fiddle to Barack Obama, is what the bumper stickers say. She is fighting for the nomination not the "booby" prize. It would be totally beneath her to be on the ticket as Obama's VP. A better ticket would be Clinton/Gore. Clintons in the White House, Gores in the VP's house. Sounds good just as it did before.
Jackzilla, she will try. I can see her now, kicking and screaming, and lashing out any way she can, but the fat lady has already sung, and I for one am thrilled that Barack will not choose her. She and bill are all washed up, and it couldn't happen to a better bunch of hacks then them.
I do not think Obama would want to hold his nose when he picks a V.P. running mate. What I believe is, she could develope more mucles than the governor of California, and, if I were Obama, I still wouldn't let her in.
No, I do not think Barack Obama is gullible enough to allow Hillary Clinton in as his running mate. There can be only one president and Hillary would act as if she was co-president. She has proven she can't follow the chain of command by wanting to override DNC rules that disallowed Florida and Michigan votes. How could any president accomplish any goal with a vice-president second guessing every decision?
The question rather is "Is she interested in that?" I don't think so because she has never been good in being no# 2. And I mean that as a compliment! I really think she could do very well in being no# 1, if not as president than something else.
If Barack does choose Hillary, it will only be a matter of time before Michelle puts Bill in his much needed place. It may be worth it just to finally see that happen.
I certainly hope not! Maybe Obama can offer her a permanent post as assistant to the assistant dog catcher in Siberia!!
I hope not....I think that would be the demise of this election. Obama is doing fine without her and he will continue to do so. I see Hillary and Obama as two very strong people, but neither one is dependent upon the other one to make a strong ticket in November. I think if he did pick her, it would create one heck of a media circus......we don't need anymore circuses. The US has been in a circus for the last 7 years, with George Bush in the center ring....no more please~
I hope so
Well yes I guess anything is possible with regards to Hillary. The real question would be how many people lost or gained by doing this would change their toon. I for one will never vote Hillary even as the VP so Obama would lose my vote.
I don't know what Hillary is doing.What she is doing is nothing short of extortion.She is threatening that if the DNC doesnot give her what she wants on May 31 that she will take it all the way to the convention.I don't think that Obama will offer her the VP.I honestly believe that she would go as far as tainting this election to the point Obama loses and she can run again in 2012.I'm a Republican for Obama.But I will not vote Obama/Clinton.
Clinton's win in PA, OH, WV, KE, & somewhat in TX, is a LOT fewer than Obama won!
Colorado was a "Red" state and he won there! So was NC, so was MO....... and so on.
The national polls still show Hillary with a very high "unlikeability"..... the general public does not care for her.
Of course, if the media continues to say "blue-collar workers wont vote for Obama" they will influence that vote. Why not just present the issues, educate people about the enormous problems we face and allow us, the PEOPLE, to make up our own minds.
OBAMA 08 & 12!
Obama can't win in Nov, and why he would not offer to be VP for the good of the Country is beyond us.
He stopped revote in Florida and Michigan that was already setup to be paid for – THAT TELLS ME ALL I NEED TO KNOW.
She should not have to "muscle her way in", at all! Obama could humble himself and ask her, just for the fact that her experience nullifys the INexperience argument that McCain will raise in the general election.
This country needs both of them, no matter how unlikely that is.
No, never going to happen. If she is the V.P., Obama's campaign will end in a train wreck. For Clinton to be V.P. its like being the runner up in the Super Bowl. The Clinton's strive for first, anything less then that is not acceptable.
I am surprised to read how Clinton has been destroying the Democratic party and this is said by the supporters of her opponent's. How is it that she messed it up? Because she did not lie down and let this unqualified boob walk all over her? It would make Obama look like a ditz to pick Hillary regardless of the good and bad points listed in the article. He has run around with his nose in the air declaring himself a winner without Hillary.
I am still trying to find out if the general election voting form allows the voter to write in a candidate's name. If so, I will write Hillary in if she does not get this nomination. And maybe, if Barak is willing to learn a real lesson, she will choose him for her veep and teach him what he needs to know for 2012 or 2016.
The democrats had a chance to waltz into the Presidency this year with the mess made by the Bush White House. If Hillary is added as the Vice President the dems have now made this the joke ticket. It is hard enough to get Obama elected in this country but having an aferican american as well as a woman would be just too much for the red states to take.
Why would she want to, Jack. All she has to do is wait four years and run again. Obama will lose to McCain and then she will simply "walk" into the Presidency in 2012.
It seem so, according to Bill's latest statement that "Hillary has earned the VP slot" This is Obama's big chance to prove that he is ready to "turn the page" by selecting someone else.
If she's on the ticket, this life-long Democrat votes Republican for the first time in her life.
Do you people realize the Clinton Campaign has begun printing and selling Chelsea 2016 buttons.
As a PROUD Clinton supporter , I would NEVER vote for obama even if she was on the ticket
So best thing is to let him "hang "alone
HIllary or McCain
She doesn't need to use 'muscle'. It is simple math and numbers. She is half the party and a good bit of history. She is also stronger on areas that he is viewed weaker. However, I hope she does not want the job. I think as a former first-lady the job of VP is not classy enough for her.
Are you really privy to what has really been going on in the Obama camp enough to say Hillary has been muscling in to become vice-president or are you repeating some more negative rumors that have floated about Hillary since she first announced she was running. The Obama camp has been trying anyway they can to get her to admit defeat even though no one has enough delegates to get the nomination. Jack, why is it so hard for you to say something nice about Hillary? She has appealed to million of voters, are you saying that all those who voted for her are dumb and don't know any better. She has appealed to many , many voters who have looked past the negative things that have been said and done to her. If Obama had some equaly offensive comments made about him like she has had made about her, the media and press would be raising a gosh awful case about racism.
Why would Obama want her in the first place especially if she has to muscle her way in. What would that prove. Reminds me of a hostile takeover. And don't go comparing the Kennedy/Johnson thing–different times, different people. Clinton should realize that this year just is not her year and begin to gather her forces for the next run for president. Vice President-no way.
She can try, but there is no way he is going to take her with him. Simply because he does not need her. Not to win, and definitely not when he is a president.
Hillary is using the american people one way saying Obama is sexist but no one is calling her and Bill about being racist. Thats way she is in florida to muscle her self up some votes and the vp ticket. I would love to see a woman on the ticket but not that woman i have no more respect for her.
If Clinton had dropped out of the race when in late February she may have landed a real good shot at the VP spot. But as it stands now Obama is poised on the nomination. Add the super delegates, the pledged delegates and some conservative polling estimates... he need only pick up 5% of the remaining super delegates to win. If you include Michigan and Florida he need about 25% of the remaining delegates. The Michigan Florida issue can be brought to the floor, where Obama delegates dominate. So, Obama has the choice Clinton, Richardson or Edwards.
no way,,,,she has no muscle left...she has antagonized everyone...and so the Clintons march on...defeated
Why are we talking about Hilary muscling her way into being Barack's running mate, shouldn't we be talking about the first time in the history of our nation of having Co-Presidents...do we all believe that Hilary would take a back seat to the message of change by the will of the people that Barack is trying implement in our country. She has an All or None type of personality that would set the Dem party back 40 yrs if she have any role in his office. Hell No For Hilary as VP.
Jack, her and Bill must have a whole bunch of stuff on some of the DNC and Super delegates for them to continue this mess, so I suppose anything is possible. But, hopefully Obama will stick to his guns and not allow that, or all those new registered voters will stay home. Nobody wants a blackmailer or sore loser to run our Country, we've already had nearly eight years of lies, unlawful actions and plain old corruption. The MAJORITY of the public have spoken and it's clear that they prefer Obama to Clinton. Apparently the only one who can't face reality here is Hillary and Bill!
If Clinton does force her way onto the ticket, and they are elected, Obama could limit Bills access to the whitehouse to official dinners etc. where the spouses presense is normally required, and only for those occasions! He could also send Hilary around the world to various countries on "fact finding" missions, then use her to campaign for other dems during the election cycles. There are surely enough small out of the way countries to keep her busy! Africa, SouthAmerica, and middle eastern countries! Maybe she would actually get to dodge sniper fire.
The only way she can muscle her way into the VP role would be if Obama traded his integrity for her voters. I don't think he will, because he's shown himself to be able to resist conventional approaches again and again. Hillary Clinton may be desperate enough to say or do anything to meet her goal, but Barack Obama has integrity.
Well, if she does, the real problem will be the need to get and keep Bill the heck out of Dodge! Obama shouldn't have to put up with Bill hanging around! So . . . give him Hilary's vacated spot in the senate? Or, better yet, an ambassadorship in a galaxy far, far away . . .
Obama will not select Clinton because it would severely compromise his message - and Clinton knows that. What she's trying to do by raising expectations is create as much disappointment and bitterness among her supporters as possible. She can then persuade them to support Obama in exchange for something from the party, maybe the Senate Majority Leader position, or she can just let them remain bitter and not support Obama. If Obama loses, she'll have another chance in 2012.
Think of the selfishness of this strategy. She's willing to make another four years of the Bush policies more likely just to further her own ambitions. Despite her intellect and work ethic, she just does not have the character to be president.
No. Out with the old, in with the new. Clinton's negatives cancel out her positives with her baggage-and I bet the Republicans are keeping NEW info. about the Clintons close to the vest right now. They'd LOVE to see them back in the picture. After the last primary on June 3rd, our long, national nightmare will be over.
Hello Jack, I don't think he wants her and bill on the same ticket but it may be what happens to keep the party from imploding on its self. The clintons are stirring up enough trouble to really drive a wedge between her core base women! who will harbor strong resentments to Sen Obama and the Democratic party. However i feel that chuck hagel could counter the clintons by drawing in a large majority of moderate Republicans and centrist independs. Plus it would prove his intentions of changing politics as usual in washington.
I don't get it. She wants to get on a ticket that she is trying very hard to destroy. She keeps changing the rules of the game, and she also keeps moving the "goal-posts". She said so many times that Obama is unelectable, by "hard-working" white folks, and that McCain is a better candidate. This is sort of like a person who wants to seek shelter in a house they don't like, but first gotta destroy it.
I used to be a Clinton supporter, esp. Bill even during the scandal investigations. Hillary is ruining my summer.
I think having Hillary on the ticket would be the best solution to healing the party. I for one do not trust his experience to lead us in the condition our world is in today. Hillary would be the most powerful Vice President in the history of our country if she were to join his ticket and we need her strength right now!
Many Obama supporters do not want her on the ticket. I believe that this is fear on their part and rightfully so. She has proven she is tough; she is much stronger than Obama on many issues and has proven herself to immediately stand up to the Republican attacks for years. Obama has to consult with his staff for nearly every response he makes for an attack.
Jack, where do you get such nutty ideas? Hillary does NOT want the VP slot. Listen to Nancy Pelosi. She has done at least two interviews saying that ticket is never going to happen. And she wouldn't be saying that unless she had talked to Hillary about it.
I don't think she wants the vice-presidency.
I have grown weary of Hillary Clinton’s disingenuous posturing surrounding Michigan and Florida. She wants this to be a civil rights issue?! She wants to be the victim?! Come to reality. The media, CNN included, rolled Rev. Jeremiah Wright clips over and over for weeks. When will all of you start rolling the clip of Hillary – over and over again – stating, “Those votes won’t count!” Why is the media (CNN included) afraid to shine light on Hillary’s “difficult relationship with the truth?”
No. Clinton's negatives cancel out her positives with her baggage-and I bet the Republicans are keeping NEW info. about the Clintons close to the vest right now. They'd LOVE to see them back in the picture. After the last primary on June 3rd, our long, national nightmare will be over.
Clinton does not deserve a VP spot on the ticket. Obama needs to choose someone who can help him with all of the negative attacks and lies that the Clintons have spread across the country. I have never witnessed such nonsense that she screams every day. She need to get a grip and take a page out of Obama's book and work on healing the party, before we get four more years of McBush. The country has suffered enough, and we need a change. There are many good candidates out there for VP and she is not on the list. Obama doesn't have to choose a toxic running mate. Hillary needs to go home and stop this losing game so that Obama can start to help her supporters along with the rest of the country.
She is the next King. No doubt ! Not because she is good enough.
Because she is bad enough. She already carries same traits
as did one G.W. Bush in 2001. She will be hated as the V.P. equal
to Chenny. This is the most nieve self destroying country of drunk
people in the universe. No cure! just hell to pay. How you like it so far
Yes Hillary is/will "TRY" to muscle her way into the VP spot. Should this happen it will be like a match and gasoline waiting to be ignited for the biggest "Explosion" in the history of the Democratic party in particular and politics in general.
Hillary be gone, the Clintons hasbeens!
If Hillary does muscle her way onto the ticket it will cost Obama much of his support, in the black community and among younger voters. Without that support he will not become President. Hillary is choking on her sense of entitlement and now she wants the entire nation to choke
Hillary as VP would be constantly trying to upstage, undermine and discredit Barack just as she has done throughout the primaries.
Hillary has to understand that America has needs greater than hers. Barack must maintain that focus, not worry about two loose Clintons.
Putting her (and Bill) on the ticket would be a huge mistake.
Jack, forget the VP slot, Obama should just nominate her to the Supreme Court after winning the presidency. Clinton will then have she want- lifetime clout in politics and the chance to leave behind a well-established legacy.
I would hope that Obama would look at someone like Bill Richardson who has so much to offer America. His contacts with other nations, his energy plan and his view on the war are things that could help Obama. What a strong ticket this would be! I would think that Clinton has no chance.
Jack, Hilary can flex her muscles as long as she wants. But as long as Bill Clinton walks along with her, she will not be Barack Obama's running mate.
If Obama value's his life he won't take her on the ticket .. He would not only need a food taster for himself and his family but he would need to hire someone to start his car before he got in..
As a senior woman voter in Florida Hillary turn's my stomach for the manner in which she ran her campaign..
Check this out, Jack. I don't buy all this BS about HRC supporters not voting for Obama, sitting it out, or voting for Johnny McSame. The point is this: The sooner she steps down, the sooner she is going to back Obama and convince her followers to do the same. The party will unite way before November and any Democrat that sits out or votes for McCain should not call themselves a Democrat, but maybe a sexist or racist. We would be much better off if everyone could realize that our blood is all the same color.
Jack, the question should not be "can she?", but should she. The answer to your question is "NO", because Sen. Obama is smart enough to know that he's better off without her. And, "NO" to whether she should, because anyone who wants to help the party would have enough class to let him select his running mate, without forcing a shotgun wedding.
The only way she'll get the V P nod is with another tearful moment.
Hillary has seen the Light–"Halleluiah."
We do not want her (hillary clinton) on the ticket, she has too mant negatives, she represents the status quo in washington, a better choice would be Kathleen Sebilus governor of Kansas....
Just in democrats in florida going to court over seating delegates.. If Hillary manages to steal the nominee from Obamba, this is one voter that says obama supportes unite and vote for mccain
Senator Clinton with the help of her staff and supporters can muscle her onto the ticket. Now that Obama seemingly will be the nominee and her so many of her supporters saying they will not vote for him, makes her seem like the ideal candidate for the position to many. I don't agree with that, but I think she is very capable of using a strong arm tactic. He will not get my vote if that happens.
I f she is on the ticket, I won't vote for Obama anyway. I don't think he should be the president. And those calling us racists because we won't vote for BHO, are wrong. Sexism is worse than racism in this country. The ones voting for Obama. besides white young people, are liberlas/left who believe is time for a friendly well spoken black to be president because of past injustices. More white are voting for him, the ones that are making a lot of money, who called themselves well educated. It's not middle America.
Jack, I think the most important factor is what gives the late night comics the best ammo? I can't imagine a more hillarious combo than Obama/Clinton/Clinton in the White House. Throw in a few interns, and you've got an Emmy winning TV comedy series.
Hillary does not define change. this is yet another Clinton way of saying that they can do anything to anybody who gets in their way. Not this time. the Clinton's have drowned in what we call Obama tide. No way can she wrestle with this tide and succeed. The answer in NO
don't see why not, her comments on hard working class white folks did her well. as a black man who knows a lot of hard working class black folks, just wondering why she didn't mention them or has anyone else the blacks are just lump together. make you wonder. just asking.
Jack, I'm the woman the media projects as a Hillary supporter-white, late middle aged, "blue collar", single, and self-supporting. I have never been for Hillary. I simply don't trust her. For me, the invasion of Iraq and the destruction of America as I was raised to see it still remains at the top of my list of concerns. I will still vote for Obama, though, even with her as his running mate.
Why isn't anyone talking about the HUGE negatives that she brings. What about the high polarization as well? The Clintons have a humongous appetite for power. NEVER trust a CLINTON.. Please let me know if you find any non-Clinton supporter who will disagree with this.
Obama cannot function effectively with the Clintons intervening, the message of change will disappear in no time. Also many people are ignoring Clinton assuming that Obama is about the lock up the nomination. If she tries to mess with the rules of the process trying to come up with all sorts of new rules, almost one a day and even attempt to try to steal this nomination., the world will laugh the other way through and there will be devastating consequences..
Jack, If Hillary isn't nominated by her Party to be President, then yes, she would be a great VP – to John McCain. She is very smart, knows the ropes, and would be an asset to the country. In this day and age, why can't there be a two different party members be at the helm.
Why should she? She disagrees with Sen Obama on special interests and believes them to be good and wonderful for America. She even used a lobbyist to push her gas tax reduction scam. Today the oil company execs exhibited their crocodile tears at the hearings. They have the largest special interest groups in the USA. No Hilllary, American voters don't want you or Bill being able to influence the administration with your beliefs abouit special interests. Will Bill stop lobbying for Bush on the Colombia job killing trade deal?
Jack, I believe that this is precisely her aim now (contrary to some opinions that she will not condescend low to the second position in the presidency).
In the past several days (after it became obvious to her that she can no longer win the nomination) she has been trying to spit fire and raise hell in the Democratic Party. She is the one that flip-flopped on the rulling about Michigan and Florida and now, she is trying to steer up the voters in these two States against the Party.
Jack, thank you for your question. I will like to ask the entire nation two questions. (1) Does Hillary know how to obey laws, including when they are those of her Party? She should know as a lawyer that the "law is a blind ass" (2) Should Hillary continue to claim that she is a Democrat if she cannot obey the laws that are laid down the DNC? All members of the DNC were elected because they are believed to be competent to lead the Party and make decisions that would be fair and in the interest of democracy in the Party.
If Obama is not inclined to consider her for the position of VP, it is because he (Obama) and his advisers (many of whom are whites) feel it is what is best for the Party. So, for her to take the position of "do or die" depicts her as the rebel of the Party and she will destroy her legacy, that of her husband Bill, that of Chelsie and even that of the Democratic Party. It is like throwing away the bath with the baby in it.
Hillary may try to muscle her way through, but that would kill the party. If Obama has any sense, he will steer away from this. What she stands for undermines his central platform, which is change.
Hillary going to court for the Florida and Michigan votes is an error on her part that will alienate democrats who up until now may hold a positive opinion of her. This is becoming more and more about Hillary and less and less and less about the voters. Obama is clearly the nominee and we need to get behind him.
She should be for the party and support Obama now. Not the end of the month, not June 3 and certainly not August. Her hubris is getting on my nerves now.
Ron. Berlin, Germany (originally of Millville, NJ)
If she suspends her campaign, I think the Democratic leadership will give her anything she wants; the Vice Presidency, a promise to nominate her to the next supreme court vacancy, the cabinet position of her choice, or anything else she may think of. They just need this campaign to end.
Obama cannot function effectively with the Clintons intervening, the message of change will disappear in no time. Also many people are ignoring Clinton assuming that Obama is about the lock up the nomination. If she tries to mess with the rules of the process trying to come up with all sorts of new rules, almost one a day and even attempt to try to steal this nomination, the world will laugh the other way through and there will be devastating consequences.
She can only if the DNC changes the rules to satisfy her. In the game of life, the rules have never been fair to minorities. This government has made overtures to try and level the playing field, but there is still a long way to go. To allow Hillary to overturn the established rules and set her own standards based on whether she is winning or losing sets those efforts back to zero.
Senator Clinton won't need the VP slot. Many of the remaining undeclared superdelegates understand that Senator Obama is a mortally wounded candidate. He has lost 4 of the last 6 primaries since the Reverend Wright story.
I certainly hope not. It wouldn't just be Hillary – It would also be Bill. . There just wouldn't be one desk and chair in the Oval Office for President Obama, there would be three – one for Hillary and one for Bill. We need C H A N G E!!!!! We don't need another four or eight years of Clintons. Senator Obama is our chance for change.
Also why has NO ONE ever mentioned that Hillary does NOT wear a flag pen. Why hasn't that made news?
Also I sure wish I had the money she spends on all those pants suits. They are beautiful and well tailored, but I have never seen her wear a pant suit more than once. Oh well, those that have – get!!!!
I would hope not. Obama and his message is so refreshing and new, I would not want to see the Clinton's breathing down his neck all the time. She doesn't understand what he is all about. At one time in the past I may have considered her a great presidential condidate but since I have watched her behavior on the champaign trail I doubt if she is capable of taking a back seat to anyone. She's pushy, demanding, self-serving and nariscissistic.
Obama need someone who understands his philosophy. The Clinton's have had their chance, it's time to give Obama his due.
He's the democratic party's best choice and I'm sure whoever he selects for his running mate will be someone of integrity, whose beliefs will be in balance with those of Barack Obama.
As an interested observer from overseas, I find it remarkable that the Obama-Clinton ticket can even be talked about.
Firstly, Hillary seems to believe the White House is her second home which would lead to the slightly farcical situation of the President Obama being made to feel like a house-guest in the West Wing.
Secondly, she has done nothing but tear strips off Obama for the whole campaign. Mc Cain would save millions by just running adverts of Hillary's speeches as to why Obama wouldn't make a good President.
Finally, the Clinton brand is tarnished. Rather like Marmite, (a yeast extract sandwich spread) over here, you either love them or hate them and you can't attract an administration of all the talents as Obama has promised to do with such a divisive character in such a senior position.
McCain/Clinton... not Obama/Clinton.
She shouldn't have to "muscle her way" onto the ticket. She's earned it.
Hillary can try to muscle her way onto the ticket but Obama needs to reject her as a running mate. Anyway, why would she want to be on the ticket of someone she said is not qualified and has only given a speech? Seems she would be better suited to be McCain's running mate. She has turned this race into a battle of the races and if I were Obama, I would kick her ace to the curb.
I think she might try but I hope she does the respectable thing and gracefully drop out of the race and start telling her supports to vote Obama.
We will all have to wait and see how this plays out.
I believe that Hillary Clinton's New Theme song should be the Jennifer Hudson's song from Dreamgirls: "And Im Telling You,Im not going". This is ridiculous.
Jack- Just the way the question is posed shows the bias that exists against Hillary. Do you really think that she will try to "muscle" her way into the VP slot? There are many of us who feel having Hillary on the ticket is the only way to get us out to vote in November and unify the party. I certainly won't vote for McCain, but I just might not vote at all. Hillary has the experience and knows how to work for change. Senator Obama has great promises about change but I am not sure he can pull them off. Unless he actually is Superman, we are going to be very disappointed. If I have a toothache, I want to go to a dentist who has experience working on teeth, not just someone who has hope and thinks change can occur through that hope.
George Woodstock, Vermont
Jack all Senator Obama has to do is change his slogan from "change" to "what ever it takes"!!!!
The answer is no. Regardless of the Clinton attitude of entitlement to the whitehouse, Barack Obama and his advisors will not bow to the political arrogance of the Clintons. There are better female vp choices than Hilary. Janet Napolitano, although lesser known, is a better and less divisive choice. This is once again an attempt by the Clintons to attempt a political coup. Shame on them.
I think that most definitely an Obama/Clinton ticket is a sure win. It would unite the democratic party. There are some problems that could be cleared up as a result. Hillary's integrity is on the line. She should apologize to Obama and the citizens of the United States for playing dirty politics. She should state from her heart exactly why she would want to be VP, what vision that she and Obama share for the future. Also, Bill Clinton should stay out of the way of today's government.
No way should Hillary be on the ticket! Regardless of the close race in the Democratic Primaries, the winner is the winner and has the right to select his own running mate. Clinton on the ticket will be a negative not only for all those Democrats who chose Obama, but (more importantly) for Republicans and Independents who are mostly repulsed by Clinton, but willing to vote for change with Obama. The Clintons do not represent change. And no matter how her operatives package her, Hillary is not a unifier, as evident by her campaign's exploitation of the race issue.
With more votes than Obama, Hillary shouldn't have to muscle her way in....Why do they call it democracy, when the most votes from the people don't count....but dividing state delegates in a way that is confusing at best. Obama/Clinton ticket a sure lock-in for the Dems
Would rather see a Clinton/Obama ticket.
Let's hope not ! Hillary Hillary is old school and comes with baggage, namely Bill ! We don't need them competing with Obama for eight years. The Obame presidency would be severly handicapped.
NO there is a reason that there is such a long drawn out fight for the nomination and it is not so that one of them can be the VP. There must be a good connection between the President and the VP. The country is voting for who they want to be in the president chair. If something were to happen to the president the VP is there to take the ropes in such a situation. The people must remember this when it comes to picking the VP. The VP is someone who can continue the presidents agenda in the right way instead of making it their own and given the person Hillary is she would not be suitable for the job.
I certainly hope not. There are many others who can fill that slot and do not come with the history & baggage of Hillary. You can't offer a new hope for change in politics with someone who voted for this war and has yet to apologize for it. Hillary continues to fudge facts and numbers to bolster her own campaign, perhaps at the expense of her own party.
No she cannot muscles her way into the V.P spot. For some odd reason people believe Barack Obama owes Hilary Clinton. She hasn't proven to me that she deserves to be president or V.P. She's ran a campaign based on lies and being manipulative. She's said anything to get where she is now and will do the same to get the V.P nomination. Not only will this be a disappointment to me as a first time voter looking for "Change" but it will make me second guess if the presidential campaignin is chosen by the people or popularity contest (because of her name Clinton).
Yes, she is pulling out all of her big guns. I sure hope Obama has a cannon ready for her. Personally, I'm sick and tired of her. Hillary has shown her true colors by lying repeatedly. Why don't she just go away!
No I think she's after the democratic nomination or alternatively, as VP on the REPUBLICAN ticket.
Indeed she has said that McCain is more qualified to lead the country than Obama and she's a master at switching her alliances on a dime.
Behind closed doors, I am willing to bet that she is telling the super delegates, "look, either you give me the democratic nomination, or I will run as VP on the McCain ticket." and why not? The have the same hawkish voting records on foreign policy. They both are darlings to special interests and NAFTA advocates.
A McCain/Clinton ticket is beneficial to McCain since has no hope to win the general election otherwise. Clinton would bring him far more female votes and Reagan democrats than the ones he would lose from the republican base.
Can Anyone say McCain Clinton 2008
Jack, Hillary does't have to muscle her way to V.P. Obama will be better if he picks one who shares his vision of change in his way of governance especially in doing away with lobbyists. He needs one who is clean but has the qualities that can attract the Clinton supporters. I still think that the best position that Hillary can take is that of Secretary of State or that of an Ambassador or maybe a Justice of the Supreme Court.
No, Hillary can’t muscle her way on to the ticket. But if Obama was as smart as he claims to be, he would at least offer it to her. After all it is not about just Obama or Clinton, but the American people! McCain already doesn’t have much of a chance, and if he picks her up it would be a done deal- like putting icing on the cake.
If I werre Hillary, I would not want to work with or be anywhere near Senator Obama.
He should be begging Hillary for be the VP if he had any smarts.
She doesn't have to "muscle" way in, he should be darn glad to have her if she would accept it. I don't thing she will, it's simply beneath her.
Clinton likely could muscle her way onto the VP ticket. But I don't think she'd go that far; being strong and resistant is one thing, but to force that sort of leverage would be very destructive and, quite frankly, annoying. She can sometimes feel abrasive, but I think she is too confident and proud to demand a role like that - she'd rather it presented to her on a silver platter.
British Columbia, Canada
I see Obama going all the way
Jack Hepfer, Stanwood, Wash.
God I hope not!
If Mr. Obama wins, its his judgement and his call. She is the epitome of the Washington politics he railed against; and worse, she brings Bill with her. If Mr. Obama knows early that he doesn't want her, he should announce his choice early, which will make it impossible for her to muscle her way in. As for me, I like an Obama-Granholm ticket. I don't think I would vote for an Obama-Clinton ticket.
Hillary Clinton says she knows how Washington works. She represents the corrupt face of politics. As VP she along with Bill would constantly try to usurp Obama. For those who believe in Obama's message Clinton is simply unacceptable.
Then the whole November' election will be all over again about the Clintons. Wait a minute, for about two decades, all elections held in our country have been about Clinton and Bush. I thought this election was all about change!
PLEASE, I hope not!! We have had 28 years with a Bush or a Clinton as president or vice president. Enough! Time to clean house (the White House) and start over.
The reaction against her has nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with Clinton fatigue.
Hillary has the tenacity to try but I know that Barack will muscle her out. diplomatically.
The better choice on the ticket would be Kathleen Sebilus governor of Kansas
Obama will prove to be a true leader and say NO to Hillary on the ticket. He can't be muscled and be presidential at the same time. With her it is a bad team, and Obama should and must say no. If she is on the ticket, I will NOT vote for them!! I have never voted for a Clinton and I won't start now!!
I am an Obama Supporter However i will vote againts this man if Hillary is on the ticket,
No, Hillary would polarize his ticket for she doesn't represent CHANGE in Washington politics.
Hillary will not stand down to anything, until the Super Delegates stand up.
Hillary has undermined Barack's chances of winning.
Her designs are on the Presidency.
She won't be V.P. because she will try to run again in 2012.
Hillary will not stand down, until the Super Delegates stand up.
Hillary as VP. She wants to change the rules of the Democratic Party to suit her purpose. If she becomes VP what's to stop her from playing around with the constitutation to feed her ego? We already have a VP who is doing that.
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