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January 24th, 2008
05:50 PM ET

Giuliani’s gamble?

 Click the play button to see what Jack and our viewers had to say.<br />

Click the play button to see what Jack and our viewers had to say.

FROM CNN's Jack Cafferty:

Rudy Giuliani is slipping in the state considered "crucial" to his presidential chances.

An average of three polls taken in Florida show Giuliani in third place. John McCain and Mitt Romney are neck-and-neck at 27% and 25%. Giuliani is way back at 16%... practically tied with Mike Huckabee, who gets 15%. It's looking more and more like Giuliani's dream of being president is headed for the scrap heap. Two months ago Giuliani was the prohibitive favorite in Florida at 38% to 17% for Mitt Romney and 11% for John McCain.

One pollster is quoted by the Miami Herald saying Giuliani has "virtually no chance to win in Florida." Another says, "If he can't make it there in Florida, he can't make it anywhere." Guess the words of that famous song don't always ring true. And Florida is winner take all…if you don't finish first you don't get a single delegate.

Giuliani's campaign, of course, disputes all this, insisting he'll win. He argues his message just needs a little more time to sink in.

It's really quite stunning. Giuliani was the national front-runner for months. In a decision that strategists will probably talk about for years to come, he chose to virtually ignore the early states. Huge mistake. He goes into Florida 0 for 6 in states that have already voted. And, apparently the people in Florida don't like a loser, either.

If Giuliani loses in Florida on Tuesday, it could be the beginning of a collapse that will go down in history… since he won't have the momentum going into Super Tuesday. You know, kind of like he hasn't had any momentum coming out of Iowa, New Hampshire, Wyoming, Nevada, Michigan or South Carolina.

Here’s my question to you: What went wrong for Rudy Giuliani?

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Delane writes:
To quote Joe Biden; "A noun, a verb, and 9/11." Best analysis of Rudy since he joined the race!

Michael in Fountain Inn, South Carolina:
Rudy's problems began the day he decided to run. He was always perceived as a single issue candidate, and unfortunately for him, that issue wasn't the economy.

Ed writes:
Jack, Rudy was known initially as a solid crime fighter and, most including I believed, a political moderate. But then he went pro-Bush, pro-Iraq war, and hawkish to the right side of the bald eagle (pun intended). That's when I wrote him off - we don't want another Bush rubber-stamp clone.

Jon from Tempe, Arizona writes:
Giuliani had the deck stacked against him. The arcane process that we have for primaries in this country put all of the states that Giuliani could not win ahead of him. I honestly believe if we would have a national primary in this country Giuliani would have been the nominee.

David writes:
Nothing went wrong. Just like any election, the voters get to know the candidates. Rudy is not a likeable person, he has no foreign policy experience, and he is a horrible speaker and debater. The Republicans have no one that fits the bill exactly, but he came up short time and time again.

Alain writes:
Too bad. He should have seen that little cartoon about the turtle and the rabbit. The one opportunity the States had burned to a crisp.

David writes:
Rudy mistakenly believed after 2000 that Florida determines who the president is instead of campaigning in the other 49 states.


Filed under: Florida Primary
soundoff (159 Responses)
  1. kevin

    the only person here who should be worried about gambling on anything is McCain. he owes 100,000's dollars to las vegas casinos for his gambling problems

    January 24, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  2. Amnesty is Treason

    RUDY!

    January 24, 2008 at 2:34 pm |
  3. Ralph

    Giuliani's no dope, Jack. He is banking that we will get so tired of hearing the bickering and pandering of those "front line" candidates that he will get the last hurrah as the country unites behind him. I have heard too many predictions that went flat (remember New Hampshire?); I'll wait until we jear the results in the Florioda GOP primary before making the final call.

    January 24, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
  4. Scott

    He placed his bets on where to participate in the wrong places – While he was positioning the american people were deciding – That with the fact he is not the wonder boy of 9/11 coming to lite puts him out of the race.

    January 24, 2008 at 2:40 pm |
  5. Bill, Quarryville, Pennsylvania

    He simply screwed up. I am glad he will not be our next president, if this is the way he runs a campaign just imagine how he would have run our country.

    January 24, 2008 at 2:41 pm |
  6. Michael Coogen, Lorton, Virginia

    What went wrong for Rudy Giuliani?

    He underestimated the American voter and America is not ready for his liberalistic visions.

    January 24, 2008 at 2:44 pm |
  7. Thomas, FL

    As Mr. Biden said, Rudy's entire campaign platform was "a noun, a verb, and 9/11." Over time, people wised up to this and realized he has nothing to offer. Now let's just hope he drops out before Super Tuesday so he won't take any votes from the real candidates.

    January 24, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
  8. Cole

    What is there to like about Giuliani? He lies about everything, protects illegal immigrants, rides a national tragedy for momentum, cheats on his wife using taxpayer's money, supports the Real ID Act and looks like Nasferatu after a stroke. It boggles my mind that he has as much support as he does.

    January 24, 2008 at 2:49 pm |
  9. Diane

    Well, I think it started when all of the candidates went west to Iowa – and he went south to Florida. Who was out to lunch when that decision was made?

    Remind me not to gamble with that guy.

    January 24, 2008 at 2:50 pm |
  10. Chris

    Jack,
    Iowa, New Hampshire, Wyoming, Michigan, and South Carolina Jack. His "so-called" Florida strategy is working so well if he hurries up Fred Thompson can help him with the door that seems too have closed on their bid to be the President.

    January 24, 2008 at 2:51 pm |
  11. Jim

    Once he came south, he started attracting "circle flies". You know, the kind that horses and cows are always ficking at with their tails!

    Jim
    Prosperity SC

    January 24, 2008 at 2:57 pm |
  12. Jeff K.

    Rudy knew he wouldn't ring true for the centrists and more faith based population in the Midwest, not to mention the evangelical south. He also knew Mitt would be the hometown favorite in MI, and stood no chance in NV, so he figured he would try to hit the big win in Fla. where many New Yorkers are retired and be able to make up the delegates he "passed on" in the earlier primaries and caucases thus being able to catch up in the race with a lot less work. Trouble is, many people don't like being ignored or considered unimportant enough to be passed by in lieu of bigger fish. It shows it's all about Rudy and winning, not about the people in this country. That attitude will put Rudy in third place next Tuesday. When all the dust clears and the Fla. primary is over so too shall be the bid of Rudy for President..

    January 24, 2008 at 2:59 pm |
  13. Terry

    Jack
    Rudy took a chance and lost, he should have been there in Iowa, New Hampshire, Vegas and South Carolina. To put all his focus on Florida and think that this will put him back on top was foolish, The other canidates with their hard campaigning in the opening round paid off and left Rudy in the dust.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:00 pm |
  14. Jim Hoffman

    Rudy and Thompson should run under their own ticket, TheLets Wait and See Party.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:03 pm |
  15. Steve in Idaho

    Giuliani Who ??

    January 24, 2008 at 3:04 pm |
  16. Alex

    Giuliani and McCain represent a more moderate wing of the republican party, unlike Romney, who is at the far right conservative wing. Remember when McCain was the next successor to Bush? Well, when Giuliani entered the race, he established himself as the more moderate candidate, and as a result McCain fell off. But now that Giuliani has decided to skip the early primaries and go right to Florida, those moderate and independent voters have gone to McCain. And, because his best issue is national security and Iraq, something Giuliani touts over his impressive economic record, the national security voters have gone to McCain. Rudy is the reason why "Mac is Back!"

    January 24, 2008 at 3:04 pm |
  17. Lynn Chalfant

    Easy. First he ignored the early states sending a signal that he only cares about what he thinks will help him. Second, he spent enough time in Florida for those folks to really get to know him for the sham he is.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:05 pm |
  18. Karen

    Giulili forgot the rest of the country. Why should Florida be expected to support someone with such a narrow view.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:10 pm |
  19. Kevin

    Rudy's problem is simple: Romney, McCain and Huckeby haven't dropped out. As soon as they due just watch how Rudy rises to the top.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
  20. Ralph

    He can't manage. It's a blessing in disguise because now we can see the kind of job he would do as president. His talk about economics is hogwash, but a big improvement over McCain's I'll cut government spending during a recession and make it worse. Want a recession? Raise taxes, raise interest rates, reduce the money supply, CUT government spending. What is rocket science about this John?

    January 24, 2008 at 3:14 pm |
  21. Patricia

    Maybe Florida just got too tired of "all St. Rudy all day long"... We can only hope.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:14 pm |
  22. W B in Las Vegas

    I think the "Driving Ms. Judy" scandal showed Rudy's true nature. here's a multimillionair Mayor using NYC public funds to chauffeur around the woman he was cheating with while he was still married to his second wife. I doubt that the "Moral Majority" voters are going to be very interested in voting for a candidate with Rudy's obvious lack of ethics or morals.

    the whole incident points to his obvious arrogance and we have just gone thru seven plus years of Presidential arrogance with another 361 days until that finally ends.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:15 pm |
  23. Scott

    he got into the race.
    scott missouri

    January 24, 2008 at 3:17 pm |
  24. Tina

    This is what happens since they started way to early to become president. The only one that will remain standing is Mitt Romney cause he has millions of dollars to spend out of his own pocket. What does it say when the Republican party is not ponying up money for their candidates? They don't like none of them either.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:19 pm |
  25. Ryan Farrar

    Isn't it obvious, Jack? Rudy's virtual nomination by the media didn't give him any delegates. The mere idea of a Republican nominee who is pro-abortion and pro-gay rights in 2008 is still quite absurd. Of course, many feel it is equally absurd that a black or a woman could actually be President. Why don't we all stop speculating until after Super Tuesday? Just kidding! If I felt that way I wouldn't watch your program. Peace and Ron Paul!

    January 24, 2008 at 3:22 pm |
  26. Angie from Washington State

    Easy you can't put all your eggs on one basket. Or count your chickens before they hatch etc. He put to much in at florida and now everyone is looking at the other candidates for office seeing if there is something better around the corner with something else.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:24 pm |
  27. Vinnie Vino

    Jack,
    Even the people that supported Giuliani got sick and tired of hearing about 911 and Godfather Rudy's evil ways...

    Vinnie

    January 24, 2008 at 3:24 pm |
  28. bnthdntht

    Giant New York "EGO"

    L.M.,Arizona

    January 24, 2008 at 3:28 pm |
  29. Richard Sternagel

    Giuliani's initial approach to his campaign was911( not to disrespect him from his hero image.He is a hero).Then there the allegation that he used tax payer's money to transport his girlfriend around town.He has limited support from the evangelicals and has liberal ideals.His focusing on Florida almost exclusively (doesn't he feel the rest of the country needs to see his campaign? ) makes for low following.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:28 pm |
  30. Rich , McKinney Texas

    Only residents of Florida can vote in this race. All the republicans that only live there in the winter or are visiting can't vote in this primary. Besides Jack, it ain't over until the Fat Lady sings and Pollsters were wrong in New Hampshire too. Lets wait for an official result until we blow the ink dry on Florida.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:31 pm |
  31. kip ward

    Rudy's problem is that he knew he couldn't win over regular people, so he gambled on Florida being his great chance. He was counting on transplanted New Yorkers carrying him there. He thought that his poll numbers would stay high on the national level. He never dreamed that 3 other contenders would set themselves above him before Fla. Because now he's even going to lose New York also.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:32 pm |
  32. Will K

    Being able to interject the phrase 9/11 into every possible occasion is hardly a key qualification for being president. It just took a little bit of time for the public to realize that was all he had to offer.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:33 pm |
  33. Sam

    Jack- What went wrong with Rudy Giuliani. He put all his stakes into Florida and that is a state with the highest number of retired Firefighters and when Firefighters know where the Fire is located, that is where they will attack the base of the fire to put it out, and Giuliani's Fire for the Presidency is almost Extinguished.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
  34. Joe in DE

    Guliani waited too long. Now peopl realize his claim to accomplishment on 911 is lacking in substance.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  35. Wings

    Rudy kept tooting the 9/11 horn, and finally and thankfully, the "Battery" is dead. So is the Bronx and Brooklyn and Jackson Heights and Jacksonville.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:38 pm |
  36. John - San Francisco, CA

    What went wrong for Rudy? Let me count the ways: (1) He is no Statesman; he's not "Presidential," and it shows. (2) From “Mr. Mayor “to “Mr. President” is a HUGE leap, and people have begun to realize that. (3) He'd have a hard time defeating ANY of the front-running Democrats, whether it be Hillary, Obama, or Edwards, for that matter. (4) He’s not really all that articulate, and we’ve had enough of that with GW, thank you very much. Last but not least, (5) “Where’s the beef?"

    January 24, 2008 at 3:41 pm |
  37. Larry D.

    Jack,

    Mayor Giuliani thinks he will win florida but I got bad news for him no way will he win, He mentioned 9/11 way too much in his campaign, even though people think that 9/11 was a tragedy he is using it to remind the american people which they are trying to move past this part in our history. Mccain and Romney will more likely be the victors in the state of florida they are for hope and optimism.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:57 pm |
  38. Jeff in Connecticut

    Jack,
    Rudy may have done a little better if we didn't hear "9/11" everytime he opened his mouth but his associations with corrupt scum, the security detail for his side dish plus stating outright that he wants to further cut taxes for the folks who pull in the most cash yet pay the lowest percentage of tax doesn't give me the "warm fuzzies".

    January 24, 2008 at 3:58 pm |
  39. Greg from PA

    Giuliani is a one trick pony. It seams that he felt all he had to do was say "9/11" and America would sweep him into office. Too bad, so sad.

    January 24, 2008 at 3:58 pm |
  40. Ryan Hutsell

    Well Giuliani, 9/11, is not as mainstream, 9/11, as he would like to think. Maybe just maybe 9/11 the politics of fear will be gone with him 9/11.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:02 pm |
  41. John from CT

    Rudy , Rudy who? Only invisible voters vote for an invisible candidate. Which leads to invisible delegates. But if he campaigned and finished 3rd or higher in at least 3 states - well, that's speculation. Let's see who he attacks tonight at the debate ? Debate - should he even be invited to the (MSNBC) debate?

    January 24, 2008 at 4:04 pm |
  42. Marie Arlington Tx

    I think Rudy's Florda vacation is coming to an end. What a disappointment...don't know what he did wrong but we pretty much know what he didn't do now don't we.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:15 pm |
  43. Surrealist, Fort Myers, Fl

    I think he shot "craps".

    Even New Yorkers who live in NY don't want him...what makes him think New Yorkers in Florida would be any different?

    January 24, 2008 at 4:18 pm |
  44. P.D.

    Rudy's finished. The surge of McCain's numbers are staggering. To think how easily the pundits dismissed McCain is telling. The neo-cons hate him and the conseratives don't trust him. I think the Republicans are in total free-fall.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:19 pm |
  45. John Crowley

    I think Giuliani did himself in on 'Meet the Press' when he was asked if the President's mistress should get secret service protection and instead of saying the president shouldn't have a mistress, he said, "Of course she should." For someone running for President of the United States, to say that is just plain nuts.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:22 pm |
  46. Dan

    Mr. Giuliani forgot that there are fifty states in this country, not 5-10. Citizens of small states do not like being snubbed, and they'll let you know it.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:24 pm |
  47. Bo Texas

    What makes you think Giuliani went wrong? Do you have a crystal ball or something? Lets wait until the results are in. This is a one winner take all race. As long as you people are talking about him he isn't out of anything. How many times have you talked about Fred Thompson today? NONE. That’s because he isn't important now and Giuliani is. Stop closing the doors in these candidates faces Jack. You and the polls were wrong in New Hampshire lets not make you look really stupid by doing it again in Florida.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:24 pm |
  48. willy

    It's really simple. Guiliani ignored the early voting states. A very very stupid move, and he'll be washed out of the election pretty quickly now. McCain will probably take the nomination. Guiliani is a Class A Idiot – if you can't even figure out you need the early states to win you should no be leading the country. Besides McCain is a real war vet, not some smuck who happened to be governor during 9/11. Rudy didn't do anything special, he just did the job he was supposed to back then.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:26 pm |
  49. Ron Margheim

    I think that people finally figured out who Rudy is!

    January 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
  50. Patrick

    Jack Hillary isnt in my opinion entilted to run for president as the constitution says you can only hold office for two terms. If they follow the letter of this she shouldnt be in this race and I would suggest a constitutional authority look at this. They as one held office for two terms. If they want to continue to attack Barack and spread falsehoods I would suggest Barack note the pardons the clintons gave at the last minute to a person who then gave a lot of doe to his library. I am independant voter in south dakota and if Barack doesnt win I would look to Ron Paul if he ran as a 3rd party candidate.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
  51. Alan Warner

    Rudy has demonstrated that he doesn't care about the voters but only about winning. The voters are now demonstrating that they din't care about Rudy.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:36 pm |
  52. Valarie

    Maybe if we wouldn't say 9/11 in every other sentence and actully had a real healthcare plan people would take his candidacy seriously!!!

    January 24, 2008 at 4:36 pm |
  53. Chris - Orlando, Florida

    What wrong for Giuliani? Arrogance. He counted on name recognition and 9/11 to carry him into the White House, ignoring the conventional wisdom that you really do have to campaign in early voting states. In many respects he was just as lazy about this process as Fred Thompson was. Thompson is out. Giuliani is next.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:36 pm |
  54. Jill Onderdonk

    Rudy has a huge ego and did not realize that he needed more than his "leadership" experience in New York City to qualify for President. He should be ashamed of himself for trying to capitalize on the 9/11 tragedy and use it to propel him into the White House. Rudy does not show any real understanding of the important issues regarding education, the economy, housing, and the Iraq war. I think his shaddy business dealings and vindictive past actions would disgust most Americans when they are spread by a national campaign. Good riddance Rudy!

    January 24, 2008 at 4:39 pm |
  55. Ben

    THINKING HE WAS PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:40 pm |
  56. njresident

    He was a terrible mayor and voters know he would be a worst president than bush

    January 24, 2008 at 4:41 pm |
  57. mary dalrymple

    Rudy Guiliani's only claim to fame was he happened to be mayor of NYC when it was attacked. Nobody dwells on the fact that he was the reason for many of the deaths as he didnt have communications that would work between the firemen and the police. He also put the command center in the area that was already targeted by the terrorists. Besides he has little respect for the common man, thought he could ride on GWB's coattails and win, but he held on to them for too long and ended up as unpopular as our president.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:41 pm |
  58. Tim

    A little time, please, he's been here this whole time. He's depending on former New Yorkers, to put him over the top, they moved here when he was in office to get away. I don't think it's gonna work.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:41 pm |
  59. Saad

    What went wrong is that people actually found out more about Giuliani as time went by and realized that he's no where near qualified to be president. In the beginning he was essentially running on his name recognition and "experience" and "leadership" on 9/11, but once everyone realized that his pseudo leadership on 9/11 was actually extremely poor and learned more about his positions compared to the other candidates, his depth-lacking campaign took a big nose dive. And his claim to be the "president that will keep us safe" has been exposed as baseless due to his little to no foreign policy experience coupled with his staunch readiness to start another war at the drop of a hat. We've had 8 years of that kind of leadership, we certainly don't need anymore with Mr. Giuliani.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:42 pm |
  60. Devon Scarlett

    Nothing went wrong. He has not lost Florida yet. There are no clear front runner and there will not be until after "Super Tuesday".... and guess who will be the last man standing? Giuliani.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:42 pm |
  61. Sohail Ahmed

    Days of post 9/11Popularity which made him media darling are gone – Now this is election time and guess he has nothing to offer and could not make an impression of sincere politician, if he had something to offer then he would have been the # 1 choice of media and the people subsequently.

    Guiliani appears to be going down and we wouldn't hear much about him anymore after this election madness is over.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  62. John Rice

    What went wrong was that people woke up and realized what a frightening place the world would be with Rudy as president. He would make Bush's policies seem rational. Invade Iran anyone? Did I mention 9/11?

    January 24, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  63. Dan Greenbaum

    His early lead was entirely due to name recognition. He never had solid support. Early polls are essentially meaningless.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  64. lucky maynard

    The more the voters learn about Rudy, the more they question his judgement and moral background. For some period of time, many voters thought he was the Mormon candidate because he has 3 wives.
    The 9/11 tragedy has faded from many folks minds and he was always a one-issue candidate.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:43 pm |
  65. Steven

    Rudy was smart in his assumption that the GOP field would be split amongst the first few primaries; the Republican Party is lost after the failures of the Bush administration, and as much as they'd like to find one candidate to rally behind, no one seems strong enough to represent core republican values. But for that same exact reason why his idea was smart, it is leading to his demise; he gave the voters enough time to seemingly come behind one candidate (McCain). Without any support from any of the first six primaries or caucuses, no one has the faith they once had in him four months ago. He was never a lock to win the nomination, but now he is a lock to guarantee not being on the ticket in November.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:44 pm |
  66. J. David Williams

    Giuliani went wrong all over the place. Most of it goes back to his arrogant attitude: I saved the world after 9/11; I'm so revered by the former New Yorkers in Florida that I don't have to care about any primary but the one in Florida; I was the greatest mayor New York has ever seen, so much so that they almost extended my term beyond the term limit. My happiness is the only thing that's important, so I'll announce publicly that I have a new girlfriend before I tell my wife.

    Sleezy hothead Rudy was doomed from the get-go.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:44 pm |
  67. Tim

    He does not have what it takes to be a president. If you ask me non of the repuplican candidates will be able to fix bush's mess.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:44 pm |
  68. Gary

    Putting all his eggs in one basket didn't work. He always mentions Ronald Reagen in every other sentence. Not too original. Boring.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:45 pm |
  69. Steffen Soller

    I never understood why Guiliani would forego the early states – to do what...watch the primaries on television in the comfort of his own home? I think America has taken a great interest in this year's election. Voter turn out has increased for primaries and people care. The first debate in Iowa was not just a get together to impress a bunch of farm boys but it was a nationally televised event – Guiliani was missing. I have followed a lot of the early election coverage and on the Republican side there have been 3 names that came up over and over: Romney, McCain, and Huckabee – how many times has the name Guiliani come up in the past few weeks? I wouldn't be surprised if people even know he is still running!

    Besides, skipping the early states leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of not only the citiziens of the skipped states but to all Americans. While I am sure Guiliani is serious about his bid for presidency but is there a better way to appear lazy and not caring to the American people?

    January 24, 2008 at 4:45 pm |
  70. LeAnn Hilderman

    Guiliani has been exposed as the empty shirt he always was.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:45 pm |
  71. Frances

    The publicity about those trysts with his mistress, now his wife, and how they were paid for by the taxpayers of New York in security costs sent him running to Florida and staying out of the spotlight elsewhere it seems.
    Surely if republicans say they cannot call Bill Clinton a respectable character because of the Lewenski affair ,then they will not be able to support such conduct on the part of these two characters and vote put them in the white house.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:46 pm |
  72. Dave McDougal

    Rudy should have stayed home

    January 24, 2008 at 4:47 pm |
  73. Dan

    The man is very cabable but has no charisma. You have to be able to identify with people. Like Clinton reachin out to women and Obama reaching out to a younger generation.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:47 pm |
  74. K Jeter

    While Guiliani remained off the media radar for weeks, strong defense conservatives flocked to McCain, while economic conservatives drifted to Romney. Social conservatives love Huckabee, which leaves Guiliani with only 1 remaining constituent – FoxNews pundits.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:48 pm |
  75. Rick

    I think all of the unpresidented attention that the early primaries have been given hurt Mr. Giulliani. The race between Clinton and Obama is must see TV every night. I am a Republican who feels whichever candidate makes it out of the democratic side will easily win in November. It's not tsunami Tuesday which will seal Mr. Giulliani's fate, it has been tsunami Clintbama which has done the job. Unfortunately, I think the GOP and its candidates have been underwater since Iowa.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:49 pm |
  76. Hooray

    What went wrong for Rudy Giuliani? Rudy Guiliani. The guy is quite simply not likable. The more the people of Florida have gotten to know him, the less they've liked him. There wasn't much to like in the first place – perhaps a better strategy for him would have been to say, "Remember me? I was the mayor of New York City on 9-11," and then just sit quietly and nod.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:49 pm |
  77. Lynne

    Rudy aka Mr. Ego went wrong with Rudy. "Nine eleven; Ronald Reagan this, Ronald Reagan that"; and worst of all, he thinks he can do everything that the others cannot. He lost my respect after the first debate.

    Lynne

    January 24, 2008 at 4:50 pm |
  78. GodSaveAmerica

    By ignoring earlier states, Giuliani has demonstrated he doesn't care what it America thinks he only cares about winning. Ignoring the earlier states signals that he's not interested what a cross section of different Americans have to say but what people with power can do for him– in this case the number of delagates in FL, leaving all the previous states with the impression of being left out "Planet Giuliani".

    Giuliani only cares about winning, not about America. We don't need another bully president who's ego blinds him and will only listen to people who agree with him. We need a president who will listen to ALL Americans.

    Giuliani should NOT be considered for public office ever again.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:50 pm |
  79. Dave

    What went wrong? Jack, what a softball question!! Rudy oozed arrogence from the minute he entered the race, emphasized that arrogence by thumbing his nose at the early states- which it is now apparent voters in later states pay attention to. Arrogence turns voters off (Bill Clinton- are YOU paying attention???) and Rudy is about to get his come-uppence.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:50 pm |
  80. Wes

    We are currently testing the hypothesis of whether the country is ready for a testosterone driven White Male for president. The results are in - we are not ready for "George W., The Sequel"!

    January 24, 2008 at 4:50 pm |
  81. Kevin

    Giuliani is done. Being ahead of the polls for so long and falling from grace is nothing new, ala Howard Dean.

    Giuliani can not be ( he is not that smart) the first candidate ever to come up with this strategey: ignore the small states and concentrate on the big one. There is a reason it has not been done. IT DOES NOT WORK.
    Talk to me after Tuesday election!

    January 24, 2008 at 4:50 pm |
  82. John

    Its simple Jack, in grade school if you didn't do your homework, you failed. Ron Paul gave Rudy some homework to do and he failed to do it. The American people better wake up and look at the road ahead. If we are so worried about the economy folks need to start listening to what Ron Paul has been saying for over 20 years. America First, Restore the Constitution, Bring our troops home, and put the power back in the hands of the people.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:51 pm |
  83. Matthew

    As a NYC resident who lived through the Giuliani regime, I believe the rest of the country has finally begun to see what New Yorker have known for many years – the truth about Rudy. On 9/11 Rudy did his job – nothing more – nothing less. Yes he appeared in command and control during a crisis – especially compared to the response of some like Ray Nagin during Hurricane Katrina – however the question must be asked – what exactly did he do then and afterwards that showed true leadership? Most New Yorkers know Giuliani as an egotistical blowhard who hampered race relations, publicly cheated and disrespected his wife and associated with felons and cheats (Bernard Kerik). I am happy that everyone can now see the truth of "America's Mayor."

    January 24, 2008 at 4:51 pm |
  84. Gretchen Goldsmith

    Here's what's wrong with Rudy's campaign – The American people have finally wised up and can see through the politicization of 9-11. Rudy's made a career out of 9-11 fear mongering, let's hope it ends in Florida.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:52 pm |
  85. Cat, Costa Mesa, CA

    Jack,

    What went wrong? He listened to bad advice! He tried to play out a untested strategy and it has come back to bite him! As you said, he has no momentum, and it seems most of the country has forgotten all about him! Even if by some miracle he did win Florida, would it propel him enough to win big Super Tuesday? I guess we'll find out next tuesday!

    January 24, 2008 at 4:55 pm |
  86. NatalieOrf

    I don't know if he was trying to be slick or lazy but I think he blew his chances by not getting involved and working hard like all the other candidates have been. This will be one for the history books..what NOT to do..when running for office.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:55 pm |
  87. Drew

    Nothing went wrong for Rudy. THe media is a self-appointed sooth-sayer that hasn't got a clue what the public is thinking. The media decides to annoint a candidate, and then when that candidate fails, the media acts as if it is the voters that got it wrong. Sharpen up, guys! Your're supposed to report on what is happening, not try to create the event!

    January 24, 2008 at 4:55 pm |
  88. Dan T

    How can Rudy claim to have the desire to be president of the UNITED States, and basically "pass" on competing in 6 states. I think his strategy reflect his biggest flaws – judgment and arrogance. (See Bernie Kerik.)

    January 24, 2008 at 4:56 pm |
  89. Frank, ID

    Hey Jack,

    I can tell you what went wrong with Guiliani–he is a politician of opportunity. The opportunist in our society is looked down on (and sometimes rightly so) because they seem to get their foot in the door at just the right time. In a country where the word 'democracy' means everyone is equal, people see him as one of the little people who just happened to be in the right place at the right time. That is seen as unfair–after all, if I had the media coverage he had back in 9/11, and was seen as someone who did a lot to help the country in a particularly scary time, I could be running for president too, right?

    Guiliani, unfortunately, really is an opportunist, and you also have the rock stars Clinton and Obama taking up all the media time. The people that should be getting the most attention should be people that don't waste time with taking shots at each other and bickering over what their words really mean. Edwards, Romney, McCain, and even Ron Paul should be getting that attention. Politicians like Guiliani and Huckabee, and even Fred Thompson, simply have started running because for a moment they got some attention and decided to take their act on the road. They are opportunists, and have no business running for president.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:57 pm |
  90. Carlos Santiago

    In a strange way Rudy played his hand the only way he could. If he had invested all of his time, energy and money in Iowa, NH and Michigan and lost in all three, there would now be a lot of pressure on him to drop out of the race (ala Fred Thompson). But by "purposely" ignoring those states, he was able to buy himself more time in the race. I'm sure he was hoping the Romney, McCain and Huckabee campaigns would stumble during the last couple of weeks but unfortunately for him it didn't happen.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:58 pm |
  91. john

    New York City is about its people, New York is about firemen running up tower stairs as people ran down, Rudi didn’t rescue NY, the people of New York did, and we knew it. Now everyone knows it.

    January 24, 2008 at 4:59 pm |
  92. Greg

    The answer to your question Jack .... "What went RIGHT for Rudy Guiliani?"

    January 24, 2008 at 5:00 pm |
  93. Zach

    I really like Rudy Giuliani and I was curious to see how this strategy would work. It is obvious that this strategy is not at all effective but his strategy is one I want to work because I don't like the authority Iowa and New Hampshire hold over the entire process. Giuliani's strategy is progressive and will hopefully inspire more candidates to focus on a more national campaign. He is a better candidate than these result have shown.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:01 pm |
  94. Derek David

    Jack , I'll tell you what happened to Roody Kazoodie. His whole personna as "America's Mayor" was built on quicksand.Roody couldn't have been elected dog catcher in New York, had it not been for 9-11and when you really stop and think about it, what the hell did he do THAT day that anyone else in his posistion would not have done ANYWAY? Thank Rupert and the Foxhole boys for trying to build a foundation on a house of cards...Good riddance

    January 24, 2008 at 5:01 pm |
  95. Terry

    Jack,
    Guliani has an inflated ego and a political platform to the right of Attilla the Hun.
    Its all about war, 9/11 and more war. Thank goodness he is losing.
    Terry

    January 24, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  96. Carolyn Crandall

    What went wrong with Giuliani? He ran on nothing except 911 and he really doesn't even have that. Walking around in the rubble with a mask does not qualify one to be a President because if that were true, then Bush standing on the rubble with a bullhorn would have made him a president and we know where that went.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:05 pm |
  97. Barb

    Hopefully he will NOT be the candidate. I am so tired of his 9/11 Mayor of America attitude. Don't you think almost anyone in that position on that day would have been able to play the hero?

    January 24, 2008 at 5:06 pm |
  98. Dennis

    a comment left by Kevin is ridiculous. On what basis does he have to make that comment. Not that I am a McCain supporter or anything, but that's really retarded.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:07 pm |
  99. annie

    This man IGNORED the residents of 6 states, as if they didn't matter. We've already been through 7 years of that kind of President. His attitude just represents 4 more years of the same. Really bad plan, Rudy .

    January 24, 2008 at 5:07 pm |
  100. Ruby Coria, CA.

    Jack, I knew (12) of Rudy supporters among my friends now he has one, due to the fact of his lack of effort, the debates don't cut it, he needs to at least fight like the Hill and Obama or talk like Ron Paul, just do something. By the time (if he makes it here to California) he's going to start from scratch..it would be nice if he makes it. John McCain is so like OLD NEWS.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:08 pm |
  101. Rick

    The Idea,setup and follow through just about Everything,
    Actually really what has went right in his "so called" campaign.
    Im a transplanted Yankee living in Florida, We are voting for Ron Paul.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:09 pm |
  102. Kelli

    You're calling this too early, Jack. Remember 80% of the Republicans in Florida are not religious wackos and vote socially moderate or liberal. I hope the Republicans in Florida are true to themselves and vote for Rudy. I am a liberal voting for Hillary because she has the most experience and we are in a HUGE mess and going down. Having a non-biggoted opponent to run against would give America a chance at something besides hate and would shut the religious influence down, it's been so good for us. Women need their reproductive safety net and gay people should be treated the same as everyone else. They are religious but not like Jesus, the exact opposite.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:10 pm |
  103. Sammy NY

    Jack
    Is he still in the race?

    January 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  104. Steve Fortgang

    Simple: HE LEFT NEW YORK

    January 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  105. Bob

    He made the same mistake as all the other candidates: running for President.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  106. jon

    It just shows that Rudy is really nothing more than a 1-Trick Pony and the 9-11 trick doesn't work anymore. It worked twice for Bush but its not going to work a 3rd time for Rudy.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  107. Jason of S.C.

    What went wrong? He's Guilliani, that's what went wrong. Kicking homeless people out of New York? Yeah, that's just not moral and people aren't forgetting that.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  108. Garrison

    What went wrong with Rudy? Can you spell a-r-r-o-g-a-n-c-e???

    January 24, 2008 at 5:12 pm |
  109. Sean Lally

    The more people get to know Rudy the less they like him

    the more they came to see that he was a small man in search of a balcony

    thats what went wrong

    January 24, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  110. Mary Dyer (DaMare)

    Giuliani's extreme arrogance struck out! He's just another guy like Thompson who thought he could stroll through the door and take command of the place when he hadn't even paid admission.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  111. Chaz Stevens

    What went wrong with Rudy Giuliani? Rudy Giuliani !!

    January 24, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  112. patricia

    Jack:

    one answer Jack... arrogance....

    January 24, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  113. James Arthur Strohm

    What went wrong with Giuliani?

    More than anything else, Americans everywhere remember that he's a twice-divorced, adulterous cheater. We don't need a man like that in the White House, we don't want him in the White House, and we're not going to have him in the White House.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  114. tony from california

    what went wrong for giuliani was presciently stated by joseph biden months ago: a noun, a verb, and 9/11.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  115. robert

    What went wrong with rudy?RUDY.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
  116. RAD Seattle

    Gulliuani only made one mistake in his political campaign.........he ran.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  117. Pete, Fla.

    Entering the race in the first place was what went wrong. That, and the decision to rely solely on Florida. But heck, if he want's to stay in Florida he's more than welcome, he and "Grandpa" McCain can go ahead and retire here.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  118. Delane

    To quote Joe Biden "A noun, a verb, and 9/11." Best analysis of Rudy since he joined the race!

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  119. Doug Whittle

    What went wrong with Rudy Giuliani? That's easy: Rudy Giuliani. People finally began to pay attention to him and realized that he is extremely difficult to like.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  120. Mathis in Texas

    This is a great example of strategy gone bad. I'm not sure if old Rudy was certain his controversial claims about his 9/11 heroism somehow would stick in the early states leaving him plenty of time to spend in Florida. Maybe he just wanted to get a tan.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  121. James Brown

    What went wrong for Rudy Giuliani?

    He got into the race and thought because he was taking up space in NY on 9/11 he was going to be able to float into the White House.

    He is about as good for this country as another Clinton.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  122. Sally

    Giuliani's Problem- Arrogance- Pure and Simple. I'm in Florida, his campaign stops do nothing more than increase the population of folks who DON'T like him. The man doesn't stand a chance.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  123. Giny

    My mama always told me not to put all my eggs in one basket! Guess his did not!

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  124. David

    Nothing went wrong. Just like any election the voters get to know the candidates. Rudy is not a likable person, he has no foreign policy experience, and he is a horrible speaker & debater. The rebublicans have no one that fits the bill exactly but he came up short time & time again. The real question? What made ANYONE ever think Rudy would make a good president?

    January 24, 2008 at 5:14 pm |
  125. Scott, San Francisco

    Giuliani's Problem is two-fold:

    1) He did not brazenly change his position on all of the major social issues before running for the Republican nomination

    2) He did not have enough money to self-finance a race in all 50 states

    Perhaps Rudy has no control over #2 but I suppose he could have tried #1.

    We know at least one candidate who's still standing in the GOP race who's arguably only standing because of the two items above. Millions may not respect Mitt for it but at least he's still standing.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  126. cari

    What went wrong? HA! People started to see that this hopeful emperor also had no clothes. Most of us living in NY under his reign knew he wasn't presidential material. Remember, this is the guy that built the command center in the World Trade Center after being warned it was a target. DUH! Imagine what he could do on a national level.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  127. Bob Stiles

    Jack
    What went wrong for Rudy? in a word ARROGANCE !!!!!

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  128. Alexa

    You just said it. He ignored 6 states and now his message is being ignored.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  129. Phil Carpenter

    Jack, I think Rudy is, at heart, a quitter. When he ran into more resistance than he expected in his New York Senate race, he quit (using his health as an excuse). When Iowa and New Hampsire started looking bad, he quit. When the states prior to Florida looked bad as well, he quit. His quitting out after this primary will be superfluous.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  130. Ed Mier

    Jack,
    Rudy was known initially as a solid crime fighter and, most including I believed, a plotical moderate. But then he went pro-Bush, pro-Iraq war, and hawkish to the right side of the bald eagle (pun intended). That's when I wrote him off - we don't want another Bush rubber-stamp clone.
    Ed Mier

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  131. john

    Wait. Whats a Giuliani?

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  132. Michael

    Rudy's problems began the day he decided to run. He was always perceived as a single issue candidate, and unfortunately for him, that issue wasn't the economy.

    Michael
    Fountain Inn, SC

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  133. Monique MacEachern

    Jack,
    To paraphrase a quate by Joe Biden " Rudy's campaign basically consists of one thing, "Noun, verb, 9-11" It ain't enough!!
    Monique, New Brunswick

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  134. Jon from Tempe, Az

    Giuliani had the deck stacked against him. The arcane process that we have for primaries in this country put all of the states that Giuliani could not win ahead of him. I honestly believe if we would have a national primary in this country Guiliani would have been the nominee. Making Iowa and New Hampshire first does destroy a lot of candidates. Incidentally, this comment is coming from someone who was born and raised in Iowa.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  135. Mike Jurkovic

    The American people have heard and seen enough of this one trick, four syllable fascist wannabe: nine-e-le-ven, one page tax form, new york mayor...enough. I hope Ron Paul scores higher. I just wonder when the media will censor him from the debates for polling so low

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  136. Forrest

    Someone forgot to mention to Rudy what "CAMPAIGN" means...

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  137. john j. grimes

    The trouble with Rudy is that in his own mind, he was going to win.
    As the old saying goes, "Egotism is nature's compensation for mediocrity.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  138. Dana

    What went wrong with Rudy? Easy, Jack.
    He opened his mouth, and all that came out was 9/11.
    While the rest of the nation was ready to move on, Rudy stayed behind in his glory days.
    Rudy, you're way out of touch.
    Dana
    North Carolina

    January 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
  139. Cameron Yearty

    I don't think anything in particular has gone wrong with Mr. Giuliani's campaign, per se. I see the problem with his fourth, albeit still unofficial, marriage to September 11th. It is OK for someone to highlight times in which their leadership was tested and they excelled, but when you make one of the most catastrophic events in American history the backbone of your campaign, then you run the risk of alienating many people.

    Cameron Yearty
    Mercer University

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  140. Diane Offutt

    Jack,

    My answer is "what exactly went RIGHT for him". Other than doing what any normal American would do during 9/11...stand up for the American way of life....let everyone know we will make it....etc..etc...other than that he needs to just bow out gracefully...hmmmmmmmmmmm...can he do that? Does he need to run it by his wife first?

    Diane Offutt
    Woodstock, GA

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  141. Doyle

    Hi Jack
    Nothing went wrong for Rudy Giuliani. He's running for Vice President. If he can deliver Florida he's on the ticket. eh

    Doyle
    Canada

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  142. Fred

    He was the wrong candidate at the wrong time and the wrong place. Running to the right of the neo conservatives when they have been discredited would be a hard position to win on.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  143. etan

    What went wrong for Guiliani?
    Judy and an over dose of 9/11. His personailty doesn ot help either.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  144. Dave in Colorado

    Jack, I'm pretty sure Rudy thought that it only took winning the vote in Florida and the Supreme Court to become the next president.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  145. janice

    Jack it is quite simple, he opened his mouth.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  146. Justin

    Hey Jack,

    What went wrong with Rudy's campaign? Simple. Rudy!

    The more you see him the less you like him. He'd have been better off playing commercials of 9/11 over and over with the words "Vote for Rudy" superimposed on the screen (hey that sounds like the commercials he's running now!). At least then people wouldn't have seen how little he actually knows about..well..anything.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  147. renaldo g

    9/11, 9/11, 9/11! Thats all we've heard from him for over 6 years now. He used this tragic event for his own political gain and the american people have seen right through him. Please mr. Gulliani, fir a new horn to blow.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  148. antonio

    What went wrong???? What did he do right.....?! Instead of talking about the issues like the democrats are at least attempting to do, all Rudy does is talk about national security, and his part in 911, when it was he who moved his headquarters into the twin towers(which was a bad move!) now he's an expert on security because he happened to be there on 911? How about some real issues Rudy!!!!

    January 24, 2008 at 5:16 pm |
  149. Edith

    Mr. Giuliani does not seem to understand that this is NOT a game...it is an election for the President of the United States of America. His strategy was flawed from the on-set because we are not cattle and can not be herded according to his calculations. I hope he is humbled by Florida's new polls...and drops out!

    America doesn't need him.

    -Edith

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  150. John Traver

    Nothing went wrong with Rudy's campaign. He trully is that bad of a canidate. Have you ever listened to him.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  151. R. White

    No one has mentioned it, but I suggest it is his surname: it just doesn't "fit" in the list of presidents. We as a nation are not ready for a "ethnically diverse" presidency. This also spells doom for the Senator from Illinois, but no one will admit it.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  152. ted

    That is an easy calculation – it was 9//11/01 and not 9/11/07

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  153. Joe

    He thought that since NYC was attacked on 9/11 that made him tough against terrorism, and thus the country would vote for him. He was a horrible Mayor and would have made a horrible president. We as a country need someone who will address the real issues. High gas prices, the housing market, the economy. He's just not the one.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  154. Angela

    It's not that shocking Jack: When he went south to Florida instead of north to Iowa and New Hampshire he lost the media. You guys in the media love to say you just report the news but the fact is – you help MAKE the news. Rudy is simply out of sight and out of mind with most voters.
    Maybe Rudy should've taken a few pitiful jabs at poor, frail Saint Obama. That seems to be ticket toward getting attention from you guys. Apparently bad attention is better than no attention at all.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  155. Bill O'Brien

    Rudy's campaign was flawed from the beginning as he continued using 9/11 for political purposes to tout his 'so-called' national security credentials. Then, like an idiot, he decides to skip the early states in favor of Florida. With ideas like this, imagine what he would have been like in the White House. He's his own worst advisor. Good bye Rudy. Bye bye.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  156. Jason

    Rudy went wrong when he implemented his, "I was the Mayor of New York City on 9/11" campaign strategy. When he spent 50+ days in one state, the people were able to realize 9/11 is his only campaign pitch, and that he has nothing else of any substance to talk about.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  157. Paulette Bent

    What went wrong for Giuliani Jack was his own behavior. Many people recently became enlightened by Vanity Fair magazine's article"What Guiliani Doesn't Want Voters To Know,"(Jan.2008) and another expose in the Jan.7,2008 The New Yorker magazine. These articles have All that Florida voters need to know about Rudy.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  158. Esta Geoffroy

    I have always thought that Guiliani was just working on his company. This "campaign" has been an enormous shot in the arm for his security consultant business. Think about the publicity. Think about the money.

    January 24, 2008 at 5:17 pm |
  159. Mike Cooper

    It's a gamble that I think Giuliani has badly lost, but I don't think he was wrong to make it. Iowa, which ultimately gave its caucus victory to an evangelical midwestern governor, Mike Huckabee, would never have considered a liberal New York Mayor. Rudy's unpopularity in the Northeast (which we haven't heard much about so far), would have precluded winning in New Hampshire, and losing there, in the region that pundits would have considered Giuliani's back yard would have stopped his campaign in its tracks. Giuliani played a bad hand well, by staking his claim in Florida. If it wasn't for McCain's resurgence it might have even worked. Giuliani would have had a monopoly on the moderate vote, and strong claims to the national security and retired New Yorker vote.

    Although I loath Giuliani, I am sorry that his defeat is going to be interpreted as a defeat of his unorthodox campaign strategy. I have long been irritated by the outsized influence that Iowa and New Hampshire hold over the primary process. I think McCain has done a lot, both in 2000 and this year to dispel the notion that Iowa really matters. A victory for Giuliani in Florida could have upended the whole biased system.

    January 29, 2008 at 3:04 am |