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December 18th, 2007
01:32 PM ET

Losing “family values”?

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It looks like "family values" just aren't the campaign issue they used to be.

"USA Today" reports that in this election cycle, so-called "family values" are lower on the agenda. Of course, Republicans have made this a staple of their political campaigns for three decades now. But in the current campaign, Mitt Romney is virtually alone in stressing the issue. A "USA Today"/Gallup poll shows that although most voters say "family values" in general are important to them, they don't care all that much about candidate's personal lives.

There are several reasons for this shift, including cultural changes in society and the backgrounds of several of the Republican candidates. Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Fred Thompson have all been divorced and remarried.

There's also the importance of issues like the war, terrorism and the economy. One Republican strategist says today's atmosphere has been shaped by a series of traumatic events: the 9/11 attacks, Hurricane Katrina and the Iraq war, adding, "In the 1980s and 1990s, the perfect shot was the candidate, the spouse, the kids and the dog. In the 21st century, it's all about action. It's all about getting things done."

Here’s my question to you: What does it say about the U.S. in 2007 if "family values" have lost their punch as a campaign issue?

To watch the Cafferty File video click here 

Interested to know which ones made it on air?

Randall writes:
People have finally figured out that "family values" was just a red herring, Republican bumper sticker slogan, which was used to keep people from paying attention to the real issues, i.e. the Iraq War, the skyrocketing deficit, the recession we are now in, a lack of a single pay health insurance for everyone, and a government that has never worked for the people but only for the military industrial complex and big business.

Darach from New Jersey writes:
It means that the citizens of this country are looking for a more pragmatic leader, not one who is going to preach to us about what our values ought to be. Leave that to us. We're smart enough to decide those for ourselves.

Richard from Enterprise, Alabama writes:
Just look back at what we got in 2000 when the courts gave us a "family values" president. We just can't afford another 8 years of family values.

Paul from Brooklyn writes:
Jack, Hopefully it says that the American public has begun to awake from their slumber and are realizing that saying you are for family values and actually having them are two different things. Maybe having a president who vetoes healthcare for children, congressmen that cruise airport restrooms and molest children & adolescents, spiritual leaders who do drugs with gay male prostitutes etc. have finally taken their toll. Well, it's the Christmas season. We can dream.

Darryl from Oregon writes:
It says we've finally figured out that family values start with the family, not the government. There is very little government can do to affect family values, although keeping mothers and fathers home with their families rather than sending them into a stupid war might help.

Mike from New York writes:
Jack, The Republican charade is over. We've found they have many families and no values.

Maybe Jack will read yours tomorrow.


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soundoff (129 Responses)
  1. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Not everyone in America has a family. Of those that do, family values mean different things to each and it depends on each individual in that family and their perception of it. Personally for me, someone else's family values are irrelevant. When I look at a person I try and see the whole sum of all that persons parts especially if I am going to be judgmental about them and place a label on them to voice to others. Opinions Vary and always will.

    December 18, 2007 at 1:57 pm |
  2. Allen L Wenger

    It doesn't say anything, Jack. It was like saying "where's the beef?". It was only a catchy phrase that wasn't followed up with anything substancial and you can only do that for so long before people quit paying attention.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:03 pm |
  3. Troy

    It shows that we have finally realized that family values and most social issues like abortion and gay marriage aren't really that important in the grand scheme. Jack we have falling dollar, a housing crisis, non secure borders, huge debt and don't forget that little Iraq thing.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:10 pm |
  4. Bill

    I think what it says is, family's are more concerned about things like the cost of fuel to heat their homes, the cost of gas to put their cars, and having their loved ones come home safely from a war with no end in sight. – Bill, Quarryville, Pennsylvania

    December 18, 2007 at 2:23 pm |
  5. Jayne

    It means the damage of the past 7 years has finally caught up with the Republicans. Family values also means one parent can afford to stay at home with the kids, everyone gets to be healthy and you can afford to turn on the furnace and put food on the table. And it doesn't hurt that there are few candidates from the Republican side that have much in the way of "family values" to crow about.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:24 pm |
  6. Pam from Virginia Beach

    IT SAYS THAT POLITICANS HAVE NOT CHANGED AT ALL. WHATEVER THE MEDIA BRINGS UP AS "TOPIC" OF THE DAY, IS COMMENTED ON BY THEM. IF FAMILY VALUES ARE NOT BROUGHT UP, WHY SHOULD THEY COMMENT ON THEM. PEOPLE FOLLOW THE LEAD OF THE MEDIA. WHAT A WONDERFUL COUNTRY WE HAVE.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:38 pm |
  7. ServingOverseas

    It says war, economy and a compromised constitutuion are bigger issues. War rips families apart, a crumbling economy stresses most families, and stripping away constitutional rights raises the tyranny-warning level to red.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:51 pm |
  8. SciGal

    Religious values seem to be getting the big punch. Family values seem to be getting knocked out by the concept of wanting more and paying less on the backs of Chinese Christian workers. Still, families are buying toxic products for their children. I guess, Jack, we don't care about our families. Teen pregnancy is up 3% and we want to get rid of abstinence programs in our school.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:53 pm |
  9. Hopeful

    I think "family values" will always be important to America whether they are combined with politics or separate from it, but I feel the reason they have "lost the punch" as an issue in the political campaign is because the public is starting to understand that there are more important matters at hand – matters that deal with society as a whole, the planet in which we live, and whether or not we can prevail as a free & intellectual democracy. Our economy is dysfunctional, our civil liberties are almost non-existent, and our planet is in peril, but the real question that remains is... will America accept & create the change that is needed for progress?

    December 18, 2007 at 2:54 pm |
  10. Wayne

    Hope it might mean there could be more focus upon real issues and less focus upon stupid slogans that are specifically intended to distract and pander.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:54 pm |
  11. ginger

    The Gang Of Perverts blew that all to hell
    America's families are in very very sad shape because, despite all the talk, that's exactly what it is.
    Hey, is no health insurance for working parents and kids a "family value"?
    Is war and torture a family value?
    Is promoting yourself as a Christian while committing every frickin sin in the book a "family value"?
    on and on ssdd

    December 18, 2007 at 2:55 pm |
  12. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Jack family values left the building about a billion dollars ago. Do you have any idea of how much a billion dollars really is? Here are a few examples:

    A. A billion seconds ago it was 1972.
    B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive +-70 years.
    C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.
    D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.
    E. A billion dollars ago was only 4 hours and 10 minutes,
    That's around 2 trillion a year in government expendeture.

    Where does this 2 trillion dollars a year come from? Me and you in the form of taxation.

    December 18, 2007 at 2:59 pm |
  13. Pat

    I think it means we need to go back to Plymouth Rock and start all over again. What we have ain't working ! Where's Perot when we need him?

    December 18, 2007 at 2:59 pm |
  14. Patricia

    Well Let's See, Have the Republicans really contributed to family values? No!!!
    A father of 4 still has to work 60 hours a week to make living wage. A mother of 4 has to help by working 40 hours a week. A family value is allowing a father & mother to enjoy their children at least 4 to 6 hours a night with reading & home-work & other family pursuits. The Republicans haven't contributed to a family value, which is making sure that after a father of 4, who works 60 hours a week, is able to care for an ill child. That father can't afford health care for his child. The mother of 4 who is also working 40 hours a week can't afford health care for her children either.
    The value of the family has sunk below the radar because the Republican's believe family values's mean, going to church 3 times a week, the pledge to the flag & out-lawing anything that let's a person think for themselves.
    Family Value's mean something entirely different to me: When you wake-up can your kids sit down to a breakfast, can they carry a lunch to school? When they come home are those kids "latch-key" kids or is there someone there to talk to them about how their day went? When supper is put on the table is there enough food for everyone to enjoy a decent meal, & are both parents there to give their kids the inner strength they need to face another day? When a child becomes ill, is there a safety net really there, so that a father & mother are there to see a child through the fears of illness, or will the mother & father have to take a 2nd or 3rd job just to pay the hospital bills?
    No, Republicans can't be allowed to use "Family Values" as club over Democrats anymore!!!!

    December 18, 2007 at 3:05 pm |
  15. Jenny from New York

    It shows that this group of Republican candidates are in no position to tout "family values" due to the questions it will raise about their OWN family lives. And Democrats never made "family values," as a wedge issue, a top priority. And that's the way it SHOULD be.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:06 pm |
  16. Ken, on the left coast

    What does it say about the U.S. in 2007 if “family values” have lost their punch as a campaign issue?

    Jack,
    I have a hunch the other family value has become more important, the value of the family income. We are suffering galloping inflation, and unnecessary and extreme personal credit indebtedness. Family values are a mute subject when economic peace of mind is eluding so many. That elusiveness all too many times punishes family values by divorce, where statistically, money is the main reason.
    The politician’s are well aware the working class is in a downward spiral, that is, except for Bush. My other hunch is Edwards is on to the subject and people are listening.
    Ken Johnson

    December 18, 2007 at 3:07 pm |
  17. Tina

    Let's see, Bush put his hand on the bible and lied and they wonder why the U. S is a mess. People are in a phase and what comes around goes around and the families will return but maybe not like our parents time.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:15 pm |
  18. W B in Las Vegas

    from what has happened with the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs, the use of illegal ailens to drive down wages and benefits in many industries like meatpacking and home construction, food, housing and energy cost inflation and the general decline in the American middle class standard of living the last 7+ years, I would say that Republican "Family Values" are more like "Mafia Family Values."

    for the Wall Street Weasels and Corporate Quislings that are the Republican major backers, the last 7+ years has been "steal what you can steal when you can steal it"

    December 18, 2007 at 3:15 pm |
  19. Aware

    Jack! Let’s put it this way. War in Iraq, Afghanistan, Economy, Border Security comes first in politics in general now a days. We should leave this question or thoughts to our president who said, “…If you are single mother with two children.. Which is the taffiest job in America, as far as I’m concern, and you working hard to put food on your family…” Bush yep! Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me/you!

    December 18, 2007 at 3:16 pm |
  20. Dan Putnam

    I hope it means that Americans are tired of politicians using Jesus' name like a gaudy bauble.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:19 pm |
  21. Scott

    it means Jack, that the religious value's the bush administraition cramed down our throats have left a bad taste, if bush is godly, no wonder the world hates us, we hate him also. how the hell can anyone exspect values when this president treasonous ways have devalued us all. everytime i think of bush as our leader I feel dirty.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:35 pm |
  22. Terry O'Flaherty

    Jack
    With both mom and dad working one and two jobs to pay the bills family values have been put on the back burner, kids today are growing up on automatic pilot. Mom and dad have too many other issues to worry about.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:37 pm |
  23. Larry Pico

    Jack,

    Family values are an issue.

    If Huckabee is for real and believes what he says, his Christian principals will give his campaign the knock out punch he needs. But if he isn't, your right.

    Larry from Missouri

    December 18, 2007 at 3:41 pm |
  24. Bill Wanner

    "Family values" is a Republican code term for: If you don't fit the narrow ultra conservative "Ozzie and Harriet" mode, which basically never existed in the first place, then you must be a member of the "radical left." I think that argument has run out of steam, especially when you consider the endless lies told to all of us by our so-called "Christian" leaders, who have been trying to shove their own values down all our throats for the past seven years. WHAT "family values?"

    December 18, 2007 at 3:52 pm |
  25. bob klepak

    That America is finally growing up and concerning itself with real issues of war, peace, economy and infrastructure instead of who is getting a little affection from whom and whether they will raiswe their children to be Puritans or Heathens.

    December 18, 2007 at 3:59 pm |
  26. Lacressha

    Jack,

    It says that the people of the United States of America have decided that God and the Bible is not the way and the good ole USA is no longer one nation under God. It is now a nation of many gods and whatever feels good to you, like Nike, Just Do It!

    Since they have asked God to leave, he has and the USA is beginning to see the results of it. It is the direct result of the pitiful leadership we have acquired and each election it goes from bad to worse. Other countries are flourishing while the USA is on a downward slope that can only end up like Sodom and Gommorrah, DESTROYED!

    Lacressha,
    Atlanta, Georgia

    December 18, 2007 at 4:00 pm |
  27. Ray

    It means the Rev. Jerry Falwell is really DEAD and so is the Moral Majority, Thank God

    December 18, 2007 at 4:00 pm |
  28. Patsy

    Lets see. If Rudy was to be president the white house would be filled hoods and whores. If Romneys prophet said to bomb Nebraska he would. So much for family values. After GB and all the republicans dirty little dealings I think they need another slogan.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:02 pm |
  29. JOHN FEDAKO

    What is "family values". Families are now gays, lesbians, singles, old seniors, divorced men and women, grand parents caring for grandchildren, homeless people,and of course the great American family: two wonderful people living in a picket fenced house withe two children and a housekeeper. Family values was always a catch phrase. thank god its gone.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:09 pm |
  30. Charlie Murphy

    We have lost our way as a nation. Family values have gone out the window under this administration. Bush's administration has been known for its lies and deciet. As a leader of this country Bush hasnt put forth good "family values". Its up to the next president to set the example of what true family values are.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  31. wol

    jack , the family values in our country is dollar, dollar and dollar.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  32. Ed

    They say to stray from God results in wickedness. Maybe in the same way to stray from values and principals results in bad decisions. Ron Paul is principaled and has strong values. He has my vote.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm |
  33. Nick Carona

    Jack, it shows how family is less important in today's society. Our children are in school for 8 hours a day, and both parents are working longer and longer hours. Jack, if you must know, Rudy, McCain, and Thompson represent a growing trend in America that is sad to see.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  34. David in Dallas

    Exactly what it should say, that the government has no business in the morals business.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:13 pm |
  35. Mark P.

    At the end of the day, family should be important to the individual, not the federal government. It all goes back to standing up for personal liberty not the lip service the candidates feed us about how great their home life is.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:14 pm |
  36. Taylor

    The answer is simple really. When people vote on family values instead of the ideas our leader are supposed to endor, the country comes out with a president like Bush. The people are waking up to the fact that the best family man (or man perceived as that) doesn't always make the best President. A trend I would very much like to see continued.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  37. Patricia

    God has left the U.S.A.??? No He hasn't!!! He just doesn't like how some of these politicians have taken His name in vain for their own political gain!!! I've said this somewhere before on a blog, but, I've been waiting for years for God to tap me on the shoulder & whisper in my ear that Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson or James Dobson or Tony Perkins had it right & to listen to those men & "obey" them. He hasn't done it yet. Why?? Because they don't have it right & they never did have it right. All of these men are fallible & do not have the corner on God. Yet you "religious rightist" set store by them & listen to these men more than you pay real attention to what Christ said.
    Ya know I feel sorry for ya's, I really do, but, until you figure out that listening to men is more dangerous than listening to the truth of your heart, you will never understand what true "family values" should mean to you & this country.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:17 pm |
  38. Michelle Cubas

    Jack,

    The family values issue is another indication of how out of step many politicians are, particularly the stoic Republicans. How they hijacked family values as only relating to Republicans is insulting the rest of America. It is indicative of "be like me" or else you're excluded. Also, it shows how limited their definition of family is—today's blended families, same-sexed parents and extended families including close friends does not appear to be part of the Republican definition.

    Once again, the RNC has underestimated the core fiber of Americanism—the attachment to values that are inclusive, not exclusive.

    They need to freshen up their world view. At this rate, the all white, gray-haired or bald males will continue to rule the country.

    Merry Christmas, there I've said it, and happy new year, one of prosperity for all Americans, not a select few.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  39. sandra lawrence

    It says that people are fed up with politicians touting family values when they have so few of their own, Jack. We're tired of that self-righteous curtain they're hiding behind. It's like the Wizard of Oz. Pull aside the families values curtain, and you have hypocrites and hot air.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:18 pm |
  40. Zac Hawaii

    I think it lost its punch because all the canidates care about is a vote and not making a better America. Family values have lost its value because canidates, politicians, media, etc. say that ending the war, lowering taxes, religion, hating the president, is the way to be succesful...Have we lost the value of building a strong home and keeping family time first?. Strong familys build a stronger America.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  41. James Perry

    The reason family values no longer count in the republican party is who would believe them, after all the scandals in their party, they would be fools to try that.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:19 pm |
  42. Sharon

    Jack,

    The American public doesn't care any less about family values. We have just had our fill of "holier than thou" politicians that tout family values during election years and then throw the American Family to the wolves,a.k.a special interest groups, when it comes time to vote to help those same families. The families, I might add, that pay the bill for everything. We care about family values. We just can't stand to be lied to anymore. We're just looking for a fare shake. We won't hold our breath on that one.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:20 pm |
  43. Daniel

    Hey family values may not mean too much to some politicians, but they mean one heck of a lot when it comes to American families...we've gottenso caught up with fixing other countries that they've forgotten about looking into American lives and fixing inner city things like drug abuse, fasle arrest and such..no values = shames..just my thought from KY....post it Jack Im done finito...Ive had my say.
    Thanks

    December 18, 2007 at 4:20 pm |
  44. Robert

    Jack,
    The Republicans have been beating this drum for 3 decades, however the American people are starting to see their hypocrisy........mmmm just this year we have Senator Craig playing around in a Minnesota airport bathroom, we have David Vitters fulling around with the DC Madam. Then we have faith base leaders getting caught with their pants down, like the Rev. Ted Haggard. The American people are sick with the Hypocrisy...its about time.

    Robert from Fort Lauderdale

    December 18, 2007 at 4:21 pm |
  45. Jeremy

    I think if people cared more about the Presidents beleif on families then Mitt would have it made...everyone wants to know what his beleifs are, and they are this:

    "We warn that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God. Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets.

    We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society."

    LDS church

    December 18, 2007 at 4:21 pm |
  46. Richard Tinker

    When 'Family Values' become less important in the consideration of Presidential Candidates, it is a direct indication of the lack of character in society, and indicates a downward spiral. While it is fundamentally wrong for society to judge a candidate totally on family values, expecting perfection from imperfect man, it is equally important to not totally discredit family values. Society is only as strong as it's weakest link. If the weakest link becomes the family, we will lose the battle for supremacy in the world system. Rome found out what it meant to discard moral values, America won't fare any better, if we scoff at the laws of God. If society continues to take Bible standards lightly, God will one day get the last laugh. (Pro 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; )

    December 18, 2007 at 4:23 pm |
  47. Matt

    You want "family values"? Read your bible.
    Merry Christmas

    December 18, 2007 at 4:23 pm |
  48. Margaret

    I hope it tells us that family values should be left to the families and their values and not the government. Of course the government must step in when there is abuse, but that should be kept at a minimum. I think the definition of family has changed for many people. That does not mean the families need to be "fixed" or that their values are wrong. It would be wonderful if every family functioned as the Cleavers, but they don't, so we have to live with the reality of what is and try to change by example not laws.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:23 pm |
  49. Ralph

    Perhaps everyone has finally realized that "family values" are something that should be handled by the family at home. After 7 years of the Bush administration, voters may have finally decided that it would be nice to have someone as President that is competent and is interested in trying to run this country in the best possible manner, not spending all their time as a "moral authority" which has never and will never work anyway. Like it or not, we are a vastly diverse country that has many differing opinions on what family values are.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:24 pm |
  50. Zac Hawaii

    Have we ever wondered as christmas approaches that the number one reason people take their lives and vent out to drugs and other self hurting things is not because there is a war, the president, taxes, gas, no becase of the need of or lack of family...thats what we should be focusing on.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  51. Mike Sutter

    For two decades “family values” has been a stalking horse for every mean spirited and hateful cause imaginable. If the phrase is finally losing its cachet it might mean that there is hope for America yet. Sadly it’s more likely that it just means that the pols will need to find a new dog whistle.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:25 pm |
  52. Monte Brown

    Hillary, Hillary, Hillary!

    December 18, 2007 at 4:26 pm |
  53. Donnald, Butte Montana

    It says a lot about the moral ineptitude of this Administration, this Congress, and other public figures.

    All have been involved in lying to the American public, committing criminal acts which noone wants to hold them accountable for, and only think of themselves in their inexhaustible quest for power.

    If they thought more of this country, the general public, or the role model they set instead of their own personal grandizement this would be the shining beacon of freedom and democracy as our founding founders envisioned - not what personal greed and power has let it evolve into.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:27 pm |
  54. Jo - Illinois

    Family Values USA 2007 – whether it comes from either side of the isle how can the candidates campaign for these values if America is going nowhere with family values... can they justify or do something to what is happening now... Brittney Spears what values for example. I would rather push CNN to continue CNN Heroes to show how Family Values are taught and learn from younger years of childhood... Baby Boomers = Family Values, Gen X = 1/2 Values, Gen Y = Video Game Values...

    Wake up US Families! Family = F ather A nd M other I L ove Y ou

    Thanks Jack

    December 18, 2007 at 4:29 pm |
  55. Kevin from Texas

    It shows that American’s are focused on the real issues facing our nation rather than which candidate’s dog can provide us with a "Dog's Eye View" of White House at Christmas time.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:29 pm |
  56. Kim Jordan

    I don't feel the need for either the GOP or the Dems, or the Greens via Ralph Nader with his new book on raising children. (Interesting topic from a Drone).

    My parents took care of this nicely. They were together more than 50 years, beginning in WWII when my Dad was in the 3rd ID and Mom built warplanes. It wasn't always smooth, but it was endurring. I have 3 siblings, we are close to each other even though we live all over the US, China and Switzerland, Each, in my judgement is close to their children. They are by and large successful children and more importantly well adjusted and loving. I have 4 children ranging in age from 9 to 26. Even though the oldest is in Switzerland with his wife Pingchien. (who is now honorary IRISH!) I speak with them daily. God bless the internet. Everytime I hear somebody tell me I must, must define and treat my family thus and so. My teeth start grinding.

    It is a real simple idea. Things don't matter, people do, and each family member should be given, and deserves respect, and unconditional love. Get you head around that and the rest is easy. Semper Fi.

    Kim Jordan

    December 18, 2007 at 4:30 pm |
  57. LT Bjorgaard, Olathe KS

    I will always find it interesting how when candidates "Family Values" are spoken of so rarely mentioned is that Ron Paul has been married for 50 years to the same woman, has 5 kids and 18 grandkids. Is this not the perfect example of family values?

    December 18, 2007 at 4:31 pm |
  58. Artus Register

    While many candidates campaign on "values," almost none of them have any. Politicians are, after all, smiling parasites in suits. Endless wars fought for vague objectives, stealing more and more money by coercive force, trampling the Bill of Rights and transforming the Republic into an empire evince the sort of "family values" most Americans don't want to be associated with. So forgive the voters if they are no longer impressed with this particular lie.

    "Family values" is just a made-up phrase used to gain political traction. People are fed up with the hypocrisy of the status quo. But don't fear, "tough on terror" is the new lie du jour.

    Artus Register,
    Tampa Bay, FL

    December 18, 2007 at 4:32 pm |
  59. Mike, PA

    Family values are way down on the list because families do not exist in America anymore. Marriage has become the ladder used to trade up houses and trade in old models for younger newer ones. The only winners in today’s family life are the monetary pedophiles, the judges and lawyers of the family court system, that use children for money instead of sex.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  60. Mark Walter

    It says the U.S. has wised up to these guys who profess, as if they are better than we are, that they are the moral arbiters of our society. The problem is that they cannot walk the walk. Too many scandals.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  61. Wyoming Republican

    I thought Bush was a family values canidate? If he is I don't want any part of it.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  62. dede

    Losing family values? No jack, American has completely lost their moral values altogether. Its no wonder other moral and religious nations like some islamic states and extremist hate our guts and will go to any lengths to blow us up. Really Jack, a nation with no religious or moral value is a lost nation.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:35 pm |
  63. Cat, Costa Mesa, CA

    It says this country is id becoming what our opposers have dreamed of, a lost society. Where do young children learn the values that will help them be contibuting members of society? The home. Where do children learn to share, love, be patient and kind? The home. Success is fostered in the home and then taken outward...not the other way around! People will have you believe that familis don't matter when it comes to politics. All I know is I would be saddened to see another affair in the oval office, another family broken in front of the world, another dollar spent on the indescretions of an untrustworthy leader, or an inch of infidelity spread throughout our government. America is better than this!
    "No success in the world can compensate for failure in the home."

    December 18, 2007 at 4:36 pm |
  64. john

    Family values haven’t lost there punch, they are just not the ones paraded around by candidates, mega church cults or super hero ministers in rehab.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:39 pm |
  65. BILLY CROWSON

    JACK, IT TELLS ME THAT REPUBLICANS THAT USED IT, USED IT FOR POLITICAL PURPUSES ONLY. IF THEY WERE SERIOUS ABOUT FAMILY VALUES IN THE PAST WHY ARE THE MAJORITY OF THEM NOW CASTING THEM ASIDE BY SUPPORTING A CANDIDATE WITH NO FAMILY VALUES AT ALL? THIS TALK ABOUT FAMILY VALUES AND WHO IS THE MOST RELIGIOUS IS JUST A BUNCH OF (WIDE STANCE) POLITICS. aka LARRY CRAIG, TED HAGGARD, JIMMY SWAGERT, NEWT GINGRICH AND A HOST OF OTHERS PUSHING THE RADICAL RIGHT WING AGENDA.

    BILL
    SULPHUR SPRINGS, TX.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:41 pm |
  66. Patricia

    Lord Save Me From Bible Thumpers!!! Ya's still don't get it!!! You Keep Putting Your Faith In Men, Like George Bush, Mitt Romney, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Tony Perkins, & Jerry Falwell, & The Rest Of The Republican Presidential Slate!!! These men reallllllly don't promote "Family Values" & never did. They promote FEAR!! They promote their monetary interests through their personal companies,("Dead-eye" Dick Cheney & Halliburton is a perfect example); & they promote hate of everything that is not in lock-step with their own idea of who God should be to everyone. Now, for the Love of Goodness, Stop Yourselves, Before You Wreck This Country & The World!!!

    December 18, 2007 at 4:46 pm |
  67. Rich, McKinney Texas

    Just as anything else family values come at a price. The price of living in America has gotten too high. Both in the cost in human lives and the expense to secure freedom in other countries that we impose our family values on. Especially when they do not want them. America does not have a patent on family values.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:49 pm |
  68. Richard G.

    Jack,
    "Family Values" have been used by the right a wedge issue to convince their voters that they are better than others. That is how they win elections. They prey on the the fears and inadequacies people feel. They preach of high morals and have
    none. They are the people throwing stones in the glass house.

    December 18, 2007 at 4:50 pm |
  69. Cody Weber

    there are 3 cantidates in the GOP that have reasonable family values and thats romney huckabee and paul. Romney and Huckabee's voting records both make them seem like bad conservatives leaving Paul as the only reasonable cantidate on this front..

    Married to the same woman for 50+ years... restore this kind of stability to the country

    December 18, 2007 at 4:54 pm |
  70. bnthdntht

    It simply means that americans realized that a bunch of politicians,lawyers,ceos, right-wing religious despots and newsmen sold them an idea that no one could measure up to especially the ones that where selling the idea. What member of the above mention would you buy a used car from.

    L.M.,Arizona

    December 18, 2007 at 4:56 pm |
  71. cjohnson

    We have so many other things – energy security, environmental degradation/resource depletion (e.g. water in Georgia), out-of-control consumerism (with massive credit card debt, people borrowing money they can't pay back), people not able to get health insurance, a war, a transportation system doomed to failure with its complete dependence on cheap oil, just to name a few...

    Those things will bite us in the butt very hard if not addressed. "Family Values" violations will likely never have any effect on anyone except maybe in their minds.

    If my neighbor is gay and he wants to get married, that's his business. We are wasting our time and resources on trying to prevent such things. There are all kinds of people in the world, and trying to control all of their personal lives is a worthless distraction from the things that we really need to take care of.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:01 pm |
  72. Stan Woldtvedt

    Jack, family values will fall in place if and when our leaders and public figures show us that they actually USE those stated values. Leading by example, what a unique idea! Cheating, kickbacks, mudslinging, do not meet my family values. I don't know about others, false compassion, feigned concern, et al, turn my stomach.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:02 pm |
  73. Katie

    "Family values" have been cynically exploited by the GOP for so long that the words wore out–not to mention that some of the loudest mouths bleating about "family values" have been caught in some of the most titillating, giggle-worthy scandals of the past year. It's hard to make people believe you're big on family values when you don't support SCHIP, when you restrict "family values" to those who have the traditional male-head intact nuclear family–and sit in a wide stance in public restrooms.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:04 pm |
  74. Mary Jane

    The family is the basic unit of society. There are many types of family, but everyone needs to feel that sense of belonging to a family! If we don't remember the basis by which the founding fathers set forth the constitution of the United States, we will not be able to survive. We need to seriously look at the values of those running for the President of the United States of America. We are a great nation, we need to elect someone with moral and family values.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:08 pm |
  75. ted daugherty

    i hardly rver watch cnn and now after listening to all your listeners blasting family values and republicans i know why i wonder how much the democratic party paye you to put all their talking points on but no doubt this email will never see the light of day

    December 18, 2007 at 5:10 pm |
  76. Nancy Tilenius

    Yes, it is going too far about the little girl with a knife for her food. Shouldn't educated people have common sense–course you can't find common sense in a book or higher education. These people are in charge of our children everyday–now that is scary. Just an old Grandma that raised hers by mostly common sense, how dreadful!

    December 18, 2007 at 5:14 pm |
  77. Stan

    Jack, this country is beating itself to death with fear-mongering,loss of morals, and knee-jerk reactions. No one feels safe because of the diametrically opposed facts that kooks and nutcases can't be legislated out. We are a country with paranoid schizophrenia, from our fearless leader on down. Are we going to return to sanity? God only knows.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:15 pm |
  78. Charlie

    How about Ron Paul?

    December 18, 2007 at 5:21 pm |
  79. Patricia

    No one blasted "Family Values", I have blasted the mis-use by the Republicans of "Family Values" in order to get elected to office!!! Considering the horrible spelling & miserable grammer of the above contributor, it would seem that this person hasn't used education to his benefit. I don't work for the Democratic Party either. But, I don't walk around with Republican Blinders On Either, Wake-up!!!

    December 18, 2007 at 5:26 pm |
  80. Steve S.

    When Family Values have lost its punch and are not an issue, then it means the U.S. is getting a little closer to hell. It hurts me to see God taken out of schools and government and we are slowly getting away from being "One Nation under God." Family values is not a money issue. I'm looking for a leader who not only knows what the 10 commandments are, but lives them. When one of our recent presidents said "I did not have sexual relations with that women", I lost all respect for him (I didn't vote for him anyway). I would like to see a God fearing man in the White House, I don't care what his religion is. Family values should not be the top issue, but it should be in there.

    December 18, 2007 at 5:46 pm |
  81. sheldon gross

    Hi Jack, Family values are indeed of vital importance when choosing a spouse and deciding whether or not to raise a family of any size. However, deciding whether or not to support conditions or laws or regulations involving war , greenhouse gasses, treatment of prisoners or any of the myriad problems facing a president family values ought to be relegated to its proper position at the bottom of the list.

    December 18, 2007 at 6:02 pm |
  82. Jennifer Collins

    It says that the republicans don't have a candidate that matches the criteria so it is no longer important. They are touting Guiliani so it's a bit difficult to tout family values with this man because with him they are in the toilet.

    December 18, 2007 at 6:05 pm |
  83. Maureen

    I hope that it means that US families have come to learn we cannot look to politicians for our "family values". Presidents that are having "non sex " with interns and lying under oath about it, other politicians hanging out in men's room picking up hustlers, others hiding money in their freezers; many are so dysfunctional I wouldn’t' let them near my family never mind learn family values from.

    December 18, 2007 at 6:11 pm |
  84. Dawson Lodge

    The decline of the "family values" discussion demonstrates an increasing sophistication on the part of Americans. Everybody has "family values"
    from Christians to communists. The whole issue is bogus, and was always
    an attempt to pander to the simple minded. Well it looks like the simple minded are no longer a majority. People are no longer going to be fooled by simplistic answers to complex problems. Very refreshing to see your honest amazement at the Ron Paul groundswell. It's a good thing to see someone covering the BIGGEST STORY of 2008. Watch for the landslide Ron Paul victory........

    December 18, 2007 at 6:35 pm |
  85. Billy

    Family Values have not been an agenda in many years. What about Huckabees son mutilating a dog while he was supposed to be a counselor at a Boy Scout camp where he and another hung,stoned and finally slashed the poor animal's throat. I have read where FBI analysts say that most serial killers start out by torturing animals. Maybe Huckabee should control his own house befor he tries to control the world. Oh i forgot to mention the same son was also arrested for carrying a gun in an airport maybe terrorist ties.... doubt it but he likes to slander everyone besides didn't we learn our lesson electing a president from Arkansas

    December 18, 2007 at 6:37 pm |
  86. chet cantrell

    Jack it says it,s time to petition Congress to add one more pork barrel item to their budget to provide mercy kits for middle class taxpayers of America. The kit would be relatively cheap and it should include one large bottle of vasoline and instructions in English as to how we should assume the "position" (bending over and grabbing our ankles) at least that would make what they are doing to us somewhat more bearable!

    December 18, 2007 at 7:09 pm |
  87. CGB

    While it may be true that candidates don't emphasize their families and exhibit them for the public as they used to, I have respect for a candidate who, although divorced or caught in a compromising situation, admits to having made mistakes and takes steps to rectify them. That wouldn't apply to, say, Rudy Giuliani, who flaunted his extra-marital affair. It would apply to John McCain. And, you have to give Hillary credit; she really did "stand by her man".

    December 18, 2007 at 7:12 pm |
  88. Independent in CA

    If the GOP wants Guiliani as President of course they would avoid the "family values" topic. Guiliani loses hands down on that topic. Actually, he loses hands down with me, an independent, on every topic. I don't trust him, nor will I ever trust him, therefore I would never vote for him. Romney is it for the GOP or else they will lose bigtime.

    December 18, 2007 at 7:58 pm |
  89. John Deitch

    Family Values?

    Wasn’t that George Bush Senior’s slogan when running against Clinton back in the day? Unfortunately, Family Values went to the way side in (1968) the sixties.

    Political issues in this day and age are solved with media spin and not ideal capabilities to stimulate the populous in action and support of a leading solution(s). Omnipotence of Capitalism it seems has become the standard for the individual and his/her understanding of freedom. The lack of trust that anyone in Washington will do anything for the greater good has been lost. So, when a politician will say what the majority of the populous would like to hear or think they hear, we disengage the best candidate to arise.

    We, always need to remember editing of the media is not based on what is right for you and I and our Nation, but on the “Omnipotence of Capitalism” Welcome to the U.S.A.

    Multi-generational U.S.A. Citizen,

    jD IV

    December 18, 2007 at 8:19 pm |
  90. Paul Kang

    It may sound cliche but there is an underlying truth in that if you can't manage your own home how can we expect someone to manage a country. In a marriage you take an oath much like when you get sworn into office. If you fail to uphold your vows for your marriage how lightly will you take your vows for office? Family values are still very important to many Americans, including myself. When I see Rudy Giuliani appearing in the news about his affairs I can only imagine him lying in bed with foreign interests, failing to provide solutions to domestic problems. Unfortunately currently the bigger issues are related to our economy/war/security and morality takes a back seat.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:23 pm |
  91. Brian Green

    What "family values"? We are under a government that seeks to destroy families. Me and my family would be much better off without the criminal acts of the government.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:26 pm |
  92. Patricia

    Except that the former President who was from Arkansas raised a very responsible daughter.
    But, I do have to say, I think that those who are "Religious Rightist" do end up with some very "bent" kids. 1 "Religious Rightist" has a son who is Gay, then there's Mike Huckabee's kid, who indeed seems to be "wrapped too tight" & on the verge of split from reality. Then there's Ted Haggart & the fake life he's been leading. I wonder, what happened to "Dead-eye" Dick Cheney's daughter that she wants no part of a man? What do you "Religious Rightists" do to your kids that they end up fleeing from you in droves??
    I know what happened to me, by day my mother & father were hellacious Bible Thumpers, & would beat us kids at the drop of hat when we did anything wrong. But, by night my parents were alcoholics who would beat each other & us kids for no reason. Hell, I got beaten by my mother 1 Saturday afternoon when she woke-up from sleeping off a drunk & I told her the right time of day. That evening when my father came home from work, & she thought I was asleep, she laughed about when she told my father what she did. No, you "Religious Rightists" do not have the corner on "Family Values" & you need to stop selling yourselves as the "Right People" to run this country.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:26 pm |
  93. Darrel @Lone Rock Iowa

    Family Values mean alot to me. A person with strong family Values and good Moral values will alway get my vote over someone Like Rudy Who left many a wife dangling from mid air while supporting a mistress with the Goverment giveing her Police protection. You see if Rudy had any values about Family this crap would not have happened.
    Then there is Bill Clinton and the Intern. Some family values would have helped him out in the heat of the moment situation that he lied to the American People on TV with his finger just a wagging.
    You see Family Values are a good thing. If they don't cheat on there wife maybe they won't cheat on me as a tax paying American either.
    Both line we should concentrate on the Politicians Platform and how he will handle the issues before them. Will they answer questions to the point with out meandering all over the place. Can You Trust them From there own Track Record.
    Merry Christmas

    December 18, 2007 at 8:38 pm |
  94. Paul Moore

    For those of you who think that a very religious person should run the country. Look at Iran and any of ther other religious states. They force all people to behave by their religious rules.

    Jesus did not force his views on anyone. He preached what he thought was the right thing to do and let people make up their own mind. That is true "freedom of religion". He did not try to set up a religious state, but a "kingdom" to be earned during your life and acquired after death.

    This is not what people on the right wing of religion believe. They believe in do it my way or I will force you even if you don't believe in it.

    December 18, 2007 at 8:54 pm |
  95. lorene

    hi jack i just finished reading it,s getting ugly out there,and boy are you telling the truth.i wish everybody was as honest as you and lou dobbs.what a different world this would be.you tell it like it is and i respect that.Lou,well he sometimes gets in a little heavy discusion,but he gets the last word.Keep up the good work.

    December 18, 2007 at 9:24 pm |
  96. KB

    Jack

    Family Values is becoming irrelevant as an issue because fewer Americans have any values. We are fast food junkies. .. compulsive shoppers...and mindless drones who sit in front of the TV/computer to be "entertained" by the likes of Britney and Paris. We eat too much, drink too much, and use drugs we shouldn't.

    Sacrifice, hard work, honesty, and integrity are the opposite of these lifestyle choices. If we really embraced traditional values as a nation, I seriously doubt that people like K-Fed would be millionaire "celebrities". Thus, I think we shouldn't be surprised that our elected officials are "somewhat lacking". We get what we ask for and what we deserve.

    December 19, 2007 at 12:23 am |
  97. j henderson kingsville texas

    the repubs dont care about family ,.they care about money.,,.n most the rich are rich due to lack of family values.,.,they dont care that they over price things .,they dont care if ur to poor to afford medical ,.all they care about is profit.,.,repub care abort profit ,.dems care about the people,.,.txtj

    December 19, 2007 at 12:55 am |
  98. Len Albuq New Mexico

    Our government is like Stallin preaching Democracy. The Grim Reaper selling Life Insurance Policies. Satan preaching behind the pulpit. Hitler promoting the ACLU. The fox in charge of the hen house. It aint no freakin Government! It's a mockery of our Country and Constitution!

    December 19, 2007 at 2:50 am |
  99. steve

    "family values" have always been a luxury issue. we have so many real problems e.g. the economy, the war(s), erosion of civil liberties, heath care, that we don't have time to be judgmental and hypocritical about what someone else is doing in THEIR bedroom.

    December 19, 2007 at 3:30 am |
  100. Stevie SLC Utah

    It means the American voter is taking a second look at the Republican's definition of family values. Put them on a scale and they do not carry any weight at all

    December 19, 2007 at 3:40 am |
  101. Phil

    No government program can substitute what a stable home environment can do. People will criticize those who espouse family values as being less than perfect. This may be true, but it does not diminish from the message.

    I believe people who vote on family values do so because they don't want the government to get in the way and undermine what they teach their children. Also, when it comes to things like protecting the rights of the unborn and defending traditional marriage, these things are often at the mercy of the courts or lawmakers. Instead, giving money and time to help the poor is something you can do regardless of what the courts say.

    December 19, 2007 at 6:32 am |
  102. mark

    I think it's even more telling that we have a family values President and a controversy over destroyed tapes depicting water boarding a human being. The "family values" issue was always just a ploy to rally mainstream American voters to a particular candidate or party. It means nothing now. How does one explain they are a champion for morality whilst authorizing something as immoral as torture? It doesn't matter how many lives it supposedly saved. Evil begets evil. If the man running things was a God fearing as he claims, he wouldn't have to resort to evil means to collect information.

    December 19, 2007 at 8:12 am |
  103. Richard Haynes

    Jack you and Robin make CNN,You being a good get the facts out and who cares what Robin says.All she has to do is look and act natural,SHE'SBEAUTIFUL.If I had your money & my looks(& 50 years younger) ????

    December 19, 2007 at 8:45 am |
  104. David

    I think the issue of "Family values" not being as important as it used to be says two things.

    One – we as Americans have other, more important things to worry about, such as the economy, war, healthcare, etc.

    Two – that perhaps people got tired of having other shove "Family values" down our throats as if we had not a clue as to what it meant. I personally resented it because of the hateful nature of such a subjective term from a group of people who write off particular groups of people (Such as gays, pro-choice people, democrats) with as much compassion of a chainsaw.

    Plus, the "Family Values" issue was designed to cater to the Evangelical Christians. Problem is, not everyone is a Christian and even less are Evangelicals.

    Perhaps the public in general is saying "Leave the values issue to us – you run the government!!"

    December 19, 2007 at 9:16 am |
  105. Anna

    Family values??? Well, if they can't keep a family together and realize the value of family, how can they run a country? In this time and age, family values are found far found and few between. Look at our countries divorce rate, the number of children being raised by single parent households. It's just not lack of family value alone, it is lack of morals, principles and integrety.
    One good look at our society today, will tell you how important family values really are. The lack of shows very well.

    December 19, 2007 at 9:26 am |
  106. Scott Swingle

    Where in the constitution does it state that our government should be dictating what our moral values should be? This should be left up to the families with no government interference.
    It is sad that the economy slipping in to a recession and a winless was is what it takes to get this off of the agenda.

    December 19, 2007 at 10:33 am |
  107. Craig Morrison

    While family values are important it is the responsibility of the families themselves to encourage and strengthen family values, not the politicians.

    Instead, more importantly we need to worry about having good paying jobs for everyone no matter how old you are. We need to have good affordable healthcare for everyone.

    How can we say that we are a country of family values if we as a nation cannot afford to support our famiies or have access to good healthcare.

    The politicians, especially the current administration need to stop shipping our jobs out of the country. This is absolutely barbaric and criminal!

    December 19, 2007 at 10:43 am |
  108. Eli in Houston

    The GOP has been running on family values for years and for a while, it worked like a charm... The GOP could express their indignation at the "decline" in moral values with platitudes of "just say no" while they did absolutely nothing about declining wages, inflation, predatory lending practices, healthcare for kids, the needs of our veterans and their families, the poor, lowering prescription drug prices, etc. All they've done is make themselves and their friends filthy rich while getting us to squabble over gay marriage...

    Then along came Rep. Foley chasing underaged pages, Senator Craig playing "footsy" with an undercover cop in a Minnesota bathroom, David Vitters linked to the DC Madam and Rev. Ted Haggard doing crystal meth and who knows what else with his secret gay lover... And that's not even counting Hookergate or all the countless ethical violations of GOP politicians linked to Jack Abramoff, Tom Delay & Co...

    The charade is over... Like they say, if you live by the sword, you die by the sword... Judge not, lest ye be judged, people in glass houses and so on and so on...

    December 19, 2007 at 11:02 am |
  109. MEA - MD

    Family values are different to everyone, but what concerns me most, after all the publicity about Michael Vick is Huckabee's stand on animal cruelty and animal rights. This is particularly troubling as reported below:
    One of Huckabee's sons was involved in the hanging of a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp in 1998. The boys hanged the stray dog, slit his throat, and stoned him to death—but the teens were never charged with any crime. Huckabee and his staff took a “boys will be boys” attitude toward malicious animal abuse. Arkansas is now one of only seven states that consider deliberate, malicious acts of cruelty to animals a misdemeanor offense. Setting fire to a painting of a dog is a more serious crime in Arkansas than burning the dog himself.
    The incident led to the dismissal of David Huckabee, then 17, from his job as a counselor at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, Ark. It also prompted the local prosecuting attorney— bombarded with complaints generated by a national animal-rights group—to write a letter to the Arkansas state police seeking help investigating whether David and another teenager had violated state animal-cruelty laws. The state police never granted the request, and no charges were ever filed. But John Bailey, then the director of Arkansas's state police, tells NEWSWEEK that Governor Huckabee's chief of staff and personal lawyer both leaned on him to write a letter officially denying the local prosecutor's request. Bailey, a career officer who had been appointed chief by Huckabee's Democratic predecessor, said he viewed the lawyer's intervention as improper and terminated the
    During a speech to the NRA in September, Huckabee sounded almost giddy when he talked about shooting a bullet that was guided by angels to pierce an antelope, and he exclaimed, “I’m pretty sure there will be duck hunting in heaven, and I can’t wait.” The Daily Show’s Jon Stewart had fun with this, and asked, “Governor, are you saying that our heaven is duck hell? Is there any place a duck can go to not get shot?”

    December 19, 2007 at 11:03 am |
  110. steve

    it was only a "code word" or talking point, it was used to exclude and was largely based on sexual issues anyway, it was never a real value to most of the prople who used the term, the folks who professed those values have clearly shown themselves not to actually have those values so the term has become a bit embarrassing i would imagine, the only guy still using the term (romney) has shown in the past that he will say anything that suits his current need so it is just becoming painfully shallow and transparently hypocritical and now even the 20% in constant denial can't bear the term

    December 19, 2007 at 11:09 am |
  111. Leo, Dallas

    Jack:

    I think the reason "Family Values" is not an important part of this election is because the Republicans finally figuered out that it will not work anymore, you see it was never really about "Family Values" it was about getting elected. Now they will use a diffrent tactic like, scaring us half to death by creating fear and making up enemies that will "start WW3" if we don't stop them. I really hope that the American people have finally open their eyes, because the enemy is not siting in some foreign country waiting to take us out, the real enemy is within.

    December 19, 2007 at 11:44 am |
  112. Bonnie Kindred

    Perhaps the Republicans should, as the bumper sticker says "Focus on Your Own Damn Family". Rudy's children don't speak to him, Romney's sons are serving the country by driving a campaign RV around America (what about the noble war in Iraq? They are all young and healthy aren't they?), Huckabee's first act as Govenor was to refuse a 14 year old girl raped by her step father an abortion. (what would Jesus have done?) Saint John McCain was the head of the "Keating 5" (old news I know) who fired federal bank regulators and protected Charles Keating, a major political contributor, as Charlie sold fake certificates of deposits to the elderly telling them they were FDIC insured when they were not and thousands of grannies lost their lives savings? Maybe the Terry Shiavo fiasco hit too close to home? I can't say in public what I would have done if they had come to my Mother's hospice room.............So much for the "family"............etc. etc. etc. .....Maybe 10 old white guys standing on a stage preaching morals to us has worn thin? Maybe we are finally choking on the manure?

    December 19, 2007 at 11:53 am |
  113. Steve in Antioch

    It says Finally...the "family values" was a phony and bogus issue created by the right wing zealots as a code word to hide the true intent which is to: force religious beliefs onto others, hate gays and lesbians, hate Mexicans (oops they mean illegals), don't let gays get married, keep gays out of the military, claim to be pro-life while executing retarded people, claim to be pro-life but then not fund the health care for the kids, be a hypocrite and marry 2 or 3 times after committing adultery, keep silent and not ask that all priests who molest children be arrested and removed from the church, frequent prostitutes of the same an/or opposite sex, claim to be patriotic when in reality it is a front for a coward, listen to false prophets like Falwell, Jones, Roberston et al, it says laws are for others so feel free to lie, cheat, steal, pollute and put yourself first, it says condemn anyone who want us to take the word God off of our money...that way they can worship their true Gods and kill two birds with one stone....

    If I missed anything feel free to fill in the blanks.

    December 19, 2007 at 12:19 pm |
  114. jim

    The term 'family values,' should really be applied to all of us. "The human family" who share this earth. We cannot get overly hung up on internet pornography, or violence on TV as it is something that must in the end be policed. We certainly shouldn't be up in arms over abortion and 'whose God is the right God' as religion and fanaticism is extreme and is the opposite of 'Human family values.' And we certainly should not get all wound up over a group of people hell bent on ruining our way of life, called 'terrorists', as they can only hurl bombs and bullets at us, and we can defend ourselves from them by hurling more bullets and bigger bombs back at them. The biggest threat to ' Human family' values is us, ourselves. and what we are doing to ourselves as a race. Unless we can find a way to change our ways we won't have to worry about family values, we will only have to worry about survival!

    December 19, 2007 at 1:18 pm |
  115. Jim Jensen

    I don't think that family values are a political thing at all. Having said that, I will also say that I don't see, generally, where family values are all that important to families anymore at all either – at least not their kids. Younger people today, and possibly even their parents, have no sense of responsibility or respect for others anymore. There is no more pride in one’s honesty and being an honorable person. That used to be first and foremost for everyone in this country. We used to be able to do business on one's word and a handshake. Now we spend a good deal of time in court arguing over what we used to just know was right. The emphasis now is all a self-centered kind of me, me, me thing. Perhaps that is due, in large part, to all the emphasis on materialism in our country. Or perhaps it just because people have quit caring about anyone other than themselves. There is a very neurotic dysfunctional underlying in our society now and we really don't seem to be able to live our lives the way we used to. All of these kids who go to schools and malls and kill people are kids who our society has let fall through the cracks because nobody cared. All these gang things and violence on the streets are happening because we don't care about each other anymore. Perhaps if we directed our emphasis on peace, love and caring about our neighbor – about being honest and pride in our integrity and our word – maybe the social dysfunctionalism would go away. And a good place to start doing that again is in the home.

    December 19, 2007 at 1:22 pm |
  116. Ray in Massachusetts

    Family values may have been a red herring for the Republicans, but just consider this:
    If the most important vow one can make in life – the marriage vow – means so little to the likes of Giuliani, etc., then I would think the oath of office would mean far less. Over the past seven years, we've seen how much the oath to defend the Constitution means to Bush and Cheney.

    December 19, 2007 at 1:23 pm |
  117. Mike M. Santa Barbara

    Well, I believe the answear is simple. Since there are so many middle-lower income families that are facing financial difficulties it is not politically beneficial to address those issues, particularly, when a certain party is responsible. In politics, you can easily jump on other issues that function as alternative emotional topics, such as death penalty or abortion. Lets praise our political system!

    December 19, 2007 at 5:08 pm |
  118. Ralph Z

    Jack,
    I'll tell you what it says. It says voters are tired of the hypocrisies up on the hill and the white house. Republicans seem to stand for fighting foreign war, bigger government, and taking our liberties in the guise of security. All the clones running for the presidency are for these things to different degrees in the extreme. All of them except for one.

    December 19, 2007 at 5:42 pm |
  119. Barry Karlin

    The term family values was a smoke screen term to obtain votes for candidates who are quick to seize on the the fact that the "religious right" has money and votes to any candidate who verbalizes principles as expressed out of context in the Bible and which are used to gain votes, and do nothing to address those society issues that are growing out of control such as prejudice against gays wanting to serve in the military or marry ; inadequate costs of health care coverage including mental health parity; disabilty coverage for all citizens, affordable elder care for all Americans. To not say these issues are also family values is to say we as a society do not value these groups of individuals.
    The majority of all presidential candidates do not clearly address the major shifts in society that we are seeing where the very definition of a family is changing.
    The words liberal and family values no longer address the reality of our societal shift. We all seem to have new definitions of how to apply these words based on our unique religious or political orientation. When will we all just learn to get along and value all as Americans without sterotyping and judging who we all think one should be before we offer love acceptance, and support. Where is the creativity in Government to solve problems that society seems unable or unwilling to address? Fighting with one party against another is old politccs and needs to stop. Lets think Progressive and as one people.

    December 19, 2007 at 6:04 pm |
  120. Thomas

    Family values means that when two human beings create a baby they will be responsible for it's upbringing, education, nutrition, fitness, philosophy and all costs associated with this child in it's ability to find a place in any society until at least 18 years of age. There are no accidents when it comes to creating children, it has more to do with lazy, ignorant, selfish, neglective, addictive behavior parents that eventually repeat the same poor choice over and over.
    Family values has nothing to do with religion either. Today and in the past there are and were wonderful, spirited, loving parents and children, 10's of thousands of years before humans "created" God and the intolerant lessons of repressive religions.

    December 19, 2007 at 7:58 pm |
  121. Lyne G.

    It amazes me to read all those comments and see that so many do not think of family values as relevant to the well being of a country. It is because of the lack of it that our society is in some of the predicaments it's in (war in Iraq, deficit – as in more and more young people finding themselves living on the streets and out of the governments pockets instead of the cozy athmoshere of the home, and so on). Love makes the world go round it says – same goes for the family.

    December 19, 2007 at 10:01 pm |
  122. Ajay Jain

    Republicans have NOT lost the Family values issue at all. It is the candidates who do not want it front and center. Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Fred Thompson have all been divorced and remarried. That is the main reason the democrats sshold concentrate on Family Vaalues this cycle! Go Hillary go 08!

    December 20, 2007 at 1:37 pm |
  123. T.DeMari

    Jailing someone for using their cell phone while driving is not harsh. Having an accident–possibly killing or injuring others, as a result of talking and driving is far worse. To insure safety , harsh measures are required. When I see a driver anywhere near me using their phone,-I get out of their way as safely and quickly as possible. –T.DeMari, Omaha,Ne

    December 20, 2007 at 3:52 pm |
  124. Michael Butler

    Jack:

    How can it not be news that last Friday, three senior, respected members of the House Judiciary Committee, six-termer Robert Wexler (D-FL), leading hispanic member Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) and floor leader Tammy Baldwin (D-WI), publicly called on the House Judiciary Committee to begin immediate hearings on Dennis Kucinich's bill to impeach VP Dick Cheney?

    This seems like your type of reporting. Why have we not heard anything?

    December 20, 2007 at 4:10 pm |
  125. Peter Rosenholm

    Why argue about family values when mothers and fathers both work and kids are raised by video games, TV and the failing educational stystem. Let's get right to it and debate how to get slave labor from china and mexican slave labor locally. I don't know why they haven't rigged the elections and stop bothering to talk to us at all. Maybe the perpose of these debates is to keep the myth alive that we run our own country.
    Peter R. I honestly don't know what counry I live in anymore?

    December 20, 2007 at 5:29 pm |
  126. KC Johnson

    Which family? More than 50% of all marriages fail and almost as many kids live in one parent households. Where's the value in that?

    December 20, 2007 at 6:34 pm |
  127. Jeanne Heard

    No, nothing Obama says will make any difference to me.I also don't care what G W Bush thinks or says, or Joe Lieberman (wqho never was a real Democrat anyway). Don't send me your book – I;ve already bought it and read it.

    December 20, 2007 at 6:53 pm |
  128. THELMA

    I'm 63 years old and i've never met a republican that had any morals. do you think that is strange? NO .......It takes someone with a brain , heart and feels for thinks of other people .have you seen a republican that has either? NO..NO. I hope everyone wakes up and the THE CLINTONS back in the whitehouse so they can get us out of the mess that the republicans have got us in................................

    December 20, 2007 at 7:13 pm |
  129. Roberta Garfield

    I for one am always extremely suspicious of any group be it political, or a work place in corporate America that touts the old phrase "family values". Most families are nests of jealousy, paranoia, and dysfunctional units. It is a false fairy tale lots of us cling to that our families are so wonderful. Narcissistic toxic parents, uncles that molest, alcoholic sisters, cheating withing the family unit, that is reality. So, take your "family value" system and flush it government is toxic enough. We need a ruler like Peter the Great.

    December 21, 2007 at 9:23 am |