Comments on: “Bitter” Democratic fight http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/ Tell Jack how you really feel Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:00:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Mark http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-236070 Mark Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:06:24 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-236070 No, i dont think it will harm him.., In my opinion he is right with his comments! "Elitist"? ridiculous... And if Hillary" i don't drop out, even if i can't win" Clinton goes on to attack him with his comments, it will harm her, rather than it harms him... Mark, Manheim No, i dont think it will harm him.., In my opinion he is right with his comments!

"Elitist"? ridiculous...
And if Hillary" i don't drop out, even if i can't win" Clinton goes on to attack him with his comments, it will harm her, rather than it harms him...

Mark, Manheim

]]> By: Jim http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235668 Jim Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:20:43 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235668 Incredibly damaging, Mr. Cafferty. Sen. Obama knows little to nothing about life outside of his circle of friends and he was unable to charm his way out of this most recent gaffe. On a couple of related notes, Why did it take so long for this story to hit the mainstream media? Why is it that CNN and other mainstream media always seem to get "scooped" when it comes to reporting damaging Obama news? I know he seems to be a nice guy and hasn't been around long enough to build a record that anyone could actually analyze, but why are so many of our media members ready to annoint Sen. Obama? Incredibly damaging, Mr. Cafferty. Sen. Obama knows little to nothing about life outside of his circle of friends and he was unable to charm his way out of this most recent gaffe. On a couple of related notes, Why did it take so long for this story to hit the mainstream media? Why is it that CNN and other mainstream media always seem to get "scooped" when it comes to reporting damaging Obama news? I know he seems to be a nice guy and hasn't been around long enough to build a record that anyone could actually analyze, but why are so many of our media members ready to annoint Sen. Obama?

]]> By: Billy Stokes http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235626 Billy Stokes Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:18:47 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235626 Besides Hillary and talking heads, no once seems to have noticed the remarks. Hillary has once again overplayed her hand, more a symbol of her own conceit than that of others. The Clinton campaign seems to repeatedly give definition to the term "ham-handed" in their response to events. Knoxville, Tn. Billy Stokes Besides Hillary and talking heads, no once seems to have noticed the remarks. Hillary has once again overplayed her hand, more a symbol of her own conceit than that of others. The Clinton campaign seems to repeatedly give definition to the term "ham-handed" in their response to events.

Knoxville, Tn.
Billy Stokes

]]> By: Ron Christman http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235625 Ron Christman Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:18:46 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235625 Barack Obama gets it and those of us who are living it appreciate that he does no matter how hard the media and opposing politicians try to distort his vision. You and his opponents like to talk about how well he speaks but what you miss is that he listens even better. Barack Obama doesn’t just listen to the words when he is talking with people; he hears the feeling behind the words. Barack Obama doesn’t just listen to one or two sentences but the whole story. That is the reason that he is the one candidate who gives us hope that our long felt bitterness about our leaders in Washington will go away as change really happens. Get out your map of Pennsylvania and I’ll show you where you can go to find out how much Barack Obama understands about small town working class people. He understands exactly how the guys feel in Beechies Bar in Meadowlands when they talk over a beer about the machine shop jobs being shipped overseas. He hears the bitterness. He knows where the former coal miners who meet on the street in Washington are coming from when they avoid talking about their current jobs that pay one-third the salary of their former jobs. He hears the mistrust of government. Obama knows what the college graduate from Mount Pleasant thinks about the $60,000.00 in student loan debt she is facing with her fiancé as they realize their options for the future are much smaller than they hoped. He hears the disappointment when they talk. Obama knows how the family feels about their college student who has to pay his own expenses because his parents had to close their family restaurant and now his father is fighting cancer with no disability income. He may not have heard the same stories that I have but he has listened well enough to the stories that he has heard that he knows the true underlying feelings. Yes, Obama knows what he is talking about and he said it right. I can give you examples of people in towns from Carmichaels to Picture Rocks that tell me that Obama is right on the mark and any politician, pundit or journalist who tries to make a big deal about the words he used is just flat out wrong. Any politician, pundit or journalist who parses his words to tailor “the issue” into a misstatement is doing a hatchet job on Barack Obama and by ignoring the overall concept of his discussion is doing the same disservice to the American people that has been going on for years to the people of Western Pennsylvania. Hillary Clinton is an old time politician who doesn’t get it. Where are the jobs she promised to Upstate New York when she ran for the U. S. Senate. Where is the healthcare reform that she and her husband promised during his first term. The reality is that she is the one person most responsible for the terrible healthcare available to small town Pennsylvanians because of her arrogance and inability to work with people. If she can’t listen to the people involved in a problem how can she listen to the people who are dependent upon the politicians they elect to solve problems for them. How can she be trusted to do what she says she will do when her husband and her number one advisor are both working for the very economic treaty that she says she is against. Senator McClain doesn’t get it. He is a true American hero who deserves only the best because of what he endured in Viet Nam. But it’s pretty clear that his concepts of international trade are formed more by the high thread count on the Egyptian cotton sheets that his wife’s inheritance buys than by the Pennsylvania jobs lost to China, India, and Taiwan. He is more of President Bush and the elitist Neo-Cons who have no clue what working class people are going through. McClain is just a clueless about the economy as he is about the war Iraq and he has no idea what working class people are thinking. Most of all the pundits on the cable news networks don’t get it. Some claim to be from Pennsylvania but the Mon Valley is a long way from Philadelphia. Hanging out in Amish country is a long way from Altoona, Meadville, and Brownsville. They don’t get it because they are too busy talking to listen to anyone. I am so tired of “news shows” parsing statements so they can spend hours haranguing us with their analysis of 3-4 words instead of finding out the facts behind the story and then actually discussing the real issues. In recent weeks both Obama and Clinton have given major speeches on the economy, the war, and energy and the coverage has been miniscule. But we’ll hear endless discussion of parsed “mis-statements”! Obama gets it. Based on the hullabaloo and the things I have heard on your show and others it is obvious that the old politicians, pundits, and journalists have no clue. Barack Obama gets it and those of us who are living it appreciate that he does no matter how hard the media and opposing politicians try to distort his vision. You and his opponents like to talk about how well he speaks but what you miss is that he listens even better. Barack Obama doesn’t just listen to the words when he is talking with people; he hears the feeling behind the words. Barack Obama doesn’t just listen to one or two sentences but the whole story. That is the reason that he is the one candidate who gives us hope that our long felt bitterness about our leaders in Washington will go away as change really happens.

Get out your map of Pennsylvania and I’ll show you where you can go to find out how much Barack Obama understands about small town working class people. He understands exactly how the guys feel in Beechies Bar in Meadowlands when they talk over a beer about the machine shop jobs being shipped overseas. He hears the bitterness. He knows where the former coal miners who meet on the street in Washington are coming from when they avoid talking about their current jobs that pay one-third the salary of their former jobs. He hears the mistrust of government. Obama knows what the college graduate from Mount Pleasant thinks about the $60,000.00 in student loan debt she is facing with her fiancé as they realize their options for the future are much smaller than they hoped. He hears the disappointment when they talk. Obama knows how the family feels about their college student who has to pay his own expenses because his parents had to close their family restaurant and now his father is fighting cancer with no disability income. He may not have heard the same stories that I have but he has listened well enough to the stories that he has heard that he knows the true underlying feelings.

Yes, Obama knows what he is talking about and he said it right. I can give you examples of people in towns from Carmichaels to Picture Rocks that tell me that Obama is right on the mark and any politician, pundit or journalist who tries to make a big deal about the words he used is just flat out wrong. Any politician, pundit or journalist who parses his words to tailor “the issue” into a misstatement is doing a hatchet job on Barack Obama and by ignoring the overall concept of his discussion is doing the same disservice to the American people that has been going on for years to the people of Western Pennsylvania.

Hillary Clinton is an old time politician who doesn’t get it. Where are the jobs she promised to Upstate New York when she ran for the U. S. Senate. Where is the healthcare reform that she and her husband promised during his first term. The reality is that she is the one person most responsible for the terrible healthcare available to small town Pennsylvanians because of her arrogance and inability to work with people. If she can’t listen to the people involved in a problem how can she listen to the people who are dependent upon the politicians they elect to solve problems for them. How can she be trusted to do what she says she will do when her husband and her number one advisor are both working for the very economic treaty that she says she is against.

Senator McClain doesn’t get it. He is a true American hero who deserves only the best because of what he endured in Viet Nam. But it’s pretty clear that his concepts of international trade are formed more by the high thread count on the Egyptian cotton sheets that his wife’s inheritance buys than by the Pennsylvania jobs lost to China, India, and Taiwan. He is more of President Bush and the elitist Neo-Cons who have no clue what working class people are going through. McClain is just a clueless about the economy as he is about the war Iraq and he has no idea what working class people are thinking.

Most of all the pundits on the cable news networks don’t get it. Some claim to be from Pennsylvania but the Mon Valley is a long way from Philadelphia. Hanging out in Amish country is a long way from Altoona, Meadville, and Brownsville. They don’t get it because they are too busy talking to listen to anyone. I am so tired of “news shows” parsing statements so they can spend hours haranguing us with their analysis of 3-4 words instead of finding out the facts behind the story and then actually discussing the real issues.

In recent weeks both Obama and Clinton have given major speeches on the economy, the war, and energy and the coverage has been miniscule. But we’ll hear endless discussion of parsed “mis-statements”!

Obama gets it. Based on the hullabaloo and the things I have heard on your show and others it is obvious that the old politicians, pundits, and journalists have no clue.

]]> By: Denise http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235575 Denise Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:16:15 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235575 I am not offended by Senator Obama's comment. I AM bitter and frustrated. I live in a mid-size city in the mid-west. I have not had a cost of living raise nor a merit raise in 7 years. Food prices are out of control and gas prices are outrages. In fact, I'm passed bitter and frustrated. I'm almost hopeless that the poor and middle class citizens will survive. Is this population control?! I am not offended by Senator Obama's comment. I AM bitter and frustrated. I live in a mid-size city in the mid-west. I have not had a cost of living raise nor a merit raise in 7 years. Food prices are out of control and gas prices are outrages. In fact, I'm passed bitter and frustrated. I'm almost hopeless that the poor and middle class citizens will survive. Is this population control?!

]]> By: david http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235550 david Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:14:08 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235550 It shouldn't! i'm very bitter myself! after watching these "experienced" politicians for the last 8 yrs., how much worst could it get if we just started from scratch!? they have done nothing but line the pockets of fat cats and themselves ( from the war, i might add). whilse ignoring 950 + lies, they do nothing while the constitution is being destroyed! a recent article says that even though we can petition the government for redress, they don't have to respond! i say its time for a solidarity movement in this country... withhold your tax dollars ( granted in the constitution) until this madness stops! It shouldn't! i'm very bitter myself! after watching these "experienced" politicians for the last 8 yrs., how much worst could it get if we just started from scratch!? they have done nothing but line the pockets of fat cats and themselves ( from the war, i might add). whilse ignoring 950 + lies, they do nothing while the constitution is being destroyed! a recent article says that even though we can petition the government for redress, they don't have to respond! i say its time for a solidarity movement in this country... withhold your tax dollars ( granted in the constitution) until this madness
stops!

]]> By: Elaine Spencer http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235526 Elaine Spencer Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:12:53 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235526 April 14th, 2008 4:59 pm ET Your comment is awaiting moderation. Barack Obama’s remarks about small town attitudes in Pennsylvania simply reflect what Lou Dobbs at CNN has been saying all along. Many middle class Americans are suffering and feel angry. Anger is a mask for fear. Understandably they probably do feel bitter…. for heaven’s sake….they feel they have been sold out by our government. People do cling to their religious faith as a source of strength to persevere through hard times. It is absurd to find fault with that. This is a tragic example of political spin. Obama’s opponents and the media are deliberately creating discord for their own selfish interests. They are insulting the intelligence of all critical thinking persons. Houston, Texas April 14th, 2008 4:59 pm ET
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Barack Obama’s remarks about small town attitudes in Pennsylvania simply reflect what Lou Dobbs at CNN has been saying all along.

Many middle class Americans are suffering and feel angry. Anger is a mask for fear. Understandably they probably do feel bitter…. for heaven’s sake….they feel they have been sold out by our government.

People do cling to their religious faith as a source of strength to persevere through hard times. It is absurd to find fault with that. This is a tragic example of political spin.

Obama’s opponents and the media are deliberately creating discord for their own selfish interests. They are insulting the intelligence of all critical thinking persons.

Houston, Texas

]]> By: John Musewicz http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235524 John Musewicz Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:12:44 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235524 Why wouldn't blue collar voters be bitter about the Clintons' NAFTA consequences? The fact that we all cling to the familiar, like family and church, when bitter, angry and frustrated is very human. Instead of taking responsibility for her actions that have contributed to the recession (like the expense of the war she voted for without reading the intelligence reports), does Senator Clinton think she can disguise her failures by criticizing the messenger who describes the bitterness to which her actions directly contributed? Why wouldn't blue collar voters be bitter about the Clintons' NAFTA consequences? The fact that we all cling to the familiar, like family and church, when bitter, angry and frustrated is very human. Instead of taking responsibility for her actions that have contributed to the recession (like the expense of the war she voted for without reading the intelligence reports), does Senator Clinton think she can disguise her failures by criticizing the messenger who describes the bitterness to which her actions directly contributed?

]]> By: Emmanuel http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235464 Emmanuel Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:08:59 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235464 Obama has worked with and worked for those who have lost jobs, those who have lost homes, those who find themselves in financial dire striats. Obama knows that people are bitter and angry when they are afraid of their future and the future of their children. Why are his comments so difficult to comprehend by Millionaire Clintons and Mccain?. Because these two are the ones who are out of touch with the suffering of peoples. People in America's small and big cities are not upset with Obama, they know that Obama spoke the truth, they know that Obama is on their side. How can Hillary Clinton explain her position on the Columbia trade deal when her household made money in it. Husband Bill got $800,000 and Mark Penn got $300,0000. Hopefuly she can explain that in the debate wednesday evening. Obama has worked with and worked for those who have lost jobs, those who have lost homes, those who find themselves in financial dire striats. Obama knows that people are bitter and angry when they are afraid of their future and the future of their children. Why are his comments so difficult to comprehend by Millionaire Clintons and Mccain?. Because these two are the ones who are out of touch with the suffering of peoples.

People in America's small and big cities are not upset with Obama, they know that Obama spoke the truth, they know that Obama is on their side.

How can Hillary Clinton explain her position on the Columbia trade deal when her household made money in it. Husband Bill got $800,000 and Mark Penn got $300,0000. Hopefuly she can explain that in the debate wednesday evening.

]]> By: michelle http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/04/14/%e2%80%9cbitter%e2%80%9d-democratic-fight/#comment-235410 michelle Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:06:18 +0000 http://cnncaffertyfile.wordpress.com/?p=310#comment-235410 He's right. Obama's right. We are bitter against our government. We've lost so much faith in the system. There have been so many lies and cover ups it's not even funny. Politics have been all about dishonest people stepping on everyone they have to, to get to the top. We're promised the moon and the stars and all we get is a small rebate check that might pay for a month of gas. We need something to hope for in this awful time of war and recession. I'm sorry but all this bickering and fighting amongst our politicians aren't going to get us anywhere. I'm actually tired of hearing them argue about things that really don't matter. He's right. Obama's right. We are bitter against our government. We've lost so much faith in the system. There have been so many lies and cover ups it's not even funny. Politics have been all about dishonest people stepping on everyone they have to, to get to the top. We're promised the moon and the stars and all we get is a small rebate check that might pay for a month of gas. We need something to hope for in this awful time of war and recession. I'm sorry but all this bickering and fighting amongst our politicians aren't going to get us anywhere. I'm actually tired of hearing them argue about things that really don't matter.

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