Comments on: Should Michigan, Florida be silenced? http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/ Tell Jack how you really feel Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:00:35 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: “Selected”, not “Elected”?? « NObama - Not Now, Not Ever http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-490928 “Selected”, not “Elected”?? « NObama - Not Now, Not Ever Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:46:35 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-490928 [...] and Michigan delegation dispute may have benefited Senator Clinton’s campaign, the DNC stuck to its decision to strip both states of all delegates.   At the end of May, the DNC decided to award half-votes [...] [...] and Michigan delegation dispute may have benefited Senator Clinton's campaign, the DNC stuck to its decision to strip both states of all delegates.   At the end of May, the DNC decided to award half-votes [...]

]]> By: Tim http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-130384 Tim Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:41:32 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-130384 They changed the rules, and they are being punished for it, as they should. Those states removed themselves from the process. If you live i that state, maybe you should direct your anger to the people that made the decision to remove you from the delegate process. If they want to re-vote and do it properly, only then should the be allowed back into the process. And yes, you do get do overs. sometime a re-vote is the only way to deal with the situation. 2000 is one example where there should ahve been a re-vote instead of going outside the process to get your way. They changed the rules, and they are being punished for it, as they should.

Those states removed themselves from the process. If you live i that state, maybe you should direct your anger to the people that made the decision to remove you from the delegate process.

If they want to re-vote and do it properly, only then should the be allowed back into the process.

And yes, you do get do overs. sometime a re-vote is the only way to deal with the situation. 2000 is one example where there should ahve been a re-vote instead of going outside the process to get your way.

]]> By: Kate http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-130379 Kate Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:41:24 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-130379 Hey wait a minute... if Hillary gets her way she will be just like George Bush. Remember Florida eight years ago, Gore would be our president now and maybe we would all be in better shape if things had been fair. So will Florida once again decide our nation's fate? If so I definitely think that none of their delegates should count look what a mess they stuck us with before. Hey wait a minute... if Hillary gets her way she will be just like George Bush. Remember Florida eight years ago, Gore would be our president now and maybe we would all be in better shape if things had been fair.

So will Florida once again decide our nation's fate? If so I definitely think that none of their delegates should count look what a mess they stuck us with before.

]]> By: James Fogle, Lakewood OH http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-130378 James Fogle, Lakewood OH Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:41:23 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-130378 The voters in Florida and Michigan should not be punished for a decision about the primary date that was beyond their control. However, a revote will cost the DNC a great deal of money that could be put to better use in the General Election. I can understand not counting the first Michigan vote, since Obama took his name off the ballot (even though it was his decision to do so). I don't, however, understand why the vote in Florida should not be counted EXACTLY AS IT STANDS. Voters had equal choice to vote for Clinton, Obama, or Edwards. The fact that Obama chose to ignore the voters in Florida is his problem. If your campaign is about "bringing everyone together" it seems peculiar to leave out the people of our nation's 4th most populated state; delegates or no delates! A revote in Michigan would still cost the DNC a considerable amount of money, but is the only fair thing to do for the voters in Michigan. It would be a great shame to deny millions of voters in Florida and Michigan the chance to cast their vote. Whatever the outcome of the election, it is awesome to see democrats get passionate about voting again! Will we be able to keep this passion alive (and ultimately beat the republicans in November) by ignoring all these people? The voters in Florida and Michigan should not be punished for a decision about the primary date that was beyond their control. However, a revote will cost the DNC a great deal of money that could be put to better use in the General Election. I can understand not counting the first Michigan vote, since Obama took his name off the ballot (even though it was his decision to do so). I don't, however, understand why the vote in Florida should not be counted EXACTLY AS IT STANDS. Voters had equal choice to vote for Clinton, Obama, or Edwards. The fact that Obama chose to ignore the voters in Florida is his problem. If your campaign is about "bringing everyone together" it seems peculiar to leave out the people of our nation's 4th most populated state; delegates or no delates! A revote in Michigan would still cost the DNC a considerable amount of money, but is the only fair thing to do for the voters in Michigan. It would be a great shame to deny millions of voters in Florida and Michigan the chance to cast their vote. Whatever the outcome of the election, it is awesome to see democrats get passionate about voting again! Will we be able to keep this passion alive (and ultimately beat the republicans in November) by ignoring all these people?

]]> By: Jason - Medina, Ohio http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129471 Jason - Medina, Ohio Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:21:17 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129471 None really. This is about a political parties primary. Political parties can make-up whatever rules they wish to nominate an individual for President. Michigan and Florida didn't play by the rules that were set (go figure!) and should be left out. What would it say about the process to change the rules before it was all over? Obama and Clinton should stick to the issues at hand, Clinton should stop complaining, and look ahead to the remaining states who have not voted. Besides, Lincoln won the general election for President and he wasn't even on the ballot in five states. None really. This is about a political parties primary. Political parties can make-up whatever rules they wish to nominate an individual for President. Michigan and Florida didn't play by the rules that were set (go figure!) and should be left out. What would it say about the process to change the rules before it was all over? Obama and Clinton should stick to the issues at hand, Clinton should stop complaining, and look ahead to the remaining states who have not voted. Besides, Lincoln won the general election for President and he wasn't even on the ballot in five states.

]]> By: Michael http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129390 Michael Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:20:22 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129390 Both national parties warned Florida and Michigan what would happen if they moved their primaries up, and yet the state legislatures still voted to do so. Now, the states want to complain that it's not fair. If it's not fair, then they shouldn't have voted for it, and redoing the election or adding the delegates now that only one candidate ran doesn't make it fair. Both national parties warned Florida and Michigan what would happen if they moved their primaries up, and yet the state legislatures still voted to do so. Now, the states want to complain that it's not fair. If it's not fair, then they shouldn't have voted for it, and redoing the election or adding the delegates now that only one candidate ran doesn't make it fair.

]]> By: Eric Taylor from Michigan http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129391 Eric Taylor from Michigan Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:20:22 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129391 I am a registered Michigan voter, and I want my state to my represented in the Democratic and Republican Conventions as much as any other Michigan citizen. However, what I do not want to give my pledged delegates to someone who obviously broke Democratic Party rules by keeping her name on the ballot. The Democratic Candidates agreed to not campaign or even keep their names on our ballot, but alas, Hillary was the only major candidate to keep her name there, and on top of that, didn't she rally in Florida on the day of their primary? So is it really fair to just give delegates who obviously cheated? Well, if Michigan and Florida play a truly critical role in the DNC, I am willing to give up my tax dollars for a fair and honest redo of the primary or a caucus (I prefer the caucus personally). But if Howard Dean loves cheaters, then go ahead and just give the delegates to Clinton. I am a registered Michigan voter, and I want my state to my represented in the Democratic and Republican Conventions as much as any other Michigan citizen. However, what I do not want to give my pledged delegates to someone who obviously broke Democratic Party rules by keeping her name on the ballot. The Democratic Candidates agreed to not campaign or even keep their names on our ballot, but alas, Hillary was the only major candidate to keep her name there, and on top of that, didn't she rally in Florida on the day of their primary? So is it really fair to just give delegates who obviously cheated? Well, if Michigan and Florida play a truly critical role in the DNC, I am willing to give up my tax dollars for a fair and honest redo of the primary or a caucus (I prefer the caucus personally). But if Howard Dean loves cheaters, then go ahead and just give the delegates to Clinton.

]]> By: Kelly http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129392 Kelly Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:20:22 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129392 First, I am reading everyone complain that Clinton is behind this. Of course she would like it to stand, she won. If it were Obama, he would be fighting the same fight. Stop trying to lay blame and let's fix the problem so the people in those states get a fair say. Solutions, remember! Secondly, I am reading how this is like punishing a child and letting the child out of the punishment. Let us not forget that it was a Republican Governor who moved up the date so lets punish all the democrats. Realize that ones getting punished are the ones who voted not the ones who moved up the date. I think Florida's votes should stand since all the names were on the ballot and Obama was the only one who campaigned there by running ads. Michigan should have a redo with both names on the ballot. I understand it is a costly process so why doesn't the DNC do an online fundraiser to help the good people of Michigan do this new vote? First, I am reading everyone complain that Clinton is behind this. Of course she would like it to stand, she won. If it were Obama, he would be fighting the same fight. Stop trying to lay blame and let's fix the problem so the people in those states get a fair say. Solutions, remember!

Secondly, I am reading how this is like punishing a child and letting the child out of the punishment. Let us not forget that it was a Republican Governor who moved up the date so lets punish all the democrats. Realize that ones getting punished are the ones who voted not the ones who moved up the date. I think Florida's votes should stand since all the names were on the ballot and Obama was the only one who campaigned there by running ads. Michigan should have a redo with both names on the ballot. I understand it is a costly process so why doesn't the DNC do an online fundraiser to help the good people of Michigan do this new vote?

]]> By: Nich Anderson http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129389 Nich Anderson Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:20:21 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129389 Oh Florida - always in the political news. Yes, their voices should be heard somehow - it's just not right to silence all those voices ever but of course what those voices have to say is especially interesting in this tight race. Oh Florida – always in the political news.
Yes, their voices should be heard somehow –
it's just not right to silence all those voices ever
but of course what those voices have to say
is especially interesting in this tight race.

]]> By: eric http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129377 eric Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:20:16 +0000 http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/03/05/role-for-florida-michigan-in-democratic-race/#comment-129377 jack florida and michigan,s should deligate should be split even and send to the convention what a shame mrs clinton dirty tricks you will never learn..eric jack florida and michigan,s should deligate should be split even and send to the convention what a shame mrs clinton dirty tricks you will never learn..eric

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